Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
Hi Kirsten I have just tried the procedure and it appears to do what you are wanting. I created a 2 person test database with one AKA for one of them (very simple so that I could see what was happening). I exported a gedcom for 5.5 Gedcom format (not the Legacy format default, although I am not sure if this makes a difference). I opened the file in my text editor (Notepad) so that I could see what came through - the answer was: 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME John /SMITH/ 1 NAME Fred /DAGG/ where these are the name and the AKA. Is this what you want? Cheers, Brett - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Bowman" To: Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy Brett: I don't quite follow everything you've said, but it sounds fairly similar to what my more knowledgeable friend is telling me. As I understand it, Legacy isn't programmed to permit excluding GIVN and SURN tags from the aka fields; excluding those two tags only applies to the primary name. I'm not sure whether that's an intelligible response because I'm speaking in a foreign language but perhaps you'll understand. Thanks for taking a look at my annoying problem. Kirsten -Original Message- Hi Kirsten The tags you are using for names are (as in a Legacy 7 generated gedcom viewed in Notepad) for example: 0 @Ixxx@ INDI 1 NAME Joe /Bloggs/ 2 GIVN Joe 2 SURN Bloggs 1 NAME Joseph /Blogs/ 2 GIVN Joseph 2 SURN Blogs There may be other tags interspersed for sources etc where applicable, but essentially there is simply a repeat of the name, given name and surname tags for each name/AKA. I have looked at other gedcoms and seen only the level 1 NAME tag, so obviously the gedcom structure does not rely on the level 2 name tags to work. If you exclude the level 2 GIVN and 2 SURN tags then you should still get the repeat of level 1 NAME tag for each name/AKA. The AKA does not use a different tag from the "main" name in a gedcom file. Cheers, Brett - Original Message - The usual format for an individual's page at RootsWeb WorldConnect for records uploaded from a Legacy-created GEDCOM begins like this: ID: [] Name: [John Quincy Jones] Surname: [Jones] Given Name: [John Quincy] This is a useless repetition of names and clutters up the page, so I eliminate the Surname and Given Name lines by deleting the appropriate GEDCOM tags before creating the file. The trouble starts again when an individual has an aka (or 2 or 3). For each aka I still get the same three Name-Surname-Given Name lines. I can't find the GEDCOM tags that cause this in order to delete them. Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it for aka's? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines
Sherry: You're welcome. I should have asked if you're inputting your data manually or importing from another software program. If the latter, there are some helpful hints that Legacy users can provide. That would be doubly important if you have split databases in one program and want to merge them into one file in Legacy. In that case it would be a really good idea to post the details to the list (including the name and version of the old program) and ask for tips. Good luck! Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Sherry Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines Kirsten, That sounds like good advice. I didn't realize I would have to have different lists of Master Sources and Locations. That would be awful to manage. And I am discovering there are so many options and preferences I could get lost in them. I'll stick with one database and when I need to pull out my direct line, I'll ask you! Thanks. Sherry W. - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Bowman" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:27:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines Sherry: Welcome to Legacy! I'd definitely recommend keeping the family together in one file. That way you have just one group of settings and preferences to work with as well as one set of Master Sources and Locations--not to mention having just one GEDCOM to upload and maintain. It just makes life so much easier. I have all my data in one file with about 8,000 names and roughly 700 sources. This includes a limited one-name study and ancestors of my sons from two different marriages. I'd be completely overwhelmed by now if I'd tried to separate them into different databases. There are very easy ways to pull different lines from a single Legacy database, but merging separate files can be troublesome. And what do you do when you come across your immigrant ancestor's roots in Europe? You'd have to enter all of the data three times. Stick with one file. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
Brett: I don't quite follow everything you've said, but it sounds fairly similar to what my more knowledgeable friend is telling me. As I understand it, Legacy isn't programmed to permit excluding GIVN and SURN tags from the aka fields; excluding those two tags only applies to the primary name. I'm not sure whether that's an intelligible response because I'm speaking in a foreign language but perhaps you'll understand. Thanks for taking a look at my annoying problem. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of BMcL Robinson Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy Hi Kirsten The tags you are using for names are (as in a Legacy 7 generated gedcom viewed in Notepad) for example: 0 @Ixxx@ INDI 1 NAME Joe /Bloggs/ 2 GIVN Joe 2 SURN Bloggs 1 NAME Joseph /Blogs/ 2 GIVN Joseph 2 SURN Blogs There may be other tags interspersed for sources etc where applicable, but essentially there is simply a repeat of the name, given name and surname tags for each name/AKA. I have looked at other gedcoms and seen only the level 1 NAME tag, so obviously the gedcom structure does not rely on the level 2 name tags to work. If you exclude the level 2 GIVN and 2 SURN tags then you should still get the repeat of level 1 NAME tag for each name/AKA. The AKA does not use a different tag from the "main" name in a gedcom file. Cheers, Brett - Original Message - The usual format for an individual's page at RootsWeb WorldConnect for records uploaded from a Legacy-created GEDCOM begins like this: ID: [] Name: [John Quincy Jones] Surname: [Jones] Given Name: [John Quincy] This is a useless repetition of names and clutters up the page, so I eliminate the Surname and Given Name lines by deleting the appropriate GEDCOM tags before creating the file. The trouble starts again when an individual has an aka (or 2 or 3). For each aka I still get the same three Name-Surname-Given Name lines. I can't find the GEDCOM tags that cause this in order to delete them. Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it for aka's? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
Brian: Your instructions are exactly right, and it's the process I follow when creating a GEDCOM. The difference is that I *want* the alternate names but not the extra surname and given name lines associated with them. I couldn't find the correct combination to do that and thought I was missing something but a very clever and helpful person has discovered that the software just isn't programmed to do what I'd like. Thanks for your response, though. It may help others who want to modify their Legacy GEDCOMs. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy Although I've never created such a GEDCOM without AKAs, this should be what you are asking for: On the GEDCOM Export window, click the "Customize" button on the lower right. Then on the next window, put a check mark in the EXCLUDE Alternate Names towards the bottom of that window. TIP: If you do this frequently, you might want to click the SAVE LIST button after excluding items or whatever else you have customized. Then next time simply click on LOAD LIST and you won't have to remember all those things. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net] Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 1:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy The usual format for an individual's page at RootsWeb WorldConnect for records uploaded from a Legacy-created GEDCOM begins like this: ID: [] Name: [John Quincy Jones] Surname: [Jones] Given Name: [John Quincy] This is a useless repetition of names and clutters up the page, so I eliminate the Surname and Given Name lines by deleting the appropriate GEDCOM tags before creating the file. The trouble starts again when an individual has an aka (or 2 or 3). For each aka I still get the same three Name-Surname-Given Name lines. I can't find the GEDCOM tags that cause this in order to delete them. Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it for aka's? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines
Kirsten, That sounds like good advice. I didn't realize I would have to have different lists of Master Sources and Locations. That would be awful to manage. And I am discovering there are so many options and preferences I could get lost in them. I'll stick with one database and when I need to pull out my direct line, I'll ask you! Thanks. Sherry W. - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Bowman" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:27:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines Sherry: Welcome to Legacy! I'd definitely recommend keeping the family together in one file. That way you have just one group of settings and preferences to work with as well as one set of Master Sources and Locations--not to mention having just one GEDCOM to upload and maintain. It just makes life so much easier. I have all my data in one file with about 8,000 names and roughly 700 sources. This includes a limited one-name study and ancestors of my sons from two different marriages. I'd be completely overwhelmed by now if I'd tried to separate them into different databases. There are very easy ways to pull different lines from a single Legacy database, but merging separate files can be troublesome. And what do you do when you come across your immigrant ancestor's roots in Europe? You'd have to enter all of the data three times. Stick with one file. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
Hi Kirsten The tags you are using for names are (as in a Legacy 7 generated gedcom viewed in Notepad) for example: 0 @Ixxx@ INDI 1 NAME Joe /Bloggs/ 2 GIVN Joe 2 SURN Bloggs 1 NAME Joseph /Blogs/ 2 GIVN Joseph 2 SURN Blogs There may be other tags interspersed for sources etc where applicable, but essentially there is simply a repeat of the name, given name and surname tags for each name/AKA. I have looked at other gedcoms and seen only the level 1 NAME tag, so obviously the gedcom structure does not rely on the level 2 name tags to work. If you exclude the level 2 GIVN and 2 SURN tags then you should still get the repeat of level 1 NAME tag for each name/AKA. The AKA does not use a different tag from the "main" name in a gedcom file. Cheers, Brett - Original Message - The usual format for an individual's page at RootsWeb WorldConnect for records uploaded from a Legacy-created GEDCOM begins like this: ID: [] Name: [John Quincy Jones] Surname: [Jones] Given Name: [John Quincy] This is a useless repetition of names and clutters up the page, so I eliminate the Surname and Given Name lines by deleting the appropriate GEDCOM tags before creating the file. The trouble starts again when an individual has an aka (or 2 or 3). For each aka I still get the same three Name-Surname-Given Name lines. I can't find the GEDCOM tags that cause this in order to delete them. Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it for aka's? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines
Sherry: Welcome to Legacy! I'd definitely recommend keeping the family together in one file. That way you have just one group of settings and preferences to work with as well as one set of Master Sources and Locations--not to mention having just one GEDCOM to upload and maintain. It just makes life so much easier. I have all my data in one file with about 8,000 names and roughly 700 sources. This includes a limited one-name study and ancestors of my sons from two different marriages. I'd be completely overwhelmed by now if I'd tried to separate them into different databases. There are very easy ways to pull different lines from a single Legacy database, but merging separate files can be troublesome. And what do you do when you come across your immigrant ancestor's roots in Europe? You'd have to enter all of the data three times. Stick with one file. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Sherry Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 6:38 PM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines I am getting ready to enter family information into Legacy. I am a new user and so I have a question. There are 3 lines from the original immigrant ancestor. Each with a variation of the last name: Nidiffer, Neidiffer, and Nidiver. These three names developed over time as they migrated to different parts of the country. Should I enter all of them as one great big happy family? Or should I create different family trees in Legacy? Thanks. Sherry W. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
Although I've never created such a GEDCOM without AKAs, this should be what you are asking for: On the GEDCOM Export window, click the "Customize" button on the lower right. Then on the next window, put a check mark in the EXCLUDE Alternate Names towards the bottom of that window. TIP: If you do this frequently, you might want to click the SAVE LIST button after excluding items or whatever else you have customized. Then next time simply click on LOAD LIST and you won't have to remember all those things. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net] Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 1:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy The usual format for an individual's page at RootsWeb WorldConnect for records uploaded from a Legacy-created GEDCOM begins like this: ID: [] Name: [John Quincy Jones] Surname: [Jones] Given Name: [John Quincy] This is a useless repetition of names and clutters up the page, so I eliminate the Surname and Given Name lines by deleting the appropriate GEDCOM tags before creating the file. The trouble starts again when an individual has an aka (or 2 or 3). For each aka I still get the same three Name-Surname-Given Name lines. I can't find the GEDCOM tags that cause this in order to delete them. Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it for aka's? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines
Sherry, I have one family with multiple spellings and 21 lines. I have the lines separated because we already have over 3000 people in one line. At some point I might merge them together in a separate family file, but right now I have them separate. It probably depends on how big you think it will get and how you need to search. I need to search for lines A through V as well as print them separately so I have not done them together. Think of the eventual big picture and figure out if it would be easier to merge later or now. It's all up to the number of people you expect it to be and how you will use the info. Ellen Kramer Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families On Oct 4, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Sherry wrote: I am getting ready to enter family information into Legacy. I am a new user and so I have a question. There are 3 lines from the original immigrant ancestor. Each with a variation of the last name: Nidiffer, Neidiffer, and Nidiver. These three names developed over time as they migrated to different parts of the country. Should I enter all of them as one great big happy family? Or should I create different family trees in Legacy? Thanks. Sherry W. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Different Family Lines
I am getting ready to enter family information into Legacy. I am a new user and so I have a question. There are 3 lines from the original immigrant ancestor. Each with a variation of the last name: Nidiffer, Neidiffer, and Nidiver. These three names developed over time as they migrated to different parts of the country. Should I enter all of them as one great big happy family? Or should I create different family trees in Legacy? Thanks. Sherry W. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of the surity level....
Hi Michele I generally do not change the surety level. However I do change the surety up and down for the exceptions - particularly for highlighting low levels of surety, or where there are two usually reliable but conflicting sources for the same event (raise the level for the "correct" one). Cheers, Brett - Original Message - Speaking of the surety level... do y'all use this? I never have. I know in my head which sources are credible and which ones are more dubious. I appears these levels are only for the benefit of the compiler. When you print reports and such these surety levels don't print for others to see. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
It would be so much better if location reports could contain the pictures because then, when many people have the same location, there would not be multiple pictures of the same castle/abbey/whatever. The Location Report, containing the description and pictures and added to the end of your report of choice, would be ideal. Would they really be so hard to include? The links are already there. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 5:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations The trick is to create an Event to put the picture into. Each event will, in general, print one picture per event. Then you can sort the events, which will also put them in chronology. Ex: for each residence, you can put the photo of the building, and sort in date order. The pictures may be too small at times, but that is a different situation. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Alastair Lack To: Legacy User Group Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:31:41 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations I should like to include pictures of locations in my reports. Apropos of the August posts on the topic, the reason I would like to do this is that it is part of the location description, along with lat/long etc. I've gone to a degree of trouble to locate many of these places, and travelled many miles visiting them. Their pics are happily attached in the location master file. I don't think that the previous posts discovered how to include them in ordinary, eg descendant, reports. So I've also run a Location Report, but I cannot see how to include pictures in that either. Am I missing something, or are location pics not actually reportable anywhere at present? Warm regards :-) Alastair Lack Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/04/09 06:20:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children
Ha, you're one step ahead of the game, Dennis. Downloaded the update, ran the sort, and it works like a champ. Thanks. You just saved me a lot of time and headache. Jim On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: > On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:34:35 -0700, Dawn Crowley > wrote: > >>Besides, doing this en masse >>could also unintentionally change the order of children where the order >>is known, but dates are not. > > It all depends on how it is implemented. It could certainly be coded to > only sort families where *all* the children have a date. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek (LTools) > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children
Interesting comment Dennis. I downloaded LTools the other day and have just upgraded to the registered version (still waiting.). I'll take a look at the sort section, and may try to program a SQL sort on children with dates. I may look at the tagging option too, but I might end up spending as much time playing with the program as I would just doing it. I'm real bad about that. (I'm a retired 'nerd' from the old school when hacking meant to modify a program to make it smaller, faster, and better. Far cry from today's bloat-code where you need multi-gigabytes of memory to do anything. Jim On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: > On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:34:35 -0700, Dawn Crowley > wrote: > >>Besides, doing this en masse >>could also unintentionally change the order of children where the order >>is known, but dates are not. > > It all depends on how it is implemented. It could certainly be coded to > only sort families where *all* the children have a date. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek (LTools) > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
The trick is to create an Event to put the picture into. Each event will, in general, print one picture per event. Then you can sort the events, which will also put them in chronology. Ex: for each residence, you can put the photo of the building, and sort in date order. The pictures may be too small at times, but that is a different situation. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Alastair Lack To: Legacy User Group Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:31:41 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations I should like to include pictures of locations in my reports. Apropos of the August posts on the topic, the reason I would like to do this is that it is part of the location description, along with lat/long etc. I've gone to a degree of trouble to locate many of these places, and travelled many miles visiting them. Their pics are happily attached in the location master file. I don't think that the previous posts discovered how to include them in ordinary, eg descendant, reports. So I've also run a Location Report, but I cannot see how to include pictures in that either. Am I missing something, or are location pics not actually reportable anywhere at present? Warm regards :-) Alastair Lack Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children
But now you know why we are all adamant about not putting other peoples work in our trees. Next time maybe take a look before you do it But I know fixing all the orders would still be a PITA Eliz On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jim Walton wrote: > Good point, Dawn. It's just that I've spent the better part of the > last hour cleaning up other people's messes and was hoping for a quick > fix (which may not have been a quick fix.) Guess I just need to take a > break, then come back and do it... > > Thanks for the thought... > > Jim > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Dawn Crowley > wrote: >> I cannot think of a bulk way to do this. Besides, doing this en masse could >> also unintentionally change the order of children where the order is known, >> but dates are not. >> >> Dawn >> >> Jim Walton wrote: >>> >>> Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in >>> date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that >>> need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time. >>> Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or >>> GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind... >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children
On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:34:35 -0700, Dawn Crowley wrote: >Besides, doing this en masse >could also unintentionally change the order of children where the order >is known, but dates are not. It all depends on how it is implemented. It could certainly be coded to only sort families where *all* the children have a date. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
I am sure you will receive many replies but the long and short of it is to create an event for each photo i.e. residence, etc. Then make sure you click on the "include event photos" in the options listing. Also, I personally keep the description of the photo "short and sweet" and elongate the description in the note section of the event. To me it makes a more "balanced" presentation". But that is a subjective opinion...play with it. Virginia. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children
Good point, Dawn. It's just that I've spent the better part of the last hour cleaning up other people's messes and was hoping for a quick fix (which may not have been a quick fix.) Guess I just need to take a break, then come back and do it... Thanks for the thought... Jim On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Dawn Crowley wrote: > I cannot think of a bulk way to do this. Besides, doing this en masse could > also unintentionally change the order of children where the order is known, > but dates are not. > > Dawn > > Jim Walton wrote: >> >> Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in >> date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that >> need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time. >> Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or >> GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind... >> >> Jim >> >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sorting children
This topic was thoroughly discussed recently. You can find all the responses in the archives. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Jim Walton Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 2:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] sorting children Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time. Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind... Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/04/09 06:20:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children
I cannot think of a bulk way to do this. Besides, doing this en masse could also unintentionally change the order of children where the order is known, but dates are not. Dawn Jim Walton wrote: Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time. Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind... Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
I should like to include pictures of locations in my reports. Apropos of the August posts on the topic, the reason I would like to do this is that it is part of the location description, along with lat/long etc. I've gone to a degree of trouble to locate many of these places, and travelled many miles visiting them. Their pics are happily attached in the location master file. I don't think that the previous posts discovered how to include them in ordinary, eg descendant, reports. So I've also run a Location Report, but I cannot see how to include pictures in that either. Am I missing something, or are location pics not actually reportable anywhere at present? Warm regards :-) Alastair Lack Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] sorting children
Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time. Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind... Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
The usual format for an individual's page at RootsWeb WorldConnect for records uploaded from a Legacy-created GEDCOM begins like this: ID: [] Name: [John Quincy Jones] Surname: [Jones] Given Name: [John Quincy] This is a useless repetition of names and clutters up the page, so I eliminate the Surname and Given Name lines by deleting the appropriate GEDCOM tags before creating the file. The trouble starts again when an individual has an aka (or 2 or 3). For each aka I still get the same three Name-Surname-Given Name lines. I can't find the GEDCOM tags that cause this in order to delete them. Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it for aka's? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing surname
Yes. And I have a marriage record one party's surname are spelled differently within the same document. This New England family had moved to the south. Same name, but with pronunciation variations that led to differing spellings. Dawn Laura Johnson wrote: It is NOT pendantic at all.I choose to be historically/genealogically correct and record EXACTLY how each instance of the name appears in that person's life with the first available document from the birth being the first/preferred name. For example - this is my 3rd great grandfather Birth document in 1832 - he is listed as Saverio Ignazio Sansone-Zodia Baptismal document - ON THE SAME DAY IN 1832 - he is listed as Xaverio Sansone alias Zodia (this is listed as AKA) Marriage document in 1858 - he is listed as Saverio Sansone (another AKA) On several of his children's birth documents, he is listed as Ignazio Saverio Sansone (another AKA) Death document in 1922 - he is listed as Saverio Sansone Zodia (another AKA) Each entry is sourced as to where it was found and the date of the document so if shows the pattern of the names he used throughout his life. I am transcribing into my Legacy file a complete town in Sicily. I enter the documents EXACTLY as they are on the document I am entering. If I think there is a mistake in the name, then it is CLEARLY notated in the notes section WHY I think a there is a mistake. I do not arbitrarily change a name to whatever a person went by later in life. Each time a new variation of that person's name exists, it gets an AKA. The baptismal documents before the civil records show the Latin names and are the only exceptions to the rule in my files. The Italian/Sicilian name is recorded as the preferred and the baptismal name is an AKA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Changing surname
Big thanks to all who have contributed the varied, thought-provoking ideas regarding variant surnames. You have all given me (and others on the list) lots to think about. Jane Sarles
Re: [LegacyUG] REF file within zipped Legacy Backup
Thank you Dennis Kowallek & CE Wood, you were absolutely right.When I turned 'Set Relationships' back on through the Tools menu the backup file size returned to its previous level.I was aware that I had turned it off a while back but never connected that action to the file extension 'rel'. Talk about having a red face! Sorry to have added to the number of queries. Thanks again. Ken, in Ottawa - Original Message - From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] REF file within zipped Legacy Backup On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:27:28 -0400, "Ken" wrote: >Does anyone on this list know what the REL file represents within Legacy?I >recently noticed that the size of my total backup file had dropped from where >it was >a couple of weeks ago. When doing a comparison of the files that make up my >current >backup to those in the earlier one I noted that the REL file which was part of >the >zipped backup two weeks ago was no longer included in the current zipped >backup. >Is this serious? I believe the .rel file is where Legacy keeps RELATIONSHIPs The .rel file was introduced with V7. Have you recently cleared your relationships? Maybe this would cause Legacy to delete the file. In either case, I don't think it is anything to worry about. If you set the relationships it will probably reappear. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing surname
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 20:16:09 -0700, "Kirsten Bowman" wrote: >But Laura, how do you account for pastors who couldn't spell or who >"latinized" infants' names? Should a baptismal record for "Fredrikus >Merkel" take precedence over a will signed in the man's own hand as >Frederick Markle--along with all the land and military records listing the >latter? With due respect, that seems to border on the pedantic. As long as >the baptismal version is recorded in the source notes, wouldn't it be >sensible to show the primary name as the one actually used by the >individual? The main point is that each piece of evidence needs to be recorded somewhere. Legacy forces us to choose one of the names as preferred. How do we choose? It might depend on the intended audience. If we were submitting a formal document to a genealogical society we might be given a set of publishing guidelines to follow (earliest documented reference perhaps). If we were publishing on the web with the intent of attracting long lost relatives, we might want to use the name that we think people would google for. I've mentioned this before, but I believe Legacy could do with a redesign of its AKA handling. Allow the AKAs to be classified. Users can add their own classes with custom report sentences for each class. Allow AKAs to be flagged as "private". Allow user to choose which AKA class to use as the main name on screen, in a report, or on a web page. Etc. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing surname
It is NOT pendantic at all.I choose to be historically/genealogically correct and record EXACTLY how each instance of the name appears in that person's life with the first available document from the birth being the first/preferred name. For example - this is my 3rd great grandfather Birth document in 1832 - he is listed as Saverio Ignazio Sansone-Zodia Baptismal document - ON THE SAME DAY IN 1832 - he is listed as Xaverio Sansone alias Zodia (this is listed as AKA) Marriage document in 1858 - he is listed as Saverio Sansone (another AKA) On several of his children's birth documents, he is listed as Ignazio Saverio Sansone (another AKA) Death document in 1922 - he is listed as Saverio Sansone Zodia (another AKA) Each entry is sourced as to where it was found and the date of the document so if shows the pattern of the names he used throughout his life. I am transcribing into my Legacy file a complete town in Sicily. I enter the documents EXACTLY as they are on the document I am entering. If I think there is a mistake in the name, then it is CLEARLY notated in the notes section WHY I think a there is a mistake. I do not arbitrarily change a name to whatever a person went by later in life. Each time a new variation of that person's name exists, it gets an AKA. The baptismal documents before the civil records show the Latin names and are the only exceptions to the rule in my files. The Italian/Sicilian name is recorded as the preferred and the baptismal name is an AKA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing surname
Laura Johnson wrote And I disagreeI believe you should always use the FIRST logical document - birth or baptism - as that is the name they were given. All others are changes to the name they were given. PS - I am a professional genealogist. But how can you be sure it was the name they were "given" - or to put it another way, by whom were they "given" it. Suppose my Great Great Grandmother heard people using the name Horace or saw it written down and thought "I'll call my baby boy Horace!" but because she dropped her aitches in speech she said to the Registrar "'is name is 'orace" and the Registrar recorded "Orace." I don't think, under those circumstances, he was "given" the name Orace. Also there may be occasions when one doesn't have access to the original document (even a Birth Certificate may be a transcription) and if lots of other (later) evidence contradicts, it does suggest (I put it no stronger than that) that the first one is incorrect. Even a Church Register entry of a Baptism relies on what the officiating minister - or his clerk - *thought* he was told! However, we are of course free to disagree and everyone to do things his or her own way and thank goodness for that! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census information
Jim, To clarify, as far as I know "citation" is synonimous with "Source Detail" in this conext, so it only looks at the Source Detail. There is a separate search for Master Sources. I suggest you just give it a try with a few of your sources - you won't break anything ;-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Jim Walton wrote: Would that also include the details attached to that source? I've not tried the search function, so not sure how it will work. I'm real new to Legacy, so still feeling my way along as I go. When I bought the bundle I didn't see the second set of tutorial CDs so maybe I need to invest in them too. Jim On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: You can't beat a good cringe! Don't forget that in V7 one can search the Source Citations for eg. contains Alabama (Seach>Find>Detailed Search). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Kirsten Bowman wrote: Jim: You're welcome. But just be forewarned: Someday you might want to know which families were all living in the same state at the same time . . . or the same county. Then you'll be on the road to splitting. I split at the county level and probably have well over 200 census sources but it bothers me not at all. (A certain Ron is cringing at this .) Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Jim Walton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it that way. You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with 50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 census would have at least 13 sources plus the counties. Even narrowing it down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a Puerto Rico and Guam. But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work as a work-around. Thanks again. Jim On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Jim: That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do. (And just today I wrote that I'm reforming from this!) Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census and leave out the other location details. Then on the Source Detail screen on the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the "ID of Person" field. That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Jim Walton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information I record census information as part of residency then I can do a chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related. I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail. That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information. I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities. Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census information
But my extended families were only in 26 states, and not in all years. I have the census source by year, and the other countries fit my pattern, Britian, Sweden, Norway, Mexico, Canada, Denmark. CenU1790, CenB1841, CenS1890, CenN1865, CenM1845, CenC1851, CenD1834. And CenIa1854 for Iowa. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Jim Walton To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 8:56:05 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it that way. You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with 50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 census would have at least 13 sources plus the counties. Even narrowing it down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a Puerto Rico and Guam. But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work as a work-around. Thanks again. Jim On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: > Jim: > > That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do. (And just today > I wrote that I'm reforming from this!) > > Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census and > leave out the other location details. Then on the Source Detail screen on > the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the "ID of Person" > field. That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation. > > Kirsten > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > Behalf Of Jim Walton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information > > > I record census information as part of residency then I can do a > chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related. > I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement > it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify > the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for > the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail. > That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because > different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for > 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New > Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information. > > I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the > override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get > some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities. > > Jim > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census information
Would that also include the details attached to that source? I've not tried the search function, so not sure how it will work. I'm real new to Legacy, so still feeling my way along as I go. When I bought the bundle I didn't see the second set of tutorial CDs so maybe I need to invest in them too. Jim On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > You can't beat a good cringe! > > Don't forget that in V7 one can search the Source Citations for eg. contains > Alabama (Seach>Find>Detailed Search). > > Ron Ferguson > _ > > New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website > http://www.fergys.co.uk > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > > > > Kirsten Bowman wrote: >>> >>> Jim: >>> >>> You're welcome. But just be forewarned: Someday you might want to >>> know which families were all living in the same state at the same >>> time . . . or the same county. Then you'll be on the road to >>> splitting. I split at the county level and probably have well over >>> 200 census sources but it bothers me not at all. (A certain Ron is >>> cringing at this .) >>> >>> Kirsten >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on >>> Behalf Of Jim Walton >>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:56 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it >>> that way. >>> >>> You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with >>> 50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 >>> census would have at least 13 sources plus the counties. Even >>> narrowing it >>> down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a >>> Puerto Rico and Guam. >>> >>> But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work >>> as >>> a work-around. Thanks again. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman >>> wrote: Jim: That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do. (And just >>> >>> today I wrote that I'm reforming from this!) Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census >>> >>> and leave out the other location details. Then on the Source Detail screen on the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the "ID of >>> >>> Person" field. That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Jim Walton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information I record census information as part of residency then I can do a chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related. I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail. That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information. I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities. Jim >>> > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census information
You can't beat a good cringe! Don't forget that in V7 one can search the Source Citations for eg. contains Alabama (Seach>Find>Detailed Search). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Kirsten Bowman wrote: Jim: You're welcome. But just be forewarned: Someday you might want to know which families were all living in the same state at the same time . . . or the same county. Then you'll be on the road to splitting. I split at the county level and probably have well over 200 census sources but it bothers me not at all. (A certain Ron is cringing at this .) Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Jim Walton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it that way. You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with 50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 census would have at least 13 sources plus the counties. Even narrowing it down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a Puerto Rico and Guam. But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work as a work-around. Thanks again. Jim On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Jim: That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do. (And just today I wrote that I'm reforming from this!) Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census and leave out the other location details. Then on the Source Detail screen on the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the "ID of Person" field. That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Jim Walton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information I record census information as part of residency then I can do a chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related. I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail. That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information. I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities. Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the birth family of an adopted daughter.
June Chan wrote: In the 1911 census I have my Smith family but in addition to the siblings I know about there is also an 11 year old child Emily Turton who is listed as an adopted daughter. In the 1901 census she appears with her widowed father Thomas and her sister Florrie. So far I have been unable to find a connection between Emily or her parents and my Smith family. Could someone please advise how I enter her on Legacy. Prior to finding her on the 1901 census I added her as the adopted daughter of my Smith family, but now I have her father and sister I will obviously need to change this. Thank you - June June, First "marry" the father to an unknown person. You will need to name the spouse "Unkown" but after linking you can delete the spouse (in Family View right click on the spouse and select delete). The marriage will still remain. Now, in Family View set June as the focus and click the parents icon, select "Link to Exisiting Parents" and link Emily to them. Repeat with Emily's sister. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
