[LegacyUG] Legacy unable to "lock file"
I am trying to create a .pdf (descendant narrative) with LOTS of pictures. Without the pictures I was unable to create the file easily (it was roughly 800 pages long). With the pictures, I get a repeated error message that says: Error opening temporary work file. Error 3050. Could not lock file. [I have no idea what is meant by "locking" a file.] Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? I get this message several times, and the number of pages being created advances to c 3500! I have a LOT of pictures but I don't think I have THAT many!! At that point I am told I am out of memory and Legacy crashes. I went to Legacy online help, which suggests I run file maintenace, which I did without a problem. I checked my picture files and all of them are showing up. Legacy Help makes a number of other suggestions, which will be quite time-consuming) but does not deal specifically with Error #3050, as far as I can see. After getting the out-of memory message, I restarted my computer and opened no other programs. But again got the out of memory message. I have 4gb RAM. I have Windows Vista, 64-bit, and keep it updated automatically. I have Legacy Deuxe 7.0.0.109. I'll appreciate all suggestions! -- Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
But it does not print the LOCATION picture unless you attach the picture to the event. And marriage pictures do not print at all unless you add a separate marriage event and attach the picture to that event. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations I disagree. I currently print Individual Reports, and it prints the events with photos I request. Requests 2-3 have been discussed elsewhere. we just recieved notice that 4 has been submitted, and probably crossed paths with this. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:06:06 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations There are several reports in which you cannot choose to have even event pictures print, such as the individual report. There are many reports in which only events can have pictures print, but NOT birth, baptism, death, burial, or marriage. BTW, those are events too, but not classified as such for picture purpose. Many reports do not allow a location report to be included. All reports should have the option to include a location report that includes the location notes and/or pictures. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations Alastair Lack wrote: >> Thanks to each of you for your help. >> I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including >> locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large >> database. >> My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the >> pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't! >> I think CE is right >> Regards >> Alastair > Alastair, Just out of interest, if you are not showing where people lived as an Event, then just how are you showing their residences; or don't you bother? Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/05/09 06:19:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/05/09 06:19:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcom problem
Margaret, You should be able to open .mht files with your internet browser. I have saved some web pages in that format. Try to double-click the file and see if it opens in your browser. You won't be able to import to Legacy but at least you should be able to view it. Maybe the person who sent you the file could try to create a new one for you. I think that somehow they did not export to a GEDCOM but to a web page. Terri - Original Message From: Margaret Bauer To: LegacyUserGroup Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 9:25:12 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Gedcom problem Hi Listers I have a problem. I have been sent a gedcom file but it has an extension "mht" and will not open into my Legacy programme. I have made another file and inserted a "ged" at the end instead but still nothing. I have been assured it is a gedcom file and have been in behind the scenes and it certainly looks as if it is as it starts with the "O head" and all that, but I do not have a clue therefore why I cannot get it to open. Has anyone any suggestions or has come upon this before? Thankyou Margaret Margaret Bauer Qld, Australia bau...@tpg.com.au Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcom problem
MHT is meta hyper text. It should open with any web browser. I save my census as MHT. It is not a gedcom -- Richard Van Wasshnova http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Fix this source! ??
I did a file maintenance check repair, and got two messages saying "Fix this Source!" without any indication as to which source I'm supposed to fix!! Whatever am I supposed to do with this?? Thanks! Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcom problem
What is the size of the file? Can you 'print' the file in any format? Have you tried using Import Wizard to 'confuse' your computer. The worst that could happen is it doesn't work, either. I have never seen the extension mht added with any genealogical file (though I am not an expert in all the programs out there). Since your e-mail is in Australia(?) it could be from a 'home grown' program. Ask the person if the Gedcom is Gedcom 5.5 . We will trie to muddle through this with you. Don't send until someone offers to recieve it. I am swamped for a few weeks, but if on one else steps forward, will leave the option open. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Margaret Bauer To: LegacyUserGroup Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 6:25:12 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Gedcom problem Hi Listers I have a problem. I have been sent a gedcom file but it has an extension "mht" and will not open into my Legacy programme. I have made another file and inserted a "ged" at the end instead but still nothing. I have been assured it is a gedcom file and have been in behind the scenes and it certainly looks as if it is as it starts with the "O head" and all that, but I do not have a clue therefore why I cannot get it to open. Has anyone any suggestions or has come upon this before? Thankyou Margaret Margaret Bauer Qld, Australia bau...@tpg.com.au Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
I disagree. I currently print Individual Reports, and it prints the events with photos I request. Requests 2-3 have been discussed elsewhere. we just recieved notice that 4 has been submitted, and probably crossed paths with this. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:06:06 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations There are several reports in which you cannot choose to have even event pictures print, such as the individual report. There are many reports in which only events can have pictures print, but NOT birth, baptism, death, burial, or marriage. BTW, those are events too, but not classified as such for picture purpose. Many reports do not allow a location report to be included. All reports should have the option to include a location report that includes the location notes and/or pictures. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations Alastair Lack wrote: >> Thanks to each of you for your help. >> I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including >> locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large >> database. >> My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the >> pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't! >> I think CE is right >> Regards >> Alastair > Alastair, Just out of interest, if you are not showing where people lived as an Event, then just how are you showing their residences; or don't you bother? Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/05/09 06:19:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Gedcom problem
Hi Listers I have a problem. I have been sent a gedcom file but it has an extension "mht" and will not open into my Legacy programme. I have made another file and inserted a "ged" at the end instead but still nothing. I have been assured it is a gedcom file and have been in behind the scenes and it certainly looks as if it is as it starts with the "O head" and all that, but I do not have a clue therefore why I cannot get it to open. Has anyone any suggestions or has come upon this before? Thankyou Margaret Margaret Bauer Qld, Australia bau...@tpg.com.au Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Updating Legacy: Ron
Ron: Of course you're right about the difference between upgrades and updates, and the new features introduced with v7 were so huge that probably no amount of beta testing could have caught every possible bug. Furthermore, the ones that did slip through seemed to affect relatively few users. In fact it seems that only *two* of us on the LUG list were seriously paralyzed by the problems--a really minute percentage of users. After that experience, though, I personally would be reluctant to either encourage or discourage others regarding upgrading or updating. You're more experienced with the software and can speak more freely. Legacy is a wonderful program and I wouldn't switch to another even if it promised to vacuum and do the dishes, but as long as my current version works very well in most respects I'll continue to tread cautiously where both updates and upgrades are concerned. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy Kirsten, As I have said before on this list, there is a heck of a difference between an upgrade and an update. Very rarely does an update create problems, whereas with an upgrade of any program bugs are not that unusual - just look at Microsoft! Updates are aimed at getting rid of bugs and improving performance, and in my view should be installed as soon as they are published. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation consistency - for Access & ltools users
Richard Van Wasshnova wrote I just recently finished converting all my US census' from basic to Source Writer using Access at first then ltools. Wanting to verify completeness and consistency I created a Select query combining tblSX (Source Citaions) and tblER (Event Records) and focusing on a single, selectable Master Source (from tblSR). This easily shows my common mistakes. Thanks Richard. I have marked this post as a "keeper" as I know it will be useful when I think I've completed the conversion from Basic to SW! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
CE Wood wrote Location Report: Options should include the option to Include location pictures. AND to have a Location Report as an item in Publishing Centre. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
Dear Alastair, For starters, the following are what Legacy needs to do: Allow a picture for the marriage! Right now, you cannot attach a picture to the marriage. You must create a separate Marriage Event/Fact, called Wedding Photo or whatever and attach the picture to that! Individual Report, Descendant Report, Descendant Narrative Report, and Ancestor Report: Descendant Chart, Pedigree Chart, Family Group Records: Index Options>Location Index - Needs to include the option to Include pictures. Ancestor Chart: Needs to include Individual Dates and Locations option, as Descendant Chart does, and then... Index Options - Needs to include Location index, as the Descendant Chart and Pedigree Charts do. Location Report: Options should include the option to Include location pictures. Event Report: Include - Report Style - List Style - Needs to include the option to Include event location pictures. As you said, many of us have invested great effort into researching and linking pictures to locations, and there needs to be a way to print those. Event pictures do not suffice for several reasons, among which: Several events for the same person may occur at the same location, so rather than allow ONLY an event picture (and marriage is not an event!), having a Location Index with one picture for each location would be preferable. I see event pictures as being pictures of the event itself -such as a baptism or wedding. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Lack Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations Dear CE, You've gone into this in much more detail than I have. Could you please spell it out/detail it a bit more - it would be really helpful Thankyou Alastair Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/05/09 06:19:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
Kirsten, As I have said before on this list, there is a heck of a difference between an upgrade and an update. Very rarely does an update create problems, whereas with an upgrade of any program bugs are not that unusual - just look at Microsoft! Updates are aimed at getting rid of bugs and improving performance, and in my view should be installed as soon as they are published. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Kirsten Bowman wrote: Dennis: Oh, drat! Since suffering 3rd degree burns in the v7 upgrade I've been very slow to update. Now it looks like you've put your finger on the GIVN and SURN problem and may have forced the issue. Thanks for checking on this. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy: Brett On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:04:16 -0700, "Kirsten Bowman" wrote: I have version 7.0.0.90 and XP, but I wouldn't expect that to make any difference. I just tried it in 7.0.0.100 on XP and it worked as Brett says. So maybe an update is in order. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy
Dennis: Oh, drat! Since suffering 3rd degree burns in the v7 upgrade I've been very slow to update. Now it looks like you've put your finger on the GIVN and SURN problem and may have forced the issue. Thanks for checking on this. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy: Brett On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:04:16 -0700, "Kirsten Bowman" wrote: >I >have version 7.0.0.90 and XP, but I wouldn't expect that to make any >difference. I just tried it in 7.0.0.100 on XP and it worked as Brett says. So maybe an update is in order. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
Dear CE, You've gone into this in much more detail than I have. Could you please spell it out/detail it a bit more - it would be really helpful Thankyou Alastair Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy: Brett
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:04:16 -0700, "Kirsten Bowman" wrote: >I >have version 7.0.0.90 and XP, but I wouldn't expect that to make any >difference. I just tried it in 7.0.0.100 on XP and it worked as Brett says. So maybe an update is in order. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census information
It seems to me that it is easier for a Splitter to move toward being a Lumper (by combining Master Sources) than it is for a Lumper to move towards being a Splitter. Do you agree? On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: > Kristen, > > I split at the county level, too, and have no problem with the number of > sources. I have found any other method unsatisfactory at some point. > > Janis > > > On 10/4/09 2:37 AM, "Kirsten Bowman" wrote: > >> Jim: >> >> You're welcome. But just be forewarned: Someday you might want to know >> which families were all living in the same state at the same time . . . or >> the same county. Then you'll be on the road to splitting. I split at the >> county level and probably have well over 200 census sources but it bothers >> me not at all. (A certain Ron is cringing at this .) >> >> Kirsten >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on >> Behalf Of Jim Walton >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:56 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information >> >> >> Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it that >> way. >> >> You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with >> 50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 census >> would have at least 13 sources plus the counties. Even narrowing it >> down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a >> Puerto Rico and Guam. >> >> But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work as >> a work-around. Thanks again. >> >> Jim >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: >>> Jim: >>> >>> That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do. (And just >> today >>> I wrote that I'm reforming from this!) >>> >>> Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census >> and >>> leave out the other location details. Then on the Source Detail screen on >>> the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the "ID of >> Person" >>> field. That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation. >>> >>> Kirsten >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on >>> Behalf Of Jim Walton >>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information >>> >>> >>> I record census information as part of residency then I can do a >>> chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related. >>> I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement >>> it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify >>> the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for >>> the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail. >>> That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because >>> different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for >>> 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New >>> Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information. >>> >>> I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the >>> override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get >>> some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities. >>> >>> Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy: Brett
Brett: Provided your John Smith and Fred Dagg are the same person with Fred Dagg being an aka, that's exactly what I want but no combination of choices found so far will give me this result. I can get the GIVN and SURN lines omitted from the primary name but not from the aka. I'm selecting "Produce file for GEDCOM 5.5 only," a customized list of items to export with the GIVN and SURN tags omitted but ALIA included, and all the boxes checked under "Groups of Items to EXCLUDE from Export" except Alternate Names and Sources. I've tried a zillion different combinations of these selections, but no luck. I have version 7.0.0.90 and XP, but I wouldn't expect that to make any difference. After three days of testing, though, a friend has helped me with a work-around so I'm getting the desired result now at last. If you see anything in the choices above that may be causing the problem, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of BMcL Robinson Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 11:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy Hi Kirsten I have just tried the procedure and it appears to do what you are wanting. I created a 2 person test database with one AKA for one of them (very simple so that I could see what was happening). I exported a gedcom for 5.5 Gedcom format (not the Legacy format default, although I am not sure if this makes a difference). I opened the file in my text editor (Notepad) so that I could see what came through - the answer was: 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME John /SMITH/ 1 NAME Fred /DAGG/ where these are the name and the AKA. Is this what you want? Cheers, Brett - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Bowman" To: Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOMs From Legacy Brett: I don't quite follow everything you've said, but it sounds fairly similar to what my more knowledgeable friend is telling me. As I understand it, Legacy isn't programmed to permit excluding GIVN and SURN tags from the aka fields; excluding those two tags only applies to the primary name. I'm not sure whether that's an intelligible response because I'm speaking in a foreign language but perhaps you'll understand. Thanks for taking a look at my annoying problem. Kirsten -Original Message- Hi Kirsten The tags you are using for names are (as in a Legacy 7 generated gedcom viewed in Notepad) for example: 0 @Ixxx@ INDI 1 NAME Joe /Bloggs/ 2 GIVN Joe 2 SURN Bloggs 1 NAME Joseph /Blogs/ 2 GIVN Joseph 2 SURN Blogs There may be other tags interspersed for sources etc where applicable, but essentially there is simply a repeat of the name, given name and surname tags for each name/AKA. I have looked at other gedcoms and seen only the level 1 NAME tag, so obviously the gedcom structure does not rely on the level 2 name tags to work. If you exclude the level 2 GIVN and 2 SURN tags then you should still get the repeat of level 1 NAME tag for each name/AKA. The AKA does not use a different tag from the "main" name in a gedcom file. Cheers, Brett - Original Message - The usual format for an individual's page at RootsWeb WorldConnect for records uploaded from a Legacy-created GEDCOM begins like this: ID: [] Name: [John Quincy Jones] Surname: [Jones] Given Name: [John Quincy] This is a useless repetition of names and clutters up the page, so I eliminate the Surname and Given Name lines by deleting the appropriate GEDCOM tags before creating the file. The trouble starts again when an individual has an aka (or 2 or 3). For each aka I still get the same three Name-Surname-Given Name lines. I can't find the GEDCOM tags that cause this in order to delete them. Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it for aka's? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Source Citation consistency - for Access & ltools users
I just recently finished converting all my US census' from basic to
Source Writer using Access at first then ltools. Wanting to verify
completeness and consistency I created a Select query combining tblSX
(Source Citaions) and tblER (Event Records) and focusing on a single,
selectable Master Source (from tblSR).
This easily shows my common mistakes. When I filled in the source
citation for census I sometimes missed the same citation used for
another event such as birth or I sometimes added a copy of parents
census and left the old unedited census for same year.
Click on the Source Detail or Content to sort and look for inconsistency.
For ltools add this to MySelectQueries.txt:
"View Source Details for a selected Master Source + their associated
event","SELECT tblSX.SrcDetail, tblSX.SrcSurety, tblSX.Content,
tblSX.EnteredSD, tblSX.IDSR, tblSX.Type, tblSX.IDIME, tblER.IDIR,
tblER.Desc, tblER.Description, tblER.EventSD FROM tblSX INNER JOIN
tblER ON tblSX.IDIME = tblER.IDER WHERE (((tblSX.IDSR)={tblSX.IDSR}))"
For Access use this query - change 280 at end to whatever Master
Source you want:
SELECT tblSX.SrcDetail, tblSX.SrcSurety, tblSX.Content,
tblSX.EnteredSD, tblSX.IDSR, tblSX.Type, tblSX.IDIME, tblER.IDIR,
tblER.Desc, tblER.Description, tblER.EventSD
FROM tblSX INNER JOIN tblER ON tblSX.IDIME = tblER.IDER
WHERE (((tblSX.IDSR)=280));
Below is excerpt from my Excel Master Source list:
IDSRSrcName
280 Census > 1860 > Michigan > Monroe
404 Census > 1860 > Michigan > Wayne
434 Census > 1860 > Ohio > Henry
403 Census > 1860 > Ohio > Lucas
428 Census > 1860 > Ohio > Putnam
Below is from Excel database borrowed from Dennis Kowallek web site. I
inseted the 3rd col. to show where to get RIN or MRIN from the query.
I deleted some LDS source types as I can't verify. Also deleted Parent
/ child relationship types which this query does shw but which require
connect to tblCR not in this query.
TypeIDIME (fgn Tbl) RIN or MRIN Comment
0 tblIR RIN=IDIME Unspecified
1 tblIR RIN=IDIME Name
2 tblIR RIN=IDIME Birth
3 tblIR RIN=IDIME Baptism
4 tblIR RIN=IDIME Death
5 tblIR RIN=IDIME Burial
6 tblIR RIN=IDIME General Notes
7 tblIR RIN=IDIME Research Notes
8 tblIR RIN=IDIME Medical Notes
9 tblIR RIN=IDIME Death Cause
19 tblIR RIN=IDIME Never Married
20 tblMR MRIN=IDIME Marriage
21 tblMR MRIN=IDIME Marriage Notes
22 tblMR MRIN=IDIME Did Not Marry
23 tblMR MRIN=IDIME Had No Children
30 tblER RIN=IDIME Individual dropdown menu events
31 tblER MRIN=IDIME Marriage dropdown menu events
tblSX.SrcDetail:
For a basic source this field contains any entries for Edit Detail >
first tab labeled Detail Information (Source Detail text box, Surety
Level, Recorded Date and File ID).
After doing a Source Conversion, any text that was in the Source
Detail text box is lost to Legacy as the new SR citaion template takes
it's place. tblSX.SrcDetail shows the basic text box text until you
click Edit Detail and Save. Then it picks up the Series # from the
Master Source plus some of the entries from Source (citation) Detail.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Different Family Lines
I am chicken, I leave all in one file and I add just plain behind the main spelling, the new variant. The new variant doesn't go up just down to the descendants who have the name. A bit funky for many I suspect Thanks to the all name indexes for the census I have followed a lot of cousins that most of us could never find in the old days and I have over 22,000 people and I need all the help I can get figuring them Eliz On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Sherry wrote: > I am getting ready to enter family information into Legacy. I am a new user > and so I have a question. There are 3 lines from the original immigrant > ancestor. Each with a variation of the last name: Nidiffer, Neidiffer, and > Nidiver. These three names developed over time as they migrated to different > parts of the country. Should I enter all of them as one great big happy > family? Or should I create different family trees in Legacy? > > Thanks. Sherry W. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
There are several reports in which you cannot choose to have even event pictures print, such as the individual report. There are many reports in which only events can have pictures print, but NOT birth, baptism, death, burial, or marriage. BTW, those are events too, but not classified as such for picture purpose. Many reports do not allow a location report to be included. All reports should have the option to include a location report that includes the location notes and/or pictures. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations Alastair Lack wrote: >> Thanks to each of you for your help. >> I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including >> locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large >> database. >> My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the >> pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't! >> I think CE is right >> Regards >> Alastair > Alastair, Just out of interest, if you are not showing where people lived as an Event, then just how are you showing their residences; or don't you bother? Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2409 - Release Date: 10/05/09 06:19:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center - Ancestor Report
Thanks, Ron. Bug Report has been filed. Judy - Original Message - From: "Ron Ferguson" To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center - Ancestor Report Judy, Apologies for an incorrect reply in my previous post. I was certain that I tested my report in the Publishing Centre, but obviously not, as the generations *are* starting on a new page even when the "start each generation on a new page is unchecked". You are correct in saying that the Reset button does not correct this. I must be getting tired! Yes, you need to report this as a bug, as Jenny (I think) suggested - (Legacy Home Tab, bottom right) Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Judy wrote: Thanks Ron. That "reset" button, done through either the individual Ancestor Report or the Ancestor Report contained within the "book" in the Publishing Center, resets the report to the default - start each generation on a new page. The button will reset the report to start each generation on a new page, but UNCHECKING the selection, **within the Publishing Center**, does nothing. Outside of the Publishing Center, my Ancestor Reports looks good - one generation follows another without a page break. I appreciate your thoughts. Judy - Original Message - From: "Ron Ferguson" To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center - Ancestor Report Judy, It works OK for me. On the Ancestry Report screen you will see a botton on the bottom right called "Reset", click that and the set you settings as you wish and see if that cures the problem. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: Judy To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: 03 October 2009 13:58 Subject: [LegacyUG] Publishing Center - Ancestor Report I'm pretty sure I've missed something, but can't figure out what. I have multiple chapters in a book - the descendant reports look fine, with sources as endnotes after each chapter. But the Ancestor reports continue to break after each generation - starting each generation on a new page, even though I have unchecked the box in the page layout report options to start a new page after each generation. Creating an Ancestor Report, starting in the "Books and Other" screen works well - no page breaks between generations. Anyone have any suggestions on how to eliminate the page breaks in an Ancestor Report when using the Publishing Center? Judy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
Alastair Lack wrote My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't! I think I've gone on record here as saying that I wish we could do that too. Can't be sure if I submitted an enhancement request to that effect, but if I did and you now do - and anyone else who favours the idea - it will add weight to the request. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
Alastair Lack wrote: Thanks to each of you for your help. I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large database. My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't! I think CE is right Regards Alastair Alastair, Just out of interest, if you are not showing where people lived as an Event, then just how are you showing their residences; or don't you bother? Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Transcribing census errors?
Oh, yes, completely agreed on that, Ron. I would only use corrective brackets in the notes field, which is where I place the transcription of the whole family. Janis On 10/3/09 6:32 PM, "Ron Ferguson" wrote: > Personally, I do not like anything in a name field other than a quoted name > in the given name field. > > If "sic" or anything else in brackets or otherwise is added to the surname > field then (a) it will > not show where you wish in an index and (b) it will not be included in a > surname search. > > In my view AKAs and Notes should be used in order to maintain the integrity > of the name fields. > > Ron Ferguson > _ > > New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website > http://www.fergys.co.uk > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > > > Janis L Gilmore wrote: >>> Mary, >>> >>> I agree with those who have advised you that accepted >>> historical/genealogical procedure is to transcribe exactly what you >>> see. You never know how it might come into play later. >>> >>> As an alternate to using "sic" in brackets, it is also appropriate >>> to insert (also in brackets) what you believe the name was intended >>> to be or should have been. >>> >>> Brackets are the universal symbol for "I'm adding something here of >>> an editorial nature, and it was not in the original." >>> >>> Janis Walker Gilmore Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census information
Kristen, I split at the county level, too, and have no problem with the number of sources. I have found any other method unsatisfactory at some point. Janis On 10/4/09 2:37 AM, "Kirsten Bowman" wrote: > Jim: > > You're welcome. But just be forewarned: Someday you might want to know > which families were all living in the same state at the same time . . . or > the same county. Then you'll be on the road to splitting. I split at the > county level and probably have well over 200 census sources but it bothers > me not at all. (A certain Ron is cringing at this .) > > Kirsten > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > Behalf Of Jim Walton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:56 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information > > > Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it that > way. > > You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with > 50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 census > would have at least 13 sources plus the counties. Even narrowing it > down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a > Puerto Rico and Guam. > > But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work as > a work-around. Thanks again. > > Jim > > > On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: >> Jim: >> >> That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do. (And just > today >> I wrote that I'm reforming from this!) >> >> Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census > and >> leave out the other location details. Then on the Source Detail screen on >> the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the "ID of > Person" >> field. That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation. >> >> Kirsten >> >> -Original Message- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on >> Behalf Of Jim Walton >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information >> >> >> I record census information as part of residency then I can do a >> chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related. >> I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement >> it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify >> the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for >> the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail. >> That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because >> different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for >> 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New >> Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information. >> >> I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the >> override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get >> some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities. >> >> Jim > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations
Thanks to each of you for your help. I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large database. My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't! I think CE is right Regards Alastair Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
