Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
Bob, I haven't done many Obituaries, but I generally enter it as a Source, adding either a scanned image of the Obit. or typing in the text of the Obit. in the Text field (choosing typically not to print it). Then I like to put the information from the Obituary in as Events and/or Notes on the people involved, or just use the Obit. as a source for the parents' or siblings' names. You might enter the pallbearer information on the individual(s) serving and/or enter them as a list in the Burial Notes. (I've also seen on this list that people set up Funeral events.) In short, I rarely print the Obituary itself in the book reports I use. Hope this helps. --Paula Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the end. In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal preference? Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
Thanks Ron - I enjoyed your take on writing vs accountancy. inline: Beer Glass Smiley.jpg Thank goodness Legacy has the book features automated, I too would have trouble writing a book from scratch. Bob On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:04 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: Bob, I have never pretended to have sufficient skills to write a book, although I'm reasonably OK at accountancy. The difference being that the former demands some artistic ability whereas the latter is a series of lists. It follows, therefore that the answer must be personal choice. Now back to my web pages ;-) Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:17:57 -0400 From: s...@cox.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the end. In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal preference? Bob _ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the end. In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal preference? Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
Bob, This kind of option has been touched on before - basically personal preference. I am normally a lumper. Obituaries go into Source Detail Text (if transcribed) or Source Detail Multimedia. I don't expect to reproduce them for everyone, unless there is something unusual, noteworthy, or well-phrased. If so, I accept the redundancy of copying or extracting what I need into Death Notes or General Notes or elsewhere. Mike Michael J Method family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley In a message dated 7/15/2009 7:22:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s...@cox.net writes: A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the end. In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal preference? Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
Well, I made a custom event for obituaries. There is general one already, but mine allows me to include everything from an obit, pall bearers (they could be family members and relatives), speakers, singers, etc. In addition I also include funeral home information- what if the deceased is related to someone at the funeral home? So I made a custom event for everything I wanted to keep from an obit, and so far, it works well for me. Robert At 2009-07-15 06:17 PM, you wrote: A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the end. In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal preference? Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
Bob, I have never pretended to have sufficient skills to write a book, although I'm reasonably OK at accountancy. The difference being that the former demands some artistic ability whereas the latter is a series of lists. It follows, therefore that the answer must be personal choice. Now back to my web pages ;-) Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:17:57 -0400 From: s...@cox.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the end. In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal preference? Bob _ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
Bob: For what it's worth, I like to enter any confirmations the person existed under events, which would include a biography. I enjoy the feature of having a date, or a span of time, to reflect the information and source details. I use the general and research notes more to remind me of what I have done or a Possible source for that person. I do use the Medical notes to describe the persons death, or disease they died from. Hope this helps... Paul www.pdcroteau.com - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:04:37 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
Two things here which I don't quite understand. Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; Why does the sourcing information need to be added to the narrative? If you are thinking of having several pieces of data from different sources in the Notes, you could just add a brief pointer to which particular Source of several cited relates to that particular section. OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. Why does the data become a short cryptic entry? - unless that is the way you have entered it. You can put your short cryptic entry in the Event Description field and then expand as much as you like in the Event Notes. The footnote then directs the reader to the Source Citation. If you have included all the text (or similar detail) of the Source in the Event Notes you don't need to repeat it as part of the Source Citation (although you may wish to do so and not necessarily have it print on reports where it would be duplication.) -- Jenny M Benson *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
My preference is to use Events so I can attach photos and/or documents specific to the event or time frame. I intend to eventually use Legacy created web pages to update my web site (once I get everything setup) and this will allow photos and documents to be mixed with text throughout a person's page. Another advantage to Events over Notes is that you can see at a glance what you have (or what you are missing) for a person. Linda On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general information like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I will place it in the person's notes. General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I add this to the birth notes. General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents home.., I add this to the baptism notes. The same for death and burial information. When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth announcement, etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as events. Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I would enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it written or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a picture, then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes section or when possible I will just copy and paste the article into the notes section of the event. As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new information to each location that I enter new information into. Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you locate the one that works best for you. Leo Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
It seems to be that the biography would be neither note nor event but a source. It is what is within the biography that would go into an event or note. I would put most of the information in as an event. Notes I use for information I'm not sure about or general information about a person. I note the source use name and/or file id of the source and then the note. I would put the 1860 census as an event. As someone mentioned in another thread I would use the type of event as Census, use the census itself as a source and make any notes in the event note field. Mary Beth Figgins leo macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general information like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I will place it in the person's notes. General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I add this to the birth notes. General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents home.., I add this to the baptism notes. The same for death and burial information. When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth announcement, etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as events. Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I would enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it written or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a picture, then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes section or when possible I will just copy and paste the article into the notes section of the event. As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new information to each location that I enter new information into. Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you locate the one that works best for you. Leo Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
I can't see a biography as an event or as a note. I'd make the biography a source (relative A being the source of the source) and then add the events in the biography with whatever additional notes were needed. --- On Thu, 12/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events To: Legacy LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 11:04 AM I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
I agree with Paul on this. It also offers the added benefit of being able to move the information up or down in the events - to appear first or last, or chronologically. Janis On 12/4/08 6:19 AM, Paul Croteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob: For what it's worth, I like to enter any confirmations the person existed under events, which would include a biography. I enjoy the feature of having a date, or a span of time, to reflect the information and source details. I use the general and research notes more to remind me of what I have done or a Possible source for that person. I do use the Medical notes to describe the persons death, or disease they died from. Hope this helps... Paul www.pdcroteau.com - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:04:37 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
I add notes to events. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Legacy LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:04 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
However, Mary Beth, sometimes it is nice to include a biography, as a whole, within a report, for which placement in an event is nice. It would, of course, also be the source for that event. Janis On 12/4/08 9:34 AM, Mary Figgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be that the biography would be neither note nor event but a source. It is what is within the biography that would go into an event or note. I would put most of the information in as an event. Notes I use for information I'm not sure about or general information about a person. I note the source use name and/or file id of the source and then the note. I would put the 1860 census as an event. As someone mentioned in another thread I would use the type of event as Census, use the census itself as a source and make any notes in the event note field. Mary Beth Figgins leo macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general information like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I will place it in the person's notes. General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I add this to the birth notes. General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents home.., I add this to the baptism notes. The same for death and burial information. When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth announcement, etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as events. Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I would enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it written or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a picture, then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes section or when possible I will just copy and paste the article into the notes section of the event. As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new information to each location that I enter new information into. Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you locate the one that works best for you. Leo Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy
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Exactly Janis... Another example: I add an event Obituary / Biography for a relative and use that same Obituary / Biography as a source for other details that reflect the family or the relative directly. I concur that when I print a report, the Obituary is displayed with the related person, and again in the source information... if I chose to release my sources. That is what I like about Legacy, you have many choices to the end user, on how you wish to display or record information. All methods are correct - just your personal preference. I used to simply record the census date and place in an event, now I'm going back and including as much data in the census event notes. I've been told that my father never used that surname - but when I show them the birth certificate or military record with that surname spelling, it makes a difference. (g) I had one person deny their parents every had a child name Mary for example. Now with the census event notes, I can show them, their parents did in fact have a child that died early in age named Mary. Paul From: Janis L Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:03:18 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events However, Mary Beth, sometimes it is nice to include a biography, as a whole, within a report, for which placement in an event is nice. It would, of course, also be the source for that event. Janis On 12/4/08 9:34 AM, Mary Figgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be that the biography would be neither note nor event but a source. It is what is within the biography that would go into an event or note. I would put most of the information in as an event. Notes I use for information I'm not sure about or general information about a person. I note the source use name and/or file id of the source and then the note. I would put the 1860 census as an event. As someone mentioned in another thread I would use the type of event as Census, use the census itself as a source and make any notes in the event note field. Mary Beth Figgins leo macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general information like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I will place it in the person's notes. General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I add this to the birth notes. General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents home.., I add this to the baptism notes. The same for death and burial information. When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth announcement, etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as events. Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I would enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it written or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a picture, then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes section or when possible I will just copy and paste the article into the notes section of the event. As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new information to each location that I enter new information into. Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you locate the one that works best for you. Leo Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility Legacy offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then use various options to only include what we want. For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in the General Notes. - One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy brackets) and just get the information in the Events. - Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all Event Notes. This can be done a number of ways: - Remove the [notes] from the Event sentence (requires more effort than the other methods below) - Make the event private and not including private Events - Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes There are very likely other ways to accomplish this. It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so we need to be sure we want it. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
That is a good workable idea (most of Geoff¹s are). (-: However, something in me rebels against the ³messiness² of throwing something into general notes. I like to enter each piece of data into its own little cell. Maybe because I was on TMG prior to Legacy. I would, in fact, like to see a somewhat more atomic approach within Legacy. (I just couldn¹t live with the crude TMG graphics. They drove me crazy. Call me superficial. g) Janis On 12/4/08 2:33 PM, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility Legacy offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then use various options to only include what we want. For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in the General Notes. - One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy brackets) and just get the information in the Events. - Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all Event Notes. This can be done a number of ways: - Remove the [notes] from the Event sentence (requires more effort than the other methods below) - Make the event private and not including private Events - Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes There are very likely other ways to accomplish this. It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so we need to be sure we want it. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an event and would like some views on where folks place specific data . For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event? Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ). It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature. Bob *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
Janis, What Geoff was specifically suggesting to me, is putting information in both Event Notes and Source Text. I am still considering that option. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Janis L Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: That is a good workable idea (most of Geoff's are). (-: However, something in me rebels against the messiness of throwing something into general notes. I like to enter each piece of data into its own little cell. Maybe because I was on TMG prior to Legacy. I would, in fact, like to see a somewhat more atomic approach within Legacy. (I just couldn't live with the crude TMG graphics. They drove me crazy. Call me superficial. g) Janis On 12/4/08 2:33 PM, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility Legacy offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then use various options to only include what we want. For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in the General Notes. - One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy brackets) and just get the information in the Events. - Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all Event Notes. This can be done a number of ways: - Remove the [notes] from the Event sentence (requires more effort than the other methods below) - Make the event private and not including private Events - Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes There are very likely other ways to accomplish this. It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so we need to be sure we want it. *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
I understood that, and I understand the flexibility that it would offer. It¹s a good idea. For me, however, I simply stopped using the General notes some time ago, except as a convenient occasional ³parking spot² for some bit of info I was in the active stages of investigating. Janis On 12/4/08 3:35 PM, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Geoff was specifically suggesting to me, is putting information in both Event Notes and Source Text. I am still considering that option. *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
Please send your messages in plain text as per the Legacy guidelines. Ron Bernier Sent from my Blackberry Storm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thu Dec 04 15:35:12 2008 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Janis, What Geoff was specifically suggesting to me, is putting information in both Event Notes and Source Text. I am still considering that option. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Janis L Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a good workable idea (most of Geoff's are). (-: However, something in me rebels against the messiness of throwing something into general notes. I like to enter each piece of data into its own little cell. Maybe because I was on TMG prior to Legacy. I would, in fact, like to see a somewhat more atomic approach within Legacy. (I just couldn't live with the crude TMG graphics. They drove me crazy. Call me superficial. g) Janis On 12/4/08 2:33 PM, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility Legacy offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then use various options to only include what we want. For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in the General Notes. - One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy brackets) and just get the information in the Events. - Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all Event Notes. This can be done a number of ways: - Remove the [notes] from the Event sentence (requires more effort than the other methods below) - Make the event private and not including private Events - Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes There are very likely other ways to accomplish this. It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so we need to be sure we want it. *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more.http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt*** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp attachment: winmail.dat
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If one uses Events, can one still copy and paste interesting bits into that as one can do with notes? tish Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Notes vs Events
Sure, there is a Notes tab on every fact/event. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Tish To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes vs Events If one uses Events, can one still copy and paste interesting bits into that as one can do with notes? tish Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
