Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Ann Parsons
Momalot,

Had you thought about looking at an atlas?? I did and Benton also a Benton 
Station are north east of Chattanooga, Tennessee. I have found it helps to 
look at an atlas in situations such as this one you have.

Ann


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  My file in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b  1927, sent me to the Benton 
in
  Tennessee near Nashville.  I know there  is something weird going on. 
I've
  looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and  will continue to read them - 
project in
  Legacy along with photos :-).   .  I'm wondering if there is someplace 
for me
  to get an update for the  geo-locations?  Is it a subscription with in
  Legacy that I might have  signed up for when I  bougt Legacy?   I cannot 
remember.
What do I need to do? 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same wherever, 
but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and use more or 
less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places, forces me to 
make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. 
Rich in LA CA


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 From: momalo...@aol.com momalo...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:33 PM
 Is or was there a special package to geo  locations when I
 first got it?  I 
 really haven't used it very much  yet.  It doesn't
 seem to work right AND when 
 I realized it may only be  available in the USA, well. . .
 . I'll just keep 
 reading and trying to  understand it.  I do have a computer
 tech coming 
 tomorrow.  My  computers may be the problem!!!  Thanks to
 all you Legacy User Group  
 for responding to my many questions.  
 
 In a message dated 2/20/2009  11:44:38 A.M. Pacific
 Standard Time, 
 geosc...@gmail.com writes:
 Just added an  UNLINKED PERSON to test this for you...
 listed him as
 born in Benton, ,  Illinois, USA -- and clicked on the
 GLOBE.  The GEO
 LOCATIONS system  listed Benton, Franklin, Illinois,
 USA as proper.
 I double clicked on it -  and changed the  Benton, ,
 Illinois, USA to
 Benton, Franklin, Illinois,  USA and made the
 SHORT name  Benton, IL
 and clicked save.
 
 It  now reads correctly - and - if I go to a map - shows it
 just east
 of West  City near I-57 Illinois.
 
 Seems to work fine!
 
 Keith
 
 On Fri,  Feb 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM, 
 momalo...@aol.com wrote:
  My file  in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b  1927,
 sent me to the Benton in
   Tennessee near Nashville.  I know there  is something
 weird going  on.  
 I've
  looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and  will  continue
 to read them - 
 project in
  Legacy along with photos  :-).   . 
 I'm wondering if there is someplace 
 for me
  to  get an update for the  geo-locations? 
 Is it a subscription with  in
  Legacy that I might have  signed up for when I  bougt 
 Legacy?   I cannot 
 remember.
   What do I need to  do?
 
  In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:57:00 A.M.  Pacific 
 Standard Time,
  ge...@cedarbank.me.uk writes:
   wrote
 When  I tried to find Benton IL it said
 TN, MS,   IA, and OR, yet when
 I  SEARCH for it, Benton, IL comes up in  Franklin 
 County. When I try to
 find it in Legacy, it sent me to  TN.  Where do  I
 learn more  about  GEO
 LOCATIONS?
 
  I don't really understand what you  are  saying. 
 Where and how were you
  trying to find Benton  other than 
 Searching for it?  And what do you
  mean exactly by  When I try to find  it in
 Legacy, it sent me to TN?
 
  If  you click Help or press F1 from the  Geo Locations
 screen it will  take
  you directly to the relevant Help  page.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread circe
So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones 
have a blank field in the middle. 

What's wrong with using Google?  If I'm working in a foreign country, Google is 
always
open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and 
have the
correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for each 
person.

It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank 
space, and
even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see if 
it's
correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone 
whose dates
are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because it's 
obvious
that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to ensure 
the
accuracy of their work.

There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a 
public spot, I
want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it.

Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered some 
ancestors
from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to 
the story
which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of 
his
excellent vocabulary.

As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more 
attention in
History class in school.

Helen






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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread GeoSci
Careful - there are other reasons for blanks in the middle - not just
because someone  hasn't done his homework or is too lazy.   I have
several persons from (according to sources) a certain town in
Pennsylvania - but - even with Google - I cannot figure out the County
since the town exists in several different Counties.

Keith

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:13 PM,  ci...@treadles.ca wrote:
So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones 
have a blank field in the middle.

 What's wrong with using Google?  If I'm working in a foreign country, Google 
 is always
 open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and 
 have the
 correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for 
 each person.

 It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank 
 space, and
 even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see 
 if it's
 correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone 
 whose dates
 are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because 
 it's obvious
 that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to 
 ensure the
 accuracy of their work.

 There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a 
 public spot, I
 want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it.

 Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered 
 some ancestors
 from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to 
 the story
 which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of 
 his
 excellent vocabulary.

 As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more 
 attention in
 History class in school.

 Helen






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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread ronald ferguson

Helen,
 
It is *not* because people haven't done their homework that there are 
frequently locations with less than 4 fields in Europe. It is because we are 
not American, and our locations do not fit American conventions, neither 
historically nor now.



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 From: ci...@treadles.ca
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:13:22 -0500

So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones 
have a blank field in the middle.

 What's wrong with using Google? If I'm working in a foreign country, Google 
 is always
 open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and 
 have the
 correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for 
 each person.

 It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank 
 space, and
 even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see 
 if it's
 correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone 
 whose dates
 are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because 
 it's obvious
 that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to 
 ensure the
 accuracy of their work.

 There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a 
 public spot, I
 want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it.

 Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered 
 some ancestors
 from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to 
 the story
 which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of 
 his
 excellent vocabulary.

 As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more 
 attention in
 History class in school.

 Helen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread circe
Ron, I seem to have missed the point here. 

I have locations any where from three to six fields. They're entered exactly as 
they
appear.. Will this cause problems? If so, then I must learn to deal with them 
otherwise
the locations aren't accurate.

Or are you talking about depending on the Geo Locator only? 

Helen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
You are correct. I answered separately for an off-site discussion.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, ci...@treadles.ca ci...@treadles.ca wrote:

 From: ci...@treadles.ca ci...@treadles.ca
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 1:13 PM
 So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make
 most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. 
 
 What's wrong with using Google?  If I'm working in
 a foreign country, Google is always
 open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my
 ancestors came from and have the
 correct name, township, county, province, state, canton,
 country, etc. for each person.
 
 It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework
 when there's a blank space, and
 even when the middle location is provided,
 using Google will check to see if it's
 correct. I've caught several errors that way and when
 discovered for someone whose dates
 are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with
 that tree because it's obvious
 that either they've copied the data from someone else
 or are too lazy to ensure the
 accuracy of their work.
 
 There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when
 I put mine in a public spot, I
 want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it.
 
 Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I
 recently discovered some ancestors
 from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look
 around. That lead to the story
 which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington
 Irving's stories because of his
 excellent vocabulary.
 
 As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I
 wish I'd paid more attention in
 History class in school.
 
 Helen
 
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Art Seddon
Hi Rich,

I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the 
location list set to sort fron right to left so I end up with all the 
Northumberland, England come up together.

But bland commas, never!

Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

Cramlington, Northumberland, England

SegHill, Northumberland, England

Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, 
California, USA

Art Seddon

- Original Message - 
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations


What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same 
wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and 
use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places, 
forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle.
Rich in LA CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Art Seddon
Gad, gotta fix my spell checker!!!
Art

- Original Message - 
From: Art Seddon
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations


Hi Rich,

I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the
location list set to sort fron right to left so I end up with all the
Northumberland, England come up together.

But bland commas, never!

Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

Cramlington, Northumberland, England

SegHill, Northumberland, England

Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
California, USA

Art Seddon

- Original Message - 
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations


What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same
wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and
use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places,
forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle.
Rich in LA CA




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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread ronald ferguson

Where are you looking, Art?
 
If you look in the Location Master list for Cramlington, Northumberland, 
England and click the globe you will see Cramlington, , Northumberland, 
England - I pasted that, copied from there btw. Didn't try the others.



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 From: ased...@artseddon.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:16:31 -0800

 Hi Rich,

 I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the
 location list set to sort fron right to left so I end up with all the
 Northumberland, England come up together.

 But bland commas, never!

 Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

 Cramlington, Northumberland, England

 SegHill, Northumberland, England

 Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

 Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
 California, USA

 Art Seddon

 - Original Message -
 From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations


 What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same
 wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and
 use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places,
 forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle.
 Rich in LA CA

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread circe
Ron,

Your previous post strongly implied that if there were spaces then the 
location was incomplete.
Yes, it did. What I'm trying to say is that the appearance of the 
address with two
commas, to an outsider, one who has no knowledge of Legacy, the Geo Locator 
facility or
British geography, could easily wonder what was supposed to go or had 
originally been
between the two commas. I know I did.

I've seen double commas with French, German and Dutch trees and to me it looks 
like
someone hasn't bothered to complete the address. When checking out the town 
name in
Google, I'll often come across a more complete address. 

All I'm saying really is that double commas can cast a shadow on the 
credibility of the
tree owner. Yes, I always check any trees I might find on line but when there's 
a choice
of two or three, I'll chose the one that appears the most credible. And if the 
credibility
is 100%, then I'll write and offer everything I have that ties in with that 
tree.

I simply enter the place name as is and the number of fields be damned.

BTW London is London, England - and because I'm more or less from Manchester 
that is 
Manchester, England as befits our second city ;-).
Strange, I always thought it was the Pool. (-:

Helen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread circe

Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

Cramlington, Northumberland, England

SegHill, Northumberland, England

Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
California, USA

Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has 
townships
within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within 
counties, but
I'll admit my ignorance. 

What does Australia have? Provinces, states?

And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?

I'll enter -

Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England

Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada

but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work 
from there
or plod through Google..

It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes 
things a lot
clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's 
geography.

Helen



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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread ronald ferguson

Seems, like we are pretty much in agreement (apart from the Pool), I think you 
will have gathered that I do more or less the same as yourself.
 
With some, the problem of comma/space/comma arises through trying to make a 
location fit a pattern which wasn't designed with our (and other) locations in 
mind, because they think this is how it should be done, rather than through 
lack of care. Personally I use your approach of entering the location as 
accurately as I can and pay little or no interest to a synthetic convention.



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 From: ci...@treadles.ca
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:56:05 -0500

 Ron,

Your previous post strongly implied that if there were spaces then the 
location was incomplete.
 Yes, it did. What I'm trying to say is that the appearance of the address 
 with two
 commas, to an outsider, one who has no knowledge of Legacy, the Geo Locator 
 facility or
 British geography, could easily wonder what was supposed to go or had 
 originally been
 between the two commas. I know I did.

 I've seen double commas with French, German and Dutch trees and to me it 
 looks like
 someone hasn't bothered to complete the address. When checking out the town 
 name in
 Google, I'll often come across a more complete address.

 All I'm saying really is that double commas can cast a shadow on the 
 credibility of the
 tree owner. Yes, I always check any trees I might find on line but when 
 there's a choice
 of two or three, I'll chose the one that appears the most credible. And if 
 the credibility
 is 100%, then I'll write and offer everything I have that ties in with that 
 tree.

 I simply enter the place name as is and the number of fields be damned.

BTW London is London, England - and because I'm more or less from 
Manchester that is
Manchester, England as befits our second city ;-).
 Strange, I always thought it was the Pool. (-:

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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread ronald ferguson

Helen,
 
Our set up is somewhat more complex than that and has been revised many times 
over the centuries. Only the county of Yorkshire had Ridings and these have now 
gone.
 
I recommend http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm for a detailed 
explanation of the history of our locations. 



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 From: ci...@treadles.ca
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:02:56 -0500


Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

Cramlington, Northumberland, England

SegHill, Northumberland, England

Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
California, USA

 Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has 
 townships
 within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within 
 counties, but
 I'll admit my ignorance.

 What does Australia have? Provinces, states?

 And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?

 I'll enter -

 Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England

 Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada

 but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work 
 from there
 or plod through Google..

 It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes 
 things a lot
 clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's 
 geography.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham

Which town? and a name of a person?  Maybe I know someone.

  Elizabeth C

GeoSci wrote:

Careful - there are other reasons for blanks in the middle - not just
because someone  hasn't done his homework or is too lazy.   I have
several persons from (according to sources) a certain town in
Pennsylvania - but - even with Google - I cannot figure out the County
since the town exists in several different Counties.

Keith

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:13 PM,  ci...@treadles.ca wrote:
  

So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones 
have a blank field in the middle.
  

What's wrong with using Google?  If I'm working in a foreign country, Google is 
always
open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and 
have the
correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for each 
person.

It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank 
space, and
even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see if 
it's
correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone 
whose dates
are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because it's 
obvious
that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to ensure 
the
accuracy of their work.

There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a 
public spot, I
want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it.

Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered some 
ancestors
from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to 
the story
which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of 
his
excellent vocabulary.

As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more 
attention in
History class in school.

Helen






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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread GeoSci
IN the USA - you have States - Counties - then it can get odd.  In the
East you have Townships and Boroughs - but within the townships you
often have Villages -- for example Maytown is  a village within East
Donegal Township, Lancaster County.  In Delaware - we have hundreds
- a leftover from colonial days - areas that (at the time) contained
100 families.  We have no townships.  Cities are usually separated
from the townships.  In the WEST - you can have sections using a
system of township and range numbers.

In short - the 4 system does not work as well as many think - even in
the US!  But is can be worked with...   I often list Township [Village
name], County, State, USA  or City (or borough), County, State, USA .

Keith

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:02 PM,  ci...@treadles.ca wrote:

Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

Cramlington, Northumberland, England

SegHill, Northumberland, England

Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
California, USA

 Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has 
 townships
 within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within 
 counties, but
 I'll admit my ignorance.

 What does Australia have? Provinces, states?

 And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?

 I'll enter -

 Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England

 Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada

 but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work 
 from there
 or plod through Google..

 It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes 
 things a lot
 clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's 
 geography.

 Helen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Art Seddon
Ron,

If the mapping don't find it I move to it manually. I have all of those 
entries show up correctly on the map. I have the information that I need 
with no extra garbage and everything is easy to find. Maybe a little more 
work, but the results are worth it.

Cramlington, Northumberland, England is at N550513.78 W0013519.723

Art

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations



Where are you looking, Art?

If you look in the Location Master list for Cramlington, Northumberland, 
England and click the globe you will see Cramlington, , Northumberland, 
England - I pasted that, copied from there btw. Didn't try the others.



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 From: ased...@artseddon.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:16:31 -0800

 Hi Rich,

 I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the
 location list set to sort from right to left so I end up with all the
 Northumberland, England come up together.

 But blank commas, never!

 Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

 Cramlington, Northumberland, England

 SegHill, Northumberland, England

 Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

 Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
 California, USA

 Art Seddon

 - Original Message -
 From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations


 What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same
 wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and
 use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA 
 places,
 forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Gene Young

ci...@treadles.ca wrote:



And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?


I'll give you an example.

I am from the
Hamlet of Montrose
in the township of Cortland Manor
in the county of Westchester
in the State of New York
in the U.S.A.

That would be

Montrose, Cortlandt Manor, Westchester, New York, USA

Thats 5 place names and it is in the USA so you can see that the 4 place 
format doesn't always fit here either.  But 4 places is a reasonable 
compromise and you can set your reports to eliminate extra commas so I 
see no problem with people unfamiliar with Legacy ever seeing an extra 
comma.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
The US has townships, sometimes boroughs, within counties.  Some cities, 
like Richmond, VA, do not have a county, and in Philadelphia, the City 
and County merged over 150 years ago.  My husband, however, grew up in a 
township.


 Elizabeth C

ci...@treadles.ca wrote:

Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England

Cramlington, Northumberland, England

SegHill, Northumberland, England

Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia

Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
California, USA



Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has 
townships
within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within 
counties, but
I'll admit my ignorance. 


What does Australia have? Provinces, states?

And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?

I'll enter -

Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England

Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada

but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work 
from there
or plod through Google..

It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes 
things a lot
clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's 
geography.

Helen

  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
And your example does not even include street addresses, which I must 
have.  For one grandfather, I have over 20 addresses within a mile or so 
in Philadelphia, and just using the city would be no help at all.


  Elizabeth C

Gene Young wrote:

ci...@treadles.ca wrote:


And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?

I'll give you an example.

I am from the
Hamlet of Montrose
in the township of Cortland Manor
in the county of Westchester
in the State of New York
in the U.S.A.

That would be

Montrose, Cortlandt Manor, Westchester, New York, USA

Thats 5 place names and it is in the USA so you can see that the 4 
place format doesn't always fit here either.  But 4 places is a 
reasonable compromise and you can set your reports to eliminate extra 
commas so I see no problem with people unfamiliar with Legacy ever 
seeing an extra comma.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Todd Carnes


- Original Message - 
From: ci...@treadles.ca

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Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations



And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?


Most states in the USA have counties and then the counties can be further 
broken down into townships. However, Louisiana doesn't have counties. They 
have parishes. I'm not sure if parishes are broken into smaller pieces or 
not.


Personally, I only use townships when I don't know a city/town/village/etc. 
or if they lived out in the boonies and city/town doesn't apply.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Art Seddon
Helen (ci...@treadles.ca ) writes:

Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England
Cramlington, Northumberland, England
SegHill, Northumberland, England
Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia
Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange,
California, USA

Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada 
has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or 
parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance.

What does Australia have? Provinces, states?

And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships?

I'll enter -

Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England

Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada

but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and 
work from there or plod through Google..

It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes 
things a lot clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that 
particular country's geography.

Helen

Most of the USA has townships subdividing the counties, but they are seldom 
noted in locations except for legal description of real property. When 
appropriate or required I use the abreviation 'Twp.'. I normally use the 
'city, county, state, USA' convention within the USA, except in those cases 
where a city does not have a county and some other special cases like 
'Washington, District of Columbia, USA' - there is no county involved in 
D.C., which is technichally not a state either.

And I try to use the local convention in non USA locations.

I'll let someone from OZ give the conventions there.

With grandparents from Australia, England and from Illinois before most of 
the counties were formed it is being quite an education.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-21 Thread Colin Liddell

We have two Territories as well and Tasmania.{;-)

Colin.
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From: Laurence E Stephenson

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations


Art Seddon wrote:


Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada
has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or
parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance.

What does Australia have? Provinces, states?



Australia has Town or City, State, Country

Hampton Park, Victoria, Australia.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread Jenny M Benson

 wrote
When I tried to find Benton IL it said TN, MS,  IA, and OR, yet when 
I SEARCH for it, Benton, IL comes up in Franklin  County. When I try to 
find it in Legacy, it sent me to TN.  Where do  I learn more about GEO 
LOCATIONS?


I don't really understand what you are saying.  Where and how were you 
trying to find Benton other than Searching for it?  And what do you 
mean exactly by When I try to find it in Legacy, it sent me to TN?


If you click Help or press F1 from the Geo Locations screen it will take 
you directly to the relevant Help page.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread Momalot66
My file in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b  1927, sent me to the Benton in 
Tennessee near Nashville.  I know there  is something weird going on.  I've 
looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and  will continue to read them - project in 
Legacy along with photos :-).   .  I'm wondering if there is someplace for me 
to get an update for the  geo-locations?  Is it a subscription with in 
Legacy that I might have  signed up for when I  bougt Legacy?   I cannot 
remember. 
  What do I need to do?

In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:57:00 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
ge...@cedarbank.me.uk writes:
wrote
When  I tried to find Benton IL it said TN, MS,  IA, and OR, yet when 
I  SEARCH for it, Benton, IL comes up in Franklin  County. When I try to  
find it in Legacy, it sent me to TN.  Where do  I learn more  about GEO 
LOCATIONS?

I don't really understand what you are  saying.  Where and how were you 
trying to find Benton other than  Searching for it?  And what do you 
mean exactly by When I try to find  it in Legacy, it sent me to TN?

If you click Help or press F1 from the  Geo Locations screen it will take 
you directly to the relevant Help  page.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread GeoSci
Just added an UNLINKED PERSON to test this for you... listed him as
born in Benton, , Illinois, USA -- and clicked on the GLOBE.  The GEO
LOCATIONS system listed Benton, Franklin, Illinois, USA as proper.
I double clicked on it - and changed the  Benton, , Illinois, USA to
Benton, Franklin, Illinois, USA and made the SHORT name  Benton, IL
and clicked save.

It now reads correctly - and - if I go to a map - shows it just east
of West City near I-57 Illinois.

Seems to work fine!

Keith

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM,  momalo...@aol.com wrote:
 My file in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b  1927, sent me to the Benton in
 Tennessee near Nashville.  I know there  is something weird going on.  I've
 looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and  will continue to read them - project 
 in
 Legacy along with photos :-).   .  I'm wondering if there is someplace for 
 me
 to get an update for the  geo-locations?  Is it a subscription with in
 Legacy that I might have  signed up for when I  bougt Legacy?   I cannot 
 remember.
  What do I need to do?

 In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:57:00 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 ge...@cedarbank.me.uk writes:
 wrote
When  I tried to find Benton IL it said TN, MS,  IA, and OR, yet when
I  SEARCH for it, Benton, IL comes up in Franklin  County. When I try to
find it in Legacy, it sent me to TN.  Where do  I learn more  about GEO
LOCATIONS?

 I don't really understand what you are  saying.  Where and how were you
 trying to find Benton other than  Searching for it?  And what do you
 mean exactly by When I try to find  it in Legacy, it sent me to TN?

 If you click Help or press F1 from the  Geo Locations screen it will take
 you directly to the relevant Help  page.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread CE WOOD
I just looked up Benton in my Geo Location Database.  Without specifying 
County, State/Province, or Country, there were 3 in Canada, 1 in Malaysia, and 
30 in the USA, including one in Franklin County, Illinois.


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  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations


  My file in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b  1927, sent me to the Benton in 
  Tennessee near Nashville.  I know there  is something weird going on.  I've 
  looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and  will continue to read them - project 
in 
  Legacy along with photos :-).   .  I'm wondering if there is someplace for 
me 
  to get an update for the  geo-locations?  Is it a subscription with in 
  Legacy that I might have  signed up for when I  bougt Legacy?   I cannot 
remember. 
What do I need to do?

  In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:57:00 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
  ge...@cedarbank.me.ukmailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk writes:
  wrote
  When  I tried to find Benton IL it said TN, MS,  IA, and OR, yet when 
  I  SEARCH for it, Benton, IL comes up in Franklin  County. When I try to  
  find it in Legacy, it sent me to TN.  Where do  I learn more  about GEO 
  LOCATIONS?

  I don't really understand what you are  saying.  Where and how were you 
  trying to find Benton other than  Searching for it?  And what do you 
  mean exactly by When I try to find  it in Legacy, it sent me to TN?

  If you click Help or press F1 from the  Geo Locations screen it will take 
  you directly to the relevant Help  page.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread circe
Are there any plans to put Canada and Britain in the Geo Location thingie? It 
sure would
be a big help - or is the USA the only country that matters?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread ronald ferguson

Helen,

Go to OptionsCustomiseOther and click the Geo Locations button to import 
other DBs


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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:50:50 -0500

 Are there any plans to put Canada and Britain in the Geo Location thingie? It 
 sure would
 be a big help - or is the USA the only country that matters?

 Helen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread Bob Janice

England and Canada are already in mine . . . . .

Bob


ci...@treadles.ca wrote:

Are there any plans to put Canada and Britain in the Geo Location thingie? It 
sure would
be a big help - or is the USA the only country that matters?

Helen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread circe
Ron - 

Wow, I'm impressed that Legacy has covered the world.

Sadly though, I know now why I've never used the Geo Location facility. I must 
thank
Legacy for preparing one for Canada however the great majority of my Canadian 
ancestors
were born in the country, not in cities, where their birth or death location 
mighty read -

Louth Township, Lincoln County, Ontario.

One could add a lot and concession number to be even more specific. In the 
early days of
Canadian genealogy, there were no cities. There wasn't even Ontario or Quebec 
until after
1867.

Now I remember it all. I did download the Canadian Geo Location file a few 
versions ago
and deleted it for lack of counties and townships, as city locations are no 
problem and
rarely needed.. 

It would be a major task to detail Canadian locations but Legacy has at least 
made the
effort for which it deserves credit.

Helen



On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:01:33 +, you wrote:

Helen,

Go to OptionsCustomiseOther and click the Geo Locations button to import 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread ronald ferguson

Helen,
 
We have the same problem over here, and nor do our locations fit the US 
formulaic 4 field system. As I consequence I rarely use it for the intended 
purpose, outside US locations that is.



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 From: ci...@treadles.ca
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:40:49 -0500

 Ron -

 Wow, I'm impressed that Legacy has covered the world.

 Sadly though, I know now why I've never used the Geo Location facility. I 
 must thank
 Legacy for preparing one for Canada however the great majority of my Canadian 
 ancestors
 were born in the country, not in cities, where their birth or death location 
 mighty read -

 Louth Township, Lincoln County, Ontario.

 One could add a lot and concession number to be even more specific. In the 
 early days of
 Canadian genealogy, there were no cities. There wasn't even Ontario or Quebec 
 until after
 1867.

 Now I remember it all. I did download the Canadian Geo Location file a few 
 versions ago
 and deleted it for lack of counties and townships, as city locations are no 
 problem and
 rarely needed..

 It would be a major task to detail Canadian locations but Legacy has at least 
 made the
 effort for which it deserves credit.

 Helen



 On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:01:33 +, you wrote:

Helen,

Go to OptionsCustomiseOther and click the Geo Locations button to import 
other DBs


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations

2009-02-20 Thread Momalot66
Is or was there a special package to geo  locations when I first got it?  I 
really haven't used it very much  yet.  It doesn't seem to work right AND when 
I realized it may only be  available in the USA, well. . . . I'll just keep 
reading and trying to  understand it.  I do have a computer tech coming 
tomorrow.  My  computers may be the problem!!!  Thanks to all you Legacy User 
Group  
for responding to my many questions.  

In a message dated 2/20/2009  11:44:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
geosc...@gmail.com writes:
Just added an  UNLINKED PERSON to test this for you... listed him as
born in Benton, ,  Illinois, USA -- and clicked on the GLOBE.  The GEO
LOCATIONS system  listed Benton, Franklin, Illinois, USA as proper.
I double clicked on it -  and changed the  Benton, , Illinois, USA to
Benton, Franklin, Illinois,  USA and made the SHORT name  Benton, IL
and clicked save.

It  now reads correctly - and - if I go to a map - shows it just east
of West  City near I-57 Illinois.

Seems to work fine!

Keith

On Fri,  Feb 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM,  momalo...@aol.com wrote:
 My file  in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b  1927, sent me to the Benton in
  Tennessee near Nashville.  I know there  is something weird going  on.  
I've
 looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and  will  continue to read them - 
project in
 Legacy along with photos  :-).   .  I'm wondering if there is someplace 
for me
 to  get an update for the  geo-locations?  Is it a subscription with  in
 Legacy that I might have  signed up for when I  bougt  Legacy?   I cannot 
remember.
  What do I need to  do?

 In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:57:00 A.M.  Pacific  Standard Time,
 ge...@cedarbank.me.uk writes:
  wrote
When  I tried to find Benton IL it said TN, MS,   IA, and OR, yet when
I  SEARCH for it, Benton, IL comes up in  Franklin  County. When I try to
find it in Legacy, it sent me to  TN.  Where do  I learn more  about  GEO
LOCATIONS?

 I don't really understand what you  are  saying.  Where and how were you
 trying to find Benton  other than  Searching for it?  And what do you
 mean exactly by  When I try to find  it in Legacy, it sent me to TN?

 If  you click Help or press F1 from the  Geo Locations screen it will  take
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations

2008-05-01 Thread Roxanne
Gene;I wanted to attempt this very same thing. Followed the instructions in the archives, but when I hovered over the file mentioned and clicked on "copy", nothing happened. Maybe I'm dense, but is there something else I should be doing other than just clicking on "copy"?Roxanne Baird--- On Mon, 4/28/08, Gene Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Gene Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo LocationsTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comDate: Monday, April 28, 2008, 9:44 PMJudy wrote: Will SKS please remind me how to customize the Geo locations so that  they are added with the word "County" in the actual location i.e.   Watertown, Jefferson County, New York, and
 NOT Watertown,Jefferson, New  York.  I've searched the Geo help files and can't locate it, but Iknow  it is somewhere.  Since this last update, little quirky things are going on with my Legacy  program - nothing terribly major, just irritating. This is just thelatest.  Many thanks,  JudySearching the archives producedhttp://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg07595.htmlwhich answers your question.-- Gene Y.n2kvsResearching Young, Zies, Harer  Cox withLegacy Family Treehttp://h1.ripway.com/egptech/Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe:
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations

2008-05-01 Thread Steve Stevens
paste, rename..done.


Regards,

Steve Stevens







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  Gene;
  I wanted to attempt this very same thing. Followed the instructions in
the archives, but when I hovered over the file mentioned and clicked on
copy, nothing happened. Maybe I'm dense, but is there something else I
should be doing other than just clicking on copy?

  Roxanne Baird

  --- On Mon, 4/28/08, Gene Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Gene Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 9:44 PM


Judy wrote: Will SKS please remind me how to customize the Geo locations so
that  they are added with the word County in the actual location i.e.  
Watertown, Jefferson County, New York, and
 NOT Watertown,Jefferson, New  York.  I've searched the Geo help files and
can't locate it, but Iknow  it is somewhere.  Since this last update,
little quirky things are going on with my Legacy  program - nothing
terribly major, just irritating. This is just thelatest.  Many thanks, 
JudySearching the archives
producedhttp://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg
07595.htmlwhich answers your question.-- Gene Y.n2kvsResearching Young,
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations

2008-05-01 Thread Roxanne
Steve, thank you! Red-faced and admitting I should have been able to figure it out. Sometimes the obvious escapes me.Roxanne Baird--- On Thu, 5/1/08, Steve Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Steve Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo LocationsTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comDate: Thursday, May 1, 2008, 12:56 PM

 
paste, rename..done.



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Gene;I wanted to attempt this very same thing. Followed the 
  instructions in the archives, but when I hovered over the file mentioned 
  and clicked on "copy", nothing happened. Maybe I'm dense, but is there 
  something else I should be doing other than just clicking on 
  "copy"?Roxanne Baird--- On Mon, 4/28/08, Gene Young 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: 
Gene Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo 
LocationsTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comDate: Monday, 
April 28, 2008, 9:44 PMJudy wrote: Will SKS please remind me how to customize the Geo locations so that  they are added with the word "County" in the actual location i.e.   Watertown, Jefferson County, New York, and NOT Watertown,Jefferson, New  York.  I've searched the Geo help files and can't locate it, but Iknow  it is somewhere.  Since this last update, little quirky things are going on with my Legacy  program - nothing terribly major, just irritating. This is just thelatest.  Many thanks,  JudySearching the archives producedhttp://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg07595.htmlwhich answers your question.-- Gene Y.n2kvsResearching Young, Zies, Harer  Cox withLegacy Family Treehttp://h1.ripway.com/egptech/Legacy User Group
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations

2008-04-28 Thread Gene Young

Judy wrote:
Will SKS please remind me how to customize the Geo locations so that 
they are added with the word County in the actual location  i.e.  
Watertown, Jefferson County, New York, and NOT Watertown,Jefferson, New 
York.  I've searched the Geo help files and can't locate it, but I know 
it is somewhere.


Since this last update, little quirky things are going on with my Legacy 
program - nothing terribly major, just irritating. This is just the latest.


Many thanks,

Judy


Searching the archives produced

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg07595.html

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations

2008-04-28 Thread Judy

Many thanks, Gene.  I knew I had used it before.

Judy



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Judy wrote:
Will SKS please remind me how to customize the Geo locations so that they 
are added with the word County in the actual location  i.e.  Watertown, 
Jefferson County, New York, and NOT Watertown,Jefferson, New York.  I've 
searched the Geo help files and can't locate it, but I know it is 
somewhere.


Since this last update, little quirky things are going on with my Legacy 
program - nothing terribly major, just irritating. This is just the 
latest.


Many thanks,

Judy


Searching the archives produced

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg07595.html

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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-13 Thread Jenny M Benson

Paul C. Abell wrote
I always use the country.  For the example you give, I would use Terr 
Haute, Vigo, Indiana, USA.  My reason for this is to keep everything 
consistent. Also, I use the full name of the state.


I too always use the country name and full state and county names.

My reason is that when I first started out learning about genealogy I 
read this was the correct thing to do because although I might *know* 
that a certain place was in England or know what abbreviations 
indicated, other researchers (or anyone else) might *not* and it was 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-13 Thread Paul C. Abell


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Paul C. Abell wrote
Jenny,
Not only for other researchers, but in the days before computers,
genealogists tended to be more precise with all their forms and research.
Using the country was accepted as an unwritten standard.  The nice thing is
that Legacy handles all those things I was taught as unwritten standards.
Makes you wonder if that as intentional.  I think with the internet enticing
so much more interest in genealogy, we have seen a new generation of people
that want to record all data as they see fit and cast off all previous
norms.  One of the reasons I prefer Legacy is the ability to bring the old
pre-computer day standards of doing things into the computer age.
Paul



I too always use the country name and full state and county names.

My reason is that when I first started out learning about genealogy I 
read this was the correct thing to do because although I might *know* 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-13 Thread Loran Braught
Wow, Ron.  I sure did not mean to infer that my way is the only way nor that 
anyone should try my way no matter how well tested successfully.  I do not 
add USA to my address lines merely to save space; when I have an address for 
other nations I use a three-letter ending, such as KOR or GER, but most of 
my direct line back to 1755 is USA and I assume that.  I would guess that 
you do the same for your country to save time both keying and space when 
printing.


Thanks for the warning.


Loran Ralph Braught
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(812) 535-3618
8380 N. Crestwood Pl
West Terre Haute, IN 47885

Researching mostly Braught/Braucht, Bruner, Ruggles, Riley
- Original Message - 
From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database



Loran,

There is no must about any of this. There are many of us who do not use 
the system you outline for a variety of reasons.
We may not like many commas in reports or on websites. The format may not 
suit the countries we live in (we are not all from the USA).


If our way does not suit certain facilities the so be it. We prefer not to 
use them - or find a work around and often one can.


Finally, the way we maintain our data is our choice, they way in which we 
utilise Legacy and other programs is our choice.


Ron Ferguson


_

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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:36:00 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

To start, I think I did not make sufficiently clear that I was addressing
concerns about learning the IGS Marriage record Indexing task (Shirley
Fields said you were working at it).  I did not mean to refer to anything
about Legacy.

Okay, now to your concern about the Legacy geography function.  First it 
is

crucial to input all locations as city-comma, county-comma, state-comma.
Example: Terre Haute,Vigo,IN. in all location spaces. Do not enter 
anything

more or less there. If you do not know one of the three slots
(city,county,state you must enter it this way:
Terre Haute,,IN.

If the location data is entered that way, Legacy will first ask if you are
comfortable with the spellings that you entered. Assuming yes...you click 
on

the globe at the right end of the location line to see what the US atlas
says will fill in blanks for you according the to date you have for that
location.  It would advise Knox for the county before it became Vigo, etc.
It will actually show you several lines with that information (more than I
should address here beyond saying that we will focus on this and other 
basic
functions at our first LUG meeting Jan 27.  However, I will briefly 
mention

that I urge folks to use postal office two-letters for the state to save
space in printing forms, etc. and I never use the USA if the address is 
USA.

For foreign countries use the three-letter nation acronym, such as GER for
Germany (usually the first three letters of any foreign country).

If you do click on the cross at the end of the location line you will see
the options of address, notes, or pictures.  The address means the exact
street address; notes are for such comments (consider that the major notes
option, such as the name of a birth hospital or cemetery name, etc.). The
down arrow at the end of the location line refers to seeing total location
data (lets you see if you can verify or combine duplicates, etc.). I won't
step more into master lists now nor in our first meeting.

Let me know if any of this is still not clear and helpful (may just call
535-3618?)

Sorry that I was not more clear in the beginning.  Loran

Loran Ralph Braught
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(812) 535-3618
8380 N. Crestwood Pl
West Terre Haute, IN 47885

Researching mostly Braught/Braucht, Bruner, Ruggles, Riley
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-13 Thread ronald ferguson

Hi Loran,

Actually I do put the country at the end of the full address but omit it from 
the shorter,  this is to make it clear that the Manchester I live in is the one 
with the soccer team rather than the one in the States  :).
I use the longer address when publishing. What I really do not like though is a 
row of commas in an address so I do not use place holders, nor does it cause 
me problems.

I have said many times on these pages that the great thing about Legacy is its 
flexibility which in some ways allows the output to reflect the personality of 
the author/compiler of the data. I guess that what I was saying in my rather 
blunt northern English way (and brought up in the sciences) was that the 
important factors are accuracy and clarity and the method of storing and 
compiling the information is the individual's preference.


Ron Ferguson


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 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:22:38 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
 Wow, Ron.  I sure did not mean to infer that my way is the only way nor that 
 anyone should try my way no matter how well tested successfully.  I do not 
 add USA to my address lines merely to save space; when I have an address for 
 other nations I use a three-letter ending, such as KOR or GER, but most of 
 my direct line back to 1755 is USA and I assume that.  I would guess that 
 you do the same for your country to save time both keying and space when 
 printing.
 
 Thanks for the warning.
 
 
 Loran Ralph Braught
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (812) 535-3618
 8380 N. Crestwood Pl
 West Terre Haute, IN 47885
 
 Researching mostly Braught/Braucht, Bruner, Ruggles, Riley
 - Original Message - 
 From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:34 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database
 
 
 
 Loran,
 
 There is no must about any of this. There are many of us who do not use 
 the system you outline for a variety of reasons.
 We may not like many commas in reports or on websites. The format may not 
 suit the countries we live in (we are not all from the USA).
 
 If our way does not suit certain facilities the so be it. We prefer not to 
 use them - or find a work around and often one can.
 
 Finally, the way we maintain our data is our choice, they way in which we 
 utilise Legacy and other programs is our choice.
 
 Ron Ferguson
 
 
 _
 
 For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 *Use Legacy Search - see My Blogs*
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/
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  Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:36:00 -0500
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  To start, I think I did not make sufficiently clear that I was addressing
  concerns about learning the IGS Marriage record Indexing task (Shirley
  Fields said you were working at it).  I did not mean to refer to anything
  about Legacy.
 
  Okay, now to your concern about the Legacy geography function.  First it 
  is
  crucial to input all locations as city-comma, county-comma, state-comma.
  Example: Terre Haute,Vigo,IN. in all location spaces. Do not enter 
  anything
  more or less there. If you do not know one of the three slots
  (city,county,state you must enter it this way:
  Terre Haute,,IN.
 
  If the location data is entered that way, Legacy will first ask if you are
  comfortable with the spellings that you entered. Assuming yes...you click 
  on
  the globe at the right end of the location line to see what the US atlas
  says will fill in blanks for you according the to date you have for that
  location.  It would advise Knox for the county before it became Vigo, etc.
  It will actually show you several lines with that information (more than I
  should address here beyond saying that we will focus on this and other 
  basic
  functions at our first LUG meeting Jan 27.  However, I will briefly 
  mention
  that I urge folks to use postal office two-letters for the state to save
  space in printing forms, etc. and I never use the USA if the address is 
  USA.
  For foreign countries use the three-letter nation acronym, such as GER for
  Germany (usually the first three letters of any foreign country).
 
  If you do click on the cross at the end

RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Sherry/Support
You can't edit the Geo Locations Database. 

However, I don't understand what you're referring to about dates?  There are
only locations and coordinates in the Geo Location Database and nothing in
French (except the Names of the towns and provinces)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

I just update my Geo Locations databases to include The Americas, to get
Canadian locations.  It appears that there are many dates, in French, and
a few odd looking references that might be addresses.

Anyone have any idea why these are in the locations database?  Are they safe
to remove and if so, please explain how to go about it.

Thank you 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Judy

Sherry~

ToolsGeo Location DatabaseCity  type any number, perhaps starting with 
1.  Aren't those dates, perhaps in a language other than English? 
9zenic View, , British Columbia, Canada and 30 Decembrie, , , România 
don't LOOK like places, to me, but perhaps they are?


Thanks for your response.






You can't edit the Geo Locations Database.

However, I don't understand what you're referring to about dates?  There 
are

only locations and coordinates in the Geo Location Database and nothing in
French (except the Names of the towns and provinces)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

I just update my Geo Locations databases to include The Americas, to get
Canadian locations.  It appears that there are many dates, in French, 
and

a few odd looking references that might be addresses.

Anyone have any idea why these are in the locations database?  Are they 
safe

to remove and if so, please explain how to go about it.

Thank you



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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Gene Young

Judy wrote:

Sherry~

ToolsGeo Location DatabaseCity  type any number, perhaps starting with 
1.  Aren't those dates, perhaps in a language other than English? 
9zenic View, , British Columbia, Canada and 30 Decembrie, , , 
România don't LOOK like places, to me, but perhaps they are?


Thanks for your response.






You can't edit the Geo Locations Database.

However, I don't understand what you're referring to about dates?  
There are
only locations and coordinates in the Geo Location Database and 
nothing in

French (except the Names of the towns and provinces)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous 
correspondence.

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

I just update my Geo Locations databases to include The Americas, to 
get
Canadian locations.  It appears that there are many dates, in 
French, and

a few odd looking references that might be addresses.

Anyone have any idea why these are in the locations database?  Are 
they safe

to remove and if so, please explain how to go about it.

Thank you



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They are in fact locations.  Not every country uses the same names and 
naming conventions as Anglo countries.  It may take some getting used to.


Gene Y.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Judy

Thanks, Gene.  This Anglo learns something new everyday.  ;-)

Judy


They are in fact locations.  Not every country uses the same names and 
naming conventions as Anglo countries.  It may take some getting used to.


Gene Y.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Loran Braught
To start, I think I did not make sufficiently clear that I was addressing 
concerns about learning the IGS Marriage record Indexing task (Shirley 
Fields said you were working at it).  I did not mean to refer to anything 
about Legacy.


Okay, now to your concern about the Legacy geography function.  First it is 
crucial to input all locations as city-comma, county-comma, state-comma. 
Example: Terre Haute,Vigo,IN. in all location spaces. Do not enter anything 
more or less there. If you do not know one of the three slots 
(city,county,state you must enter it this way:

Terre Haute,,IN.

If the location data is entered that way, Legacy will first ask if you are 
comfortable with the spellings that you entered. Assuming yes...you click on 
the globe at the right end of the location line to see what the US atlas 
says will fill in blanks for you according the to date you have for that 
location.  It would advise Knox for the county before it became Vigo, etc. 
It will actually show you several lines with that information (more than I 
should address here beyond saying that we will focus on this and other basic 
functions at our first LUG meeting Jan 27.  However, I will briefly mention 
that I urge folks to use postal office two-letters for the state to save 
space in printing forms, etc. and I never use the USA if the address is USA. 
For foreign countries use the three-letter nation acronym, such as GER for 
Germany (usually the first three letters of any foreign country).


If you do click on the cross at the end of the location line you will see 
the options of address, notes, or pictures.  The address means the exact 
street address; notes are for such comments (consider that the major notes 
option, such as the name of a birth hospital or cemetery name, etc.). The 
down arrow at the end of the location line refers to seeing total location 
data (lets you see if you can verify or combine duplicates, etc.). I won't 
step more into master lists now nor in our first meeting.


Let me know if any of this is still not clear and helpful (may just call 
535-3618?)


Sorry that I was not more clear in the beginning.  Loran

Loran Ralph Braught
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(812) 535-3618
8380 N. Crestwood Pl
West Terre Haute, IN 47885

Researching mostly Braught/Braucht, Bruner, Ruggles, Riley
- Original Message - 
From: Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database



You can't edit the Geo Locations Database.

However, I don't understand what you're referring to about dates?  There 
are

only locations and coordinates in the Geo Location Database and nothing in
French (except the Names of the towns and provinces)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

I just update my Geo Locations databases to include The Americas, to get
Canadian locations.  It appears that there are many dates, in French, 
and

a few odd looking references that might be addresses.

Anyone have any idea why these are in the locations database?  Are they 
safe

to remove and if so, please explain how to go about it.

Thank you



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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Paul C. Abell
Loran,
I always use the country.  For the example you give, I would use Terr Haute,
Vigo, Indiana, USA.  My reason for this is to keep everything consistent.
Also, I use the full name of the state.  I was directed to do it this way
years ago by a genealogist that would be well over 100 if she were still
alive.  She was very meticulous in how the data was kept.  I think I learned
from a perfectionist.  Sometimes, I think it ridiculous, but I still do it
all the way I was taught and this was before computers.
Anyway, I like everything to be consistent.  If using the country for one
country and not another is, to me, inconsistent.  
Just another humble opinion.  There are so many variations in the way people
do things.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loran
Braught
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

To start, I think I did not make sufficiently clear that I was addressing 
concerns about learning the IGS Marriage record Indexing task (Shirley 
Fields said you were working at it).  I did not mean to refer to anything 
about Legacy.

Okay, now to your concern about the Legacy geography function.  First it is 
crucial to input all locations as city-comma, county-comma, state-comma. 
Example: Terre Haute,Vigo,IN. in all location spaces. Do not enter anything 
more or less there. If you do not know one of the three slots 
(city,county,state you must enter it this way:
Terre Haute,,IN.


Loran Ralph Braught
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(812) 535-3618
8380 N. Crestwood Pl
West Terre Haute, IN 47885




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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread ronald ferguson

Loran,

There is no must about any of this. There are many of us who do not use the 
system you outline for a variety of reasons.
We may not like many commas in reports or on websites. The format may not suit 
the countries we live in (we are not all from the USA).

If our way does not suit certain facilities the so be it. We prefer not to use 
them - or find a work around and often one can.

Finally, the way we maintain our data is our choice, they way in which we 
utilise Legacy and other programs is our choice.

Ron Ferguson


_

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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
*Use Legacy Search - see My Blogs*
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/
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 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:36:00 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
 To start, I think I did not make sufficiently clear that I was addressing 
 concerns about learning the IGS Marriage record Indexing task (Shirley 
 Fields said you were working at it).  I did not mean to refer to anything 
 about Legacy.
 
 Okay, now to your concern about the Legacy geography function.  First it is 
 crucial to input all locations as city-comma, county-comma, state-comma. 
 Example: Terre Haute,Vigo,IN. in all location spaces. Do not enter anything 
 more or less there. If you do not know one of the three slots 
 (city,county,state you must enter it this way:
 Terre Haute,,IN.
 
 If the location data is entered that way, Legacy will first ask if you are 
 comfortable with the spellings that you entered. Assuming yes...you click on 
 the globe at the right end of the location line to see what the US atlas 
 says will fill in blanks for you according the to date you have for that 
 location.  It would advise Knox for the county before it became Vigo, etc. 
 It will actually show you several lines with that information (more than I 
 should address here beyond saying that we will focus on this and other basic 
 functions at our first LUG meeting Jan 27.  However, I will briefly mention 
 that I urge folks to use postal office two-letters for the state to save 
 space in printing forms, etc. and I never use the USA if the address is USA. 
 For foreign countries use the three-letter nation acronym, such as GER for 
 Germany (usually the first three letters of any foreign country).
 
 If you do click on the cross at the end of the location line you will see 
 the options of address, notes, or pictures.  The address means the exact 
 street address; notes are for such comments (consider that the major notes 
 option, such as the name of a birth hospital or cemetery name, etc.). The 
 down arrow at the end of the location line refers to seeing total location 
 data (lets you see if you can verify or combine duplicates, etc.). I won't 
 step more into master lists now nor in our first meeting.
 
 Let me know if any of this is still not clear and helpful (may just call 
 535-3618?)
 
 Sorry that I was not more clear in the beginning.  Loran
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Sherry/Support
Judy,

I did a google for 1 (Prim) Decembrie Romania and 23 August, Vaslui, Romania
and guess what? Those *are* city names!

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RO/0/Prim_Decembrie.html 
http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RO/38/Douazeci_si_Trei_August.html


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Sherry~

ToolsGeo Location DatabaseCity  type any number, perhaps starting with
1.  Aren't those dates, perhaps in a language other than English? 
9zenic View, , British Columbia, Canada and 30 Decembrie, , , România 
don't LOOK like places, to me, but perhaps they are?

Thanks for your response.





 You can't edit the Geo Locations Database.

 However, I don't understand what you're referring to about dates?  
 There are only locations and coordinates in the Geo Location Database 
 and nothing in French (except the Names of the towns and provinces)

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

 I just update my Geo Locations databases to include The Americas, to 
 get Canadian locations.  It appears that there are many dates, in 
 French, and a few odd looking references that might be addresses.

 Anyone have any idea why these are in the locations database?  Are 
 they safe to remove and if so, please explain how to go about it.

 Thank you



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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Jennifer Crockett
We also have an odd one in Australia: 1770, Queensland. It is not
usually spelled out as Seventeen Seventy.

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/AS/4/Seventeen_Seventy.html

Jennifer




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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

Judy,

I did a google for 1 (Prim) Decembrie Romania and 23 August, Vaslui,
Romania
and guess what? Those *are* city names!

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RO/0/Prim_Decembrie.html 
http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RO/38/Douazeci_si_Trei_August.html






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Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

2007-01-12 Thread Judy

Sherry~


LOL There is even a 9zenic View!!  Next time I'll Google first.

http://www.travelpost.com/NA/Canada/British_Columbia/9zenic_View/map/5381174


Thanks,

Judy


I did a google for 1 (Prim) Decembrie Romania and 23 August, Vaslui, Romania
and guess what? Those *are* city names!

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RO/0/Prim_Decembrie.html
http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RO/38/Douazeci_si_Trei_August.html


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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

Sherry~

ToolsGeo Location DatabaseCity  type any number, perhaps starting with
1.  Aren't those dates, perhaps in a language other than English?
9zenic View, , British Columbia, Canada and 30 Decembrie, , , România
don't LOOK like places, to me, but perhaps they are?

Thanks for your response.






You can't edit the Geo Locations Database.

However, I don't understand what you're referring to about dates?
There are only locations and coordinates in the Geo Location Database
and nothing in French (except the Names of the towns and provinces)

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Thanks.


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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Geo Locations Database

I just update my Geo Locations databases to include The Americas, to
get Canadian locations.  It appears that there are many dates, in
French, and a few odd looking references that might be addresses.

Anyone have any idea why these are in the locations database?  Are
they safe to remove and if so, please explain how to go about it.

Thank you



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Re: [LegacyUG] GEO Locations: Proper state entry?

2006-08-12 Thread Leon Chapman

Normally you would enter the following:
,, Colorado, USA

You use the commas to separte the fields - if you have no information
for the field, leave it blank.

The format is normally:
City, County, State, Country

If you know only 2 of them, here would be some examples:

Perry,,Oklahoma, USA  -- you don't know county, but Geo could fill it
in for you.
, Tulsa Co, Oklahoma, USA  -- You don't know the city
,,,USA -- the only information you have is Country

In reports options, you can have it remove all the leading ,s so
they do not show up.

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On 8/12/06, Robert Carneal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I hope I do not start a combative thread on what's best but my query is
aimed at those of use with GEO files.



Suppose you have an ancestor in Colorado. You do not know the county, nor
know the town/city where the ancestor died. Given that GEO uses four columns
of data for locations, how are you entering this?



Are you saying Colorado, Colorado, Colorado, USA ?  I think that is a little
misleading, because GEO tries to use Colorado as a city, and also as a
state. What about  , , Colorado, USA ? Does that work for you? GEO has a
problem with simply Colorado, USA but I could ignore the message.



Thank you.



Robert

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