Re: [LegacyUG] Notes vs Events

2008-10-13 Thread Elizabeth Richardson

Sure, there is a Notes tab on every fact/event.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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From: Tish

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes vs Events


If one uses Events, can one still copy and paste interesting bits into that 
as one can do with notes?


tish




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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Paul Croteau
Bob:  For what it's worth, I like to enter any confirmations the person existed 
under events, which would include a biography.  I enjoy the feature of having a 
date, or a span of time, to reflect the information and source details.

I use the general and research notes more to remind me of what I have done or a 
Possible source for that person.  I do use the Medical notes to describe the 
persons death, or disease they died from.

Hope this helps...

Paul
www.pdcroteau.com

 


- Original Message 
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Legacy 
> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:04:37 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
> 
> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an 
> event 
> and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
> 
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under 
> the 
> notes or make it an event?  another - If entering 1860 census data showing 
> Uncle 
> Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
> 
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : 
> (1)  
> If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the 
> persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can get rather lengthy plus would 
> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show 
> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes 
> a 
> short  cryptic entry after the name with a footnote.  I do note that the 
> entire 
> data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material,  
> providing 
> that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting  
> 'Add 
> this text to the source citation on reports' ).
> 
> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some 
> insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Jenny M Benson

Two things here which I don't quite understand.

Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative 
: (1)  If I enter data as a note, the information is located 
immediately under the persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can 
get rather lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to 
the narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information;


Why does the sourcing information need to be added to the narrative?  If 
you are thinking of having several pieces of data from different sources 
in the Notes, you could just add a brief pointer to which particular 
Source of several cited relates to that particular section.


OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short  cryptic entry 
after the name with a footnote.


Why does the data become "a short cryptic entry"? - unless that is the 
way you have entered it.  You can put your short cryptic entry in the 
Event Description field and then expand as much as you like in the Event 
Notes.  The footnote then directs the reader to the Source Citation.  If 
you have included all the text (or similar detail) of the Source in the 
Event Notes you don't need to repeat it as part of the Source Citation 
(although you may wish to do so and not necessarily have it print on 
reports where it would be duplication.)

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Linda McCauley
My preference is to use Events so I can attach photos and/or documents
specific to the event or time frame. I intend to eventually use Legacy
created web pages to update my web site (once I get everything setup)
and this will allow photos and documents to be mixed with text
throughout a person's page. Another advantage to Events over Notes is
that you can see at a glance what you have (or what you are missing)
for a person.

Linda



On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:04 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an 
> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
>
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under 
> the notes or make it an event?  another - If entering 1860 census data 
> showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
>
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) 
>  If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the 
> persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can get rather lengthy plus would 
> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show 
> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes 
> a short  cryptic entry after the name with a footnote.  I do note that the 
> entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material,  
> providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., 
> selecting  'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ).
>
> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some 
> insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
>
> Bob
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread leo macdonald


Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general information 
like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I will place it 
in the person's notes.
General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I add 
this to the birth notes.
General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents home.., 
I add this to the baptism notes.
The same for death and burial information.
When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth announcement, 
etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as events.
Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the 
description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I would 
enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it written 
or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a picture, 
then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes section or when 
possible I will just copy and paste the article into the notes section of the 
event.
As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new 
information to each location that I enter new information into.
Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you 
are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you locate 
the one that works best for you.
Leo  

> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
> 
> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an 
> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
> 
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under 
> the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing 
> Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
> 
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) 
> If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the 
> persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would 
> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show 
> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes 
> a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the 
> entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, 
> providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., 
> selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ).
> 
> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some 
> insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Mary Figgins
It seems to be that the biography would be neither note nor event but a source. 
 It is what is within the biography that would go into an event or note.  I 
would put most of the information in as an event.  Notes I use for information 
I'm not sure about or general information about a person.  I note the source 
use name and/or file id of the source and then the note.

I would put the 1860 census as an event.  As someone mentioned in another 
thread I would use the type of event as Census, use the census itself as a 
source and make any notes in the event note field.

Mary Beth Figgins

leo macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general information 
like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I will place it 
in the person's notes.
General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I add 
this to the birth notes.
General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents home.., 
I add this to the baptism notes.
The same for death and burial information.
When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth announcement, 
etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as events.
Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the 
description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I would 
enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it written 
or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a picture, 
then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes section or when 
possible I will just copy and paste the article into the notes section of the 
event.
As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new 
information to each location that I enter new information into.
Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you 
are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you locate 
the one that works best for you.
Leo  

> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
> 
> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an 
> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
> 
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under 
> the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing 
> Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
> 
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) 
> If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the 
> persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would 
> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show 
> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes 
> a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the 
> entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, 
> providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., 
> selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ).
> 
> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some 
> insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Wynthner
I can't see a biography as an event or as a note. I'd make the biography a 
source (relative A being the source of the source) and then add the events in 
the biography with whatever additional notes were needed.




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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
> To: "Legacy" 
> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 11:04 AM
> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data
> as a note or an event and would like some views on where
> folks place specific data .
> 
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I
> enter it under the notes or make it an event?  another - If
> entering 1860 census data showing Uncle Joe's family and
> those living in his household - note or event?
> 
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report -
> Descendant Narrative : (1)  If I enter data as a note, the
> information is located immediately under the persons name as
> a flowing narrative,  which can get rather lengthy plus
> would require adding my sourcing information to the
> narrative if I wanted to show where I got the information;
> OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes a short 
> cryptic entry after the name with a footnote.  I do note
> that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together
> with the sourcing material,  providing that feature is
> elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 
> 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ).
> 
> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I
> would appreciate some insight from others on how they use
> the notes and events feature.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Janis L Gilmore
I agree with Paul on this. It also offers the added benefit of being able to
move the information up or down in the events - to appear first or last, or
chronologically.

Janis


On 12/4/08 6:19 AM, "Paul Croteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob:  For what it's worth, I like to enter any confirmations the person
> existed under events, which would include a biography.  I enjoy the feature of
> having a date, or a span of time, to reflect the information and source
> details.
> 
> I use the general and research notes more to remind me of what I have done or
> a Possible source for that person.  I do use the Medical notes to describe the
> persons death, or disease they died from.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Paul
> www.pdcroteau.com
> 
>  
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
>> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Legacy 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:04:37 AM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
>> 
>> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an
>> event 
>> and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
>> 
>> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under
>> the 
>> notes or make it an event?  another - If entering 1860 census data showing
>> Uncle 
>> Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
>> 
>> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative :
>> (1)  
>> If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the
>> persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can get rather lengthy plus would
>> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show
>> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes
>> a 
>> short  cryptic entry after the name with a footnote.  I do note that the
>> entire 
>> data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, 
>> providing 
>> that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting 
>> 'Add 
>> this text to the source citation on reports' ).
>> 
>> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some
>> insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Elizabeth Richardson

I add notes to events.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Legacy" 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:04 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events


I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an 
event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .


For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under 
the notes or make it an event?  another - If entering 1860 census data 
showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or 
event?


Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : 
(1)  If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately 
under the persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can get rather 
lengthy plus would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative 
if I wanted to show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an 
event, the data becomes a short  cryptic entry after the name with a 
footnote.  I do note that the entire data can appear in the footnote, 
together with the sourcing material,  providing that feature is elected 
when setting up the source detail (i.e., selecting  'Add this text to the 
source citation on reports' ).


It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate 
some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.


Bob





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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Janis L Gilmore
However, Mary Beth, sometimes it is nice to include a biography, as a whole,
within a report, for which placement in an event is nice. It would, of
course, also be the source for that event.

Janis


On 12/4/08 9:34 AM, "Mary Figgins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It seems to be that the biography would be neither note nor event but a
> source.  It is what is within the biography that would go into an event or
> note.  I would put most of the information in as an event.  Notes I use for
> information I'm not sure about or general information about a person.  I note
> the source use name and/or file id of the source and then the note.
> 
> I would put the 1860 census as an event.  As someone mentioned in another
> thread I would use the type of event as Census, use the census itself as a
> source and make any notes in the event note field.
> 
> Mary Beth Figgins
> 
> leo macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general
>> information like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I
>> will place it in the person's notes.
>> General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I
>> add this to the birth notes.
>> General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents
>> home.., I add this to the baptism notes.
>> The same for death and burial information.
>> When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth
>> announcement, etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as
>> events.
>> Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the
>> description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I
>> would enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it
>> written or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a
>> picture, then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes
>> section or when possible I will just copy and paste the article into the
>> notes section of the event.
>> As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new
>> information to each location that I enter new information into.
>> Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you
>> are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you
>> locate the one that works best for you.
>> Leo  
>> 
>>> > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500
>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
>>> > 
>>> > I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an
>>> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
>>> > 
>>> > For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under
>>> the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data
>>> showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or
>>> event?
>>> > 
>>> > Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative :
>>> (1) If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under
>>> the persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus
>>> would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to
>>> show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data
>>> becomes a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that
>>> the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing
>>> material, providing that feature is elected when setting up the source
>>> detail (i.e., selecting 'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ).
>>> > 
>>> > It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate
>>> some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
>>> > 
>>> > Bob
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit
>>> http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. ***
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Paul Croteau
Exactly Janis... 

Another example: I add an event Obituary / Biography for a relative and use 
that same Obituary / Biography as a source for other details that reflect the 
family or the relative directly.  I concur that when I print a report, the 
Obituary is displayed with the related person, and again in the source 
information... if I chose to release my sources.

That is what I like about Legacy, you have many choices to the end user, on how 
you wish to display or record information. All methods are correct - just your 
personal preference.  I used to simply record the census date and place in an 
event, now I'm going back and including as much data in the census event 
"notes".  I've been told that "my father never used that surname" - but when I 
show them the birth certificate or military record with that surname spelling, 
it makes a difference. (g)

I had one person deny their parents every had a child name "Mary" for example.  
Now with the census event notes, I can show them, their parents did in fact 
have a child that died early in age named Mary.

Paul

 




From: Janis L Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:03:18 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

However, Mary Beth, sometimes it is nice to include a biography, as a whole, 
within a report, for which placement in an event is nice. It would, of course, 
also be the source for that event.

Janis


On 12/4/08 9:34 AM, "Mary Figgins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It seems to be that the biography would be neither note nor event but a source. 
 It is what is within the biography that would go into an event or note.  I 
would put most of the information in as an event.  Notes I use for information 
I'm not sure about or general information about a person.  I note the source 
use name and/or file id of the source and then the note.

I would put the 1860 census as an event.  As someone mentioned in another 
thread I would use the type of event as Census, use the census itself as a 
source and make any notes in the event note field.

Mary Beth Figgins

leo macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi Bob, when I locate information on a person that is just general information 
like the places where the person has lived, where they worked, I will place it 
in the person's notes.
General information about their birth, like time of birth, weight, etc., I add 
this to the birth notes.
General information about their baptism, like baptized at their parents home.., 
I add this to the baptism notes.
The same for death and burial information.
When I locate something like a biography, 50th. anniversary,birth announcement, 
etc., that are located in books or newspapers, I add these as events.
Using the biography as an example, I would call the event a Biography, in the 
description I would enter the location where it was found, in the date I would 
enter the date it was written or published,the place would be where it written 
or published. I would then scan the article and attach the scan as a picture, 
then I would either transcribe the article into the event notes section or when 
possible I will just copy and paste the article into the notes section of the 
event.
As well I have learned the hard way to always add the source of the new 
information to each location that I enter new information into.
Just about everyone will enter things a little differently, remember that you 
are creating your family tree, experiment with several methods until you locate 
the one that works best for you.
Leo  

> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events
> 
> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an 
> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
> 
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under 
> the notes or make it an event? another - If entering 1860 census data showing 
> Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
> 
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1) 
> If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the 
> persons name as a flowing narrative, which can get rather lengthy plus would 
> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show 
> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes 
> a short cryptic entry after the name with a footnote. I do note that the 
> entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material, 
> providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e., 
> selecting 'Add this text to the source 

Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Bruce Jones
Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility Legacy
offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then use
various options to only include what we want.

For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in the
General Notes.
- One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy
brackets) and just get the information in the Events.
- Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all
Event Notes.
This can be done a number of ways:
- Remove the "[notes]" from the Event sentence (requires more effort than
the other methods below)
- Make the event private and not including private Events
- Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes

There are very likely other ways to accomplish this.

It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so we
need to be sure we want it.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:04 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an
> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
>
> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under
> the notes or make it an event?  another - If entering 1860 census data
> showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or
> event?
>
> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative :
> (1)  If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under
> the persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can get rather lengthy plus
> would require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to
> show where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data
> becomes a short  cryptic entry after the name with a footnote.  I do note
> that the entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing
> material,  providing that feature is elected when setting up the source
> detail (i.e., selecting  'Add this text to the source citation on reports'
> ).
>
> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate
> some insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Janis L Gilmore
That is a good workable idea (most of Geoff¹s are). (-:

However, something in me rebels against the ³messiness² of throwing
something into general notes. I like to enter each piece of data into its
own little cell. Maybe because I was on TMG prior to Legacy.

I would, in fact, like to see a somewhat more atomic approach within Legacy.
(I just couldn¹t live with the crude TMG graphics. They drove me crazy. Call
me superficial. )

Janis


On 12/4/08 2:33 PM, "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility Legacy
> offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then use various
> options to only include what we want.
> 
> For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in the
> General Notes.  
> - One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy
> brackets) and just get the information in the Events.
> - Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all
> Event Notes.
> This can be done a number of ways:
> - Remove the "[notes]" from the Event sentence (requires more effort than the
> other methods below)
> - Make the event private and not including private Events
> - Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes
> 
> There are very likely other ways to accomplish this.
> 
> It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so we
> need to be sure we want it.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:04 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm having some personal conflict in whether to add data as a note or an
>> event and would like some views on where folks place specific data .
>> 
>> For example - I have a biography from relative A - should I enter it under
>> the notes or make it an event?  another - If entering 1860 census data
>> showing Uncle Joe's family and those living in his household - note or event?
>> 
>> Some observations when preparing a 'book' report - Descendant Narrative : (1)
>> If I enter data as a note, the information is located immediately under the
>> persons name as a flowing narrative,  which can get rather lengthy plus would
>> require adding my sourcing information to the narrative if I wanted to show
>> where I got the information; OR (2) if entered as an event, the data becomes
>> a short  cryptic entry after the name with a footnote.  I do note that the
>> entire data can appear in the footnote, together with the sourcing material,
>> providing that feature is elected when setting up the source detail (i.e.,
>> selecting  'Add this text to the source citation on reports' ).
>> 
>> It may be that personal preference dictates this, but I would appreciate some
>> insight from others on how they use the notes and events feature.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Bruce Jones
Janis,
What Geoff was specifically suggesting to me, is putting information in both
Event Notes and Source Text.  I am still considering that option.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Janis L Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  That is a good workable idea (most of Geoff's are). (-:
>
> However, something in me rebels against the "messiness" of throwing
> something into general notes. I like to enter each piece of data into its
> own little cell. Maybe because I was on TMG prior to Legacy.
>
> I would, in fact, like to see a somewhat more atomic approach within
> Legacy. (I just couldn't live with the crude TMG graphics. They drove me
> crazy. Call me superficial. )
>
> Janis
>
>
> On 12/4/08 2:33 PM, "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility
> Legacy offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then
> use various options to only include what we want.
>
> For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in
> the General Notes.
> - One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy
> brackets) and just get the information in the Events.
> - Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all
> Event Notes.
> This can be done a number of ways:
> - Remove the "[notes]" from the Event sentence (requires more effort than
> the other methods below)
> - Make the event private and not including private Events
> - Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes
>
> There are very likely other ways to accomplish this.
>
> It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so
> we need to be sure we want it.
>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Janis L Gilmore
I understood that, and I understand the flexibility that it would offer.
It¹s a good idea.

For me, however, I simply stopped using the General notes some time ago,
except as a convenient occasional ³parking spot² for some bit of info I was
in the active stages of investigating.

Janis


On 12/4/08 3:35 PM, "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What Geoff was specifically suggesting to me, is putting information in both
> Event Notes and Source Text.  I am still considering that option.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Ron Bernier
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thu Dec 04 15:35:12 2008
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

Janis,
What Geoff was specifically suggesting to me, is putting information in both 
Event Notes and Source Text.  I am still considering that option.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Janis L Gilmore <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
That is a good workable idea (most of Geoff's are). (-:

However, something in me rebels against the "messiness" of throwing something 
into general notes. I like to enter each piece of data into its own little 
cell. Maybe because I was on TMG prior to Legacy.

I would, in fact, like to see a somewhat more atomic approach within Legacy. (I 
just couldn't live with the crude TMG graphics. They drove me crazy. Call me 
superficial. )

Janis



On 12/4/08 2:33 PM, "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
wrote:

Let me share an idea I got from Geoff Rasmussen. With the flexibility Legacy 
offers, we can consider entering data in more than one place, then use various 
options to only include what we want.

For example, the biography data could be entered both as an event AND in the 
General Notes.
- One time you could exclude the General Notes (or the portion in privacy 
brackets) and just get the information in the Events.
- Another time you could include the General Notes but exclude one or all Event 
Notes.
This can be done a number of ways:
- Remove the "[notes]" from the Event sentence (requires more effort than the 
other methods below)
- Make the event private and not including private Events
- Put the Event Notes in privacy brackets and not include private notes

There are very likely other ways to accomplish this.

It does require more time in entering the data to get this flexibility so we 
need to be sure we want it.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events

2008-12-04 Thread Phil Warn

Which is worse,

Your short attachments from your blackberry and that which gets up your nose?

Horns of a dilemma?

Phil

t 00:05 05/12/2008, Ron Bernier wrote:

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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

2009-07-15 Thread MJMethod
Bob,
This kind of option has been touched on before - basically "personal  
preference".
 
I am normally a "lumper". Obituaries go into Source Detail Text (if  
transcribed) or Source Detail Multimedia. I don't expect to reproduce them for  
everyone, unless there is something unusual, noteworthy, or well-phrased. If 
so,  I accept the redundancy of copying or extracting what I need into Death 
Notes or  General Notes or elsewhere.

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 7/15/2009 7:22:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
s...@cox.net writes:

A few  days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in 
version 97 -  it turns out there is no problem - just me

Subject topic - What are  the recommendations or group thoughts on where to 
put Obituary text?  I  have placed most of them in the event area and 
entered the obitiuary/writeup  into the text/comments block.  When I prepare a 
Book/Narrative, these  appear in the end notes.  Now I am wondering if placing 
them in the  General notes would be more appropriate.  When reading a book, 
the  general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a 
concise  entry showing the idata is at the end.  

In accounting there are'  Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is 
the 'Generally Accepted  Genealogical Entry' for such items.  Or - is it a 
personal  preference?

Bob






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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

2009-07-15 Thread Robert Carneal USA
Well, I made a custom event for obituaries. There is general one 
already, but mine allows me to include everything from an obit, pall 
bearers (they could be family members and relatives), speakers, 
singers, etc. In addition I also include funeral home information- 
what if the deceased is related to someone at the funeral home? So I 
made a custom event for everything I wanted to keep from an obit, and 
so far, it works well for me.


Robert


At 2009-07-15  06:17 PM, you wrote:
A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes 
in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me


Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on 
where to put Obituary text?  I have placed most of them in the event 
area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments 
block.  When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end 
notes.  Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes 
would be more appropriate.  When reading a book, the general notes 
appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry 
showing the idata is at the end.


In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - 
so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such 
items.  Or - is it a personal preference?


Bob




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RE: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

2009-07-15 Thread ronald ferguson

Bob,
 
I have never pretended to have sufficient skills to write a book, although I'm 
reasonably OK at accountancy. The difference being that the former demands some 
artistic ability whereas the latter is a series of lists. It follows, therefore 
that the answer must be personal choice.
 
Now back to my web pages ;-)



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> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:17:57 -0400
> From: s...@cox.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
>
> A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in 
> version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me
>
> Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to 
> put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered 
> the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a 
> Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing 
> them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the 
> general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise 
> entry showing the idata is at the end.
>
> In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 
> 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal 
> preference?
>
> Bob
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

2009-07-16 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Thanks Ron - I enjoyed your take on writing vs accountancy. 
 <>


Thank goodness Legacy has the book features automated, I too would  
have trouble writing a book from scratch.


Bob


On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:04 PM, ronald ferguson wrote:



Bob,

I have never pretended to have sufficient skills to write a book,  
although I'm reasonably OK at accountancy. The difference being that  
the former demands some artistic ability whereas the latter is a  
series of lists. It follows, therefore that the answer must be  
personal choice.


Now back to my web pages ;-)



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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:17:57 -0400
From: s...@cox.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes  
in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me


Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on  
where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event  
area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments  
block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end  
notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes  
would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes  
appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry  
showing the idata is at the end.


In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' -  
so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items.  
Or - is it a personal preference?


Bob



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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

2009-07-17 Thread Paula Ryburn

Bob,
I haven't done many Obituaries, but I generally enter it as a Source, adding 
either a scanned image of the Obit. or typing in the text of the Obit. in the 
Text field (choosing typically not to print it).

Then I like to put the information from the Obituary in as Events and/or Notes 
on the people involved, or just use the Obit. as a source for the parents' or 
siblings' names.  You might enter the pallbearer information on the 
individual(s) serving and/or enter them as a list in the Burial Notes.  (I've 
also seen on this list that people set up "Funeral" events.)

In short, I rarely print the Obituary itself in the book reports I use.
Hope this helps.
--Paula

> 
> 
> > 
> > Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group
> thoughts on where to put Obituary text?  I have placed
> most of them in the event area and entered the
> obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block.  When I
> prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end
> notes.  Now I am wondering if placing them in the
> General notes would be more appropriate.  When reading
> a book, the general notes appear right below the individual
> in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the
> end.
> > 
> > In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting
> Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical
> Entry' for such items.  Or - is it a personal
> preference?
> > 
> > Bob




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Re: [LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text

2009-07-18 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Paula - Thanks for the info - I pretty much am doing the same as you  
indicate - I am concerned that when looking at a book report, the data  
would appear with the individual below their name if treated as a note  
and would be tied to the person when reading the data, but it might  
have less of an impact if treated as an event either at the end of the  
book or other places in the final book.  I guess it has become a  
'personal preference' insofar as replies I've read.


Bob


On Jul 17, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:



Bob,
I haven't done many Obituaries, but I generally enter it as a  
Source, adding either a scanned image of the Obit. or typing in the  
text of the Obit. in the Text field (choosing typically not to print  
it).


Then I like to put the information from the Obituary in as Events  
and/or Notes on the people involved, or just use the Obit. as a  
source for the parents' or siblings' names.  You might enter the  
pallbearer information on the individual(s) serving and/or enter  
them as a list in the Burial Notes.  (I've also seen on this list  
that people set up "Funeral" events.)


In short, I rarely print the Obituary itself in the book reports I  
use.

Hope this helps.
--Paula






Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group

thoughts on where to put Obituary text?  I have placed
most of them in the event area and entered the
obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block.  When I
prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end
notes.  Now I am wondering if placing them in the
General notes would be more appropriate.  When reading
a book, the general notes appear right below the individual
in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the
end.


In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting

Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical
Entry' for such items.  Or - is it a personal
preference?


Bob





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