Re: [LegacyUG] Remove Source Citations

2017-05-08 Thread Kris

Hi, Cathy --

Thanks for all the great info.

I'm actually doing the research again, but many of my earlier online 
sources are no longer available.  So far, I've had good luck, but I 
don't want to trash all the work I've already done, just in case.


Kris

On 5/8/2017 7:16 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Kris,
You can delete Sources with their Source Citations without doing it one
at a time BUT that deletes the Master Source as well.
What you could do is to edit the Master Source slightly - just changing
the Source List Name is enough - and you may want to change that anyway
as that's your finding aid for your Master Sources so the name needs to
follow a pattern you set. eg I start with Source type eg Census; Cem; PR
for Parish Register ...

When you edit a Master Source and click Save you get the option to apply
the change to all instances of the Master Source OR to a new copy.
Choose the new copy option.
Then return to highlight the original in the Master Source list and
click Options - Delete.
It will say it can't be deleted - do you want to see who uses it.
Say yes and on that next screen is a delete anyway button. So that would
achieve what I think you say you want. Note that the people using it now
have no indication that this source is relevant. So if that's not what
you meant, then you need to do them one at a time.

But if your Master Source is fine, then why not just edit the Source
Detail?

Sounds like you are actually doing a Go-Over seeing you want to keep
things. So don't forget to set tags to say you've "gone over" that
person or if you've switched to Legacy 9 you could use a number of
hashtags to describe what you've checked.

I'm slowly doing a Go-Over and tag on 9 when I've finished checking
sources and doing any further research I want to do at the moment. To
keep focussed, I stick to a particular branch. I've just completed one I
started in January. That one was mainly in South Australia. I'm looking
forward to starting another mainly in England to take advantage
particularly of Somerset Parish Registers that are now online. As part
of my Go-Over I'm checking all transcriptions I've used where possible.

Cathy

Kris wrote:


I'm doing my version of the "Genealogy Do-Over" and want to retain my
Master Sources but remove all the source citations from individuals
and events.

I did the export/import GEDCOM but lost all the Master Sources in the
process. I've also experimented with the search list -- but it wants
confirmation for each and every delete. I'll be dead before that gets
done.

I'm sure the export/import GEDCOM is the way to go, but I'm not sure
which items to remove from the export.

Thanks!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Citations, sources, etc.

2017-05-08 Thread Martha Graham

Good Evening,
At the risk of upsetting folks who believe in the E Showen Mills 
Theory[sorry if her name is wrong] I put all of my citations right at 
the bottom of the data in any event or note.
That way the citation stays with the data, no matter where it goes - 
into a gedcom or a pdf to send off to a fellow researcher.


This also eliminates having to think about format. If I cut and paste 
the Source Citation right from the webpage, or type the title of a book 
[adding the page # of course] or an email with a date and addy, it is 
done and I can move on to doing real research and not fret about what it 
looks like. And, anyone looking at my work can see at a glance where the 
data came from.


For Instance: the 1850 Census for this family
Crosley, Thomas C Age 42, B: Ohio, Physician
Crosley, E M Age 42, B: Virginia [Cannot read or write]
Crosley, Susan Age 22, B: Indiana
Crosley, James Age 19, B: Indiana, Farmer
Crosley, M T Age 17, B: Indiana
Crosley, John Age 14, B: Indiana
Crosley, N Age 12, B: Indiana
Crosley, Bennet Age 10, B: Indiana
Crosley, A M Age 7, B: Indiana
Crosley, D Age 4, B: Indiana
Crosley, S Age 2, B: Indiana

Image Source: Year: 1850; Census Place: District 56, Mercer, Missouri; 
Roll: M432_406; Page: 374; Image: 233


Now, Census records are all over the place, so lately I am not including 
a website url
Heck, you can even download a whole roll of digitized census film from 
the Archive.org site.


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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Ian Thomas
If a computer has 2 screens, it is often the fault of the screen-switching 
software that something doesn't fit or disappears  - which not always under 
Windows ' complete control.



In Windows 10, you have extra facilities (go to Settings, and use search)  but 
the most useful and neglected is the small icon on your Task Bar (mine is at 
bottom, left - to the right of Cortanas's microphone).  It's called the Task 
View - it looks like a screen.

[cid:image001.png@01D2C8C5.53FF2BB0]

[ above: a 10Kb image - guaranteed no malware. If your emails are set to plain 
text, this will be an attachment, not within the email ]

This allows you to view all windows (term meaning the displaying area for each 
programme, or part' of a programme) and by clicking on one of those, it will 
have 'focus'.

That's a hint worth trying - I often have a great number of windows open, 
including multiple web pages in one or several browsers, and it removes a lot 
of confusion to be able to see what's where on my (single) screen.



Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia



-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert57P_gmail
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:25 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen



Alt-Tab only cycles through open APPLICATIONS (programs) Alt-ESC will not only 
cycle through open applications, but will also cycle through open CHILD windows.



Unfortunately (usually) neither will help you find the window if it is off 
screen.



If you can get focus to the child window, try WINDOW-RIGHT ARROW (or 
WINDOW-LEFT ARROW).  Keep hitting same key combo until the child shows up on 
the desired screen.  WINDOW-ARROW key takes the window that is in focus, and 
moves it to the left edge of its current monitor (if you use left), then to the 
right edge of the next monitor to the left, then to the center of that next 
monitor, then to the left edge of that monitor,

then right edge of 3rd monitor, etc, etc, etc.   The good thing about

this - it WRAPS - so when it gets to the left edge of the left most monitor it 
will circle around the right edge of the right most monitor, then center of the 
right most monitor, etc.  Eventually it should end up being visible.



With Windows 7 (my Windows 10 machine is doing a backup, so I can't test

it) - I tried having a Legacy child window open, then made some other program 
the active window.  Then, by clicking on the Legacy icon on the task bar, the 
CHILD became active - and thus I was able to move the child window around using 
the WINDOW-ARROW method.  In other words, I did NOT need to click on the child 
to make it active - just clicking on the Legacy icon made the child active.



You can also try right clicking on the task bar and select CASCADE WINDOWS or 
on SHOW WINDOWS STACKED - but I'm not sure if this will bring a CHILD window 
back to your main monitor.  Worth a try though.



I have some programs that, no matter WHERE I last closed them, they INSIST on 
opening on some other monitor the next time.  It can get real OLD real FAST - 
but I've learned to just deal with it.



btw - there is another method that works for a PROGRAM window that is "lost", 
but it apparently does not work for a CHILD window that is

lost:  SHIFT-Right click on the icon on the task bar, select RESTORE (if 
RESTORE is available - if it is gray, move on to next step).  Then SHIFT-Right 
click on the icon again and select MOVE (and let go of the SHIFT-Right-click).  
Then hold down either the right or the left arrow to move the window.  Of 
course it helps if you have a good idea if the window is "lost" to the left or 
right. (If you have good eyes, you can sometimes tell this by first watching 
the button on the task bar as you repeatably click on it - you may see a faint 
image "swoosh" off to the left or to the right (IF you have that feature turned 
on in Windows - it is on by default I believe).)  This method does NOT wrap!  
So you can end up shoving the window further off the screen!  If it doesn't 
show up fairly quickly, then hold down the other arrow key to see if it comes 
flying in from that side.



Bob





On 05/08/2017 14:47, Brian Kelly wrote:

> You are missing an important Windows tool for finding missing screens

> that will let you find the screen without using the three finger

> salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).

>

> When you think a window has opened off the visible screens hold ALT

> and click the spacebar. This will open a windows menu for the current

> (hidden) screen. One of the options there is move. The position of the

> menu will give you a clue as to where the hidden screen is located. It

> will be on the side of the monitor where that screen should be.

>

> Select move then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to move the

> hidden window into view. When it is fully visible click enter to exit

> the move mode.

>

> Legacy should remember the 

[LegacyUG] Citations, sources, etc.

2017-05-08 Thread Pat Hickin
My citations are a real mess. I use the Basic system and *do no want *to
use Source Writer.

By and large I have too much info rather than too little.  I'll appreciate
all suggestions for ways to better organize things.

I now have Legacy 9 Deluxe.

Pat
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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Ian Thomas
Certainly malware  scripts can be embedded in JPG images, but every server has 
anti-malware utilities that check for those.

As for size, if you look at the size of the post that you just sent, CE WOOD, 
it is greater than any of the individual images posted by Carrie Pillow.

That is because the internet headers are incredibly large, because of all the 
anti-malware checks that are done along the way from sender to Millennia's 
server and then back to all the subscribers to this list.
To view those internet headers - in Microsoft Outlook it is quite easy, using 
Message Options (you may have to customize).

Actually, size of individual list posts should not be a problem these days - 
provided small images are the rule. Windows Snipping Tool is usually OK for 
illustrative pics of Legacy Family Tree, I would think. Videos are always too 
large.

My opinion is that a few, well-chosen images clarify an explanation and will 
reduce the chatter through misunderstandings. Also, trimming some of the prior 
replies when sending a reply is sensible and polite. (That used to be a rule of 
internet etiquette)


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Monday, 8 May 2017 10:59 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been banned from the 
list for that reason.


CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 
>
 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 
>
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


It's the easiest way to help someone ?







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37
To: LegacyUserGroup 
>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



Are graphics now allowed on this list? There have been many posted this week.



If they are not, a reminder is really needed!





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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

2017-05-08 Thread Brian Kelly

Glad I could help.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:31 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Brian, that was quick and it worked.

-Original Message- From: Brian Kelly
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 7:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems

Options > Customize > 8.0 View
Section 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems
Click change settings and remove check marks from any of the problems
you do NOT want monitored.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:00 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to
disable the_potential problems _feature.
I keep having to individually delete things
like Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click
on the one I want and save, and it still
won’t work.   Other ‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I
do exclude them but it does only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the
family file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have
much more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail





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Re: [LegacyUG] Hash Tags

2017-05-08 Thread Cheryl Stegert
The other thing I like to do is review the master location list.  Sort by state 
in first position --  those would be the locations that will be the ones you 
really are looking for. Then scan to see if Michigan is listed in the country 
position or county or city position. I generally just re-sort the list to make 
the scan easier. I started doing this when I found I had put Michigan as the 
country name!

Cheryl

> On May 8, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> 
>> On 08/05/2017 00:15, Judith wrote:
>> O.K. that worked, now I’m stuck.  I did a search for ‘indiv., birth
>> place, equal to Michigan’, and No Records Found.  Is this not a good
>> search, again what am I missing.  I have tons of ancestors born in Michigan.
> But did you enter their birthplace as "Michigan" which is what you searched 
> for?  Or did you enter something like "Michigan, United States" or "Detroit, 
> Michigan, USA"?  In the latter case, you need to search for Birth Place 
> CONTAINS Michigan.
> 
> Legacy looks for EXACTLY what you tell it to look for.  It does not second 
> guess you and presume you meant all variations.
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy Cloud Backup]

2017-05-08 Thread Charles R. Heath II

Just successfully installed V.9.0.0.169.
Can't register for Cloud Backup.
Get thru Step 3 of instructions.
A "Register of this page" screen pops up then disappears in a few seconds.
What's left is an otherwise blank screen with the Legacy Cloud logo in the 
upper left hand corner.


I tried disconnecting my Shield antivirus protection but no resolution of 
problem.


Any ideas on how to solve this problem?





-Original Message- 
From: Brian Kelly

Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 7:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems

Options > Customize > 8.0 View
Section 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems
Click change settings and remove check marks from any of the problems
you do NOT want monitored.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:00 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to
disable the_potential problems _feature.
I keep having to individually delete things
like Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click
on the one I want and save, and it still
won’t work.   Other ‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I
do exclude them but it does only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the
family file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have
much more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail




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Re: [LegacyUG] Remove Source Citations

2017-05-08 Thread Cathy Pinner

Kris,
You can delete Sources with their Source Citations without doing it one 
at a time BUT that deletes the Master Source as well.
What you could do is to edit the Master Source slightly - just changing 
the Source List Name is enough - and you may want to change that anyway 
as that's your finding aid for your Master Sources so the name needs to 
follow a pattern you set. eg I start with Source type eg Census; Cem; PR 
for Parish Register ...


When you edit a Master Source and click Save you get the option to apply 
the change to all instances of the Master Source OR to a new copy. 
Choose the new copy option.
Then return to highlight the original in the Master Source list and 
click Options - Delete.

It will say it can't be deleted - do you want to see who uses it.
Say yes and on that next screen is a delete anyway button. So that would 
achieve what I think you say you want. Note that the people using it now 
have no indication that this source is relevant. So if that's not what 
you meant, then you need to do them one at a time.


But if your Master Source is fine, then why not just edit the Source Detail?

Sounds like you are actually doing a Go-Over seeing you want to keep 
things. So don't forget to set tags to say you've "gone over" that 
person or if you've switched to Legacy 9 you could use a number of 
hashtags to describe what you've checked.


I'm slowly doing a Go-Over and tag on 9 when I've finished checking 
sources and doing any further research I want to do at the moment. To 
keep focussed, I stick to a particular branch. I've just completed one I 
started in January. That one was mainly in South Australia. I'm looking 
forward to starting another mainly in England to take advantage 
particularly of Somerset Parish Registers that are now online. As part 
of my Go-Over I'm checking all transcriptions I've used where possible.


Cathy

Kris wrote:


I'm doing my version of the "Genealogy Do-Over" and want to retain my
Master Sources but remove all the source citations from individuals
and events.

I did the export/import GEDCOM but lost all the Master Sources in the
process. I've also experimented with the search list -- but it wants
confirmation for each and every delete. I'll be dead before that gets
done.

I'm sure the export/import GEDCOM is the way to go, but I'm not sure
which items to remove from the export.

Thanks!




Kris 
Tuesday, 9 May 2017 1:59 AM
I'm doing my version of the "Genealogy Do-Over" and want to retain my 
Master Sources but remove all the source citations from individuals 
and events.


I did the export/import GEDCOM but lost all the Master Sources in the 
process.  I've also experimented with the search list -- but it wants 
confirmation for each and every delete.  I'll be dead before that gets 
done.


I'm sure the export/import GEDCOM is the way to go, but I'm not sure 
which items to remove from the export.


Thanks!




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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

2017-05-08 Thread olivannahen

Thanks Brian, that was quick and it worked.

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Kelly

Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 7:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems

Options > Customize > 8.0 View
Section 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems
Click change settings and remove check marks from any of the problems
you do NOT want monitored.

Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:00 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to
disable the_potential problems _feature.
I keep having to individually delete things
like Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click
on the one I want and save, and it still
won’t work.   Other ‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I
do exclude them but it does only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the
family file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have
much more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail




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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Paul Gray
CE,

I assume you have turned off all graphics in webpage browsing, and only view 
pure text.  Otherwise, you are exposing yourself to the exact same risks when 
browsing.


Paul


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: May 8, 2017 12:05 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


Attachments are not a risk unless you open them. A graphic that is inside the 
email and opens automatically is a risk.



I am so glad you have been fortunate. Not all have.




CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 
>
 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 
>
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


I agree



And I've never know an embedded picture have a virus, it attachment that are a 
risk.



And I would not want to put a link to a personal cloud on a public  list that 
is asking for viruses.



I think if you wish to keep this list alive, there need to be some flexibility 
and common sense



Regards



Carrie



Apologies if I offend,







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Wes
Sent: 08 May 2017 15:04
To: Legacy User Group 
>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



I know attachments are banned, but a graphic pasted in the email seems to be a 
good way to show how to do something.

Am I wrong?

wes
On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:

But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been banned from the 
list for that reason.



CE





From: LegacyUserGroup 

 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 

Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



It's the easiest way to help someone ?







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37
To: LegacyUserGroup 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



Are graphics now allowed on this list? There have been many posted this week.



If they are not, a reminder is really needed!





CE




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Re: [LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

2017-05-08 Thread Brian Kelly

Options > Customize > 8.0 View
Section 8.11 Monitor Potential Problems
Click change settings and remove check marks from any of the problems 
you do NOT want monitored.


Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 7:00 PM, olivanna...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to
disable the_potential problems _feature.
I keep having to individually delete things
like Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click
on the one I want and save, and it still
won’t work.   Other ‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I
do exclude them but it does only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the
family file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have
much more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail




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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Ed Ladendorf
Good point Susie and Gene. Sometimes when we get used to having high speed
internet with little restrictions, we tend to forget about the less
fortunate.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Susie Zada  wrote:

> In this 'recent' discussion about graphics, Gene is the first to point out
> the issue of bandwidth and/or download limits.
>
> People need to remember that Legacy is an international product AND there
> are users all around the world - many don't have access to unlimited
> reasonably access!  And I'm speaking from experience here - living in
> country Victoria in Australia.
>
> Think of others.
>
> No-one would dispute the value of images when explaining things but I would
> dispute the value of open-slather on this list.  If you want why not put
> your images on the Legacy Facebook page and include a link to, but don't
> exclude the rest of the users from this list!
>
> Regards ... Susie Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Gene Young
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 6:09 AM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list
>
> On 5/8/2017 1:51 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
> > It seems that there are people who would like to have the ability to add
> embedded images to posts, and possibly some who are against that (although
> that might not be the case). Since the membership of the list is not what
> it
> once was, maybe the ones who make the rules would be open to putting it to
> a
> vote of the remaining members??
>
>
> Is it possible to get a virus from an embedded image? I don't know the
> answer to that, but I know a lot of forums allow that, so I doubt it's a
> problem. Who would like to have a vote? If that's acceptable, count me in
> for allowing it. If not, I'll abide by the rules.
>
> embedded images are sent with the email as attachments, so yes, they can
> easily send viruses.  Some people have limited bandwidth due to various
> reasons; financial, locality & availability of cable service.  It is not
> fair to hammer their limited access.  It is a simple matter to post your
> image to a reputable hosting site and post the link.  Every body benefits
> and no one suffers.
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] potential problems!!!!

2017-05-08 Thread olivannahen

Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to disable 
the potential problems feature.
I keep having to individually delete things like 
Upper case surnames, which I want.  I go to the options and click on the one I 
want and save, and it still won’t work.   Other 
‘problems as well.’   such as children sorting.  I do exclude them but it does 
only work for that person.
This could take forever and on opening the family 
file they are back.
I sure learn a lot from this forum and have much 
more to learn.
Thanks,
Gail



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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Robert57P_gmail

Alt-Tab only cycles through open APPLICATIONS (programs)
Alt-ESC will not only cycle through open applications, but will also 
cycle through open CHILD windows.


Unfortunately (usually) neither will help you find the window if it is 
off screen.


If you can get focus to the child window, try WINDOW-RIGHT ARROW (or 
WINDOW-LEFT ARROW).  Keep hitting same key combo until the child shows 
up on the desired screen.  WINDOW-ARROW key takes the window that is in 
focus, and moves it to the left edge of its current monitor (if you use 
left), then to the right edge of the next monitor to the left, then to 
the center of that next monitor, then to the left edge of that monitor, 
then right edge of 3rd monitor, etc, etc, etc.   The good thing about 
this - it WRAPS - so when it gets to the left edge of the left most 
monitor it will circle around the right edge of the right most monitor, 
then center of the right most monitor, etc.  Eventually it should end up 
being visible.


With Windows 7 (my Windows 10 machine is doing a backup, so I can't test 
it) - I tried having a Legacy child window open, then made some other 
program the active window.  Then, by clicking on the Legacy icon on the 
task bar, the CHILD became active - and thus I was able to move the 
child window around using the WINDOW-ARROW method.  In other words, I 
did NOT need to click on the child to make it active - just clicking on 
the Legacy icon made the child active.


You can also try right clicking on the task bar and select CASCADE 
WINDOWS or on SHOW WINDOWS STACKED - but I'm not sure if this will bring 
a CHILD window back to your main monitor.  Worth a try though.


I have some programs that, no matter WHERE I last closed them, they 
INSIST on opening on some other monitor the next time.  It can get real 
OLD real FAST - but I've learned to just deal with it.


btw - there is another method that works for a PROGRAM window that is 
"lost", but it apparently does not work for a CHILD window that is 
lost:  SHIFT-Right click on the icon on the task bar, select RESTORE (if 
RESTORE is available - if it is gray, move on to next step).  Then 
SHIFT-Right click on the icon again and select MOVE (and let go of the 
SHIFT-Right-click).  Then hold down either the right or the left arrow 
to move the window.  Of course it helps if you have a good idea if the 
window is "lost" to the left or right. (If you have good eyes, you can 
sometimes tell this by first watching the button on the task bar as you 
repeatably click on it - you may see a faint image "swoosh" off to the 
left or to the right (IF you have that feature turned on in Windows - it 
is on by default I believe).)  This method does NOT wrap!  So you can 
end up shoving the window further off the screen!  If it doesn't show up 
fairly quickly, then hold down the other arrow key to see if it comes 
flying in from that side.


Bob


On 05/08/2017 14:47, Brian Kelly wrote:
You are missing an important Windows tool for finding missing screens 
that will let you find the screen without using the three finger 
salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).


When you think a window has opened off the visible screens hold ALT 
and click the spacebar. This will open a windows menu for the current 
(hidden) screen. One of the options there is move. The position of the 
menu will give you a clue as to where the hidden screen is located. It 
will be on the side of the monitor where that screen should be.


Select move then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to move the 
hidden window into view. When it is fully visible click enter to exit 
the move mode.


Legacy should remember the last place a screen was opened/closed and 
reopen it there. In older version those screen locations were stored 
in the Legacy2.usr file. If they still use that file you will find it 
in your _AppData\Usr folder. Deleting that file is major surgery 
because it will reset all screens back to their default sizes and 
locations.


Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it often
was partially off either screen - but I could locate it and move it.
With Legacy 9 it is often off both screens and cannot be located. Since
Legacy has a window open I can't do anything. The program is basically
locked and I have to close the Legacy window - not a proper close.

Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since no
other program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there is a
setting I'm missing?

Cheryl Rothwell








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Re: [LegacyUG] Remove Source Citations

2017-05-08 Thread BARTON LEWIS

thanks


On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 04:41 PM, Kris wrote:



https://www.google.com/search?q=genealogy+do-over

Lots of stuff about it.

On 5/8/2017 1:44 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:

What's the "Genealogy Do-Over?"


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Re: [LegacyUG] Remove Source Citations

2017-05-08 Thread Kris


https://www.google.com/search?q=genealogy+do-over

Lots of stuff about it.

On 5/8/2017 1:44 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:

What's the "Genealogy Do-Over?"


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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Susie Zada
In this 'recent' discussion about graphics, Gene is the first to point out
the issue of bandwidth and/or download limits.

People need to remember that Legacy is an international product AND there
are users all around the world - many don't have access to unlimited
reasonably access!  And I'm speaking from experience here - living in
country Victoria in Australia.

Think of others.

No-one would dispute the value of images when explaining things but I would
dispute the value of open-slather on this list.  If you want why not put
your images on the Legacy Facebook page and include a link to, but don't
exclude the rest of the users from this list!

Regards ... Susie Z

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Young
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 6:09 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

On 5/8/2017 1:51 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
> It seems that there are people who would like to have the ability to add
embedded images to posts, and possibly some who are against that (although
that might not be the case). Since the membership of the list is not what it
once was, maybe the ones who make the rules would be open to putting it to a
vote of the remaining members??


Is it possible to get a virus from an embedded image? I don't know the
answer to that, but I know a lot of forums allow that, so I doubt it's a
problem. Who would like to have a vote? If that's acceptable, count me in
for allowing it. If not, I'll abide by the rules.

embedded images are sent with the email as attachments, so yes, they can
easily send viruses.  Some people have limited bandwidth due to various
reasons; financial, locality & availability of cable service.  It is not
fair to hammer their limited access.  It is a simple matter to post your
image to a reputable hosting site and post the link.  Every body benefits
and no one suffers.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Gene Young

On 5/8/2017 1:51 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:

It seems that there are people who would like to have the ability to add 
embedded images to posts, and possibly some who are against that (although that 
might not be the case). Since the membership of the list is not what it once 
was, maybe the ones who make the rules would be open to putting it to a vote of 
the remaining members??



Is it possible to get a virus from an embedded image? I don't know the answer 
to that, but I know a lot of forums allow that, so I doubt it's a problem. Who 
would like to have a vote? If that's acceptable, count me in for allowing it. 
If not, I'll abide by the rules.

embedded images are sent with the email as attachments, so yes, they can easily 
send viruses.  Some people have limited bandwidth due to various reasons; 
financial, locality & availability of cable service.  It is not fair to hammer 
their limited access.  It is a simple matter to post your image to a reputable 
hosting site and post the link.  Every body benefits and no one suffers.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch
Thank you Martha. As another writer of technical documentation (retired in 2009 
after nearly 30 years in Silicon Valley) I agree. A graphic, along with 
callouts (arrows and text) to describe about what you are writing is very 
important.

 

However, as a writer who has used Microsoft (or Apple) interface terms since 
the mid-1980s, I cringe with some descriptions I read. A ‘screen’ is the 
surface of a monitor. A program displays in a window. The user can have several 
programs running, each in its own window, on the screen of the monitor.

 

Best,

 

Denise Moss-Fritch

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Martha Graham
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

 

Good Morning Listers and Legacy Support Staff

 

I write tutorials all the time using graphics from various types of software 
along with text explaining the steps- these are primarily for folks who need a 
visual way to navigate complicated programs and get the results they desire.

 

If we cannot help each other using our experiences, we are shooting ourselves 
in the foot and discouraging others from expanding their use and knowledge of 
the software that can make a difference in the organization of their family 
research.

 

Please consider allowing graphics within email notes and queries, they work!

 

Thank you,

Martha A Crosley Graham

Los Osos, CA

 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Brian Kelly
You are missing an important Windows tool for finding missing screens 
that will let you find the screen without using the three finger salute 
(CTRL-ALT-DEL).


When you think a window has opened off the visible screens hold ALT and 
click the spacebar. This will open a windows menu for the current 
(hidden) screen. One of the options there is move. The position of the 
menu will give you a clue as to where the hidden screen is located. It 
will be on the side of the monitor where that screen should be.


Select move then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to move the hidden 
window into view. When it is fully visible click enter to exit the move 
mode.


Legacy should remember the last place a screen was opened/closed and 
reopen it there. In older version those screen locations were stored in 
the Legacy2.usr file. If they still use that file you will find it in 
your _AppData\Usr folder. Deleting that file is major surgery because it 
will reset all screens back to their default sizes and locations.


Brian Kelly

On 08-May-17 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it often
was partially off either screen - but I could locate it and move it.
With Legacy 9 it is often off both screens and cannot be located. Since
Legacy has a window open I can't do anything. The program is basically
locked and I have to close the Legacy window - not a proper close.

Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since no
other program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there is a
setting I'm missing?

Cheryl Rothwell





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Re: [LegacyUG] Remove Source Citations

2017-05-08 Thread BARTON LEWIS

What's the "Genealogy Do-Over?"

Barton


On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 01:59 PM, Kris wrote:

I'm doing my version of the "Genealogy Do-Over" and want to retain my 
Master Sources but remove all the source citations from individuals 
and events.


I did the export/import GEDCOM but lost all the Master Sources in the 
process.  I've also experimented with the search list -- but it wants 
confirmation for each and every delete.  I'll be dead before that gets 
done.


I'm sure the export/import GEDCOM is the way to go, but I'm not sure 
which items to remove from the export.


Thanks!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread CE WOOD
It's not just viruses; it's malware too. And your computer could already be 
infected, meaning you have no idea that the image you send contains the virus 
or malware.


Normal looking images can hack your computers. You should not presume the image 
files as "innocent" anymore, as they can hide malicious code deep inside its 
pixels that could infect your computers.


Photos can be embedded in emails as they are in webpages—and do their dirty 
work when you open the mail.  Steganography, which in a digital context means 
the art of hiding data in another type of file. Malicious code can be hidden 
within the pixels in any digital image.


Users typically don't think of common image files (such as .jpg, .png, .bmp, 
and .gif pictures) as risky or insecure, but it's possible to conceal malicious 
code in an image.


A graphic can easily contain additional bits interwoven within the image, 
without noticeably effecting the image's appearance. That additional data can 
include code, which is encrypted to make it harder to identify.

Luckily, such an altered image can't do much by itself. No image viewer will 
see or know what to do with that code, even if it isn't encrypted. But malware 
developers often break up their code into multiple pieces and distribute them 
separately to avoid detection.

The information hidden in a picture could contain instructions useful to 
another piece of malware on your computer. Once your computer is infected, what 
you send can be also. In other words, a device can be compromised, in theory, 
after simply opening a picture.



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of Ed 
Ladendorf 
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 10:51 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

It seems that there are people who would like to have the ability to add 
embedded images to posts, and possibly some who are against that (although that 
might not be the case). Since the membership of the list is not what it once 
was, maybe the ones who make the rules would be open to putting it to a vote of 
the remaining members?? Is it possible to get a virus from an embedded image? I 
don't know the answer to that, but I know a lot of forums allow that, so I 
doubt it's a problem. Who would like to have a vote? If that's acceptable, 
count me in for allowing it. If not, I'll abide by the rules.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Carrie Pillow 
> wrote:
I agree

And I’ve never know an embedded picture have a virus, it attachment that are a 
risk.

And I would not want to put a link to a personal cloud on a public  list that 
is asking for viruses.

I think if you wish to keep this list alive, there need to be some flexibility 
and common sense

Regards

Carrie

Apologies if I offend,



From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Wes
Sent: 08 May 2017 15:04
To: Legacy User Group 
>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

I know attachments are banned, but a graphic pasted in the email seems to be a 
good way to show how to do something.

Am I wrong?

wes
On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:

But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been banned from the 
list for that reason.


CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 

 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 

Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


It’s the easiest way to help someone ?







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37
To: LegacyUserGroup 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



Are graphics now allowed on this list? There have been many posted this week.



If they are not, a reminder is really needed!





CE





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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread CE WOOD
Attachments are not a risk unless you open them. A graphic that is inside the 
email and opens automatically is a risk.


I am so glad you have been fortunate. Not all have.



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Carrie Pillow 
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


I agree



And I’ve never know an embedded picture have a virus, it attachment that are a 
risk.



And I would not want to put a link to a personal cloud on a public  list that 
is asking for viruses.



I think if you wish to keep this list alive, there need to be some flexibility 
and common sense



Regards



Carrie



Apologies if I offend,







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Wes
Sent: 08 May 2017 15:04
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



I know attachments are banned, but a graphic pasted in the email seems to be a 
good way to show how to do something.

Am I wrong?

wes
On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:

But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been banned from the 
list for that reason.



CE





From: LegacyUserGroup 

 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 

Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



It’s the easiest way to help someone ?







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37
To: LegacyUserGroup 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



Are graphics now allowed on this list? There have been many posted this week.



If they are not, a reminder is really needed!





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[LegacyUG] Remove Source Citations

2017-05-08 Thread Kris
I'm doing my version of the "Genealogy Do-Over" and want to retain my 
Master Sources but remove all the source citations from individuals and 
events.


I did the export/import GEDCOM but lost all the Master Sources in the 
process.  I've also experimented with the search list -- but it wants 
confirmation for each and every delete.  I'll be dead before that gets 
done.


I'm sure the export/import GEDCOM is the way to go, but I'm not sure 
which items to remove from the export.


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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Candace Wilmot
No, alt-tab doesn't show it either. I have the same problem.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:18 PM, R G Strong Genealogy <
rgstrongge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alt+tab should show you the open windows. When you tab to the Legacy open
> window then do as Gene suggested.
>
> On 5/8/2017 1:14 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>
> I have never found an icon for the off screen window in the taskbar. There
> is just the Legacy icon. When I click on it and chose close the window the
> program terminates.
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Gene Young  wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2017 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>>
>>> I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it often
>>> was partially off either screen - but I could locate it and move it. With
>>> Legacy 9 it is often off both screens and cannot be located. Since Legacy
>>> has a window open I can't do anything. The program is basically locked and
>>> I have to close the Legacy window - not a proper close.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since no
>>> other program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there is a
>>> setting I'm missing?
>>>
>>> Cheryl Rothwell
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not Legacy. It is windows.  Windows remembers where a window was
>> when the program closes and tries to put it back there.
>> You may have had a window open off screen when you closed Legacy and
>> windows put it back there
>>
>> Here's one way to "rescue" such an off-screen window and bring it back
>> onto the active monitor:
>>
>> Make the off-screen window the active window by clicking on its icon
>> in the Windows Taskbar.
>> Press Alt+Space, and then press the M key. ...
>> Press any arrow key once.
>>
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>> http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Ed Ladendorf
It seems that there are people who would like to have the ability to add
embedded images to posts, and possibly some who are against that (although
that might not be the case). Since the membership of the list is not what
it once was, maybe the ones who make the rules would be open to putting it
to a vote of the remaining members?? Is it possible to get a virus from an
embedded image? I don't know the answer to that, but I know a lot of forums
allow that, so I doubt it's a problem. Who would like to have a vote? If
that's acceptable, count me in for allowing it. If not, I'll abide by the
rules.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Carrie Pillow 
wrote:

> I agree
>
>
>
> And I’ve never know an embedded picture have a virus, it attachment that
> are a risk.
>
>
>
> And I would not want to put a link to a personal cloud on a public  list
> that is asking for viruses.
>
>
>
> I think if you wish to keep this list alive, there need to be some
> flexibility and common sense
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Carrie
>
>
>
> Apologies if I offend,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Wes
> *Sent:* 08 May 2017 15:04
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list
>
>
>
> I know attachments are banned, but a graphic pasted in the email seems to
> be a good way to show how to do something.
>
> Am I wrong?
>
> wes
> On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:
>
> But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been banned from
> the list for that reason.
>
>
>
> CE
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup 
>  on behalf of Carrie Pillow
>  
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list
>
>
>
> It’s the easiest way to help someone ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *CE WOOD
> *Sent:* 08 May 2017 01:37
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup 
> 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list
>
>
>
> Are graphics now allowed on this list? There have been many posted this
> week.
>
>
>
> If they are not, a reminder is really needed!
>
>
>
>
>
> CE
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
Ah. I will give that a try. Thanks.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:18 PM, R G Strong Genealogy <
rgstrongge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alt+tab should show you the open windows. When you tab to the Legacy open
> window then do as Gene suggested.
>
> On 5/8/2017 1:14 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>
> I have never found an icon for the off screen window in the taskbar. There
> is just the Legacy icon. When I click on it and chose close the window the
> program terminates.
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Gene Young  wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2017 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>>
>>> I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it often
>>> was partially off either screen - but I could locate it and move it. With
>>> Legacy 9 it is often off both screens and cannot be located. Since Legacy
>>> has a window open I can't do anything. The program is basically locked and
>>> I have to close the Legacy window - not a proper close.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since no
>>> other program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there is a
>>> setting I'm missing?
>>>
>>> Cheryl Rothwell
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not Legacy. It is windows.  Windows remembers where a window was
>> when the program closes and tries to put it back there.
>> You may have had a window open off screen when you closed Legacy and
>> windows put it back there
>>
>> Here's one way to "rescue" such an off-screen window and bring it back
>> onto the active monitor:
>>
>> Make the off-screen window the active window by clicking on its icon
>> in the Windows Taskbar.
>> Press Alt+Space, and then press the M key. ...
>> Press any arrow key once.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gene Young
>> Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
>> With Legacy Family Tree
>> http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread R G Strong Genealogy
Alt+tab should show you the open windows. When you tab to the Legacy 
open window then do as Gene suggested.



On 5/8/2017 1:14 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
I have never found an icon for the off screen window in the taskbar. 
There is just the Legacy icon. When I click on it and chose close the 
window the program terminates.


On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Gene Young > wrote:


On 5/8/2017 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was
opened it often was partially off either screen - but I could
locate it and move it. With Legacy 9 it is often off both
screens and cannot be located. Since Legacy has a window open
I can't do anything. The program is basically locked and I
have to close the Legacy window - not a proper close.

Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window?
Since no other program does this I have to think it is Legacy.
Maybe there is a setting I'm missing?

Cheryl Rothwell


It is not Legacy. It is windows.  Windows remembers where a window
was when the program closes and tries to put it back there.
You may have had a window open off screen when you closed Legacy
and windows put it back there

Here's one way to "rescue" such an off-screen window and bring it
back onto the active monitor:

Make the off-screen window the active window by clicking on
its icon in the Windows Taskbar.
Press Alt+Space, and then press the M key. ...
Press any arrow key once.

-- 


Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm




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P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy 
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Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. 
Check out my Genealogy Pages at https://www.rgstrong-genes.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
I have never found an icon for the off screen window in the taskbar. There
is just the Legacy icon. When I click on it and chose close the window the
program terminates.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Gene Young  wrote:

> On 5/8/2017 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>
>> I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it often
>> was partially off either screen - but I could locate it and move it. With
>> Legacy 9 it is often off both screens and cannot be located. Since Legacy
>> has a window open I can't do anything. The program is basically locked and
>> I have to close the Legacy window - not a proper close.
>>
>> Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since no
>> other program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there is a
>> setting I'm missing?
>>
>> Cheryl Rothwell
>>
>>
>> It is not Legacy. It is windows.  Windows remembers where a window was
> when the program closes and tries to put it back there.
> You may have had a window open off screen when you closed Legacy and
> windows put it back there
>
> Here's one way to "rescue" such an off-screen window and bring it back
> onto the active monitor:
>
> Make the off-screen window the active window by clicking on its icon
> in the Windows Taskbar.
> Press Alt+Space, and then press the M key. ...
> Press any arrow key once.
>
> --
>
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> Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
> With Legacy Family Tree
> http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm
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Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Gene Young

On 5/8/2017 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it often was 
partially off either screen - but I could locate it and move it. With Legacy 9 
it is often off both screens and cannot be located. Since Legacy has a window 
open I can't do anything. The program is basically locked and I have to close 
the Legacy window - not a proper close.

Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since no other 
program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there is a setting I'm 
missing?

Cheryl Rothwell



It is not Legacy. It is windows.  Windows remembers where a window was when the 
program closes and tries to put it back there.
You may have had a window open off screen when you closed Legacy and windows 
put it back there

Here's one way to "rescue" such an off-screen window and bring it back onto the 
active monitor:

Make the off-screen window the active window by clicking on its icon in the 
Windows Taskbar.
Press Alt+Space, and then press the M key. ...
Press any arrow key once.

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With Legacy Family Tree
http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm

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[LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Beginning Danish Research by Charles Fritz Juengling, AG

2017-05-08 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hash Tags

2017-05-08 Thread Jenny M Benson

On 08/05/2017 00:15, Judith wrote:

O.K. that worked, now I’m stuck.  I did a search for ‘indiv., birth
place, equal to Michigan’, and No Records Found.  Is this not a good
search, again what am I missing.  I have tons of ancestors born in Michigan.

But did you enter their birthplace as "Michigan" which is what you 
searched for?  Or did you enter something like "Michigan, United States" 
or "Detroit, Michigan, USA"?  In the latter case, you need to search for 
Birth Place CONTAINS Michigan.


Legacy looks for EXACTLY what you tell it to look for.  It does not 
second guess you and presume you meant all variations.





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Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Martha Graham

Good Morning Listers and Legacy Support Staff

I write tutorials all the time using graphics from various types of 
software along with text explaining the steps- these are primarily for 
folks who need a visual way to navigate complicated programs and get the 
results they desire.


If we cannot help each other using our experiences, we are shooting 
ourselves in the foot and discouraging others from expanding their use 
and knowledge of the software that can make a difference in the 
organization of their family research.


Please consider allowing graphics within email notes and queries, they 
work!


Thank you,
Martha A Crosley Graham
Los Osos, CA


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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Carrie Pillow
I agree

And I've never know an embedded picture have a virus, it attachment that are a 
risk.

And I would not want to put a link to a personal cloud on a public  list that 
is asking for viruses.

I think if you wish to keep this list alive, there need to be some flexibility 
and common sense

Regards

Carrie

Apologies if I offend,



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Wes
Sent: 08 May 2017 15:04
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

I know attachments are banned, but a graphic pasted in the email seems to be a 
good way to show how to do something.

Am I wrong?

wes
On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:

But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been banned from the 
list for that reason.


CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 

 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 

Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


It's the easiest way to help someone ?







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37
To: LegacyUserGroup 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



Are graphics now allowed on this list? There have been many posted this week.



If they are not, a reminder is really needed!





CE




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[LegacyUG] window opens off screen

2017-05-08 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it often
was partially off either screen - but I could locate it and move it. With
Legacy 9 it is often off both screens and cannot be located. Since Legacy
has a window open I can't do anything. The program is basically locked and
I have to close the Legacy window - not a proper close.

Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since no
other program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there is a
setting I'm missing?

Cheryl Rothwell
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hello. Is anyone home?

2017-05-08 Thread Sherry
The list isn't as busy as it used to be. Most of the people went to the
Legacy Facebook page.

However, I do hope they keep the list open because not everyone wants to
use Facebook. I have a FB account, but personally find it *VERY* difficult
to navigate, particularly when a page is really active - and I've been
trying for over 6 months now! The only groups I pay attention to are the
ones that have very few posts.

I still prefer email over "social media"

Sherry


On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Ed Ladendorf  wrote:

> I have a feeling I'm not receiving many posts. There has only been one
> from this list today!! Is it really that slow?
>
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[LegacyUG] Hello. Is anyone home?

2017-05-08 Thread Ed Ladendorf
I have a feeling I'm not receiving many posts. There has only been one from
this list today!! Is it really that slow?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Hot.Rod.Wife


You can always put the picture in a file sharing site like Onedrive or Dropbox 
and agate y the link. 
Sherry


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S

 Original message 
From: Wes  
Date: 5/8/17  7:03 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Legacy User Group  
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list 


I know attachments are banned, but a
  graphic pasted in the email seems to be a good way to show how to
  do something.

  

  Am I wrong?

  

  wes

  On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:



  
  
#mid_CY1PR17MB0110675CE37675B4784283EC8FEE0_CY1PR17MB0110_namprd17_prod_outlook_com
 P { margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; }

  
But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been
  banned from the list for that reason.





CE





  
  From:
  LegacyUserGroup
   on behalf
  of Carrie Pillow 

  Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM

  To: Legacy User Group

  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to
  the list
 
  
  

  
It’s the
  easiest way to help someone ?
  
 
  
 
  
 
  

  
From: LegacyUserGroup
  [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
  On Behalf Of CE WOOD

  Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37

  To: LegacyUserGroup
  

  Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted
  to the list

  
  
 
  
Are graphics now allowed on this list?
There have been many posted this week.
 
If they are not, a reminder is really
needed!
 
 

  
CE 

  

  

  
  

  
  






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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

2017-05-08 Thread Wes

  
  
I know attachments are banned, but a
  graphic pasted in the email seems to be a good way to show how to
  do something.
  
  Am I wrong?
  
  wes
  On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:


  
  
  
But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been
  banned from the list for that reason.



CE



  
  From:
  LegacyUserGroup
   on behalf
  of Carrie Pillow 
  Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
  To: Legacy User Group
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to
  the list
 
  
  

  
It’s the
  easiest way to help someone ?
  
 
  
 
  
 
  

  
From: LegacyUserGroup
  [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
  On Behalf Of CE WOOD
  Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37
  To: LegacyUserGroup
  
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted
  to the list

  
  
 
  
Are graphics now allowed on this list?
There have been many posted this week.
 
If they are not, a reminder is really
needed!
 
 

  
CE 

  

  

  
  
  
  




  


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

2017-05-08 Thread Sharon Blair
On the F.A.G. sites I have posted pictures & info I give open permission for 
others to save them - with a caution many times there are pictures & info 
posted from several people I can only give permission for my own. And the 
contributors names do appear.  And I do think people should be more open to 
sharing, to me it isn't just adding numbers but helping people. But I am a 
little selfish in feeling that actual relatives should be given preference over 
strangers just posting stuff for the numbers. I am not in a contest.  Sorry 
about the gripe it's just my thinking.


Sharon Stiles Blair


From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Michele/Support 
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day


If the person has given blanket permission to use the photo it depends on how 
it is worded on whether or not I still email them.  I have an Excel spreadsheet 
where I keep track of all the people I have received permission from.  When I 
ask for permission I ask for not only that photo but any other that they might 
have taken that I find later.  I also tell them that I write for 3 blogs and 
that I might need that photo at some point in a post to make a point.  I always 
tell them that full credit to them will be given to them as the photographer.  
I am yet to be turned down. Most send me an email of thanks for taking the time 
to ask their permission.

If the photo was taken by someone that is now dead, I put in a new photo 
request with an explanation on why I am asking for a new photo.  I have had to 
do that a couple of times and it was no problem at all.





Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Junk gmail
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:23 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day



Thank you Michele



It is great that you wrote this up for us. The only other step I would add is 
to check the photo submitters profile because there are some that have in there 
profile that users can feel free to use their photo. My Aunt is on of them (she 
has submitted over 500) and I know that she would like not being bothered with 
a request to use one of her photos since it is in her profile.



Barb



- Original Message -

From: Michele/Support

To: 'Legacy User Group'

Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 8:06 AM

Subject: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day



TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - My current project

(Legacy 9)



I have been doing genealogy a long time, long before Find a Grave (or any other 
website for that matter) existed. Back in the day you either visited the 
cemetery yourself or you used a cemetery survey book. I have A LOT of people 
that have a cemetery survey book as a source.

A picture of the actual tombstone is better evidence than a transcription of 
the tombstone in a cemetery survey book so I have tagged everyone in my file 
that uses a cemetery book as a source (easy to do on the Master Source List). I 
am using the tag navigation tool in the extreme bottom right corner of the 
Family View to go from person to person. It looks like this I:2. In this case I 
am using Individual Tag 2. You can navigate by using the forward and backward 
arrows and you can change the tag number by clicking in the center of that 
button.

I am using the new FaG tool to help my find these people on Find a Grave.

1) If there is a FaG memorial with a photo, I add the FaG number to the new FaG 
field, I create a new source and I delete the old one, and I ask permission of 
the photographer to download the photograph to my file. I then untag the person.

2) If there is a FaG memorial without a photo, I request a photo and I untag 
this person but I then tag them on another dedicated tag letting me know that I 
am in a holding pattern. I do not change my source citation. I never use FaG as 
a source unless there is a photograph.

3) If there is no FaG memorial, I add one. I know the person is buried there 
because I have a cemetery survey book that says so. When I create the memorial 
I put full source citation to the book and I request a photo. I then untag them 
from this tag and tag them on the other tag (my holding pattern one). Again, I 
don't change my source, not until I have a photograph.

So what happens if I request a photo and the FaG volunteer advises that there 
is no marker? Then my cemetery book