Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

[Christopher Seward Sr.]

Thanks to everyone.  Sad to see that a non-feature was implemented.  It 
only gives the impression of something cool, with no substance.


With the advent of (relatively) inexpensive DNA tests, it really would 
be nice to have this feature working within the main data source of my 
genealogy research.


Thanks again to all for the responses.

Christopher

On 4/13/2020 4:08 PM, Dave Naylor wrote:
Years/versions ago I made many suggestions for DNA features to be 
added to Legacy but as a lone voice in the wilderness they were all 
ignored.  The current DNA features in Legacy are so out-of-date that 
they are worthless. There was never any benefit to putting all the STR 
values of a Y-DNA test into Legacy.  Millennia could have done far 
better.


One of the suggestions was to provide a choice for autosomal tests, so 
users could select this and in the Notes section show the testing 
company and other details such as GEDmatch kit number, etc.  This 
would then at least colour the DNA icon to show that a test had been 
taken.


Without this feature I've resorted to use of a "DNA test" event to 
record the details (but obviously not the data).
I also use a "DNA match" event to record who else in my tree this 
person matches (and vice versa).


I like Ward's suggestion of using hashtags for grouping but all my 
research in that area is performed on spreadsheets where the 
Triangulated Groups are more apparent.


Cheers! -- Dave N.


On 2020-04-13 10:09 a.m., Ward Walker wrote:
I don't think it is a matter of past and present, except perhaps in 
terms of popularity. The tests that have limited markers are the 
Y-DNA and mtDNA tests. These are still happening and can be very, 
very helpful in solving genealogy issues. The tests that have huge 
raw data sets are autosomal DNA. These have two purposes. Matches, 
with the help of triangulation, can help to identify common ancestors 
among people that have done their paper-trail research. The second 
purpose is the ethnicity estimates, which are still more art than 
science.


In Legacy, the DNA dialog has a menu for selecting which company did 
the Y-DNA or mtDNA test. Then you can record the marker values.


Personally, I don't use this. What I do use is hashtags to group 
together individuals whose DNA matches suggest a common ancestor.


  Ward

-Original Message- From: Brian Kelly
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 6:33 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

When DNA results entries were added to Legacy the style of DNA testing
being done by the various companies was different.

They tested and returned values for a very limited number of points on
the DNA molecule. If you open the DNA section and choose one of the
tests you will see how few values were tested. Nowadays all the
companies are doing a style of test that returns literally thousands of
values, the raw data from these tests is Megabytes of data, way too much
to manually transcribe.

Brian Kelly

On 12-Apr.-20 10:53 p.m., Christopher Seward Sr. wrote:
I know this has been a while, but confusion still abounds. Within 
Legacy, there is a place to manually enter DNA results into a 
person's record. The only problem is that the available fields do 
not match the data. You state that the only thing we can do with DNA 
is attach the file in the Media gallery.  Why is there a place to 
enter the DNA results, if we can't enter the DNA results?  Anyone 
have a clue about this?


Thanks!

Christopher 




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

[Dave Naylor]

Years/versions ago I made many suggestions for DNA features to be added 
to Legacy but as a lone voice in the wilderness they were all ignored.  
The current DNA features in Legacy are so out-of-date that they are 
worthless. There was never any benefit to putting all the STR values of 
a Y-DNA test into Legacy.  Millennia could have done far better.


One of the suggestions was to provide a choice for autosomal tests, so 
users could select this and in the Notes section show the testing 
company and other details such as GEDmatch kit number, etc.  This would 
then at least colour the DNA icon to show that a test had been taken.


Without this feature I've resorted to use of a "DNA test" event to 
record the details (but obviously not the data).
I also use a "DNA match" event to record who else in my tree this person 
matches (and vice versa).


I like Ward's suggestion of using hashtags for grouping but all my 
research in that area is performed on spreadsheets where the 
Triangulated Groups are more apparent.


Cheers! -- Dave N.


On 2020-04-13 10:09 a.m., Ward Walker wrote:
I don't think it is a matter of past and present, except perhaps in 
terms of popularity. The tests that have limited markers are the Y-DNA 
and mtDNA tests. These are still happening and can be very, very 
helpful in solving genealogy issues. The tests that have huge raw data 
sets are autosomal DNA. These have two purposes. Matches, with the 
help of triangulation, can help to identify common ancestors among 
people that have done their paper-trail research. The second purpose 
is the ethnicity estimates, which are still more art than science.


In Legacy, the DNA dialog has a menu for selecting which company did 
the Y-DNA or mtDNA test. Then you can record the marker values.


Personally, I don't use this. What I do use is hashtags to group 
together individuals whose DNA matches suggest a common ancestor.


  Ward

-Original Message- From: Brian Kelly
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 6:33 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

When DNA results entries were added to Legacy the style of DNA testing
being done by the various companies was different.

They tested and returned values for a very limited number of points on
the DNA molecule. If you open the DNA section and choose one of the
tests you will see how few values were tested. Nowadays all the
companies are doing a style of test that returns literally thousands of
values, the raw data from these tests is Megabytes of data, way too much
to manually transcribe.

Brian Kelly

On 12-Apr.-20 10:53 p.m., Christopher Seward Sr. wrote:
I know this has been a while, but confusion still abounds. Within 
Legacy, there is a place to manually enter DNA results into a 
person's record. The only problem is that the available fields do not 
match the data.  You state that the only thing we can do with DNA is 
attach the file in the Media gallery.  Why is there a place to enter 
the DNA results, if we can't enter the DNA results?  Anyone have a 
clue about this?


Thanks!

Christopher 


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

[Ward Walker]

I don't think it is a matter of past and present, except perhaps in terms of 
popularity. The tests that have limited markers are the Y-DNA and mtDNA 
tests. These are still happening and can be very, very helpful in solving 
genealogy issues. The tests that have huge raw data sets are autosomal DNA. 
These have two purposes. Matches, with the help of triangulation, can help 
to identify common ancestors among people that have done their paper-trail 
research. The second purpose is the ethnicity estimates, which are still 
more art than science.


In Legacy, the DNA dialog has a menu for selecting which company did the 
Y-DNA or mtDNA test. Then you can record the marker values.


Personally, I don't use this. What I do use is hashtags to group together 
individuals whose DNA matches suggest a common ancestor.


  Ward

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Kelly

Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 6:33 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

When DNA results entries were added to Legacy the style of DNA testing
being done by the various companies was different.

They tested and returned values for a very limited number of points on
the DNA molecule. If you open the DNA section and choose one of the
tests you will see how few values were tested. Nowadays all the
companies are doing a style of test that returns literally thousands of
values, the raw data from these tests is Megabytes of data, way too much
to manually transcribe.

Brian Kelly

On 12-Apr.-20 10:53 p.m., Christopher Seward Sr. wrote:
I know this has been a while, but confusion still abounds. Within Legacy, 
there is a place to manually enter DNA results into a person's record. 
The only problem is that the available fields do not match the data.  You 
state that the only thing we can do with DNA is attach the file in the 
Media gallery.  Why is there a place to enter the DNA results, if we can't 
enter the DNA results?  Anyone have a clue about this?


Thanks!

Christopher



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

[Brian Kelly]

When DNA results entries were added to Legacy the style of DNA testing 
being done by the various companies was different.


They tested and returned values for a very limited number of points on 
the DNA molecule. If you open the DNA section and choose one of the 
tests you will see how few values were tested. Nowadays all the 
companies are doing a style of test that returns literally thousands of 
values, the raw data from these tests is Megabytes of data, way too much 
to manually transcribe.


Brian Kelly

On 12-Apr.-20 10:53 p.m., Christopher Seward Sr. wrote:
I know this has been a while, but confusion still abounds. Within 
Legacy, there is a place to manually enter DNA results into a person's 
record.  The only problem is that the available fields do not match the 
data.  You state that the only thing we can do with DNA is attach the 
file in the Media gallery.  Why is there a place to enter the DNA 
results, if we can't enter the DNA results?  Anyone have a clue about this?


Thanks!

Christopher


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

[Christopher Seward Sr.]

I know this has been a while, but confusion still abounds. Within 
Legacy, there is a place to manually enter DNA results into a person's 
record.  The only problem is that the available fields do not match the 
data.  You state that the only thing we can do with DNA is attach the 
file in the Media gallery.  Why is there a place to enter the DNA 
results, if we can't enter the DNA results?  Anyone have a clue about this?


Thanks!

Christopher

On 5/22/2019 2:06 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:
The only thing you can do with your raw DNA in regard to Legacy is to 
attach the file in the person’s Media Gallery.


On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 14:52 Robert O. LaBonte Sr. via 
LegacyUserGroup > wrote:


Hello, I received my DNA results from Ancestry.com. I have the
Deluxe version at Legacy 9. My problem is I downloaded my Raw DNA
to a notebook. I would like to know how to apply this to my Legacy
Family Tree? Somebody please help me.

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[LegacyUG] DNA interpretation - for Legacy users in Melbourne, Australia

[Ian Thomas]

This is off the Legacy Family Tree software topic, but may be of interest to 
those who can attend (the University of Melbourne may video record, but I am 
not sure) –

Genetics and Geography: Using Genomic Data and Mathematical Models to Infer 
Population History and 
Demography
Friday 30 Aug 2019
6:00 pm - 7:00 pm
[https://gallery.mailchimp.com/67e9f3eee9787324ce472c2c2/images/96ea48f6-d645-4a6b-9217-b98063df9a21.jpg]
Behrend Memorial Lecture in Mathematics
Genetic differences between and within populations can tell us a lot about the 
historical movements of people around the world. In this lecture, Associate 
Professor Stephen Leslie will present his work on learning about human 
population history from DNA data. He will present some of the findings from the 
People of the British Isles project, relating to UK population history, and 
some more recent work following on from this study.

Presenter: Associate Professor Stephen Leslie

Regards, Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dna

[magnoliasouth]

Fair warning. Gedmatch comes with a good size learning curve. I just
wanted to warn. I have used it for years and I still don't understand
how to use it very well. I just can't remember like I used to. lol!

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 9:14 AM linda dean  wrote:
>
> There are several 3rd party sites to help you analyze your DNA raw data.  I 
> think a good place for you to start would be Gedmatch.com where you see how 
> others compare to your DNA, from several companies.  Good Luck.
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 8:46 AM Michele Lewis  
> wrote:
>>
>> Legacy is not set up to interface with other DNA. You need to use the 
>> testing company that you used and any other places that you uploaded your 
>> raw DNA to and work off of your match list there. You can keep your results 
>> in Legacy by using events and/or hashtags.   Are use a combination of both.
>>
>> Michele
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:34 Robert O. LaBonte Sr. via LegacyUserGroup 
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I downloaded my raw DNA from Ancestry.com, and wanted to add it to my 
>>> Deluxe Legacy 9 so I could find some matches to my tree. I was told to put 
>>> it in my Media section. Well I did but now what do I do with it? Does any 
>>> of my fellow members know how to make it so I can use my DNA with my family 
>>> tree and maybe find some of my relatives to add to my tree?
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Dna

[linda dean]

There are several 3rd party sites to help you analyze your DNA raw data.  I
think a good place for you to start would be Gedmatch.com where you see how
others compare to your DNA, from several companies.  Good Luck.

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 8:46 AM Michele Lewis 
wrote:

> Legacy is not set up to interface with other DNA. You need to use the
> testing company that you used and any other places that you uploaded your
> raw DNA to and work off of your match list there. You can keep your results
> in Legacy by using events and/or hashtags.   Are use a combination of both.
>
> Michele
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:34 Robert O. LaBonte Sr. via LegacyUserGroup <
> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>
>> I downloaded my raw DNA from Ancestry.com, and wanted to add it to my
>> Deluxe Legacy 9 so I could find some matches to my tree. I was told to put
>> it in my Media section. Well I did but now what do I do with it? Does any
>> of my fellow members know how to make it so I can use my DNA with my family
>> tree and maybe find some of my relatives to add to my tree?
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Dna

[Michele Lewis]

Legacy is not set up to interface with other DNA. You need to use the
testing company that you used and any other places that you uploaded your
raw DNA to and work off of your match list there. You can keep your results
in Legacy by using events and/or hashtags.   Are use a combination of both.

Michele


On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:34 Robert O. LaBonte Sr. via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> I downloaded my raw DNA from Ancestry.com, and wanted to add it to my
> Deluxe Legacy 9 so I could find some matches to my tree. I was told to put
> it in my Media section. Well I did but now what do I do with it? Does any
> of my fellow members know how to make it so I can use my DNA with my family
> tree and maybe find some of my relatives to add to my tree?
>
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[LegacyUG] Dna

[Robert O. LaBonte Sr. via LegacyUserGroup]

I downloaded my raw DNA from Ancestry.com, and wanted to add it to my Deluxe 
Legacy 9 so I could find some matches to my tree. I was told to put it in my 
Media section. Well I did but now what do I do with it? Does any of my fellow 
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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA

[Michele Lewis]

The only thing you can do with your raw DNA in regard to Legacy is to
attach the file in the person’s Media Gallery.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 14:52 Robert O. LaBonte Sr. via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> Hello, I received my DNA results from Ancestry.com. I have the Deluxe
> version at Legacy 9. My problem is I downloaded my Raw DNA to a notebook. I
> would like to know how to apply this to my Legacy Family Tree? Somebody
> please help me.
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[LegacyUG] DNA

[Robert O. LaBonte Sr. via LegacyUserGroup]

Hello, I received my DNA results from Ancestry.com. I have the Deluxe version 
at Legacy 9. My problem is I downloaded my Raw DNA to a notebook. I would like 
to know how to apply this to my Legacy Family Tree? Somebody please help me.
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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Haplogroup

[Gmail]

This is what I have done!

Georges

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Objet : [LegacyUG] DNA Haplogroup

How do people record the DNA Haplogroup. Could it be set up as an event

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[LegacyUG] DNA Haplogroup

[Alexander Payne]

How do people record the DNA Haplogroup. Could it be set up as an event

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[LegacyUG] DNA Center

[Michele Lewis]

The DNA Center is NOT in the new v9 beta. It is slated for the first v10
beta.

 

 

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www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Tests

[Michele/Support]

The little sneakers changed their web address completely!  Here is the correct 
link

 

http://getgmp.com/ 

 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

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 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Marli Yoder
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:14 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Tests

 

Michelle, the link for genome mate needs a www in front of it??? I got there, 
but your link couldn't be found. 

Marli Yoder

A & M Farms 2173 LLC

Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri

 

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:33 PM Marli Yoder <yosbutter...@gmail.com 
<mailto:yosbutter...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thank you for the help 

Marli Yoder

A & M Farms 2173 LLC

Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri

 

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Michele/Support <mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
<mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> > wrote:

Autosomal DNA is not reported in the same way as yDNA or mtDNA (mitochondrial) 
are.  yDNA and mtDNA results are easy to enter because they have values 
attached to specific fields so Legacy provides a place to enter this 
information.  Autosomal is different.  If you download your raw data you will 
see a text file approx 8MB in size with thousands of values.

 

Most people create DNA events to record their DNA info.  You can add the 
testing company, the date tested, the kit number (if applicable) the GEDmatch 
number (if applicable) and any other notes.  You can screenshot your ethnicity 
percentages and attach that to the event media gallery.  Be aware though that 
your ethnicity percentages will change from time to time as the companies run 
their algorithms against additional reference samples. 

 

You can also use tagging and/or Hashtags to keep track of your DNA (I use 
Hashtags).

 

Legacy's main purpose is not DNA tracking.  For that you need to use the 
Chromosome browsers that are built into 23andMe and FTDNA (two of the companies 
that offer chromosome browsers).  Ancestry.com, MyHeritage and LivingDNA do not 
have chromosome browsers so it is a bit harder there. You can also use the free 
program Genome Mate Pro https://genomemate.org/ which is an advanced chromosome 
browser and you can also upload your raw data to the GEDmatch website 
https://www.gedmatch.com

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Marli Yoder
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:03 PM
To: Legacy Users Group <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Tests

 

I have V.9, latest build. Question is how do I add the test results from My 
Heritage DNA test.? Looked at the list under the DNA symbol, and did not see 
the one I took. (Manage two other tests from them also).

 

I also did family tree DNA (not finished yet) on my self and two other family 
members. 

 

Will be doing Ancestry as well on some of my family.  

 

Am I missing a step? I downloaded the results from My Heritage . Unzipped 
them.. now what? 

(Good to know it shows my great-aunt and I really are related :) )

 

Marli Yoder

A & M Farms 2173 LLC

Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Tests

[Marli Yoder]

Michelle, the link for genome mate needs a www in front of it??? I got
there, but your link couldn't be found.
Marli Yoder
A & M Farms 2173 LLC
Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:33 PM Marli Yoder <yosbutter...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the help
> Marli Yoder
> A & M Farms 2173 LLC
> Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Michele/Support <
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
>
>> Autosomal DNA is not reported in the same way as yDNA or mtDNA
>> (mitochondrial) are.  yDNA and mtDNA results are easy to enter because they
>> have values attached to specific fields so Legacy provides a place to enter
>> this information.  Autosomal is different.  If you download your raw data
>> you will see a text file approx 8MB in size with thousands of values.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most people create DNA events to record their DNA info.  You can add the
>> testing company, the date tested, the kit number (if applicable) the
>> GEDmatch number (if applicable) and any other notes.  You can screenshot
>> your ethnicity percentages and attach that to the event media gallery.  Be
>> aware though that your ethnicity percentages will change from time to time
>> as the companies run their algorithms against additional reference samples.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can also use tagging and/or Hashtags to keep track of your DNA (I use
>> Hashtags).
>>
>>
>>
>> Legacy's main purpose is not DNA tracking.  For that you need to use the
>> Chromosome browsers that are built into 23andMe and FTDNA (two of the
>> companies that offer chromosome browsers).  Ancestry.com, MyHeritage and
>> LivingDNA do not have chromosome browsers so it is a bit harder there. You
>> can also use the free program Genome Mate Pro https://genomemate.org/
>> which is an advanced chromosome browser and you can also upload your raw
>> data to the GEDmatch website https://www.gedmatch.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>>
>> Legacy Family Tree
>>
>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is
>> a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under
>> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Marli Yoder
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 12:03 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Users Group <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] DNA Tests
>>
>>
>>
>> I have V.9, latest build. Question is how do I add the test results from
>> My Heritage DNA test.? Looked at the list under the DNA symbol, and did not
>> see the one I took. (Manage two other tests from them also).
>>
>>
>>
>> I also did family tree DNA (not finished yet) on my self and two other
>> family members.
>>
>>
>>
>> Will be doing Ancestry as well on some of my family.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I missing a step? I downloaded the results from My Heritage . Unzipped
>> them.. now what?
>>
>> (Good to know it shows my great-aunt and I really are related :) )
>>
>>
>>
>> Marli Yoder
>>
>> A & M Farms 2173 LLC
>>
>> Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Tests

[Marli Yoder]

Thank you for the help
Marli Yoder
A & M Farms 2173 LLC
Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> Autosomal DNA is not reported in the same way as yDNA or mtDNA
> (mitochondrial) are.  yDNA and mtDNA results are easy to enter because they
> have values attached to specific fields so Legacy provides a place to enter
> this information.  Autosomal is different.  If you download your raw data
> you will see a text file approx 8MB in size with thousands of values.
>
>
>
> Most people create DNA events to record their DNA info.  You can add the
> testing company, the date tested, the kit number (if applicable) the
> GEDmatch number (if applicable) and any other notes.  You can screenshot
> your ethnicity percentages and attach that to the event media gallery.  Be
> aware though that your ethnicity percentages will change from time to time
> as the companies run their algorithms against additional reference samples.
>
>
>
> You can also use tagging and/or Hashtags to keep track of your DNA (I use
> Hashtags).
>
>
>
> Legacy's main purpose is not DNA tracking.  For that you need to use the
> Chromosome browsers that are built into 23andMe and FTDNA (two of the
> companies that offer chromosome browsers).  Ancestry.com, MyHeritage and
> LivingDNA do not have chromosome browsers so it is a bit harder there. You
> can also use the free program Genome Mate Pro https://genomemate.org/
> which is an advanced chromosome browser and you can also upload your raw
> data to the GEDmatch website https://www.gedmatch.com
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
>
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is
> a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Marli Yoder
> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 12:03 PM
> *To:* Legacy Users Group <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] DNA Tests
>
>
>
> I have V.9, latest build. Question is how do I add the test results from
> My Heritage DNA test.? Looked at the list under the DNA symbol, and did not
> see the one I took. (Manage two other tests from them also).
>
>
>
> I also did family tree DNA (not finished yet) on my self and two other
> family members.
>
>
>
> Will be doing Ancestry as well on some of my family.
>
>
>
> Am I missing a step? I downloaded the results from My Heritage . Unzipped
> them.. now what?
>
> (Good to know it shows my great-aunt and I really are related :) )
>
>
>
> Marli Yoder
>
> A & M Farms 2173 LLC
>
> Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Tests

[Michele/Support]

Autosomal DNA is not reported in the same way as yDNA or mtDNA (mitochondrial) 
are.  yDNA and mtDNA results are easy to enter because they have values 
attached to specific fields so Legacy provides a place to enter this 
information.  Autosomal is different.  If you download your raw data you will 
see a text file approx 8MB in size with thousands of values.

 

Most people create DNA events to record their DNA info.  You can add the 
testing company, the date tested, the kit number (if applicable) the GEDmatch 
number (if applicable) and any other notes.  You can screenshot your ethnicity 
percentages and attach that to the event media gallery.  Be aware though that 
your ethnicity percentages will change from time to time as the companies run 
their algorithms against additional reference samples. 

 

You can also use tagging and/or Hashtags to keep track of your DNA (I use 
Hashtags).

 

Legacy's main purpose is not DNA tracking.  For that you need to use the 
Chromosome browsers that are built into 23andMe and FTDNA (two of the companies 
that offer chromosome browsers).  Ancestry.com, MyHeritage and LivingDNA do not 
have chromosome browsers so it is a bit harder there. You can also use the free 
program Genome Mate Pro https://genomemate.org/ which is an advanced chromosome 
browser and you can also upload your raw data to the GEDmatch website 
https://www.gedmatch.com

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>  

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>   

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Marli Yoder
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:03 PM
To: Legacy Users Group <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Tests

 

I have V.9, latest build. Question is how do I add the test results from My 
Heritage DNA test.? Looked at the list under the DNA symbol, and did not see 
the one I took. (Manage two other tests from them also).

 

I also did family tree DNA (not finished yet) on my self and two other family 
members. 

 

Will be doing Ancestry as well on some of my family.  

 

Am I missing a step? I downloaded the results from My Heritage . Unzipped 
them.. now what? 

(Good to know it shows my great-aunt and I really are related :) )

 

Marli Yoder

A & M Farms 2173 LLC

Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri

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[LegacyUG] DNA Tests

[Marli Yoder]

I have V.9, latest build. Question is how do I add the test results from My
Heritage DNA test.? Looked at the list under the DNA symbol, and did not
see the one I took. (Manage two other tests from them also).

I also did family tree DNA (not finished yet) on my self and two other
family members.

Will be doing Ancestry as well on some of my family.

Am I missing a step? I downloaded the results from My Heritage . Unzipped
them.. now what?
(Good to know it shows my great-aunt and I really are related :) )

Marli Yoder
A & M Farms 2173 LLC
Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri
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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA and Genealogy

[Carrie Pillow]

Hi 

Even though I agree DNA is not an easy option, if I had not taken the leap
after Geoff's webinar, I would not have proved who my great grandfather was,
as no document trail would have helped

Regards

Carrie Pillow

 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: 27 November 2016 23:22
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA and Genealogy

Sorry John Bernacki, I cannot agree. I have had my DNA done and also several
cousins have too. Though the efforts of 4 of us we could verify and document
a new GGG Grandfather.
They knew enough that helped me go to microfilm and locate deed records
showing the sale of land that tied the family together. IF you want to find
new lines, you try all tools.
Leonard



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972-254-7952
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posterity who never look backward to their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

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-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:10 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding 23and Me DNA results to Legacy?

I recently had my DNA tested via the Genographic Project.
They use Y-DNA,
Mt-DNA and autosomal DNA to determine your Haplogroups and regional
ancestry, which is what I wanted.

If you want to try to find relatives, you can, free of charge, transfer your
results to FamilyTreeDNA, and use their program for that purpose. I did not
take that step because it would be a waste of time.

Frankly, I am disgusted by all the companies misleading people about how
useful or easy DNA is for finding relatives. Autosomal DNA only works for
the few most recent generations, and that information would be much more
easily found using traditional genealogy practices. Even if you find a
possible relative by using DNA, you still need to use traditional geology to
confirm it.

In Legacy there is no specified field for adding your Haplogroups and
regional ancestry, although you could put it general notes etc.

John


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA and Genealogy

[Gerry Henningsen]

Another thought about DNA analyses is this: having multiple DNA results from
selected relatives can substantially improve one's ability to evaluate
matching DNA sequences as being real or false - especially for more distant
relatives with weaker matches; multiple DNA results for paternal or maternal
lineages can add weight of evidence to make more confident accurate
conclusions about genetic relationships, compared to only a single
individual's DNA results.

Gerry Henningsen

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:22 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA and Genealogy

Sorry John Bernacki, I cannot agree. I have had my DNA done and also several
cousins have too. Though the efforts of 4 of us we could verify and document
a new GGG Grandfather.
They knew enough that helped me go to microfilm and locate deed records
showing the sale of land that tied the family together. IF you want to find
new lines, you try all tools.
Leonard



_

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217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903
972-254-7952
leon...@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org People will not look forward to
posterity who never look backward to their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

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-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:10 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding 23and Me DNA results to Legacy?

I recently had my DNA tested via the Genographic Project.
They use Y-DNA,
Mt-DNA and autosomal DNA to determine your Haplogroups and regional
ancestry, which is what I wanted.

If you want to try to find relatives, you can, free of charge, transfer your
results to FamilyTreeDNA, and use their program for that purpose. I did not
take that step because it would be a waste of time.

Frankly, I am disgusted by all the companies misleading people about how
useful or easy DNA is for finding relatives. Autosomal DNA only works for
the few most recent generations, and that information would be much more
easily found using traditional genealogy practices. Even if you find a
possible relative by using DNA, you still need to use traditional geology to
confirm it.

In Legacy there is no specified field for adding your Haplogroups and
regional ancestry, although you could put it general notes etc.

John


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA and Genealogy

[Steve Hayes]

On 27 Nov 2016 at 19:53, Ian Macaulay wrote:

> I only did my YDNA and have had all kinds of results.  Found relations and
> then the connections via paper trail. Its been a positive experience.  I also
> did my Brother in Law's.  Also a positive experience, His has only brought a
> couple of "hits" but still a great experience.  Of course its hard to match
> when no one else in your group gets tested, and it is like fishing,   Perhaps
> you have to have a genetic leaning to get tested to get out and get tested.

And money. Don't forget the money. 

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA and Genealogy

[Ian Macaulay]

I only did my YDNA and have had all kinds of results.  Found relations and
then the connections via paper trail.
Its been a positive experience.  I also did my Brother in Law's.  Also a
positive experience, His has only brought a couple of "hits" but still a
great experience.  Of course its hard to match when no one else in your
group gets tested, and it is like fishing,   Perhaps you have to have a
genetic leaning to get tested to get out and get tested.

Ian

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Leonard J. McCown 
wrote:

> Sorry John Bernacki, I cannot agree. I have had my DNA done
> and also several cousins have too. Though the efforts of 4
> of us we could verify and document a new GGG Grandfather.
> They knew enough that helped me go to microfilm and locate
> deed records showing the sale of land that tied the family
> together. IF you want to find new lines, you try all tools.
> Leonard
>
>
> 
> _
>
> Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History
> 217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903
> 972-254-7952
> leon...@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org
> People will not look forward to posterity who never look
> backward to
> their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790
> 
> _
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup
> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf
> Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:10 PM
> To: 'Legacy User Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding 23and Me DNA results to
> Legacy?
>
> I recently had my DNA tested via the Genographic Project.
> They use Y-DNA,
> Mt-DNA and autosomal DNA to determine your Haplogroups and
> regional
> ancestry, which is what I wanted.
>
> If you want to try to find relatives, you can, free of
> charge, transfer your
> results to FamilyTreeDNA, and use their program for that
> purpose. I did not
> take that step because it would be a waste of time.
>
> Frankly, I am disgusted by all the companies misleading
> people about how
> useful or easy DNA is for finding relatives. Autosomal DNA
> only works for
> the few most recent generations, and that information would
> be much more
> easily found using traditional genealogy practices. Even if
> you find a
> possible relative by using DNA, you still need to use
> traditional geology to
> confirm it.
>
> In Legacy there is no specified field for adding your
> Haplogroups and
> regional ancestry, although you could put it general notes
> etc.
>
> John
>
>
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[LegacyUG] DNA and Genealogy

[Leonard J. McCown]

Sorry John Bernacki, I cannot agree. I have had my DNA done
and also several cousins have too. Though the efforts of 4
of us we could verify and document a new GGG Grandfather.
They knew enough that helped me go to microfilm and locate
deed records showing the sale of land that tied the family
together. IF you want to find new lines, you try all tools.
Leonard



_

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History
217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903
972-254-7952
leon...@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org
People will not look forward to posterity who never look
backward to
their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_



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From: LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf
Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:10 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding 23and Me DNA results to
Legacy?

I recently had my DNA tested via the Genographic Project.
They use Y-DNA, 
Mt-DNA and autosomal DNA to determine your Haplogroups and
regional 
ancestry, which is what I wanted.

If you want to try to find relatives, you can, free of
charge, transfer your 
results to FamilyTreeDNA, and use their program for that
purpose. I did not 
take that step because it would be a waste of time.

Frankly, I am disgusted by all the companies misleading
people about how 
useful or easy DNA is for finding relatives. Autosomal DNA
only works for 
the few most recent generations, and that information would
be much more 
easily found using traditional genealogy practices. Even if
you find a 
possible relative by using DNA, you still need to use
traditional geology to 
confirm it.

In Legacy there is no specified field for adding your
Haplogroups and 
regional ancestry, although you could put it general notes
etc.

John


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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[alan]

I am sorry to hear some people have complained as I thought this was a very interesting topic and much better than some of the other debates. Sometimes you have to get off topic to understand the topic at hand. The off topic discussion made me think about the possibilities of Legacy and DNA.It actually sparked several Legacy questions.My next questions on the topic where what tests were supported in Legacy and what tests where not (I seem to remember Legacy did not support several tests people wanted)?Then the next Legacy question was does Legacy help you interpret the tests? So you get DNA for several people, put it into Legacy for easy comparison, and help with some sort of "relationship level/likelihood".I have never done DNA, but wonder how it would play out with Legacy.To make this even more on topic I have been very reluctant to upgrade to Legacy version 8 as opposed to staying with 7.5. I did not see some of the new stuff really that special. The DNA answers about Legacy might make me more interested in upgrading.


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing
From: "Sherry/Support" she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Tue, March 17, 2015 3:04 pm
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

I've received complaints about this thread not being on the topic of Legacy and add-on programs.Please put a stop to this thread. It's gone beyond using Legacy with DNA testing.From the Legacy User Group Etiquette site (linked to at the bottom of very message)2. Stay on the topic of Legacy and its add-on programs, which is the sole purpose of the LUG User Group.There are plenty of Rootsweb, Yahoo and other groups which discuss DNA testing.Thanks,Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree  On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:40 PM, britton...@comcast.net wrote:Charani,  Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing - Topic stopped

[Kay Berg]

I think it is a shame someone felt it necessary to complain about this
topic. We all learn more from passionate debate, as long as the debaters
don't descend into name-calling and generally being rude.  I believe a good
argument can be made about the relevance of this topic to the use of our
Legacy software.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Charani phoenixantis...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17/03/2015 20:04, Sherry/Support wrote:
  I've received complaints about this thread not being on the topic of
 Legacy
  and add-on programs.
 
  Please put a stop to this thread.  It's gone beyond using Legacy with DNA
  testing.

 Apologies.

 An opinion was sought and I gave mine which is seems I shouldn't have.

 I won't worry this list again.

 Bye

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing - Topic stopped

[Charani]

On 17/03/2015 20:04, Sherry/Support wrote:
 I've received complaints about this thread not being on the topic of Legacy
 and add-on programs.

 Please put a stop to this thread.  It's gone beyond using Legacy with DNA
 testing.

Apologies.

An opinion was sought and I gave mine which is seems I shouldn't have.

I won't worry this list again.

Bye

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing - Topic stopped

[Sherry/Support]

The Legacy rules are clear that this list is for discussion of Legacy
and the Add-On topics.

The list can be very busy at times and the person who complained had
not interest in the topic and was getting frustrated with having to
delete all the emails the thread generated.

There are plenty of lists for discussing DNA in general.

Had the discussion been about recording DNA tests in Legacy, that
would have been appropriate.



Sincerely,
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Kay Berg kayberg2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it is a shame someone felt it necessary to complain about this topic. 
 We all learn more from passionate debate, as long as the debaters don't 
 descend into name-calling and generally being rude.  I believe a good 
 argument can be made about the relevance of this topic to the use of our 
 Legacy software.

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Charani phoenixantis...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17/03/2015 20:04, Sherry/Support wrote:
  I've received complaints about this thread not being on the topic of Legacy
  and add-on programs.
 
  Please put a stop to this thread.  It's gone beyond using Legacy with DNA
  testing.

 Apologies.

 An opinion was sought and I gave mine which is seems I shouldn't have.

 I won't worry this list again.

 Bye

 --
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 Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[alan]

Dee,I did not see a video on DNA at the Rootstech.org website, do you have a more direct link?I have wanted to compare the various services between 23andme, Ancestry, Family Tree DNA, etc. I used to hear great things about 23andme but it was a long time ago so not sure if they have fallen behind or not.


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing
From: Dee deema...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, March 16, 2015 10:53 am
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Rootstech.org has a great video for free on DNA. She compares the companies, too.On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote:I have confirmed several lines are connected and found several brick walls are NO connection at all.This is using the Y DNA test from https://www.familytreedna.com/ Thanks,David C AbernathyEmail disclaimersThis message represents the official view of the voices in my head.http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com== All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus ==From: adam allan [mailto:adam.s.al...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 7:20 AMTo: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: [LegacyUG] DNA testingWas wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com is offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.Adam.Sent from Windows MailLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.comFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp   Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp   Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Charani]

On 17/03/2015 19:40, britton...@comcast.net wrote:
 DNA certainly can be infallible evidence. You've forgotten that it can be 
 exclusionary.

I haven't forgotten anything and DNA is fallible.

I certainly wouldn't junk 50 (fifty) years research just because
someone with a financial interest in trying to prove my research was
wrong so they could sell me more tests that also wouldn't prove
anything.

I know where my family came from, I don't need to waste £100+ for a
third party to tell me.

I have a line that goes back to about 1590 in Somerset.  I also have a
line that goes back to around 1360 in the Chiltern area.  That is an
interesting line because it was always believed to connect to a family
in Sussex which connections to royalty.  Did it? Nooo.  They were a
Cornish family with no firm evidence of a connection to the Sussex one
at all.  There was no DNA involved in that, just good and careful
research.

 You don't always get much for money spent on DNA testing...

More a case of not getting anything for money wasted on DNA testing in
my book.

Where DNA can sometimes be useful is where there's a 100 or 150 year
old murder and physical evidence is still extant, something of an
achievement in itself.  The murder is believed to be X but the
physical evidence, when the DNA is analysed, says it doesn't match. X
is therefore innocent and the offender is Y against whom no action can
be taken because s/he has long since passed from this mortal coil.

My husband and I have three daughters.  The eldest is very like me.
The younger two are carbon copies of each other.  Not too surprising
except they aren't full blood siblings.  The eldest two are step
sisters to the youngest and there is absolutely NO connection between
the two families.  I don't need DNA to tell me there isn't.  I already
know there isn't.

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[brittongen]

Charani,

DNA certainly can be infallible evidence. You've forgotten that it can be 
exclusionary. In my case, I spent 5 years or more studying the Brittons of 
Bitton to find a link to my brick wall in the adjacent parish of Kelston. One 
glance at the first 16 STR markers that I received, and I junked all that work. 
They were R1b and I was R1a, so we parted company many thousands of years ago.

I was already back to about 1500 in Somerset, so further conventional progress 
would have to be via heraldry and old documents. That's a bit of a lottery, 
probabilities and not infallible, so not too different from inclusionary DNA 
for the Genealogical Time domain. DNA did offer, though, a potential means to 
rigorously test more conventional findings. The Brittons of the Bristol area 
seem likely to be Bretons, displaced to Brittany in the Dark Ages and returning 
at 1066. My DNA arrival has been assigned to the same event, but as 
mercenaries, not real helpful and fairly expensive in testing. Another test, 
reported just a couple of weeks back, trippled the cost, but found a cousin and 
illuminated deeper history. It now seems likely that our joint ancestor arrived 
with the Romans, presumably as an auxiliary. I emailed my new cousin; he, of 
course, did not reply. You don't always get much for money spent on DNA 
testing...


Adam,

My reply to Charani gives a sense of the scope and utility of DNA to genealogy, 
so is relevant to possible Legacy support of such data. Specific DNA testing 
questions are better on a DNA list or forum. If you email me off list with 
whatever you know of your haplogroup and earliest ancestor, I'll try to help. 
Advice in this area is usually worthless or worse without knowing a lot about 
your situation and aims.

kb
- Original Message -

From: Charani phoenixantis...@gmail.com

On 16/03/2015 14:19, adam allan wrote:
 Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool.
 Ancestry.com is offering it and wanted some opinions on the
 technology, tks.

...DNA is not infallible evidence.

Charani (UK)
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Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Sherry/Support]

I've received complaints about this thread not being on the topic of Legacy
and add-on programs.

Please put a stop to this thread.  It's gone beyond using Legacy with DNA
testing.

From the Legacy User Group Etiquette site (linked to at the bottom of very
message)

2. Stay on the topic of Legacy and its add-on programs, which is the sole
purpose of the LUG User Group.

There are plenty of Rootsweb, Yahoo and other groups which discuss DNA
testing.

Thanks,



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

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Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com is 
offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Nancy]

I would use FTDNA or 23andme. You get to see the actual chromosome map with 
either of those.


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Nancy]

I would do autosomal first.

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:50 AM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com 
 wrote:

 I have confirmed several lines are connected and found several brick walls 
 are NO connection at all.
 This is using the Y DNA test from https://www.familytreedna.com/

 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy
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 From: adam allan [mailto:adam.s.al...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 7:20 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

 Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com is 
 offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Thomas Jay Kemp]

Go for the FamilyTree DNA testing: https://www.familytreedna.com/
Very effective.
They let you 'add in' your DNA test from Ancestry - so you get both sides
of the testing - so do both.

Very impressed with the practical results for genealogy research - we
confirmed an entirely new wing of the family - that linked from the
pre-records period - this would never have happened without this testing.

Even though there are few people with our surname - we were able to sort
out the surname into 5 completely different families. Only DNA has let us
accomplish this.

It's essential - do it.

Tom



On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Nancy wheat...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I would do autosomal first.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:50 AM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
 wrote:

 I have confirmed several lines are connected and found several brick walls
 are NO connection at all.

 This is using the Y DNA test from https://www.familytreedna.com/



 Thanks,

 David C Abernathy

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 adam.s.al...@hotmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 7:20 AM

 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] DNA testing



 Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com
 is offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.



 Adam.



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Dee]

This is the link for the DNA talk at Rootstech. It was easy to understand
and very well done. http://rootstech.org/video/4052965123001

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Dee deema...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rootstech.org has a great video for free on DNA. She compares the
 companies, too.

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David Abernathy 
 da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote:

 I have confirmed several lines are connected and found several brick
 walls are NO connection at all.

 This is using the Y DNA test from https://www.familytreedna.com/



 Thanks,

 David C Abernathy

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 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 7:20 AM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] DNA testing



 Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com
 is offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.



 Adam.



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Dee]

Rootstech.org has a great video for free on DNA. She compares the
companies, too.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
 wrote:

 I have confirmed several lines are connected and found several brick walls
 are NO connection at all.

 This is using the Y DNA test from https://www.familytreedna.com/



 Thanks,

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 Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com
 is offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.



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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[David Abernathy]

I have confirmed several lines are connected and found several brick walls are 
NO connection at all.

This is using the Y DNA test from https://www.familytreedna.com/



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From: adam allan [mailto:adam.s.al...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 7:20 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA testing



Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com is 
offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.



Adam.



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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Ann Barry]

Yes. I was able to confirm a line that had circumstantial evidence but I felt 
needed one more hard fact. However, unless you are willing to share your tree 
on Ancestry, you will not get full benefits. I pull out a barebones GedCom from 
Legacy and uploaded it to Ancestry and link it to my test. And I periodically 
update the Ancestry upload as I add more information into Legacy. I strongly 
advise keeping Legacy as the file you make changes to.



And my husband was able to connect with a lost side of his family.



Ann



From: adam allan [mailto:adam.s.al...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:20 AM
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Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com is 
offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.



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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[BARTON LEWIS]

Very worthwhile.  I recommend Family Tree DNA.  It's the same price as
Ancestry and they will probably have a sale on DNA Day - which I believe
is April 14.
 
Barton

 
 
 
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, adam allan wrote:
 
 


Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. Ancestry.com
is offering it and wanted some opinions on the technology, tks.


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing

[Wendy Howard]

Judy Russell, aka The Legal Genealogist
(http://www.legalgenealogist.com/), writes about DNA each Sunday (her
time, Monday for me). You may like to take a look at some of her
columns, they're well-written and easy to understand.

Late last year she ran a best of series, including this one on her DNA
posts through the year -
http://www.legalgenealogist.com/blog/2014/12/29/2014-top-posts-dna/

 From what I've read of this blog, you need to consider what you are
trying to determine from the testing, and who you're going to test,
before deciding which tests might be the best one for you.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

adam allan wrote on 17/03/2015 03:19:
 Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool.
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[LegacyUG] DNA Testing

[Jim]

 Ancestry.com is running a DNA special for $79. It is supposed to run both male 
and female lines. Has anyone used this and is it the best company to use? Not 
sure how much help it might be. They claim that it doesn't follow lines as far 
as others, but gives more relevant results. I have 3 trees on Ancestry and 
connecting with others that may be a match appeals to me.
Thanks
Jim Adkins “If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well 
enough.”                                                                        
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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Testing

[Jessica Morgan]

I have had two Ancestry DNA kits done on direct family. I'm still sketchy
on the results, and not utilizing them 100% at all. It doesn't come with a
whole plethora of laymen instructional terms. I don't know half of what the
site refers to. It takes research and time that I don't quite have right
now.

As for ease of use, Ancestry was very simple, got results timely, etc.

That being said, I also downloaded the DNA files from Ancestry and uploaded
them to Gedmatch. I have hundreds of hits on gedmatch, and as it referenced
both matches exactly as they are (grandfather and granddaughter) as far as
generational match, I'd say it is pretty accurate. Again, I have a hard
time reading the data, but the gedmatch info gives you email addresses to
other members you match and you can then correspond with them.

I have a cousin that did the 23andme.com DNA testing. It seems to have more
information medical wise and such. Again, I can't understand it all!

Jessica





On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jim glt...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Ancestry.com is running a DNA special for $79. It is supposed to run both
 male and female lines. Has anyone used this and is it the best company to
 use? Not sure how much help it might be. They claim that it doesn't follow
 lines as far as others, but gives more relevant results. I have 3 trees on
 Ancestry and connecting with others that may be a match appeals to me.
 Thanks
 Jim Adkins “If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well
 enough.”
 Albert Einstein


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Testing

[Sherry/Support]

There is a Yahoo group that's specifically for discussing DNA testing.

Check out  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DNA-NEWBIE/info

The LUG list is for discussing Legacy and really the only appropriate DNA
discussion would be how to enter your results in Legacy.



Sincerely,
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Jessica Morgan jrkmorg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I have had two Ancestry DNA kits done on direct family. I'm still sketchy
 on the results, and not utilizing them 100% at all. It doesn't come with a
 whole plethora of laymen instructional terms. I don't know half of what the
 site refers to. It takes research and time that I don't quite have right
 now.

 As for ease of use, Ancestry was very simple, got results timely, etc.

 That being said, I also downloaded the DNA files from Ancestry and
 uploaded them to Gedmatch. I have hundreds of hits on gedmatch, and as it
 referenced both matches exactly as they are (grandfather and granddaughter)
 as far as generational match, I'd say it is pretty accurate. Again, I have
 a hard time reading the data, but the gedmatch info gives you email
 addresses to other members you match and you can then correspond with them.

 I have a cousin that did the 23andme.com DNA testing. It seems to have
 more information medical wise and such. Again, I can't understand it all!

 Jessica





 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jim glt...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Ancestry.com is running a DNA special for $79. It is supposed to run
 both male and female lines. Has anyone used this and is it the best company
 to use? Not sure how much help it might be. They claim that it doesn't
 follow lines as far as others, but gives more relevant results. I have 3
 trees on Ancestry and connecting with others that may be a match appeals to
 me.
 Thanks
 Jim Adkins





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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Michele Lewis]

Thanks, Ron.  That's more along the lines of what I was looking for.

Michele

Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

With the DNA results in a table it should be possible (eventually) to have the 
program automatically query some of the online DNA databases without manually 
entering all the allele values for each search.  There are lots of other 
possibilities for having the DNA pattern stored in the database.  I believe 
that only one DNA test can be stored in the present Legacy file per person.  
It would be good if YDNA and mtDNA could be stored for multiple companies.  
Autosomal DNA is also beginning to be used and needs somewhere to be recorded.
Ron Taylor



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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results


I read Michele's query as being about how entering DNA results in her
Legacy database would be of assistance, not about doing DNA testing in
the first place.

Can anyone comment on that aspect?

Wendy



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[brittongen]

DNA results are important for genealogy research already, as noted earlier in 
this thread, but direct inclusion in Legacy is a can of worms for more reasons 
than it is appropriate to discuss in detail here.  Short form: Some DNA data 
files are enormous rather than huge, tests vary greatly, standards and 
nomenclature vary, companies and databases come and go, technology is rapidly 
changing... etc...etc.  That's impractical to program for and unreasonably 
demanding of file space.

For most present Legacy users, the program is a genealogy data recording and 
display tool being used with intent to pass something on to future generations. 
 It's certainly valuable to record existence of relevant DNA data, where it may 
be found, and what use has been made of it by the genealogy compiler.  That 
belongs in the basic program and is readily programmable.  Beyond that, there 
might be a case for a closely coupled utility having similar program impact to 
the geo database and tools, but a companion like that for charting would 
further de-link from primary program impact and could allow specialized and 
easily updated technical support.  Either approach might usefully bridge to a 
future integration with a future specialist partner, along the lines of that 
with Familysearch.

An important point not yet raised is the importance of preserving DNA from 
those dying off.  That's easy and cheap to do, though present testing companies 
require use of their own kits, treating amateur collected samples as special, 
with appropriate pricing if they accept them.  Millennia could certainly help 
here with an embedded explanation of how to preserve DNA and why that may be of 
importance to the future.

kb

- Original Message -
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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:53:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results



With the DNA results in a table it should be possible (eventually) to have the 
program automatically query some of the online DNA databases without manually 
entering all the allele values for each search. There are lots of other 
possibilities for having the DNA pattern stored in the database. I believe that 
only one DNA test can be stored in the present Legacy file per person. It would 
be good if YDNA and mtDNA could be stored for multiple companies. Autosomal DNA 
is also beginning to be used and needs somewhere to be recorded.
Ron Taylor










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[LegacyUG] DNA results

[Michele Lewis]

I have DNA results for a couple of people in my file.  I see how to add the
results, no problem.  My question is, how will it benefit me to add them?



Michele






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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Frank Fuqua]

Here's one DNA application.

I have documented my surname line down from my 7th Great-Grandfather
EXCEPT for one circumstantial link. I have no doubt whatsoever that the
link is correct, but how to prove it without resurrecting a burned
courthouse  all its records?

My DNA analysis, and that of the male descendants of two of my 6th
Great-Grandfather's brothers are identical. Therefore, we are all proven
biological descendants of our 7th Great-grandfather. In addition, we
have the bonus of having proven that in our three lines, there were no
father of record problems which become a researchers nightmare. The
other two lines have complete and solid documentation.

The DNA data have become important (if not critical) genealogical records.

Works for me.

Frank



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Robert57P_gmail]

For living people, we can send in a sample and get DNA results, but how
do you get DNA info on people that are no longer living?

On 07/03/2013 13:00, Frank Fuqua wrote:
 Here's one DNA application.

 I have documented my surname line down from my 7th Great-Grandfather
 EXCEPT for one circumstantial link. I have no doubt whatsoever that the
 link is correct, but how to prove it without resurrecting a burned
 courthouse  all its records?

 My DNA analysis, and that of the male descendants of two of my 6th
 Great-Grandfather's brothers are identical. Therefore, we are all proven
 biological descendants of our 7th Great-grandfather. In addition, we
 have the bonus of having proven that in our three lines, there were no
 father of record problems which become a researchers nightmare. The
 other two lines have complete and solid documentation.

 The DNA data have become important (if not critical) genealogical records.

 Works for me.

 Frank



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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Michele Lewis]

So do you fill in the same yDNA values for all of the direct line males?

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Frank Fuqua [mailto:confu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA results

Here's one DNA application.

I have documented my surname line down from my 7th Great-Grandfather EXCEPT for 
one circumstantial link. I have no doubt whatsoever that the link is correct, 
but how to prove it without resurrecting a burned courthouse  all its records?

My DNA analysis, and that of the male descendants of two of my 6th 
Great-Grandfather's brothers are identical. Therefore, we are all proven 
biological descendants of our 7th Great-grandfather. In addition, we have the 
bonus of having proven that in our three lines, there were no father of 
record problems which become a researchers nightmare. The other two lines have 
complete and solid documentation.

The DNA data have become important (if not critical) genealogical records.

Works for me.

Frank



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Jenny M Benson]

On 03/07/2013 18:06, Robert57P_gmail wrote:
 For living people, we can send in a sample and get DNA results, but how
 do you get DNA info on people that are no longer living?

For the most part you don't.  But you can get DNA from living people who
are possibly related and use the results to help prove or disprove the
link.  DNA will really only support good traditional genealogical
research, not replace it.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Frank Fuqua]

Jenny is correct. DNA analysis will not replace traditional (and
documented) genealogical research. However, it can prove good research
and disprove erroneous research. It can also uncover unexpected
situations such as father of record problems. Recording DNA records in
Legacy is just as valuable as recording any other kind of records.

Obtaining DNA from living people is easy (if they cooperate) and having
it analyzed is relatively inexpensive. Obtaining DNA from dead people is
possible, but rarely necessary for genealogical purposes.

This is not the proper forum for a detailed DNA discussion, but the
following comments may be useful.

Each male inherits his DNA from his father, and subsequently passes it
to his son(s). With rare exceptions, the DNA of all three individuals is
identical. This is true for as many father/son combinations as you can
string together. Thus, my 7th Great-Grandfather passed his DNA to his
four known sons. Each of them then passed their identical DNA to all of
their own sons, who passed it to their sons, etc., etc. until one of
those lines of descent manifested itself in me. All I had to do was find
living descendants from the other lines, and compare DNA with them.

I found living descendants of two of the three other lines. Their DNA
analysis, and mine, are identical. This means that all three of us
descend from a common ancestor (our 7th Great-Grandfather). A living
descendant of the fourth line advised me to stick the whole subject
where the sun doesn't shine. My conclusion was that he clearly has a
father of record problem in his gene pool, and we don't need him
anyway for our DNA purposes.

What is a father of record problem? Suppose you have a well documented
genealogy going back many generations. Suppose that somewhere in that
surname chain a married woman gave birth to a son. Her husband assumes
that he is the father of the child. All of the records and family
traditions say this is so. However, she didn't tell her husband that the
child was actually fathered by the farmer next door. Perhaps she didn't
even know for certain that this was true. The end result is a perfect
genealogical record which has been proven in the normal genealogical
sense. However, the truth is that the biological line of descendancy was
interrupted by the farmer next door, and all subsequent surname
descendants were HIS, not what the documented genealogy says.

So Store and protect those DNA records. Some day, when you least
expect it, they may turn out to be a critical piece of the puzzle.

Frank



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Wendy Howard]

I read Michele's query as being about how entering DNA results in her
Legacy database would be of assistance, not about doing DNA testing in
the first place.

Can anyone comment on that aspect?

Wendy



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Jenny M Benson]

On 03/07/2013 22:05, Wendy Howard wrote:
 I read Michele's query as being about how entering DNA results in her
 Legacy database would be of assistance, not about doing DNA testing in
 the first place.

 Can anyone comment on that aspect?

In just the same way, surely, as recording any other information is of
assistance.  We use Legacy (or any other genealogical program) because
we want to store data about numerous related individuals in an ordered,
searchable fashion.  A DNA test result is just an additional piece of
information about a person and that we want to keep a record of.

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Bobby Johnson]

Certainly DNA is a good research tool, but recording it in Legacy does not give 
you any additional tools.  It is just there and serves no other purpose.
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Frank Fuqua [mailto:confu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA results

Here's one DNA application.

I have documented my surname line down from my 7th Great-Grandfather EXCEPT for 
one circumstantial link. I have no doubt whatsoever that the link is correct, 
but how to prove it without resurrecting a burned courthouse  all its records?

My DNA analysis, and that of the male descendants of two of my 6th 
Great-Grandfather's brothers are identical. Therefore, we are all proven 
biological descendants of our 7th Great-grandfather. In addition, we have the 
bonus of having proven that in our three lines, there were no father of 
record problems which become a researchers nightmare. The other two lines have 
complete and solid documentation.

The DNA data have become important (if not critical) genealogical records.

Works for me.

Frank





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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Lee Bruch]

It's there as evidence along with other important evidence (evidence such as 
photos, records of birth, christening, marriage, immigration, death, family 
bibles, property records, etc.)
It's part of the total picture that genealogy attempts to provide.

 -Original Message-
 From: Bobby Johnson [mailto:b...@brmemc.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:48 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA results

 Certainly DNA is a good research tool, but recording it in Legacy does
 not give you any additional tools.  It is just there and serves no
 other purpose.
 Bobby





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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results

[Ron Taylor]

With the DNA results in a table it should be possible (eventually) to have the 
program automatically query some of the online DNA databases without manually 
entering all the allele values for each search.  There are lots of other 
possibilities for having the DNA pattern stored in the database.  I believe 
that only one DNA test can be stored in the present Legacy file per person.  It 
would be good if YDNA and mtDNA could be stored for multiple companies.  
Autosomal DNA is also beginning to be used and needs somewhere to be recorded.
Ron Taylor



 From: Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA results


I read Michele's query as being about how entering DNA results in her
Legacy database would be of assistance, not about doing DNA testing in
the first place.

Can anyone comment on that aspect?

Wendy



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[LegacyUG] DNA webinar recording now online for limited time

[Geoff Rasmussen]

The recording of today's webinar, The New Frontier in Genetic Genealogy:
Autosomal DNA Testing by Ugo Perego is now available to view in the
webinar archives for a limited time. Ugo first presented an overview of
where autosomal DNA fits into our genealogy research efforts and then
compared and contrasted the services of the four major autosomal testing
companies. If you are considering adding DNA research to your genealogy
toolbox, this webinar is well worth your time to view.

*View the Recording at FamilyTreeWebinars.com*

If you could not make it to the live event or just want to watch it again,
the 1 hour 34 minute recording of *The New Frontier in Genetic Genealogy:
Autosomal DNA Testing* is now available to view in our webinar archives for
free for the next 7 days. It is also available to our monthly or annual
Webinar Members for the duration of your membership. Visit
www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com http://www.familytreewebinars.com/ to watch.
Members also have access to the 4 pages of syllabus materials.


*Special Discount Coupon*

The special discount coupon of *dna3* that was announced during the webinar
is valid for 10% off anything at both
www.LegacyFamilyTreeStore.comhttp://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/
 and www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com http://www.familytreewebinars.com/ through
Monday, June 3, 2013.

*New - Webinar Memberships/Subscriptions*

Webinar Members get:

   - On-demand access to the entire webinar archives (now 164 hours of
   genealogy education)
   - On-demand access to the instructor handouts (now 437 pages)
   - 5% off all products at
www.FamilyTreeWebinars.comhttp://www.familytreewebinars.com/ (must
   be logged in at checkout, and yes, you can also use the 10% off webinar
   coupon above for a total of 15% off)
   - Access to all future recordings for the duration of their membership

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   - Annual membership: $49.95/year (that's about the cost of 5 webinar CDs)
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Click here to 
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.

Thanks,

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[LegacyUG] DNA Button

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

 ~~
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~~
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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[Oregon Rain]

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals 
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

 ~~
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~~
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http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

I understand the instructions and I know what the button looks like.  But my
information screen doesn't have a DNA button.  I'm using the Deluxe Version
7.5.0.191.  My Legacy Home page says I have the latest build.

 ~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
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http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Oregon Rain mey88...@webenet.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 1:37:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
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http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[Ron Ferguson]

Shirley,

It is still there on the Individual's Page, below the Options button. If it
is not there you may have a faulty installation and need to reinstall.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I understand the instructions and I know what the button looks like.  But my
information screen doesn't have a DNA button.  I'm using the Deluxe Version
7.5.0.191.  My Legacy Home page says I have the latest build.

~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Oregon Rain mey88...@webenet.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 1:37:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
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http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

Thank you.  I looked everywhere but the event buttons.  I see that 23andme isn't
listed as one of the available tests.  Oh well.

 ~~
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~~
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- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 2:53:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Shirley,

It is still there on the Individual's Page, below the Options button. If it
is not there you may have a faulty installation and need to reinstall.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I understand the instructions and I know what the button looks like.  But my
information screen doesn't have a DNA button.  I'm using the Deluxe Version
7.5.0.191.  My Legacy Home page says I have the latest build.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Oregon Rain mey88...@webenet.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 1:37:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
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http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[Ron Ferguson]

I think it's only for Y-DNA not atDNA nor mtDNA, Shirley, although I have
not checked.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Thank you.  I looked everywhere but the event buttons.  I see that 23andme
isn't
listed as one of the available tests.  Oh well.

~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 2:53:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Shirley,

It is still there on the Individual's Page, below the Options button. If it
is not there you may have a faulty installation and need to reinstall.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I understand the instructions and I know what the button looks like.  But my
information screen doesn't have a DNA button.  I'm using the Deluxe Version
7.5.0.191.  My Legacy Home page says I have the latest build.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Oregon Rain mey88...@webenet.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 1:37:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
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http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/





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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

Some of the sources include the mtDNA test.  I don't see any autosomal tests
listed.  The latter probably would not lend themselves to the format Legacy has
established.


If I don't enter a source, (e.g. when a cousin tells me their information, or
the source isn't listed) apparently I can't enter a haplogroup, which means I am
left with using an event rather than the DNA format.


~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 4:08:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I think it's only for Y-DNA not atDNA nor mtDNA, Shirley, although I have
not checked.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Thank you.  I looked everywhere but the event buttons.  I see that 23andme
isn't
listed as one of the available tests.  Oh well.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 2:53:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Shirley,

It is still there on the Individual's Page, below the Options button. If it
is not there you may have a faulty installation and need to reinstall.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I understand the instructions and I know what the button looks like.  But my
information screen doesn't have a DNA button.  I'm using the Deluxe Version
7.5.0.191.  My Legacy Home page says I have the latest build.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Oregon Rain mey88...@webenet.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 1:37:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
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http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/





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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[Ron Ferguson]

Shirley,

I think you are probably right about the reason for the absence of atDNA
results.

To be honest I have spent quite a bit of time looking at results of these,
and I am very dubious about the claims being made. The very small sections
of DNA being compared make me wonder just how predictive this test really
is. So I can readily understand why it's not an option in Legacy.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Some of the sources include the mtDNA test.  I don't see any autosomal tests
listed.  The latter probably would not lend themselves to the format Legacy
has
established.


If I don't enter a source, (e.g. when a cousin tells me their information,
or
the source isn't listed) apparently I can't enter a haplogroup, which means
I am
left with using an event rather than the DNA format.


~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 4:08:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I think it's only for Y-DNA not atDNA nor mtDNA, Shirley, although I have
not checked.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Thank you.  I looked everywhere but the event buttons.  I see that 23andme
isn't
listed as one of the available tests.  Oh well.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/

- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 2:53:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Shirley,

It is still there on the Individual's Page, below the Options button. If it
is not there you may have a faulty installation and need to reinstall.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I understand the instructions and I know what the button looks like.  But my
information screen doesn't have a DNA button.  I'm using the Deluxe Version
7.5.0.191.  My Legacy Home page says I have the latest build.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Oregon Rain mey88...@webenet.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 1:37:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/





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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

The atDNA can be useful in ruling out possible cousins, but to use it
meaningfully requires a lot of followup research.

~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 5:55:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Shirley,

I think you are probably right about the reason for the absence of atDNA
results.

To be honest I have spent quite a bit of time looking at results of these,
and I am very dubious about the claims being made. The very small sections
of DNA being compared make me wonder just how predictive this test really
is. So I can readily understand why it's not an option in Legacy.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Some of the sources include the mtDNA test.  I don't see any autosomal tests
listed.  The latter probably would not lend themselves to the format Legacy
has
established.


If I don't enter a source, (e.g. when a cousin tells me their information,
or
the source isn't listed) apparently I can't enter a haplogroup, which means
I am
left with using an event rather than the DNA format.


~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 4:08:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I think it's only for Y-DNA not atDNA nor mtDNA, Shirley, although I have
not checked.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Thank you.  I looked everywhere but the event buttons.  I see that 23andme
isn't
listed as one of the available tests.  Oh well.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/

- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 2:53:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

Shirley,

It is still there on the Individual's Page, below the Options button. If it
is not there you may have a faulty installation and need to reinstall.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I understand the instructions and I know what the button looks like.  But my
information screen doesn't have a DNA button.  I'm using the Deluxe Version
7.5.0.191.  My Legacy Home page says I have the latest build.

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/



- Original Message 
From: Oregon Rain mey88...@webenet.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 1:37:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

The DNA Records screen is reached by clicking the  button on an individuals
Information screen.

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON [mailto:yor...@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] DNA Button

I'm struggling to upgrade to 7.5.  I can't find the DNA button.  Did it
disappear?

~~
Shirley York Anderson  yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/





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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

[Mike Bridgeford]

Hi John,
You seem to be quite knowledgeable about DNA interpretation. I must say I have 
really battled to comprehend the significance of the various results.
We have a unique family name, Bridgeford/Bridgefoord, which through research 
has been centred around the Aberdeenshire areas of Scotland.
We have several Bridgeford family trees which we can't link up, as 
documentation is no longer available from the early days in Scotland.
In four of these trees, we have managed to find male descendants, and have had 
their DNA Y-chromosome tested, in a 46 marker test. The results are that two 
are related at MRCA 10 and MRCA 14 to my DNA markers. The third person is not 
related [here we presume that there is an illegitimacy somewhere and the name 
is carried through by the female link, and hence no DNA Y-chromosome match].

Is there some way we can determine at what point in time these trees converge, 
and at what accuracy. I believe that the MRCA 10 , for example, indicates that 
the convergence was 10 generation age. Is this correct? And what variance can 
be expected in terms of generations?

The other thing that really puzzles me, is that when viewing results from 
Ancestry.com, for example, there are many people with MCRA values of 3 or 4, 
and no apparent surname association. After intensive investigation from both 
sides, there is no apparent link at all. It seems almost impossible to believe 
that our forefathers sired that many illegitimate children on overseas visits!!!

Is there areas where the DNA matching is simply not true?

I would be most appreciative if you would be able to answer some of my 
questions, or perhaps put me in contact with someone who can.

Very Confused,

Mike Bridgeford
Plettenberg Bay
South Africa



-Original Message-
From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net]
Sent: 17 July 2011 07:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

  Richard,

MtDNA is not reported as a complete set.  Each DNA testing
company has different defined marker sets, but they all
compare those sets to the Cambridge Reference Sequence
(CRS), then report deviations from that sequence, not the
entire list, which would include 569 values (bases) for
HyperVariable Region 1 (HVR-1) and another 574 values for
HVR-2 (Note that some testing companies define a 3rd HVR
region, taking some values from the HVR-2 region and placing
them in that third area).  Personally I'm not at all
interested in entering 1143 values.  Instead I entered only
CRS in the HVR-1 column for myself, as my HVR-1 values did
not differ at all from the CRS values.  In HVR-2 I entered
only my five values that differed from the CRS.  Allowing
for 20 deviations from the CRS in each of the three
recognized regions seems sufficient.  I can't speak for the
rest of the Legacy user base, but I think it doubtful any of
them would vary from the CRS by anything close to 20 values
in each of the three HVR columns.

As for the values for each entry field, typically an mtDNA
value is a 4-digit entry.  That is three digits for the base
location, plus a letter signifying the specific component
(adenine, guanine, cytosine or thymine, represented by A, G,
C or T).  For example, if the CRS at location 195 is T, and
the person being tested has a component at 195 of C, then
the deviation would be reported as 195C.  It is possible
to have additional values (insertions) at a given location.
In that case they would be reported using the base location
(for example 195C) with the addition of a decimal and a
number.  For example 195.1C.  Two insertions would be
reported as 195.1C and 195.2T.  Deletions (missing base
location values) are also possible.  In such cases the
missing location is reported as a number followed by a minus
sign.  For example 195-.  Using those notational standards
it is highly unlikely that any give value would exceed 7
digits, so 10 is more than adequate.

Regards,

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 7/17/2011 7:46 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 You can't input your complete mtDNA in v.7.5.0.98 anyway.
 The template only goes up to 20 entries (of 10 letters) in each HVR.
 We'll all have to wait for the next update.



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

[hwedhlor]

 that many illegitimate children on 
 overseas visits!!!

 Is there areas where the DNA matching is simply not true?

 I would be most appreciative if you would be able to answer some of my 
 questions, or perhaps put me in contact with someone who can.

 Very Confused,

 Mike Bridgeford
 Plettenberg Bay
 South Africa



 -Original Message-
 From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net]
 Sent: 17 July 2011 07:10 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

Richard,

 MtDNA is not reported as a complete set.  Each DNA testing
 company has different defined marker sets, but they all
 compare those sets to the Cambridge Reference Sequence
 (CRS), then report deviations from that sequence, not the
 entire list, which would include 569 values (bases) for
 HyperVariable Region 1 (HVR-1) and another 574 values for
 HVR-2 (Note that some testing companies define a 3rd HVR
 region, taking some values from the HVR-2 region and placing
 them in that third area).  Personally I'm not at all
 interested in entering 1143 values.  Instead I entered only
 CRS in the HVR-1 column for myself, as my HVR-1 values did
 not differ at all from the CRS values.  In HVR-2 I entered
 only my five values that differed from the CRS.  Allowing
 for 20 deviations from the CRS in each of the three
 recognized regions seems sufficient.  I can't speak for the
 rest of the Legacy user base, but I think it doubtful any of
 them would vary from the CRS by anything close to 20 values
 in each of the three HVR columns.

 As for the values for each entry field, typically an mtDNA
 value is a 4-digit entry.  That is three digits for the base
 location, plus a letter signifying the specific component
 (adenine, guanine, cytosine or thymine, represented by A, G,
 C or T).  For example, if the CRS at location 195 is T, and
 the person being tested has a component at 195 of C, then
 the deviation would be reported as 195C.  It is possible
 to have additional values (insertions) at a given location.
 In that case they would be reported using the base location
 (for example 195C) with the addition of a decimal and a
 number.  For example 195.1C.  Two insertions would be
 reported as 195.1C and 195.2T.  Deletions (missing base
 location values) are also possible.  In such cases the
 missing location is reported as a number followed by a minus
 sign.  For example 195-.  Using those notational standards
 it is highly unlikely that any give value would exceed 7
 digits, so 10 is more than adequate.

 Regards,

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ

 On 7/17/2011 7:46 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 You can't input your complete mtDNA in v.7.5.0.98 anyway.
 The template only goes up to 20 entries (of 10 letters) in each HVR.
 We'll all have to wait for the next update.


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

[Sherry/Support]

Discussion about the intricacies of DNA testing is *way* off topic for
the LUG list.  I've been in DNA groups and know how complex DNA things
can be and how wordy DNA related messages can be and they make my head
swimg

Let's keep this to the topic of how to enter DNA in Legacy and print reports.

You don't need to know all about DNA to input the numbers in Legacy.



Here's a good group which discusses DNA for genealogy, sponsored by
The International Society of Genetic Genealogy (ISOGG)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNA-NEWBIE/


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM, hwedhlor hwedh...@cox.net wrote:
 Hi Mike,

snip
 Because Legacy has recently expanded its capability in recording DNA results
 I am going to take that as an opportunity to temporarily stretch the
 definition of the purpose of the LUG under the guise of helping us better
 use Legacy.  That stretch is based on the need to understand not only what
 is being


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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

[Kevin Long]

Thank you Sherry!  It is all very interesting, but I've got other things to 
do... lots of them!!!

Kevin Long

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

Discussion about the intricacies of DNA testing is *way* off topic for the LUG 
list.  I've been in DNA groups and know how complex DNA things can be and how 
wordy DNA related messages can be and they make my head swimg

Let's keep this to the topic of how to enter DNA in Legacy and print reports.

You don't need to know all about DNA to input the numbers in Legacy.



Here's a good group which discusses DNA for genealogy, sponsored by The 
International Society of Genetic Genealogy (ISOGG)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNA-NEWBIE/


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM, hwedhlor hwedh...@cox.net wrote:
 Hi Mike,

snip
 Because Legacy has recently expanded its capability in recording DNA
 results I am going to take that as an opportunity to temporarily
 stretch the definition of the purpose of the LUG under the guise of
 helping us better use Legacy.  That stretch is based on the need to
 understand not only what is being


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RE: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

[Gavin Nicholson]

I note that SMGF is not on the list of testing companies. That would be a handy 
addition. Or the ability to add extra markers to an existing standard test.



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[LegacyUG] DNA entry

[cranberryfrog]

I am totally new to the DNA thing.  I watched the Legacy Webinar on DNA (which 
was fascinating!).   If I enter DNA values on myself, will Legacy automatically 
transfer those values up the line or do I have to manually do it.  In the DNA 
Webinar, Ugo said that my mDNA would be identical to my mother’s which would be 
identical to her mother’s etc so I am thinking that those same values need to 
be inputted up the line.  Help?

michele

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

In the DNA
Webinar, Ugo said that my mDNA would be identical to my mother’s which would be
identical to her mother’s etc

Not quite true. I didn't watch the Webinar but Ugo should have mentioned
a little thing called mutations. Depending on the marker, you will see
a mutation every so many generations. If this didn't happen then
everyone would have the same mtDNA and there would be no point in
testing. ;-)

Same is true for Y-DNA.

[[ Probably getting off-topic at this point. ]]

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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA entry

[hwedhlor]

  Richard,

MtDNA is not reported as a complete set.  Each DNA testing
company has different defined marker sets, but they all
compare those sets to the Cambridge Reference Sequence
(CRS), then report deviations from that sequence, not the
entire list, which would include 569 values (bases) for
HyperVariable Region 1 (HVR-1) and another 574 values for
HVR-2 (Note that some testing companies define a 3rd HVR
region, taking some values from the HVR-2 region and placing
them in that third area).  Personally I'm not at all
interested in entering 1143 values.  Instead I entered only
CRS in the HVR-1 column for myself, as my HVR-1 values did
not differ at all from the CRS values.  In HVR-2 I entered
only my five values that differed from the CRS.  Allowing
for 20 deviations from the CRS in each of the three
recognized regions seems sufficient.  I can't speak for the
rest of the Legacy user base, but I think it doubtful any of
them would vary from the CRS by anything close to 20 values
in each of the three HVR columns.

As for the values for each entry field, typically an mtDNA
value is a 4-digit entry.  That is three digits for the base
location, plus a letter signifying the specific component
(adenine, guanine, cytosine or thymine, represented by A, G,
C or T).  For example, if the CRS at location 195 is T, and
the person being tested has a component at 195 of C, then
the deviation would be reported as 195C.  It is possible
to have additional values (insertions) at a given location.
In that case they would be reported using the base location
(for example 195C) with the addition of a decimal and a
number.  For example 195.1C.  Two insertions would be
reported as 195.1C and 195.2T.  Deletions (missing base
location values) are also possible.  In such cases the
missing location is reported as a number followed by a minus
sign.  For example 195-.  Using those notational standards
it is highly unlikely that any give value would exceed 7
digits, so 10 is more than adequate.

Regards,

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

On 7/17/2011 7:46 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 You can't input your complete mtDNA in v.7.5.0.98 anyway.
 The template only goes up to 20 entries (of 10 letters) in each HVR.
 We'll all have to wait for the next update.



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Test for Family History only

[John Carter]

Oops.  I sent my answer to both to the original poster and the list.

John




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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Test for Family History only

[Sven-Ove Westberg]

I was at a seminar with Steve More on the subject.  If I understood him
right just do a detailed  test (many makers) is not worth the money. DNA
works best if you have a specific question you want an answer too.

Here is a link to an article he has written
http://stevemorse.org/genetealogy/dna.htm.

Sven-Ove

On 5/1/2011 8:14 PM, Old Tyke_FH wrote:
 I am not sure if this forum covers DNA testing, So please forgive me
 if I'm out of line.

 My Wife and I are thinking about getting one, for our family history
 only, But all the
 info on the net seems a lot of gobbledegook.

 All I wish to know is




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[LegacyUG] DNA Test for Family History only

[Old Tyke_FH]

I am not sure if this forum covers DNA testing, So please forgive me if I'm
out of line.

My Wife and I are thinking about getting one, for our family history only,
But all the
info on the net seems a lot of gobbledegook.

All I wish to know is

1 What type of test would I require
2 The Cost involved
3 Does a test include my Father and Mothers line?
4 I understand my wife, would only be able to get her mothers line, would it
be best
to get her brother to take the test.
I am 74 years old
My wife is 71 years old
So time for this test is important giving our age.
What is the best company to use, I don't want a shonky company

I would be grateful for any info you can give me.

Regards Arthur
South Australia


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Test for Family History only

[Sherry/Support]

The LUG list is not the right place to discuss this - unless the
discussion is specifically related to the DNA feature in Legacy.


There is a Yahoo! group called DNA-Newbie which was formed to further
the education and promotion of using DNA for genealogy.

You can find out more about the group at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNA-NEWBIE/

For a newbie group, the topics get a little techy, but I'm sure
they'll be more than happy to answer your questions.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Old Tyke_FH oldtyke...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am not sure if this forum covers DNA testing, So please forgive me if I'm
 out of line.
 My Wife and I are thinking about getting one, for our family history only,
 But all the
 info on the net seems a lot of gobbledegook.
 All I wish to know is
 1 What type of test would I require
 2 The Cost involved
 3 Does a test include my Father and Mothers line?
 4 I understand my wife, would only be able to get her mothers line, would it
 be best
 to get her brother to take the test.
 I am 74 years old
 My wife is 71 years old
 So time for this test is important giving our age.
 What is the best company to use, I don't want a shonky company
 I would be grateful for any info you can give me.
 Regards Arthur
 South Australia



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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Test for Family History only

[John Carter]

This is a direct reply, not on the Legacy list.

Traditional DNA is for the male line.  For your wife's paternal line, her
brother needs to take the test.

Mitochondrial DNA tests the mother-child link.

Go to http://www.familytreedna.com/ and see if there is a famiy project
for your surname.  If so, there is a discount for participating in that
surname's research.  In the group rates, a 25 marker test is $125 and a 37
marker test is $149.  The process is simple - you send them money, they
send you a test kit, you use the swabs to get cells from the inside of
your cheek and send the swabs back to them.  Some weeks later they send
you the DNA results

A 37 marker male DNA test is usually all that's needed to define a line.
In my case, the best match in the online databases is a 12 marker match
which indicates a common relative hundreds (possibly thousands) of years
ago. Since my paternal g-g-grandfather seems to have appeared out of thin
air, I have no information further back.  As it was much simpler to start
a new life in the early 1800's, perhaps there's a horse thief in my
ancestry ;-)

John

 I am not sure if this forum covers DNA testing, So please forgive me if
 I'm
 out of line.

 My Wife and I are thinking about getting one, for our family history only,
 But all the
 info on the net seems a lot of gobbledegook.

 All I wish to know is

 1 What type of test would I require
 2 The Cost involved
 3 Does a test include my Father and Mothers line?
 4 I understand my wife, would only be able to get her mothers line, would
 it
 be best
 to get her brother to take the test.
 I am 74 years old
 My wife is 71 years old
 So time for this test is important giving our age.
 What is the best company to use, I don't want a shonky company

 I would be grateful for any info you can give me.

 Regards Arthur
 South Australia


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Re: [LegacyUG] DNA Family Tree

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/01/22 18:49, Francois Greeff wrote:
 Is there way in which Legacy Charting 7 can make a colour coded Y-DNA
 tree that depicts MUTATIONS by colour?

Since you've not received any responses on-list, I would think most
people here are doing Genealogy, and not Microbiology or Genetics :-)

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