Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator different

2016-06-14 Thread Tami P via LegacyUserGroup 
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 Sorry, it's been awhile and I had forgotten to use the Set Relationships tool 
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On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:56 AM, Brian/Support 
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 Only using tools Set Relationship calculates the values which appear 
above people's names in family view. Were you the starting person when 
you used Tools > Set Relationships? Have you ever used Tools > Set 
Relationships to calculate the relationships of everyone to you? Have 
you added that person since you last calculated relationships? Legacy 
does not automatically update all relationships when you add people so 
you have to use Tools > Set relationships often if you are regularly 
adding new people to the file.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator different

2016-06-14 Thread Brian/Support 
Only using tools Set Relationship calculates the values which appear 
above people's names in family view. Were you the starting person when 
you used Tools > Set Relationships? Have you ever used Tools > Set 
Relationships to calculate the relationships of everyone to you? Have 
you added that person since you last calculated relationships? Legacy 
does not automatically update all relationships when you add people so 
you have to use Tools > Set relationships often if you are regularly 
adding new people to the file.


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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator different

2016-06-14 Thread Tami P via LegacyUserGroup 
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 Question about results of relationship calculator. When I calculate 
relationship of person A to person B, it says we're 3rd cousins. However when I 
return to Family page, there is no relationship reflected for this person. I 
expected to see 3rd cousin in that blue area between Parents and this person. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator - strange result

2016-06-07 Thread Mary Young 
Thanks for the explanation, that makes perfect sense. I hadn't realised the
not related line was active I.e. clickable
Mary Young
On 3 Jun 2016 15:58, "Brian/Support"  wrote:

> Look at the line of connection on the extra "not-related" line? Legacy
> should show you who is in that line so you can figure out the answer to
> your question. Usually a not-related connection is via marriages to someone
> not in your direct line like an in-law or other non-direct line relative.
>
> Brian
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> Millennia Corporation
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>
> On 03-Jun-16 10:30 AM, Mary Young wrote:
>
>> I ran the Relationship Calculator for myself and a 3rd cousin. With
>> myself on the left, the Report shows our Common Ancestors
>> (2nd-gr-grandparents) and Relationship: 3rd cousin.
>> However, when I Swap Left and Right (i.e. with myself on the right)
>> there is a second line, with Common Ancestors "Not Related", and
>> Relationship: "Not Related".
>> How can Third Cousins also be "Not Related"?
>> Mary Young
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator - strange result

2016-06-03 Thread Brian/Support 
Look at the line of connection on the extra "not-related" line? Legacy 
should show you who is in that line so you can figure out the answer to 
your question. Usually a not-related connection is via marriages to 
someone not in your direct line like an in-law or other non-direct line 
relative.


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On 03-Jun-16 10:30 AM, Mary Young wrote:

I ran the Relationship Calculator for myself and a 3rd cousin. With
myself on the left, the Report shows our Common Ancestors
(2nd-gr-grandparents) and Relationship: 3rd cousin.
However, when I Swap Left and Right (i.e. with myself on the right)
there is a second line, with Common Ancestors "Not Related", and
Relationship: "Not Related".
How can Third Cousins also be "Not Related"?
Mary Young






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[LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator - strange result

2016-06-03 Thread Mary Young 
I ran the Relationship Calculator for myself and a 3rd cousin. With myself
on the left, the Report shows our Common Ancestors (2nd-gr-grandparents)
and Relationship: 3rd cousin.
However, when I Swap Left and Right (i.e. with myself on the right) there
is a second line, with Common Ancestors "Not Related", and Relationship:
"Not Related".
How can Third Cousins also be "Not Related"?
Mary Young
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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-07-01 Thread Mary Young 
Could you please explain GRASSed.
Mary


On 29 June 2014 23:11, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:

 Robert57P_gmail wrote:
  If it is not blood relationship, shouldn't it show it as in-law rather
  than step?

 Don't think so

 
  Hmmm - wait - what's the difference in in-law vs step?  Both are
  legal relationships, not blood relationships.  Never really thought
  about it before . . .

 Step is GRASSed in the US as almost any non-blood
 relationship that didn't come via one's own marriage.  If
 the relationship is through one's own marriage, it's an
 in-law.

 The kicker there is, half sibs ought to fall into the
 in-law definition, but instead is separated.



 
  Father-in-law (my spouse's father)
  step-Father (my mom's 2nd(?) father, not my blood father).  But

 And if one is the product of one's mother's 3rd marriage,
 one is the Step child of her 4th husband -- but what the
 flip is one to the first two husbands? :)

  technically he is my father by legal definition (assuming I was
  adopted by him), so wouldn't that make him my father-in-law or
  father-by-law???  or father-per-law???
 
  Along similar line:
  Uncle - my Dad's brother
  Wife of Uncle - my Dad's brother's wife
  Aunt-in-law - wouldn't that be another way of saying my Dad's
  Brother's wife?

 Yes, but she could be your wife's mother's sister.

 
  Guess rather than helping, I've thrown more confusion into the mix!
 Sorry!
 

 Dunno, but it's sort of refreshing to read an issue that
 can't be resolved by some version of RTFM.

 Cheryl


  Bob
 
  On 06/28/2014 22:35, Pat Hickin wrote:
  Thanks, Cathy,
  Maybe if it said 3rd great-grandmother's *first *husband's father, I
  wouldn't wonder -- or I would just look to see. Of course, I already
  knew it wasn't a blood relationship.
 
  Pat
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Cathy Pinnergenea...@gmail.com
  mailto:genea...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
   It's the relationship that is being called step, not the 3rd
   great-grandmother.
 
   It does seem a strange way to express the non-relationship.
 
   Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd great-grandfather and
   so his father is not a step 4th great grandfather but it's a way
   of indicating that this isn't a blood relationship. If it just
   said 3rd great-grandmother's husband's father, would you be left
   wondering whether it was a blood relationship?
 
   So how would you describe the connection?
 
   Cathy
 
   Pat Hickin wrote:
 I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd husband.
   
 Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship calculator
 show my
 relation to her 1st husbandââ'¬â¢s father as my ââ'¬Åstep
 3rd
 great-grandmother's husband's fatherââ'¬  when she is not my
   ââ'¬Åstepââ'¬  (3rd)
 great-grandmother?
   
 Pat
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-07-01 Thread singhals 
G-enerally
R-ecognized
AS-
S-afe

In context, I was saying that step is the more widely
accepted nomenclature in the US, although there are other
localized usages.

Sorry.

Cheryl

Mary Young wrote:
 Could you please explain GRASSed.
 Mary


 On 29 June 2014 23:11, singhals singh...@erols.com
 mailto:singh...@erols.com wrote:

 Robert57P_gmail wrote:
   If it is not blood relationship, shouldn't it show it
 as in-law rather
   than step?

 Don't think so

  
   Hmmm - wait - what's the difference in in-law vs
 step? Both are
   legal relationships, not blood relationships. Never
 really thought
   about it before . . .

 Step is GRASSed in the US as almost any non-blood
 relationship that didn't come via one's own marriage. If
 the relationship is through one's own marriage, it's an
 in-law.

 The kicker there is, half sibs ought to fall into the
 in-law definition, but instead is separated.



  
   Father-in-law (my spouse's father)
   step-Father (my mom's 2nd(?) father, not my blood
 father). But

 And if one is the product of one's mother's 3rd marriage,
 one is the Step child of her 4th husband -- but what the
 flip is one to the first two husbands? :)

   technically he is my father by legal definition
 (assuming I was
   adopted by him), so wouldn't that make him my
 father-in-law or
   father-by-law??? or father-per-law???
  
   Along similar line:
   Uncle - my Dad's brother
   Wife of Uncle - my Dad's brother's wife
   Aunt-in-law - wouldn't that be another way of
 saying my Dad's
   Brother's wife?

 Yes, but she could be your wife's mother's sister.

  
   Guess rather than helping, I've thrown more confusion
 into the mix! Sorry!
  

 Dunno, but it's sort of refreshing to read an issue that
 can't be resolved by some version of RTFM.

 Cheryl


   Bob
  
   On 06/28/2014 22:35, Pat Hickin wrote:
   Thanks, Cathy,
   Maybe if it said 3rd great-grandmother's *first
 *husband's father, I
   wouldn't wonder -- or I would just look to see. Of
 course, I already
   knew it wasn't a blood relationship.
  
   Pat
  
  
  
  
   On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Cathy
 Pinnergenea...@gmail.com mailto:genea...@gmail.com
   mailto:genea...@gmail.com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   It's the relationship that is being called step,
 not the 3rd
   great-grandmother.
  
   It does seem a strange way to express the
 non-relationship.
  
   Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd
 great-grandfather and
   so his father is not a step 4th great grandfather
 but it's a way
   of indicating that this isn't a blood relationship.
 If it just
   said 3rd great-grandmother's husband's father, would
 you be left
   wondering whether it was a blood relationship?
  
   So how would you describe the connection?
  
   Cathy
  
   Pat Hickin wrote:
I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd
 husband.
   
Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship
 calculator show my
relation to her 1st husband’s father as my
 “step 3rd
great-grandmother's husband's father†when she
 is not my
   “step†(3rd)
great-grandmother?
   
Pat
  






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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-07-01 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot 
TANOOM

(That's A New One On Me) :-)

Brian in CA



-Original Message-
From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:03 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

G-enerally
R-ecognized
AS-
S-afe

In context, I was saying that step is the more widely accepted nomenclature 
in the US, although there are other localized usages.

Sorry.

Cheryl

Mary Young wrote:
 Could you please explain GRASSed.
 Mary


 On 29 June 2014 23:11, singhals singh...@erols.com
 mailto:singh...@erols.com wrote:

 Robert57P_gmail wrote:
   If it is not blood relationship, shouldn't it show it
 as in-law rather
   than step?

 Don't think so

  
   Hmmm - wait - what's the difference in in-law vs
 step? Both are
   legal relationships, not blood relationships. Never
 really thought
   about it before . . .

 Step is GRASSed in the US as almost any non-blood
 relationship that didn't come via one's own marriage. If
 the relationship is through one's own marriage, it's an
 in-law.

 The kicker there is, half sibs ought to fall into the
 in-law definition, but instead is separated.



  
   Father-in-law (my spouse's father)
   step-Father (my mom's 2nd(?) father, not my blood
 father). But

 And if one is the product of one's mother's 3rd marriage,
 one is the Step child of her 4th husband -- but what the
 flip is one to the first two husbands? :)

   technically he is my father by legal definition
 (assuming I was
   adopted by him), so wouldn't that make him my
 father-in-law or
   father-by-law??? or father-per-law???
  
   Along similar line:
   Uncle - my Dad's brother
   Wife of Uncle - my Dad's brother's wife
   Aunt-in-law - wouldn't that be another way of
 saying my Dad's
   Brother's wife?

 Yes, but she could be your wife's mother's sister.

  
   Guess rather than helping, I've thrown more confusion
 into the mix! Sorry!
  

 Dunno, but it's sort of refreshing to read an issue that
 can't be resolved by some version of RTFM.

 Cheryl


   Bob
  
   On 06/28/2014 22:35, Pat Hickin wrote:
   Thanks, Cathy,
   Maybe if it said 3rd great-grandmother's *first
 *husband's father, I
   wouldn't wonder -- or I would just look to see. Of
 course, I already
   knew it wasn't a blood relationship.
  
   Pat
  
  
  
  
   On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Cathy
 Pinnergenea...@gmail.com mailto:genea...@gmail.com
   mailto:genea...@gmail.com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   It's the relationship that is being called step,
 not the 3rd
   great-grandmother.
  
   It does seem a strange way to express the
 non-relationship.
  
   Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd
 great-grandfather and
   so his father is not a step 4th great grandfather
 but it's a way
   of indicating that this isn't a blood relationship.
 If it just
   said 3rd great-grandmother's husband's father, would
 you be left
   wondering whether it was a blood relationship?
  
   So how would you describe the connection?
  
   Cathy
  
   Pat Hickin wrote:
I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd
 husband.
   
Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship
 calculator show my
relation to her 1st husband’s father as my
 “step 3rd
great-grandmother's husband's father†when she
 is not my
   “step†(3rd)
great-grandmother?
   
Pat
  








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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-06-29 Thread singhals 
Robert57P_gmail wrote:
 If it is not blood relationship, shouldn't it show it as in-law rather
 than step?

Don't think so


 Hmmm - wait - what's the difference in in-law vs step?  Both are
 legal relationships, not blood relationships.  Never really thought
 about it before . . .

Step is GRASSed in the US as almost any non-blood
relationship that didn't come via one's own marriage.  If
the relationship is through one's own marriage, it's an
in-law.

The kicker there is, half sibs ought to fall into the
in-law definition, but instead is separated.




 Father-in-law (my spouse's father)
 step-Father (my mom's 2nd(?) father, not my blood father).  But

And if one is the product of one's mother's 3rd marriage,
one is the Step child of her 4th husband -- but what the
flip is one to the first two husbands? :)

 technically he is my father by legal definition (assuming I was
 adopted by him), so wouldn't that make him my father-in-law or
 father-by-law???  or father-per-law???

 Along similar line:
 Uncle - my Dad's brother
 Wife of Uncle - my Dad's brother's wife
 Aunt-in-law - wouldn't that be another way of saying my Dad's
 Brother's wife?

Yes, but she could be your wife's mother's sister.


 Guess rather than helping, I've thrown more confusion into the mix! Sorry!


Dunno, but it's sort of refreshing to read an issue that
can't be resolved by some version of RTFM.

Cheryl


 Bob

 On 06/28/2014 22:35, Pat Hickin wrote:
 Thanks, Cathy,
 Maybe if it said 3rd great-grandmother's *first *husband's father, I
 wouldn't wonder -- or I would just look to see. Of course, I already
 knew it wasn't a blood relationship.

 Pat




 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Cathy Pinnergenea...@gmail.com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com  wrote:

  It's the relationship that is being called step, not the 3rd
  great-grandmother.

  It does seem a strange way to express the non-relationship.

  Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd great-grandfather and
  so his father is not a step 4th great grandfather but it's a way
  of indicating that this isn't a blood relationship. If it just
  said 3rd great-grandmother's husband's father, would you be left
  wondering whether it was a blood relationship?

  So how would you describe the connection?

  Cathy

  Pat Hickin wrote:
I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd husband.
  
Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship calculator show my
relation to her 1st husband’s father as my “step 3rd
great-grandmother's husband's father† when she is not my
  “step† (3rd)
great-grandmother?
  
Pat





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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-06-28 Thread Pat Hickin 
I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd husband.

Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship calculator show my
relation to her 1st husband’s father as my “step 3rd great-grandmother's
husband's father” when she is not my “step” (3rd) great-grandmother?

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-06-28 Thread Cathy Pinner 
It's the relationship that is being called step, not the 3rd 
great-grandmother.

It does seem a strange way to express the non-relationship.

Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd great-grandfather and so his 
father is not a step 4th great grandfather but it's a way of indicating that 
this isn't a blood relationship. If it just said 3rd great-grandmother's 
husband's father, would you be left wondering whether it was a blood 
relationship?

So how would you describe the connection?

Cathy

Pat Hickin wrote:
 I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd husband.

 Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship calculator show my
 relation to her 1st husband’s father as my “step 3rd
 great-grandmother's husband's father” when she is not my “step” (3rd)
 great-grandmother?

 Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-06-28 Thread Pat Hickin 
Thanks, Cathy,
Maybe if it said 3rd great-grandmother's *first *husband's father, I
wouldn't wonder -- or I would just look to see. Of course, I already knew
it wasn't a blood relationship.

Pat




On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's the relationship that is being called step, not the 3rd
 great-grandmother.

 It does seem a strange way to express the non-relationship.

 Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd great-grandfather and so his
 father is not a step 4th great grandfather but it's a way of indicating
 that this isn't a blood relationship. If it just said 3rd
 great-grandmother's husband's father, would you be left wondering whether
 it was a blood relationship?

 So how would you describe the connection?

 Cathy

 Pat Hickin wrote:
  I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd husband.
 
  Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship calculator show my
  relation to her 1st husband’s father as my “step 3rd
  great-grandmother's husband's father† when she is not my “stepâ€
  (3rd)
  great-grandmother?
 
  Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-06-28 Thread Robert57P_gmail 
If it is not blood relationship, shouldn't it show it as in-law rather
than step?

Hmmm - wait - what's the difference in in-law vs step?  Both are
legal relationships, not blood relationships.  Never really thought
about it before . . .

Father-in-law (my spouse's father)
step-Father (my mom's 2nd(?) father, not my blood father).  But
technically he is my father by legal definition (assuming I was
adopted by him), so wouldn't that make him my father-in-law or
father-by-law???  or father-per-law???

Along similar line:
Uncle - my Dad's brother
Wife of Uncle - my Dad's brother's wife
Aunt-in-law - wouldn't that be another way of saying my Dad's
Brother's wife?

Guess rather than helping, I've thrown more confusion into the mix! Sorry!

Bob

On 06/28/2014 22:35, Pat Hickin wrote:
 Thanks, Cathy,
 Maybe if it said 3rd great-grandmother's *first *husband's father, I
 wouldn't wonder -- or I would just look to see. Of course, I already
 knew it wasn't a blood relationship.

 Pat




 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
 mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's the relationship that is being called step, not the 3rd
 great-grandmother.

 It does seem a strange way to express the non-relationship.

 Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd great-grandfather and
 so his father is not a step 4th great grandfather but it's a way
 of indicating that this isn't a blood relationship. If it just
 said 3rd great-grandmother's husband's father, would you be left
 wondering whether it was a blood relationship?

 So how would you describe the connection?

 Cathy

 Pat Hickin wrote:
  I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd husband.
 
  Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship calculator show my
  relation to her 1st husband’s father as my “step 3rd
  great-grandmother's husband's father† when she is not my
 “step† (3rd)
  great-grandmother?
 
  Pat





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator -- error??

2014-06-28 Thread Pat Hickin 
I guess it could say  my 3rd great-grandmother's *first *father-in-law.


On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Robert57P_gmail robert...@gmail.com
wrote:

 If it is not blood relationship, shouldn't it show it as in-law rather
 than step?

 Hmmm - wait - what's the difference in in-law vs step?  Both are
 legal relationships, not blood relationships.  Never really thought
 about it before . . .

 Father-in-law (my spouse's father)
 step-Father (my mom's 2nd(?) father, not my blood father).  But
 technically he is my father by legal definition (assuming I was
 adopted by him), so wouldn't that make him my father-in-law or
 father-by-law???  or father-per-law???

 Along similar line:
 Uncle - my Dad's brother
 Wife of Uncle - my Dad's brother's wife
 Aunt-in-law - wouldn't that be another way of saying my Dad's
 Brother's wife?

 Guess rather than helping, I've thrown more confusion into the mix! Sorry!

 Bob

 On 06/28/2014 22:35, Pat Hickin wrote:
  Thanks, Cathy,
  Maybe if it said 3rd great-grandmother's *first *husband's father, I
  wouldn't wonder -- or I would just look to see. Of course, I already
  knew it wasn't a blood relationship.
 
  Pat
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com
  mailto:genea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  It's the relationship that is being called step, not the 3rd
  great-grandmother.
 
  It does seem a strange way to express the non-relationship.
 
  Strictly her first husband is not a step 3rd great-grandfather and
  so his father is not a step 4th great grandfather but it's a way
  of indicating that this isn't a blood relationship. If it just
  said 3rd great-grandmother's husband's father, would you be left
  wondering whether it was a blood relationship?
 
  So how would you describe the connection?
 
  Cathy
 
  Pat Hickin wrote:
   I am descended from a 3x grgrandmother and her 2nd husband.
  
   Can anyone tell me --Why does Legacy relationship calculator show
 my
   relation to her 1st husband’s father as my “step 3rd
   great-grandmother's husband's father† when she is not my
  “step† (3rd)
   great-grandmother?
  
   Pat
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2013-09-08 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot 
I also noticed the other day one other very minor change. In GEDCOM exports, 
the window to choose which groups of items to exclude changed the wording of 
“pictures and sounds” to “media”. Well, at least that’s the way I remember it. 
And I have no problem with such minor clean-up changes. It seems there were a 
lot in the last update. Looks like they missed the * and the asterisk 
combination in the Help files.



Brian





From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 1:06 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator



It was picture gallery?



On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Well, I would like the programmers to maybe see these little things and get 
more in the habit of updating Help.  Like they changed the name of the photo 
gallery window to media gallery, but you can't find media gallery anywhere in 
Help.  Hard to help someone with their media gallery question when you can't 
figure out what they're talking about.  Of course, I remember being a 
programmer and how hard it is to keep the documentation up-to-date.  ;)



--Paula

  _

From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator



Thanks Ron. That was easy.



By the way, I did look in Help but apparently the asterisk in spelled out as a 
word in the instance of being used in relationships but I was searching using  
just the character “*” when I found “* in searches”. I would suggest a minor 
change to the Help system in order to be more consistent but the programmers 
have much bigger fish to fry.

snip




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator print

2013-09-08 Thread Brian/Support 
Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp 
Solutions by Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error
message.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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--

On 06/09/2013 8:12 PM, Bernd Hornung wrote:
 I recently added a database of my wife's maternal family, a database
 that originally got me interested in genealogy.  I notice that there
 were some familiar surnames that seemed to related to a 3rd cousin of
 mine that I had found last year.  I tracked these names through FS and
 other sources and BINGO, she turned out to be my wife's 6th cousin.

 Now, when I try to create a text file of the relationship calculator I
 get a runtime 0005 error and the program crashes.  I tried this twice
 with the same result.  Has anyone encountered this and is there is solution?

 What I what to do is put this relationship plus my relationship on my
 blog so I need a text document that I can play with to format. There
 doesn't seem to be a report for this.

 Any thoughts or advice gratefully received.

 Bernie





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[LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2013-09-07 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot 
While playing around with the relationship calculator today, I noticed at
least one relationship came up with an asterisk on the end. I can't remember
if this was ever discussed before but it obviously has some meaning and I
could not find any disclosure in the Legacy Help files. This asterisk shows
up on a relationship between two individuals that have two relationship, one
being a half second cousin and the other being a third cousin. I want to
assume that the asterisk is there to warn me that there are two or more
relationships between the individuals but isn't that obvious when both are
listed below. It would seem to be a redundant warning so I want to think it
must have a better purpose than that. Any guesses?








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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2013-09-07 Thread Ron Taylor 
Brian,
Look at HelpIndexasterisk after relationship

Ron Taylor



 From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator



While playing around with the relationship calculator today, I noticed at least 
one relationship came up with an asterisk on the end. I can’t remember if this 
was ever discussed before but it obviously has some meaning and I could not 
find any disclosure in the Legacy Help files. This asterisk shows up on a 
relationship between two individuals that have two relationship, one being a 
half second cousin and the other being a third cousin. I want to assume that 
the asterisk is there to warn me that there are two or more relationships 
between the individuals but isn’t that obvious when both are listed below. It 
would seem to be a redundant warning so I want to think it must have a better 
purpose than that. Any guesses?
 
 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2013-09-07 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot 
Thanks Ron. That was easy.



By the way, I did look in Help but apparently the asterisk in spelled out as a 
word in the instance of being used in relationships but I was searching using  
just the character “*” when I found “* in searches”. I would suggest a minor 
change to the Help system in order to be more consistent but the programmers 
have much bigger fish to fry.



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator



Brian,

Look at HelpIndexasterisk after relationship



Ron Taylor



  _

From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator



While playing around with the relationship calculator today, I noticed at least 
one relationship came up with an asterisk on the end. I can’t remember if this 
was ever discussed before but it obviously has some meaning and I could not 
find any disclosure in the Legacy Help files. This asterisk shows up on a 
relationship between two individuals that have two relationship, one being a 
half second cousin and the other being a third cousin. I want to assume that 
the asterisk is there to warn me that there are two or more relationships 
between the individuals but isn’t that obvious when both are listed below. It 
would seem to be a redundant warning so I want to think it must have a better 
purpose than that. Any guesses?







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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2013-09-07 Thread Paula Ryburn 
Well, I would like the programmers to maybe see these little things and get 
more in the habit of updating Help.  Like they changed the name of the photo 
gallery window to media gallery, but you can't find media gallery anywhere in 
Help.  Hard to help someone with their media gallery question when you can't 
figure out what they're talking about.  Of course, I remember being a 
programmer and how hard it is to keep the documentation up-to-date.  ;)
 
--Paula


 From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator



Thanks Ron. That was easy.
 
By the way, I did look in Help but apparently the asterisk in spelled out as a 
word in the instance of being used in relationships but I was searching using  
just the character “*” when I found “* in searches”. I would suggest a minor 
change to the Help system in order to be more consistent but the programmers 
have much bigger fish to fry.
snip


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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator print

2013-09-06 Thread Bernd Hornung 
I recently added a database of my wife's maternal family, a database
that originally got me interested in genealogy.  I notice that there
were some familiar surnames that seemed to related to a 3rd cousin of
mine that I had found last year.  I tracked these names through FS and
other sources and BINGO, she turned out to be my wife's 6th cousin.

Now, when I try to create a text file of the relationship calculator I
get a runtime 0005 error and the program crashes.  I tried this twice
with the same result.  Has anyone encountered this and is there is solution?

What I what to do is put this relationship plus my relationship on my
blog so I need a text document that I can play with to format. There
doesn't seem to be a report for this.

Any thoughts or advice gratefully received.

Bernie


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator print

2013-09-06 Thread Bernd Hornung 
Just fixed my own problem.  There was little button that referred to the
current relationship that needed to be checked.  The default is all
relationships and that is too much to for the system when you have
30,000 in the db.  It takes long enough for Legacy to work through all
those people just to do the relationship between the two highlighted people.

Berni


On 06/09/2013 6:12 PM, Bernd Hornung wrote:
 I recently added a database of my wife's maternal family, a database
 that originally got me interested in genealogy.  I notice that there
 were some familiar surnames that seemed to related to a 3rd cousin of
 mine that I had found last year.  I tracked these names through FS and
 other sources and BINGO, she turned out to be my wife's 6th cousin.

 Now, when I try to create a text file of the relationship calculator I
 get a runtime 0005 error and the program crashes.  I tried this twice
 with the same result.  Has anyone encountered this and is there is
 solution?

 What I what to do is put this relationship plus my relationship on my
 blog so I need a text document that I can play with to format. There
 doesn't seem to be a report for this.

 Any thoughts or advice gratefully received.

 Bernie


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 http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-02 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Thank you, Thelma.

Please would you clarify which report you are creating; the Relationship
Calculator from ToolsRelationship CalculatorPrint, as I thought, or the
Relationship Report from ReportsAll Reports (Books and
others)Relationships, as Tim suggested.

If the former, and you have no RelSet.usr, then the problem is that this
settings file is not being created. If you are not using the latest version
which is 7.5.0.201 then updating may resolve the problem, otherwise I would
re-install.

If the latter then deleting the RelChart.usr, or as Tim suggested - sticking
it in another folder, or renaming to XRelChart.usr - may be the cure.  If
that works you can delete the old RelChart.usr file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I did not find RelSet.usr but did find a file RelChart.usr

Version 5.0.02  Relationship Report
104.059
4.826
3.175
3.175
3.175
1
Arial
Arial
Arial
Times New Roman
Times New Roman
Arial
Arial
Arial
Produced by Legacy
Relationship Chart
16777215
20.813
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10.406
0
1
1
1
0
1
0
1
0
1
1
0
0
1
1
0
1
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Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thank you Thelma. At the moment I cannot see the cause of the problem. Would
you mind opening RelSet.usr in your text editor - Notepad will do fine - and
copy/paste the contents into another post please - as it's a text file this
will be OK. Assuming that you used the Legacy installation defaults you will
find the file in the C\Legacy folder.

As it is getting on for 2:00am here I am off to bed, so if anybody else
wishes to help solve the problem whilst I get some shut-eye please feel
free.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I have version 7.5  I have done the file maintenance but it made no
difference.

After running the RelationshipCalculator I chose PRINT then PREVIEW.
Settings were Birth and Death Years Marriage Date Put Boxes Around
Individuals

The first one of the common ancestors shows 6 generations on one side and 5
on the other.

If I choose Print the current relationship (without Each on New Page) it
shows 8 pages with a generation on each page and both lines of the
relationship bunched together on the left side outside the box line.

In this relationship report it shows 5 different ways of relationships. The
furtherest distant cousin has 8 generations.

If I choose  Print all the relationships with Each on New Page it shows
55 pages.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

I have tested using various settings and mine works perfectly. However, as
you did not state what your settings are I am unable to test your set-up.
Also what version of Legacy are you using? You might like to try FileFile
MaintenanceCheck/Repair, but I'm not optimistic. I can see no obvious way
of re-setting to the defaults. In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
the RelSet.usr file, but again I am not optimistic.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes out the same every time.
What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
printed fine.
I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
to calculate.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

Have you looked to see if the check box each on a new page is checked. If
it isn't and you still have the problem, then we will need to know all your
settings if we are to try and reproduce. Mine is OK, which doesn't help
much, other than to say that the problem is local to your machine/settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From

Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-02 Thread Thelma L. Martin 
The report I am creating is Relationship Calculator from ToolsRelationship
CalculatorPrint

My version is 7.5.0.191

Thanks for your help - I'll likely need to update.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thank you, Thelma.

Please would you clarify which report you are creating; the Relationship
Calculator from ToolsRelationship CalculatorPrint, as I thought, or the
Relationship Report from ReportsAll Reports (Books and
others)Relationships, as Tim suggested.

If the former, and you have no RelSet.usr, then the problem is that this
settings file is not being created. If you are not using the latest version
which is 7.5.0.201 then updating may resolve the problem, otherwise I would
re-install.

If the latter then deleting the RelChart.usr, or as Tim suggested - sticking
it in another folder, or renaming to XRelChart.usr - may be the cure.  If
that works you can delete the old RelChart.usr file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I did not find RelSet.usr but did find a file RelChart.usr

Version 5.0.02  Relationship Report
104.059
4.826
3.175
3.175
3.175
1
Arial
Arial
Arial
Times New Roman
Times New Roman
Arial
Arial
Arial
Produced by Legacy
Relationship Chart
16777215
20.813
0
10.406
0
1
1
1
0
1
0
1
0
1
1
0
0
1
1
0
1
18
1
12
1
10
0
10
0
10
0
8
0
6
0
6
0
0
100
110
2
0
0
0
0
Native
0

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thank you Thelma. At the moment I cannot see the cause of the problem. Would
you mind opening RelSet.usr in your text editor - Notepad will do fine - and
copy/paste the contents into another post please - as it's a text file this
will be OK. Assuming that you used the Legacy installation defaults you will
find the file in the C\Legacy folder.

As it is getting on for 2:00am here I am off to bed, so if anybody else
wishes to help solve the problem whilst I get some shut-eye please feel
free.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I have version 7.5  I have done the file maintenance but it made no
difference.

After running the RelationshipCalculator I chose PRINT then PREVIEW.
Settings were Birth and Death Years Marriage Date Put Boxes Around
Individuals

The first one of the common ancestors shows 6 generations on one side and 5
on the other.

If I choose Print the current relationship (without Each on New Page) it
shows 8 pages with a generation on each page and both lines of the
relationship bunched together on the left side outside the box line.

In this relationship report it shows 5 different ways of relationships. The
furtherest distant cousin has 8 generations.

If I choose  Print all the relationships with Each on New Page it shows
55 pages.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

I have tested using various settings and mine works perfectly. However, as
you did not state what your settings are I am unable to test your set-up.
Also what version of Legacy are you using? You might like to try FileFile
MaintenanceCheck/Repair, but I'm not optimistic. I can see no obvious way
of re-setting to the defaults. In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
the RelSet.usr file, but again I am not optimistic.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes out the same every time.
What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
printed fine.
I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
to calculate.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent

Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-02 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
On 8/2/2012 1:13 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 as I thought, or the
 Relationship Report from ReportsAll Reports (Books and
 others)Relationships, as Tim suggested.

I suggested NO such thing ! Go back and read my posts.

You have always been right, never wrong when it comes to me

Enjoy and Happy Hunting


--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-02 Thread Thelma L. Martin 
I've updated to the latest version - My relationship report acts just the
same - 8 pages for 1 relationship and 55 for all.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Thelma L. Martin thelm...@frontier.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


The report I am creating is Relationship Calculator from ToolsRelationship
CalculatorPrint

My version is 7.5.0.191

Thanks for your help - I'll likely need to update.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thank you, Thelma.

Please would you clarify which report you are creating; the Relationship
Calculator from ToolsRelationship CalculatorPrint, as I thought, or the
Relationship Report from ReportsAll Reports (Books and
others)Relationships, as Tim suggested.

If the former, and you have no RelSet.usr, then the problem is that this
settings file is not being created. If you are not using the latest version
which is 7.5.0.201 then updating may resolve the problem, otherwise I would
re-install.

If the latter then deleting the RelChart.usr, or as Tim suggested - sticking
it in another folder, or renaming to XRelChart.usr - may be the cure.  If
that works you can delete the old RelChart.usr file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I did not find RelSet.usr but did find a file RelChart.usr

Version 5.0.02  Relationship Report
104.059
4.826
3.175
3.175
3.175
1
Arial
Arial
Arial
Times New Roman
Times New Roman
Arial
Arial
Arial
Produced by Legacy
Relationship Chart
16777215
20.813
0
10.406
0
1
1
1
0
1
0
1
0
1
1
0
0
1
1
0
1
18
1
12
1
10
0
10
0
10
0
8
0
6
0
6
0
0
100
110
2
0
0
0
0
Native
0

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thank you Thelma. At the moment I cannot see the cause of the problem. Would
you mind opening RelSet.usr in your text editor - Notepad will do fine - and
copy/paste the contents into another post please - as it's a text file this
will be OK. Assuming that you used the Legacy installation defaults you will
find the file in the C\Legacy folder.

As it is getting on for 2:00am here I am off to bed, so if anybody else
wishes to help solve the problem whilst I get some shut-eye please feel
free.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I have version 7.5  I have done the file maintenance but it made no
difference.

After running the RelationshipCalculator I chose PRINT then PREVIEW.
Settings were Birth and Death Years Marriage Date Put Boxes Around
Individuals

The first one of the common ancestors shows 6 generations on one side and 5
on the other.

If I choose Print the current relationship (without Each on New Page) it
shows 8 pages with a generation on each page and both lines of the
relationship bunched together on the left side outside the box line.

In this relationship report it shows 5 different ways of relationships. The
furtherest distant cousin has 8 generations.

If I choose  Print all the relationships with Each on New Page it shows
55 pages.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

I have tested using various settings and mine works perfectly. However, as
you did not state what your settings are I am unable to test your set-up.
Also what version of Legacy are you using? You might like to try FileFile
MaintenanceCheck/Repair, but I'm not optimistic. I can see no obvious way
of re-setting to the defaults. In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
the RelSet.usr file, but again I am not optimistic.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes

Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-02 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Sorry Tim, I thought that when you mentioned RelChart.usr, you must have
thought it was the Report option that you had thought Thelma was using!

Given two options I'm just as likely to pick the wrong one :-)

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

On 8/2/2012 1:13 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 as I thought, or the
 Relationship Report from ReportsAll Reports (Books and
 others)Relationships, as Tim suggested.

I suggested NO such thing ! Go back and read my posts.

You have always been right, never wrong when it comes to me

Enjoy and Happy Hunting


--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Thelma,

Have you looked to see if the check box each on a new page is checked. If
it isn't and you still have the problem, then we will need to know all your
settings if we are to try and reproduce. Mine is OK, which doesn't help
much, other than to say that the problem is local to your machine/settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

After getting results of a calculation I had been able at first to get a
nice one page report.
Today when I select PRINT, then PREVIEW it shows 8 pages for a 6-generation
report and each page has only one generation with both people's names
bunched together on the far right side of the page, outside of the box.

Any suggestions?

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Thelma L. Martin 
I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes out the same every time.
What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
printed fine.
I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
to calculate.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

Have you looked to see if the check box each on a new page is checked. If
it isn't and you still have the problem, then we will need to know all your
settings if we are to try and reproduce. Mine is OK, which doesn't help
much, other than to say that the problem is local to your machine/settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

After getting results of a calculation I had been able at first to get a
nice one page report.
Today when I select PRINT, then PREVIEW it shows 8 pages for a 6-generation
report and each page has only one generation with both people's names
bunched together on the far right side of the page, outside of the box.

Any suggestions?

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
On 8/1/2012 12:08 PM, Thelma L. Martin wrote:
 I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
 checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
 comes out the same every time.
 What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
 printed fine.
 I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
 to calculate.

 Thelma L. Martin
 28090 CR 44
 Nappanee, IN 45650

Move your RelChart.usr from the Legacy folder, to the Temp folder for
safe keeping then try again.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Thelma,

I have tested using various settings and mine works perfectly. However, as
you did not state what your settings are I am unable to test your set-up.
Also what version of Legacy are you using? You might like to try FileFile
MaintenanceCheck/Repair, but I'm not optimistic. I can see no obvious way
of re-setting to the defaults. In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
the RelSet.usr file, but again I am not optimistic.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes out the same every time.
What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
printed fine.
I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
to calculate.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

Have you looked to see if the check box each on a new page is checked. If
it isn't and you still have the problem, then we will need to know all your
settings if we are to try and reproduce. Mine is OK, which doesn't help
much, other than to say that the problem is local to your machine/settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

After getting results of a calculation I had been able at first to get a
nice one page report.
Today when I select PRINT, then PREVIEW it shows 8 pages for a 6-generation
report and each page has only one generation with both people's names
bunched together on the far right side of the page, outside of the box.

Any suggestions?

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
On 8/1/2012 1:28 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
 the RelSet.usr file,

RelChart.usr is the you want

RelSet.usr is for the Set Relations

Help file, 'User Files'


--
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Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Tim,

You would be right if Thelma is using the Relationship Report, but I do not
believe that she is. In her original post she specifically states
Relationship Calculator i.e. ToolsRelationship Calculatorprint which is
RelSet.usr and contains the selection parameters.

I did ask (twice now) for her settings, from which we would be able to tell.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

On 8/1/2012 1:28 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
 the RelSet.usr file,

RelChart.usr is the you want

RelSet.usr is for the Set Relations

Help file, 'User Files'


--
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Utah, USA
Swedish Research




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
On 8/1/2012 2:36 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Tim,

 You would be right if Thelma is using the Relationship Report, but I do not
 believe that she is. In her original post she specifically states
 Relationship Calculator i.e. ToolsRelationship Calculatorprint which is
 RelSet.usr and contains the selection parameters.

 I did ask (twice now) for her settings, from which we would be able to tell.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

OK, You Win.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Ron Ferguson 
-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

On 8/1/2012 2:36 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Tim,

 You would be right if Thelma is using the Relationship Report, but I do
 not
 believe that she is. In her original post she specifically states
 Relationship Calculator i.e. ToolsRelationship Calculatorprint which is
 RelSet.usr and contains the selection parameters.

 I did ask (twice now) for her settings, from which we would be able to
 tell.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

OK, You Win.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research

It's not really a question of win or lose, but it is a perfect illustration
as to why when asking about a problem the full information should be given,
and when details are requested it is not just for fun.

BTW. I am not 100% confident that my interpretation is the correct one - you
may yet win :-)!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Thelma L. Martin 
I have version 7.5  I have done the file maintenance but it made no
difference.

After running the RelationshipCalculator I chose PRINT then PREVIEW.
Settings were Birth and Death Years Marriage Date Put Boxes Around
Individuals

The first one of the common ancestors shows 6 generations on one side and 5
on the other.

If I choose Print the current relationship (without Each on New Page) it
shows 8 pages with a generation on each page and both lines of the
relationship bunched together on the left side outside the box line.

In this relationship report it shows 5 different ways of relationships. The
furtherest distant cousin has 8 generations.

If I choose  Print all the relationships with Each on New Page it shows
55 pages.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

I have tested using various settings and mine works perfectly. However, as
you did not state what your settings are I am unable to test your set-up.
Also what version of Legacy are you using? You might like to try FileFile
MaintenanceCheck/Repair, but I'm not optimistic. I can see no obvious way
of re-setting to the defaults. In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
the RelSet.usr file, but again I am not optimistic.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes out the same every time.
What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
printed fine.
I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
to calculate.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

Have you looked to see if the check box each on a new page is checked. If
it isn't and you still have the problem, then we will need to know all your
settings if we are to try and reproduce. Mine is OK, which doesn't help
much, other than to say that the problem is local to your machine/settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

After getting results of a calculation I had been able at first to get a
nice one page report.
Today when I select PRINT, then PREVIEW it shows 8 pages for a 6-generation
report and each page has only one generation with both people's names
bunched together on the far right side of the page, outside of the box.

Any suggestions?

Thelma L. Martin





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Thank you Thelma. At the moment I cannot see the cause of the problem. Would
you mind opening RelSet.usr in your text editor - Notepad will do fine - and
copy/paste the contents into another post please - as it's a text file this
will be OK. Assuming that you used the Legacy installation defaults you will
find the file in the C\Legacy folder.

As it is getting on for 2:00am here I am off to bed, so if anybody else
wishes to help solve the problem whilst I get some shut-eye please feel
free.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I have version 7.5  I have done the file maintenance but it made no
difference.

After running the RelationshipCalculator I chose PRINT then PREVIEW.
Settings were Birth and Death Years Marriage Date Put Boxes Around
Individuals

The first one of the common ancestors shows 6 generations on one side and 5
on the other.

If I choose Print the current relationship (without Each on New Page) it
shows 8 pages with a generation on each page and both lines of the
relationship bunched together on the left side outside the box line.

In this relationship report it shows 5 different ways of relationships. The
furtherest distant cousin has 8 generations.

If I choose  Print all the relationships with Each on New Page it shows
55 pages.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

I have tested using various settings and mine works perfectly. However, as
you did not state what your settings are I am unable to test your set-up.
Also what version of Legacy are you using? You might like to try FileFile
MaintenanceCheck/Repair, but I'm not optimistic. I can see no obvious way
of re-setting to the defaults. In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
the RelSet.usr file, but again I am not optimistic.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes out the same every time.
What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
printed fine.
I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
to calculate.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

Have you looked to see if the check box each on a new page is checked. If
it isn't and you still have the problem, then we will need to know all your
settings if we are to try and reproduce. Mine is OK, which doesn't help
much, other than to say that the problem is local to your machine/settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

After getting results of a calculation I had been able at first to get a
nice one page report.
Today when I select PRINT, then PREVIEW it shows 8 pages for a 6-generation
report and each page has only one generation with both people's names
bunched together on the far right side of the page, outside of the box.

Any suggestions?

Thelma L. Martin





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2012-08-01 Thread Thelma L. Martin 
I did not find RelSet.usr but did find a file RelChart.usr

Version 5.0.02  Relationship Report
104.059
4.826
3.175
3.175
3.175
1
Arial
Arial
Arial
Times New Roman
Times New Roman
Arial
Arial
Arial
Produced by Legacy
Relationship Chart
16777215
20.813
0
10.406
 0
 1
 1
 1
 0
 1
 0
 1
 0
 1
 1
 0
 0
 1
 1
 0
 1
 18
 1
 12
 1
 10
 0
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 0
 10
 0
 8
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 0
 6
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 100
 110
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 0
 0
 0
Native
 0

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thank you Thelma. At the moment I cannot see the cause of the problem. Would
you mind opening RelSet.usr in your text editor - Notepad will do fine - and
copy/paste the contents into another post please - as it's a text file this
will be OK. Assuming that you used the Legacy installation defaults you will
find the file in the C\Legacy folder.

As it is getting on for 2:00am here I am off to bed, so if anybody else
wishes to help solve the problem whilst I get some shut-eye please feel
free.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I have version 7.5  I have done the file maintenance but it made no
difference.

After running the RelationshipCalculator I chose PRINT then PREVIEW.
Settings were Birth and Death Years Marriage Date Put Boxes Around
Individuals

The first one of the common ancestors shows 6 generations on one side and 5
on the other.

If I choose Print the current relationship (without Each on New Page) it
shows 8 pages with a generation on each page and both lines of the
relationship bunched together on the left side outside the box line.

In this relationship report it shows 5 different ways of relationships. The
furtherest distant cousin has 8 generations.

If I choose  Print all the relationships with Each on New Page it shows
55 pages.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

I have tested using various settings and mine works perfectly. However, as
you did not state what your settings are I am unable to test your set-up.
Also what version of Legacy are you using? You might like to try FileFile
MaintenanceCheck/Repair, but I'm not optimistic. I can see no obvious way
of re-setting to the defaults. In the Legacy folder you could try deleting
the RelSet.usr file, but again I am not optimistic.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

I expermented by using just one relationship with each on a new page not
checked, with all relationships and each on a new page checked and it
comes out the same every time.
What puzzles me is that several weeks ago I did another relationship and it
printed fine.
I have over 338,000 people with many relationships so it takes 20-30 minutes
to calculate.

Thelma L. Martin
28090 CR 44
Nappanee, IN 45650

Phone  fax: 574-862-2930
Cell: 574-596-5412
- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator


Thelma,

Have you looked to see if the check box each on a new page is checked. If
it isn't and you still have the problem, then we will need to know all your
settings if we are to try and reproduce. Mine is OK, which doesn't help
much, other than to say that the problem is local to your machine/settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Thelma L. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

After getting results of a calculation I had been able at first to get a
nice one page report.
Today when I select PRINT, then PREVIEW it shows 8 pages for a 6-generation
report and each page has only one generation with both people's names
bunched together on the far right side of the page, outside of the box.

Any suggestions?

Thelma L. Martin





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-10 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
This won't help your problem. I just thought you and others may like to
know.

V6 would calculate relationships as you enter them automatically. V7
will not do that. One would need to run Set Relationships after entering
information from time to time. It is a shortcoming, but that is the way
it is.

--
Tim Rosenlof


On 7/9/2012 9:08 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:
 Hi Laird,

 This is what I like, true help.
 That is what I did. Works fine except for some individual tag descriptions
 that I will be able to re-enter (only 5 entries lost, that's all).
 Thanks again.

 Jacques

 -Original Message-
 From: Laird [mailto:lftu...@bayleenet.net]
 Sent: 9 juillet 2012 19:19
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not
 complete

 Hi Jacques,
 Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then
 import
 them into V6.
 Laird

 On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:

 Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main
 database
 contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never

 complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made

 over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can
 handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind going back 
 to
 V
 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is
 what I
 have to do.

 Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-10 Thread Michele Lewis 
Really?  That seems like a step backwards for a newer version.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not 
complete

This won't help your problem. I just thought you and others may like to know.

V6 would calculate relationships as you enter them automatically. V7 will not 
do that. One would need to run Set Relationships after entering information 
from time to time. It is a shortcoming, but that is the way it is.

--
Tim Rosenlof


On 7/9/2012 9:08 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:
 Hi Laird,

 This is what I like, true help.
 That is what I did. Works fine except for some individual tag descriptions
 that I will be able to re-enter (only 5 entries lost, that's all).
 Thanks again.

 Jacques

 -Original Message-
 From: Laird [mailto:lftu...@bayleenet.net]
 Sent: 9 juillet 2012 19:19
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not
 complete

 Hi Jacques,
 Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then
 import
 them into V6.
 Laird

 On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:

 Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main
 database
 contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never

 complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made

 over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can
 handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind going back 
 to
 V
 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is
 what I
 have to do.

 Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-10 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
Really

--
Tim Rosenlof


On 7/10/2012 8:23 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 Really?  That seems like a step backwards for a newer version.

 Michele


 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not 
 complete

 This won't help your problem. I just thought you and others may like to know.

 V6 would calculate relationships as you enter them automatically. V7 will not 
 do that. One would need to run Set Relationships after entering information 
 from time to time. It is a shortcoming, but that is the way it is.

 --
 Tim Rosenlof


 On 7/9/2012 9:08 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:
 Hi Laird,

 This is what I like, true help.
 That is what I did. Works fine except for some individual tag descriptions
 that I will be able to re-enter (only 5 entries lost, that's all).
 Thanks again.

 Jacques

 -Original Message-
 From: Laird [mailto:lftu...@bayleenet.net]
 Sent: 9 juillet 2012 19:19
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not
 complete

 Hi Jacques,
 Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then
 import
 them into V6.
 Laird

 On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:

 Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main
 database
 contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never

 complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made

 over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can
 handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind 
 going back to
 V
 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is
 what I
 have to do.

 Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-10 Thread Jan Roberts 
Wasn't the reasoning that due to requests for non-blood relationships to be 
calculated also (such as in-laws) it would slow the program down if 
relationships were automatically being re-calculated every time a new person 
was added?

Cheers
Jan
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Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 00:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not 
complete

Really

--
Tim Rosenlof


On 7/10/2012 8:23 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 Really?  That seems like a step backwards for a newer version.

 Michele






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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-10 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
Yes, that is the exact reason.

--
Tim Rosenlof


On 7/10/2012 9:13 AM, Jan Roberts wrote:
 Wasn't the reasoning that due to requests for non-blood relationships to be 
 calculated also (such as in-laws) it would slow the program down if 
 relationships were automatically being re-calculated every time a new person 
 was added?

 Cheers
 Jan
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 00:34
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not 
 complete

 Really





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-10 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
The complaint was made that when auto add was 'on' in a file with over XK (mine 
is 26K) it took a lot of stand-by time as the computer re-calculated on each 
new person.  It might take an hour to add 100 people (in one at a time mode), 
so unless you had a way to create a 'group' before Legacy, each time you added 
a person, it reset.  You can still add exactly one person, save the DB, then 
add another person, one at a time. Enjoy.
Rich in LA CA



 From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not 
complete

This won't help your problem. I just thought you and others may like to
know.

V6 would calculate relationships as you enter them automatically. V7
will not do that. One would need to run Set Relationships after entering
information from time to time. It is a shortcoming, but that is the way
it is.

--
Tim Rosenlof


On 7/9/2012 9:08 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:
 Hi Laird,

 This is what I like, true help.
 That is what I did. Works fine except for some individual tag descriptions
 that I will be able to re-enter (only 5 entries lost, that's all).
 Thanks again.

 Jacques

 -Original Message-
 From: Laird [mailto:lftu...@bayleenet.net]
 Sent: 9 juillet 2012 19:19
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not
 complete

 Hi Jacques,
 Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then
 import
 them into V6.
 Laird

 On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:

 Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main
 database
 contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never

 complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made

 over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can
 handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind going back 
 to
 V
 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is
 what I
 have to do.

 Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-10 Thread Sherry/Support 
You don't need to *save* the Family File after adding individuals,
unless you're referring to *backing up* the file before calculating
relationships.  Which really isn't necessary because that doesn't
actually change any data in the file - it just calculates the
relationships for you and they can always be redone.

When you click on the Save button in the edit window, the data you
have just entered is saved.  That's the way database programs work.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 The complaint was made that when auto add was 'on' in a file with over XK
 (mine is 26K) it took a lot of stand-by time as the computer re-calculated
 on each new person.  It might take an hour to add 100 people (in one at a
 time mode), so unless you had a way to create a 'group' before Legacy, each
 time you added a person, it reset.  You can still add exactly one person,
 save the DB, then add another person, one at a time. Enjoy.
 Rich in LA CA




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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-09 Thread Jacques E Decarie 
Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main
database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and
CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4
weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know if
Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go on. I don't mind
going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now
if that is what I have to do.

Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-09 Thread Sherry/Support 
You might check to see how many relationships you have selected to calcuate

10 is generally more than sufficient for blood and 5 for non-blood
unless you have a lot of royals or other intermingled marriages.

Too many relationships in the selection can slow the process down.

Also, back up the Family File (File  Backup Family File) and run File
 FIle Maintenance  Check/Repair before setting or calculating the
relationships.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jacques E Decarie jedeca...@gmail.com wrote:
 Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main
 database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and
 CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4
 weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know if
 Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go on. I don’t mind
 going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now
 if that is what I have to do.

 Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-09 Thread Ron Taylor 
I have over 230,000 in my main Legacy database and I set relationships 
regularly for different people in the file.  Works fine.  Perhaps you have a 
few people with circular relationships (they are their own descendant).  I 
usually set the non-blood relationships to zero and the blood relationships to 
5.  It takes about 2 minutes and 35 seconds.  While working the counter shows 
just above the Set Relationships button.  Does your counter show any activity 
or is it stalled at some point?
Ron Taylor

--- On Mon, 7/9/12, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not 
 complete
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 1:11 PM
 You might check to see how many
 relationships you have selected to calcuate

 10 is generally more than sufficient for blood and 5 for
 non-blood
 unless you have a lot of royals or other intermingled
 marriages.

 Too many relationships in the selection can slow the process
 down.

 Also, back up the Family File (File  Backup Family File)
 and run File
  FIle Maintenance  Check/Repair before setting or
 calculating the
 relationships.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jacques E Decarie jedeca...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5
 Deluxe. My main
  database contains over 270 000 individuals. The
 relationship SET and
  CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30
 minutes). In the last 4
  weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my
 database. I need to know if
  Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go
 on. I don’t mind
  going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records
 but I need to know now
  if that is what I have to do.
 
  Any help and comments from users with similar
 experience would be greatly
  appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-09 Thread Jacques E Decarie 
Hi Ron,



Thank you very much for the feedback.



I use the same input on my old computer running V6.0 and (identical
converted fdb) on the new computer running V7.5. Operations complete in a
few seconds on V6.0 and hundreds of relationship are identified. So there
are no loops in the file. And yes there is plenty of activity in the
computer ; Legacy issues over 30 000 000 000 bytes in i/o operations while
doing the relationship calculations.



In the meantime, I received a message from Jim, Technical Support, Legacy
Family Tree, stating that :

This problem has been reported by other users. It was logged for the
programmers' attention as issue 3699 Incomplete relationship calculations.
A future update may contain the solution. I regret that I do not have a
work-around for it. Thank you for taking the time to report this problem.
Your efforts will help improve Legacy and make it a better program.



I am pretty sure they will eventually figure out what is going on but, I
have no choice, I am going back to V6.



I held back several months before going to V7.5, especially to avoid this
kind of unfortunate problems. Just whish the Legacy team would make
available a list of known bugs (or known issues) before they let us convert.



Thanks again Ron,



Sincerely,



Jacques





-Original Message-
From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 9 juillet 2012 17:01
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not
complete



I have over 230,000 in my main Legacy database and I set relationships
regularly for different people in the file.  Works fine.  Perhaps you have a
few people with circular relationships (they are their own descendant).  I
usually set the non-blood relationships to zero and the blood relationships
to 5.  It takes about 2 minutes and 35 seconds.  While working the counter
shows just above the Set Relationships button.  Does your counter show any
activity or is it stalled at some point?

Ron Taylor



--- On Mon, 7/9/12, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do
not complete

 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

 Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 1:11 PM

 You might check to see how many

 relationships you have selected to calcuate



 10 is generally more than sufficient for blood and 5 for

 non-blood

 unless you have a lot of royals or other intermingled

 marriages.



 Too many relationships in the selection can slow the process

 down.



 Also, back up the Family File (File  Backup Family File)

 and run File

  FIle Maintenance  Check/Repair before setting or

 calculating the

 relationships.





 Sincerely,

 Sherry

 Technical Support

 Legacy Family Tree





 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jacques E Decarie jedeca...@gmail.com

 wrote:

  Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5

 Deluxe. My main

  database contains over 270 000 individuals. The

 relationship SET and

  CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30

 minutes). In the last 4

  weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my

 database. I need to know if

  Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go

 on. I don't mind

  going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records

 but I need to know now

  if that is what I have to do.

 

  Any help and comments from users with similar

 experience would be greatly

  appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.







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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-09 Thread Laird 
Hi Jacques,
Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then import
them into V6.
Laird

On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:

 Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main database
 contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never
 complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made
 over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can
 handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind going back to V
 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is what I
 have to do.

 Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete

2012-07-09 Thread Jacques E Decarie 
Hi Laird,

This is what I like, true help.
That is what I did. Works fine except for some individual tag descriptions
that I will be able to re-enter (only 5 entries lost, that's all).
Thanks again.

Jacques

-Original Message-
From: Laird [mailto:lftu...@bayleenet.net]
Sent: 9 juillet 2012 19:19
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not
complete

Hi Jacques,
Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then
import
them into V6.
Laird

On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote:

 Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main
database
 contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never

 complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made

 over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can
 handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind going back to
V
 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is
what I
 have to do.

 Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly
 appreciated. Thanks. Jacques.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2012-04-11 Thread Paula Ryburn 
This does work - I just saw it work for me yesterday. ;)
 --Paula





From: Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, April 10, 2012 7:49:12 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

I have a couple who married, but were also cousins of some description.
  I've just tried to use the relationship calculator to find out what
sort of cousins they were but it only says that they were husband and wife.

Is there any way to override that and get it to ignore their marriage
(without unmarrying them and remarrying them)?

Thanks

Tony



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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2012-04-10 Thread Tony Rolfe 
I have a couple who married, but were also cousins of some description.
  I've just tried to use the relationship calculator to find out what
sort of cousins they were but it only says that they were husband and wife.

Is there any way to override that and get it to ignore their marriage
(without unmarrying them and remarrying them)?

Thanks

Tony



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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2012-04-10 Thread Michele Lewis 
I am so glad you asked this!  I had had this come up with several people in my 
file (lots of inbreeding in rural Mississippi! :) :) :)

Michele

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I have a couple who married, but were also cousins of some description.
  I've just tried to use the relationship calculator to find out what sort of 
cousins they were but it only says that they were husband and wife.

Is there any way to override that and get it to ignore their marriage (without 
unmarrying them and remarrying them)?

Thanks

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2012-04-10 Thread Terri Brown 
Try increasing the Blood Relationships limit. I have mine set to 5 and it shows 
the husband/wife relationship as well as the cousin relationship. You will find 
this setting on the bottom left of the Relationship Calculator under Settings 
used to Calculate Relationships
 
Terri


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Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:49 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

I have a couple who married, but were also cousins of some description.
  I've just tried to use the relationship calculator to find out what
sort of cousins they were but it only says that they were husband and wife.

Is there any way to override that and get it to ignore their marriage
(without unmarrying them and remarrying them)?

Thanks

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2012-04-10 Thread Ron Taylor 
Set the non-blood relationships to zero.  This works in both Set 
Relationships and in the Relationship Calculator.
Ron Taylor

--- On Tue, 4/10/12, Marg genet...@wave.co.nz wrote:

From: Marg genet...@wave.co.nz
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 7:32 PM

Make sure you ask for all relationships when you run the calculator. I don't 
have Legacy with me so can't see if it currently works - used to.




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Tony Rolfe geneal...@gillandtony.com wrote:


I have a couple who married, but were also cousins of some description.
  I've just tried to use the relationship calculator to find out what
sort of cousins they were but it only says that they were married...




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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2012-04-10 Thread Tony Rolfe 
Stupid me!  I hadn't merged the two people who were the common ancestor.

Now it works fine.

Thanks for all the help

Tony



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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread Gensearcher 
Hello Listers
I have  a James BROOKS who  I wrongly thought was connected to my family
some years ago
Now I find that he is not connected and I have separated him from my family
HOWEVER he is still shown as Second great grandfather
I don't  know how to get rid of the relationship
How do I do it
John
Manchester England



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread CE WOOD 
Have you run Relationship Calculator since you disconnected him?  Relationships 
change only when you do.

CE
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  Hello Listers
  I have  a James BROOKS who  I wrongly thought was connected to my family
  some years ago
  Now I find that he is not connected and I have separated him from my family
  HOWEVER he is still shown as Second great grandfather
  I don't  know how to get rid of the relationship
  How do I do it
  John
  Manchester England

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek 
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:37:19 -, Gensearcher gensearc...@sky.com
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I don't  know how to get rid of the relationship
How do I do it

Clear all relationships and recompute them.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread Gensearcher 
Hello Dennis
How do I clear relationships
John

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On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:37:19 -, Gensearcher gensearc...@sky.com
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I don't  know how to get rid of the relationship
How do I do it

Clear all relationships and recompute them.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek 
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:06:23 -, Gensearcher gensearc...@sky.com
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How do I clear relationships

Look in the Help under Set Relationships.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
Tools  Set Relationships. At the bottom of the dialog you will see both
'set' and 'clear'

Tim Rosenlof


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 How do I clear relationships
 John


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread Gensearcher 
hello Dennis and CE
I have now discovered how to re set my relationships
Thanks for your help
John

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On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:06:23 -, Gensearcher gensearc...@sky.com
wrote:

How do I clear relationships

Look in the Help under Set Relationships.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator

2011-12-24 Thread Gensearcher 
Hello Tim
Thanks I have now reset my relationships
John

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Tools  Set Relationships. At the bottom of the dialog you will see both
'set' and 'clear'

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 How do I clear relationships
 John


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator Question

2011-06-13 Thread Randy Clark 
Yes.

Ok, I'll do it. It indicates a member of a generation younger than the
starting person.

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM, ChuckH44 . chuck...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I’m new to Legacy and trying to find my way around.

 In playing with the Relationship Calculator I came up with a result that I
 can find no explanation for.

 That would be the asterisk at the end of some relationship results.

 Example:Relationship:1st Cousin once removed *

 Can someone explain what the asterisk represents?

 Thanks,

 Chuck H.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator Question

2011-06-13 Thread ChuckH44 . 

Thanks Randy but could there be more to it?

If I run the Relationship Calculator between myself and a first cousin that I 
know is younger than I, I don't see the asterisk.

If I run it against a 2nd cousin, I don't see it. (Younger than me)

But when I run it against the child of the second cousin, then it shows up. 
This comes up as:  Relationship  2nd cousin once removed * 

But something else that I found while playing with it. If I hit the Swap 
button, the asterisk goes away.

Any thoughts?

Chuck H.

Note: Hopefully this finds it's way to the correct thread. I'm not receiving 
the LUG messages in my e-mail box, although I have subscribed.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator Question

2011-06-13 Thread Wendy Howard 
It isn't that the one person is younger (which is always going to be the
case unless they were born on the same day in the same year), but is a
comment about generational differences.  From the Help files
(Relationship, asterisks):

If the relationship shown is a cousin type, it will show the kind of
cousin (first, second, etc.) and how many generations removed, in the
form of 1C2R (first cousin, twice removed). If the generations removed
are in the descendant direction, meaning that the cousin is in a
generation younger than the starting person, an *asterisk* is shown
after the relationship indicator.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

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*Sent:* Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:46:27 -0700
*From:* ChuckH44 . chuck...@hotmail.com
*To:*   LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com


 Thanks Randy but could there be more to it?

 If I run the Relationship Calculator between myself and a first cousin
 that I know is younger than I, I don't see the asterisk.

 If I run it against a 2nd cousin, I don't see it. (Younger than me)

 But when I run it against the child of the second cousin, then it
 shows up. This comes up as:  Relationship  2nd cousin once removed * 

 But something else that I found while playing with it. If I hit the
 Swap button, the asterisk goes away.

 Any thoughts?

 Chuck H


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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator Question

2011-06-13 Thread CE Wood 
It has nothing to do with chronological age, it has to do with level of 
relationship.

A first cousin is on the same generational level as you - no matter what your 
ages are.  You have the same grandparents.

A 2nd cousin once removed means that you are on different generational levels 
even if you are the same age.  The person who is your great-grandparent is the 
other person's great-great-grandparent.  The parent of your second cousin once 
removed is your second cousin - you have the same great-grandparent.  Once 
removed means that person is a child of your second cousin.  If twice removed, 
that person would be the grandchild of your second cousin.


CE


From: ChuckH44 . [mailto:chuck...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator Question

Thanks Randy but could there be more to it?

If I run the Relationship Calculator between myself and a first cousin that I 
know is younger than I, I don't see the asterisk.

If I run it against a 2nd cousin, I don't see it. (Younger than me)

But when I run it against the child of the second cousin, then it shows up. 
This comes up as:  Relationship  2nd cousin once removed * 

But something else that I found while playing with it. If I hit the Swap 
button, the asterisk goes away.

Any thoughts?

Chuck H.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator Question

2011-06-13 Thread ChuckH44 . 

Thanks folks the light bulb has switched on and I think I got it now. I 
think.  :-)

 I  didn't pick up on Randy's answer concerning generation itself.

Also had tunnel vision when I went to Help and was focused so much on the 
Relationship Calculator information that I completely missed the Relationship 
Asterisk note.

And if I understand this correctly, the * disappeared with the Swap button 
because the relationship was then ascending rather than descending, generation 
wise.

Chuck H.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator - why Swap?

2010-05-02 Thread Mary Young 
On 30 April 2010 02:15, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 Mary,

 How is the not related line shown between you and Frank when he is in
 the left position? As the husband of your aunt. He is not related to you
 by blood. However, the not related line should show that you are, the
 niece of his wife.

Whether at left or right position, George Frank is shown as my 1st
cousin twice removed.
When he is In right position, he is shown as Husband of Aunt
However, when he's in left position, the not related line says Not
Related where I would expect to see Niece of Wife.
See image http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3485/4571989067_14e052e810_b.jpg

BTW when I first ran this report, my Aunt Gertrude (George Frank's
wife) showed on the Relationship Calculator, but she is not shown
anywhere now, neither in these Calculator boxes, nor the printed
charts.

Mary Young
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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator - why Swap?

2010-05-02 Thread Brian/Support 
If you select the not related line in the Rel Calc, how is the path
between them described. Your online pictures do not include that.

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On 02/05/2010 5:50 PM, Mary Young wrote:
 On 30 April 2010 02:15, Brian/Supportbr...@legacyfamilytree.com  wrote:
 Mary,

 How is the not related line shown between you and Frank when he is in
 the left position? As the husband of your aunt. He is not related to you
 by blood. However, the not related line should show that you are, the
 niece of his wife.

 Whether at left or right position, George Frank is shown as my 1st
 cousin twice removed.
 When he is In right position, he is shown as Husband of Aunt
 However, when he's in left position, the not related line says Not
 Related where I would expect to see Niece of Wife.
 See image http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3485/4571989067_14e052e810_b.jpg

 BTW when I first ran this report, my Aunt Gertrude (George Frank's
 wife) showed on the Relationship Calculator, but she is not shown
 anywhere now, neither in these Calculator boxes, nor the printed
 charts.

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[LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator - why Swap?

2010-04-29 Thread Mary Young 
What is the point of Swapping the Left and Right Person - why does
Swapping show a different result?
For instance, my mother's sister married their father's cousin, Frank.
With myself as Left Person and Frank as Right Person, I get two
relationships:  Frank is first cousin twice removed, and husband of
aunt.
Swapping to Frank as Left Person, he is still first cousin twice
removed; but underneath that, in blue letters, Not related.
Doesn't any relationship hold true both ways?  If Frank is husband of
aunt am I not equally niece of wife?
Puzzled ...
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[LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator Gives Run-Time Error

2010-04-29 Thread Mike Fry 
The RC has begun to give a run-time error 3265 when using the Relative
Navigator.

Have done exactly as suggested on the web-site, but it makes no difference.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator - why Swap?

2010-04-29 Thread Brian/Support 
Mary,

How is the not related line shown between you and Frank when he is in
the left position? As the husband of your aunt. He is not related to you
by blood. However, the not related line should show that you are, the
niece of his wife.

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On 29/04/2010 6:43 PM, Mary Young wrote:
 What is the point of Swapping the Left and Right Person - why does
 Swapping show a different result?
 For instance, my mother's sister married their father's cousin, Frank.
 With myself as Left Person and Frank as Right Person, I get two
 relationships:  Frank is first cousin twice removed, and husband of
 aunt.
 Swapping to Frank as Left Person, he is still first cousin twice
 removed; but underneath that, in blue letters, Not related.
 Doesn't any relationship hold true both ways?  If Frank is husband of
 aunt am I not equally niece of wife?
 Puzzled ...
 Mary Young



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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2010-03-27 Thread Jan Herdsman 
Please don’t scrap it, Please just fix it, it was a feature I used in PAF and 
would like to continue to use it without using multiple programs.

Regards

janet



From: John S. Adams [mailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2010 12:49 PM
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Bryan,
I certainly don't use all of Legacy's features--some are well beyond my needs 
or abilities.  However, the Relationship Calculator is one I would use happily 
and frequently, if it would work right.  It never has.
John Adams

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 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator
 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:29:07 -0700

 On 3/26/2010 5:13 PM, John S. Adams wrote:
  Hope springs eternal.
 
 snip
  This feature has been fouled up at least since Ver. 4. Legacy, please fix
  it or scrap it.
 
  John S. Adams
  Hermosa Beach, CA
 
 
 
 Hi John,

 Maybe you could help me. I've been looking in the manual and can't seem
 to find where it states that you have to use all the features. I'm
 concerned about what the consequences would be. :)

 --
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 Hood River, OR
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[LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2010-03-26 Thread John S. Adams 
Hope springs eternal.  When I reviewed the revision list for the 25 March
build (version 7.4.0.25) and I saw, Relationship Calculator - Many
refinements and bug fixes..., I had hopes that Legacy had at last actually
made this a useful tool.  However,..

When I try to use it, everything except the most straight forward,
direct-line relationships are garbled or incorrect. Except for
half-siblings, it appears that half relationships are ignored.  Even the
half sibling chart is incorrect, showing as the common ancestors only one of
the spouses of the common parent.  When there are several relationship
paths, and the Print all the relationships option is selected on the Print
Chart screen, Preview shows
one of the paths correctly, but all the others have missing generations or
have generations out of order.

I was going to try to start a log of RC errors in hopes that I could provide
Legacy with some clues that would help bug corrections.  But I gave up when
I realized it would be a lot easier to list the correct scenarios than the
errors.

This feature has been fouled up at least since Ver. 4.  Legacy, please fix
it or scrap it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2010-03-26 Thread Brian Schultz 
On 3/26/2010 5:13 PM, John S. Adams wrote:
 Hope springs eternal.

snip
 This feature has been fouled up at least since Ver. 4.  Legacy, please fix
 it or scrap it.

 John S. Adams
 Hermosa Beach, CA



Hi John,

Maybe you could help me. I've been looking in the manual and can't seem
to find where it states that you have to use all the features. I'm
concerned about what the consequences would be. :)

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Hood River, OR
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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2010-03-26 Thread John S. Adams 

Bryan,
I certainly don't use all of Legacy's features--some are well beyond my needs 
or abilities.  However, the Relationship Calculator is one I would use happily 
and frequently, if it would work right.  It never has.
John Adams

 From: briansfamilyhist...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator
 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:29:07 -0700

 On 3/26/2010 5:13 PM, John S. Adams wrote:
  Hope springs eternal.
 
 snip
  This feature has been fouled up at least since Ver. 4.  Legacy, please fix
  it or scrap it.
 
  John S. Adams
  Hermosa Beach, CA
 
 
 
 Hi John,

 Maybe you could help me. I've been looking in the manual and can't seem
 to find where it states that you have to use all the features. I'm
 concerned about what the consequences would be. :)

 --
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 Hood River, OR
 briansfamilyhist...@gmail.com




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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

2010-03-26 Thread CE Wood 
AMEN TO THAT!!!  But they really don't care.  Or else they don't care to admit 
it is beyond the scope of the Access based program or their programming skills. 
 What the heck does it matter what your direct relationships are anyway; it’s 
not as if this is a genealogical program.


CE

From: John S. Adams [mailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship Calculator

Bryan,
I certainly don't use all of Legacy's features--some are well beyond my needs 
or abilities.  However, the Relationship Calculator is one I would use happily 
and frequently, if it would work right.  It never has.
John Adams




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