Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? win2000 and xp already have the all drivers installed--you do not need to install any. you will need to uninstall the floppy driver you installed and try installing the floppy then. if it does not work you will need to reinstall 2000 in a new diretory and then unistall the old installation because you have screwed up the windows kernel --- John Niemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:04:50 +0300 > From: John Niemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Libretto floppy drive install? > > Hi, > > I put win98se in my L100, and now I have a slight > problem; how do I install the > floppy drivers? I downloaded the toshiba floppy > .exe. file and ran it, it did > something but the drive still doesn't work. What > should I do next, it seemed to > install/copy something thru windows command prompt > but it seems that the > drivers don't still work. Please tell me very > explicitly what to do next, it's > been a very long time since I've had to install > drivers the "win95/98 way" > > -John > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 06:31:02 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Maybe someone else has worked this all out. I'd sure like to know what the > answer is for future reference. 1) format the HD, then install everything correctly from scratch. worked fine on my Libretto. Kind of an extreme course of action just to get a floppy drive working isn't it? 2) delete the floppy drive with bad drivers in the device manager, locate the *.inf file for the floppy drive in the \windows directory or subdirectories, open it up, find all files (drivers) that it will use that will be copied to the windows directory, then delete all referenced files + the *.inf file and reboot. that'll usually get rid of all bad/old drivers completely. Those would be: C:\Windows\inf\Tsfdc.inf C:\Windows\inf\other\Y-E Dataflbfd.inf And there's no files referenced in them. The FDD entry in DM only reported 2 files being used to enable the FDD: C:\Windows\System\iosubysy\Flbfd.pdr C:\Windows\System\VMM32\IOS.vxd In order to find out what other files Windows might look to for alternatives, I had to start disabling them one by one starting with Flbfd.pdr, and attempt reinstalling the drivers. Windows wasn't happy with >any< of my attempts to disable things to get it to accept the drivers I pointed it to, and would merrily go on it's own way to find one after another after another file it thought should do the job. I did track down all the .inf files I could find by going through that process David, plus a couple other types of files. And after disabling everything Windows threw at me, it ended up pretending it had found a non-existing Flbfd.pdr in a non-existing location as reported in DM. At that point I gave up, and was glad when it only took me a couple of heart attacks before I managed to get my original C:\Windows\System\iosubysy\Flbfd.pdr driver file working again. It just >two< sliiy files! Why is it so hard to get them working? I'm guessing that John had probably still beating his head against the wall trying to resolve this issue on his Libby. Matt Libretto list info: Libretto list archive #1: http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi Libretto list archive #2: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/ To unsubscribe: http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2004/msg01419.html
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:39:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? > Maybe someone else has worked this all out. I'd sure like to know what the > answer is for future reference. 1) format the HD, then install everything correctly from scratch. worked fine on my Libretto. 2) delete the floppy drive with bad drivers in the device manager, locate the *.inf file for the floppy drive in the \windows directory or subdirectories, open it up, find all files (drivers) that it will use that will be copied to the windows directory, then delete all referenced files + the *.inf file and reboot. that'll usually get rid of all bad/old drivers completely. adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:39:15 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll post this, and then try again using the instructions in the README in the L110FDD8.exe archive Lee pointed to. Oh man... I tried all kinds of approaches too numerous for me to document right now. In the end I failed miserably at each. I restored the file names for the original FDD drivers I had renamed to disable them, and for a moment after rebooting thought I'd really $#%!ed my own setup. Windows 98SE wants to fall back on a driver named "Toshiba PCMCIA Floppy' which I wasn't able to make operational. But with my original drivers in place, I went to the error icon for the FDD driver in DM, went to Properties > Update driver > Update Wizard > Search for a better driver > Specify location (my path was already there). The next window reported I already had the best driver installed. But I selected the 2nd option below which was something like "Select other location". In there was an option to set up the "Y-E Data External FDD (Libretto)" with the correct path to the folder with my extracted FDD drivers. Because I just restored the correct file names, the floppy finally was re-enabled. These were the driver files I renamed to disable: C:\Windows\System\iosubysy\Flbfd.pdr C:\Windows\Cabs\Flbfd.pdr I had tried that same method several times, but I had disabled the existing files by renaming them to Flbfd.pd_, and the process failed to enable the FDD each time. With the original file names corrected, the drive finally was re-enabled. The only two files the L100 FDD seems to have set up to work are: C:\Windows\System\iosubysy\Flbfd.pdr C:\Windows\System\VMM32\IOS.vxd But IOS.vxd is needed for more than just the FDD. I renamed it, and Windows failed to boot complaining it was missing. I had to rename it in DOS and reboot. So I don't know what the answer is for setting up the correct Win98(SE) L100 FDD drivers once the incorrect drivers are installed. After removing the driver in DM and attempting to install new ones, Windows continually auto-finds several drivers that always fail to enable the FDD. Even when I disabled the last file Windows was finding, C:\Windows\inf\other\Y-E Datafldfd.inf, and finally getting Windows to access it's \Win98 files and ask for the correct path to the drivers, it still didn't set up that Flbfd.pdr file where it had been originally working. The result was an error icon in DM, and details on the drivers showed a path to a non-existant Flbfd.pdr with no path at all in front of it. And it wasn't in the C: root. I tried putting one there and rebooting, but that failed too. Maybe someone else has worked this all out. I'd sure like to know what the answer is for future reference. Matt Libretto list info: Libretto list archive #1: http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi Libretto list archive #2: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/ To unsubscribe: http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2004/msg01419.html
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:53:22 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Hmmm... It seems my long post on this floppy the other night didn't make it
to the list.
I attempted to uninstall, and then reinstall the FDD drivers on my L100 the
other night. But using files from 3 different FDD driver packages, I failed
to get any to install.
I used the process I outlined previously to try installing drivers from
L100FDD8.zip (I said .exe before, but it's a .zip file), L110FDD8.exe that
contains files that match the ones Lee reported, and L100ctrl.exe that
Toshiba support lists as "Toshiba Windows 95 Controls for Libretto 100CT".
It was the last package there that I've been using to set up the FDD for the
L100.
But every time Windows rebooted, it would go ahead and set up the same
drivers that had previously been installed. Device Manager hadn't deleted
them when I removed the FDD driver entry. So I renamed the one file it was
reporting:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS\Flbfd.pdr
Short story, it found a couple of backups at reboot, and set them up
automatically.
I renamed those, and on reboot, I was told the drivers had been successfully
installed. But looking at the paths for the driver in DM, there was no such
Flbfd.pdr where it was pointing. And each time, the drivers I pointed the
"New hardware found" window to didn't get installed. And the FDD wasn't
operational.
Then I tried "Add new hardware" from Control Panel for each of the 3 sets of
FDD drivers I have. Each time Windows complained that the drivers I pointed
to weren't the correct ones for the FDD. It would then go ahead and either
set up a non-existing lbfd.pdr, leaving an error icon for the FDD in DM, or
find one I hadn't renamed.
In the end, I had to rename the original Flbfd.pdr file back to its default
to get the FDD to work again.
I'll post this, and then try again using the instructions in the README in
the L110FDD8.exe archive Lee pointed to. The one in my L100FDD8.zip didn't
make any sense, wanting to install the driver from a floppy in the FDD in
Windows before any FDD driver was loaded! But the one in L110FDD8.exe says
to merely right click on TSBFLBFD.INF, and choose "Install". Sounds simple.
Let's see.
Matt
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> The FDD
> doesn't seem to be very particular about drivers.
>
> But it seems any of the drivers we've mentioned should install fine by
going
> through the process I outlined. I've don't recall running any such .bat
> file as John described.
>
> Matt
>
I guess I would disagree. When I set up W98se on my L100, the floppy drive
was unusable except under DOS - and I had installed the W95 utilities
package -
until I installed the W98 L110 FDD driver.
This FDD driver listed under the L110 drivers at the Tosh site has been
used
on even the L50/70 running W98, IIRC, by some listers in the past (Neil?).
It's functionality is not exclusive to the L110, or the L1xx series,
apparently.
There's no .bat file to run for this L110 FDD driver, just unzip it, read
the
readme, do what it says to do - voila! But as usual, if there are any
other
FDD drivers installed ahead of it, they must be deleted ("removed") through
Device Manager first, otherwise bad things will transpire.
Lee
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:54:40 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
In a message dated 5/1/2005 3:54:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The FDD
> doesn't seem to be very particular about drivers.
>
> But it seems any of the drivers we've mentioned should install fine by going
> through the process I outlined. I've don't recall running any such .bat
> file as John described.
>
> Matt
>
I guess I would disagree. When I set up W98se on my L100, the floppy drive
was unusable except under DOS - and I had installed the W95 utilities package -
until I installed the W98 L110 FDD driver.
This FDD driver listed under the L110 drivers at the Tosh site has been used
on even the L50/70 running W98, IIRC, by some listers in the past (Neil?).
It's functionality is not exclusive to the L110, or the L1xx series, apparently.
There's no .bat file to run for this L110 FDD driver, just unzip it, read the
readme, do what it says to do - voila! But as usual, if there are any other
FDD drivers installed ahead of it, they must be deleted ("removed") through
Device Manager first, otherwise bad things will transpire.
Lee
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:54:23 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IIRC, the Toshiba W98 FDD driver is a zipped file that, when unzipped, contains a readme file with explicit instructions on driver installation. As I recall, it's not completely straightforward. You may need to delete whatever may have showed up in Device Manager from your first attempt before proceeding. Am I mistaken in assuming that what's needed is the Windows 98 floppy disk driver, listed only under the L110CT drivers on the Tosh support pages? I don't believe that the W95 FDD driver will give the functionality needed under W98. The driver file I'm looking at is identified as "L110FDD8.exe", listed under the L110CT drivers, Huh... to make things fuzzier, I have a file named 'L100FDD8.exe', not 'L110FDD8.exe', in my Libretto driver archives, but I don't remember where I got it or why I stopped using it. The Toshiba USA driver download pages are a bit %#*!ed up, as there's nothing listed specifically for Win95/98 floppy drivers among the L100 driver downloads. Thus the confusion. In the past serveral months I had benen setting up and troubleshooting that dead L110 MB, swapping the L100 & L110 MBs and setting up W98SE numerous times. Somewhere along the way when setting up the FDD, I started to heading to the folder on my G: drive where I'd extracted the drivers from the archive 'L100ctrl.exe' called 'Toshiba Windows 95 Controls for Libretto 100CT' on the Toshiba download pages, and it's been working fine. The FDD doesn't seem to be very particular about drivers. But it seems any of the drivers we've mentioned should install fine by going through the process I outlined. I've don't recall running any such .bat file as John described. Matt Libretto list info: Libretto list archive #1: http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi Libretto list archive #2: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/ To unsubscribe: http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2004/msg01419.html > Yes, it's a zipped file (fddrv_l110_101.zip) but it hasn't any readme files > in > it. This is the content of the zip file; > FLBFD.INF > FLBFD.PDR > FLBFDVSD.VXD > SETUP.BAT > TSBFLBFD.INF > > And like I said, when I run the .bat file, it copies some files thru dos > command > prompt and that's where I'm now stuck as the fdd still doesn't work after the > files have been copied. Any documentation or help what to do next or what the > complete install procedure is would be handy... > The driver file I'm looking at is identified as "L110FDD8.exe", listed under the L110CT drivers, and it's described by Toshiba as a self-extracting zip file. This is the one I used, and have had no problems, with W98se on a L100CT. BTW, the Tosh support page is now including the U100 as a choice when selecting the Libretto category. There's nothing really there yet but a bunch of generic service bulletins, and a users manual. Lee
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:41:02 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? In a message dated 5/1/2005 6:22:57 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > IIRC, the Toshiba W98 FDD driver is a zipped file that, when unzipped, > > contains a readme file with explicit instructions on driver installation. > As > > I > > recall, it's not completely straightforward. You may need to delete > whatever > > may > > have showed up in Device Manager from your first attempt before proceeding. > > > > Lee > > > > > > Yes, it's a zipped file (fddrv_l110_101.zip) but it hasn't any readme files > in > it. This is the content of the zip file; > FLBFD.INF > FLBFD.PDR > FLBFDVSD.VXD > SETUP.BAT > TSBFLBFD.INF > > And like I said, when I run the .bat file, it copies some files thru dos > command > prompt and that's where I'm now stuck as the fdd still doesn't work after the > files have been copied. Any documentation or help what to do next or what the > complete install procedure is would be handy... > The driver file I'm looking at is identified as "L110FDD8.exe", listed under the L110CT drivers, and it's described by Toshiba as a self-extracting zip file. This is the one I used, and have had no problems, with W98se on a L100CT. BTW, the Tosh support page is now including the U100 as a choice when selecting the Libretto category. There's nothing really there yet but a bunch of generic service bulletins, and a users manual. Lee
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:31:12 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? In a message dated 5/1/2005 12:16:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > I put win98se in my L100, and now I have a slight problem; how do I > >install > > > the > > > floppy drivers? I downloaded the toshiba floppy .exe. file and ran it, > >it did > > > something but the drive still doesn't work. What should I do next, it > >seemed > > > to > > > install/copy something thru windows command prompt but it seems that the > > > drivers don't still work. Please tell me very explicitly what to do > >next, > > > it's > > > been a very long time since I've had to install drivers the "win95/98 > >way" > > > > > > -John > > > > > > >IIRC, the Toshiba W98 FDD driver is a zipped file that, when unzipped, > >contains a readme file with explicit instructions on driver installation. > >As I > >recall, it's not completely straightforward. You may need to delete > >whatever may > >have showed up in Device Manager from your first attempt before proceeding. > > * Remove anything in Window's Device Manager that may have a yellow/black > error icon. > * Unpack the "Toshiba Windows 95 Controls for Libretto 100CT ' driver file > l100ctrl.exe for your L100 (found on Toshiba USA support pages) with the > file FDCMON.VXD in it to a folder > * Shut the system down > * Connect the floppy drive > * Boot the system. > * When the "New Hardware Found" window pops up, select the "Search for > drivers" option (I think it is). > * On the next window, >make sure the option to search the A: floppy drive is > >disabled<< (or you'll be waiting forever). At the bottom of the window > you can browse to the folder where you put the Lib controls drivers, and > select it. Then just proceed with the process and you should be set. > > Toshiba support & downloads: > > http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_home.jsp > > Yes... Windows 95 seems a bit odd. > > Matt > Am I mistaken in assuming that what's needed is the Windows 98 floppy disk driver, listed only under the L110CT drivers on the Tosh support pages? I don't believe that the W95 FDD driver will give the functionality needed under W98. Lee
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:21:51 +0300 From: John Niemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:53:43 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? > > > IIRC, the Toshiba W98 FDD driver is a zipped file that, when unzipped, > contains a readme file with explicit instructions on driver installation. As > I > recall, it's not completely straightforward. You may need to delete whatever > may > have showed up in Device Manager from your first attempt before proceeding. > > Lee > > Yes, it's a zipped file (fddrv_l110_101.zip) but it hasn't any readme files in it. This is the content of the zip file; FLBFD.INF FLBFD.PDR FLBFDVSD.VXD SETUP.BAT TSBFLBFD.INF And like I said, when I run the .bat file, it copies some files thru dos command prompt and that's where I'm now stuck as the fdd still doesn't work after the files have been copied. Any documentation or help what to do next or what the complete install procedure is would be handy... -John
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 06:15:48 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I put win98se in my L100, and now I have a slight problem; how do I install > the > floppy drivers? I downloaded the toshiba floppy .exe. file and ran it, it did > something but the drive still doesn't work. What should I do next, it seemed > to > install/copy something thru windows command prompt but it seems that the > drivers don't still work. Please tell me very explicitly what to do next, > it's > been a very long time since I've had to install drivers the "win95/98 way" > > -John > IIRC, the Toshiba W98 FDD driver is a zipped file that, when unzipped, contains a readme file with explicit instructions on driver installation. As I recall, it's not completely straightforward. You may need to delete whatever may have showed up in Device Manager from your first attempt before proceeding. * Remove anything in Window's Device Manager that may have a yellow/black error icon. * Unpack the "Toshiba Windows 95 Controls for Libretto 100CT ' driver file l100ctrl.exe for your L100 (found on Toshiba USA support pages) with the file FDCMON.VXD in it to a folder * Shut the system down * Connect the floppy drive * Boot the system. * When the "New Hardware Found" window pops up, select the "Search for drivers" option (I think it is). * On the next window, >make sure the option to search the A: floppy drive is >disabled<< (or you'll be waiting forever). At the bottom of the window you can browse to the folder where you put the Lib controls drivers, and select it. Then just proceed with the process and you should be set. Toshiba support & downloads: http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_home.jsp Yes... Windows 95 seems a bit odd. Matt Libretto list info: Libretto list archive #1: http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi Libretto list archive #2: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/ To unsubscribe: http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2004/msg01419.html
Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install?
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:53:43 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto floppy drive install? In a message dated 4/30/2005 8:06:52 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > I put win98se in my L100, and now I have a slight problem; how do I install > the > floppy drivers? I downloaded the toshiba floppy .exe. file and ran it, it did > something but the drive still doesn't work. What should I do next, it seemed > to > install/copy something thru windows command prompt but it seems that the > drivers don't still work. Please tell me very explicitly what to do next, > it's > been a very long time since I've had to install drivers the "win95/98 way" > > -John > IIRC, the Toshiba W98 FDD driver is a zipped file that, when unzipped, contains a readme file with explicit instructions on driver installation. As I recall, it's not completely straightforward. You may need to delete whatever may have showed up in Device Manager from your first attempt before proceeding. Lee
