Re: Lilypondtool/jEdit problem

2011-12-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Hi,

First of all, currently I'm testing and developing LilyPondTool with jEdit
4.4.2.
I'm using the MyDoggy plugin to have better dockable windows, so that might
affect the behavior, you could try as well.
But anyway, please create a bug report at
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=91119atid=596024
Attach the activity log by opening UtilitiesTroubleshootingActivity log,
press Copy and paste to the issue.

Thank you,

Bertalan

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Patrick Karl pck...@mac.com wrote:

 I submitted the following to the lily4jedit-user list this morning, but it
 doesn't seem that that list gets much traffic.  So I thought I would submit
 it here, too, in the hopes that someone knows how to fix my problem.

  This morning I was running jEdit 4.3.1 with a 2.12.xxx version of
 Lilypondtool.  When I clicked on the Preview Output (PDF) button on the
 Lilpondtool toolbar, new behaviors occurred:
 
*  a blank LilyPond PDF Preview window appeared, disappeared into the
 Dock (I'm running OSX 10.6.8), and then popped back up with my LilyPond
 output.  This was new behavior; previously, what would happen was that the
 LilyPond PDF Preview window would simply appear.
 
*  if I left the LilyPond PDF Preview window up and clicked on the Run
 Lilypond button, the contents of the LilyPond PDF Preview window were not
 updated with my latest changes.  Priviously, the LilyPond PDF Preview
 window would remain up but with blank contents, and the updated output
 would be inserted into it at the end of the Lilypond compilation.  Now in
 order to see the updated output, I have to kill the LilyPond PDF Preview
 window and then click on the Preview Output button.
 
  When I say new behaviors, I mean that they did not occur the last time I
 used jEdit w/Lilypondtool; that was yesterday.
 
  I must have inadvertently clicked on something to cause these new
 behaviors.  Does anyone know how I might revert to the old behaviors?
 
  I have in the meantime upgraded to jEdit 4.4.2 and Lilypondtool
 2.14.2017, but the above described behaviors persist.
 
  Thanks,
  Patrick Karl

 Since then I have found another bad behavior, namely, I can't get the
 LilyPond PDF Preview window to show more than a single page.  I am forced
 to use Preview.app for output greater than a single page, and, of course,
 then I don't get the connection between the pdf output and the lilypond
 input.

 Anyone?

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Lilypondtool/jEdit problem

2011-12-04 Thread Patrick Karl
I submitted the following to the lily4jedit-user list this morning, but it 
doesn't seem that that list gets much traffic.  So I thought I would submit it 
here, too, in the hopes that someone knows how to fix my problem.

 This morning I was running jEdit 4.3.1 with a 2.12.xxx version of 
 Lilypondtool.  When I clicked on the Preview Output (PDF) button on the 
 Lilpondtool toolbar, new behaviors occurred:
 
   *  a blank LilyPond PDF Preview window appeared, disappeared into the Dock 
 (I'm running OSX 10.6.8), and then popped back up with my LilyPond output.  
 This was new behavior; previously, what would happen was that the LilyPond 
 PDF Preview window would simply appear.
 
   *  if I left the LilyPond PDF Preview window up and clicked on the Run 
 Lilypond button, the contents of the LilyPond PDF Preview window were not 
 updated with my latest changes.  Priviously, the LilyPond PDF Preview window 
 would remain up but with blank contents, and the updated output would be 
 inserted into it at the end of the Lilypond compilation.  Now in order to see 
 the updated output, I have to kill the LilyPond PDF Preview window and then 
 click on the Preview Output button.
 
 When I say new behaviors, I mean that they did not occur the last time I used 
 jEdit w/Lilypondtool; that was yesterday.
 
 I must have inadvertently clicked on something to cause these new behaviors.  
 Does anyone know how I might revert to the old behaviors?
 
 I have in the meantime upgraded to jEdit 4.4.2 and Lilypondtool 
 2.14.2017, but the above described behaviors persist.
 
 Thanks,
 Patrick Karl

Since then I have found another bad behavior, namely, I can't get the LilyPond 
PDF Preview window to show more than a single page.  I am forced to use 
Preview.app for output greater than a single page, and, of course, then I don't 
get the connection between the pdf output and the lilypond input.

Anyone?

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Re: lilypond and jedit

2011-10-24 Thread Tim Roberts
MING TSANG wrote:
 Thank you.

 How about lilypond v2.14.2 or v2.15.14?

The architecture has not changed.

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lilypond and jedit

2011-10-22 Thread MING TSANG
Hi, lily users:

A general question.  Can lilypond and jedit be installed in an USB thumb drive? 
What would happen about the PATH?   

 
Blessing,
Ming.
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Re: lilypond and jedit

2011-10-22 Thread Francisco Vila
El 22/10/2011 14:57, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com escribió:

 Hi, lily users:

 A general question.  Can lilypond and jedit be installed in an USB thumb
drive? What would happen about the PATH?


Which operative system are we talking about?
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Re: lilypond and jedit

2011-10-22 Thread MING TSANG
Sorry!  It is window 7.

 




From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org; 
lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:27:56 PM
Subject: Re: lilypond and jedit



El 22/10/2011 14:57, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com escribió:

 Hi, lily users:

 A general question.  Can lilypond and jedit be installed in an USB thumb 
 drive? What would happen about the PATH?  
  
Which operative system are we talking about?


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Re: lilypond and jedit

2011-10-22 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
yes, you can just copy java and jedit to it and change jedit.bat to
use the javaw.exe from the usb drive. Also set jedit to install
plugins to the application directory.

On 10/22/11, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
 Sorry!  It is window 7.






From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org;
 lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:27:56 PM
Subject: Re: lilypond and jedit



El 22/10/2011 14:57, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com escribió:

 Hi, lily users:

 A general question.  Can lilypond and jedit be installed in an USB thumb
 drive? What would happen about the PATH?

Which operative system are we talking about?




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Re: lilypond and jedit

2011-10-22 Thread MING TSANG
Thank you.

How about lilypond v2.14.2 or v2.15.14?

 




From: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) lilypondt...@organum.hu
To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
Cc: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com; lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org 
lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org 
lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:43:32 PM
Subject: Re: lilypond and jedit

yes, you can just copy java and jedit to it and change jedit.bat to
use the javaw.exe from the usb drive. Also set jedit to install
plugins to the application directory.

On 10/22/11, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
 Sorry!  It is window 7.






From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org;
 lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:27:56 PM
Subject: Re: lilypond and jedit



El 22/10/2011 14:57, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com escribió:

 Hi, lily users:

 A general question.  Can lilypond and jedit be installed in an USB thumb
 drive? What would happen about the PATH?

Which operative system are we talking about?





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Re: lilypond and jedit

2011-10-22 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I think it should work just by copying LilyPond to the usb drive as well.
You shouldn't need PATH to set up etc.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:03 PM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:

 Thank you.

 How about lilypond v2.14.2 or v2.15.14?


 --
 *From:* Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) lilypondt...@organum.hu
 *To:* MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
 *Cc:* Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com; 
 lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org; 
 lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:43:32 PM

 *Subject:* Re: lilypond and jedit

 yes, you can just copy java and jedit to it and change jedit.bat to
 use the javaw.exe from the usb drive. Also set jedit to install
 plugins to the application directory.

 On 10/22/11, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
  Sorry!  It is window 7.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
 To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.org;
  lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org
 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:27:56 PM
 Subject: Re: lilypond and jedit
 
 
 
 El 22/10/2011 14:57, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com escribió:
 
  Hi, lily users:
 
  A general question.  Can lilypond and jedit be installed in an USB
 thumb
  drive? What would happen about the PATH?
 
 Which operative system are we talking about?
 
 
 



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LilypondTool and jEdit version

2011-06-26 Thread Helge Kruse

Hello,

some times ago, LilypondTool was sticked to a specific jEdit version 
(4.3pre16). Does the limitation still exists or can I use a newer jEdit 
version?


Regards,
Helge


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Re: LilypondTool and jEdit version

2011-06-26 Thread flup2

Hello,

For what it looks, LilypondTool seems to work well with JEdit 4.4.1 release.
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Re: LilypondTool and jEdit version

2011-06-26 Thread Nick Payne

On 26/06/11 19:03, Helge Kruse wrote:

Hello,

some times ago, LilypondTool was sticked to a specific jEdit version 
(4.3pre16). Does the limitation still exists or can I use a newer 
jEdit version?


It's working fine on my machine with jEdit 4.4.1. The version of 
Lilypondtool I'm using is 2.12.932. OS is Ubuntu 10.04 amd64.


Nick

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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Which OS are you using?
What is the exact message?


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks, Nick. That solved one prob, but brought up another. Not I get the
 errorjava.io IOException:error=20
 when I try to compile. Any thoughts? Thanks again.





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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-18 Thread Michael Dykes
Nick Payne nick.payne at internode.on.net writes:


 In the options for Lilypondtool in jEdit (Plugins / Plugin Options 
 /LilypondTool / Commands), do you have the correct path to the Lilypond 
 binary. You should also have the jEdit SideKick plugin installed and the 
 option Parse on keystroke checked.
 
 Nick
 


Hullo Nick, and thanks. However, I do not know how to find my path to the
Lilypond binary. Could you possibly help me with that? Thanks again.


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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-18 Thread Nick Payne

On 18/04/11 17:47, Michael Dykes wrote:

Nick Paynenick.payneat  internode.on.net  writes:


In the options for Lilypondtool in jEdit (Plugins / Plugin Options
/LilypondTool / Commands), do you have the correct path to the Lilypond
binary. You should also have the jEdit SideKick plugin installed and the
option Parse on keystroke checked.


Hullo Nick, and thanks. However, I do not know how to find my path to the
Lilypond binary. Could you possibly help me with that? Thanks again.


Depends on the operating system. On linux, execute which lilypond at a 
command prompt to find the path. On windows, it should be in your path, 
so enter path at a command prompt. Other OSs, can't help you.


Nick

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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-18 Thread Michael Dykes
Thanks, Nick. That solved one prob, but brought up another. Not I get the
errorjava.io IOException:error=20 
when I try to compile. Any thoughts? Thanks again.





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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-09 Thread bruys .
Hello Michael,
I know next to nothing about JEdit, except that it installed on my
(Windows) system without any difficulty. No-one else has replied, so I
thought I'd mention that a few more details are probably required
before anyone can help. It would appear that JEdit is not finding a
necessary file, which indicates that something might have gone wrong
with installation, prerequisite files are missing or not on the path
searched by JEdit.
I would think that the operating system you are using, what
instructions you followed to install the software, and at what stage
you get the error would all be relevant.
Perhaps it is something as simple as needing to configure JEdit to
find your pdf reader or Lilypond:
http://lilypondtool.blogspot.com/p/install-configure.html
Regards,
bruys

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just started using JEdit and the LilypondTools provided as a plug-in for
 that editor. Everytime I use it though, I keep getting the follwoing error:
 java.io IOException:error=2, No such file or directory   - Any help
 resolving this would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-09 Thread Nick Payne
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Michael Dykes thedoctor81...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I just started using JEdit and the LilypondTools provided as a plug-in for
that editor. Everytime I use it though, I keep getting the follwoing error:
java.io IOException:error=2, No such file or directory   - Any help
resolving this would be appreciated. Thanks.
In the options for Lilypondtool in jEdit (Plugins / Plugin Options 
/LilypondTool / Commands), do you have the correct path to the Lilypond 
binary. You should also have the jEdit SideKick plugin installed and the 
option Parse on keystroke checked.


Nick

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Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Dykes
I just started using JEdit and the LilypondTools provided as a plug-in for
that editor. Everytime I use it though, I keep getting the follwoing error:
java.io IOException:error=2, No such file or directory   - Any help
resolving this would be appreciated. Thanks.

-- 
In Christ,
Michael D
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PDF preview in jEdit

2011-01-17 Thread Arle Lommel
Hi all,

Just started using jEdit and lilypondtool today on Mac OS X because I liked the 
idea of the PDF Preview and the integration between it and the editor. However, 
in trying it out, I find that once I first invoke the preview function it won't 
update for me, so I can't see any changes: it stubbornly displays whatever it 
displayed when first invoked. Even saving the document does nothing.

I've looked in vain for some sort of obvious refresh button or something like 
that and even closing the viewer and reopening it still shows the same PDF. I'm 
probably missing something really obvious, but the lilypondtool documentation 
online doesn't seem to mention how to get the preview to update.

Can anyone help me out?

Best,

Arle
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Re: PDF preview in jEdit

2011-01-17 Thread Patrick Schmidt


Am 17.01.2011 um 20:17 schrieb Arle Lommel:


Hi all,

Just started using jEdit and lilypondtool today on Mac OS X because  
I liked the idea of the PDF Preview and the integration between it  
and the editor. However, in trying it out, I find that once I first  
invoke the preview function it won't update for me, so I can't see  
any changes: it stubbornly displays whatever it displayed when  
first invoked. Even saving the document does nothing.


I've looked in vain for some sort of obvious refresh button or  
something like that and even closing the viewer and reopening it  
still shows the same PDF. I'm probably missing something really  
obvious, but the lilypondtool documentation online doesn't seem to  
mention how to get the preview to update.


Can anyone help me out?
There is a button called Preview Output (PDF) right after the  
Convert to newer version button.


HTH
patrick


Best,

Arle
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Re: PDF preview in jEdit

2011-01-17 Thread Arle Lommel
Thank you Patrick, but I should have made it clear, *that* was the item that 
kept serving me up the old version of the file as a preview, even after saving 
and making changes. Running the “Run Lilypond” botton, per Bert’s suggestion, 
however, seems to take care of the issue.

-Arle


On Jan 17, 2011, at 14:29 , Patrick Schmidt wrote:
 There is a button called Preview Output (PDF) right after the Convert to 
 newer version button.
 
 HTH
 patrick


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Re: PDF preview in jEdit

2011-01-17 Thread Patrick Schmidt


Am 17.01.2011 um 20:40 schrieb Arle Lommel:

Thank you Patrick, but I should have made it clear, *that* was the  
item that kept serving me up the old version of the file as a  
preview, even after saving and making changes. Running the “Run  
Lilypond” botton, per Bert’s suggestion, however, seems to take  
care of the issue.
Ah, ok, sorry for that. When I Run LilyPond on a new file I *have*  
to press the Preview Output (PDF) button to see the file but I  
haven't tested the new version, yet.


-Arle


On Jan 17, 2011, at 14:29 , Patrick Schmidt wrote:
There is a button called Preview Output (PDF) right after the  
Convert to newer version button.


HTH
patrick





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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-23 Thread Adam Good
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Valentin Villenave
valen...@villenave.net wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com wrote:
 Carl, can you elaborate on that? I just installed 2.13.43 and still
 see deutsch.ly , english.ly etc in

 lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly

 If you look inside these files, you'll see that they are now empty.
 The note names are defined in scm/define-note-names.scm.

By golly thanks Valentin for pointing it out, honestly the only file I
opened up was my beloved makam.ly file and it's still full of the
same.

Maybe it's been addressed somewhere but if you don't mind me asking
how will deutsch or nederlands languages be called up in the future?
Will the .ly files fall away?

Adam

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-23 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com wrote:
 Maybe it's been addressed somewhere but if you don't mind me asking
 how will deutsch or nederlands languages be called up in the future?
 Will the .ly files fall away?

.ly files will be kept for quite a while, I think. The reason behind
this change is that it's much, much easier for a new user to type

\language italiano

than

\include italiano.ly

Cheers,
Valentin.

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-22 Thread Adam Good
Carl, can you elaborate on that? I just installed 2.13.43 and still
see deutsch.ly , english.ly etc in

lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly

thanks!

Adam

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:

 P.S. this changes in 2.13.4x; the note names are all in the file
 scm/define-note-names.scm

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-22 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com wrote:
 Carl, can you elaborate on that? I just installed 2.13.43 and still
 see deutsch.ly , english.ly etc in

 lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly

If you look inside these files, you'll see that they are now empty.
The note names are defined in scm/define-note-names.scm.

HTH!

Valentin.

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-21 Thread Adam Good
Bertalan,
Thanks for writing. So there's no way for me to use a midi keyboard
for note entry while using makam.ly to get those pitch names correct?

Best,
Adam

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
 Currently LilyPondTool doesn't support custom note names in the wizard and
 the piano input.

 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I'm just now checking out LilyPondTool and have a couple of newbie
 questions regarding midi input.

 It looks like the Score Setup Wizard is the place to set up which
 language you would like the pitches to be notated as (cis vs. cs,
 etc). Ok fine but I would like to use my own pitch names since I'm
 marking up Turkish notation on a regular basis (as c# would be notated
 as cb).

 So, is there any place handy I can get in to add my own pitch naming
 system? And midi input will use that naming system? I've snooped
 around but can't find any plugin config files. Hmmm.

 Frescobaldi does a great thing with Rumor Settings/Guile scripts to
 load...there I've been able to create my own names.

 As always thanks in advance for any advice.

 Adam

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-21 Thread Music Teacher
Where are the deutsch.ly, italian.ly etc. I would like to have a look there.
Thanks
Francois

2010/12/21, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com:
 Bertalan,
 Thanks for writing. So there's no way for me to use a midi keyboard
 for note entry while using makam.ly to get those pitch names correct?

 Best,
 Adam

 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
 lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
 Currently LilyPondTool doesn't support custom note names in the wizard and
 the piano input.

 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I'm just now checking out LilyPondTool and have a couple of newbie
 questions regarding midi input.

 It looks like the Score Setup Wizard is the place to set up which
 language you would like the pitches to be notated as (cis vs. cs,
 etc). Ok fine but I would like to use my own pitch names since I'm
 marking up Turkish notation on a regular basis (as c# would be notated
 as cb).

 So, is there any place handy I can get in to add my own pitch naming
 system? And midi input will use that naming system? I've snooped
 around but can't find any plugin config files. Hmmm.

 Frescobaldi does a great thing with Rumor Settings/Guile scripts to
 load...there I've been able to create my own names.

 As always thanks in advance for any advice.

 Adam

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-21 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/21/10 8:48 AM, Music Teacher alicuota...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where are the deutsch.ly, italian.ly etc. I would like to have a look there.
 Thanks
 Francois
 

The files are in the ly/ subdirectory of your lilypond installation.  I
can't say where lilypond is installed on your system. But you should be able
to find them by doing whatever kind of file search you have.

Alternatively, you can find them on the web by going to

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=tree;f=ly;

HTH,

Carl

P.S. this changes in 2.13.4x; the note names are all in the file
scm/define-note-names.scm


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Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-20 Thread Adam Good
Hi All,
I'm just now checking out LilyPondTool and have a couple of newbie
questions regarding midi input.

It looks like the Score Setup Wizard is the place to set up which
language you would like the pitches to be notated as (cis vs. cs,
etc). Ok fine but I would like to use my own pitch names since I'm
marking up Turkish notation on a regular basis (as c# would be notated
as cb).

So, is there any place handy I can get in to add my own pitch naming
system? And midi input will use that naming system? I've snooped
around but can't find any plugin config files. Hmmm.

Frescobaldi does a great thing with Rumor Settings/Guile scripts to
load...there I've been able to create my own names.

As always thanks in advance for any advice.

Adam

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-20 Thread Stjepan Horvat
Hi, i was looking in /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/ly/ and saw that there are
diferent standards..maybe you can use one file as a example and create your
own and save it as turkish.ly and then include it in lilypond file with
\include trukish.ly


On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I'm just now checking out LilyPondTool and have a couple of newbie
 questions regarding midi input.

 It looks like the Score Setup Wizard is the place to set up which
 language you would like the pitches to be notated as (cis vs. cs,
 etc). Ok fine but I would like to use my own pitch names since I'm
 marking up Turkish notation on a regular basis (as c# would be notated
 as cb).

 So, is there any place handy I can get in to add my own pitch naming
 system? And midi input will use that naming system? I've snooped
 around but can't find any plugin config files. Hmmm.

 Frescobaldi does a great thing with Rumor Settings/Guile scripts to
 load...there I've been able to create my own names.

 As always thanks in advance for any advice.

 Adam

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-20 Thread Paul Thompson
It would be easy enough to define a variable which would use your preferred 
naming scheme in place of the official one.

So, usually c# is notated as cis.

Define a variable:
cb={cis}

Then you can use cb in place of cis:

a \cb b \cb

You merely need to use the \ to denote a variable.

As someone else suggested, you put this in a file, and then include it at the 
beginning, and that brings your customization to each project.

 Paul Thompson




From: Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 9:32:15 AM
Subject: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

Hi All,
I'm just now checking out LilyPondTool and have a couple of newbie
questions regarding midi input.

It looks like the Score Setup Wizard is the place to set up which
language you would like the pitches to be notated as (cis vs. cs,
etc). Ok fine but I would like to use my own pitch names since I'm
marking up Turkish notation on a regular basis (as c# would be notated
as cb).

So, is there any place handy I can get in to add my own pitch naming
system? And midi input will use that naming system? I've snooped
around but can't find any plugin config files. Hmmm.

Frescobaldi does a great thing with Rumor Settings/Guile scripts to
load...there I've been able to create my own names.

As always thanks in advance for any advice.

Adam

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Re: Tweaking Jedit LilyPondTool?

2010-12-20 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Currently LilyPondTool doesn't support custom note names in the wizard and
the piano input.

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Adam Good adamg...@adamgood.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I'm just now checking out LilyPondTool and have a couple of newbie
 questions regarding midi input.

 It looks like the Score Setup Wizard is the place to set up which
 language you would like the pitches to be notated as (cis vs. cs,
 etc). Ok fine but I would like to use my own pitch names since I'm
 marking up Turkish notation on a regular basis (as c# would be notated
 as cb).

 So, is there any place handy I can get in to add my own pitch naming
 system? And midi input will use that naming system? I've snooped
 around but can't find any plugin config files. Hmmm.

 Frescobaldi does a great thing with Rumor Settings/Guile scripts to
 load...there I've been able to create my own names.

 As always thanks in advance for any advice.

 Adam

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Fwd: a JEdit/LilyPondTool behaviour

2010-10-14 Thread Patrick Schmidt



Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:


Von: Gerard McConnell gerine...@gmail.com
Datum: 14. Oktober 2010 00:17:58 MESZ
An: Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de
Betreff: Re: a JEdit/LilyPondTool behaviour

Excellent, that did the trick. The path had parentheses in it -  
folder(9)

Many thanks Patrick.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Patrick Schmidt  
p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote:

Gerard,

IINM you should avoid certain characters in your path. I'm pretty  
sure you used something like: (,), é, ä, à etc. in your directory/ 
file labels.


HTH
patrick
Am 13.10.2010 um 11:48 schrieb Gerard McConnell:

Hello,
Just wondering about a behaviour when I'm using the PDF viewer in  
the excellent JEdit/LilyPondTool.
With some scores, when I click on a note in the PDF I am returned  
to that note in the
.ly file; with other scores this does not occur.  In both cases I  
have the Follow caret check box
selected.   Why does this happen, and can I ensure that clicking a  
note always returns me to the

appropriate point in the .ly file?
(Thanks again to all involved for providing LilyPond/JEdit/ 
LilyPondTool for free.)

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a JEdit/LilyPondTool behaviour

2010-10-13 Thread Gerard McConnell
Hello,
Just wondering about a behaviour when I'm using the PDF viewer in the
excellent JEdit/LilyPondTool.
With some scores, when I click on a note in the PDF I am returned to that
note in the
.ly file; with other scores this does not occur.  In both cases I have the
Follow caret check box
selected.   Why does this happen, and can I ensure that clicking a note
always returns me to the
appropriate point in the .ly file?
(Thanks again to all involved for providing LilyPond/JEdit/LilyPondTool for
free.)
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Re: a JEdit/LilyPondTool behaviour

2010-10-13 Thread Patrick Schmidt

Gerard,

IINM you should avoid certain characters in your path. I'm pretty  
sure you used something like: (,), é, ä, à etc. in your directory/ 
file labels.


HTH
patrick
Am 13.10.2010 um 11:48 schrieb Gerard McConnell:


Hello,
Just wondering about a behaviour when I'm using the PDF viewer in  
the excellent JEdit/LilyPondTool.
With some scores, when I click on a note in the PDF I am returned  
to that note in the
.ly file; with other scores this does not occur.  In both cases I  
have the Follow caret check box
selected.   Why does this happen, and can I ensure that clicking a  
note always returns me to the

appropriate point in the .ly file?
(Thanks again to all involved for providing LilyPond/JEdit/ 
LilyPondTool for free.)

Gerard
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Re: a JEdit/LilyPondTool behaviour

2010-10-13 Thread Francisco Vila
2010/10/13 Gerard McConnell gerine...@gmail.com:
 Hello,
 Just wondering about a behaviour when I'm using the PDF viewer in the
 excellent JEdit/LilyPondTool.
 With some scores, when I click on a note in the PDF I am returned to that
 note in the
 .ly file; with other scores this does not occur.

You should'n have any problem with PDFs made by you from source files
that are at the same path they were when you processed them to
generate that PDF.  Let's say, the link between the file
path+name/line/column and the small links that the PDF has in every
note, still exists.

However, this link breaks when you move the ly source file or the PDF.
 You can always process the file again and press the PDF preview icon
in lilypondtool.  That should suffice.

There is a very low chance that any PDF not made by you shows a proper
point-and-click behaviour even if you have the source code. Again, a
solution is at my previous paragraph.

Also, some PDFs are processed without those tiny links in it, by means
of the no-point-and-clik option, which you can enable for your own
documents.

-- 
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Re: Jedit with lilypond tools

2010-09-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Perhaps that version of LilyPond puts the PDF in a different directory 
than the .ly file is in


MING TSANG wrote:
I use jedit with lilypond tool. I also use lilypond 2.13.33 The 
console has the following message. However, I cannot locate the .pdf 
file.  I do a search on c:\ drive and cannot find the file.  I see the 
midi file.  One additional question: on v2.12 after running lilypond, 
I can see three files - .mid; .ps and .pdf. V2.13.33 only has two 
files created - .mid and .pdf; why?



 %lilypond %args C:\Documents and 
Settings\Administrator\Desktop\LILY_POND\the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly
正在處理 ‘C:/Documents and 
Settings/Administrator/Desktop/LILY_POND/the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly’

分析中...
Interpreting music... [8][16]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music...
將 MIDI 輸出至 ‘the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.mid’...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ps'...
轉換為 ‘./the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.pdf’...
success: Compilation successfully completed
Processing time: 9 seconds


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Re: Jedit with lilypond tools

2010-09-24 Thread MING TSANG
Thank you Bertalan.  I did a search on c: drive for the .pdf file and cannot 
locate it anywhere.





From: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) lilypondt...@organum.hu
To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 6:35:14 AM
Subject: Re: Jedit with lilypond tools

  Perhaps that version of LilyPond puts the PDF in a different directory than 
the .ly file is in

MING TSANG wrote: 
I use jedit with lilypond tool. I also use lilypond 2.13.33 The console has the 
following message. However, I cannot locate the .pdf file.  I do a search on 
c:\ 
drive and cannot find the file.  I see the midi file.  One additional question: 
on v2.12 after running lilypond, I can see three files - .mid; .ps and .pdf. 
V2.13.33 only has two files created - .mid and .pdf; why?


 %lilypond %args C:\Documents and 
Settings\Administrator\Desktop\LILY_POND\the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly
正在處理 ‘C:/Documents and 
Settings/Administrator/Desktop/LILY_POND/the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly’
分析中...
Interpreting music... [8][16]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music... 
將 MIDI 輸出至 ‘the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.mid’...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ps'...
轉換為 ‘./the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.pdf’...
success: Compilation successfully completed
Processing time: 9 seconds



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Re: Jedit with lilypond tools

2010-09-22 Thread Phil Holmes
In answer to your question about .ps files, the document entitled New features 
in 2.13 since 2.12 says:

Intermediate .ps files which are created by LilyPond during compilation are 
now deleted by default. To keep them, add the following line to your input 
files:
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #f)

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: MING TSANG 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:28 AM
  Subject: Jedit with lilypond tools


  I use jedit with lilypond tool. I also use lilypond 2.13.33 The console has 
the following message. However, I cannot locate the .pdf file.  I do a search 
on c:\ drive and cannot find the file.  I see the midi file.  One additional 
question: on v2.12 after running lilypond, I can see three files - .mid; .ps 
and .pdf. V2.13.33 only has two files created - .mid and .pdf; why?

  
   %lilypond %args C:\Documents and 
Settings\Administrator\Desktop\LILY_POND\the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly
  正在處理 ‘C:/Documents and 
Settings/Administrator/Desktop/LILY_POND/the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly’
  分析中...
  Interpreting music... [8][16]
  Preprocessing graphical objects...
  Interpreting music... 
  將 MIDI 輸出至 ‘the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.mid’...
  Finding the ideal number of pages...
  Fitting music on 1 page...
  Drawing systems...
  Layout output to `the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ps'...
  轉換為 ‘./the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.pdf’...
  success: Compilation successfully completed
  Processing time: 9 seconds



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Re: Jedit with lilypond tools

2010-09-22 Thread MING TSANG
Thank you Phil.  

I put the line in to .ly   Now .PS file is created but there is still no .PDF 
file generated.






From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 12:38:34 PM
Subject: Re: Jedit with lilypond tools

  
In answer to your question about .ps files, the  document entitled New 
features 
in 2.13 since 2.12 says:
 
Intermediate .ps files which are created by  LilyPond during compilation are 
now deleted by default. To keep them, add the  following line to your input 
files:
#(ly:set-option  'delete-intermediate-files #f)

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- Original Message - 
From: MING TSANG 
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:28AM
Subject: Jedit with lilypond tools


I use jedit with lilypond tool. I also use lilypond 2.13.33 The consolehas 
the following message. However, I cannot locate the .pdf file.  I doa 
search 
on c:\ drive and cannot find the file.  I see the midifile.  One 
additional 
question: on v2.12 after running lilypond, I cansee three files - .mid; 
.ps 
and .pdf. V2.13.33 only has two files created -.mid and .pdf;why?


%lilypond %args C:\Documents and
Settings\Administrator\Desktop\LILY_POND\the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly
正在處理‘C:/Documents and
Settings/Administrator/Desktop/LILY_POND/the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly’
分析中...
Interpretingmusic... [8][16]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpretingmusic... 
將 MIDI 輸出至 ‘the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.mid’...
Finding theideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawingsystems...
Layout output to `the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ps'...
轉換為‘./the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.pdf’...
success: Compilation successfullycompleted
Processing time: 9 seconds


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Jedit with lilypond tools

2010-09-21 Thread MING TSANG
I use jedit with lilypond tool. I also use lilypond 2.13.33 The console has the 
following message. However, I cannot locate the .pdf file.  I do a search on 
c:\ 
drive and cannot find the file.  I see the midi file.  One additional question: 
on v2.12 after running lilypond, I can see three files - .mid; .ps and .pdf. 
V2.13.33 only has two files created - .mid and .pdf; why?


 %lilypond %args C:\Documents and 
Settings\Administrator\Desktop\LILY_POND\the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly
正在處理 ‘C:/Documents and 
Settings/Administrator/Desktop/LILY_POND/the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ly’
分析中...
Interpreting music... [8][16]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music... 
將 MIDI 輸出至 ‘the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.mid’...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.ps'...
轉換為 ‘./the-lord-is-in-his-holy-temple.pdf’...
success: Compilation successfully completed
Processing time: 9 seconds
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Re: Help with JEdit/LilyPondTool user problem

2010-09-08 Thread Seth Williamson
I tried that, but the directory is called LilyPond 2.app, not LilyPond.app.

In any case, when I make that small substitution, it still says no such file
or directory.  The MacBook seems to want to force it to look in my user
director, not on the rest of the hard drive.  The full path is this:

I am just about ready to give up.  I think it may be a Mac thing.  But this
is too much effort to waste on something that should be so simple.  Under
JEdit/PlugIns/PlugIn Options, I put the whole specific path:

/Volumes/Macintosh HD/Applications/LilyPond 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

You'd think that would be specific enough.  But JEdit seems to want to make
JEdit look for LilyPond in my user directory, where it's NOT.  When I try to
drill down to where it actually lives by using the ... icon at the end of
the path space, when I get to the LilyPond 2.app directory, it's grayed-out
and I can't choose it.  I have no idea what this means, but I'm just about
ready to give up.

If you have any more ideas, I'd appreciate hearing them.  It really seems
dumb that I can't even get the program to start from within LilyPondTool.

Seth Williamson



On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi Seth,

 just cut an paste the following line into Path to LilyPond binary:

 /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

 This should solve your problem.

 HTH,
 patrick
 Am 07.09.2010 um 15:56 schrieb Seth Williamson:

 I got the following reply from the other list.  But I'm still getting
 errors.  Can anybody on this list tell me what the problem is?

 Seth Williamson


 I am still getting errors.  I cut and pasted your line into Path to
 LilyPond binary:

 Error running external command
 See the activity log about the problem
 Cannot run program /Applications/LilyPond\
 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond (in directory /Applications):
 error=2, No such file or directory

 Under Plugin Options, I have this as the Path to LilyPond binary:

 /Applications/LilyPond\ 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin

 Under LilyPond command I have:

 lilypond

 Can you explain to me what's wrong about this and why I can't get the
 program started?

 Seth Williamson
 - Hide quoted text -



 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Seth Williamson hazelmo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So far as I can tell, I've got LilyPond 2.app installed under
 Applications.
   I can see it there with Finder.

 Greetings,

 it should look like

 /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

 Or, if your app's name contains spaces, you have to escape them:

 /Applications/LilyPond\ 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

 Good luck!

 Valentin


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Help with JEdit/LilyPondTool user problem

2010-09-07 Thread Seth Williamson
I got the following reply from the other list.  But I'm still getting
errors.  Can anybody on this list tell me what the problem is?

Seth Williamson


I am still getting errors.  I cut and pasted your line into Path to
LilyPond binary:

Error running external command
See the activity log about the problem
Cannot run program /Applications/LilyPond\
2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond (in directory /Applications):
error=2, No such file or directory

Under Plugin Options, I have this as the Path to LilyPond binary:

/Applications/LilyPond\ 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin

Under LilyPond command I have:

lilypond

Can you explain to me what's wrong about this and why I can't get the
program started?

Seth Williamson
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Seth Williamson hazelmo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So far as I can tell, I've got LilyPond 2.app installed under
 Applications.
   I can see it there with Finder.

 Greetings,

 it should look like

 /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

 Or, if your app's name contains spaces, you have to escape them:

 /Applications/LilyPond\ 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

 Good luck!

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Re: Help with JEdit/LilyPondTool user problem

2010-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt

Hi Seth,

just cut an paste the following line into Path to LilyPond binary:

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

This should solve your problem.

HTH,
patrick
Am 07.09.2010 um 15:56 schrieb Seth Williamson:

I got the following reply from the other list.  But I'm still  
getting errors.  Can anybody on this list tell me what the problem is?


Seth Williamson


I am still getting errors.  I cut and pasted your line into Path  
to LilyPond binary:


Error running external command
See the activity log about the problem
Cannot run program /Applications/LilyPond\ 2.app/Contents/ 
Resources/bin/lilypond (in directory /Applications): error=2, No  
such file or directory


Under Plugin Options, I have this as the Path to LilyPond binary:

/Applications/LilyPond\ 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin

Under LilyPond command I have:

lilypond

Can you explain to me what's wrong about this and why I can't get  
the program started?


Seth Williamson
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Valentin Villenave  
v.villen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Seth Williamson  
hazelmo...@gmail.com wrote:
 So far as I can tell, I've got LilyPond 2.app installed under  
Applications.

  I can see it there with Finder.

Greetings,

it should look like

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

Or, if your app's name contains spaces, you have to escape them:

/Applications/LilyPond\ 2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/

Good luck!

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Question about JEdit/LilyPondTool on Mac

2010-09-06 Thread Seth Williamson
I have been struggling with what looks like a real simple problem.  That I
can't find the answer is possibly due to my being relatively new with Macs.

At any rate, below I copy a note I sent to the LilyPondTool list.  If
anybody on this list has the answer, I'd love to hear it.

Seth Williamson


OK, I am having the most basic problem imaginable with getting LilyPond and
LilyPond Tool to work together with JEdit on my MacBook Pro.

When I go to Process/View and choose Run LilyPond, I get a variety of
errors.  I think they come down to not getting the path and/or start command
correct.

So far as I can tell, I've got LilyPond 2.app installed under Applications.
 I can see it there with Finder.

Under PlugIn Options, I have tried about every combination of path and
LilyPond command to get the program started, and I get an error message
every time.

Can somebody tell me what the path is supposed to look like?  Please spell
it out precisely if you don't mind, because obviously I'm not smart enough
to figure this out myself.

Also, should there be something under LilyPond command to start the program,
and if so, what is it exactly?

I would really like to get past this initial problem so I can start using
the LilyPond/JEdit/LilyPondTool combination, but I am hosed up at this one
spot and really frustrated.

Seth Williamson
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Re: Question about JEdit/LilyPondTool on Mac

2010-09-06 Thread Philippe Massart
Hello,

I think it's because when you install JEdit for the first time on a Mac, the 
path for Lilypond is set to C:/Program Files/ etc.

I think you just have to remove any path (first field). 

If it doesn't work, you can put this one, as your Lilypond app is located in 
the Applications folder :

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin

Second field (the one to invoke Lilpond) is simply : lilypond

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Re: lilypondtool and timidity won't play from the jedit internal midi player.

2010-06-29 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)



The internal MIDI player uses a cross-platform MIDI engine, built in Java.
External MIDI players are not yet supported.





aaah, right. So if the internal midi doesn't play (or more accurately
the transport runs, but no sound) then i'm missing a module or plugin
to get sound, or see a port to plug into something?

  

Maybe. I don't have the resources to test on Linux.
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Re: lilypondtool and timidity won't play from the jedit internal midi player.

2010-06-29 Thread alex stone
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:

 The internal MIDI player uses a cross-platform MIDI engine, built in Java.
 External MIDI players are not yet supported.




 aaah, right. So if the internal midi doesn't play (or more accurately
 the transport runs, but no sound) then i'm missing a module or plugin
 to get sound, or see a port to plug into something?



 Maybe. I don't have the resources to test on Linux.


ok, thanks for replying.

Alex.

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Re: lilypondtool and timidity won't play from the jedit internal midi player.

2010-06-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)

alex stone wrote:

lilypond version 2.13.25
lilypondtool version (D/L direct from jedit plugin repo) 2.12.894

I've been working all day on trying to get the internal midi player in
jedit/lilypondtool to work with timidity. (as lilypondtool has no
jackmidi as yet)
No luck so far. I have timidity running as an alsa server, which shows
up in jack. (I'm using a all alsa to jack .asoundrc file)

Before i report anything further, is this a previously recognised
challenge, or something no other human being has a problem with?
Timidity works fine, and has a nice soundfont as a default. (just for
interest's sake.)

If i'm missing a lilypondtool midi player config setting somewhere,
please clue me in.

Alex.



  

The internal MIDI player uses a cross-platform MIDI engine, built in Java.
External MIDI players are not yet supported.


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Re: lilypondtool and timidity won't play from the jedit internal midi player.

2010-06-28 Thread alex stone
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
 alex stone wrote:

 lilypond version 2.13.25
 lilypondtool version (D/L direct from jedit plugin repo) 2.12.894

 I've been working all day on trying to get the internal midi player in
 jedit/lilypondtool to work with timidity. (as lilypondtool has no
 jackmidi as yet)
 No luck so far. I have timidity running as an alsa server, which shows
 up in jack. (I'm using a all alsa to jack .asoundrc file)

 Before i report anything further, is this a previously recognised
 challenge, or something no other human being has a problem with?
 Timidity works fine, and has a nice soundfont as a default. (just for
 interest's sake.)

 If i'm missing a lilypondtool midi player config setting somewhere,
 please clue me in.

 Alex.





 The internal MIDI player uses a cross-platform MIDI engine, built in Java.
 External MIDI players are not yet supported.



aaah, right. So if the internal midi doesn't play (or more accurately
the transport runs, but no sound) then i'm missing a module or plugin
to get sound, or see a port to plug into something?

Alex.

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lilypondtool and timidity won't play from the jedit internal midi player.

2010-06-22 Thread alex stone
lilypond version 2.13.25
lilypondtool version (D/L direct from jedit plugin repo) 2.12.894

I've been working all day on trying to get the internal midi player in
jedit/lilypondtool to work with timidity. (as lilypondtool has no
jackmidi as yet)
No luck so far. I have timidity running as an alsa server, which shows
up in jack. (I'm using a all alsa to jack .asoundrc file)

Before i report anything further, is this a previously recognised
challenge, or something no other human being has a problem with?
Timidity works fine, and has a nice soundfont as a default. (just for
interest's sake.)

If i'm missing a lilypondtool midi player config setting somewhere,
please clue me in.

Alex.



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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-21 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Yes, by default the jEdit settings folder is c:\documents and 
settings\username\.jedit
Under that there is a file called properties - this contains all your 
individual settings.

The jars folder contains all the plugins.
So generally you need only two of these to replicate the same 
installation elsewhere.


Francisco Vila wrote:

2009/12/19 chip c...@wiegand.org:
  

Excellent, that's what I hoping for.
Thanks,
chip



  

I don't see a settings folder, did find a settings-backup folder buried
under Documents and Settings etc etc etc.
Can I just copy the entire .jedit folder from that directory and paste
into a new install of jedit on the other computer? That would be the
easiest thing to do, if it'll actually work afterwards.



Yes, I think the settings folder is your .jedit folder in this case.

  

You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable,
uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline.



  

Can't install it offline, the computer I need it installed on is in a
location with no internet access.



Here I'm saying offline meaning With no internet access in the
same computer just to make the test.

  

Yes, I have to redo my encoding and
other global settings, but I'm quite used to it now.



Possibly all these settings are also into the .jedit folder, outside
of the jars folder.  Try copying everything in .jedit, not only that
in jars.

  


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jEdit Lilypond Tool keeps inserting command I don't want

2009-12-21 Thread Todd O'Bryan
I'm using the Lilypond Tool with jEdit and every time I hit the
backslash keep it auto-completes it with \refrainMelody.

While that is a variable in my file, I really don't want it every time
I hit backslash.

How do I turn this off?

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Re: jEdit Lilypond Tool keeps inserting command I don't want

2009-12-21 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)




In the next version this will work better, though it seems that you
have something wrong with your LilyPondTool installation. Do you have
the latest jEdit (4.3pre18 I think) and latest LilyPondTool?

Pressing the backslash should open the autocompletion:



It only autocompletes, if it can only find 1 possible completion.

Nevertheless, you can turn it off by unchecking Plugins  Plugin
Options  SideKick  Immediately complete if possible.

Bert

Todd O'Bryan wrote:

  I'm using the Lilypond Tool with jEdit and every time I hit the
backslash keep it auto-completes it with \refrainMelody.

While that is a variable in my file, I really don't want it every time
I hit backslash.

How do I turn this off?

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Re: jEdit Lilypond Tool keeps inserting command I don't want

2009-12-21 Thread Todd O'Bryan
The latest from the Ubuntu repository is 4.3pre16, which probably explains
the problem.

Thanks for the correct button to uncheck, though!

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) 
lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:

  In the next version this will work better, though it seems that you have
 something wrong with your LilyPondTool installation. Do you have the latest
 jEdit (4.3pre18 I think) and latest LilyPondTool?

 Pressing the backslash should open the autocompletion:



 It only autocompletes, if it can only find 1 possible completion.

 Nevertheless, you can turn it off by unchecking Plugins  Plugin Options 
 SideKick  Immediately complete if possible.

 Bert

 Todd O'Bryan wrote:

 I'm using the Lilypond Tool with jEdit and every time I hit the
 backslash keep it auto-completes it with \refrainMelody.

 While that is a variable in my file, I really don't want it every time
 I hit backslash.

 How do I turn this off?

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off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-18 Thread chip
Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install 
disk that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins 
installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set 
up for working on music and lily.

Thanks,
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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-18 Thread James Lowe
It is possible, it just depends on how adept you are and what you want 
really want out of your OS.


For example I have used Damn Small Linux, booting from a USB stick then 
download the applications from with then RAM disk image this loads 
(including Lilypond and a PDf viewer etc) and then make the settings 
persistent so the next time you boot it keeps all the files.


see:

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Persistence

and this worked well. It's just that DSL has minimal GUI and pretty much 
everything is CLI - at least when I used it.


I haven't tried this for the 2.12 version but 2.10 worked like a charm.

But you don't need an internet connection anyway to run lilypond, so why 
not just copy files FROM a computer that does using (oh I don't know, 
CD/DVD?) and then you're all set.


All you need are the exe files surely and install them? Unless I am 
really missing something here.




chip wrote:
 Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install
 disk that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins
 installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set
 up for working on music and lily.
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chip wrote:
Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install 
disk that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins 
installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set 
up for working on music and lily.

Thanks,
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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-18 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/12/18 chip c...@wiegand.org:
 Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install disk
 that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins
 installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set up
 for working on music and lily.

Windows or Linux?

Java can be installed from a file. Jedit can be installed from a file
upon Java.  On a computer with internet connection, install the jedit
plugins and copy the settings folder where they live, I think this
could trick to an existing jedit install making it to behave just as
if the plugins were installed from the online plugin repo.

You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable,
uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline.
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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-18 Thread chip

Francisco Vila wrote:

2009/12/18 chip c...@wiegand.org:
  

Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install disk
that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins
installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set up
for working on music and lily.



Windows or Linux?
  

WinXP

Java can be installed from a file. Jedit can be installed from a file
upon Java.  On a computer with internet connection, install the jedit
plugins and copy the settings folder where they live, I think this
could trick to an existing jedit install making it to behave just as
if the plugins were installed from the online plugin repo.
  
I don't see a settings folder, did find a settings-backup folder buried 
under Documents and Settings etc etc etc.
Can I just copy the entire .jedit folder from that directory and paste 
into a new install of jedit on the other computer? That would be the 
easiest thing to do, if it'll actually work afterwards.

You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable,
uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline.
  


Can't install it offline, the computer I need it installed on is in a 
location with no internet access.


Regards,
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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-18 Thread Aaron Dalton
On 18/12/2009 5:31 PM, chip wrote:
 Francisco Vila wrote:
 2009/12/18 chip c...@wiegand.org:
  
 Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install
 disk
 that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins
 installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection
 set up
 for working on music and lily.
 

 Windows or Linux?
   
 WinXP
 Java can be installed from a file. Jedit can be installed from a file
 upon Java.  On a computer with internet connection, install the jedit
 plugins and copy the settings folder where they live, I think this
 could trick to an existing jedit install making it to behave just as
 if the plugins were installed from the online plugin repo.
   
 I don't see a settings folder, did find a settings-backup folder buried
 under Documents and Settings etc etc etc.
 Can I just copy the entire .jedit folder from that directory and paste
 into a new install of jedit on the other computer? That would be the
 easiest thing to do, if it'll actually work afterwards.
 You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable,
 uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline.
   
 
 Can't install it offline, the computer I need it installed on is in a
 location with no internet access.
 

The settings folder is in your home folder
(c:\windows\DaS\Username\.jedit) if I'm not mistaken.  You can copy the
main jedit folder (c:\program files\jedit) to a usb stick or something,
and then manually copy the files in your home folder's jars directory
to the jars directory in the main jars folder.  I'm not sure about all
the other folders in the .jedit folder or how they work.  I carry on my
usb drive a copy of the jedit installer and the few indispensable
plugins I use.  I just quickly install jedit, copy over the jars into
the main jars folder, and I'm off.  Yes, I have to redo my encoding and
other global settings, but I'm quite used to it now.

Hope that helps.
Aaron


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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-18 Thread chip

Excellent, that's what I hoping for.
Thanks,
chip

Aaron Dalton wrote:

On 18/12/2009 5:31 PM, chip wrote:
  

Francisco Vila wrote:


2009/12/18 chip c...@wiegand.org:
 
  

Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install
disk
that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins
installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection
set up
for working on music and lily.



Windows or Linux?
  
  

WinXP


Java can be installed from a file. Jedit can be installed from a file
upon Java.  On a computer with internet connection, install the jedit
plugins and copy the settings folder where they live, I think this
could trick to an existing jedit install making it to behave just as
if the plugins were installed from the online plugin repo.
  
  

I don't see a settings folder, did find a settings-backup folder buried
under Documents and Settings etc etc etc.
Can I just copy the entire .jedit folder from that directory and paste
into a new install of jedit on the other computer? That would be the
easiest thing to do, if it'll actually work afterwards.


You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable,
uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline.
  
  

Can't install it offline, the computer I need it installed on is in a
location with no internet access.




The settings folder is in your home folder
(c:\windows\DaS\Username\.jedit) if I'm not mistaken.  You can copy the
main jedit folder (c:\program files\jedit) to a usb stick or something,
and then manually copy the files in your home folder's jars directory
to the jars directory in the main jars folder.  I'm not sure about all
the other folders in the .jedit folder or how they work.  I carry on my
usb drive a copy of the jedit installer and the few indispensable
plugins I use.  I just quickly install jedit, copy over the jars into
the main jars folder, and I'm off.  Yes, I have to redo my encoding and
other global settings, but I'm quite used to it now.

Hope that helps.
Aaron


  


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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?

2009-12-18 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/12/19 chip c...@wiegand.org:
 Excellent, that's what I hoping for.
 Thanks,
 chip

 I don't see a settings folder, did find a settings-backup folder buried
 under Documents and Settings etc etc etc.
 Can I just copy the entire .jedit folder from that directory and paste
 into a new install of jedit on the other computer? That would be the
 easiest thing to do, if it'll actually work afterwards.

Yes, I think the settings folder is your .jedit folder in this case.

 You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable,
 uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline.

 Can't install it offline, the computer I need it installed on is in a
 location with no internet access.

Here I'm saying offline meaning With no internet access in the
same computer just to make the test.

Yes, I have to redo my encoding and
 other global settings, but I'm quite used to it now.

Possibly all these settings are also into the .jedit folder, outside
of the jars folder.  Try copying everything in .jedit, not only that
in jars.

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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-06 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/11/6 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, joe ferguson jfergu...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 The console says:

  jedit -Xms2m -Xma8M
 Invalid initial heap size: -XmsM

This means that  JAVA_HEAP_INIT_SIZE is empty. I had this problem and
solved it by writing

JAVA_HEAP_INIT_SIZE=64

at the top of /usr/local/bin/jedit

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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-06 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)

Yes, I found now: that's a bug in the installer. I'm going to report it.

Bert


Francisco Vila wrote:

2009/11/6 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
  

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, joe ferguson jfergu...@nc.rr.com wrote:


The console says:

 jedit -Xms2m -Xma8M
Invalid initial heap size: -XmsM
  


This means that  JAVA_HEAP_INIT_SIZE is empty. I had this problem and
solved it by writing

JAVA_HEAP_INIT_SIZE=64

at the top of /usr/local/bin/jedit

  


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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-06 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)

Well, it's already been fixed in jEdit SVN.



Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:

Yes, I found now: that's a bug in the installer. I'm going to report it.

Bert


Francisco Vila wrote:

2009/11/6 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
  

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, joe ferguson jfergu...@nc.rr.com wrote:


The console says:

 jedit -Xms2m -Xma8M
Invalid initial heap size: -XmsM
  


This means that  JAVA_HEAP_INIT_SIZE is empty. I had this problem and
solved it by writing

JAVA_HEAP_INIT_SIZE=64

at the top of /usr/local/bin/jedit

  




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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-05 Thread joe ferguson
I am also trying to run jedit since readinf the recent post.  But I get
stuck right off the bat when java startup doesn't like the Xms command
line parameter -- no value seems to do it.

opensuse linux 11.1(64 bit), jrt 1.6. KDE4

Stephen Corey wrote:
 J. wrote:


 B.H.
 I iherited a linux computer full of lilypond files and I was told
 that I have to set up3 editors here [jedit emacs vim].
 I heard that the lilypond tool for jed. is fantastible every one on
 the site says so. But no place on the plugin manager has it.
 Maybe I got senile and I don't see it or some thing?I'm atotal newbi
 and need hand holding, :(
 Also can't set up emacs or vim either.
 First jedit.
 Help.
  
 Jonnie


 

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 In order for people to be able to help you more, please provide the
 flavor or distro of Linux you are using.  It would also help to know
 the version of Lilypond installed on the computer.  You can find this
 out by opening a terminal and typing lilypond --version without the
 quotes.

 The lilypondtool for jEdit does work nicely but needs to be configured
 properly in order to run.  How it is configured will depend partly on
 how Lilypond was installed on your system.



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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)

jEdit 4.3pre17 is needed with the Sun JDK.
What do you mean by doesn't like? It displays a oh, I don't like that 
parameter, that's so smelly message?


Bert

joe ferguson wrote:

I am also trying to run jedit since readinf the recent post.  But I get
stuck right off the bat when java startup doesn't like the Xms command
line parameter -- no value seems to do it.

opensuse linux 11.1(64 bit), jrt 1.6. KDE4

Stephen Corey wrote:
  

J. wrote:

   
   
B.H.

I iherited a linux computer full of lilypond files and I was told
that I have to set up3 editors here [jedit emacs vim].
I heard that the lilypond tool for jed. is fantastible every one on
the site says so. But no place on the plugin manager has it.
Maybe I got senile and I don't see it or some thing?I'm atotal newbi
and need hand holding, :(
Also can't set up emacs or vim either.
First jedit.
Help.
 
Jonnie





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Hi Jonnie,

In order for people to be able to help you more, please provide the
flavor or distro of Linux you are using.  It would also help to know
the version of Lilypond installed on the computer.  You can find this
out by opening a terminal and typing lilypond --version without the
quotes.

The lilypondtool for jEdit does work nicely but needs to be configured
properly in order to run.  How it is configured will depend partly on
how Lilypond was installed on your system.



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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-05 Thread joe ferguson
The console says:

 jedit -Xms2m -Xma8M
Invalid initial heap size: -XmsM

for many values of Xms, Xmx

joe

Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
 jEdit 4.3pre17 is needed with the Sun JDK.
 What do you mean by doesn't like? It displays a oh, I don't like
 that parameter, that's so smelly message?

 Bert

 joe ferguson wrote:
 I am also trying to run jedit since readinf the recent post.  But I get
 stuck right off the bat when java startup doesn't like the Xms command
 line parameter -- no value seems to do it.

 opensuse linux 11.1(64 bit), jrt 1.6. KDE4

 Stephen Corey wrote:
   
 J. wrote:
 


 B.H.
 I iherited a linux computer full of lilypond files and I was told
 that I have to set up3 editors here [jedit emacs vim].
 I heard that the lilypond tool for jed. is fantastible every one on
 the site says so. But no place on the plugin manager has it.
 Maybe I got senile and I don't see it or some thing?I'm atotal newbi
 and need hand holding, :(
 Also can't set up emacs or vim either.
 First jedit.
 Help.
  
 Jonnie


 

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 In order for people to be able to help you more, please provide the
 flavor or distro of Linux you are using.  It would also help to know
 the version of Lilypond installed on the computer.  You can find this
 out by opening a terminal and typing lilypond --version without the
 quotes.

 The lilypondtool for jEdit does work nicely but needs to be configured
 properly in order to run.  How it is configured will depend partly on
 how Lilypond was installed on your system.



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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, joe ferguson jfergu...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 The console says:

  jedit -Xms2m -Xma8M
 Invalid initial heap size: -XmsM

I notice you have a case difference there. What happens if you use
either both lowercase or both uppercase trailing M's? Or, what if you
leave them off completely:

jedit -Xms2 -Xma8

What's that do?

ChrisA


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Re: jedit jaundice

2009-11-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor
What does the jedit script contain?


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jedit jaundice

2009-11-04 Thread J.


B.H.
I iherited a linux computer full of lilypond files and I was told that I have 
to set up3 editors here [jedit emacs vim].
I heard that the lilypond tool for jed. is fantastible every one on the site 
says so. But no place on the plugin manager has it.
Maybe I got senile and I don't see it or some thing?I'm atotal newbi and need 
hand holding, :(
Also can't set up emacs or vim either.
First jedit.
Help.

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
 If everything is based on the existence of a given directory, then all
 is clear.  I believed that the registry had something to do.

No, it only checks for the dir:
http://github.com/janneke/gub/blob/master/nsis/lilypond.nsi#L79

 Actually I don't think uninstall
 removes anything from the registry anyway (but I
 haven't tested this and I may be wrong).

Yes it does:
http://github.com/janneke/gub/blob/master/nsis/lilypond.nsi#L224

:-)

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-12 Thread Tim Reeves
 Mark Austin wrote:
  2009/10/10 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:
  
  Mark Austin wrote:
  
  Having downloaded 2.13.4 for Windows, and not having used Lilypond 
for
  a few weks, I tried to complie a new tune. In attempting to convert 
to
  the new version, I got this error from Lilypond Tool:
 
  convert-ly.py --edit C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
  Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
  c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python: can't open file 
'c:\Program
  Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py': [Errno 2] No such file or
  directory
 
  Similarly, when trying gto compile a tune, I get:
 
  LilyPond ready.
  %lilypond %args C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
  Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
  ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
  ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
  Processing time:  3  seconds
 
  All the files convert and compile OK under the command line, and 
files
  that used to compile return the same errors.
 
  Have these files moved or something?
 
  
  The 2.13.4 default install dir is now C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond 
and not
  C:\Program Files\LilyPond...
  
 
  That explains it. Is there a patch available?
 
  
 Yes. Go to plugin options in jedit for lilypondtool and change the 
 lilypond path to the new location...
 
 Nick
 
 



Or, easier still, though some purist might object, rename the folder back 
to C:\Program Files\LilyPond. That's what I did ;-)



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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-12 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)


It clearly shows I think, that there is nothing wrong with the pretty 
name GNU LilyPond (yes, without the ugly underscore), but the nsis 
script should be written to use LilyPond and not the ugly GNU_LilyPond 
as installation folder.
Though I very strongly object to having the meaningless, confusing and 
ugly GNU in an application name. (At least I won't rename LilyPondTool 
to GnuLilyPondTool, or GNULilyPondTool or GNU_LilyPond_Tool).


Bert

Valentin Villenave wrote:

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
  

If everything is based on the existence of a given directory, then all
is clear.  I believed that the registry had something to do.
  


No, it only checks for the dir:
http://github.com/janneke/gub/blob/master/nsis/lilypond.nsi#L79

  

Actually I don't think uninstall
removes anything from the registry anyway (but I
haven't tested this and I may be wrong).



Yes it does:
http://github.com/janneke/gub/blob/master/nsis/lilypond.nsi#L224

:-)

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Trevor Daniels


Valentin Villenave wrote Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:59 PM


On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Trevor Daniels 
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
I installed both Neil's and Graham's 2.13.4 releases under 
Windows Vista and
AFAICR the default directory was LilyPond as usual. I certainly 
didn't
change anything and they went into a directory named Program 
Files/LilyPond.

Have I missed something here?


Well, it's easy to miss when you don't use LilyTool (actually 
that's

what made me realize that the name had changed) :-)

I haven't tested it under Vista, but I did install each one of the
2.13.4-* releases quite a number of times in a XP virtual machine
(since I've been doing quite a few how-to video tutorials). Maybe 
you

should double-check, for instance by launching the installer even
whitout uninstalling LilyPond, you'll notice that the program is 
named

GNU_LilyPond instead of just LilyPond.


Ahh - I see what you mean.  The name of the -installer- changed.
This doesn't affect anything when doing a straight install under
Windows.  The default install directory is unaffected.  That's what
I misunderstood.  Thanks Valentin.


Valentin

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Nick Payne

Trevor Daniels wrote:

Ahh - I see what you mean.  The name of the -installer- changed.
This doesn't affect anything when doing a straight install under
Windows.  The default install directory is unaffected.  That's what
I misunderstood.  Thanks Valentin.
No, I installed 2.13.4 on both XP and Windows 7, and on both systems it 
installed into C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond.


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Trevor Daniels


Nick Payne wrote Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:59 AM



Trevor Daniels wrote:

Ahh - I see what you mean.  The name of the -installer- changed.
This doesn't affect anything when doing a straight install under
Windows.  The default install directory is unaffected.  That's 
what

I misunderstood.  Thanks Valentin.
No, I installed 2.13.4 on both XP and Windows 7, and on both 
systems it installed into C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond.


I don't use LilyPondTool, and the installation definitely went
into Program Files/LilyPond.  That's why I was puzzled by
the report.  I've attached a screenshot of the install window,
which shows clearly the name of the install program and the
default directory name in my case.

However, it seems the default directory name is actually picked
up from the name set in the previous install if one is set there.
Maybe this explains the difference.

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello,

I had the same problem and changed the directory in JEdit. If it is
reversed to only Liliypond, I hope someone will write it in this list.
Has the installation descripition in the documentation been changed?

 However, it seems the default directory name is actually picked
 up from the name set in the previous install if one is set there.
 Maybe this explains the difference.

Could be, but as far as I remember it is recommended, that you
uninstall the old version before you install the knew one.


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/10/11 Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com:
 Could be, but as far as I remember it is recommended, that you
 uninstall the old version before you install the knew one.

It is not only recommended, you can not install the new version
without previously uninstalling the old one, because the installer
refuses to continue.

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Trevor Daniels


Francisco Vila wrote Sunday, October 11, 2009 3:54 PM



2009/10/11 Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com:

Could be, but as far as I remember it is recommended, that you
uninstall the old version before you install the knew one.


It is not only recommended, you can not install the new version
without previously uninstalling the old one, because the installer
refuses to continue.


You don't need to uninstall; rename works
fine if you want to keep the previous around.

It's actually quite easy in Windows to keep
several versions of LilyPond to hand.  Simply
rename all the directories in Program Files
except the one you're currently using.

The only slight problem I've seen is that the
path accumulates refs to LP /bin which need to
be removed occasionally for efficiency.

Why do I do this?  Well, it makes it much
easier to track down any bugs to the first
release in which they appeared.  I've done
this several times.

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/10/11 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:
 You don't need to uninstall; rename works
 fine if you want to keep the previous around.

I didn't know that the installer could be fooled that easy. I rather
remember the opposite: the installer refusing to cooperate even after
having uninstalled a previous version.

If everything is based on the existence of a given directory, then all
is clear.  I believed that the registry had something to do.
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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Nick Payne

Trevor Daniels wrote:


Nick Payne wrote Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:59 AM



Trevor Daniels wrote:

Ahh - I see what you mean.  The name of the -installer- changed.
This doesn't affect anything when doing a straight install under
Windows.  The default install directory is unaffected.  That's what
I misunderstood.  Thanks Valentin.
No, I installed 2.13.4 on both XP and Windows 7, and on both systems 
it installed into C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond.


I don't use LilyPondTool, and the installation definitely went
into Program Files/LilyPond.  That's why I was puzzled by
the report.  I've attached a screenshot of the install window,
which shows clearly the name of the install program and the
default directory name in my case.

However, it seems the default directory name is actually picked
up from the name set in the previous install if one is set there.
Maybe this explains the difference.
No, the previous installation was into C:\Program Files\LilyPond, and I 
followed the same procedure as previously of uninstalling previous 
version and then installing the new. I used the installer downloaded 
from 
http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.13.4-1.mingw.exe. 
Did you use that or perform your own build?


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Trevor Daniels


Nick Payne wrote Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:42 PM



Trevor Daniels wrote:


Nick Payne wrote Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:59 AM



Trevor Daniels wrote:
Ahh - I see what you mean.  The name of the -installer- 
changed.
This doesn't affect anything when doing a straight install 
under
Windows.  The default install directory is unaffected.  That's 
what

I misunderstood.  Thanks Valentin.
No, I installed 2.13.4 on both XP and Windows 7, and on both 
systems it installed into C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond.


I don't use LilyPondTool, and the installation definitely went
into Program Files/LilyPond.  That's why I was puzzled by
the report.  I've attached a screenshot of the install window,
which shows clearly the name of the install program and the
default directory name in my case.

However, it seems the default directory name is actually picked
up from the name set in the previous install if one is set there.
Maybe this explains the difference.
No, the previous installation was into C:\Program Files\LilyPond, 
and I followed the same procedure as previously of uninstalling 
previous version and then installing the new. I used the installer 
downloaded from 
http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.13.4-1.mingw.exe. 
Did you use that or perform your own build?


I used that download but I didn't uninstall; I usually just remain
the directory in Program Files before an install as I like to keep
old versions readily to hand.  This seems to be the difference
between our experiences.

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
 I used that download but I didn't uninstall; I usually just remain
 the directory in Program Files before an install as I like to keep
 old versions readily to hand.  This seems to be the difference
 between our experiences.

That must be the reason: here's my own screenshot of the 2.13.4-1
installer on a virgin Vista64 box (that never had LilyPond
installed).

Cheers,
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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-10-11, Valentin Villenave wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
  I used that download but I didn't uninstall; I usually just remain
  the directory in Program Files before an install as I like to keep
  old versions readily to hand.  This seems to be the difference
  between our experiences.
 
 That must be the reason: here's my own screenshot of the 2.13.4-1
 installer on a virgin Vista64 box (that never had LilyPond
 installed).

BTW, this looks like the commit that changed the behavior:


  commit d3db053f7e4b65e3f288c5076f3a1cc839a2
  Author: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org
  Date:   Fri Jul 3 15:21:27 2009 +0200

  Prettier names for installers -- but still without spaces :-)

  diff --git a/gub/installer.py b/gub/installer.py
  index cbff88c..bb63988 100644
  --- a/gub/installer.py
  +++ b/gub/installer.py
  @@ -16,8 +16,11 @@ from gub import commands
   # UGH -  we don't have the package dicts yet.
   # barf, this should be in config file, not in code
   pretty_names = {
  -'lilypond': 'LilyPond',
  +'denemo': 'GNU_Denemo',
   'git': 'Git',
  +'lilypond': 'GNU_LilyPond',
  +'openoffice': 'Go-Oo_OpenOffice.org',
  +'ooo-build': 'Go-Oo_OpenOffice.org',
   }


-Patrick


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-10-11, Patrick McCarty wrote:
 On 2009-10-11, Valentin Villenave wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk 
  wrote:
   I used that download but I didn't uninstall; I usually just remain
   the directory in Program Files before an install as I like to keep
   old versions readily to hand.  This seems to be the difference
   between our experiences.
  
  That must be the reason: here's my own screenshot of the 2.13.4-1
  installer on a virgin Vista64 box (that never had LilyPond
  installed).
 
 BTW, this looks like the commit that changed the behavior:

And here is a patch to revert the change.

-Patrick
From 2dbcd7705dcfaa93eedf9df8eb50616d4503a885 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:48:52 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] Use LilyPond instead of GNU_LilyPond

There have been many complaints about this name change,
including the fact that it breaks LilyPondTool.
---
 gub/installer.py |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/gub/installer.py b/gub/installer.py
index 9330367..8977b12 100644
--- a/gub/installer.py
+++ b/gub/installer.py
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ from gub import commands
 pretty_names = {
 'denemo': 'GNU_Denemo',
 'git': 'Git',
-'lilypond': 'GNU_LilyPond',
+'lilypond': 'LilyPond',
 'openoffice': 'Go-Oo_OpenOffice.org',
 'ooo-build': 'Go-Oo_OpenOffice.org',
 }
-- 
1.6.5

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote:
 And here is a patch to revert the change.

This is similar to the patch I posted earlier -- except that yours does work :-)

Cheers,
Valentin
From 2dbcd7705dcfaa93eedf9df8eb50616d4503a885 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:48:52 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] Use LilyPond instead of GNU_LilyPond

There have been many complaints about this name change,
including the fact that it breaks LilyPondTool.
---
 gub/installer.py |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/gub/installer.py b/gub/installer.py
index 9330367..8977b12 100644
--- a/gub/installer.py
+++ b/gub/installer.py
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ from gub import commands
 pretty_names = {
 'denemo': 'GNU_Denemo',
 'git': 'Git',
-'lilypond': 'GNU_LilyPond',
+'lilypond': 'LilyPond',
 'openoffice': 'Go-Oo_OpenOffice.org',
 'ooo-build': 'Go-Oo_OpenOffice.org',
 }
-- 
1.6.5

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-11 Thread Trevor Daniels

Francisco Vila wrote Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:12 PM


2009/10/11 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk:

You don't need to uninstall; rename works
fine if you want to keep the previous around.


I didn't know that the installer could be fooled that easy. I 
rather
remember the opposite: the installer refusing to cooperate even 
after

having uninstalled a previous version.


I've never had a problem after renaming (or
deleting) the LilyPond directory.  It's also
a lot faster than uninstall.  Of course if
you've modified or added files you have to be
careful if you want to keep them.

If everything is based on the existence of a given directory, then 
all

is clear.  I believed that the registry had something to do.


The only entries in the registry are the location
of lilypond.exe and the downloaded install files
(if you have saved them).  So as long as the name
of the directory remains the same the old registry
entry works fine.  Actually I don't think uninstall
removes anything from the registry anyway (but I
haven't tested this and I may be wrong).

Trevor



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Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Mark Austin
Having downloaded 2.13.4 for Windows, and not having used Lilypond for
a few weks, I tried to complie a new tune. In attempting to convert to
the new version, I got this error from Lilypond Tool:

convert-ly.py --edit C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python: can't open file 'c:\Program
Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py': [Errno 2] No such file or
directory

Similarly, when trying gto compile a tune, I get:

LilyPond ready.
%lilypond %args C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
Processing time:  3  seconds

All the files convert and compile OK under the command line, and files
that used to compile return the same errors.

Have these files moved or something?

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Nick Payne

Mark Austin wrote:

Having downloaded 2.13.4 for Windows, and not having used Lilypond for
a few weks, I tried to complie a new tune. In attempting to convert to
the new version, I got this error from Lilypond Tool:

convert-ly.py --edit C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python: can't open file 'c:\Program
Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py': [Errno 2] No such file or
directory

Similarly, when trying gto compile a tune, I get:

LilyPond ready.
%lilypond %args C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
Processing time:  3  seconds

All the files convert and compile OK under the command line, and files
that used to compile return the same errors.

Have these files moved or something?
  
The 2.13.4 default install dir is now C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond and 
not C:\Program Files\LilyPond...


Nick


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Mark Austin
2009/10/10 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:
 Mark Austin wrote:

 Having downloaded 2.13.4 for Windows, and not having used Lilypond for
 a few weks, I tried to complie a new tune. In attempting to convert to
 the new version, I got this error from Lilypond Tool:

 convert-ly.py --edit C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
 Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
 c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python: can't open file 'c:\Program
 Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py': [Errno 2] No such file or
 directory

 Similarly, when trying gto compile a tune, I get:

 LilyPond ready.
 %lilypond %args C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
 Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
 ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
 Processing time:  3  seconds

 All the files convert and compile OK under the command line, and files
 that used to compile return the same errors.

 Have these files moved or something?


 The 2.13.4 default install dir is now C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond and not
 C:\Program Files\LilyPond...

That explains it. Is there a patch available?

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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Nick Payne

Mark Austin wrote:

2009/10/10 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:
  

Mark Austin wrote:


Having downloaded 2.13.4 for Windows, and not having used Lilypond for
a few weks, I tried to complie a new tune. In attempting to convert to
the new version, I got this error from Lilypond Tool:

convert-ly.py --edit C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\python: can't open file 'c:\Program
Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py': [Errno 2] No such file or
directory

Similarly, when trying gto compile a tune, I get:

LilyPond ready.
%lilypond %args C:\Users\Mark Austin\Documents\Marks
Files\Folklore\Mumming Plays\Music\Kempsford-01.ly
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
Processing time:  3  seconds

All the files convert and compile OK under the command line, and files
that used to compile return the same errors.

Have these files moved or something?

  

The 2.13.4 default install dir is now C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond and not
C:\Program Files\LilyPond...



That explains it. Is there a patch available?

  
Yes. Go to plugin options in jedit for lilypondtool and change the 
lilypond path to the new location...


Nick


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)



Have these files moved or something?
  
The 2.13.4 default install dir is now C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond 
and not C:\Program Files\LilyPond...
Who invented this stupidity? Is there a nonGNU lilypond? Is GIMP 
installed in GNU_IMP?

Why people always have the temptation to break things that work perfectly?
OMG.

Bert


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
 The 2.13.4 default install dir is now C:\Program Files\GNU_LilyPond and
 not C:\Program Files\LilyPond...

 Who invented this stupidity? Is there a nonGNU lilypond? Is GIMP installed
 in GNU_IMP?
 Why people always have the temptation to break things that work perfectly?
 OMG.

Actually, I first noticed it with Neil's temporary 2.13.4 mingw build,
back in July. I can't find any trace of this pretty_name change on
Jan's Github repo, I assume it's just some temporary whimsical idea
from either Graham or Neil :-)

Since it breaks LilyPondTool's default configuration, I believe it
would be wiser to revert this change, unless there's a more compelling
reason to keep it.

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/10/10 Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com:

 Actually, I first noticed it with Neil's temporary 2.13.4 mingw build,
 back in July. I can't find any trace of this pretty_name change on
 Jan's Github repo, I assume it's just some temporary whimsical idea
 from either Graham or Neil :-)

Nowt to do with me, I'm afraid; I just noticed it when producing that
MinGW build (which I've had no success building since).

I doubt it's a deliberate change.

Regards,
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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 06:47:18PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
 lilypondt...@organum.hu wrote:
  Who invented this stupidity? Is there a nonGNU lilypond? Is GIMP installed
  in GNU_IMP?
  Why people always have the temptation to break things that work perfectly?
  OMG.
 
 Actually, I first noticed it with Neil's temporary 2.13.4 mingw build,
 back in July. I can't find any trace of this pretty_name change on
 Jan's Github repo, I assume it's just some temporary whimsical idea
 from either Graham or Neil :-)

Not deliberate.

 Since it breaks LilyPondTool's default configuration, I believe it
 would be wiser to revert this change, unless there's a more compelling
 reason to keep it.

Patch appreciated, since we're such OMG stupid idiots to fix stuff
ourselves.


... in fact, rather than appreciated, let's say required.
We're having enough problems building for windows; I for one am
not going to lift a finger to investigate this change.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
 Patch appreciated, since we're such OMG stupid idiots to fix stuff
 ourselves.

I'd have sent a patch if I knew where the mao the code is :-)

Oh wait, I just found it. Patch attached.

 ... in fact, rather than appreciated, let's say required.
 We're having enough problems building for windows; I for one am
 not going to lift a finger to investigate this change.

I do understand you.

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit

2009-10-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
I installed both Neil's and Graham's 2.13.4 releases under Windows 
Vista and AFAICR the default directory was LilyPond as usual.  I 
certainly didn't change anything and they went into a directory 
named Program Files/LilyPond.  Have I missed something here?


Trevor

- Original Message - 
From: Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com

To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with Lilypond Tool/JEdit



On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Patch appreciated, since we're such OMG stupid idiots to fix 
stuff

ourselves.


I'd have sent a patch if I knew where the mao the code is :-)

Oh wait, I just found it. Patch attached.


... in fact, rather than appreciated, let's say required.
We're having enough problems building for windows; I for one am
not going to lift a finger to investigate this change.


I do understand you.

Cheers,
Valentin








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