Re: 2.6 device node help

2004-04-27 Thread Martin Schwidefsky
 I don't think you're on crack,
 but the book might be.   4,64 is a UART class serial line.
 Not likely your zSeries will have that.   But all HW have 5,1 console.

Well, neither is on crack. The 3215/sclp console driver use 4,64 as device
node, so the dd-book is correct. But nevertheless you have to use 5,1
for /dev/console. The device that hides behind 5,1 is a redirector to the
real console.

blue skies,
   Martin

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Re: 2.6 device node help

2004-04-27 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
Richard Troth wrote:
  Adam Thornton wote:
  OK, so, am I on CRACK or does the Linux 2.6 device drivers book say to
  create 4,64 ?
 I don't think you're on crack,
 but the book might be.   4,64 is a UART class serial line.
 Not likely your zSeries will have that.   But all HW have 5,1 console.

On zSeries, the 3215 terminal device driver (VM) and the SCLP line-mode
terminal driver (LPAR) are implemented as ttyS0 (4,64). Device number (5,1)
is the console terminal device (commonly /dev/console) which is required by
the init process for input/output.

The following should fix the problem:

mknod /dev/console c 5 1


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Re: Monthly forehead bruising: inittab ctrlaltdel

2004-04-27 Thread Nick Laflamme
David Boyes wrote:
Given that I seem to have that right and seem to be at a current-enough (too current?) 
level of SLES 8, what else do I look for?

I'm kind of puzzled what you're asking. Is it not working, or is it
doing something weird?
I'll go with, It's doing something weird.
At the end of the timeout period, the kernel logs the virtual machine
off. However, the shutdown command has not run. That it logs itself off
tells me that something is happening. That shutdown never runs tells me
that something weird is happening (or something good isn't happening).
That's what makes me suspect a syntax issue: the kernel is trying to do
something, but it's getting lost along the way and not taking the path
it should.
Mark's reference to telinit q wasn't directly relevant; I've re-booted
this image several times after less-than-graceful responses to SIGNALs
SHUTDOWN. However, that got me thinking about the runlevel, which, when
I checked it, was unknown. If I init 3 and then test the SIGNAL
SHUTDOWN, it works as expected.
So, my next puzzle is, what's with the unknown runlevel? Or, just how
screwed up is this particular Linux image? Fortunately, it's my test
image. I haven't rebuilt it in a few weeks; must be time to do so. :-)
-- db
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Re: Monthly forehead bruising: inittab ctrlaltdel

2004-04-27 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
It worked for us pretty much as advertised.

Have you tried issuing the signal with the console logged on so you can watch the 
messages?

Or use a program like track.

You should get a message from the kernel that the signal was caught even if the script 
doesn't run:

09:06:05 CAD: Sending SIGINT to PID 1...
Apr 27 09:06:05 lnxsp3t kernel: CAD: Sending SIGINT to PID 1...

 Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Tue Apr 27 09:06:05 2004 ...
lnxsp3t kernel: CAD: Sending SIGINT to PID 1...




 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
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 ctrlaltdel


 David Boyes wrote:

 Given that I seem to have that right and seem to be at a
 current-enough (too current?) level of SLES 8, what else do I
 look for?
 
 
 
 I'm kind of puzzled what you're asking. Is it not working, or is it
 doing something weird?
 

 I'll go with, It's doing something weird.

 At the end of the timeout period, the kernel logs the virtual machine
 off. However, the shutdown command has not run. That it logs
 itself off
 tells me that something is happening. That shutdown never
 runs tells me
 that something weird is happening (or something good isn't happening).
 That's what makes me suspect a syntax issue: the kernel is
 trying to do
 something, but it's getting lost along the way and not taking the path
 it should.

 Mark's reference to telinit q wasn't directly relevant;
 I've re-booted
 this image several times after less-than-graceful responses to SIGNALs
 SHUTDOWN. However, that got me thinking about the runlevel,
 which, when
 I checked it, was unknown. If I init 3 and then test the SIGNAL
 SHUTDOWN, it works as expected.

 So, my next puzzle is, what's with the unknown runlevel?
 Or, just how
 screwed up is this particular Linux image? Fortunately, it's my test
 image. I haven't rebuilt it in a few weeks; must be time to do so. :-)

 -- db
 

 Nick

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New England Users of VM (NEUVM) Spring Meeting - May 18, 2004

2004-04-27 Thread Michael Coffin
Cross-posted on NEUVM-L, VMESA-L and LINUX-390 - feel free to forward
as appropriate.

Greetings!

NEUVM will be holding it's Spring Meeting on May 18, 2004 at Lombardo's
in Randolph, Massachusetts.

For meeting details and online registration click here:

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We've updated the agenda since last Friday's announcement to include
Gerard Shockley's presentation on running Tomcast on SuSE Z/Linux:


User Experience:  Tomcat on SuSE z/Linux
Gerard Shockley, Boston University

The presentation is geared toward new sites running on z/Series and
performs a brief introduction of z/Series strategy and platform
strengths, and demonstrates an actual project flow and technical details
on activating Tomcat with SSL support and a servelet application.
Included in the discussion are system administration skill sets required
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Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread James Melin
After some initial poking and prodding and smacking things about, I've
gotten windows (using the Windows Services for Unix package from microsoft)
to see and navigate NFS mounted shares, but It seems that I had to more
that I feel was necessary in order to make it work.

Initially, linux complained when my windows PC tried to get the share:

Apr 26 12:26:43 rockhopper rpc.mountd: can't get hostname of 137.70.103.112

That turned out to be the DHCP assigned IP address for my windows machine.

As soon as I got a static IP with a DNS entry assigned, all was well.

I altered the /etc/exports to recognize the DNS entry assigned to this and
I could make it navigate the tree.

I have yet to be able to make the mount command, which is replaced with
something new when you install Windows Services for Unix, to actually mount
the NFS share, but I have been able to use 'my network places' to see the
share on the target machine. I think however it is using UDP. When I
started doing this, these messages started appearing in my log about every
10 minutes.

Apr 27 08:30:46 rockhopper inetd[83]: netbios-ns/udp server failing
(looping), service terminate

Anyway, is there something I need to do differently in my exports file to
not require DNS reverse lookup of an inbound host?

My exports file looks like this. For this test (after I got the static IP)
I added gsopdwdf911 (my DNS name. Strange name I know) to one single share,
and I can get there no problem usning 'my network places'
I'm just wondering about the wisdom of including IP address ranges, or if
that is even going to work

# See exports(5) for a description.
# This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers.
# It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd.

/images itasca(ro) calhoun(ro) pepin(ro) phalen(ro) nokomis(ro) pequot(ro)
/images/ibm/Msg_broker/db2 itasca(ro) calhoun(ro) pepin(ro) phalen(ro)
nokomis(ro) pequot(ro) gsopdwdf911(ro)
/images/ibm/Msg_broker/was_MQ itasca(ro) calhoun(ro) pepin(ro) phalen(ro)
nokomis(ro) pequot(ro)
/images/ibm/Msg_broker/was_MB itasca(ro) calhoun(ro) pepin(ro) phalen(ro)
nokomis(ro) pequot(ro)

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Re: Monthly forehead bruising: inittab ctrlaltdel

2004-04-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
Nick Laflamme wrote:
So, my next puzzle is, what's with the unknown runlevel? Or, just how
screwed up is this particular Linux image? Fortunately, it's my test
image. I haven't rebuilt it in a few weeks; must be time to do so. :-)
The 'runlevel' command should tell you...
I am not sure whether this has been brought up again in this thread, but
one popular and effective way to mess up the SLES 8 install is to forget
running the YaST.sshinstall after the first boot. That's the portion
that asks you (again) to set the root password, add other users, etc.
You're prompted to run that by some messages during the shutdown after
the first time you ran YaST, and it is easy to miss. The system appears
to be sort of working but does strange things.
Rob
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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Gentry
James, since you said you installed Unix services, do you have an 'NFS
network' entry under 'Entire Network' (under 'My Network Places')?
IOW, My Network Places -- Entire Network -- NFS Network.  If so did you
right click to add a new entry under NFS Network?   I used the static
IP of my Linux machine when I config'd it for NFS Network.  I also made
the necessary changes to the Linux side in /etc/exports and all worked
well,
albeit very slowly.  I wasn't going to implement this into production, so
I wasn't to worried about the speed.  But since the subject has been
brought up
does anyone know why the reponse time would be so slow?

Steve Gentry
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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread James Melin
I have been unable to get that to actually see the linux instances on the
mainframe.  If sees the linux PC in my cube which is also running NFS, and
it put that in the 'default lan' group.

When I attempt to do the 'add' part it pops up a box saying add/remove NFS
LAN's, so I click add.

I then get a box that says Add Broadcast Lan (not what I would expect but I
go with it)

I wants a name to call it, so I put in nokomis. My linux guest running NFS.

Then It wants IP address of any Host in the LAN - meaning what exactly?
Dunno. I put the IP address of 'nokomis' in there

Then it wants the subnet mask, and I enter that. Then it somehow gets the
broadcast address by itself, and from what I see it is getting it wrong, as
it's on a diff subnet.

The IP address of nokimis is 137.70.100.134, and the net mask is
255.255.254.0 but the broadcast address is being returned as
137.70.101.255.

As I vaguely recall, the 101 had somethign to do with the VIPA setup on our
OSA cards...  I am confused here.





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James, since you said you installed Unix services, do you have an 'NFS
network' entry under 'Entire Network' (under 'My Network Places')?
IOW, My Network Places -- Entire Network -- NFS Network.  If so did you
right click to add a new entry under NFS Network?   I used the static
IP of my Linux machine when I config'd it for NFS Network.  I also made
the necessary changes to the Linux side in /etc/exports and all worked
well,
albeit very slowly.  I wasn't going to implement this into production, so
I wasn't to worried about the speed.  But since the subject has been
brought up
does anyone know why the reponse time would be so slow?

Steve Gentry
Lafayette Life Ins. Co.

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread David Boyes
 Initially, linux complained when my windows PC tried to get the share:
 Apr 26 12:26:43 rockhopper rpc.mountd: can't get hostname of
 137.70.103.112

As it should -- this is a security feature. It's actually creating an
audit trail for your actions and couldn't get a hostname to log it in
the audit trail. It's a transient complaint -- it went ahead and logged
the IP address, but the permanent fix is to get DNS names assigned to
your DHCP pools (example: dhcp-137-70-103-112.foo.bar.edu). It's a good
idea anyway, and it makes tracking troublemakers a lot easier.

 I have yet to be able to make the mount command, which is
 replaced with
 something new when you install Windows Services for Unix, to
 actually mount
 the NFS share, but I have been able to use 'my network
 places' to see the
 share on the target machine. I think however it is using UDP. When I
 started doing this, these messages started appearing in my
 log about every
 10 minutes.

 Apr 27 08:30:46 rockhopper inetd[83]: netbios-ns/udp server failing
 (looping), service terminate

Nope. The Windows code is looking for a WINS server (netbios-ns is the
official IETF name for WINS). rockhopper has a entry in /etc/services
for the WINS port, which doesn't appear to be configured on this machine
(causing it to die), and inetd eventually decides that that service is
broken and it's going to ignore requests for it (thus the message).
Installing/configuring Samba and enabling WINS support will cause this
message to go away. Why the Windows code wants it, I can't imagine...

 Anyway, is there something I need to do differently in my
 exports file to
 not require DNS reverse lookup of an inbound host?

No. Get your network people to put proper reverse mappings in your DNS
for their DHCP pools. This problem will occur in other services, and
it's probably affecting the performance of your existing services as
well (you're waiting for reverse resolution on every connect if you have
systems or services that are trying to be more secure and log things).
You might as well fix the problem instead of the symptoms.

 I'm just wondering about the wisdom of including IP address
 ranges, or if
 that is even going to work

It will work, but it's a problem waiting to happen. Get the DNS fixed.

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread David Boyes
 I
 also made
 the necessary changes to the Linux side in /etc/exports and all worked
 well,
 albeit very slowly.  I wasn't going to implement this into
 production, so
 I wasn't to worried about the speed.  But since the subject has been
 brought up
 does anyone know why the reponse time would be so slow?

Does your NFS client have a reverse mapping in DNS for it's IP address?
If not, you're probably experiencing some of the delays I mentioned in
my response to James.  The Unix world cares about stuff like this
(discounting my normal healthy network admin fascism about if it ain't
in DNS, it probably isn't something I should be talking to).

Another possibility: NFS is stateless, and some of it's security is
based on IP address. It does a lot of DNS lookups, and you can
dramatically change it's performance by making sure forward and reverse
DNS is correct.

It (NFS Services) isn't great code -- the phrase MS Porcine Choral
Society comes to mind. There's a lot of (IMHO) unnecessary mapping
going on in the filesystem drivers, and it's in no particular hurry to
do things efficiently.

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Gentry
Sounds like you followed the correct steps on the PC side.  We keep our
network addressing pretty simple.  Whereas, my pc is on
network  10.53.x.x  and zLinux is  10.140.x.x  Like I said, I have no
problems seeing it and getting to it, but response time can be a little
slow. This slowness is unrelated to how busy the box is at the time.  BTW,
I am running RH EL 2.85  (taroon).
Steve





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I have been unable to get that to actually see the linux instances on the
mainframe.  If sees the linux PC in my cube which is also running NFS, and
it put that in the 'default lan' group.

When I attempt to do the 'add' part it pops up a box saying add/remove NFS
LAN's, so I click add.

I then get a box that says Add Broadcast Lan (not what I would expect but
I
go with it)

I wants a name to call it, so I put in nokomis. My linux guest running
NFS.

Then It wants IP address of any Host in the LAN - meaning what exactly?
Dunno. I put the IP address of 'nokomis' in there

Then it wants the subnet mask, and I enter that. Then it somehow gets the
broadcast address by itself, and from what I see it is getting it wrong,
as
it's on a diff subnet.

The IP address of nokimis is 137.70.100.134, and the net mask is
255.255.254.0 but the broadcast address is being returned as
137.70.101.255.

As I vaguely recall, the 101 had somethign to do with the VIPA setup on
our
OSA cards...  I am confused here.





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James, since you said you installed Unix services, do you have an 'NFS
network' entry under 'Entire Network' (under 'My Network Places')?
IOW, My Network Places -- Entire Network -- NFS Network.  If so did you
right click to add a new entry under NFS Network?   I used the static
IP of my Linux machine when I config'd it for NFS Network.  I also made
the necessary changes to the Linux side in /etc/exports and all worked
well,
albeit very slowly.  I wasn't going to implement this into production, so
I wasn't to worried about the speed.  But since the subject has been
brought up
does anyone know why the reponse time would be so slow?

Steve Gentry
Lafayette Life Ins. Co.

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Your broadcast address looks right to me.  I don't know if I can explain this well, 
but I will try.

The subnet mask that you specified says that the subnet has a 9 bit host address.  
Thus the last 9 bits of the IP address specifies the host on the subnet.  The 
broadcast address on this subnet has the last 9 bits on.  In general the broadcast 
address has all bits of the host part on.  Therefore the broadcast address is the 
upper 23 bits of the IP for the subnet with all ones for the host part, which is 
137.70.101.255.  The 101 is due to the fact that the last bit is on for the broadcast 
address.  Note that 101 in binary is 01100101 - that last bit is one.  A 100 would be 
01100100.

Now if you are sure that the broadcast address is wrong, then your subnet mask must be 
wrong.

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I have been unable to get that to actually see the linux instances on the
mainframe.  If sees the linux PC in my cube which is also running NFS, and
it put that in the 'default lan' group.

When I attempt to do the 'add' part it pops up a box saying add/remove NFS
LAN's, so I click add.

I then get a box that says Add Broadcast Lan (not what I would expect but I
go with it)

I wants a name to call it, so I put in nokomis. My linux guest running NFS.

Then It wants IP address of any Host in the LAN - meaning what exactly?
Dunno. I put the IP address of 'nokomis' in there

Then it wants the subnet mask, and I enter that. Then it somehow gets the
broadcast address by itself, and from what I see it is getting it wrong, as
it's on a diff subnet.

The IP address of nokimis is 137.70.100.134, and the net mask is
255.255.254.0 but the broadcast address is being returned as
137.70.101.255.

As I vaguely recall, the 101 had somethign to do with the VIPA setup on our
OSA cards...  I am confused here.





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James, since you said you installed Unix services, do you have an 'NFS
network' entry under 'Entire Network' (under 'My Network Places')?
IOW, My Network Places -- Entire Network -- NFS Network.  If so did you
right click to add a new entry under NFS Network?   I used the static
IP of my Linux machine when I config'd it for NFS Network.  I also made
the necessary changes to the Linux side in /etc/exports and all worked
well,
albeit very slowly.  I wasn't going to implement this into production, so
I wasn't to worried about the speed.  But since the subject has been
brought up
does anyone know why the reponse time would be so slow?

Steve Gentry
Lafayette Life Ins. Co.

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread James Melin
Of course, now I cant remember how to get linux to barf up the broadcast
address it is using, but if memory serves, for all my linuxes, the IP
addresses are 137.70.100.xxx and the default gateway is 137.70.100.3, the
netmask is set to 255.255.254.0. We orignally had a netmask of
255.255.255.0 but I changed to to ...254.0 per my network group after the
install. The broadcast address that was set at install time was, I'm quite
sure 137.70.100.255. So what is the implication of changing the netmask
after the install? Is that part of what is causing this?

Curiously, while doing the'my network places'NFS Nework---add/remove
NFS LANs fails, entering the DNS name as \\nokomis in the address bar DOES
in fact pull up the NFS shares on that machine and I can navigate them. So
that's a plus.





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Your broadcast address looks right to me.  I don't know if I can explain
this well, but I will try.

The subnet mask that you specified says that the subnet has a 9 bit host
address.  Thus the last 9 bits of the IP address specifies the host on the
subnet.  The broadcast address on this subnet has the last 9 bits on.  In
general the broadcast address has all bits of the host part on.  Therefore
the broadcast address is the upper 23 bits of the IP for the subnet with
all ones for the host part, which is 137.70.101.255.  The 101 is due to the
fact that the last bit is on for the broadcast address.  Note that 101 in
binary is 01100101 - that last bit is one.  A 100 would be 01100100.

Now if you are sure that the broadcast address is wrong, then your subnet
mask must be wrong.

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From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have been unable to get that to actually see the linux instances on the
mainframe.  If sees the linux PC in my cube which is also running NFS, and
it put that in the 'default lan' group.

When I attempt to do the 'add' part it pops up a box saying add/remove NFS
LAN's, so I click add.

I then get a box that says Add Broadcast Lan (not what I would expect but I
go with it)

I wants a name to call it, so I put in nokomis. My linux guest running NFS.

Then It wants IP address of any Host in the LAN - meaning what exactly?
Dunno. I put the IP address of 'nokomis' in there

Then it wants the subnet mask, and I enter that. Then it somehow gets the
broadcast address by itself, and from what I see it is getting it wrong, as
it's on a diff subnet.

The IP address of nokimis is 137.70.100.134, and the net mask is
255.255.254.0 but the broadcast address is being returned as
137.70.101.255.

As I vaguely recall, the 101 had somethign to do with the VIPA setup on our
OSA cards...  I am confused here.





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James, since you said you installed Unix services, do you have an 'NFS
network' entry under 'Entire Network' (under 'My Network Places')?
IOW, My Network Places -- Entire Network -- NFS Network.  If so did you
right click to add a new entry under NFS Network?   I used the static
IP of my Linux machine when I config'd it for NFS Network.  I also made
the necessary changes to the Linux side in /etc/exports and all worked
well,
albeit very slowly.  I wasn't going to implement this into production, so
I wasn't to worried about the speed.  But since the subject has been
brought up
does anyone know why the reponse time would be so slow?

Steve Gentry
Lafayette Life Ins. Co.

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 12:36, James Melin wrote:
 Of course, now I cant remember how to get linux to barf up the broadcast
 address it is using, but if memory serves, for all my linuxes, the IP
 addresses are 137.70.100.xxx and the default gateway is 137.70.100.3, the
 netmask is set to 255.255.254.0. We orignally had a netmask of
 255.255.255.0 but I changed to to ...254.0 per my network group after the
 install. The broadcast address that was set at install time was, I'm quite
 sure 137.70.100.255. So what is the implication of changing the netmask
 after the install? Is that part of what is causing this?

Yep.  Your network just got wider.  Your new correct broadcast address
should be 137.70.101.255.

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
now I cant remember how to get linux to barf up the broadcast
 address it is using,
 
Try issuing the command ifconfig -- it should tell you.

Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light. - Alexander Pope

It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo.- John Collings Squire

God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day.   - Jagdish Mehra

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VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

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 Of course, now I cant remember how to get linux to barf up the broadcast
 address it is using, but if memory serves, for all my linuxes, the IP
 addresses are 137.70.100.xxx and the default gateway is 137.70.100.3, the
 netmask is set to 255.255.254.0. We orignally had a netmask of
 255.255.255.0 but I changed to to ...254.0 per my network group after the
 install. The broadcast address that was set at install time was, I'm quite
 sure 137.70.100.255. So what is the implication of changing the netmask
 after the install? Is that part of what is causing this?
 
 Curiously, while doing the'my network places'NFS Nework---add/remove
 NFS LANs fails, entering the DNS name as \\nokomis in the address bar DOES
 in fact pull up the NFS shares on that machine and I can navigate them. So
 that's a plus.
 
 
 
 
 
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 Your broadcast address looks right to me.  I don't know if I can explain
 this well, but I will try.
 
 The subnet mask that you specified says that the subnet has a 9 bit host
 address.  Thus the last 9 bits of the IP address specifies the host on the
 subnet.  The broadcast address on this subnet has the last 9 bits on.  In
 general the broadcast address has all bits of the host part on.  Therefore
 the broadcast address is the upper 23 bits of the IP for the subnet with
 all ones for the host part, which is 137.70.101.255.  The 101 is due to the
 fact that the last bit is on for the broadcast address.  Note that 101 in
 binary is 01100101 - that last bit is one.  A 100 would be 01100100.
 
 Now if you are sure that the broadcast address is wrong, then your subnet
 mask must be wrong.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability
 
 
 I have been unable to get that to actually see the linux instances on the
 mainframe.  If sees the linux PC in my cube which is also running NFS, and
 it put that in the 'default lan' group.
 
 When I attempt to do the 'add' part it pops up a box saying add/remove NFS
 LAN's, so I click add.
 
 I then get a box that says Add Broadcast Lan (not what I would expect but I
 go with it)
 
 I wants a name to call it, so I put in nokomis. My linux guest running NFS.
 
 Then It wants IP address of any Host in the LAN - meaning what exactly? 
 Dunno. I put the IP address of 'nokomis' in there
 
 Then it wants the subnet mask, and I enter that. Then it somehow gets the
 broadcast address by itself, and from what I see it is getting it wrong, as
 it's on a diff subnet.
 
 The IP address of nokimis is 137.70.100.134, and the net mask is
 255.255.254.0 but the broadcast address is being returned as
 137.70.101.255.
 
 As I vaguely recall, the 101 had somethign to do with the VIPA setup on our
 OSA cards...  I am confused here.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread James Melin
I was finally able to get it to tell me what broadcast address it was
using, and yes infact it is now using 101.255. I cannot tell you if it was
using 100.255 previously with the 255.255.255.0 NM.




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Your broadcast address looks right to me.  I don't know if I can explain
this well, but I will try.

The subnet mask that you specified says that the subnet has a 9 bit host
address.  Thus the last 9 bits of the IP address specifies the host on the
subnet.  The broadcast address on this subnet has the last 9 bits on.  In
general the broadcast address has all bits of the host part on.  Therefore
the broadcast address is the upper 23 bits of the IP for the subnet with
all ones for the host part, which is 137.70.101.255.  The 101 is due to the
fact that the last bit is on for the broadcast address.  Note that 101 in
binary is 01100101 - that last bit is one.  A 100 would be 01100100.

Now if you are sure that the broadcast address is wrong, then your subnet
mask must be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability


I have been unable to get that to actually see the linux instances on the
mainframe.  If sees the linux PC in my cube which is also running NFS, and
it put that in the 'default lan' group.

When I attempt to do the 'add' part it pops up a box saying add/remove NFS
LAN's, so I click add.

I then get a box that says Add Broadcast Lan (not what I would expect but I
go with it)

I wants a name to call it, so I put in nokomis. My linux guest running NFS.

Then It wants IP address of any Host in the LAN - meaning what exactly?
Dunno. I put the IP address of 'nokomis' in there

Then it wants the subnet mask, and I enter that. Then it somehow gets the
broadcast address by itself, and from what I see it is getting it wrong, as
it's on a diff subnet.

The IP address of nokimis is 137.70.100.134, and the net mask is
255.255.254.0 but the broadcast address is being returned as
137.70.101.255.

As I vaguely recall, the 101 had somethign to do with the VIPA setup on our
OSA cards...  I am confused here.





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James, since you said you installed Unix services, do you have an 'NFS
network' entry under 'Entire Network' (under 'My Network Places')?
IOW, My Network Places -- Entire Network -- NFS Network.  If so did you
right click to add a new entry under NFS Network?   I used the static
IP of my Linux machine when I config'd it for NFS Network.  I also made
the necessary changes to the Linux side in /etc/exports and all worked
well,
albeit very slowly.  I wasn't going to implement this into production, so
I wasn't to worried about the speed.  But since the subject has been
brought up
does anyone know why the reponse time would be so slow?

Steve Gentry
Lafayette Life Ins. Co.

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Re: Monthly forehead bruising: inittab ctrlaltdel

2004-04-27 Thread Post, Mark K
Well, that would only leave 0 and 6 (or unknown as he's reporting), either
of which would mean the system wasn't very usable at that moment.  :)


Mark Post

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Nick wrote:
  I know I've asked about this before on this list, and several of you
  have repeated the syntax for /etc/inittab, typically:
 
  ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -h now

Just looked at mine and it's
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -h now

Perhaps you are not in run levels 1 through 5?

Just a thought.

Marcy

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Samba process runaway

2004-04-27 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Samba 2.2.8a in our SLES 8 SP3 systems has a bad bug.  Samba keeps running out of 
control and eating up CPU, meanwhile, customers access to the samba shares dies.  When 
it happens, there appears to be wy too many samba processes spawned, yet only one 
of them is going bezerk according to top.  I've had level 3 samba logging turned on, 
but I'm not capturing anything that I can identify as the cause.  I see some oplock 
messages, but those come in during good  bad times.  The other thing I notice is 
there is typically a file or directory not found error in the log, too, prior to the 
bad behavior, although I don't see how that could be a cause.

Anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this?

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It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo.- John Collings Squire

God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day.   - Jagdish Mehra

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Re: Monthly forehead bruising: inittab ctrlaltdel

2004-04-27 Thread Nick Laflamme
Should doesn't count. How many times have we heard, In theory,
practice and theory agree. In reality, theory and practice differ?
This is one of those times. :-)
Rob van der Heij's warning bout YaST2-sshinstall was probably exactly on
target: when I reran the install process today for my test image and
made a point of running it, it didn't look familiar to me. I can't
believe I missed it, but I apparently I did.
Before I had done all that, when I was worrying about why the runlevel
was unknown, it didn't matter if I had the 12345 in that insttab
line or left it blank; it wasn't getting picked up either way. Forcing
the system into run level 3 with an init 3 made it work. Getting a
clean re-install seems to have worked wonders. The system now comes up
in run level 3, and my acne's even clearing up.
I can't decide if I'm relieve to finally get this working or hugely
embarrassed that I apparently screwed up the install process so thoroughly.
Hopefully, the next time someone has odd-ball issues with run levels and
SIGNAL SHUTDOWN, these notes will aim them in the right direction.
Nick
Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote:
Mine (working) is:
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -y -g0
Should work either way though.

-Original Message-
From: Post, Mark K
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:14 PM
Well, that would only leave 0 and 6 (or unknown as he's reporting), either of 
which would mean the system wasn't very usable at that moment.  :)
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Marcy Cortes
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:55 AM
Perhaps you are not in run levels 1 through 5?
Just a thought.
Marcy


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DASD Errors due to R/O

2004-04-27 Thread Bob
Hello. I am trying to setup a linux/s390 using shared OS DASD using the
BIND mountS Guestvol/Basevol procedure. Everything seems to be setup
correctly but everytime I boot the R/O system I get this DASD error. This
error comes out before the bind mount of /guestvol/etc over /etc and this
these error continue non-stop. Anyone know how to tell what this error is?

dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 3880/00
dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 3990/00
dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 2105/00
dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 9343/00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: EXAMINE 24: Command Reject
detected - fatal error
dasd(eckd): Sense data:
dasd(eckd):device 0601 on irq 6: I/O status report:
dasd(eckd):in req: 0153af00 CS: 0x00 DS: 0x02
dasd(eckd):Failing CCW: 0153afe0
dasd(eckd):Sense(hex)  0- 7: 80 02 00 00 2a 00 00 00
dasd(eckd):Sense(hex)  8-15: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 14
14:52:15 dasd(eckd):Sense(hex) 16-23: 03 00 05 60 00 68 0f 00
dasd(eckd):Sense(hex) 24-31: 00 00 4c e0 00 00 00 00
dasd(eckd):24 Byte: 0 MSG 0, no MSGb to SYSOP
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: (EXAMINE) ERP chain report
for req: 0153af00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af00: c5c3d2c4
  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af10: 
0153af00  0153af00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af20: 
01567000  01532f00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af30: 
0153afd0 0302 
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af40: ff00
  0153afa0
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af50: 
  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af60: 
 011e 1a30
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af70: bb221455
8e627242 bb221455 8e627b42
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af80: 
  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af90: 0004
0030  0055d2b0
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Channel program (complete):
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153afd0: 63400010
0153afa0 47400010 0153afc0
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153afe0: 85001000
00846000  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153aff0: 
  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153b000: 
0153c000  01539000
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Failed CCW
(0153afe0) already logged
end_request: I/O error, dev 5e:05 (dasd), sector 4056
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: EXAMINE 24: Command Reject
detected - fatal error
dasd(eckd): Sense data:
dasd(eckd):device 0601 on irq 6: I/O status report:
dasd(eckd):in req: 0153af00 CS: 0x00 DS: 0x02
dasd(eckd):Failing CCW: 0153afe0
dasd(eckd):Sense(hex)  0- 7: 80 02 00 00 2a 00 00 00
dasd(eckd):Sense(hex)  8-15: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 14
dasd(eckd):Sense(hex) 16-23: 03 00 05 60 00 68 0f 00
dasd(eckd):Sense(hex) 24-31: 00 00 4c e0 00 00 00 00
dasd(eckd):24 Byte: 0 MSG 0, no MSGb to SYSOP
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: (EXAMINE) ERP chain report
for req: 0153af00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af00: c5c3d2c4
  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af10: 
0153af00  0153af00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af20: 
01567000  01532f00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af30: 
0153afd0 0302 
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af40: ff00
  0153afa0
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af50: 
  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af60: 
 011e 1a30
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af70: bb221455
8ec75620 bb221455 8ec75f00
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af80: 
  
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153af90: 0004
0030  0055d2b0
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Channel program (complete):
dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdb  ( 94:  4),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0153afd0: 63400010

Re: DASD Errors due to R/O

2004-04-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 14:03, Bob wrote:
 Hello. I am trying to setup a linux/s390 using shared OS DASD using the
 BIND mountS Guestvol/Basevol procedure. Everything seems to be setup
 correctly but everytime I boot the R/O system I get this DASD error. This
 error comes out before the bind mount of /guestvol/etc over /etc and this
 these error continue non-stop. Anyone know how to tell what this error is?

In the parmfile, specify something like dasd=...,601(ro),...

The system is trying to access the r/o device r/w.

Adam

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Re: Linux NFS shares and Windoze interoperability

2004-04-27 Thread Fargusson.Alan
The ifconfig -a command shows the broadcast address.

I am no TCP/IP expert, but I think that your subnet mask must be wrong.  This is based 
on the fact that the 137.70.100.255 broadcast address seems to work.

You could try changing the broadcast address on the system that is failing to 
137.70.100.255 with ifconfig and see if that works.  If it does I would probably 
change the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 on all the systems (of course I would test 
this on one of them first).

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Of course, now I cant remember how to get linux to barf up the broadcast
address it is using, but if memory serves, for all my linuxes, the IP
addresses are 137.70.100.xxx and the default gateway is 137.70.100.3, the
netmask is set to 255.255.254.0. We orignally had a netmask of
255.255.255.0 but I changed to to ...254.0 per my network group after the
install. The broadcast address that was set at install time was, I'm quite
sure 137.70.100.255. So what is the implication of changing the netmask
after the install? Is that part of what is causing this?

Curiously, while doing the'my network places'NFS Nework---add/remove
NFS LANs fails, entering the DNS name as \\nokomis in the address bar DOES
in fact pull up the NFS shares on that machine and I can navigate them. So
that's a plus.





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Your broadcast address looks right to me.  I don't know if I can explain
this well, but I will try.

The subnet mask that you specified says that the subnet has a 9 bit host
address.  Thus the last 9 bits of the IP address specifies the host on the
subnet.  The broadcast address on this subnet has the last 9 bits on.  In
general the broadcast address has all bits of the host part on.  Therefore
the broadcast address is the upper 23 bits of the IP for the subnet with
all ones for the host part, which is 137.70.101.255.  The 101 is due to the
fact that the last bit is on for the broadcast address.  Note that 101 in
binary is 01100101 - that last bit is one.  A 100 would be 01100100.

Now if you are sure that the broadcast address is wrong, then your subnet
mask must be wrong.

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I have been unable to get that to actually see the linux instances on the
mainframe.  If sees the linux PC in my cube which is also running NFS, and
it put that in the 'default lan' group.

When I attempt to do the 'add' part it pops up a box saying add/remove NFS
LAN's, so I click add.

I then get a box that says Add Broadcast Lan (not what I would expect but I
go with it)

I wants a name to call it, so I put in nokomis. My linux guest running NFS.

Then It wants IP address of any Host in the LAN - meaning what exactly?
Dunno. I put the IP address of 'nokomis' in there

Then it wants the subnet mask, and I enter that. Then it somehow gets the
broadcast address by itself, and from what I see it is getting it wrong, as
it's on a diff subnet.

The IP address of nokimis is 137.70.100.134, and the net mask is
255.255.254.0 but the broadcast address is being returned as
137.70.101.255.

As I vaguely recall, the 101 had somethign to do with the VIPA setup on our
OSA cards...  I am confused here.





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James, since you said you installed Unix services, do you have an 'NFS
network' entry under 'Entire Network' (under 'My Network Places')?
IOW, My Network Places -- Entire Network -- NFS Network.  If 

Re: Monthly forehead bruising: inittab ctrlaltdel

2004-04-27 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
On the original system, was there a line in inittab similar to the following?

# The default runlevel is defined here
id:3:initdefault:

With no default runlevel, I'm surprised anything was working.

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Nick Laflamme
 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Monthly forehead bruising: inittab 
 ctrlaltdel


 Should doesn't count. How many times have we heard, In theory,
 practice and theory agree. In reality, theory and practice differ?
 This is one of those times. :-)

 Rob van der Heij's warning bout YaST2-sshinstall was probably
 exactly on
 target: when I reran the install process today for my test image and
 made a point of running it, it didn't look familiar to me. I can't
 believe I missed it, but I apparently I did.

 Before I had done all that, when I was worrying about why the runlevel
 was unknown, it didn't matter if I had the 12345 in that insttab
 line or left it blank; it wasn't getting picked up either way. Forcing
 the system into run level 3 with an init 3 made it work. Getting a
 clean re-install seems to have worked wonders. The system now comes up
 in run level 3, and my acne's even clearing up.

 I can't decide if I'm relieve to finally get this working or hugely
 embarrassed that I apparently screwed up the install process
 so thoroughly.

 Hopefully, the next time someone has odd-ball issues with run
 levels and
 SIGNAL SHUTDOWN, these notes will aim them in the right direction.

 Nick


 Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote:

 Mine (working) is:
 
 ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -y -g0
 
 Should work either way though.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Post, Mark K
 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:14 PM
 
 
 Well, that would only leave 0 and 6 (or unknown as he's
 reporting), either of which would mean the system wasn't very
 usable at that moment.  :)
 
 
 Mark Post
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Marcy Cortes
 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:55 AM
 
 
 Perhaps you are not in run levels 1 through 5?
 
 Just a thought.
 
 Marcy
 
 
 
 

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Re: Samba process runaway

2004-04-27 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
We're running 2.2.8a on several servers and I've never seen this.

What we HAVE seen is that if the server loses contact with the LDAP server that 
contains the user/UID mappings, often the smbd processes hang.  I'm not sure if the 
problem is in smbd, nscd, or
nss_ldap.

In any case, Windows gives up after 30-60 seconds, and drops the connection.  When the 
workstation tries to reconnect, another smbd process is spawned, and hangs.  This 
continues until the machine
fills up with smbd processes.  I've seen as many as 1000+ processes with only 80 
active users.  Normal should be users (as reported by smbstatus) plus 1 or 2.

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Wolfe, Gordon W
 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:47 PM
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 Samba 2.2.8a in our SLES 8 SP3 systems has a bad bug.  Samba
 keeps running out of control and eating up CPU, meanwhile,
 customers access to the samba shares dies.  When it happens,
 there appears to be wy too many samba processes spawned,
 yet only one of them is going bezerk according to top.
 I've had level 3 samba logging turned on, but I'm not
 capturing anything that I can identify as the cause.  I see
 some oplock messages, but those come in during good  bad
 times.  The other thing I notice is there is typically a file
 or directory not found error in the log, too, prior to the
 bad behavior, although I don't see how that could be a cause.

 Anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this?

 Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
 God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light. - Alexander Pope

 It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
 Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo.- John Collings Squire

 God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
 'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day.   - Jagdish Mehra

 Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph. D.
 VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

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Re: Monthly forehead bruising: inittab ctrlaltdel

2004-04-27 Thread Nick Laflamme
Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote:
On the original system, was there a line in inittab similar to the following?
# The default runlevel is defined here
id:3:initdefault:
Yes, that was there. I still ended up in runlevel unknown.
With no default runlevel, I'm surprised anything was working.
In retrospect, it's not clear what was or wasn't working on that or the
other systems on which I probably made the same mistake. The other
systems seem able to reach run level 3. Then again, this was the system
where I learned how to put fixes on. Maybe I loaded a bad fix, or maybe
I applied a patch badly without realizing it.
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Re: Samba process runaway

2004-04-27 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
We're not using LDAP, we're using security=server to a Windows 2000 server providing 
NTLM services...  but what you describe sounds close, very close.  We keep the virtual 
host capped at 64 meg ram and 128 meg swap, as it improves performance... I think this 
keeps us from having thousands of processes, but we definitely get upwards of 50+ 
extra ones.  So what's the cure for this, folks?  Local smb.passwd authentication?  
Our SuSE SLES 7 hosts running Samba samba-2.2.0a-56 don't have this problem.  Only the 
newer SLES 8 (service pack 3).

Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light. - Alexander Pope

It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo.- John Collings Squire

God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day.   - Jagdish Mehra

Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph. D.
VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

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 From: Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
 Reply To: Linux on 390 Port
 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:23 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Samba process runaway
 
 We're running 2.2.8a on several servers and I've never seen this.
 
 What we HAVE seen is that if the server loses contact with the LDAP server that 
 contains the user/UID mappings, often the smbd processes hang.  I'm not sure if the 
 problem is in smbd, nscd, or
 nss_ldap.
 
 In any case, Windows gives up after 30-60 seconds, and drops the connection.  When 
 the workstation tries to reconnect, another smbd process is spawned, and hangs.  
 This continues until the machine
 fills up with smbd processes.  I've seen as many as 1000+ processes with only 80 
 active users.  Normal should be users (as reported by smbstatus) plus 1 or 2.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  Wolfe, Gordon W
  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:47 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [LINUX-390] Samba process runaway
 
 
  Samba 2.2.8a in our SLES 8 SP3 systems has a bad bug.  Samba
  keeps running out of control and eating up CPU, meanwhile,
  customers access to the samba shares dies.  When it happens,
  there appears to be wy too many samba processes spawned,
  yet only one of them is going bezerk according to top.
  I've had level 3 samba logging turned on, but I'm not
  capturing anything that I can identify as the cause.  I see
  some oplock messages, but those come in during good  bad
  times.  The other thing I notice is there is typically a file
  or directory not found error in the log, too, prior to the
  bad behavior, although I don't see how that could be a cause.
 
  Anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this?
 
  Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
  God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light. - Alexander Pope
 
  It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
  Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo.- John Collings Squire
 
  God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
  'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day.   - Jagdish Mehra
 
  Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph. D.
  VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company
 
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Re: Samba process runaway

2004-04-27 Thread Daniel Jarboe
 out of control and eating up CPU, meanwhile, customers access to the
samba
 shares dies.  When it happens, there appears to be wy too many
samba
 processes spawned, yet only one of them is going bezerk according to
 top.

The parent smbd forks one smbd for each connection.  So each client
(including WINS servers in the domain) should get a smbd.  Are there
more smbd's than that?  smbstatus will show you how many connected users
there are at any time, assuming your connections.tdb file is ok.

Everyone's access dies, or just the one that belongs to the looping
smbd?

You might want to attach strace or ltrace or gdb to the pid that's using
all your CPU to get a handle on where it's stuck.

 I've had level 3 samba logging turned on, but I'm not capturing
 anything that I can identify as the cause.  I see some oplock
messages,
 but those come in during good  bad times.  The other thing I notice
is
 there is typically a file or directory not found error in the log,
too,
 prior to the bad behavior, although I don't see how that could be a
cause.

Which file not found?  Is this same message present in good times and
bad, or only in bad?

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Re: Samba process runaway

2004-04-27 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Everyone's access dies once memory is full, which doesn't take long in 
64mRam/128mSwap.  The samba process running away is owned by root, while the users 
samba processes have just quietly stopped working but still exist.  The samba 
processes are outnumbering users in the extreme.  ~13 active users this morning and 67 
samba processes were running.  Only two people had locked files.  The extra samba 
processes are all owned by root.  I haven't done the strace because of our 
charging/billing structure.

The file not found error appears every once in a while under normal conditions, but 
there are several in a row before the madness begins.

We had experimented with a daily recycle of samba via cron in hopes of introducing 
stability, but this did not help.  There is no pattern for when this is occuring time 
wise, so we never know when it will hit.  It can go weeks without a problem, then 1 - 
3 hits in two days.  Frustrating, to say the least.

Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light. - Alexander Pope

It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo.- John Collings Squire

God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day.   - Jagdish Mehra

Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph. D.
VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

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 Reply To: Linux on 390 Port
 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:09 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Samba process runaway
 
  out of control and eating up CPU, meanwhile, customers access to the
 samba
  shares dies.  When it happens, there appears to be wy too many
 samba
  processes spawned, yet only one of them is going bezerk according to
  top.
 
 The parent smbd forks one smbd for each connection.  So each client
 (including WINS servers in the domain) should get a smbd.  Are there
 more smbd's than that?  smbstatus will show you how many connected users
 there are at any time, assuming your connections.tdb file is ok.
 
 Everyone's access dies, or just the one that belongs to the looping
 smbd?
 
 You might want to attach strace or ltrace or gdb to the pid that's using
 all your CPU to get a handle on where it's stuck.
 
  I've had level 3 samba logging turned on, but I'm not capturing
  anything that I can identify as the cause.  I see some oplock
 messages,
  but those come in during good  bad times.  The other thing I notice
 is
  there is typically a file or directory not found error in the log,
 too,
  prior to the bad behavior, although I don't see how that could be a
 cause.
 
 Which file not found?  Is this same message present in good times and
 bad, or only in bad?
 
 ~ Daniel
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Samba process runaway

2004-04-27 Thread Ferguson, Neale
Rather than use strace can you look at /proc/pid/status and check the
registers/psw and then check it against /proc/pid/maps to find out where
in the app it is. Then you can get the offset within the library
(presumably) and match that against an nm of that library to find the
routine it is in. Unfortunately, they'll probably be in wait or something
equally as useless but you may strike it lucky.

-Original Message-
Everyone's access dies once memory is full, which doesn't take long in
64mRam/128mSwap.  The samba process running away is owned by root, while the
users samba processes have just quietly stopped working but still exist.
The samba processes are outnumbering users in the extreme.  ~13 active users
this morning and 67 samba processes were running.  Only two people had
locked files.  The extra samba processes are all owned by root.  I haven't
done the strace because of our charging/billing structure.

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acf2/vm

2004-04-27 Thread Joseph Beiter
Has anyone on the list recent experience with using acf2/vm to secure vm?

Best Regards,  Joe

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term zLinux copyrighted by whom?

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Sibley
The official Big Blue legal position on the term
zLinux is that it is copyrighted by another
company and one should use the terms Linux for
zSeries or Linux for s/390.

Anyone know who the other company is?

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Re: term zLinux copyrighted by whom?

2004-04-27 Thread Post, Mark K
Turbolinux


Mark Post

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The official Big Blue legal position on the term
zLinux is that it is copyrighted by another
company and one should use the terms Linux for
zSeries or Linux for s/390.

Anyone know who the other company is?

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RES: acf2/vm

2004-04-27 Thread Carlos A. Bodra
I installed and give maint on 2 different VM/VSE sites till 0ne year ago.
One use VM (for access control) and CICS (for transaction security)
Other only for Multi-session (TPX) access under VM 


Carlos Alberto Bodra
VM/VSE Consultant
Sao Paulo - Brazil 
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Assunto: acf2/vm

Has anyone on the list recent experience with using acf2/vm to secure vm?

Best Regards,  Joe

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Re: acf2/vm

2004-04-27 Thread Rozonkiewiecz, Mitchell P
Have your local sales team get you the current information for eTrust
CA-ACF2 for z/VM.  They should also be able to get you reference sites
that you can talk with.

There is a new release going beta with a number of new features
including the pswd controls that exist in the z/OS version, PAM support
to authenticate the Linux/390 logons, etc.

 
Thank you,
Mitchell Rozonkiewiecz
Development Manager
Computer Associates Int'l, Inc.
2400 Cabot Drive
Wing 2C
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Has anyone on the list recent experience with using acf2/vm to secure
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