Re: [ot] pronoun for countries
they are not what my teacher called BBC english. I am not an expert in english langauge. but the 3 examples you quoted are also American. I guess the Americans are less concerned about certain grammars than the native English in England. Richard Thompson wrote: If you're looking for confusing, how about take a crap, take that crap. or taking crap. There's not an a, a the, any gender, nor any logical reason why anyone would want to take any of it anywhere, and even if they were so inclined, what form of crap would it be? I'm so confused - and I was born to american english. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.19 ^ ^8:45pm up 6:36, 0 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
i18n-LA (was: pronoun for countries)
m.w.chang wrote: I only knew Latin is an IMPORTANT language in biology and medicine (and I was a Biology student). I believe any further study into the field of western medicine requires a good command of Latin. And be a real good drug makers, you need to learn chinese as well. Latin is one language I read fluently and I have no such memory. There is a Latin dictionary on the Web (actually more than one) and it fails Has anybody ever thought about a latin localisation/distro? The advandages would be evident: - The latin alphabet has only about 22 characters, just uppercase, no numerals. So there would be no mess with fonts, encodings etc. - Input/output devices could be dramatically simplified (keyboards, Postsript controlled stonecutting devices). - As I remember from my school days, latin sentences tend to be very compact. So, together with the 5-bit character code, no zipping would be necessary when transmitting huge texts over the Internet. Of course, there would be some minor disadvantages: - Hardly anybody can speak or read latin, perhaps aside from a few old men in the Vatican and Robert Black Eagle. - Computational algorithms in latin are a bit clumsy and hard to implement, think of MCCCXCXXXVIII + LXXXIX = ??? Klaus CAPPA RUBRA VIII, NUCLEUS II.IV.XVIII ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: List
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:06:41PM -0700, Collins wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:47:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's got to be a highly specific mix. I'm running kernels built with 2.95.3, 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2; a C library built with 3.2; XFree86 built with 3.2 and 2.95.3; and applications built with all of them. I've had ZERO problems. I'm glad to hear that. I have ZERO experience with mix and match, only with distros that are totally based on one compiler version or the other. Your experience is definitely the most common one. As a rule, I wouldn't recommend mixing and matching the way I have because doing so might well trigger obscure compiler or library bugs. So far, I haven't experienced this, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. In theory, though, this type of mix 'n' match should not be an issue in user-space apps because the compiler ordinarily can be relied upon to Do The Right Thing. Kurt -- Cynic, n.: One who looks through rose-colored glasses with a jaundiced eye. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
cp is a hung process?!
Greetings, I'm experiencing a very strange problem, and i'm wondering if anyone has seen it. I just added a terabyte storage array to an existing server, running the XFS version of RH-7.3 with SCSI hardware RAID arrays. I was attempting to copy all of /home to the new array (approximately 150GB) when cp hung about 2/3 of the way through. Everything is a local filesystem, there's no NFS, or networked files anywhere. cp now shows up as in an 'uninteruptable sleep' state, and as a result i can't kill it. Unfortunately, there's some kind of IO blocking going on as a result, so the load on the box is hovering between 3.00 4.00 (this is a quad xeon box, so its not fully incapacited). I've checked messages, dmesg, the RAID controller status, memory, disk usage, and they all come up OK, with not a single error or lack of resources. At this point, i'm completely stumped as to why cp is hung. The bigger problem now, is that since cp is causing an IO block, the box is really unusable, since everything is very slow. And i can't shutdown cleanly, because the cp process won't terminate. The only time i've ever seen behvaior like this before is when i was trying to shutdown a box that had an NFS share that had dropped off the network. Has anyone seen this before?? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:35am up 41 days, 21:49, 3 users, load average: 1.14, 0.70, 0.37 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [ot] pronoun for countries
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't fall prey to the notion that differences in grammar have some moral status -- if they were, Europeans would say that Chinese is a barbarian, undeveloped language (oh, some did, didn't they). American English has had over 300 years of separate development and has developed some differences in grammar and usage (not the same thing), almost as big a difference between Standard English (of which we have three in America) and BBC English. (Take a trip to Kent in England to see what I mean) On Saturday 23 November 2002 6:56 am, m.w.chang wrote: they are not what my teacher called BBC english. I am not an expert in english langauge. but the 3 examples you quoted are also American. I guess the Americans are less concerned about certain grammars than the native English in England. Richard Thompson wrote: If you're looking for confusing, how about take a crap, take that crap. or taking crap. There's not an a, a the, any gender, nor any logical reason why anyone would want to take any of it anywhere, and even if they were so inclined, what form of crap would it be? I'm so confused - and I was born to american english. - -- Robert Black Eagle One gets wise only after being stupid. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE938IwtjSYKkYJrmcRAuBfAJ49j+Tx59KOmq3GUYGvtP2BIp5yZACgijyM GhKnMqqsYN1PW5t8OrA7Awo= =YCYh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cp is a hung process?!
I assume you asked on the XFS mailing list? I vaguely remember discussions about things hanging sometimes. It was over my head. Greetings, I'm experiencing a very strange problem, and i'm wondering if anyone has seen it. I just added a terabyte storage array to an existing server, running the XFS version of RH-7.3 with SCSI hardware RAID arrays. I was shutdown a box that had an NFS share that had dropped off the network. Has anyone seen this before?? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
kernel compiling
I need some input on my first attempt at compiling a new kernel. I am running Caldera's 2.4.2 kernel underlying desktop 3.1. i want to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.19, to get built in USB support so that I can synch my Palm m505, as well as to get the added support of other improvements. Here's what i have tried and which did not work, yet. I downloaded the kernel archive from kernel.org to my $HOME/down/kernel_2.4.19 folder. There, I unpacked it and then ran two patches in that folder, to enable Win4Lin to run on the kernel. After that I ran 'make menuconfig' which seemed to work without any reported errors. When I run 'make dep' though, I get several errors. In all this, and trying it (compiling) a couple times, and getting to the 'make modules' step, the guidelines I was using said Now, su to root, and I realized that I had compiled everything from make dep forward as root, and it worked just fine, but i realize that likely will cause problems running under that kernel as just a user, so when I go back and compile it as user , it fails with various errors. Should I be compiling and doing all this in a different folder, i.e., a branch off of /usr/src/ such as /usr/src/linux_2.4.19? Would that make a difference? Thanks for any help with this, Scott p.s. my system is a pentium II 266 mhz clone ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel compiling
On 11/23/02 11:24, Bonez wrote: I need some input on my first attempt at compiling a new kernel. I am running Caldera's 2.4.2 kernel underlying desktop 3.1. i want to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.19, to get built in USB support so that I can synch my Palm m505, as well as to get the added support of other improvements. Here's what i have tried and which did not work, yet. I downloaded the kernel archive from kernel.org to my $HOME/down/kernel_2.4.19 folder. There, I unpacked it and then ran two patches in that folder, to enable Win4Lin to run on the kernel. After that I ran 'make menuconfig' which seemed to work without any reported errors. When I run 'make dep' though, I get several errors. In all this, and trying it (compiling) a couple times, and getting to the 'make modules' step, the guidelines I was using said Now, su to root, and I realized that I had compiled everything from make dep forward as root, and it worked just fine, but i realize that likely will cause problems running under that kernel as just a user, so when I go back and compile it as user , it fails with various errors. Should I be compiling and doing all this in a different folder, i.e., a branch off of /usr/src/ such as /usr/src/linux_2.4.19? Would that make a difference? /usr/src/linux is the traditional place to put the kernel source. Putting it elsewhere could pose problems. Also, are the patches that you applied meant for the 2.4.19 kernel? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 12:05pm up 42 days, 1:19, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel compiling
Check out the Step By Step website section on kernel building. I need some input on my first attempt at compiling a new kernel. I am running Caldera's 2.4.2 kernel underlying desktop 3.1. i want to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.19, to get built in USB support so that I can synch my Palm m505, as well as to get the added support of other improvements. Here's what i have tried and which did not work, yet. I downloaded the kernel archive from kernel.org to my $HOME/down/kernel_2.4.19 folder. There, I unpacked it and then ran two patches in that folder, to enable Win4Lin to run on the kernel. After that I ran 'make menuconfig' which seemed to work without any reported errors. When I run 'make dep' though, I get several errors. In all this, and trying it (compiling) a couple times, and getting to the 'make modules' step, the guidelines I was using said Now, su to root, and I realized that I had compiled everything from make dep forward as root, and it worked just fine, but i realize that likely will cause problems running under that kernel as just a user, so when I go back and compile it as user , it fails with various errors. Should I be compiling and doing all this in a different folder, i.e., a branch off of /usr/src/ such as /usr/src/linux_2.4.19? Would that make a difference? Thanks for any help with this, Scott p.s. my system is a pentium II 266 mhz clone -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel compiling
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:07:01PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: /usr/src/linux is the traditional place to put the kernel source. Putting it elsewhere could pose problems. Also, are the patches that you applied meant for the 2.4.19 kernel? Mm, /usr/src/linux does not have to be used. What problems could it pose? Kurt -- An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of purge. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:48:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 12:15:00PM +, Anita Lewis wrote: Thanks for the info, Lonnie. That helped a lot. Now I've decided to skip the dvd writing. I really only wanted to read dvd and write to cd; so I'm looking at a Plextor Combo that does that. It says that DMA must be enabled Are you looking at the PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A? I'm thinking that for $200 (probably cheaper on the street), it's a great bargain. The 40x CD-ROM read speed is kind of slow, but that seemed like a good price. [...] Regards, Kurt Yes, that is the one. I ordered it today for $160. My cdrom in one computer is getting kind of flakey; so I thought I might as well go ahead and buy it. -- Anita GnuPG key: 1024D/9EDAC910 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT]Re: i18n-LA (was: pronoun for countries)
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:26:58PM -0500, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Has anybody ever thought about a latin localisation/distro? Well, no, but it clearly has certain advantages. The advandages would be evident: - The latin alphabet has only about 22 characters, just uppercase, no numerals. So there would be no mess with fonts, encodings etc. The character set certainly becomes easier to work with, I'll grant you that. - Input/output devices could be dramatically simplified (keyboards, Postsript controlled stonecutting devices). I'd have to upgrade my printer to support papyrus and scrolls, though. I wonder how much the Postcript IV option would cost? - As I remember from my school days, latin sentences tend to be very compact. So, together with the 5-bit character code, no zipping would be necessary when transmitting huge texts over the Internet. Moreover, strictly numeric documents would compress quite nicely. Lots of repeated M, C, V, X, and I characters, dontcha know. Of course, there would be some minor disadvantages: - Hardly anybody can speak or read latin, perhaps aside from a few old men in the Vatican and Robert Black Eagle. - Computational algorithms in latin are a bit clumsy and hard to implement, think of MCCCXCXXXVIII + LXXXIX = ??? There's a more fundamental problem: lacking 0 (zero), C programs couldn't terminate properly and all of those calcuations that resolve to 0 (zero) would have to be discarded. On the other hand, if you've got one of the original Pentium chips, perhaps the imprecision wouldn't be a problem. ;-) Kurt -- BORGES SUMUS. RESISTERE INUTILE EST. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
pcmcia -errors
I must be forgetting how to compile a kernel or something. On a slack 8.1
system(2.4.18) after compiling the kernel during modules_install (depmod -a)
I get:
-- find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{}
pcmcia
if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.18; fi
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/ibmtr_cs.o.gz
depmod: init_trdev
depmod: tr_type_trans
depmod: register_trdev
depmod: unregister_trdev
make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
bash-2.05a#
I did not select any pcmcia during configuration yet I keep getting this
stuff. I must be overlooking something, just am no longer sure what. Any have
any idias? sure would like to resolve this.
TIA
Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
Westbank, B. C.
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Alternate EtherExpressPro/100 Driver
Hi, list, I was just configuring the 2.4.20-pre3 kernel and noticed that there's a new driver for the Intel EtherExpressPro/100 chipsets. It is an alternative driver, written by Intel and denominated e100, to Becker's original eepro100 driver. Has anyone here used it and run into any brick walls? Thanks, Kurt -- Speak softly and carry a +6 two-handed sword. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel compiling
On 11/23/02 13:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:07:01PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: /usr/src/linux is the traditional place to put the kernel source. Putting it elsewhere could pose problems. Also, are the patches that you applied meant for the 2.4.19 kernel? Mm, /usr/src/linux does not have to be used. What problems could it pose? Usually, there are traditional symlinks in /usr/include that point to various chunks of the kernel headers in /usr/src/linux/... -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:20pm up 42 days, 5:34, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
On 11/23/02 13:56, Anita Lewis wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:48:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 12:15:00PM +, Anita Lewis wrote: Thanks for the info, Lonnie. That helped a lot. Now I've decided to skip the dvd writing. I really only wanted to read dvd and write to cd; so I'm looking at a Plextor Combo that does that. It says that DMA must be enabled Are you looking at the PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A? I'm thinking that for $200 (probably cheaper on the street), it's a great bargain. The 40x CD-ROM read speed is kind of slow, but that seemed like a good price. [...] Regards, Kurt Yes, that is the one. I ordered it today for $160. My cdrom in one computer is getting kind of flakey; so I thought I might as well go ahead and buy it. Mind if i ask where you ordered it for that price? I'd love to get one if its only US$160. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:25pm up 42 days, 5:39, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pcmcia -errors
On 11/23/02 14:52, Ted Ozolins wrote:
I must be forgetting how to compile a kernel or something. On a slack 8.1
system(2.4.18) after compiling the kernel during modules_install (depmod -a)
I get:
-- find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{}
pcmcia
if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.18; fi
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/ibmtr_cs.o.gz
depmod: init_trdev
depmod: tr_type_trans
depmod: register_trdev
depmod: unregister_trdev
make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
bash-2.05a#
I did not select any pcmcia during configuration yet I keep getting this
stuff. I must be overlooking something, just am no longer sure what. Any have
any idias? sure would like to resolve this.
What version of modutils are you using? In alot of cases there will be
a /lib/modules/pcmcia sitting around. You might want to delete/move it
elsewhere if you're not using it.
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Re: Alternate EtherExpressPro/100 Driver
Its not really new, its been around for over a year, but i think its only been recently merged into the kernel tree. I've used it a few times and didn't have any problems. The eepro100 has always worked well for me, but i've seen some oddball cases where it started spewing errors for no apparent reason, and got it resolved by using e100. On 11/23/02 16:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, I was just configuring the 2.4.20-pre3 kernel and noticed that there's a new driver for the Intel EtherExpressPro/100 chipsets. It is an alternative driver, written by Intel and denominated e100, to Becker's original eepro100 driver. Has anyone here used it and run into any brick walls? Thanks, Kurt -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:25pm up 42 days, 5:39, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
NFS Woes
Hello, I have two of my boxen on my home net using RH 8, with all the current updates. Each has nfs, nfslockd, network, xinetd running. On the first box I can mount my remote server (192.168.1.6, SuSE 7.2) without a hitch. I is using a Realtek NIC 10/100 card on an RJ45 plug, the second box always RPC time out. It uses a Realtek NIC 10/100 on a BNC coxial uplinked to a RJ45 switch box. Now, I can ping everywhere and everyone with either box. I can even ping the server (192.168.1.6) from the second, but it will not mount the exported directory on the server, while the first box will. I can mount the server from other distros on this same box (second box), but not if I use RH8. The appropriate line from /etc/fstab reads: 192.168.1.6:/public/lnx_fs nfsdefaults 0 0 (second box) (192.168.1.6:/public/lnx_fs nfsdefaults 0 0 ( first box also)) It will not mount though, Please point me in the right direction. I am a novice user and am new to RedHat, as I useother distros before this (SuSE 7.2,8, 8.1; Lycoris. Regards, Keith B. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel compiling
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:25:15 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/23/02 13:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:07:01PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: /usr/src/linux is the traditional place to put the kernel source. Putting it elsewhere could pose problems. Also, are the patches that you applied meant for the 2.4.19 kernel? Mm, /usr/src/linux does not have to be used. What problems could it pose? Usually, there are traditional symlinks in /usr/include that point to various chunks of the kernel headers in /usr/src/linux/... As far as I remember, those symlinks are there because they represent the kernel headers against which glibc, etc., was linked, and you shouldn't change those unless you rebuild everything. Even Linus recommends building your kernel in a private directory. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Redhat 7.3 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cp is a hung process?!
I'm searching the XFS list archives now, but not finding anything. Got any pointers? On 11/23/02 10:20, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I assume you asked on the XFS mailing list? I vaguely remember discussions about things hanging sometimes. It was over my head. Greetings, I'm experiencing a very strange problem, and i'm wondering if anyone has seen it. I just added a terabyte storage array to an existing server, running the XFS version of RH-7.3 with SCSI hardware RAID arrays. I was shutdown a box that had an NFS share that had dropped off the network. Has anyone seen this before?? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:45pm up 42 days, 5:59, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.10, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Alternate EtherExpressPro/100 Driver
Kurt, My laptop, a Compaq Armada M700 has always loaded this driver, e100, since SuSE 7.3 and RH 8 Regards, Keith B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, I was just configuring the 2.4.20-pre3 kernel and noticed that there's a new driver for the Intel EtherExpressPro/100 chipsets. It is an alternative driver, written by Intel and denominated e100, to Becker's original eepro100 driver. Has anyone here used it and run into any brick walls? Thanks, Kurt -- Speak softly and carry a +6 two-handed sword. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:25:51 -0800, Net Llama! wrote: Are you looking at the PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A? I'm thinking that for $200 (probably cheaper on the street), it's a great bargain. The 40x CD-ROM read speed is kind of slow, but that seemed like a good price. Yes, that is the one. I ordered it today for $160. My cdrom in one computer is getting kind of flakey; so I thought I might as well go ahead and buy it. Mind if i ask where you ordered it for that price? I'd love to get one if its only US$160. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/yashar/plexplex2012.html -- Anita GnuPG key: 1024D/9EDAC910 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
Net Llama! wrote: Are you looking at the PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A? I'm thinking that for $200 (probably cheaper on the street), it's a great bargain. The 40x CD-ROM read speed is kind of slow, but that seemed like a good price. [...] Regards, Kurt Yes, that is the one. I ordered it today for $160. My cdrom in one computer is getting kind of flakey; so I thought I might as well go ahead and buy it. Mind if i ask where you ordered it for that price? I'd love to get one if its only US$160. Is this the IDE version? Because Newegg happens to have the 20/10/40/12 for DVD burner for $132. If you already have a DVD drive- they have the 48x24x48 for $118. Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Alternate EtherExpressPro/100 Driver
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 07:54:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt, My laptop, a Compaq Armada M700 has always loaded this driver, e100, since SuSE 7.3 and RH 8 Thanks, Keith. I'm giving it a go now. No problems so far, but I'm only 20 minutes into using it. :-) Kurt -- Laugh at your problems; everybody else does. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Alternate EtherExpressPro/100 Driver
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 04:29:44PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: Its not really new, its been around for over a year, but i think its only been recently merged into the kernel tree. I've used it a few times and didn't have any problems. The eepro100 has always worked well for me, but i've seen some oddball cases where it started spewing errors for no apparent reason, and got it resolved by using e100. On 11/23/02 16:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, I was just configuring the 2.4.20-pre3 kernel and noticed that there's a new driver for the Intel EtherExpressPro/100 chipsets. It is an alternative driver, written by Intel and denominated e100, to Becker's original eepro100 driver. Has anyone here used it and run into any brick walls? Thanks. I didn't realize it had been around for so long. The eepro100 has always Just Worked (c) here, too. It remains to be seen if it does me any good. Presumably, because the driver comes from Intel, it will be better, whatever that means, than Don Becker's. We shall see. It appears to be working right now. Kurt -- Conversation, n.: A vocal competition in which the one who is catching his breath is called the listener. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 09:56:37PM +, Anita Lewis wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:48:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [deletia] Are you looking at the PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A? I'm thinking that for $200 (probably cheaper on the street), it's a great bargain. The 40x CD-ROM read speed is kind of slow, but that seemed like a good price. Yes, that is the one. I ordered it today for $160. My cdrom in one computer is getting kind of flakey; so I thought I might as well go ahead and buy it. Kewlness. I'm in the market, and the Plextors seem to be well-regarded. K ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel compiling
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:25:15 -0800 begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On 11/23/02 13:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:07:01PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: /usr/src/linux is the traditional place to put the kernel source. Putting it elsewhere could pose problems. Also, are the patches that you applied meant for the 2.4.19 kernel? Mm, /usr/src/linux does not have to be used. What problems could it pose? Usually, there are traditional symlinks in /usr/include that point to various chunks of the kernel headers in /usr/src/linux/... This practice was stopped (supposedly) back in the 1.3.xx days. Do _NOT_ symlink /usr/include/foo into the kernel source tree. Whatever kernel headers you used to build glibc are what are supposed to be in /usr/include. If you rebuild glibc, then the kernel source headers you used to build it should be moved into /usr/include until the next time you rebuild glibc. As for where the kernel can be built -- anywhere on the system you want to. Who should build it? Ordinary_user. root will have to move it to /boot, change /etc/lilo.conf (or whatever other boot loader you might use), but that's it. I suspect the patches had errors when applied. Ciao, David A. Bandel - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE94DOw3uVcotqGMQcRAn4RAKDX6TgPq5VLEUTgLwXWWBw/Wmq2tgCgmWgS yVV1B0Nj1QJ7tKw489XEUk4= =j50E -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pcmcia -errors
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:52:10PM -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote:
I must be forgetting how to compile a kernel or something. On a slack 8.1
system(2.4.18) after compiling the kernel during modules_install (depmod -a)
I get:
-- find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{}
pcmcia
if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.18; fi
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/ibmtr_cs.o.gz
depmod: init_trdev
depmod: tr_type_trans
depmod: register_trdev
depmod: unregister_trdev
make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
bash-2.05a#
I did not select any pcmcia during configuration yet I keep getting this
stuff. I must be overlooking something, just am no longer sure what. Any have
any idias? sure would like to resolve this.
I started encountering these problems because my modutils package was out of
date, even though it was the one distributed with Slackware. As it turned out,
modutils was from circa 2.4.6. Upgrading to the latest and greatest solved
the problem.
Kurt
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Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
feh. i thought we were still talking about DVD burners. got my hopes up that they were alot cheaper. oh well. On 11/23/02 16:57, Anita Lewis wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:25:51 -0800, Net Llama! wrote: Are you looking at the PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A? I'm thinking that for $200 (probably cheaper on the street), it's a great bargain. The 40x CD-ROM read speed is kind of slow, but that seemed like a good price. Yes, that is the one. I ordered it today for $160. My cdrom in one computer is getting kind of flakey; so I thought I might as well go ahead and buy it. Mind if i ask where you ordered it for that price? I'd love to get one if its only US$160. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/yashar/plexplex2012.html -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:20pm up 42 days, 7:34, 4 users, load average: 0.22, 0.08, 0.02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DVD/CD RW and Linux
BTW, i just found this same drive for $126.85 (with shipping) on pricewatch.com. On 11/23/02 18:22, Net Llama! wrote: feh. i thought we were still talking about DVD burners. got my hopes up that they were alot cheaper. oh well. On 11/23/02 16:57, Anita Lewis wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:25:51 -0800, Net Llama! wrote: Are you looking at the PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A? I'm thinking that for $200 (probably cheaper on the street), it's a great bargain. The 40x CD-ROM read speed is kind of slow, but that seemed like a good price. Yes, that is the one. I ordered it today for $160. My cdrom in one computer is getting kind of flakey; so I thought I might as well go ahead and buy it. Mind if i ask where you ordered it for that price? I'd love to get one if its only US$160. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/yashar/plexplex2012.html -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:30pm up 42 days, 7:44, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Simple Post Script Question:Restore Default user space
I am trying to edit a postscript file produced by a program. I want to add footers. This should be easy but the program translates the user space, and it is not always the same from page to page. Is there an easy command to restore user space to the default, that is, make it so that 0 0 corresponds to the bottom left hand of the page? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Tape on Raid Controller
I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cp is a hung process?!
That long ago! Time flies. That's all I can remember. I followed the XFS mailing list before I moved and haven't had time to get back to it but the issues there may have been fixed. Oh, well, at the least you can post to the list and see if anyone has any ideas. Let us know what you find out - I'm interested since I have my RH 7.3 box with XFS and am working on getting it online. Nevermind, i found the thread, but its quite old (almost a year ago): http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10085486791r=1w=4 On 11/23/02 16:45, Net Llama! wrote: I'm searching the XFS list archives now, but not finding anything. Got any pointers? On 11/23/02 10:20, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I assume you asked on the XFS mailing list? I vaguely remember discussions about things hanging sometimes. It was over my head. Greetings, I'm experiencing a very strange problem, and i'm wondering if anyone has seen it. I just added a terabyte storage array to an existing server, running the XFS version of RH-7.3 with SCSI hardware RAID arrays. I was shutdown a box that had an NFS share that had dropped off the network. Has anyone seen this before?? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
What's the diff?
Could someone tell me the difference between dvd and dvd+? It would seem to be two competing media protocols... but which one is the one I need? :') I'm almost ready to buy myself a new dvd writer so I can dupe some pre-recorded dvd's and playstation 2 games... Any pointers would be most welcomed... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 10:46pm up 1 day, 19 min, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.29, 0.33 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's the diff?
Jerry McBride wrote: Could someone tell me the difference between dvd and dvd+? It would seem to be two competing media protocols... but which one is the one I need? :') I'm almost ready to buy myself a new dvd writer so I can dupe some pre-recorded dvd's and playstation 2 games... Any pointers would be most welcomed... Maybe you should look at the two Sony drives- DRU500A (internal) and the DRX500UL (USB 2.0) that do DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, and CDRW. Unfortunately, Newegg doesn't seem to have any in stock and I don't feel like looking elsewhere- but their prices are: DRU500A $365, DRX500UL $409. Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NFS vs samba
Is it better to use samba to share files for LAN? -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.19 ^ ^11:45am up 21:36, 1 user, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel compiling
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:24:28PM -0700, Bonez wrote: I need some input on my first attempt at compiling a new kernel. I am running Caldera's 2.4.2 kernel underlying desktop 3.1. i want to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.19, to get built in USB support so that I can synch my Palm m505, as well as to get the added support of other improvements. Here's what i have tried and which did not work, yet. I downloaded the kernel archive from kernel.org to my $HOME/down/kernel_2.4.19 folder. There, I unpacked it and then ran two patches in that folder, to enable Win4Lin to run on the kernel. After that I ran 'make menuconfig' which seemed to work without any reported errors. When I run 'make dep' though, I get several errors. Well, then it doesn't surprise me that things go south. What are the errors you get in after make dep? I'm guessing that your modutils are too old if they are still at 2.4.2. Should I be compiling and doing all this in a different folder, i.e., a branch off of /usr/src/ such as /usr/src/linux_2.4.19? Would that make a difference? You can compile just fine in your home *directory* (a folder is is something in which you put paper). You only need to be root to install the new kernel image, modules, and so forth. However, now that you have build the kernel as root in your home directory, you need to run make mrproper *as root* to clear everything out, then go back and start from scratch. Kurt -- Minnie Mouse is a slow maze learner. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pcmcia -errors
On Saturday 23 November 2002 16:28, Net Llama! wrote: - What version of modutils are you using? In alot of cases there will be - a /lib/modules/pcmcia sitting around. You might want to delete/move it - elsewhere if you're not using it. - I've downloaded 2.4.19 from kernel.org and used the same .config that resulted in the pcmcia errors and is no longer the case. I'm not new to kernel compiling Usually if I see errors, I take the extra time to go through .config to see if I'd inadvertently check something that I shouldn't have. In this case everything was as I usually configure for a kernel build. Also untill I decided to dwnld a new kernel, I couldn't get my sound card working. (soundblaster 16pci (es1371)) I am now convinced that there was a glitch with the stock Slackware 2.4.18 kernel. Whether this happened during the download of the iso or during the system install I'm not sure. The last time I had probs with compiling a kernel was due to outdated modutils so that was one of the first thing I looked at. Now I have sound working nicely and do not see any pcmcia errors when running depmod -a Learning my way arround Slackware has been one eye-opening task. It would have been much easier if Slack would have ussed sysv scripts instead of BSD. I suppose that is what makes linux so adictive, always something new to learn: ) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1 sent with Kmail 1.4.1 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NFS vs samba
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:09:48 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it better to use samba to share files for LAN? Like everything else... If your lan is totally Linux, then NFS will serve you very well. You'll find it fast, easy to setup and admin. Although there's windows utilities that will integrate them into an NFS network, the best ones are commercial apps and can be very expensive. Samba is mostly useful if you happen to provide lan services to windows users. Samba integrates seamlessly into a mix of linux and windows nearly perfectly. The only sore point I have with samba is that there is no perfect common ground between file systems in regards to file attributes and user ownership. Depending how you have your smb.conf setup... copying a file across samba to a linux client and it'll end up with the execute attribute turned on... If you are just getting into setting up your first linux lan, then NFS is perfect. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 11:30pm up 1 day, 1:03, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.16, 0.16 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NFS vs samba
Jerry, what do we need to look out for as far as security goes for NFS systems? I was of the understanding NFS can have security problems. On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:09:48 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it better to use samba to share files for LAN? Like everything else... If your lan is totally Linux, then NFS will serve you very well. You'll find it fast, easy to setup and admin. Although there's windows utilities that will integrate them into an NFS network, the best ones are commercial apps and can be very expensive. Samba is mostly useful if you happen to provide lan services to windows users. Samba integrates seamlessly into a mix of linux and windows nearly perfectly. The only sore point I have with samba is that there is no perfect common ground between file systems in regards to file attributes and user ownership. Depending how you have your smb.conf setup... copying a file across samba to a linux client and it'll end up with the execute attribute turned on... If you are just getting into setting up your first linux lan, then NFS is perfect. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. Thanks. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:20pm up 42 days, 10:34, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's the diff?
On 11/23/02 19:49, Bob Raymond wrote: Jerry McBride wrote: Could someone tell me the difference between dvd and dvd+? It would seem to be two competing media protocols... but which one is the one I need? :') I'm almost ready to buy myself a new dvd writer so I can dupe some pre-recorded dvd's and playstation 2 games... Any pointers would be most welcomed... They're two competing formats. There was a thread on Slashdot about this perhaps a month ago? Right now, neither is dominant, so either get a drive that supports both (so when one wins out, you're not stuck with worthless hardware, AKA Betamax), or hold off for another year until one of them wins. Maybe you should look at the two Sony drives- DRU500A (internal) and the DRX500UL (USB 2.0) that do DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, and CDRW. Unfortunately, Newegg doesn't seem to have any in stock and I don't feel like looking elsewhere- but their prices are: DRU500A $365, DRX500UL $409. pricewatch appears to have far better pricing than newegg. Any particular reason why you favor them? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:25pm up 42 days, 10:39, 3 users, load average: 0.12, 0.08, 0.02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cp is a hung process?!
I don't know that i'll make any more progress with this. According to the info on the XFS list, this bug was resolved in a release that preceeded the kernel i'm running (so i shouldn't have been vulnerable). On top of that, once i did get the server rebooted remotely (oddly, it took *5* hours to finish rebooting), everything that did get copied over was still in tact, so i only needed to copy an additional 8GB. That completed without incident, and the server is back up running smoothly as i write this. On 11/23/02 19:17, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: That long ago! Time flies. That's all I can remember. I followed the XFS mailing list before I moved and haven't had time to get back to it but the issues there may have been fixed. Oh, well, at the least you can post to the list and see if anyone has any ideas. Let us know what you find out - I'm interested since I have my RH 7.3 box with XFS and am working on getting it online. Nevermind, i found the thread, but its quite old (almost a year ago): http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10085486791r=1w=4 On 11/23/02 16:45, Net Llama! wrote: I'm searching the XFS list archives now, but not finding anything. Got any pointers? On 11/23/02 10:20, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I assume you asked on the XFS mailing list? I vaguely remember discussions about things hanging sometimes. It was over my head. Greetings, I'm experiencing a very strange problem, and i'm wondering if anyone has seen it. I just added a terabyte storage array to an existing server, running the XFS version of RH-7.3 with SCSI hardware RAID arrays. I was shutdown a box that had an NFS share that had dropped off the network. Has anyone seen this before?? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:20pm up 42 days, 10:34, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's the diff?
Net Llama! wrote: On 11/23/02 19:49, Bob Raymond wrote: Maybe you should look at the two Sony drives- DRU500A (internal) and the DRX500UL (USB 2.0) that do DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, and CDRW. Unfortunately, Newegg doesn't seem to have any in stock and I don't feel like looking elsewhere- but their prices are: DRU500A $365, DRX500UL $409. pricewatch appears to have far better pricing than newegg. Any particular reason why you favor them? Great service. Like the system I'm building for my pianist now- he ordered the case and hard disk from them last Tues., chose FedEx Saver shipping, and it made it from CA to VA by Thurs. Ever try resellerratings.com on some of the cheaper places? Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's the diff?
On 11/23/02 21:38, Bob Raymond wrote: Great service. Like the system I'm building for my pianist now- he ordered the case and hard disk from them last Tues., chose FedEx Saver shipping, and it made it from CA to VA by Thurs. Ever try resellerratings.com on some of the cheaper places? Nope, didn't know it existed. Although i will say that i've never had any real problems with the pricewatch listed vendors that i have used. All have shipped what i ordered, within the timeframe expected. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:45pm up 42 days, 10:59, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.14, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NFS vs samba
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:13:52 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, what do we need to look out for as far as security goes for NFS systems? I was of the understanding NFS can have security problems. If it's firewalled, the only security concern is internal. If you open the firewall up for access by clients across the network, you open yourself for all kinds of trouble as NFS transactions are totally in the clear. And I got news for you... samba ain't much better. :') NFS falls easy victim to any hacker that can sniff a packet and arrange a spoof attack. I found a wonderfully content rich article covering the fine points of hardening your NFS connections via ssh at Sys Admin Magazine... If I may quote: The main problems with NFS are that it relies on the inherently insecure UDP protocol, transactions are not encrypted, hosts and users cannot be easily authenticated, and its difficulty in firewalling... The complete article covering the fine points of hardening your NFS connections via ssh is at: http://www.samag.com/documents/s=4072/sam0203d/sam0203d.htm -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 12:41am up 1 day, 2:25, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.28, 0.28 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cp is a hung process?!
I'm guessing it took those 5 hours to shutdown. Normally it takes about 5 minutes to bootup. On 11/23/02 21:56, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Aren't computers wonderfull G! Five hours to boot - wow! At least you've got the files copied. I don't know that i'll make any more progress with this. According to the info on the XFS list, this bug was resolved in a release that preceeded the kernel i'm running (so i shouldn't have been vulnerable). On top of that, once i did get the server rebooted remotely (oddly, it took *5* hours to finish rebooting), everything that did get copied over was still in tact, so i only needed to copy an additional 8GB. That completed without incident, and the server is back up running smoothly as i write this. On 11/23/02 19:17, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: That long ago! Time flies. That's all I can remember. I followed the XFS mailing list before I moved and haven't had time to get back to it but the issues there may have been fixed. Oh, well, at the least you can post to the list and see if anyone has any ideas. Let us know what you find out - I'm interested since I have my RH 7.3 box with XFS and am working on getting it online. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 10:00pm up 42 days, 11:14, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.01, 0.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
Lonni, I never had the desire to look into this raid with tape idea... But I do know that it works on some controllers just fine. At work we've still got a couple of old... x brand servers running xenix, each with one ami raid controller, two hard drives and one tape attached. I've had them open only as far as replacing floppy drives and noted the single scsi controller. Also just trash picked one for parting out... Same setup. It apparently works. On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:23:02 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. Thanks. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:20pm up 42 days, 10:34, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 1:00am up 1 day, 2:44, 3 users, load average: 0.52, 0.30, 0.24 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
It took a CD drive without complaining?? I guess the tape drive might work then, but i'd just think that the RAID card would get snarfy about the really really slow IO. On 11/23/02 21:57, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I really don't like to do it and am trying to come up with a workaround now. I would have thought the 3210S wouldn't care - it will handle CD drives attached to it. I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 10:10pm up 42 days, 11:24, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.04, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tape on Raid Controller
Yes, I had a SCSI CD/DVD on it for a while and Adaptec has an option to allow booting off them. I had it on channel B while the RAID drives were on channel A. It took a CD drive without complaining?? I guess the tape drive might work then, but i'd just think that the RAID card would get snarfy about the really really slow IO. On 11/23/02 21:57, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I really don't like to do it and am trying to come up with a workaround now. I would have thought the 3210S wouldn't care - it will handle CD drives attached to it. I'd be quite surprised if this worked at all. Tape drives RAID controllers aren't meant to work together. On 11/23/02 19:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm in a situation where I need to put a 15 tape library on one of the channels of my Adaptec 3210s RAID controller. I have a six drive array on channel A while channel B is unused. I have no more slots to put another SCSI card in the system and I can't remove any cards I have. I am assuming that this will not affect the performance of the RAID array much if at all. Am I correct in this. Has anyone done this. I know I need to add another card but I can't do it on this system. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
