Re: linus to darl: huh?

2003-09-12 Thread Ted Ozolins
Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth dep:

http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,84782,00.html?nas=AM-84782


I want some of what Darl's been taking.

Kurt
Good grief Kurt, don't touch that stuff, I hear it kills brain cells.G

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Re: SCO speaks the truth

2003-09-12 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:34:27 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This particular horse appears to be unique - an a**hole at both ends.
 

As the English say:

When has a horse got two a**holes? 

When there's one at the back and one on its back.

I was amused at the line:

 Clearly, the free model just about killed our company, and I would argue that it's 
going to kill a lot of other software companies if the GPL [General Public License] is 
able to gain a foothold and run rampant throughout the industry.

and have translated it as best I can, not understanding American business-speak:

Clearly, we made decisions which have ruined our company, so we've got to sue to try 
and recover share price. Otherwise a clearly better business model, Linux, which is 
gaining ground daily, will wipe out most current proprietry software companies.

Close enough?

Terence

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Re: Server question

2003-09-12 Thread Tom Condon
On Thursday 11 September 2003 17:56, Kurt Wall carved in 
granite:
  My current plans include only the following services on
  this server: Apache
  SSH
  iptables
  Shorewall
 
  Anyone care to suggest what I've left out?

 SSL? Mail? Backup? Log analysis tools (ModLogAn,
 Webalizer)?

 Kurt

SSL is in (I considered it, incorrectly, part of Apache).
No mail on this server.
Backup, ah, yes.  Better do that.  It has a CD burner, and the 
temptation is to use CD-RW for the sites.  The size is small 
enough.  Thanks.
Log tools, ditto the thanks.

Someone also mentioned DB.  I'll check with the creator of the 
other site that it will host.  None of the sites currently on 
it requre DB support.

Thanks again, all.  As a novice at servers I *knew* I'd left 
several things out.


In Harmony's Way and In A Chord,

Tom  ;-})

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Re: SCO speaks the truth

2003-09-12 Thread burns
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 02:41, Terence McCarthy wrote:

 Clearly, we made decisions which have ruined our company, so we've got to sue to 
 try and recover share price. Otherwise a clearly better business model, Linux, which 
 is gaining ground daily, will wipe out most current proprietry software companies.
 
 Close enough?

My take is Clearly, we were almost taken over by a Linux company, but
we managed to wrestle them into submission during the merger. Now we are
going to make sure these Linux assholes pay dearly by striking back.
-- 
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Re: linus to darl: huh?

2003-09-12 Thread dep
quoth Kurt Wall:

| I want some of what Darl's been taking.

no you don't.
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dep

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a sufficiently large number, you've got something. -- Douglas Adams
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ADMIN: power restored

2003-09-12 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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distribution is now a lot more even. Sorry for the service interruption
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Updated Step

2003-09-12 Thread Nobody
Douglas Hunley has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/razor.html to incorporate the 
following:
Updated to include new prereqs for latest version
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Re: no stereo from line-in

2003-09-12 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Tim Wunder wrote:

 On 9/10/2003 5:34 PM, someone claiming to be Jorge Almeida wrote:
 
  On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Tim Wunder wrote:
  
  
  Just the obvious question: Are you connecting to the sound card
  with a stereo plug?
  
  A stereo plug will have two obvious contact areas on it (they'll
  look like black stripes) for the left and right channels. Just
  becasue you have a Y-cable that connect 2 wires into 1 doesn't mean
   the output from the 1 connector will be stereo.
  
  
  Hmmm... I'm not using any Y cable. The cable connects the line-out of
  a walkman cd player to the line-in of the sound card.
 
 OK, do the connectors on both ends of THAT cable have two contact 
 points?  The *important* thing is that the soundcard needs to get a left 
 and right channel.
 
Yes. The connectors are of the same kind that comes with the headphones. I checked the 
cable with a technician and it was OK. Nevertheless, I'm told that when the cable is 
plugged into the line-in jack and the other end of the cable is unplugged, I should 
ear noise when touching the connectors of the latter end with a metal probe. I don't 
ear that noise (out of the columns nor the headphones).
Actually, the thing seems to work now with another O$, but not with linux (it wasn't 
so before, can't figure what changed).
  ... I know I can
  get stereo out of the cable when I connect the headphones to it.
 
 You connect headphones to the same cable? Don't your headphones connect 
 to the walkman directly and not to some adapter cable?
 
I meant I connected the headphones to the walkman (or to the TV) with the said cable 
in the middle, for testing purposes (the cable is actually a male-female extension 
connected with a male-male one; I checked both pieces).
  ... I
  also can get stereo out of the card (into the headphones, or into the
  columns+subwoofer, from another output jack) when playing a .wav file
  out of the HD. What I can't get is stereo from the line-in, nor any
  sound at all from the (internal) cdrom drives (a CDRW and a DVD
  drive); I don't know whether these two issues are related. Thanks for
  any help.
 
 A cable from the CD drives to the sound card is required to get sound 
 from the CD drives. Also you mixer settings must have that line enabled.
I have analog (3-pins) cables from the (internal) analog connector of the drive to the 
corresponding internal connector in the card. I use Kmix for mixing, and also tryed 
smixer.

I'm beginning to think that this is a driver problem. I would try alsa if I knew 
whether it's supposed to work with Audigy2 (I couldn't get any clear information about 
this, and uninstalling alsa in case it doesn't work is a real pain, not to mention the 
time KDE needs to compile...).

Thank you for your help,
-- 
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Re: OT Opengroupware

2003-09-12 Thread Jason Joines
Wil McGilvery wrote:
Has anyone tried to use Opengroupware?

Any comments?

Regards,

Wil McGilvery
Manager
Lynch Digital Media Inc
 

416-744-7949
416-716-3964 (cell)
1-866-314-4678
416-744-0406  FAX
www.LynchDigital.com
  I was going to start trying it as soon as the Glow 0.2 client was out 
which was slated for mid-August.  Here's what the folks over at 
news://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.groupware.user had to say 
about it.

Glow 0.2 is still in development; we recently got a patch for
the Contacts backend, we need to integrate this and
build the UI for it.
We also have a patch for accessing OpenGroupware.org
from Glow, but it also needs the Contacts feature
to work fully.
I will be on vacation now (finally!) for two weeks, so this
will push back our release date also but we aim
to integrate all of these features and release 0.2
by end October.
It's worth experimenting with OGo and Glow now to get
a feel for both, but 0.2 will include a lot of exciting
features (the target date has sufferred a bit from feature creep,
but this makes it all the more worth the wait).
  I know it's also be used by some as a drop-in replacement for the 
groupware part of SuSE's OpenExchange Server to avoid the licensing cost 
of the default groupware product.

Jason Joines
Open Source = Open Mind

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Calendaring/Scheduling

2003-09-12 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely :)

What OSS solutions are being used to do sever-based calendaring and
scheduling here?
I'm looking for a solution to come along side a standard SMTP/POP3/IMAP
server and provide the functionality to clients like Outhouse and Evolution,
possibly Korganizer as well if possible...
I know that Outhouse has a ftp/http capability.  Is this what people are
doing?  What else do I need to consider?
I have seen SLOX and that's not what I'm after.  I've heard about OGo but it
is currently too new and too bulky for what I'm after.  Your input is
greatly appreciated, especially those of you who use these technologies for
your livelihood, (that means you too, David :)

Thanks all,
Matt
ps. mark your calendars here, as some of you will notice me actually USING
Outhouse on XP!  Long story but it's a requirement for the moment.  I'm
thinking about checking out Aethera as it runs on Linux and Winhose.  I'm
actually kinda hoping to get whacked by a virus or worm :)

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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-12 Thread Matthew Carpenter
This sounds like you have something in your startup directory which used to
look like an application link (.desktop or .kdelink or something) but now is
associted with KWrite.  Did you happen to change the associations for KWrite
recently (or relatively recently to when this started)?

- Original Message - 
From: Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop


 bof wrote:
  When I load KDE, I am finding that no less than four copies of Kwrite
  are also starting. Nothing I am doing will stop this.



 I think this is KWrite trying to be 'helpful' and preloading itself for
 performance reasons.  IIRC KWrite is used as the built-in textfile
 viewer for KDE, so it gets used a lot.  To make it go away, try this:

 Control Center
 KDE Components
 Service Manager
 Find the box in the lower right where it says 'KWrite Daemon' and
 uncheck the 'use' box.  Then use the 'stop' button to stop the service.

 I'm using SuSE, so YMMV.

 HTH.
 -Aaron

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Re: OT Linux now avaible in stores

2003-09-12 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Funny this should be brought up so soon after my enforced XP journey of
late.  I've been meaning to comment on how the maintainer of the XP box I am
currently running made my user ID part of the administrators group.  He said
it had to be that way to work right...  I thought all the rhetoric about
Windows and running as administrator was just that, rhetoric.
I guess not!

- Original Message - 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: OT Linux now avaible in stores


 Net Llama! wrote:

 On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Joel Hammer wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:42:22AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
 
 
 
 Its fricking mozilla.  Its not like Lindows wrote their own or
anything.
 
 
 Yes, of course it is mozilla, but, it is configured to work.
 For example, no font problems, and plugins work as expected.
 Joel
 
 
 
 That's been the case with mozilla for nearly 2 years now.  Once again,
 Lindows has nothing to do with it, although they appear to be doing a
fine
 job convincing you that they have.
 
 
 

 I'm not sure I totally agree with that, although I do feel Lindows is
 not for me, and running as root is to be avoided. (I can't believe they
 do that)

 Lindows may run the scripts during install that download and install the
 various plugins (flash, realplay, java, whatever) that allow seamless
 access to multimedia. When mozilla is installed on many distros, you
 must do some grunt work to get it all working.

 Libranet has a utility that will download and install several plugins to
 moz, but that's after the install. And I think there are intellectual
 property rights involved with packaging these plugins with a distro.

 I have no experience with Lindows, so take it for a grain of salt.

 -- 
 Ken



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Cygwin X and XInputExtension errors

2003-09-12 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I have been having a devil of a time getting X to work properly between a
Cygwin X server and a SuSE 8.2pro box set up as a X-Terminal Server.  Here
is the message I most recently got (this is using SSH with XForwarding).
When attempting X -ac -query myserver I get the same message with
different display info, and xdm never shows up...
Does anyone know what causes this?  XInputExtension suggests that perhaps
there is some library extension in X4.2.x which the Cygwin X-server doesn't
support, and is heavily required throughout KDE and Yast2, but not in xeyes
(my favorite X tester).  TIA

Xlib:  extension XInputExtension missing on display localhost:11.0.
Failed to get list of devices

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Re: OT Linux now avaible in stores

2003-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
Going back to the original topic a bit, I was in the new Fry's Electronics
in Renton, Washington last weekend, and found that they have the XESS
spreadsheet program in stock for Linux.  For those who aren't familiar with
this (and it's cousin NeXS), it's my favorite spreadsheet for day-to-day
use, bar none.  It's fast, easy to use, stores its data in ascii files, and
inexpensive.  It's also small.  The statically linked RPM I have for NeXS
is 4.2MB, and the executable about 2.5MB which is tiny compared to the
normal office bloatware.

Bill
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certain major manufacturer] (and in doing so have sold their soul to the
devil) will collapse under the sheer weight of the unmastered complexity of
their data processing systems.
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2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-12 Thread Bruce Marshall
Trying to load up the test5 kernel and I have it compiled, etc.  Also 
have been reading David's blurb on 2.6 and think I have all that 
covered.

On boot, I get an error:

Kernel panic:  Attempted to kill init!

Due to the debugging info I can't see what it was working on just prior 
to the complaint, but it was well into the hardware discovery phase.

Anyone have a clue?

Thanks.

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Re: Cygwin X and XInputExtension errors

2003-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
I have been having a devil of a time getting X to work properly between a
Cygwin X server and a SuSE 8.2pro box set up as a X-Terminal Server.  Here
is the message I most recently got (this is using SSH with XForwarding).
When attempting X -ac -query myserver I get the same message with
different display info, and xdm never shows up...
Does anyone know what causes this?  XInputExtension suggests that perhaps
there is some library extension in X4.2.x which the Cygwin X-server doesn't
support, and is heavily required throughout KDE and Yast2, but not in xeyes
(my favorite X tester).  TIA

Xlib:  extension XInputExtension missing on display localhost:11.0.
Failed to get list of devices

You may be having problems with your DISPLAY as localhost:11.0.  This looks
like something running from ssh (high display number), and I've found on
many systems that setting ``X11UseLocalhost no'' in the sshd_config file
cures authentication problems.  Having localhost instead of the proper
hostname in the DISPLAY may well confuse remote systems.

Bill
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Re: Calendaring/Scheduling

2003-09-12 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 19:32, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely :)
 
 What OSS solutions are being used to do sever-based calendaring and
 scheduling here?
 I'm looking for a solution to come along side a standard SMTP/POP3/IMAP
 server and provide the functionality to clients like Outhouse and Evolution,
 possibly Korganizer as well if possible...

At home we use Evolution with Connector as my wife's work used outlook.
Overall it works fine. Except it likes to get two years of calender info
at a time instead of the current month. And my wife seems to hahe a
gazillion calendar entries, so this can take a minute or so. Found no
setting to control this. At $69, Connector is not bad. We will next look
at Korganizer. Still, these are only the clients. I do not know of (have
not looked for) an OpenSource server for all this.

 I know that Outhouse has a ftp/http capability.  Is this what people are
 doing?  What else do I need to consider?
 I have seen SLOX and that's not what I'm after.  I've heard about OGo but it
 is currently too new and too bulky for what I'm after.  Your input is
 greatly appreciated, especially those of you who use these technologies for
 your livelihood, (that means you too, David :)
 
 Thanks all,
 Matt
 ps. mark your calendars here, as some of you will notice me actually USING
 Outhouse on XP!  Long story but it's a requirement for the moment.  I'm
 thinking about checking out Aethera as it runs on Linux and Winhose.  I'm
 actually kinda hoping to get whacked by a virus or worm :)
 
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Re: Server question

2003-09-12 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 21:28, Tom Condon wrote:

 Thanks again, all.  As a novice at servers I *knew* I'd left 
 several things out.

How do you plan on configuring security?
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Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-12 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:07:22 -0400
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Trying to load up the test5 kernel and I have it compiled, etc.  Also 
 have been reading David's blurb on 2.6 and think I have all that 
 covered.
 
 On boot, I get an error:
 
 Kernel panic:  Attempted to kill init!
 
 Due to the debugging info I can't see what it was working on just
 prior to the complaint, but it was well into the hardware discovery
 phase.
 
 Anyone have a clue?
 

Only one guess: did you compile as built-in (not module) support for
your filesystem?  If that's not it, post your .config here so that we
can eyeball it.

Other possibilities: smp support and acpm or framebuffer?  I don't use
any of these, but I hear trouble reports.

Or, no support for your specific chipset?

Also, how did you go about generating your .config?

I've been using 2.6 for months now, and -test5 for several days, with no
problems.

-- 
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Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-12 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 12 September 2003 18:14 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:07:22 -0400

 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Trying to load up the test5 kernel and I have it compiled, etc. 
  Also have been reading David's blurb on 2.6 and think I have all
  that covered.
 

  On boot, I get an error:
 
  Kernel panic:  Attempted to kill init!
 
  Due to the debugging info I can't see what it was working on just
  prior to the complaint, but it was well into the hardware discovery
  phase.
 
  Anyone have a clue?

 Only one guess: did you compile as built-in (not module) support for
 your filesystem?  If that's not it, post your .config here so that we
 can eyeball it.


Good thought but I did build in XFS support and I think this is a 
different kind of error.   (attempted to kill init)

 Other possibilities: smp support and acpm or framebuffer?  I don't use
 any of these, but I hear trouble reports.

Will look at those...   I did have test2 running at one time so maybe 
this isn't too tough to fix.


 Or, no support for your specific chipset?

 Also, how did you go about generating your .config?


Did a make mrproper and started from the test5 .config

 I've been using 2.6 for months now, and -test5 for several days, with
 no problems.

Will keep plugging at it.

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Re: net radio

2003-09-12 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:36 am, Tim Wunder wrote:
 On Thursday 11 September 2003 5:09 pm, someone claiming to be Keith Antoine

 wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:59 am, Bill Davidson wrote:
   On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700
  
   Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla?
Many
   
that I have tried use a url including playlist=... which opens to a
blank window.
  
   http://www.shoutcast.com
  
   Bill
 
  My mozilla says it does not know what to do with the file. version 1.5
  beta.

 Just tell it to open with /usr/bin/xmms
 WFM... MozillaFirebird 0.6.1

 Tim

That did it, ta!
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Re: net radio

2003-09-12 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:08 pm, Bill Davidson wrote:
r On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:09:23 +1000

 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:59 am, Bill Davidson wrote:
   On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:42:13 -0700
  
   Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone found good sources of internet radio that work in mozilla?
Many
   
that I have tried use a url including playlist=... which opens
to a blank window.
  
   http://www.shoutcast.com
  
   Bill
 
  My mozilla says it does not know what to do with the file. version 1.5
  beta.

 You need to tell mozilla what to do with it. I use xmms.

 Bill

That dorked.

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Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-12 Thread Jerry McBride
On Friday 12 September 2003 08:12 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
 On Friday 12 September 2003 18:14 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:07:22 -0400
 
  Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Trying to load up the test5 kernel and I have it compiled, etc.
   Also have been reading David's blurb on 2.6 and think I have all
   that covered.
  
  
   On boot, I get an error:
  
   Kernel panic:  Attempted to kill init!
  
   Due to the debugging info I can't see what it was working on just
   prior to the complaint, but it was well into the hardware discovery
   phase.
  
   

Try passing init=/bin/sh during kernel startup. Also, is it possible that 
you may have tweaked or passed odd/extreme compiler options when making the 
kernel? One other thought maybe you need to update /sbin/init?

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Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-12 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 12 September 2003 20:33 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Friday 12 September 2003 08:12 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
  On Friday 12 September 2003 18:14 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
   On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:07:22 -0400
  
   Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trying to load up the test5 kernel and I have it compiled, etc.
Also have been reading David's blurb on 2.6 and think I have all
that covered.
   
   
On boot, I get an error:
   
Kernel panic:  Attempted to kill init!
   
Due to the debugging info I can't see what it was working on
just prior to the complaint, but it was well into the hardware
discovery phase.

 Try passing init=/bin/sh during kernel startup. Also, is it possible
 that you may have tweaked or passed odd/extreme compiler options when
 making the kernel? One other thought maybe you need to update
 /sbin/init?

Thanks for the tips...What I just tried (and it's working so far) is 
to go back to 'make mrproper'  and after adding in XFS and EXT3  and 
making sure the cpu was set properly, I just compiled the damn thing.

Lots of stuff missing but at least it is booting and I can slowly tweak 
it to see where it breaks.

But that's progressIt may be that I missed some of the cpu 
options on the first go-around when I saw that it correctly set the cpu 
type to  P4.



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Re: Gentoo problem compiling modules

2003-09-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
You run make menuconfig which gives you a menu of stuff that you can 
change.  When you exit and save the file .config in /usr/src/linux is 
created or modified.  It uses that to figure out what to build.


Alan Jackson wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:50:37 -0700
 Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Alan Jackson wrote:
  I installed Gentoo a week ago, and it has mostly been quite smooth.
  printer.o file created. Any suggestions?
 
 Did you run make modules first?
 
 
 Yes.
 
 I'm closer to the problem, though. For some reason, in my
 /etc/kernels/default_config
 the usb printer is disabled. I tried editing this file and
 recompiling, but that doesn't do it. What command does
 gentoo expect for me to update whatever file knows which
 modules to compile?
 
 

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Re: no mail?

2003-09-12 Thread Bob Hemus
Kurt Wall wrote:

Quoth Bob Hemus:

Doug, is the users' mail down or did my fp-linux-ws make you disappear?

What's a fp-linux-ws?

Kurt

I was going to install SpamAssin, but the site said it wasn't for 
desktop use.  So I Lonnied and came up with this site   
www.f-prot.com ]  and downloaded their program.  It seems to be 
working.  I'm not getting any more Re:Details, etc.
Bob

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Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-12 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's 
not working.   I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD.

I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the 
Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso 
shows up as being selected.  

I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by 
pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable.  

However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then failed to 
boot.  I know I'm overlooking something obvious here.  Any help is 
appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-12 Thread Ken Moffat
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's 
not working.   I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD.

I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the 
Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso 
shows up as being selected.  

I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by 
pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable.  

However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then failed to 
boot.  I know I'm overlooking something obvious here.  Any help is 
appreciated.

Thanks.

 

Are you stuck on xcdroast?
(Is this too elementary?)
I usually use the command line ( as root ):
cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 name_of_your.iso
first determine the device using cdrecord --scanbus; mine is device 
0,0,0, yours may differ. you can try a higher speed...

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RE: linus to darl: huh?

2003-09-12 Thread Mike McKinlay
Folks:
 I did a lot of experimentation in the 60's and never got as  far from
reality as this smuck Darl.
ROFLMAO,
 Mike

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Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth dep:

http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,84782,0
0.html?nas=AM-84782


 I want some of what Darl's been taking.

 Kurt
Good grief Kurt, don't touch that stuff, I hear it kills brain cells.G

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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-12 Thread ronnie gauthier
What you are trying to do is combine the config of creating your own ISO to an
already made one. The ISO is what it is, that is why you just copy and burn one.
The master is for creating your own ISO. You need ot rip an ISO and remaster it
to change it.


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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's 
not working.   I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD.

I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the 
Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso 
shows up as being selected.  

I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by 
pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable.  

However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then failed to 
boot.  I know I'm overlooking something obvious here.  Any help is 
appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-12 Thread James McDonald
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's 
not working.   I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD.

I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the 
Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso 
shows up as being selected.  

I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by 
pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable.  

However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then failed to 
boot.  I know I'm overlooking something obvious here.  Any help is 
appreciated.

Thanks.

 

This works for me and I have successfully used xcdroast to burn the 
resulting iso to be used as a bootable cd

  1. Create a directory in a convenient place
 mkdir $HOME/cd_build
  2. Create a subdirectory to hold the boot image
 mkdir cd_build/boot
  3. cd cd_build
  4. Copy the floppy image you want to boot from off the floppy
 dd if=/dev/fd0 of=boot/boot.img bs=1k count=1440
  5. Now add all the files you want burnt onto cd to the cd_build dir
  6. Run the command to create the iso image (don't forget the dot at
 the end)
 mkisofs -r -b boot/boot.img -c boot/boot.catalog -o bootcd.iso .
  7. Using your favourite burning software burn the bootcd.iso file to a CD
http://www.jamesmcdonald.id.au/faqs/mine/bootable_cd_linux.html

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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-12 Thread bof
Matthew Carpenter wrote:

This sounds like you have something in your startup directory which used to
look like an application link (.desktop or .kdelink or something) but now is
associted with KWrite.  Did you happen to change the associations for KWrite
recently (or relatively recently to when this started).
I did not AFAIK change any associations for KWrite, and I never found 
what was causing it to start up to four times when KDE loaded. The 
problem was occuring on both RH 7.3 and RH 9.0.

What I finally did that solved the problem was to delete the directory 
.kde under my home directory. This worked although I did have to go back 
and reconfigure some of my desktop.

So while I am at a loss to say what was going on, I did resolve the issue.

BOF

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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-12 Thread James McDonald
ronnie gauthier wrote:

What you are trying to do is combine the config of creating your own ISO to an
already made one. The ISO is what it is, that is why you just copy and burn one.
The master is for creating your own ISO. You need ot rip an ISO and remaster it
to change it.
 

If the stuff in your iso is needed you can access the contents of an iso 
thusly

http://www.jamesmcdonald.id.au/faqs/mine/rh72install.html#mount_iso

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Mozilla Font Uglies - Any Idea what I am doing wrong?

2003-09-12 Thread James McDonald
Folks,

This link is to a display error I am getting with some web pages and 
emails in mozilla.

   http://www.jamesmcdonald.id.au/gallery/Tech-Stuff/mozilla_mail_error

Looking at the mozconfig options below can anyone see what options I 
need to turn off/on to stop this? Or is it something with my system?

I am running redhat 9.0 with a standard xfs / xft / freetype2 etc 
install with the exception of adding Windows fonts to X using the wine 
./font_convert.sh script to convert the *.fon files to a *.pcf format 
and the usual ttmkfdir  mkfontdir  /usr/sbin/chkfontpath -a for the ttf's

Any insight would be very welcome.

# sh
# Build configuration script
#
# See http://www.mozilla.org/build/unix.html for build instructions.
#
# Options for 'configure' (same as command-line options).
ac_add_options --with-pthreads
ac_add_options --with-system-nspr
ac_add_options --with-system-jpeg=/usr
ac_add_options --with-system-zlib=/usr
ac_add_options --with-system-png=/usr
ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2
ac_add_options --enable-calendar
ac_add_options --enable-xft
ac_add_options --enable-crypto
ac_add_options --enable-native-uconv
ac_add_options --enable-ldap-experimental
ac_add_options --enable-svg
ac_add_options --disable-debug
ac_add_options --enable-reorder
ac_add_options --enable-strip
ac_add_options --enable-xterm-updates
ac_add_options --with-default-mozilla-five-home=/usr/lib/mozilla
#ac_add_options --disable-shared
#ac_add_options --enable-static
ac_add_options --enable-optimize
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=/home/james/downloads/mozilla/mozilla-obj
export MOZ_INTERNAL_LIBART_LGPL=1
mk_add_options MOZ_INTERNAL_LIBART_LGPL=1
MOZILLA_OFFICIAL=1
export MOZILLA_OFFICIAL
BUILD_OFFICIAL=1
export BUILD_OFFICIAL
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