Re: HELP!!
Ted Ozolins wrote: On Saturday 09 February 2002 07:14 pm, Net Llama wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. I thought that in an earlier post it did state that I have forgotten my password I'm assuming that he meant the root password. I still think this is nothing more than client passwords timing out. When passwords time out...you are/should be prompted to change them. They shouldn't just expire and lock users out. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.homeip.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 06:49 am, Ian wrote: When passwords time out...you are/should be prompted to change them. They shouldn't just expire and lock users out. I ran across this once while using COL 2.4. There is no warning that tells you that the user passwords have expired. Since I'm always changing something or upgrading some package, I use the root password a lot. Once logged in as root, I entered in the passwords for all the users and all was back to normal. I then unchecked the box expires in and had no problems since. I change user passwords on a regular basis, but when I decide and not when the system decides its time to roll them. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 02:13, Ted wrote: I thought that in an earlier post it did state that I have forgotten my password I'm assuming that he meant the root password. I still think this is nothing more than client passwords timing out. If I wrote that it was a mistake. I had not forgotten my password. I have had times when a user's password would stop working but I could always login as root and take of it. This time was different - I couldn't get in as root. I was totally locked out of the system. Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 08:49, Ian wrote: When passwords time out...you are/should be prompted to change them. They shouldn't just expire and lock users out. I have yet to see a warning letting any user know that their password will expire under my eD2.4 system. Do I need to set something up for this to happen? Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 09:58, Ted wrote: I ran across this once while using COL 2.4. There is no warning that tells you that the user passwords have expired. Since I'm always changing something or upgrading some package, I use the root password a lot. Once logged in as root, I entered in the passwords for all the users and all was back to normal. I then unchecked the box expires in and had no problems since. I change user passwords on a regular basis, but when I decide and not when the system decides its time to roll them. I ended up changing the expiration time to several years. We'll see if that takes care of it. Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 09:12 pm, daddy wrote: On Wednesday 13 February 2002 09:58, Ted wrote: I ran across this once while using COL 2.4. There is no warning that tells you that the user passwords have expired. Since I'm always changing something or upgrading some package, I use the root password a lot. Once logged in as root, I entered in the passwords for all the users and all was back to normal. I then unchecked the box expires in and had no problems since. I change user passwords on a regular basis, but when I decide and not when the system decides its time to roll them. I ended up changing the expiration time to several years. We'll see if that takes care of it. Mark I set mine to 0 and have not had any problems with it. (Thats on an eD2.4 box) Yes I know 3.1.1 is out and 3.1 has been out for a while now but, I hesitate to upgrade my wifes computer in fear that something will get messed up. She likes the way its set up and since it aint broken she doesn't want it fixed. Only three reboots since the release of 2.4 due to kernel upgrades. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:36:16 -0600 daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike If I have one what does that mean? === Some one has gotten control of your box and has root access. Others will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong and offer saner advice, but this may be one situation where a COMPLETE re-install *might* be required. Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
Typing furiously on February 11, daddy managed to emit: On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike If I have one what does that mean? That you've been hacked. Kurt -- Why do they call a fast a fast, when it goes so slow? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
--- daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike If I have one what does that mean? You've been haxored. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Saturday 09 February 2002 07:14 pm, Net Llama wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. I thought that in an earlier post it did state that I have forgotten my password I'm assuming that he meant the root password. I still think this is nothing more than client passwords timing out. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike If I have one what does that mean? Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Sunday 10 February 2002 01:30, Ted wrote: On Saturday 09 February 2002 07:59 pm, daddy wrote: I haven't forgotten my password. No member of my family can access their account. How can I alter my boot up squence so that I boot up into single user mode. Once I do, I would then use the COAS tools to re-enter the passwords? Mark I take it you can't even login as root? Correct. No user could log in. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:29:04 -0800 (PST) Will changing the 5 to 1 in this line of initab get me to boot up into single user run mode? id:5:initdefault: = At the boot prompt type: linux 1 or linux single Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 22:49:45 -0600 daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: OK this is what I did. Booted up into single user mode Reset the passwords for the users Rebooted in the previously broken system Logged in as if nothing had happened. So I have cured the symptom but still don't have any clue as to what the cause was. I'll check my /var/log for any hints that I was broken into. This is a good time for me to review my security. Thanks Llama for pointing me in the right direction. And thanks everyone else for giving me input. You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike -- Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. --John Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
HELP!!
I'm running eD2.4 with kernel 2.2.14. KDE2.2.1 on an AMD k2-300. When I try to log on as any user I get the password incorrect - login failed message. Even as root. I am currently logged onto another distrib (OL2.3) ona different partition. How can I reset the passwords? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
You could try editing your password files. Look at /etc/shadow. For example: andrew:s52TAIl4IT.:11314:0:-1:7:-1:-1:134535852 aph5::11476:0:-1:7:-1:-1:134535844 user aph5 has no password and you can log on with just the user name. Joel On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:32:44PM -0600, daddy wrote: I'm running eD2.4 with kernel 2.2.14. KDE2.2.1 on an AMD k2-300. When I try to log on as any user I get the password incorrect - login failed message. Even as root. I am currently logged onto another distrib (OL2.3) ona different partition. How can I reset the passwords? Any help would be greatly appreciated. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could try editing your password files. Look at /etc/shadow. For example: andrew:s52TAIl4IT.:11314:0:-1:7:-1:-1:134535852 aph5::11476:0:-1:7:-1:-1:134535844 user aph5 has no password and you can log on with just the user name. Joel On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:32:44PM -0600, daddy wrote: I'm running eD2.4 with kernel 2.2.14. KDE2.2.1 on an AMD k2-300. When I try to log on as any user I get the password incorrect - login failed message. Even as root. I am currently logged onto another distrib (OL2.3) ona different partition. How can I reset the passwords? Any help would be greatly appreciated. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Net Llama wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. I haven't forgotten my password. No member of my family can access their account. How can I alter my boot up squence so that I boot up into single user mode. Once I do, I would then use the COAS tools to re-enter the passwords? Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Saturday 09 February 2002 22:59 pm, daddy wrote: I haven't forgotten my password. No member of my family can access their account. How can I alter my boot up squence so that I boot up into single user mode. Once I do, I would then use the COAS tools to re-enter the passwords? I would hope there is a procedure for that on the step x step stite. www.linux.nf Or download Tom's root-boot disk (a very handy tool in any event) at: www.toms.net/rb -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 02/09/02 23:22 + ++ Success always occurs in private and failure in full view. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, you wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. Will changing the 5 to 1 in this line of initab get me to boot up into single user run mode? id:5:initdefault: ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
--- daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Net Llama wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. I haven't forgotten my password. No member of my family can access their account. OK, then you need to determine what got broken. Passwords don't just change themselves. Either you tinkered with something you shouldn't have, or your box got compromised. How can I alter my boot up squence so that I boot up into single user mode. Well, if you're running GRUB, then you'll prolly need to edit the boot= line so that it says something like 'linux single'. If you're using LILO, then simply type 'linux single' at the LILO prompt. Once I do, I would then use the COAS tools to re-enter the passwords? Errr...no. Now is not the time to be going to a GUI to solve your problems. You're going to need to get really familiar with the command line. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
--- daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, you wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. Will changing the 5 to 1 in this line of initab get me to boot up into single user run mode? id:5:initdefault: Yes, but if you can get to the point where you can edit that file, then you're already logged in, and you won't need to edit that file. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
OK this is what I did. Booted up into single user mode Reset the passwords for the users Rebooted in the previously broken system Logged in as if nothing had happened. So I have cured the symptom but still don't have any clue as to what the cause was. I'll check my /var/log for any hints that I was broken into. This is a good time for me to review my security. Thanks Llama for pointing me in the right direction. And thanks everyone else for giving me input. Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Script help
David A. Bandel wrote: Make the line: ping -c 1 -w 2 192.168.0.$i arp -n 192.168.0.$i | grep -v Iface mac.txt Thanks to all for the help. This did the trick for me. So simple yet I couldn't figure it out. -- Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Script help
Hi all, First, my script abilility rests in /dev/null. That being said, what I am *trying* to do is get a text file with a list of MAC addresses and the corresponding IP's for certain ranges of IP's. Part of my solution: --- for i in `seq 100 120`; do ping -c 5 -w 5 192.168.0.$1 | arp macadd.txt done --- The problem: Each time through the loop, it continues to ping the previous address as well as the next address thus repeating the entry in the macadd.txt file. i.e. First entry Heading Heading 192.168.0.100 macaddress Second entry Heading Heading 192.168.0.100 macaddress 192.168.0.102 macaddress Third entry Heading Heading 192.168.0.100 macaddress 192.168.0.102 macaddress 192.168.0.103 macaddress and so on and so on. My question is, does anyone know how to get it to just add the next entry to the list in the file instead of creating a whole new list each time around and sticking it in there? I've looked many places and tried many things but nothing I've done elimiates this problem. Any advice for me? TIA, Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Script help
Well, I don't understand the -w option. And I don't understand the pipe command, and I don't understand what the arp cache is too well, but: Why not just ping all these addresses first, then use arp to get their MAC's? If you are on this network, your arp cache will store those mac's, at least for a while. If you are not on this network, run the ping command and use tcpdump -i eth0 -n save and then dredge the save file. Joel On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 03:26:27AM +0800, Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, First, my script abilility rests in /dev/null. That being said, what I am *trying* to do is get a text file with a list of MAC addresses and the corresponding IP's for certain ranges of IP's. Part of my solution: --- for i in `seq 100 120`; do ping -c 5 -w 5 192.168.0.$1 | arp macadd.txt done --- The problem: Each time through the loop, it continues to ping the previous address as well as the next address thus repeating the entry in the macadd.txt file. i.e. First entry Heading Heading 192.168.0.100 macaddress Second entry Heading Heading 192.168.0.100 macaddress 192.168.0.102 macaddress Third entry Heading Heading 192.168.0.100 macaddress 192.168.0.102 macaddress 192.168.0.103 macaddress and so on and so on. My question is, does anyone know how to get it to just add the next entry to the list in the file instead of creating a whole new list each time around and sticking it in there? I've looked many places and tried many things but nothing I've done elimiates this problem. Any advice for me? TIA, Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Script help
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 03:26:27 +0800 begin Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Hi all, First, my script abilility rests in /dev/null. That being said, what I am *trying* to do is get a text file with a list of MAC addresses and the corresponding IP's for certain ranges of IP's. Part of my solution: --- for i in `seq 100 120`; do ping -c 5 -w 5 192.168.0.$1 | arp macadd.txt Let's analyze this line for a second. You ping an address 5 times. (I'll ignore the typo and assume it's $i not $1). Then pass it to arp as an argument. Or do you? Try this: ping -c 1 192.168.0.2 ping -c 1 192.168.0.3 (let's assume both can be pung) echo 192.168.0.2 | arp oops. looks like arp doesn't know how to accept piping of an argument. Several utilities have this problem. Make the line: ping -c 1 -w 2 192.168.0.$i arp -n 192.168.0.$i | grep -v Iface mac.txt the changes: we really don't need to ping something 5 times to get it's MAC address, and a 2 second wait is really too long, but better than 5. The says, if the ping exited unsuccessfully (we couldn't ping the system), then we don't want to run arp, but if successful, we do. Then forcefeed arp the same IP so we only get one line. The -n is, well, do you really want to resolve the hostname? The grep -v gets rid of the Header line. done --- [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Script help
Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, First, my script abilility rests in /dev/null. That being said, what I am *trying* to do is get a text file with a list of MAC addresses and the corresponding IP's for certain ranges of IP's. Part of my solution: --- for i in `seq 100 120`; do ping -c 5 -w 5 192.168.0.$1 | arp macadd.txt done --- SNIP I've looked many places and tried many things but nothing I've done elimiates this problem. Any advice for me? How bout this: I don't have many hosts on my net, and the subnet is different, change to suit, but it works here. --- for i in `seq 1 10`; do ping -c 5 -w 1 192.168.1.$i | arp -n | grep 192.168.1.$i macadd.txt done sort -u macadd.txt macadd2.txt mv macadd2.txt macadd.txt --- -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Need help with a bash script - -n and -z always giving true ?
Hello, I'm trying to write a bash script for a back up job. Unfortunately I'm not getting anywhere. I need to mount a file system only if the filesystem is _not_ already mounted. I'm thinking of it like this: Ok, I've been reading documentation and wrote a test script. I've so far managed to make it like this: #!/bin/bash if [ -n `mount |grep /mnt/root/cschomeserver/e` ] #if it's already mounted don't mount it then PREMOUNTED='YES' echo is mounted #If it's already mounted set a var else echo mount /mnt/root/cschomeserver/e is not mounted #if it's not mounted, mount it. fi echo $PREMOUNTED Unfortunately it seems that -n is exactly the opposite of what I need because the output is backwards. Additionally, it was working backwards but without error a minute ago and now it's giving that too many arguments thing - I'm not sure what's changed, I tried undoing my (very small) edits to the file and it's still erroring even after the un-do so I'm not sure what happened. When it really is mounted I get the following output from that script: fluorite:~ # ./test.sh ./test.sh: [: too many arguments mount /mnt/root/cschomeserver/e is not mounted Which is backwards - it is mounted. As you can see PREMOUNTED doesn't get set either - again, that's backwards. Then when it really isn't mounted the script _does_ set the var: fluorite:~ # umount /mnt/root/cschomeserver/e/ fluorite:~ # ./test.sh YES So, can someone tell me what the opposite of -n is? According to the man page it's -z but that's acting the same as -n (weird) I can't figure it out. I've tried -n, -z and a host of other options I see in the man page and none of it's working and it's backwards both ways. Also can anyone explain the too many arguments part - are you not allowed to run a command inside [] for output? I'm also testing it with the interactive shell, such as the following variation: fluorite:~ # if test -n $( `mount |grep /mnt/root/cschomeserver/e` ) ; then PREMOUNTED=YES echo $PREMOUNTED ; else echo no ; fi YES Unfortunately this (and test -z) is always returning YES so something's still quite wrong. Obviously I do not understand how to properly get a yes/no value out of the string returned from a nested command. If someone could explain even that much I'd appreciate it. TIA Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 5:53 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: Pam R babbled on about: was mailing via my normal isp (btinternet.com) so I now use uklinux for all mails to the SxS lists and that works fine. Pam to this thread using btinternet and see if issue still exists. thanks Trying. Pam -- Linux Step by Step (UK mirror): http://www.pam.roberts.btinternet.co.uk/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list
On Thursday 17 January 2002 2:51 am, burns wrote: On January 16, 2002 03:34 pm, Dallam Wych wrote: Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live in. ...And as I recall from having lived in Herts, what day of the week it was. No, it's the phase of the moon that is critical. Pam (sending from btinternet) -- Linux Step by Step (UK mirror): http://www.pam.roberts.btinternet.co.uk/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 08:20:21PM +, Pam R wrote: Trying. Good Luck Pam...Here's hoping there aren't to many leaves on the phone lines :) Regards, Dallam -- Dallam Wych [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024: A89A2371 Ipsa scientia potestas est 2717 4EB8 461D 743B 47CF Registered Linux User 0D68 C32A 5CDE A89A 2371 counter.li.org:213656 msg08386/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Pam R managed to emit: On Thursday 17 January 2002 2:51 am, burns wrote: On January 16, 2002 03:34 pm, Dallam Wych wrote: Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live in. ...And as I recall from having lived in Herts, what day of the week it was. No, it's the phase of the moon that is critical. No, no, no. You must hold your mouth properly. [sigh] How many times do I have to tell people this! Kurt -- You will be winged by an anti-aircraft battery. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:56,Pam R scribed: I had the same problem but 100% of the time when the list started up and I was mailing via my normal isp (btinternet.com) so I now use uklinux for all mails to the SxS lists and that works fine. Pam I have two lousy choices with cable and the second is worse than I have. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:58:57 + Dallam Wych [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: Dallam, Would you mind turning off signatures for posting to the list? Sylpheed keeps popping up this annoying dialogue box: can't verify signature from (?). thanx, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wednesday 16 January 2002 2:03 am, Keith Antoine wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:58,Douglas J Hunley scribed: forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below. anyone know how to help him? There seems to be problem somewhere with the list server that is intermittant. I occasionally have mail returned as relaying denied, I then copy and resend, it then goes fine. No idea why either. I had the same problem but 100% of the time when the list started up and I was mailing via my normal isp (btinternet.com) so I now use uklinux for all mails to the SxS lists and that works fine. Pam -- Linux Step by Step (UK mirror): http://www.pam.roberts.btinternet.co.uk/sxs/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 12:53:49PM -0500, Douglas J Hunley wrote: to this thread using btinternet and see if issue still exists. thanks Doug, I am using btinternet and haven't had a problem with the few posts I have made to this list. Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live in. Regards, Dallam -- Dallam Wych [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024: A89A2371 Ipsa scientia potestas est 2717 4EB8 461D 743B 47CF Registered Linux User 0D68 C32A 5CDE A89A 2371 counter.li.org:213656 msg08347/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Douglas J Hunley wrote: forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below. anyone know how to help him? -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Need help to get back on the list Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:27:57 -0500 From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need help to get back on the linux step by step mailing list. Maybe you can relay this to the list or to the right person. I had to change my ip address because of the @HOME troubles. Everything seems to be going well except I couldn't post to the linux list. I re-subscribed, but this is what I get in return mail now: 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply: read error from linux.nf. ... while talking to mail.panamanow.net.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied. IP name possibly forged [68.33.0.214] That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know how to solve this. Thanks, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Joel, Are you using your own box as the smtp server for sending mail? I'm not experiencing any problems and I'm using mail.twsn1.md.home.com as my smtp server (while at home, anyway). Try setting up your mailer to use the old @home mail server as your smtp server and see if you can post. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Well, I gotta open the case and check. It worked about 2 years ago when this box had Windows on it. Yes, I've been in the box since then and might have bumped the wire loose or something. As far as the settings in KMix, I have all the volumes maxed(I'll probably be either deafened or scared witless when it does finally work) and have played with about every variation of muting/unmuting that I can imagine. So, I'll open the case when I get a chance and check it out. Jim On Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:10, Dave Anselmi wrote: Jim Conner wrote: [...] As for fixing cd audio, it's on that big to-do list that's a mile long. It's not critical, I get all other sounds, but would be nice to have working. If you have sound working generally, there are only 2 things I can think of to add for CD audio. First, you need a wire connecting your CD's audo port to your sound card. Second, you may need to unmute or otherwise adjust the CD audio channel in your mixer. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- 1:42pm up 22:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.07 Running Caldera W3.1 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 04:15, Tim Wunder wrote: Upon investigation, I made a WAG that the reason I needed to load ide-scsi during boot was that I had IDE CDROM support compiled into the kernel. Bugger, bugger, bugger. I *forgot* all about that wrinkle. You are right sir. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:30, Ken Moffat wrote: ln -s /dev/srX /dev/scdX PMFJI .. I have /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 for cd-rw and dvd. Should I do step 3 above? Yes. It does no harm. Jan 13 07:23:05 localhost kernel: sr1: CDROM not ready. Make sure there a symlink will fix that. I assume supermount is looking for media. Annoying. Correct. The bottom line here is simply to understand that both srX and scdX refer to the same animal. How you organise YOUR system is one of the best features of Linux. You can. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:57, David A. Bandel wrote: If you have something better (than devfs), I know lots of folks who would like to hear your idea of how to do it. We have no argument about the 'goodness' of devfs. devfs is going to happen, because it has to. I have run devfs (past tense) I agreed with it, it did not agree with me. I admire your ability to use it. Richard Gooch has a *lot* of documentation to catch up on because 80% of what is there is a 1998 argument as to why devfs is needed (in preference to other alternatives). It is scant, to non-existent, on HOW to use it. so you need to tell whoever owns the sr_mod module that he's got to rename is scd_mod because he's wrong -- no? This is facetious. The point being that the ramifications of implementing scdX in preference to srX were not thought out fully. Redhat is not alone, unique or the leader of this new wrinkle. And, I'd fight anyone who said the kernel must change because of *any* distro. _because_ sr_mod is hardwired, _because_ many automounters hunt srX, this new approach may die a death and everyone will revert to srX. Right now, there is confusion everywhere about the duality of scdX /srX and there's no magic-cure. I don't argue the author must change, I point out the reasons why thingz iz as they iz. My view is that the dynamic assignment of devfs will rule the day and things will revert. I've been using devfs since it came out. I prefer it. It may not be perfect, but it's a damn site better than creating thousands of useless device nodes No contest. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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hallo, Guy Van Sanden Im a K7S5A+XP1800++ASUS Gf2 user from Berlin. Since my first start I alwais receive While Initializing device CONFIGMG: Windows Protection Error. You need to restart your computer. with every cold start. And the computer is very unstabil. It doesnt make fun when it crashes by saving, wich happens often. The one who built and sold it says it is not his problem. I installed Windows again. Nothing changes. I tested the memory with memetest86. No mistakes. I check what Windows offers on ist web pages. Nothing helps. ... Can you help me to solve this problem. or If I can be sure, that it is his mistake, I can make some more preasure on that guy who sold it to me. But if I bring the computer to some Profies to be tested, it will cost me some hundred s (no more DMs #61514; ) I can not pay it. Hlp! Sen __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Even though this a Linux list, we Linux users are always concerned for our brethren who are in error (Windows Users). The most obvious solution would be to switch to a Linux OS. SuSe is German made and is user friendly. But, your problem may not be with your Win system ( such as I hate to say it) it may be hardware connected. If your hard drive is going bad it might be in the sectors reserved for bootup of the operating system. That would explain why when you first load Windows it works for awhile the goes bad. If this the case you might try to run scandisk surface check and have your computer block off bad sectors. It does this automatically. This would be just be a temporary fix as once a hard drive starts to go it keeps getting worse. Another test would be to load a Linux system (Caldera, Mandrake, SuSe, Red Hat, ect) and use for awhile. If boot problemscomes back with Linux replace your hard drive. Lee sencer vardarman wrote: hallo, Guy Van Sanden I?m a K7S5A+?XP1800+?+ASUS Gf2 user from Berlin. Since my first start I alwais receive ?While Initializing device CONFIGMG: Windows Protection Error. You need to restart your computer.? with every cold start. And the computer is very unstabil. It doesn?t make fun when it crashes by saving, wich happens often. The one who built and sold it says it is not his problem. I installed Windows again. Nothing changes. I tested the memory with memetest86. No mistakes. I check what Windows offers on ist web pages. Nothing helps. ... Can you help me to solve this problem. or If I can be sure, that it is his mistake, I can make some more preasure on that guy who sold it to me. But if I bring the computer to some Profies to be tested, it will cost me some hundred ?s (no more DMs #61514; ) I can not pay it. Hlp! Sen __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: devfs was Re: cdrom help
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:39:31 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:57, David A. Bandel wrote: If you have something better (than devfs), I know lots of folks who would like to hear your idea of how to do it. We have no argument about the 'goodness' of devfs. devfs is going to happen, because it has to. But if there's a better way to implement it, that would be a good thing. As it stands, it's not that it's good, bad, or indifferent, it's that it's the _only_ way to dynamically create what you need. I have run devfs (past tense) I agreed with it, it did not agree with me. Sorry to hear that. I haven't had any problems with it or I'd have abandoned it long ago. But it works well enough I just stick with it. I admire your ability to use it. Richard Gooch has a *lot* of documentation to catch up on because 80% of what is there is a 1998 argument as to why devfs is needed (in preference to other alternatives). It is scant, to non-existent, on HOW to use it. True. I'd say the documentation is the code, but it's nearly unintelligible to any but a kernel hacker (which I ain't). so you need to tell whoever owns the sr_mod module that he's got to rename is scd_mod because he's wrong -- no? This is facetious. The point being that the ramifications of implementing scdX in preference to srX were not thought out fully. Redhat is not alone, unique or the leader of this new wrinkle. And, I'd fight anyone who said the kernel must change because of *any* distro. True. I should have put a tongue in cheek emoticon with this. But I haven't seen any use of scd#, only of sr#. OTOH, I don't run RH or direct derivitives (at least not direct enough to have RH's problems). _because_ sr_mod is hardwired, _because_ many automounters hunt srX, this new approach may die a death and everyone will revert to srX. Right now, there is confusion everywhere about the duality of scdX /srX and there's no magic-cure. I don't argue the author must change, I point out the reasons why thingz iz as they iz. My view is that the dynamic assignment of devfs will rule the day and things will revert. Documentation is great. And you can document the use of scd# forever. But until devfs + all the major distros implement it (and RH and a few of its followers aren't all the major distros), it's nothing but words. And a number of distros do use devfs (gentoo and sorcerer come to mind, so I'm not exactly alone). Meanwhile, any documentation should probably cover both (as much of an annoyance as that is). I've been using devfs since it came out. I prefer it. It may not be perfect, but it's a damn site better than creating thousands of useless device nodes No contest. -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Found another wrinkle on my system. This may affect some and not others depending on hardware and such. If you have DMA turned on when you compiled the kernel, it will enable DMA for the cdrom and cdrw. This will cause a kernel oops when you mount the cd and the only way out is the reset button. I got around it by doing this. I put these two lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.local: hdparm -d0 /dev/hdd hdparm -d0 /dev/hde Please change this to reflect your appropriate drives. It turns off DMA for the two drives and every thing works just perfect. Well, almost, cd audio doesn't work no matter what I try. Although I haven't tried the obligatory sacrificial chicken on the keyboard. :) Jim On Monday, January 14, 2002 6:39, Mike Andrew wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 04:15, Tim Wunder wrote: Upon investigation, I made a WAG that the reason I needed to load ide-scsi during boot was that I had IDE CDROM support compiled into the kernel. Bugger, bugger, bugger. I *forgot* all about that wrinkle. You are right sir. -- 1:42pm up 23 days, 15:21, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.16 Running Caldera W3.1 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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This has correccted the problem. Thanks. (again) On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:12:26 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:30, Ken Moffat wrote: ln -s /dev/srX /dev/scdX PMFJI .. I have /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 for cd-rw and dvd. Should I do step 3 above? Yes. It does no harm. Jan 13 07:23:05 localhost kernel: sr1: CDROM not ready. Make sure there a symlink will fix that. I assume supermount is looking for media. Annoying. Correct. The bottom line here is simply to understand that both srX and scdX refer to the same animal. How you organise YOUR system is one of the best features of Linux. You can. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Folks, This topic has raised a lot of questions, and even touched on an area where I may be able to contribute (for a change). The question was raised about whether to copy the CD image to hard drive before burning to CDRW. That will work more reliably in some cases, and won't hurt. The usual cause of problems during a burn is when the write buffer gets empty. For some reason CDRW software (on board) can't seem to accommodate this (YMMV according to manufacturer). So, if you are copying from a *fast* CDROM to a slow CDRW, this may never be a problem. If, however, they run at the same speed, or are on the same bus where a data transfer conflict can slow things down, you might be safer to copy to HD and burn from there. This is a *great* reason to insure that you don't have both CDs on the same IDE bus, BTW. I have seen this problem occur on a 16x read and a 4x write, but the processor and bus were the limiting factors. Hope this helps. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass SingerSailor and Singer of Chanties | | Left Handed and In My Right Mind | +--+ /\ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 04:56, Rick Sivernell wrote: I am having continual problems with cdroms. I have the following scsi id 4 42x scsi cdrom scsi id 5 Yamaha 6x4x16 cdwriter hdc is a 52x ide cdrom drive [snippetty hack] Rick, your problem is your misunderstanding of srX and scdX they are BOTH the same thing. Viz. [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/sc* | more brw-rw-r-- 1 rick disk 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd0 brw-rw-r-- 1 root disk 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd1 brw--- 1 rick root 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr0 brw--- 1 rick disk 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr1 note the major / minor numbers? They are identical. First. modern distros deprecate the use of srX, get rid of them, literally. Promise from me that you can do no harm by deleting them. 2) you don't appear to have /dev/scd2. Do a mknod 3) ln -s /dev/srX /dev/scdX iterate X 0, 1 and 2 Each of your cd roms (all THREE) will iterate scd0, scd1 and finally scd2. Which is what is *impossible* to say as it depends on the order of module load, AND, which gets mounted first. (Blame the crappy scsi framework on Linux for that one, it's a brothel) As a fair and reasonable guess, your system (regardless of what you think you have in /etc/fstab) is as follows scd0 = hdc (because of append statement) scd1 = writer (lun #4) scd2 = reader (lun #5) /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/cdwriter /mnt/sr0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/scd1 is09660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 so that YOU don't get confused, scrap out all references to srX in both the fstab, and, obviously, the /mnt folder, replace them with the direct scdX name. again, scrap all symlinks to mysterious items like cdrom etc and use direct /dev/scdX's. By all means, change back after it's settled down, but first work in the literal world (kde makes special use of the name 'cdrom' incidentally) *Temporarily* disable automounters Finally, reboot, place a cd in each drive and mount each scdX to find out who is what. There *will be* a timing race between the hdc and the other devices. If it is mounted FIRST, it will *probably* affect the scdX order because it's device minor node doesn't get registered until the cdrom.o module is loaded. Thus, I don't want to complicate things here, but *if* it's mounted first it will be scd0, *if* not, it might be scd2. You are going to have to play. All else fails? post here tail -50 /var/log/messages immediately after a reboot -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:19:15 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:36, David A. Bandel wrote: modern distros deprecate the use of srX, get rid of them, literally. Promise from me that you can do no harm by deleting them. What's your source for this? /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt plus That's what I get for not reading every word of every piece of documentation with every new relaese. now I have to wonder when this happened. :-(. OTOH, if I spent all my time rereading every single document with every single release of every single package, I might be up to reading in kernel version 1.2.10 about now. Maybe up to 2.2.18 in 2005. latest releases of most Distros (RH7.1/2 eg) only have /dev/scdX nodes. not srX nodes. Most of what RH does is wrong, so don't use them as a measure of anything. I run 2.4.17 w/ devfs all bets are off. devfs is a good idea, badly implemented, attrociously documented. It doesn't work with the LABEL=/ statement in /etc/fstab If you have something better, I know lots of folks who would like to hear your idea of how to do it. The reason for devfs is the explosion of devices and the limited major/minor numbers available. In fact, devfs is supposed to do away with the device numbers problem because there aren't enough numbers for every device in the world. While you may not have but a few devices connected to your system, if you had one that either didn't have a major/minor because there were no more, or because another device you're using is using the major/minor this new device needs, you're SOL (sorry, out of luck). when I modprobe ide-scsi then sr_mod, the only devices created are sr0 and sr1. These devices are created dynamically by sr_mod. Being pedantic, modules don't do this. devfs intercepts the registration and makes (and destoys) nodes on the fly. It picks up on the internally named 'sr' labels because, by convention, the names of device drivers are associated, programatically, with /dev/names. sr_mod, is an unfortunate choice. so you need to tell whoever owns the sr_mod module that he's got to rename is scd_mod because he's wrong -- no? Ignoring devfs for the moment, the only thing any driver, and any application, looks for is major / minor numbers, you can call the thing, and address the thing, as /dev/elephants for all that it matters. (it's just a lookup to the major/minor number). yes, I know how major/minors work (currently). But that's also their drawback. While I don't call any device foo, I have created device nodes with this name just to show how it works to others. kernel messages invoked by sr_mod refer to it's device nodes as sr0 ... etc. BUT, these are hardwired internal printk messages of sr_mod. Popular useage these days is /dev/scd0. So, the guy that programs sr_mod is as lost as I am (or hasn't read the recent documentation changes and/or doesn't take RH as gospel). Regardless, the point being is that both names /dev/scdX AND /dev/srX mean the same thing, they are both the same major minors and cause added confusion in an already confused and idiotic scsi node tree. ( I am referring to both the dynamic assignment of /dev/sxx anything, and the tree jumps to accomodate a squillion scsi minor nodes). No, it doesn't. You can't create that many device nodes because of the limitation of the major/minor numbers. If it were not recommended to use scdX, and, if distros hadn't already pre-empted this by removing /dev/srX nodes, I would just as emphatically reverse my stance and remove scdX anything. Whatever whichway, the duality causes problems. (witness the screams in /etc/fstab by many users) To be truthfull David, I hadn't considered devfs, it's an added wrinkle to the mess. I've been using devfs since it came out. I prefer it. It may not be perfect, but it's a damn site better than creating thousands of useless device nodes (which, BTW, take up inodes/disk space). On my personal distro (mine, Chiriqui Linux, the one I created which boots from a CD and runs in RAM mounting /usr from the CD) uses devfs -- or I would have to create each device by hand for just what I need or I'd waste precious space). Sure would like to hear your idea of a replacement for devfs. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:27:28 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After reading that bedtime reading page, it's a wonder anything works... I'm always amazed anything works (when I'm at the controls). -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Previously, Tim Wunder chose to write: Yeah, I know, replying to my own post, yada, yada snip My COL3.1 apparently uses both srx and scdx to refer to the same things: brwxrwxrwx 2 root disk 11, 0 Apr 27 2001 /dev/scd0 brw--- 1 dad root 11, 1 Apr 27 2001 /dev/scd1 brw--- 1 dad root 11, 0 Apr 27 2001 /dev/sr0 brw-rw-r-- 1 root disk 11, 1 Apr 27 2001 /dev/sr1 Interesting to note the user/group for my devices. Not sure what's going on there... sr0 and scd0 are my SCSI CDRW, sr1 and scd1 are my IDE CD-ROM, /dev/hdd. I happen to have hdd=ide-scsi in my menu.lst. I also have ide-scsi loaded as a module in /etc/modules/default. Everything works, but it sure seems horked. Guess I'll try to play around with it some to see if I can figger out what's going on. It is likely only the only thing this task will accomplish, though, is breakage... I'll start by removing the /dev/sr0 and sr1 files and take hdd=ide-scsi out of grub's menu.lst file and see what happens. Well, I removed the /dev/sr0 and sr1 files and took hdd=ide-scsi out of grub's menu.lst file and, upon first reboot, my ide CD-ROM was no longer seen by xcdroast as a scsi device. In order for my IDE CD-ROM to be seen as a scsi device, I had to add hdd=ide-scsi to the kernel line in my menu.lst file. This is contrary to what the bedtime reading document states. So I set out to determine why. Upon investigation, I made a WAG that the reason I needed to load ide-scsi during boot was that I had IDE CDROM support compiled into the kernel. I tested my WAG by recompiling the kernel with IDE-CDROM support as a module. Upon reboot with this new kernel, I am able to access my IDE-CDROM using xcdroast. Now, off to figure out why I can't access my IDE-ZIP drive with this same kernel. But that should be another thread... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:06,David A. Bandel scribed: On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:33:19 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: [snip] modern distros deprecate the use of srX, get rid of them, literally. Promise from me that you can do no harm by deleting them. What's your source for this? I run 2.4.17 w/ devfs (the latest). At boot, I have neither scd# nor sr# devices, but when I modprobe ide-scsi then sr_mod, the only devices created are sr0 and sr1. These devices are created dynamically by sr_mod. The info is built into the module. If what you say is true, then I don't understand why I only get sr# and not scd#. David, I am in no way in either your or Mikes' league; However I have noticed in differing distros that srX is missing in some and not in others. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:45,Tim Wunder scribed: Now thats interesting and i'll have a look at mine. Well, I removed the /dev/sr0 and sr1 files and took hdd=ide-scsi out of grub's menu.lst file and, upon first reboot, my ide CD-ROM was no longer seen by xcdroast as a scsi device. In order for my IDE CD-ROM to be seen as a scsi device, I had to add hdd=ide-scsi to the kernel line in my menu.lst file. This is contrary to what the bedtime reading document states. So I set out to determine why. Upon investigation, I made a WAG that the reason I needed to load ide-scsi during boot was that I had IDE CDROM support compiled into the kernel. I tested my WAG by recompiling the kernel with IDE-CDROM support as a module. Upon reboot with this new kernel, I am able to access my IDE-CDROM using xcdroast. Now, off to figure out why I can't access my IDE-ZIP drive with this same kernel. But that should be another thread... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Saturday 12 January 2002 14:45 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: I am not getting a stable cdrom operation all the time. On all CD drives? or just the IDE one? -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/12/02 15:35 + ++ The flush toilet is the basis of western civilization. - Alan Coult ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Previously, Rick Sivernell chose to write: On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:12:15 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok now have read the BedTime reader. What I get is 1 If cdrom is not IDE-RW then hdx=ide-scsi is not needed, especially if you have real scsi cdroms writers. As long as you don't you want your cd burning software to see it, yes. 2. if you have 3 cdrom drives you should have sr0 sr1 sr2 etc for list of the drives you have. If they are all scsi or emulated as scsi by the ide-scsi module. 3. If you have 3 or more drivbes all ypou have is /sev/sr0 / sr1, do you need to creat a new device for the remaining cddrives. If so, how or what is the propper meth to perform this. I don't follow this. AFAIK, all devices identified by the kernel and the ide-scsi module will have their device names created automagically. FWIW, I believe mknod is the command you need to use to create devices. But I'm not convinced that's what you want to do. Recommendation: Remove all symlinks in /dev Remove the kernel line hdc=ide-scsi Re-boot the system and look at your /dev directory. As I understand it, you should then have /dev/sr0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/sr1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM If you want the IDE CD-ROM to be seen by xcdroast, or your preferred CD burning software, you'll need to load the ide-scsi module during the boot process (refer to the Bedtime reading to find the right place according to your distro). That should give you a third device, /dev/sr2, which should be the IDE-CDROM as seen thru scsi-emulation. Test the config by placing a data CD in each drive, one by one, and mounting it, 'mount -tiso9660 /dev/srx /mnt/whatever' Then, create the /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdwriter, /dev/whatever symlinks you want. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:02:53 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recommendation: Remove all symlinks in /dev Remove the kernel line hdc=ide-scsi Re-boot the system and look at your /dev directory. As I understand it, you should then have /dev/sr0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/sr1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM PMFJI Here is what worked for me. I have 1 cdrw and one dvd, both shown as scsi, and the devices are scd0 and scd1. (I've seen somewhere that sr0 and sr1 are outdated. (?)) And I use the lilo line append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi This works in Redhat7.1, ELX and Libranet. I deleted my cdrom links in /dev (cdrom-hdb and cdrom1-hdc) and replaced them with ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom ln -s /dev/scd1 /dev/cdrom1 Just another alternative to investigate. The stepbystep site was a big help. http://linux.nf -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:15:18 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:02:53 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recommendation: Remove all symlinks in /dev Remove the kernel line hdc=ide-scsi Re-boot the system and look at your /dev directory. As I understand it, you should then have /dev/sr0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/sr1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM PMFJI Here is what worked for me. I have 1 cdrw and one dvd, both shown as scsi, and the devices are scd0 and scd1. (I've seen somewhere that sr0 and sr1 are outdated. (?)) And I use the lilo line append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi This works in Redhat7.1, ELX and Libranet. I deleted my cdrom links in /dev (cdrom-hdb and cdrom1-hdc) and replaced them with ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom ln -s /dev/scd1 /dev/cdrom1 Just another alternative to investigate. Yes, elx only uses /dev/scd... /dev/sr... do not exist. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:02:53 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recommendation: Remove all symlinks in /dev Remove the kernel line hdc=ide-scsi Re-boot the system and look at your /dev directory. As I understand it, you should then have /dev/sr0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/sr1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM erm, make that /dev/scd0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/scd1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM PMFJI Here is what worked for me. I have 1 cdrw and one dvd, both shown as scsi, and the devices are scd0 and scd1. (I've seen somewhere that sr0 and sr1 are outdated. (?)) And I snip I stand corrected. (jeez, and I JUST read the damn bedtime reading page, too!) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:37:36 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I've seen somewhere that sr0 and sr1 are outdated. (?)) And I snip I stand corrected. (jeez, and I JUST read the damn bedtime reading page, too!) Tim I didn't mean to correct, just offer an alternative. I've heard that both can work, depending on the distro. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
List Thanks for response. Need to add some info here. Running ew 3.1.1 using kde 2.2 /var/log/messages: Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Adaptec aic7850 SCSI adapter Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: scsi ID 6 Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Vendor: ARCHIVE Model: 4326XX 03813-XXX Rev: 645a scsi ID 5 Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Vendor: YAMAHAModel: CRW6416S Rev: 1.0b Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 scsi ID 4 Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Vendor: TOSHIBA Model: CD-ROM XM-6401TA Rev: 1009 Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 IDE CDROM: Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Vendor: E-IDE Model: CD-ROM 52X/AKHRev: A62 Jan 11 06:31:40 RSivernell kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 . Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0 Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr2 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: (scsi0:A:5): 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 16x/16x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: sr1: scsi-1 drive Jan 11 06:32:36 RSivernell kernel: sr2: scsi3-mmc drive: 8x/52x cd/rw xa/form2 cddatray [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/cd* | more lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Jan 10 15:49 /dev/cdrom - /dev/sr1 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root8 Jan 12 14:38 /dev/cdrom2 - /dev/sr2 no sr2 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Jan 12 10:59 /dev/cdwriter - /dev/sr0 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/sr* | more brw---1 rick root 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr0 brw---1 rick root 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr1 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/scd* | more brw-rw-r--1 rick disk 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd0 brw-rw-r--1 root disk 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd1 if scd? replaces sr?, why does caldera still use sr?? The on desktop Icon use ICON URLs on Desktop /auto/cdrom for /dev/sr1 /auto/cdwriter for /dev/sr0 /dev/sr2 for /mnt/sr2 there is not any /dev/sr2 or /dev/scd2 I have removed from grub/menu.lst hdc=ide-scsi rebooted. All is the same as before. The most stable cd drive is my cdwriter @ /dev/sr0. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Somewhat inexperienced at this SCSI setup, but looking at my system the real SCSI CD's are sr0 and sr1. The sr? values are assigned based on the SCSI id number. In fact I recently (yesterday) had a problem adding a SCSI dvd as SCSI id 0 on a system that already had SCSI id 4 and 5 because the SCSI id 4 device had already been linked as sr0. After the new dvd was added as SCSI id 0 the new dvd became sr0 and the pre-existing SCSI id 4 device become sr1. The links did not automatically change and the new dvd assumed the identity of the SCSI device which was sr0. What I am suggesting is that your SCSI cd system is as follows: /dev/sr0 scsi id 4 42x cdrom /dev/sr1 scsi id 5 cdwriter /dev/scd1emulation 52x ide cdrom This does not agree with the info that you provided, but on my system the lower SCSI id device gets the lower sr? value. To solve my problem the /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrecorder were removed (rm). Then new links were established for /dev/sr0 - /dev/dvd and /dev/sr1 - /dev/cdrecorder. Until these links were established on the system fstab did not reflect the physical system. Having only ever worked on two SCSI systems treat the above comments with caution. On Sat, 2002-01-12 at 12:45, Rick Sivernell wrote: List I am having continual problems with cdroms. I have the following scsi id 4 42x scsi cdrom scsi id 5 Yamaha 6x4x16 cdwriteronly one that seems to work all the time scsi id 6 scsi dat 4mm tape drive not a problem ow. hdc is a 52x ide cdrom drivethere on bootup but do anything and it disappears or hangs system I have set kernal line to hdc=ide-scsi, verify below. I get 3 icons on the desktop and most of the time they say they are mounted, cd drive cdwriter. I am not getting a stable cdrom operation all the time. Please correct me if I am wrong, I know you guys will g with pleasure. The system boots up and sees the true scsi as scd? and the ide as hd?. Thus the scd0 scd1 for my scsi cdrom drives, there are no scsi hard drives in this system, the ide-scsi as sr0. A mout point in /auto should be for /dev/cdrom - sr0 as cdrom, a second for /dev/cdwriter - /dev/scd0 as /auto/cdwriter, /dev/cddrive 2 - /dev/scd1 as /auto/cdrom2. What is going wrong, or do I need to provide more info. I have read the sxs @linux.nf. not quite sure here. hda is a 60g harddrive ide ile setups: [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/ta* | more lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Dec 21 03:23 /dev/tape - st0 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/cd* | more lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Jan 10 15:49 /dev/cdrom - sr1 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan 12 10:55 /dev/cdrom2 - /dev/scd1 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root6 Dec 21 03:01 /dev/cdu31a - sonycd brw-rw-r-- 1 root disk24, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/cdu535 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Jan 12 10:59 /dev/cdwriter - sr0 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/sc* | more brw-rw-r--1 rick disk 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd0 brw-rw-r--1 root disk 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd1 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/sr* | more brw---1 rick root 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr0 brw---1 rick disk 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr1 [root@RSivernell rick]# cat /etc/fstab devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/cdwriter /mnt/sr0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/scd1 is09660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0 none /dev/shm shm defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 / reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 /opt reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda3 /home reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda13 /backup ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda12 /archive reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda11 /projects reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda10 /import_export reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda14 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /u01 reiserfs user 0 0 /dev/hda7 /u02 reiserfs user 0 0 /dev/hda8 /u03 reiserfs user 0 0 /dev/hda9 /uo4 reiserfs user 0 0 [root@RSivernell rick]# cat /etc/mtab /dev/hda1 / reiserfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /proc /proc proc rw 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda5 /opt reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda3 /home reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 rw 0 0 /dev/hda13 /backup ext2 rw 0 0 /dev/hda12 /archive reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda11 /projects reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda10 /import_export reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda6 /u01 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda7 /u02 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda8 /u03 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda9 /uo4 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 RSivernell:(pid503) /auto nfs
cdrom help
List I am having continual problems with cdroms. I have the following scsi id 4 42x scsi cdrom scsi id 5 Yamaha 6x4x16 cdwriteronly one that seems to work all the time scsi id 6 scsi dat 4mm tape drive not a problem ow. hdc is a 52x ide cdrom drivethere on bootup but do anything and it disappears or hangs system I have set kernal line to hdc=ide-scsi, verify below. I get 3 icons on the desktop and most of the time they say they are mounted, cd drive cdwriter. I am not getting a stable cdrom operation all the time. Please correct me if I am wrong, I know you guys will g with pleasure. The system boots up and sees the true scsi as scd? and the ide as hd?. Thus the scd0 scd1 for my scsi cdrom drives, there are no scsi hard drives in this system, the ide-scsi as sr0. A mout point in /auto should be for /dev/cdrom - sr0 as cdrom, a second for /dev/cdwriter - /dev/scd0 as /auto/cdwriter, /dev/cddrive 2 - /dev/scd1 as /auto/cdrom2. What is going wrong, or do I need to provide more info. I have read the sxs @linux.nf. not quite sure here. hda is a 60g harddrive ide ile setups: [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/ta* | more lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Dec 21 03:23 /dev/tape - st0 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/cd* | more lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Jan 10 15:49 /dev/cdrom - sr1 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jan 12 10:55 /dev/cdrom2 - /dev/scd1 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root6 Dec 21 03:01 /dev/cdu31a - sonycd brw-rw-r-- 1 root disk24, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/cdu535 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Jan 12 10:59 /dev/cdwriter - sr0 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/sc* | more brw-rw-r--1 rick disk 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd0 brw-rw-r--1 root disk 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/scd1 [root@RSivernell rick]# ll /dev/sr* | more brw---1 rick root 11, 0 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr0 brw---1 rick disk 11, 1 Oct 11 13:07 /dev/sr1 [root@RSivernell rick]# cat /etc/fstab devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/cdwriter /mnt/sr0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/scd1 is09660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0 none /dev/shm shm defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 / reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 /opt reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda3 /home reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda13 /backup ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda12 /archive reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda11 /projects reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda10 /import_export reiserfs defaults 1 1 /dev/hda14 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /u01 reiserfs user 0 0 /dev/hda7 /u02 reiserfs user 0 0 /dev/hda8 /u03 reiserfs user 0 0 /dev/hda9 /uo4 reiserfs user 0 0 [root@RSivernell rick]# cat /etc/mtab /dev/hda1 / reiserfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /proc /proc proc rw 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda5 /opt reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda3 /home reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 rw 0 0 /dev/hda13 /backup ext2 rw 0 0 /dev/hda12 /archive reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda11 /projects reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda10 /import_export reiserfs rw 0 0 /dev/hda6 /u01 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda7 /u02 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda8 /u03 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda9 /uo4 reiserfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 RSivernell:(pid503) /auto nfs intr,rw,port=1023,timeo=8,retrans=110,indirect,map=/etc/am.d/localdev,dev=00 08 0 0 [root@RSivernell rick]# cat /boot/grub/menu.lst # # /boot/grub/menu.lst - generated by Lizard # # options timeout = 5 splashscreen = (hd0,1)/boot/message.col31 default = 0 title = Linux root = (hd0,1) kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.9-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1 hdc=ide-scsi initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.9.gz cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dhcp help, please...
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:33:22 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: [snip] I'll let someone else handle the first question. Also, what happens when the lease expires? Is a new lease automatically negotiated or do I have to manually intervene in some manner like restarting the firewall, etc. RFC 2131 should answer all your questions about how DHCP works (dhcprequest, dhcprelease, dhcpinform, dhcp..., etc.). Bottom line, unless you are blocking udp ports 67 and 68, all dhcp lease renewals are automagic. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dhcp help, please...
Jerry McBride wrote: I'm getting ready for the pending @home to @comcast change over and the biggest hurddle I have yet to make is implementing dhcp. I'm working with dhclient as supplied with workstation 3.1. From the commandline or a fresh boot I can get dhclient to negotiate with my isp for a new ip address and it'll even correctly write out a new /etc/resolv.conf file for me... Such magic. The dhcp hurddle I haven't quite cleared is understanding what I've done. Would someone point me to a really good FAQ or how-to for the dhclient included in workstation 3.1? Everything I've come across speaks of dhcpd... which I believe is different from what I'm working with. What you have is the software from the Internet Software Consortium. dhclient is the client half, what you need. dhcpd is the server half, what your ISP uses. There is another package called dhcpcd which is an alternative client. It probably isn't as flexible as dhclient (especially for dhcp 3.0 features), but it works well. I hear that the mailing lists are a little stuffy. The folks at ISC have been around long enough to develop an attitude. Perhaps it's even justified, they have been around a *long* time. Anyway, take a look at the man pages to start. dhclient will tell you the name of the config file, and the man page on it is pretty good. Take a look at what you have already and don't get bogged down in all the options. You should be ok at that point. Most of the settings like dns and lease times are set on the server. If you're *really* interested, there's a book on DHCP. It and various on-line resources are listed here: http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/ HTH, Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dhcp help, please...
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:46:59 -0700 Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry McBride wrote: ---snip--- The dhcp hurddle I haven't quite cleared is understanding what I've done. ---snip--- What you have is the software from the Internet Software Consortium. dhclient is the client half, what you need. dhcpd is the server half, what your ISP uses. That's my understanding also. Thanks for confirming it. It's really a pain to figure this stuff out as documentation is really sparse. All I really need to do at the moment is get the client half under my belt and get my lan sharing the inet resource over it. There is another package called dhcpcd which is an alternative client. I found it and decided early on to ignore it. From what I gleened from the few docs and info sources, it's not what I need. Thank you. I hear that the mailing lists are a little stuffy. ---snip--- Yeah, I've tasted the archives and... well.. I've got enough to deal with than to add them to my list. :') Anyway, take a look at the man pages to start. dhclient will tell you the name of the config file, and the man page on it is pretty good. I've printed the relavent pages and they do make for interesting reading. Take a look at what you have already and don't get bogged down in all the options. You should be ok at that point. Well... That's about what I've done. I've got the server reliably online via dhclient. I have to figure out how to get my fixed IP firewall to work correctly with dhcp. Could you give me a heads up if I need to set anything in dhclient.conf to allow for my intranet? Most of the settings like dns and lease times are set on the server. Yes. If you're *really* interested, there's a book on DHCP. It and various on-line resources are listed here: http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/ I'm debating on buying the dhcp book, but at $44.00 a copy it looks like a long debate. For now I'll be tracking down usenet, inet and faqs that relate to dhcp... I haven't found a tutorial or similar yet, but I haven't quit looking. For something that's as common as dhcp, it's amazing there's so little on it in beginners' documentation. After all, I wasn't born knowing it... :') Cheers and thank you very much for your post. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 2:55pm up 16:53, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: dhcp help, please...
Jerry McBride wrote: Well... That's about what I've done. I've got the server reliably online via dhclient. I have to figure out how to get my fixed IP firewall to work correctly with dhcp. Could you give me a heads up if I need to set anything in dhclient.conf to allow for my intranet? Hmmm. I'm not sure what your setup looks like. Most cable users have a gateway/firewall machine using dhcp to the ISP. That's the client running on the gateway box, to the outside. You could run a dhcp server (on the gateway or anywhere else on the inside) or not, up to you. I tend to run my own dhcpd inside, unless there's a reason not to for a particular machine. If you have specific questions or want to describe your network, feel free to ask. But the dhclient facing the ISP doesn't need anything special. I'm debating on buying the dhcp book, but at $44.00 a copy it looks like a long debate. For now I'll be tracking down usenet, inet and faqs that relate to dhcp... I haven't found a tutorial or similar yet, but I haven't quit looking. For something that's as common as dhcp, it's amazing there's so little on it in beginners' documentation. After all, I wasn't born knowing it... :') Well, the people who wrote the software wrote the book and provide consulting. So you've got the source, the man pages, and the RFCs. If that isn't enough, more will cost you. I don't think that's too unreasonable. But looking at many of the options I don't use (especially related to dynamic DNS and the new failover capability), I think there would be a lot of trial and error to get them working. Fortunately the simple case is adequate. (mostly OT) war story I was running dhcp off a dsl modem for a Win2k LAN (with a Linux domain controller). I eventually switched the dhcp server to the linux box (and gave it a static IP) for 2 reasons: - The modem's maximum lease time was short enough that unplugging it for a few minutes (reorganizing) would cause at least one Win2k to pick a new, default IP when its lease ran out. Since the default IP was unrelated to my subnet the machine would essentially stop networking. - There are some WINS settings that can be passed from the dhcp server that the modem didn't support (things like using a specific WINS server vs. broadcasting). /war story Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
broadcast2000 troubles, adsl help
Hello all, been a long time since i've been on the list. had to unsubscribe so i wouldn't get fired at work i have a few questions. i recently got dsl!!! yippy it is working great. the zyxel modem that earthlink sent also assigns ip addresses, so i got my 2 machines going thru it with a hub, instead of making a router/hub out of my linux box. the problem is, when i'm on the net i lose the connection after about a minute of no traffic. how can i increase this timeout to a half hour or so. i recently perchased suse 7.3 pro and loaded it on, everything was working good, TILL i did an online update. i also changed the security setting from custom to workstation. i have now changed them back as it locked some programs and such that i didn't want locked. anyway, i use broadcast2000 for audio editing for my church, and since i have done the security change (even tho i changed it back) and online update, i can't use the program anymore. i have tried to reload it, no worky. so i logged in as root and it works fine, so i checked permissions and even copied the bcast.rc file from the hidden dir to my users hidden dir to no avail. it still locks up the program as soon as i try to play a wav file. how do i get this program to work for the user again? next question,. when i log off kde, the mouse freezes in the middle of the screen, if i do a ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x, it works fine again till the next time i log off. any ideas on a fix? thanks alot everyone, steve thompson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
On Wednesday 12 December 2001 01:12, you wrote: Declan That was part of what I wanted. If I had th mobo pinout for comport ps2 connect (PI 133 mHz) AT mobo. I have gotten com 2 to see the mouse in Caldera 2.3, but X doesnot see it in 4.1.0.1 (3.1.1 EW). Just delete that filename from the link and you get the index page http://ftp.sunet.se/hwb/ I have a S3 Virge 4 meg card and X is having a failed to setup write combining range 0xe to 0x4 APM failed. I'm running a S3 Trio 8MB, but have used a S3 Virge 4MB myself in x 3.splash. Can't help you here. It sounds like a ram problem, or less ram on the card than you think, and it's trying to grab some outside. You hardly need 4 megs for 32 bit colour at 640x480. (Gets calculator out and mystifies himself - retires in defeat, changing the subject). You can find out what's going on with this line # startx xerrors 21 # less xerrors That'll give you a blow by blow Monitor is a emerson vga: 640x480 ( mode to use) Scanning Freq: Horizontal 31.5Khz Vertical60/70Hz Scanning Status Mode 1 720 Dots x 350 Lines Mode 2 720 Dots x 400 Lines Mode 3 640 Dots x 480 Lines Signal Input RGB/Analog Separate Dot pitch 0.41mm That monitor is CRAP! You're going to waste time worth the price of a new one tweaking things to live with that. | X do give me something but no use of mouse nothing to click on if the mouse did work. Can get xdm to display a set of buttons, no mouse so nothing happens. mouse set at protocal Microsoft device /dev/mouse -/dev/ttyS1 , this works with Calera 2.3. I do not however have the xf86config. If you need a XF86Config file, we'll get you one. Which version of X? I'm on the old stuff still (3.3.6 or something) Have you working ports? Is it the pinouts of the sockets on the mo/bo you're stuck for? There's a fairly standard ATX Form Factor plug for the back end, and apart from that, try the m/b manufacturer. You can them this from the FCC ID number. Every part let into the US has one, and you can look them up: (Don't ask me how or where) elinit 5 returns X config error and returns to rl 3. any Ideas, I can use text mode, but would like to use the kde consol. My approach would be to get some port singing, stick a mouse on that. Beware that sometimes you're expected to have gpm running, and sometimes (Like on this Mandrake system) there's a mouse server in X which doesn't require Gpm. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
Something funky about these rtl8139 cards and this particular I'm running some of these. I had some of the half-duplex trouble a while ago but they all run fine now. They're on monolithic kernels and they're autodetected fine, no need to pass any append= parameters... Memory fades, but afair, the 8139too drivers were buggy quite a ways through the 2.4.x series, at one point the -ac series seemed the better choice and did affect this issue. Also air, kernel config has an option to enable support for 'older' 8139's (I didn't) and the boot messages on mine say something to the effect of '8139b' (note the 'b') detected. Dunno if any of this matters, but fwiw... R ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
Declan Well I have just yesterday got all to work, well as best as the crappy S3 Virge card will. The card is bad in gui mode. The rats all do work now. I actually did pretyty much the same as your post, and that was most reassurring as to how I proceeded. Will replace the car very soon now. Never did like the S# Virge anyway. cheers Thanks -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:27:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I have followed the thread on forcing my NIC to run full duplex. I have tried all of those suggestions to no avail. I have SuSE 7.3 Pro installed on my desktop w/KDE-2.2.2, and Mantel's 2.4.16-4GB-14. Using mii-tool I get 10 bit half duplex no link. If I boot the same machine under COL 3.1 w/ 2.4.4 kernel and KDE 2.1.1, mii-tool shows the card running @ 100 mb full duplex. The card is an SMC1244TX (realtek 8139c chipset). Whatis interfering under SuSE? Is the realtek module buggy in 7.3? I have it set as eth0 rtl8139 in /etc/modules.conf. Perhaps it's an old realtec nic driver holding you back? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 6:40am up 10 days, 17:41, 3 users, load average: 0.42, 0.35, 0.28 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
Jerry, It is the latest included with the 2.4.16 kernel. I do have a CD with instructions on compiling the driver for linux that came with the card. It is dated 6/1999. Should I compile it and see if it works? Regards, Keith B. Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:27:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I have followed the thread on forcing my NIC to run full duplex. I have tried all of those suggestions to no avail. I have SuSE 7.3 Pro installed on my desktop w/KDE-2.2.2, and Mantel's 2.4.16-4GB-14. Using mii-tool I get 10 bit half duplex no link. If I boot the same machine under COL 3.1 w/ 2.4.4 kernel and KDE 2.1.1, mii-tool shows the card running @ 100 mb full duplex. The card is an SMC1244TX (realtek 8139c chipset). Whatis interfering under SuSE? Is the realtek module buggy in 7.3? I have it set as eth0 rtl8139 in /etc/modules.conf. Perhaps it's an old realtec nic driver holding you back? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 6:40am up 10 days, 17:41, 3 users, load average: 0.42, 0.35, 0.28 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:19:25 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, It is the latest included with the 2.4.16 kernel. I do have a CD with instructions on compiling the driver for linux that came with the card. It is dated 6/1999. Should I compile it and see if it works? It's worth a try, but it being a realtec, I would have thought the kernel included drivers would be enough. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 5:55pm up 11 days, 4:56, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
Jerry, I finally just gave up and purchased a NetGear FA310TX fast ethernet card from Micro Center on sale for $14.99. It uses the tulip driver and upon installation, I am now running 100 mbps FD without forcing it to. Something funky about these rtl8139 cards and this particular box, no trouble with any 7.2 boxen. Best regards and thanks, Keith B. Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:19:25 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, It is the latest included with the 2.4.16 kernel. I do have a CD with instructions on compiling the driver for linux that came with the card. It is dated 6/1999. Should I compile it and see if it works? It's worth a try, but it being a realtec, I would have thought the kernel included drivers would be enough. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 5:55pm up 11 days, 4:56, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:50:08 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, I finally just gave up and purchased a NetGear FA310TX fast ethernet card from Micro Center on sale for $14.99. It uses the tulip driver and upon installation, I am now running 100 mbps FD without forcing it to. Something funky about these rtl8139 cards and this particular box, no trouble with any 7.2 boxen. You feel like sending me the card? I'll see if I can get it to run, then send it back with appropriate instructions. Over here, we bought just about every UNWANTED Linksys lne100tx nic's we could find at dirt cheap prices... Everybody hated the things and once it was known that we wanted them... they popped out of everywhere. I even got a bunch for nothing... All that was needed was the correct driver. Linksys distributed the early nic's with a linux driver that didn't work. Needless to say, they work quite well. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 9:30pm up 11 days, 8:31, 3 users, load average: 0.37, 0.21, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:28:56 -0800 (PST) Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, I finally just gave up and purchased a NetGear FA310TX fast ethernet card from Micro Center on sale for $14.99. It uses the tulip driver and upon installation, I am now running 100 mbps FD without forcing it to. Something funky about these rtl8139 cards and this particular box, no trouble with any 7.2 boxen. This topic had gotten me interested last night and started to research it. Couldn't make heads or tails about the correct options to pass to modprobe to do the full-duplex/100mb thingie. And what about those of us with monolithic kernels? -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:48:16 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:28:56 -0800 (PST) Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, I finally just gave up and purchased a NetGear FA310TX fast ethernet card from Micro Center on sale for $14.99. It uses the tulip driver and upon installation, I am now running 100 mbps FD without forcing it to. Something funky about these rtl8139 cards and this particular box, no trouble with any 7.2 boxen. This topic had gotten me interested last night and started to research it. Couldn't make heads or tails about the correct options to pass to modprobe to do the full-duplex/100mb thingie. And what about those of us with monolithic kernels? Uhhh append= you fill in the blanks... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 10:25pm up 11 days, 9:26, 3 users, load average: 0.59, 0.66, 0.76 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Re: HELP!! - NIC won't run full duplex
Jerry, Sure. But the interesting thing is they DO work with the SuSE 2.4.4-4GB kernel using the EXACT same driver. Tell me where you want me to send it. BTW,it is a new realtek card from SMC. Regards, Keith Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:50:08 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, I finally just gave up and purchased a NetGear FA310TX fast ethernet card from Micro Center on sale for $14.99. It uses the tulip driver and upon installation, I am now running 100 mbps FD without forcing it to. Something funky about these rtl8139 cards and this particular box, no trouble with any 7.2 boxen. You feel like sending me the card? I'll see if I can get it to run, then send it back with appropriate instructions. Over here, we bought just about every UNWANTED Linksys lne100tx nic's we could find at dirt cheap prices... Everybody hated the things and once it was known that we wanted them... they popped out of everywhere. I even got a bunch for nothing... All that was needed was the correct driver. Linksys distributed the early nic's with a linux driver that didn't work. Needless to say, they work quite well. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 9:30pm up 11 days, 8:31, 3 users, load average: 0.37, 0.21, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
now, what would be helpfull if any body has them are the serial port ps/2 mouse diagrams, power setting or etc. Ay help is appreciated. Could not find on the Net. There is no 'standard' pinout for ps/2 motherboard connections. *Generally* they are an 8 pin single in line effort with pin 7 missing, to which you add the made up backwall connector, but they vary greatly. The 2x8 pin serial connector however is almost always a 1:1 flat ribbon connector to the DB9 (pin16 is ignored). Simply line up the red stripe on the flat ribbon to 'pin 1' on the motherboard. 'pin 1' will be a marker of some sort that makes that corner of the 2x8 rectangle look different, a dent, a mark, something distinguishing. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 14:29, you wrote: now, what would be helpfull if any body has them are the serial port ps/2 mouse diagrams, power setting or etc. Ay help is appreciated. Could not find on the Net. Did you check Tom's Hardware book? (Tom Enghald that is). If Mozilla finishes booting this session, I'll get you a link from the bookmarks... Wait - it's going to do something soon - (later) There We Are!! http://ftp.sunet.se/hwb/co_PS2Mouse.html I used this and it worked first time. Can't say more than that. Well, I can. How the (expletive deleted) do I get Bugzilla's bookmarks into Opera? -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. There is no 'standard' pinout for ps/2 motherboard connections. *Generally* they are an 8 pin single in line effort with pin 7 missing, to which you add the made up backwall connector, but they vary greatly. The 2x8 pin serial connector however is almost always a 1:1 flat ribbon connector to the DB9 (pin16 is ignored). Simply line up the red stripe on the flat ribbon to 'pin 1' on the motherboard. 'pin 1' will be a marker of some sort that makes that corner of the 2x8 rectangle look different, a dent, a mark, something distinguishing. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
I use this site for pinouts. It may have other useful info also. http://csgrad.cs.vt.edu/~tjohnson/pinouts/ Declan Moriarty declan.moriarty@ntTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lworld.ie cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: rat help linux-users-admin@l inux.nf 12/11/2001 11:38 AM Please respond to linux-users On Tuesday 11 December 2001 14:29, you wrote: now, what would be helpfull if any body has them are the serial port ps/2 mouse diagrams, power setting or etc. Ay help is appreciated. Could not find on the Net. Did you check Tom's Hardware book? (Tom Enghald that is). If Mozilla finishes booting this session, I'll get you a link from the bookmarks... Wait - it's going to do something soon - (later) There We Are!! http://ftp.sunet.se/hwb/co_PS2Mouse.html I used this and it worked first time. Can't say more than that. Well, I can. How the (expletive deleted) do I get Bugzilla's bookmarks into Opera? -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. There is no 'standard' pinout for ps/2 motherboard connections. *Generally* they are an 8 pin single in line effort with pin 7 missing, to which you add the made up backwall connector, but they vary greatly. The 2x8 pin serial connector however is almost always a 1:1 flat ribbon connector to the DB9 (pin16 is ignored). Simply line up the red stripe on the flat ribbon to 'pin 1' on the motherboard. 'pin 1' will be a marker of some sort that makes that corner of the 2x8 rectangle look different, a dent, a mark, something distinguishing. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
Declan That was part of what I wanted. If I had th mobo pinout for comport ps2 connect (PI 133 mHz) AT mobo. I have gotten com 2 to see the mouse in Caldera 2.3, but X doesnot see it in 4.1.0.1 (3.1.1 EW). I have a S3 Virge 4 meg card and X is having a failed to setup write combining range 0xe to 0x4 APM failed. Monitor is a emerson vga: 640x480 ( mode to use) Scanning Freq: Horizontal 31.5Khz Vertical60/70Hz Scanning Status Mode 1 720 Dots x 350 Lines Mode 2 720 Dots x 400 Lines Mode 3 640 Dots x 480 Lines Signal Input RGB/Analog Separate Dot pitch 0.41mm -- X do give me something but no use of mouse nothing to click on if the mouse did work. Can get xdm to display a set of buttons, no mouse so nothing happens. mouse set at protocal Microsoft device /dev/mouse -/dev/ttyS1 , this works with Calera 2.3. I do not however have the xf86config. elinit 5 returns X config error and returns to rl 3. any Ideas, I can use text mode, but would like to use the kde consol. mobo PI-133, make unknown 64 m Mem S3 Virge GX 4 m Mem no sound Realtek lan 10/100 Lan 14 Emerson monitor cheers Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help ot
[ snips ] On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:38:49 + Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Mozilla finishes booting this session, I'll get you a link from the bookmarks... Wait - it's going to do something soon ... Yep, I got very tired of waiting for mozilla (or netscape or konqueror) to load; that's (one reason at least) why I'm sticking with galeon. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre6+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
On Monday 03 December 2001 22:04, you wrote: Hi List I need a bit of help here. I have scournged a PI 133 Mhz board cpu. I have been able to install ew 3.1 and works fine except no mouse. I have tried both com1 com2 with a ps/2 mouse adaptor. I have 2 rats here, one track ball from Logitek, I use this with all my systems, a M$ intellimouse scroller. Both are operational on other systems. the mobo has a usb port and a 8 pin dual inline connector, unmarked. I have tried everything I know other than buying another serial rat, no money here, out of work now, what would be helpfull if any body has them are the serial port ps/2 mouse diagrams, power setting or etc. Ay help is appreciated. Could not find on the Net. Been here, done this, got the T-shirt :-) 1. Make sure the node is correct: Here's mine [root@genius /root]# ls -l /dev/mouse lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Aug 4 17:27 /dev/mouse - psaux [root@genius /root]# ls -l /dev/psaux crw-rw1 root root 10, 1 Dec 4 08:17 /dev/psaux Mine's mandrake (like Red Hat). Other systems may use different names for the ps/2 port. Beware also of the spelling of ps2; I think gpm accepts PS/2 or ps2 only. 2. Read a bit in 'man gpm' - punishment I know, but it's worth it 3. Try with dd # dd if=short_file of=/dev/mouse bs=100 count=1 If it says 'no such device' rebuild your kernel (yes!) and put in ps/2 support Correct response is to say 1 + 1 records in 1 + 1 records out or something like that 4. Type # dd if=/dev/mouse of=/dev/null bs=100 count=1, but get the mouse moving before you hit return. 5. Vary 3 4 above to find out if you can where the mouse or the error is (e.g. try /dev/mouse, /dev/psaux, /dev/ttyS0, /dev/ttyS1, etc) Keep us informed. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help
David It appears that the bios must support ps/2 mouse to get it working. I set the com ports to auto IRQ's. No go. I will try a serial port rat if I find one for a buck or so. Many thanks, I will try to serve some of the finest Virtual brew around this weekend. Many rounds to you of course g. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rat help - P.S.
--- Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2001 08:53, you wrote: On Monday 03 December 2001 22:04, you wrote: Hi List I need a bit of help here. I have scournged a PI 133 Mhz board cpu. I have been able to install ew 3.1 and works fine except no mouse. I have tried both com1 com2 with a ps/2 mouse adaptor. I have 2 rats here, one track ball from Logitek, I use this with all my systems, a M$ intellimouse scroller. Both are operational on other systems. the mobo has a usb port and a 8 pin dual inline connector, unmarked. I have tried everything I know other than buying another serial rat, no money here, out of work On the adaptor. Beware of them. Not all adaptors are the same - I found this out the hard way. I had an old IBM mouse which would not work with an AMI wheel mouse adaptor, which would work on every machine except the one I needed it for. Also, be weary of the mouse protocol that you're using in X. I used a serial mouse a while back, and it took quite a bit of trial error with the different mouse protocols before I found one that worked right. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
rat help
Hi List I need a bit of help here. I have scournged a PI 133 Mhz board cpu. I have been able to install ew 3.1 and works fine except no mouse. I have tried both com1 com2 with a ps/2 mouse adaptor. I have 2 rats here, one track ball from Logitek, I use this with all my systems, a M$ intellimouse scroller. Both are operational on other systems. the mobo has a usb port and a 8 pin dual inline connector, unmarked. I have tried everything I know other than buying another serial rat, no money here, out of work now, what would be helpfull if any body has them are the serial port ps/2 mouse diagrams, power setting or etc. Ay help is appreciated. Could not find on the Net. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Help with Samba Domain Logins
Agreed, unless you have a small internal network like mine and just need to get it going. For secure networks, you absolutely want to configure more security and use encrypted passwords. On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:01:52 -0800 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 22 November 2001 07:33 am, Susan Macchia wrote: Ok, first I got rid of the use of encrypted passwords on my Win2k box. To do this, on your Win2k box run regedit. When the window opens pick (from the left panel): HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-SYSTEM-CurrentControlSet-Services-lanmanworkstation- parameters In the right panel select: enableplaintextpassword Press the right mouse button and choose modify, setting the value to 0x1. Wouldn't the more security-wise approach be to turn on encryption in smb.conf? It's also a hell of a lot easier to change one line in your samba box than 100+ Windoze registries. Ciao, David A. Bandel = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Help with Samba Domain Logins
Ian, I have successfully gotten Samba 2.2.1 to work with Win2k and SuSE 7.3. I am sure that it is similar to RH. I used the Samba How-to to get going (http://www.linux.com/howto/SMB-HOWTO.html#toc7). I had to transition what I had on COL2.4/RH 7.0 which had older versions of Samba connected to Win98. Initially I just needed to share printers, but decided to also share some directories publicly and via log-in. Ok, first I got rid of the use of encrypted passwords on my Win2k box. To do this, on your Win2k box run regedit. When the window opens pick (from the left panel): HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-SYSTEM-CurrentControlSet-Services-lanmanworkstation-parameters In the right panel select: enableplaintextpassword Press the right mouse button and choose modify, setting the value to 0x1. Now, I had the same user accounts on both machines, but my printers and public directories allow guests (so my kids don't have accounts on my linux box). I created an account for the guest (smbuser). I didn't touch /etc/samba/smbpasswd, but did add the following to /etc/samba/smbusers: root = administrator admin nobody = guest pcguest smbguest I also added the following to /etc/samba/lmhosts, after the localhost line (but I don't know if I needed to): 192.168.1.101 Windows That is the IP for my Win2k box. I also created /home/public open to everyone in the user group. Below is my smb.conf: ### [global] workgroup = MACCHIA server string = Samba Server on SuSE 7.3 os level = 2 kernel oplocks = No security = user printing = LPRNG printcap name = /etc/printcap load printers = Yes wins support = No guest account = smbuser map to guest = Bad Password [homes] comment = Home Directories read only = No create mask = 0640 directory mask = 0750 browseable = no write list = @users [public] comment = Public Stuff path = /home/public read only = No public = yes writable = yes printable = no browseable = Yes guest ok = true write list = @users [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/tmp create mask = 0600 printable = Yes browseable = No ### Notice that only [public] is browsable and has guest ok = true. This keeps my kids out of my home directories. Anyone can print from the windows box but not everyone can browse homes. And public is browseable but only those users in the users group on linux can modify the contents. I am not 100% sure that I understand everything here because there is some wierdness in browsing the home shares that I am confused about. For example, lets say my Linux machine name is Susan and I have a /home/sue on the linux box with a login/password: sue/foo. Lets say I also have /home/bob with a login/password of bob/bar. On the win2k box I have the same login/password combos. When I log in to the win2k box as, say sue, in the explorer (EntireNetwork-MicrosoftWindowsNetwork-Macchia-Susan-sue) is visible. When I select it I get prompted for the login/password and after entering it, I can browse and write to the directory). Ok this makes sense. Then if I log in as bob, in the explorer I see both 'bob' AND 'sue'. If I choose either one and enter any valid linux/win user/pwd combo, I can browse and write to BOTH of these directories. Maybe, this make sense in light of the [homes] section. I have played with this a little and if I create specific shares writable by specifc log-ins, then I may see both sue and bob, but cannot browse/write to both. Hope this helps. And if anyone finds this useful, let me know and I'll add to my existing SxS on printing w/ Samba. Ian Marchak wrote: Server: RH 7.1, with Samba built from a RH 7.2 SRPM Version 2.2.1a: Client: Win2k I created user accounts both samba and unix. I created machine accounts in /etc/passwd and /etc/samba/smbpasswd. The machine I am trying this from is in /etc/hosts. I have successfully logged in from a win9X client. (different machine) But I cannot seem to get this to work from Win2K. When I attempt to connect I get a something like invalid user name or password error. = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Help with Samba Domain Logins
On Thursday 22 November 2001 07:33 am, Susan Macchia wrote: Ok, first I got rid of the use of encrypted passwords on my Win2k box. To do this, on your Win2k box run regedit. When the window opens pick (from the left panel): HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-SYSTEM-CurrentControlSet-Services-lanmanworkstation- parameters In the right panel select: enableplaintextpassword Press the right mouse button and choose modify, setting the value to 0x1. Wouldn't the more security-wise approach be to turn on encryption in smb.conf? David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Help with Samba Domain Logins
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:01:52 -0800 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 22 November 2001 07:33 am, Susan Macchia wrote: Ok, first I got rid of the use of encrypted passwords on my Win2k box. To do this, on your Win2k box run regedit. When the window opens pick (from the left panel): HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-SYSTEM-CurrentControlSet-Services-lanmanworkstation- parameters In the right panel select: enableplaintextpassword Press the right mouse button and choose modify, setting the value to 0x1. Wouldn't the more security-wise approach be to turn on encryption in smb.conf? It's also a hell of a lot easier to change one line in your samba box than 100+ Windoze registries. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. --Nemesis Air Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Need help to set up IMAP-server
Hello I've been trying to get imap working on my SuSE 7.1 (home)mailserver, without success. I've tried the 'general (University of Washington)' imap daemon that came with SuSE and Cyrus-IMAP. Neither of them worked. The Cyrus package also had a pop3 daemon which doesn't work either. I can telnet to localhost 110 and 443 and I see the Cyrus greeting. When I say (to the POP3) USER gvs PASS [password] I get login failed. The IMAPD doesn't work either, I used . LOGIN gvs [password] It seems unable to authenticate any user. The qpopper daemon works fine. I read the HOWTO about Cyrus-IMAP, but I can't find what I'm doing wrong. I hope someone can help me. Kind regards Guy __ Get Your FREE FlashMail Address now at http://www.flashmail.com It's Free, Easy, Fun !!! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Help with Samba Domain Logins
Server: RH 7.1, with Samba built from a RH 7.2 SRPM Version 2.2.1a: Client: Win2k I created user accounts both samba and unix. I created machine accounts in /etc/passwd and /etc/samba/smbpasswd. The machine I am trying this from is in /etc/hosts. I have successfully logged in from a win9X client. (different machine) But I cannot seem to get this to work from Win2K. When I attempt to connect I get a something like invalid user name or password error. So I checked my samba logs, and found: (removed date and time from logs for brevity) # [datetime, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:startsmbfilepwent_internal(87) startsmbfilepwent_internal: unable to open file /etc/samba/smbpasswd. Error was Permission denied [dt, 0] passdb/smbpass.c:iterate_getsmbpwuid(1240) unable to open smb password database. [dt, 2] smbd/server.c:exit_server(448) Closing connections [dt, 2] smbd/server.c:exit_server(448) Closing connections # I checked the perms on /etc/samba/smbpasswd and just to see if it would help, I noted the existing perms and changed the file to 777. However, samba simply set the permissions back to '-rw' for root only, and spit the same message again. I have confirmed that the passwords are all the same from smbpassword and /etc/password, read s#!tloads or samba.org docs and so on, but have had no luck as yet. So, if anyone out there has successfully implemented samba and win2k hosts out there, (which according to what I have read is possible) please shed some light on where I've gone wrong here. I'm stumped. -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Alias help with httpd.conf
Hi, I'm trying to set up an Alias in my httpd.conf file that'll allow me to redirect a request for my_URL/calendar to my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal so that if I try to access my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi, I get the WebCal calendar selection script. I've made these entries in my httpd.conf file: Alias /calendar /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal Directory /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI /Directory When I type in my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi I'm presented with the text of the webcal.cgi perl script. When I type in my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal/webcal.cgi the script executes and I'm presented with the calendar selection screen. What must I do to get the script to execute when called with my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi? Ultimately, I want to be able to type my_URL/calendar and get presented with the calendar selection screen. Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Alias help with httpd.conf
Tim Wunder jabbered: Hi, I'm trying to set up an Alias in my httpd.conf file that'll allow me to redirect a request for my_URL/calendar to my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal so that if I try to access my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi, I get the WebCal calendar selection script. I've made these entries in my httpd.conf file: Alias /calendar /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal Directory /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI /Directory When I type in my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi I'm presented with the text of the webcal.cgi perl script. When I type in my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal/webcal.cgi the script executes and I'm presented with the calendar selection screen. What must I do to get the script to execute when called with my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi? Ultimately, I want to be able to type my_URL/calendar and get presented with the calendar selection screen. Look at the ScriptAlias directive. You can also enable CGI on a per directory basis using a Directory/Directory block. For example: Directory /home/*public_html/cgi-bin Options +ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script Directory This enable CGI scripts in user home directories. You need an appropriate AddHandler directive elsewhere in httpd.conf. However, enabling mortal users to run CGI scripts poses a significant security risk. Kurt -- I wonder if I ought to tell them about my PREVIOUS LIFE as a COMPLETE STRANGER? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Alias help with httpd.conf
Hi Kurt, Kurt Wall wrote: Tim Wunder jabbered: Hi, I'm trying to set up an Alias in my httpd.conf file that'll allow me to redirect a request for my_URL/calendar to my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal so that if I try to access my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi, I get the WebCal calendar selection script. I've made these entries in my httpd.conf file: Alias /calendar /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal Directory /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI /Directory When I type in my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi I'm presented with the text of the webcal.cgi perl script. When I type in my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal/webcal.cgi the script executes and I'm presented with the calendar selection screen. What must I do to get the script to execute when called with my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi? Ultimately, I want to be able to type my_URL/calendar and get presented with the calendar selection screen. Look at the ScriptAlias directive. You can also enable CGI on a per directory basis using a Directory/Directory block. I have a ScriptAlias cgi-bin /home/httpd/cgi-bin line in my httpd.conf, do I need another for the non-existent, aliased, /calender directory? I've tried ScriptAlias cgi-bin /calendar, but that had no effect, so I deleted it. I thought I did enable CGI in a Directory/Directory block with Directory /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI /Directory Do I need to do it for the non-existent /calendar directory that's Aliased?... I just tried changing /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal to /calendar in that section, but it had no effect, so I changed it back. For example: Directory /home/*public_html/cgi-bin Options +ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script Directory This enable CGI scripts in user home directories. You need an appropriate AddHandler directive elsewhere in httpd.conf. However, enabling mortal users to run CGI scripts poses a significant security risk. So, if I uncomment the AddHandler cgi-script .cgi line, it'll work? Let me try that... Yes, that works. The cgi script executes. But, that apparently is a risky way? What, exactly is the significant security risk? Is it an external risk, or internal risk? The users on the system are just the family (the wife, 2 sons, and me). None of us are likely to create any elaborate cgi scripts...(maybe the teenager...) BTW, I did not add the Directory section you list above. The only change I made to what I had orignally is that I added the Addhandler line. Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Alias help with httpd.conf
Tim Wunder wrote: Hi Kurt, 'owdy, Kurt Wall wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up an Alias in my httpd.conf file that'll allow me to redirect a request for my_URL/calendar to my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal so that if I try to access my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi, I get the WebCal calendar selection script. I've made these entries in my httpd.conf file: Alias /calendar /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal Directory /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI /Directory When I type in my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi I'm presented with the text of the webcal.cgi perl script. When I type in my_URL/cgi-bin/webcal/webcal.cgi the script executes and I'm presented with the calendar selection screen. What must I do to get the script to execute when called with my_URL/calendar/webcal.cgi? Ultimately, I want to be able to type my_URL/calendar and get presented with the calendar selection screen. Look at the ScriptAlias directive. You can also enable CGI on a per directory basis using a Directory/Directory block. I have a ScriptAlias cgi-bin /home/httpd/cgi-bin line in my httpd.conf, do I need another for the non-existent, aliased, /calender directory? I've tried ScriptAlias cgi-bin /calendar, but that had no effect, so I deleted it. The syntax is ScriptAlias /the/fake/dir /the/real/dir. So, try: ScriptAlias /calendar /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal I thought I did enable CGI in a Directory/Directory block with Directory /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI /Directory The issue here is that you have to tell Apache that /calendar is both an alias for /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal and, in particular, an alias that points at CGI scripts, hence the ScriptAlias directive. So, if I uncomment the AddHandler cgi-script .cgi line, it'll work? Let me try that... Correct. Yes, that works. The cgi script executes. But, that apparently is a risky way? What, exactly is the significant security risk? Is it an external risk, or internal risk? The users on the system are just the family (the wife, 2 sons, and me). None of us are likely to create any elaborate cgi scripts...(maybe the teenager...) CGI is inherently risky, regardless of *who* runs them. In your case, if external users can't execute them, you probably have little with with to concern yourself. Kurt -- Many a wife thinks her husband is the world's greatest lover. But she can never catch him at it. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Alias help with httpd.conf
Kurt Wall wrote: Tim Wunder wrote: Hi Kurt, 'owdy, snip The syntax is ScriptAlias /the/fake/dir /the/real/dir. So, try: ScriptAlias /calendar /home/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal Perfect! Added that ScriptAlias (guessing at syntax is always harder than knowing it), added webcal.cgi to my DirectoryIndex and it works as desired. You're a good man. I don't believe half the things they say about you, and the other half are all lies... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
