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+1 on the logo contest. We have not got a response from legal. I think we need to go on to our best knowledge. I am going to dig the recent messages on this topic now and send a compiled proposal with my next emssage. Cheers On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 17, 2013, at 22:36, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. Can we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA release. I'd love to see a logo contest. I do not see why we should rush the release. There are areas of the code base that I've never even explored in depth but that plan on looking at. I would feel more confident to say that the whole pile is fully baked then. Right now I think Ralph is the only person with deep knowledge everywhere. I know the quality is good and because of that I am using it in a new project, beta label and all. Nick On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Sorry to say, not so far. VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't heard back. Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: Christian, Any update from your brand discussions? Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013,
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
I think rush is a bit of a stretch. I've been working on this for 4 years now and we have been doing beta releases for a year. I don't mean any offense, but I don't believe you being familiar with the whole code base is a requirement for a GA release. To be honest, I haven't spent much time looking at the async support Remko added. The fact that you and I are willing to use it in production says a lot about whether it is GA quality. Ralph On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Jul 17, 2013, at 22:36, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. Can we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA release. I'd love to see a logo contest. I do not see why we should rush the release. There are areas of the code base that I've never even explored in depth but that plan on looking at. I would feel more confident to say that the whole pile is fully baked then. Right now I think Ralph is the only person with deep knowledge everywhere. I know the quality is good and because of that I am using it in a new project, beta label and all. Nick On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Sorry to say, not so far. VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't heard back. Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: Christian, Any update from your brand discussions? Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos
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My +1s below aside, let's not get off topic. Can someone get the JIRA created and the announcement posted to the site and lists so that we can get this party started? :-) Nick On Jul 18, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: I think rush is a bit of a stretch. +1 I've been working on this for 4 years now and we have been doing beta releases for a year. +Integer.MAX_VALUE I don't mean any offense, but I don't believe you being familiar with the whole code base is a requirement for a GA release. +1 To be honest, I haven't spent much time looking at the async support Remko added. The fact that you and I are willing to use it in production says a lot about whether it is GA quality. +10 Ralph On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Jul 17, 2013, at 22:36, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. Can we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA release. I'd love to see a logo contest. I do not see why we should rush the release. There are areas of the code base that I've never even explored in depth but that plan on looking at. I would feel more confident to say that the whole pile is fully baked then. Right now I think Ralph is the only person with deep knowledge everywhere. I know the quality is good and because of that I am using it in a new project, beta label and all. Nick On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Sorry to say, not so far. VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't heard back. Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: Christian, Any update from your brand discussions? Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. Can we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA release. Nick On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Sorry to say, not so far. VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't heard back. Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: Christian, Any update from your brand discussions? Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place,
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On Jul 17, 2013, at 22:36, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: Guys, it's been six weeks since we last discussed this. Several of us are pushing to get Log4j2 released GA next month or very early in September. Can we get this moving? It'd be great to have the new logo for the GA release. I'd love to see a logo contest. I do not see why we should rush the release. There are areas of the code base that I've never even explored in depth but that plan on looking at. I would feel more confident to say that the whole pile is fully baked then. Right now I think Ralph is the only person with deep knowledge everywhere. I know the quality is good and because of that I am using it in a new project, beta label and all. Nick On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Sorry to say, not so far. VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't heard back. Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.comwrote: Christian, Any update from your brand discussions? Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.comwrote: I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
Sorry to say, not so far. VP Branding (Shane) has requested a few things from lawyers but I haven't heard back. Basically I would not say, lets get on with this anyway. We should maybe asked for an ICLA from the designer. This should cover things, I guess. Also I'm +1 on Jira for submissions. On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.comwrote: Christian, Any update from your brand discussions? Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.comwrote: I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay
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FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary
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AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June
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I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your
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Christian, Any update from your brand discussions? Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.comwrote: I like just using Jira to track the images. It's simple and we have it. Gary On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: AFAIK we don't have an svn that anyone can commit to. We could probably use git though. The alternative would be to create a Jira and have people upload their images to it. Ralph On May 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: FWIW, I ran into this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/svn-logos/README.html Gary On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion,
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On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? The approach is usually different. Gimp creates pixel based artwork but it cannot work with Vector based art. To create that you need a tool like Adobe Illustrator or the free software Inkscape: inkscape.org I use Inkscape and love it very much. If you created a vector based artwork, you are usually exporting it to a rasterized format like PNG. Vectors have the benefit that it can be sized into any dimension while Gimp files need to be very huge to make smaller portions of them. Of course, if you plan to make them bigger (for print publications maybe) you almost never have chance, because the quality is often to bad. If we don't set requirements, people will send PSD files. I don't know many people who use Gimp. Actually I don't use it, I prefer to pay a few bucks for Pixelmator, because Gimp is so... well. I don't like it. With the experience of ApacheCon in my head, where it was freaking difficult to get the project logos in proper size for creating the entrance banner, I really would prefer vector formats. Unlike PSD it is an open format. Gimp is open too, but its really easier to work with SVG once its created. Maybe we get less submissions, but I would accept that. We don't know what we will do with the logo one day. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory -- http://www.grobmeier.de
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So everyone who subscribes to one of the mailing lists gets a vote? Sounds good to me. I'm okay with Gary's date. I'm sure it'll still take a while to dot the i's and cross the t's... From: Nicholas Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net To: Log4J Developers List log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site Sounds good to me, for the most part. But perhaps a sooner date? I think it would be nice if the new logo was in place by then. It seems (to me, anyway) that we are very close to general availability. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos On May 11, 2013, at 20:39, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com/ Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
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I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
I'm good with asking for SVG. Makes sense. N On May 12, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
SVG might not be easy to produce for some people. For example, I just created a logo in Gimp using one of their predefined scripts and I do not see how to export it to SVG. We can ask for SVG as the preferred format but let's not make that a requirement. What do you guys use to create SVG files? Gary On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: actually I would prefer SVG (vector based) as we can have it in all sizes then - good for banners, t-shirts and so on. At least we should have access to a gimp file - we need to keep it open On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Nick Williams nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net wrote: I agree PNG preferred. I also think we should require a higher-resolution format (say, 600x600 or something like that) with instructions that it should also look good scaled down to ___ (whatever the target resolution is). That way we have a high-resolution logo if ever needed (like, for example, in the manual PDF) without having to scale it up. I also recommend some kind of standard naming convention for logos attached to the JIRA. Perhaps: lastname-firstname-logo01.extension Where the numbers following the word logo represent which number it is that person has submitted. Just my thoughts. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: I think the preferred format should be PNG. If you use Gimp, then also provide the XCF source file. A note should be made that if a proprietary editor is used, then that will make it harder for us to use. We can note that adding a small TM is preferred but not required since once will be added by us if missing. WRT size we could suggest that erring on the large size is better since scaling down is easy but scaling up might leave some ugly artifacts. Gary On May 12, 2013, at 1:16, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Editionhttp://www.manning.com/bauer3/ JUnit in Action, Second Edition http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/ Spring Batch in Action http://www.manning.com/templier/ Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
Sounds good to me, for the most part. But perhaps a sooner date? I think it would be nice if the new logo was in place by then. It seems (to me, anyway) that we are very close to general availability. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos On May 11, 2013, at 20:39, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Editionhttp://www.manning.com/bauer3/ JUnit in Action, Second Edition http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/ Spring Batch in Action http://www.manning.com/templier/ Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site
Hello, I am currently discussing with VP Brand how we safely can accept a logo. Not sure how long it takes, but advise should be given soon. I would like to have that instructions in place, before we send out any mails or start the contest. Also I was drafting logo specifications on the trademarks list. I will revive this coming week and would like to suggest this here too. Its more or less: which format? which resolution? and so on. Hope thats ok when we delay this a couple more days! But I am glad the idea of a new logo found support :-) Cheers Christian On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: [PROPOSAL for the text of an email and front page of the site] Log4j 2 logo contest Log4j 2 will be a major new version of Log4j. To mark this occasion, Log4j 2 will use a new logo. We would like to open participation to the community to create this new logo. Attach your entries to the Jira http://... Each person can submit more than one logo. Submissions will be accepted until [I pulled this one out of a hat] June 30, 2013. The PMC will then call for a vote on the user and dev mailing lists. You must submit your entries under the Apache License version 2.0. The Log4j team. --- Thoughts? Gary -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
