Re: in town 28-30 nov - emergency meetup?

2014-11-21 Thread the hatter

On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:


"David" == David Cantrell  writes:


David> Because people don't go to pubs to mess about on laptops, and in any
David> case 3G and 4G are ubiquitous and cheap.

Not for us furriners.


For anyone who's here for more than a day or two, it's invariably worth 
picking up a free PAYG sim, either for their main unlocked mobile (if you 
don't mind missing your main number while using it), or for their unlocked 
mifi-type gadget, or for a spare cheapie gsm mobile.  Many small outlets 
can also be found to network-unlock phones for £5-1, it's legal and 
common over here.


After that, there's no need to rely on either hotel or public wifi, just 
tether or connect over wifi to your phone/mifi, and stick a tenner or so 
on each visit.  There's no residency, contract or proof of ID requirements 
to buy a contractless SIM or phone in the UK.  SIMs can be bought from 
from shiny telco shops, news agents, ebay, supermarkets, etc.  Credit will 
expire after a short while (1-3 months generally) but they don't tend to 
disable the SIM even if it's not used for a couple of years.


Or you may even find a friendly local who can lend you a sim or mifi for 
the duration.



the hatter

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Reminder: Croyden.pm, this Thursday, 14 Feb

2013-02-14 Thread the hatter

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, David Cantrell wrote:


An gentle reminder, gentle folks, that Croyden.pm will be meeting at the
Dog & Bull, Surrey St, Croydon, CR0 1RG, on Thursday 14 Feb.


What sort of time are people likely to be turning up ?  My day's looking 
pretty unexciting (unless this replacement dsl router doesn't start 
working very soon).



the hatter


Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Anthony Lucas wrote:


3 can be quite good with the traffic detection if it's obvious.


I've used all the other real networks over the last many years - from my 
current t-mobile contract and my orange PAYG with 1ukp/day data addon, 
think my previous payg option was vodafone and I've used voda, orange and 
o2 previously as contract sims.  All have been used to tether my phone, 
none (at least since the invention of on-phone data) have had any 
tethering specified in the contract or payg deal, just standard voice and 
data-on-phone.


I don't torrent, but I've done long backups, vaguely large single file 
transfer (cd and dvd ISOs), and have a fair amount of background chatter. 
Never heard a peep from any of the networks about my tethering.  So I 
wonder, aside from 3 customers, who has tethered without asking, and had 
their network care ?



the hatter


Re: Laptop Recommendation

2012-01-23 Thread the hatter

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Smylers wrote:


Is two-finger scrolling any good (when it works, obviously)? I've never
had a system where that was an option.


It will become instinctive in a very short time.  You will curse and swear 
and question the parentage of other laptops you use that lack this 
feature, swiping your fingers around hopelessly for an instant before 
pitying the poor excuse for an input device and hunting for some scroll 
bars or cursor keys.



the hatter



Re: Testing databases with DBIx::Class

2012-01-10 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Leo Lapworth wrote:


A full dump of live is imported to dev every sunday, when we're running on
a dev server


Except that if this includes personal data, and your customers didn't sign 
up to agree to be test subjects, then it's a breach of data protection 
laws to reuse data gathered for another purpose.  A lot of companies do 
this (either a full copy or some subset to make processing lighter) but 
few have the right words in their statement.



the hatter


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LPW Tripods and extensions

2011-11-10 Thread the hatter

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Abigail wrote:


*Not* having my talk recorded should not be a problem, I presume?


It might mean you don't get a presenter's stipend nor a discount on entry 
to the event.



the hatter


Re: London.pm Dim Sum New World Thursday 1pm

2011-10-20 Thread the hatter

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:



On 20 Oct 2011, at 10:50, the hatter wrote:

Me, probably an ex-cow-orker, and a balance of need and curiousity for 
the stripiness.


Gutted to have missed it.

Was it stripy?


And gelatinous, though only available in red from what I could see.  But 
small savoury things, stripy jelly and egg tarts were all swiftly disposed 
of.



the hatter


Re: London.pm Dim Sum New World Thursday 1pm

2011-10-20 Thread the hatter

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Leon Brocard wrote:


This is today! Who's coming?


Me, probably an ex-cow-orker, and a balance of need and curiousity for the 
stripiness.



the hatter


Re: Bulk domain registrar recommendations

2011-02-09 Thread the hatter

On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Martin A. Brooks wrote:


On Wed, February 9, 2011 17:03, Paul Makepeace wrote:

Which registrars have a decent features/price for someone with a few
dozen domains?


Nominet for .uk domains, GANDI for everything else.


Can't say I'd recommend smaller organisations going direct to nominet - 
given most UK outfits will charge several pence more than the member price 
for a UK domain, it's a bit tough to justify the 400ukp joining/100ukp 
annual fees.



the hatter


London.pm Dimsum Thursday 1pm Chuen Cheng Ku

2011-02-02 Thread the hatter
In accordance with the ancient prophecy, tomorrow lunchtime we shall 
gather to eat many small tasty things - though word on the street is of 
the imminent arrival of a rabbit.  Let us seize this opportunity to mark 
this rare occurance, it only happens once every 12 years, after all.


Plus I've had a busy january and don't think I've had any dim sum at all, 
an affliction that I believe may have affected more of you.


And there is of course the social tomorrow night,

When:
Thursday 3rd February, 1pm

Where:
Chuen Cheng Ku
17 Wardour Street, W1D 6PN
(at the waldour street entrance)

http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Chuen_Cheng_Ku%2C_W1D_6PN

See you there.


the hatter


Re: FFmpeg/C developer

2010-11-18 Thread the hatter

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, James Laver wrote:


There is a jobs list, which you might find more appropriate. On the
other hand it's a C project, so you might have better luck on a
C-related mailing list.


But he might find a better class of candidate on this list.


the hatter


London.pm Dim sum Today 1pm: Leong's Legend Continues

2010-11-18 Thread the hatter
Feeling hungry and looking for some hot, tasty things to distract you from 
the wintery chill ?  Well, after dim sum today you may wish to check out 
some of the postcards posted around chinatown.  Prior to this though, let 
us eat dim sim.


London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up every Thursday at
1pm at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an hour (and about
?10 cash) eating tasty dim sum (steamed and fried dumplings), then go
our separate ways.

Thursday 1pm
Leong's Legend Continues
Lisle Street
London WC2H
Leicester Square Station Tube Station
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Lisle%20Street,WC2H
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Leong%27s_Legend%2C_W1D_6AX
http://www.timeout.com/london/restaurants/reviews/13381.html

See you there!


the hatter


London.pm Dim Sum Top of the Town Thursday 1pm

2010-11-04 Thread the hatter
To celebrate a somewhat more functional public transport network today in 
our fine city I suggest we toast this occasion with tea, and seeing as 
they're also available, tasty steamed treats and egg-based desserts.


London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up every Thursday at
1pm at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an hour (and about
?10 cash) eating tasty dim sum (steamed and fried dumplings), then go
our separate ways.

Top of the Town
Thursday 1pm
37-8 Gerrard Street
W1D 5QB
Leicester Square Tube
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=W1D+5QB
http://www.topofthetownrestaurant.co.uk/


See you there


the hatter


Re: Leadership Election Results

2010-11-01 Thread the hatter

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Ash Berlin wrote:


On 1 Nov 2010, at 07:37, Léon Brocard wrote:

On 1 November 2010 06:17, Dave Cross  wrote:


I closed the leadership poll last night. I'm happy to announce the the
winner of the election and our new leader is:

 Leo Lapworth

Congratulations to Leo and thanks to all the other candidates for taking
part.


Congratulations to all the candidates, but especially Leo. I welcome
the new leadership!

Leon



I would like to be the first to welcome our new Beer Drinking Overlord.


So would I, but it seems this is no longer possible.  Well done anyhow, 
Leo - good to see your election budget was money well spent.



the hatter

Re: London.pm Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Imperial China

2010-10-13 Thread the hatter

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Dominic Thoreau wrote:


Alas, since I last attended a Dim Sum I've changed jobs, and am now
nowhere that part of London or I'd join you.

Would anyone like to comment on the attendability or palatabily of
Ping Pong, near the Tower of London?
Nothing specific, no dates yet, just a RFC .


I'd likely make it out there is someone suggested it, I find ping pong a 
bit pricey but pretty.  I've mostly been posting on weds or the thursday 
morning of possible dim sums, so anyone wanting dim sum close to them will 
likely beat my suggestion if they post earlier in the week.  Or do as dom 
did, and mail the list with suggested venues and see what happens.



the hatter


London.pm Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Imperial China

2010-10-13 Thread the hatter
It has been but a blink of an eye, by geological standards, since I last 
ate dim sum - even so I have a strong compulsion.


London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up some Thursdays at
1pm at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an hour (and about
10 quid cash) eating tasty dim sum (steamed and fried dumplings), then
go our separate ways.

Thursday 1pm

Imperial China
White Bear Yard
25a Lisle Street
London
WC2H 7BA

See you there!


the hatter


Re: Manifesto for London.pm election

2010-10-04 Thread the hatter

On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, James Laver wrote:


He's had it pretty much foisted upon him and he's not complaining. I
know where my vote is going.


The Camel Coalition ?  Because two humps is better than one.


the hatter


London.pm Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Super Star

2010-08-05 Thread the hatter
While our expeditionary forces are doing what they do best, deep into 
Italian territory, today we shall celebrate their victories to date and 
drink (tea) to their future successes.  We shall also raise several sorts 
of small, tasty treats in their honour as they seek to convert more people 
to our unique philosophies.  Join me.


London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up every Thursday at
1pm at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an hour (and about
10 quid cash) eating tasty dim sum (steamed and fried dumplings), then
go our separate ways.

Thursday 1pm
Super Star
17 Lisle Street
WC2H 7BE
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=WC2H+7BE

See you there!


the hatter


London.pm Dim Sum New World Thursday 1pm

2010-07-14 Thread the hatter
Many moons have passed since I last ate stripy jelly.  Clearly the planets 
have fallen back into alignment on this momentous day though.  Help me 
celebrate this by joining us at New World today, where by coincidence such 
exotic treats may be found.


London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up every Thursday at
1pm at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an hour (and about
?10 cash) eating tasty dim sum (steamed and fried dumplings), then go
our separate ways.

New World
Thursday 1pm
1 Gerrard Place
W1D 5PA
Leicester Square Tube
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=W1D+5PA
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?New_World%2C_W1D_5PA

See you there


the hatter


London.pm Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Super Star

2010-04-21 Thread the hatter
It's been longer than an arbitrarily small time period since I've had dim 
sum in the company of venerable mongers, so tomorrow we shall remedy this. 
If you suspect you may be a little late, and you give me a clue to expect 
you, the odds of not playing musical tables may be fortuitously increased.


London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up every Thursday at
1pm at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an hour (and about
10 quid cash) eating tasty dim sum (steamed and fried dumplings), then
go our separate ways.

Thursday 1pm
Super Star
17 Lisle Street
WC2H 7BE
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=WC2H+7BE

See you there!


the hatter


Re: Solid state drives

2010-04-20 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, James Laver wrote:


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:08:10AM +0100, Richard Huxton wrote:

Having said that, there are clearly plenty of applications where
power-failure isn't an overriding worry.


Or 'on any machine connected to a UPS that's correctly configured to
shut the machine down properly'?

Or 'on any machine in a datacenter with generators for backup power'.


That's a nice theory.  I continue to be convinced that UPSs both in-cab 
and at the DC level cause as many power interruptions as they prevent, 
both due to faults and maintainance.  A small trade-off is more scheduled 
downtime in exchange for runtime when the grid fails for more than a 
minute or two.



the hatter


Re: Broadband (probably again...)

2010-04-02 Thread the hatter

On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Andy Armstrong wrote:

I'm in a flat in Wandsworth. I'd like a fat and relatively unmetered 
broadband package. Who are we liking at the moment?


I've got Be in my house in Wandsworth and they're pretty solid.  Maybe I 
can be the first to offer you a referer code (which gets us both, er, 
something I think) for them.  I'm on the 'unlimited' or there's 'pro' if 
you want more upstream (up to 2.5Mb rather than up to 1.3Mb)



the hatter



Re: Fun Friday afternoon topic: domain name disputes

2010-02-05 Thread the hatter

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, mirod wrote:


It appears that her brand is unique, which is lucky for a 4 letter word!


In which case, ignore all previous comments on trademark, lawyers and 
apparent cost.  It has a high inherent value just as it is, and a lot of 
people will pay a few thousand pounds just to add it to their portfolio, 
and more if they have a handy use for it.  If your friend wants any 
4-letter domain, she's going to have to spend a lot of cash.



the hatter


RE: No more IP for you

2010-01-27 Thread the hatter

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Jurgen Pletinckx wrote:


| So we're all youthful and bright-eyed still, right ?

I was thinking "Sure", but the Freudian slip in your sig disagrees:


I did of course notice that... at the expected instant after hitting send.


the hattter


Re: No more IP for you

2010-01-27 Thread the hatter

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Victoria Conlan (vi...@comps.org) wrote:



Wow, I must have seen my first email warning of this peril almost 20 years 
ago


For a second then I felt /really/ old.
Then I realised that 20 years ago I was still at school.  And I felt a
lot* better.


20 years ago, so was I - even almost-20-years-ago I was at school... but 
with net access and hanging around with geeks.


So we're all youthful and bright-eyed still, right ?


the hater


Re: No more IP for you

2010-01-20 Thread the hatter

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Luis Motta Campos wrote:


http://www.nro.net/media/less-than-10-percent-ipv4-addresses-remain-unallocated.html

Now, the IP Allocation Market will start warming up... if you're sitting
on some IP addresses for several years now, I see big business
opportunities for you ahead.


Wow, I must have seen my first email warning of this peril almost 20 years 
ago now (and I'm sure they were going around before then, too).  I'll put 
a note in my diary to start worrying about it when I get a moment.



the hatter


Re: London.pm Dim Sum TianFu Buyi Tuesday 1pm

2009-12-29 Thread the hatter

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Léon Brocard wrote:


It's unlikely that we'll find any restaurants open this Thursday, so I
think it's time to have an emergency Tuesday meeting. This restaurant
has been mentioned on list before (it used to be called Bamboo House)
- it does do dim sum but the main menu is more about Sichuan dishes.


Sounds good to me, see you all there in a bit.


the hatter

Re: Monads are like burritos

2009-12-16 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, James Laver wrote:


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Peter Edwards  wrote:

Shite City


I'm sure that was a typo ;)

Wahaca is very tasty indeed (particularly the tasting platter for two,
you get to try 5 different delicious things). I can only vouch for the
shite city branch at westfield as last I tried to get into the Covent
Garden one I found that I'd be waiting an hour for a table, so I gave
up.


The cov garden one is rather popular, but has been sold me much tasty food 
on previous occasions.  Hadn't realised there was one in Westfield, might 
be a better Thursday option than the food court options, certainly more 
authentic in allowing up to buy many small, tasty fried (though probably 
no steamed) dishes for sharing.



the hatter


RE: Domain acquisition

2009-12-15 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Jurgen Pletinckx wrote:


As to the money question - I hadn't offered any yet. These appear to be
prime properties: 4-letter words, pronounceable and recognizable, and yet
not currently used.

I'm not sure of the going rates, and I wouldn't want to hazard my chances by
over- or underbidding. We assume we'll be paying through the nose, though.


Try dnsaleprice.com - it keeps track of auction prices.  For instance, 4 
letter, 1-word .co.uk's sold in the last year shows 20 words or 
almost-words, with decent words from $900-13 and some other 4-letters 
from $80-900.  Sedo's search tools let you do similar, a 4 or less seatch 
on there shows fixed-price domains available to buy, and also what others 
are up at auction.  It should at least put some hard boundaries on 
your pricing even if it still leaves a wide margin.



the hatter


Re: London.pm Dim Sum Top of the Town Thursday 1pm

2009-11-19 Thread the hatter

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Dominic Thoreau wrote:


2009/11/17 Léon Brocard :

I think we went here a long time ago. I'd like to try it again. It's
in Chinatown.
Top of the Town
Thursday 1pm


Given that it's today, is this still on?


Yup - I'm going to be there, there's not often replies to list but leon 
does sometimes send a this-is-today remind.



the hatter

Re: London.pm Dim Sum Super Star Thursday 1pm

2009-11-03 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Léon Brocard wrote:


Now I'm in the same country as London.pm, I long for fresh noodles and
tasty dim sum. Let's go to Chinatown!


I'm looking out for somewhere local that sells these l.pm-appropriate 
treats: 
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01470/sign16_1470451i.jpg



the hatter

Re: stackoverflow !perl conference

2009-10-16 Thread the hatter

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Joel Bernstein wrote:


Obviously if the conf is sold-out the organisers won't care, but it
seems a bit mean to exclude whole user groups.


I'm assuming they included their own user group - and as subject line 
says, it's not a perl conference.  Blanketting every possible user list 
will also as you say guarantee an attenence.  Somewhere between 3 users 
and, er, however many people tried to sign up to the well-pimped, 
well-funded, large bbc backstage ones (ie. many times more than even the 
bbc can host).  Not great for getting a group of people with something in 
common, if they get the first 2 applicants from a million lists (though 
that could be an interesting conference too).



the hatter


Re: Credit Cards

2009-10-14 Thread the hatter

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Avleen Vig wrote:


Here in the US, when you place a credit card order online, you almost
always have to give the phone number associated with the credit card
account, and that is definitely verified by the CC company / bank.
I see no problem with this really.


Of course, being a security question, you wouldn't want to set it to 
something that anyone with a phone book can look up.



the hatter


Re: Credit Cards

2009-10-13 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Smylers wrote:


But of course I _am_ on the roll; however, I ticked the 'you may not
sell my contact details to junk mailers' box, so I'm not on the edited
electoral roll.

I would hope that anybody using the edited electoral roll for credit
checking would be aware of the existence of that checkbox.


Being aware of the box doesn't help them.  They can't see you're on the 
public register, so they score you based on not being on the public 
register.  This may or may not be fatal depending on what you're trying to 
purchase.  Only times I've noticed anyone mention it is getting a new 
mobile phone contract and ticket inspectors when I ended up without a 
ticket.  In both cases it was an inconvenience that they couldn't verify 
my address that way, but nothing they seemed to have a problem with 
overall.



the hatter


Re: Skype

2009-09-17 Thread the hatter

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Andrew Black wrote:


I am having a debate about Skype at $work.
I have a gut feeling that I don't like it. Tried to read the T&C and got
very confused. "Wool" "eyes" "over" "pulling" comes to mind.

What are other peoples views on it.


The T&Cs don't come off any more scary to me than anyone else that acts as 
a carrier for your data.  Contrary to some people's views on it's 
encryption, it is propriatory (which is bad, m'kay) but there's a real 
lack of bad people being prosecuted because of things that could only have 
been discovered from their skype conversations, and rumours about both the 
US and UK governments trying to pressure skype into making their jobs 
easier.


As a computer-computer service, it's good value, good enough and 
convenient.  The SkypeIn and SkypeOut options are pretty comprehensive, 
though as they cost money, it'd be nice if the quality was more reliable.



the hatter


Orange uber alles

2009-09-09 Thread the hatter

http://secretgeek.net/OrangeX.asp

I'm suspecting some people must have seen this before, but it was new to 
me.



the hatter


Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 24th September 2009

2009-09-01 Thread the hatter

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Dermot wrote:


The last time I signed up for this (Gumtree @ Kew) I never received a reply.
I suspect the same is about to happen with the sign up. Is there a moderator
listening? Can I get a pass please?


I don't beleive you get a reply, your name just goes on the list of 
attendees that is sent to the venue.  Sign up, turn up, profit.



the hatter


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Reminder: London.pm social meet, Thursday evening

2009-08-06 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, David Cantrell wrote:

> Early birds please grab a couple of tables outside if it's a nice day!

I reckon I'll be there from 5:30ish, anyone else planning on being there
around then ?


the hatter


Re: London.pm Beer Festival, Edgar Wallace, TOMORROW,Thursday 2009-07-16

2009-07-17 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Chris Jack wrote:

> Just wondering if there was a magic configuration that could be applied
> to the list's software to do something about this.

You could subscribe to -announce non-digested while keeping the main list
in digest mode.  And arrange subtle reminders for any event-posters to use
the announce list (which will mirror it to the regular list too, if I'm
not mistaken).


the hatter


Re: Geekiest place on earth? (was Re: Big Geek Day Out)

2009-06-25 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, David Cantrell wrote:

> > Honrable mentions to
> > National Space Centre, Leicester
>
> It looked rubbish when I went there for a Go tournament.  Nothing but
> kiddy crap.

As a rocket geek I kept myself amused for quite some time there, but
perhaps they don't point out the things that are interesting so clearly.
Or maybe they're not that interesting if you're not into rockets or space
sciences.


the hatter


Re: Big Geek Day Out: Bletchley Park 18th July

2009-06-15 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Joel Bernstein wrote:

>
> On 15 Jun 2009, at 12:14, Peter Corlett wrote:
> >  I picked up a bottle of cheap cooking shandy to sip on the train so
> > I wouldn't get dehydrated
>
> Does this actually work? Ethanol is diuretic isn't it? Either directly
> or through its absorption.

The net effect of drinking a pint of alcohol is likely to absorb more
water than you'll pass from the effect.  In terms of danger of real
dehydration, drink up it'll do you good.  Even in terms of taking
sufficient daily fluids, better to drink your 2L of whatever is tasty (be
it alcohol or caffeinated beverage, both of which are rumoured to be bad
due to diuretic effects) than hardly any plain old water.


the hatter


Re: Technical meeting: An evening of dynamic languages

2009-06-10 Thread the hatter
Can someone who braved the signup but has decided not to brave the tube
strikes mail me offlist ?  Signup is closed, but a little identity fraud
should fix that.


the hatter



Perl's place in history

2009-05-11 Thread the hatter
1987 - Larry Wall falls asleep and hits Larry Wall's forehead on the
keyboard. Upon waking Larry Wall decides that the string of characters on
Larry Wall's monitor isn't random but an example program in a programming
language that God wants His prophet, Larry Wall, to design. Perl is born.

from
http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html

Plenty more historic moments recorded there too.


the hatter


Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: Bamboo Basket

2009-04-23 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, [ISO-8859-1] Léon Brocard wrote:

> This is today! Who's coming? Léon

I'm in, see you there.


the hatter




Re: Action address in HTML forms

2009-03-04 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, David Cantrell wrote:

> The only reason I used to do it is because the server was running on
> Windows 95, and it's impossible on Windows to tell if something is
> executable or not from just looking at the file.

It's not terrible to separate data and programs in any environment.  Plus
if I'm not mistaken, apache would exec anything from a ScriptAlias, and
serve anything from any other directory, in the good old days, until you
add in handlers for extensions you want ran, and XBitHack and similar.
There have been plenty of cases of people's super-secret code being
downloaded because they left an editor backup file in a servable directory
(though apache's default httpd.conf has some rules to deny the common
cases iirc).

It's all just a bit of an inconvenience as default, but entirely workable
to rewrite things to remove /cgi-bin from the URI if you're stuck with
that restriction.


the hatter


Re: Action address in HTML forms

2009-03-03 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Nigel Peck wrote:

> Zbigniew Lukasiak wrote:

> > Is it then a reasonable rule when writing a 'high level web
> > library/framework' to restrict the forms to always submit to their own
> > address?
>
> Have you considered the case where the initial form is on a page, and
> then submits to a script, which keeps calling itself from there?
> e.g.
>
>  http://www.example.com/contact.html
> has a search form on it, which points to:
> http://www.example.com/cgi-bin/search.pl

I'm most likely to incorporate contact.html into search.pl in that case -
it makes it easier to keep any changes in sync between the views if both
options load the same template.  Called with no parameters, it shows the
page unfilled; called with incorrect parameters it shows the page,
regexping in previous correct data and error messages; submitted with
correct data it does something potentially more exciting.

I'd expect most frameworks to remove the URI distintion between html pages
and where scripts can execute, so /contact could equally be a plain page
or a script.


the hatter


Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: Leong's Legend

2009-02-18 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Bradley Dean wrote:

> Leon's still out of town; I'm coming into town for the tech meet and
> thought perhaps some Dim Sum might be in order. I quite liked Leong's
> Legend so thought it might good to eat there again.

Sounds like a tasty plan.

> Brad, Australian doing an impression of the London.pm Dim Sum Tsar

If you're wearing orange and brandishing a camel, it'd be near impossible
to distinguish you from the Real Thing[tm].


the hatter


Re: [REVIEW] Drobo

2009-01-30 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Paul Sharpe wrote:

> There was some kind of firmware issue with Seagate 1.5TB drives and
> Drobo recently.

There seems to have been issues with a wide range of non-single-disk uses
of seagate's 1.5TB drive, and even single disk uses with not-windows.
Given most of the vendors seem to be pushing the 1.5TB at the same price
as seagate 1TB drives, I'm mighty suspicious.  Suspicious enough to buy
8x1TB rather than 8x1.5TB for my current raid stack upgrade.[1]

While we're pimping lovely disk hardware, I continue to have much love for
my Infortrend Eonstor Masscube
(http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=27&products_id=5582)
That model is now discontinued but they have a million other options.  No
interfaces cheaper than SCSI though (unless you want to mess around with
iSCSI.

As recommended initially by friends from 2 different post-production
companies, both of who use them and their sibling products quite heavily.
Technolust forced another friend of mine to ebay for one of their 3U,
16-slot enclosures which cost them substantially less than a new Drobo.
Expanding partitions by upgrading disks is pretty painless, but not Magic.


the hatter

[1] though it sounds like seagate have finally admitted/resolved these
issues, 2 months down the line and after giving lousy service to a lot of
users, and will require you to do a firmware upgrade on drives that are
currently on retailers shelves.


Re: ANNOUNCE: Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Chiswick

2009-01-07 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Bob Walker wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, the hatter wrote:
>
> > Time in lieu == dim sum, surely ?
>
> it was more if i had to go back tommorrow because stuff didnt get fixed
> today :)
> thankfully stuff is fixed enough that i can make dim sum!
> hooray!
> assuming i dont get dragged into a meeting about todays fun.
> boo!

Have meeting over dim sum.
So is work related.
So expensable.
hurray!


the hatter


Re: ANNOUNCE: Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Chiswick

2009-01-07 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Bob Walker wrote:

> given that i seem to still be sitting in a colo my appearance at dim sum
> is becoming even less likely by the minute.

Time in lieu == dim sum, surely ?

> those who want dim sum may wish to make alternative plans. or just go to
> oriental brasserie without me. The 2 other people who work in chiswick may
> still turn up anyway. of course i still may be abel to make it as well.

I'll be there anyhow, already agreeded it was someone else who's out that
way, so there will be at least 2 folk there.  If anyone else else is
likely to turn up, give me a shout.


the hatter


Re: ANNOUNCE: Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Chiswick

2009-01-07 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Bob Walker wrote:

> I pick Oriental Brasserie in Chiswick
> http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Oriental_Brasserie,_W4_2HD

Sounds good to me, see you there.


the hatter


Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: HK Diner

2008-12-17 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Christopher Jones wrote:

> Well, it is a special occasion after all
>
> Could Dim sum be turned into a 21st Birthday Party?

Depends - are you bringing cake and jelly+ice cream ?  Otherwise it's not
a real birthday party.


the hatter


Re: [ANNOUNCE] November social - Edgar Wallace, WC2 - Thurs 6 Nov

2008-11-07 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Kake L Pugh wrote:

> On Tue 04 Nov 2008, Kake L Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello!  The November social of the London Perlmongers is a mere two
> > days away.  I hope you are all excited.  This month, we're going back
> > to the Edgar Wallace, where we have the upstairs function room booked
> > from 6:30pm.
>
> I had to run away early last night for a previous engagement, and only
> a handful of people had arrived at that point, so... any feedback
> (good or bad) on last night's social?
>
> (In terms of the pub, I mean, not in terms of the Perlmongers.)

It was a bit quieter than some of the previous socials there, which meant
it was a bit less of a squeeze to get from tables to the bar.  The steak
sarnie was still tasty, the apple and pear crumble was ok but suffers from
having built-in custard.


the hatter


Re: Apple service providers

2008-10-07 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Simon Wilcox wrote:

> So my macbook died[1] and I need to get it fixed under applecare.
>
> Seems I can't just send it off, I have to choose an Authorised Service
> Provider in London to take/send it to.

Curious, I had a dead HD just over a month back, and they were going to
send out a courier next-day.  Being cynical though, I checked my repair
status next-day morning and seems there was a communication issue, so I
cancelled that repair and took it down to the only apple store I could get
a same-day genius bar appointment with, in kingston (fairly convenient for
me).

A casual chat with the bloke checking it in for repair also won me a
replacement keyboard (a few of the keycaps had got worn) and a new screen
(had developed 3 dead pixels in its 2.5 years).  Did take them a whole
calendar week until I got it back, I was hoping for something
super-efficient but they say 7-10 days and guarantee something longer.

> [1] hard disk died right in the middle of using it. Should be a fairly
> simple job to swap it out and install the OS but I'd quite like the disk
> back as there's some data I might want to get off it.

Luckily I'd done a full backup just prior to taking my hols, and was only
using data not creating.  What their service agreement does say is that
they're not liable for the privacy of any confidential data on it, which
may worry some people.


the hatter


Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial

2003-09-02 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Philip Newton wrote:

> On 2 Sep 2003 at 7:16, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
>
> > It's certainly not what I'd call anywhere close to being "standard" or
> > "universal".
>
> I'm told it's fairly popular in (some?) Usenet binary newsgroups as a
> standard way of distributing warez and moviez.

Certainly a majority of warez that show up on our network are rars (and
they tend to be single large files, so they're not directly taken from
multipart usenet posts)


the hatter



Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-01 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Jason Clifford wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
[ converses politely with mr policeman ]

> > If they require my DNA they are going to have to arrest me to get
> > it.
>
> Refusing to provide it will probably be made an offence and you could then
> find yourself sharing a cell with Big Ron.

I heard they were telling Big Ron to behave, and threatening that if he
didn't, he might end up in a cell with piers.


the hatter



Re: No multipart or HTML

2003-08-29 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, David Cantrell wrote:

> Paul Makepeace wrote:
>
> > I've just discarded 56 spam messages caught by london.pm's anti-spam member-
> > only policy. It was tedious, and is unlikely to get better. They all
> > share the trait of having HTML in them.
>
> If you are finding the task of approving/deleting non-member posts too
> time-consuming for just one person to handle, I'd be happy to help out.

Having recently recruited other moderators for my own lists, because of
imminant absence at just the time it'll need them approved speedily, I'd
agree with this - 4 moderators out of 400 users sounds a sensible sort of
proportion.


the hatter



Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-28 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:

> Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
> *>
> *>I don't live in St. Louis but if I did I would be complaining about that
> *>law.  One bad law in St. Louis doesn't justify introducing a bad law in
> *>the UK.
>
> It's a really old law, one that has never actually been used as far as I'm
> aware.

I'm fairly sure the UK has a law like that, if not, then it did, and it
might have been repealled.

> *>There is a big difference between a compulsory ID card and the usual
> *>stuff you carry in your pockets which is voluntary.
> You're required to carry a drivers license when driving and could be fined
> and/or jailed if you don't. I've been busted for forgetting my wallet and
> license before and I paid a fine.

You're required to here.  The trivial percentage of people who do has
spawned its own procedures for having to produce your docs within a week
or two at an appropriate police station.  This is mainly because, until
recently, the UK driving license was a fairly large (somewhere between A4
and A5 sized) sheet of paper, should be carried rather than left in the
vehicle for all manner of sensible security reasons, and was expected to
last several decades.  Though a few years ago, it was replaced with a
handy credit-card-sized, laminated, hardy, photocard.  And a slightly
different A4/5 sized bit of paper.  Hence the system remains.

Unusually, for someone without a full license, I have a photocard, and I
carry it most times, as a photo ID.  It'll be interesting to see if I can
use it as ID in the US, instead of my passport, though I won't be near
much civilisation, so probably won't get IDd anyway.


the hatter



Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Wechsler wrote:

> Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
>
> > darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
> > *>I assume you mean Leon[0][1].
> >
> > Actually, no, but now that you mention it:)
>
> Stacked footnotes, or does he now come as a multidimensional array?

Depends what you're trying to store in him, I'd guess.  Or maybe it's a
footnote about his first element.


the hatter




Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:

> I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will
> be attending tomorrow.

Me and my clone army will be there.


the hatter




Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, James Campbell wrote:

> Humble appologies

Why's it OT, is he doing it in perl ?


the hatter




Re: Messing with mail-owned files from Apache

2003-07-15 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> Is there a best practice when performing operations as a system user
> from with perl in Apache? It seems suexec is quite restricted in what it
> can do, specifically it won't setuid to system users nor operate outside
> of a particular directory hierarchy.

Both of these are tweakable when you compile apache though.  If you'd
rather not let system users other than mail be suexec'd to, then the
source to suexec is very simple.  Obviously the provided warnings should
be taken seriously that altering it may be a Very Bad Thing unless you
understand what you're doing - but it is a trivial change.  The
directories that suexec cares about are the ones where the actual binaries
are located, so unless your apache is chrooted so it can't find your mail
spool or whatever, then the directory location bits probably won't even
need tweaking.


the hatter




Re: License question

2003-07-15 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Nigel Wetters wrote:

> I can avoid bundling the data by having a second program that does know
> about the data write the program I wish to distribute. A bit tortuous,
> but if it avoids the licensing clash, probably worth the effort. But
> does it avoid the licensing clash?

Maybe add a -datafile option that allows you to specify the files location
(and include in --help a URL for where to the the free-as-in-beer one)


the hatter




Re: xslt & perl functions

2003-07-09 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:33:16AM +0100, Clayton, Nik [IT] wrote:
> >   -- David Wheeler, chief programmer for the EDSAC project in the
>
> This really is a remarkably popular name for programmers.
>
> http://david.wheeler.net/
> http://www.dwheeler.com/
> http://www.acm.org/awards/fellows_citations_n-z/wheeler.html

There appear to be 3 david cantrells, too.  It's obviously all part of the
excessive-daves problem that's dogged IT for a long time.


the hatter



Re: matching yer conditionals

2003-07-07 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Paul Johnson wrote:

> Simon Wistow said:
>
> > I hate our internal templating language which we affectionateluy refer
> > to as "Satan's own templating language" or "Gah, you
> > suckle on the wang of a syphillitic mule you pus filled buboe of a
> > abomination-stroke-language ... a curse on your creators may they rot
> > in hell with their flesh being flayed from them with cocktails
> > umbrellas as a thousand incontinent were-elephants micturate on them"
>
> Any chance you could upload it to CPAN?

It's there already.  In fact, several templating systems on CPAN answer to
that description.


the hatter




Re: [OT] Chewing gum

2003-07-06 Thread the hatter
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote:

> I appreciate that this is more off-topic than most, but...
>
> Where can I bulk-buy chewing gum online, or, failing that, anywhere
> else?

Don't know about online, but any cash and carry place should have.  Ask
around friends and see who's a member of one, flutter eyelashes, and see
if they'll help you in your plight.


the hatter



Re: [ot] Mounting Unix Drives in Windows

2003-07-01 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Dave Cross wrote:

> 1/ How much chance is there that a Samba installation will cause
> problems? How stable is Samba?

Plenty of people here have more informed opinions than me, I'll leave them
to fight it out

> 2/ Is there anyone that will provide a commercial support contract
> for Samba?

You want to give someone moeny for a service ?  Of course someone will
take your money, no idea who is reliable though.

> 3/ Are there any other solutions we can look at - like, perhaps,
> an NFS client for Windows?

NFS on windows has a bit of a chequered history of reliability, however
I'll stick in a good word for OmniNFS and the other NFS stuff from
xlink(.com) - the only on-going reliable nfs server I've ever encounted
for windows (and I've tried several) and they do client and server, but
also full gateway products so you might want to install the on one server,
and then let that proxy between nfs and samba.


the hatter




Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:40:09PM +0200, Anders Hellstr?m wrote:
> > At 14.35 + 03-06-26, the hatter wrote:
> > >If you're measuring speeds, you obviously need a time unit to go with your
> > >length, I propose wider adoption of the millifortnight - about 20 minutes.
> >
> > I prefer the microfortnight, 1.2096 seconds.
>
> The best unit is the "millihelen" - which is defined as the amount of
> beauty required to launch one ship.

Now you're just making things up.  c.f. the MARS Book of Standards Weights
and Measures, a publication well-known in rocketry circles consisting
largely of measures and non-dimensioned units for in related applications.

Another obscure but official unit which I occassionally use in the correct
context is a jiffy, as in "just a jiffy", which is actually 1/50th (or
occassionally 1/60th of a second depending on what video standard you're
using)


the hatter



Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

> Fortune saves the day with essential facts such as:
>
> 1.79 x 10^12 furlongs per fortnight -- it's not just a good idea, it's
> the law!
>
> If it comes to obscure units, I always had a great fondness for the
> nanocentury:
>
> %% (fortunes)
>  How many seconds are there in a year?  If I tell you there  are
> 3.155  x  10^7, you won't even try to remember it.  On the other hand,
> who could forget that, to within half a percent, pi seconds is a
> nanocentury.
>  -- Tom Duff, Bell Labs

I prefer metric units, especially ones that are easy to convert to
imperial ones.  Like the attoparsec.  Which is fairly similar to an inch.

If you're measuring speeds, you obviously need a time unit to go with your
length, I propose wider adoption of the millifortnight - about 20 minutes.


the hatter



Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote:

> [2] Get out clause: as long as my g/f doesn't complain (selling my
>   kidneys would of course violate this...)

Would she complain if she won the auction for your kidneys ?


the hatter




Re: Number Indicating Participation in London.pm (NIPL) (was:assimilating CPAN)

2003-06-20 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

>Hold on, please, just a second!
>Here in Brazil, South America, there is no Buffy on the TV.
>This means that no Brazilians can be *real* London.pm members?
>This is unfair. I have no control over what the TV shows here.

You think the majority of l.pm'ers get buffy on their TV ?  I suspect more
of them download it.  Though we might get a better idea now the season is
finished again, and see how many more people come out on thursday nights.



the hatter




Re: Going to Pub Tommorow (Thursday) Night

2003-06-19 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, David H. Adler wrote:

> > *Metatron (Alan Rickman) <http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Rickman,%20Alan>*: You
> > people! If it hasn't been made into a movie, it's not worth knowing
> > about, is that it?
>
> The question is, did you quote that *because* of the reference to
> golgotha, or was that just a coincidence...

I'm guessing that the golgotha line was because it was a followup to a
post mentioning serendipity, which then really left no choice but a 3rd
line from the same source.


the hatter



Re: [Advert] indy hardware for sale

2003-06-10 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, David Cantrell wrote:

> On Monday, June 9, 2003 10:01 +0000 the hatter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > (I assume they're either SCA or 68 pin micro D)
> Indys take plain ol' SCSI-2 disks, so your drives are useless.

You'll surely note my non-SCA option above.  Though fingers crossed, it
seems that tonight I talked someone into giving me an octane and some irix
media, so the disks are now back in circulation for exchanging for toys or
favours.


the hatter



Re: [Advert] indy hardware for sale

2003-06-09 Thread the hatter
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Robert Shiels wrote:

> From: "Greg McCarroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:07 PM
>
> > sorry to do this on the channel but i felt the SGI kit would be popular,
> > if anyone would like to share interesting SGI anecdotes that might
> > bring some content back to this thread.
> >
> I also have an Indy. The hard disk has problems though, and I've no CD drive
> or software, or space for it, so it's been in my shed for the last year :-(

If people are looking to consolidate, I'll quite happily exchange their
indys for assorted decent (18-36GB) scsi drives of the appropriate types
(I assume they're either SCA or 68 pin micro D)  So if anyone wants to buy
one of the machines, and buy a disk off me for the price of the other,
I'll happily take the other.

Or if anyone has a use for a dual-channel sparc-happy scsi card (the
single-channel version is currently sitting in my u5) and has an irix box
they'd swap it for, let me know.


the hatter



Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:

> In future I shall not bother warning people, less someone jumps down my
> throat.

Excellent, it'll be an even more enchanting surprise for everyone when all
the other shells are pulled, and we all start using the perl shell.

Vaguely more on-topic though, I disn't read it as anyone jumping down your
throat, just wanting to get a better idea of how the minds that massage
penedrel do their stuff.


the hatter



Re: [Ab]use of penderel

2003-06-03 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> This might be an offlist sysadmin discussion but is there some
> (rational) reason to uninstall some software that works, simply because
> another piece of software can do something similar?

One less think to think about and patch ?  I wouldn't be hugely convinced
by the argument in this case, it's not like an MTA that can only have one
thing run on one port, and it cooperates fairly trivially with any other
web server.

> Should we uninstall python and ruby from penderel as well? Uninstall dc
> because you can do maths in perl?

That'd be handy.  With mailman gone, I'm sure no one will need python any
more, anyway.  We can get also get rid of sed/awk/grep/etc.  Except all of
those which gnu configure and make require to actually make perl,
obviously.


the hatter



Re: internet world show tomorrow

2003-06-02 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:

> On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 10:42, the hatter wrote:
> > Anyone else going to be there ?  Any existing plans for moungers to gather
> > in small corners and discuss current industry trends in the key sectors,
> > buffy and beer ?
>
> I'll be there later on, prolly Thursday. Save me some l00t.

You'll be lucky, one thing on my schedule for tomorrow is instructing an
exhibition virgin in the ins and outs of looting and pillaging the best
freebies.  I'll send a followup with pointers to the finest and
fastest-moving merchandise so you know where to get started.


the hatter



internet world show tomorrow

2003-06-02 Thread the hatter
Anyone else going to be there ?  Any existing plans for moungers to gather
in small corners and discuss current industry trends in the key sectors,
buffy and beer ?



the hatter




Re: Net::Whois::RIPE

2003-05-29 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Ian Watkinson wrote:

> What I am ideally looking for is something in perl that provides me with
> the sme funcionality as the normal system command whois, as a bare
> minimum.

Net::ParseWhois exists and I use it for commercial stuff.  The maintainer
doesn't really maintain it, and as the people who run whois databases
change formats arbitrarily, it needs real users to keep it up-to-date.
However, join the mailing list, and various people post updates and minor
changes.

Primarily it exists for com/net/org, though personally I'm just updating
my version to extract more data for .uk domains.  My effort to make it
work on non-recursive whois systems could probably do with being redone by
someone who really understands objects, but what's there works, and makes
it fairly simple to add new TLDs and new whois formats.  There was some
plottings for me and someone else to officially take over maintainance,
but I've been lacking the tuits to actually sort that.


the hatter



Re: pattern matching against phonenumbers

2003-04-12 Thread the hatter
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:35:03PM +0000, the hatter wrote:
> > > Somewhere along the line, I let my registration for formmail.pl lapse.
> > > Anyone want to re-register it ?
>
> Way back I thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be quite a cool address. Seems
> like it has NS records now, might even be valid...

It saddens me to announce another reason for newbies to start with python
rather than perl - registering a .py domain costs about half of what it
costs for a .pl  Though as expected, the .py approach only lets you do
it if you understand the native way of saying things, whereas .pl will let
you use english, if you're not quite familiar with the prefered method.


the hatter



Re: pattern matching against phonenumbers

2003-04-12 Thread the hatter
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, the hatter wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote:
>
> > (proud owner of cou.ch, grou.ch, snit.ch, and bugbit.ch)
>
> Somewhere along the line, I let my registration for formmail.pl lapse.
> Anyone want to re-register it ?

Ah actually, skip that, I think the prices have come down a bit lately,
I'll reregister it myself.


the hatter



Re: pattern matching against phonenumbers

2003-04-12 Thread the hatter
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote:

> (proud owner of cou.ch, grou.ch, snit.ch, and bugbit.ch)

Somewhere along the line, I let my registration for formmail.pl lapse.
Anyone want to re-register it ?


the hatter




Re: [ANNOUNCE] Signup for Tech Meet Mon 14th April + Tonight Social

2003-04-03 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:

> On the other hand it's a simple web form. Not the most difficult thing
> to fill in.

Is there a deadline ?  I mean, last thing you want it someone standing at
reception, filling in the form online, submitting it, then asking security
to let them proceed.


the hatter



Re: CPAN site

2003-04-01 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Paul Mison wrote:

> On 31/03/2003 at 22:53 +0000, the hatter wrote:
> >On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> >
> >>  On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 10:39:57PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> >>  > This is terrible, terrible: http://www.cpan.org/
> >>
> >>  Indeed yes. All the NMS links point to CPAN :-(
> >
> >And it's not april fools day for another half hour.
>
> Did I miss the memo where everyone agreed to run their April Fools
> jokes in UTC? Or did everyone just think it was a joke?

I think so, the RFC was due today, but seems to have been overshadowed by
a more pressing one about security bits in IP4.


the hatter




Re: CPAN site

2003-03-31 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 10:39:57PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> > This is terrible, terrible: http://www.cpan.org/
>
> Indeed yes. All the NMS links point to CPAN :-(

And it's not april fools day for another half hour.


the hatter





Re: graphics cards in servers

2003-03-27 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:51:28PM -, Blackwell, Lee wrote:
> > > Either way, anyone have any advice for what kind of card to use in a
> > > Linux server?  Will the choice of graphics card have any noticeable
> > > effect or is it OK to nick one from an old desktop?
> > How about no graphics card at all?  Run serial console - assuming you've got
> > legacy serial ports.
>
> You try persuading standard PC hardware to boot without a graphics card.

Yeah, that and if you're in a PC environment, expect to find plenty of
spare keyboards and mice, for when you need to hook up a display, but most
likely a lack of null modem cables to use.  Just like the converse in sun
environments.

Oh yeah, and I have not data to prove this one way or the other, but I'd
be happier with a real text console rather than a framebuffer one.


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Re: graphics cards in servers

2003-03-27 Thread the hatter
On 27 Mar 2003, alex wrote:

> Either way, anyone have any advice for what kind of card to use in a
> Linux server?  Will the choice of graphics card have any noticeable
> effect or is it OK to nick one from an old desktop?

Ideally, choose one that uses the best bus available (if the machine has
agp and pci slots, stick an agp one in, if it's got pci and isa, stick a
pci one in, unless you'd run out of slots for useful stuff).  Or if you're
going for integrated graphics, either make sure it has its own video ram,
or check the bios and reduce the amount assigned from system memory for it
(ISTR something weird and install-ish at work objected to not having
enough base memory, because the graphics chip was hogging some of it)

Other than that, use the best card you have spare, or the cheapest card
you can buy.  No point in letting a card accumulate dust, but no point
paying for features you don't use.

I suspect the whole issue is a lot less of a deal in a PCI/AGP world
(especially with faster and wider busses), it used to be more of an issue
with ISA, but even then it was marginal rather than discernable.


the hatter




Re: Making running X listen on TCP

2003-03-19 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Nick Woolley wrote:

>
> Paul M said:
> >But I'd like to test another headless machine's X clients.
>  ^
> So actually, maybe I was too hasty suggesting VNC.

Not necessarily, I'm reliably informed that VNC runs X desktops as
separate screens, so popping up a VNC session originating on a unix box
won't replicate the desktop running on console, but will be a full window
managered session, which you can connect and disconnect to with VNC.  So a
bit weird, but I know a couple of people who run this way for some jobs
they work on.  And obviously you can use this session from windows, X, or
anything else which vnc supports.


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[FOR SALE] DDS3 hardware

2003-03-16 Thread the hatter
HP external drive
Seagate internal, 5.25" mount
HP internal, 3.5" mount

All can come with appropriate scsi cable, they've all been used
occassionally and not had any problems.  Sensible offers to the usual
address, may swap for other toys (esp if you have one decent dds4 drive,
and would rather have 2 decent dds3 ones)


the hatter




Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-16 Thread the hatter
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Chris Benson wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 01:02:51PM +, Lusercop wrote:
> >
> > That's a nice demo, but that's not what snapshots are good for, of course.
>
> When you've about 15,000 users who all seem capable of pressing [Delete]
> [Yes] [Yes to All] without checking which files/directories they've
> selected, (the worst offenders being "the Executive"), thereby generating
> about 4hours work for support, being able to get back to files as-at
> say 0800, 1200 and 1600 without recourse to tapes is a huge win.  (And
> perhaps "the last 7 days at 2000" depending on how much churn
> there is.  It works on 4KB pages, so is supposedly v.efficient).

It's effectivey some clever uses of diff.  You have the 'real' fs, as it
existed at one point in time.  When you take a snapshot, you start up a
'diff session'.  All writes are made to this diff file, all reads first go
through the diff file, to see if they've been altered, and then either
reads from the diff, or reads from the original fs, depending on whether
it's been altered lately.

> Also saw the BakBone backup system:

I assume you mean the plugin for netvault.  Not used netapps and
netvault together, but netvault on its own seems nice enough for small
systems, but has some shockingly small arbitrary limits (which they send
you patched binaries for, if you find them and ask them in the right way)
to get over.  Like the maximum number of characters in a list of machines
to back up... not a maximum number of machines 9well, there is, but you'll
not hit that until you've hit this)  so you can add a.com, b.com, c.com to
the list, but you can't add thequickbrownfoxneedsbackups.com instead.


the hatter




Re: looking for a place to rent a server

2003-03-14 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Christof Damian wrote:

> hosteurope.com looked really good too, but they are all
> german and want a german bank account.

No we're not, and we don't.  Try .com rather than .de


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Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-13 Thread the hatter
On 13 Mar 2003, alex wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 15:43, Shevek wrote:

> > My opinion on programming (this week) is that the modern generation of
> > programmer has never used any system where commands are executed as you
> > type them, and thus they have no concept of a sequence of instructions,
> > and therefore they cannot program.
>
> Understanding a program as a sequence of instructions does seem like a
> rather old fashioned way of thinking.
>
> But then I thought Perl was post-modern?

Retro is the new post-modern.  See the hordes of users (and possible
future programmers) revelling in the pointy-clicky web world, little do
they realise that the whizziest features they have are often the result of
just a few fairly trivial lines in some archaic-looking text-in-an-xterm.


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Re: Anyone have a spare Sun Keyboard ?

2003-03-10 Thread the hatter
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Leo Lapworth wrote:

> Does anyone have a spare Sun Keyboard I can
> borrow for a month (I'd like to pick it up at
> the tech meet and give it back the social after).

I can probably manage that if you remind me frequently enough.

> I think our keyboard was nicked from the co-lo where it used to live.

If I'm not organised enough on thursday, that'll be where this one is
coming from.  Might be worth blowing 40 quid (or thereabouts) on a new
country kit, when you're in less of a hurry.  And getting over your
aversion of using serial consoles.


the hatter





Re: keyboards

2003-03-08 Thread the hatter
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Toby|Wintrmute wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone knows anywhere selling US/AU style keyboards?
> ie. Ones with the slash above the enter key, and @#$ above the 234 keys,
> etc.

Try rephrasing that question as "Is anyone on-list arriving in london
shortly from US/AU ?"  I suspect that way you'll end up with a keyboard at
a better price (less the pint, to cover personal delivery)  Also a better
chance of getting a specific make, if you care about that.

Oh, and if you follow chris balls suggestion, remember that normal sun
keyboards may have the same physical connector as ps/2, but are not peecee
keyboards.  Though you should be safe with a sun USB unix/us/other layout,
I've used peecee usb keybd/mouse on sun hardware (except you'll
remap a few keys)


the hatter





Re: regrouping lines of STDIN

2003-03-07 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Lusercop wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 01:25:29PM +, Joel Bernstein wrote:
> > Ahh, so that's what he meant. Yeah.  what mbm said 
>  ^^^
> who's this "mbm" character?

Dunno, it displays as 3 characters on my screen.  Maybe "mbm" is a funny
foreign multi-byte character that's sometimes difficult for others to get
to grips with.


the hatter




Re: London.pm Aptitude Test

2003-03-02 Thread the hatter
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Chris Devers wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Dirk Koopman wrote:
>
> > Not doing very well here methinks...
>
> Well, that depends on whether it's better to be closer to or
> further from the London.pm party line, doesn't it?  :)

Then let us add "Will you drink beer with l.pm'ers on thursday the 1st ?"


the hatter




Re: Microptomisation games

2003-02-28 Thread the hatter
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

> > Any function that get's called a million times deserves to be either
> > micro-optomised, or even better inlined. ( inlining saves more than any
> > of the above steps ).
>
>   This is kind of a newbie question, but I never had read anything about
> this: what is an "inlined perl function"? Can somebody point me some
> resources about this technique?

It's the opposite of putting things neatly in subroutines - rather than
calling, pass parameters, and all the processing junk that goes with it,
you just stick the code right in the main routine.  I stumbled into a good
example of that, which didn't intend to be, in URI::Escape
(http://search.cpan.org/author/GAAS/URI-1.23/URI/Escape.pm).  As it
advises, and the benchmarks quoted backs up, don't use the unescape
routine for speed, it's better just to put the regexp into your main code.


the hatter





Re: sshd on port 443

2003-02-12 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Newton, Philip wrote:

> the hatter wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Newton, Philip wrote:
> >
> > > CyberTiger wrote:
> > > > The web cache may timeout the connection.
> > >
> > > Yes :) As I just found out.
> >
> > Ask the server to use KeepAlive ?
>
> Suggestions welcome. How would that work? Add a header "Connection:
> Keep-Alive\r\n" to the negotiation phase, the one where I send "CONNECT
> host:port HTTP/1.0\r\n"?
>
> (Of course, that would mean I'd be back to using my home-grown proxy, rather
> than relying on the proxy support that's built in to PuTTY. Still, if it'll
> help, it's worth trying.)

I was meaning KeepAlive as an sshd directive, rather than an HTTP header,
look in /usr/local/etc/sshd_config (or wherever it is) and see if it
already has "KeepAlive yes" in it.  If not, add it, restart sshd, and
cross your digits.


the hatter






Re: sshd on port 443

2003-02-12 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Newton, Philip wrote:

> CyberTiger wrote:
> > The web cache may timeout the connection.
>
> Yes :) As I just found out.
>
> Using [the ssh connection Pete kindly provided] for five minutes: all is
> fine. (Damn English lack of precedence operators.)
>
> Leave it sitting around for five minutes: the window is gone.
>
> Still: a huge improvement on what I had before.

Ask the server to use KeepAlive ?


the hatter





RFID tags

2003-02-12 Thread the hatter
Someone or another at the pub last week was joking that they'd rather have
RFID tags on stuff than barcoding things.  Well, turns out you can get
tags and readers quite cheaply -
http://www.zygo.btinternet.co.uk/offer011.html  They're 30 quid for a
basic rs232-based reader, and a couple of quid for extra tags.  If there's
lots of interest, I might be persuaded to coordinate a bulk buy - drop me
a mail, and I'll mail anyone back next week, either with prices, or to let
you know to just buy them individually.


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