Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP: Ioct1/1.1a failed:Bad file descriptor

2009-05-28 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have the same problem. Still unresolved.

See this thread.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2009-March/002842.html

2009/5/14 Carl 

> I have had LTSP working fine in a test environment for about a year now.
> I finally got around to setuping up LTSP onto a proper server so that we
> may use it on a larger scale, however I can not get my clients to
> boot.
>
> I am running Ubuntu 9.04 server and get the following error on the
> clients.
>
> Kernel call returned: Broken pipe Reconnecting
> Negotiation: ..size = 185132KB
> Error: Ioct1/1a failed: Bad file descriptor
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] kubuntu 8.04 -> 9.04 performance regressions

2009-05-08 Thread Krsnendu dasa
is ldmdirectx set to yes in both implementations?

2009/4/21 Bjorn Helgaas 

> I run LTSP on an HP t5710 with a HP dc7800 server.  When I was
> on Ubuntu 8.04, performance on the thin client was quite acceptable,
> and youtube videos worked well.  I upgraded to 8.10, then to 9.04
> (9.04 isn't quite released yet, of course, so I'm running the current
> release candidate) to get current versions of openoffice.org.
>
> But overall KDE desktop performance is significantly worse on 9.04,
> and youtube videos (in Firefox) work very poorly.  I do get snippets
> of video and audio, but it's so jerky that it's totally unacceptable.
>
> I haven't had time to investigate this yet, and I suspect that it
> will be quicker to just go back to 8.04.  So this is just FYI to
> see if anybody else sees the same problem.
>
> Bjorn
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Some clients not booting (that used to boot in Hardy)

2009-03-24 Thread Krsnendu dasa
2009/3/17 Krsnendu dasa 

> I have just upgraded Hardy to Intrepid with LTSP backports from Stefane.
> On the server I added ppa repository, then apt-get update then apt-get
> install ltsp-standalone-server
> I moved the old changeroot (actually I deleted it. It would have been
> interesting to try the old one again.) then ran ltsp-build-client to create
> a new client changeroot.
>
>
> I have two types of clients: ones that work and ones that don't.
> The ones that work are P4 with 256MB RAM.
>
> The ones that don't work are Compaq Deskpro EN Series SFF P2 400MHz 64MB
> RAM. These worked fine with Hardy (ltsp 5) and K12LTSP (ltsp 4.2)
> Tried with 128 MB RAM. Still failed.
>
> The ubuntu flash screen comes up then freezes part way across.
>
> Pressing Alt-ctrl-F1 reveals..this is the error message
>
> Negotiation: ..size = 175556KB
> bs=1024, sz=175556
> Kernel call returned: Broken pipe Reconnecting
> Negotiation: ..size = 175556KB
> Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptor
>
> Any ideas what might be wrong?
> Size = 175556KB seems a worry. It is much more than the RAM on the machine.
>
> Can I downgrade to the Intrepid ltsp packages and see if they will work? Is
> it possible to use Hardy changeroot?
>

I  tried this fix from another thread.
In my case(ubuntu 8.10), the problem was caused by the
ltsp-client-setup init script. I solved the issue by comenting out the
stuff about NBD

configure_nbd() {
   # Restart nbd so -persist will work
   nbdcmd=`pgrep -l -f "/dev/nbd0 -persist" | cut -d " " -f "2-"`
   if [ -n "$nbdcmd" ]; then
   nbd-client -d /dev/nbd0
   sleep 0.5s
   nbd-client -c /dev/nbd0
   if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then
   $nbdcmd
   fi
   fi
}

I commented out this part and got a bit further. This is the error I have
now.

Setting up LTSP client...
Disconnecting: que, disconnect, sock, done
[   30.519994] nbd0: Receive control failed (result -32)
Kernel call returned: Broken pipe Reconnecting
Negotiation: ..size = 175556KB
Error: Ioctl/1/1.a failed: Bad file descriptor

Any clues how to fix this?
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[Ltsp-discuss] Changing from 1 nic setup to 2 nic setup - Ubuntu Hardy

2009-01-25 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am using Ubuntu Hardy.

How do I change my server setup from one nic to a setup where the thin
client boot from one nic and the other nic connects to the rest of the
network.

Are there any tricks?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Streaming (on demand) applications - natural development from local applications

2008-12-05 Thread Krsnendu dasa
2008/12/1 Oliver Grawert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> hi,
> Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 11:27 +1300 schrieb Krsnendu dasa:
> > 2008/11/29 David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >     On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Krsnendu dasa
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > If you install more programs to run locally doesn't that
> > make the image
> > > bigger?
> >
> >
> > The image is bigger, sure, but it's still being loaded from
> > the
> > server, and there is no relation between image size and ram
> > usage...
> >
> > I thought the image was loaded into a ramdisk on the thin client?
> no, it is mounted from the server. during boot of a client a tmpfs is
> created in ram for the writeable system bits needed to run the client
> system (this includes system bits of local applications if they run
> indeed)...
>
> in case of local applications, the users /home is additionaly mounted
> via sshfs so that user data goes onto the server right away.
>
> the growth of the image is really a minor factor here, the normal ram
> usage of the app and how many bits it writes in the system area are the
> more importat factors.
> userspace apps rarely use much space in the system area i.e. in case of
> firefox for example all the cached data goes into the users homedir
> (though downloads and flash movies will be cached in /tmp).
>
> Thanks for clarifying.

So to compare
1. Local install:System stored and run from local hard drive. All processes
run by local CPU using local RAM. May mount home directories from server.
2. Low fat (DRBL) clients. System stored and run from Server harddrive, but
writeable system bits are stored in a ramdisk on the client itself. All
processes run by local CPU, using local RAM. Home directories mounted from
the server.
3. Thin Clients with local apps: System stored and run from Server
harddrive. The system filesystem is mounted from the server over the
network. All processes run by server CPU, using server RAM, except for basic
input output services and local apps which run on local CPU and RAM.
(Writeable system bits for local apps are stored in a ramdisk on the client
itself.)  Home directories mounted from the server.
4. Thin clients: System stored and run from Server harddrive. The system
filesystem is mounted from the server over the network. All processes run by
server CPU, using server RAM, except for basic input output services which
run on local CPU and RAM.  Home directories mounted from the server.

So with low fat clients and local apps the advantage is running an
application with local cpu and ram as opposed to server cpu and ram and the
lag associated with it. Is there any lag because the system is reading from
a network drive rather than a local drive? In the case of the multimedia
apps I was trying to run, I thought that some of the lag was due to
accessing the media files, but if the app and the files are on the same
server, the lag must be caused by a delay in sending the audio to the
client. In this case, local apps or low fat client might improve the
situation.

In relationship to this, can you explain the difference between nbd and nfs
for LTSP. As I understand nbd compresses the system image, whereas nfs just
directly mounts the filesystem. I thought that this was used to download a
simplified system image to the ram of the client. Can you please clarify
this a bit more?

Thank you for taking the time to clarify. I hope that clarifying this for me
will also be helpful for others who are confused. I don't think I am alone.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Streaming (on demand) applications - natural development from local applications

2008-11-30 Thread Krsnendu dasa
2008/11/29 David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > If you install more programs to run locally doesn't that make the image
> > bigger?
>
> The image is bigger, sure, but it's still being loaded from the
> server, and there is no relation between image size and ram usage...


I thought the image was loaded into a ramdisk on the thin client?

>
>
> > The case I mentioned involved media files that need to run locally. How
> > would this work with local apps? Wouldn't those files be saved to RAM
> (local
> > swap)? Can you set it up so they are copied to local media instead?
> Running
> > the media files from the server would still have the latency problem
> > wouldn't it?
>
> To run the media files locally you would need to install crossover or
> wine to run the .exe files, and then make sure that is executed
> locally using local apps. The files would then be loaded from whatever
> source you give (be it server, local disk, cdrom, usb stick) and
> executed on the thin client. As far as I know, local swap is not
> enabled by default for local apps. You'd have to do some tests and see
> if it makes a difference loading the media locally or via the network.
> But I imagine you will have more bandwidth to play with if the files
> are loaded locally.

So would you run crossover as a local app? As well as any programs running
under it?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Streaming (on demand) applications - natural development from local applications

2008-11-27 Thread Krsnendu dasa
2008/11/26 David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Advantages:
> > You get the advantage of a locally run application without bloating the
> > system image (ie space needed on the workstation). You also get the
> > advantage of a centrally managed system without having to push out images
> > everytime a new program gets installed.
> >
> > Thoughts for LTSP (Lowfat clients (DRBL) --> Local Apps --> On-demand
> Apps):
> >
> ***
> > The trouble with lowfat clients is that all the programs you want to run
> > have to be installed on the local machine. The more programs you want to
> run
> > the more RAM you need and the longer it takes to download the system on
> > boot. The whole system has to download even if you are not going to use
> all
> > the programs.
>
> These assumptions are incorrect. With a fat client system the images
> are still pushed from the server and use the same image (not one for
> every client.) The system takes no longer to start up than a regular
> thin client system. Once its on the client, the bandwidth usage is far
> less than with a traditional thin client. Ram and local cpu power are
> the 2 things to look out for. Anything below 256MB and 600 mhz is
> better off running as a thin client. Remember that you can have both
> local or server side SWAP, to help out with ram usage too.
>
If you install more programs to run locally doesn't that make the image
bigger?


>
> > Local apps minimise this problem by running most programs on the server,
> but
> > once again any program that you want to run must be downloaded with the
> > system. In the case I described above this would become unmanageable.
> 100MB
> > added to the system for each program would soon fill up RAM. And these
> > programs are only used by a small number of users and only one at at
> time.
> > Streaming (on demand) applications for LTSP:
>
> You are assuming that RAM is incrementally used for programs. It is
> not... The system needs a certain amount on startup to load, and then
> as and when a program needs it, RAM is used. When the program is off,
> the RAM is not used anymore. Your best bet to minimize RAM usage, if
> thats what you are after, is to use local swap (only possible with fat
> clients as far as I know)


The case I mentioned involved media files that need to run locally. How
would this work with local apps? Wouldn't those files be saved to RAM (local
swap)? Can you set it up so they are copied to local media instead? Running
the media files from the server would still have the latency problem
wouldn't it?

>
>
> kind Regards,
> David Van Assche
>
> > With on-demand applications, the size of the system image can be
> minimized.
> > If someone chooses to run a program that needs to run locally, it is
> copied
> > to the RAM disk (or local media) on the client to run locally. This way a
> > range of locally runable applications is available to everyone, but still
> > the system requirements are less for the clients (one of the original
> > advantages of LTSP), because each person is only storing locally the
> > programs they need to run right now.
> >
> > What does everyone think? Isn't this a natural development for LTSP?
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[Ltsp-discuss] Streaming (on demand) applications - natural development from local applications

2008-11-24 Thread Krsnendu dasa
The example below is from the Microsoft world, but it illustrates a feature
/ direction that could be very powerful with LTSP.

I was discussing with an IT expert at school about how to deliver some
multimedia programs we are given by the Ministry of Education here in New
Zealand.

What does the software do:
Every 2 months or so a new title comes out on CD. Each CD contains several
interactive stories. Basically, you read the story on the screen and you can
also listen to the story by clicking the text. By clicking on highlighted
words you can also hear a definition of the word. Finally, you get to do
activities related to the story, such as making a comic strip or writing a
letter.

Technical details:
The software only runs on windows (almost runs on wine). It is created with
Shockwave Director and runs as a standalone exe file with accompanying media
files (MP3s etc.) In total each program takes up about 100MB on disk. Due to
the multimedia nature of the program it is not suitable for thin client use.
I have tried running it with LTSP wine and using MS terminal services. In
both cases latency is a problem. When I mouse over an image, it takes about
a second for the corresponding audio to play.

Traditional approach:
The traditional approach to implementing such programs is to have locally
installed windows xp workstations. A windows  xp image is created containing
these programs. The operating system is installed by copying the image to
the workstations over the network. This is copying of the image is generally
only done once, but needs to be done again everytime a new program is
installed on the image, or in the case where a workstation has operating
system or software problems.

Problem with traditional approach:
The problem is that every time a new CD comes out from the Ministry of
Education, we have to update our image and copy it over to all the PCs on
the network. The image keeps getting bigger, even though only a few people
will actually want to use this program.

Suggested solution (Virtualised On-demand Applications):
Instead of  installing the programs in the image,the applications are
virtualized, allowing them to run without installation. This keeps the image
and image size constant. When a user wants to run a particular program, the
program is copied to the local harddrive (could also be ramdisk or flash
drive) to be run locally.
I didn't ask what software you use to do this, but on wikipedia I found that
VMWare has a program called ThinApp and MS has a similar program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_virtualization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_streaming
I am not sure what is available on linux to do this.
http://searchenterprisedesktop.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid192_gci1328103,00.html

Advantages:
You get the advantage of a locally run application without bloating the
system image (ie space needed on the workstation). You also get the
advantage of a centrally managed system without having to push out images
everytime a new program gets installed.

Thoughts for LTSP (Lowfat clients (DRBL) --> Local Apps --> On-demand Apps):
***
The trouble with lowfat clients is that all the programs you want to run
have to be installed on the local machine. The more programs you want to run
the more RAM you need and the longer it takes to download the system on
boot. The whole system has to download even if you are not going to use all
the programs.

Local apps minimise this problem by running most programs on the server, but
once again any program that you want to run must be downloaded with the
system. In the case I described above this would become unmanageable. 100MB
added to the system for each program would soon fill up RAM. And these
programs are only used by a small number of users and only one at at time.
Streaming (on demand) applications for LTSP:
With on-demand applications, the size of the system image can be minimized.
If someone chooses to run a program that needs to run locally, it is copied
to the RAM disk (or local media) on the client to run locally. This way a
range of locally runable applications is available to everyone, but still
the system requirements are less for the clients (one of the original
advantages of LTSP), because each person is only storing locally the
programs they need to run right now.

What does everyone think? Isn't this a natural development for LTSP?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] FF3+flash10

2008-11-24 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Flash 9.0.48 is better than 9.0.124 on thin clients. Try it. It will be way
less jerky.

2008/11/13 Roman Muñoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Thanks; after loading flash 9 plugin (reported on about:plugins as 9.0
> r124) things got a lot better
>
> It now plays nicely on a p3 500 MHz 64 MB RAM with LDM_DIRECTX=true.
> Using Debian Lenny - xfce
>
> Then I reinstalled flash 10 from adobe's tar.gz (not the deb as
> previously). Surprisingly, tests with it (reported as 10.0 r12 on
> about:plugins) reported aprox the same numbers than Flash 9.
>
> I was expecting a bigger diference. Both played the video well, with
> about 0-2% more on CPU usage for flash 10.
>
> With LDM_DIRECTX=false sound is good, video is somewhat jerky with both
> plugins, but after seeing flash 10 requisites (800 MHz) I will no
> complain about it on a 500 MHz machine.
>
> Cheers,
> Roman
>
> Jordan Erickson wrote:
> > Roman,
> >
> > My tests with Flash 10 caused me to revert back to Flash 9 in my LTSP
> > environments. It seems much too slow for LTSP usage as of right now.
> >
> > - Jordan
> >
> > Roman Muñoz wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I can't get Iceweasel + Flash10 to play video nicely (but sound is good)
> >>
> >> Testing it on a k6-2-400 client with 128 MB RAM, it was the same with or
> >> without LDM_DIRECTX enabled. When enabled, top reports aprox 15% cpu
> idle.
> >>
> >> Video is not good even on a 1GHz client with plenty of RAM (512) and
> >>   LDM_DIRECTX=true. CPU idle was aprox 70%
> >>
> >>
> >> So it seems that is not (lack of) cpu-power related? What could I do?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Roman
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Sound from Windows/Rdesktop

2008-09-03 Thread Krsnendu dasa
2008/9/4 Gideon Romm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> You need to kill pulseaudio daemon.
>
> -Gadi
>
How do you do that?

>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Thin Client's local USB Printer does not work (Ubuntu)

2008-09-02 Thread Krsnendu dasa
search the archives for jetpipe

2008/8/22 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi,
>
> Am running an Ubuntu LTSP5 setup.  I have a separate Debian DHCP/DNS
> server.  I am having trouble with an HP LaserJet 1022 attached to a thin
> client.  I've configured on my lts.conf:
>
> [mac address]
>   PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0
>
> (I also tried putting in Printer port and printer type on the lts.conf)
>
> After configuring the lts.conf, I do a terminal server reboot.
>
> Then I add configure the printer via
> >System >Administration >Printing >New Printer >AppSocket/HP JetDirect
> >Host and Port Number and so on
>
> Whenever I try to print, it says, the printer is not connected
> and when I make another attempt to print, there is a status message
> "recoverable: Network host'192.168.2.50' is busy; will retry in 30
> seconds...
>
> Would appreciate any help.  :)
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] What localapps

2008-08-18 Thread Krsnendu dasa
> And, if you are going to support apps running locally, you'll possibly
> need to support local media, which might get tricky, especially if both
> local apps and remote apps want access to the local media.
>

Sound editing? (Audacity) Would also require local disk space (scratch disk)
I guess.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] few questions on security of /home , mount local hd and vnc

2008-07-24 Thread Krsnendu dasa
> Try installing thin-client-manager-gnome if it's not already in there.
> Should show up under System>Administration, I believe. This is another
> way to see who's logged in from what IP. To get the vnc functionality
> from it you'll have to install a vnc server in the client environment,
> which I'm not going to go into here. There is a howto in the on-line
> edubuntu wiki, I believe, but I've had mixed success after following
> it.
>
I think italc is now the preferred thin-client-manager. It can also work to
or from standalone Linux or Windows computers.
sudo apt-get install italc-master

>
> > - Console
> >  when I do ctrl F1 to open a console and try to log in with the same
> account as the one I use in the GUI, logging fails ( yes I check  kb layout
> and lower/upper case )
>
> Now you're talking about the client's console. To be able to login
> here you need to chroot into the client filesystem (/opt/ltsp/i386/)
> and change the root password. You'll also have to mess with password
> aging or making the account valid IIRC. I had to play with it a bit
> and reboot the client a few times to make it work. Somebody here will
> know exactly what, and it may be in the archives somewhere. Remeber to
> ltsp-update-image after making any changes in the chroot (and use the
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing with Ubuntu 8.05 Hardy Heron and LTSP5

2008-07-16 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I just installed Ubuntu from the 8.04.1 disk and jetpipe was not found in
the changeroot. (/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/jetpipe)
Was it forgotten, or do I have to do something special to get the updates?

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> Am Montag, den 23.06.2008, 19:47 -0700 schrieb Nicholas Metsovon:
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> clients?  I found some posts saying that jetdirect is missing from the
> distribution, but not how to actually get the printing working.
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated!
> that was a bug in the package, it is fixed (together with about 10 other
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[Ltsp-discuss] Crossover Office application works on server not to client.

2008-07-10 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have an application (Folio Views) that works fine on the server as
any user. But it does not run on the terminals. Any ideas why that
would be? Where can I look to fix this problem?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] KIWI-LTSP 0.4.0 released

2008-06-30 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Does it add extra load to the server?
Be cool to get it going on Ubuntu too.

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>> Does compiz also work on ubuntu clients? Is there a trick to set it up
>> or just it just depend on an adequate graphics card?
>>
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> No, it does not - with this very same test environment, just openSUSE. I
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] KIWI-LTSP 0.4.0 released

2008-06-30 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Does compiz also work on ubuntu clients? Is there a trick to set it up
or just it just depend on an adequate graphics card?

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>> Now I got same functions on both systems, Ubuntu 8.04/Gnome and openSUSE
>> 11/KDE4.
>>
>
> LTSP 5 is really great with new hardware like wide flat screens (Acer
> X203w, 20", 1680x1050) - with Compiz:
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] No compiz...?

2008-06-21 Thread Krsnendu dasa
2008/6/20 Ondrej Valousek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> benefits) LTSP existence. Do you think you can do Vista Aero via RDP
> protocol? Guess what the answer is...
>
> Ondrej

Yes?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Load average

2008-05-22 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Can you turn it off?

2008/5/23 Michael Blinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>
>  From what I've read, with compositing, there is an entirely new method
> of drawing windows, and which windows are drawn when. metacity would
> only draw the flat, top-level. I'm not sure if this feature is turned
> off when the effects are set to none, but compiz redraws windows in
> layers (hence the compositing), allowing it to do things like transparency.
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> A shot in the dark, but other than that I've got nothing.
>
> Krsnendu dasa wrote:
>> 2008/5/22 Michael Blinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> The question then becomes, why are my clients so damn sluggish.. maybe
>>> just additional gnome candy over FC6...? For my 15 100Mbit users I have
>>> a GIG NIC & switch and only 5-8 clients on each NIC and switch.
>>>
>>
>>  I would tend to credit the difference to the distribution.
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>> On the same hardware, I find Ubuntu 8.04 way slower than K12ltsp 6
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Load average

2008-05-21 Thread Krsnendu dasa
2008/5/22 Michael Blinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The question then becomes, why are my clients so damn sluggish.. maybe
> just additional gnome candy over FC6...? For my 15 100Mbit users I have
> a GIG NIC & switch and only 5-8 clients on each NIC and switch.

 I would tend to credit the difference to the distribution.

On the same hardware, I find Ubuntu 8.04 way slower than K12ltsp 6
(Fedora 6) was.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Running MsAccess In thin client

2008-05-03 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am able to run MS access well with Crossover Linux. I have even run
one with a module. I don't know about applicatios  tha use MS access
though.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] DELL LCD monitor

2008-04-21 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have the same problem with a monitor in Hardy.
I have tried setting
X_MODE_0 = 1024x768

in lts.conf but it has no effect.


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[Ltsp-discuss] Linux guru in New Zealand

2008-03-12 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am based in Auckland and I am having some problems with my network,
including samba and ldap issues. Does anyone know of someone who could
help me onsite?

Email me off list to let me know about any suggestions. Pay rates etc.

Thanks.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Random screen resolution

2008-03-11 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am also experiencing a similar problem. I have a Direction 17" LCD monitor
that was running fine in Feisty. Since I installed Hardy, it only shows
800x600 resolution. Everything is the same about the client. I tried setting
X_MODE_0 = 1024x768
in lts.conf but it made no difference.

If I boot the terminal with a functioning monitor then swap the monitors,
then the Direction monitor shows the proper resolution.

I swapped it for an HP monitor and that one works ok.

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> Hi Joseph,
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Joseph Gregory wrote:
>
> > Without trying to set the Screen Resolution in lts.conf my single test
> > client usually boots with too high a resolution. However, even that
> > isn't stable.
>
>
> Hmmm...that's weird.  I wonder if it has anything to do with whether the
> monitor is turned on when X starts?
>
> > X_MODE_0 = 1152x864
>
> That syntax is correct, at least for my LTSP 4.2 system.
>
>
> > X_MODE_0 = 1024x768 75 1024 1048 1192 1296 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
>
>
> I haven't messed with setting whole mode lines, so I don't know if that's
> right.
>
>
> > X_HORZSYNC  = 1152
> > X_VERTREFRESH  = 768
>
>
> This is most definitely incorrect!  It's probably just being ignored by X
> if it's being seen.  Each of those settings should be a range of much
> smaller numbers which has nothing to do with a particular video mode but
> is a function of the monitor specs that you should be able to find in a
> manual for the monitor.  Here is an example of how it looks for a run of
> the mill 17" CRT monitor we have:
>
>  X_MODE_0= 1152x864
>  X_HORZSYNC  = 30-70
>  X_VERTREFRESH   = 50-160
>
> Note that you need the right four numbers for those last two lines, you
> can't just use mine (unless it's the same monitor!).
>
> You should also make sure that your terminal hostnames are being set
> properly and that you have a hostname section in our lts.conf file and
> that you're applying the right configuration on the right machine, etc.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How much Swap is sensible?

2008-03-11 Thread Krsnendu dasa
512 MB Ram is heaps for a terminal. Probably don't need any swap.

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> As I'm building a new server, there is the question of the quantity of
> swap space given to the terminals.
>
> The terminals all have 512 MB RAM. Up to now, we have 512 MB swap. Would
> it make sense to give them 1024 MB instead, or would that have
> side-effects like longer response times or such?
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> Thanks for your tipps.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Interesting thin clients

2008-02-23 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Interesting. If only it had lcd and no HDD. That would be cool.

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> I came across a all in one integrated machine which is being used as
> thin client. This is retailing in India for Rs3500 (~USD80) The system
> has single shell with built in 14: color monitor with i810 card and
> 128mb RAM and a 4gb hard disk (quite useless for us). It has spanish
> keyboard with built in mouse pad (like a lap top) and also a phone
> handset.
>
> Great price. Let us see how it wears off. I have put up some pictures on
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Software RAID vs Hardware RAID

2007-11-08 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On 08/11/2007, Sebastien Koechlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 6, 2007 5:00 PM, Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Raid 10?
>
> If you try to increase disk throughput, yes; but LVM2 is really,
> really more powerful than aggregation.
>

Translation? RAID 10 with LVM2 on it is faster / better than RAID 10 (What
about RAID 10 with LVM2 on it?)

I have 4 SATA2 HDDs. At present 2 drives are mounted (each partition) Linux
Software RAID 1. The other drives are basically just spares. It seems to be
a waste to me. Won't I be better off with Linux Software RAID10, so I can
use all the drives and get the increased performance?

Thanks for clarification,
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Software RAID vs Hardware RAID

2007-11-08 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Raid 10?

On 06/11/2007, Sebastien Koechlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 6, 2007 2:34 AM, Donny Christiaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What about if I use 4x250Gb (SATA-II) and I would like to use Software
> > RAID-5 ?
> >
> > Is it recomended for LTSP server ? I'll use k12ltsp-6.
>
> To do reliable Raid-5, you need a hardware card with battery powered
> Ram or NVRam. As every hardware raid, you also need a spare card with
> same firmware version. A really high cost compared to software Raid-1.
>
> This is because you can not do atomic writes on many disk as it is
> required by Raid-5 (you can read linux kernel documentation to have
> more details).
>
> How critical is your server ? If you can have a full day of downtime
> to restore from backup, software Raid-5 is ok; but usually, the cost
> is higher than adding or upgrading Raid-1 disks.
>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LocalApps: It's alive!!

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On 02/11/2007, Jim Kronebusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:43:44 -0400 (EDT), Jason Maas wrote
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> >
> > > Out of curiosity can we have a brief technical overview of how this is
> > > accomplished?
> >
> > I have nothing to do with the design, but here is what you're looking
> for:
> >
> >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps
> >
> > I found that by starting here:
> >
> >https://launchpad.net/ltsp
> >
> > Jason
>
> Ultimately what I'd like to do, is run my server 100% 64-bit.  Then any
> 32-bit only apps
> load in the client, such as Java or Flash etc. given that the clients are
> 32-bit.  I'd
> also like to offload multimedia apps and Firefox locally.  Also I assume
> that if an app
> such as Firefox runs locally, then my content filter would see the clients
> IP address
> and not the servers which would give me more ability in logging and user
> control.
>
> I'm excited.  I hope this is to a point where we can play by Christmas
> break.


What would be the minimum specs for running local apps?

I am particularly thinking of a voip application like ekiga or twinkle.
Another candidate for local apps is Rhythmbox or Amarok.

We have 300MHz Celerons and P2s with 64MB RAm (can upgrade to 128MB). Would
this be enough?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Fixed: Notice the unnecessary spaces after the = signs?
Doh!!!

On 01/11/2007, Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone actually used the terminals to print with Feisty or Gutsy. It
> seems most people use stand alone network printers.
> There was a change in printing system in LTSP 5 to jet pipe. I suspect
> there is a bug.
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny this suspicion?
>
> Krsnendu dasa
>
> On 31/10/2007, Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 30/10/2007, Scott Balneaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:27:32AM +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote:
> > > > PRINTING DETAILS
> > > > I get a "network host is busy" message from CUPS.
> > >
> > > When you telnet to the host, can you connect?
> >
> >
> > No.
> >
> > i.e.
> > >
> > > telnet  9100
> > >
> > > Do you get connected?
> >
> >
> > No.
> >
> > If you type some text, does it come out on the printer?
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > I tried
> >
> > [ws043]
> >  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
> > #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
> > PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
> > PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
> >
> > [ws043]
> >  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
> > #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
> > PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
> > PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
> >
> > [ws043]
> >  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
> > #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
> > PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
> > PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usb/lp0
> >
> > Any other ideas. It worked find with K12ltsp6
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Has anyone actually used the terminals to print with Feisty or Gutsy. It
seems most people use stand alone network printers.
There was a change in printing system in LTSP 5 to jet pipe. I suspect there
is a bug.

Can anyone confirm or deny this suspicion?

Krsnendu dasa

On 31/10/2007, Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 30/10/2007, Scott Balneaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:27:32AM +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote:
> > > PRINTING DETAILS
> > > I get a "network host is busy" message from CUPS.
> >
> > When you telnet to the host, can you connect?
>
>
> No.
>
> i.e.
> >
> > telnet  9100
> >
> > Do you get connected?
>
>
> No.
>
> If you type some text, does it come out on the printer?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> I tried
>
> [ws043]
>  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
> #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
> PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
> PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
>
> [ws043]
>  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
> #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
> PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
> PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
>
> [ws043]
>  #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
> #With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
> PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
> PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usb/lp0
>
> Any other ideas. It worked find with K12ltsp6
>
>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-11-04 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On 30/10/2007, Scott Balneaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:27:32AM +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote:
> > PRINTING DETAILS
> > I get a "network host is busy" message from CUPS.
>
> When you telnet to the host, can you connect?


No.

i.e.
>
> telnet  9100
>
> Do you get connected?


No.

If you type some text, does it come out on the printer?
>
> Scott
>
>
I tried

[ws043]
 #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
#With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U

[ws043]
 #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
#With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usblp0

[ws043]
 #C300 3rd from desk - HP Laserjet 2200 Duplex Printer
#With HP Deskjet 5550 Printer
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
PRINTER_0_DEVICE   = /dev/usb/lp0

Any other ideas. It worked find with K12ltsp6
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[Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-10-29 Thread Krsnendu dasa
We have some students here helping with a project that runs out in a few weeks.
We have tried installing and Feisty and Gutsy, but have run into
problems with both.

Feisty: Printing doesn't work on the client
Gutsy: SMBLDAP doesn't work
Not sure about the printing.

Both of these are show stoppers.
I would prefer to go with Gutsy, but we definitely need both printing
and SMBldap working.

PRINTING DETAILS
I get a "network host is busy" message from CUPS.

Has the syntax changed from Ltsp 4.2?
It used to be:
PRINTER_0_TYPE=/dev/usb/lp0

Here is my lts.conf file.

[default]
   SOUND=True
   LOCALDEV=True
   NBD_SWAP=True
   SYSLOG=server
[00:50:8b:49:72:dc]
#[ws043]
 SOUND=True
   LOCALDEV=True
   NBD_SWAP=True
   SYSLOG=server
PRINTER_0_DEVICE=U
PRINTER_0_TYPE=/dev/usblp0

The printer is plugged in and the ip address / mac addresses are right.
I know this because it works when I boot the client from K12LTSP6 and
print from edubuntu's CUPS.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] swap

2007-10-15 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On 09/10/2007, Erwin Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for my late response and thanks for your suggestion regarding the
> swap-stuff.
> Indeed, after some time, I need to add more physical memory, I suppose.
> For now I used USE_LOCAL_SWAP = Y which did the trick.


This is interesting. Have you got  hard drive in your terminals?

Thanks again!
>
> Erwin.
>
>
> Jim McQuillan wrote:
> > Erwin,
> >
> > It sounds like you need more ram, or swap configured on the server.
> >
> > The settings in lts.conf are ONLY for the clients, not the server.
> >
> >
> > You could increase the amount of swap you have configured on the server,
> > but that usually means either increasing the size of your swap partition
> > on your hard disk, or adding another hard disk for swapping.
> >
> > Increasing the size of your swap partition, or creating an additional
> > swap partition can be difficult, depending on how you've set up your
> > hard disk.  If you used LVM, then it's not difficult to change
> > filesystem sizes, to make room for more swap.  If you haven't used LVM,
> > then it's much more difficult.
> >
> > I think in the long run, it will just be much easier to add more
> > physical ram to the server.
> >
> > Jim McQuillan
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Erwin Groeneveld wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> My ltsp-system works perfectly well until I add more clients to it.
> >> Since buying extra memory is not very attractive (Senegal, not very
> >> rich) it should be nice to specify an option to use either more the
> >> memory in the server (1GB) or in the clients (128 MB).
> >>
> >> I've read about lts.conf-options, like "nbd_swap = y" or f.e.
> >> "use_local_swap = y", but what is the best option? Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Greetings and have a nice weekend you all!
> >>
> >> Erwin.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Fwd: Unsupported Crossover (Wine) app installed in managed mode only runs as root.

2007-10-15 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On 06/10/2007, Scott Balneaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Krsnendu dasa wrote:
> > I am cross posting this to the ltsp lists as I got no response from the
> > Crossover list and this software is essential for our school system
> > which I need to get running by Monday.
>
> Are the users members of all the necessary groups? (i.e. audio, cdrom, etc
> Scott
>

The users are regular smbldap users who are members of students group.
I don't think they are members of the audio group. Sound works fine for
gcompris (-x), tuxpaint and flash videos in Firefox. Does that make any
difference?
Is it the users or the application which needs to be the a member audio
group?

I've also noticed a bug previously mentioned that when Crossover pops up an
x message it takes a long time. When running as root I have to wait for over
a minute for the box to come up which says, "You are running as root do yo
uwant to continue?" Once I chose always continue, the start up time for
windows applications became a lot quicker.

All help is greatly appreciated. One of the main reasons for switching from
K12ltsp to edubuntu is because it can run these multimedia programs. I hope
we can get it going soon. It is one feature our principal has been wanting
for for years.

Thanks.
Krsnendu dasa
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Fwd: Unsupported Crossover (Wine) app installed in managed mode only runs as root.

2007-10-12 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Update:
I put esd as the sound driver for Crossover.
As a result:
Root works fine on the thin clients with sound.
The local user with administrative rights that was created at
installation time works fine with sound.
However:
smbldap users don't work at all.
another locally created user doesn't run properly. The program loads
then freezes then works for a short while then freezes again. There is
some sound.

The rights for the main executable are root:root rwxr-xr-x
I tried changing the owner and group of this file and it didn't seem
to make any difference. Local admin user can run it fine as it is.

The only difference I could see between admin user and other local
user is membership of video group, but couldn't find an option to join
that group. Neither admin or local user are members of the audio
group.

Any other clues about what changes could be made to allow other users
to run the program like the local admin user?

I feel we have made progress but we are not sure what to try next. Any
help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Krsnendu dasa


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> Krsnendu dasa wrote:
> > I am cross posting this to the ltsp lists as I got no response from the
> > Crossover list and this software is essential for our school system
> > which I need to get running by Monday.
>
> Are the users members of all the necessary groups? (i.e. audio, cdrom, etc)
>
> Scott
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[Ltsp-discuss] Fwd: Unsupported Crossover (Wine) app installed in managed mode only runs as root.

2007-10-05 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am cross posting this to the ltsp lists as I got no response from the
Crossover list and this software is essential for our school system which I
need to get running by Monday.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 1 Oct 2007 13:12
Subject: Unsupported app installed in managed mode only runs as root.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am running Ubuntu Feisty and CXL 6.1
I have installed a multimedia program provided by the New Zealand Ministry
of Education that is based on shockwave director.
I installed it at home in single user mode and it runs well as on the main
box as well as remotely with ltsp 5.
When I went to install it at school I chose multiuser managed mode. The root
can run the program no problem from the server (but not from a thin client.)
For the end users (who are the ones who really matter), the program can be
started but a system beep is heard and the program freezes when it starts.
This is the same whether on the server or the thin client. I saw an error
message box at one stage saying "I/O error"

I guess it is a permissions problem but I don't know where to start. Can
anyone offer any tips how to fix this problem?

Thanks.

Krsnendu dasa

Update: If I wait a few minutes the program seems to respond temporarily
before freezing again. The is no sound however and sound is essential.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Keeping sessions open?

2007-09-10 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Is NX really faster than VNC on a LAN?

On 03/09/07, Anton Vaaranmaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fredrik Kjellman kirjoitti:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to get my user sessions to stay active even after the user
> logged out (as an alternative to closing the whole session). Is it possible
> to keep their workspace open when they turn of their thin client, and than
> (perhaps at another client) reconnect to this session and make it active
> again?
>
> > Best regards,
> > Fred
>
> NomachineNX FreeNX does this and the speed is better than VNC, straight
> X or X thru ssh. I log into my ltsp-desktop over the internet (DSL) and
> the responsiveness is as good as if I was on the same LAN.
>
> The only drawback on NX is that it breaks (*) the $DISPLAY environment
> variable hence you can't run NX on your thin client with local devices.
>
> (*) NX server side works like a X proxy and as a result the display
> variable points to the remote machine - and not the ltsp-client where
> your Xserver is running.
>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Watching youtube videos

2007-08-30 Thread Krsnendu dasa
just install flash plugin for firefox and it should work.
Works for me.
Krsnendu

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> Damien,
>   Yes. Many users at the same time.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] MS Access with LTSP?

2007-08-25 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Pitfalls.
There is an issue running queries from MSExcel using the wizard. But
queries work if you save the query then run it directly.

On 26/08/07, Krsnendu dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am running it successfully under the latest Crossover Office. I
> guess Wine would also work.
>
> On 26/08/07, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've not yet messed with LTSP, so pardon the newbie question.
> >
> > Have a client that is using a MS Office 2000 Access database someone
> wrote.
> > They want to have a
> > mess of people remotely access this application.  Obviously, its not
> > web-based, you need to use MS
> > Access.
> >
> > Is there a way to perhaps run Access under Wine and use LTSP to provide
> > access to it?  Any pitfalls?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] MS Access with LTSP?

2007-08-25 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am running it successfully under the latest Crossover Office. I
guess Wine would also work.

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>
> I've not yet messed with LTSP, so pardon the newbie question.
>
> Have a client that is using a MS Office 2000 Access database someone wrote.
> They want to have a
> mess of people remotely access this application.  Obviously, its not
> web-based, you need to use MS
> Access.
>
> Is there a way to perhaps run Access under Wine and use LTSP to provide
> access to it?  Any pitfalls?
>   Thanks.
>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Reference for lts.conf and dhcpd.conf

2007-07-22 Thread Krsnendu dasa

There is also a file in the system listing parameters
/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz (you
need to decompress it first)



On 21/07/07, Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Friday 20 July 2007 20:17, Scott Balneaves wrote:
> Well, the dhcpd.conf hasn't changed all that much.  It's pretty well
> documented in man(1) dhcpd.conf.
>
> As for the lts.conf, check out the Edubuntu handbook, which has the most
> up-to-date info on lts.conf:
>
> http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/

Thanks Sudev and Scott.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Independent clients

2007-07-13 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Do you mean like this?
http://drbl.sourceforge.net/

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> Good day. I was wondering if you can run LTSP without actually mounting NFS
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP Server and client IP Addresses

2007-07-13 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I third that. I have ipcop running with Dansguardian been going for 5
years with not problems.

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> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:41:43 -0400, Rob Owens wrote
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> > > ave a old windows firewall that I want to change to Monowall. My
> > > colleague is busy typing up a list of books we would like to buy, but
> > > we have to apply to the government for approval and funds. We should
> > > get them by the end of the decade.
> > >
> > > After that we can apply for another computer ... as we say at home
> > > Yeah, right.
> >
> > Take a look at IPCop  http://ipcop.org/
> > I have a friend who's running his company firewall using IPCop on a 486
> > machine.
>
> I second the idea of taking a look at ipcop.  I have been running it in 
> various
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[Ltsp-discuss] How to try the latest builds of LTSP 5.

2007-06-29 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have been using ltsp 4.2 (K12ltsp 6 and earlier) for a few years now
and now I want to get up to speed with ltsp 5. I have downloaded
Edubuntu Gutsy Gibbon Daily build and I have installed it as a VMware
VM. How do I keep it up to date to try out the latest ltsp 5 features?
Do I just run all the updates to Edubuntu, or is there a way I can
just update the ltsp part without affecting the Ubuntu part? (DirectX
script etc.)

I also have a Edubuntu Feisty VM at school that I am experimenting
with using real clients and I have a regular Ubuntu installation at
home that I am testing with 64bit VMware clients.

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[Ltsp-discuss] pulse audio & Crossover/wine sound with LTSP

2007-06-23 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am getting pressure from my principal to install a Windows Terminal
Server so we can run New Zealand Ministry of Education multimedia
programs (Shockwave Director). I would much rather have everything
running on Linux. (No need for another server /higher load on current
server using VMware machine.)

I have Crossover Office installed.
At home on my Ubuntu Feisty desktop I have installed one program and
it seems to run ok.
At school on K12LTSP6 (Fedora 6) I was unsuccessful installing a
similar program.

Now assuming I can get the programs to run on the server, how do I get
sound to the terminals? Will it automatically redirect or do I have to
change the audio output for crossover office? I have tried using the
esd driver without success for MSPowerpoint.

Pulse Audio sounds promising. Running multimedia apps over the network
lead to subpar performance. I am hoping that pulse audio will fix this
problem. What is the position of pulse audio at present? Can I run my
Windows multimedia programs successfully on terminals using Crossover
Office and pulse audio? If so are there any tips how to do it?

As well as the K12LTSP6 server at school, I also have and edubuntu VM
that I can use for testing, if changing to Ubuntu might solve my
problems.

Thanks.
Krsnendu dasa

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] identd on LTSP

2007-05-22 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Can you send a howto for this. I would be interested in doing this. I
have K12LTSP 6 running behind ipcop with Dansguardian.

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> >
> >
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> > We are using a Smoothwall Express firewall setup with Dansguardian/Squid
> set to request ident responses.  However, when I run an ident server
> (oidentd or ident2) on our LTSP box and more than 5 people start accessing
> the internet, the server is overrun with ident requests and it slows to a
> crawl.  Is anyone here using a similar setup that is working?
> I had a similar problem with identd on a K12LTSP server making the system
> basically unusable when more than a few people were browsing.
>
> My solution was to have a copy of Squid running on the K12LTSP server that
> cached to a small amount of RAM only and performed user authentication
> against Samba (I found Samba authentication the easiest to get running).
> Squid then passes the request and the username to my real proxy server
> (Dansguardian / Squid / Squidguard).
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> web apps running on that server.
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[Ltsp-discuss] dhcpd setting for booting clients from a 4.2 server and a 5 server

2007-05-09 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have an Edubuntu virtual server running under VMware server running
on K12LTSP 6.
K12 works fine. I have tested Edubuntu also by turning off dhcpd on
K12. That works too.
Now what I would like is that all clients continue to boot from K12
and only one or two (one virtual and one physical client) boot from
Edubuntu for testing.

What settings do I need to put in the dhcpd-k12ltsp.conf file to make
this work. Do I have to change the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file in any
way? Should dhcp be enabled on edubuntu or not?

Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I think LTSP 5 is very exciting
and I want to keep up to speed with it.

Thanks.
Krsnendu dasa

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Finding terminals in standby mode

2007-04-17 Thread Krsnendu dasa
On Windows I used to use an app called friendly pinger and another
called whats up to create a graphical map of which computers are
connected and which are disconnected. Is there an equivalent for
Linux? It doesn't have to be gui but I remember friendly pinger and
whats up were quite intuitive.

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> I've made a small monitoring app that scans two lists to see
>
> 1) which terminal is in standby mode or off
>
> or
>
> 2) which terminal is in use and by whom
>
> The latter is simple, you just have to parse "who". The first thing was
> somewhat trickier, and eventually I used "ps aux" for it. The drawback
> is that when you power off a terminal, this will appear only after about
> 10 minutes or so.
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> Does someone know a faster method? Thanks for all hints...
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Windows programs on LTSP

2007-02-16 Thread Krsnendu dasa
You can also install windows xp and one user can access it using
rdesktop at a time (or windows xp sp2 and install termiserv.exe which
allows remote access for more than one user simultaneously.) Search
the archives. There should be some reference to it.

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> Thanks for that Verner, are there other ways of doing this avoiding the MS 
> 2003 terminal server licences or am I stuck with the wretched stuff because I 
> need to run a windows application?  I have tried to run the wretched thing in 
> WINE and it doesn't want to play.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Verner Kjærsgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 February 2007 21:11
> To: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Windows programs on LTSP
>
> Onsdag 14 februar 2007 12:16 skrev Bill Alsbury:
> > I am sure this has been asked before but I couldn't find it in the
> > archive so if someone could point me in the right direction I would be
> > most grateful.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am looking to implement a LTSP solution as I have serious bandwidth
> > issues and mostly non IT literate staff.  My major problem is that I
> > have some specialist software for producing documents with symbols for
> > users with learning difficulties that appears to be only available on
> > windows.  I want to get rid of all my windows servers for Linux based
> > ones so I need to know if I install the software on a windows VM on the
> > LTSP server can the workstations access it via LTSP.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not sure how the VM/LTSP combination works and would welcome any
> > advice on how to resolve the issue as being unable to do this could mean
> > a MSTS solution, an area to be avoided if possible. ;-))
> >
> >
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Alsbury
> >
> > Spectrum -'Making a Significant Difference'
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> You could do that, it would work provided that you've got some potent
> hardware, lots of memory and so.
> But, given that,  it would work just fine.
>
> On your clients linux desktop with an icon starting "rdesktop" with lots of
> parameters, or
> doing a SCREEN_01 = "rdesktop" ..lots of parameters... - in
> your /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf file will save your day.
>
> This is an example line from one of my lts.conf's:
>
> SCREEN_01 = "rdesktop -r disk:drives=/Drives -r sound:local -k da -a
> 15 -N -s "C:\Windows\System32\notepad.exe" 172.16.3.1"
>
> Check what "man rdesktop" says.
>
> Get a free VMware server, install it in the belly of your LTSP server, install
> some MS-Windows 2003 terminal server virtualized in that VMware instance. And
> off you go.
>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] New Esound/Pulse for Flash [was: Notes on Flash 9 sound for LTSP]

2007-01-13 Thread Krsnendu dasa
 1


Beta testing went like a charm here (for the esd part). Is there any

available drop-in pulseaudio server to install in the lstp tree?



This would be great. Sounds like pulse audio is just what ltsp needs.

Thanks.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] win xp (hacked)

2006-12-08 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Yes but must use workgroup mode not domain mode.

The email is a good starting point.

http://www.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2006-June/msg00305.html

P.S. To search the archives type this into google:
 site:www.redhat.com/archives/k12osn

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Sending message to all clients

2006-11-14 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
Install Teachertool it allows you to send messages to all clients (gui) as well as heaps of other cool tricks.On 14/11/06, stoychev <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hello :) I've one question. First of all I wanna apologize if there is
answer but I couldn't find it. The question is: Is there way to sendmessage to all clients connected to server at same time? Somethingurgent or so. Thanks
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] VoIP status?

2006-11-04 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
Do you mean pulse audio?

On 04/11/06, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With MueKow more or less done, what is the status of VoIP? Skype,
> twinkle, and kphone talk to the alsa API. I vaguely recall that
> portaudio can transparently forward an alsa device. Is this still the
> plan? What is the status on replacing esd with portaudio?
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Comparison of LTSP & PXES

2006-09-22 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
How is the sound in PXES?

On 23/09/06, Ashish Nabira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it's still freely downloadable from
> http://downloads.2x.com/pxes/. I tried all the options of PXES and it
> works well even if you want image for LTSP.
>
> I use PXES when I want to work with Windows 2003 and terminal server.
> Otherwise LTSP is best. !!
>
> Thanks & regards
> Ashish Nabira
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>
> Frank Bergmann wrote On 09/22/06 20:49,:
> > I used PXES for some years. I think the main difference is the
> > config-program which makes it realy nice for admins to customize kernels and
> > config params for the client (gui<-> lts.conf). Moreover, D.T. Milano
> > integrated NX, RDP, X11 and (optionally) a local window manager from which
> > you can open the preconfigured connections. Really nice, but Diego sold it
> > to 2X and I personaly prefer "free" software.
> >>From ltsp point of view there is no "real" difference, because the
> > connection to the server is usually made by xdmcp, too.
> > Frank
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Todd
> > Shoemaker
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2006 14:52
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Betreff: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Comparison of LTSP & PXES
> >
> >
> > I had to use Google to discover that PXES is 2X ThinClient.
> >
> > I believe 2X uses RDP or NX, both of which are 'buffered' remote
> > displays, meaning that on the server a local snapshot of the graphical
> > display is kept in memory, and periodically the differences that have
> > occurred on the display are compressed and sent to the remote terminal
> > (this is also how the Sun Ray system works, too, I believe).  This
> > methodology has a couple of advantages: (1) on slow, high-latency
> > connections such as the Internet or a slower WAN, the remote client will
> > get much better performance, (2) the client can disconnect or lose their
> > connection, but they can reconnect at a later time and the display is
> > still there, since the display was present on the server at all times.
> >
> > LTSP uses normal remote X11, which does not keep a display buffer on the
> > server and has no native compression.  This makes it very poor on slow,
> > high-latency connections, and if the user disconnects or the connection
> > drops, there is no way to restore the display; the user must login
> > again.  However, the primary benefit of LTSP is that X11 is virtually
> > indistinguishable from a local desktop when running on a LAN, because
> > there is no buffering to slow things up.  RDP or NX are pretty snappy
> > over a good Internet connection, but they don't get much faster when run
> > over a LAN.  Even casual users can distinguish between an RDP session
> > and a local desktop (menus are not as snappy, scrolling is affected,
> > video or flash animations are affected), whereas they cannot normally
> > distinguish remote X11 from a local desktop for most non-game
> > applications.
> >
> > -Todd
> >
> > Ashish Nabira wrote:
> >
> >>Hello All;
> >>
> >>May I know advantages of LTSP over PXES ??
> >>
> >>LTSP requires NFS which pxes doesn't require. But when I test both
> >>setup
> >>for SUSE 10.1 , I found that LTSP was faster as compared to PXES.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Raid 1 or Raid 5? New server advice.

2006-08-19 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
Why are Opteron's recommended? On Anandtech, Tom's Hardware etc they
all say that the new Xeon Dual Core beats the Opteron hands down.On 18/08/06, Hieromonk Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I'd like to thank you all for your extremely valuable assistance in helping
us with our new server purchase.  We ordered the Dell that I originallyasked about, with a few minor changes.The discussion, however, did open me up to looking very seriously at Opteronsystems -- something that I had never really considered.  They do certainly
appear to have strong advantages over an Intel Xeon system.  Unfortunately,no matter how hard I tried, I could not come up with a comparable Opteronsystem for the price of the Dell... certainly not with support.  And I'm not
going to be here forever (I hope), so I do have to consider the legacy Ileave others with.  Not to mention, I travel from time to time, so if thesystem has problems when I am away, they're going to need to call someone
for help... and not me!Jim McQuillan, you made a very valid point that I did not get a chance toaddress -- why raid?  You are right.  People these days do tend to just takethat for granted.  I've taken flak for not having a raid on our current main
server through the years.  I back up all our data to another machine everynight, and to tape every week.  Even with that, though, when the scsi drivewent out earlier this year, we lost a couple of days worth of data, and were
fortunate to have only lost that.  I'm still living with the consequences ofthat, as at the time, I was backing it up to a Windows box -- so all thetimestamps are all the same for all data files.  What a pain in the neck!
Now we have it going to a Linux server, where I can control that better.I didn't watch the logs close enough, so I got myself into trouble.  Had Iseen what was happening, yes, I could have taken steps to avoid this
disaster, of sorts.  I had a separate server set up to use in the event ofan emergency like this.  I could have copied all the files over to it, andhad it up and running in two or three hours.But what happens if I'm gone and a drive goes out?  Hopefully the raid will
take care of that.But you are absolutely right, in that not all servers need raid.  And if youhave good backups and enough technically competant people that can handleproblems when they arise, have at it...  Why bother with a raid?
All in all, though, it has been a very good learning experience.  I'velearned more than I ever cared to learn in this process, and I have lostthat nice feeling I had when I was "happy" with the Dell that we spec'd out
(ignorance truly is bliss, in some cases), but none-the-less, I am trulythankful for all the help.Maybe next time we'll find some way to swing an Opteron system.Of course, there is also the factor of "No one ever got fired for buying a
___."  I don't like doing business that way, but I'll get a lot less flak ifsomething goes wrong with the Dell, than had I built it myself, or boughtone from some lesser known companyAnyway, I need to get to work.  I have to figure out why our backup server
stopped running.  The power supply went out a couple of weeks ago.  I movedit to a whole different case.  It ran fine for four days.  Now I don't knowwhat is going on with it.  But it won't run even overnight now.
And our phone system insists on having at least one phone down at alltimesI need a vacation!  Or some technically competant helpAnyway -- thank you again for all of your help and advice.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Volume control applet?

2006-07-17 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
Sounds :) great. I look forward to it.On 15/07/06, Scott Balneaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 04:25:04PM +0200, Abri le Roux wrote:> Hi there,>> I was wondering if anyone knows of a volume control applet that can be
> used to control the volume of ESD? Currently I can control volume in> some of the applications themselves (such as Rhytmbox and Totem), but> it would be nice to have a real volume applet that understands ESD :)
The problem is, ESD itself can't set volumes: it's not in the protocol.That's why LTSP developers are now looking to move over to afuller-fledged sound server solution like Polyp/Pulseaudio, or MAS.
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] do NOT use terminal SERVER as station??!! *was* Re: chipset / VGA for terminal server JKJK

2006-06-26 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
I had the experience that if I used the server as a workstation and it
freezes as happened to me occasionally I needed to reboot the machine
hosing all other terminals. If I had the same problem on the client I
could just restart the client and everyone else kept running fine.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Why no open-source TS server for Windows?

2006-05-24 Thread Krsnendu Dasa

You mean like MS Access. Can you explain more.

Gudmund Areskoug wrote:


Hi,

Paul VanGundy wrote:
 


All,

Implementing LTSP into a Windows based environment can be done in such a way
that it is seemless and users notice little difference. I know that this
subject is about an open-source TS server for Windows, but why would you
need one when you can have LTSP clients authenticating against a Windows
ADS? In my organization we have a Windows Active Directory infrastructure.
One of the issues I was facing when pushing for Linux and open source
software was making it seemless and as easy to use as it's proprietary
counterparts. I was able to get both our Ubuntu 6.06 with LTSP 4.2 to
authenticate against our Windows 2003 ADS as well as our K12LTSP 4.4.2 box.
Now users can log in with the same usernames and passwords they use for the
Windows 2000/XP boxes. Authenticating is done against AD via kerberos and
winbind and things are running very smoothly. 


So to get to the point, I don't know why any would want an open source
version of TS on a Windows box when you can integrate K12LTSP or a
distribution of your choice with LTSP on in into an already existing Windows
infrastructure with ease. 
   



just adding some info that might be handy when integrating:
Some app's, like e. g. those using the MSJet database engine, may run
into problems if you put the databases on a Linux file server.

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[Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Getting sound going with videos

2006-02-06 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
I tried the advice given and now I get a message, cannot open/initialize 
audio device -> no sound.

This is the same whether I use commandline or gui.

In the gui, if I go to sound config  there is no esd driver (only oss, 
alsa, mpg etc.) should there be?


Shawn Powers wrote:


On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:47 AM, Krsnendu Dasa wrote


Any tips how to get this working?



I don't know the exact file location (and I think it can vary based  
on install) but you want to find the config file for mplayer.  For  
the individual user it is almost always in:


/home/user/.mplayer/config

my system-wide file is in:

/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

The items in the user file override the items in the system wide  
file.  In my system wide file, I have:


vo=xvidix,xv,x11
ao=esd,alsa

mplayer attempts to use those in order.  "vo" means video output.   
xvidix is great if you have an ati card.  xv is accelerated (allows  
scaling) and x11 is sorta the "works on most" driver, but hardware  
scaling is not supported.  I find that order listed works best for me.


the "ao" means audio output.  Make sure esd is listed first.

Hope that helps!  Don't forget to install mplayerplug-in as well!   
(It allows embedded video in firefox)


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[Ltsp-discuss] Audacity

2006-02-05 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
I am about to begin on a class project of producing podcasts. Does 
audacity work well from Thin clients? I imagine it would put quite a 
heavy load on the server HD. Would it be advisable to use local HD? If 
so how? Any other suggestions?



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[Ltsp-discuss] Getting sound going with videos

2006-02-03 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
I have managed to get mplayer installed and it plays the video on the 
terminals for many different formats :)

Unfortunately it doesn't play any sound :{
Any tips how to get this working?

I am currently using k12ltsp 4.2. (I also have k12ltsp 4.4 server but I 
haven't played around with the sound on that one yet.)
I get sound (ESD) with the following programs at present TuxMath, 
TuxPaint, GCompris, XMMS, Flash websites using Firefox.
I have tried Totem also but I have found Mplayer easier to use. I have 
also tried Windows media player under Crossover Office 5. All are the 
same - video but no sound.


I tried installing Realplayer. Unfortunately I installed version 10 and 
I can't figure out how to uninstall it so I can try version 8.



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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Cheapest and best way to expand LTSP network

2006-01-25 Thread Krsnendu Dasa

Benjamin Green wrote:


On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:45:24 -, Krsnendu Dasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

3. The tutorial was inappropriate for primary school. The example  
graphics were photos of sexual stone carvings (like kama sutra)!




I'll forward the last comment to the scribus list. Can't think of the
tutorial
you are talking about.


It is the scribus tutorial - Getting started with Scribus on their 
website. The image on the front page is a carving of nude woman. Not 
really primary school material. A shame because the rest of the tutorial 
seems pretty good.



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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Cheapest and best way to expand LTSP network

2006-01-25 Thread Krsnendu Dasa

Benjamin Green wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:50:28 -, Krsnendu Dasa 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:


During a newspaper production project, when we had more than ten 
clients  running simultaneously using Scribus and OpenOffice or 
Firefox, things  slowed down a bit and we had a few crashes.



What sort of crashes? Application or system? Client or server? Finding 
out  why it crashed would be valued IMHO.



Here is my problem and some troubleshooting suggestions.

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Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:13 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Krsnendu dasa
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] frequent crashes how to debug



We had a similar problem here and ended up being a bad motherboard (thank

goodness for warranty :o) ).



Anyway, a few things that might help if you are like us and do not have the

latest and greatest gadgets to test your system :o(:



First, you may want to check if the crashes happen everytime a "certain"

process (online backup?) or program runs/is started



Run the command dmesg, it will display a "sort of" summary of your log 
file,


after the system has restarted and check for things failing to load,

conflicts, etc.



Boot your system with a "live" CD (Knoppix, etc) right after the crash - 
some


systems are set to start a new log at every reboot -  and mount the /var

partition to look for kernel panic/memory error messages in the 
log/messages


file.



Boot the system with a system cd that has the memtest program (SuSe has it)

and test your RAM (long process). You can also download it here

http://www.memtest86.com/ .



For testing your processor and motherboard, you may want to put a heavy 
load


on it. For example: here we compile Gcc and Qt at the same time and 
watch for


swap usage, processor load, etc.







Good luck



Sergio



On Tue August 23 2005 03:13, Krsnendu dasa wrote:


 I have frequent crashes using K12LTSP 4.2







 When the server crashes two lights on the keyboard flash and the server



 does nothing else. I have to manually turn off the server (ie hold on of



 button for 5 secs) then turn it on again. Where can I look to try to find



 out what is going wrong? Is there a log file I can look at?















 I am using an AMD 2500XP cpu, 2 GB RAM @333, SATA 120 HD on Microstar



 MS-KT6 Delta motherboard with GLAN.






 I am running up to 11 LTSP clients and 3 windows machines that 

authenticate


 to K12ltsp and have home directories there.















 We use firefox, Gcompris, Tuxpaint, open office, cross over office and



 Scribus in roughly that order of use.






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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Cheapest and best way to expand LTSP network

2006-01-25 Thread Krsnendu Dasa

Benjamin Green wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:50:28 -, Krsnendu Dasa 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:


During a newspaper production project, when we had more than ten 
clients  running simultaneously using Scribus and OpenOffice or 
Firefox, things  slowed down a bit and we had a few crashes.



What sort of crashes? Application or system? Client or server? Finding 
out  why it crashed would be valued IMHO.


System freezes. Not problem at client. Thought it could be bad Ram but 
memtext 86 didn't show up anything. Where else could I look for clues.



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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Cheapest and best way to expand LTSP network

2006-01-25 Thread Krsnendu Dasa



Except Scribus and the other software you mention, I guess Gimp might 
also be used in the same context. I think more RAM wouldn't hurt if 
you'll have more simultaneous users.


BTW: how did you fare with Scribus? We happen to have similar plans 
here, but noone has gotten around to testing open source layout 
software (or making the scanner work via LTSP).


Scribus seems to be to a good powerful program. I didn't use it 
personally but comments I heard were

1. Iit didn't have templates and other goodies that you get in Publisher.
2. Also the text box editing works in a tricky way. You open up a window 
and when you close it the page gets updated. I haven't looked into it 
but it sounded like it wasn't reatime wysisyg.
3. The tutorial was inappropriate for primary school. The example 
graphics were photos of sexual stone carvings (like kama sutra)!

Otherwise didn't hear to many complaints.

I am thinking that I will have to upgrade the system somehow to 
accomodate the new clients, and generally to be able to deal with 
higher peak usage.


Below are some options I have thought of. Which would be the best 
option? Any other suggestions?
1.Upgrade from a "desktop" computer to a server specific 
motherboard/CPU including SCSI drives etc. This seems expensive, and 
I am not sure of the real benefit of a "server" over "desktop" at the 
same CPU speed etc.


If you get a dual (or more) CPU motherboard, at least that might bring 
benefits. They can often accomodate more RAM too.


Are servers with P4 chips worthwhile? Or is Zeon / Opteron the only what 
to go? I have seen an ad for a cheap P4 3.0 GHz Server that I might 
consider.


4. Enable local applications for firefox and openoffice. Could also 
be a solution for sound problems (Mplayer) too.

5.???


Step up the network and switching to 100 Mbit client <-> switch and 1 
Gbit switch <-> switch/switch <-> server(s), to get at least closer to 
100 Mbit simultaneous usage all the way from client to server(s)?


Currently we have 4-5 clients sharing one 100Mbit switch in each 
classroom. These switches feed into a 100/1000Mbit Switch that goes to 
the server at 1000Mbit.  Would the 5 clients sharing the 100Mbit switch 
be a bottleneck?



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[Ltsp-discuss] Cheapest and best way to expand LTSP network

2006-01-25 Thread Krsnendu Dasa
The number of client computers connected to our K12LTSP network keeps 
increasing. It is currently 14 clients soon to increase to 20 or more 
with the addition of a new classroom. Most clients are very similar 
Compaq  Deskpro DPENS P2 or Celeron 350 or 400MHz.
Our current server hardware is AMD 2500XP Desktop, 2GB RAM, 160GB SATA 
HD, GigaLAN
Each of the 3 (soon to be 4) classrooms has their own 10/100 switch that 
feeds into a 100/1000bit switch that connects to the server. All are 
unmanaged switches. There are also a few windows computers that connect 
to the system and authenticate against the K12LTSP server using SMBLDAP. 
The K12LTSP server also acts as a file server for the windows computers.


During a newspaper production project, when we had more than ten clients 
running simultaneously using Scribus and OpenOffice or Firefox, things 
slowed down a bit and we had a few crashes. Increasing RAM from 1 GB to 
2 GB seemed to help somewhat but not completely.
I am thinking that I will have to upgrade the system somehow to 
accomodate the new clients, and generally to be able to deal with higher 
peak usage.


Below are some options I have thought of. Which would be the best 
option? Any other suggestions?
1.Upgrade from a "desktop" computer to a server specific motherboard/CPU 
including SCSI drives etc. This seems expensive, and I am not sure of 
the real benefit of a "server" over "desktop" at the same CPU speed etc.
2.Add another similar desktop box and use load balancing as explained in 
WIKI.
3.Add another similar desktop box and use it as an application server 
for openoffice/ firefox etc.
4. Enable local applications for firefox and openoffice. Could also be a 
solution for sound problems (Mplayer) too.

5.???

What is your advice?

Thanks.
Krsnendu dasa



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[Ltsp-discuss] Re-sent: Upgrade from K12LTSP 4.2 to 4.4.1 how to transfer SMBLDAPinfo

2005-11-03 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I haven't received any reply to this yet. Please help me to transfer my
SMBLDAP info so I can use the upgraded server.

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To: 'Support list for opensource software in schools.'
Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrade from K12LTSP 4.2 to 4.4.1 how to transfer
SMBLDAPinfo

I currently have a K12LTSP 4.2 system running with SMBLDAP providing
authentication and homes users on LTSP client computers and windows
machines.
I decided I wanted to try out Crossover Office 5 (but not on the current
production server), so I have installed K12LTSP 4.4.1 on a new box and
installed Crossover Office 5. What do I have to do now to set up SMBLDAP and
transfer all the user authentication info to this new box so it can become
the official new server and I can use the other server for other purposes.
I have gigabit connection between the servers, so copying files is pretty
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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Audio usage on Thin Clients

2005-10-18 Thread Krsnendu dasa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McQuillan
Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2005 10:38 a.m.
To: John Nicholls
Cc: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Audio usage on Thin Clients

>Some times of users really need audio.  Take schools, especially the
>younger kids that want to play games or educational software.  having
>sound is pretty nice.

Yes. Sound is essential for primary schools. It would be great if it just
worked with LTSP.

At our school we have been running KLTSP for over a year and overall we are
very happy with it. But problems with sound have been a real drawback.
Gcompris is good but sometimes the sound works and sometimes it doesn't. In
some application and not in others. All the terminals are the same, but some
users have sound and some do not. We also have not got the sound working on
websites yet.

Sound is an area that would really make the system complete.
We have Sound-blaster compatible ISA sound cards (Compaq SFF EN-ESS sound
card). In addition to the K12LTSP applications (Gcompris, Openoffice,
Mozilla, TuxMaths etc) we also run Crossover Office (MS Powerpoint, Windows
media player). We are also considering Win4Lin to cover educational apps
that don't run with Crossover Office. Does sound work with Win4Lin?

We are currently using K12ltsp 4.2. Would upgrading to K12lstsp 4.4.1 help
us with sound?

What happened to Munas? It looked like they had a good product, but their
website hasn't been updated since May 2004. Are there any other developments
in network sound?

One alternative is to run programs locally, but that also seems tricky.

Any advice or updates would be very much appreciated.

Regards,
Krsnendu dasa



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[Ltsp-discuss] RE: client booting problems

2005-02-28 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Problem one:
I boot a client using a via etherboot disk
The machine gets IP address and starts downloading system.
Then it says.
Detected E100:Eth0:IntelEPro/100 network connection
Running DHCP on port 67

Then it freezes. Any clues how to proceed from here?

Problem 2:
Some clients boot okay but the display is all stuffed up. Lines all over the
place, graphics mangled.

On one PC if I Alt-ctrl-backspace from login window it looks different every
time, until it finally comes right.

I am guessing it could be a hardware problem, but I am not sure which
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[Ltsp-discuss] sound and Windows server 2004

2004-11-01 Thread Krsnendu dasa








If I access terminal server via rdesktop, is there a way to
get the sound working on the client?








RE: [Ltsp-discuss] SOUND config: Yamaha OPL3-SAx ISA card

2004-10-30 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Where is the documentation for the smodules? i.e. what are the choices and
how do you use them.
Opl3 is not listed in audiolist

There is a section in the example lts.conf :-
module_01 = agpgart.0 # This is for  i810 video
module_02 = uart401.0
module_03 = "sb.0 io-0x220 irq=5 dma=1"
module_04 = opl3.0

Can someone explain what this is for and how you use it?
It seems there is a relationship between these modules and the smodules
But the syntax is a bit different.

Eg.

module_03 = "sb.0 io-0x220 irq=5 dma=1"
smodule_03 = "sb io-0x220 irq=5 dma=1" the .0 is missing

I have clients with many different sound cards so I would like to understand
how this works. I have had a lot of trouble getting sound to work properly
and even after searching far and wide for info have only found bits and
pieces to help me.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Bailey
Sent: Monday, 25 October 2004 8:42 a.m.
To: Koursk
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] SOUND config: Yamaha OPL3-SAx ISA card

Koursk wrote:
> All,
> 
> Any idea about the SOUND config for Yamaha OPL3-SAx
> (ISA sound card).
> 
> I've tried, but didn't work, with the following
> config:
> 
> SOUND=Y
> SOUND_DAEMON= esound or nasd
> SMODULE_01=opl3.o
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Koursk 
MODULE_03 = "opl3sa2  io=0x370 mss_io=0x530 mpu_io=0x330 irq=5 
dma=0 dma2=1"

is what i use

bails


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[Ltsp-discuss] partitioning recommendations

2004-07-12 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I am installing K12LTSP at my school.
We will be running up 20 clients at first with up to 50 students logging
in.
They will mostly be using them for word processing, impress
presentations and some web browsing. 

It will also function as the file server for windows workstations
(office an teachers computers) on the network. About 5 machines
currently.

My server will run with 2 X 120 GB SATA RAID 1.
Any recommendations how to partition the hard drive?
e.g. separate partition for homes to aid data backup?

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[Ltsp-discuss] Does the speed of the network card make any difference?

2004-06-23 Thread Krsnendu dasa


 Does the speed of the network card make any difference in LTSP?
I will be using mostly open office.org and mozilla, but it would also be
cool to use multimedia educational CDROMs. Maybe even VCDs sometimes.

I just looked at the MuNAS website and they say that for multimedia you
need 100mbps. For web browsing and open office would 10mbps affect the
performance?




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[Ltsp-discuss] Fedora Core 2?

2004-06-23 Thread Krsnendu dasa


 
I am about to install K12LTSP on a new computer. It has VIA8237 Serial
ATA RAID. Will this work with Fedora core 1 or should I upgrade to
Fedora Core 2? So far on my test box, everything works practically
straight out of the box. If I upgrade to Fedora Core 2 with this cause
me problems? I was thinking that core 2 must be better because it is an
upgrade, and in particular I was thinking it would better support SATA
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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Connection to WTS

2004-06-23 Thread Krsnendu dasa


I am about to install a K12LTSP (Fedora core 1 with LTSP 4.0) server in
our school. At first we will be using 5-6 pentium Is. 
Is there anyway to use MS Windows software such as MS Encarta and other
educational software like Reader Rabbit etc?

I have heard of WINE and VMWARE. What are they? Would they help with my
request above?



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[Ltsp-discuss] firewall recommendations

2004-06-17 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Can you please clarify for this newbie. This means the files reside on
the logon server but to the users they seem to be mounted directly in
the LTSP server?

Can you please give me a bit more info about the firewall setup? I have
heard of a program called smoothwall. It is a firewall and a proxy
server. It runs on 486s and up. 

What are other alternatives? It must need a special lightweight
distribution to run effectively on a 486. I am interested in this
option. 486s and low spec Pentiums are cheap and easy to get. I am
interested to know how much benefit would be gained from a proxy server.
At present we have dialup but are likely to upgrade to dsl in a month or
so. Students would often be accessing the same websites.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 6:39 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Krsnendu dasa; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Server hardware recommendations

 I'd suggest going like this:

Have an LTSP server with two NICs that has all terminals on eth0 and
runs 
dhcp..., NFS for them. Have the second NIC connected to a separate
network, 
where another (hard drive + win logon) server and a 486 (firewalling)
live. 

In that setup, you'd mount the file server's "/home" to the LTSP box.





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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Server hardware recommendations

2004-06-17 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Can you please clarify for this newbie. This means the files reside on
the logon server but to the users they seem to be mounted directly in
the server?

Can you please give me a bit more info about the firewall setup? I have
heard of a program called smoothwall. It is a firewall and a proxy
server. It runs on 486s and up. 

What are other alternatives? It must need a special lightweight
distribution to run effectively on a 486. I am interested in this
option. 486s and low spec Pentiums are cheap and easy to get. I am
interested to know how much benefit would be gained from a proxy server.
At present we have dialup but are likely to upgrade to dsl in a month or
so. Students would often be accessing the same websites.


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Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 6:39 p.m.
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Cc: Krsnendu dasa; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Server hardware recommendations

 I'd suggest going like this:

Have an LTSP server with two NICs that has all terminals on eth0 and
runs 
dhcp..., NFS for them. Have the second NIC connected to a separate
network, 
where another (hard drive + win logon) server and a 486 (firewalling)
live. 

In that setup, you'd mount the file server's "/home" to the LTSP box.





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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Server hardware recommendations

2004-06-16 Thread Krsnendu dasa
No reply as yet. 
Another hardware related question I want to ask is it a good idea to use
the LTSP server as the allpurpose server (ie. Windows Domain logon
server, file server, internet gateway, etc..) or is it better to split
the services between computers.
The optimal memory requirements and hard drive usage of a file server
and a terminal server may be very different, and therefore both could be
optimized better with their own machines. E.g. The file server may have
bigger hard drives optimized for reliability and backup purposes,
whereas the terminal server might have more ram and smaller hard drive
set up of fast access.

On the other hand,  using one powerful machine may do both jobs quite
adequately but all the eggs would be in one basket and if anything went
wrong the whole system would go down.

Overall I am looking for the most cost effective solution, but I want
decent performance also. 
 
I have also heard that there are advantages to using a standalone
computer for the internet gateway/firewall. Any comments?


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I plan to network about 10-20 thin clients. 

What is the minimum reasonable hardware I should use for the server. Do
I need a "server" as such or can a powerful workstation do the trick,
e.g. Duron 1.6 80Gb 7200rpm IDE133 Drive256MB DDR266 ram?

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[Ltsp-discuss] Server hardware recommendations

2004-06-15 Thread Krsnendu dasa

I plan to network about 10-20 thin clients. 

What is the minimum reasonable hardware I should use for the server. Do
I need a "server" as such or can a powerful workstation do the trick,
e.g. Duron 1.6 80Gb 7200rpm IDE133 Drive256MB DDR266 ram?

I am using K12LTSP v4.0 Fedora core 1



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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Mouse problems

2004-06-10 Thread Krsnendu dasa

Thanks. I will look in the bios and see if I can increase the memory to
the display card. Is there any other way to do it apart from a new
display card?
I have set the LTS.conf file to Cirrus as I believe this is the card in
the box.
 
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 03:11, Krsnendu dasa wrote:
>  I have some old IBM P 133 clients connecting to the server. The 
> maximum resolution seems to be 640X480. Is there anyway to minimize 
> things of the screen to maximize usable space?
> On the desktop I can make the taskbar tiny.
> In Open office is there anyway I can maximize space for working?
If you can increase memory of the display card to 2mb or put in a new
display card then you should be able to boost resolution to 1024x768
with colour depth of 16. I have not worked with IBM machines but some
machines have settings in BIOS where you can allocate more memory to
display. This could also do the trick.
-- 
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[Ltsp-discuss] Mouse problems

2004-06-09 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have the server running fine and connecting thru a client. Victory!
The problem I have now is that the mouse connected directly to the
server has gone nuts. When I move the mouse it keeps jumping back to the
bottom left hand corner of the screen and it selects things seemingly
randomly. I have tried rebooting and using other mice but the problem
persists. 

I can log on as root thru the client and do things, but I would like to
know how to fix this problem with the server. I suspect a reistall would
fix the problem, but I was hoping there was another way.




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[Ltsp-discuss] VGA display

2004-06-09 Thread Krsnendu dasa


 I have some old IBM P 133 clients connecting to the server.
The maximum resolution seems to be 640X480.
Is there anyway to minimize things of the screen to maximize usable
space?
On the desktop I can make the taskbar tiny.
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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: Etherboot problem

2004-05-18 Thread Krsnendu dasa
Can someone advise me exactly how to configure 3Com 3c509 network cards
for etherboot. I have downloaded the floppy boot disk, but once the
kernel downloads it says that it can't find the isa card. I read on the
rom-o-matic website that there is some trick using a special config
file, but I couldn't find it at the 3Com website and I couldn't fully
understand what is supposed to be done or how to do it.

 




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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: Etherboot problem

2004-05-18 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have used etherboot disk for realtek 8029 card on the thin client
computer (P100 IBMs). It has got an IP address, downloaded the kernel
etc. When it goes to boot the xserver it fails. The message I can see on
the screen when this happens is:-

"
(++) using config file: "/tmp/XF86Config.1"
Skipping "/usr/x11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0"
Skipping "/usr/x11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.0"
Skipping "/usr/x11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.0"

(EE) No drivers available.
Fatal server error: no screen.

"

It mentions that the log file is found in "/var/long/XFree86.0.log"
But when I looked it up on the server it didn't have anything new in it.

Can someone guide me what to do next to get the client to boot the
Xserver?



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RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: Etherboot problem

2004-05-17 Thread Krsnendu dasa
I have done a fresh install the K12LTSP distribution.
This time I left all the default settings the etherboot is starting to
work now, but now I cannot access the internet thru the network gateway
as I could b4.
The school network is 192.168.0.1 gateway. As it is for standard Windows
internet connection sharing setup. (Our gateway is running vector Linux
with Samba 2.x connecting thru PP0.) I have put fixed IP addresses for
all the computers so I can keep track of them easier. (i.e. if I can't
see the computer name I can check if I can ping the IP address.)

LTSP defaults to 192.168.x also.

How should I change the network settings to allow both the LTSP network
and get internet access from those computers also.

It is easy enough for me to change the IP addresses for the school
network. I think this would be simpler than changing the LTSP settings.
We only have about 7 computers outside our LTSP group.

Although I managed to set up the Vector Linux computer as the gateway, I
very much a newbie and don't understand workgroups domains etc. I am
also not very good on Samba and shares etc.

Further assistance will be greatly appreciated.

I am also having difficulties when the kernel on the client tries to
boot and fails, but I will save that for another mail with more detail.

Krsnendu dasa

-Original Message-
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Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: Etherboot problem

It sounds like a routing problem to me. You shouldn't have eth0 and eth1
belonging to the same network segment, unless you bridge them.

What are the addresses of eth0 and eth1?
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