[LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns
Gevaert was born in Flanders and after his succes in Paris he became director of the Brussels Conservatory in 1871. I remember singing his lessons in the class of solfège in 7 mixed clefs, based on Ariaâs by J.S. Bach so I learned to know the Mattheus and Johannes Passions. He was indeed a fan of âearly musicâ and one of the pioneers like Emile Bosquet (Brussels and Antwerp) who also arranged lute works for piano. He wrote the book Emile Bosquet,... La Musique de clavier et par extension de luth, manuel encyclopédique historique et pratique Paperback â 1953 on Amazon for $21 Best wishes Greet Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: Rainer Verzonden: zondag 10 november 2019 18:32 Aan: Arthur Ness; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns Am 07.01.2019 um 22:25 schrieb Arthur Ness: > Heavens!!! > Now, who was the other guy (ca. 1900, French as I recall) who arranged > lute music for concert grand piano? It looked like Liszt on the open > page. Perhaps François-Auguste Gevaert (1828-1908), the Belgian composer and director of the Paris opera. In the preface to Morphy's famous book he wrote: Un des plus anciens conservateurs, M. Richard, grand amateur de chant et de théâtre, m'avait pris en armitié et me signalait les raretés musicales de ce riche dépôt. C'est ainsi que le Libro de Vihuela de Don Luis Milan m'était tombé sous la main, deux ou trois mois avant l'arrivée du comte Morphy à Paris. Séduit, dès le premier coup d'oeil, par les mélodies des romances viejos et des villancicos, notées sur la portée, je m'étaÃs mis patiemment à traduire aussi dans notre usuelle écriture musicale les accompagnements de luth, notés en tablature, de quelques-unes de ces cantilènes, ainsi qu'une couple de pavanes et de fantasias. Rainer PS Here is another early transcription of a piece by Milan by the Spanish composer and musicologist Manuel Manrique de Lara: https://www.europeana.eu/portal/sk/record/2022717/bnesearch_detalle_bdh159350.html?l[r]=5[t]=14 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Lully tablature
Ask François Pierre Goy who works there Best wishes Greet Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de Verzonden: dinsdag 24 september 2019 16:54 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Lully tablature Hello everybody, some weeks ago a friend sent me an article by Jean Duron, "L'orchestre de Marc-Antoine Charpentier", published in "Revue de musicologie" 72/1, Paris 1986. There the author writes on p. 40-41: "Le théorbe nâest jamais mentionné dans les sources chez Charpentier et très rarement chez ses contemporains. [..] La présence à lâOpéra est prouvée par quelques notes manuscrites ajoutées â tablature â sur la partie de basse-continue de Proserpine de Lully." The corresponding footnote says: 20. "Voir une partition Ballard conservée à Paris, Bibliothèque nationale : Vm251." I just today had a conversation via e-mail with a guy from the BNF, and he even sent me two pictures of the corresponding Proserpine-Edition (shelfmark Vm2 51), but the annotations in the Proserpine copy Duron mentions has only usual note annotations, nothing in tablature. I'm wondering if Duron made a mistake? Maybe somebody here knows more about the Lully-prints in the BNF and did see some theorbo intabulations in the works of Lully? Thank you very much - if these intabulations really exist it would be great news for us! Yuval To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns
--_F98017A4-917A-41F7-B1A7-65706732154F_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Got it electronically now in the Antwerp Conservatory library http://anet.ua.ac.be/brocade/brocade.phtml?UDses=86716993:296952=1=oneframe=W=_Entry:dgpsview=dg:apkc:3898~artkc~opacuantwerpen~c:lvd:6750838~1~c:lvd:6750838~N=W=digiview Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: Peter Martin Verzonden: zondag 13 januari 2019 13:28 Aan: Greet Schamp Onderwerp: Re: [LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 12:24, Peter Martin wrote: How interesting! Travis and Emery in London appears to have several copies, including one signed by the author's grandson for only £10, so I might just go there tomorrow lunchtime and buy it. https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30146290073=sortby%3D17%26an%3Demile%2Bbosquet_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title8 670 pages including 'some music examples' so it's unlikely to have any Saint-Saens style transcriptions, but might be interesting anyway. P On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 12:19, Greet Schamp wrote: So I found the book but I always get a paywall, now I discovered our library in Antwerp has the book, so I can always get it there When you think yhis is interesting enough to investigate.   Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10  Van: Peter Martin Verzonden: zondag 13 januari 2019 11:42 Aan: Greet Schamp Onderwerp: Re: [LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns  Hello Greet,  Interesting ideas. I can't immediately find anything lute-related on those websites or on a quick Google search, but I will look a little further. Let me kow if you have any other inspirations!  Peter  On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 15:26, Greet Schamp wrote: Could it be a Belgian pianist? Emile Bosquet  https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Bosquet He was the piano teacher of my great aunt and I have seen scores of renaissance music like Attaignant edited by him Or Emmanuel Durlet https://www.emmanuel-durlet.be/nl/leven.html More than 300 transcriptions of early music, mainly flemish harpsichord music meer dan 300 voor piano herschreven werken van 18e-eeuwse Vlaamse klavecinisten (het resultaat van lange opzoekingen in archieven van abdijen, kloosters, kerken en privé-bezit). Greet Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: Arthur Ness Verzonden: maandag 7 januari 2019 22:28 Aan: rads.bera_g...@t-online.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns   Heavens!!!   Now, who was the other guy (ca. 1900, French as I recall) who arranged   lute music for concert grand piano? It looked like Liszt on the open   page.   PruniÃÆères comes to mind, but I think it was someone else.   Saint-Saens looks more restrained in comparison.   Arthur   -Original Message-   From: Rainer   To: Lute net   Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2019 7:21 am   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-SaÃÆëns   For details see:   Camille Saint-SaÃÆëns, 1835-1921: A Thematic Catalogue of His Complete   Works, page 480   Available in Google Books.   Rainer   On 07.01.2019 10:38, David van Ooijen wrote:   >  Thanks, that's very interesting!   >  David   >  ***   >  David van Ooijen   >  [1][1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com   >  [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl   >  ***   >   >  On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 10:33, Rainer   <[3][2]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>   >  wrote:   >   >   2 fantaisies ÃÆÃâ ÃÆ Ã©crites pour le luth (viruela) / par D. Luis   Milan de   >   Valence, compositeur espagnol du XVIe siÃÆÃâ ÃÆ Ã¨cle ; transcrites   pour le   >   piano par C. Saint-SaÃÆÃâ ÃÆ Ã«ns   >   [4][3]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p   >   Rainer   >   To get on or off this list see list information at   >   [5][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html   >   >  --   >   > References   >   >  1. mailto:[5]davidvanooi...@gmail.com   >  2. [6]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/   >  3. mailto:[7]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de   >  4. [8]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p   >  5. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html   >   >   -- References   1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com   2. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de   3. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html   5. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com   6. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/   7. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de   8. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p   9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --  --
[LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns
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[LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns
Could it be a Belgian pianist? Emile Bosquet https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Bosquet He was the piano teacher of my great aunt and I have seen scores of renaissance music like Attaignant edited by him Or Emmanuel Durlet https://www.emmanuel-durlet.be/nl/leven.html More than 300 transcriptions of early music, mainly flemish harpsichord music meer dan 300 voor piano herschreven werken van 18e-eeuwse Vlaamse klavecinisten (het resultaat van lange opzoekingen in archieven van abdijen, kloosters, kerken en privé-bezit). Greet Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: Arthur Ness Verzonden: maandag 7 januari 2019 22:28 Aan: rads.bera_g...@t-online.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-Saëns Heavens!!! Now, who was the other guy (ca. 1900, French as I recall) who arranged lute music for concert grand piano? It looked like Liszt on the open page. PruniÃÆères comes to mind, but I think it was someone else. Saint-Saens looks more restrained in comparison. Arthur -Original Message- From: Rainer To: Lute net Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2019 7:21 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: Milan et Saint-SaÃÆëns For details see: Camille Saint-SaÃÆëns, 1835-1921: A Thematic Catalogue of His Complete Works, page 480 Available in Google Books. Rainer On 07.01.2019 10:38, David van Ooijen wrote: >Thanks, that's very interesting! >David >*** >David van Ooijen >[1][1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com >[2]www.davidvanooijen.nl >*** > >On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 10:33, Rainer <[3][2]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> >wrote: > > 2 fantaisies ÃÆÃâ ÃÆ Ã©crites pour le luth (viruela) / par D. Luis Milan de > Valence, compositeur espagnol du XVIe siÃÆÃâ ÃÆ Ã¨cle ; transcrites pour le > piano par C. Saint-SaÃÆÃâ ÃÆ Ã«ns > [4][3]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p > Rainer > To get on or off this list see list information at > [5][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >-- > > References > >1. mailto:[5]davidvanooi...@gmail.com >2. [6]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ >3. mailto:[7]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de >4. [8]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p >5. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de 3. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 6. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 7. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de 8. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1174900p 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: The awful German language
Dear all, Anyhow the book is quite interesting IMHO, especially for the links between the Wolfenbuttel court and the Netherlands as Sigrid Wirth explained it in English during her lecture at the Utrecht Lute Festival. Greet Op zo 9 sep. 2018 om 16:44 schreef David Van Edwards <[1]da...@vanedwards.co.uk>: Dear Rainer, Now all is revealed, I've long loved this reading of the Mark Twain essay of the same name and now I see that it is read by one Rainer! Could it be you? [2]https://librivox.org/the-awful-german-language-by-mark-twain/ Best wishes, David At 15:05 +0200 9/9/18, Rainer wrote: >From the description of a new book about lute music at the Wolfenbüttel court: > >Im Sinne des sog. spatial turn werden Bedeutungszumessungen an soziale, >physische und virtuelle Räume erschlossen und die mit der räumlichen >Differenzierung einhergehende ästhetische Schichtung der am Hof geschehenden >musikalischen Handlungen untersucht. Der Resonanzraum der Laute bezeichnet >hierbei den vom Hof ausgehenden und auf ihn zurückwirkenden lautenbezogenen >interaktiven Beziehungs-, Handlungs- und Bedeutungsraum. Erstmals werden hier >Vermittlung und Einsatz von Musik und Lauteninstrumenten in Schulen und der >Universität Helmstedt, innerhalb der herzoglichen Familie und im Spiegel der >literarischen Werke des Herzogs Heinrich Julius untersucht sowie John >Dowlands Besuch in Wolfenbüttel im regionalen Kontext dargestellt. Die Hof- >und Hofkapell-Lautenisten werden in ihrer Rolle als kulturell-musikalisch >Handelnde sowohl in der Hofkapelle als auch innerhalb des exklusiv durch sie >besetzten Raumes in unmittelbarer Herrschernähe betrachtet. Darüber hinaus >verdeutlicht die Analyse musikalischer Ausgestaltung bedeutender >Wolfenbütteler Hoffeste der betrachteten Zeitspanne die wirkungsvolle Nutzung >einer Fülle akustisch-musikalischer Elemente und trägt vielfältige neue >Erkenntnisse bei. > >Note: It really does not matter if you speak >German or not - you won't understand a single >word. >Almost as clear as Hegel... > >Rainer > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >[3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: [4]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk -- References 1. mailto:da...@vanedwards.co.uk 2. https://librivox.org/the-awful-german-language-by-mark-twain/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/
[LUTE] Re: Builder of Hard Cases
Renzo Salvador makes his own lutecases, golden ones, very nice, but I donât know if he makes cases for other lutes than those built by himself. He is based in Liege Luttich, not so far from the Eiffel https://www.renzosalvador.be/ Victor Vorko based in Paris makes aluminium cases for lutes https://www.victorvorko.com/ Greet Schamp Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: Dan Winheld Verzonden: vrijdag 7 september 2018 18:49 Aan: howard posner; lutelist Net Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Builder of Hard Cases Obviously we need good, protective hard cases for umlauts too. On 9/6/2018 11:39 PM, howard posner wrote: >> On Sep 6, 2018, at 11:21 PM, Stephan Olbertz wrote: >> >> Umlaut-trouble again... > "Holger Gotz" (with umlaut) actually came through perfectly on my my email, > without the digital garbage that you got on the copy sent back to you. > Donât ask me to explain why my email server in California handled the > umlaut better than yours in Germany. > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > --
[LUTE] Re: New book by Dr. G. Spiessens about the lute intheSouthernNetherlands
Hello Rainer, There is a possibility it would be translated if there is enough interest from the non Dutch speaking lute community. Anyway Flemish/Dutch is much like German, so for you it wouldnât be a big problem I guess. Greet Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: Rainer Verzonden: zondag 15 juli 2018 17:53 Aan: Lutelist Net Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: New book by Dr. G. Spiessens about the lute intheSouthernNetherlands On 15.07.2018 17:31, Greet Schamp wrote: > > De Zuidelijke Nederlanden en de Luit muziek > door Dr. Godelieve Spiessens > (the book is in Dutch) What a pity... Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] New book by Dr. G. Spiessens about the lute in theSouthernNetherlands
: 30 Euro plus frais dâenvoi pour la Belgique 5 Euro, pour lâEurope 14 Euro. Le livre sera aussi en vente pendant le prochain festival du luth à Utrecht le 1 & 2 Septembre 2018.  Plus dâinfos sur cont...@lute-academy.be  De Zuidelijke Nederlanden en de Luit muziek door Dr. Godelieve Spiessens Dit boek is volgens het eigen zeggen van de auteur haar laatste en misschien wel het belangrijkste als synthese van al de kennis die zij gedurende meer dan een halve eeuw heeft opgebouwd over dit onderwerp. Toen ze haar doctoraat schreef over de figuur van Emmanuel Adriaenssen, wat toen op slag als een heel belangrijke studie werd aanzien daar zij toen tal van nieuwe feiten aan het licht bracht, heeft de luit haar niet meer losgelaten. Daarnaast publiceerde zij nog talrijke werken in gespecialiseerde tijdschriften en muziekencyclopedieën, een monografie over de schilder Alexander Adriaenssen, een boek over de Antwerpse speellieden en in 2009 Geluit in Antwerpen. Het nieuwe boek is een must voor elke luitliefhebber die geïnteresseerd is in de geschiedenis van de luit in heel ons land. Na een uitgebreide inleiding behandelt het eerst de luitisten in hofdienst (13de-16de eeuw) per eeuw gerangschikt en dan de spelers in kerk- en stadsdienst (14de-17de eeuw) in volgende steden: Mechelen, Dendermonde, Geraardsbergen, Leuven, Antwerpen, Aalst, Kortrijk, Diksmuide, Tienen, Ieper, Luik, Brussel. Een derde hoofdstuk gaat over luitbouw (15de-18de eeuw) en een vierde over tabulatuurdruk van 1529 tot in de18de eeuw. Dan komt een uitvoerig chronologisch overzicht van al de muziek voor luit, cister en gitaar die in de Zuidelijke Nederlanden geschreven of gedrukt werd. Over het hele boek verspreid zijn er meer dan dertig afbeeldingen, meestal in kleuren.  Bijna 260 eindnoten vervolledigen dit wetenschappelijke werk, dat tegelijkertijd toch heel toegankelijk is voor de modale lezer en luitspeler. Uitgave in eigen beheer, juni 2018. De prijs van het boek bedraagt slechts 30 Euro, plus 5 Euro verzendkosten in België, 14 Euro in Europa. Dr. G. Spiessens, Italiëlei 217/6, B-2000 Antwerpen. IBAN BE63 8659 2708 Meer info via cont...@lute-academy.be Recensie: Laat mij toch eerst vertellen dat ik dit werkstuk een zeer goede synthese vind van de huidige kennis over luitmuziek, gebruik en bouw in de Zuidelijke Nederlanden. Chapeau voor Godelieve! Mia Awouters, voormalig conservator Europese snaarinstrumenten in het MIM (Brussel),  Greetings from Greet Schamp Belgische Luitacademie Academie belge du luth www.lute-academy.be  Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10  -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] POD in Antwerp, Belgium
Dear lute friends, For those who would be in the neighbourhood of Belgium on August 20th: Paul O'Dette will play a late evening concert in Antwerp. https://www.amuz.be/en/concert/paul-odette-2/ Paul OâDette The Secrets of the Muses When Paul OâDette plays the sparkling repertoire of 16th and 17th century lute virtuosos Giovanni Girolamo Kapsberger, Nicolas Vallet, Jacques Gaultier and Alessandro Piccinini, the music genuinely speaks to us and seduces us. Only one book of lute music by the German-Italian Kapsberger has stood the test of time, but what a book it is. The most passionate and expressive music from the transition from the Renaissance to the Baroque made Kapsberger one of the most successful composers of his time. Rightfully rediscovered, Giovanni Girolamo Kapsberger also symbolises the revolution in the arts and sciences during the Roman Baroque, along with Caravaggio and Galileo. Performers Paul ODette, ten courses Renaissance lute Besides this recital the Laus Polyphoniae Festival also announces a concert by Marc Lewon & Paul Kiefer the same day at 1 PM, https://www.amuz.be/en/concert/marc-lewon-paul-kieffer-2/ and August 16 you can hear Scherzi Musicali perform La Pellegrina https://www.amuz.be/en/concert/scherzi-musicali-2/ Best wishes, Greet Schamp Belgian Lute Academy www.lute-academy.be -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Concert Tomorrow in London
Hello Benjamin, It's a pity I cannot come, even being in London, because tomorrow I'm giving a lecture fort he English Lute Society at 12:30 in the Dutch Church, Austin Friars about the Ghent lute manuscripts with a small recital at 1:30 of works from this Mss with a Ballet de l'archeduq by B.Richard also for a 12 c lute but in an unusual accord nouveau. good luck with your concert! Greet Schamp -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens BENJAMIN NARVEY Verzonden: vrijdag 18 november 2016 11:49 Aan: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Onderwerp: [LUTE] Concert Tomorrow in London Dear Lutenists, A note to say that I will be playing a 12-COURSE LUTE RECITAL IN LONDON: SATURDAY 19 NOVEMBER AT NOON "Dedicatory Lute Music from Louis le Grand to Frederick the Great: Musical Extrapolations on Blancrocher and the Tombeau Tradition" Music by Gallot, Mouton, Visée, various Gautiers and (the "French") Weiss. 12-course "French Lute" Lars Jönsson (Dalarö, Sweden: 2015) Pitch: a' = 404 (ton de la chambre) A British Clavichord Society Event Art Workers Guild, 6 Queen Square, London, WC1N 3AT Johann Jacob Froberger (1616-1667): a celebration. Booking is now open. Tickets are £40 (full price) and £35 (concessions and members of the British Clavichord Society). See: [1]http://www.clavichord.org.uk/diary.html I hope to see some of you there. Best wishes Benjamin -- References 1. http://www.clavichord.org.uk/diary.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Can you tell something about this instrument?
To me it looks even inspired by aboriginal art Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Alexander Batov Verzonden: maandag 2 februari 2015 1:01 Aan: wayne cripps; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Can you tell something about this instrument? This looks like a rather typical 'master piece' by Leopoldo Franciolini (late-19th - early-20th century dealer and forger). Although there is a view that he occasionally used some genuine parts from old instruments (personally, I very much doubt he did), there is nothing original on this one, so both dates are irrelevant. If I remember correctly, there is a very similar sort of 'oddity' in the Museu de la Musica, Barcelona; also with inlaid body and early date. Alexander On 01/02/2015 21:29, wayne cripps wrote: Hi Lute people - I was contacted by Bill E who owns this theorbo like instrument, and he is wondering if any of you folk have any idea what its story is. I have his story and pictures of it at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/bill-e/index.html The pictures are quite big. You can reply to eichbaumwill...@hotmail.com Wayne you can reply to eichbaumwill...@hotmail.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Crochet hooks.
Use teflon tape (c) an idea by Jean Cordaro See page 18-19 with pictures and French and Dutch explanations how to do this: http://www.lute-academy.be/CMSimple/en/?Publications:Newsletter:2007 newsletter of September 2007, Geluit Luthinerie # 39 from the Belgian Lute Academy all the best Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Sean Smith Verzonden: zaterdag 29 november 2014 17:26 Aan: lute Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Crochet hooks. I found a little hook tool for electronics at Harbor Freight Tools. A couple of bucks and it, too, is very helpful. How did your experiments go at getting the string to slide easily over the nut? Sean On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: The last time I changed strings, I had a crochet hook. I found it useful in manipulating the strings in the tight confines of the pegbox. If you would like to try it, I would suggest size 1.8 mm. And I would suggest avoiding the cheaper hooks, as the working end is sometimes ill-formed due to sloppy machining or casting. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Telemann Partie Polonoise a Deux Luths + Reusner
Dear all, The rhythm 'oberek' of the gigue reminds me of the mazurka by Chopin, op. 7 n°3 for piano. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Anna Wiktoria Swoboda Verzonden: maandag 17 november 2014 23:25 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Telemann Partie Polonoise a Deux Luths + Reusner Dear friends, continuing the thread about Parties for 2 lutes from The GrA 1/4ssau (KrzeszA^3w) manuscript collection, I would like to show you our recording of one of them. While working on it I've been thinking about the enigmatic names of some of the movements: Hanaque - here very characteristic, explicit folk inspired dance - means Moravian; Sarrois (coming attaca after) must be, I guess, a dance popular in Sorau (AAary) - the residence of prince Erdmann von Promnitz, whom G. Ph. Telemann served for 4 years; Le Ris, as Julian Bream explains during his concert with John Williams at Wardour Chapel (shared on Youtube) means a laugh - I hope you will like our interpretation :). [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f_bCBVodA I would also like to share with you the recording of a Suite consisting of Denis Gaultier (ca. 1602-1672) and Esaias Reusner (1636-1679) pieces. This idea came to my mind while working on Reusner's works and life - we know that he had a french lute teacher, but we didn't discover who that was (might be Dufault, as Crawford states). The resemblance of Gaultier's Sarabande in D to the chord progression of the famous Reusner's Passagalia in D, prompted me to set a suite like this. (Plus a small variation on Girl With the Pearl Erring by Vermeer, who was active exactly at the same time as our both composers :). [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NiUuGp7DAgfeature=youtu.be Best greetings from Poland! [cleardot.gif] Anna Wiktoria Swoboda -- Anna Wiktoria Swoboda, theorbo, baroque guitar baroque renaissance lute +48 607 666 627 [3]wiktoriaswoboda.jimdo.com -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f_bCBVodA 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NiUuGp7DAgfeature=youtu.be 3. http://wiktoriaswoboda.jimdo.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lukas on Youtube!
Lukas was a pupil of Thomas Boysen when I first met him in Trondheim at the Ringve summercourse in Norway. He also played at the German lute day a couple of years ago in Burg Sternberg. I'm very happy to see he's doing so well, he's a rzal talnet Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Franz Mechsner Verzonden: zaterdag 24 mei 2014 4:40 Aan: Martin Shepherd CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Lukas on Youtube! O, how could I forget to search on Youtube ... just enjoyed one of Lukas Henning's pieces ... Franz That was a lovely concert indeed. I enjoyed it while tidying up my desk a little (which took much longer than the recital...). But Martin, you announced the concert as if Lukas was kind of our Lukas, no need to introduce him, sounds as if he is a kind of family member or widely admired golden boy - is that the case? All I could find in the net was three small pieces written by him - downloaded the ms but did not go through it so war. Best Franz --- Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne franz.mechs...@gmx.de +49(0)33841-441362 Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Mai 2014 um 15:16 Uhr Von: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Lukas on Youtube! Hi All, Nice to see Lukas Henning's finals recital is on Youtube: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsD2hr-IvBklist=UU71a3UGsyXvnELDfrm eeEFg I like the way he connects the lute music to the vocal music. Also good to hear him playing my lute! M --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. [2]http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsD2hr-IvBklist=UU71a3UGsyXvnELDfrmeeEFg 2. http://www.avast.com/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lukas on Youtube!
I meant a 'real talent' -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Greet Schamp Verzonden: zaterdag 24 mei 2014 8:54 Aan: 'Franz Mechsner'; 'Martin Shepherd' CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Lukas on Youtube! Lukas was a pupil of Thomas Boysen when I first met him in Trondheim at the Ringve summercourse in Norway. He also played at the German lute day a couple of years ago in Burg Sternberg. I'm very happy to see he's doing so well, he's a rzal talnet Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Franz Mechsner Verzonden: zaterdag 24 mei 2014 4:40 Aan: Martin Shepherd CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Lukas on Youtube! O, how could I forget to search on Youtube ... just enjoyed one of Lukas Henning's pieces ... Franz That was a lovely concert indeed. I enjoyed it while tidying up my desk a little (which took much longer than the recital...). But Martin, you announced the concert as if Lukas was kind of our Lukas, no need to introduce him, sounds as if he is a kind of family member or widely admired golden boy - is that the case? All I could find in the net was three small pieces written by him - downloaded the ms but did not go through it so war. Best Franz --- Dr. Franz Mechsner Zum Kirschberg 40 D-14806 Belzig OT Borne franz.mechs...@gmx.de +49(0)33841-441362 Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Mai 2014 um 15:16 Uhr Von: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Lukas on Youtube! Hi All, Nice to see Lukas Henning's finals recital is on Youtube: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsD2hr-IvBklist=UU71a3UGsyXvnELDfrm eeEFg I like the way he connects the lute music to the vocal music. Also good to hear him playing my lute! M --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. [2]http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsD2hr-IvBklist=UU71a3UGsyXvnELDfrmeeEFg 2. http://www.avast.com/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette Jakob Lindberg to play italian lute duets in Antwerp in August
But I'm afraid it's almost sold out already, I oredered already more than a month ago and got a very bad place at the side of the churchwith pillars in between, not very nice. So I hope some of the VIP's don't come, so we can take those places. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Matteo Turri Verzonden: zondag 11 mei 2014 15:22 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Paul O'Dette Jakob Lindberg to play italian lute duets in Antwerp in August The programme features compositions by Giovanni Antonio Terzi, who arranged madrigals and chansons by Palestrina, Striggio, Ingegneri, Lassus and Willaert as duets for two lutes. [1]http://amuz.be/en/concerts/paul-odette-jakob-lindberg Matteo -- References 1. http://amuz.be/en/concerts/paul-odette-jakob-lindberg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: : book release
Important to know: * shipping costs: België-Belgique € 6,50Bpack secur € 7,70 Europa USA € 13,05 Track trace € 32,80 World € 21,75 Track trace € 65,60 All other costs like bank or transaction costs at charge of the buyer. For more information mail greet.sch...@gmail.com As Dr. Spiessens has no e-mail -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Bernd Haegemann Verzonden: zondag 6 april 2014 17:28 CC: Gilbert Isbin; LS LUTELIST Onderwerp: [LUTE] SPAM warning: book release De Antwerpse stadsspeellieden (ca. 1411-1794) by dr. Godelieve Spiessens In 2 Parts: Part I (text): 245 pp., with French and English summaries and 20 reproductions (5 in colour); Part II (archival documents): 234 pp. enclosed on CD-Rom. Edited by the author and Universitas Digital Printing (Antwerp). Salesprice: 20 EUR (shipping and bank costs excluded*) to pay on IBAN BE63 8659 2708 de G. Spiessens, Italielei 217, BE2000 Antwerpen. The Antwerp city pipers appeared about 1411, but it wasn't until 1530 that they were mentioned in the city archives on a regular base. The following topics are treated: appointments, salary, livery, extra services, instruments and repertoire, benefits (exemptions, wine, pecuniary gifts). The extra services, in and outside the church, reflect the political, social and religious life of the era, such as a Joyful Entrance, victory, peace, a new bishop, happy and mournful royal events such as birth, marriage, coronation, death and masses against war and the plague, a bad harvest. The city pipers were employed to glorify the power and dignity of the city council and to entertain both citizens and visitors. In 1794, the French occupying forces abolished the secular institution of city music. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute publications
And also J. J. Burger's magnificent Joachim Van den Hove edition: 390 pieces including all works composed or anonymus works intabulated by him ISBN 978 90 6375 224 8 But alas too heavy for my music stand, so i need to make copies Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens G. Crona Verzonden: woensdag 19 maart 2014 14:13 Aan: Lute List Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Lute publications I believe the consensus today to be separate publications. One could take Jan W. J. Burgers' Tree edition of Cutting as an example. G. - Original Message - From: Anthony Hart anthony.hart1...@gmail.com To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM Subject: [LUTE] Lute publications Following my previous posts I am in the final stages of preparing the lute sonatas of Antonino Reggio. The delema is should I include the tablature in the samr volume as the staff edition of would it be better to publish two separate volumes. I intend to publish 4 volumes of 6 sonatas each. Anty suggestions? Many thanks Anthony To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: De Visee
Dear all, I wonder if his name has something to do with the city of Visé, north east of Liège in Belgium? The dutch name is WEZET but in the Walloon language it is called Vizé. According to wikipedia in french, it has a long history It would add another lute/baroque guitar composer to our country ;)) All the best Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Monica Hall Verzonden: zaterdag 1 maart 2014 12:39 Aan: Martyn Hodgson CC: Lutelist Onderwerp: [LUTE] De Visee Thank you very much for that Martyn. I don't know how many people have actually read these liner notes. Three whole pages are taken up with this biography - it is not until you turn to p.4 that you discover - Oh by the way - none of this is true. Some of the information is factually accurate. Some of it is not - which I think is inexcusable - Satoh is apparently unaware that Louis XIV died in 1715 and that when De Visee was appointed guitar teacher to the King it was to the 9 year old Louis XV. Some of it is obviously bollocks. When I first read these I queried on this list whether there was any evidence that De Visee was born in Portugal - not after all impossible - but did not get a satisfactory answer. I did my best to trace the source of this information - which had found its way into Wikipedia - perhaps that is where Satoh got the idea from. It seems that somebody some time ago suggested that De Visee's name implied that his family (rather than he himself) was Portuguese in origin. And so it goes. Endless pointless speculation masquerading as musicology, I can understand why David and and others who know Satoh personally and admire his playing might want to try and defend him. But I think that it needs to be said that people in his position - after all he taught at one of the most prestigious music colleges in the world until recently - shouldn't indulge in idle fantasy which may mislead the unwary. At the end of the day he has said nothing about the music or the manuscript from which it is taken which would have been much more interesting. As ever Monica - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 8:24 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise Perhaps you missed what Monica Hall wrote after quoting Satoh: “This is all my imagination and conjecture? She added Satoh's more misleading comment based on the few documents concerning De Visee's life In short, Satoh misleads by suggesting that his spurious conjectures, especially on birth place, are somehow based on historical sources. MH From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014, 23:32 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I think you are being disingenious. What Satoh actually says is This is all my imagination and conjecture, based on the few documents concerning De Visee's life. How is the reader supposed to know what is based on these few documents and what is idle fantasy? I think “This is all my imagination and conjecture” pretty much gives it away. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Daniel Norcombe
Dear collective wisdom, Does anybody know of any existing lute works by Daniel Norcombe, enlish lyra viol player who was at the Brussels court at the beginning of the 17th century? All the best, Greet Schamp -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Susanne un jour
There is a book by Dr. Christine Ballman, Le luth et Lassus, edited by Académie Royale de Belgique, classe des arts, Bruxelles, 2011, 288 p. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Ed Durbrow Verzonden: maandag 26 augustus 2013 17:10 Aan: lute list Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Susanne un jour D'oh, I should have looked at Sarge Gerbode's site before posting. What was I thinking?!!! I wonder if this is a modern intabulation of the Musica Transapina. I haven't played through it yet. I'm still curious if there are other versions. On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:04 AM, Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp wrote: Does anyone know of any settings for soprano/melody + lute intabulation for Susanne un jour bassed on the Lassos setting? TIA Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Interesting web page: www.lute.cz
Thanks Ralf and Markus for drawing attention tot his nice website. What a terrible life story of Emil Vogl, a very brave man! I learnt to know him by his editions in the late '70ies, he provided me some easy baroque lute pieces which I welcomed very much at that time, as I just starting to play this instrument. Greetings from Flanders Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Markus Lutz Verzonden: dinsdag 21 mei 2013 19:41 Aan: Ralf Bachmann CC: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Interesting web page: www.lute.cz Dear Ralf, the site www.lute.cz I already knew, but it was a good thing to mention Emil Vogl today. As I read now was born on 21st May in 1901, so we have reason to think of him today on his 112th birthday. I didn't know before, that he was a Jew. Luckily he wasn't murdered during Nazi time! Best regards Markus Am 21.05.2013 16:32, schrieb Ralf Bachmann: www.lute.cz Nice web page with an overview of tablature books which are currently held in the Czech Republic + an extended personal view on Dr. Emil Vogl. I remember back in 1987 having bought Vogl's tablature book From the lute tablatures of Bohemian baroque Edition Supraphon, and enjoyed playing from it! After all those years still easy to spot in my collection: very pink cover + black letters ;-) Actually someone made a quite convincing CD of that material ... shame on me, have to look at home who he was ;-) Best wishes, Ralf -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Markus Lutz Schulstraße 11 88422 Bad Buchau Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89 Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90 Mail mar...@gmlutz.de
[LUTE] Re: Other inventories of mandores guiternes - was 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto
Dear all, In the Antwerp archives Godelieve Spiessens found a lot of mandore: (for those who can understand a bit of Dutch) Source is the book: Geluit in Antwerpen By Dr. Godelieve Spiessens, Edition vzw Cantiga Belgische luitacademie 2009 P 23: Sommige speellieden-bouwers hielden zelfs een winkel van muziekinstrumenten. In het sterfhuis met winkel van speelman-bouwer Gillis van Gewelde alias vander Locht (+1648) waren er o.a. drie luiten in voorraad, waaronder één met lange hals -vermoedelijk een theorbe- en verder 88 pakken luitsnaren, drie gitaren (guiterne/kitteren), één mandora (mandoir) en ook cistersnaren (1) . In het sterfhuis met winkel van speelman-vioolbouwer Peeter Borlon jr. (+1669) bevonden zich o.a. 23 luiten en 31 pakken luitsnaren, zeven cisters, waaronder drie platte, drie luitcisters, zes theorben, drie mandora's en zeventien gitaren (2). (1) G. SPIESSENS, 'Gillis van Gewelde alias vander Locht: een Antwerps stadsspeelman en instrumentenbouwer (°vóór 1602-+na 9 mei 1648)', in: Celesta, 8 (1994), p. 124-126. (2) G. SPIESSENS, 'De Antwerpse vioolbouwer Peeter Borlon (ca. 1599-1669)', in: Antwerpen in de XVIIde eeuw, Antwerpen, 1989, pp. 437-449. p. 36 Enkele vreemde luitslagers die blijkbaar nooit in Antwerpen geweest zijn, maar wel in de archieven vernoemd worden, vermelden we hier terloops, omdat ze van nut kunnen zijn voor de algemene geschiedschrijving van de Europese luitmuziek: mr. Peeter luijtenist van Coelen (Keulen) en luitspeler Jan Schoneck van Nuijssen (Neuss?), die in 1553 allebei geld schuldig waren aan mr. Joos Kareest, klavicordmaker, voor aangekochte luiten. De Leuvense luitmaker Jan vanden Broecke kreeg toen volmacht om die schulden te ontvangen. Jehan Cola citarello uit Napels was vermoedellijk een harpslager. Er moet uiteraard ook rekening gehouden worden met de bespelers van een aantal andere met de luit aanverwante instrumenten, zoals getheorbeerde luit, theorbe, chitarrone, gitaar, mandora, angélique, orpharion, enz. In de 17de eeuw troffen we in de Antwerpse stadsarchieven al eens een zeldzame theorbist aan, zoals Gillebert (III) Verbraecken .. P 38: Ook mandora's (mandoir/mandoriken) worden vermeld in inventarissen van sterfhuizen, nl. in die van de reeds herhaaldelijk genoemde muzikanten-winkeliers Vander Locht (1648) en Borlon (1669), en dus waren er in elk geval kopers voor. Very interesting topic, keep on posting please! Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Martyn Hodgson Verzonden: woensdag 23 januari 2013 10:49 Aan: pie...@vantichelen.name CC: Lutelist Onderwerp: [LUTE] Other inventories of mandores guiternes - was 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto Dear Pieter, I agree that inventories and similar sources have much to tell us about instruments: in particular, and relevant to the principal discussion, are also the following (if somewhat later than the period under discussion) 16th century inventories: 1587 M. Lemaire: lists 3 guiternes; 8 mandores 1587 Claude Denis: 31 guiternes; 250(!) mandores 1589 Robert Denis 'le jeune': 37 guiternes; 156 mandores. Were these guiternes the figure-8 shaped instruments such as depicted by Morlaye? Martyn --- On Tue, 22/1/13, Pieter Van Tichelen pie...@vantichelen.name wrote: From: Pieter Van Tichelen pie...@vantichelen.name Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 22 January, 2013, 19:24 Hi Martyn, All right, point made. I'm new to this list and might not be alerted enough to everyone's background yet. ;-) Sorry if I've written something obvious and well-known. About gittern/guitar sources: as always, nothing is ever easy when concerning early plucked instruments, and especially their nomenclature. I've tried to condense some thoughts about identifying 16th century guitar/gittern sources (written, name only) - as I might type too much of an epistle if I let myself really go. First of all, prior to the 16th century, as pointed out by others already, there is no issue as there was only the lute-like gittern. If someone can ever point me to a source that has the guitar (figure-8 shaped) outside of Spain prior to the 16th century... that would be quite stunning as I've been researching the gittern for some time now and never found a trace pointing to that direction so far. Much depends on the time and place of the source. Starting at the 1530s and 1540s the confusion begins, mainly in France - where some publications do point out the term guiterne with the figure-8 shaped instrument (such as the title page of Morlaye). However, other contempary French sources use the same name
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Zingy strings
Yes that's what Mimmo Peruffo told us during his conference about strings at the Cordefactum festival last weekend here in Belgium. He also confirmed he'll start again to produce gut strings probably in June. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Arto Wikla Verzonden: woensdag 23 mei 2012 22:22 Aan: William Samson CC: baroque-lute mailing-list Onderwerp: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Zingy strings Dear Bill and the List, I recommend Mimmo's Aquila's D's to the basses, for which there still are no NNG's/NGE's. Wound on NNG, I guess. But much, very much better than the old Pyramid type wound strings. And if I have understood it right, Mimmo is developing a better solution: loaded NNG's/NGE's! Best, Arto On 23/05/12 17:31, William Samson wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anybody had found a good way to take the worst of the boom and everlasting sustain out of overwound basses? Loaded gut is 'way beyond my budget, so anything that would make, say, Kuerschner or Pyramid basses a bit tamer would be helpful. I have heard about people who put a blob of Blu-tack on each string where it emerges from the bridge, but that sounds messy and unsightly. Hopefully there's a less cringe-making solution. Thanks! Bill -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: European lute collections
Nürenberg Germanisches Museum -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens theoj89...@aol.com Verzonden: dinsdag 29 maart 2011 15:46 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] European lute collections If one were planning a trip to europe this summer (with a rail pass), and wanted to see up to four of the best museum collections of lutes, which museums should be on the list? thanks -trj -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Fist steps on the b-lute
And also our old friend Giesbert, still available at Schott edition -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens David van Ooijen Verzonden: dinsdag 23 november 2010 8:56 Aan: BAROQUE-LUTE Onderwerp: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Fist steps on the b-lute On 23 November 2010 07:57, Hilbert Jörg hilbert.jo...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list, a friend of mine is about to learn b-lute. I told him to order Sedura-Yisraels method, but it hasnt arrived yet, so I am now looking for some other basic studies or easy pieces for the very first steps. Does anybody happen to have some copyright-free stuff as PDF or JPEG for me? Not for free, but not expensive either, is 'The Baroque Lute Companion' by Stefan Lundgren. Chapters on technique with exercises as well as translations of historical sources on technical and musical matters. And some 300 pages with graded pieces. Highly recommended. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] lute desk
Lutenist looking for an original desk should take a look at [1]http://www.sophiekirkpatrick.co.uk/www.sophiekirkpatrick.co.uk/Curre nt_work.html Greet -- References 1. http://www.sophiekirkpatrick.co.uk/www.sophiekirkpatrick.co.uk/Current_work.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: the link for the Corrente
Hello Anton, Thanks a lot for sharing all your tablatures and mp3's. Do you have any lute duets ad secundam from Phalesius (Luculentum or Theatrum Musicum 1571) I'm trying to sort out the mistakes in Canti de voi Ladi and Amo(u)r e grazioso Canti de voi le ladi is composed by a certain Naich according to the RISM B/I 1543 (17) Hubert Naich (Huberti, Huberto) (c. 1513 c. 1546) was a composer of the Renaissance, probably of Flemish origin, principally active in Rome. His entire surviving output has been published in volume 94 of Corpus mensurabilis musicae. Unfortunately I don't have acces to this. I just wonder if someone on this list has a score of this madrigal Canti de voi le ladi. All the best Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Anton Höger Verzonden: vrijdag 30 april 2010 15:49 Aan: Lute List Onderwerp: [LUTE] the link for the Corrente Sorry, I forgot the link It is on mediafire 2 lutes new Unisono La Corrente Balletto Francese.pdf the direct link: http://www.mediafire.com/?zoznlmnykgg and for controlling an mp3 file (only computer generated!) La Corrente Balletto Francese (Lucca).mp3 the direct link: http://www.mediafire.com/?jvbmzygtnrz -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
eric bellocq: See his website: It was while finishing his study of guitar in 1983 with Alexandre Lagoya at the Paris Conservatory (where he now teaches) that Eric Bellocq received his first initiation to basso continuo and started to work in William Christie's baroque group, Les Arts Florissants, which he subsequently left in 1990. From 1991, he has been playing mainly renaissance lute with the ensemble Clément Janequin, directed by Dominique Visse. Since 2000, with the show Le Chant des Balles, a duo with a juggler Vincent de Lavenère, he has been able to resume production of his own musical works, while remaining faithful to the early music styles. Apart from participating in a large number of discs with various orchestras and groups, a few duet and solo recordings have been released by Naxos, Kings Records (Japan) and Frame (Italy). In 2009, his research on J. S. Bach's works for lute took a concrete form by virtue of an innovative new tuning for the instrument. Important European festivals such as AMUZ (Antwerp) or Festival de Saintes gave audience an opportunity to listen to the suites BWV 996, 997 and 998, which were rarely performed in live concert. I must tell that his old programme Chant des balles with the juggler is really very good, I saw it twice. The Bach en Balles last February at the Lute Festival in Antwerp was the first performance of their new programme, but not quite ready IMHO (playing by heart, in a total new tuning, while juggling and sitting on a moving low chair: it was a too big challenge, all these things combined) I always found it a bit suspicious that the director of Amuz, our partner in the organisation of this festival, really believed his statement that the the so called lute suites were rarely performed in live concert and that he just discovered the Liuto Forte and this new tuning. But as they payed him for this première...(First performance) we couldn't really object,and luckily we also had our own programmes. Looking forward to the next European (or World) Lute Festival now in Füssen, Germany next May 21-24 in 2010 Greet Belgian Lute Society -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens lute Verzonden: maandag 21 december 2009 22:06 Aan: 'Franz Mechsner'; 'Sauvage Valéry'; 'lute' Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte The text was used for a performance at a lute festival in Belgium. As you admit it does sound silly, there is no evidence that Bach wrote 6 suites for the lute, even that he was so very interested in the lute. I am sure a lot of lutenists would love to think he was, but it does not seem to have interested him a great deal. But maybe he could see into the future and wanted to write for an instrument that was invented a few hundred years lateror maybe the liuto forte is not a new instrument, but an idea stolen from the 18th century. There are also a number of modern performances on dminor baroque lute so they do not seem to be unplayable. All the best Mark p.S. Here is EB's programme presenting the reconstructed 6 suites Johann Sebastian BACH: suite BWV 995 prélude, allemande, courante, sarabande, gavottes 1 et 2, gigue. Joaquin RODRIGO: Sarabande lointaine. Johann Sebastian BACH: suite BWV 999 (reconstitution É. Bellocq) prélude, fugue, sarabande, menuets 1, 2 et 3. Yuquijiro YOCOH: Sakura, thème et variations sur la chanson traditionnelle japonaise. Johann Sebastian BACH: suite BWV 998 prélude, fugue et allegro. Johann Sebastian BACH: suite BWV 996 prélude, allemande, courante, sarabande, bourrée, gigue. Wolfgang Amadeus MOZART: larghetto du Divertimento KV 439b nº2. Johann Sebastian BACH: suite BWV 997 prélude, fugue, sarabande, gigue et double. DEBUSSY: La fille aux cheveux de lin. Johann Sebastian BACH: suite BWV 1006a prélude, loure, gavotte en rondeau, menuets 1 et 2, bourrée, gigue. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Franz Mechsner Gesendet: Montag, 21. Dezember 2009 17:09 An: Mark Wheeler; Sauvage Valéry; lute Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte Dear Mark, where did you get Eric Bellocq's promotion text from? It sounds indeed a little silly - but given how much work he semed to have invested in research on Bach suites, and finally playing them in ABs (?) tuning, one should do him justice before ridiculing him and make sure what's the matter with this text... not everything is what it seems to be... F __ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von Mark Wheeler Gesendet: So 20.12.2009 16:27 An: 'Sauvage Valery'; lute Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte Well if you find playing a guitar in form of a lute saying it is a lute strange then have a look at this promotion text from the same lutenist.. It is assumed that Bach, just as for the violin and the cello, composed
[LUTE] Re: New ways
Bonjour, Isn't that the tierce tuning proposed by Eric Bellocq and André Burguete at our last lutefestival in Antwerp? The lute stand seems a derivation of the guitar, but I don't think it's very comfortable, I rather prefer a strap and feel the instrument closer to my body. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Valery Sauvage Verzonden: vrijdag 20 november 2009 8:40 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] New ways New way to tune, to hold, and Mozart played on renaissance lute by a Japanese player... [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RgP9MtM8c Interesting isn't it V. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RgP9MtM8c To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute-Ensemle Music
You should add that it's a commercial advertisement ;)) Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Anton Höger Verzonden: donderdag 19 november 2009 11:54 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Lute-Ensemle Music Hi, If you are interested in Renaissance - Lute-Ensemle Music (2, 3 or 4 Lutes in Unsisono, ad Secundam and ad Quartam tuning) Have a look at [1]http://antonslutetabs.npage.de/ There you can find a lot of very interesting, never heard Renaissance -Music. Best and warm regards Anton -- References 1. http://antonslutetabs.npage.de/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Amarillis in your car
We also have an add on Belgian Flemish television for the Radio KLARA programme ESPRESSO featuring Floris de Rycker, lute playing sitting in the back of a car. Each week they give away such a private concert for a listener who is in the traffic jam each morning. http://radio.klara.be/radio/espresso.php for those who understand Dutch/ Flemish scroll to ELKE WERKDAG VAN 6 TOT 9 WIN EEN OCHTENDSPITSCONCERT! De zomer is nu definitief voorbij en u moet weer elke dag op weg. De baan op, de file in, de werkdag tegemoet. En soms is dat balen. Maar Espresso kan u misschien helpen door wat meer poëzie in uw ochtend te brengen. Met een beetje geluk en inspiratie wint u een wagenrecital om het woon-werk-leed te verzachten. Wat moet u doen? Luister elke woensdag naar het gesprek met de muzikant-in-aanbieding en laat ons telefoongewijs weten waarom u aanspraak maakt op een onderonsje met deze muzikant.. Is het traject dat u moet afleggen dan zó troosteloos? Moet u dagelijks drie files trotseren? Hebt u dringend nood aan kalmeringsmuziek voor uw roerige kinderen op de achterbank ? Hoe kan muziek soelaas bieden bij het woon-werkverkeer? De musicus laat zich vermurwen door al deze telefoonberichten, kiest er het grootste slachtoffer uit en zal deze dan s morgens vroeg met livemuziek, koffie en koeken vergezellen. Bel 00 32 (0)70/344033 het ensemble Encantar geeft het eerste van vier de Ochtendspitsconcerten. A good idea perhaps to get lutenists employed in other countries? Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Oskar De Mari Verzonden: vrijdag 11 september 2009 10:02 Aan: lute list Onderwerp: Hi all just for a laugh: there is an ad on Australian Telivision featuring a lute! the lutenist is singing a wooing song of love to an intercom at the front door to some flats. The add says something like 'do things the 21st century way - join our internet dating service'. I believe this is the lute's first appearence on an ad in Australia. lovely o __ Check out The Great Australian Pay Check [1]Take a peek at other people's pay and perks -- References 1. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Milan's tablature?
Tree edition has the Easy Duets by Anne Bailes-Van Royen which has a separate score for a melody instrument like recorder, violin... Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Christopher Stetson Verzonden: vrijdag 8 mei 2009 2:40 Aan: lutelist Net Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Milan's tablature? Hi, all. I have (somewhere in a pile of music) a publication from about 1900 outlining newly invented character notation for guitar which was essentially modern guitar tab: fret numbers on 6-line staves with (redundantly) parallel staff notation and without (annoyingly) rhythmic notation on the tab. Didn't catch on, though, so had to be reinvented mid-century. Tablature may be the most frequently invented musical notation. Best, and keep playing. Chris. dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us 5/7/2009 4:52 PM On Thu, May 7, 2009, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com said: On a side note: when did modern guitar TAB (equals Milan's) arise? I have heard talk of Mel Bay editions. before 1960, which is when I took up guitar. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
Philippe Malfeyt (B) is lute teacher at the conservatoria of Brussel/Bruxelles, Gent/Gand and Leuven/Louvain Unfortunately there is only one lute pupil this year. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Sauvage Valéry [mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr] Verzonden: zondag 12 april 2009 7:58 Aan: LuteNet list Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Luthomania Hello Ed, I just made regular search with keyword lute (also liuto, laute, luth etc...) on YT, asking for more recent posts... Val ;-) - Original Message - From: [1]Ed Durbrow To: [2]Sauvage Valery ; [3]LuteNet list Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Luthomania Very much enjoyed that. Where are you finding all these people Valery? On Apr 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Sauvage Valery wrote: To see... [1][4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [5]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [6]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU 5. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 6. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luthomania
They made a cd a couple of years ago http://lute-academy.be/CMSimple/downloads/Geluit16.pdf p 15 their cd See also http://lute-academy.be/CMSimple/downloads/Geluit05.pdf page 4 for a review of a concert http://lute-academy.be/CMSimple/downloads/Geluit06.pdf p 3 for pictures of Philippe -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: chriswi...@yahoo.com [mailto:chriswi...@yahoo.com] Verzonden: zondag 12 april 2009 15:47 Aan: Lute List; Sauvage Valéry Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Luthomania This is great. Wonderful mix of sounds and influences. The actual piece they're playing is OK, but it would be great if a group of great players like this could do some more interesting music. I suppose its just for fun, though. Chris --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr wrote: From: Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr Subject: [LUTE] Luthomania To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 12:41 AM To see... [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU V. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8sbyY-kvU To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Telemann
publicat...@nederlandseluitvereniging.nl. Georg Philip Teleman(?) Vijf Suites voor Twee Elfkorige Luiten uit: Warszawa, Biblioteka Uniwersytecka, RM 4135 Formaat: A4 geniet Franse tabulatuur Uitgegeven door Gusta Goldschmidt Members/Leden: €8,- Non-members/Niet-leden: €11,- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Lex van Sante [mailto:lvansa...@wanadoo.nl] Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 12:50 Aan: lute mailing list list Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Telemann Hi Luca, The adres has changed. You will find the dutch lute suciety here. http://www.nederlandseluitvereniging.nl/ Cheers Lex van Sante Op 6 apr 2009, om 12:44 heeft Luca Manassero het volgende geschreven: Dear Collective Wisdom, from an enquiry on the Baroque Lute list I started yet another search on the net and could not find an easy way to order this Telemann edition: Five suites for two 11-course baroque lutes Transcription of suites in the university library of Warsaw, RM 4135 [1-2] by Gusta Goldschmidt. The edition used to be available from the Netherland Lute Society, but the web site (http://www.luitvereniging.nl/en) is down since years. Does anybody on this list know where I could find (and buy) it? Thank you in advance, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Advice needed about LUTE TUTOR for children
Yes, the Easy Duets by TREE edition are very recommendable, but also Les Petites Muses by the French lute society with nursery songs and early Music like Romanesca, Bergamasca I use this with my youngest pupil (8) Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Roman Turovsky [mailto:lu...@polyhymnion.org] Verzonden: zondag 22 maart 2009 13:47 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Anton Birula Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Advice needed about LUTE TUTOR for children I recall that Anne van Royen (Tony Bailes' wife) was working on something of the sort 20 years ago. RT - Original Message - From: Anton Birula image...@yahoo.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: [LUTE] Advice needed about LUTE TUTOR for children Dear List, My wife Anna and me are starting to encounter our little daughter Alisa with the lute. We got a great 7 course treble lute by Martin de Witte and it would be good to have some kind of book meant for children. Does anybody maybe know anything like this? Of course we can teach her somehow, but this kind of method is always very helpful. We will be thankful for any information. Sincerely , Anton Anna To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Giesbert Schule fur die Barocklaute
Yes and a good exercise in reading gothic letters Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: theoj89...@aol.com [mailto:theoj89...@aol.com] Verzonden: woensdag 18 maart 2009 22:52 Aan: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Giesbert Schule fur die Barocklaute Does anyone have an opinion of the book Schule fur die Barocklaute by Giesbert (date?) - apparently a tutorial ? For a beginner, would it be worth borrowing through inter-library loan as a source of graded easy-intermediate tunes. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Jean-Baptiste Besard
We did some of his songs in a concert last november, you can watch it on Youtube La voila la nacelle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycOZ3BpU0vE Beaux yeux http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu-0LRd6HCo Quelle divinite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtlZaK37Hzw Si c'est pour mon pucellage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQxfg7IH14U Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: E. Agulló [mailto:eagu...@wanadoo.es] Verzonden: zaterdag 31 januari 2009 22:59 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Jean-Baptiste Besard Hello, I've read a bit from Oeuvres pour luth seul de J.-B. Besard Edition CNRS ). I find this music interesting and I think that I will continue with my reading. A fast search on the web, gave almost no CDs with Besard's lute pieces. Only a few dances in collective programmes, but it seems that nobody has made a whole Besard recording. Is anybody from this list familiar with this composer ? In the preface of the book there is a study Sur la musique de Besard written by André Souris ): he explains with examples that the writing of Besard is sometimes very anarchic, with strange jumps of octave ( and this happens on the upper voice, the superius ), chords offbeat, parallel fifths, dissonances without resolution, etc. What do you think of all this ? I see in the ( complex, virtuoso ) tablature that he was a great professional of the lute. This is not a bad work made by a beginner or an amateur. Then, can we think of errata in the printing of the tablatures ? Or perhaps he played several pieces with a secret scordatura ? I find everything intriguing. If anybody has read carefully this music, and has worked on it ( for recital, or studio recording, etc ), I would like to know his/her point of view. A last question: It seems that Besard was an appreciated composer in his time ( his pieces were copied in manuscripts preserved nowadays in several libraries )...how is possible that nobody programmes his music today ? Thanks for your attention, Eduard V. Agulló To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Pioneers of the lute revival
Dear lute friends, Now online: text about the lute revival,translated by the author Jo Van Herck http://www.lute-academy.be/CMSimple/en/ first published in our Quarterly Geluit Luthinerie back in september 2001 http://www.lute-academy.be/CMSimple/?Publicaties:Tijdschrift_Geluit_%2F_Luth inerie:2001 there as pdf downloadable in Dutch and French Happy reading, Greet To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Consort
Liebe Mandolinensuse, There is also lutemusic by E. Adriaenssen for quartet and trio + voices: In Pratum Musicum 1584, the edition 1977 by Frits Knuf is out of print, but probably available in libraries. Io vo gridando, Donna crudel, Madonna mia Pieta fol 47-48-49 (trio's) O vilanella, Als ick u vinde,fol 50-51 (quartet) His Novum Pratum Musicum, edited in facsimile by Minkoff also in 1977 contains no pieces for more than one lute If you want some of the pieces, tell me and I can scan them. All the best, Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Bernd Haegemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: zondag 16 november 2008 10:45 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Daniel F Heiman CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Lute Consort Goedemorgen! Het tvvede Boeck Van de Luyt-Tablatuer ... door Nicolaes Vallet Amsterdam, 1616 Facsimile: Secretum Musarum II by STIMU (Dutch Lute Society) 1986 (I think this is currently out of print.) I am not so sure. I thougt only the first vol. was out of print. Just write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] good luck! B. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: E. M. Dombois Biography
Dear all, The Belgian lute academy published a series of articles back in 2001 by our member Jo Van Herck. You can read these as pdf on our website http://www.lute-academy.be/CMSimple/fr/?Publications:Revue_Geluit%2FLuthinerie:2001 under Publications - september 2001 part 1 december part 2 and march 2002 part 3 In Dutch and french # Over de pioniers van de luitrevival # Les pionniers de la renaissance du luth AndDombois and Gerwig are there! I noticed some pictures of lutenists are missing, but I can send them when you ask. May be we have to put this on Wikipedia as well. Happy reading, Greet http://www.lute-academy.be -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 15:28 Aan: lute Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: E. M. Dombois Biography Quite correct, Juan. Same problem with Walter Gerwig, another pioneer who would largely deserve a decent page on the web, like Eugen Müller Dombois... Even Diana Poulton remains absent from the web ! Time to do something, maybe. I devoted a page to some lute pioneers on one of my sites, but only photos, when I had some, and Eugen Müller Dombois is alas nowhere to be found on the net. Have a look there, if you like : http://le.luth.free.fr/precurseurs/renouveau.htm Best, Jean-Marie === 07-10-2008 14:53:39 === I can only concur. Indeed! On Oct 7, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Juan Fco. Prieto wrote: Dear group: I'm astonished by the lack of biographical notes on Internet about the live of the great lutenist Eugen Mueller-Dombois. Not even Wikipedia. Only references to their pupils, but no one word about himself -or maybe I didn't found-. A bit strange, it isn't? Do you know the reason? I believe that I'm playing baroque lute now thanks to his Weiss Infidele, from the 70's. Hearing in those days at this beautiful music went me to the lute, and now I'd like to know a little more about this awesome musician. Thanks. Greetings, Juan Fco. Prieto -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://poirierjm.free.fr 07-10-2008 Nˆ ¶‰è®‡ß¶¬–+-±ç¥ŠËbú+™«b¢v†Ûiÿü0ÁË j»f¢ëayÛ¿Á·?–ë^iÙ¢Ÿø§uìa
[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes
Hello Manuel, This I found in an old file with some tablatures. So Eric Crouch made these transcriptions for guitar Eric Crouch: http://homepage.mac.com/pogmoor/GuitarLoot/pages/32.html Best wishes Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Gmail Manuel Minguillon Nieto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:41 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] John Wilson Preludes Dear Lute wisdom, Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John Wilson Preludes from manuscript of the Bodleian Library, Mus. B. 1? Thanks a lot in advance. Manuel Minguillon -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] No ay en la tierra
Dear collective lute wisdom, Can any of you give me a lute version of the song No (h)ay en la tierra by Tessier, I have the score but cannot find the source where to find the tablature. Thanks! Greet -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Eustache de Caurroy
Hello Ray, Is it this? Greet (who's also supposed to play this too with a vocal ensemble next november and has a Adriaenssen setting in G (Pratum Musicum 1984 f.88) with diminutions and also Valerius in F) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: William Brohinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: zaterdag 27 september 2008 2:10 Aan: Lute List Onderwerp: [LUTE] Eustache de Caurroy Collected lute wisdom, The collegium is playing a pair of fantasies on Une Jeune Fillette by Eustache de Caurroy this semester, and I'm supposed to figure out what to pluck with them. They are number 31 and 32 (trenteuniesme and trentedeuxiesme). Has anyone seen these? What is the song they are based on (it's not obvious from the florid tenors.) Has anyone worked out some kind of continuo/lute-ish thing to do along side them? Are they available as intabulations? Ray To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: was gut now nut
Jean Coradaro, aoe of the members of our Belgian Lute academy recently published an article about putting Teflon (c) under the string to make it go smoothly over the nut. I can send this document how to do to lutenists who want to try this. It's in Flemish or French but the pictures explain everything. Greet Schamp -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 25 oktober 2007 8:43 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] was gut now nut It's true. My bad. Has anyone recently tried a material other than bone that is better at minimizing string fraying over the nut? dt -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: The capo in period
the cister certainly used capo, see the holes in the fingerboard in many historical instruments like the Tribschen museum in Luzerne (CH). Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 10 oktober 2007 22:17 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] The capo in period I don't recall if this has been discussed here before, but is there any evidence that the capo was ever used on lutes in period. I was discussing differently tuned instruments with someone and mentioned how easy it is with a guitar to play different keys with an easier fingering by using the capo and then wondered if the capo existed in period for lutes or other stringed instruments. Just curious. Regards, Craig _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] RE Re: Vlachs or no Vlachs olim Re: Amps or no Amps
To add: also Waals, Waalsch, Wallon in Belgium means the french speaking part of our country, while we flemish people call our language Diets, Dietsch, (Dutch, Deutsch) which is a Germanic language Greet (from the now almost split Belgium) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Tony Chalkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 8 oktober 2007 17:14 Aan: Roman Turovsky; 'Net' Onderwerp: [SPAM] [LUTE] Re: Vlachs or no Vlachs olim Re: Amps or no Amps I was looking at this bit - Wikipedia isn't terribly well structured sometimes: The Slavic term in turn derives from Germanic: it originates with *Walha by which the early Germanic tribes called their Celtic neighbours, possibly derived from the name of the tribe which was known to the Romans as Volcae One way or another, Mathias is right to bring Newsidler back into the question - I don't think we know much about the dances of the Volcae... - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tony Chalkley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Net' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Vlachs or no Vlachs olim Re: Amps or no Amps I see no contradiction: ...Vlach is a Slavic-derived term from the Germanic word Valah/Valach used to designate the Romance speaking peoples of South-Eastern Europe: Romanians, Aromanians, Megleno-Romanians and Istro-Romanians. While historically, it was used to refer to all Latin people of the Balkans, nowadays etc... RT - Original Message - From: Tony Chalkley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Net' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:30 AM Subject: Vlachs or no Vlachs olim Re: Amps or no Amps Roman, Wiki a bit further, and it looks like it was the other way round - try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_term_Vlach after, the Welsh don't really speak a Latin-derived language... Tony - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mathias R=F6sel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Narada [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Net' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Amps or no Amps No, Walachia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walachia) was bordering on Transylvania, a largely German speaking region, and IMHO that's where the apellation Welscher was acquired by German for all Latin derived foreigners. RT - Original Message - From: Andrew Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mathias R=F6sel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Narada [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Net' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Amps or no Amps Is Wallachia where the Romani people originate from? So Welscher Tantz could mean something like Gypsy Dance? It's more romantic than washerwomen anyway... On 8 Oct 2007, at 12:23, Roman Turovsky wrote: Andrew Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: ..going off on a tangent as usual: I've been told that Dance of the Washer Women is a popular mistranslation - Welscher Tantz Wascha mesa translates as something like Dance of women from other lands or Dance of foreign women. Not a very good German speaker myself - does anyone know a more accurate translation? Welscher Tantz means Italian Dance. My suspicion it also meant Walachian. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] lute for sale
Hello lutenists, Floris, one of our members, is selling his 7 courses lute by Stephen Murphy 1997, 11 ribs, mensure 60 cm, nylgut strung, Kingham case included 2750 Euro please contact him directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antwerpen Belgium best wishes, Greet Schamp Belgian Lute Academy http://www.lute-academy.be/ 7 korige renaissance luit van Stephen Murphy, Mollans sur Ouv=C3=A8ze 1997 (270/4). 11 ribben, diapason 60 cm. Momenteel met nylgut besnaard. Goede projectie, warme sound en makkelijk te bespelen. 2.750 a,=AC met Kingham koffer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Antwerpen, Belgi=C3) _ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Easy stuff for beginners
Also The Easy duets by Anne Bailes by TREE edition are really recommendable for beginners, there is even a cd you can order with the second voice (chords) played by Margriet Verzijl, you can contact her by the Dutch lute society NLV. The French SFL has also a series Les Petites Muses, intended for children, with French folksongs, also very enjoyable! good luck! Greet Belgium -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Narada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 6 juni 2007 12:04 Aan: 'Stewart McCoy'; 'Lute Net' Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Easy stuff for beginners Could I also recommend the English Translation of Andrea Damiani's book 'Method for Renaissance Lute ' published by Ut Orpheus Edizioni of Bologna, Italy. It landed in my Post Box this morning and I am stunned by it's content. Regards Neil -Original Message- From: Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2007 17:06 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Easy stuff for beginners Dear Anthony, Thank you very much for this very imteresting site. I can access things like the Galilei galliards, but not the beginner's pieces. I don't understand why. I already have copies of the publications you mention, and they provide excellent material for beginners. All the best, Stewart. http://luth.chez-alice.fr/site_de_pascal_Gallon/partitions.htm - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Easy stuff for beginners Dear Stewart There are some good things on Pascal Gallon's web site both for lute and renaissance guitar, at http://luth.chez-alice.fr/ site_de_pascal_Gallon/partitions.htm but I dare say you know them. Obviously (off the web), there are the texts published by the Lute society, 58 Easy Pieces for Renaissance Lute, corresponding to the recording Blame not my Lute, by Jacob Heringman, http://magnatune.com/ artists/albums/heringman-blamenot/ And also those published by Pascale Bocquet, here in France, http:// sf-luth.org/en/?%26nbsp%3BMusical_Publications/Le_Secret_des_Muses However, I am sure you do know all these. Best regards Anthony To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tablature search
Tree Edition has a nice edition out right now, transcription made by Gian Luca Lastraioli into french tablature! 38 solo's and 3 duets only 25 Euro + sending Greet Schamp Belgium -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: zondag 6 mei 2007 17:32 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Tablature search Hi, I'm trying to find the music for a couple of pieces, and would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction. Obviously a free internet download (as at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi ) would be very nice! But I'm also perfectly willing to buy the music if need be. The pieces are: Calata ala spagnola detto terzetti (Joan Ambrosio Dalza), and Pavana muy llana para taner (Diego Pisador) This list continues to be a great source of both inspiration and instruction - Many thanks to you all! John Scott To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] USA dates
A very promising Portuguese lute player, Miguel Serdoura, now living in Paris, is coming to the United States for a concert tour: Here are the dates ; * Recital : Rochester - Thursday October 5 2006, 7:30 pm. Third Presbyterian Church, 4 Meigs Street, Rochester, New York 14607, USA Site : www.thirdpresbyterian.org * Recital : Princeton - Sunday, October 8th - 7pm Christ Congregational Church, 50 Walnut Ln. (Across from Princeton High School) Princeton, NJ, 08540 USA Reservations : 609-921-6253 Site : www.mateus-lutes.com * Recital : Los Angeles - Saturday October 14 2006, 8:00 pm. Trilogy Guitars. 143 Culver Blvd, Playa del Rey, CA 90293, USA Site : www.trilogyguitars.com Reservations : here * Recital : San Diego - Sunday October 15 2006, 4:00 pm USA The concert will be held in Rancho Santa Fe. Seating is limited and should be reserved in advance. There will be a reception following the performance. For reservations and directions contact Kemer Thomson E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel : 619 840 3416 Site : www.harpsichord-sd.com * Recital : Berkeley - Saturday october 21 2006, 3 p.m. MusicSources, 1000 The Alameda (at Marin) Berkeley, California 94707, USA www.miguelserdoura.com Enjoy it! Greet Schamp To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Belgian Lute Day 15 October06
Dear lutefriends, May I invite you to the 10th Belgian Lute Day 15 October 06 Acad=C3=A9mie de Woluwe-St-Lambert Avenue des 2 Tilleuls 2a, 1200 Brussels Programme : 9-9.30 Welcome with coffee and tea 9.30 Workshop: music from the Middle Ages (Landini and Grossin) arranged for G lutes and other early instruments (A = 440=E2=80') by Dr. Christine Ballman 9.30 Open lessons: baroque lute, theorbo and basso continuo by Philippe Malfeyt (B) 11.00 Concert: =E2=80=9CItalian Lute Music between 1500-1530=E2=80=9D solo and duets by Spinacino, Dalza, Capirola, Borrono, Da Milano played by Pascale Boquet and C=C3=A9line Ferru (France) 12.00 Aperitif offered by the Lute Academy Lunch (BYO) 13.00 General Meeting of the Belgian Lute Academy and talk about the teaching the Lute to youngsters: Pascale Boquet, Lieven Misschaert, Philippe Malfeyt and C=C3=A9line Ferru (she has real reputation teaching young children) 13.30 Workshop ensemble:Ambrosio Dalza for lutes in D en G en Giulio Tiburtino for lutes in G (A=440=E2=80') by Dirk De Hertogh 13.30 Workshop ensemble: Trio=E2=80's by Pacoloni (G-A-d or F-G-c) by Lieven Misschaert 15.30: Concert: =E2=80=9CEliza is the fairest Queen=E2=80=9D: Elisabethan music by the group Pantagruel (Germany): Hannah Morrison, voice, Dominik Schneider,flutes, gittern and voice, Mark Wheeler, lute, gittern and cittern. 17.00: Free Podium and performances of the music from the different workshops. 18;00 The end Price: free for our members and their family others 10=E2=82=AC (-18 or +65 only 5=E2=82=AC) We require your subscription before September 30th 06 How to get there: The way to get there is quite easy: from Brussels Central Station it=E2=80's only 10 minutes: When you=E2=80're coming by public transport: Upon arrival at Central Station take metro 1B direction Stokkel until stop Montgomery Go to Tervurenlaan/ Avenue de Tervueren walk direction north east, (Porte de Tervueren), second street at the right is Trevierenstraat/Rue des Tr=C3=A9vires, the prolonging road is Tweelindenstraat/Avenue des 2 tilleuils. When you=E2=80're coming by car: Ring road around Brussels: East at the E40 Highway (from Li=C3=A8ge/Luik) take direction Centre Follow Montgomery, stay on the lateral road (don=E2=80't enter the tunnel under this Montgomery roundabout). You=E2=80're on the R. Whitlocklaan, take the first at the right at the roundabout which is the H. Dietrichlaan Then the first at the right is already the Tweelindenstraat 2a/Avenue des Deux Tilleuils2a. (we can also send you a map when necessary) One of our members, who lives next door, offers lodging for two persons, so first comes, first served Hoping to meet you there, Greet Schamp Belgium -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: thunky frets
Yes but it is very difficult to tie them on, they don't bend so Well and especially when you want to cut the end with an open flame, it could be very dangerous for your lute!( you better use other devices like a soldering iron). At the other hand it's very logical to use the same material as that of your strings, as you say it doesn't wear out like gut frets. Greet -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: bill kilpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 25 mei 2006 9:34 Aan: Sean Smith; Lutelist Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: thunky frets . much better than funky threats! though i've never tried it myself, i suspect that nylgut might be excellent material for frets - more dense, more durable and more likely to retain their roundness. - bill early music charango ... http://groups.google.com/group/charango ___ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: beginners tablature
Of course there is Pascale Boquet's recommendable method too, consult the SFL webpage www.sf-luth.org (I cannot get in at the moment, but keep trying) Les Editions S.F.L. La SFL vous propose : L'association édite et vend une collection de musique de luth et instruments associés intitulée Le Secret des Muses qui propose actuellement vingt-neuf titres. Le premier prix est celui tout public, le second est le tarif réservé aux adhérents et le troisième concerne les frais denvoi. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute straps
Hello Michal, This is a very nice painting! Where did you get it? Do you know the name of the painter, the title or the museum where it's kept? As many of us, I'm collecting all images of lutes and lute players. Thanks Greet Schamp Belgium -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: marigold castle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 1 mei 2006 6:27 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] lute straps Here's a bit of evidence for the historic accuracy of straps: http://www.mit.edu/~thrasher/images/dc/funky_lute.jpg Looks like an orangeish strap to me. Granted most re-enactors are re-enacting from earlier periods so they might not consider that painting evidence of earlier strap use. I'm sure I've seen an earlier, Renaissance if I recall, black and white illustration (woodcut?) that shows a strolling player with a lute that appears to have a shoulder strap. I couldn't find a link for that one unfortunately. So now I'm going to have to worry that my mind is playing tricks. ;) Michal bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- guy_and_liz Smith wrote: Hardly. Come to an LSA seminar some time. You'll see quite a few folks playing with a strap, myself among them. The person who convinced me to try one was Pat O'Brian, who has more than a little credibility as a pedagogue as well as a performer. excellent news - glad to hear it. please note i said prior correspondence suggested it's a no-no to those who re-enact early music - not to those who play it. well hung - bill - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: HBO Movie Elizabeth I, P.S.
Dear luters, IMHO the music from this BBC production was not all historic, especially the main theme, a sort of girls choir, of course the costumes and acting were splendid but I missed the lute, which I think must have been a more prominent instrument at that time. Greet Schamp Belgium -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: bill kilpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2006 1:23 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu CC: Caroline Usher Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: HBO Movie Elizabeth I, P.S. there was the most amazing interview with shekhar kapur - director of elizabeth I - on bbc world service the other day in which he says - amongst many highly astute and very interesting observations of a more modern nature - that elizabeth was a spin doctor supreme - founded the british empire as a consequence. so ... leicester, dudley, walsingham et al. whispering to her behind the curtains - so to speak - is probably not too far removed from the realms of possibility. haven't seen the helen mirren series yet (my 80 year-old mother just wrote to say how much she loved it) but i'll be very disappointed if they don't have her leaping about in part II with some grandee or other doing her galliard to the lute accompaniment of dowland-by-actor. - bill early music charango ... http://groups.google.com/group/charango ___ NEW - Yahoo! 360 - Your one place to blog, create, publish and share! http://uk.360.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Almande Prince
Hello Walter, I know this piece very well, play it often in concert especially when Dutch people are in the audience, because it's their national hymn Wilhelmus van Nassouwe (Nassau). When they like to sing along, I add some bars so they can breath or prolong the notes to full measures. I'll ask Ms. Dr. Godelieve Spiessens, who is a great specialist on Adriaenssen, what she thinks is the reason of this strange assymetry. The same occurs in Als ick u vinde also by Adriaenssen. Also season greetings to all lutenists on this list, Greet Schamp (from Antwerp, native town of Adriaensen) Walter Durka wrote: Dear Lutenists, In playing through Adriaensens Almande Prince (Pratum Musicum 1584 f84v) this piece seems to be quite unusual, because the melodic phrases do not add up to full measures: the length of the phrases is: 6 - 7 - 8 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 8 - 8 - 8. Although there is clear symetry (and thus this is hardly an error of the type setter) the piece is strange because of the uneven length of phrases, which at least to me seems unusual for an Allmande. At the end of the 6- and 7-beat phrases I am always inclined to rest instead of going on a tempo. Are there similar cases? Other comments on this piece? regards - merry christmass to all Walter To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tutors
Hello Stewart, The same with Lundgren's Lute Calendar: it's also a pity he doesn't mention the folio nrs when he uses pieces from Board and Sampson, it would be easier to look it up and so you can add the original embellishments.Also where he changed some notes or fingerings I would like to know what was the original. For example the Branle Gay of 22 December, to my ear and feeling the open string a on 3rd course has to be d on 4th and the Cutting Toy of february 28th, the B part has an open 6th string so letter a and my version has e which sounds much better, it could be a misprint in the original ( I wrote this already to Stephan, may be he can change this in a second edition.) When someone would undertake the giant task of putting the Pascale Boquet tutor into computer, this could even give the additional benefit that you can hear the music as well. Or the pupil can exercise at home with the teacher's part played by the computer. I used this system with midi files, to teach my blind student. All the best, Greet Schamp Antwerpen Stewart McCoy wrote: Dear Stephan, The advantage of Boquet's tutor is having lots of useful material. The disadvantage is that it is not entirely accurate. There are mistakes and/or deliberate alterations. Newsidler's Wascha Mesa and Dowland's John Smith spring to mind. My belief is that editors shouldn't just change things willy-nilly without saying what they have done. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: [LUTE] RE : Tutors Dear Lino and Manolo, thanks for your interesting answers, I will definitely order two copies of the Boquet tutor. I'm going to teach an 18-year old who has never touched any instruments before, so this seems to be the one to go for... Regards, Stephan Am 8 Dec 2005 um 11:10 hat Lino Messina geschrieben: Hi Stephan, I used both Damiani and Boquet tutors, I find Damiani very useful for the technical explanations and arguments (see the as example the chapter about scales) but a little poor in the quantity of the music presented. The Pascale Boquet tutors has a very complete and progressive set of lute music very interesting and funny to play, even if the technical approach is not as deep as the Damiani one. Both of them have also some duet music in the student/teacher form. My personal suggestion is to use together the two tutors; read the technical explanations in Damiani and select the music related to, into the Boquet tutor Best regards Lino -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:47 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Tutors Dear all, I heard that Pascale Boquets lute tutor is very thorough with a slow progression suitable for complete beginners. Can anyone comment, please? Lundgren is perhaps still a bit fast if someone has never played an instrument before, what do you think? (I recall Damiani as being a bit dry, and Poulton is of course advancing too soon for a complete newby.) Regards, Stephan To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] bach cello suite
Hello Jim, We edited one cellosuite for baroque lute the BWV 1008 with fingerings by Agnès Tamignaux, see our webpage under publications http://home.tiscali.be/lutacabel/index.html It only costs 6 EURO for sending in Europe but for the US you'll have to add postage costs, I can inquire how much this would be. By the way: take a look at the pictures of our luteday last sunday http://home.tiscali.be/lutacabel/index_e.html under Gallery lutedays 2005 regards from Belgium Greet Schamp Belgian Lute academy To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Early Type Specimens in the Plantin-Moretus Museum
they have a web site, even an english version, at http://museum.antwerpen.be/plantin_moretus/index_eng.html It's a very nice museum, you should really visit when passing in Belgium, I live nearby so I can guide if you want there is also a museum of musical instruments nearby http://museum.antwerpen.be/vleeshuis/index_eng.html Greet Schamp Antwerpen Belgium To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Minikins, Catlins, Lyons, Pistoys, Gimped...
Hello lutenetters, Last week I got new basses from Mimmo for my baroque lute: it is gut , copper wound I think the official name is demi-filé and very flexible. Of course I still have to tune a lot these days, but I like the sound very much, a bit sustain but not too much. Luckily the holes at the bridge were big enough, only one peg I had to enlarge a bit. There are also some problems: as these new strings are much thicker than the metal wound strings, they tend to buzz. My lute by Michael Lowe, has a bass rider but from the C string (11the course) all strings go into the peg box. I've seen other solutions, leading some of these basses to the pegs outside the peg box, but then the nut has to be replaced and also the strings going to the bass rider are an obstruction for this solution. Mimmo sent me 8 of those basses (6th to 13nd), but I still kept the original metal and nylgut octave strings, I suppose it's better to change this to gut too of course, but then the problem of buzzing will increase. The price of those new strings is not cheap, I payed 104 EURO plus postage but I think it's worth that price. Who can give me some more suggestions? Benjamin Narvey wrote: Hello Lutenetters! After about one year of experimenting with gut, I've come to realise that, actually, I know precious little detail about the historical types of strings mentioned above, and just how they relate (and indeed, if they do!) to the modern gut strings with the same titles. Does anybody out there know? (ahem, ahem, Mimmo, are you still out there? Martin???) I realise the question of stringing really is the $64,000 question (if indeed, I have the sum right - the game show offered some significant remuneration at any rate), and that the poverty of knowledge about such historical types is perhaps the most pressing lacuna concerning historical performance on the lute to date. I have read Mace and Varietie, amongst other historical sources, that deal with stringing in order to better understand what was going on then - but I find the information I have been able to glean lacking in precision. What soures are today's stringmakers reading? Am I missing something? I have also visited various stringmaking sites such as Gamut and Aquila - but here too I find the description of historical string types to be lacking, as too is the clarity between the historical types and their modern appellative heirs. So, if anyone could tell me (that is, if it is known/or at least what is known) about these historical types and their modern equivalents I'd be well pleased! I'm sure that if anyone knows, anyone will be on this list! All best! Benjamin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Adrian Denss
Arne, You could write her a letter, unfortunately she has no e-mail, she's in her seventies but still working, especially on Flemish luteplayers and lutecomposers from the Ancien régime. I can give you her postal address. Most of her writings are published in flemish (dutch). She will feel happy finding people interested in Adrian Denss. Greet Schamp Belgium Burgon, Christopher wrote: Arne You could try Spiessens, Godelieve. Adrian Denss, een Duits luitcomponist van Antwerpse komaf (Antwerpen, ca. 1545? - Keulen?, 1596/1608). Revue Belge de Musicologie: 51; 1997. 81-99. Best, Chris -Original Message- From: Arne Keller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2004 16:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Adrian Denss Dear all, who has biographical info on Adrian Denss? Thanks, Arne. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html ** Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook * The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. *
belgian lute day 10/10/04
Dear lutefriends, For those who are close enought to Brussels on october 10th, please take a look at our website: http://users.belgacom.net/lute/ where you can find the whole programme of our annual luteday hope to meet you there! Greet Schamp Belgian Lute academy --
Joseph Iadone
Dear collective wisdom, A couple of months ago I read the announcement of the death of one of the pioneers of the revival of the lute, Joseph Iadone. Is there any portrait of him available, especially one of him playing his lute. I'm preparing a series of articles about the revival and the Romantic view upon the lute in the late 19th and early 20th century. thanks Greet Schamp Belgium
Suzuki for lute or guitar
Hello, Some 15 years ago I bought a second hand soprano lute in D (43 cm string length) and my son of 3 learnt to play on it some nursery rhymes he knew already by ear. I think the most difficult thing for small children is to hold the instrument, not too firm otherwise they block but not too loose either or the instrument slips. For my small guitar pupils I use small guitars starting from about 50 cm to 60 cm mensure. (Actually they can rent these from the music school). I also have some knowledge of the Suzuki violin method because I did it for several years with my daughter who started also at three, but after a few years she went on in the normal music school system. I don't think they advance much more when you start very early, it just takes more time to progress, they have to learn to use their fingers separately etc..When starting at an older age they just go quicker IMHO. The main target is that they enjoy playing music, not to become child prodigy ! Greet Schamp Belgium
Re: splitted courses
Mouton uses it , the big letter is the bas course, the small letter the upper octave so playing with thumb you have to stop in the middle for the lower note and then go on like apoyando for the higher afterwards, the opposite direction I don't remember to have seen yet. Greet Stefan Ecke wrote: Dear list members, I wonder where in lute literature one find splitted courses. That is, the two strings of a course are stopped at different frets to produce two different notes. I only know the examples of the Capirola book. Has anybody of you ever used a splitted course in continuo playing to obtain a chord that was otherwise unplayable? Greetings, Stefan
