Re: Bug reports by ordinary users?
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: Are there still plans to try a bugzilla revival? I think there is still a shortage of someone with the skill to install and maintain a bugzilla installation, so I think this is still not likely to happen. I can't answer any of your other questions, but I think it's good that you asked them. regards, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Some remaining Trac problems
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: * Web/wiki/trac pages have 30s idle times Not really trac releated I guess... I have tried to figure out what causes the delay, but no luck yet. I don't think it's specific to Trac either, and I'm not completely convinced it's because of mod-security disabled. I'll have to do some more testing on this. Which apache file is it that redirects to Trac? (In case I want to do some diagnosing). Since I haven't seen any high loads on the new server, and the network should be good, the next guess is I/O or the fact that we're on a VM. Regarding I/O, a friend recommeded 'iotop' to see what the I/O is up to, but that requires a later kerel so I haven't installed iotop. http://www.ducea.com/2009/03/11/howto-install-iotop-on-debian-etch/ As for high loads on the host of the VM, I have no idea at the moment on how to test this. * redirection http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5836 -> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5836 I'll have a look (eventually). Same here. * Trac homepage into the top line of buttons I don't get it. What does this mean? (And I am pretty sure that we don't want a link to edgewall there.) I don't get it either... It was added to the original page by Pavel. Pavel? Finally, is it ok if I start using our Trac installation to track issues related to the web and the wiki? I could just use a list on a wiki page instead, but it'd be a good way for me to learn to use Trac. From my POV just go ahead. I'll do that then. cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: i started new section of TODOs for our server migration so we dont forget all problems we have reported. http://www.lyx.org/NewWebsiteDevelopment I've moved these TODOs to another page on the wiki, here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Administration#todo The wiki doesn't require a password, so it's slightly easier to use and more on topic in my opinion. regards, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: i started new section of TODOs for our server migration so we dont forget all problems we have reported. http://www.lyx.org/NewWebsiteDevelopment I've moved these TODOs to another page on the wiki, here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Administration#todo The wiki doesn't require a password, so it's slightly easier to use and more on topic in my opinion. regards, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: [patch] bug 3038: LFUN_BUFFER_ZOOM_IN/OUT
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: This patch adds two LFUNs to zoom in and zoom-out. Also looks good and useful. Can we bind to Ctrl-plus and Ctrl-minus? Yes, if we can agree upon breaking the Ctrl-minus binding to command-alternatives math-macro-fold;specialchar-insert hyphenation. I use 'Ctrl-minus' to insert hypenation, so breaking that seems bad to me. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: [patch] bug 3038: LFUN_BUFFER_ZOOM_IN/OUT
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I use 'Ctrl-minus' to insert hypenation, so breaking that seems bad to me. OTHO, Ctrl-+/- for zooming in/out is pretty standard nowadaws; Firefox, Internet Explorer, Konqueror... Open office use Ctlr-- for some kind of hyphen. Does anyone know what MS Word does for that key combination? I think I'd be using hyphens more often than zooming when writing. This would of course be different in a browser where I don't use hyphens. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: As for the web and the wiki, they should be fully operational so please report anything that isn't working. many pages in doxygen are unreachible, eg http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/namespacelyx.html Apparantly mod-security is at it again. This time with this error message: [Sat Apr 04 17:01:40 2009] [error] [client 87.96.216.170] ModSecurity: Output filter: Content-Length (5451321) over the limit (70). [hostname wiki.lyx.org] [uri /sourcedoc/svn/namespacelyx.html] [unique_id 8VPKvtTJRSsAACHkkbYD] I disabled mod-securitys rules for the sourcedoc/-directories. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: [patch] bug 3038: LFUN_BUFFER_ZOOM_IN/OUT
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > This patch adds two LFUNs to zoom in and zoom-out. Also looks good and useful. Can we bind to Ctrl-plus and Ctrl-minus? Yes, if we can agree upon breaking the Ctrl-minus binding to "command-alternatives math-macro-fold;specialchar-insert hyphenation". I use 'Ctrl-minus' to insert hypenation, so breaking that seems bad to me. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: [patch] bug 3038: LFUN_BUFFER_ZOOM_IN/OUT
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I use 'Ctrl-minus' to insert hypenation, so breaking that seems bad to me. OTHO, Ctrl-+/- for zooming in/out is pretty standard nowadaws; Firefox, Internet Explorer, Konqueror... Open office use Ctlr-- for some kind of hyphen. Does anyone know what MS Word does for that key combination? I think I'd be using hyphens more often than zooming when writing. This would of course be different in a browser where I don't use hyphens. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: As for the web and the wiki, they should be fully operational so please report anything that isn't working. many pages in doxygen are unreachible, eg http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/namespacelyx.html Apparantly mod-security is at it again. This time with this error message: [Sat Apr 04 17:01:40 2009] [error] [client 87.96.216.170] ModSecurity: Output filter: Content-Length (5451321) over the limit (70). [hostname "wiki.lyx.org"] [uri "/sourcedoc/svn/namespacelyx.html"] [unique_id "8VPKvtTJRSsAACHkkbYD"] I disabled mod-securitys rules for the sourcedoc/-directories. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
TRAC slow?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Note that even if I run the wget-command from lyx.lyx.org, it still takes 15-20 seconds before Apache responds. I'm guessing the culprit is ModSecurity... i'm still suffering with this problem. Lars, can you do something about it? I think the slowness is not related to my issue, but it is indeed annoying. Below is a command I ran on lyx.lyx.org repeatedly (ten times): time wget -q 'http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/status.16x?format=raw' with the following times [seconds]: 23.1, 8.7, 25.3, 0.7, 0.6, 0.6, 4.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.1, 0.1, 0.1 Could it be that mod-security is inspecting the file that is returned, and after a while the file is being cached and then it's quick to download? So I tried with BRANCH_1_5_X/status.15x instead, and got the following: 21.1, 0.6, 0.1, 0.6, 0.1, 0.6, 0.1, 0.9, 0.6, 0.1 Finally I tried with ABOUT-NLS in trunk, and got this: 3.5, 0.2, 0.2, 1.1, 16.1, 19.2, 4.7, 0.1, 0.7, 0.1, 0.3 This result seems strange to me... initally 3 seconds and then down to nothing, and then suddenly it takes 16.1, and 19.2 and then 4.7 seconds. So something seems strange to me. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
TRAC slow?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Note that even if I run the wget-command from lyx.lyx.org, it still takes 15-20 seconds before Apache responds. I'm guessing the culprit is ModSecurity... i'm still suffering with this problem. Lars, can you do something about it? I think the slowness is not related to my issue, but it is indeed annoying. Below is a command I ran on lyx.lyx.org repeatedly (ten times): time wget -q 'http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/status.16x?format=raw' with the following times [seconds]: 23.1, 8.7, 25.3, 0.7, 0.6, 0.6, 4.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.1, 0.1, 0.1 Could it be that mod-security is inspecting the file that is returned, and after a while the file is being cached and then it's quick to download? So I tried with BRANCH_1_5_X/status.15x instead, and got the following: 21.1, 0.6, 0.1, 0.6, 0.1, 0.6, 0.1, 0.9, 0.6, 0.1 Finally I tried with ABOUT-NLS in trunk, and got this: 3.5, 0.2, 0.2, 1.1, 16.1, 19.2, 4.7, 0.1, 0.7, 0.1, 0.3 This result seems strange to me... initally 3 seconds and then down to nothing, and then suddenly it takes 16.1, and 19.2 and then 4.7 seconds. So something seems strange to me. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes: I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc Would somebody object if I changed that to generate the output to the build directory? Certainly not me. Is it difficult to set up configure so that you can give it a flag that species this particular output directory? I could then invoke ./configure on the server using this flag so that the HTML output is immediately sent to the right place in the web structure. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Minor TRAC issue and TRAC slow? (Was: Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working)
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: As for the web and the wiki, they should be fully operational so please report anything that isn't working. http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch On the wiki page, LyX/NewInBranch, there is code that fails to include a file from the VCS via TRAC. It doesn't work and results in ugly messages being shown on the wiki page, e.g Warning: file(snip../snip) [function.file]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request in /home/lyx/www/wiki.lyx.org/farm.d/local/farmconfig.php on line 237 The file in question is accessed through the following URI http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/status.16x?format=raw Going manually to this URI will not show the file (it used to do this), but instead my browser asks me if I want to download the file. I assume that the file doesn't have its file type set as 'text' the way it should. Lars, could you see if you can make the file type of the above file become text? I'm hoping that will fix this problem. Something feels strange though... when I from the command line try the following: wget 'http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/status.16x?format=raw' it takes about 20 seconds before Apaches _starts_ returning the file in question? What's up with that? This could mean that the problem is really a timeout, but I'm not sure. Note that even if I run the wget-command from lyx.lyx.org, it still takes 15-20 seconds before Apache responds. I'm guessing the culprit is ModSecurity... Anyway, if the fix turns out to be setting the file type to text, then the following files should also have their types changed, in order to fix similar errors in three other wiki pages: * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/development/lyx.rpm.README?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/tags/lyx_1_5_0beta2/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/tags/lyx_1_5_0beta1/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/tags/lyx-1_6_1/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: r29011 - lyx-devel/trunk/sourcedoc
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: lasgout...@lyx.org writes: Log: Output doxygen stuff in build directory by default. It is however possible to change the output dorectory by using make OUTPUT_DIR=/my/path doxydoc Christian, does this fit your needs? Perfect! I've started to document this aspect here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Administration#doxygen just need to fill in a few details, e.g. location. Thanks, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/... is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ? i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere on the server. I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it here: http://www.lyx.org/misc/ But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all??? /Christian PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian Ridderström <christian.ridderst...@gmail.com> writes: I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc Would somebody object if I changed that to generate the output to the build directory? Certainly not me. Is it difficult to set up configure so that you can give it a flag that species this particular output directory? I could then invoke ./configure on the server using this flag so that the HTML output is immediately sent to the right place in the web structure. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Minor TRAC issue and TRAC slow? (Was: Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working)
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: As for the web and the wiki, they should be fully operational so please report anything that isn't working. http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch On the wiki page, LyX/NewInBranch, there is code that fails to include a file from the VCS via TRAC. It doesn't work and results in ugly messages being shown on the wiki page, e.g Warning: file(..) [function.file]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request in /home/lyx/www/wiki.lyx.org/farm.d/local/farmconfig.php on line 237 The file in question is accessed through the following URI http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/status.16x?format=raw Going manually to this URI will not show the file (it used to do this), but instead my browser asks me if I want to download the file. I assume that the file doesn't have its file type set as 'text' the way it should. Lars, could you see if you can make the file type of the above file become text? I'm hoping that will fix this problem. Something feels strange though... when I from the command line try the following: wget 'http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/status.16x?format=raw' it takes about 20 seconds before Apaches _starts_ returning the file in question? What's up with that? This could mean that the problem is really a timeout, but I'm not sure. Note that even if I run the wget-command from lyx.lyx.org, it still takes 15-20 seconds before Apache responds. I'm guessing the culprit is ModSecurity... Anyway, if the fix turns out to be setting the file type to text, then the following files should also have their types changed, in order to fix similar errors in three other wiki pages: * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/development/lyx.rpm.README?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/tags/lyx_1_5_0beta2/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/tags/lyx_1_5_0beta1/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw * http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/tags/lyx-1_6_1/RELEASE-NOTES?format=raw /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: r29011 - lyx-devel/trunk/sourcedoc
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: lasgout...@lyx.org writes: Log: Output doxygen stuff in build directory by default. It is however possible to change the output dorectory by using make OUTPUT_DIR=/my/path doxydoc Christian, does this fit your needs? Perfect! I've started to document this aspect here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Administration#doxygen just need to fill in a few details, e.g. location. Thanks, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? i would put all the things which were under ~user/.. into some structure say svn://www-user/trunk/misc/... is it possible to setup things that addressing www.lyx.org/misc/X goes into svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X ? i finally moved things there, i guess, you need svn update somewhere on the server. I've updated the checked out www-user tree on the server. You can see it here: http://www.lyx.org/misc/ But I don't understand this bit with svn://www-user/trunk/misc/X at all??? /Christian PS. I'm not sure about the images from Berlin, so I disabled 'rx' for others for that directory, so it's currently not world readable. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: dot? needed for generation of ancestry graph visualization (of course doxygen will run even without, but they wont be produced..) It was my mistake, I didn't have doxygen installed when building LyX. I've now built the documentation with doxygen, the only tricky thing was figuring out to install graphviz in order to get 'dot'. Guess I should have read some README somewhere? Onething I did notice though. Here's the directory structure I'm using for building: ~/lyx/ lyx-devel/ - working directory checked out from SVN build/ - directory where build takes place I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc So it seems you're hardcoding the output to appear in the directory checked out from SVN. Is there a reason for this? The size of the generated html (i.e. the directory html/) is about 137 MB. Do we need generated documentation for more than just the latest SVN? If so, are these the versions we are interested in? * 1.5.x * 1.6.x * Trunk (SVN) Or is it enough with just the stuff from trunk? Location of the generated documenation...? Does this belong under wiki.lyx.org or www.lyx.org? Do you have an idea for the URI? For now I've placed the output here: http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/ Right now it takes a manual action to generate the output and place it in this location. cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: this is not directly related to trac itself but - would it be possible to setup bugzilla.lyx.org in the way that http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449 redirects into http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/449 Yes, I believe this is possible with URI rewriting. I could do it if Lars' redirects the domain bugzilla.lyx.org to lyx.lyx.org. Yes, I'll do that. I tried fiddling with the apache settings in 'bugzilla.lyx.org.conf', but I couldn't figure out the correct magic. How are requests to TRAC redirected? I can't figure out _how_ http://www.lyx.org/trac correctly translated to the right CGI. It should be in www.lyx.org.conf, but I don't see it... /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: dot? needed for generation of ancestry graph visualization (of course doxygen will run even without, but they wont be produced..) It was my mistake, I didn't have doxygen installed when building LyX. I've now built the documentation with doxygen, the only tricky thing was figuring out to install graphviz in order to get 'dot'. Guess I should have read some README somewhere? Onething I did notice though. Here's the directory structure I'm using for building: ~/lyx/ lyx-devel/ <- working directory checked out from SVN build/ <- directory where build takes place I'd like to generate the output inside ~/lyx/build, to keep the work directory from SVN more clean, and it let's me just do 'rm -rf build' to start over. However, when I look in the file ~/lyx/build/Doxyfile it seems that the location of the generated output is hardcoded: # The OUTPUT_DIRECTORY tag is used to specify the (relative or absolute) # base path where the generated documentation will be put. # If a relative path is entered, it will be relative to the location # where doxygen was started. If left blank the current directory will be # used. OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = ../../lyx-devel/sourcedoc So it seems you're hardcoding the output to appear in the directory checked out from SVN. Is there a reason for this? The size of the generated html (i.e. the directory html/) is about 137 MB. Do we need generated documentation for more than just the latest SVN? If so, are these the versions we are interested in? * 1.5.x * 1.6.x * Trunk (SVN) Or is it enough with just the stuff from trunk? Location of the generated documenation...? Does this belong under wiki.lyx.org or www.lyx.org? Do you have an idea for the URI? For now I've placed the output here: http://wiki.lyx.org/sourcedoc/svn/ Right now it takes a manual action to generate the output and place it in this location. cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: this is not directly related to trac itself but - would it be possible to setup bugzilla.lyx.org in the way that http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449 redirects into http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/449 Yes, I believe this is possible with URI rewriting. I could do it if Lars' redirects the domain bugzilla.lyx.org to lyx.lyx.org. Yes, I'll do that. I tried fiddling with the apache settings in 'bugzilla.lyx.org.conf', but I couldn't figure out the correct magic. How are requests to TRAC redirected? I can't figure out _how_ http://www.lyx.org/trac correctly translated to the right CGI. It should be in www.lyx.org.conf, but I don't see it... /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: www.lyx.org/~joost So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we want to keep, and if it still should be on the web. i have already made some checking and backups before aussie death - there are meetings pics, lyx archeology, doxygen docs, some bits for wiki pakes eg lyx geography files and so. i would setup those things back, but Lars refused to give me login access so either move it to some third party server or let it die. Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server? Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). The bit about geography I didn't understand. If you tell me what to do, I can do it. regards, /Christian PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting the number of users on the server. Guess it depends on how we feel it should be used, and it's probably related to us not (?) paying for it. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote: Well maybe the LyX web site is quite popular who knows? :-) Actually, we don't even know if LyX users count in the thousands, hundreds of thousand or millions... http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Can you login to aussi.lyx.org, and then upload these pictures to the wiki's uploads section? (The page is currently incomplete as it's missing the pictures). /Christian Yes it is popular, have a look here: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/lyx.org Lyx.org has a traffic rank of: 168,508 but this is access of alexa archive, not access of lyx.org, right? pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
Oops... uploads don't seem to be working. Guess that'll be the next thing I have to look at. /C http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Yes it is popular, have a look here: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/lyx.org Lyx.org has a traffic rank of: 168,508 but this is access of alexa archive, not access of lyx.org, right? pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote: Well maybe the LyX web site is quite popular who knows? :-) Actually, we don't even know if LyX users count in the thousands, hundreds of thousand or millions... http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Not sure if i did something that mattered, but now uploads work. I've created a directory uploads/Devel/LyXGeography to which you can upload the pictures. Then you can change the links in the wiki page to point to e.g.: uploads:/Devel/LyXGeograph/pic.png cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Lars Gullik Bj??nnes wrote: The full conversion is done, I'd like you to have a look at the result. this is not directly related to trac itself but - would it be possible to setup bugzilla.lyx.org in the way that http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449 redirects into http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/449 ? Yes, I believe this is possible with URI rewriting. I could do it if Lars' redirects the domain bugzilla.lyx.org to lyx.lyx.org. Lars' ? regards /Christian we have zilion of such links in older mails, commit logs and diversely on the internet. pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes: Yes, I believe this is possible with URI rewriting. I could do it if Lars' redirects the domain bugzilla.lyx.org to lyx.lyx.org. What may be more complicated is http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449#c4 since it seems that comments got renumbered. If they were renumbered in a consistent way, I could do it with a little bit of PHP code I guess. Is it consistent? /Christian JMarc -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working
Hi, I think that we now have more or less successfully migrated the web site, the wiki site and the ability to upload files to the new server. The only thing not fully operational at the moment is bugzilla.lyx.org. For issues, please see http://www.lyx.org/trac/report As for the web and the wiki, they should be fully operational so please report anything that isn't working. cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Feature req: shortcuts in description pop-up
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote: Piero Faustini wrote: Wouldn't be nice to be informed of a shortcut combination when passing the cursor on a button, along with the purpose/name of that button? (this is for all those I-Want-To-Keep-My-Hands-On-Keyboard LaTeX users) I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't he mean that when holding the mouse pointer over an icon on the toolbar, the user should be shown the keyboard shortcut for doing that action? /Christian rh -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderström wrote: Hi, Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g. www.lyx.org/~joost To see what youu have, please use this instaed http://62.70.27.115/~bpeng/ where the IP number was retrieved using 'host aussie'. If you try aussie.lyx.org/~bpeng, you're just redirected to www.lyx.org. /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Mailing list: Approving an address?
FYI: The new server is now allowed to e-mail the documentation and the developers' list. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server? i would like to have control over it because of actualizations. I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? If you tell me what to do, I can do it. i can provide the backups privately if you want. ? We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well? PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting the number of users on the server. i understand that its nonsense to provide account for any dev if the only usage is commiting to svn. on the other hand i dont see why forbid those very few people which contributed other stuff outside the scope of the official web. i also hope there is somebody except Lars with admin privileges, once he hides again somewhere in norwegian forests :) I have 'sudo', so unless something happens to Scandiavia we're not completely off:-) You have a good point though, and I've been thinking of checking with Lars if perhaps someone like Jean-Marc shouldn't have access (he was root on aussie). Especially as Lars knows nothing of the web/wiki stuff. Anyway, I guess this is stuff to be discussed a bit further down the road, once the most urgen stuff (issue tracking) is working. regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Feature req: shortcuts in description pop-up
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote: Piero Faustini wrote: Wouldn't be nice to be informed of a shortcut combination when passing the cursor on a button, along with the purpose/name of that button? (this is for all those I-Want-To-Keep-My-Hands-On-Keyboard LaTeX users) I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't he mean that when holding the mouse pointer over an icon on the toolbar, the user should be shown the keyboard shortcut for doing that action? Maybe. But this seems like NOT having your hands on the keyboard. I think the idea is to show the keyboard shortcut in order to encourage the use of the keyboard instead of the icons. Actually, I think I've been wanting this feature myself... If someone wants to give TRAC a try, they could see how easy/difficult it is to find out if the above feature is already entered as a feature reqest. /C -- Christian RidderströmMobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote: Well maybe the LyX web site is quite popular who knows? :-) Actually, we don't even know if LyX users count in the thousands, hundreds of thousand or millions... http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Not sure if i did something that mattered, but now uploads work. not your fault, everything was stored in ~sanda If you upload the file to the wiki (perhaps to /Devel/LyXGeography/access2008/ the relevant wiki markup might be something like this: [[uploads:/Devel/LyXGeography/access2008/apachemap.html|uploads:/Devel/LyXGeography/access2008/overview.jpg]] /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). dot? Never mind. For fun, I tried checking it out and it's trying to build now. Debian systems are _so_ easy to use :-) Even so, what do you think of putting the doxygen related stuff into SVN? Then you fiddle and set up the stuff, and then I check it out on the server and we can run the update there? Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? ? We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well? ssh kicked me out and i was lazy to investigate further... Please try again, I can log in still? /Christian pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). Compilation worked. Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere in lyx-devel? /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: www.lyx.org/~joost So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we want to keep, and if it still should be on the web. i have already made some checking and backups before aussie death - there are meetings pics, lyx archeology, doxygen docs, some bits for wiki pakes eg lyx geography files and so. i would setup those things back, but Lars refused to give me login access so either move it to some third party server or let it die. Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server? Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). The bit about geography I didn't understand. If you tell me what to do, I can do it. regards, /Christian PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting the number of users on the server. Guess it depends on how we feel it should be used, and it's probably related to us not (?) paying for it. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote: Well maybe the LyX web site is quite popular who knows? :-) Actually, we don't even know if LyX users count in the thousands, hundreds of thousand or millions... http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Can you login to aussi.lyx.org, and then upload these pictures to the wiki's uploads section? (The page is currently incomplete as it's missing the pictures). /Christian Yes it is popular, have a look here: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/lyx.org Lyx.org has a traffic rank of: 168,508 but this is access of alexa archive, not access of lyx.org, right? pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
Oops... uploads don't seem to be working. Guess that'll be the next thing I have to look at. /C http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Yes it is popular, have a look here: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/lyx.org Lyx.org has a traffic rank of: 168,508 but this is access of alexa archive, not access of lyx.org, right? pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote: Well maybe the LyX web site is quite popular who knows? :-) Actually, we don't even know if LyX users count in the thousands, hundreds of thousand or millions... http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Not sure if i did something that mattered, but now uploads work. I've created a directory uploads/Devel/LyXGeography to which you can upload the pictures. Then you can change the links in the wiki page to point to e.g.: uploads:/Devel/LyXGeograph/pic.png cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Lars Gullik Bj??nnes wrote: The full conversion is done, I'd like you to have a look at the result. this is not directly related to trac itself but - would it be possible to setup bugzilla.lyx.org in the way that http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449 redirects into http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/449 ? Yes, I believe this is possible with URI rewriting. I could do it if Lars' redirects the domain bugzilla.lyx.org to lyx.lyx.org. Lars' ? regards /Christian we have zilion of such links in older mails, commit logs and diversely on the internet. pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian Ridderström <christian.ridderst...@gmail.com> writes: Yes, I believe this is possible with URI rewriting. I could do it if Lars' redirects the domain bugzilla.lyx.org to lyx.lyx.org. What may be more complicated is http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449#c4 since it seems that comments got renumbered. If they were renumbered in a consistent way, I could do it with a little bit of PHP code I guess. Is it consistent? /Christian JMarc -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working
Hi, I think that we now have more or less successfully migrated the web site, the wiki site and the ability to upload files to the new server. The only thing not fully operational at the moment is bugzilla.lyx.org. For issues, please see http://www.lyx.org/trac/report As for the web and the wiki, they should be fully operational so please report anything that isn't working. cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Feature req: shortcuts in description pop-up
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote: Piero Faustini wrote: Wouldn't be nice to be informed of a shortcut combination when passing the cursor on a button, along with the purpose/name of that button? (this is for all those I-Want-To-Keep-My-Hands-On-Keyboard LaTeX users) I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't he mean that when holding the mouse pointer over an icon on the toolbar, the user should be shown the keyboard shortcut for doing that action? /Christian rh -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderström wrote: Hi, Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g. www.lyx.org/~joost To see what youu have, please use this instaed http://62.70.27.115/~bpeng/ where the IP number was retrieved using 'host aussie'. If you try aussie.lyx.org/~bpeng, you're just redirected to www.lyx.org. /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Mailing list: Approving an address?
FYI: The new server is now allowed to e-mail the documentation and the developers' list. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Maybe I could/should set up the doxygen docs on the new server? i would like to have control over it because of actualizations. I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? If you tell me what to do, I can do it. i can provide the backups privately if you want. ? We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well? PS. I got access after a while, but I also see Lars' point about limiting the number of users on the server. i understand that its nonsense to provide account for any dev if the only usage is commiting to svn. on the other hand i dont see why forbid those very few people which contributed other stuff outside the scope of the official web. i also hope there is somebody except Lars with admin privileges, once he hides again somewhere in norwegian forests :) I have 'sudo', so unless something happens to Scandiavia we're not completely off:-) You have a good point though, and I've been thinking of checking with Lars if perhaps someone like Jean-Marc shouldn't have access (he was root on aussie). Especially as Lars knows nothing of the web/wiki stuff. Anyway, I guess this is stuff to be discussed a bit further down the road, once the most urgen stuff (issue tracking) is working. regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Feature req: shortcuts in description pop-up
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote: > Piero Faustini wrote: > > Wouldn't be nice to be informed of a shortcut combination when passing > > the > > cursor on a button, along with the purpose/name of that button? (this > > is > > for all those I-Want-To-Keep-My-Hands-On-Keyboard LaTeX users) > > > I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't he mean that when holding the mouse pointer over an icon on the toolbar, the user should be shown the keyboard shortcut for doing that action? Maybe. But this seems like NOT having your hands on the keyboard. I think the idea is to show the keyboard shortcut in order to encourage the use of the keyboard instead of the icons. Actually, I think I've been wanting this feature myself... If someone wants to give TRAC a try, they could see how easy/difficult it is to find out if the above feature is already entered as a feature reqest. /C -- Christian RidderströmMobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote: Well maybe the LyX web site is quite popular who knows? :-) Actually, we don't even know if LyX users count in the thousands, hundreds of thousand or millions... http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXGeography Not sure if i did something that mattered, but now uploads work. not your fault, everything was stored in ~sanda If you upload the file to the wiki (perhaps to /Devel/LyXGeography/access2008/ the relevant wiki markup might be something like this: [[uploads:/Devel/LyXGeography/access2008/apachemap.html|uploads:/Devel/LyXGeography/access2008/overview.jpg]] /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). dot? Never mind. For fun, I tried checking it out and it's trying to build now. Debian systems are _so_ easy to use :-) Even so, what do you think of putting the doxygen related stuff into SVN? Then you fiddle and set up the stuff, and then I check it out on the server and we can run the update there? Meeting pics we could put in the wiki (uploads section). it would mean converting already written web pages into wiki which seems to be the stupid way; better to focus your energy into something real :) Maybe you could add the images to a sub-tree of www-user? Then I can just update the checked out tree on the server? ? We can still do 'ssh' to aussie, can't you as well? ssh kicked me out and i was lazy to investigate further... Please try again, I can log in still? /Christian pavel -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't get this bit... I'd set up the system so that we can easily re-generate the documenation. Is that what you mean? (I'll have to check with Lars that it's ok to build LyX on the server first, because I assume doxygen requires a tree that has been built?) hum, this will pull-in dependencies which i doubt are already present (qt,dot). Compilation worked. Why not put the stuff related to doxygen (configuration files?) somewhere in lyx-devel? /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: This is an important issue. We for example had to pay all costs for our last developer meeting on our own but the general LyX donations are exactly for that purpose in my opinion. Moreover are the people who sponsor us still not listed at our webpage while this is the case on Abdel's page and one of the reasons for Abdel's success. Lars indeed approached me after the meeting and I did indeed no see a reason for immediate action (for me, personally). The fact that Berlin costs have been handled... unusually ... can be blamed to a large part to my laziness. From what I remember of Bromarv, some financial aspects were indeed discussed, and I believe LyX funds were used to pay for a dinner. Perhaps our hosts got compensated for (at least partially?) food/beer. It's our (collective) fault in Berlin for not taking more care with the financial aspects, but that is probably what happens when you are used to relying on Lars' to take care of this. Even so, I thought it was quite ok for me to pay for travel and some dining out, while André payed for beer and snacks. And Stephan and his wife contributed with housing and breakfast. So overall I think it was pretty fair, unless the beer/snacks was very expensive for André. Maybe it would be more constructive to discuss how we _would_ like things like this dealt with? Or perhaps even more constructive, to discuss when/where the next LyX meeting should be held? cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Place for sending largish files (Was: Where is the Win installer?)
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Some other way of providing files like that must be provided. (Or perhaps just the regular way: ftp) But this means people will need some kind of accounts, right? I assume it doesn't have to be ftp.lyx.org? This is indeed a feature we need. Agreed. Something in my server hardware at home is shaky, otherwise I would already have set something up. How large files are we talking about? Are there any online services we could use? Maybe a shared gmail account? (We might be violating some TOS if we do that) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: About our bugtracking system
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes schrieb: Because you have not volunteered to do any work... I think I got exactly zero response about my request for some help with bugzilla. I missed that. What can I do to help you? When you can give me the existing bugzilla database, I will try to set it up to a new bugzilla version. This will need some time, but I'll try. You have an account on aussie, don't you? I don't know where the database is located, but maybe it's readable by everyone. Otherwise I guess the best bet is if Lars' has a dump of the database available. Lars', do you have such a dump lying around on the new server? If Uwe really wants to try, I could see to it that he gets it. However... unless Uwe know bugzilla well, I suspect it'll be a lot of work but maybe I'm just pessimistic as I personally I have no knowledge of bugzilla internals. The reason I'm pessimistic is that we have been using an old version of bugzilla, and I don't think changing to a much newer version will be easy. Besides possible difficulties in upgrading and server change, Lars doesn't want to work with it, which is certainly his right. /Christian PS. If it's easy to do the install/migration/upgrade to Bugzilla and Uwe gives it a try somewhere else first, I can certainly do this on the new server with assistance. But giving Trac a good try first seems like something very reasonable to do. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: The full conversion is done, I'd like you to have a look at the result. I'm looking at e.g. http://www.lyx.org/trac/report/1?asc=1sort=statusUSER=anonymous and I wonder if anyone else thinks it's a bit slow? For instance, clicking on a ticket resulted in a 9 second delay before seeing the issue. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Next LyX meeting (Was: New commercial sponsorship)
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: Well, honestly, I don't think anybody doubted Lars' honesty. It was just a problem of lack of information. OK, I see that what I wrote looked like that. So I apologize to people who think I misrepresented their thoughts. Nevertheless, I really think that meeting face-to-face is a must. Seconded. Now where and when? Just reposting with a better subject... /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
RE: Re: Trac conversion done
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: I'm looking at e.g. http://www.lyx.org/trac/report/1?asc=1sort=statusUSER=anonymous and I wonder if anyone else thinks it's a bit slow? We just have t many active bugs.. +- 1000 !? Didn't you say you were running out of bugs ;-) /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Place for sending largish files (Was: Where is the Win installer?)
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com wrote: How large files are we talking about? Are there any online services we could use? Maybe a shared gmail account? (We might be violating some TOS if we do that) /Christian I've used http://www.esnips.com/, which allows 50MB compressed files (up to a total of 5GB). Seems OK. Does it cost money, or is it ad-funded? /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
bugzilla.lyx.org (was: Bug Tracker link on www.lyx.org not working)
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: and problems with migrating bugzilla. I also seem to understand that However, when I go to www.lyx.org and click the Bug Tracker link in the sidebar, I see:: Software error: snip I thought I could set up a virtual host on the new server (lyx.lyx.org) and provide a better error message for bugzilla.lyx.org/*, but it seems I need Lars' help for that. Lars, any thought on this? I can redirect the link in the sidebar of the wiki, but I think we have lots of places referring to bugzilla.lyx.org, so we are probably better of redirecting the domain. /Christian Would it make sense to redirect users to trac? At least a somewhat more specific and helpful error page would be nice. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: I do not see why he deserves it. My wife is also pregnant and I do not boast about it on lyx-devel! Maybe you should. Well, it will be the third, so people are getting tired of always hearing the same news ;) Now you will be outnumbered. Being outnumbered starts with having a wife... Don't you mean outmanned? SCNR /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: This is an important issue. We for example had to pay all costs for our last developer meeting on our own but the general LyX donations are exactly for that purpose in my opinion. Moreover are the people who sponsor us still not listed at our webpage while this is the case on Abdel's page and one of the reasons for Abdel's success. Lars indeed approached me after the meeting and I did indeed no see a reason for immediate action (for me, personally). The fact that Berlin costs have been handled... "unusually" ... can be blamed to a large part to my laziness. From what I remember of Bromarv, some financial aspects were indeed discussed, and I believe LyX funds were used to pay for a dinner. Perhaps our hosts got compensated for (at least partially?) food/beer. It's our (collective) fault in Berlin for not taking more care with the financial aspects, but that is probably what happens when you are used to relying on Lars' to take care of this. Even so, I thought it was quite ok for me to pay for travel and some dining out, while André payed for beer and snacks. And Stephan and his wife contributed with housing and breakfast. So overall I think it was pretty fair, unless the beer/snacks was very expensive for André. Maybe it would be more constructive to discuss how we _would_ like things like this dealt with? Or perhaps even more constructive, to discuss when/where the next LyX meeting should be held? cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Place for sending largish files (Was: Where is the Win installer?)
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Some other way of providing files like that must be provided. (Or perhaps just the regular way: ftp) But this means people will need some kind of accounts, right? I assume it doesn't have to be ftp.lyx.org? This is indeed a feature we need. Agreed. Something in my server hardware at home is shaky, otherwise I would already have set something up. How large files are we talking about? Are there any online services we could use? Maybe a shared gmail account? (We might be violating some TOS if we do that) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: About our bugtracking system
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes schrieb: Because you have not volunteered to do any work... I think I got exactly zero response about my request for some help with bugzilla. I missed that. What can I do to help you? When you can give me the existing bugzilla database, I will try to set it up to a new bugzilla version. This will need some time, but I'll try. You have an account on aussie, don't you? I don't know where the database is located, but maybe it's readable by everyone. Otherwise I guess the best bet is if Lars' has a dump of the database available. Lars', do you have such a dump lying around on the new server? If Uwe really wants to try, I could see to it that he gets it. However... unless Uwe know bugzilla well, I suspect it'll be a lot of work but maybe I'm just pessimistic as I personally I have no knowledge of bugzilla internals. The reason I'm pessimistic is that we have been using an old version of bugzilla, and I don't think changing to a much newer version will be easy. Besides possible difficulties in upgrading and server change, Lars doesn't want to work with it, which is certainly his right. /Christian PS. If it's "easy" to do the install/migration/upgrade to Bugzilla and Uwe gives it a try somewhere else first, I can certainly do this on the new server with assistance. But giving Trac a good try first seems like something very reasonable to do. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Trac conversion done
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: The full conversion is done, I'd like you to have a look at the result. I'm looking at e.g. http://www.lyx.org/trac/report/1?asc=1=status=anonymous and I wonder if anyone else thinks it's a bit slow? For instance, clicking on a ticket resulted in a 9 second delay before seeing the issue. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Next LyX meeting (Was: New commercial sponsorship)
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <you...@lyx.org> writes: > Well, honestly, I don't think anybody doubted Lars' honesty. It was > just a problem of lack of information. > OK, I see that what I wrote looked like that. So I apologize to people who think I misrepresented their thoughts. Nevertheless, I really think that meeting face-to-face is a must. Seconded. Now where and when? Just reposting with a better subject... /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
RE: Re: Trac conversion done
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: I'm looking at e.g. http://www.lyx.org/trac/report/1?asc=1=status=anonymous and I wonder if anyone else thinks it's a bit slow? We just have t many active bugs.. +- 1000 !? Didn't you say you were running out of bugs ;-) /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Place for sending largish files (Was: Where is the Win installer?)
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Christian Ridderström <christian.ridderst...@gmail.com> wrote: How large files are we talking about? Are there any online services we could use? Maybe a shared gmail account? (We might be violating some TOS if we do that) /Christian I've used http://www.esnips.com/, which allows 50MB compressed files (up to a total of 5GB). Seems OK. Does it cost money, or is it ad-funded? /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
bugzilla.lyx.org (was: Bug Tracker link on www.lyx.org not working)
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: and problems with migrating bugzilla. I also seem to understand that However, when I go to www.lyx.org and click the "Bug Tracker" link in the sidebar, I see:: Software error: I thought I could set up a virtual host on the new server (lyx.lyx.org) and provide a better error message for bugzilla.lyx.org/*, but it seems I need Lars' help for that. Lars, any thought on this? I can redirect the link in the sidebar of the wiki, but I think we have lots of places referring to bugzilla.lyx.org, so we are probably better of redirecting the domain. /Christian Would it make sense to redirect users to trac? At least a somewhat more specific and helpful error page would be nice. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: I do not see why he deserves it. My wife is also pregnant and I do not boast about it on lyx-devel! Maybe you should. Well, it will be the third, so people are getting tired of always hearing the same news ;) Now you will be outnumbered. Being outnumbered starts with having a wife... Don't you mean outmanned? SCNR /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: postats.py (Re: r28949 - www-user/trunk/farm/cookbook/LyX)
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't understand why there would be an extra new line after the '?', nor do I get an extra line when I try running the script, so what gives? Maybe because I just fixed it? ;-) Thanks, Christian http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/28953 http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/28954 Jürgen -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: postats.py (Re: r28949 - www-user/trunk/farm/cookbook/LyX)
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't understand why there would be an extra new line after the '?>', nor do I get an extra line when I try running the script, so what gives? Maybe because I just fixed it? ;-) Thanks, Christian http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/28953 http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/28954 Jürgen -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Is there a new process for checking out the source? (my password doesn't work)
Hi, I tried this: svn co svn+ssh://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel which used to work and it asks me for a password (which I've sent to Lars earlier), but it fails after three tries. I've a vague memory it was changed to: svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel which works for checking out, but will I be able to commit later? Is this the new and improved way of doing it? If the process for checking out stuff is changing permanently, we need to update the documentation. cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Where is the Win installer?
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: The installers are available at: www.lyx.org/~joost I get a 404: The requested URL /~joost was not found on this server. (same for my own page, /~spitz) Could you drop the installers to ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/incoming ? That's because www.lyx.org/~joost is now (perhaps?) aussie.lyx.org/~joost. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Note: www.lyx.org/~user no longer accessible
Hi, Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g. www.lyx.org/~joost So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we want to keep, and if it still should be on the web. cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: That said, I do not think this is a bad thing, but I'd like to know that the sponsorhip is for, special procjetcs etc. You meant what the sponsorship is for I guess? Well, isn't it clear? To sponsor the development of the listed feature? It wasn't clear to me at least. By now I infer they're sponsoring a certain feature. I would like more details on how they are to be cited for it? That being said Lars, I guess you received some money throughout the years thanks to your paypal account and we know basically _nothing_ about it ;-) Some of that money at least has been used to sponsor LyX meetings. (Or at least beer;-) cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Some of that money at least has been used to sponsor LyX meetings. (Or at least beer;-) And once upon a time it bought us aussie. Cool, I didn't know that. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Lyx.org has a traffic rank of: 168,508 The LyX Users: United States16.2% Germany13.5% Sweden6.9% Man, I must have spent a lot of time on the lyx site... ;-) Seriously though, I didn't know there are that many Swedish users? /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: It wasn't clear to me at least. By now I infer they're sponsoring a certain feature. I would like more details on how they are to be cited for it? Well exactly as I did? I guess I don't understand what's not clear... Maybe I could figure it out if I wasn't temporarily unable to use a browser[*] and follow your link... Anyway, it sounds like we're talking about putting a link on the donations web page. But what the heck are so many of us sitting and debating this on a Saturday evening? I'd be at a party now with pretty girls if I hadn't got a stupid stomach bug just before going back from Brasil. What's your excuse? ;-) /Christian [*] It's complicated... -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: And once upon a time it bought us aussie. Well, all these details are in your memories, not a very transparent process :-) Not that I care much really but I am trying personally to do things as transparently as possible. It's not easy doing things transparently. I for instance, haven't got a clue about how you deal with the paypal stuff. I'm definitely not blaming you for that, just saying it's difficult to spread that kind of information. Especially as you at the same time want to keep it confidential who contributed how much and so forth. Heck, I guess we don't even know the legal status of 'LyX'! What is it? These are certainly important questions and I think we should talk about them, but please let's not bother Lars' with this stuff right now... He's working on the server which I find much more important. Instead, take this opportunity to see if you've left anything behind on aussie... Maybe we can save discussions for the coming Friday? cheers, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Mailing list: Approving an address?
Hi, I need to get the user 'www-data' from 'lyx.org', 'www.lyx.org' or 'lyx.lyx.org' approved for sending messages to lyx-docs. How do I get this done? The wiki and the web site can send notifications when pages are modified, but I guess the mailing list refuse their posts. Now, I can't (I think) login as 'www-data' and do the mailing stuff, so I need a bit of help. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: What's your excuse? ;-) I am a family man and my wife is pregnant :-) Congratulations! sincere regards /Christian PS. I am so impressed by all developers that make babies, since I know you do this to increase the number of LyX users! I also think it's fine you haven't told your partners of this being the reason, they really are better of not knowing... Oh, if any wives/girlfriends/significant others happen to read this list, the above is a joke. Of course. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
postats.py (Re: r28949 - www-user/trunk/farm/cookbook/LyX)
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: chr wrote: Author: chr Date: Fri Mar 27 23:55:20 2009 New Revision: 28949 URL: http://lyx.lyx.org/trac/changeset/28949 Log: Removed empty lines at end to get rid of warnings Since i18n.inc is autogenerated, we should rather fix this in postats.py. I looked at postats.py, the last lines look like this: print ?php // The current version $lyx_version = %s; // The branch tag $branch_tag = %s; // The data itself $podata = array (%s )? % (sys.argv[1], branch_tag, ,.join([run_msgfmt(po) for po in sys.argv[2:] if po not in ommitted])) I don't understand why there would be an extra new line after the '?', nor do I get an extra line when I try running the script, so what gives? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Is there a new process for checking out the source? (my password doesn't work)
Hi, I tried this: svn co svn+ssh://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel which used to work and it asks me for a password (which I've sent to Lars earlier), but it fails after three tries. I've a vague memory it was changed to: svn co svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/trunk lyx-devel which works for checking out, but will I be able to commit later? Is this the new and improved way of doing it? If the process for checking out stuff is changing permanently, we need to update the documentation. cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Where is the Win installer?
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: The installers are available at: www.lyx.org/~joost I get a 404: "The requested URL /~joost was not found on this server." (same for my own page, /~spitz) Could you drop the installers to ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/incoming ? That's because www.lyx.org/~joost is now (perhaps?) aussie.lyx.org/~joost. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Note: www.lyx.org/~ no longer accessible
Hi, Since www.lyx.org is now being served from the new LyX server, this means that everything developers used to have in personal directories on aussie, the old www.lyx.org, will no longer be available through e.g. www.lyx.org/~joost So we developers should probably check if there's stuff on aussie that we want to keep, and if it still should be on the web. cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: That said, I do not think this is a bad thing, but I'd like to know that the sponsorhip is for, special procjetcs etc. You meant "what the sponsorship is for" I guess? Well, isn't it clear? To sponsor the development of the listed feature? It wasn't clear to me at least. By now I infer they're sponsoring a certain feature. I would like more details on how they are to be cited for it? That being said Lars, I guess you received some money throughout the years thanks to your paypal account and we know basically _nothing_ about it ;-) Some of that money at least has been used to sponsor LyX meetings. (Or at least beer;-) cheers, Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Some of that money at least has been used to sponsor LyX meetings. (Or at least beer;-) And once upon a time it bought us aussie. Cool, I didn't know that. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Lyx.org has a traffic rank of: 168,508 The LyX Users: United States16.2% Germany13.5% Sweden6.9% Man, I must have spent a lot of time on the lyx site... ;-) Seriously though, I didn't know there are that many Swedish users? /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: It wasn't clear to me at least. By now I infer they're sponsoring a certain feature. I would like more details on how they are to be cited for it? Well exactly as I did? I guess I don't understand what's not clear... Maybe I could figure it out if I wasn't temporarily unable to use a browser[*] and follow your link... Anyway, it sounds like we're talking about putting a link on the donations web page. But what the heck are so many of us sitting and debating this on a Saturday evening? I'd be at a party now with pretty girls if I hadn't got a stupid stomach bug just before going back from Brasil. What's your excuse? ;-) /Christian [*] It's complicated... -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: And once upon a time it bought us aussie. Well, all these details are in your memories, not a very transparent process :-) Not that I care much really but I am trying personally to do things as transparently as possible. It's not easy doing things transparently. I for instance, haven't got a clue about how you deal with the paypal stuff. I'm definitely not blaming you for that, just saying it's difficult to spread that kind of information. Especially as you at the same time want to keep it confidential who contributed how much and so forth. Heck, I guess we don't even know the legal status of 'LyX'! What is it? These are certainly important questions and I think we should talk about them, but please let's not bother Lars' with this stuff right now... He's working on the server which I find much more important. Instead, take this opportunity to see if you've "left anything behind" on aussie... Maybe we can save discussions for the coming Friday? cheers, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Mailing list: Approving an address?
Hi, I need to get the user 'www-data' from 'lyx.org', 'www.lyx.org' or 'lyx.lyx.org' approved for sending messages to lyx-docs. How do I get this done? The wiki and the web site can send notifications when pages are modified, but I guess the mailing list refuse their posts. Now, I can't (I think) login as 'www-data' and do the mailing stuff, so I need a bit of help. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: New commercial sponsorship
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: What's your excuse? ;-) I am a family man and my wife is pregnant :-) Congratulations! sincere regards /Christian PS. I am so impressed by all developers that make babies, since I know you do this to increase the number of LyX users! I also think it's fine you haven't told your partners of this being the reason, they really are better of not knowing... Oh, if any wives/girlfriends/significant others happen to read this list, the above is a joke. Of course. -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
postats.py (Re: r28949 - www-user/trunk/farm/cookbook/LyX)
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: chr wrote: Author: chr Date: Fri Mar 27 23:55:20 2009 New Revision: 28949 URL: http://lyx.lyx.org/trac/changeset/28949 Log: Removed empty lines at end to get rid of warnings Since i18n.inc is autogenerated, we should rather fix this in postats.py. I looked at postats.py, the last lines look like this: print """)?>""" % (sys.argv[1], branch_tag, ",".join([run_msgfmt(po) for po in sys.argv[2:] if po not in ommitted])) I don't understand why there would be an extra new line after the '?>', nor do I get an extra line when I try running the script, so what gives? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: mod_security probably screws up the wiki
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote:
[Thu Mar 26 00:18:34 2009] [error] [client 201.38.240.167]
ModSecurity: Access denied with code 400 (phase 2). Pattern match
%(?!$|W|[0-9a-fA-F]{2}|u[0-9a-fA-F]{4}) at ARGS:text. [id
950107] [msg URL Encoding Abuse Attack Attempt] [severity
WARNING] [hostname wiki.lyx.org] [uri
/LyX/LyxFunctions?action=edit] [unique_id
t-bZsNTJRSsAAFdQ568B]
You mean check for a %, right? The rule seems to protect against
characters hidden in hex codes.
Yes, sorry. I still don't see a %, though.
Thanks for the thips, you're right on I believe. There are '%' in the
arguments that are posted, more specially in the argument that contains
the wiki markup for the entire page. This is of course sent to the server
when saving a page.
I checked, and it's possible to edit a wiki page that does _not_ contain a
'%' in the wiki markup, whereas the page that failed does contain one...
It'll be highly unpractical if we don't allow '%' as part of the wiki
markup.
Lars, any thoghts on this? I thought I saw something when logging in
about not disabling mod_security, but can we configure it to do exceptions
or something?
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: cannot commit to www-user/trunk/farm
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I don't understand... does commit fail? Or is it just the web site that isn't updated? The latter is not automatically updated yet. I cannot commit, since svn does not detect the differences in my local tree. I just comitted changes at the new server, could you see if it updates in your working copy? /C Jürgen -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: mod_security probably screws up the wiki
Apparantely the issue with wiki(s) and ModSecurity was rather well
known for people running ther software on hosting providers. Here's what
the PmWiki documentation says:
Some of my posts are coming back with 403 Forbidden errors, Not
Acceptable, or Internal Server Error. This happens with some
posts but not others.
Your webserver probably has mod_security enabled. The mod_security
feature scans all incoming posts for forbidden words or phrases
that might indicate someone is trying to hack the system, and if
any of them are present then Apache returns the 403 Forbidden
error. Common phrases that tend to trigger mod_security include
curl , wget, file(, and system(, although there are many
others.
Since mod_security intercepts the requests and sends the
forbidden message before PmWiki ever gets a chance to run, it's
not a bug in PmWiki, and there's little that PmWiki can do about
it. Instead, one has to alter the webserver configuration to
disable mod_security or reconfigure it to allow whatever word it
is forbidding. Some sites may be able to disable mod_security by
placing SecFilterEngine off in a .htaccess file.
Lars, how do you think we should handle this? Are we allowed to disable
ModSecurity for a certain hosts? Can we configure it differently?
/Christian
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderström wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, rgheck wrote:
[Thu Mar 26 00:18:34 2009] [error] [client 201.38.240.167]
ModSecurity: Access denied with code 400 (phase 2). Pattern match
%(?!$|W|[0-9a-fA-F]{2}|u[0-9a-fA-F]{4}) at ARGS:text. [id
950107] [msg URL Encoding Abuse Attack Attempt] [severity
WARNING] [hostname wiki.lyx.org] [uri
/LyX/LyxFunctions?action=edit] [unique_id
t-bZsNTJRSsAAFdQ568B]
You mean check for a %, right? The rule seems to protect against
characters hidden in hex codes.
Yes, sorry. I still don't see a %, though.
Thanks for the thips, you're right on I believe. There are '%' in the
arguments that are posted, more specially in the argument that contains the
wiki markup for the entire page. This is of course sent to the server when
saving a page.
I checked, and it's possible to edit a wiki page that does _not_ contain a
'%' in the wiki markup, whereas the page that failed does contain one...
It'll be highly unpractical if we don't allow '%' as part of the wiki markup.
Lars, any thoghts on this? I thought I saw something when logging in about
not disabling mod_security, but can we configure it to do exceptions or
something?
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: cannot commit to www-user/trunk/farm
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I just comitted changes at the new server, could you see if it updates in your working copy? Yes, it does. And if you modify the e.g. i18n.php, SVN still doesn't see the file as different? /C Jürgen -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
