Re: [M100] $9 computer
It has bluetooth and wifi. There are some guys on the HPLX mailing list talking about making a pocket computer with it. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:43 PM Hiraghm wrote: > This bit doesn't deal with the M100, but... > this board looks small enough to fit inside an old-fashioned (big) > pocket watch case. If one could put a decent display on it, and maybe a > very thin membrane keyboard in the watch's lid, it would make a very > cool steampunk pocket computer. > > I can't recall if it has bluetooth or wifi (I think it has wifi?), but > with wireless, it could remain in your pocket while acting as storage > for the M100. >
Re: [M100] $9 computer
This bit doesn't deal with the M100, but... this board looks small enough to fit inside an old-fashioned (big) pocket watch case. If one could put a decent display on it, and maybe a very thin membrane keyboard in the watch's lid, it would make a very cool steampunk pocket computer. I can't recall if it has bluetooth or wifi (I think it has wifi?), but with wireless, it could remain in your pocket while acting as storage for the M100.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Hi Jan, Thank you. I stand corrected. The device need to be formulated before we name it.I like the idea of making real hardware to do this job.We could all convert to running Virtual-T on Linux net books.But then we would be living in abstraction layers... too much like the Matrix for me.And net-books aren't TPL by the definition. The keyboards are too small and no off the shelf batteries. Steve Ranft Savage, MN From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 08:16:33 + Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer Actually, the computer typically referred to as "Tandy 2000", had this on it's badge: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/tandy_2000hd_label.jpg Tandy TRS -80 Model 2000 Personal Computer I'd stay away from '1000s when naming a new model T. I'd go for the 104, or something, or anything in the 100, as long as we keep the 100/102 formfactor. Or the Model T2. "teetoo" sounds fun. And before naming anything, first we have to have something. ;-) That said: is there a version of Virtual T for the Linux OS ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( @ @ ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- Be green, read from the screen! From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Steven Ranft Sent: donderdag 14 mei 2015 16:10 To: Club 100 Model T Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer Model 2000 ( of the Model T) You are correct, there is a Tandy 2000, but it's not a TRS-80 Model 2000, and not a TPL [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op Facebook DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
On Monday, May 18, 2015, Ken Pettit wrote: > Yeah, I've looked *many* times doing quite exhaustive searches just about > everywhere I could think of looking for a similarly sized / shaped LCD. > Nada, unless you want to order 10,000 of them. > > So that means we would have to be funded. Could be done. A kickstarter would both demonstrate market demand and fund the project at the same time. The question is whether we think it likely that there is a market for something like this sufficient to take on the responsibility of accepting money for it and starring development. What's the target market, what will be the cost to develop the whole product, what price would customers pay, etc. So, a business plan. -- John.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Yeah, I've looked *many* times doing quite exhaustive searches just about everywhere I could think of looking for a similarly sized / shaped LCD. Nada, unless you want to order 10,000 of them. For extended battery life, it would have to be FSTN or E-Ink I believe. Any TFT display will kill any battery in a matter of hours (vs. days) if used continuously. Ken On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:42 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: > U R right! > > OK, we need something with an Screen Aspect Ration of 3.75/1 (240/64) and > a pixel AR of 1/1. > > And then aim for a size of approx 200 mm, or 7.8 inch wide. Is that about > right ? > > Hmmm. Turns out that Marko is probably right about the screen. :-( > > Jan-80 @ work > Be green, read from the screen! > > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Ken > Pettit > Sent: maandag 18 mei 2015 10:32 > To: Model 100 Discussion > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > I'm pretty sure those 240x64 LCDs are only like 4-5" wide and about 1.5" > tall. I was looking into using some to replace a client's 4 line x 20 > character non-graphic display of approximately the same size. > > Ken > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:29 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < > jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: > I think re-building the Model T might turn out to be more expensive than > re-creating it with off-the-shelf components. > (but who am I? never having build anything myself) > > As for screen, I quote myself. > -- > Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. > Eg. from the page > http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html > ... take your pick! > The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html > -- > > And someone suggested a Happy Hacker keyboard, I just googled it, looks > nice, minimal, may be just what we need. > > Is the 80C85 still made ? > > Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > Jan-80 """"" > @ work ( @ @ ) > ------.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > > > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Marko > Peussa > Sent: vrijdag 15 mei 2015 19:20 > To: Model 100 Discussion > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > Has anyone looked the M100/102 from an IP (patent) viewpoint? Most of > those may have expired, if not all. > > Just wondering how much would a 1:1 re-creation cost today. A group of > Russians(?) reverse-engineered a Nintendo GBA, so anything is possible. > > The M100 keyboard and the display might be very difficult and expensive to > get manufactured today. > > [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg > ons op Facebook > > DISCLAIMER > > Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si > c'est nécessaire. > > Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et > réservé à l'attention de son destinataire. > Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et > d'en informer l'expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce > mail est dans ce cas interdite. > La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne > peuvent être garanties. > > Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het > nodig is. > > Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is > uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. > Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en > de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht > te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. > We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet > veilig en nauwkeurig is. > > > DISCLAIMER > > Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si > c'est nécessaire. > > Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et > réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. > Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et > d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce > mail est dans ce cas interdite. > La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne > peuvent être garanties. > > Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het > nodig is. > > Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is > uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. > Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en > de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht > te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. > We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet > veilig en nauwkeurig is. > > >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
U R right! OK, we need something with an Screen Aspect Ration of 3.75/1 (240/64) and a pixel AR of 1/1. And then aim for a size of approx 200 mm, or 7.8 inch wide. Is that about right ? Hmmm. Turns out that Marko is probably right about the screen. :-( Jan-80 @ work Be green, read from the screen! From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Ken Pettit Sent: maandag 18 mei 2015 10:32 To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer I'm pretty sure those 240x64 LCDs are only like 4-5" wide and about 1.5" tall. I was looking into using some to replace a client's 4 line x 20 character non-graphic display of approximately the same size. Ken On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:29 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN wrote: I think re-building the Model T might turn out to be more expensive than re-creating it with off-the-shelf components. (but who am I? never having build anything myself) As for screen, I quote myself. -- Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html -- And someone suggested a Happy Hacker keyboard, I just googled it, looks nice, minimal, may be just what we need. Is the 80C85 still made ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work ( @ @ ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Marko Peussa Sent: vrijdag 15 mei 2015 19:20 To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer Has anyone looked the M100/102 from an IP (patent) viewpoint? Most of those may have expired, if not all. Just wondering how much would a 1:1 re-creation cost today. A group of Russians(?) reverse-engineered a Nintendo GBA, so anything is possible. The M100 keyboard and the display might be very difficult and expensive to get manufactured today. [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op Facebook DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l'attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d'en informer l'expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is. DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
I'm pretty sure those 240x64 LCDs are only like 4-5" wide and about 1.5" tall. I was looking into using some to replace a client's 4 line x 20 character non-graphic display of approximately the same size. Ken On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:29 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: > I think re-building the Model T might turn out to be more expensive than > re-creating it with off-the-shelf components. > (but who am I? never having build anything myself) > > As for screen, I quote myself. > -- > Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. > Eg. from the page > http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html > ... take your pick! > The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html > -- > > And someone suggested a Happy Hacker keyboard, I just googled it, looks > nice, minimal, may be just what we need. > > Is the 80C85 still made ? > > Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > Jan-80 """"" > @ work( @ @ ) > --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > > > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Marko > Peussa > Sent: vrijdag 15 mei 2015 19:20 > To: Model 100 Discussion > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > Has anyone looked the M100/102 from an IP (patent) viewpoint? Most of > those may have expired, if not all. > > Just wondering how much would a 1:1 re-creation cost today. A group of > Russians(?) reverse-engineered a Nintendo GBA, so anything is possible. > > The M100 keyboard and the display might be very difficult and expensive to > get manufactured today. > > > [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg > ons op Facebook > > DISCLAIMER > > Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si > c'est nécessaire. > > Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et > réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. > Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et > d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce > mail est dans ce cas interdite. > La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne > peuvent être garanties. > > Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het > nodig is. > > Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is > uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. > Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en > de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht > te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. > We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet > veilig en nauwkeurig is. > > >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Yes, VirtualT runs on Linux. In fact, that what I use predominately since I really don't like booting Windows (for anything). :) Oh, and since the subject line is $9 Computer … I really don't understand how (or even that that can) they can build a Single Board Computer for $9, even if they are doing it all in China and with large quantities. I'm a bit skeptical that they will be able to actually ship to everyone without having to ask for more money. Ken On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:16 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: > Actually, the computer typically referred to as "Tandy 2000", had this on > it's badge: > http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/tandy_2000hd_label.jpg > > Tandy > TRS -80 > Model 2000 > Personal > Computer > > I'd stay away from '1000s when naming a new model T. > I'd go for the 104, or something, or anything in the 100, as long as we > keep the 100/102 formfactor. > > Or the Model T2. "teetoo" sounds fun. > > And before naming anything, first we have to have something. ;-) > > That said: is there a version of Virtual T for the Linux OS ? > > Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > Jan-80 """"" > @ work( @ @ ) > --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > Be green, read from the screen! > > > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Steven > Ranft > Sent: donderdag 14 mei 2015 16:10 > To: Club 100 Model T > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > Model 2000 ( of the Model T) > > You are correct, there is a Tandy 2000, but it's not a TRS-80 Model 2000, > and not a TPL > > [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg > ons op Facebook > > DISCLAIMER > > Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si > c'est nécessaire. > > Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et > réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. > Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et > d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce > mail est dans ce cas interdite. > La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne > peuvent être garanties. > > Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het > nodig is. > > Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is > uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. > Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en > de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht > te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. > We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet > veilig en nauwkeurig is. > > >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
I think re-building the Model T might turn out to be more expensive than re-creating it with off-the-shelf components. (but who am I? never having build anything myself) As for screen, I quote myself. -- Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html -- And someone suggested a Happy Hacker keyboard, I just googled it, looks nice, minimal, may be just what we need. Is the 80C85 still made ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( @ @ ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Marko Peussa Sent: vrijdag 15 mei 2015 19:20 To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer Has anyone looked the M100/102 from an IP (patent) viewpoint? Most of those may have expired, if not all. Just wondering how much would a 1:1 re-creation cost today. A group of Russians(?) reverse-engineered a Nintendo GBA, so anything is possible. The M100 keyboard and the display might be very difficult and expensive to get manufactured today. [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op FacebookDISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Actually, the computer typically referred to as "Tandy 2000", had this on it's badge: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/tandy_2000hd_label.jpg Tandy TRS -80 Model 2000 Personal Computer I'd stay away from '1000s when naming a new model T. I'd go for the 104, or something, or anything in the 100, as long as we keep the 100/102 formfactor. Or the Model T2. "teetoo" sounds fun. And before naming anything, first we have to have something. ;-) That said: is there a version of Virtual T for the Linux OS ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( @ @ ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- Be green, read from the screen! From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Steven Ranft Sent: donderdag 14 mei 2015 16:10 To: Club 100 Model T Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer Model 2000 ( of the Model T) You are correct, there is a Tandy 2000, but it's not a TRS-80 Model 2000, and not a TPL [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op FacebookDISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
You make a good point. Though I find I am usually going against the norm … I really can't stand Arduino for instance and in fact prefer to write my own soft processors on FPGAs (when I have the time). I wrote a Risc8 processor back in 1997 on an Altera 10K20 FPGA complete with an assembler and simulator. A couple of years ago I extended it to be a Risc16 processor capable of addressing a 2G address range and even updated the assembler. I had (maybe still have) plans to write a C compiler for it, but we'll see. These days if I were to find any spare time, I would prefer to spend it developing TDock vs playing around with C.H.I.P (for instance). It did cross my mind that maybe C.H.I.P. could be at the heard of TDock, but with the need to add a shield to get VGA or HDMI, it isn't as attractive (at least not to me). Ken On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:28 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Ken Pettit wrote: > > Just what I need, another ARM based SBC occupying space in a drawer > > alongside all the other development boards I have :) > > > > Ken > > > > I hear you, but... similar to the Raspberry Pi, the beauty of popular > gadgets like this (assuming CHIP too becomes popular) is developer > mindshare and the market built up around a single platform. > > When you have a problem it's nice to be able to be able to search > google and be able to find an answer rather than being "on your own." > > -- John. >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Ken Pettit wrote: > Just what I need, another ARM based SBC occupying space in a drawer > alongside all the other development boards I have :) > > Ken > I hear you, but... similar to the Raspberry Pi, the beauty of popular gadgets like this (assuming CHIP too becomes popular) is developer mindshare and the market built up around a single platform. When you have a problem it's nice to be able to be able to search google and be able to find an answer rather than being "on your own." -- John.
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On Fri, 15 May 2015 10:03:12 -0700, Ken Pettit wrote: Just what I need, another ARM based SBC occupying space in a drawer alongside all the other development boards I have :) +1 -- Regards, Daryl Tester Handcrafted Computers Pty. Ltd.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
On 5/15/15, Fred Whitaker wrote: > If you have no interest that's fine. When it is delivered it will be a > compete Linux Box, even though it will not have a case, ready to plug int a > power supply, monitor and keyboard. I see it as an excellent, cheap, > computer for logging onto my model 100. > > Fred W. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 15, 2015, at 1:03 PM, "Ken Pettit" wrote: > >> Just what I need, another ARM based SBC occupying space in a drawer >> alongside all the other development boards I have :) >> >> Ken >> >> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Frederick Whitaker >> wrote: >>> I ordered one, by becoming a supporter of the project, and I am thinking >>> of ordering another with a VGA adapter. If you want this to succeed you >>> need to support it. If the money isn't raised in time the project will >>> die. >>> >>> Fred W. >>> >>> >>> On 5/13/2015 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop wrote: >>>> I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: >>>> http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph >>>> wrote: >>>>> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power >>>>> consumption is considered. You may find it hard to believe but >>>>> achieving a computer for 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model >>>>>> T with current technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the >>>>>> heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >>>>>> Eg. from the page >>>>>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >>>>>> ... take your pick! >>>>>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >>>>>> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >>>>>> >>>>>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >>>>>> arrow-keys ? >>>>>> >>>>>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >>>>>> Jan-80 """"" >>>>>> @ work( = = ) >>>>>> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Hiraghm >>>>>> Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 >>>>>> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com >>>>>> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer >>>>>> >>>>>> ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the >>>>>> Raspberry PI. >>>>>> [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - >>>>>> Volg ons op Facebook >>>>>> DISCLAIMER >>>>>> >>>>>> Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si >>>>>> c'est nécessaire. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et >>>>>> réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. >>>>>> Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire >>>>>> et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation >>>>>> de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. >>>>>> La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages >>>>>> électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. >>>>>> >>>>>> Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het >>>>>> nodig is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is >>>>>> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. >>>>>> Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen >>>>>> en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit >>>>>> bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. >>>>>> We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet >>>>>> veilig en nauwkeurig is. >> >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
If you have no interest that's fine. When it is delivered it will be a compete Linux Box, even though it will not have a case, ready to plug int a power supply, monitor and keyboard. I see it as an excellent, cheap, computer for logging onto my model 100. Fred W. Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2015, at 1:03 PM, "Ken Pettit" wrote: > Just what I need, another ARM based SBC occupying space in a drawer alongside > all the other development boards I have :) > > Ken > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Frederick Whitaker > wrote: >> I ordered one, by becoming a supporter of the project, and I am thinking of >> ordering another with a VGA adapter. If you want this to succeed you need to >> support it. If the money isn't raised in time the project will die. >> >> Fred W. >> >> >> On 5/13/2015 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop wrote: >>> I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: >>> http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph >>> wrote: >>>> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power consumption >>>> is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a computer >>>> for 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN >>>> wrote: >>>>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T >>>>> with current technology. >>>>> >>>>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >>>>> >>>>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. >>>>> Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >>>>> >>>>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >>>>> Eg. from the page >>>>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >>>>> ... take your pick! >>>>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >>>>> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >>>>> >>>>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >>>>> arrow-keys ? >>>>> >>>>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >>>>> >>>>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >>>>> >>>>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >>>>> Jan-80 """"" >>>>> @ work( = = ) >>>>> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm >>>>> Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 >>>>> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com >>>>> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer >>>>> >>>>> ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry >>>>> PI. >>>>> [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg >>>>> ons op Facebook >>>>> DISCLAIMER >>>>> >>>>> Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si >>>>> c'est nécessaire. >>>>> >>>>> Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et >>>>> réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. >>>>> Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et >>>>> d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce >>>>> mail est dans ce cas interdite. >>>>> La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques >>>>> ne peuvent être garanties. >>>>> >>>>> Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het >>>>> nodig is. >>>>> >>>>> Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is >>>>> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. >>>>> Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en >>>>> de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit >>>>> bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. >>>>> We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet >>>>> veilig en nauwkeurig is. >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
No worries, Ken. I just think TDOCK is a GREAT idea, whenever it arrives. Best of luck and good health to you! Bob From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Ken Pettit Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 1:06 PM To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer Hi Bob, The status is … no progress. I've been swamped doing firmware, schematic updates, board layout changes and ASIC design the past couple of months. Too much work to do! :) Ken On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Bob Pigford wrote: As an interim step, I’d be happy with a TDOCK since small battery powered VGA displays are available, and 80 X 25 display would be awesome! Ken? Status? Bob From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Lee Kelley Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 4:25 PM To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer This is interesting stuff. I'll keep watching. But realize there was already a Model 2000. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Flow gmail wrote: How about a projection "screen" either directly onto the eyeball a la Google Glasses, or large on any available surface ? This would free up the entire surface for a keyboard and stylus pad. The "Model 1000&1" would be thinner and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar power/sponge "battery" recharge. Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and full face touchscreen. Let us know when you have it ready. Or, Gene Corrigan flowcharles...@gmail.com On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft wrote: I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of it's time Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 bit OS on the same platform. Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger audience. I don't know if LCD is the way to go. The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display that go for days, they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS graphics. I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display would be my choice. Killer keyboard is a must! It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 century. Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat pack like a cell phone. The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would protect the screen. WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in BIOS to turn them off when the unit is unplugged. Steve Ranft Savage, MN From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 + Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with current technology. 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the arrow-keys ? And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? Ah, I can dream, can't I ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( = = ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- -Original Message- From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: [M100] $9 Computer ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op Facebook DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce me
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Has anyone looked the M100/102 from an IP (patent) viewpoint? Most of those may have expired, if not all. Just wondering how much would a 1:1 re-creation cost today. A group of Russians(?) reverse-engineered a Nintendo GBA, so anything is possible. The M100 keyboard and the display might be very difficult and expensive to get manufactured today. > Steven Ranft kirjoitti 14.5.2015 kello 17.09: > > Model 2000 ( of the Model T) > > You are correct, there is a Tandy 2000, but it's not a TRS-80 Model 2000, and > not a TPL > > I refer to the TPL described by Steve Adolf on Bitchin 100: > > http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=True_Portable_Definition > > True Portable Definition > > The minimal definition for true portable laptop is: > Light-weight > General purpose > At least 15 hours battery life on a charge with normal use > Instant or near-instant ON/OFF > No "heat issues" > UI navigation is easy and efficient without a mouse > The ideal laptop: > Off-the-shelf batteries > Easy access to built-in programming language > No "heat" issues > Full-travel keyboard > > I Think those are the PRIMARY design parameters. > Adding a LithiumPolymer battery, a mouse pad are EXTRAs. > I believe that anything proposed by should be able to use off the shelf > batteries, for over 16 hours of normal use per set (Excluding WiFi, BlueTooth > and other power hogging functions) > It should boot to a MENU driven system that is easy to navigate with the > keyboard only. (Mouse would be an enhancement, not a requirement) > > ALMOST EVERYTHING that has conceptualized my men has been built EVENTUALLY! > > Perhaps we need to perfect the CONCEPT. If it is good enough, it WILL get > built... (eventually) > > One last thought. Perhaps CLUB 100s concept should not include a main board. > Maybe we design a chassis with all our other requirements, and leave a spot > for anybody to drop in a proto-type main board. > We would just provide a platform for others to fill. THAT would be marketable. > > AND we could design the default starter main board that is 100% TRS-80 Model > 100 compatible! > > Thanks, > Steve > > > Steve Ranft > > Savage, MN > > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 15:25:29 -0500 > From: l...@3footed.com > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > This is interesting stuff. I'll keep watching. But realize there was > already a Model 2000. > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Flow gmail wrote: > How about a projection "screen" either directly onto the eyeball a la Google > Glasses, or large on any available surface ? This would free up the entire > surface for a keyboard and stylus pad. The "Model 1000&1" would be thinner > and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar power/sponge > "battery" recharge. > > Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and full > face touchscreen. > > Let us know when you have it ready. > > Or, > > Gene Corrigan > flowcharles...@gmail.com > > On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft wrote: > > I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 > > I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of > it's time > Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. > > The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from > Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. > > Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 bit > OS on the same platform. > > Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger audience. > > I don't know if LCD is the way to go. > > The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display that > go for days, > they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. > > 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS > graphics. > > I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display would > be my choice. > > Killer keyboard is a must! > > It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 > century. > > Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat pack > like a cell phone. > > The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses > rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 > volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. > > With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would > protect the screen. > > WiFi and
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Hi Bob, The status is … no progress. I've been swamped doing firmware, schematic updates, board layout changes and ASIC design the past couple of months. Too much work to do! :) Ken On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Bob Pigford wrote: > As an interim step, I’d be happy with a TDOCK since small battery powered > VGA displays are available, and 80 X 25 display would be awesome! Ken? > Status? > > Bob > > > > *From:* M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] *On Behalf Of *Lee > Kelley > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2015 4:25 PM > *To:* Model 100 Discussion > > *Subject:* Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > > > This is interesting stuff. I'll keep watching. But realize there was > already a Model 2000. > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Flow gmail > wrote: > > How about a projection "screen" either directly onto the eyeball a la > Google Glasses, or large on any available surface ? This would free up the > entire surface for a keyboard and stylus pad. The "Model 1000&1" would be > thinner and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar > power/sponge "battery" recharge. > > > > Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and > full face touchscreen. > > > > Let us know when you have it ready. > > > > Or, > > Gene Corrigan > > flowcharles...@gmail.com > > > On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft wrote: > > I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 > > > > I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of > it's time > > Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. > > > > The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from > Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. > > > > Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 > bit OS on the same platform. > > > > Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger > audience. > > > > I don't know if LCD is the way to go. > > > > The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display > that go for days, > > they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. > > > > 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS > graphics. > > > > I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display > would be my choice. > > > > Killer keyboard is a must! > > > > It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 > century. > > > > Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat > pack like a cell phone. > > > > The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses > rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 > volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. > > > > With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would > protect the screen. > > > > WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in > BIOS to turn them off when the unit is unplugged. > > > > Steve Ranft > > > Savage, MN > > > > From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 + > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with > current technology. > > 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. > > Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. > Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? > > Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. > Eg. from the page > http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... > take your pick! > The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html > > All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the > arrow-keys ? > > And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? > > Ah, I can dream, can't I ? > > Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > Jan-80 """"" > @ work( = = ) > --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > > -Original Message- > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com > ] On Behalf Of Hiraghm > Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Subject: [M100] $9 Computer > > ZDnet had this article on th
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Just what I need, another ARM based SBC occupying space in a drawer alongside all the other development boards I have :) Ken On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Frederick Whitaker wrote: > I ordered one, by becoming a supporter of the project, and I am thinking > of ordering another with a VGA adapter. If you want this to succeed you > need to support it. If the money isn't raised in time the project will die. > > Fred W. > > > On 5/13/2015 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop wrote: > > I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: > > http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 > > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph > wrote: > >> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power >> consumption is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a >> computer for 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < >> jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: >> >>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model >>> T with current technology. >>> >>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >>> >>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the >>> heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >>> >>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >>> Eg. from the page >>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >>> ... take your pick! >>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >>> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >>> >>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >>> arrow-keys ? >>> >>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >>> >>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >>> >>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >>> Jan-80 """"" >>> @ work( = = ) >>> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of >>> Hiraghm >>> Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 >>> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com >>> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer >>> >>> ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry >>> PI. >>> [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg >>> ons op Facebook >>> DISCLAIMER >>> >>> Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si >>> c'est nécessaire. >>> >>> Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et >>> réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. >>> Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire >>> et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de >>> ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. >>> La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques >>> ne peuvent être garanties. >>> >>> Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het >>> nodig is. >>> >>> Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is >>> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. >>> Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen >>> en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit >>> bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. >>> We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet >>> veilig en nauwkeurig is. >>> >>> >>> >> > >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
They have raised (at this point) 1.3 million, with 21 days to go. The project shouldn't die due to lack of funds (although, I realize, sometimes that money doesn't go as far as they think it will). On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Frederick Whitaker wrote: > I ordered one, by becoming a supporter of the project, and I am thinking > of ordering another with a VGA adapter. If you want this to succeed you > need to support it. If the money isn't raised in time the project will die. > > Fred W. > > > On 5/13/2015 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop wrote: > > I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: > > http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 > > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph > wrote: > >> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power >> consumption is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a >> computer for 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < >> jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: >> >>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model >>> T with current technology. >>> >>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >>> >>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the >>> heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >>> >>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >>> Eg. from the page >>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >>> ... take your pick! >>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >>> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >>> >>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >>> arrow-keys ? >>> >>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >>> >>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >>> >>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >>> Jan-80 """"" >>> @ work( = = ) >>> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of >>> Hiraghm >>> Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 >>> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com >>> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer >>> >>> ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry >>> PI. >>> [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg >>> ons op Facebook >>> DISCLAIMER >>> >>> Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si >>> c'est nécessaire. >>> >>> Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et >>> réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. >>> Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire >>> et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de >>> ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. >>> La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques >>> ne peuvent être garanties. >>> >>> Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het >>> nodig is. >>> >>> Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is >>> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. >>> Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen >>> en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit >>> bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. >>> We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet >>> veilig en nauwkeurig is. >>> >>> >>> >> > >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
I ordered one, by becoming a supporter of the project, and I am thinking of ordering another with a VGA adapter. If you want this to succeed you need to support it. If the money isn't raised in time the project will die. Fred W. On 5/13/2015 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop wrote: I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph <mailto:twospru...@gmail.com>> wrote: nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power consumption is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a computer for 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN mailto:jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be>> wrote: I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with current technology. 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the arrow-keys ? And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? Ah, I can dream, can't I ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( = = ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- -Original Message- From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com <mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>] On Behalf Of Hiraghm Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com <mailto:m100@lists.bitchin100.com> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op Facebook DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Model 2000 ( of the Model T) You are correct, there is a Tandy 2000, but it's not a TRS-80 Model 2000, and not a TPL I refer to the TPL described by Steve Adolf on Bitchin 100: http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=True_Portable_Definition True Portable Definition The minimal definition for true portable laptop is:Light-weightGeneral purposeAt least 15 hours battery life on a charge with normal useInstant or near-instant ON/OFFNo "heat issues"UI navigation is easy and efficient without a mouseThe ideal laptop:Off-the-shelf batteriesEasy access to built-in programming languageNo "heat" issuesFull-travel keyboard I Think those are the PRIMARY design parameters.Adding a LithiumPolymer battery, a mouse pad are EXTRAs.I believe that anything proposed by should be able to use off the shelf batteries, for over 16 hours of normal use per set (Excluding WiFi, BlueTooth and other power hogging functions)It should boot to a MENU driven system that is easy to navigate with the keyboard only. (Mouse would be an enhancement, not a requirement) ALMOST EVERYTHING that has conceptualized my men has been built EVENTUALLY! Perhaps we need to perfect the CONCEPT. If it is good enough, it WILL get built... (eventually) One last thought. Perhaps CLUB 100s concept should not include a main board.Maybe we design a chassis with all our other requirements, and leave a spot for anybody to drop in a proto-type main board. We would just provide a platform for others to fill. THAT would be marketable. AND we could design the default starter main board that is 100% TRS-80 Model 100 compatible! Thanks,Steve Steve Ranft Savage, MN Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 15:25:29 -0500 From: l...@3footed.com To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer This is interesting stuff. I'll keep watching. But realize there was already a Model 2000. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Flow gmail wrote: How about a projection "screen" either directly onto the eyeball a la Google Glasses, or large on any available surface ? This would free up the entire surface for a keyboard and stylus pad. The "Model 1000&1" would be thinner and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar power/sponge "battery" recharge. Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and full face touchscreen. Let us know when you have it ready. Or, Gene corriganflowcharles...@gmail.com On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft wrote: I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of it's time Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 bit OS on the same platform. Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger audience. I don't know if LCD is the way to go. The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display that go for days,they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS graphics. I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display would be my choice. Killer keyboard is a must! It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 century. Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat pack like a cell phone. The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would protect the screen. WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in BIOS to turn them off when the unit is unplugged. Steve Ranft Savage, MN From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 + Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with current technology. 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the arrow-keys ? And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? Ah,
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
As an interim step, I’d be happy with a TDOCK since small battery powered VGA displays are available, and 80 X 25 display would be awesome! Ken? Status? Bob From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Lee Kelley Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 4:25 PM To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer This is interesting stuff. I'll keep watching. But realize there was already a Model 2000. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Flow gmail wrote: How about a projection "screen" either directly onto the eyeball a la Google Glasses, or large on any available surface ? This would free up the entire surface for a keyboard and stylus pad. The "Model 1000&1" would be thinner and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar power/sponge "battery" recharge. Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and full face touchscreen. Let us know when you have it ready. Or, Gene Corrigan flowcharles...@gmail.com On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft wrote: I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of it's time Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 bit OS on the same platform. Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger audience. I don't know if LCD is the way to go. The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display that go for days, they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS graphics. I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display would be my choice. Killer keyboard is a must! It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 century. Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat pack like a cell phone. The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would protect the screen. WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in BIOS to turn them off when the unit is unplugged. Steve Ranft Savage, MN From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 + Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with current technology. 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the arrow-keys ? And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? Ah, I can dream, can't I ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( = = ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- -Original Message- From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: [M100] $9 Computer ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op Facebook DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toeges
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This is interesting stuff. I'll keep watching. But realize there was already a Model 2000. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Flow gmail wrote: > How about a projection "screen" either directly onto the eyeball a la > Google Glasses, or large on any available surface ? This would free up the > entire surface for a keyboard and stylus pad. The "Model 1000&1" would be > thinner and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar > power/sponge "battery" recharge. > > Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and > full face touchscreen. > > Let us know when you have it ready. > > Or, > > Gene Corrigan > flowcharles...@gmail.com > > On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft wrote: > > I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 > > I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of > it's time > Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. > > The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from > Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. > > Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 > bit OS on the same platform. > > Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger > audience. > > I don't know if LCD is the way to go. > > The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display > that go for days, > they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. > > 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS > graphics. > > I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display > would be my choice. > > Killer keyboard is a must! > > It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 > century. > > Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat > pack like a cell phone. > > The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses > rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 > volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. > > With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would > protect the screen. > > WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in > BIOS to turn them off when the unit is unplugged. > > > Steve Ranft > > Savage, MN > > > From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 + > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with > current technology. > > 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. > > Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. > Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? > > Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. > Eg. from the page > http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... > take your pick! > The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html > > All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the > arrow-keys ? > > And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? > > Ah, I can dream, can't I ? > > Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > Jan-80 """"" > @ work( = = ) > --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > > -Original Message- > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com > ] On Behalf Of Hiraghm > Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Subject: [M100] $9 Computer > > ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. > [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons > op Facebook > > > DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes > que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, > est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous > n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en > informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail > est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de > messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk > deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht > (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor > de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht > het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet > toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We > kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en > nauwkeurig is. > > -- *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole family"* Arther P. Jacobs
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
How about a projection "screen" either directly onto the eyeball a la Google Glasses, or large on any available surface ? This would free up the entire surface for a keyboard and stylus pad. The "Model 1000&1" would be thinner and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar power/sponge "battery" recharge. Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and full face touchscreen. Let us know when you have it ready. Or, Gene Corrigan flowcharles...@gmail.com > On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft wrote: > > I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 > > I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of > it's time > Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. > > The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from > Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. > > Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 bit > OS on the same platform. > > Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger audience. > > I don't know if LCD is the way to go. > > The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display that > go for days, > they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. > > 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS > graphics. > > I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display would > be my choice. > > Killer keyboard is a must! > > It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 > century. > > Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat pack > like a cell phone. > > The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses > rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 > volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. > > With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would > protect the screen. > > WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in BIOS > to turn them off when the unit is unplugged. > > > Steve Ranft > > Savage, MN > > > From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 + > Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer > > I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with > current technology. > > 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. > > Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. > Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? > > Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. > Eg. from the page > http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... > take your pick! > The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html > > All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the > arrow-keys ? > > And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? > > Ah, I can dream, can't I ? > > Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > Jan-80 """"" > @ work( = = ) > --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > > -Original Message- > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm > Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Subject: [M100] $9 Computer > > ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. > [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons > op Facebook > > DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que > si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est > confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas > le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer > l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce > cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages > électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze > pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht > (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de > geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het > te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan > dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet > garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
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I've been keeping up with the Kickstarter for this and even threw some money at it :) I can think of a few ways I might use something like this. Over in the Color Computer world, I've written a virtual cassette drive (I call it the Virtual-CCR). Using a special cable that routes the Audio Out through the Remote relay, the software uses the device events that are surfaced by the OS (Linux in this case) to detect when the Color Computer's Remote relay closes. Then based on the presence/absence of a signal from the Audio In, it determines whether you've issued a CSAVE or CLOAD in BASIC. The virtual "cassettes" are just WAV files. Not quite ready for prime-time, but I hope to refine it and make it perfect soon. Anyway, this runs on a regular computer, but it would be so cool to instead use something like this tiny $9 contraption. Throw a short cable and 5 pin DIN connector on it and voila! > Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 11:29:28 -0500 > From: hira...@hotmail.com > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Subject: [M100] $9 Computer > > ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. > I couldn't help but wonder how it could be interfaced to the M100 to > enhance the M100s capabilities. Even if the M10x/200 ended up only being > a terminal into the device. I picture a small (3d printed?) plastic box > the width of the M10x either along the back side of the bottom, or just > along the back side, plugged into the M10x's ports, (especially if along > the back side), and possibly with a slide-out/flip-up (or > slide-out-then-flip-up?) 4.5" screen. > > Control would still be through the M10x, but you'd have access to the > capabilities of the little computer. > > (this does make me once again wish I could find a source for a modern > screen with dimensions close to the M10x's. ) >
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I like it: Let's design a Model 2000 I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of it's time Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable. The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network. Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64 bit OS on the same platform. Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger audience. I don't know if LCD is the way to go. The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display that go for days,they also are very readable in all lighting conditions. 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS graphics. I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display would be my choice. Killer keyboard is a must! It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21 century. Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat pack like a cell phone. The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5 volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work. With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would protect the screen. WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in BIOS to turn them off when the unit is unplugged. Steve Ranft Savage, MN From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with current technology. 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the arrow-keys ? And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? Ah, I can dream, can't I ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( = = ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- -Original Message- From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: [M100] $9 Computer ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op Facebook DISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
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An efficient sleep/hibernate mode with instant wake would be very possible with an embedded ARM/micro. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Shaun M. Wheeler wrote: > Then I'd settle for an efficient sleep/hibernate mode. :) > > On May 13, 2015 9:06 AM, "Fred Whitaker" wrote: >> >> Instant on would mean ROM based startup like the model 100 with a similar >> operating system. Although some of the new small laptops have very short >> startup times, using solid state drives. >> >> Fred Whitaker >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 13, 2015, at 9:47 AM, "Shaun M. Wheeler" >> wrote: >> >> The only "must" for me would be instant-on. Wouldn't want to sit through >> a minute of boot screens. >> >> On May 13, 2015 8:42 AM, "Scott Lawrence" wrote: >>> >>> Why don't we approach this from a different angle. What features are >>> important to you with respect to a modern Model T-alike? >>> >>> From what I can guess, the list would be something like this: (please, >>> correct and adjust this...) >>> >>> - lightweight, portable >>> - Very low power >>> - must be able to run multiple days of common use on a charge >>> - powered by standard batteries for field-replacement >>> - Full size keyboard - doesn't need numpad or cursor keys/penalty box >>> - Modern connection interfaces >>> - USB for firmware updates, internal storage maintenance >>> - SD Card for removable storage >>> - reasonably durable - all ports have caps/covers, SD card is behind a >>> panel, not sticking out, etc. >>> - RS232 interface (for backwards compatibility) >>> - Multiline, low power display >>> - model T should be a minimum.. 8x40 >>> - monochrome OK >>> - Builtin Applications, expandable >>> - Text Editor >>> - File Manager >>> - Scripting/Programming language >>> - Terminal Program >>> >>> And things that might be nice to have: >>> - Video output (composite/hdmi/vga/whatever) >>> - Spreadsheet application? >>> - Word processor >>> - Printer support >>> - Wifi support (ssh/telnet/simple web browser) >>> - bluetooth support (serial connection, file sharing?) >>> - built-in carry handle >>> >>> Anyway, to *me*, If I were to implement this from here, what this would >>> mean is: >>> - 3D printed or lucite/plexiglass based case with integrated carry handle >>> - AA or LiIon battery with external charger and replaceable battery packs >>> - ARM based CPU, underclocked >>> - eInk monochrome display >>> - realtime clock >>> - BASIC or LUA based programming/scripting support >>> - Happy Hacker-esque keyboard (google it) >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop >>> wrote: >>> > I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: >>> > >>> > http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power >>> >> consumption >>> >> is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a >>> >> computer for >>> >> 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the >>> >>> Model T >>> >>> with current technology. >>> >>> >>> >>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the >>> >>> heart. >>> >>> Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >>> >>> >>> >>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >>> >>> Eg. from the page >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >>> >>>
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Then I'd settle for an efficient sleep/hibernate mode. :) On May 13, 2015 9:06 AM, "Fred Whitaker" wrote: > Instant on would mean ROM based startup like the model 100 with a similar > operating system. Although some of the new small laptops have very short > startup times, using solid state drives. > > Fred Whitaker > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 13, 2015, at 9:47 AM, "Shaun M. Wheeler" > wrote: > > The only "must" for me would be instant-on. Wouldn't want to sit through > a minute of boot screens. > On May 13, 2015 8:42 AM, "Scott Lawrence" wrote: > >> Why don't we approach this from a different angle. What features are >> important to you with respect to a modern Model T-alike? >> >> From what I can guess, the list would be something like this: (please, >> correct and adjust this...) >> >> - lightweight, portable >> - Very low power >> - must be able to run multiple days of common use on a charge >> - powered by standard batteries for field-replacement >> - Full size keyboard - doesn't need numpad or cursor keys/penalty box >> - Modern connection interfaces >> - USB for firmware updates, internal storage maintenance >> - SD Card for removable storage >> - reasonably durable - all ports have caps/covers, SD card is behind a >> panel, not sticking out, etc. >> - RS232 interface (for backwards compatibility) >> - Multiline, low power display >> - model T should be a minimum.. 8x40 >> - monochrome OK >> - Builtin Applications, expandable >> - Text Editor >> - File Manager >> - Scripting/Programming language >> - Terminal Program >> >> And things that might be nice to have: >> - Video output (composite/hdmi/vga/whatever) >> - Spreadsheet application? >> - Word processor >> - Printer support >> - Wifi support (ssh/telnet/simple web browser) >> - bluetooth support (serial connection, file sharing?) >> - built-in carry handle >> >> Anyway, to *me*, If I were to implement this from here, what this would >> mean is: >> - 3D printed or lucite/plexiglass based case with integrated carry handle >> - AA or LiIon battery with external charger and replaceable battery packs >> - ARM based CPU, underclocked >> - eInk monochrome display >> - realtime clock >> - BASIC or LUA based programming/scripting support >> - Happy Hacker-esque keyboard (google it) >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop >> wrote: >> > I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: >> > >> http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power >> consumption >> >> is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a >> computer for >> >> 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the >> Model T >> >>> with current technology. >> >>> >> >>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >> >>> >> >>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the >> heart. >> >>> Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >> >>> >> >>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >> >>> Eg. from the page >> >>> >> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >> ... >> >>> take your pick! >> >>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >> >>> >> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >> >>> >> >>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >> >>> arrow-keys ? >> >>> >> >>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >> >>> >> >>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >> >>> >> >>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >> >>> Jan-80
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Instant on would mean ROM based startup like the model 100 with a similar operating system. Although some of the new small laptops have very short startup times, using solid state drives. Fred Whitaker Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2015, at 9:47 AM, "Shaun M. Wheeler" wrote: > The only "must" for me would be instant-on. Wouldn't want to sit through a > minute of boot screens. > On May 13, 2015 8:42 AM, "Scott Lawrence" wrote: >> Why don't we approach this from a different angle. What features are >> important to you with respect to a modern Model T-alike? >> >> From what I can guess, the list would be something like this: (please, >> correct and adjust this...) >> >> - lightweight, portable >> - Very low power >> - must be able to run multiple days of common use on a charge >> - powered by standard batteries for field-replacement >> - Full size keyboard - doesn't need numpad or cursor keys/penalty box >> - Modern connection interfaces >> - USB for firmware updates, internal storage maintenance >> - SD Card for removable storage >> - reasonably durable - all ports have caps/covers, SD card is behind a >> panel, not sticking out, etc. >> - RS232 interface (for backwards compatibility) >> - Multiline, low power display >> - model T should be a minimum.. 8x40 >> - monochrome OK >> - Builtin Applications, expandable >> - Text Editor >> - File Manager >> - Scripting/Programming language >> - Terminal Program >> >> And things that might be nice to have: >> - Video output (composite/hdmi/vga/whatever) >> - Spreadsheet application? >> - Word processor >> - Printer support >> - Wifi support (ssh/telnet/simple web browser) >> - bluetooth support (serial connection, file sharing?) >> - built-in carry handle >> >> Anyway, to *me*, If I were to implement this from here, what this would mean >> is: >> - 3D printed or lucite/plexiglass based case with integrated carry handle >> - AA or LiIon battery with external charger and replaceable battery packs >> - ARM based CPU, underclocked >> - eInk monochrome display >> - realtime clock >> - BASIC or LUA based programming/scripting support >> - Happy Hacker-esque keyboard (google it) >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop >> wrote: >> > I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: >> > http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power consumption >> >> is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a computer >> >> for >> >> 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T >> >>> with current technology. >> >>> >> >>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >> >>> >> >>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. >> >>> Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >> >>> >> >>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >> >>> Eg. from the page >> >>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >> >>> ... >> >>> take your pick! >> >>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >> >>> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >> >>> >> >>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >> >>> arrow-keys ? >> >>> >> >>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >> >>> >> >>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >> >>> >> >>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >> >>> Jan-80 """"" >> >>> @ work( = = ) >> >>> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- >> >>> >> >>> -Original Messa
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
The only "must" for me would be instant-on. Wouldn't want to sit through a minute of boot screens. On May 13, 2015 8:42 AM, "Scott Lawrence" wrote: > Why don't we approach this from a different angle. What features are > important to you with respect to a modern Model T-alike? > > From what I can guess, the list would be something like this: (please, > correct and adjust this...) > > - lightweight, portable > - Very low power > - must be able to run multiple days of common use on a charge > - powered by standard batteries for field-replacement > - Full size keyboard - doesn't need numpad or cursor keys/penalty box > - Modern connection interfaces > - USB for firmware updates, internal storage maintenance > - SD Card for removable storage > - reasonably durable - all ports have caps/covers, SD card is behind a > panel, not sticking out, etc. > - RS232 interface (for backwards compatibility) > - Multiline, low power display > - model T should be a minimum.. 8x40 > - monochrome OK > - Builtin Applications, expandable > - Text Editor > - File Manager > - Scripting/Programming language > - Terminal Program > > And things that might be nice to have: > - Video output (composite/hdmi/vga/whatever) > - Spreadsheet application? > - Word processor > - Printer support > - Wifi support (ssh/telnet/simple web browser) > - bluetooth support (serial connection, file sharing?) > - built-in carry handle > > Anyway, to *me*, If I were to implement this from here, what this would > mean is: > - 3D printed or lucite/plexiglass based case with integrated carry handle > - AA or LiIon battery with external charger and replaceable battery packs > - ARM based CPU, underclocked > - eInk monochrome display > - realtime clock > - BASIC or LUA based programming/scripting support > - Happy Hacker-esque keyboard (google it) > > Thoughts? > > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop > wrote: > > I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: > > > http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph > > wrote: > >> > >> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power > consumption > >> is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a > computer for > >> 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. > >> > >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model > T > >>> with current technology. > >>> > >>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. > >>> > >>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the > heart. > >>> Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? > >>> > >>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. > >>> Eg. from the page > >>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html > ... > >>> take your pick! > >>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) > >>> > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html > >>> > >>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the > >>> arrow-keys ? > >>> > >>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? > >>> > >>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? > >>> > >>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > >>> Jan-80 """"" > >>> @ work( = = ) > >>> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of > >>> Hiraghm > >>> Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 > >>> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > >>> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer > >>> > >>> ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the > Raspberry > >>> PI. > >>> [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - > Volg > >>> ons op Facebook > >>> DISCLAIMER > >>> > >>> Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si > >>> c&
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
Why don't we approach this from a different angle. What features are important to you with respect to a modern Model T-alike? >From what I can guess, the list would be something like this: (please, correct and adjust this...) - lightweight, portable - Very low power - must be able to run multiple days of common use on a charge - powered by standard batteries for field-replacement - Full size keyboard - doesn't need numpad or cursor keys/penalty box - Modern connection interfaces - USB for firmware updates, internal storage maintenance - SD Card for removable storage - reasonably durable - all ports have caps/covers, SD card is behind a panel, not sticking out, etc. - RS232 interface (for backwards compatibility) - Multiline, low power display - model T should be a minimum.. 8x40 - monochrome OK - Builtin Applications, expandable - Text Editor - File Manager - Scripting/Programming language - Terminal Program And things that might be nice to have: - Video output (composite/hdmi/vga/whatever) - Spreadsheet application? - Word processor - Printer support - Wifi support (ssh/telnet/simple web browser) - bluetooth support (serial connection, file sharing?) - built-in carry handle Anyway, to *me*, If I were to implement this from here, what this would mean is: - 3D printed or lucite/plexiglass based case with integrated carry handle - AA or LiIon battery with external charger and replaceable battery packs - ARM based CPU, underclocked - eInk monochrome display - realtime clock - BASIC or LUA based programming/scripting support - Happy Hacker-esque keyboard (google it) Thoughts? On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Clinton Reddekop wrote: > I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: > http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 > > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph > wrote: >> >> nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power consumption >> is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a computer for >> 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T >>> with current technology. >>> >>> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >>> >>> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. >>> Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >>> >>> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >>> Eg. from the page >>> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... >>> take your pick! >>> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >>> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >>> >>> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >>> arrow-keys ? >>> >>> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >>> >>> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >>> >>> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >>> Jan-80 """"" >>> @ work( = = ) >>> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of >>> Hiraghm >>> Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 >>> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com >>> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer >>> >>> ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry >>> PI. >>> [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg >>> ons op Facebook >>> DISCLAIMER >>> >>> Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si >>> c'est nécessaire. >>> >>> Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et >>> réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. >>> Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et >>> d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce >>> mail est dans ce cas interdite. >>> La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques >>> ne peuvent être garanties. >>> >>> Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het >>> nodig is. >>> >>> Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is >>> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. >>> Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en >>> de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht >>> te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. >>> We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet >>> veilig en nauwkeurig is. >>> >>> >> > -- Scott Lawrence yor...@gmail.com
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
I've been wondering if this would be a good fit: http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/microcontrollers_16-bit_32-bit/msp/low_power_performance/msp432p4x/overview.page?DCMP=PPC_Google_TI&k_clickid=ea87c348-f1a4-4259-943d-911d70b39063 On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power consumption > is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a computer > for 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < > jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: > >> I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T >> with current technology. >> >> 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. >> >> Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. >> Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? >> >> Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. >> Eg. from the page >> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html >> ... take your pick! >> The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) >> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html >> >> All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the >> arrow-keys ? >> >> And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? >> >> Ah, I can dream, can't I ? >> >> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus >> Jan-80 """"" >> @ work( = = ) >> ------.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of >> Hiraghm >> Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 >> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com >> Subject: [M100] $9 Computer >> >> ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry >> PI. >> [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg >> ons op Facebook >> DISCLAIMER >> >> Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si >> c'est nécessaire. >> >> Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et >> réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. >> Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et >> d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce >> mail est dans ce cas interdite. >> La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques >> ne peuvent être garanties. >> >> Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het >> nodig is. >> >> Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is >> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. >> Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en >> de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht >> te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. >> We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet >> veilig en nauwkeurig is. >> >> >> >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
nice dream indeed, but for me it always falls short when power consumption is considered. You may find it hard to believe but achieving a computer for 50 mA is pretty hard in today's technology. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:11 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN < jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote: > I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T > with current technology. > > 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. > > Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. > Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? > > Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. > Eg. from the page > http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html > ... take your pick! > The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) > http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html > > All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the > arrow-keys ? > > And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? > > Ah, I can dream, can't I ? > > Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus > Jan-80 """"" > @ work( = = ) > --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- > > -Original Message- > From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm > Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 > To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com > Subject: [M100] $9 Computer > > ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry > PI. > [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg > ons op Facebook > DISCLAIMER > > Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si > c'est nécessaire. > > Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et > réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. > Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et > d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce > mail est dans ce cas interdite. > La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne > peuvent être garanties. > > Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het > nodig is. > > Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is > uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. > Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en > de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht > te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. > We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet > veilig en nauwkeurig is. > > >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with current technology. 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case. Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet? Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made. Eg. from the page http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... take your pick! The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the arrow-keys ? And money, of course... Crowdfunding ? Ah, I can dream, can't I ? Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus Jan-80 """"" @ work( = = ) --.ooo--(_)--ooo.--- -Original Message- From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: [M100] $9 Computer ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. [http://www.vivaqua.be/facebook.png] Rejoignez-nous sur Facebook - Volg ons op FacebookDISCLAIMER Pensez à l'environnement, n'imprimez cette page et ses annexes que si c'est nécessaire. Ce message électronique, y compris ses annexes, est confidentiel et réservé à l’attention de son destinataire. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire et d’en informer l’expéditeur. Toute divulgation, copie ou utilisation de ce mail est dans ce cas interdite. La sécurité et l'exactitude des transmissions de messages électroniques ne peuvent être garanties. Denk aan het milieu; druk deze pagina en de bijlagen alleen af als het nodig is. Dit e-mailbericht (inclusief zijn bijlagen) is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht het te wissen en de afzender te informeren. Het is in dat geval niet toegestaan dit bericht te verspreiden, te kopiëren of te gebruiken. We kunnen niet garanderen dat de gegevensoverdracht via het internet veilig en nauwkeurig is.
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
I backed the kickstarter a few days ago. I'll experiment when the device comes in. Built in bluetooth means that, with a working BlueM, the device wouldn't ever need to touch the m100. You could throw some batteries at it, and keep the chip in your pocket. The hp-LX guys have been ogling this as a potential replacement for their beloved. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:33 PM Shaun M. Wheeler wrote: > I caught that on Google+ the other day. It'd be a cute toy to play with. > On May 12, 2015 11:30 AM, "Hiraghm" wrote: > >> I suppose it would help if I included a link to the article: >> >> http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-9-dollar-computer-what-do-you-get/?tag=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61 >> >
Re: [M100] $9 Computer
I caught that on Google+ the other day. It'd be a cute toy to play with. On May 12, 2015 11:30 AM, "Hiraghm" wrote: > I suppose it would help if I included a link to the article: > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-9-dollar-computer-what-do-you-get/?tag=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61 >
[M100] $9 Computer
I suppose it would help if I included a link to the article: http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-9-dollar-computer-what-do-you-get/?tag=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61
[M100] $9 Computer
ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI. I couldn't help but wonder how it could be interfaced to the M100 to enhance the M100s capabilities. Even if the M10x/200 ended up only being a terminal into the device. I picture a small (3d printed?) plastic box the width of the M10x either along the back side of the bottom, or just along the back side, plugged into the M10x's ports, (especially if along the back side), and possibly with a slide-out/flip-up (or slide-out-then-flip-up?) 4.5" screen. Control would still be through the M10x, but you'd have access to the capabilities of the little computer. (this does make me once again wish I could find a source for a modern screen with dimensions close to the M10x's. )
