RE: Profiles on iOS
Hi Gordon I've been doing this exact thing for setup of iPads at work. Although I'm not restricting them, both apple configurator and the iphone configuration utility will both do what you want. The apple configurator is used to setup and maintain a group of IOS devices. I found it to be too restricted for what I wanted to do. E.g to get it to pre-install apps, the app either needs to be free, or you need to be enrolled in the apple volume license program, which uunfortunately for me isn't available in Australia. This meant that I wasn't able to use this to force apps on to our devices. I basically just used the utility to generate the xml file .mobileconfig for setting up the profiles for our devices. Email, restrictions ect. The iPhone config utility is basically the part of apple configurator that handles the creating of profiles. Let me know if you have any specific questions. Regards Nick -Original Message- From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012 2:42 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Profiles on iOS Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
Hi Donal Thanks, got this now. It looks like there are deficiencies in terms of what you can actually do with it. But it should serve the purpose for what I will need. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:40, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: This might be what you're looking for? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?
Hi, Nope, you can update to Mountain Lion just fine. The drivers and so-forth are completely separate, so you shouldn't encounter any issues. I can't think of any, anyway. It'll still boot into Windows as expected, and you can still set startup disks, etc. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good morning, all! From everything I've heard, today is the day that Mountain Lion is going to be released. The problem is, I can't decide if I am going to buy it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up my current settings. There are still a few things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able to get that working as expected under Lion. Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite excited about this update, so I hope I can get it. Missy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?
you could always re download lion its listed as a purches in your apple id acount so i guess you could easkly redownload it that way if worse comes to worse but i am sure it won't On 25/07/2012, at 9:28 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Thanks! In that case, I'll probably try to get it as soon as it comes out. I wish I had a spare drive for backing up Lion, but since that's not in the budget, I'll just assume that everything will go smoothly. It worked out well enough with Lion last year, although I'm glad I had a drive for backing up SL. I don't feel that same need to have a backup this year. I guess my logic is that if ML ends up being too terrible, I've still got SL to fall back on; not too much I'd miss about Lion specifically. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:23 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it? Hi, Nope, you can update to Mountain Lion just fine. The drivers and so-forth are completely separate, so you shouldn't encounter any issues. I can't think of any, anyway. It'll still boot into Windows as expected, and you can still set startup disks, etc. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good morning, all! From everything I've heard, today is the day that Mountain Lion is going to be released. The problem is, I can't decide if I am going to buy it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up my current settings. There are still a few things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able to get that working as expected under Lion. Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite excited about this update, so I hope I can get it. Missy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/.
mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?mt=12 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mac and daisy?
There are a couple of players currently that I know of, one is free and one isn't. Obviously you gets what you pays for, and personally I find Olearia a bit restrictive in as much as it doesn't support libraries of books, and there are quite a few other things it won't do. But it's free and you can find it here: http://code.google.com/p/olearia/ The other one is called ReadHear and is available from http://www.gh-accessibility.com/software/readhear-mac-instant-download It's a bit on the pricy side, and hasn't been updated in a million years. That said, it does work, and very well. The one area they don't cover is DAISY creation. That can't really be done on OS X unless you're prepared to accept a half-baked solution. There is an OpenOffice plugin but I personally found it to be more trouble than it's worth. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 22:20, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, is there a way that mac can play daisy books, like from BARD? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New Facility Available To Members
Hi We've answered this several times. The direct URL is: https://files.mac-access.net?login=mac-access:mac-access Timothy is quite correct about the user ID and password. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 01:36, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I believe both the user name and password are mac-access. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
i can't get it to donwload it says its temperally not avalible On 25/07/2012, at 11:35 PM, william lomas wrote: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?mt=12 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
everyone probably trying to get it at same time. my quesiton is though i want to wipe whole mac and start again if nothing else to speed things up in general on this imac! i use itunes match so do I need to backup the whole itunes library if so, how? do i just backup the whole home folder? On 25 Jul 2012, at 14:51, krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com wrote: i can't get it to donwload it says its temperally not avalible On 25/07/2012, at 11:35 PM, william lomas wrote: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?mt=12 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?
Your original will be safe but if I were you I'd definitely backup anything important. If you need an offsite place we could provide you with a private backup folder for your important files in a secure and safe environment. This is something we've been thinking about offering free of charge to list members, just to help them get upgraded safely. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 12:28, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! In that case, I'll probably try to get it as soon as it comes out. I wish I had a spare drive for backing up Lion, but since that's not in the budget, I'll just assume that everything will go smoothly. It worked out well enough with Lion last year, although I'm glad I had a drive for backing up SL. I don't feel that same need to have a backup this year. I guess my logic is that if ML ends up being too terrible, I've still got SL to fall back on; not too much I'd miss about Lion specifically. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
Yes, now it is safe to start talking about the new operating system. On 25 Jul 2012, at 14:35, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?mt=12 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
Personally I wouldn't rush to update. It's grand, but nothing to be getting wildly excited about. Oh and if you thought most of those really annoying bugs had gone away, then think again; sadly. On 25 Jul 2012, at 14:51, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Yes, now it is safe to start talking about the new operating system. On 25 Jul 2012, at 14:35, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?mt=12 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?
Hi, Just for those who have a qualified Mac for the up-to-date program, you won't be able to complete the form. Read more here: https://uptodate.apple.com/UtdPrepareAction?program=Mountain%20Lionlocale=en_us It appears that the page uses a widget which does not work with VoiceOver, probably using a canvas element or another visual element to set the date of purchase. This is an epic fail, and reminds me of how horrible Apple sometimes is with ensuring their sites work with VoiceOver, and comes somewhat close to the MobileMe/iCloud experiences. Just a word of warning. If you have anyone sighted nearby, they can probably help. Using VoiceOver I haven't been able to do it, but I can do it without VoiceOver just fine because it's a widget. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Your original will be safe but if I were you I'd definitely backup anything important. If you need an offsite place we could provide you with a private backup folder for your important files in a secure and safe environment. This is something we've been thinking about offering free of charge to list members, just to help them get upgraded safely. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 12:28, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! In that case, I'll probably try to get it as soon as it comes out. I wish I had a spare drive for backing up Lion, but since that's not in the budget, I'll just assume that everything will go smoothly. It worked out well enough with Lion last year, although I'm glad I had a drive for backing up SL. I don't feel that same need to have a backup this year. I guess my logic is that if ML ends up being too terrible, I've still got SL to fall back on; not too much I'd miss about Lion specifically. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
i tried it with a developer account and can agree here most of the voice pitch bugs etc. still exist nothing really wild for VO users safari is better though On 25 Jul 2012, at 14:51, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Yes, now it is safe to start talking about the new operating system. On 25 Jul 2012, at 14:35, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?mt=12 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
There are only 7 new functions in VoiceOver, but the main thing you might find interesting is the totally redesigned Drag and drop functionality. It's a lot better now than it was under Lion. I've been restraining myself with difficulty for weeks on this one. :) Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 14:54, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Personally I wouldn't rush to update. It's grand, but nothing to be getting wildly excited about. Oh and if you thought most of those really annoying bugs had gone away, then think again; sadly. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
Hi Kristal, if you live in Canada, It's not in the store yet. I can't download it either. - Original Message - From: krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:51 AM Subject: Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing! i can't get it to donwload it says its temperally not avalible On 25/07/2012, at 11:35 PM, william lomas wrote: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/os-x-mountain-lion/id537386512?mt=12 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7328 (20120725) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Mountain Lion: Mail Bug
Hi all I've already bugged this with Apple. But I wanted to tell you all now so that you are aware. There's an irritating bug in Mail under Mountain Lion where VoiceOver wrongly reads the status of a message if you reply to another message in the list and then delete the one you've replied too. VoiceOver incorrectly verbalises the status of other messages as Replied even though they are not replied to yet. This is a real issue in my opinion. I'm not sure whether this happens with Modern view enabled. Both Lynne and myself prefer the Classic layout. You can change this behaviour under MailPreferencesViewing. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: Mail Bug
how do you turn off the preview pain in mail did they put that item in the menu yet? On 26/07/2012, at 12:36 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi all I've already bugged this with Apple. But I wanted to tell you all now so that you are aware. There's an irritating bug in Mail under Mountain Lion where VoiceOver wrongly reads the status of a message if you reply to another message in the list and then delete the one you've replied too. VoiceOver incorrectly verbalises the status of other messages as Replied even though they are not replied to yet. This is a real issue in my opinion. I'm not sure whether this happens with Modern view enabled. Both Lynne and myself prefer the Classic layout. You can change this behaviour under MailPreferencesViewing. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: Mail Bug
and that would be a very nasty bug and if it does not get fixed it will drive me mental On 26/07/2012, at 12:36 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi all I've already bugged this with Apple. But I wanted to tell you all now so that you are aware. There's an irritating bug in Mail under Mountain Lion where VoiceOver wrongly reads the status of a message if you reply to another message in the list and then delete the one you've replied too. VoiceOver incorrectly verbalises the status of other messages as Replied even though they are not replied to yet. This is a real issue in my opinion. I'm not sure whether this happens with Modern view enabled. Both Lynne and myself prefer the Classic layout. You can change this behaviour under MailPreferencesViewing. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: Mail Bug
Noticed the same one Gordon. Hadn't got around to bugging it though so I'll leave that one. On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:36, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all I've already bugged this with Apple. But I wanted to tell you all now so that you are aware. There's an irritating bug in Mail under Mountain Lion where VoiceOver wrongly reads the status of a message if you reply to another message in the list and then delete the one you've replied too. VoiceOver incorrectly verbalises the status of other messages as Replied even though they are not replied to yet. This is a real issue in my opinion. I'm not sure whether this happens with Modern view enabled. Both Lynne and myself prefer the Classic layout. You can change this behaviour under MailPreferencesViewing. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
I believe Mountain lion supports 14 new braille displays. Anyone have an idea as to what those 14 displays are? Kind regards, Mr Sadam ahmed. Dip Management. the AshMark Institute of Australia. Sent from my iPhone. On 26/07/2012, at 12:10 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Your quite correct Gordon, I phrased my message rather clumsily. The point I was trying to make was that the extra menu had to be activated before the items contained therein could be accessed. This differes, wrongly in my view but there it is, from generic menus when voiceover movements (for example vo-down) will bring you directly into the menu rather than having to use vo-space first. On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:06, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: The other way to use menu extras is by using VoiceOver movements and VoiceOver+Space, rather than Enter to activate the menu item. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:03, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: What's also improved is how voiceover handles the extra menus. You can now see things like the Dropbox icon etc. However just be aware the usability is slightly different between menus and menu extra items. For generic menus you can move the VO focus to the menu and just press the downarrow to pull it down. On the extra menus (such as battery, wifi etc) you move VO focus to it and then press enter to bring it up. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Can I just comment now that this problem hasn't gone away under Mountain Lion. Have filed a bug (two actually) on this issue. Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't show up in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other normal ways to navigate to them and select them. I've posted a complete solution for Paula on how to use Mouse Keys to navigate to any of the tabs and select them, because you can move vertically down from the Java Preferences heading in the title bar with Mouse Keys and VoiceOver will tell you when you have moved over the Network tab if you've set the verbosity to speak items under the mouse cursor by checking that box in the announcements tab under VoiceOver Utility. Then you can start moving horizontally with Mouse Keys either to the left or right to navigate to the other tabs. It's just that it takes a lot of key presses to move this way -- I think about 32 presses of the k key to move down to the edge of the tabs, and about 75 key presses to mov e across any tab horizontally. It was only about 10 presses of the u key to move left to the Security tab if you moved down from the heading, but it would take another 75 or so to move to the edge of the General tab in order to click it, which you can do by pressing the i key. This will work every time and go directly to the control you want, but typing out the explanation of how to set up Mouse Keys and mapping out the number of key presses takes longer than just moving your cursor with your finger on the Trackpad, guided by the edge, if you only need to get to one of the tabs. Incidentally, the VoiceOver reporting behavior when I navigate onto the tab group with Mouse Keys also tells me there's an accessibility issue with the setup. I shouldn't hear the tab reported until I'm directly over it, but somehow, as I move down towards the tab area, VoiceOver starts reporting the currently selected tab group, and only identifies the individual tab names, with radio button appended, once I am directly over those tabs. It's as though the currently selected tab blots out the tab grouping selection, which is indeed how it appears from the item chooser menu behavior -- only the currently selected tab, whichever one it is, is visible to VoiceOver. If any list members are working as developers with the Mountain Lion gold master, please check the behavior of Java Preferences! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re:Mail; Preview Pane
Hi Krystal, and all! This question has been asked lots of times on list. I urge people to please use the mail archives for the group when asking questions of this nature in order to keep themselves up to date. In this particular instance, you might like to try this message thread in our public archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg10407.html And please also keep your subject lines current. This is absolutely nothing personal, and yes I too am guilty of this on occasions. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:42, krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com wrote: how do you turn off the preview pain in mail did they put that item in the menu yet? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: Mail Bug
Hi Krystal yes, it's a very ugly bug indeed which should have been squashed pre-release. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:43, krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com wrote: and that would be a very nasty bug and if it does not get fixed it will drive me mental. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
battery seems improved on iphone 4s
hi all i have been running my iphone 4s for a few days now and i followed suggestions by letting it run to zero and then go fully to 199. my usage stats now are 9 hours 20 minutes standby and 3 hours 50 minutes usage i found these in settings, general, usage, battery usage heading what please, do these mean? i have 3g on, location services on, bluetooth off not all the usage was calls and now i am on 30 percent so not too bad i guess. can't use 2g or edge as the three network in UK is only 3g but seems a lot better performance than iphone 4 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion; Things we couldn't tell you about!
Hi, I'm in the developer program, so do I still have to purchase mountain lion? I'm just curious. Courtney Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Subject line says it all. A number of us have been using Mountain Lion for quite some time, officially, either via the VoiceOver test group or as paid developers or, in my own case, both. There are still a lot of bugs in Mountain Lion, and also some new ones. There are a lot of changes under the bonnet. One of the main ones that I'd like to highlight now is the Signed Applications, (System PreferencesSecurity and Privacy). When you open a new application for the first time, if it isn't signed by Apple with a security certificate, you'll be warned. You can still open the application, but here's an easier way. If you go to the menu item I mentioned above, you can turn off the security warnings. That way, the behaviour when opening new applications will be as it was under Lion. As I said, drag and drop is very different under Mountain Lion. You can drag and drop items from one location to another. Both the original and destination locations must be visiblewhen you start dragging the items. Here's how to do it: That was the case under Lion but see what happens when you press and hold VoiceOver+Comma. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion; Things we couldn't tell you about!
Nope you have the GM seed which is the release build as far as I know. If it isn't, you can just go to the developer site and download it. Dónal On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:17, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm in the developer program, so do I still have to purchase mountain lion? I'm just curious. Courtney Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Subject line says it all. A number of us have been using Mountain Lion for quite some time, officially, either via the VoiceOver test group or as paid developers or, in my own case, both. There are still a lot of bugs in Mountain Lion, and also some new ones. There are a lot of changes under the bonnet. One of the main ones that I'd like to highlight now is the Signed Applications, (System PreferencesSecurity and Privacy). When you open a new application for the first time, if it isn't signed by Apple with a security certificate, you'll be warned. You can still open the application, but here's an easier way. If you go to the menu item I mentioned above, you can turn off the security warnings. That way, the behaviour when opening new applications will be as it was under Lion. As I said, drag and drop is very different under Mountain Lion. You can drag and drop items from one location to another. Both the original and destination locations must be visiblewhen you start dragging the items. Here's how to do it: That was the case under Lion but see what happens when you press and hold VoiceOver+Comma. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Mountain Lion Updates Time Machine For Multi-Disk Backup Support | Cult of Mac
Has anyone had a chance to play with this yet? I can't upgrade at all due to some software that's not ready to go lol! reader is available here. http://www.cultofmac.com/181004/mountain-lion-updates-time-machine-for-multi-disk-backup-support/?utm_medium=twitutm_campaign=spread-us --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Other possible cures for Dónal's muted speaker issue - was My temperamental iPhone!
Greetings Dónal, Diane and list, Another solution is to perform actions/gestures that should cause VO to emit speech and press volume up while its presumably happening. EG, pressing the power button normally causes VO to announce the time. Without VO though, I have no way of ascertaining whether I just locked my screen or unlocked it. If I use the two finger flick up gesture, and press volume up, usually by the time vo finishes announcing the time, date, notifications, and slide to unlock/take picture admonishments, its at full volume. If not, then I probably locked it, and a repeat of the sequence of pressing power, followed by the two finger flick up and volume up will do the trick. Usually when this happens, the head phone volume is unaffected, so if you're not comfortable acting on faith, you can put on the headphones, locate a volume control, and then remove the headphones before manipulating the volume slider via the flick up gesture. Lastly, there is a very intermittent issue that likely still exists with current IOS devices; I had it happen once a couple years ago on my 3GS. What happens is that a speck of dust gets into the headphone jack which causes the microswitch to remain open, fooling the hardware into believing that the headphone jack is engaged and there bye route sounds accordingly. In this scenario, the solutions suggested by Diane and me are ineffective. Instead, one can probably dislodge the item with a little canned air, or by inserting and extracting headphones into the jack several times quickly. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Diane Bomar To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: My temperamental iPhone! This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground. There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not speaking. Actually, I had not thought about this problem for a while, but have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software upgrade fixed it. Glad to know you got it working,for now. Diane - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: My temperamental iPhone! Hi all, this is very bizarre. Here are several scenarios: 1. voiceover is turned on. no sound whatsoever from the phone. No voice, no background beeps; nothing. 2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly. 3. voiceover is turned off. Phone behaves perfectly. I am confused. very very very confused! help! cheers :) Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at
Re: Other possible cures for Dónal's muted speaker issue - was My temperamental iPhone!
Hi Jeff, Love the suggestion of the two-fingered swipe. I'd tried a flick all right but to no avail which is why I posted. The headphone issue isn't one I've seen so thanks for that. Dónal On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:01, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Dónal, Diane and list, Another solution is to perform actions/gestures that should cause VO to emit speech and press volume up while its presumably happening. EG, pressing the power button normally causes VO to announce the time. Without VO though, I have no way of ascertaining whether I just locked my screen or unlocked it. If I use the two finger flick up gesture, and press volume up, usually by the time vo finishes announcing the time, date, notifications, and slide to unlock/take picture admonishments, its at full volume. If not, then I probably locked it, and a repeat of the sequence of pressing power, followed by the two finger flick up and volume up will do the trick. Usually when this happens, the head phone volume is unaffected, so if you're not comfortable acting on faith, you can put on the headphones, locate a volume control, and then remove the headphones before manipulating the volume slider via the flick up gesture. Lastly, there is a very intermittent issue that likely still exists with current IOS devices; I had it happen once a couple years ago on my 3GS. What happens is that a speck of dust gets into the headphone jack which causes the microswitch to remain open, fooling the hardware into believing that the headphone jack is engaged and there bye route sounds accordingly. In this scenario, the solutions suggested by Diane and me are ineffective. Instead, one can probably dislodge the item with a little canned air, or by inserting and extracting headphones into the jack several times quickly. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Diane Bomar To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: My temperamental iPhone! This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground. There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not speaking. Actually, I had not thought about this problem for a while, but have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software upgrade fixed it. Glad to know you got it working,for now. Diane - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: My temperamental iPhone! Hi all, this is very bizarre. Here are several scenarios: 1. voiceover is turned on. no sound whatsoever from the phone. No voice, no background beeps; nothing. 2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly. 3. voiceover is turned off. Phone behaves perfectly. I am confused. very very very confused! help! cheers :) Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s
Hi William, I'm with a US carrier and my status shows 4G. I don't know about the power demands of your carrier, but to give you a basis for comparison, my 4S was replaced by Apple in early May, so it may have been reconditioned and I've been pounding on the battery for nearly four months. Bluetooth is turned off, wi-fi is on and ping is disabled in restrictions. I now have 47% battery power, and my standbye time is 14 hours 16 minutes, and usage is 4 hours 15 minutes. To be sure, it depends what I do, because I've often been at 1% and observed that my usage was under seven hours. Still, if you're working with a new phone, your observations don't sound like what I would expect (at least using ATT in the US). Best regards, Geoff - Original Message - From: william lomas To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: battery seems improved on iphone 4s hi all i have been running my iphone 4s for a few days now and i followed suggestions by letting it run to zero and then go fully to 199. my usage stats now are 9 hours 20 minutes standby and 3 hours 50 minutes usage i found these in settings, general, usage, battery usage heading what please, do these mean? i have 3g on, location services on, bluetooth off not all the usage was calls and now i am on 30 percent so not too bad i guess. can't use 2g or edge as the three network in UK is only 3g but seems a lot better performance than iphone 4 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s
Hi Jeff, I've looked at restrictions and didn't see ping. How did you disable this? Thanks a lot, Dónal On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:18, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi William, I'm with a US carrier and my status shows 4G. I don't know about the power demands of your carrier, but to give you a basis for comparison, my 4S was replaced by Apple in early May, so it may have been reconditioned and I've been pounding on the battery for nearly four months. Bluetooth is turned off, wi-fi is on and ping is disabled in restrictions. I now have 47% battery power, and my standbye time is 14 hours 16 minutes, and usage is 4 hours 15 minutes. To be sure, it depends what I do, because I've often been at 1% and observed that my usage was under seven hours. Still, if you're working with a new phone, your observations don't sound like what I would expect (at least using ATT in the US). Best regards, Geoff - Original Message - From: william lomas To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: battery seems improved on iphone 4s hi all i have been running my iphone 4s for a few days now and i followed suggestions by letting it run to zero and then go fully to 199. my usage stats now are 9 hours 20 minutes standby and 3 hours 50 minutes usage i found these in settings, general, usage, battery usage heading what please, do these mean? i have 3g on, location services on, bluetooth off not all the usage was calls and now i am on 30 percent so not too bad i guess. can't use 2g or edge as the three network in UK is only 3g but seems a lot better performance than iphone 4 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s
Hi Dónal, I just noticed a bug where flicking right stops after the first two items (Safari and youtube). If I explore down with my finger, camera is right below youtube, and from there, three right swipes (or an inch and a half further down) gets me to the toggle for ping. I haven't explored this dialog recently, but am sure the flick gesture was working predictably in an earlier version of IOS5. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s Hi Jeff, I've looked at restrictions and didn't see ping. How did you disable this? Thanks a lot, Dónal On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:18, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi William, I'm with a US carrier and my status shows 4G. I don't know about the power demands of your carrier, but to give you a basis for comparison, my 4S was replaced by Apple in early May, so it may have been reconditioned and I've been pounding on the battery for nearly four months. Bluetooth is turned off, wi-fi is on and ping is disabled in restrictions. I now have 47% battery power, and my standbye time is 14 hours 16 minutes, and usage is 4 hours 15 minutes. To be sure, it depends what I do, because I've often been at 1% and observed that my usage was under seven hours. Still, if you're working with a new phone, your observations don't sound like what I would expect (at least using ATT in the US). Best regards, Geoff - Original Message - From: william lomas To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: battery seems improved on iphone 4s hi all i have been running my iphone 4s for a few days now and i followed suggestions by letting it run to zero and then go fully to 199. my usage stats now are 9 hours 20 minutes standby and 3 hours 50 minutes usage i found these in settings, general, usage, battery usage heading what please, do these mean? i have 3g on, location services on, bluetooth off not all the usage was calls and now i am on 30 percent so not too bad i guess. can't use 2g or edge as the three network in UK is only 3g but seems a lot better performance than iphone 4 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at
Re: best drive for super Dooper
You need the partition map to be set correctly when formatting a drive before it can be used as a bootable drive. I don't remeber the exact sequence, but you need to erase the disk and then there will be an advanced or details button that needs to e examined to set the partition map correctly. Also, some older Macintoshes (perhaps only the pre-Intel) can only boot from a firewire hard disk. Best wishes, Jonathan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:43 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I have made several unsuccessful attempts to create a Carbon Copy boot partition on several different external drive. Every time I create it protests that the drive is not bootable. I have formatted Mac partitions and drives until I am blue in the face with no success, so I thought I would buy an entirely fresh drive and buy super dooper to see if the process is more friendly and less frustrating. It occurs to me that if I buy a drive pre-formatted to Mac OS things might be smoother though in theory I cannot understand why the drives I formatted on the Mac did not work. Anyway in view of these difficulties can anybody recommend an external drive which definitely works with super dooper? David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Egg Freckles | Installing Mountain Lion Clean
What happens if you just open the file and install? On 7/25/12, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: the steps are the same as lion but for those who are new at this good luck. He/she does a good job at outlining the steps in an easy to read guide. http://eggfreckles.net/notes/installing-mountain-lion-clean/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mail; Preview Pane
i think i got it fixed not sure though On 26/07/2012, at 1:25 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Krystal, and all! This question has been asked lots of times on list. I urge people to please use the mail archives for the group when asking questions of this nature in order to keep themselves up to date. In this particular instance, you might like to try this message thread in our public archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg10407.html And please also keep your subject lines current. This is absolutely nothing personal, and yes I too am guilty of this on occasions. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:42, krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com wrote: how do you turn off the preview pain in mail did they put that item in the menu yet? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Egg Freckles | Installing Mountain Lion Clean
It will do the upgrade. You won't loose any data that way but if you have a corrupt settings something you will migrate that over. it's best to do a clean install in my humble opinion then migrate your apps and stuff over using the migration wizard. of corse you are going to get differing opinions on this subject but to each his own. I do a clean install of all of my OSs starting from what ever I had in 2001. lol! Take care all and be blessed. it's time for me to go take care of some stuffage. On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:19 AM, josh gregory wrote: What happens if you just open the file and install? On 7/25/12, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: the steps are the same as lion but for those who are new at this good luck. He/she does a good job at outlining the steps in an easy to read guide. http://eggfreckles.net/notes/installing-mountain-lion-clean/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: best drive for super Dooper
I believe what you are looking for is the GUID partition setting under advanced. 'Take care. On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: You need the partition map to be set correctly when formatting a drive before it can be used as a bootable drive. I don't remeber the exact sequence, but you need to erase the disk and then there will be an advanced or details button that needs to e examined to set the partition map correctly. Also, some older Macintoshes (perhaps only the pre-Intel) can only boot from a firewire hard disk. Best wishes, Jonathan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:43 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I have made several unsuccessful attempts to create a Carbon Copy boot partition on several different external drive. Every time I create it protests that the drive is not bootable. I have formatted Mac partitions and drives until I am blue in the face with no success, so I thought I would buy an entirely fresh drive and buy super dooper to see if the process is more friendly and less frustrating. It occurs to me that if I buy a drive pre-formatted to Mac OS things might be smoother though in theory I cannot understand why the drives I formatted on the Mac did not work. Anyway in view of these difficulties can anybody recommend an external drive which definitely works with super dooper? David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Setting my Mack back to default settings without deleting data
Hi all, So I upgraded to Mountain Lion today and everything went smoothly. The problem is, I kind of wish I could've done a clean install so that I can remove this Safari third party toolbar that I installed years ago that no longer works and I get a dialog saying that it doesn't work upon launching Safari. Also, I am trying to really make the Mac how it was when I was testing Mountain Lion betas. On some folders such as my downloads folder, pressing CMD-Down arrow to open that folder individually instead of pressing right arrow doesn't work. It says opening selection and doesn't open. I have to press right arrow to open it, whereas on the Mountain Lion beta partition I had it wasn't like that because I don't know what I've changed on certain folders for it to behave like that. My documents folder, for instance, works just fine the way it's supposed to when I hit Command Down Arrow. So, anyone know how to get my Mac working similar to the defaults? For some more info for helping me with the third party Safari Toolbar, I know that it is in one of the folders that Migration Assistant says is other folders and files on said drive. Not sure what these folders are, but I'm sure I can find the stupid thing there. Thanks. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s
Sorry Jeff, I'm going deaf in my old age! I mistook Karen's pronunciation of ping for paying. My bad! Dónal On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:49, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dónal, I just noticed a bug where flicking right stops after the first two items (Safari and youtube). If I explore down with my finger, camera is right below youtube, and from there, three right swipes (or an inch and a half further down) gets me to the toggle for ping. I haven't explored this dialog recently, but am sure the flick gesture was working predictably in an earlier version of IOS5. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: Re: battery seems improved on iphone 4s Hi Jeff, I've looked at restrictions and didn't see ping. How did you disable this? Thanks a lot, Dónal On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:18, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi William, I'm with a US carrier and my status shows 4G. I don't know about the power demands of your carrier, but to give you a basis for comparison, my 4S was replaced by Apple in early May, so it may have been reconditioned and I've been pounding on the battery for nearly four months. Bluetooth is turned off, wi-fi is on and ping is disabled in restrictions. I now have 47% battery power, and my standbye time is 14 hours 16 minutes, and usage is 4 hours 15 minutes. To be sure, it depends what I do, because I've often been at 1% and observed that my usage was under seven hours. Still, if you're working with a new phone, your observations don't sound like what I would expect (at least using ATT in the US). Best regards, Geoff - Original Message - From: william lomas To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: battery seems improved on iphone 4s hi all i have been running my iphone 4s for a few days now and i followed suggestions by letting it run to zero and then go fully to 199. my usage stats now are 9 hours 20 minutes standby and 3 hours 50 minutes usage i found these in settings, general, usage, battery usage heading what please, do these mean? i have 3g on, location services on, bluetooth off not all the usage was calls and now i am on 30 percent so not too bad i guess. can't use 2g or edge as the three network in UK is only 3g but seems a lot better performance than iphone 4 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Re: Mountain Lion; Things we couldn't tell you about!
If you are, the build you have is the final build. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:17, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm in the developer program, so do I still have to purchase mountain lion? I'm just curious. Courtney Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Subject line says it all. A number of us have been using Mountain Lion for quite some time, officially, either via the VoiceOver test group or as paid developers or, in my own case, both. There are still a lot of bugs in Mountain Lion, and also some new ones. There are a lot of changes under the bonnet. One of the main ones that I'd like to highlight now is the Signed Applications, (System PreferencesSecurity and Privacy). When you open a new application for the first time, if it isn't signed by Apple with a security certificate, you'll be warned. You can still open the application, but here's an easier way. If you go to the menu item I mentioned above, you can turn off the security warnings. That way, the behaviour when opening new applications will be as it was under Lion. As I said, drag and drop is very different under Mountain Lion. You can drag and drop items from one location to another. Both the original and destination locations must be visiblewhen you start dragging the items. Here's how to do it: That was the case under Lion but see what happens when you press and hold VoiceOver+Comma. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion; Things we couldn't tell you about!
That's correct. The Gold Master seed was the final build version, build number 12A69. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:18, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Nope you have the GM seed which is the release build as far as I know. If it isn't, you can just go to the developer site and download it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
More Take Control Title Info
Hello everybody For the benefit of those who purchased the Take Control of Upgrading to Mountain Lion title from us, a new version has just been released. This is a free update so by all means do let us know if you are one of those people. Also, if you bought Take Control of Apple Mail in Lion from us at any time, or even if you bought it from Travis, do contact us as the new Mountain Lion version is a free update. You're most welcome to it, as long as you forward to us proof of payment. If you don't have that proof, still contact us as we should be able to find it in our records, or we'll ask Travis to verify. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Take Control Titles
I would be interested in ordering the Applevale Mountain lion book. Thank you. TJ On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Just so they know, we are now processing delivery of the pre-ordered Take Control titles referring to Mountain Lion which people pre-ordered. Also, we have the new Take Control of Using Apple Mail in Mountain Lion for those interested. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Take Control Titles
I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. On 7/25/12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Just so they know, we are now processing delivery of the pre-ordered Take Control titles referring to Mountain Lion which people pre-ordered. Also, we have the new Take Control of Using Apple Mail in Mountain Lion for those interested. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Take Control Titles
My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed Apple about it. On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. On 7/25/12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Just so they know, we are now processing delivery of the pre-ordered Take Control titles referring to Mountain Lion which people pre-ordered. Also, we have the new Take Control of Using Apple Mail in Mountain Lion for those interested. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Mountain Lion Up-to-date program for recent Mac buyers [was Re: Take Control Titles]
Hello Josh, Tim, and Others, I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program for getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new Mac from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012, or a refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates. This program also applies to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but which come with Lion installed. The program is called Up-to-Date, and you have to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August 24, 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which have Lion loaded as the operating system). The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a coupon code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App Store, but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes not working in the massive startup today. For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date program: http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your purchase, so they can check for eligibility. I think this is probably easiest if you purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because they can immediately match the records to verify your transaction. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed Apple about it. On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Take Control Titles
Hi Timothy Please contact us off list supp...@mac-access.net for details. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 22:27, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I would be interested in ordering the Applevale Mountain lion book. Thank you. TJ On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Just so they know, we are now processing delivery of the pre-ordered Take Control titles referring to Mountain Lion which people pre-ordered. Also, we have the new Take Control of Using Apple Mail in Mountain Lion for those interested. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Take Control Titles
Josh This is a book with a loot of info. Please get back to us off list on this subject iof uyou want to discuss it further. supp...@mac-access.net On 25 Jul 2012, at 22:30, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. On 7/25/12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Just so they know, we are now processing delivery of the pre-ordered Take Control titles referring to Mountain Lion which people pre-ordered. Also, we have the new Take Control of Using Apple Mail in Mountain Lion for those interested. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Up-to-date program for recent Mac buyers [was Re: Take Control Titles]
Right, I get that. But when attempting to type into this field, voiceover wouldn't do it. On 7/25/12, mori...@mac.com mori...@mac.com wrote: Hello Josh, Tim, and Others, I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program for getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new Mac from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012, or a refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates. This program also applies to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but which come with Lion installed. The program is called Up-to-Date, and you have to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August 24, 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which have Lion loaded as the operating system). The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a coupon code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App Store, but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes not working in the massive startup today. For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date program: http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your purchase, so they can check for eligibility. I think this is probably easiest if you purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because they can immediately match the records to verify your transaction. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed Apple about it. On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Take Control Titles
No, I meant mail itself, what are the changes in it. Although the book does sound cool :) On 7/25/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Josh This is a book with a loot of info. Please get back to us off list on this subject iof uyou want to discuss it further. supp...@mac-access.net On 25 Jul 2012, at 22:30, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. On 7/25/12, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Just so they know, we are now processing delivery of the pre-ordered Take Control titles referring to Mountain Lion which people pre-ordered. Also, we have the new Take Control of Using Apple Mail in Mountain Lion for those interested. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Up-to-date program for recent Mac buyers [was Re: Take Control Titles]
Hi, I pointed this out in an earlier message about upgrading to Mountain Lion. If you hit enter, VoiceOVer speaks the current date but I haven't found a way to accessibly change it. I'd guess that it's a widget which makes use of a canvas element or another visual element to change the date, but the arrow keys don't actively seem to do anything. In a lot of cases, the mouse is the only way to use these kinds of elements. My guess is that you can use Mouse keys, but I'm not very proficient at them and I find them pretty slow as they only seem to move by pixel. I've done this without VoiceOVer on, and I just tried this with VoiceOver on as well and it works. Essentially, what VoiceOver does not pick up is that it is a table imbedded within a widget such as a canvas, which contains the various dates. You have to click on them to change the date. If you use the Speak text under mouse after delay checkbox in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Announcements tab, you can use the mouse to quite accessibly move your finger over the various columns and click to change it. VoiceOver will announce the change, but be sure to hit enter first when the date text has focus or VoiceOver seems to remain quiet. I also recommend that if you use this approach, set the delay slider to 0% so that it is 0 seconds. Obviously, it's important that you ensure the mouse has focus with VO-F5. The element normally does obtain focus as expected, but if not, hit VO-Command-F5 and start moving around to try to find the date you want. Again, Apple should have designed this with accessibility in mind, but it has not it would seem. I'm sorry if this sounds like a very crazy approach, but it seems to be the only one in this instance. Mouse keys seem to move by pixels, and this is fine except it would take a very long time to get between the various columns. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:31 AM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Right, I get that. But when attempting to type into this field, voiceover wouldn't do it. On 7/25/12, mori...@mac.com mori...@mac.com wrote: Hello Josh, Tim, and Others, I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program for getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new Mac from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012, or a refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates. This program also applies to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but which come with Lion installed. The program is called Up-to-Date, and you have to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August 24, 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which have Lion loaded as the operating system). The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a coupon code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App Store, but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes not working in the massive startup today. For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date program: http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your purchase, so they can check for eligibility. I think this is probably easiest if you purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because they can immediately match the records to verify your transaction. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed Apple about it. On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to
Re: Mountain Lion Up-to-date program for recent Mac buyers [was Re: Take Control Titles]
I emailed accessibility, I'll probably get the same thing back, but you're right, not initially accessible at all. On 7/25/12, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I pointed this out in an earlier message about upgrading to Mountain Lion. If you hit enter, VoiceOVer speaks the current date but I haven't found a way to accessibly change it. I'd guess that it's a widget which makes use of a canvas element or another visual element to change the date, but the arrow keys don't actively seem to do anything. In a lot of cases, the mouse is the only way to use these kinds of elements. My guess is that you can use Mouse keys, but I'm not very proficient at them and I find them pretty slow as they only seem to move by pixel. I've done this without VoiceOVer on, and I just tried this with VoiceOver on as well and it works. Essentially, what VoiceOver does not pick up is that it is a table imbedded within a widget such as a canvas, which contains the various dates. You have to click on them to change the date. If you use the Speak text under mouse after delay checkbox in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Announcements tab, you can use the mouse to quite accessibly move your finger over the various columns and click to change it. VoiceOver will announce the change, but be sure to hit enter first when the date text has focus or VoiceOver seems to remain quiet. I also recommend that if you use this approach, set the delay slider to 0% so that it is 0 seconds. Obviously, it's important that you ensure the mouse has focus with VO-F5. The element normally does obtain focus as expected, but if not, hit VO-Command-F5 and start moving around to try to find the date you want. Again, Apple should have designed this with accessibility in mind, but it has not it would seem. I'm sorry if this sounds like a very crazy approach, but it seems to be the only one in this instance. Mouse keys seem to move by pixels, and this is fine except it would take a very long time to get between the various columns. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:31 AM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Right, I get that. But when attempting to type into this field, voiceover wouldn't do it. On 7/25/12, mori...@mac.com mori...@mac.com wrote: Hello Josh, Tim, and Others, I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program for getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new Mac from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012, or a refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates. This program also applies to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but which come with Lion installed. The program is called Up-to-Date, and you have to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August 24, 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which have Lion loaded as the operating system). The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a coupon code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App Store, but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes not working in the massive startup today. For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date program: http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your purchase, so they can check for eligibility. I think this is probably easiest if you purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because they can immediately match the records to verify your transaction. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed Apple about it. On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free!
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Hello: I am running Fusion 4 on ML using Window-Eyes with no issue at all. Early 2008 iMac with 4GB of ram. On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all.I just got word that Vmware is not supported in mountain lion. this sucks as I start classes in the fall. I sure hope they will come out with an update soon. this puts a clenture in my upgrading. but at least i have the app and I can copy it some ware. I'll remain an optimist this time and hope they come out with an upgrade before long, preferably tomorrow lol! Hehahaha. Take care and be blessed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Up-to-date program for recent Mac buyers [was Re: Take Control Titles]
Yeah should have it by tm with luck, :) thanks! On 7/25/12, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Way too cool! and good luck on getting that. Apple are wonderful in regards to customer service. I know from a lot of them having to deal with me lol! Take care all and be blessed. On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:39 PM, josh gregory wrote: Vo didn't read them? Strange... I'll get mine hopefully soon too, :) On 7/25/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: ok, there's apparently some fields that I couldn't see. I managed to call apple and have them do it all for me. they'll send me a code in the next day or so. I bought my mac last saturday, so I definitely qualify. On 26/07/2012, at 9:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: Hmmm... when did you buy your mac? Just curious as if you bought it before or after a certain date you can't get it. Double check the fields, just to be sure. Cool that you got that to work, I'll play around with it if I can find other sights like it. Any ideas? On 7/25/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: I got that to work, but, now, I enter in my name, email and contact details and it's now telling me to correct the fields in red. here's the funny thing, I've entered it exactly as it appears on my iTunes account. go figure. On 26/07/2012, at 9:27 AM, josh gregory wrote: I guess you gotta go into universal access, enable announcements after late mouse or whatever it's called, press enter on that field, and slide around to the date you want. Look back at the post that I know explains it a lot better than I did, lol. Sorry. On 7/25/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: I found this as well. I tried to enter my date of purchase and it would not allow me to enter it. I must say this is inconvenient. Any help regarding this would be greatly appreciated. On 26/07/2012, at 8:01 AM, josh gregory wrote: Right, I get that. But when attempting to type into this field, voiceover wouldn't do it. On 7/25/12, mori...@mac.com mori...@mac.com wrote: Hello Josh, Tim, and Others, I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program for getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new Mac from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012, or a refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates. This program also applies to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but which come with Lion installed. The program is called Up-to-Date, and you have to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August 24, 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which have Lion loaded as the operating system). The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a coupon code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App Store, but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes not working in the massive startup today. For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date program: http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your purchase, so they can check for eligibility. I think this is probably easiest if you purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because they can immediately match the records to verify your transaction. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed Apple about it. On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me:
