Amadeus Lite - Exporting to iPhone Ringtone
Hello all. I found a feature in Amadeus Lite to export a file as an iPhone ringtone. I tried this, and it sort of works, except the whole file got exported. I realize the limitation regarding iPhone ringtones in that they must be no more than 30 seconds in length. So can anyone tell me where I went wrong please? I left the Export as iPhone Ringtone settings at their defaults. Alternatively should I use an app like Fission to do this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: • Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all
Re: Rogue Amoeba's 10th Anniversary Birthday Sale
Cheers! Have just ordered the Audio Hijack Pro and Fission Bundle. That's quite a save! Also note the UK version of their store is completely accessible. On 30/09/2012 04:30, Esther wrote: Hi All, We mentioned that there would be a sale in celebration of Rogue Amoeba's 10th anniversary on September 30th. If you visit their main web page, there's now a 10th anniversary.png link that will take you to this site: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/store/deals/TenthAnniversary.php You'll save $10 off each of their advertised products, so Airfoil for either Mac or Windows is $15 instead of $25, and if you want their combined Airfoil bundle for both platforms it's $30 instead of $40. Audio Hijack Pro, which has been discussed extensively here, is $22 instead of $32. Fission, the lossless audio editor that Lynne mentioned recently, is $22 instead of $32, and if you want to buy the Audio Hijack Pro + Fission bundle, it's $40 instead of $50. Nicecast for broadcasting your music is $49 instead of $59, and Piezo, a very simple recording app, is $5 instead of $15. I'm writing out the prices because the announcement of prices of the column three labels on their web page doesn't accurately reflect the prices announced in their email newsletter, and all the entries read the same, incorrect price drop ($25 to $5 -- unfortunately not true.) If you activate the buttons in the fourth column of this page, the items will be placed in your shopping cart at the discounted price. For that matter, if you purchase items from the regular page today, they'll show up in your shopping cart at the discounted price in honor of the 10th anniversary. OK, one more accessibility fix announcement: On the check out page, there are two radio buttons for the payment option that are not further detailed. The first one, selected by default, is for credit card payments. The second radio button is for Paypal. This is obvious when you activate the Continue link to provide the final payment information. Despite the checkout issues, the software is very good. This offer is in effect for the next day. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Amadeus Lite - Exporting to iPhone Ringtone
Chris, One of the features of Amadeus Pro or Lite is that it lets you interactively select the portion of any audio track you want to process or cut out -- whether that's to excerpt, apply noise cleaning, use audio effects, etc. If you selected a track, and didn't specify in any way that you wanted to select a section of the track, the program will convert the entire track to the ringtone format. Drop some markers to select the part of a track you want to make into a ringtone. For example, press space bar to start the track playing, then press P to place a marker at positions you select, and press space bar again to pause the playback. Use Option+Left Arrow to move to the previous marker position and Option+Right Arrow to move to the next marker. If you're happy with the placement of the markers, use the Selection menu to mark the part of the track you want select. You can move to the marker for your start position and use Mark selection (shortcut Command-Shift-M.) Then use Command-Right arrow to Extend to next marker, which can also be found in the Selection menu on the menu bar. You can check the selection by pressing space bar again, and playback will start and stop at your selected region. Apply the function to export as a ringtone to your selection. Note that you can copy, cut, and paste selections from tracks in Amadeus Pro, so you could create a new track from you selection. There have been some previous podcasts about Amadeus Pro discussed on this list by Allison, Paul Hopewell, Eric Caron, and Dane. Here's a link to a post in the archives that gives some useful links. (I used the link to the public Mail Archive that appears at the bottom of each page, typed Amadeus Pro podcast into the text box, and pressed return, then copied the first link of the results): • Re: Amadeus Pro http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg10488.html (Note that the reference to the Amadeus 101 podcast by Allison is from Sarah's earlier post, quoted below my post, and given as the podbean site. You can also use Control-P as a shortcut to read previous notes in threads at the Mail Archive, so pressing Control-P twice will take you to Sarah's post. Eric and Dane submitted podcasts to Blind Cool Tech when an earlier version of Amadeus Pro was in use, so the sources listed in the linked post may be more helpful. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Chris wrote: Hello all. I found a feature in Amadeus Lite to export a file as an iPhone ringtone. I tried this, and it sort of works, except the whole file got exported. I realize the limitation regarding iPhone ringtones in that they must be no more than 30 seconds in length. So can anyone tell me where I went wrong please? I left the Export as iPhone Ringtone settings at their defaults. Alternatively should I use an app like Fission to do this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Amadeus Lite - Exporting to iPhone Ringtone
Thanks Ester, greatly appreciated. On 30/09/2012 12:02, Esther wrote: Chris, One of the features of Amadeus Pro or Lite is that it lets you interactively select the portion of any audio track you want to process or cut out -- whether that's to excerpt, apply noise cleaning, use audio effects, etc. If you selected a track, and didn't specify in any way that you wanted to select a section of the track, the program will convert the entire track to the ringtone format. Drop some markers to select the part of a track you want to make into a ringtone. For example, press space bar to start the track playing, then press P to place a marker at positions you select, and press space bar again to pause the playback. Use Option+Left Arrow to move to the previous marker position and Option+Right Arrow to move to the next marker. If you're happy with the placement of the markers, use the Selection menu to mark the part of the track you want select. You can move to the marker for your start position and use Mark selection (shortcut Command-Shift-M.) Then u se Comm and-Right arrow to Extend to next marker, which can also be found in the Selection menu on the menu bar. You can check the selection by pressing space bar again, and playback will start and stop at your selected region. Apply the function to export as a ringtone to your selection. Note that you can copy, cut, and paste selections from tracks in Amadeus Pro, so you could create a new track from you selection. There have been some previous podcasts about Amadeus Pro discussed on this list by Allison, Paul Hopewell, Eric Caron, and Dane. Here's a link to a post in the archives that gives some useful links. (I used the link to the public Mail Archive that appears at the bottom of each page, typed Amadeus Pro podcast into the text box, and pressed return, then copied the first link of the results): • Re: Amadeus Pro http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg10488.html (Note that the reference to the Amadeus 101 podcast by Allison is from Sarah's earlier post, quoted below my post, and given as the podbean site. You can also use Control-P as a shortcut to read previous notes in threads at the Mail Archive, so pressing Control-P twice will take you to Sarah's post. Eric and Dane submitted podcasts to Blind Cool Tech when an earlier version of Amadeus Pro was in use, so the sources listed in the linked post may be more helpful. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Chris wrote: Hello all. I found a feature in Amadeus Lite to export a file as an iPhone ringtone. I tried this, and it sort of works, except the whole file got exported. I realize the limitation regarding iPhone ringtones in that they must be no more than 30 seconds in length. So can anyone tell me where I went wrong please? I left the Export as iPhone Ringtone settings at their defaults. Alternatively should I use an app like Fission to do this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Rogue Amoeba's 10th Anniversary Birthday Sale
And also ordered Airfoil for Mac. They are all now registered. On 30/09/2012 11:26, Chris wrote: Cheers! Have just ordered the Audio Hijack Pro and Fission Bundle. That's quite a save! Also note the UK version of their store is completely accessible. On 30/09/2012 04:30, Esther wrote: Hi All, We mentioned that there would be a sale in celebration of Rogue Amoeba's 10th anniversary on September 30th. If you visit their main web page, there's now a 10th anniversary.png link that will take you to this site: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/store/deals/TenthAnniversary.php You'll save $10 off each of their advertised products, so Airfoil for either Mac or Windows is $15 instead of $25, and if you want their combined Airfoil bundle for both platforms it's $30 instead of $40. Audio Hijack Pro, which has been discussed extensively here, is $22 instead of $32. Fission, the lossless audio editor that Lynne mentioned recently, is $22 instead of $32, and if you want to buy the Audio Hijack Pro + Fission bundle, it's $40 instead of $50. Nicecast for broadcasting your music is $49 instead of $59, and Piezo, a very simple recording app, is $5 instead of $15. I'm writing out the prices because the announcement of prices of the column three labels on their web page doesn't accurately reflect the prices announced in their email newsletter, and all the entries read the same, incorrect price drop ($25 to $5 -- unfortunately not true.) If you activate the buttons in the fourth column of this page, the items will be placed in your shopping cart at the discounted price. For that matter, if you purchase items from the regular page today, they'll show up in your shopping cart at the discounted price in honor of the 10th anniversary. OK, one more accessibility fix announcement: On the check out page, there are two radio buttons for the payment option that are not further detailed. The first one, selected by default, is for credit card payments. The second radio button is for Paypal. This is obvious when you activate the Continue link to provide the final payment information. Despite the checkout issues, the software is very good. This offer is in effect for the next day. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: • Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing
RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking
RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Sorry for my previous message I thought you had said eloquence. If you want a smoother experience with elements. I went into Voiceover utility and enabled single letter navigation in the web settings. Hopefully that helps. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
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from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The
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for that to work, you need to be able to switch between quick nav and normal navigation. only when you're in quicknav do the single key navigation keystrokes work. Just something to remember. On 30/09/2012, at 10:01 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Sorry for my previous message I thought you had said eloquence. If you want a smoother experience with elements. I went into Voiceover utility and enabled single letter navigation in the web settings. Hopefully that helps. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you.
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I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't
Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Well there is no reason why a developer could not create a Safari extension to perform the same functions as Flexible Web which is found in JAWS 14 (which I must admit is pretty awesome and innovative). Or perhaps Apple could consider adding such a facility to Activities within Voiceover preferences. The reader function in Safari is a blessing when it is available though, as it really does get rid of a lot of clutter. The pitch change problem with HQ voices no longer exists for myself. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:10, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: • Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are
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I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the
RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel
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Yes, the numpad does make things easier, and on the laptops, you can use the trackpad commander which also makes navigating much easier. On Sep 29, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote: I've also had it said to me that if you can get hold of a numpad, bluetooth or otherwise, you can make full use of numpad commander and it makes the navigating experience just that much better. I personally had no issue with learning to use the mac. I learned to drive on around two years ago, as a friend of mine had one. ever since then, I could wander into a store, turn voiceover on and have a play. Now I have one, I've not looked back. On 30/09/2012, at 12:45 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Here, Here. Well said. I've just migrated to mac and I'm quite surprised with how accessible it really is. I have virtually no site, and I'm learning to get around it quite well. I particularly love the way that you can use the Item chooser to navigate around a page rather than tab around a hole screen in other systems to find what you want. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 3:39 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] Hello John, Will and all As somebody with vision looking in, so to speak, I frequently find it astonishing when I hear people criticising what Apple is doing with accessibility; particularly in view of the practicalities. For instance, unless you're a pirate and by definition, therefore, a thief, Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and Dolphin Access, to name but three vendors, charge a very great deal of money for their accessibility tools. Also, Microsoft charges for their operating system, even for the most basic version, over 5 times what Apple does. VoiceOver is a free and, most of the time, very reliable product. It gives the user access to a WYSIWYG, (what you see is what you get) interface to websites. Most of which can, if you take the time to learn to use it, be navigated extremely well using VoiceOver and Safari. Ultimately, it really depends upon the individual. If you just want a sheet of virtual paper with a hand-holding web environment, by all means use your other products and I wish you the very best of luck in all you do. I, (and I count my lucky stars, believe me), have the advantage of vision and I have seen both sides of this. I do see some sites where VoiceOver just will not play nicely and yes, we have seen some pretty spectacular crashes at times. However, in the general scheme of things, the environment is more stable and just as, if not more, reliable than the competition if, and it is a very big if, the pilot of the machine takes the time and effort to learn to handle it. I sincerely hope that we see a time when Apple perfects their accessibility tools. But make no mistake about it; they are committed to accessibility and they will improve their offerings. Remember also that the competing products have been available far far longer than has VoiceOver. Yes, I know that you can't always go by that and I know also that Apple has been involved in the field of accessibility for around 8 years now. However, just cast your mind back to how things were before Apple entered the market. Apple really has made a difference, not only to their own products, but also the competition. I recall the vice president of one accessibility company saying: It's all very well having an operating system with a talking installer. But that's not much use if you can't do anything with it afterwards. That statement was a direct quote. It was, and remains, the utterings of a frightened man who feared losing custom. As things have worked out, that is exactly what has happened. Literally tens of thousands of visually impaired users across the world have now migrated to Apple's products; desktop and mobile. Indeed, the vice president of Freedom Scientific himself is the proud owner of an iPhone. Make of that what you will! Anyway, I am ranting. But I sometimes find it really disappointing when I hear people complaining like this. People who have freedom to choose. The long and the short of this is: If you want perfection, you'll be waiting for a very very long time. If you are prepared to be flexible and innovative, you have the power at your fingertips, quite literally in some cases. If, however, you are happy with constant virtualisation, hand-holding and costly solutions, then perhaps Apple's platforms are not for you. yes, there are free and low-cost applications available out there for other operating systems. And that is to be applauded. However, you are still working within the confines of an often insecure, vulnerable and unstable environment.
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Well I personally don't agree about Carin, I really hate this voice, it really gets on my nerves. I much prefer Samantha which I use on my IDevices as well as on the mac but of course, different people, different tastes which is fine of course. As a non native English speaker, I tend to prefer American voices in general. My favorite of course is Alex I must admit and I use Alex along with Samantha. Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted
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well to me the HQ voices are perfectly usable..I use Samantha on my mac and the changing pitch, even though somewhat annoying does not really bother me all that much to the point of not using them. And please, don't wish for Eloquence on the mac, that's an insult! I know Apple won't even think about it thank God! On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always frustrates me when I see any product being bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that you're having a great day! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email:
Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Well I personally don't agree about Carin, I really hate this voice, it really gets on my nerves. I much prefer Samantha which I use on my IDevices as well as on the mac but of course, different people, different tastes which is fine of course. As a non native English speaker, I tend to prefer American voices in general. My favorite of course is Alex I must admit and I use Alex along with Samantha. Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted
i tunes question
hi all this is a stupid question maybe but how do i expand a sauce in i tunes thanks krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
voices on i devices was Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
hi every one why can't apple put alex on a i device krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com On 30/09/2012, at 11:27 PM, Lyn her faithful furry friends helian...@mac-access.net wrote: Well I personally don't agree about Carin, I really hate this voice, it really gets on my nerves. I much prefer Samantha which I use on my IDevices as well as on the mac but of course, different people, different tastes which is fine of course. As a non native English speaker, I tend to prefer American voices in general. My favorite of course is Alex I must admit and I use Alex along with Samantha. Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right
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yes you can use karen on i phones i have her on mine krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com On 30/09/2012, at 11:04 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what
RE: voices on i devices was Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
I'd love an answer to this too! -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:13 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: voices on i devices was Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] hi every one why can't apple put alex on a i device krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com On 30/09/2012, at 11:27 PM, Lyn her faithful furry friends helian...@mac-access.net wrote: Well I personally don't agree about Carin, I really hate this voice, it really gets on my nerves. I much prefer Samantha which I use on my IDevices as well as on the mac but of course, different people, different tastes which is fine of course. As a non native English speaker, I tend to prefer American voices in general. My favorite of course is Alex I must admit and I use Alex along with Samantha. Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of
RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Yes, but will she work for siri and everything even though I'm in the US? I don't have an Itoy yet and can't afford 1, but this is definitely something I'm trying to find out about. I would rather not use Samantha at all if I don't have to. From what I understand, I don't think if it will let me get the non-compact version of Karen being in the states, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:17 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] yes you can use karen on i phones i have her on mine krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com On 30/09/2012, at 11:04 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen
Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
yes krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com On 01/10/2012, at 12:11 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but will she work for siri and everything even though I'm in the US? I don't have an Itoy yet and can't afford 1, but this is definitely something I'm trying to find out about. I would rather not use Samantha at all if I don't have to. From what I understand, I don't think if it will let me get the non-compact version of Karen being in the states, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:17 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] yes you can use karen on i phones i have her on mine krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com On 30/09/2012, at 11:04 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; don't know why, but I've always had a very strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any justice. On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able
Re: Missing AudioBook Problem resolved
Hi Donal When we installed the GM, having first installed the previous beta builds, I didn't get the bug. It only happened on the final release and as I said before, the books had somehow become unchecked. When I re-checked the selected books, all was well. This applied both to all of our iPhones and also the iPad 3 we have here. Gordon On 29 Sep 2012, at 20:16, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Alas Gordon, for me the books were synced and present on the device. Interestingly, Apple contacted me through the bug reporter utility as soon as the GM seed was released to ascertain if the bug still remained. It didn't, so I closed it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OnLine Banking With Accessibility; [Was so wish apple had done this]
Hi Your last sentence made me laugh. No such thing as Honesty where banks are concerned, but that's another issue. As Lyne said last night, the bank we use has a very accessible website on both platforms. I use mac OS X 99.9% of the time, but that is still the case. They use a two-tear security system on long-in and it works fine. That's actually one area of Safari which I really like. It handles things like combo boxes, check boxes, edit fields and other elements like that really well. On 30 Sep 2012, at 03:03, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: I'll add to this that in Australia St George bank have spent much time and effort along with consultation with the blind to build a fully accessible online banking site on windows and os10. Also, although I haven't yet fully tested their iOS app, everything I've tried has been accessible. Shop round for the right financial institution both for value and honesty but also for accessibility. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Question about DVD and CD Burning software for the Mac?
There are a few, and indeed one of them is built into the operating system. Have a look on Google for SimplyBurns although we personally use a combination of NTI DragonBurn which is not free, there are a number. Travis wrote one app actually but I haven't tested in Mountain Lion. Travis might be able to tell you whether SoftCon Burner would still work. Gordon On 30 Sep 2012, at 07:08, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi All Does anyone know of good CD and DVD burning software for the Mac that is accessible with Voiceover? Thanks Debbie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Gordon Smith --- If you wish to contact me privately, please use E-Mail in the first instance, before you try the below. Please also observe time differences. I prefer telephone calls by prior arrangement where possible. E-Mail: gor...@mac-access.net Telephone: If you have a SIP phone, just dial: supp...@mac-access.net United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Australia: +61 38 8205930 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/@maciosaccess -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. Lynne On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too
Re: OnLine Banking With Accessibility; [Was so wish apple had done this]
Let me just be clear that the TD Bank online site is perfectly accessible with Safari and VoiceOver. The only issue is that Safari crashes at times, which does not happen if I use the Lightning web browser or Firefox. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Your last sentence made me laugh. No such thing as Honesty where banks are concerned, but that's another issue. As Lyne said last night, the bank we use has a very accessible website on both platforms. I use mac OS X 99.9% of the time, but that is still the case. They use a two-tear security system on long-in and it works fine. That's actually one area of Safari which I really like. It handles things like combo boxes, check boxes, edit fields and other elements like that really well. On 30 Sep 2012, at 03:03, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: I'll add to this that in Australia St George bank have spent much time and effort along with consultation with the blind to build a fully accessible online banking site on windows and os10. Also, although I haven't yet fully tested their iOS app, everything I've tried has been accessible. Shop round for the right financial institution both for value and honesty but also for accessibility. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: voices on i devices was Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Alex eats a lot of memory and cpu power. Because of this, it would not be appropriate on Idevices, because they are low memory/low cpu products. I'm not talking about the 16/32GB they talk about when selling the devices, this is storge, not usable program memory. Alex is large, because it's the most human sounding voice, and as a result, it eats a lot of resources to get this quality. Lower quality means smaller memory footprint, thus no alex on idevices. Perhaps in future, it will be ported, when speech algorithms get better, but for now, I wouldn't expect to see alex on iphone/ipad anytime soon. Besides, the voices it already has are (imo) quite good, and they've been optimized for device usage, and do a decent job. I don't even use alex on my pmac, because it eats too many resources I prefer to leave open for other processes, but that's why apple provides different voices, everyone can choose whichever voice works best for them. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Question about DVD and CD Burning software for the Mac?
Unfortunately, my machines don't have the resources to run the latest versions of osx. As a result, I have not been able to test the softcon programs to determine if they work on anything above snowleopard. I apologize, but others will have to make this determination. If anyone would like to try them, all the softconprograms (as always) are located at: http://www.softcon.com/mac/ Hope this helps. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve anybody in a My toy's better than yours debate. What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in
RE: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 883, Issue 3
Hello is there a way that i can change from the digest to receiving all the lists email thanks in advance ---wayne coles--Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net Sent: 30 September 2012 07:04 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 883, Issue 3 Send Mac-Access mailing list submissions to mac-access@mac-access.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net You can reach the person managing the list at mac-access-ow...@mac-access.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mac-Access digest... ___ This is the daily digest of messages posted to the Mac-Access E-Mail forum. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test! (Sarah Alawami) 2. Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test! (Courtney Curran) 3. Re: Have any of you used this app? (Diane Bomar) 4. Re: My Thoughts on the Mac Accessibility was RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] (Shaun Oliver) 5. Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] (Lyn her faithful furry friends) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:55:05 -0700 From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test! Message-ID: 40a6e2fe-0a5c-4527-8a84-6b2625a00...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Odd. Mine came up with an error which I sent to you over twitter. Will try it out and see if the page just made a mistake. or what ever. Tc all. On Sep 29, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work under safari six. Even though the page said that, i tried it anyway. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunitally I cannot try this as it says that the browser (safari 6) is not supported at this time but those of you using firefox nightly can tell us using safari if it works or not. Be blessed. http://skipinput.com/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 23:58:13 -0400 From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test! Message-ID: -3218708197362626193@unknownmsgid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Yes, it does work, I've used rumala before. It's a wonderful extension. Courtney Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work under safari six. Even though the page said that, i tried it anyway. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunitally I cannot try this as it says that the browser (safari
Re: i tunes question
If you mean source in the sources table interact with said table and I vo down arrow then vo backslash on the thing I want to expand for example devices or playlists. Tc. On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:10 AM, krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com wrote: hi all this is a stupid question maybe but how do i expand a sauce in i tunes thanks krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Amadeus Lite - Exporting to iPhone Ringtone
Next time try and select only 30 seconds of the piece and copy it to a new file so you can ulter it the way you want it. then save the project as an amid file or it will be called untitled. lol! After that go to file then export and I think it ail work except you will have the amid extension as well as the m4r extension. I never quite got that part. On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. I found a feature in Amadeus Lite to export a file as an iPhone ringtone. I tried this, and it sort of works, except the whole file got exported. I realize the limitation regarding iPhone ringtones in that they must be no more than 30 seconds in length. So can anyone tell me where I went wrong please? I left the Export as iPhone Ringtone settings at their defaults. Alternatively should I use an app like Fission to do this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Network analyser
I use one called net stumbler. It's vo accessable, and while it doesn't have all the features you want, it will go a long way in helping you iron out some issues with your network, since it does give info about wireless networks, and which channel they're on, whether they're protected or open, and other things as well. it's not a bad tool to have in your arsenal. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using my iphone 3gs as an external mike for my mac, is it possible?
No it is not. as far as I know anyways. it has never been possible. A shame but there you go. If I can be corrected that would be nice as I live the mic on the iPhone for conversations only. lol! On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:08 AM, matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about this yesterday, but thought I would aask about it here. Is it possible to use my iphone 3gs using ios 6 as an external mick for my mac mini? I have been using skype for ios but have had some problems ansering calls while the screan is locked. If anyone knows if this can be done let me know how to do this please as I would like to go back to using skype on my mac. my headset mike got chued up by my dog so have had to use skype for ios which is ok, but I am eating up data by doing that and my wify router has not been working correctly even though it is all connected it will not let any of my devices go out the internet. Thanks again for the help. matthew Dyer Sent from my mac mini. e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater 2004 Follow me on twitter at mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Find me on zello at graduater2004. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using my iphone 3gs as an external mike for my mac, is it possible?
I could've swore I saw an app reviewed on Main Menu that aloud you to do this. Can't find it now though. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: No it is not. as far as I know anyways. it has never been possible. A shame but there you go. If I can be corrected that would be nice as I live the mic on the iPhone for conversations only. lol! On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:08 AM, matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about this yesterday, but thought I would aask about it here. Is it possible to use my iphone 3gs using ios 6 as an external mick for my mac mini? I have been using skype for ios but have had some problems ansering calls while the screan is locked. If anyone knows if this can be done let me know how to do this please as I would like to go back to using skype on my mac. my headset mike got chued up by my dog so have had to use skype for ios which is ok, but I am eating up data by doing that and my wify router has not been working correctly even though it is all connected it will not let any of my devices go out the internet. Thanks again for the help. matthew Dyer Sent from my mac mini. e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater 2004 Follow me on twitter at mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Find me on zello at graduater2004. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
I've recently been spending buckets of time learning to use various access tools that are new to me on several platforms, including Windows and Android. This is a requirement for the internship I'm fortunate to have with my University's Disabilities Services office, and while I must confess I am enjoying learning to use these other tools, at the end of the day when I crack open my MBA, fire up Alex, and set about using the applications and VO navigation with which I have become so familiar, it feels like I've settled into a comfy old sofa with a good friend. Cheers, -Bryan On Sep 29, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello John, Will and all As somebody with vision looking in, so to speak, I frequently find it astonishing when I hear people criticising what Apple is doing with --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
look tell money reader.
Hi does the Look tell money reader app work with the IPod touch as my friend just bought it. Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Helo Missy Did you know that you can modify the pronunciations with the Acapela Group InfoVox voices? Look in your /applications folder and you'll find the tool to do this. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 16:54, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems we are having. Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the other platform. Take care all, Lyn, Canelle Epi On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Re: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 883, Issue 3
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RE: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
Hi! I'm aware of the tool; have just never had any luck getting it to work. For example, I hate that it says ape or a p p for an application, depending on the voice. No matter what I do, I can't get it to simply say app the way alex does. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:24 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] Helo Missy Did you know that you can modify the pronunciations with the Acapela Group InfoVox voices? Look in your /applications folder and you'll find the tool to do this. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 16:54, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better. all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted
Re: Can anyone advise me about Protools please?
I would refer you to the midimag list as they have more knowledge on protools and how to buy it. There are about 3 or 400 people on there all musicians, and some of them using pt. http://midimag.org that is if no one knows the answer on this particular list. $500 for an update? Woofta is all I have to say on that. wowza! Be blessed. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:17 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: I have been trying to buy Protools and I am finding some very big differences in the price. I have found a Protools 10 student version for £215 and some other versions for about £550. The trouble is, one of the £500 was an update, which sounds very expenssive for an update. I really would like to get Protools and would be very glad of any help please. Thank you, Trevor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: InfoVox Voices
Hello Missy OK, there are a couple of ways you can have this done. The first is to use a string of text which would sound the way you want it. That, however, may be more problematic. The second is to use fonems which require a bit more figuring out. You can, however, find a full list of fonems in the help documentation. If you think this is worth while, I am sure that the AssistivrWare people would help you. They are very friendly and helpful people. Just contact supp...@assistiveware.com and let them know what it is you're having problems with. If you still cannot get this sorted or if you cannot contact them for some reason, perhaps we could help you. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm aware of the tool; have just never had any luck getting it to work. For example, I hate that it says ape or a p p for an application, depending on the voice. No matter what I do, I can't get it to simply say app the way alex does. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:24 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] Helo Missy Did you know that you can modify the pronunciations with the Acapela Group InfoVox voices? Look in your /applications folder and you'll find the tool to do this. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 16:54, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I am greatful for all this as well. On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn her faithful furry friends
Re: look tell money reader.
Depends. Does the iPod touch have a camera on it and if so how good is the camera and does it need a lot of light? Good luck. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi does the Look tell money reader app work with the IPod touch as my friend just bought it. Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: InfoVox Voices
Oopse! Forgot to change accounts, sorry. On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:39, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Missy OK, there are a couple of ways you can have this done. The first is to use a string of text which would sound the way you want it. That, however, may be more problematic. The second is to use fonems which require a bit more figuring out. You can, however, find a full list of fonems in the help documentation. If you think this is worth while, I am sure that the AssistivrWare people would help you. They are very friendly and helpful people. Just contact supp...@assistiveware.com and let them know what it is you're having problems with. If you still cannot get this sorted or if you cannot contact them for some reason, perhaps we could help you. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm aware of the tool; have just never had any luck getting it to work. For example, I hate that it says ape or a p p for an application, depending on the voice. No matter what I do, I can't get it to simply say app the way alex does. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:24 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] Helo Missy Did you know that you can modify the pronunciations with the Acapela Group InfoVox voices? Look in your /applications folder and you'll find the tool to do this. Lynne On 30 Sep 2012, at 16:54, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbieyui...@bigpond.com wrote: Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you can still understand it quite well. I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. Debbie -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this] just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris
Re: Can anyone advise me about Protools please?
Thanks Sarah, I have taken your advice and asked on midimag. I know there are a few people who use Protools on there but, I thought there may be one or two on here. Thanks, Trevor On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:39, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I would refer you to the midimag list as they have more knowledge on protools and how to buy it. There are about 3 or 400 people on there all musicians, and some of them using pt. http://midimag.org that is if no one knows the answer on this particular list. $500 for an update? Woofta is all I have to say on that. wowza! Be blessed. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:17 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: I have been trying to buy Protools and I am finding some very big differences in the price. I have found a Protools 10 student version for £215 and some other versions for about £550. The trouble is, one of the £500 was an update, which sounds very expenssive for an update. I really would like to get Protools and would be very glad of any help please. Thank you, Trevor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: look tell money reader.
Yes it does but the camera on the iPod Touch 4 is inferior compared to the iPhone. However it can be done if there is sufficient lighting. Hopefully this will be resolved when the iPod Touch 5 is available. On 30/09/2012 18:16, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi does the Look tell money reader app work with the IPod touch as my friend just bought it. Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Can anyone advise me about Protools please?
Let's hope so as well, but you never know. Keep us posted on what advice you get.. Be blessed. On Sep 30, 2012, at 11:43 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: Thanks Sarah, I have taken your advice and asked on midimag. I know there are a few people who use Protools on there but, I thought there may be one or two on here. Thanks, Trevor On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:39, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I would refer you to the midimag list as they have more knowledge on protools and how to buy it. There are about 3 or 400 people on there all musicians, and some of them using pt. http://midimag.org that is if no one knows the answer on this particular list. $500 for an update? Woofta is all I have to say on that. wowza! Be blessed. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:17 AM, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote: I have been trying to buy Protools and I am finding some very big differences in the price. I have found a Protools 10 student version for £215 and some other versions for about £550. The trouble is, one of the £500 was an update, which sounds very expenssive for an update. I really would like to get Protools and would be very glad of any help please. Thank you, Trevor --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
osx 10.8.1 opensource release
For those who follow such things, and for those who are interested. Apple has posted the opensource components of osx 10.8.1 at the following url. http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-1081/ Hope there's someone here who is interested in such things. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: look tell money reader.
The iPod touch 5 is already out as far as I'm aware On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does but the camera on the iPod Touch 4 is inferior compared to the iPhone. However it can be done if there is sufficient lighting. Hopefully this will be resolved when the iPod Touch 5 is available. On 30/09/2012 18:16, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi does the Look tell money reader app work with the IPod touch as my friend just bought it. Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: osx 10.8.1 opensource release
The curiosity bug is biting me. I can't code but would would be the purpose of this move by apple? Askign in case anyone else has questions like that. Good luck. On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: For those who follow such things, and for those who are interested. Apple has posted the opensource components of osx 10.8.1 at the following url. http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-1081/ Hope there's someone here who is interested in such things. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: osx 10.8.1 opensource release
Well, if it uses open-source to create the OS, then they would have to as for the terms of Open Source. I think the Apple OS is built on Unix, as is Linux. So it may be very much like Linux, which I think is the case. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: osx 10.8.1 opensource release The curiosity bug is biting me. I can't code but would would be the purpose of this move by apple? Askign in case anyone else has questions like that. Good luck. On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: For those who follow such things, and for those who are interested. Apple has posted the opensource components of osx 10.8.1 at the following url. http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-1081/ Hope there's someone here who is interested in such things. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!
lol. Ok question. I got the extension installed but how do I get it to fill out a captcha for me. I have my screen at 100 percent in case that is needed but there is no help on the page on how to use it, or at least I didn't see it. Can you give me a hint on how to use it as I'm rolling out a page with a captcha on it. lol! Good luck. On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes, it does work, I've used rumala before. It's a wonderful extension. Courtney Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work under safari six. Even though the page said that, i tried it anyway. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunitally I cannot try this as it says that the browser (safari 6) is not supported at this time but those of you using firefox nightly can tell us using safari if it works or not. Be blessed. http://skipinput.com/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!
well too bad it is not free. I mean the catcha solving service is not free. I'd rather stick with webvisum for now on my netbook whenever I need to have catcha solved. I think it is not fair to pay for something everyone else can get for free. Accessibility of websites is a right and I don't see why I should pay for accessibility so until Firefox is available on the mac, I'll dig out my netbook whenever I need to solve these nasty catchas or I'll simply do this on my computer at work. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: lol. Ok question. I got the extension installed but how do I get it to fill out a captcha for me. I have my screen at 100 percent in case that is needed but there is no help on the page on how to use it, or at least I didn't see it. Can you give me a hint on how to use it as I'm rolling out a page with a captcha on it. lol! Good luck. On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes, it does work, I've used rumala before. It's a wonderful extension. Courtney Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work under safari six. Even though the page said that, i tried it anyway. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunitally I cannot try this as it says that the browser (safari 6) is not supported at this time but those of you using firefox nightly can tell us using safari if it works or not. Be blessed. http://skipinput.com/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details,
Example of Mountain Lion mail forwarding problem..
Below is an example of what happens when I try to forward messages in mail under Mountain Lion. I've tried turning off several settings in the compose tab with no luck but I'm not well knolaged when it comes to email. Any help appreciated. Danny: Begin forwarded message: From: Esther mori...@mac-access.net Subject: Accessibile HTML versions of the iPhone User's Guide for iOS 6 Date: 29 September 2012 11:24:18 AM AEST To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Reply-To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Return-Path: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net X-Original-To: da...@familynoonan.net X-Original-To: mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk Delivered-To: x11237...@homiemail-mx21.g.dreamhost.com Delivered-To: mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [109.224.207.178]) by homiemail-mx21.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB526F429B for da...@familynoonan.net; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6C3EC667D; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I9c9Vb8ABFgg; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74CEC65F1; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30E8EC65D1 for mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xBsqjOW6ySDE for mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (unknown [75.93.118.77]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC57CEC65C4 for mac-access@mac-access.net; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:24 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.tft-bbs.co.uk X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.tft-bbs.co.uk Message-Id: ac6f1e92-b424-4523-abb0-865d82f16...@mac-access.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Beenthere: mac-access@mac-access.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access.mac-access.net List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/options/mac-access, mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access List-Post: mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net List-Help: mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access, mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net Sender: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net Hi All, HTML versions of the iPhone User's Guide for iOS 6 are available from: http://help.apple.com/iphone/6/en.lproj/ You can also find versions of this user guide in iBooks: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/iphone-user-guide-for-ios-6/id563272542 For international users, HTML versions of the iPhone User's Guide in other languages can be obtained by changing the two-letter code at the end of the URL from en for English to the code for the language you want. For example, for a version of the user guide in French, the e n gets changed to f r, so delete the last string of en.lproj/ and replace this with fr.lproj: http://help.apple.com/iphone/6/fr.lproj/ Here's the list of codes from the Apple Developer's documentation. The iPhone User's Guide is not available in all languages, but a great many are covered. I've also posted this as a comment under the Easy Access to the iOS Manual entry under the Guides section of the AppleVis web site. 0. English en 1. French fr 2. German de 3. Italian it 4. Dutch nl 5. Swedish sv 6. Spanish es 7. Danish da 8. Portuguese pt 9. Norwegian nb 10. Hebrew he 11. Japanese ja 12. Arabic ar 13. Finnish fi 14. Greek el 15. Icelandic is 16. Maltese mt 17. Turkish tr 18. Croatian hr 19. Chinese zh 20. Urdu ur 21. Hindi hi 22. Thai th 23. Korean ko 24. Lithuanian lt 25. Polish pl 26. Hungarian hu 27. Estonian et 28. Latvian lv 29. Sami se 30. Faroese fo 31. Farsi fa 32. Russian ru 33. Chinese zh 34. Dutch nl 35. Irish ga 36. Albanian sq 37. Romanian ro 38. Czech cs 39. Slovak sk 40. Slovenian sl 41. Yiddish yi 42. Serbian sr 43. Macedonian mk 44. Bulgarian bg 45. Ukrainian uk 46. Byelorussian be 47. Uzbek uz 48. Kazakh kk 49. Azerbaijani az 50. Azerbaijani az 51. Armenian hy 52. Georgian ka 53. Moldavian mo 54. Kirghiz ky 55. Tajiki tg 56. Turkmen tk 57. Mongolian mn 58. Mongolian mn 59. Pashto ps 60. Kurdish ku 61. Kashmiri ks 62. Sindhi sd 63. Tibetan bo 64. Nepali ne 65.
Re: voices on i devices was Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was so wish apple had done this]
i like alex he is so cool smiley krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com On 01/10/2012, at 1:50 AM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote: Alex eats a lot of memory and cpu power. Because of this, it would not be appropriate on Idevices, because they are low memory/low cpu products. I'm not talking about the 16/32GB they talk about when selling the devices, this is storge, not usable program memory. Alex is large, because it's the most human sounding voice, and as a result, it eats a lot of resources to get this quality. Lower quality means smaller memory footprint, thus no alex on idevices. Perhaps in future, it will be ported, when speech algorithms get better, but for now, I wouldn't expect to see alex on iphone/ipad anytime soon. Besides, the voices it already has are (imo) quite good, and they've been optimized for device usage, and do a decent job. I don't even use alex on my pmac, because it eats too many resources I prefer to leave open for other processes, but that's why apple provides different voices, everyone can choose whichever voice works best for them. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Can anyone advise me about Protools please?
Ah thanks. another tool to keep under my belt when I have to use pt on the job. Will bookmark this. On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Trevor, There's a ptaccess list at Googlegroups that Bryan Smart started, I think, specifically for the discussion of Protools accessibility issues on Macs. You can read and search their posts on the Mail Archive site for information about Protools: http://www.mail-archive.com/ptaccess@googlegroups.com/ You can also use their main Googlegroups web site, which should contain more information about that list: http://groups.google.com/group/ptaccess?hl=en HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Example of Mountain Lion mail forwarding problem..
Wo! Are you saying all of those headers appear? that has never happened to me. when I forward a message to mom or dad or what not.. That looks horrible! On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: Below is an example of what happens when I try to forward messages in mail under Mountain Lion. I've tried turning off several settings in the compose tab with no luck but I'm not well knolaged when it comes to email. Any help appreciated. Danny: Begin forwarded message: From: Esther mori...@mac-access.net Subject: Accessibile HTML versions of the iPhone User's Guide for iOS 6 Date: 29 September 2012 11:24:18 AM AEST To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Reply-To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Return-Path: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net X-Original-To: da...@familynoonan.net X-Original-To: mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk Delivered-To: x11237...@homiemail-mx21.g.dreamhost.com Delivered-To: mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [109.224.207.178]) by homiemail-mx21.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB526F429B for da...@familynoonan.net; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6C3EC667D; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I9c9Vb8ABFgg; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74CEC65F1; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30E8EC65D1 for mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xBsqjOW6ySDE for mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (unknown [75.93.118.77]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC57CEC65C4 for mac-access@mac-access.net; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:24 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.tft-bbs.co.uk X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.tft-bbs.co.uk Message-Id: ac6f1e92-b424-4523-abb0-865d82f16...@mac-access.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Beenthere: mac-access@mac-access.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access.mac-access.net List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/options/mac-access, mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access List-Post: mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net List-Help: mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access, mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net Sender: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net Hi All, HTML versions of the iPhone User's Guide for iOS 6 are available from: http://help.apple.com/iphone/6/en.lproj/ You can also find versions of this user guide in iBooks: http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/iphone-user-guide-for-ios-6/id563272542 For international users, HTML versions of the iPhone User's Guide in other languages can be obtained by changing the two-letter code at the end of the URL from en for English to the code for the language you want. For example, for a version of the user guide in French, the e n gets changed to f r, so delete the last string of en.lproj/ and replace this with fr.lproj: http://help.apple.com/iphone/6/fr.lproj/ Here's the list of codes from the Apple Developer's documentation. The iPhone User's Guide is not available in all languages, but a great many are covered. I've also posted this as a comment under the Easy Access to the iOS Manual entry under the Guides section of the AppleVis web site. 0. English en 1. French fr 2. German de 3. Italian it 4. Dutch nl 5. Swedish sv 6. Spanish es 7. Danish da 8. Portuguese pt 9. Norwegian nb 10. Hebrew he 11. Japanese ja 12. Arabic ar 13. Finnish fi 14. Greek el 15. Icelandic is 16. Maltese mt 17. Turkish tr 18. Croatian hr 19. Chinese zh 20. Urdu ur 21. Hindi hi 22. Thai th 23. Korean ko 24. Lithuanian lt 25. Polish pl 26. Hungarian hu 27. Estonian et 28. Latvian lv 29. Sami se 30. Faroese fo 31. Farsi fa 32. Russian ru 33. Chinese zh 34. Dutch nl 35. Irish ga 36. Albanian sq 37. Romanian ro 38. Czech cs 39. Slovak sk 40. Slovenian sl 41. Yiddish yi 42. Serbian sr
Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!
Actually when I tried it out it was faster then webvisum. This filed in the captcha field in about 5 seconds. I registered with a forum on it and it worked like a charm. and as for webvisum being free it is, how ever now there's a donate screen that pops up every once in a while. I think this is to cover site maintenance and so forth. but yeah this service is quite good. On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Lyn her faithful furry friends helian...@mac-access.net wrote: well too bad it is not free. I mean the catcha solving service is not free. I'd rather stick with webvisum for now on my netbook whenever I need to have catcha solved. I think it is not fair to pay for something everyone else can get for free. Accessibility of websites is a right and I don't see why I should pay for accessibility so until Firefox is available on the mac, I'll dig out my netbook whenever I need to solve these nasty catchas or I'll simply do this on my computer at work. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: lol. Ok question. I got the extension installed but how do I get it to fill out a captcha for me. I have my screen at 100 percent in case that is needed but there is no help on the page on how to use it, or at least I didn't see it. Can you give me a hint on how to use it as I'm rolling out a page with a captcha on it. lol! Good luck. On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes, it does work, I've used rumala before. It's a wonderful extension. Courtney Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work under safari six. Even though the page said that, i tried it anyway. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunitally I cannot try this as it says that the browser (safari 6) is not supported at this time but those of you using firefox nightly can tell us using safari if it works or not. Be blessed. http://skipinput.com/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is
Re: look tell money reader.
No not until some time in October. On 30/09/2012 21:02, Lyn her faithful furry friends wrote: The iPod touch 5 is already out as far as I'm aware On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does but the camera on the iPod Touch 4 is inferior compared to the iPhone. However it can be done if there is sufficient lighting. Hopefully this will be resolved when the iPod Touch 5 is available. On 30/09/2012 18:16, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi does the Look tell money reader app work with the IPod touch as my friend just bought it. Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ** You can contact me in the following ways: email: helian...@mac-access.net mickymac2...@me.com msn iMessage lyn.bordeau...@gmail.com skype: micky-mac2010 facebook: www.facebook.com/lyn.bordeaux33 Please say who you are if asking to share details, thank you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using my iphone 3gs as an external mike for my mac, is it possible?
Hi Orin and Others, You may have been thinking about the Dragon Remote Microphone application that allows you to use an iPhone/iPod/iPad or an Android device as a remote mic for the Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognitions software. This feature was written into both the desktop application and the iOS (or Android) app, which is why it works, and is specific to that application. I don't think this will work for the iPhone 3GS -- only later model devices. Here's the link to the Nuance web page that describes the requirements: • Using the Dragon Remote Microphone application with Dragon NaturallySpeaking (Answer ID 6294) http://nuance.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6294/ Matthew, there's a way to connect your iOS device so that it shares the internet connection from your computer by turning your Mac into a Software base station (described in appendix C of the Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network eBook), but it requires that your Mac have an ethernet, firewire, or some other non-Wi-Fi network connection working to access the internet. Then you create a local ad hoc network using your Airport wireless device (by navigating to Airport on your status menu bar) and arrow down to select Create network… in place of selecting your local Wi-Fi network. There are some more sharing configuration details you have to set up in System Preferences to allow this, but basically you have your Mac connected to the internet through the wired ethernet connection, and you use the Airport Wi-Fi in your Mac to create a small, ad hoc wireless network that your iOS device or another computer with wi-fi in your immediate vicinity can connect to. I did this when I first got my iPod Touch, and wanted to use it in a location where I had my laptop with only ethernet connections to locate nearby points of interest via Wi-Fi. However, if you're having difficulty using your router, this doesn't sound like a solution for you. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 30, 2012, at 07:04, Orin wrote: I could've swore I saw an app reviewed on Main Menu that aloud you to do this. Can't find it now though. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: No it is not. as far as I know anyways. it has never been possible. A shame but there you go. If I can be corrected that would be nice as I live the mic on the iPhone for conversations only. lol! On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:08 AM, matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about this yesterday, but thought I would aask about it here. Is it possible to use my iphone 3gs using ios 6 as an external mick for my mac mini? I have been using skype for ios but have had some problems ansering calls while the screan is locked. If anyone knows if this can be done let me know how to do this please as I would like to go back to using skype on my mac. my headset mike got chued up by my dog so have had to use skype for ios which is ok, but I am eating up data by doing that and my wify router has not been working correctly even though it is all connected it will not let any of my devices go out the internet. Thanks again for the help. matthew Dyer Sent from my mac mini. e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater 2004 Follow me on twitter at mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Find me on zello at graduater2004. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Hiding message contents table in Lion?
Hi everyone. Please is there any way of hiding the message contents table in Lion? I am doing those things that someone posted to this list, and it is not working! I am navigating to the horizontal splitter after the message table, pressing VO command f5 to route the mouse, then VO shift space to perform 2 clicks. Thanks! Any help appreciated. Gary Price. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!
So you do have to pay for it? Thats... dumb. It's free on windows. I agree with Lynn and Gordon and everybody else. Sighted people can use their eyes, which are free, and just because we have visual disabilities we have to pay. sorry, but no dice, and not fair. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!
yeah but it's way better then the zcaptcha thing. and it's also for sighted people as well so they would have to pay to use it. If you were in a office and you had to solve captchas quickly on sites like for submitting plans and you had to do it yesterday you would pay for something that's speedy quick. and at I think it's 99 cents for 50 captchas that don't' expire for 1 year that's groovy cool to me. On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: So you do have to pay for it? Thats... dumb. It's free on windows. I agree with Lynn and Gordon and everybody else. Sighted people can use their eyes, which are free, and just because we have visual disabilities we have to pay. sorry, but no dice, and not fair. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Hiding message contents table in Lion?
Actually I click the mouse twice, and that's the physical mouse. not the vo shift space thing. Try that instead when you redo the steps. On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:15 PM, gary price gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. Please is there any way of hiding the message contents table in Lion? I am doing those things that someone posted to this list, and it is not working! I am navigating to the horizontal splitter after the message table, pressing VO command f5 to route the mouse, then VO shift space to perform 2 clicks. Thanks! Any help appreciated. Gary Price. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!
Also, for those complaining about payment, it's like, a dollar 99 for 150 credits. Also, this thing is ten times more accurate than webvisum at times. Also, it's for sighted people so they also pay for it. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually when I tried it out it was faster then webvisum. This filed in the captcha field in about 5 seconds. I registered with a forum on it and it worked like a charm. and as for webvisum being free it is, how ever now there's a donate screen that pops up every once in a while. I think this is to cover site maintenance and so forth. but yeah this service is quite good. On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Lyn her faithful furry friends helian...@mac-access.net wrote: well too bad it is not free. I mean the catcha solving service is not free. I'd rather stick with webvisum for now on my netbook whenever I need to have catcha solved. I think it is not fair to pay for something everyone else can get for free. Accessibility of websites is a right and I don't see why I should pay for accessibility so until Firefox is available on the mac, I'll dig out my netbook whenever I need to solve these nasty catchas or I'll simply do this on my computer at work. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: lol. Ok question. I got the extension installed but how do I get it to fill out a captcha for me. I have my screen at 100 percent in case that is needed but there is no help on the page on how to use it, or at least I didn't see it. Can you give me a hint on how to use it as I'm rolling out a page with a captcha on it. lol! Good luck. On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes, it does work, I've used rumala before. It's a wonderful extension. Courtney Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work under safari six. Even though the page said that, i tried it anyway. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunitally I cannot try this as it says that the browser (safari 6) is not supported at this time but those of you using firefox nightly can tell us using safari if it works or not. Be blessed. http://skipinput.com/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages
Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!
lol. Hehahahaha. I just said that, but not so brief. I should add it takes a bit of getting used to as well. but so far I like it. the only thing I don't like is I have to start filling out the form to get it to work. but I guess that works. Good luck. On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Also, for those complaining about payment, it's like, a dollar 99 for 150 credits. Also, this thing is ten times more accurate than webvisum at times. Also, it's for sighted people so they also pay for it. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually when I tried it out it was faster then webvisum. This filed in the captcha field in about 5 seconds. I registered with a forum on it and it worked like a charm. and as for webvisum being free it is, how ever now there's a donate screen that pops up every once in a while. I think this is to cover site maintenance and so forth. but yeah this service is quite good. On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Lyn her faithful furry friends helian...@mac-access.net wrote: well too bad it is not free. I mean the catcha solving service is not free. I'd rather stick with webvisum for now on my netbook whenever I need to have catcha solved. I think it is not fair to pay for something everyone else can get for free. Accessibility of websites is a right and I don't see why I should pay for accessibility so until Firefox is available on the mac, I'll dig out my netbook whenever I need to solve these nasty catchas or I'll simply do this on my computer at work. On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: lol. Ok question. I got the extension installed but how do I get it to fill out a captcha for me. I have my screen at 100 percent in case that is needed but there is no help on the page on how to use it, or at least I didn't see it. Can you give me a hint on how to use it as I'm rolling out a page with a captcha on it. lol! Good luck. On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes, it does work, I've used rumala before. It's a wonderful extension. Courtney Sent from my iPad On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it does work under safari six. Even though the page said that, i tried it anyway. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunitally I cannot try this as it says that the browser (safari 6) is not supported at this time but those of you using firefox nightly can tell us using safari if it works or not. Be blessed. http://skipinput.com/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please
Re: Hiding message contents table in Lion?
Hi Gary, Sarah's correct: in Lion you need to do a physical mouse click after routing your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor on the horizontal splitter. VoiceOver's software equivalent of a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space) doesn't work here. Since you're using a MacBook you can press your trackpad twice quickly in succession to do the double click. I perform a hardware double-click by placing my right hand on the flat area beside the trackpad, and then using a thumb or forefinger to double click. I prefer to do the double clicks on my keyboard, so I have set up my Mac so I can toggle mouse keys on or off by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly. With this setting, which you can enable in System Preferences Universal Access under the Mouse Trackpad tab by checking the box for Press the Option key five times to turn Mouse Keys on or off, you can simply double tap the i key when focused on the horizontal splitter to double click and close the Preview pane in mail. Then press the Option key again 5 times to turn mouse keys off again, so that you'll be able to use your keyboard normally. Mouse keys is normally turned on so that you can move your cursor on the screen up, down, left, right, or diagonally, by pressing the keys above, below, to the left, to the right, or diagonally positioned around the 5 key of a numeric keypad. On laptops that position is occupied by the i key (where the embedded numeric keyboard 5 key used to be). You can also click a t the current mouse position by tapping the i key, and set up Verbosity under VoiceOver Utility so that VO announces announces what is under the mouse cursor with no delay. This helps in some accessibility situations, because you you can move your mouse cursor across the screen with a sequence of key presses (1 pixel per press) using mouse keys when this is enabled, and have VoiceOver tell you what is under your mouse cursor. Then, when you reach a control that VoiceOver can read out, even if there are no hooks to move there with regular navigation shortcuts, you can click it by pressing the 5 key (on full-sized keyboard with a numeric keypad or on an attached USB or wireless/bluetooth numpad) or the i key (on a laptop). The only caveat is that mouse keys and Numpad commander should not both be turned on at the same time, since they have conflicting definitions for the numeric keypad actions. HTH. The software double click (with VO-Shift-Space) used to work to drop the horizontal splitter and close the mail Preview pane in earlier versions of Mac OS X, but it doesn't work for Lion and later. Using the trackpad to double click or turning mouse keys on and double tapping with the i key on your Mac laptop will work for this. Cheers, Esther On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Actually I click the mouse twice, and that's the physical mouse. not the vo shift space thing. Try that instead when you redo the steps. On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:15 PM, gary price gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. Please is there any way of hiding the message contents table in Lion? I am doing those things that someone posted to this list, and it is not working! I am navigating to the horizontal splitter after the message table, pressing VO command f5 to route the mouse, then VO shift space to perform 2 clicks. Thanks! Any help appreciated. Gary Price. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
learning ally troubles again
Well it's happened again. learning ally was working under lion, well sort of, but this time it hardly and barely works under ML.Here is a file I did. it's also a screen recording but that is not uploaded yet. http://goo.gl/Z985q I really don't know why they have not fixed it as of april of this year. I've been telling them now since then and they just tell me to say good things to them. Well not when I can't even view my book shelf or switch players, or even try and grab the player for mac. They must fix this if I am to be a happy college textbook reading person. Good luck all. and if someone could please give me some tips to go through this I'll be a happy camper especially since I have a chapter due in about 3 hours. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Photo Booth help
Hey all, Just curios how to take a picture in Photo Booth? I open the app, there's an option that says take picture, it's not dimbed but it never works. All I want to do is take a photo of myself to update my long overdue Facebook profile picture. Is Photo Booth the easiest to do that or is iPhoto easier? also, is there a way to sync iPhone photos that you can take via the Camera app and bring them to your Mac? That'd be ideal actually. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Photo Booth help
With the iPhone, you can set up the borders in the camera settings, and it will tell you when your face is centered. If you have an app like DropPic I think it called, or maybe just DropBox, you can set it to sync your photos onto your computer automatically, so you don't need to get them through iTunes. Glenn - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:11 PM Subject: Photo Booth help Hey all, Just curios how to take a picture in Photo Booth? I open the app, there's an option that says take picture, it's not dimbed but it never works. All I want to do is take a photo of myself to update my long overdue Facebook profile picture. Is Photo Booth the easiest to do that or is iPhoto easier? also, is there a way to sync iPhone photos that you can take via the Camera app and bring them to your Mac? That'd be ideal actually. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Using my iphone 3gs as an external mike for my mac, is it possible?
Hi, I do have my mac set up dirrectly to the modem from my isp. Can you give me the steps to do this please? Does the phone need to be connected to the computer for it to work Thanks. matthew Dyer Sent from my mac mini. e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater 2004 Follow me on twitter at mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Find me on zello at graduater2004. On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Orin and Others, You may have been thinking about the Dragon Remote Microphone application that allows you to use an iPhone/iPod/iPad or an Android device as a remote mic for the Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognitions software. This feature was written into both the desktop application and the iOS (or Android) app, which is why it works, and is specific to that application. I don't think this will work for the iPhone 3GS -- only later model devices. Here's the link to the Nuance web page that describes the requirements: • Using the Dragon Remote Microphone application with Dragon NaturallySpeaking (Answer ID 6294) http://nuance.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6294/ Matthew, there's a way to connect your iOS device so that it shares the internet connection from your computer by turning your Mac into a Software base station (described in appendix C of the Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort Network eBook), but it requires that your Mac have an ethernet, firewire, or some other non-Wi-Fi network connection working to access the internet. Then you create a local ad hoc network using your Airport wireless device (by navigating to Airport on your status menu bar) and arrow down to select Create network… in place of selecting your local Wi-Fi network. There are some more sharing configuration details you have to set up in System Preferences to allow this, but basically you have your Mac connected to the internet through the wired ethernet connection, and you use the Airport Wi-Fi in your Mac to create a small, ad hoc wireless network that your iOS device or another computer with wi-fi in your immediate vicinity can connect to. I did this when I first got my iPod Touch, and wanted to use it in a location where I had my laptop with only ethernet connections to locate nearby points of interest via Wi-Fi. However, if you're having difficulty using your router, this doesn't sound like a solution for you. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 30, 2012, at 07:04, Orin wrote: I could've swore I saw an app reviewed on Main Menu that aloud you to do this. Can't find it now though. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Sep 30, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: No it is not. as far as I know anyways. it has never been possible. A shame but there you go. If I can be corrected that would be nice as I live the mic on the iPhone for conversations only. lol! On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:08 AM, matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about this yesterday, but thought I would aask about it here. Is it possible to use my iphone 3gs using ios 6 as an external mick for my mac mini? I have been using skype for ios but have had some problems ansering calls while the screan is locked. If anyone knows if this can be done let me know how to do this please as I would like to go back to using skype on my mac. my headset mike got chued up by my dog so have had to use skype for ios which is ok, but I am eating up data by doing that and my wify router has not been working correctly even though it is all connected it will not let any of my devices go out the internet. Thanks again for the help. matthew Dyer Sent from my mac mini. e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater 2004 Follow me on twitter at mdyer1. Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Find me on zello at graduater2004. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access
VPN Service on the MAC
Hi folks: I have just purchased a VPN Service called witopia; I could easily set it up on the IPhone just following the steps given but can not set it up on the MAC. Has anyone used this or any other VPN Service on the mac? If so, can you help me to set this up? Cheers. Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigue...@hotmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Photo Booth help
For your last question if you have it set up photo stream in iPhoto and it will synch. You have to enable it under iCloud as well as iPhoto but it will work as I use this to import screen shots. On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Just curios how to take a picture in Photo Booth? I open the app, there's an option that says take picture, it's not dimbed but it never works. All I want to do is take a photo of myself to update my long overdue Facebook profile picture. Is Photo Booth the easiest to do that or is iPhoto easier? also, is there a way to sync iPhone photos that you can take via the Camera app and bring them to your Mac? That'd be ideal actually. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Can anyone advise me about Protools please?
Excellent! Thanks very much for this Esther, I'm sure it will be very useful. Thank you, Trevor On 30 Sep 2012, at 22:12, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Trevor, There's a ptaccess list at Googlegroups that Bryan Smart started, I think, specifically for the discussion of Protools accessibility issues on Macs. You can read and search their posts on the Mail Archive site for information about Protools: http://www.mail-archive.com/ptaccess@googlegroups.com/ You can also use their main Googlegroups web site, which should contain more information about that list: http://groups.google.com/group/ptaccess?hl=en HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
