Re: anyone see any improvements in latest itunes?
i dn't even see a song tables anymore in my itunes On 23 Sep 2009, at 04:24, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I just updated to the new version of iTunes, 9.1 I think it is. I don't see any improvements in accessibility; there are still the same focus issues with the column browser, and the songs table in the iTunes store is just as hard to navigate as before. Does anyone else see any improvements over the previous iTunes 9? Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Keyboard and Character Palette options [was Re: Typing special characters]
Hi Lindsay, Simon has answered your question about some Unicode combinations. For non-English languages, it is possible to deal with the issue of typing special characters by switching to another input language keyboard. Alternatively, for accents and more common special characters, using the Option key in combination with the Control, Command, and Shift keys give many of the necessary characters. If I need to type special characters as part of names, I'll use the Option key method to generate accents: acute accent - Option-e grave accent - Option-accent sign (on an Engish input keyboard, this is the leftmost key below escape and above tab) circumflex accent - Option-i diaeresis - Option-u tilde - Option-n This group are dead keys. You need to type the accented letter after the Option+letter combination, so to type an e with an acute accent you press the Option+e keys, release, and then type the letter e. If your press Return without typing a letter, you simply get the accent mark. Other accents that are closely associated with particular letters are not dead keys; pressing the two key combination generates the special character: German eszett or sharp ess - Option-s Nordic slashed o - Option-o C with cedilla - Option-c oe ligature - Option-q For other special characters, the Mac provides a tool called the Character Palette. Although I use this, it is far less convenient than using modified keyboard inputs, so this was the incentive for figuring out ways to type common symbols without reverting to the Character Palette. What you would have to do to use the Character Palette is to open TextEdit and go to the Edit menu on the menu bar (VO-M, press E, and arrow down) and press s p quickly or use your arrow keys to navigate to the Special Characters menu option. I can describe how to use this, but I really think there may be better options, because the problem that I find using the Character Palette is that it's overkill -- there are too many options to easily use this mode for regular text entry. You don't just get the main IPA phonetic symbols, but absolutely every accented variety mingled into the same table that you have to navigate through. Your best shot is to go through and figure out the ones you'll really want, and save them as favorites, but you could just about use your web site and copy the characters into a personalized text file. (I assume you are going to: http://ipa.typeit.org/ to Type IPA symbols online.) A better alternative solution is to look for an input keyboard devised for IPA entry. I'm not a linguistics major, but my first reaction is that nobody who wanted to work efficiently with phonetic character input on a Mac would use the Character Palette on a regular basis. So I ran a Google search on Mac IPA keyboard, and sure enough there are pages that encode special IPA keyboards for the Mac. There are software tools that allow you to customize and add keyboards to your Mac. Then you can switch keyboards just as though you were switching to a different input language keyboard on your menu bar, and even define a shortcut sequence to use your alternate keyboard. Here's a page called IPA SIL keyboards for Mac OS X: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/SCRIPTs/page.php?site_id=nrsiitem_id=ipa-sil_keyboard I would take a look at this web page and the top level home page for links on using IPA fonts, and then try installing this keyboard. (Apparently, documentation on how to install the keyboard is included with the download files). There's also a site called: Using IPA fonts with Mac OS X: The Comprehensive Guide http://linguisticmystic.com/2007/03/08/using-ipa-fonts-with-mac-os-x-the-comprehensive-guide/ that came up as the second item on my Google Search. This looks like a good starting point for general information on using IPA fonts on the Mac, where you can go to get them (including the first linked site), how you install things, etc. Finally, as another alternative, you can try using TeX (through the TeXShop software interface), as Justin suggested. This word processor will certainly handle any special characters you throw at it -- it is multi-lingual, multi-platform, and accessible on the Mac, and linguistics folks are one of the groups that end up using this to handle the special characters. The main drawback is that there's a steep learning curve. Unless you're working in a field where this commonly used and perhaps even required for publishing professional papers, it's hard to get started and find answers for your special uses. Most fields will have specialized style files and packages that make using TeX simple for people using similar templates. What's hard is starting from scratch with no local expertise to draw upon. The installation and setup of the software isn't hard. HTH. Cheers, Esther Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: Hi Simon and
audio books in mp3 format?
hey guys I have an audio book in mp3 format that someone sent me. I imported it into iTunes and it shows up with all my other music. is there a way to put it with my other audio books? all the ones I get from audible show up in the audio books playlist and I want this one to show up there too. also, is there a way to have my mac and iPod remember my place in the book like it does with the audible ones? thanks. Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: audio books in mp3 format?
Hi, To have your mp3 audiobook show up under audiobooks instead of music, select all tracks and use Get Info (Command-I) to edit. iTunes will ask whether you really want to edit multiple tracks. Just press return to indicate that you do. In the Multple Item information window, VO- Right arrow to the Options tab and press (VO-Space). Then navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Media Kind and change this from Music to Audiobook (VO-Space and use your arrow keys). Next, navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Remember Position and change this from No to Yes. This will remember your place in the track. Finally, navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Skip when shuffling and change this from No to Yes. This will omit your audiobook tracks from random shuffle play. Press return (or navigate to the OK button and press it with VO-Space) to commit your changes. The tracks should vanish from the Music library and reappear under Audiobooks. Finally, make up a smart playlist to play your book. I'm assuming that your mp3 files are tagged to identify the book in the album title and that the individual tracks are also tagged and ordered. Either find the Make Smart Playlist menu option from the File menu on the iTunes menu bar or use the shortcut, Command-Option- N. Navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the rules section and interact (VO- Shift-Down Arrow). You're going to create two rules: Album contains Name of your book Play count is 0 Press (VO-Space) the first pop up button and change it from Artist to Album (by arrowing up or by quickly typing the first few letters of the keyword). VO-Right arrow past the contains pop up button to the text field and type in the album name. (You can change the pop up button for contains to is if you want an exact match, but either should work). At the end of the first rule, VO-Right arrow to the Add button and press it (VO-Space). Then VO-Right arrow to the next rule. Change the pop up button to Play Count. The remaining arguments should read is 0. Stop interacting with the rules section and VO-Right arrow to make sure that Live Updating is checked (which it should be by default), then either press return to commit your changes or VO-Right arrow to the OK button and press it with VO- Space. Then type in a name for your smart playlist. Play your audio book from your smart playlist. As each track is played, it's play count will increment to 1, and the live updating feature will cause it to drop off the smart playlist, so that the next unplayed track is always at the top of the playlist. Since iTunes remembers the position within your current track, your current position is always bookmarked. If you want to reset your play count to 0, just select all tracks and use the contextual menu in the songs table to Reset Play Count and you can reuse your smart playlist. HTH Cheers, Esther Jessi and Goldina wrote: hey guys I have an audio book in mp3 format that someone sent me. I imported it into iTunes and it shows up with all my other music. is there a way to put it with my other audio books? all the ones I get from audible show up in the audio books playlist and I want this one to show up there too. also, is there a way to have my mac and iPod remember my place in the book like it does with the audible ones? thanks. Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
links in widgets
Hi, the listen again widget for the bbc does not let one bring up the link chooser it says zero items --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: audio books in mp3 format?
Hi, Here is a little tip: •select your book under Music in iTunes •press command-I to bring up the info window •press the Option tag •set the Media type to Audiobook •set the option for remembering the playback position and press enter Your book will now appear in the Audiobook playlist and be bookmarked when you play it. Say hello from me to Goldina, and talk to you soon ;-) Take care, John André On 23. sep. 2009, at 09.57, Jessi and Goldina wrote: hey guys I have an audio book in mp3 format that someone sent me. I imported it into iTunes and it shows up with all my other music. is there a way to put it with my other audio books? all the ones I get from audible show up in the audio books playlist and I want this one to show up there too. also, is there a way to have my mac and iPod remember my place in the book like it does with the audible ones? thanks. Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
load of rubbish!
hi for those who can listen to the In Touch listen again from last night, on bbc radio 4 they are saying the IPHone is totally inaccessible why do they not give apple credit, where it is due --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: load of rubbish!
Sadly, this does seem to be the opinion of people that have not tried the device. I would have hoped that since peter knows that his show is quite popula he would have at least sat down with it for a day or so and got to kno it. If infact he has done this and still thinks its inaccessable, whilst I can't see why he does, its still an eduicated opinion and I don't see anything wrong with this. It seems that people here touch screen and dismiss the phone instantly. On 23/09/2009, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: hi for those who can listen to the In Touch listen again from last night, on bbc radio 4 they are saying the IPHone is totally inaccessible why do they not give apple credit, where it is due -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
sending this in response to in touch program
Hi I am sending the below message to the IN Touch bbc radio 4 program I feel that the comments made regarding the IPhone on the 22nd of September were totally unfounded and unreasonable. The Iphone, like the Macintosh computer from Apple is not something one can try for an hour and say oh I don't like it. LIke anything it takes time. Admittedly yes, texting has become a problem for some but again practice makes perfect, but to slate the product in such a way as to say the product is not worth it and a load of rubbish is to me, unfounded. I have used the IPhone and think it puts us on a level playing field with our sighted counterparts for once. There are a lot of blind iphone users who I am sure would agree with these listed sentements, one can't get a feel for the new IPHone in a day or so it takes time, practice, and effort and I for one feel Apple should be commended for what they have done. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: everything busy?
Hi, Are you running a Mac mini without a monitor. Once I connected a monitor to my mini this problem went away. Chris On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:19:06 -0500 Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: is it just me, or is it taht every i try to open a program in the Mac, VO continuously goes, busy... busy... and when it's ready, i move the cursor with vo right/left and it goes busy... busy this is most notable in safari 4.1 and jungle disk... also, i can't seem to up/down arrow in the menus in safari... and I've reinstalled 10.6 before to try and isolate this problem of not being able to arrow through menus and it seemed to work... now it's rearing it's head in safari... any ideas/tips? or did i make the switch in vain? -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: everything busy?
don't have one connected... don't have the right cabling... - Original Message - From: Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:36 AM Subject: Re: everything busy? Hi, Are you running a Mac mini without a monitor. Once I connected a monitor to my mini this problem went away. Chris On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:19:06 -0500 Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: is it just me, or is it taht every i try to open a program in the Mac, VO continuously goes, busy... busy... and when it's ready, i move the cursor with vo right/left and it goes busy... busy this is most notable in safari 4.1 and jungle disk... also, i can't seem to up/down arrow in the menus in safari... and I've reinstalled 10.6 before to try and isolate this problem of not being able to arrow through menus and it seemed to work... now it's rearing it's head in safari... any ideas/tips? or did i make the switch in vain? -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: nano micro-management
Hi, thanks for the response. I don't get why though the voice over menu options to speak more than just artists and playlists is dimmed. Is it because i told itunes to manually manage the music and rest? best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: load of rubbish!
Well it's the same over here in Sweden. I was at an assistive technology show last monday and showed the phone to a vendor and some blind folks here and the response was basically that yes, the phone has speech, but blind people shouldn't use touch screens at all and it was just an interface for design and the fact that people switched was because it was new and blind people shall use buttons and not anything else, and why would people want a device this big? and the like. Sometimes i wonder why i bother talking about the hottest thing in accessibility in a long time when people just consider me a non- representative nerd. I can't help thinking well, let them have their bloatware, at least i have seen the light... but it's probably wrong to think like that. /Krister 23 sep 2009 kl. 11.02 skrev ben mustill-rose: Sadly, this does seem to be the opinion of people that have not tried the device. I would have hoped that since peter knows that his show is quite popula he would have at least sat down with it for a day or so and got to kno it. If infact he has done this and still thinks its inaccessable, whilst I can't see why he does, its still an eduicated opinion and I don't see anything wrong with this. It seems that people here touch screen and dismiss the phone instantly. On 23/09/2009, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: hi for those who can listen to the In Touch listen again from last night, on bbc radio 4 they are saying the IPHone is totally inaccessible why do they not give apple credit, where it is due -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: everything busy?
You'll need to get the cables and connect a monitor. This will fix the issue. On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:04:47 -0500 Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: don't have one connected... don't have the right cabling... - Original Message - From: Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:36 AM Subject: Re: everything busy? Hi, Are you running a Mac mini without a monitor. Once I connected a monitor to my mini this problem went away. Chris On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:19:06 -0500 Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote: is it just me, or is it taht every i try to open a program in the Mac, VO continuously goes, busy... busy... and when it's ready, i move the cursor with vo right/left and it goes busy... busy this is most notable in safari 4.1 and jungle disk... also, i can't seem to up/down arrow in the menus in safari... and I've reinstalled 10.6 before to try and isolate this problem of not being able to arrow through menus and it seemed to work... now it's rearing it's head in safari... any ideas/tips? or did i make the switch in vain? -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: load of rubbish!
no idea. i get this show as a podcast. should be in my feeds now. i'll listen to it. they migt just be getting an email from me. i had a feeling they'd say this. this is sad. On 9/23/09, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Well it's the same over here in Sweden. I was at an assistive technology show last monday and showed the phone to a vendor and some blind folks here and the response was basically that yes, the phone has speech, but blind people shouldn't use touch screens at all and it was just an interface for design and the fact that people switched was because it was new and blind people shall use buttons and not anything else, and why would people want a device this big? and the like. Sometimes i wonder why i bother talking about the hottest thing in accessibility in a long time when people just consider me a non- representative nerd. I can't help thinking well, let them have their bloatware, at least i have seen the light... but it's probably wrong to think like that. /Krister 23 sep 2009 kl. 11.02 skrev ben mustill-rose: Sadly, this does seem to be the opinion of people that have not tried the device. I would have hoped that since peter knows that his show is quite popula he would have at least sat down with it for a day or so and got to kno it. If infact he has done this and still thinks its inaccessable, whilst I can't see why he does, its still an eduicated opinion and I don't see anything wrong with this. It seems that people here touch screen and dismiss the phone instantly. On 23/09/2009, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: hi for those who can listen to the In Touch listen again from last night, on bbc radio 4 they are saying the IPHone is totally inaccessible why do they not give apple credit, where it is due -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Voice Over for Snow Leopard
Hi everyone, Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is available in either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how does one listen to the Voice Over manual from within the utility? I didn't find it when clicking on the Help option. Thanks in advance for any assistance that might be rendered, Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard
Michael Busboom wrote: Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is available in either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how does one listen to the Voice Over manual from within the utility? I didn’t find it when clicking on the Help option. I found the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Snow Leopard in HTML format at: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ HTH Cheers, Esther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: audio books in mp3 format?
thanks, Esther!!! you sure know your stuff! this is great!! On 2009-09-23, at 1:38 AM, Esther wrote: Hi, To have your mp3 audiobook show up under audiobooks instead of music, select all tracks and use Get Info (Command-I) to edit. iTunes will ask whether you really want to edit multiple tracks. Just press return to indicate that you do. In the Multple Item information window, VO- Right arrow to the Options tab and press (VO-Space). Then navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Media Kind and change this from Music to Audiobook (VO-Space and use your arrow keys). Next, navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Remember Position and change this from No to Yes. This will remember your place in the track. Finally, navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the pop up button for Skip when shuffling and change this from No to Yes. This will omit your audiobook tracks from random shuffle play. Press return (or navigate to the OK button and press it with VO-Space) to commit your changes. The tracks should vanish from the Music library and reappear under Audiobooks. Finally, make up a smart playlist to play your book. I'm assuming that your mp3 files are tagged to identify the book in the album title and that the individual tracks are also tagged and ordered. Either find the Make Smart Playlist menu option from the File menu on the iTunes menu bar or use the shortcut, Command-Option- N. Navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the rules section and interact (VO- Shift-Down Arrow). You're going to create two rules: Album contains Name of your book Play count is 0 Press (VO-Space) the first pop up button and change it from Artist to Album (by arrowing up or by quickly typing the first few letters of the keyword). VO-Right arrow past the contains pop up button to the text field and type in the album name. (You can change the pop up button for contains to is if you want an exact match, but either should work). At the end of the first rule, VO-Right arrow to the Add button and press it (VO-Space). Then VO-Right arrow to the next rule. Change the pop up button to Play Count. The remaining arguments should read is 0. Stop interacting with the rules section and VO-Right arrow to make sure that Live Updating is checked (which it should be by default), then either press return to commit your changes or VO-Right arrow to the OK button and press it with VO- Space. Then type in a name for your smart playlist. Play your audio book from your smart playlist. As each track is played, it's play count will increment to 1, and the live updating feature will cause it to drop off the smart playlist, so that the next unplayed track is always at the top of the playlist. Since iTunes remembers the position within your current track, your current position is always bookmarked. If you want to reset your play count to 0, just select all tracks and use the contextual menu in the songs table to Reset Play Count and you can reuse your smart playlist. HTH Cheers, Esther Jessi and Goldina wrote: hey guys I have an audio book in mp3 format that someone sent me. I imported it into iTunes and it shows up with all my other music. is there a way to put it with my other audio books? all the ones I get from audible show up in the audio books playlist and I want this one to show up there too. also, is there a way to have my mac and iPod remember my place in the book like it does with the audible ones? thanks. Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Voice Over for Snow Leopard
As usual, Esther, your feedback is so helpful. I am a member of the Technical Commission of the European Blind Union, and I wanted to use the manual to help me prepare for a session in which I will be discussing Voice Over in detail. I will look at the URL you provided. It would be great if there were a source for “in-depth” documentation as well. Had the documentation for Voice Over been more readily available, we might have perhaps avoided disasterous and erroneous product reviews like the one produced by The Braille Monitor. I, for one, enjoy reading a manual from cover to cover before ever even starting to use a product or program. My very best to you, and thank you for this link! Mike From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Wednesday, 23 September, 2009 15:05 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard Michael Busboom wrote: Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is available in either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how does one listen to the Voice Over manual from within the utility? I didn’t find it when clicking on the Help option. I found the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Snow Leopard in HTML format at: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ HTH Cheers, Esther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard
Hi Michael, The Getting STarted guide is also the last option on the Help menu accessed with VO-H. When you select this option, it opens as an HTML file in Safari. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard
Hi, I should also mention that a number of people received a copy of the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Snow Leopard in RTF format. There was also a note this guide was posted on a user's MobileMe public site: http://idisk.mac.com/davidw9-Public?view=web VoiceOver_Getting_Started_Snow_Leopard.rtf You can convert this to straight ASCII text in TextEdit, or you can print and save this as a PDF file. Cheers, Esther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone see any improvements in latest itunes?
HI Will, The Songs table that shows songs in the iTunes store is part of the HTML content now rather than separate, but the one you access to listen to music in the music library is still there. have you rebooted since installing the update? Before I rebooted, I had a lot of trouble with focus issues when moving around in the Songs table, but that problem resolved itself after the reboot. Unfortunately, the focus issues in the column browser were not resolved by a reboot. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone see any improvements in latest itunes?
The songs table is there just as in previous versions of itunes. You hit vo+rightarrow to go between the different tables such as the searc box, sources table, songs table, ETC. On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:00 AM, william lomas wrote: i dn't even see a song tables anymore in my itunes On 23 Sep 2009, at 04:24, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I just updated to the new version of iTunes, 9.1 I think it is. I don't see any improvements in accessibility; there are still the same focus issues with the column browser, and the songs table in the iTunes store is just as hard to navigate as before. Does anyone else see any improvements over the previous iTunes 9? Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
next table command useful navigation tool
Hi, You guys may already know this, but I didn't, and it's cool. I discovered a couple of days ago that the command to move to the next table, VO-Command-T, works in lots of programs, not just Safari, this can be invaluable for navigation. for instance, in itunes it takes you directly to the Sources table or the Songs table. In Mail, if you conduct a search with Command-Option-F, it takes you right to the search results table. IN Skype, it takes you to the table listing contacts. In the spell check, it takes you from the misspelled word right to the list of suggestions. In short, I think this is going to be one of my most used navigation tools. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Setting up a Router
Hi All, Can someone please help. I have a mac mini with Airport Extreme wireless card, and I am trying to setup a Billion 802VGT Router, and they talk about 802.11g or 802.11b clients. My question is the Airport extreme is it a 11b or 11g device? Cheers, Stan Telephone; +27396992700, KwaZuluNatal, South Africa. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Has anyone managed to successfully disable VO's announcements in column view?
Hi list, Using the Custom Verbosity table in the VO Utility, has anyone managed to disabled VO's announcement of list every time you enter a folder in Column view? Every time i use the Custom Verbosity in the pop-up menu and deselect all the checkboxes, VO does not keep the changes. Does anyone know what i am doing wrong please or even if what I am asking is possible? Thank you for taking the to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Setting up a Router
It will be a 11g device. On 23/09/2009, Stan perrins...@telkomsa.net wrote: Hi All, Can someone please help. I have a mac mini with Airport Extreme wireless card, and I am trying to setup a Billion 802VGT Router, and they talk about 802.11g or 802.11b clients. My question is the Airport extreme is it a 11b or 11g device? Cheers, Stan Telephone; +27396992700, KwaZuluNatal, South Africa. -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
System UI and the battery
Hi everyone, I just had a strange experience. Currently, my battery is around 20% and I was told on re-opening my laptop lid that I should switch on AC power. I've never had this so soon before. On re-opening, this did not happen. Has anyone else noticed this, or was this just a freak occurrence? Thanks for taking the time to read this James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: System UI and the battery
I had this happen to me once when I had my mac running at full song. What you want to do is plug your battery adapter in and let it charge. Try charging the mac while it's off. It'll charge faster that way . On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, I just had a strange experience. Currently, my battery is around 20% and I was told on re-opening my laptop lid that I should switch on AC power. I've never had this so soon before. On re-opening, this did not happen. Has anyone else noticed this, or was this just a freak occurrence? Thanks for taking the time to read this James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sending this in response to in touch program
Just my two cents, I receive emails from many sighted people that say sent from their iphone at the bottom of the message. You wouldn't believe the number of typos and missing letters that I get. Same with the blackberry. there are some sighted people who can't use the iphone or other such phones effectively. My brother, who is sighted, turned on the vo features on his iphone just to see. He was impressed by how easy it is to use even for someone not used to accessing technology through speech. So, by all means i hope they listen. their previous track record suggests they are more concerned with protecting turf or pushing their own agenda than they are in giving an honest appraisal of the iphone or any new technology for that matter. Thanks, Max On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:09 AM, william lomas wrote: Hi I am sending the below message to the IN Touch bbc radio 4 program I feel that the comments made regarding the IPhone on the 22nd of September were totally unfounded and unreasonable. The Iphone, like the Macintosh computer from Apple is not something one can try for an hour and say oh I don't like it. LIke anything it takes time. Admittedly yes, texting has become a problem for some but again practice makes perfect, but to slate the product in such a way as to say the product is not worth it and a load of rubbish is to me, unfounded. I have used the IPhone and think it puts us on a level playing field with our sighted counterparts for once. There are a lot of blind iphone users who I am sure would agree with these listed sentements, one can't get a feel for the new IPHone in a day or so it takes time, practice, and effort and I for one feel Apple should be commended for what they have done. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
VO curser suddenly skipping over one edit box on Facebook
Hi everyone! I am a new member to this group. In fact, I just received my confirmation this morning. I've already learned a few tips and tricks by reading the emails I've received. I am looking forward to so much more especially since I just converted in June 2009 to Apple Mac from Windows and the third party screen reader worlds. I am running Leopard but have decided to purchase Snow Leopard later today. I am wondering if anyone else uses Facebook and whether you have run into a problem which I started having a week ago Monday. With a few exceptions, most items seem to be labeled properly on FB and I can navigate the site and my friends' walls, but suddenly, VO skips over the control edit box where I would normally type my status update. VO also skips the edit box used to post on a friend's wall. VO recognizes and takes me to all other edit boxes such as search, write something or share button A sighted friend said the site looks the same. The what's on your mind edit box is still there but he noticed VO curser gets to the link just before it and on the next press, it skips it completely to the share button Arrowing up, down, left, or right, VO curser always skips it. I can access every other edit box except that one. Again, I've been on FB for five months and this is the first time this has happened. Any ideas? Israel Antonio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How can i get the latest version of VLC to play entire folders please?
Hi everyone, In prior versions of VLC Media Player, I could play entire folders of audio. Now in 1.0.1 I cannot seem to do this. Has anyone else noticed this please? I press the Play button and Browse for the folder I want and then hit Ok. But it tells me that VLC cannot open my selected files. Has anyone found a work around to this or should i go and download an older version? Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care james --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: System UI and the battery
Hi Chantel, Thank you for this tip I'll give it a go. T On 23 Sep 2009, at 16:40, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I had this happen to me once when I had my mac running at full song. What you want to do is plug your battery adapter in and let it charge. Try charging the mac while it's off. It'll charge faster that way . On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, I just had a strange experience. Currently, my battery is around 20% and I was told on re-opening my laptop lid that I should switch on AC power. I've never had this so soon before. On re-opening, this did not happen. Has anyone else noticed this, or was this just a freak occurrence? Thanks for taking the time to read this James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Location of applescripts used by Voiceover.
Hi all, Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know the location of the various scripts assigned by default to the keyboard commander? I'm referring to things like the Unread Mail count, and the time of day etc. Thanks, Donal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: System UI and the battery
Good luck. On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:35 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi Chantel, Thank you for this tip I'll give it a go. T On 23 Sep 2009, at 16:40, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I had this happen to me once when I had my mac running at full song. What you want to do is plug your battery adapter in and let it charge. Try charging the mac while it's off. It'll charge faster that way . On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:18 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, I just had a strange experience. Currently, my battery is around 20% and I was told on re-opening my laptop lid that I should switch on AC power. I've never had this so soon before. On re-opening, this did not happen. Has anyone else noticed this, or was this just a freak occurrence? Thanks for taking the time to read this James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: load of rubbish!
On Sep 23, 2009, at 5:46 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Well it's the same over here in Sweden. I was at an assistive technology show last monday and showed the phone to a vendor and some blind folks here and the response was basically that yes, the phone has speech, but blind people shouldn't use touch screens at all and it was just an interface for design and the fact that people switched was because it was new and blind people shall use buttons and not anything else, and why would people want a device this big? and the like. Sometimes i wonder why i bother talking about the hottest thing in accessibility in a long time when people just consider me a non- representative nerd. I can't help thinking well, let them have their bloatware, at least i have seen the light... but it's probably wrong to think like that. /Krister One other thing I think about is, that now that iphone is accessible, I wonder how many people will start using the trackpad features of VO on laptops. That'll give 'em more rubbish generation. 23 sep 2009 kl. 11.02 skrev ben mustill-rose: Sadly, this does seem to be the opinion of people that have not tried the device. I would have hoped that since peter knows that his show is quite popula he would have at least sat down with it for a day or so and got to kno it. If infact he has done this and still thinks its inaccessable, whilst I can't see why he does, its still an eduicated opinion and I don't see anything wrong with this. It seems that people here touch screen and dismiss the phone instantly. On 23/09/2009, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: hi for those who can listen to the In Touch listen again from last night, on bbc radio 4 they are saying the IPHone is totally inaccessible why do they not give apple credit, where it is due -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO curser suddenly skipping over one edit box on Facebook
I can confirm this, I don't even see the status edit box at all. Using snow lepard here. Mike On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Israel wrote: Hi everyone! I am a new member to this group. In fact, I just received my confirmation this morning. I've already learned a few tips and tricks by reading the emails I've received. I am looking forward to so much more especially since I just converted in June 2009 to Apple Mac from Windows and the third party screen reader worlds. I am running Leopard but have decided to purchase Snow Leopard later today. I am wondering if anyone else uses Facebook and whether you have run into a problem which I started having a week ago Monday. With a few exceptions, most items seem to be labeled properly on FB and I can navigate the site and my friends' walls, but suddenly, VO skips over the control edit box where I would normally type my status update. VO also skips the edit box used to post on a friend's wall. VO recognizes and takes me to all other edit boxes such as search, write something or share button A sighted friend said the site looks the same. The what's on your mind edit box is still there but he noticed VO curser gets to the link just before it and on the next press, it skips it completely to the share button Arrowing up, down, left, or right, VO curser always skips it. I can access every other edit box except that one. Again, I've been on FB for five months and this is the first time this has happened. Any ideas? Israel Antonio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Setting up a Router
Hi Ben, Thanks, How do I know this? or How can I know this? Cheers Stan On 23 Sep 2009, at 4:59 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: It will be a 11g device. On 23/09/2009, Stan perrins...@telkomsa.net wrote: Hi All, Can someone please help. I have a mac mini with Airport Extreme wireless card, and I am trying to setup a Billion 802VGT Router, and they talk about 802.11g or 802.11b clients. My question is the Airport extreme is it a 11b or 11g device? Cheers, Stan Telephone; +27396992700, KwaZuluNatal, South Africa. -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) Cheers, Stan Telephone; +27396992700, KwaZuluNatal, South Africa. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Another query about scripting VO
Hi everyone, I think I remember reading somewhere that it was possible to create your own Services in 10.6. Is this true or did I imagine it? Also, does anyone know if there are any limitations to scripting VO or is it just limited by the scripter's imagination? Thanks Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Safari - is there a way to stop the address bar from completing websites please?
Hi everyone, Is there a way to stop the Safari address bar from completing web site addresses please? Thank you Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari - is there a way to stop the address bar from completing websites please?
Press the spacebar once before typing the address. On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:46 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, Is there a way to stop the Safari address bar from completing web site addresses please? Thank you Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari - is there a way to stop the address bar from completing websites please?
On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:46 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, Is there a way to stop the Safari address bar from completing web site addresses please? Thank you Take care James In the autofill tab, you can edit autofills for all the different forms. If you edit the Other forms, it brings up a window of addresses, in which you can delete individual ones or clear them all. hope that helps. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari - is there a way to stop the address bar from completing websites please?
Press the spacebar once before typing the address. Cool thanks Justin On 23 Sep 2009, at 19:50, Justin Harford wrote: Press the spacebar once before typing the address. On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:46 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, Is there a way to stop the Safari address bar from completing web site addresses please? Thank you Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari - is there a way to stop the address bar from completing websites please?
Brilliant thanks On 23 Sep 2009, at 19:54, Pete Nalda wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:46 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, Is there a way to stop the Safari address bar from completing web site addresses please? Thank you Take care James In the autofill tab, you can edit autofills for all the different forms. If you edit the Other forms, it brings up a window of addresses, in which you can delete individual ones or clear them all. hope that helps. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How can i get the latest version of VLC to play entire folders please?
Hello. Try opening the terminal and doing cd folder_name. Then do ls whatever.m3u. Before I started using Itunes to play my music I could have swarn I did that to make a play list of a folder for VLC. On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:34 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, In prior versions of VLC Media Player, I could play entire folders of audio. Now in 1.0.1 I cannot seem to do this. Has anyone else noticed this please? I press the Play button and Browse for the folder I want and then hit Ok. But it tells me that VLC cannot open my selected files. Has anyone found a work around to this or should i go and download an older version? Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care james --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
A solution for some list members' problems with TextEdit
Hi everyone, This may have already been passed on, but I've found a solution for Voice Over jumping around in Text Edit and not always reading continuous pages when editing etc. If you set the page to wrap to the window with Cmd + Shift + W this should fix the problem. Thanks Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How can i get the latest version of VLC to play entire folders please?
Thanks I'll try this. On 23 Sep 2009, at 20:29, Ryan Mann wrote: Hello. Try opening the terminal and doing cd folder_name. Then do ls whatever.m3u. Before I started using Itunes to play my music I could have swarn I did that to make a play list of a folder for VLC. On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:34 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, In prior versions of VLC Media Player, I could play entire folders of audio. Now in 1.0.1 I cannot seem to do this. Has anyone else noticed this please? I press the Play button and Browse for the folder I want and then hit Ok. But it tells me that VLC cannot open my selected files. Has anyone found a work around to this or should i go and download an older version? Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care james --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
hey guys help help help
hey guys i love my mac but need help help for some odd reason alot of things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours so i thought i would hit u guys up not sure if i am allowed to give my skype name out but here goes skype id is mrdigital777 feel free to call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it today just keep calling until u get me hope this dont get me kicked from the group i love it here --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: hey guys help help help
What do you need help with? Maybe I can assist. On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:42 PM, David Geiger wrote: hey guys i love my mac but need help help for some odd reason alot of things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours so i thought i would hit u guys up not sure if i am allowed to give my skype name out but here goes skype id is mrdigital777 feel free to call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it today just keep calling until u get me hope this dont get me kicked from the group i love it here --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: hey guys help help help
Don't use skype, but if might be helpful to know what difficulties you are having so that we know what's going on. If you throw a drowning man an anvil he's a goner On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:42 AM, David Geiger mrdigital...@gmail.comwrote: hey guys i love my mac but need help help for some odd reason alot of things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours so i thought i would hit u guys up not sure if i am allowed to give my skype name out but here goes skype id is mrdigital777 feel free to call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it today just keep calling until u get me hope this dont get me kicked from the group i love it here -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: hey guys help help help
Have you tried repairing permissions? On 23 Sep 2009, at 21:52, Charlie Doremus wrote: Don't use skype, but if might be helpful to know what difficulties you are having so that we know what's going on. If you throw a drowning man an anvil he's a goner On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:42 AM, David Geiger mrdigital...@gmail.com wrote: hey guys i love my mac but need help help for some odd reason alot of things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours so i thought i would hit u guys up not sure if i am allowed to give my skype name out but here goes skype id is mrdigital777 feel free to call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it today just keep calling until u get me hope this dont get me kicked from the group i love it here -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: hey guys help help help
Hmmm, be more specific? What is it that's not working? Then maybe we can help? On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: What do you need help with? Maybe I can assist. On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:42 PM, David Geiger wrote: hey guys i love my mac but need help help for some odd reason alot of things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours so i thought i would hit u guys up not sure if i am allowed to give my skype name out but here goes skype id is mrdigital777 feel free to call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it today just keep calling until u get me hope this dont get me kicked from the group i love it here --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
help details
ok well first off i can not figure out how to the the track pad to work with voice over as it said it would meaning talk when useing the track pad and second when in dock i can not access folders i cant get my apps folder to open or the down load folder or the doc forlder but i cant get outher things to open on the doc just not folders i am new to mac so alot to learn but feel stupid when cant get folder to open thanks guys --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Test
Sorry, just a test. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Location of applescripts used by Voiceover.
it's deeply buried, and I can' say I've figured out their structure. go to keyboard help (VO+k), and use that function and it'll tell you the path. HTH, On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know the location of the various scripts assigned by default to the keyboard commander? I'm referring to things like the Unread Mail count, and the time of day etc. Thanks, Donal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Setting up a Router
Hello, I'm going to say that it's b and g compatible, most newer cards are these days. Just a guess, but I haven't seen anything not in a few years On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Stan wrote: Hi All, Can someone please help. I have a mac mini with Airport Extreme wireless card, and I am trying to setup a Billion 802VGT Router, and they talk about 802.11g or 802.11b clients. My question is the Airport extreme is it a 11b or 11g device? Cheers, Stan Telephone; +27396992700, KwaZuluNatal, South Africa. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: hey guys help help help
hey David, to open folders on the dock: make sure you're on the folder you want to open press command option shift m all at the same time to bring up the contextual menu arrow down to where it says open or you can probably just press the letter o press command option space the folder should then open. then you can interact with the list and view the contents. hope that helps. my skype name is canadian_diva if you wanna add me. On 2009-09-23, at 1:42 PM, David Geiger wrote: hey guys i love my mac but need help help for some odd reason alot of things are not working been on the phone with apple for two hours so i thought i would hit u guys up not sure if i am allowed to give my skype name out but here goes skype id is mrdigital777 feel free to call me if u have skype so i can get some help i be on and off of it today just keep calling until u get me hope this dont get me kicked from the group i love it here --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Location of applescripts used by Voiceover.
Nice one Tyler thanks. It truly is buried isn't it? On 23 Sep 2009, at 23:07, Tyler Littlefield wrote: it's deeply buried, and I can' say I've figured out their structure. go to keyboard help (VO+k), and use that function and it'll tell you the path. HTH, On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know the location of the various scripts assigned by default to the keyboard commander? I'm referring to things like the Unread Mail count, and the time of day etc. Thanks, Donal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: help details
You might consider learning how to type as well. - Original Message - From: David Geiger mrdigital...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:26 PM Subject: help details ok well first off i can not figure out how to the the track pad to work with voice over as it said it would meaning talk when useing the track pad and second when in dock i can not access folders i cant get my apps folder to open or the down load folder or the doc forlder but i cant get outher things to open on the doc just not folders i am new to mac so alot to learn but feel stupid when cant get folder to open thanks guys --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another query about scripting VO
Hi, For the first question i can't be sure, but there are commands to get into processes. As for the limitations of applescript, since there is a large library of commands, and this being object oriented, you can display or list various objects within objects, their elements and properties. So if you choose and reflect on what you want the script to do, it shouldn't be a problem to do just about anything. You might want though to check for third party libraries for various applications not made by Apple. Hope that helps best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Location of applescripts used by Voiceover.
it is, they did their best to hide it. hope it helps. On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Nice one Tyler thanks. It truly is buried isn't it? On 23 Sep 2009, at 23:07, Tyler Littlefield wrote: it's deeply buried, and I can' say I've figured out their structure. go to keyboard help (VO+k), and use that function and it'll tell you the path. HTH, On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know the location of the various scripts assigned by default to the keyboard commander? I'm referring to things like the Unread Mail count, and the time of day etc. Thanks, Donal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: load of rubbish!
Makes you realize that lobbying goes a long way to put forth technologies created by government funded or associative companies to favor their products. It can also have to do with certain agreements made between insurance companies and those bulkware providers. Its all a business at the end of the day, and worse yet, it is a lucrative one in poor countries whether for political or contract attaining reasons. I've never attended a show on accessibility technologies but if someone gives me this load of crap, i won't go away without some verbiage in favor of alternative solutions to all these obsolete feeling accessories like those i found at the royal institute for the blind. It felt like a museum doing a garage sale. Best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: next table command useful navigation tool
Hi Anna, Thanks for that bit of info. Mkes things much easier :) best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
nano thoughts
Hi everyone, I got home yesterday and decided to fully test the nano, and i'm quite pleased by the experience, apart from the fear of loosing this thing when i wear slacks or office pants. I included the bruno infovox voice as my nano navigator, and funny enough, i played a few song from the French singer Goerges Brassens, and bruno sounds exactly the same :) Otherwise, the shuffle option is quite fantastic, very responsive. I've also noticed that there some sort of touch sensitive area on the screen? Can anyone confirm that? Or maybe the turnwheel has got ESP because when i do as much as hovering a finger it triggers bruno's description of the song. Oh, and also. If you use a different language, there are two voices depending on the need, that read your titles. Found that an additional perk. Lastly, can anyone suggest a nice case for this beauty? i'm looking for something that will give it some bulk but not with acrylic plastic which would defeat the whole framework experience. best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
twitter for the mac, what will work with vo?
hi my subject line tales it all I am looking for a twitter client that will work with vo? enay ides? ps I have a rittenexpration disorder so please forgive me for misspellings. maurice ham call sine kd0iko. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: twitter for the mac, what will work with vo?
Hi Maurice, two clients that work well are Twitterrific and Syrinx. Twitterrific is a smaller / lighter client (very fast to use) and you can get it from: http://iconfactory.com/software/twitterrific Syrinx is quite a bit more feature-rich and you can get it from: http://www.mrrsoftware.com/MRRSoftware/Syrinx.html Both work very well with VO. Each has a couple of quirks but nothing that should really interfere with your usual daily use or make it less enjoyable. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: hi my subject line tales it all I am looking for a twitter client that will work with vo? enay ides? ps I have a rittenexpration disorder so please forgive me for misspellings. maurice ham call sine kd0iko. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Two small mail and VO questions
Hi all, I have two really simple but frustrating issues with the Mail program in SL that I cannot figure out with VO. Firstly, when I arrow up and down in my list of messages the unread ones start with saying unread and the read ones start with saying blank. How can I stop the read messages from saying blank before each one? Also, how can I change the sort order of my messages in that list. Right now the newest is at the bottom I would like the newest at the top. Thanks Frank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---