Found how to fix the Spotlightbar

2012-10-01 Thread Agent086b
Hi all, I solved the Spotlight bar problem.
All I needed was to turn off Captions in VO. Now the Spotlight bar is gone 
until I want it.
Thanks again for the help.
Max.
Thanks again.
Max.

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Re: formatting Text in Pages

2012-10-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris,

In Pages, leaving the text area using VO removes the selection so you can't 
apply a style. You have to set a hotkey for the style you want and just press 
it in the paragraph to which it should apply.

You can check on what style is in operation by setting a hotspot on the Styles 
drawer. To do this, open the Styles drawer with Cmd-Shift-t, navigate to it, 
make sure that you're not interacting with it and set a hotspot. You can then 
use VO-Cmd-hotspot to discover what is selected in the Styles drawer.

If you can't navigate within any text area, go there with VO, bring the mouse 
and click.

There is a lot more than that to using Pages but it should help to get you 
started.

Cheers,

Anne


On 1 Oct 2012, at 01:00, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 Thanks to all who answered my questions. I am sorry I did not reply before 
 but I am up to my ears in boxes as I prepare for some major alterations to my 
 house. I am therefore also behind with my emails.
 
 I think I gave rather a bad example with something as simple as making text 
 bold. I am in the UK and wrote the message at the end of a long and tiring 
 day. I will therefore give a very specific example.
 
 I type some text in the body of a document and then stop interacting with the 
 various parts of the document as I make my way back to the formatting bar and 
 choose the paragraph style button.
 
 Firstly I cannot read any of the items on the menu that appears as VO says 
 absolutely nothing. I did this at the Apple store and the trainer told me the 
 style and confirmed that it had been applied.
 
 Then, when I went back into the document and interacted with the various 
 parts until I got to the body of the text I could not read the text I had 
 previously entered. I simply got a dong sound when moving either the VO 
 cursor or the actual cursor. This was because the actual text entry cursor 
 would not move any further than the header section of the document. We tried 
 doing everything we could think of with the cursor tracking but to no avail.
 
 I know there are some issues with Pages and Voiceover but I cannot believe 
 they are this bad. I am sure I am doing something very simple that is wrong 
 so please can anyone tell me what it is?
 
 Once again, many thanks,
 
 Chris Edwards
 

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Re: formatting Text in Pages

2012-10-01 Thread Maria Chapman
Hi.  not sure i quite understand these instructions. I haven't done much with 
hot
Can someone explain to me how to go pick a style and then set a hot key so it 
can be applied to text in pages?

thanks

God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 









On 01/10/2012, at 4:24 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Chris,
 
 In Pages, leaving the text area using VO removes the selection so you can't 
 apply a style. You have to set a hotkey for the style you want and just press 
 it in the paragraph to which it should apply.
 
 You can check on what style is in operation by setting a hotspot on the 
 Styles drawer. To do this, open the Styles drawer with Cmd-Shift-t, navigate 
 to it, make sure that you're not interacting with it and set a hotspot. You 
 can then use VO-Cmd-hotspot to discover what is selected in the Styles drawer.
 
 If you can't navigate within any text area, go there with VO, bring the mouse 
 and click.
 
 There is a lot more than that to using Pages but it should help to get you 
 started.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 1 Oct 2012, at 01:00, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks to all who answered my questions. I am sorry I did not reply before 
 but I am up to my ears in boxes as I prepare for some major alterations to 
 my house. I am therefore also behind with my emails.
 
 I think I gave rather a bad example with something as simple as making text 
 bold. I am in the UK and wrote the message at the end of a long and tiring 
 day. I will therefore give a very specific example.
 
 I type some text in the body of a document and then stop interacting with 
 the various parts of the document as I make my way back to the formatting 
 bar and choose the paragraph style button.
 
 Firstly I cannot read any of the items on the menu that appears as VO says 
 absolutely nothing. I did this at the Apple store and the trainer told me 
 the style and confirmed that it had been applied.
 
 Then, when I went back into the document and interacted with the various 
 parts until I got to the body of the text I could not read the text I had 
 previously entered. I simply got a dong sound when moving either the VO 
 cursor or the actual cursor. This was because the actual text entry cursor 
 would not move any further than the header section of the document. We tried 
 doing everything we could think of with the cursor tracking but to no avail.
 
 I know there are some issues with Pages and Voiceover but I cannot believe 
 they are this bad. I am sure I am doing something very simple that is wrong 
 so please can anyone tell me what it is?
 
 Once again, many thanks,
 
 Chris Edwards
 
 
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Re: Improving Calibre Accessibility on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Esther. I'll give that a shot.

I'm wondering now if there is a way to get the various plugins for Calibre 
through the command-line. The GUI interface doesn't allow VO to read the 
advanced preferences.

Thanks,
Teresa

On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Teresa,
 
 I remember sending you this information about some scripts that Jonathan 
 Chacôn wrote for Calbre.  At the time (back in April) I couldn't get to the 
 blog site links, and thought they might have been permanently taken down, but 
 the URLs all seem to be working now.  I think that working in the command 
 line for Calibre is fine, but these might be of interest to someone.   (Like 
 most things, I found the original information in the archives for the 
 macvisionaries list).
 begin quote
 Hi Teresa,
 
 I think you'll have the best luck doing the ePub conversion with Pages, as 
 Mark suggests.  I'll just mention that Jonathan Chacón did construct a 
 service to convert TXT, RTF, PDF and HTML format eBooks to ePub using scripts 
 to run Calibre in command line, and made it available at his web log site in 
 August 2010.  The web page was:
 http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897
 There were headings in Spanish and English:
 • Servicio accesible de conversión a ePub para MacOS X
 • accessible ePub conversion service for MacOS X
 This was the direct download link for the zip file on that page:
 http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/archivos/id38/textConversionService.zip
 
 The problem is that this web site doesn't seem to be on-line currently, and 
 hasn't been when I tried it a few times recently.  Jonathan has a new web 
 site that is accessed by his free iPhone RSS app (in Spanish), Programar a 
 ciegas RSS by Tyflos Accessible Software.
 end quote
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 06:18, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I've decided i'm going to do what I can to encourage the developers of 
 Calibre to make the interface more accessible. As it stands now, there are 
 many work-arounds that have to be done to make it work. The only accessible 
 interface that works consistently is the command-line, and as far as I know, 
 it doesn't perform certain functions until plugins are enabled. Also, 
 command-line isn't for everyone, and I really think that a simpler UI would 
 be beneficial, if such a thing is possible. I realize Calibre is a humble 
 project, but perhaps something can be done to improve accessibility for this 
 very useful application.
 
 Teresa
 
 
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Re: Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread David Csercsics
Epub is just a fancy name for a zip file with the HTML book and some 
other files specific to ebook readers. Why not just change the file 
extension to .zip extract the archive and load index.html in your 
favourite browser.


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Re: Improving Calibre Accessibility on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

Thank you for sharing this information. Esther.

I have tried hard to find information on how to do a script for converting from 
mobi and HTMLZ to epub. Can anybody give me any details for how to make such a 
script.

Teresa it is great that you will try to contact calibre. I tried a couple of 
months ago, but with no luck. Maybe it will help when more people contact them.

Best regards Annie.


Den Oct 1, 2012 kl. 6:24 AM skrev Esther mori...@mac.com:

 Hi Teresa,
 
 I remember sending you this information about some scripts that Jonathan 
 Chacôn wrote for Calbre.  At the time (back in April) I couldn't get to the 
 blog site links, and thought they might have been permanently taken down, but 
 the URLs all seem to be working now.  I think that working in the command 
 line for Calibre is fine, but these might be of interest to someone.   (Like 
 most things, I found the original information in the archives for the 
 macvisionaries list).
 begin quote
 Hi Teresa,
 
 I think you'll have the best luck doing the ePub conversion with Pages, as 
 Mark suggests.  I'll just mention that Jonathan Chacón did construct a 
 service to convert TXT, RTF, PDF and HTML format eBooks to ePub using scripts 
 to run Calibre in command line, and made it available at his web log site in 
 August 2010.  The web page was:
 http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897
 There were headings in Spanish and English:
 • Servicio accesible de conversión a ePub para MacOS X
 • accessible ePub conversion service for MacOS X
 This was the direct download link for the zip file on that page:
 http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/archivos/id38/textConversionService.zip
 
 The problem is that this web site doesn't seem to be on-line currently, and 
 hasn't been when I tried it a few times recently.  Jonathan has a new web 
 site that is accessed by his free iPhone RSS app (in Spanish), Programar a 
 ciegas RSS by Tyflos Accessible Software.
 end quote
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 06:18, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I've decided i'm going to do what I can to encourage the developers of 
 Calibre to make the interface more accessible. As it stands now, there are 
 many work-arounds that have to be done to make it work. The only accessible 
 interface that works consistently is the command-line, and as far as I know, 
 it doesn't perform certain functions until plugins are enabled. Also, 
 command-line isn't for everyone, and I really think that a simpler UI would 
 be beneficial, if such a thing is possible. I realize Calibre is a humble 
 project, but perhaps something can be done to improve accessibility for this 
 very useful application.
 
 Teresa
 
 
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Re: Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Holmes
That's an interesting background; I thought there was more to it than that.  
Problem with using a browser is you can't do the kind of things that you can do 
in iBooks like precise bookmarking, annotation, and browsers don't keep their 
place like iBooks would do either.  I'm just surprised there isn't an epub book 
reader for the mac.

On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:01 AM, David Csercsics a...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Epub is just a fancy name for a zip file with the HTML book and some other 
 files specific to ebook readers. Why not just change the file extension to 
 .zip extract the archive and load index.html in your favourite browser.
 
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Re: help with nicecast

2012-10-01 Thread Chris
Ok, might check it out anyway and try one of the online services you 
suggested. Cheers!


On 01/10/2012 03:20, Hank Smith wrote:

if u are running the server locally then most likely u will have to
forward ports
its usually ports
8000 and 8001
On 9/30/2012 2:39 PM, Chris wrote:

Ok so if I use the built in server does that broadcast across the
internet or will I still have to do some port forwarding.

On 30/09/2012 20:21, Timothy Clark Music wrote:

hello -
  you can broadcast using either your own bandwidth from your internet.
  so you would be using the built in server or you could set up a server
with shout cast, ichacast, or live365.
  hope this helps
God Bless.
  Timothy.
  Your friend in the music industry
http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com
  7244011224

On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Chris wrote:


Nicecast sounds pretty cool, was going to buy it today as part of the
10th birthday special offer, but haven't even tried it. So what can I
do with it? It says I can create my own internet radio station. If
that is the case do I need to mess about with port forwarding etc? I
mean just imagine broadcasting my music collection to the internet
smile.
Thanks for any comments on this.

On 30/09/2012 17:06, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hello list,

I'm trying to use nicecast to stream audio from my Mac. When I try
to listen to the stream, it seems to connect but, I can't hear
anything although, I know music is playing in iTunes.  BTW, I'm using
an airport express for my router.  Any help would be appreciated.

Ricardo Walker
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Re: formatting Text in Pages

2012-10-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Maria,

First of all, don't confuse hotspots with hotkeys. Hotspots are a VO feature 
that allows you to mark items and return to them or monitor them from elsewhere 
in the same aplication. Hotkeys are a feature of Pages and are set in the 
Styles tables. They use the keys F1 through F8 and you set them by focusing on 
the style you want, then getting a contextual menu, in this case simply by 
pressing VO-Space.

Pages is a complex application that requires a thorough knowledge of VO if you 
don't want to be tearing your hair out.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
There is (or was) Stanza, but it won't open drm-protected books, such as Ibooks 
titles. It's very hard to get Stanza now, as all the links I've found for it 
are either broken or hijacked.

Teresa
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's an interesting background; I thought there was more to it than that.  
 Problem with using a browser is you can't do the kind of things that you can 
 do in iBooks like precise bookmarking, annotation, and browsers don't keep 
 their place like iBooks would do either.  I'm just surprised there isn't an 
 epub book reader for the mac.
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:01 AM, David Csercsics a...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Epub is just a fancy name for a zip file with the HTML book and some other 
 files specific to ebook readers. Why not just change the file extension to 
 .zip extract the archive and load index.html in your favourite browser.
 
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Re: formatting Text in Pages

2012-10-01 Thread Maria Chapman
hi.

thanks i think i understand now might go and have a play.

are their any tutorials out there on vo and pages that cover this stuff?

thanks

regards
Maria and crew from australia
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www.powerradio104.us
where we play lots of great music



On 01/10/2012, at 10:22 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Maria,
 
 First of all, don't confuse hotspots with hotkeys. Hotspots are a VO feature 
 that allows you to mark items and return to them or monitor them from 
 elsewhere in the same aplication. Hotkeys are a feature of Pages and are set 
 in the Styles tables. They use the keys F1 through F8 and you set them by 
 focusing on the style you want, then getting a contextual menu, in this case 
 simply by pressing VO-Space.
 
 Pages is a complex application that requires a thorough knowledge of VO if 
 you don't want to be tearing your hair out.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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Re: Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Holmes
Does anyone know if iBooks Author can read epub books?

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:27 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is (or was) Stanza, but it won't open drm-protected books, such as 
 Ibooks titles. It's very hard to get Stanza now, as all the links I've found 
 for it are either broken or hijacked.
 
 Teresa
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's an interesting background; I thought there was more to it than that.  
 Problem with using a browser is you can't do the kind of things that you can 
 do in iBooks like precise bookmarking, annotation, and browsers don't keep 
 their place like iBooks would do either.  I'm just surprised there isn't an 
 epub book reader for the mac.
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:01 AM, David Csercsics a...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Epub is just a fancy name for a zip file with the HTML book and some other 
 files specific to ebook readers. Why not just change the file extension to 
 .zip extract the archive and load index.html in your favourite browser.
 
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Re: Problems with Airserver

2012-10-01 Thread Al Puzzuoli


Hi Patricia,
yes. Very similar issues here. I have no idea what to think. the version 
that works best for me  is about a year old now. I wonder if there are 
any alternatives to Airserver on the Mac side? It's disappointing 
because I have my iMac connected to my entertainment center where my 
nice speakers are. I want to be able to funnel all my sound there, but 
that isn't happening as of right now for whatever reason ...

--Al


On 9/30/2012 4:56 PM, patricia solis wrote:

Hi al,

No not the only one. I'm also having problems  with Air Server. Not 
with the audio  but with video. I  have an Imac  and running Mountain   Lion.
  It was working fine  until the  last 2 updates.


On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Al Puzzuoli alp...@me.com wrote:


Hi,
Just wondering if others are using Airserver? If so, how have your experiences 
been? Mine have been spotty at best. When I try to Airplay from my iPhone to my 
iMac, with most apps audio may not start at all, is choppy, or stops 
altogether. MlB At Bat doesn't work at all, the iMac pops up an airserver 
window with a URl and an unknown error code. I've played with Airserver 
settings, audio buffers, etc, but to no avail.
The interesting thing is, this iMac is running Bootcamp. if I boot into 
Windows, I can run Shareport4w, a free Airplay utility, which works perfectly. 
So, same iMac, same network. Shareport4w works flawelessly in Windows, while 
Airserver under Mountain Lion gives me nothing but grief. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance,

Al

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Re: Problems with Airserver

2012-10-01 Thread patricia solis
Hi Al,

Yes, I can't seem to find the problem either. Even after messing with 
Air Server's preferences. i have heard of Air Foil  for the mac but its only 
audio. For me is very disappointing   paying for something  that is both audio 
and video  and not to work now. 

On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Al Puzzuoli alp...@me.com wrote:

 
 Hi Patricia,
 yes. Very similar issues here. I have no idea what to think. the version that 
 works best for me  is about a year old now. I wonder if there are any 
 alternatives to Airserver on the Mac side? It's disappointing because I have 
 my iMac connected to my entertainment center where my nice speakers are. I 
 want to be able to funnel all my sound there, but that isn't happening as of 
 right now for whatever reason ...
 --Al
 
 
 On 9/30/2012 4:56 PM, patricia solis wrote:
 Hi al,
 
  No not the only one. I'm also having problems  with Air Server. Not 
 with the audio  but with video. I  have an Imac  and running Mountain   Lion.
  It was working fine  until the  last 2 updates.
 
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Al Puzzuoli alp...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Just wondering if others are using Airserver? If so, how have your 
 experiences been? Mine have been spotty at best. When I try to Airplay from 
 my iPhone to my iMac, with most apps audio may not start at all, is choppy, 
 or stops altogether. MlB At Bat doesn't work at all, the iMac pops up an 
 airserver window with a URl and an unknown error code. I've played with 
 Airserver settings, audio buffers, etc, but to no avail.
 The interesting thing is, this iMac is running Bootcamp. if I boot into 
 Windows, I can run Shareport4w, a free Airplay utility, which works 
 perfectly. So, same iMac, same network. Shareport4w works flawelessly in 
 Windows, while Airserver under Mountain Lion gives me nothing but grief. 
 Anyone have any ideas?
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Yahoogroups

2012-10-01 Thread Chris

Hello all.
Just to report some good news that Yahoogroups works extremely well on 
the mac using Safari and Mountain Lion. I was able to do what I needed 
to do without difficulty and there was no sluggishness either.


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Re: Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

You can use adobe preview accessible version.

I bought a while ago a program called bookle. It should be accessible with 
VoiceOver, but there seems to be something to it, that I have missed. I have 
some navigation problems.

Best regards Annie.


Den Oct 1, 2012 kl. 2:46 PM skrev Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com:

 Does anyone know if iBooks Author can read epub books?
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:27 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There is (or was) Stanza, but it won't open drm-protected books, such as 
 Ibooks titles. It's very hard to get Stanza now, as all the links I've found 
 for it are either broken or hijacked.
 
 Teresa
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's an interesting background; I thought there was more to it than that. 
  Problem with using a browser is you can't do the kind of things that you 
 can do in iBooks like precise bookmarking, annotation, and browsers don't 
 keep their place like iBooks would do either.  I'm just surprised there 
 isn't an epub book reader for the mac.
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:01 AM, David Csercsics a...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Epub is just a fancy name for a zip file with the HTML book and some other 
 files specific to ebook readers. Why not just change the file extension to 
 .zip extract the archive and load index.html in your favourite browser.
 
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OT iTunes Gift Card Giveaway

2012-10-01 Thread Scott Rumery
The Twit That Tweets iTunes Gift Card Giveaway


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Re: Yahoogroups

2012-10-01 Thread Krysti .Power
Thanks for the info nice to know some things are now becomming accessiable
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Adobe Digital Editions Version

2012-10-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You don't need adobe preview. adobe 2.0 is accessible.

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wrote:

 Hi.
 
 You can use adobe preview accessible version.
 
 I bought a while ago a program called bookle. It should be accessible with 
 VoiceOver, but there seems to be something to it, that I have missed. I have 
 some navigation problems.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 

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Re: Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

No it can't.

hth

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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know if iBooks Author can read epub books?
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:27 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There is (or was) Stanza, but it won't open drm-protected books, such as 
 Ibooks titles. It's very hard to get Stanza now, as all the links I've found 
 for it are either broken or hijacked.
 
 Teresa
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's an interesting background; I thought there was more to it than that. 
  Problem with using a browser is you can't do the kind of things that you 
 can do in iBooks like precise bookmarking, annotation, and browsers don't 
 keep their place like iBooks would do either.  I'm just surprised there 
 isn't an epub book reader for the mac.
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:01 AM, David Csercsics a...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Epub is just a fancy name for a zip file with the HTML book and some other 
 files specific to ebook readers. Why not just change the file extension to 
 .zip extract the archive and load index.html in your favourite browser.
 
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Re: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread Scott Berry
Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So does 
Freedom Scientific.



Scott
On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:

This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
too.



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Re: iPad

2012-10-01 Thread Scott Berry

Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had control of the triple click home.



On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that 
out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the 
default lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure 
the Universal Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the 
Triple-Click toggle can be set.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net 
mailto:hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:



just hit the home button 3 times
On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard 
tapping settings/accessibility/voiceover.


Chris.

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Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if 
so there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com 
http://this.com who works primarily with visually impaired and has 
done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and how voiceover 
works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to 
Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his 
podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.


Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com 
mailto:mehg...@gmail.com wrote:


Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn 
it on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers 
on applevis.com http://applevis.com that might help. Googling 
specific questions will also help as there are many tutorials and 
articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for voiceover.
On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com 
mailto:beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:


Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad 
one and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so 
much, John


Cakes

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Re: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hello out there. 
I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new to the Mac 
and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past weekend. The inputs are 
actually doing better than I was having with my Focus 40. I didn't have 
ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This display also can be a stand-alone 
device. It doesn't go on the Internet like say my PacMate in theory does, but I 
decided I didn't need that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone. 

So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone and 
having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the Braille 
display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may have to inquiffe 
about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating so far, and I didn't have 
the same problem with the Mac. I've only had it since Friday, so maybe I'm 
doing something wrong. If anybody has any ideas, please let me know. 
Regards, 
Gigi 


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So does 
 Freedom Scientific.
 
 
 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
 has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
 using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
 is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
 too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-01 Thread John Panarese
Are you sure this is still available.  I went to the link and there is no 
dmg file to be found.  Of course, user error could be afoot, but I can only 
find info that says the game is not yet avilable for the Mac.


Take Care

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On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game for 
 the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
 available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Re: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread Marianne Denning
Scott, I think I have narrowed it down to either the Brailliant 40 or
Focus 40.  Since he uses JAWS the Focus 40 may be the better choice.
That is what I am hoping to learn.

On 10/1/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 Hello out there.
 I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new to the
 Mac and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past weekend. The inputs
 are actually doing better than I was having with my Focus 40. I didn't have
 ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This display also can be a stand-alone
 device. It doesn't go on the Internet like say my PacMate in theory does,
 but I decided I didn't need that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone.

 So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone and
 having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the Braille
 display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may have to
 inquiffe about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating so far, and I
 didn't have the same problem with the Mac. I've only had it since Friday, so
 maybe I'm doing something wrong. If anybody has any ideas, please let me
 know.
 Regards,
 Gigi


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So does
 Freedom Scientific.


 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
 has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
 using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
 is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
 too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
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RE: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread M. Taylor
Marianne,

I strongly recommend the Focus since your student is a Jaws user.  

There are definite user advantages to using the Focus with Jaws such as
being able to set the level of Braille firmness.  This is one of my favorite
features.  

I also like the ability to reverse the Braille panning directions on the
Focus.  I am not certain if this is a Focus specific setting in Jaws, but it
is definitely a proverbial game changer for me.

Mark



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: braille display

Scott, I think I have narrowed it down to either the Brailliant 40 or Focus
40.  Since he uses JAWS the Focus 40 may be the better choice.
That is what I am hoping to learn.

On 10/1/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 Hello out there.
 I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new 
 to the Mac and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past 
 weekend. The inputs are actually doing better than I was having with 
 my Focus 40. I didn't have ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This 
 display also can be a stand-alone device. It doesn't go on the 
 Internet like say my PacMate in theory does, but I decided I didn't need
that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone.

 So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone 
 and having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the 
 Braille display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may 
 have to inquiffe about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating 
 so far, and I didn't have the same problem with the Mac. I've only had 
 it since Friday, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. If anybody has 
 any ideas, please let me know.
 Regards,
 Gigi


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So 
 does Freedom Scientific.


 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am 
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This 
 student has excellent skills with access technology.  The student 
 will be using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 
 7.  JAWS is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display 
 but not too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell
display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote 
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-01 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Indeed, I also found no DMG file.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:02 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

Are you sure this is still available.  I went to the link and there is no 
 dmg file to be found.  Of course, user error could be afoot, but I can only 
 find info that says the game is not yet avilable for the Mac.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 Twitter, @macfortheblind
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game 
 for the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the 
 page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
 available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-01 Thread Maria Chapman
does that mean the game is coming though? that would be pretty cool.

God Bless! Maria from australia
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Are you sure this is still available.  I went to the link and there is no 
 dmg file to be found.  Of course, user error could be afoot, but I can only 
 find info that says the game is not yet avilable for the Mac.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 Twitter, @macfortheblind
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game 
 for the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the 
 page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
 available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
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 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Re: formatting Text in Pages

2012-10-01 Thread Christopher Edwards

Hello Anne,

Thank you for all this information. I think I need to spend a lot of time 
with Pages and get much more experienced with VO. That is probably going to 
be a bit of a problem given what is going on here at the moment. Anyway, I 
will see what I can do.


Many thanks,

Chris



One question though, how would I assign
- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: formatting Text in Pages


Hello Chris,

In Pages, leaving the text area using VO removes the selection so you can't 
apply a style. You have to set a hotkey for the style you want and just 
press it in the paragraph to which it should apply.


You can check on what style is in operation by setting a hotspot on the 
Styles drawer. To do this, open the Styles drawer with Cmd-Shift-t, navigate 
to it, make sure that you're not interacting with it and set a hotspot. You 
can then use VO-Cmd-hotspot to discover what is selected in the Styles 
drawer.


If you can't navigate within any text area, go there with VO, bring the 
mouse and click.


There is a lot more than that to using Pages but it should help to get you 
started.


Cheers,

Anne


On 1 Oct 2012, at 01:00, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


Thanks to all who answered my questions. I am sorry I did not reply before 
but I am up to my ears in boxes as I prepare for some major alterations to 
my house. I am therefore also behind with my emails.


I think I gave rather a bad example with something as simple as making 
text bold. I am in the UK and wrote the message at the end of a long and 
tiring day. I will therefore give a very specific example.


I type some text in the body of a document and then stop interacting with 
the various parts of the document as I make my way back to the formatting 
bar and choose the paragraph style button.


Firstly I cannot read any of the items on the menu that appears as VO says 
absolutely nothing. I did this at the Apple store and the trainer told me 
the style and confirmed that it had been applied.


Then, when I went back into the document and interacted with the various 
parts until I got to the body of the text I could not read the text I had 
previously entered. I simply got a dong sound when moving either the VO 
cursor or the actual cursor. This was because the actual text entry cursor 
would not move any further than the header section of the document. We 
tried doing everything we could think of with the cursor tracking but to 
no avail.


I know there are some issues with Pages and Voiceover but I cannot believe 
they are this bad. I am sure I am doing something very simple that is 
wrong so please can anyone tell me what it is?


Once again, many thanks,

Chris Edwards



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Re: iPad

2012-10-01 Thread Pam Francis
Hi folks,
I got my iphone 4s on Friday. I hit tripple click home right out of the box. It 
worked. It also worked with my ipad II purchase last summer. The previous 
poster must have a 1st gen ipad.

Pam Francis

On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had   control of the triple click home.



On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
 Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing 
 that out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default 
 lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal 
 Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle 
 can be set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so there 
 is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
 visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and 
 how voiceover   works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go 
 through   there podcasts section, you will find your share of 
 podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can 
 find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: go 
 to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From there, 
 use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that 
 might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many 
 tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for 
 voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one and 
 needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
 
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downloading actual youtube videos?

2012-10-01 Thread Maria Chapman
Hi.  I have youtube to mp3 converter, which works well.  I'm working on a 
presentation i have to do though, and was hoping to include some clips in the 
presentation.  Because I'm presenting to sighted people I'd like to know if 
it's possible to download the whole video somehow with the mac.  

thanks

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Re: protected pdf

2012-10-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I just bought a protected pdf from Kobo. I can't access it yet because the 
website says it has had trouble contacting the retailer but I've already got my 
receipts fromKobo and Paypal so it's just a matter of time. This is a book I 
want to read and I will be using my Mac so I will report back.


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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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Re: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.
The brailliant display has in my opinion much better braille cells. The 
brailliant has a much better carrying case, it can not fall out, the focus can 
fall out of the bag. You can have the brailliant display sitting on your knees, 
that can be a little insecure with the focus. There are some advantages with 
the focus as well, but to me the braille cells seems noisy.

I sometimes wonder why most blind people are choosing 40 cells braille 
displays. I feel much better with something like 32 cells, and it is a little 
more handy too.

The only thing I do not like about brailliant is that I sometimes experience 
problems with the bluetooth conectivity on IPhone, but maybe that has been 
solved on IPhone 5, it looks like there has been some improvements in IOS 6.

I am both using brailliant and focus. It is important that your student tries 
the displays, because it is so different how the display works for individuals.
Best regards Annie.
 
Den Oct 2, 2012 kl. 12:29 AM skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:

 Marianne,
 
 I strongly recommend the Focus since your student is a Jaws user.  
 
 There are definite user advantages to using the Focus with Jaws such as
 being able to set the level of Braille firmness.  This is one of my favorite
 features.  
 
 I also like the ability to reverse the Braille panning directions on the
 Focus.  I am not certain if this is a Focus specific setting in Jaws, but it
 is definitely a proverbial game changer for me.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 3:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: braille display
 
 Scott, I think I have narrowed it down to either the Brailliant 40 or Focus
 40.  Since he uses JAWS the Focus 40 may be the better choice.
 That is what I am hoping to learn.
 
 On 10/1/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 Hello out there.
 I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new 
 to the Mac and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past 
 weekend. The inputs are actually doing better than I was having with 
 my Focus 40. I didn't have ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This 
 display also can be a stand-alone device. It doesn't go on the 
 Internet like say my PacMate in theory does, but I decided I didn't need
 that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone.
 
 So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone 
 and having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the 
 Braille display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may 
 have to inquiffe about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating 
 so far, and I didn't have the same problem with the Mac. I've only had 
 it since Friday, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. If anybody has 
 any ideas, please let me know.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So 
 does Freedom Scientific.
 
 
 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am 
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This 
 student has excellent skills with access technology.  The student 
 will be using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 
 7.  JAWS is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display 
 but not too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell
 display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote 
 too.
 
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Re: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread Kaare Dehard
The Brailliant is pretty good, I like the braille. This is however the first 
display I've owned myself and had access to for more than a half hour or so. 
Moving from speech to braille has been a bit of a shift and I'll begin another 
thread, but all in all a good experience.
On 2012-10-01, at 9:00 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 The brailliant display has in my opinion much better braille cells. The 
 brailliant has a much better carrying case, it can not fall out, the focus 
 can fall out of the bag. You can have the brailliant display sitting on your 
 knees, that can be a little insecure with the focus. There are some 
 advantages with the focus as well, but to me the braille cells seems noisy.
 
 I sometimes wonder why most blind people are choosing 40 cells braille 
 displays. I feel much better with something like 32 cells, and it is a little 
 more handy too.
 
 The only thing I do not like about brailliant is that I sometimes experience 
 problems with the bluetooth conectivity on IPhone, but maybe that has been 
 solved on IPhone 5, it looks like there has been some improvements in IOS 6.
 
 I am both using brailliant and focus. It is important that your student tries 
 the displays, because it is so different how the display works for 
 individuals.
 Best regards Annie.
 
 Den Oct 2, 2012 kl. 12:29 AM skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:
 
 Marianne,
 
 I strongly recommend the Focus since your student is a Jaws user.  
 
 There are definite user advantages to using the Focus with Jaws such as
 being able to set the level of Braille firmness.  This is one of my favorite
 features.  
 
 I also like the ability to reverse the Braille panning directions on the
 Focus.  I am not certain if this is a Focus specific setting in Jaws, but it
 is definitely a proverbial game changer for me.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 3:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: braille display
 
 Scott, I think I have narrowed it down to either the Brailliant 40 or Focus
 40.  Since he uses JAWS the Focus 40 may be the better choice.
 That is what I am hoping to learn.
 
 On 10/1/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 Hello out there.
 I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new 
 to the Mac and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past 
 weekend. The inputs are actually doing better than I was having with 
 my Focus 40. I didn't have ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This 
 display also can be a stand-alone device. It doesn't go on the 
 Internet like say my PacMate in theory does, but I decided I didn't need
 that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone.
 
 So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone 
 and having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the 
 Braille display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may 
 have to inquiffe about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating 
 so far, and I didn't have the same problem with the Mac. I've only had 
 it since Friday, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. If anybody has 
 any ideas, please let me know.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So 
 does Freedom Scientific.
 
 
 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am 
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This 
 student has excellent skills with access technology.  The student 
 will be using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 
 7.  JAWS is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display 
 but not too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell
 display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote 
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Hiding Tabs in Safari

2012-10-01 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Hello everyone,

When I assign certain web sites to the bookmarks bar, so when pressing 
command-1,2, or 3, ETC to launch, these sites appear as tabs on my screen.
How can I remove the viewing of these tabs? I don't want them to appear because 
I already know where they are assigned to. I never know how I accomplished this 
when using Snow Leopard because I was a new Mac user, so I never bothered with 
learning how to disable or hide this because I accomplished it unknowingly.
Any tip I am overlooking or not considering would be wonderfully appreciated.

Thank you all for your help.

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Brailliant bi 40 and opening a links list

2012-10-01 Thread Kaare Dehard
Hi folks, any users of the above display or similar know how to get a links 
list through the braille keyboard? I can't seem to get that navigation down. Is 
it part of the stock list of commands, or is it one that requires customization?

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Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-01 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Bookle is an accessible app for reading DRM free ePub books on the Mac. It can 
be found in the Mac app store.

I agree there should be a Mac app for reading DRM protected books on the Mac. 
It's strange Apple hasn't brought out iBooks for the Mac. It's a shame too, as 
I quite like iBooks.

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Re: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread Scott Berry
Exactly what do you need to know. Also please keep me in the loop as to 
what happens when this student gets the display and how it works.  I am 
trying to start a store in Montana for the blind and low vision.  Trying 
to sell items for low vision and the blind since there is nothing here 
for blind and low vision really.




On 10/1/2012 04:18 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:

Scott, I think I have narrowed it down to either the Brailliant 40 or
Focus 40.  Since he uses JAWS the Focus 40 may be the better choice.
That is what I am hoping to learn.

On 10/1/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

Hello out there.
I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new to the
Mac and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past weekend. The inputs
are actually doing better than I was having with my Focus 40. I didn't have
ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This display also can be a stand-alone
device. It doesn't go on the Internet like say my PacMate in theory does,
but I decided I didn't need that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone.

So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone and
having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the Braille
display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may have to
inquiffe about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating so far, and I
didn't have the same problem with the Mac. I've only had it since Friday, so
maybe I'm doing something wrong. If anybody has any ideas, please let me
know.
Regards,
Gigi


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:


Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So does
Freedom Scientific.


Scott
On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:

This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
too.

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Re: braille display

2012-10-01 Thread Scott Berry

I certainly agree with your statement.



On 10/1/2012 07:00 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

Hi.
The brailliant display has in my opinion much better braille cells. The 
brailliant has a much better carrying case, it can not fall out, the focus can 
fall out of the bag. You can have the brailliant display sitting on your knees, 
that can be a little insecure with the focus. There are some advantages with 
the focus as well, but to me the braille cells seems noisy.

I sometimes wonder why most blind people are choosing 40 cells braille 
displays. I feel much better with something like 32 cells, and it is a little 
more handy too.

The only thing I do not like about brailliant is that I sometimes experience 
problems with the bluetooth conectivity on IPhone, but maybe that has been 
solved on IPhone 5, it looks like there has been some improvements in IOS 6.

I am both using brailliant and focus. It is important that your student tries 
the displays, because it is so different how the display works for individuals.
Best regards Annie.
  
Den Oct 2, 2012 kl. 12:29 AM skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:



Marianne,

I strongly recommend the Focus since your student is a Jaws user.

There are definite user advantages to using the Focus with Jaws such as
being able to set the level of Braille firmness.  This is one of my favorite
features.

I also like the ability to reverse the Braille panning directions on the
Focus.  I am not certain if this is a Focus specific setting in Jaws, but it
is definitely a proverbial game changer for me.

Mark



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: braille display

Scott, I think I have narrowed it down to either the Brailliant 40 or Focus
40.  Since he uses JAWS the Focus 40 may be the better choice.
That is what I am hoping to learn.

On 10/1/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

Hello out there.
I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new
to the Mac and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past
weekend. The inputs are actually doing better than I was having with
my Focus 40. I didn't have ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This
display also can be a stand-alone device. It doesn't go on the
Internet like say my PacMate in theory does, but I decided I didn't need

that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone.

So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone
and having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the
Braille display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may
have to inquiffe about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating
so far, and I didn't have the same problem with the Mac. I've only had
it since Friday, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. If anybody has
any ideas, please let me know.
Regards,
Gigi


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:


Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So
does Freedom Scientific.


Scott
On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:

This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This
student has excellent skills with access technology.  The student
will be using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows
7.  JAWS is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display
but not too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell

display.

Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
too.

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Take Control eBooks' September Sale

2012-10-01 Thread Nicholas Parsons
The sale has been extended to Wednesday 3 October.

Also, and more importantly, Take Control have an accessible version of their 
catalog. It can be found here:
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-accessible

This is just a complete list of all their books in an accessible table. It is 
much easier to navigate.

The only problem with the accessible catalog is that discounts and sales are 
not applied automatically. You need to enter the voucher code manually. 
However, if you don't have this code, you can simply email Take Control Books 
and ask for the code, explaining that you are using the accessible version of 
their catalog. They are very helpful especially if you ask nicely.

Best,
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Basic Cocoa Programming

2012-10-01 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks CJ and Steve!

I'll check these out. I have an international Bookshare membership and I 
believe I've seen those O'Reily books before in some search results, so 
hopefully I can get them. Thanks for the great suggestions!

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Trouble Interacting with the HTML Area in Messages

2012-10-01 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks, Gavin! That method seems to be working now, although it's probably too 
early to know for sure. Great work around.
Thanks,
Nic

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Sharing Reminder Lists in Mountain Lion 10.8.2.

2012-10-01 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks, Ioana! That worked perfectly just as you said. And for the record, it's 
just a VO Space that is required on that unlabelled button. I guess the button 
is the broadcast button that Apple speaks of in it's instructions.
This is such a cool new feature.
Thanks again!
Nic
  

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moving and renaming?

2012-10-01 Thread Kliphton
Could someone remind me how to move and rename a file on the mac?

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Re: iPad

2012-10-01 Thread Beefcakes
Hi all, I'm the guy who wrote about a friends iPad. Actually she does have a 
first generation iPad. So she's trying to learn how she can access it, if  it 
has vo on itif etcetera. Anyway thanks for all the help everybody, you guys are 
great! John

Cakes

On Oct 1, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had   control of the triple click 
 home.
 
 
 
 On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
 VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the 
 box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately. 
  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access 
 options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be 
 set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily 
 with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS 
 software and how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go 
 through there podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts 
 relating to Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his 
 podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com   
 wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: 
 go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
 there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com 
 that might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are 
 many tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple 
 documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one and 
 needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
 
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Re: OT iTunes Gift Card Giveaway

2012-10-01 Thread Timothy Clark Music
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 i think i'm going to send this message and then read my bible. good day
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How to start with Numbers?

2012-10-01 Thread Agent086b
Hello, I have just downloaded Numbers. I need to access and make changes to 
existing Excel documents.
I can load the documents ok. How do I get in to the columns and rows  in the 
spreadsheet? 
I have tried to interact with the document all with no luck.
Thanks again as always for any help 
Max.

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