date:20141021

If I am not mistaken, the radio buttons which control whether you have songs or 
album view are now to the left of the main types of library view.  Could be 
mistaken as I'm still getting used to the new ITunes view which, I must say, I 
rather  like.

Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Gerry Cook gerryc...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi all using yosanity on a MacBook Pro,  using voiceover, previous versions 
 of iTunes i was able to copy songs out of the library, and paste them, on to 
 the iPhone having tried today without success, it seems not possible with 
 this latest iTunes. Any help would be appreciated 
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no luck with enhanced dictation

Hi all,

I'm having no problem with standard text dictation in a document, but can't 
seem to get enhanced dictation to work, i.e. can't run the computer using voice 
commands.  Enhanced dictation has been checked and downloaded.  Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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weird iCloud issue since upgrading to Yosemite

Hi all,

Since my upgrade, I am being prompted to enter the password for an old Apple ID 
that is no longer active.  I'm also getting messages that my Mac can't connect 
to iCloud because it doesn't have that password.  I've tried going into iCloud 
prefs, but I don't see anyway to change from that apple ID to my current one.  
Anyone know of a solution?
thanks,
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my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

Okay.

For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I tend to 
like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love that messages 
are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's while navigating 
through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I notice it for sure.  
Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I guess until Apple gets it 
fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, however, that most of my boundary 
sounds appear to have gone.  When I go VO left or right through windows to and 
away from tool bars, and so forth, nost of the little sounds just are not 
there.  Can't figure how to bring them back.  One thing I did notice right away 
is that the new sounds appear to be softer, and, the sounds for Mail have 
defintently been updated to match the iPhone sounds.  Yeah, for a first 
release, not too bad.  Now, the new iTunes view?  Wow!  I see what some people 
are complaining about:  still and all, I poked around enough with it last night 
to figure most of it out:  or else, figure out enough that the rest should not 
be that hard.  Wow!  They sure did change where stuff is.  I don't like that it 
reorganized my albums for me but, I'll just have to polk around in there till I 
get my album order back the way I want it.  So yeah, like I said before, not 
half bad for a first out of the gate type of release.


Sincerely,
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Re: voice commands on yosemite

2014-10-21 Thread Jessica Moss

Join the club, that would be amazing, now if they could get all the bugs worked 
out of IOS8, especially the one that makes it reboot every 2 seconds, that 
would be great.  I just got a new 5C, which hasn't been updated yet, and have 
held of for that verry reason.
On Oct 21, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know.  After everyone told me about it I went to activate it.  I can't 
 believe I didn't know about this.  I love it.  I just hope that hopefully in 
 os x 10.11 next os x we get siri.  Every release is bringing mac os x and iOS 
 closer together, which one day might become one system.
 
 
 Juan Hernandez
 Email:  juanhernande...@gmail.com
 Cell:  619-750-9431
 Follow me at:  http://www.twitter.com/blindwiz
 friend me at:  http://www.facebook.com/blindwiz
 Web site:  http://www.juanhernandez.me
 
 
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Dictation is a little more powerful than simply translating the spoken word 
 into text.  If you turn on Enhanced Dictation in the Dictation pane of 
 System Prefs, and go under the Dictation portion of the Accessibility pane, 
 you can switch apps, quit apps, open documents, select text and more.  
 Haven't played with it much but it is there.  Sort of like the old Speakable 
 Items service but not as robust as Siri.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Moutain Lion and above had a dictation feature, but that's the closest to 
 voice command as they had built into it.
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't there have been siri like command structure in mac os x at 
 anytime, or lat least in the last 3-4 releases.  but I could be wrong.
 
 Best,
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Isn't that the domain of speakable items or has that changed or been 
 eliminated? As far as I know, issuing commands to your computer hasn't 
 been a part of dictation but maybe I missed out on this.
   
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dictation is enabled for me but unless I'm in a edit field, I cannot ue 
 it. How can one make commands if they are not in a edit field? I didn't 
 see anything about voice commands in dictation either.
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 11:28 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Apple has so much broken this OS. I have no idea why they would think 
 of releasing it without having paid more attention to what they were 
 doing.
 I wrote this to the accessibility email address, even though it may not 
 be totally their fault, I can't believe they don't have some input into 
 what goes into their new OS.
 
 Hello,
 I am extremely disappointed with the lack of attention paid to 
 accessibility in your latest OS10 release.
 You overhauled the look of your software, while not thinking of those 
 of us who have grown to trust you with our accessibility needs.
 I know many visually impaired beta testers, most under NDA with you per 
 each release of both desktop  IOS software.
 I realize we are a minority in the big picture of your customer base. 
 However, if one has paid money to participate in  your testers program 
  is paid lipservice to what is reported, what good are the testers? 
 Has the quality control suffered because the upgrades are now free? 
 Aren't we as a disability community owed a description of what we can 
 expect in terms we understand? It looks pretty, but acts very much like 
 something from a crackerjack box.
 I can't get to my music in Itunes because the views I have become used 
 to have disappeared. There is no more sidebar.
 In spotlight search, which is supposed to search for references outside 
 my Mac, I hear either the words button or image in the search results.
 How is this useful to me or anyone who would try to use it with no 
 vision?
 As I stated earlier, there are those who have been under NDA to attempt 
 to alert you of the issues before release. Those same people had enough 
 respect for their contracts to not divulge issues that may concern the 
 rest of us. However, in return we all got slapped in the face.
 There is a site that gathers bugs, along with other content. 
 In case you are interested go to www.applevis.com
 As has been shown, I doubt any of this will be taken to heart. 
 I can only hope.
 My next computer, if I need one will be a Windows machine. They are 
 cheaper, maybe a

Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Jonathan Mosen

Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at least 
on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of mavericks was. 
Plenty to enjoy.
There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally skipped 
references to it.
I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've been 
away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants before 
I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it was of 
interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd prefer to do 
is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to hear the 
participants, they could be spoken second.
When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
Thanks.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.

Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized right 
too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see the logic 
behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I tend 
 to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love that 
 messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's while 
 navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I notice it 
 for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I guess until 
 Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, however, that most 
 of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go VO left or right 
 through windows to and away from tool bars, and so forth, nost of the little 
 sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to bring them back.  One thing I 
 did notice right away is that the new sounds appear to be softer, and, the 
 sounds for Mail have defintently been updated to match the iPhone sounds.  
 Yeah, for a first release, not too bad.  Now, the new iTunes view?  Wow!  I 
 see what some people are complaining about:  still and all, I poked around 
 enough with it last night to figure most of it out:  or else, figure out 
 enough that the rest should not be that hard.  Wow!  They sure did change 
 where stuff is.  I don't like that it reorganized my albums for me but, I'll 
 just have to polk around in there till I get my album order back the way I 
 want it.  So yeah, like I said before, not half bad for a first out of the 
 gate type of release.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 
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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Malver

One of the things I miss about Outlook, and love about the Mac, is that it 
tells you how many messages are in a thread. Does this still happening in 
Yosemite? If so, is the message count given before any other information?

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to hear 
 the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
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Re: Copying the text from iBooks

2014-10-21 Thread Devin Prater

Yes, it is. Just select, copy, and paste as usual. 

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 20, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Is it possible under Yosemite to copy some text from an iBook? I am thinking 
 about cookbooks in particular, where I might want to copy a recipe, pasted 
 into an email message or a wordprocessing document, and save it.
 Mary
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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

Yes, you get informed how many messages are in a thread.  Just press right 
arrow alone to expand a thread.  Thing is, I have noticed that when a thread is 
expanded, you don't get informed about whether or not individual messages 
inside that thread are read or not.  When you close it back up again, you get 
either unread or nothing.  Individual messages not part of a thread are marked 
as to read or unread.


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One of the things I miss about Outlook, and love about the Mac, is that it 
 tells you how many messages are in a thread. Does this still happening in 
 Yosemite? If so, is the message count given before any other information?
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
 hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
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Re: Strange problem with accessing my airport extreme

2014-10-21 Thread Joseph

Hello,
Yes. Download the airport app from the app store and it's completely accessible 
when using VoiceOver.

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 12:08 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Can you access your airport from your i device.
 I seldom use airport utility on the mac but on my iphone.
 /A
 20 okt 2014 kl. 18:45 skrev Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com:
 
 Hello,
 Hello Tim,
 Here's the situation thus far.
 I used command shift o to log into the airport, it displayed 10.0.1.1 but it 
 wouldn't take either my base station password or my wireless password.
 Hummm!
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It could have something to do with your network being hidden.  That 
 shouldn't matter, but it's a possibility.  For now, try connecting to it 
 manually.  When in Network, System Preferences, determine the IP address of 
 your Airport.  If it's not easily visible on the main page of your Network 
 pane, press on the Advanced button and then select the TCP/IP tab.  The 
 router's IP will be listed there.  It is usually 192.168.1.1 or 10.0.1.1.  
 When in Airport Utility,, press cmd-shift-o which allows you to access 
 Airports directly.  You'll likely need to enter your setup password as 
 well.  If this lets you in, then good.  If not, I'll have to think harder.  
 In either case, it sounds like a bug report to Apple is necessary.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Tim,
 When I go to system prefs and network, it has my hidden home network 
 listed as the active network.
 Do you perhaps have any suggestions?
 Thanks.
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Airport Utility is working fine for me either when accessing from within 
 my network or from a totally external environment.  Not sure why yours 
 isn't working.  The usual situations when I've seen that sort of 
 behaviour is when you're not actually connected to the network that you 
 think you are.  For example, your Mac has grabbed signal from your 
 neighbour's WiFi, thus, your Internet works fine but seeing your Airport 
 or Airports is not available since you're on a different network.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello list,
 For some reason, I'm no longer able to completely access my airport 
 extreme configurations. Last Thursday I updated the OS on my iMac and 
 now when I launch Airport, I see internet working normally but I am 
 unable to access configurations. Also the app says that it cant find any 
 airport configurations. Well, that's really strange, because I'm 
 emailing this message through my extreme and it appears to be working 
 just fine. Both ethernet and wirelessly. Just cant access and change 
 configurations.
 I'm curious to know if anyone else is having this problem. You know, in 
 a few weeks I plan on purchasing a new time capsule. But if I won't even 
 be able to set it up, why spend the money?
 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-21 Thread Rich Ring

I don’t believe that anyone should be slammed because something isn’t working 
for them, however, I just did 3 spotlight searches, and each time what I looked 
for was located. I don’t know why this is not working for other people, I can 
only document my personal experiences. I am not noticing any major VoiceOver 
lag either. Now, I will say that I preferred the previous version of iTunes, 
however, it appears to be accessible, just different!

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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 On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
 here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have attempted 
 to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but what I'm 
 looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for complaining to 
 Apple for fear there are those who will lose their accessibility. At this 
 particular juncture in my opinion they lost an integral part of what the OS 
 was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to be able to see the screen, yet 
 it does no good to use my key commands to get where I need to go. Apple is 
 more concerned about aesthetics then they are functionality with reference to 
 how their current OS works. If we don't ask questions, stand up for  what we 
 need we will ultimately lose what we have. Those who are  currently taking me 
 to task now will be truly whining.. The difference is, you know me, they 
 don't.
 Pam Francis .
 
 On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
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 wrote:
 I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
 Yosemite.
  
 As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
 from Bing, using Spotlight.
  
 So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
 in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
  
 Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
 there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
 this is supposed to be the way that it works.
 Thanks.
  
  
 
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Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

2014-10-21 Thread 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries

According to documentation, performing a search term is Spotlight should bring 
up Wikipedia entries, map data, possible dictionary definitions, and a host of 
results.

I was able to verify that typing in the term Starbucks into Spotlight brought 
no results, and the message appeared visually on the screen as well: No results.

All checkboxes are checked in all 21 categories in Spotlight preferences, disk 
permissions have been performed, and so on,

so I’m really curious as to why some terms bring up absolutely no results.
This does not appear to be an accessibility issue, just some kind of 
performance issue or quirk.
Thanks for any thoughts.

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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

Hi guys
I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had to 
call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too far. 
Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to come on. 
When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing the 
password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My sighted 
husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver wouldn't let me 
get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 

Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so that 
I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on here, but 
I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this morning 
should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht eh 
accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this happen like 
this again. 

Gigi 

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized right 
 too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see the logic 
 behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I tend 
 to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love that 
 messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's while 
 navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I notice it 
 for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I guess until 
 Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, however, that most 
 of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go VO left or right 
 through windows to and away from tool bars, and so forth, nost of the little 
 sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to bring them back.  One thing 
 I did notice right away is that the new sounds appear to be softer, and, the 
 sounds for Mail have defintently been updated to match the iPhone sounds.  
 Yeah, for a first release, not too bad.  Now, the new iTunes view?  Wow!  I 
 see what some people are complaining about:  still and all, I poked around 
 enough with it last night to figure most of it out:  or else, figure out 
 enough that the rest should not be that hard.  Wow!  They sure did change 
 where stuff is.  I don't like that it reorganized my albums for me but, I'll 
 just have to polk around in there till I get my album order back the way I 
 want it.  So yeah, like I said before, not half bad for a first out of the 
 gate type of release.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 
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Re: starting a new conversation in messages

Hi,

Another method is to VO-space on the Compose button within the Messages window, 
then enter the recipient’s contact info in the To field.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 To start a new message from within the Messages app press command N, which 
 creates a new conversation, then start typing the contact you wish to 
 message. I did have to restart my Mac after updating my iPhone to get this 
 feature to work. 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone found a reliable way to initiate a new conversation in messages? 
 I am trying to compose a new message to test out the sms forwarding feature 
 with IOS 8.1 but I can’t even find a way to do that.
 
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Re: weird iCloud issue since upgrading to Yosemite

Hi,

Try going into system Preferences, Internet Accounts.  Select the offending 
iCloud account then press on the Delete This Account.  If you're unable to 
remove it for various reasons, try going to www.icloud.com 
http://www.icloud.com/ and resetting the password for that iCloud account.  
Once the password is reset and usable, you can make your new account the 
primary.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Since my upgrade, I am being prompted to enter the password for an old Apple 
 ID that is no longer active.  I'm also getting messages that my Mac can't 
 connect to iCloud because it doesn't have that password.  I've tried going 
 into iCloud prefs, but I don't see anyway to change from that apple ID to my 
 current one.  Anyone know of a solution?
 thanks,
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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

2014-10-21 Thread Cheryl Homiak

For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If you 
get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is always 
20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password wasn'taccepted, 
if that is what happened, one of the choices would have been to entr your 
password and unencrypt. Then it just lets you reboot and sign in right away. As 
for the battery running down, I suppose you would have to set it to go to sleep 
before that happens. Right now I have decided not to use file vault especially 
because of the keyboard support issues.
  
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had to 
 call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
 trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too far. 
 Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to come 
 on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing the 
 password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My sighted 
 husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver wouldn't let me 
 get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this 
 morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht eh 
 accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this happen 
 like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized right 
 too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see the 
 logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I tend 
 to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love that 
 messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's while 
 navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I notice 
 it for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I guess 
 until Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, however, 
 that most of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go VO left or 
 right through windows to and away from tool bars, and so forth, nost of the 
 little sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to bring them back.  
 One thing I did notice right away is that the new sounds appear to be 
 softer, and, the sounds for Mail have defintently been updated to match the 
 iPhone sounds.  Yeah, for a first release, not too bad.  Now, the new 
 iTunes view?  Wow!  I see what some people are complaining about:  still 
 and all, I poked around enough with it last night to figure most of it out: 
  or else, figure out enough that the rest should not be that hard.  Wow!  
 They sure did change where stuff is.  I don't like that it reorganized my 
 albums for me but, I'll just have to polk around in there till I get my 
 album order back the way I want it.  So yeah, like I said before, not half 
 bad for a first out of the gate type of release.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 
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Re: no luck with enhanced dictation

Hi,

Did you try going into the Accessibility pane of system Prefs, pressing the 
Dictation Commands button then checking the box to Enable Advanced Dictation 
commands?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm having no problem with standard text dictation in a document, but can't 
 seem to get enhanced dictation to work, i.e. can't run the computer using 
 voice commands.  Enhanced dictation has been checked and downloaded.  Any 
 suggestions?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

Hi,

Spotlight appears to work as it should for me as well.  Initially, the default 
for the Search location appeared to be in the folder location that I was in, 
so, it wasn’t finding what I wanted it to find.  Once I changed it to “this 
Mac”, the search results populated fine.  I was able to narrow the results 
easily by changing the “Kind” to Application or Document producing a more 
manageable number of results.  I must not have used Spotlight in the same 
manner as those who are finding it frustrating as I’ve found it not 
particularly different than previous versions, so far.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:42 AM, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t believe that anyone should be slammed because something isn’t working 
 for them, however, I just did 3 spotlight searches, and each time what I 
 looked for was located. I don’t know why this is not working for other 
 people, I can only document my personal experiences. I am not noticing any 
 major VoiceOver lag either. Now, I will say that I preferred the previous 
 version of iTunes, however, it appears to be accessible, just different!
 
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
 richr...@gmail.com mailto:richr...@gmail.com
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
 here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
 attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
 what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
 complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
 accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
 integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
 be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to get 
 where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they are 
 functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't ask 
 questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we have. 
 Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly whining.. The 
 difference is, you know me, they don't.
 Pam Francis .
 
 On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 wrote:
 I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
 Yosemite.
  
 As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
 from Bing, using Spotlight.
  
 So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
 in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
  
 Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
 there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
 this is supposed to be the way that it works.
 Thanks.
  
  
 
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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

If I had a choice for unencrypting, I never found it. My computer was asleep 
when the battery went down, or at least it didn't have enough power when I 
opened it back up again. I consider myself fairly computer literate, but I 
guess at some point I did the wrong thing somewhere and got myself into 
trouble. I only have my Mac keyboard, so that didn't seem to be my trouble. I 
just knew my computer had erased itself, thinking some crook had got hold of 
it. At least for now, I think FileVault is too much security for me because my 
computer will secure itself against me. 

Gigi 

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If you 
 get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is always 
 20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password wasn'taccepted, 
 if that is what happened, one of the choices would have been to entr your 
 password and unencrypt. Then it just lets you reboot and sign in right away. 
 As for the battery running down, I suppose you would have to set it to go to 
 sleep before that happens. Right now I have decided not to use file vault 
 especially because of the keyboard support issues.
   
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com 
 mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had to 
 call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
 trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too 
 far. Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to 
 come on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing 
 the password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My 
 sighted husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver 
 wouldn't let me get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this 
 morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht eh 
 accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this happen 
 like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized right 
 too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see the 
 logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I 
 tend to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love 
 that messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's 
 while navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I 
 notice it for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I 
 guess until Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, 
 however, that most of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go 
 VO left or right through windows to and away from tool bars, and so forth, 
 nost of the little sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to bring 
 them back.  One thing I did notice right away is that the new sounds 
 appear to be softer, and, the sounds for Mail have defintently been 
 updated to match the iPhone sounds.  Yeah, for a first release, not too 
 bad.  Now, the new iTunes view?  Wow!  I see what some people are 
 complaining about:  still and all, I poked around enough with it last 
 night to figure most of it out:  or else, figure out enough that the rest 
 should not be that hard.  Wow!  They sure did change where stuff is.  I 
 don't like that it reorganized my albums for me but, I'll just have to 
 polk around in there till I get my album order back the way I want it.  So 
 yeah, like I said before, not half bad for a first out of the gate type of 
 release.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly

Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

Hi,

Hmmm.  I did the same as you entering “Starbucks” into my Entry field.  The 
first result was your message, then I could arrow down through various other 
references to Starbucks that it found.  Interestingly enough, I had more than a 
dozen references to Starbucks in various eMails and no others on my computer.  
Another interesting thing is that it did not display any Internet or Wikipedia 
results, which is likely false as I would venture to say that Starbucks should 
show up quite a bit around the Net.  Probably some setting I need to manipulate.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 According to documentation, performing a search term is Spotlight should 
 bring up Wikipedia entries, map data, possible dictionary definitions, and a 
 host of results.
  
 I was able to verify that typing in the term Starbucks into Spotlight brought 
 no results, and the message appeared visually on the screen as well: No 
 results.
  
 All checkboxes are checked in all 21 categories in Spotlight preferences, 
 disk permissions have been performed, and so on,
  
 so I’m really curious as to why some terms bring up absolutely no results.
 This does not appear to be an accessibility issue, just some kind of 
 performance issue or quirk.
 Thanks for any thoughts.
 
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Re: no luck with enhanced dictation

Hey Tim,

Thanks, that did the trick.  One more question, do you know if there's any way 
to get some kind of audible or spoken feedback when the command is implemented? 
 That used to happen with speakable commands, but doesn't seem to happen now.
Cheers,
Donna
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Did you try going into the Accessibility pane of system Prefs, pressing the 
 Dictation Commands button then checking the box to Enable Advanced Dictation 
 commands?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm having no problem with standard text dictation in a document, but can't 
 seem to get enhanced dictation to work, i.e. can't run the computer using 
 voice commands.  Enhanced dictation has been checked and downloaded.  Any 
 suggestions?
 Thanks,
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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

2014-10-21 Thread Cheryl Homiak

Yeah, it's hard to know all the ins and outs of that I think. I hadn't realized 
until I had trouble entering my password or even doing cmd-f5 to get the beeps 
at login that I realized the keyboard could be a problem. Worked fine with one 
keyboard and not with another. I wonder if there's a take control of 
filevault book; if not there should be but I'm sure not going to be the one to 
write it :-)

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 If I had a choice for unencrypting, I never found it. My computer was asleep 
 when the battery went down, or at least it didn't have enough power when I 
 opened it back up again. I consider myself fairly computer literate, but I 
 guess at some point I did the wrong thing somewhere and got myself into 
 trouble. I only have my Mac keyboard, so that didn't seem to be my trouble. I 
 just knew my computer had erased itself, thinking some crook had got hold of 
 it. At least for now, I think FileVault is too much security for me because 
 my computer will secure itself against me. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com 
 mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If 
 you get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is 
 always 20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password 
 wasn'taccepted, if that is what happened, one of the choices would have been 
 to entr your password and unencrypt. Then it just lets you reboot and sign 
 in right away. As for the battery running down, I suppose you would have to 
 set it to go to sleep before that happens. Right now I have decided not to 
 use file vault especially because of the keyboard support issues.
   
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com 
 mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had 
 to call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
 trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too 
 far. Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to 
 come on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing 
 the password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My 
 sighted husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver 
 wouldn't let me get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this 
 morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht 
 eh accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this 
 happen like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized 
 right too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see 
 the logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I 
 tend to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love 
 that messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's 
 while navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I 
 notice it for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I 
 guess until Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, 
 however, that most of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.

RE: question about downloading audible books

2014-10-21 Thread Alan Lemly

Here is a link to an Audible Support article on Downloading Audible content
to a MAC:

http://audible.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3845/~/downloading-audib
le-content-to-a-mac

That link takes up two lines and will no doubt break in this plain text
email so here's a TinyURL link to the same article:

http://tinyurl.com/p9d6trd

I've always gotten excellent customer service from Audible so if you need to
talk to someone, call them at 888-283-5051.

Alan Lemly

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about downloading audible books

Some one may give you a better answer but I will tell you what I know

I download Audible Books using Audible Download manager on the Windows
platform but I do not know if that is accessible / available  on Mac OS.

However  it is possible to 
1. Play and download  Audible  books   through iTunes though I have never
done this.
2. If you have an iPhone or iPad or iPod it is possible to download and play
your books directly through  these devices as indeed it is possible also on
Android devices.
David Griffith
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 05:33, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 could anyone be so kind to tell me how to download an audible book on to
my mac still have not updated to 10.10 yet.
 I searched the library and found the book it says clicable but I have not
found any way to start download.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
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Re: no luck with enhanced dictation

Hi,

I haven't played with it very much but have found it to be inconsistent with 
it's announcements or responses.  If I say Open Selected Document, then tap 
the cmd key, it will repeat my command and sometimes complete the task, 
sometimes complete it quietly without me realizing that it actually did what I 
wanted and sometimes, it just doesn't do it.  I need to play some more at a 
later date though to see if I can tweak things better.  I will say that it is 
much less problematic to use with VO than Speakable Items seemed to be when I 
tried it back in Tiger and Leopard.  Could be faster computers, could just be a 
better engine, not sure.  It's not something I would tend to use in my 
day-to-day life so haven't investigated deeply.  Sorry.

Later

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Tim,
 
 Thanks, that did the trick.  One more question, do you know if there's any 
 way to get some kind of audible or spoken feedback when the command is 
 implemented?  That used to happen with speakable commands, but doesn't seem 
 to happen now.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Did you try going into the Accessibility pane of system Prefs, pressing the 
 Dictation Commands button then checking the box to Enable Advanced Dictation 
 commands?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm having no problem with standard text dictation in a document, but can't 
 seem to get enhanced dictation to work, i.e. can't run the computer using 
 voice commands.  Enhanced dictation has been checked and downloaded.  Any 
 suggestions?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: no luck with enhanced dictation

Hi Tim,

Thanks, for the info.  It does seem to work much better than speakable items 
did, once you figure out that you need to check to get confirmation that it did 
what you wanted. :)
Cheers,
Donna
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I haven't played with it very much but have found it to be inconsistent with 
 it's announcements or responses.  If I say Open Selected Document, then tap 
 the cmd key, it will repeat my command and sometimes complete the task, 
 sometimes complete it quietly without me realizing that it actually did what 
 I wanted and sometimes, it just doesn't do it.  I need to play some more at a 
 later date though to see if I can tweak things better.  I will say that it is 
 much less problematic to use with VO than Speakable Items seemed to be when I 
 tried it back in Tiger and Leopard.  Could be faster computers, could just be 
 a better engine, not sure.  It's not something I would tend to use in my 
 day-to-day life so haven't investigated deeply.  Sorry.
 
 Later
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Tim,
 
 Thanks, that did the trick.  One more question, do you know if there's any 
 way to get some kind of audible or spoken feedback when the command is 
 implemented?  That used to happen with speakable commands, but doesn't seem 
 to happen now.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Did you try going into the Accessibility pane of system Prefs, pressing the 
 Dictation Commands button then checking the box to Enable Advanced 
 Dictation commands?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm having no problem with standard text dictation in a document, but 
 can't seem to get enhanced dictation to work, i.e. can't run the computer 
 using voice commands.  Enhanced dictation has been checked and downloaded. 
  Any suggestions?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

2014-10-21 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
SO far so good with Yosemite on my mac.
However its still spinning up the fan while running safari and another 
aplication at the same time.
This is not a big deal but i guess its because my mac is a mid 2011.
Note that i've reset the smc.
No go with that though.
/A
 21 okt 2014 kl. 16:31 skrev Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had to 
 call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
 trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too far. 
 Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to come 
 on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing the 
 password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My sighted 
 husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver wouldn't let me 
 get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this 
 morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht eh 
 accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this happen 
 like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized right 
 too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see the 
 logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I tend 
 to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love that 
 messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's while 
 navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I notice 
 it for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I guess 
 until Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, however, 
 that most of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go VO left or 
 right through windows to and away from tool bars, and so forth, nost of the 
 little sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to bring them back.  
 One thing I did notice right away is that the new sounds appear to be 
 softer, and, the sounds for Mail have defintently been updated to match the 
 iPhone sounds.  Yeah, for a first release, not too bad.  Now, the new 
 iTunes view?  Wow!  I see what some people are complaining about:  still 
 and all, I poked around enough with it last night to figure most of it out: 
  or else, figure out enough that the rest should not be that hard.  Wow!  
 They sure did change where stuff is.  I don't like that it reorganized my 
 albums for me but, I'll just have to polk around in there till I get my 
 album order back the way I want it.  So yeah, like I said before, not half 
 bad for a first out of the gate type of release.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 
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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

Yeah and I had a bad moment when it asked me if I wanted unencrypt and restart. 
I knew I wanted to unencrypt and restart, so I said yes. I thought it was to 
unencrypt first, but no. Then I thought I would get unlucky and get that screen 
again demanding my password. That's what got me in trouble before. Then when it 
did come up, it said Dropbox had no Windows. Well, who cares about Dropbox 
right now. Anyway, I had to close System Preferences and restart it again so I 
could find out about my progress. Maybe I better get some more coffee. 

For anybody who has been criticizing Apple lately, they have been real nice to 
me. 
Gigi 

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, it's hard to know all the ins and outs of that I think. I hadn't 
 realized until I had trouble entering my password or even doing cmd-f5 to get 
 the beeps at login that I realized the keyboard could be a problem. Worked 
 fine with one keyboard and not with another. I wonder if there's a take 
 control of filevault book; if not there should be but I'm sure not going to 
 be the one to write it :-)
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com 
 mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 If I had a choice for unencrypting, I never found it. My computer was asleep 
 when the battery went down, or at least it didn't have enough power when I 
 opened it back up again. I consider myself fairly computer literate, but I 
 guess at some point I did the wrong thing somewhere and got myself into 
 trouble. I only have my Mac keyboard, so that didn't seem to be my trouble. 
 I just knew my computer had erased itself, thinking some crook had got hold 
 of it. At least for now, I think FileVault is too much security for me 
 because my computer will secure itself against me. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com 
 mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If 
 you get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is 
 always 20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password 
 wasn'taccepted, if that is what happened, one of the choices would have 
 been to entr your password and unencrypt. Then it just lets you reboot and 
 sign in right away. As for the battery running down, I suppose you would 
 have to set it to go to sleep before that happens. Right now I have decided 
 not to use file vault especially because of the keyboard support issues.
   
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com 
 mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had 
 to call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me 
 in trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down 
 too far. Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting 
 VoiceOver to come on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get 
 into changing the password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed 
 Apple ID. My sighted husband had to move the mouse at one point because 
 VoiceOver wouldn't let me get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had 
 this morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned 
 witht eh accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should 
 this happen like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized 
 right too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see 
 the logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and

Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

Mine is a Mac Book Pro early 2011, and it hasn't done that fan thing since 
Yosemite finished its installation. However, I had my memory upgraded to 8 
gigabytes. Do you have 8 or 4? When I got my computer in July, 2011, it had 4 
gigabytes. 

Gigi 

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 SO far so good with Yosemite on my mac.
 However its still spinning up the fan while running safari and another 
 aplication at the same time.
 This is not a big deal but i guess its because my mac is a mid 2011.
 Note that i've reset the smc.
 No go with that though.
 /A
 21 okt 2014 kl. 16:31 skrev Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com 
 mailto:gigifi...@me.com:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had to 
 call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
 trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too 
 far. Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to 
 come on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing 
 the password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My 
 sighted husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver 
 wouldn't let me get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this 
 morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht eh 
 accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this happen 
 like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized right 
 too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see the 
 logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I 
 tend to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love 
 that messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's 
 while navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I 
 notice it for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I 
 guess until Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, 
 however, that most of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go 
 VO left or right through windows to and away from tool bars, and so forth, 
 nost of the little sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to bring 
 them back.  One thing I did notice right away is that the new sounds 
 appear to be softer, and, the sounds for Mail have defintently been 
 updated to match the iPhone sounds.  Yeah, for a first release, not too 
 bad.  Now, the new iTunes view?  Wow!  I see what some people are 
 complaining about:  still and all, I poked around enough with it last 
 night to figure most of it out:  or else, figure out enough that the rest 
 should not be that hard.  Wow!  They sure did change where stuff is.  I 
 don't like that it reorganized my albums for me but, I'll just have to 
 polk around in there till I get my album order back the way I want it.  So 
 yeah, like I said before, not half bad for a first out of the gate type of 
 release.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 
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Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

2014-10-21 Thread 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries

Another completely strange occurrence, I now just updated a 2014 Macbook Air to 
Yosemite, and spotlight searches for Starbucks turns up everything, Bing, 
Wikipedia, map results, everything you would expect.
The computer on which there were no results whatsoever was a 2012 Mac Mini.
Very interesting.

From: Tim Kilburn 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

Hi, 

Hmmm.  I did the same as you entering “Starbucks” into my Entry field.  The 
first result was your message, then I could arrow down through various other 
references to Starbucks that it found.  Interestingly enough, I had more than a 
dozen references to Starbucks in various eMails and no others on my computer.  
Another interesting thing is that it did not display any Internet or Wikipedia 
results, which is likely false as I would venture to say that Starbucks should 
show up quite a bit around the Net.  Probably some setting I need to manipulate.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 

  On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

  According to documentation, performing a search term is Spotlight should 
bring up Wikipedia entries, map data, possible dictionary definitions, and a 
host of results.

  I was able to verify that typing in the term Starbucks into Spotlight brought 
no results, and the message appeared visually on the screen as well: No results.

  All checkboxes are checked in all 21 categories in Spotlight preferences, 
disk permissions have been performed, and so on,

  so I’m really curious as to why some terms bring up absolutely no results.
  This does not appear to be an accessibility issue, just some kind of 
performance issue or quirk.
  Thanks for any thoughts.

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Annoying search fields and Safari address bar

2014-10-21 Thread Joseph

Hello folks,
Is there any way to stop the rather annoying echoing of search fields and 
Safari address and search fields?
I hope this can be stopped because it's really a bother. Previously, I was able 
to type a space before typing and things went just fine. But now it keeps 
repeating what I typed.
Thanks for any assistance.

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Computer Renamed after upgrading to Yosemite

2014-10-21 Thread Barry Abbott

Hi all. For years  My computer name has been Barry's iMac. For some reason it 
now shows up as Barry's iMac (7)

I have no ideas as to why or how this happened but just noticed the change 
today. I can't seem to change it back.

I upgraded from Mavericks to Yosemite last week.

Any ideas? 

For a time I had Webroute Anti virus software on both Macs but it caused so may 
headaches that I got rid of it. 
Barry

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Jumping to the top of the message list in Mail/Yosemite

2014-10-21 Thread Edward Green

Hi,

Under Mavericks, Mail retained my place in the message list more often than not 
when new messages arrived.

However, under Yosemite, I am jumped to the top of the message list when I 
receive new mail.  I can obviously use the command to jump to the bottom of the 
list, but this still means I have to arrow back up.

I rarely have an empty inbox so I’d be grateful for any suggestions on how I 
can stop this happening.

Cheers,

Ed

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Re: Computer Renamed after upgrading to Yosemite

Hi,

This sort of thing happens when your Mac detects another computer on your local 
network with the same local host name.  Of course, in your case, there probably 
wasn't another computer with exactly the same local host name, so, it was 
likely a holdover somewhere else.  When this happens, your Mac automatically 
change its name because you can't have multiple devices on the same network 
with the same local host name.  You can usually fix this by going into System 
Preferences, Sharing and just taking the number off the end of the computer 
name in the Edit field.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Barry Abbott bpabbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. For years  My computer name has been Barry's iMac. For some reason 
 it now shows up as Barry's iMac (7)
 
 I have no ideas as to why or how this happened but just noticed the change 
 today. I can't seem to change it back.
 
 I upgraded from Mavericks to Yosemite last week.
 
 Any ideas? 
 
 For a time I had Webroute Anti virus software on both Macs but it caused so 
 may headaches that I got rid of it. 
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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

2014-10-21 Thread John Panarese

Hi Pam,
   The Take Control series of books are really good reads.  They cover a wide 
range of topics and you can't go wrong with those books.

   The results for spotlight now appear to show in a table.  You can use table 
navigation to read them.  However, what I tend to do is use more specific 
commands for searching for specific items.  For example, I just did a search 
for documents that have the word, dog, in them.

dog kind: documents

If I VO-right arrow, I am presented with a table.  The table has the results of 
all of my documents that have the word, dog, in them.

You can use things like
the Beetles kind: mp3

the Beetles kind: audio

The word, kind, has the colon after it and then a space with documents, audio, 
mp3, pdf, etc.  This designates the type of item you are searching for.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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 On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 I've heard a lot of good things about the take control series. If you cancer, 
 please explain why the arrow key functionality within spotlight was taken 
 away. As far as search criteria, if I enter a file name, or name of an artist 
 within spotlight, I get everything but either of what I'm looking for. I 
 don't understand what you mean by simple searches. I thought entering the 
 proper file name or song name constituted a simple search. What am I missing? 
 Please explain.
 Thanks much. 
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:24 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta 
 cycle.  Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to 
 simple searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  
 Information is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember that 
 you can use ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more 
 effective.  If you depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control 
 of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 Lion
 
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 On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
 here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
 attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
 what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
 complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
 accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
 integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
 be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to get 
 where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they are 
 functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't ask 
 questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we have. 
 Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly whining.. The 
 difference is, you know me, they don't.
 Pam Francis .
 
 On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
 Yosemite.
 
 As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
 from Bing, using Spotlight.
 
 So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then typing 
 in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no results.
 
 Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
 there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
 this is supposed to be the way that it works.
 Thanks.
 
 
 
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bootcamp and fusion

Hi All,

I was running fusion 5 on my macbook pro, and I upgraded to yosemite.  I had to 
upgrade my fusion to version 7.  How can I add my bootcamp to fusion so I can 
access it from with in the mac?

One question I have is the guide on AppleVis, when it said to import my 
bootcamp partition into fusion, did it use the bootcamp partition after? or did 
it create a copy and create a whole new entire virtual machine?

Now that I am using yosemite, and fusion 7, do I only have the ability to 
create a copy? or can fusion use my actual bootcamp partition?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: How to play chess on mac?

Did you ever get your chess question solved? Perhaps try a fresh game?
On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
wrote:

alex, can you message me on my skype so that i can show you the problem, my
skype is dionipher, thanks. i don't change the setting of my chess
On 19 Oct 2014, at 04:22 pm, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

I just tried it, and got several moves in without any problems. Do you have
a different game mode selected than you think? That might be why moves are
different.
On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

i just tried it again now, but whenever i pause to think what move should i
do that's when then moves does do anything
On 19 Oct 2014, at 02:48 pm, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

i tried it but on the course it doesn't move, try to move all the eight
pawns, and the computer moves i
On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:08 am, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
mailto:programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

I just tried making several moves, and it worked just fine. I made four
moves without issue.

On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

just only by trying moving pawns one step ahead, the third pawn will not
move. try it.
On 19 Oct 2014, at 03:39, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Well, the Mac knows the rules of the game, so perhaps there's some
obscure block you didn't notice? If not, can you give an example of a
move that should be valid, but isn't?
On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

i already did it but the thing is some moves dont work even if its
valid. i know how to play chess so i know what was the valid moves. i
dont know why cant i move on the third and so so on.
On 18 Oct 2014, at 03:05 pm, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Here's the written guide:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/gaming-mac-apps/playing-chess-mac
http://www.applevis.com/guides/gaming-mac-apps/playing-chess-mac

and here's the podcast:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/demonstration-chess-application-which-comes-preloaded-all-mac-computers

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/demonstration-chess-application-which-comes-preloaded-all-mac-computers
On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:08 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com
mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:

If you search on apple vis Podcasts you will find a good detailed
guide to accessibly setting up and playing the chess app on the Mac.
I listened to it over the summer but it should still be available.

I suggest you just go to the site and search under chess.

David Griffith
On 18 Oct 2014, at 06:24, Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

Can somebody tell me how to play chess on mac, because it seems i
can move once or twice then i can't move my again, how do i do this
one, and can you give me some advice to the voice because its
interrupting to move, thanks

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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

Ordinarily, I'd tell you to switch to Classic View, in which you can sort the 
headers of the table manually. I did this in Mavericks, and while you do lose 
the message preview from Standard View, you *can* set the subject to be read 
first if you want.

In 10.10.0, however, there's a bug where VoiceOver says conversation, 
collapsed disclosure triangle before every message. This happens even if a 
message is not part of a thread, and is an even bigger hit to efficiency than 
the string of sender names. Until it gets fixed, I would steer clear of Classic 
View. Aside from that, I have not found a way to toggle this yet, which is odd 
since iOS has a setting for the same thing.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to hear 
 the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
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Re: bootcamp and fusion

Alright All,

never mind my below questions.


In fusion 7, the process to access the bootcamp volume as a virtual machine has 
changed.

I will try and add a comment note to the current guide on apple vis in the next 
few days.

Best,
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I was running fusion 5 on my macbook pro, and I upgraded to yosemite.  I had 
 to upgrade my fusion to version 7.  How can I add my bootcamp to fusion so I 
 can access it from with in the mac?
 
 One question I have is the guide on AppleVis, when it said to import my 
 bootcamp partition into fusion, did it use the bootcamp partition after? or 
 did it create a copy and create a whole new entire virtual machine?
 
 Now that I am using yosemite, and fusion 7, do I only have the ability to 
 create a copy? or can fusion use my actual bootcamp partition?
 
 Thanks for any help.
 

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Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

On my mid 2012 Macbook Air, doing a Spotlight search for Starbucks tells me 
about a local Starbucks, plus the web results and all the rest, for what that's 
worth.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 1:48 PM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Another completely strange occurrence, I now just updated a 2014 Macbook Air 
 to Yosemite, and spotlight searches for Starbucks turns up everything, Bing, 
 Wikipedia, map results, everything you would expect.
 The computer on which there were no results whatsoever was a 2012 Mac Mini.
 Very interesting.
  
  
 From: Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:09 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search
  
 Hi,
  
 Hmmm.  I did the same as you entering “Starbucks” into my Entry field.  The 
 first result was your message, then I could arrow down through various other 
 references to Starbucks that it found.  Interestingly enough, I had more than 
 a dozen references to Starbucks in various eMails and no others on my 
 computer.  Another interesting thing is that it did not display any Internet 
 or Wikipedia results, which is likely false as I would venture to say that 
 Starbucks should show up quite a bit around the Net.  Probably some setting I 
 need to manipulate.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
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 wrote:
  
 According to documentation, performing a search term is Spotlight should 
 bring up Wikipedia entries, map data, possible dictionary definitions, and a 
 host of results.
  
 I was able to verify that typing in the term Starbucks into Spotlight 
 brought no results, and the message appeared visually on the screen as well: 
 No results.
  
 All checkboxes are checked in all 21 categories in Spotlight preferences, 
 disk permissions have been performed, and so on,
  
 so I’m really curious as to why some terms bring up absolutely no results.
 This does not appear to be an accessibility issue, just some kind of 
 performance issue or quirk.
 Thanks for any thoughts.
  
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Re: Jumping to the top of the message list in Mail/Yosemite

This doesn't happen to me. I'm curious if you interact with the messages table 
or not. I don', so if you do, it might be worth trying it without interacting.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Under Mavericks, Mail retained my place in the message list more often than 
 not when new messages arrived.
 
 However, under Yosemite, I am jumped to the top of the message list when I 
 receive new mail.  I can obviously use the command to jump to the bottom of 
 the list, but this still means I have to arrow back up.
 
 I rarely have an empty inbox so I’d be grateful for any suggestions on how I 
 can stop this happening.
 
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Where to get VMware fusion version 6?

2014-10-21 Thread Vivianna

Hi All.
Does anybody know where i might obtain a DMG of fusion 6?
I can't seem to figure out their website.  :)Thanks much.

Vivianna

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Re: yosemite and spotlight search

I just love this list!  I learn so many things here, even after five years on a 
Mac.  I never knew you could search that way.  Thanks, John!
Cheers,
Donna
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 1:56 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam,
   The Take Control series of books are really good reads.  They cover a wide 
 range of topics and you can't go wrong with those books.
 
   The results for spotlight now appear to show in a table.  You can use table 
 navigation to read them.  However, what I tend to do is use more specific 
 commands for searching for specific items.  For example, I just did a search 
 for documents that have the word, dog, in them.
 
 dog kind: documents
 
 If I VO-right arrow, I am presented with a table.  The table has the results 
 of all of my documents that have the word, dog, in them.
 
 You can use things like
 the Beetles kind: mp3
 
 the Beetles kind: audio
 
 The word, kind, has the colon after it and then a space with documents, 
 audio, mp3, pdf, etc.  This designates the type of item you are searching for.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 I've heard a lot of good things about the take control series. If you 
 cancer, please explain why the arrow key functionality within spotlight was 
 taken away. As far as search criteria, if I enter a file name, or name of an 
 artist within spotlight, I get everything but either of what I'm looking 
 for. I don't understand what you mean by simple searches. I thought entering 
 the proper file name or song name constituted a simple search. What am I 
 missing? Please explain.
 Thanks much. 
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:24 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually, this was another feature that was focused on during the beta 
 cycle.  Realistically, Spotlight is designed to give more functionality to 
 simple searches.  It is not a matter of using the arrow keys any longer.  
 Information is presented in table format based on the results.  Remember 
 that you can use ways to phrase your search criterion to make Spotlight more 
 effective.  If you depend on Spotlight, I highly recommend the Take Control 
 of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Director
 Mac for the Blind
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 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having this issue. Jim, do you also 
 here something to the effect of either button or image? When I have 
 attempted to use spotlight in its current iteration, I get everything but 
 what I'm looking for. I have been raked over the coals on this list for 
 complaining to Apple for fear there are those who will lose their 
 accessibility. At this particular juncture in my opinion they lost an 
 integral part of what the OS was supposed to mean. I have enough vision to 
 be able to see the screen, yet it does no good to use my key commands to 
 get where I need to go. Apple is more concerned about aesthetics then they 
 are functionality with reference to how their current OS works. If we don't 
 ask questions, stand up for  what we need we will ultimately lose what we 
 have. Those who are  currently taking me to task now will be truly 
 whining.. The difference is, you know me, they don't.
 Pam Francis .
 
 On Oct 20, 2014 10:05 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 I have a quick question about the way that Spotlight is supposed to work in 
 Yosemite.
 
 As far as I have been able to read, you should be able to get web results 
 from Bing, using Spotlight.
 
 So, pressing Command Spacebar, which brings up the edit box, and then 
 typing in a search term, using the down arrow key produces absolutely no 
 results.
 
 Results are indeed displayed for documents and email, but I am hoping that 
 there might be an easy way to get Bing results  displayed in Spotlight, if 
 this is supposed to be the way that it works.
 Thanks.
 
 
 
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Re: bootcamp and fusion

2014-10-21 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona


if you could it would be appreciated can't figure out how to do this myself

On 10/21/2014 12:53 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

Alright All,

never mind my below questions.


In fusion 7, the process to access the bootcamp volume as a virtual machine has 
changed.

I will try and add a comment note to the current guide on apple vis in the next 
few days.

Best,

On Oct 21, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All,

I was running fusion 5 on my macbook pro, and I upgraded to yosemite.  I had to 
upgrade my fusion to version 7.  How can I add my bootcamp to fusion so I can 
access it from with in the mac?

One question I have is the guide on AppleVis, when it said to import my 
bootcamp partition into fusion, did it use the bootcamp partition after? or did 
it create a copy and create a whole new entire virtual machine?

Now that I am using yosemite, and fusion 7, do I only have the ability to 
create a copy? or can fusion use my actual bootcamp partition?

Thanks for any help.



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Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-21 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera

nope, i don't know why i can't do a lot moves on chess. and by the way alex is
mixing when the computer moves. how can i fix this? i don't want to just press
what was the last move of the computer. thanks
Il giorno 21/ott/2014, alle ore 09:41 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com ha
scritto:

Did you ever get your chess question solved? Perhaps try a fresh game?
On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
wrote:

i just tried it again now, but whenever i pause to think what move should
i do that's when then moves does do anything
On 19 Oct 2014, at 02:48 pm, Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

i tried it but on the course it doesn't move, try to move all the eight
pawns, and the computer moves i
On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:08 am, Brandon A. Olivares
programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

I just tried making several moves, and it worked just fine. I made four
moves without issue.

On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
wrote:

just only by trying moving pawns one step ahead, the third pawn will
not move. try it.
On 19 Oct 2014, at 03:39, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Here's the written guide:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/gaming-mac-apps/playing-chess-mac

and here's the podcast:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/demonstration-chess-application-which-comes-preloaded-all-mac-computers
On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:08 AM, David Griffith
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I suggest you just go to the site and search under chess.

David Griffith
On 18 Oct 2014, at 06:24, Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

Can somebody tell me how to play chess on mac, because it seems i
can move once or twice then i can't move my again, how do i do
this one, and can you give me some advice to the voice because its
interrupting to move, thanks

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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread David Griffith

Personally I have just turned off threaded conversations  in standard view. 
Actually I am quite enjoying the change. Although I have lost the threaded 
conversation I find that my efficiency has increased as preview is available on 
all messages which used not to be the case in conversation threads. I am 
finding it quicker to just cursor down through my messages and after hearing 
the first few lines of a mail jut hitting delete in most cases.
I will most likely not return to conversation threads even if this gets fixed.

David Griffith
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 Ordinarily, I'd tell you to switch to Classic View, in which you can sort the 
 headers of the table manually. I did this in Mavericks, and while you do lose 
 the message preview from Standard View, you *can* set the subject to be read 
 first if you want.
 
 In 10.10.0, however, there's a bug where VoiceOver says conversation, 
 collapsed disclosure triangle before every message. This happens even if a 
 message is not part of a thread, and is an even bigger hit to efficiency than 
 the string of sender names. Until it gets fixed, I would steer clear of 
 Classic View. Aside from that, I have not found a way to toggle this yet, 
 which is odd since iOS has a setting for the same thing.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
 hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
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Re: How to play chess on mac?

I'm confused now. Alex will say the move the computer makes, unless you
selected a game type of computer versus computer. There is a checkbox that
controls whether the Mac says the move you make, but even then, it will only
say the move after you make it, not move for you. Again, this assumes you have
selected the right game type (human versus computer).
On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
wrote:

nope, i don't know why i can't do a lot moves on chess. and by the way alex
is mixing when the computer moves. how can i fix this? i don't want to just
press what was the last move of the computer. thanks
Il giorno 21/ott/2014, alle ore 09:41 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com ha scritto:

Did you ever get your chess question solved? Perhaps try a fresh game?
On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

I just tried it, and got several moves in without any problems. Do you
have a different game mode selected than you think? That might be why
moves are different.
On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

i just tried it again now, but whenever i pause to think what move should
i do that's when then moves does do anything
On 19 Oct 2014, at 02:48 pm, Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

i tried it but on the course it doesn't move, try to move all the eight
pawns, and the computer moves i
On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:08 am, Brandon A. Olivares
programmer2...@gmail.com mailto:programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

I just tried making several moves, and it worked just fine. I made four
moves without issue.

On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

just only by trying moving pawns one step ahead, the third pawn will
not move. try it.
On 19 Oct 2014, at 03:39, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

i already did it but the thing is some moves dont work even if its
valid. i know how to play chess so i know what was the valid moves.
i dont know why cant i move on the third and so so on.
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mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Here's the written guide:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/gaming-mac-apps/playing-chess-mac
http://www.applevis.com/guides/gaming-mac-apps/playing-chess-mac

and here's the podcast:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/demonstration-chess-application-which-comes-preloaded-all-mac-computers

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/demonstration-chess-application-which-comes-preloaded-all-mac-computers
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If you search on apple vis Podcasts you will find a good detailed
guide to accessibly setting up and playing the chess app on the
Mac.
I listened to it over the summer but it should still be available.

I suggest you just go to the site and search under chess.

David Griffith
On 18 Oct 2014, at 06:24, Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com mailto:dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

Can somebody tell me how to play chess on mac, because it seems i
can move once or twice then i can't move my again, how do i do
this one, and can you give me some advice to the voice because
its interrupting to move, thanks

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Re: One More iTunes Library Question

2014-10-21 Thread Grant Hardy

If the applications folder is empty, it can be safely removed. If it is not 
empty, I would recommend removing all the apps from within the iTunes UI first, 
otherwise all those apps will still show up in your library but iTunes will not 
be able to locate them.

As for synchronization and backups, that should not be messed up in any way. 
Backups are not stored in your iTunes folder, and may safely be removed at any 
time. iTunes will simply do a full backup rather than an incremental one if it 
cannot find any previous backups when backing up an iOS device.

Grant

On Oct 20, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all,
I am about to copy over my old iTunes library, but I have one more question. 
I've already synced my iPhone with iTunes a few times. Will this mess up any 
syncing moving forward, or restoring encrypted backups, or anything? Similarly, 
since I never use them, can I replace or get rid of the Mobile Applications 
folder in the old library?

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Re: Where to get VMware fusion version 6?

2014-10-21 Thread Mike Arrigo

I have it, I can transfer it to you using skype in the evening. Yes, 
the vmware site is very difficult to navigate to say the least.

Original message:

Hi All.
Does anybody know where i might obtain a DMG of fusion 6?
I can't seem to figure out their website.  :)Thanks much.



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question re iTunes downloads

Hi all,

I have iTunes Match, and have downloaded some, but not all Match copies of 
songs to my library.  Does anyone know if there's a way to tell whether the 
copy on my Mac is my imported CD copy or the Match copy?
TIA,
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installing yosemity

2014-10-21 Thread Regina Alvarado

Hello all, can someone who has put yosemity on their Mac give me step-by-step 
instructions on how to install. I am a new Mac owner with a Mac Mini, and 
though I have done updates to Mavericks I am extremely nervous about installing 
Yosemity. Some say it should be done with a clean install, but I have no idea 
how to do this. I need a patient soul who will walk me straight through this! 
Anyone who can do this, I am deeply in debt.


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Re: Where to get VMware fusion version 6?

Maybe because fusion 7 is out they won't have fusion 6? I have a dmg of fusion 
7 pro, the free trial if you want I can send you a dropbox link
 .  If you can't find it let me know.


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 I can't seem to figure out their website.  :)Thanks much.
 
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Re: installing yosemity

Hi there
When you say you are a new Mac user, how new? If you're super new, then you may 
not want to take remote instructions on how to do this. This is because it 
takes a very, very, long time. When I got my Mac, I had had it for three days 
when we went from Lyon to Mountain lion. I got very chicken, and I went to the 
Apple store and they let me sit there and update it. 

Sincerely,
Gigi 

Sent from my iPhone

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 instructions on how to install. I am a new Mac owner with a Mac Mini, and 
 though I have done updates to Mavericks I am extremely nervous about 
 installing Yosemity. Some say it should be done with a clean install, but I 
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 through this! Anyone who can do this, I am deeply in debt.
 
 
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Re: starting a new conversation in messages

2014-10-21 Thread Faisal

That’s what I tried originally, but it wasn’t working. I wasn’t finding the 
person whom I was trying to message. It kept bringing up someone from my 
Facebook contacts and couldn’t find a way to go through the search results with 
contacts with the same name.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Another method is to VO-space on the Compose button within the Messages 
 window, then enter the recipient’s contact info in the To field.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 To start a new message from within the Messages app press command N, which 
 creates a new conversation, then start typing the contact you wish to 
 message. I did have to restart my Mac after updating my iPhone to get this 
 feature to work. 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone found a reliable way to initiate a new conversation in messages? 
 I am trying to compose a new message to test out the sms forwarding feature 
 with IOS 8.1 but I can’t even find a way to do that.
 
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VO announcing incoming mail

2014-10-21 Thread Agent086b

Hello all,
When  I am on a web page or reading something VO announces when an email 
arrives. I hear the subject and sender. I suspect that something flashes up on 
the screen. Anybody else have this since installing Yosemite? If so how can I 
stop this?
Thanks for any help.
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Re: VO announcing incoming mail

2014-10-21 Thread jeffrey greene

Hi Max, I am running Mavericks and have the same thing happening. I believe it 
has something to do with notifications, and if you go into system prefs you can 
change this behavior.
Jeff

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 When  I am on a web page or reading something VO announces when an email 
 arrives. I hear the subject and sender. I suspect that something flashes up 
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 can I stop this?
 Thanks for any help.
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How to perform secure empty trash on my Mac?, and how to change voice on my iPad/iPhone?

2014-10-21 Thread Eleanor Roberts

Hi all 

Wondered if anyone could help me with these 2 quick questions. 

Firstly, could anyone remind me how to perform a secure empty trash on my 
MacBook please? I've done it once before but have forgotten. 

Secondly, I've just upgraded to IOS8.1, and wanted to look at the different 
voices I could use on my iPad/iPhone. However, when I looked through the 
settings, including under accessibility, I couldn't find anywhere which allowed 
me to explore different voices etc. Does anyone have any idea where abouts I 
should be looking for this?? 

Many thanks for any help. 

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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

2014-10-21 Thread matthew Dyer

Hi,

I have been using the new os for several days and have no problems here.  I 
have one question though and it has been on my mind for a while.  When I boot 
up and come to the login screen and vo comes up it fades in and so it sounds 
kind of strange as if core audio has not fully loaded and so it kind of fades 
in as audio drivers are loaded.  Anyone noticing this?  I am on a 27 inch IMac. 
 

Matthew
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sent from my 27 inch iMac.



facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com

Skype: graduater2004





 On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If you 
 get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is always 
 20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password wasn'taccepted, 
 if that is what happened, one of the choices would have been to entr your 
 password and unencrypt. Then it just lets you reboot and sign in right away. 
 As for the battery running down, I suppose you would have to set it to go to 
 sleep before that happens. Right now I have decided not to use file vault 
 especially because of the keyboard support issues.
   
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com 
 mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had to 
 call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
 trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too 
 far. Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to 
 come on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing 
 the password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My 
 sighted husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver 
 wouldn't let me get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this 
 morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht eh 
 accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this happen 
 like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized right 
 too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see the 
 logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I 
 tend to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love 
 that messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's 
 while navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I 
 notice it for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I 
 guess until Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, 
 however, that most of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go 
 VO left or right through windows to and away from tool bars, and so forth, 
 nost of the little sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to bring 
 them back.  One thing I did notice right away is that the new sounds 
 appear to be softer, and, the sounds for Mail have defintently been 
 updated to match the iPhone sounds.  Yeah, for a first release, not too 
 bad.  Now, the new iTunes view?  Wow!  I see what some people are 
 complaining about:  still and all, I poked around enough with it last 
 night to figure most of it out:  or else, figure out enough that the rest 
 should not be that hard.  Wow!  They sure did change where stuff is.  I 
 don't like that it reorganized my albums for me but, I'll just have to 
 polk around in there till I get my album order back the way I want it.  So 
 yeah, like I said before, not half bad for a first out of the gate type of 
 release.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone

Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Keith Watson

Johnathan,

So after reading this thread I see that nobody has an answer for you. I am 
sorry to say that neither do I I would be very interested in finding a solution 
to this issue as well. Its so damned time consuming that I find myself blowing 
away all the messages in the mailbox after the first 3 or 4 threads that piss 
me off. When and if you do find a solution please let me know so that I can 
enjoy lists once again 

Thanks,

Keith

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to hear 
 the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Agent086b

Hi, 
as I think somebody suggested turn off group messages by conversation. 
 I have done this now. At least I can read the messages.
Max

 On 22 Oct 2014, at 9:21 am, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Johnathan,
 
 So after reading this thread I see that nobody has an answer for you. I am 
 sorry to say that neither do I I would be very interested in finding a 
 solution to this issue as well. Its so damned time consuming that I find 
 myself blowing away all the messages in the mailbox after the first 3 or 4 
 threads that piss me off. When and if you do find a solution please let me 
 know so that I can enjoy lists once again 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Keith
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
 hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 
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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Deb Lewis

When you have a lot of mail, that's a very unacceptable solution I'm
afraid. I'm going to be sending in a suggestion to apple regarding
this because I don't want to give up reading by conversation.

On 10/21/14, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Hi,
 as I think somebody suggested turn off group messages by conversation.
 I have done this now. At least I can read the messages.
 Max

 On 22 Oct 2014, at 9:21 am, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Johnathan,

 So after reading this thread I see that nobody has an answer for you. I am
 sorry to say that neither do I I would be very interested in finding a
 solution to this issue as well. Its so damned time consuming that I find
 myself blowing away all the messages in the mailbox after the first 3 or 4
 threads that piss me off. When and if you do find a solution please let me
 know so that I can enjoy lists once again

 Thanks,

 Keith

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on
 here, although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've
 accidentally skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the
 subject. Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For
 example, I've been away from the list for a couple of days and came back
 to a 90 message conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list
 of participants before I could even hear the subject of the thread to
 determine whether it was of interest to me or not. That's not
 particularly efficient. What I'd prefer to do is hear the conversation's
 subject first, then if I have to hear the participants, they could be
 spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/

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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Keith Watson

Hi,

The issue with that is that in order to find the answer to a question posed is 
that you then have to wade through god knows how many emails to find any 
replies. Again, not very efficient. By grouping a conversation you can quickly 
get to any responses that may or may not be relevant. I would not even consider 
trying to parse messages on a list as busy as this without grouping. 

Keith



 On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 as I think somebody suggested turn off group messages by conversation. 
 I have done this now. At least I can read the messages.
 Max
 
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 9:21 am, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com 
 mailto:tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Johnathan,
 
 So after reading this thread I see that nobody has an answer for you. I am 
 sorry to say that neither do I I would be very interested in finding a 
 solution to this issue as well. Its so damned time consuming that I find 
 myself blowing away all the messages in the mailbox after the first 3 or 4 
 threads that piss me off. When and if you do find a solution please let me 
 know so that I can enjoy lists once again 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Keith
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
 hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 
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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Jonathan Mosen

Hi Keith, I hope you'll join me in dropping Apple Accessibility a friendly note 
about this. It's certainly suboptimal from an efficiency perspective, and 
turning off group by conversation is not the answer. It needs to work 
efficiently.
Jonathan Mosen
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http://Mosen.org

 On 22/10/2014, at 11:21 am, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Johnathan,
 
 So after reading this thread I see that nobody has an answer for you. I am 
 sorry to say that neither do I I would be very interested in finding a 
 solution to this issue as well. Its so damned time consuming that I find 
 myself blowing away all the messages in the mailbox after the first 3 or 4 
 threads that piss me off. When and if you do find a solution please let me 
 know so that I can enjoy lists once again 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Keith
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
 hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 
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Finereader works again.

2014-10-21 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen

Hi all.

I am glad to tell you that finereader works again, there is an update out at 
least on the app store version, I guess that it is also out for the version 
bought from their own site.

Best regards Annie.

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Re: installing yosemity

2014-10-21 Thread Pete Nalda

Ok, I’m not a VoiceOver user, as I have some vision, and so, could put the 
screen close enough to me to see what was going on.  I can tell you, that It 
takes about an hour and a half, the first half hour which downloading from the 
app store, then the next hour is split between installing on the hard drive, 
then about 5 minutes of optimization.  I didn’t get to use Zoom until the last 
5 minutes, I used Mag Light on my iPhone to look at the progress bar in the 
hard drive part.  And finally, there is a grey boot loader progress bar between 
the finish of hard drive installation, and optimization.


 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi there
 When you say you are a new Mac user, how new? If you're super new, then you 
 may not want to take remote instructions on how to do this. This is because 
 it takes a very, very, long time. When I got my Mac, I had had it for three 
 days when we went from Lyon to Mountain lion. I got very chicken, and I went 
 to the Apple store and they let me sit there and update it. 
 
 Sincerely,
 Gigi 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all, can someone who has put yosemity on their Mac give me 
 step-by-step instructions on how to install. I am a new Mac owner with a Mac 
 Mini, and though I have done updates to Mavericks I am extremely nervous 
 about installing Yosemity. Some say it should be done with a clean install, 
 but I have no idea how to do this. I need a patient soul who will walk me 
 straight through this! Anyone who can do this, I am deeply in debt.
 
 
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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread matthew Dyer

Hi,

Yes it does and it works well.  I have always loved mail from day one and would 
never look for another client  as I think it is the best one I have ever used.

Matthew


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 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One of the things I miss about Outlook, and love about the Mac, is that it 
 tells you how many messages are in a thread. Does this still happening in 
 Yosemite? If so, is the message count given before any other information?
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
 hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: installing yosemity

Hello again
Let me see how much of this I can remember because I can't go back and look 
since I have already done it. That's the problem with some of us remembering 
the step-by-step procedure.

You first have to go to the app store. However, before you do that, you want to 
doupdates on Mavericks as far as you can. In my case, I had a security update 
that I had to do first.

You go to the app store by doing VO m, and voiceover should say Apple. Press 
down arrow until you hear App Store. Press the return key. Then, I had a button 
that said update now or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it 
said. I did voice over keys and  space. Then you have to type in your Apple ID 
password. Then, after taking forever to download the file, you will get some 
choices about installing. You can check the progress of your download by doing 
VO right arrow until you hear the percentage.

Now here's the thing. When the installation starts, basically your computer 
goes away for a long time and at somePoint it will tell you that it will 
restart several times. You do not hear any noises at this point, except your 
fan coming on to her three times. Actually, that is good news because it means 
your computer is still active.

When it does come back, it will load in voiceover. It will be in the set up 
assistant, and you can vo  right arrow and hear the progress of that. Then it 
will ask you some questions. I don't think you want to make the mistake I did, 
because one of the questionsis whether or not you want file volt. I said yes, 
but today I was told that is really more for people that have need for super 
security. I said yes to it, but I should've said no.I am sorry, but I can't 
remember all the questions it asks. Somebody else can pick up and let me know 
and you know what I left out.
Sincerely,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I’m not a VoiceOver user, as I have some vision, and so, could put the 
 screen close enough to me to see what was going on.  I can tell you, that It 
 takes about an hour and a half, the first half hour which downloading from 
 the app store, then the next hour is split between installing on the hard 
 drive, then about 5 minutes of optimization.  I didn’t get to use Zoom until 
 the last 5 minutes, I used Mag Light on my iPhone to look at the progress bar 
 in the hard drive part.  And finally, there is a grey boot loader progress 
 bar between the finish of hard drive installation, and optimization.
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi there
 When you say you are a new Mac user, how new? If you're super new, then you 
 may not want to take remote instructions on how to do this. This is because 
 it takes a very, very, long time. When I got my Mac, I had had it for three 
 days when we went from Lyon to Mountain lion. I got very chicken, and I went 
 to the Apple store and they let me sit there and update it. 
 
 Sincerely,
 Gigi 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all, can someone who has put yosemity on their Mac give me 
 step-by-step instructions on how to install. I am a new Mac owner with a 
 Mac Mini, and though I have done updates to Mavericks I am extremely 
 nervous about installing Yosemity. Some say it should be done with a clean 
 install, but I have no idea how to do this. I need a patient soul who will 
 walk me straight through this! Anyone who can do this, I am deeply in debt.
 
 
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iBooks and pdf

2014-10-21 Thread Faisal

I’m having trouble opening pdf files in iBooks. When ever I try opening a pdf 
file in ibooks, it launches preview. I can’t get it to open in iBooks. what am 
I doing wrong here?

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Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search

2014-10-21 Thread Cheryl Homiak

I would be really surprised if the differences in what people are finding in 
their spotlight searches is a function of the model of computer they have, 
though I suppose it's possible.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 On my mid 2012 Macbook Air, doing a Spotlight search for Starbucks tells me 
 about a local Starbucks, plus the web results and all the rest, for what 
 that's worth.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 1:48 PM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
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 wrote:
 
 Another completely strange occurrence, I now just updated a 2014 Macbook Air 
 to Yosemite, and spotlight searches for Starbucks turns up everything, Bing, 
 Wikipedia, map results, everything you would expect.
 The computer on which there were no results whatsoever was a 2012 Mac Mini.
 Very interesting.
  
  
 From: Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:09 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Yosemite: Continuing Curiosities in Spotlight Search
  
 Hi,
  
 Hmmm.  I did the same as you entering “Starbucks” into my Entry field.  The 
 first result was your message, then I could arrow down through various other 
 references to Starbucks that it found.  Interestingly enough, I had more 
 than a dozen references to Starbucks in various eMails and no others on my 
 computer.  Another interesting thing is that it did not display any Internet 
 or Wikipedia results, which is likely false as I would venture to say that 
 Starbucks should show up quite a bit around the Net.  Probably some setting 
 I need to manipulate.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:51 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
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 wrote:
  
 According to documentation, performing a search term is Spotlight should 
 bring up Wikipedia entries, map data, possible dictionary definitions, and 
 a host of results.
  
 I was able to verify that typing in the term Starbucks into Spotlight 
 brought no results, and the message appeared visually on the screen as 
 well: No results.
  
 All checkboxes are checked in all 21 categories in Spotlight preferences, 
 disk permissions have been performed, and so on,
  
 so I’m really curious as to why some terms bring up absolutely no results.
 This does not appear to be an accessibility issue, just some kind of 
 performance issue or quirk.
 Thanks for any thoughts.
  
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Re: iBooks and pdf

Nothing.  pdf files are supposed to open in Preview not Ibooks.


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m having trouble opening pdf files in iBooks. When ever I try opening a pdf 
 file in ibooks, it launches preview. I can’t get it to open in iBooks. what 
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Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

how does one get VO tok begin talking at the login screen? I have to keep 
turning it on at the screen.  If Iknow how to make it startup, I can 
confirm/deny what you are reporting.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:16 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have been using the new os for several days and have no problems here.  I 
 have one question though and it has been on my mind for a while.  When I boot 
 up and come to the login screen and vo comes up it fades in and so it sounds 
 kind of strange as if core audio has not fully loaded and so it kind of fades 
 in as audio drivers are loaded.  Anyone noticing this?  I am on a 27 inch 
 IMac.  
 
 Matthew
 matthew dyer 
 sent from my 27 inch iMac.
 
 
 
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 Skype: graduater2004
 
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com 
 mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If 
 you get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is 
 always 20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password 
 wasn'taccepted, if that is what happened, one of the choices would have been 
 to entr your password and unencrypt. Then it just lets you reboot and sign 
 in right away. As for the battery running down, I suppose you would have to 
 set it to go to sleep before that happens. Right now I have decided not to 
 use file vault especially because of the keyboard support issues.
   
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com 
 mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys
 I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had 
 to call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me in 
 trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down too 
 far. Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting VoiceOver to 
 come on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me get into changing 
 the password. Now I have ended up with a slightly changed Apple ID. My 
 sighted husband had to move the mouse at one point because VoiceOver 
 wouldn't let me get into the place to type in the new Apple ID. 
 
 Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them so 
 that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having it on 
 here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I had this 
 morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more concerned witht 
 eh accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active should this 
 happen like this again. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Got my sounds back.  Forgot that I muted my sounds.
 
 Would like other thoughts though.  Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized 
 right too.  That's some new view to get used to:  but, I reckon I can see 
 the logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well.  I 
 tend to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view.  I love 
 that messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one here's 
 while navigating through the table.  Big plus that.  The sluggishness, I 
 notice it for sure.  Annoying?  Yep, but, as long as I can use it, okay I 
 guess until Apple gets it fixed.  Now, I could not help but noticing, 
 however, that most of my boundary sounds appear to have gone.  When I go 
 VO left or right through windows to and away from tool bars, and so 
 forth, nost of the little sounds just are not there.  Can't figure how to 
 bring them back.  One thing I did notice right away is that the new 
 sounds appear to be softer, and, the sounds for Mail have defintently 
 been updated to match the iPhone sounds.  Yeah, for a first release, not 
 too bad.  Now, the new iTunes view?  Wow!  I see what some people are 
 complaining about:  still and all, I poked around enough with it last 
 night to figure most of it out:  or else, figure out enough that the rest 
 should not be that hard.  Wow!  They sure

notes search

Hi All,

Have anyone noticed that the notes search does not work at all?  I cannot 
perform a search in the notes edit box.  nothing allows me to write text into 
it.

Any help/ideas would be greatly appreciate ed.

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Re: iBooks and pdf

2014-10-21 Thread Faisal

Ahh okay, I thought that iBooks was able to open pdf files.
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 Nothing.  pdf files are supposed to open in Preview not Ibooks.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
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 I’m having trouble opening pdf files in iBooks. When ever I try opening a 
 pdf file in ibooks, it launches preview. I can’t get it to open in iBooks. 
 what am I doing wrong here?
 
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Braille screen input

i just updated my iPhone this evening, and I can finally get it to work. So 
far, I am not as fast as I was with mBraille, but I am getting better. I am 
brailling this email, and I must say I am as quick as using the on-screen 
keyboard. I did try grade 2 and it sort of worked. H any of you gotten grade 2 
to work? Gigi

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Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-21 Thread Keith Watson

Jonathan,

Without a doubt. That was actually the next thing I did after posting my rant. 
They must hate me there as I bombard them with every little thing I find that I 
think needs fixing.

Keith

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi Keith, I hope you'll join me in dropping Apple Accessibility a friendly 
 note about this. It's certainly suboptimal from an efficiency perspective, 
 and turning off group by conversation is not the answer. It needs to work 
 efficiently.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 On 22/10/2014, at 11:21 am, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com 
 mailto:tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Johnathan,
 
 So after reading this thread I see that nobody has an answer for you. I am 
 sorry to say that neither do I I would be very interested in finding a 
 solution to this issue as well. Its so damned time consuming that I find 
 myself blowing away all the messages in the mailbox after the first 3 or 4 
 threads that piss me off. When and if you do find a solution please let me 
 know so that I can enjoy lists once again 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Keith
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
 least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
 mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
 There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
 although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
 skipped references to it.
 I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
 speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
 been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
 conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
 before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
 was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
 prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
 hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
 When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
 behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
 Thanks.
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 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 
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Re: One More iTunes Library Question

Thanks. So, to be sure I have the process right:

1. Move the entire library to somewhere iTunes can write to (by copying it out 
of the Time Machine location).
2. Open iTunes with the Option key held down, and browse to my newly copied 
library folder.
3. Locate the apps folder from within iTunes and erase the apps. How do I do 
this?
4. I'm now safe to backup, sync, or restore my iOS devices, and all my music 
should work fine.

Right? I appreciate the help!
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 If the applications folder is empty, it can be safely removed. If it is not 
 empty, I would recommend removing all the apps from within the iTunes UI 
 first, otherwise all those apps will still show up in your library but iTunes 
 will not be able to locate them.
 
 As for synchronization and backups, that should not be messed up in any way. 
 Backups are not stored in your iTunes folder, and may safely be removed at 
 any time. iTunes will simply do a full backup rather than an incremental one 
 if it cannot find any previous backups when backing up an iOS device.
 
 Grant
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am about to copy over my old iTunes library, but I have one more question. 
 I've already synced my iPhone with iTunes a few times. Will this mess up any 
 syncing moving forward, or restoring encrypted backups, or anything? 
 Similarly, since I never use them, can I replace or get rid of the Mobile 
 Applications folder in the old library?
 
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Re: starting a new conversation in messages

If it's anything like Mail, as you type, suggestions will pop up. Down arrow 
(no VO keys, and with Quick Nav off) from right within the text field, and 
press enter when you hear the one you want.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That’s what I tried originally, but it wasn’t working. I wasn’t finding the 
 person whom I was trying to message. It kept bringing up someone from my 
 Facebook contacts and couldn’t find a way to go through the search results 
 with contacts with the same name.
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Another method is to VO-space on the Compose button within the Messages 
 window, then enter the recipient’s contact info in the To field.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 To start a new message from within the Messages app press command N, which 
 creates a new conversation, then start typing the contact you wish to 
 message. I did have to restart my Mac after updating my iPhone to get this 
 feature to work. 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone found a reliable way to initiate a new conversation in 
 messages? I am trying to compose a new message to test out the sms 
 forwarding feature with IOS 8.1 but I can’t even find a way to do that.
 
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fusion and hotkeys

Hi All,

I wanted to know if there is  a way to setup fusion so any of the windows 
commands are passed into the vm, not into the host mac computer?  At times I 
switch into full screen, but if I alt+tab, or what ever it’ll flip mac windows. 
 I wish I could have it while i full screen that all commandsgo to fusion.  If 
I hit a certain command it’ll let me come back into the mac host system.

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Re: iBooks and pdf

2014-10-21 Thread Barry Abbott

Have you tried select ting a PDF file then pressing command iwhich gives you 
information about the file but you can also choose to associate the file with 
an app and continue tabbing to apply the change to all PDF files. For example, 
I have docuscan plus open my PDF files. I'm going to see if I can get it to 
work with iBooks. If the Mac version of iBooks handles PDF files then I don't 
see why this would not work. The advantage of docuscan plus is that it will 
automatically convert PDF image files which is why I chose to use it as my 
default PDF file reader.

Hope this helps.

Barry
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 Nothing.  pdf files are supposed to open in Preview not Ibooks.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
 
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 pdf file in ibooks, it launches preview. I can’t get it to open in iBooks. 
 what am I doing wrong here?
 
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ibooks

2014-10-21 Thread Wayne Coles

hello is it possible to have continuous read and if so please 
let me know thanks in advance

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Opening PDF files in iBooks on a Mac

2014-10-21 Thread Barry Abbott

Well, I decided to attempt to open a Take Control PDF Book. Using Command i I 
first selected the file then pressed command+I changed my default choice from 
Docuscan Plus to iBooks and applied the changes to all PDF files. Yes, iBooks 
opens and   Preview opens in the background. The actual file was open in 
preview. . So my theory did not work. It would appear that unlike iOS the Mac 
version of iBooks is not meant to read PDF files as Preview already exists.

Continuous reading does seem to work for the length of time I let it go.

So It's back to Docuscan Plus for me though I do like preview as well.

Barry

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Re: question re iTunes downloads