IPad mini versus iPad Pro with braille display?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle,
I just purchased the iPad mini for 64 gig and I wanted to know what people 
thoughts were with using it with a braille edge 40 display? Thank you so much 
and have a great day. I also thought about getting the iPad Pro 128 gig but due 
to finances I went with a mini. I didn't know if anyone has used this 
particular display with the iPad for many?
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> Joshua Tubbs : Nov 28 02:18PM -0500 
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> Hi all,
> Is it just me, or can you only jump to just the minutes and seconds of a 
> file? I’ve got a seven hour file here and need to cut it down to 6.5 hours, 
> and not being able to jump to 6:10:00 for example is really frustrating. Is 
> there a way to do something like this?
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> Brian Hansen : Nov 27 08:03PM -0600 
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> I’m hoping someone can give me a bit of help here. I need to create a 
> playlist for all of my wife’s Christmas music. Is there an easy way to get 
> her hundreds of songs into the play list, and then have iTunes generate a 
> randomly sorted playlist she can use on her iPhone? Thanks for any and all 
> help.
>  
> Blessings,
>  
> Brian
> "Larry Thacker Jr." : Nov 28 12:14PM -0600 
> 
> I was hoping someone with a little more experience would answer you, but I’ll 
> give it a try. I am not aware of any process to randomize the actual 
> playlist, but one can always use the shuffle feature to achieve the same 
> thing. I resigned myself to that when I first moved to iTunes. As for quickly 
> adding the music, if there’s some common feature of all the music, you could 
> easily set up a smart playlist based on that feature. For example, I use the 
> Grouping field for such things. I think it is used for classical tracks by 
> iTunes, but I’ve never seen anything in it that I didn’t put there. Granted, 
> I only have a handful of classical selections. Otherwise, I think you could 
> use the multiple selection feature to highlight a group of songs and add them 
> at once to a playlist using the context menu, (sorry for the windows 
> terminology) but I haven’t learned how to do that with Voiceover yet. I don’t 
> typically build playlists that large all at once, but what I did recently was 
> perform a search and then move individual tracks as I found them to the 
> playlist I was adding to. Once you have moved one, a menu item appears in the 
> context under “Add to Playlist” at second from the top that will add to the 
> last playlist you used.
>  
> Tim Kilburn : Nov 28 11:37AM -0700 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> It kind of depends on whether you are doing this on the iPhone itself, or 
> doing it on your Mac/PC in iTunes then moving it over. If you have Apple 
> Music or iTunes Match where the iCloud Music Library is present, then the 
> latter is the best, otherwise, we can make something work. In either case 
> though, this is most easily accomplished if the music is properly tagged as 
> having the Genre Christmas, Holiday or something common like that. Also, with 
> respect to the random order, simply use the Shuffle All feature and they will 
> be played in a random order, no need to have the playlist items in any 
> specific order for them to be played in the random order.
>  
> On the iPhone itself, I'd go into the Music app, double-tap on Library then 
> flick right until you hear Genre. Double-tap it. All Genres on the iPhone 
> will then be listed. Just double-tap on the one you want then double-tap on 
> the Shuffle All button. It will just play them in a random order for you.
>  
> In iTunes, you could use a similar method as above and simply select the 
> Genre you want, move to the table of songs within that Genre, do a Select All 
> and create a playlist from that selection using the cmd-shift-n shortcut. You 
> could also do a Find from within the main library of iTunes with the key word 
> "Holiday" or "Christmas". the resulting titles could then be added to a 
> playlist by pressing cmd-a to Select All, then use cmd-shift-n to create a 
> playlist. the resulting playlist could be transferred 

In need of help trying to find keyboard commands for brio edge 40

[Chenelle Hancock]

> Hello everyone,
Are there any places that I can go to find the proper keyboard commands to use 
my braille edge 40 display? I am having difficulties navigating my MacBook Pro 
13 inch model with my display. I am new to using my new display with my MacBook 
Pro 13 inch computer which is a 2015 mono. If anyone has any suggestions I 
would greatly appreciate your assistance. I will be taking a class online and I 
need to be able to navigate through the website successfully in order for me to 
complete my class. Thank you so much and have a great day.
Sincerely, Chenelle Hancock.
> 

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Using a braille edge 40 with the new MacBook Pro?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle,
It's been a long time since I posted on here. On my birthday which is June 1 I 
will be receiving a new MacBook Pro laptop computer along with the braille edge 
40 refreshable braille display. I wanted to know how well did both devices work 
together using it in conjunction with VoiceOver?
Thank you so much and have a great day.
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Sent from my iPhone

> Hello everyone,
It's been a while since I posted out here. I wanted to know I'm in the process 
of getting the iPad Pro and I wanted to know what Duxberry work with the iPad 
Pro if you're using windows word document in order to emboss a file from your 
iPad pro using your braille embosser?
Thank you so much and have a great day.
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> "E.T." : Feb 22 07:47AM -0800 
> 
> Trump has everything and nothing at the same time. Boggles my mind 
> those who follow him.
>  
> Back to fingerprints. I do not have a 6 do am curious. How does this 
> work? A single finger? Any one of the 10? How many tries does one have? 
> Surely not 10. I see a cretin knocking you down and choosing a finger to 
> unlock the phone then run off with it.
>  
> Ok its Monday and I need coffee. (smiles)
>  
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>  
> On 2/22/2016 5:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Scott Granados : Feb 22 11:10AM -0500 
> 
> No you raise good questions.
>  
> It’s a single finger print reader uncle the home button. On the 6S it was 
> upgraded and is very very fast but it’s worked reliably now for me in all 
> versions since release.
>  
> You can scan up to 5 individual fingers and it’s advised you scan one from 
> each hand in case you lose a hand or finger. (seriously)
>  
> The process is you rest your finger on the reader and it unlocks the phone or 
> works with applications.
>  
> Yes, you have up to 10 scans or 10 times to enter your passcode or some 
> combination of.
>  
> You could grab a finger and hold it to the scanner but you can also remotely 
> wipe the phone so that’s of limited value.
>  
>  
>  
> Sabahattin Gucukoglu : Feb 22 04:19PM 
> 
> OK, so I think it’s safe to come out of the woodwork and say what I think, 
> even if it rocks the boat a bit and ruins a good love-in.
>  
> I should qualify first by saying that I’m not American and therefore don’t 
> enjoy the benefits of whatever “Precedent” is set by this case. Nor do I 
> believe that the U.S. sovereignty is indicative of any real trend; at best it 
> is a matter for western “Democracies”, and I daresay you can guess how I feel 
> about those. I don’t even believe the U.S. is safe, given what we now know is 
> possible, following the revelation of the specifics.
>  
> This article, by a Canadian, captures my feelings very well:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/17/why_tim_cook_is_wrong_a_privacy_advocates_view/
>  
> In summary, I agree with the judge. I believe this was a PR campaign intended 
> to attract public support for Apple’s business practices, regardless of 
> Cook’s genuine ethical alignment on the issue. I believe Apple would have 
> acceded to the demands, had they been filed under seal, as Apple had 
> initially requested, and that Apple’s plea was necessary as a response to the 
> FBI’s refusal. I think this firmware hack qualifies as legal 
> assistance—particularly horrible legal assistance, but assistance 
> nevertheless, made more than possible by the ineffectual security of these 
> devices—and that the case for proper security far exceeds any question of 
> legal precedent, particularly when the search was legitimate and would 
> otherwise have been authorised without Apple’s assistance. Clearly, the fact 
> that the judiciary can ask for the data is the vulnerability here, and not 
> that they can compel a manufacturer to exploit a weakness in their products.
>  
> Therefore, the only defence is cryptography; anything less is mere security 
> by obscurity. We must have cryptography that works, is provable and is 
> verifiable. The iPhone does not provide this: Apple maintains the key for the 
> software upgrade process, and that process exposes the weakness of the 
> cryptography now in use to any person in possession of it, including but not 
> limited to the U.S. judiciary courtesy of Apple itself. Between Apple’s 
> hubris and the need for user convenience, Apple is using the court to defend 
> the indefensible, and are fighting entirely the wrong fight. We need 
> cryptography, under our control, and without the threat of trivial 
> circumvention. Until this changes, Apple’s appeal to the court and the public 
> is naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
>  
> So Apple should accede to the FBI, as ordered. It’s the best thing that 
> privacy 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 13 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello Anthony,
This is Chenelle,
I wanted to thank you I have been trying to get help for two months now and no 
one knew what I was talking about? I was wondering if you can give me 
step-by-step instructions on how to download the BrailleTouch able to my 
computer using my Mac? I'm never done it before and I want to make sure that I 
do it right!
Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
Sincerely, Chenelle

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 ideas?
  
 All the best
 Jürgen
 Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net: Apr 20 02:06AM -0500 
 
 First, the fact that you cannot send direct messages to people who do not 
 follow you is not a fault of Nightowl. That's a limitation of Twitter itself. 
 As to other clients, forget it. Nightowl is the one and only Twitter client 
 which we can use for the Mac.
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
  
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
  
 Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net: Apr 20 09:29AM +0200 
 
 Thanks for your answer.
 I know that this is not the fault of Night Owl. But I don’t like the fact a 
 developer is not availabel directly, in this case even not at all.
 But that’s not my request. Again, thanks for answering my question.
 J
  
 sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com: Apr 20 06:17PM +1000 
 
 Hello, 
  
 Night Owl was updated yesterday. 
  
 The release notes claim that some issues relating to account management were 
 addressed. 
  
 You should be running version 2.83. 
  
 I echo the sentiments forget any other Twitter client on the desktop. 
  
 Best, 
  
 Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
  
 B.A. Business Information Systems 
  
 RMIT University 
  
 Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com: Apr 20 06:24AM -0500 
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you follow 
 them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set to like 
 five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the table i only 
 move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top i just press 0 
 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the beginning and so i'm 
 automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
  
  
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
  
 phone 979-215-1770
  
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
  
 twitter @maxwellivey
  
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 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
  
 Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: Apr 20 10:00AM -0400 
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If you 
 close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you leave 
 it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the problem is 
 and how we can reproduce it?
  
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 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 Back to top
 For what it's worth: Netflix help center article on accessing subtitles, 
 captions, and alternative audio on various devices 
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com: Apr 20 09:43AM -0400 
 
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 Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 13 topics 
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com: Apr 20 07:49AM -0400 
 
 Hello Anthony,
 This is Chenelle,
 I wanted to thank you I have been trying to get help for two months now and 
 no one knew what I was talking about? I was wondering if you can give me 
 step-by-step instructions on how to download the BrailleTouch able to my 
 computer using my Mac? I'm never done it before and I want to make sure that 
 I do it right!
 Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
 Sincerely, Chenelle
 Back to top
 Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch! 
 Kevin Cussick the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com: Apr 20 09:46AM +0100 
 
 Hi Donna, Please keep us informed on how the watch performs watching 
 with interest.
  
 On 18/04/2015 21:22, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Apr 20 06:47AM -0500 
 
 Will do, Kevin.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 Back to top
 Netflix on MacBook Air   
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com: Apr 20 05:52AM -0400 
 
 I am trying to sign out of Netflicks on my iPhone and MacBook Air. I am 
 double tapping Sign Out on my iPhone, but it is not working. (I had to get 
 sighted assistance to do this last night.) On my macBook Air, I have tried 
 various browsers, and cannot locate a sign out or a log out. There are a 
 bunch of unlabeled links just as there are unlabeled buttons or silent spaces 
 in the iPhone app. Some help would be appreciated, as I wish to sign out of 
 everything so that, perhaps, maybe, audio description might decide to show 
 itself in the languages options menu and then actually work when I log back 
 in.
 TIA. 
 
 Christine
 Jamie Tachiyama jathlet...@gmail.com: Apr 20 02:55AM -0700 
 
 I would call Netflix customer service. I did that last night, they added a 
 flag to my account, and now it is appearing for me. It is only available for 
 daredevil though.
  
 Jamie T
 Blind Dragon Hobbies
 One stop shopping for all your gaming needs.
 http://www.blinddragonhobbies.com/
 Twitter: @BDHobbies
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blinddragonhobbies
  
  
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com: Apr 20 05

Russian braille table

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle,
Does anyone out here know of anywhere where I could find a Russian braille 
table to download to my mac? I am trying to read the Russian braille Cyrillic 
alphabets and other Russian words via Safari with my brill display and I am in 
need of a rush umbrella table!
I have posted this question more than three times on this group and have not 
received a response as of yet!.
Thank you so much! Have a nice day!

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle,
I wanted to know does anyone out there speak Russian? Also, do you use a broom 
Russian table in order to reap the Cyrillic Russian words via your Mac? With a 
brill display? If so can you Facebook me any help would be great shoot greatly 
appreciate it thank you. Sincerely,

Sent from my iPhone

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 Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!   
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com: Apr 18 03:22PM -0500 
 
 I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
 look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
 would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen. It was hard to tell much 
 because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
 thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I 
 have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
 pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
 highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
 so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200. Looking forward to 
 its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 george b gbma...@gmail.com: Apr 18 01:29PM -0700 
 
 Cool, when will you get yours late july...LOL
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 13:23
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!
  
 I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
 look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
 would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen. It was hard to tell much 
 because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
 thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I 
 have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
 pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
 highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
 so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200. Looking forward to 
 its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
 Cheers,
 Donna
  
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 gs geoffsli...@gmail.com: Apr 18 04:32PM -0400 
 
 I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 days. 
 I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have said. I 
 keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods around my 
 neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO 
 and just don't see how having something on my wrist is really going to make 
 that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do 
 understand it though.
  
  
 On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
  
 I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
 look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
 would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen. It was hard to tell much 
 because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
 thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I 
 have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
 pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
 highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
 so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200. Looking forward to 
 its arrival and getting 

Using a braille pin 12 display with the Russian Cyrillic alphabet?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone
This is Chenelle,
I wanted to know has anyone trying to use their brill display in reading the 
Cyrillic Russian alphabet in braille? Via their iPad or iPhone? Thank you so 
much and have a great day.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com: Apr 13 09:52AM -0700 
 
 When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's
 still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using
 quick nav for this to work?
  
  
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Apr 13 11:22AM -0600 
 
 Hi,
  
 No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of course, 
 is only usable when the Preview Pane is active. As long as the VO-j action 
 automatically interacts with the Message Content area, it should still work 
 for you.  Should is my favourite word in computer-land though.
  
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
 On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:52, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's
 still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using
 quick nav for this to work?
  
  
  
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 Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com: Apr 13 10:50AM -0700 
 
 I don' thave the preview payne open so that would explain it. VO-J
 does read the window but in the same way that reading it from the
 scroll view does.
  
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 An app for recording on the mac?   
 Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com: Apr 13 11:36AM -0500 
 
 Hi, Annie,
  
 Amadeus Pro will certainly do what you want, but at $59, it may be a bit more 
 program than you need. Garage Band is free, but I have not played with it so 
 I don’t know if it would be more trouble than it’s worth to set it up for 
 what you need doing. You can visit www.thetechjuggernaut.com 
 http://www.thetechjuggernaut.com/ and check out Matt Vollbrecht’s podcast 
 on Garage Band. Hope this gets you started.
  
 Take care and have a great day.
 Jamie Pauls
 jamiepa...@gmail.com
  
  
  
 Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Apr 13 07:23PM +0200 
 
 Hi Jamie.
  
 I have amadeus pro, but I have never used it much. Do we have any resources, 
 podcasts or any other resources out there, which helps us to learn how to use 
 amadeus as blind people. I have some problems to figure it out.
  
 Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com: Apr 13 12:30PM -0500 
 
 Your best resource is Jonathan Mosen’s audio tutorial entitled Become a 
 Maestro with Amadeus Pro. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-store/ 
 http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-store/
 The tutorial is $24.95, but considering the money you have already spent on 
 Amadeus Pro, you might as well spend the extra cash for a really well-done, 
 comprehensive tutorial on how to use the program. There are resources on 
 www.applevis.com http://www.applevis.com/ as well, but nothing will prepare 
 you for using the program in the same way that Jonathan’s tutorial will.
  
 Take care and have a great day.
 Jamie Pauls
 jamiepa...@gmail.com
  
  
  
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 turbo tax   
 Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net: Apr 13 12:33PM -0400 
 
 The web based version works fine, not sure if there is an installable 
 version as well, but since the web based version works, you can just use that.
 Original message:
  
 george b gbma...@gmail.com: Apr 13 09:51AM -0700 
 
 I used it for the past 6 years and this years is he most accessable. I perty 
 much had access to all and if it didn’t read for some reason something I 
 found if you just went backwords it did
  
 
  
 Did 5 tax returns with it
  
 
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 07:55
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: turbo tax
  
 
  
 Hi All,
  
 
  
 Does turbo tax for the Mac work with voice over? Has anyone attempted to use 
 it?
  
 
  
 Best,
  
 
  
 Juan M. Hernandez
  
 Access technology Specialist
  
 Braille Institute of America
  
 4555 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:17 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 
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 Bypass Trash - 6 Updates
 Some more Questions - 4 Updates
 Another Shot at Yosemite: iBooks Aversion - 2 Updates
 Turbotax application - 4 Updates
 iTunes folders - 2 Updates
 boot camp drivers - 1 Update
 Audio Hijack Pro  version 3 - 2 Updates
 Converting M3Us to MP3s - 1 Update
 question about facebook on skype - 1 Update
 A question about setting up hotkeys.; Keyboard Maestro - 1 Update
 Where are my books in ibooks actually located? - 1 Update
 Bypass Trash   
 The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com: Jan 26 10:27PM -0800 
 
 Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently 
 delete a file. It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety 
 measure but there are times its an unnecessary extra step.
  
 Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or 
 are there other apps that are better?
  
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com: Jan 27 09:06AM -0500 
 
 Hello,
 This problem is solved simply. If go into the terminal, and use the rm
 command in order to delete your files, they are not moved to the ~.trash
 directory. Unfortunately, their doesn't seem to be a way to change this
 behavior from within the GUI, but perhaps other users will correct me. Hope
 this helps.
  
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:27 AM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 wrote:
  
 John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com: Jan 27 09:56AM -0500 
 
 I believe if you use command-shift-backspace, that bypasses the Trash and 
 purges the file. At least, prior to Mavericks, it worked. I always send to 
 the Trash first, but I believe you still can bypass this.
  
  
 Take Care
  
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
  
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
 Lion
  
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
  
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
  
  
  
  
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Jan 27 08:36AM -0700 
 
 Hi,
  
 The cmd-shift-delete does not do that. You can have the GUI ignore the “Are 
 You Sure” dialog when emptying the trash by using cmd-option-shift-delete 
 reducing one step along the way. In my opinion, opening Terminal and using 
 the “rm” command also does not actually make it any faster as the poster is 
 hoping. It would take more keystrokes to change to the Terminal app, enter 
 the “rm” command followed by the file path, than a quick cmd-delete to put 
 the item in the Trash, then a cmd-option-shift-delete to empty it. I recall a 
 thread a number of years back somewhere on the Net where people were 
 discussing the same sort of thing. Some folks think it’s better the Windows 
 way, others prefer the safety of the Apple way, it’s all a matter of opinion, 
 I guess.
  
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
 Marshall Scott mfsc...@me.com: Jan 27 07:15AM -0700 
 
 Hi,
 I believe you can set up the Empty Trash function to perform a secure erase 
 where the deleted data is overwritten.  You pay a time penalty to do this but 
 it will be more secure.
 Marshall
  
 John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com: Jan 27 11:08AM -0500 
 
 Right. I forgot about the option key. I personally think it's better to have 
 the safety mechanism of going to the Trash first. I have accidentally deleted 
 my share of items without realizing it until later so the command-z to undo 
 the command wasn't available at that point.
  
  
 Take Care
  
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
  
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
 Lion
  
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
  
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
  
  
  
  
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 Some more Questions   
 Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com: Jan 27 05:59AM -0800 
 
 Hello again, 
 FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really 
 helped a lot 
 I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment 
 running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some 
 research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 
 Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and 
 latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 
 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these 
 assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, 
 GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That 
 is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't 
 believe that system needs to be 

Braille translation settings on iOS devices?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle, I wanted to know when you're using a refreshable braille 
display on I was device such as: iPhone, iPod touch, iPad mini or iPad?
Can you download bro translation programs for other languages suchS French, 
Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic or Russian? Reason for my asking for this 
question is because, I am learning Russian and I want to learn Russian braille 
so I can read or write Russian. There are no resources in the US for which I 
can access the Russian Cyrillic alphabet. I do not own and A Windows computer. 
I only have a Mac. Mike took Sperry program with my Romeo embosser will not 
work with my Mac. Furthermore, the only way I would be able to access materials 
and Russian Brio is to write to the library for the blind in Moscow Russia. 
However, I don't know enough Russian in order to write them in their own 
language. Is there anyone out there thatlives outside of the US that could help 
me with this problem?
Thank you so much for your time I most greatly appreciate it.
Sincerely, Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:31 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 
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 iTunes 12 and downloads in iTunes match. - 3 Updates
 messages app revisited - 1 Update
 Audio Book Builder transferring books - 5 Updates
 how to add events from emails into calendar - 4 Updates
 can't add Google account to messenbger - 3 Updates
 remapping the capslock for linux - 1 Update
 Braille and Spanish - 2 Updates
 Mysterious - 2 Updates
 using Google chat? - 3 Updates
 Yosemite and a Dead Finder / Partitian an Active Drive - 1 Update
 iTunes 12 and downloads in iTunes match. 
 Gabriele Battaglia iz4...@libero.it: Jan 07 09:08PM +0100 
 
 Hi all.
 I’m a subscriber of an iTunes match account. Before I was able to replace my 
 old mp3 file with a copy of them downloaded from the could, which is at 256 
 KBPS.
  
 Now, on the iTunes 12 last release, the download option is no longer 
 available within the context menu.
 How Can I do?
  
 Any suggestion will be very appreciated.
 Gabriel.
 —
 Namasté!
 Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Jan 07 01:17PM -0700 
 
 Hi,
  
 You must first delete the copy of the mp3 on your local machine. Then, as 
 long as you didn’t tell iTunes to remove it from the Cloud, it will be 
 available for download the same as in previous versions of iTunes. Also, you 
 must have the “Show iTunes in the Cloud Purchases” box checked in the iTunes 
 Preferences under the Store pane.
  
 Best.
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
 Gabriele Battaglia gabriele.battag...@gmail.com: Jan 07 09:26PM +0100 
 
 Thanks Tim.
 Precious as usual.
 Gabriel.
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 messages app revisited   
 Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com: Jan 07 12:25PM -0800 
 
 Hi,
 I’ve got Facebook chat set up on my messages app under jabber. Is it possible 
 to set it up by forgoing jabber? the set up process was pretty complicated as 
 I recall and not exactly the most straight forward thing on the mac. also, I 
 understand that Adium can handle window live messenger but I’m wondering if 
 this could also be set up in messages? And finally, is it possible to have 
 notifications set up when new contacts go online?
 I want to use this app more regularly and cut out other apps like Adium.
 Thanks
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 Audio Book Builder transferring books 
 Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com: Jan 07 09:09AM -0600 
 
 Hi:
 They didn’t appear in the music bookshlef, even when I tried to import them t 
 o music by going to file add to library.
 Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com: Jan 07 10:26AM -0600 
 
 Hello:
 I’m still not having any luck. Yes, my book shows up in itunes 12 under audio 
 books, but it will not sync to my phone. Here is what I do. I have iTunes 12, 
 and an iPhone 5s.
 I have manually manage content checked.
 I connect the cable to my Mac, and iPhone. I open iTunes. I navigate past the 
 music radio button, and go to the more pop up. I choose audio books, and 
 press vo space. I vo right arrow over to the my audio books and make sure it 
 says selected. I vo right arrow again until I hear book grid no selection. I 
 interact wit the grid and hear my audio book title: it says 1 of 1. There is 
 no check box here. I make sure VO says selected though. I vo right arrow past 
 the iPhone pop up button until I hear scroll area. I interact with that 
 scroll area. I go to the end, stop interacting, go across until I hear the 
 sync button. I vo space on sync. Itunes dings, I eject phone, and I have no 
 book on phone.
 What am I doing wrong? 
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Jan 07 09:55AM -0700 
 
 Hi,
  
 You are selecting the incorrect Audio Books item. When your iPhone is 
 selected, navigate right once past the Scroll area to the Playlists table. 
 Interact with it and move down to select Audio Books there then stop 
 

How to transfer songs from dropbox app on your iPhone to your iTunes?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:17 PM, hello everyone,
 Issue now it's been a while since I toasted the question out here.
 However, I wanted to know how do you transfer songs from your dropbox to your 
 iTunes? Using voice over.
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 The switch from Microsoft to Apple - 3 Updates
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 Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll - 2 
 Updates
 possible new bug - 4 Updates
 Standard view, any tips? - 1 Update
 VO pronouncing Spanish Accent marks strangely 
 Alwine Hardus ahar...@xs4all.nl: Jan 05 10:08PM +0100 
 
 Hai,
 It is because in the pdf file vo places the accent begind the caracter, just 
 if it is another caracter. I had the same problem and the same solution. 
  
 Alwine
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 The switch from Microsoft to Apple 
 Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com: Jan 05 01:39PM -0600 
 
 Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like Ivona 
 and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that they are 
 working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when I see it. I 
 think that all of us who like their voices should keep bothering them to make 
 their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple of years. Emails, 
 tweets, whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices heard.
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
  
 Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com: Jan 05 11:55AM -0800 
 
 I will also use both systems as I do a lot of productivity stuff on the 
 windows side. Although this area within OS X is improving, it is still not at 
 the level of office on the PC.
 Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com: Jan 05 01:05PM -0800 
 
 I agree with you. The only reason I open the Windows side is for the Office 
 suites. I have tried the iWorks suite for the Mac, but it doesn't offer me 
 the vast options in Word to mark up a document. JMO.
  
 Eileen
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
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 Any Way Around The Add Quick Event in the Calendar Application? 
 William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com: Jan 05 09:47PM +0100 
 
 Hi,
 thx for the workaround about the .-symbol in the search field.
 However idd, this is a workaround.
  
 That this feature isn't present you said, seems strange to me.
 In ios, you can press teh list button in day-view and there you can see all 
 future events, also recurring events are included and past events aren't 
 shown.
  
 If this is idd right, it seems normal to me that this seame functionallity 
 should be available on osx and ios.
 Any comments are very welcome.
  
 kind regards,
 William windels
 Mvg
 william Windels
  
 Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
  
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 Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll 
 April aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com: Jan 05 10:05AM -0800 
 
 I am sorry. I'd email. However, the email address is truncated.  I have never 
 been able to get those commands to work.
 Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com: Jan 05 02:05PM -0600 
 
 Suit yourself. Although You won't get any help if you won't let us help you 
 one on one. We're just as confused as you are but unless you add us on Skype 
 or at least call us on FaceTime, we're as stuck as you are.
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
  
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 possible new bug   
 Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com: Jan 05 01:06PM -0500 
 
 Yes, my cursors are following one another. The funny thing is, it works as it 
 should in other applications. TextEdit, for example.
  
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com: Jan 05 11:23AM -0800 
 
 I as well have faced this issue even with the trackpad turned off. I’m 
 convinced that messages has something to do with it as I have not encountered 
 it again once I have it not load.
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Jan 05 12:40PM -0700 
 
 Hi,
  
 In Messages, I was able to duplicate your issue, but not in Mail. It 
 certainly was frustrating how the keyboard seemed to be disabled although VO 
 functions on the keyboard did appear to work normally. Here’s some info and 
 easier workaround for you.
  
 • If I was Interacting with the text area when typing my message, the problem 
 didn’t occur.
 • If I was just entering text without the Interaction, then the keyboard 
 became more or less useless except for VO navigation. Rather odd, but I 
 haven’t figured out why one part would work and another wouldn’t, other than 
 my possible explanation below.
 • Going into other apps like Terminal still 

How do you download voices for your Mac?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! How do you download voices from Jimac using accessibility? 
Thank you so much have a great day

Sent from my iPhone

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 Has Applevis Published The New VO Features Of Yosemite Yet? - 5 Updates
 Yosemite Update - 3 Updates
 Is Anyone Else Having Problems Making Bootable Version Of Yosemite? - 2 
 Updates
 starting to get irritated by IOS 8 - 2 Updates
 One Password - 2 Updates
 selective folders in Dropbox - 1 Update
 Scripting VoiceOver Utility - 1 Update
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 The latest version of Garage Band going busy   
 Vic vtsa...@gmail.com: Oct 17 12:03AM -0700 
 
 Hello.
 A couple of hours ago I downloaded the latest update to Garage Band which 
 promised some accessibility fixes.
 While the fixes were there, for example, the time is now announced, the 
 smart controls inspector is fairly accessible, etc, I stumbled upon the 
 problem of GB going busy to the point where I had to force quit the program.
 Has anyone experienced this behavior?
  
 Best,
 Victor
 George Cassell apollose...@earthlink.net: Oct 17 12:32AM -0700 
 
 Can anyone tell me what a “badge” means in Mail? 
  
 — George
 christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com: Oct 17 09:16AM +0100 
 
 When you see a badge VoiceOver tells you the number of unread items besides 
 the app with the badge icon. For example Mail may show a badge with 1 unread 
 email. Not sure what it looks like; maybe a picture of a badge you would wear 
 on your shirt for example.
  
 Sent from my Macbook Pro
  
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 answering calls on the mac?   
 May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca: Oct 17 04:10AM -0400 
 
 Hey there everyone.
  
 For those that have the latest OS for the mac is there a setting I need to 
 find or app so that calls also show on my mac?
  
 I've looked everywhere and can't figure what I'm missing, thanks.
  
 May and LD, Luna Moon!
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com: Oct 17 09:12AM +0100 
 
 Open FaceTime, then its preferences and make sure iPhone cellular calls is 
 checked. You need to also ensure this is turned on for your iPhone. You do 
 this by opening Settings then FaceTime.
  
 Sent from my Macbook Pro
  
 May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca: Oct 17 04:14AM -0400 
 
 lol, ok, now I feel stupid hahah thanks.
  
 May and LD, Luna Moon!
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
  
 May and LD, Luna Moon!
 www.canadianlynx.ca
  
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 Has Applevis Published The New VO Features Of Yosemite Yet?   
 Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com: Oct 16 10:06PM -0500 
 
 Hey all. Like I said in my previous message, it took three tries, but 
 Yosemite is finally on my Mac. I was just wondering if Applevis posted the 
 new VO features of Yosemite yet. I know I was a beta tester since July, but 
 to be honest, I didn't notice any new features at all besides the system wide 
 features that Apple talked about.
 As for beta testing Yosemite, it was quite the experience. I remember with 
 beta 2 I thought my computer would never start up, because it stayed on the 
 Apple screen for God knows how long. Maybe it's because this thing is almost 
 4 years old, but who knows. Also in one of the betas, I think it was either 
 beta 3 or 4, the software update option in the Apple menu disappeared, and 
 even with the general public release it's not there. And on my end at least, 
 when booting up, I no longer hear the start up chime. I just see the Apple 
 logo. This started in beta 6. But one of the great things about this version, 
 and some of you may notice it as well, you can see a notification that your 
 Mac is being optomized and that it may effect your performance and battery. I 
 think they should've done that before Yosemite, but I digress. Also, on my 
 end at least, they kept the feedback assistant app so if you have any 
 problems, you can report them with that app. All in all, Yosemite is awesome, 
 and it was a pleasure beta testing it all this summer up until now.
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: Oct 16 11:36PM -0400 
 
 Yes, that article went up a few hours ago. Here's the link:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x-news/features-and-bugs-os-x-1010-yosemite
  
 --
 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com: Oct 17 03:49PM +1000 
 
 Hi. just reading about the voice over lag bug with Yosemite. is anyone who 
 has updated experienced this bug? How bad is it?
  
 
 regards
 Maria and crew from australia
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
  
  
  
 Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com: Oct 16 
 10:21PM -0700  
 
 I am running in to it 

How to fix a CD drive on a Mac Mini

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chanel it's been a long time since I've posted out here 
however, a friend of mine has a Mac Mini 2009 city drive is not working 
correctly in the spitting out CDs we went to system preferences then to city 
drive we checked all the boxes that needed to be church and it was still 
spinning out the CDs she's trying to upload music to her iTunes library and 
cannot do this task because your driver is not working so what is shesupposed 
to do about this problem any assistance would be gratefully appreciated thank 
you so much

Sent from my iPhone

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 It’s official, Apple confirms October 16th special event: ‘It’s been way too 
 long’   
 Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: Oct 08 11:23PM +0100 
 
 My newly-arrived iPhone 6 Plus seems perfectly robust. I love it. What's all 
 the whinging about? You'd have to go mad at it to bend this.
  
 As to the new stuff, well, I'll have to save up for anything new, but I think 
 it likely I'll be staying put regardless. My earnest wish, should I ever have 
 the good fortune to get it, would be a top-spec Mac Pro for all my server and 
 virtualisation duties; then I could give up on hounding the Minis all the 
 time. The iMac--despite the fact that I keep plugging in optical drives, I'll 
 keep my mid 11. iPad--nah, time to step off that bandwagon, I fancy, and not 
 just because the iPhone 6 really is big enough for my needs. The current 
 full-sized iPad Air is just fine, and I don't need anything else. The watch 
 can wait until it's proven. So really, the Mac Mini, if I don't cast it aside 
 and keep saving up for a Pro, which Apple is well within its power to ensure 
 doesn't happen.
  
 Much as I love Apple products, I happen to agree with those who worry about 
 the incremental nature of recent announcements. Not sure what the problem is 
 there; perhaps Apple should go back to touting functionality rather than 
 specs, which is always a losing battle for Apple nowadays. And their costs 
 too; something needs to be done about those, or else Apple will end up in the 
 same place with iOS as it is for the Mac ecosystem, which is actually showing 
 some gratifying growth. Now that Windows 9--sorry, 10--is announced, with 
 Windows 7-compatible metaphors, it remains to see whether that trend will 
 continue, or whether it wasn't just the Windows 8 escapists gasping for a 
 quick breath of usability. It'd be the ultimate irony if Micros~1 failed yet 
 again, and Mac gained market share not because of some intrinsic superiority, 
 but simply that the alternative was much worse. :)
 Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com: Oct 08 08:58PM -0500 
 
 This pretty much echoes what the panel on MacBreak Weekly said on their 
 latest podcast. The latest tokes is that people are claiming that their hair 
 is getting caught in their iPhones. Things are getting a little out of hand 
 if you ask me. I plan to get an iPhone six as soon as IiOS 8.1 comes out.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com: Oct 08 07:24PM -0700 
 
 I had been waiting to upgrade my phone for some time and did choose the 
 6plus. The phone isn't here yet, but feels like a mini, mini in my hand. I 
 did test to see if it would fit in my pocket -- and it did.
 I have not upgraded my current phone to IOS 8 due to multiple bug warnings 
 from a number of blind people around here.
  
 Sent from my IPhone 4S
  
 On 8 Oct 2014, at 13:00, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
  
 No, the bugs aren't all ironed out but I for one wasn't expecting that this 
 soon. As for never wanting to own a 6+ and not being crazy about the 6, 
 that's opinion to which we are al entitled. I am enjoying my 6+, with iOS8 
 despite the bugs, imensely and the reason many different phones are available 
 and sell well is because people's likes and dislikes are diverse. I realize a 
 lot of people feel the 6+ is too large and that certainly is a valid opinion; 
 for myself, I would upgrade my remaining 5S to a 6+ now if I could which is 
 probably minority opinion but proves the diversity of people's responses. As 
 for bending, I am not expecting that to happen, but if it does I have Apple 
 Care and wil request a replacement just as I would for any other product.
  
  
  
 -- 
 Cheryl
  
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:

How do you change a wave file to MP3 file using your iPhone five ass?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chenelle I wanted to know how do you change away file 
to an MP3 file? Via your iPhone 5s using your memo voice recording app? I am 
taking a class at the Hurtley school for the blind and I have to record my 
lessons and I have to send it via an MP3 file and I wanted to know how would 
you go about doing this using your iPhone 5s? Thank you so much you have a 
great Day

Sent from my iPhone

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 blind square help.   
 Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com: Aug 26 02:24PM -0700 
 
 Once you have chosen a business or location, you should have the options 
 start tracking and plan a route. You want to select plan a route so that you 
 can use BlindSquare and the third-party application. If the third-party isn't 
 available on that view, you cannot use the app. Google Maps works great and 
 it is free.
  
 Regards, Feliciano
  
  
  
 Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327
 Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
  
  
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
  
 Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com: Aug 26 04:59PM -0500 
 
 Hi there 
 Somebody may have already said this, but you can pair Blind Square with Apple 
 Maps as well, which is already on your iPhone. You need to decide whether you 
 want Blind Square to tell each street you come to. If you are riding in a 
 car, you may not want that. You can set this in Blind Square's settings 
 section. I forgot to set that once, and I was sorry. 
  
 Gigi 
  
 Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com: Aug 26 06:57PM -0400 
 
 I did select plan a route, and the only ones that were listed were google 
 maps, and maps, which surprised me, considering the fact that the web site 
 says it works with multiple apps, so have no idea why those were the only 
 ones listed.
 Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com: Aug 26 07:34PM -0400 
 
 It will only recognize apps that are installed on your phone. Do you have 
 other GPS apps on your phone?
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com: Aug 26 08:19PM -0400 
 
 I had scout maps installed on my phone, but it didn't pick that up, which I 
 found interesting.
 Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com: Aug 26 08:36PM -0400 
 
 Which one do you use? I eventually had to uninstall scout maps and go back to 
 google maps, which I had a love/hate relationship with, mostly because it 
 didn't let me know when I'd reached my destination, which was frustrating for 
 me.
 Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com: Aug 26 09:05PM -0400 
 
 I use Google maps and most situations, I preferred over Apple maps.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com: Aug 27 01:33PM +1200 
 
 I prefer Apple Maps. 
  
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 Back to top
 Trouble downloading/deleting TV show from iTunes store   
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com: Aug 26 09:08PM -0400 
 
 OK, folks. I purchased season 1 of a television show from iTunes today on my 
 iPhone. I was only able to download single episodes. I attempted to download 
 the season onto my computer by going to my account on my MacBook, but it 
 claimed there were no undownloaded items.
 When I selected TV shows in iTunes, it shows the name of the show, but I 
 cannot get to individual episodes.
 Additionally, I cannot delete episodes I have watched already from Videos 
 on my iPhone; again, it is only showing the title of the show, but will not 
 allow me to edit by episode. (I can view individual episodes, but not edit.)
 What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.
 Christine
 Back to top
 Smart Mailboxes   
 Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Aug 27 11:25AM +1200 
 
 To answer the original poster's question, I have experienced a number of 
 annoyances in Mail under mavericks, but smart mailboxes are not one. For me 
 they are working as well as they always have.
 I like smart mailboxes a lot, and for business purposes they really help me 
 to keep track of different projects easily. For example, I have a smart 
 mailbox for each book and tutorial I have produced, where I keep purchase 
 records and confirmation emails. It makes it easy for me to see who has 
 purchased what, and if I need to, to contact everyone who purchased a product 
 at once. Very nifty.
 I don't think 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 12 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 21, 2014, at 13:25, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 
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 advanced voice over? - 6 Updates
 final cur pro and other programs - 2 Updates
 with some explnations please, how can i share my hard disks with mavericks? - 
 2 Updates
 Accessible FLV video converter? - 3 Updates
 Searching in a large table with voiceover - 2 Updates
 Remapping keys with VM fusion - 2 Updates
 Odd behaviour with arrow keys. - 2 Updates
 DVD Player for the Mac - 1 Update
 a question with regard to ClamXav and scanning e-mails - 2 Updates
 can't figure out how to open NFB Newsline email attachments - 1 Update
 Haptic Feedback Technolegy - 1 Update
 icloud mail questions - 1 Update
 advanced voice over?   
 John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com: Aug 20 08:32PM -0600  
 
 Jonathan:
  
 This hot key to know how many characters are left in a tweet when in 
 YoruFukurou sounds like a dead useful feature. Having never created a hot key 
 for this, or any other purpose come to think of it, could you give me some 
 instructions on how I might accomplish this task?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 -John
 Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Aug 21 02:39PM +1200 
 
 Hi John, the trick is to create an activity for Night Owl so you have a 
 unique series of hotspots for that app. Then locate the area where the 
 character count is shown and assign that area to a hotspot. If you're like me 
 and like pneumonics, reassign the hotkey for the hotspot to something 
 logical. I have mine on the right Option key with C, for character count.
 Works a treat!
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
  
 Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com: Aug 21 09:05AM +0100 
 
 Aha! Thanks Jonathan, I thought that performance bug with activities was just 
 me, but evidently not. Yes, very annoying; put a complete damper on Nuance 
 for me, since I have Safari automatically initiate my web activity, and of 
 course Safari is almost always open which means simply pressing Vo D to get 
 to the dock will produce an annoyingly long pause before I can do anything 
 else. Sincerely hope it gets fixed and I'll dash off a note to Apple 
 Accessibility about it now too.
 Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com: Aug 21 10:15AM -0600 
 
 How do I know if it’s a Nuance voice that I am using? Are they all Nuance 
 voices except for Alex and some of the low quality voices? I have surely 
 noticed that when I want to change voices it is a very sluggish process. I 
 usually just stick to Ava. I want to try activities. If I use the same voice 
 for all apps, will performance still be sluggish? Is there a work around or 
 do you just have to live with the sluggish behavior?
  
 Thanks,
 Christina
  
 Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: Aug 21 12:58PM -0400 
 
 Most every voice is Nuance, yes. Alex is not, and the older voices (Fred, and 
 the other old-style synthesizers) are not, but any you have to download are. 
 Yes, the bug is present even if the activity does not change the voice in 
 use. No, there is no workaround I know of; keep emailing 
 accessibil...@apple.com and using www.apple.com/feedback.
  
 --
 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Aug 21 11:08AM -0600 
 
 Hi,
  
 I wonder if this has something to do with announcements. When using the voice 
 Alex, if you switch in or out of the app that you have an Activity applied 
 to, VO announces “VoiceOver Settings Activity along with a view other App 
 notes. If you use a different voice, non-Apple, then this phrase is not 
 announced but silence is not golden. Sometimes, if I press ctrl twice to make 
 VO be quiet, then this announcement/pause is eliminated or decreased.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
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 final cur pro and other programs   
 Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com: Aug 21 12:59PM +0200 
 
 i am ust browsing the spec on my computer, it said i do have final cut pro 
 and Aperture, but when i check my computer i haven't installed it. how can i 
 install those? when i go to apps store i need to buy it, but why do i have to 
 but it if it already pack on my computer?
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com: Aug 21 12:29PM -0400 
 
 What spec are you checking? Final Cut and Aperture usually aren't 
 included on a machine unless you made special arrangements.
  
 CB
  
 On 8/21/14, 6:59 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
  
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 with some explnations please, how can i share my hard disks with mavericks?   
   
 ramy moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com: Aug 21 04:32PM +0300 
 
 Hi all:
 sorry for asking this question again but really i can not do it, i have my pc 
 that runs windows 7, and i need to see teh contents that are on my hd, i need 
 to see them from my mavericks, because on mac i don't have enough space 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 hello everyone,

iwanted to know if you download songs from a music streaming services such as, 
in the case of rap city using your i phone 5 s?.  How can you remove the music 
that you download on to the app onto your mack? bye the way, i do not use a 
windows computer.
this is chenelle asking this particular question.
thanks so much for your help.
i really do appreciate it.

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Difficulties with access five using voice over

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, the session now! I'm having difficulties using Spotify on my 
iPhone 5s with voice-over E I Rhapsody out as well I'm trying to access my 
music and transfer it over to my iTunes five very on my Mac how do I go about 
doing this thank you so much have a great day Sent from my iPhone

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   Today's topic summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Alex on IOS 8 [12 Updates]
 any updated podcast on garage band? [1 Update]
 My first clean install of Os X [2 Updates]
 recommendations for headset with i-Phone 5 [2 Updates]
 changing voices on ios [5 Updates]
 Access: DropBox  VoiceOver (VO) [1 Update]
 new version of Skype [1 Update]
 Problems With Downloding Maps In Navigon [1 Update]
  Alex on IOS 8
 Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com Jun 20 01:42PM -0400  
 
 Oh wow, that will be amazing, I always wondered when/if that would ever 
 happen.
  
 
 Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Jun 20 11:33AM -0700  
 
 Yes, I would love that. My hearing impairment is such that I understand male 
 voices much better than female ones. Currently, I use Daniel, but I'd much 
 rather use Alex.
  
 Teresa
  
 Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
 How I wonder what you're at
 --Lewis Carroll
  
  
 
 isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Jun 20 01:41PM -0500  
 
 I would love that too. I currently use samantha.
 isaac
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 
  
  
 
 Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com Jun 20 02:56PM -0400  
 
 Yes, I do not like the Daniel voice.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Jun 20 07:59PM +0100  
 
 I do not like Daniel either. At the present time, I have to use Samantha. 
 However when Alex comes on iOS eight, he will be my preferred voice as I use 
 him on the back!
  
  
 
 Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Jun 20 03:02PM -0400  
 
 I honestly wish we had the option of using different american, australian and 
 british voices. I mean, apple has them available to them, why can't the users 
 have a non-jailbreaking option?
  
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available 
 now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June.
 Spots are limited, sign up here
 http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
  
  
  
  
 
 David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com Jun 20 08:06PM +0100  
 
 I agree. I have to use the Irish voice on IOS for the same reasons but will 
 switch to Alex if he sounds anything like. I don't know anybody who likes 
 Daniel on any platform.
  
 Cheers
 Dave
  
  
 
 Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Jun 20 03:09PM -0400  
 
 I have a guess that alex will only be available to 5S users, which means that 
 those of us who have the 5c and under will be stuck with Samantha. I'm only 
 speculating this because OSX and the 5S are both 64 bit systems.
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available 
 now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June.
 Spots are limited, sign up here
 http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
  
  
  
  
 
 David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com Jun 20 08:11PM +0100  
 
 Was OS X a 64 bit system when Alex was written though?Saying that, for other 
 reasons, I suspect you could be right.
  
 Cheers
 Dave
  
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Jun 20 08:15PM +0100  
 
 I'm going to the Apple Store as soon as the sixth comes out! I will not be 
 stuck with the 5S especially if it has wireless charging!
  
  
 
 Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Jun 20 08:18PM +0100  
 
 Funny I had a dream one night that Alex will come to iOS. This may be a 
 reality soon.
  
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
  
 On 20/06/2014 18:42, Jessica Moss wrote:
  
 
 Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Jun 20 03:54PM -0400  
 
 I think so, but I could be wrong.
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available 
 now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June.
 Spots are limited, sign up here
 http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
  
  
  
  
 
  any updated podcast on garage band?
 Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com Jun 20 
 12:49PM -0700  
 
 Hello is thjere any updated podcasts on garage band?
 am mainly interested in creating music using samples, and also remixing 
 existing music with samples eg putting other samples on top of mp3s exta 
 drum tracks etc
 there any podcast that I can listen 

How to can't be downloaded songs from the Rhapsody app lying your iPhone 5s

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chenelle I have been on here in quite some time my 
question is after downloading the Rhapsody app onto my iPhone 5s how do I can't 
be the songs from which I downloaded from the out onto my iPhone itself thank 
you so much and have a great day

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deleting email on your i phone?.

[Chenelle Hancock]

hello all,

I am trying to delete  old mail  from my  gmail account  using my braille pen 
12.  how do I perform a select all  in order  to delete my old messages from my 
gmail account?. 
thank you! so much for your help in this matter. 
sincerely, chenele. 

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 On 29 Apr 2014, at 5:25 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's topic summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication. [1 Update]
 A scanner for finereader pro on the mac. [1 Update]
 Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop. [4 Updates]
 Where to purchase Amadeous Pro [1 Update]
 Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks [5 Updates]
 printer sharing [1 Update]
 Roboform for Mac [1 Update]
 Terminal: is it safe to use? [2 Updates]
 Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks [1 Update]
  A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication.
 Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com Apr 29 11:22PM +0200  
 
 Hi all.
  
 I really love working with the finereader pro for mac. There is one thing 
 that annoys me.
  
 I have been using the windows version of finereader for many years, a 
 function that I really like is the send to function, but this function is not 
 included in the mac version. I wonder if you could make a script that will 
 send the document to e.g. textedit but without having to export and save. If 
 anyone knows something I would be glad to know.
  
 Best regards Annie.
  
 
  A scanner for finereader pro on the mac.
 Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com Apr 29 11:17PM +0200  
 
 Hi Terje.
  
 I bought the canon canoscan 9000f. This is really a scanner that works. I 
 have never got a scanner to work as fast as this one.
  
 Thank you for your suggestion.
  
 Best regards Annie.
  
 
  Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop.
 Gabriele Battaglia iz4...@libero.it Apr 29 09:58PM +0200  
 
 Hello all.
 Is it possible to have these items on my desktop, as they were connected 
 directly to the iMac, instead being on the Airport Estreme?
 Thanks.
 Gabriel.
 —
 Namasté!
 Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
  
 
 Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com Apr 29 03:09PM -0500  
 
 Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I misunderstand 
 your question?
  
  
 
 Gabriele Battaglia gabriele.battag...@gmail.com Apr 29 10:25PM +0200  
 
 
  Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I 
  misunderstand your question?
 Hi Jim.
 If configured so, you may have all the external driver eventually connected 
 to Mavericks, on the desktop, as you usually have just the main one.
  
 That’s happens when drivers are connected via some port, like USB, or when 
 they are available in the same Local network.
  
 Unfortunately this seem not to be true for those drivers who are link via the 
 Airport Extreme.
  
 Gabriel
 —
 Namasté!
 Inviato dal mio iMac27. (Gmail)
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com Apr 29 03:11PM -0600  
 
 Hi,
  
 In the Finder Preferences (cmd-comma while in the Finder), you can check the 
 box to have Connected Servers show on your Desktop. When this item is 
 checked, there will be an icon representing the network drive displayed on 
 your Desktop just like when you have a drive connected directly via USB, 
 Firewire or Thunderbolt.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  Where to purchase Amadeous Pro
 Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org Apr 30 08:47AM +1200  
 
 Hi max, yes, the version from his website is less crippled in a few areas.
 I purchased via the App Store when I first got a Mac, and ran into a couple 
 of issues with more complex functions. The developer converted my purchase so 
 it would run with the version on his site. To be compliant with the App 
 Store's guidelines, an app has to conform to Apple's strict sandbox rules. 
 His version does not.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
  
  
 
  Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks
 Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Apr 29 02:56PM -0400  
 
 I know this has been discussed before. If there is an archive I can't find it.
 I have a Macbook with 4 gig memory and I hpdated it to Mavericks last night. 
 Things are very sluggish and busy. They are slow to respond and mail seems 
 the worst. I thought 4 gig could run Mavericks on a Macbook. Is this wrong? 
 Are there things I can do to get it to run better?
  
 Thanks.
  
 Kristeen
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com Apr 29 03:01PM -0400  
 
 Are you running all the latest updates? I found that 10.9.2 fixed those 
 problems for me. Also, Mail may take a while to sync everything and settle 
 down, so if it is the primary source of the trouble, see if it doesn't fix 
 itself in a couple days. To test this, quit Mail entirely and go about your 
 normal usage, then open Mail again and see if anything changes.
  
 --
 Have a great 

learning the russian braille code!. hello everyone!

[Chenelle Hancock]

I am currently  teaching myself how to speak russan.  I wanted to know is the a 
way to learn braille  russian code?.  Is there a website that I could go to 
find this information  outhat?.  
thank you! so much for your assistants  with this matter. 
sincerely,  chenelle 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Apr 2014, at 5:25 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's topic summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication. [1 Update]
 A scanner for finereader pro on the mac. [1 Update]
 Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop. [4 Updates]
 Where to purchase Amadeous Pro [1 Update]
 Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks [5 Updates]
 printer sharing [1 Update]
 Roboform for Mac [1 Update]
 Terminal: is it safe to use? [2 Updates]
 Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks [1 Update]
  A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication.
 Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com Apr 29 11:22PM +0200  
 
 Hi all.
  
 I really love working with the finereader pro for mac. There is one thing 
 that annoys me.
  
 I have been using the windows version of finereader for many years, a 
 function that I really like is the send to function, but this function is not 
 included in the mac version. I wonder if you could make a script that will 
 send the document to e.g. textedit but without having to export and save. If 
 anyone knows something I would be glad to know.
  
 Best regards Annie.
  
 
  A scanner for finereader pro on the mac.
 Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com Apr 29 11:17PM +0200  
 
 Hi Terje.
  
 I bought the canon canoscan 9000f. This is really a scanner that works. I 
 have never got a scanner to work as fast as this one.
  
 Thank you for your suggestion.
  
 Best regards Annie.
  
 
  Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop.
 Gabriele Battaglia iz4...@libero.it Apr 29 09:58PM +0200  
 
 Hello all.
 Is it possible to have these items on my desktop, as they were connected 
 directly to the iMac, instead being on the Airport Estreme?
 Thanks.
 Gabriel.
 —
 Namasté!
 Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
  
 
 Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com Apr 29 03:09PM -0500  
 
 Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I misunderstand 
 your question?
  
  
 
 Gabriele Battaglia gabriele.battag...@gmail.com Apr 29 10:25PM +0200  
 
 
  Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I 
  misunderstand your question?
 Hi Jim.
 If configured so, you may have all the external driver eventually connected 
 to Mavericks, on the desktop, as you usually have just the main one.
  
 That’s happens when drivers are connected via some port, like USB, or when 
 they are available in the same Local network.
  
 Unfortunately this seem not to be true for those drivers who are link via the 
 Airport Extreme.
  
 Gabriel
 —
 Namasté!
 Inviato dal mio iMac27. (Gmail)
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com Apr 29 03:11PM -0600  
 
 Hi,
  
 In the Finder Preferences (cmd-comma while in the Finder), you can check the 
 box to have Connected Servers show on your Desktop. When this item is 
 checked, there will be an icon representing the network drive displayed on 
 your Desktop just like when you have a drive connected directly via USB, 
 Firewire or Thunderbolt.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  Where to purchase Amadeous Pro
 Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org Apr 30 08:47AM +1200  
 
 Hi max, yes, the version from his website is less crippled in a few areas.
 I purchased via the App Store when I first got a Mac, and ran into a couple 
 of issues with more complex functions. The developer converted my purchase so 
 it would run with the version on his site. To be compliant with the App 
 Store's guidelines, an app has to conform to Apple's strict sandbox rules. 
 His version does not.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
  
  
 
  Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks
 Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Apr 29 02:56PM -0400  
 
 I know this has been discussed before. If there is an archive I can't find it.
 I have a Macbook with 4 gig memory and I hpdated it to Mavericks last night. 
 Things are very sluggish and busy. They are slow to respond and mail seems 
 the worst. I thought 4 gig could run Mavericks on a Macbook. Is this wrong? 
 Are there things I can do to get it to run better?
  
 Thanks.
  
 Kristeen
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com Apr 29 03:01PM -0400  
 
 Are you running all the latest updates? I found that 10.9.2 fixed those 
 problems for me. Also, Mail may take a while to sync everything and settle 
 down, so if it is the primary source of the trouble, see if it doesn't fix 
 itself in a couple days. To test this, quit Mail entirely and go about your 
 normal usage, then open Mail again and see if anything changes.
  
 --
 

Changing languages on iPad

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chenelle! I changed the language settings to ration I 
am my iPad mini last week because I was learning Russian and now I want to 
revert back to English? What should I do in order to change it back to English 
again clash thank you so much have a great day Sent from my iPhone

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   Today's topic summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 slightly ot: icloud based audio discription indiegogo project. [2 Updates]
 Calendar in Mavericks-creating an event that will recur once a month? [2 
 Updates]
 Pages improvement [4 Updates]
 Viewing Recognized Text in Fine Reader? [3 Updates]
 Status Menus Are Gone [2 Updates]
 Keynote Aglore! [1 Update]
 Topic: reading brf files on the mac [5 Updates]
 looking for accessible trivia and word games for mac [1 Update]
 Tips on Abbyy Fine Reader? [1 Update]
 Teamtalk was Re: Good Prospects for Accessibility in Office for Mac [4 
 Updates]
  slightly ot: icloud based audio discription indiegogo project.
 Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com Apr 17 10:05AM -0400  
 
 thanks!
 I hope this gets off the ground!
 I’d shell out for it myself.
 Cait
  
  
 
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com Apr 17 12:29PM -0400  
 
 Definitely. Sign me up. 
  
  
 
  Calendar in Mavericks-creating an event that will recur once a month?
 Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com Apr 17 10:07AM -0500  
 
 I too have the same question. I tried setting to the second saturday every 
 month. It ended up on doing the same date number, not the second Saturday.
  
 Also, on the Mac how do you delete dates? cmd delete did nothing and I can’t 
 find anything under the menubar.
  
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
  
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com Apr 17 10:24AM -0600  
 
 hi,
  
 You should be able to set events like that in within the Custom area of the 
 Repeat options. So, after activating the date/time link,
  
 • choose Custom from the Repeat Every pop-up.
 • Select Monthly.
 • Select the “On The” radio button.
 • Select the proper day, eg. Third and Tuesday.
 • close the window.
  
 Not sure why it wasn’t working that way for Daniel. Regarding the deleting of 
 an event, when in Month view, you can navigate to the event then go up to the 
 Edit menu and choose Delete. I believe that in some other views, you are able 
 to use the Delete key and/or some other commands.
  
 Later…
  
 • 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  Pages improvement
 Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk Apr 17 04:27PM +0200  
 
 Hello everyone,
  
 The latest update to Pages brought a big improvement. There is no longer any 
 need to interact with the Paragraph styles button to hear the name of the 
 style. This means that we can now set a hotspot on that button and consult it 
 from within the document. Also, we can find the short cut for a given style 
 by interacting with the styles table and the short cut is shown beside the 
 name.
  
 Cheers,
  
 Anne
  
 
 isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Apr 17 09:37AM -0500  
 
 How do you set up hotspots?
  
 
 Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk Apr 17 04:50PM +0200  
 
 Hello Isaac,
  
 To set a hotspot, go to the place you want to put the hotspot and press 
 VO-Shift-plus a number from 0 to 9. To jump to the hotspot, press VO-number. 
 To consult the hotspot, press VO-Cmd-number.
  
 So, in Pages, if you set a hotspot with the number 1, you can press VO-Cmd-1 
 anywhere within your text and hear the name of the paragraph style currently 
 active.
  
 You can also jump straight to the Paragraph styles button by pressing VO-1 in 
 this case.
  
 Cheers,
  
 Anne
  
  
  
 
 Jessica jldai...@gmail.com Apr 17 12:19PM -0400  
 
 When did pages get an update?
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  Viewing Recognized Text in Fine Reader?
 Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com Apr 17 10:01AM -0400  
 
 I use a compatible scanner, there are lots of them, and after scanning, FR 
 Pro recognizes the scanned pages and then opens a save dialog. I save the 
 pages using the default file name “untitled”, and then the document opens in 
 textedit where I can read the doc. I have the format set to RTF and that 
 triggers Textedit as the default app. I suppose if i set the format to .docx, 
 it would open in pages. 
  
 There is no viewing facility in FR Pro, but quickly saving it in a throw-away 
 file will open it in an app were you can view/edit the file.
 
  
 
 Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com Apr 17 07:43AM -0700  
 
 Hello,
  
 I have been following this thread out of interest regarding Fine Reader Pro. 
 I have not yet purchased it, but I believe from all of the current posts and 
 other discussions in the past that this app for the Mac is the most friendly 
 user with voiceover. Would like to suggest a solution for wanting to quickly 
 scan an envelope, which I do and then use another scan and read on the PC 
 side to OCR an 

IPhone/iPad question

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, I wanted to know can you read epode files on the iPhone using 
voice over? Thanks a lot sincerely Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

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   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Creating Recipes In Mac Gourmet Deluxe vs. iOS [1 Update]
 tip for using voice over on the web [1 Update]
 how to convert unprotected epubs/other ebook formats to txt? [1 Update]
 Questions re iOS [1 Update]
 another question re twitter and facebook [2 Updates]
 Continued Fusion difficulties [1 Update]
 facebook and Twitter and flash questions [2 Updates]
 one system dialogue displayed? [1 Update]
 Work-around for Annoying issue with sending messages to certain contacts 
 under iOS/7  [1 Update]
  Creating Recipes In Mac Gourmet Deluxe vs. iOS
 Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com Feb 02 12:43PM -0600  
 
 If you vo navigate to the clippings table and then vo navigate to the 
 specific recipe you want to clip and press enter it will open the editor for 
 you to select text. You might have to vo-right a couple of times to get to 
 the edit field.
 If you then go to the top where the name is and highlight the name, you can 
 press command-1 to enter the name, highlight the ingredients and command-5 to 
 enter the ingredients and do the sale for directions with command-6. Your 
 other options like categories and servings/yield will be in that edit session 
 as well.
 Jim
  
  
 
  tip for using voice over on the web
 Pamela Francis ppowell...@aol.com Feb 02 12:02PM -0600  
 
 Hello Mike,
 I'm curious in reference to your suggestion having the mouse follow the 
 voiceover cursor with reference to finding things on webpages. How does a 
 setting affect other actions within other documents that may be saved on your 
 local computer?
  
 Pam Francis
  
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
  
 Hey everyone, some of you may find this useful. There are some web sites that 
 will display certain extra links if the mouse is placed on the first item of 
 a list. For example, if a site says products, putting the mouse on it may 
 open a list of product categories. Really this is bad web design, the page 
 should not change just because the mouse sits on an item, but, if you change 
 the setting in voiceover so the mouse follows the voiceover cursor, you will 
 gain access to these items. I've made this the default setting and have found 
 links on several sites that were not there before.
  
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  how to convert unprotected epubs/other ebook formats to txt?
 Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com Feb 02 06:20PM +0100  
 
 Hi
 Gena.
  
 I wish there had been another solution. I can set calibre up, but I have no 
 sighted help to turn on the command line, and I am not good at working with 
 command line.
  
 I have found some programs that can do most of the things we want. But if I 
 could convert to html I could read in ILike2ReadPro.
  
 Best regards Annie.
  
 
  Questions re iOS
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Feb 02 09:19AM -0700  
 
 Hi,
  
 In testing more,the “Shared” button disappeared when I turned off WiFi on my 
 iPhone. When I turned WiFi back on, the “Shared” button would not re-appear 
 until I quit and restarted the Music app. It may be beneficial to go to the 
 App Switcher on your iDevice by pressing the Home button twice quickly, swipe 
 up on the Music app and double-tap to close it. Simply going out of the Music 
 app then re-opening it may not be enough as the app is not actually quit in 
 that case.  If you do use a Firewall, this article may be of use:
  
 http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2972
  
 If not, we’ll keep trying.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  another question re twitter and facebook
 Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com Feb 02 10:37AM -0500  
 
 Thanks much. Now may I ask what desktop mode is? Thanks.
  
  
  
 reggie and Allegra
  
 
 David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com Feb 02 04:09PM  
 
 Desktop mode shows you the main website, mobile mode the mobile website
  
  
 
  Continued Fusion difficulties
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Feb 02 11:06AM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
 I'm still unable to reliably change control of my keyboard from Mac to 
 Windows and back again. Ctrl-cmd never does anything, and ctrl-g gives me a 
 Mac error sound. I have no idea what I am doing to get focus to switch, but 
 whatever it is it is far from reliable. There has to be a better way!
  
 Also, there seems to be a 

Read: Logitech keyboard

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, it's Chanel! I wanted to know how much was the Logitech 
keyboard? I'm considering purchasing one. Thanks so much have a great day

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 25, 2014, at 4:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 logitech bluetooth keyboard that works with three devices? [4 Updates]
 About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook 
 with Mountain Lion and iTunes [1 Update]
 Logitech keyboard that pares to three devices [1 Update]
 got my New Macbook Pro yesterday [2 Updates]
 Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again [1 Update]
 how to expand folders [1 Update]
 how to check bluetooth wireless and battery status [1 Update]
 closing background apps [2 Updates]
 Popup Menus in Numbers [1 Update]
  logitech bluetooth keyboard that works with three devices?
 Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name Jan 25 03:30PM -0500  
 
 Just got this keyboard for Christmas:
  
 Logitech Solar K760 Bluetooth keyboard
  
 Jeff
  
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net Jan 25 02:44PM -0600  
 
 Can you pair that keyboard with all three devices at once, or just one at a 
 time?
  
  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
  
  
 
 Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name Jan 25 03:48PM -0500  
 
 You can pear it with all three…You select which device by selecting [f1], 
 [f2] or [f3]. David Woodbridge did a podcast on this keyboard. I think his 
 podcast is called Apple Accessibility or something like that.
  
  
 Jeff
  
  
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net Jan 25 02:54PM -0600  
 
 Must look this up. Thanks.
  
  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
  
  
 
  About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook 
 with Mountain Lion and iTunes
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com Jan 25 03:51PM -0500  
 
 Didn't work for me last night or this morning, after updating iTunes. I'll 
 try again.
 Christine
  
  
 
  Logitech keyboard that pares to three devices
 Graham g.r...@virginmedia.com Jan 25 08:41PM  
 
 Hi Justin, 
  
 
  
 The keyboard you want is the Logitech k811. 
  
 They are superb in my oppinion, one of the most handy devices I have. 
  
 
  
 Kind regards
  
 
  
 Graham
  
 
  got my New Macbook Pro yesterday
 Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com Jan 25 09:43AM -0700  
 
 Yeah the keystrokes are different but i am enjoying it. DÎÎ 
  
  
  
 
 BBS bbssh...@samobile.net Jan 25 02:28PM -0600  
 
 Hey Scott. Glad to hear that the Mac is going well for you. I remember when I 
 got the Mac I’m on almost 4 years ago. I was kinda confused with the whole 
 interacting thing with Voiceover, but that I learned that quick. Next thing I 
 knew I was downloading apps on here. I think the first 3 apps I downloaded on 
 here were Skype, Adium, and RS Games. I couldn’t figure out why RS wasn’t 
 working but I found out quickly that I had to put anything with the app 
 extension into the applications folder in order to work because it won’t run 
 from the dog which is a disk image. Now I’m that advanced that I have Windows 
 on this thing, (which I kinda hate doing but have no choice because 
 businesses use Windows and if I could find an app developer that would make 
 QuintinC’s Playroom available for the Mac for free since the owner of it is 
 too cheap to make it himself,) and Mavericks is now the third OS version 
 upgrade I installed myself. So yeah, it’s not too hard to master it. Good 
 luck with your learning experience.
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
  
  
 
  Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again
 BBS bbssh...@samobile.net Jan 25 02:12PM -0600  
 
 Hi guys. The only times I have issues with Voiceover having stuttery speech 
 in Mavericks is when starting up my Mac after shutting it down, which is 
 rare, and if using Fusion in the background Windows is doing something heavy 
 like an update or being stupid. Other than that, my Mac runs great. Apps 
 launch fast and it’s all good. As for Bryan’s issue with Voiceover skipping 
 when reading emails, have you tried not interacting with the text of the 
 message and letting VO read automatically? This is what I do and it never 
 skips. Oh and I’m using Karen for my Voiceover. Can’t stand Tom because he 
 sounds robotic. At least Karen has a lot of inflection in her voice.
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
  
  
 
  how to expand folders
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Jan 25 02:51PM -0500  
 
 Depends on the view. In Column View, use cmd-down to open a folder, and 
 cmd-up to close it. In List View, use right arrow to open it and left arrow 
 to close it (sometimes you'll need to hit it twice). I don't recommend the 
 other two 

braille display question in regards to unified english braille commands with i o s 7.

[chenelle hancock]

 of Apple products and am making all the little tweaks to make it 
 mine.
  
  
 Take Care
  
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
  
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
  
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
  
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
  
  
  
  
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Jan 25 06:38PM -0500  
 
 Scott, I have no idea how much you know about Mac resources, so sorry if this 
 is redundant. I run a Twitter account called @VOTips, and the timeline of 
 that account has some really useful tips and tricks for iOS and OS10 from a 
 Voiceover perspective. Then you have www.applevis.com, with app reviews, 
 podcasts, forums, blogs, and guides/tutorials on all things Apple.
  
 As to Bootcamp, if you're really comfortable in the Mac, I wouldn't. Both 
 Bootcamp and a virtual machine application have their pros and cons, but I 
 made a 200gb Bootcamp partition when I first got my Mac. Now I wish I hadn't, 
 and am about to remove it in favor of a virtual machine. I only did Bootcamp 
 because I was new to the Mac and needed a computer I knew how to use. Since 
 you are already fine with your Mac, you might consider skipping Bootcamp and 
 going straight to a VM. Again, I know both methods are good for different 
 situations, and I encourage you to research them thoroughly before making the 
 choice, but if your Mac can handle it, a VM might be a better solution than 
 taking up a bunch of hard drive space with Bootcamp.
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 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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 Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com Jan 25 06:43PM -0500  
 
 Hi all. I have a MacBook air, and am relatively new to it. Can you tell me 
 how I can switch between multiple mail accounts?
 Also, what is Adium? 
  
 Hope Paulos
  
  
 
 Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com Jan 25 05:03PM -0700  
 
 Very true. I didn’t think about that.
  
 
  logitech bluetooth keyboard that works with three devices?
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Jan 25 05:30PM -0500  
 
 Ray, yes the Logictech 7600 is very worth the money especially if you want to 
 constantly toggle between multiple devices with the same keyboard, it’s 
 fantastic.
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net Jan 25 04:40PM -0600  
 
 Ah, I see. How does that compare to the K811?
  
  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
  
  
 
  Read: Logitech keyboard
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Jan 25 05:37PM -0500  
 
 Hello everyone, it's Chanel! I wanted to know how much was the Logitech 
 keyboard? I'm considering purchasing one. Thanks so much have a great day
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  Home Phone with bluetooth that speaks to you
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Jan 25 05:25PM -0500  
 
 Hey all,
  
 Sorry for the off topic post, but this is the only place I thought I might be 
 able to get an answer. I need to get a new home, and just discovered that a 
 lot of home phones can now also connect to your iPhone via bluetooth. I also 
 want the talking caller ID announce feature that my old home phone currently 
 has, and finally figured I would email the list to see if anyone has a 
 corded/cordless home phone system where you might be able to access all the 
 menus with some kind of VoiceOver similar to the iPhone, not even sure if 
 something like this with all the features I want is even made. I found a 
 corded/cordless phone system with bluetooth and talking caller ID and am 
 posting the link here, but doubt I will be able to access all of the phones 
 features, and just wanted to see if anyone knew of such a thing, if so please 
 share the brand and model with us. Thanks, 
 http://www.amazon.com/D3588-2-Expandable-Cordless-Answering-Bluetooth/dp/B007B5THNS
  
 
  looking for podcast on the Logitech K811 keyboard
 Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net Jan 25 04:23PM -0600  
 
 Subject line says it all. Where can I find it?
  
  
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
  
 
  Some VoiceOver Success
 April Brown aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com Jan 25 01:28PM -0800  
 
 I got stuck in Pages and couldn't figure out how to get to where I wanted. 
 I eventually got there.
  
 Next tried Email, and was able to read a couple right quick. Didn't try to 
 save any. That's for another day.
  
 Opened Calendar. Was able to have it read what I had already inputted for 
 today. Was able to open a specific item, though didn't try to change

Voiceover voice is question for iPhone 5s

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I want to know how can you download voices like Karen Emily 
Alice etc. on to your iPhone five and see using voice over? Thank you so much I 
really appreciate it sincerely, Chenelle

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   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover [3 
 Updates]
 antivirus for mac, is it useful? [5 Updates]
 reminders [1 Update]
 Using a sig line in mail. [1 Update]
 Dish Network App? [3 Updates]
 toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd [2 Updates]
 installing Bootcamp [1 Update]
 Problems with iTunes library [1 Update]
 Changing Default Spreadhseet App On My Air when Opening A Excel Workbook [1 
 Update]
 Not go to sleep [1 Update]
 Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible [4 Updates]
 Apple submenu message, gets quite annoying... [1 Update]
 VO always focusing on the toolbar? [1 Update]
  Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover
 Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com Dec 27 02:22PM -0800  
 
 hi, for me it is the compact voices too, why? i can speed it up
 faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
 imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be able too understand
 her? properly not smiles.
 If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
 want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
 that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
 norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
 merry xmas and a happy new year all :)
  
  
  
 
 Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com Dec 27 09:09PM -0500  
 
 Sorry, another newby question! Are there any other voices on the Mini besides 
 Alex, Vicky, Victoria, Fre? Alex sounds high quality, but the rest sound 
 compact. Am I missing some voices? Can I make the others besides Alex high 
 quality as on iPhone?
  
  
 reggie and Allegra
  
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 hi, for me it is the compact voices too, why? i can speed it up
 faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
 imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be able too understand
 her? properly not smiles.
 If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
 want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
 that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
 norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
 merry xmas and a happy new year all :)
  
  
  
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 Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Dec 27 09:52PM -0500  
 
 Hi.
 Yes, you ca download extra high quality voices.
 Go to voiceover utility with CTRL Option F8. Go to the speech tab with 
 Command 3.
 Now go to the voices tab, and move to where it says, voice name, default 
 voice. Press spacebar, and choose customize.
 Now you will be presented with a able where you can select the voices you 
 would like. Note that these voices are rather large, about 200 or 300 megs 
 each.
 Hth.
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
  
  
 
  antivirus for mac, is it useful?
 eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com Dec 27 04:38PM -0700  
 
 virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
 voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
  
 -eric
  
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:
  
  
 
 Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com Dec 27 08:49PM -0500  
 
 Does the Mac require a virus program? If so, can someone tell me what is good?
  
  
 reggie and Allegra
  
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
 voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
  
 -eric
  
  
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 It doesn't require it as much as windows, however, I would strongly recommend 
 its use. 

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 On Dec 16, 2013, at 4:23 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 OS10.9.1 is here! [1 Update]
 i text express question [4 Updates]
 Terminal: Setting up Incoming IMap in Alpine? [2 Updates]
 Saving attachments in Lion [1 Update]
 Disregard ReadKit Question [1 Update]
 ReadKit Question [1 Update]
  OS10.9.1 is here!
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Dec 16 04:14PM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
 I just saw a tweet that said OS10.9.1 is finally here. I'm about to update... 
 Here's hoping for fixes to Mail and Voiceover, plus a fix for slow app 
 launches and wake-up times. Below is the link to the story, but it is sparse 
 on details for now.
 http://9to5mac.com/2013/12/16/apple-releases-os-x-10-9-1-for-mac/
  
  
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
  i text express question
 Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com Dec 16 10:25AM -0500  
 
 What about vo space or vo shift space?
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com Dec 16 03:27PM  
 
 Dear Caitlyn,
  
 I’ve just played with the bookmark feature in iText, and I think I have had a 
 positive result. I’ve created a bookmark by hitting command+shift+m. You will 
 be in a dialogue where on the very left you have a table of all the bookmarks 
 you may have created and when you move right, you will find a text field into 
 which some text is automatically entered, i.e. a few words of the line at 
 which your cursor is located. You can change this text and write whatever 
 series of words you wish here, and move to the right to add the bookmark or 
 cancel or delete a bookmark, I assume one of the bookmarks which may already 
 be in your table. 
  
 In order to jump to any of your bookmarks, I think you have to make them 
 visible first. The shortcut key combination command+option+m on my macbook 
 air, places the bookmarks table next to the toolbar, just to the right of the 
 toolbar. But it is not easy to find them. Now in order to find it, I had to 
 stop interacting with my text by pressing vo+shift+up arrow. Then I jumped to 
 the toolbar on the left and then vo+right arrow once at which point I heard 
 voiceover say “drawer area”. I interacted with the drawer area and I found 
 the table of bookmarks there and the bookmark button which you don’t actually 
 need because it only activates the bookmark menu which you can get to with 
 command+shift+m. 
  
 Then I interacted with the table of bookmarks, placed my vo cursor on the 
 bookmark I wanted, then routed mouse cursor to the voiceover cursor with 
 vo+command+f5, double-checked with vo+f5 command to make sure the mouse 
 cursor was on the bookmark and then I performed the mouse click with 
 vo+shift+space bar. 
  
 Then I stopped interacting with the table and the drawer area and moved to 
 the right until I heard scroll area. This is the area where your text 
 document is. Interact with it, and you should be where your bookmark was 
 created. It worked for me. I must thank you for inspiring me to explore this 
 feature. Otherwise I’d never had known that this can be accomplished. 
  
 Hope it will work for you too, and hope that my explanation has not confused 
 you.
  
 Andrew
  
 
 Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com Dec 16 01:02PM -0500  
 
 andrew!
  
 Oh, *thank you* so much!
  
 your explaination was perfectly clear and it helps a bunch! I just didn’t 
 have it in me this morning to fiddle with things to the degree that you did, 
 I was just trying to get my reading done in my text book and do the book mark 
 thing.
  
 I am saving your email to refer to later.
  
 The i text express to me seems very useful overall and I am useing it now 
 instead of text edit or pages for reading my text books on the mac.
 Cait
  
  
 
 Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com Dec 16 01:03PM -0500  
 
 Yep, tried both of those.
 Andrew figured it out, so check out his message-wonderful stuff for those of 
 us who use this app!
 Cait
  
  
 
  Terminal: Setting up Incoming IMap in Alpine?
 - dandun...@gmail.com Dec 16 11:54AM -0500  
 
 Here is the in coming path I use for gmail, it goes on this line:
  
 Inbox Path =
  
 Followed by:
  
 {imap.gmail.com:993/user=user_n...@gmail.com
  
 Subbing your user name in the above of course.
  
 For both SMTP Server and in comming I add this to the very end of the 
 line:
  
 /ssl/novalidate-cert
  
 In some installations the ssl secure servercertificate is not recognized 
 correctly and this solves the problem.
  
 For other mail services, do a google using:
  
 os10 name-of-service imap
  
 In general in alpine to add multiple items such as email addresses etc., 
 they are seperated by a comma, I presume this the case for adding other 
 imap email sources too.
  
 
 Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com Dec 16 09:34AM -0800  
 
 Thank you very much. I got it. :)
  
 Teresa
  
 Sent using 

Creating a ring tone using your own music?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, I have a friend that just purchased an iPhone 5c! However, she 
doesn't know how to create a ring tone using her own music from her library? 
What are the steps to create your own ring tone? Thank you so much have a great 
day

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 14, 2013, at 11:20 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Questions About Using The Braille Edge With Files Produced On The Mac [5 
 Updates]
 emogees break Voiceover [1 Update]
 skype on the mac [3 Updates]
 great news regarding the Nest thermostat [1 Update]
 Turning off Conversations in Mavericks Mail [3 Updates]
 broadcasting on the mac [3 Updates]
 Mail Filters [3 Updates]
 Applications Folder / Uninstalling Aps on mavericks [1 Update]
 VoiceOver and Numbers: Negative Numbers [2 Updates]
 Command Line: How to Upgrade Macports? [3 Updates]
  Questions About Using The Braille Edge With Files Produced On The Mac
 Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com Dec 14 09:16PM +1300  
 
 You can just select files by pressing space on them. Then d chord will delete 
 all selected files.
 I too have tried deleting that top folder to my cost. you just have to ignore 
 the ghost files and that funny folder. It’s something the Mac puts there for 
 its own reasons I don’t understand.
 Can’t help you with the pairing issue as I’ve had no trouble pairing my 
 Braille Edge with my iPhone. Sorry…
  
  
 Lisette
  
  
 
 Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com Dec 14 05:24AM -0600  
 
 Hi there again 
 I didn't using the spacebar to select files and deleting them all at once. 
 You learn something new everyday, never mind I've had this display for over a 
 year now. I guess that means you can delete those ghost files. 
  
 I do have some information, however, about pairing problems with the Braille 
 Edge 40. This happened to me, and I have no idea why. I went to the office 
 HIMS office and worked on this with Mike. I guess we spent about two hours on 
 this, and then we ended up calling that wonderful 877 number. 
  
 My Braille Edgge 40 liked every device, except my 5 s iPhone, so there is 
 probably not something wrong with your Braille Edge, at least mine didn't end 
 up needing repair for the same problem you are having. 
  
 You won't like to hear this, but I had to erase all my settings on the 
 iPhone. I'm talking about restoring it, so don't do that unless you find you 
 have to. You might go into settings and write down all the ones you can find 
 that you changed from the defaults. Oh, yes, make sure you have written 
 somewhere your Internet passwords. Then set your settings back to factory. 
 You don't have to erase all your data on your iPhone, just your settings. If 
 you're concerned about doing that and losing all your stuff, you might want 
 to call Apple Accessibility at 877-204-3930. If your equipment is too old, 
 like you've had your iPhone for too long, for instance, and Apple charges you 
 the $20, it will be worth it. It costed me a lot more than that to find out 
 what was wrong with my Braille Edge. I made a trip to Austin. I did visit a 
 friend, but I had to pay cab fare etc. to go to the HIMS office. 
  
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
  
  
 
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com Dec 14 07:59AM -0600  
 
 Wow, Gigi, that's just crazy! I can't imagine why that happened, my 
 BrailleEdge paired with my 5S right away with no problems at all.
 Cheers,
 Donna
  
 
 Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com Dec 14 09:10AM -0700  
 
 Hi Lisette,
  
 Thanks so much for your help! I should have remembered that command because 
 it’s just like on the Braille Sense Plus I used to have. The odd thing is 
 that I now have 3 of those funny folders at the top of my list, but I guess I 
 dare not delete any of them since I don’t want to take a chance! :) At least 
 I can get rid of all the other ghost files though!
  
 Desi
  
  
  
  
 
 Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com Dec 14 09:18AM -0700  
 
 Hi Gigi,
  
 That sounds like a nightmare for sure! I think I’ll wait awhile to do a reset 
 of my phone! I would, of course, love to be able to pair it with my Braille 
 Edge, but it isn’t the highest priority for me, or really even why I got the 
 Braille Edge. I do still have AppleCare on my phone, so could call for help 
 if and when I decide to do it! Thanks again so much for your help!
  
 Desi
  
  
  
  
 
  emogees break Voiceover
 John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com Dec 14 08:59AM -0700  
 
 Hey guys:
  
 Every time I come across an emogee item, unless it's at the end of a 
 message/tweet etc, voiceover seems to just pass right over the item in 
 question. By item in question, I mean the entire message/tweet etc.
  
 Is there a way to fix this issue? I'm running Mavericks on a brand new 13 
 inch MacBook Air.
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 -John
  
 
  skype on the mac
 Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Dec 14 03:19PM +1100  
 
 Hi. I had the problem a couple of times 

MacBook Pro 2010 with Mavericks for sale

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I have a refurbished MacBook Pro for sale with Mavericks OS 74 
for sale for $1000 if anybody would like to buy you can give me a email off list

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Photos in iTunes? [1 Update]
 What do all of you guys think of this? [1 Update]
 Apex + Iphone 4S [3 Updates]
 which macbook is this? [4 Updates]
 Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales? [3 Updates]
 audio hijack pro success. [5 Updates]
 adding links to keynote presentations. [1 Update]
 ibooks and short cuts? [2 Updates]
 Winamp going away [1 Update]
 Safari default home page has changed. [1 Update]
 drag and drop application [1 Update]
 apps for facebook and twitter [2 Updates]
  Photos in iTunes?
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Nov 21 01:37PM -0700  
 
 Hi,
  
 I’m confused as to why you’re using iTunes to deal with photos. iTunes can be 
 used to sync photos to your iDevices but I believe that you should set up the 
 albums or events you wish synced from within iPhoto first then simply sync 
 the specific items.
  
 Not sure if that was the direction you were going, but hopefully it helps 
 some.
  
 Later…
 initially set up the albums 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  What do all of you guys think of this?
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Nov 21 01:26PM -0700  
 
 Hi,
  
 I use Cloud services for just about everything. Google Apps is a Cloud 
 service, DropBox is a Cloud service and Apple’s iCloud is a Cloud service. 
 Even Carbonite is a Cloud backup service. In my opinion, these are safe and 
 secure options. Sure there are likely ways of hacking into some of this 
 stuff, but then again, just about everything on the Net has the possibility 
 of being intercepted in some manner or another, even when you’re simply 
 surfing. or sending eMails.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  Apex + Iphone 4S
 Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com Nov 21 11:18AM -0500  
 
 Dear List,
  
 I’ve recently acquired an Apex and wanted to pair it with my iPhone 4S 
 running iOS 6.0.1. I’ve tried to pair the phone with the apex through the 
 general/accessibility/braille menu on the phone. Every time I try to pair it, 
 I get a message that says “iPhone could not load driver for Apex”. For kicks 
 and giggles, I tried pairing the two through the Apex’s bluetooth menu and 
 after entering an authentication code on the apex, my phone prompted me to do 
 the same and both devices were paired. I did so under the hands free menu on 
 the Apex. It says that the device is paired and active. I know that I can’t 
 use the braille display like this and to do so I’ll need to start the pairing 
 from the phone. Any pointers on this? Where do I get the driver it needs?
  
 Thanks a million!
  
 Best,
  
 Ibraheem
  
 
 Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com Nov 21 12:52PM -0500  
 
 Dear List,
  
 Figured it out. Disregard this question. Thanks!
  
 Peace,
  
 Ibraheem
  
  
 
 Caitlyn furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com Nov 21 03:49PM -0500  
 
 Hi,
 Have you checked on the humanware site?
 I don’t have an apex myself, I use another note taker, but this is all I can 
 think of..
 Cait
  
  
 
  which macbook is this?
 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Nov 21 11:56AM -0500  
 
 Hi folks,
 discussing a refurbished macbook with the apple store. it is the 13 inch 
 one and still has my mandatory for me superdrive, duo core. since 
 macbooks are identifiable by nifty names, colors whatever, I am wondering 
 which one belongs to this unit?
 If no one knows I can just ask the sales person working on it with me.
 thanks,
 Karen
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Nov 21 01:07PM -0500  
 
 It is probably a non-Retina Macbook Pro, from 2011 or 2012.
  To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
  Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
  For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
  
  
  
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 Chris H christopher...@gmail.com Nov 21 07:14PM  
 
 Think I have one of these. It's a nonretina Macbook Pro and is a 
 Mid-2012 model.
  
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
  
 On 21/11/2013 16:56, Karen Lewellen wrote:
  
 
 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Nov 21 03:30PM -0500  
 
 Hi there,
 thanks much. I am not looking at the ghz number, but I was pleased to hear 
 from apple there are still several options like this.
 Thanks again,
 Karen
  
 On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Chris H wrote:
  
  
 
  Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales?
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Nov 21 12:32AM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
 I'm about to purchase VMWare Fusion, finally! My question is, with the 
 holiday sales about a week away, should I wait? I may need to demo some 
 things to a client pretty soon, so I'd like to get this done now, but 

How do you create a work ring tone on your iPhone 5c?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I have a friend that got sent a ring tone via her Instant 
Messenger. However, she doesn't know how to copy and paste the ring tone so she 
can use it as her main ring tone? How do you create a ring tone that's been 
sent to you as your main ring tone on your iPhone 5c?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Photos in iTunes? [1 Update]
 What do all of you guys think of this? [1 Update]
 Apex + Iphone 4S [3 Updates]
 which macbook is this? [4 Updates]
 Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales? [3 Updates]
 audio hijack pro success. [5 Updates]
 adding links to keynote presentations. [1 Update]
 ibooks and short cuts? [2 Updates]
 Winamp going away [1 Update]
 Safari default home page has changed. [1 Update]
 drag and drop application [1 Update]
 apps for facebook and twitter [2 Updates]
  Photos in iTunes?
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Nov 21 01:37PM -0700  
 
 Hi,
  
 I’m confused as to why you’re using iTunes to deal with photos. iTunes can be 
 used to sync photos to your iDevices but I believe that you should set up the 
 albums or events you wish synced from within iPhoto first then simply sync 
 the specific items.
  
 Not sure if that was the direction you were going, but hopefully it helps 
 some.
  
 Later…
 initially set up the albums 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  What do all of you guys think of this?
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Nov 21 01:26PM -0700  
 
 Hi,
  
 I use Cloud services for just about everything. Google Apps is a Cloud 
 service, DropBox is a Cloud service and Apple’s iCloud is a Cloud service. 
 Even Carbonite is a Cloud backup service. In my opinion, these are safe and 
 secure options. Sure there are likely ways of hacking into some of this 
 stuff, but then again, just about everything on the Net has the possibility 
 of being intercepted in some manner or another, even when you’re simply 
 surfing. or sending eMails.
  
 Later…
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
  Apex + Iphone 4S
 Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com Nov 21 11:18AM -0500  
 
 Dear List,
  
 I’ve recently acquired an Apex and wanted to pair it with my iPhone 4S 
 running iOS 6.0.1. I’ve tried to pair the phone with the apex through the 
 general/accessibility/braille menu on the phone. Every time I try to pair it, 
 I get a message that says “iPhone could not load driver for Apex”. For kicks 
 and giggles, I tried pairing the two through the Apex’s bluetooth menu and 
 after entering an authentication code on the apex, my phone prompted me to do 
 the same and both devices were paired. I did so under the hands free menu on 
 the Apex. It says that the device is paired and active. I know that I can’t 
 use the braille display like this and to do so I’ll need to start the pairing 
 from the phone. Any pointers on this? Where do I get the driver it needs?
  
 Thanks a million!
  
 Best,
  
 Ibraheem
  
 
 Ibraheem Fakir ibayri...@gmail.com Nov 21 12:52PM -0500  
 
 Dear List,
  
 Figured it out. Disregard this question. Thanks!
  
 Peace,
  
 Ibraheem
  
  
 
 Caitlyn furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com Nov 21 03:49PM -0500  
 
 Hi,
 Have you checked on the humanware site?
 I don’t have an apex myself, I use another note taker, but this is all I can 
 think of..
 Cait
  
  
 
  which macbook is this?
 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Nov 21 11:56AM -0500  
 
 Hi folks,
 discussing a refurbished macbook with the apple store. it is the 13 inch 
 one and still has my mandatory for me superdrive, duo core. since 
 macbooks are identifiable by nifty names, colors whatever, I am wondering 
 which one belongs to this unit?
 If no one knows I can just ask the sales person working on it with me.
 thanks,
 Karen
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Nov 21 01:07PM -0500  
 
 It is probably a non-Retina Macbook Pro, from 2011 or 2012.
  To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
  Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
  For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
  
  
  
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 Chris H christopher...@gmail.com Nov 21 07:14PM  
 
 Think I have one of these. It's a nonretina Macbook Pro and is a 
 Mid-2012 model.
  
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
  
 On 21/11/2013 16:56, Karen Lewellen wrote:
  
 
 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Nov 21 03:30PM -0500  
 
 Hi there,
 thanks much. I am not looking at the ghz number, but I was pleased to hear 
 from apple there are still several options like this.
 Thanks again,
 Karen
  
 On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Chris H wrote:
  
  
 
  Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales?
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Nov 21 12:32AM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
 I'm about to purchase VMWare Fusion, finally! My question is, with the 
 holiday sales 

How do you log out of iTunes?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

I wanted to know how do you log someone else out of iTunes that used your phone 
without your permission! Every time I try to update my apps from the app store 
this person iTunes name comes up thanks I appreciate this is Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:16 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Importing CD question [7 Updates]
 Problem from Re-Labeling an App [1 Update]
 apple, flash, and vo, was etc. [1 Update]
 Mailing List Conventions: Plain Text Versus Rich text? [4 Updates]
 Audio Boo for Mac? [2 Updates]
 yet more regarding youtube [3 Updates]
 Anyone Upgrade to a 5S on ATT [2 Updates]
 adding links to mail signatures [1 Update]
  Importing CD question
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Oct 19 08:04PM +0100  
 
 Hello everyone.
  
 I have just imported a CD using iTunes. However, the CD importing didn't 
 complete very well. So I am wondering, if I can port the CD again, would it 
 replace the other CD which was imported? Thank you very much.
  
 Kawal.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 
 John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com Oct 19 03:20PM -0400  
 
 In theory, it should, but I have not imported a CD a second time. One would 
 think that if you choose the same info with the import that it will overwrite 
 the original, but I stand corrected if I am wrong about this.
  
  
 Take Care
  
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
  
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
  
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
  
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
  
  
  
  
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Oct 19 08:27PM +0100  
 
 If it does not work, how can I remove the original CD? Very in mind that it 
 is an album of its own. Thank you very much.
  
 I am away from home just now, and have no access to my iMac.
  
 Kawal. Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com Oct 19 03:36PM -0400  
 
 You would probably have to delete it from your iTunes library through iTunes 
 itself. Do a search for the album and delete the tracks. If you do it through 
 Finder, that leaves dead links in iTunes. If you have the Apple script to 
 remove dead links, then that’s fine, but I always recommend that you remove 
 iTunes material via iTunes.
  
  
 Take Care
  
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
  
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
  
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
  
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
  
  
  
  
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Oct 19 08:45PM +0100  
 
 Is there a way to slept the whole album in a menu item, and then delete the 
 album once the album is selected in the menu item? Thank you very much.
  
 Kawal.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com Oct 19 03:54PM -0400  
 
 You would have to highlight all of the tracks at once to do this. If you do 
 your search precisely, this should not be difficult to do. I have done this 
 for fixing incorrect details for tracks on the same album or for tracks 
 imported in from an audio CD.
  
  
 Take Care
  
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
  
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
  
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
  
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
  
  
  
  
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Oct 19 08:58PM +0100  
 
 I have done this too John.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  Problem from Re-Labeling an App
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Oct 19 01:10PM -0400  
 
 Hey all,
  
 I am curious if this has happened to anyone else as I have now experienced it 
 on an iPhone 4S and 5S both running IOS 7. This problem also occurred in 
 IOS6. When I use the two finger tap to rename an app, for example an app was 
 just called football, and I wanted it called CBS Football, which I typed than 
 hit save and the app name changes to ESPN football and the app is a CBS app, 
 and not ESPN. I have deleted the app and reinstalled it from the app store 
 and it still comes up as ESPN football. So strange as the app has nothing to 
 do with ESPN. I have had this happen elsewhere as I once renamed a yahoo app 
 to yahoo baseball and now my baseball playlist in downcast insists on calling 
 itself yahoo baseball and even deleting the playlist in downcast and creating 
 a new called baseball changes its name to yahoo baseball. So strange and no 
 clue how this is happening. Would love any advice on how to fix this. Thanks
  
 
  apple, flash, and vo, was etc.
 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Oct 19 12:11PM -0400  
 
 Hi Folks,
 I am 

facebook question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

 really like to hear these. Has 
 anyone else been having this issue?
  
 
 Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com Sep 28 02:57PM +1200  
 
 I understand the blindcooltech site is no longer being maintained. 
  
 Lisette
  
  
 
  Text documents on Mac
 Laura ann Grymes techca...@gmail.com Sep 27 07:26PM -0500  
 
 Docuscan plus works on the mac its by serotek and can work with a scanner.
 Laura Ann
  
  
 
  Reading Text Documents
 Laura ann Grymes techca...@gmail.com Sep 27 07:23PM -0500  
 
 I totally agree.
  
 The professor needs to make it accessible as they assign it not make you jump 
 through extra hoops to read what your assigned.
 Laura Ann
  
  
 
  Google question
 chenelle hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Sep 27 03:07PM -0700  
 
 Sent from my iPad
  
  
 
  Taking Apps out of the App Switcher question for my sighted husband
 Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com Sep 27 02:49PM -0700  
 
 Hi Alex,
  
 Thanks so much! This really helps us out a lot, and I knew someone here would 
 know!
  
 Desi
  
  
  
  
 
  PORTABLE CHARGERS
 Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com Sep 27 05:44PM -0400  
 
 Not sure if you've ever used one of these, but what's the difference between 
 the one you mentioned and the heavy-duty version of the newTrent version?
 I think that's the version I have, but not 100% sure, sense it was given to 
 me as a Christmas gift and I've never seen either of them, but it's a decent 
 size, just slightly smaller than a passport drive, and has a really long 
 battery life, but unfortunately I'm not sure of the exact make and model of 
 it so can't find the specs on it to compare them.
 I did a search for it and like the fact that it has the fold-out prongs, 
 conpared to the New Trent model, which has a wall charger that you constantly 
 have to keep up with, and unlike the one posted here, doesn't have the voice 
 notifications, so just have to guess if the unit itself is on or off 
 according to the alert sounds your phone makes, and same with whether or not 
 the thing is fully charged, which can be equally frustrating, considering the 
 fact that I have devices that don't make noise when they're first plugged 
 in/unplugged.
 On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:08 AM, wayne17a wrote:
  
  
 
  Looking for a voiceover friendly soundboard
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Sep 27 05:25PM -0400  
 
 Dunno if it's accessible but SoundBoard sounds like what you want:
  
 http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/soundboard-mac/
  
 CB
  
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Sent from my iPad

 Hello everyone at information hi my friend has a tablet that she just barked 
 and she wants to know can you download Bard Mobile using Google? Thank you so 
 much On 27 Sep 2013, at 2:13 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Apple 2E Emulator: my impressions [1 Update]
 airport extreme hook up question [2 Updates]
 PORTABLE CHARGERS [2 Updates]
 gmail help? [1 Update]
 Battery Life on IOS 7 [1 Update]
  Apple 2E Emulator: my impressions
 Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com Sep 27 01:59PM -0700  
 
 I really am liking it. I briefly learned the apple 2e in college, then was 
 forced to switch to IBM, which wasn't accessible at the time. I especially 
 recognize the beep as the disk boots up. Very nice job, Darcy et al.
  
 I'm paging through the Echo tutorial at the moment. I tried playing 
 Blackjack, but lost. :) This is going to be very amusing, I'm sure. Oh, the 
 Echo tutorial mentioned versaBraille tape. That definitely jolted me into the 
 past. :)
  
 Teresa
  
 
  airport extreme hook up question
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Sep 27 04:05PM -0400  
 
 Years ago (1998?) I had been renting a wifi router box from my cable 
 provider for a while and then decided to keep the money to myself and 
 buy my own unit. I purposly purchased two separate boxes - the cable 
 modem and the wifi/router. Over the years I've upgraded my wifi a couple 
 times as the world moved through the alphabet of standards and speeds. 
 Most recently I swapped out my old Netgear 802.11G box for an Airport 
 extreme after an unpleasant attempt to use a D-Link DIR-628 802.11N. 
 Just last week my cable mode died after about 9 years of service so I 
 was able to replace that with a newer faster Motorola SurfBoard DOCSIS 
 3.0 modem. In other words, this might be a good time to replace the 
 all-in-one with separate boxes for long term sanity.
  
 As a side note, my first owned modem met an early demise after my (then) 
 girlfriend and I returned from a weekend trip to discover a colony of 
 ants had moved into it. There were ants everywhere moving eggs and such 
 into their new warm comfy wifi hotel. We only noticed because the wifi 
 wasn't working. The whole thing went into a trash bag.
  
 CB
  
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 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Sep 27 09:54PM +0100  
 
 My word, Ants in a Wifi router. What next!
  
 
  PORTABLE CHARGERS
 wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com Sep 27 04:31PM -0400  
 
 Hello Kawal thanks I will read it later the quick look I had
 makes it sound quite good thanks in advance 
  
 
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: PORTABLE CHARGERS
  
 
  
 I do have this charger and have sent you a link. I hope it works.
  
 
  
 Kawal.
  
  
 On 27 Sep 2013, at 04:06 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Hello Kawal do you have this charger and if yes could you
 tell me more or have you the direct link for it thanks in advance
  
 
  
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:37 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: PORTABLE CHARGERS
  
 
  
 How about mycharge Peak power bank from Amazon.com this charger talks and
 tells you what percentage it is, whether the battery is full or not, and
 switches off straight away when you pull out the device.
  
 
  
 Kawal. 
  
  
 On 27 Sep 2013, at 03:20 AM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Hello ,list can somebody please give me some advice on a good portable
 charger, for my devices such as a victor stream,a iphone ,and a ipad thanks
 in advance 
  
 Wayne c
  
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iOS seven update

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi Everyone!

 I just got finished updating my I pad mini  and now i am waiting for my I 
phone 4.s. to finish installing the I.O.S. 7 update. Have anyone had any 
difficulties with the installation of the software? It took over an hour and a 
half for me to update my I pad mini. I did not know if anyone was having the 
same difficulties as i was having with the installation process. 
thanks.
sincerely, chenelle

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 7 Topics

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Hello everyone!

Sent from my iPhone

On 10/09/2013, at 4:41 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Apple Keynote [7 Updates]
 Thanks Tommy. I caught Leo Laport's coverage. [1 Update]
 transferring app from lion to ml [3 Updates]
 Does anyone have a guide on how to install Ubuntu on the Mac? [5 Updates]
 How to create a password-protected (encrypted) disk image [1 Update]
 I will go stark raving mad if VO Doesn't Stop with the (enter application 
 name here) busy garbage [7 Updates]
 setting up MacBook Pro with voiceover [1 Update]
  Apple Keynote
 Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net Sep 10 09:20AM -0500  
 
 Hello everyone. I've been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I don't see a
 link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
 How can I be sure to access this address live?
  
 
  
 Thanks so much.
  
 
  
 Paul
  
 
 Tommy Craig tecrai...@gmail.com Sep 10 10:06AM -0500  
 
 Hi Paul, 
 
 I don't think it is beening streamed. Usually they have bloggers that post
 during the keynote and then Apple puts the video up a couple hours later. If
 you won't to check out the blog, you might try the mac observer website. 
 
 Tommy
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
 Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:20 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Apple Keynote
  
  
  
 Hello everyone. I've been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I don't see a
 link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
 How can I be sure to access this address live?
  
 
  
 Thanks so much.
  
 
  
 Paul
  
 
  
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 Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net Sep 10 10:23AM -0500  
 
 What is the url?
  
  
 
 Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk Sep 10 05:45PM +0100  
 
 Hello,
  
 This is not so. In June Apple streamed some of the developer comference. I've 
 read that those of us with an Apple device can receive it. However, it looks 
 like you need an RSS reader.
  
 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/504959/20130910/apple-iphone5s-iphone5c-launch-live-event-time.htm
  
 Gena
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
  
  
  
 
 Tommy Craig tecrai...@gmail.com Sep 10 02:19PM -0500  
 
 Sorry Paul, 
 
 I was leaving right after my last post and just now read your message. They
 did not stream the event and the mac observer didn't have their live blog. I
 ended up going to imore.com and watching their coverage. 
 
 Apple now has some videos about the new products on their webpage but not
 the full keynote. That will probably come later. 
 
 Tommy
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
 Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:24 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Keynote
  
  
 What is the url?
  
 On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Tommy Craig tecrai...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
 Hi Paul, 
 
 I don't think it is beening streamed. Usually they have bloggers that post
 during the keynote and then Apple puts the video up a couple hours later. If
 you won't to check out the blog, you might try the mac observer website. 
 
 Tommy
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
 Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:20 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Apple Keynote
  
  
  
 Hello everyone. Ive been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I dont see a
 link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
 How can I be sure to access this address live?
  
  
  
 Thanks so much.
  
  
  
 Paul
  
  
  
  
  
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braille display vs braille note takers.

[Chenelle Hancock]

 Hello Everyone, 

 I will be starting a brand new job  in Las Vegas Nevada.  I  have to choose 
between  the 40.  cell brailliant  and the Braille sense you too. 
I will be working with the windows platform.  So I wanted someone's advice  
about which one I should get for work purpoqes. 
Thanks so much for your help 
I most greatly  appreciate  it. 
Sincerely, Chenelle Hncck. 

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How do you delete music from your iPhone?

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Hi everyone!
How do you delete music from your iPhone?

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Really a PBR with voice-over how do you do it!

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! How do you read a PDF using voice over keystroke amounts?

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 mail focus problem [1 Update]
 mail authentication issue [5 Updates]
 In VMWare, what screen reader modifier key are you using? [3 Updates]
 home, end, pgUp and pgDown on bluetooth keyboards? [2 Updates]
 Mac Mini disconnecting from newly WPA2-secured network [6 Updates]
 Help with Finder [3 Updates]
 questions [1 Update]
 Apple Time Capsule setup [1 Update]
 vm fusion [1 Update]
 accessing ftp servers on the mac transmit vs cyberduck with vo [1 Update]
 Software that will convert speech to text? [1 Update]
  mail focus problem
 Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com Jul 19 01:09PM -0400  
 
 Hey guys,
 I seem to be having a problem with mail, and am curious if anyone knows how 
 to fix it. When i first got my mac, when i would vo left and right arrow, it 
 would flip between the sender of themessage, who it's from, the subject, etc. 
 Now thisseemsto have changed. Now it goes between messages. Any ideas how to 
 change this back?
  
 Thanks
 Jed
  
 
  mail authentication issue
 Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca Jul 18 10:30PM -0700  
 
 . Hello. I've been experiencing an issue in which every time I launch mail, I 
 receive the following message:
 Verify certificate. The identity of pop.shaw.ca cannot be verified. The 
 certificate for this server is invalid. You might be connecting to a server 
 that is pretending to be pop.shaw.ca
  
 I researched this on google and they stated to 
 1. Press show certificate.
 2. Click trust
 3. Click connect.
  
 However, when I follow these steps, it asks for my password but will not 
 accept said password. The only way I can utilize mail is to click connect 
 every time the mail program is launched. I had this issue when I first got 
 this mac but the trust option quickly rectified it. Thanks for any help.
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Jul 19 12:03AM -0600  
 
 Hi,
  
 It's an issue with the Shaw certificate. If you follow the instructions you 
 found on the web, it will rectify that issue. The password that it is asking 
 for is your computer Admin password.  So, the password that you use to log 
 into the computer is the one you need to enter, not your ShawMail password. 
 The Admin password is required because you are specifically adding an 
 untrusted certificate to your Mail app.
  
 HTH.
  
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
 Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com Jul 19 01:42AM -0500  
 
 let me know if you find out why that happens. it happens to me all the time 
 too. good luck, max 
 On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Kerri wrote:
  
  
 
 Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca Jul 19 09:53AM -0700  
 
 Hello, Max. Did you try tabbing to show certificate and then tabbing to trust?
  
 
 Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca Jul 19 09:58AM -0700  
 
 thanks but I don't have an admin password!
  
 
  In VMWare, what screen reader modifier key are you using?
 Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net Jul 19 11:52AM -0400  
 
 In preparation for getting a macBook Air, and running windows in a vm, I've 
 made the following alterations to my keyboards using SharpKeys. 
 I've set the right option key as capslock, and also, I've set the right 
 windows key(right command) to right control key. I did the control key thing 
 because I noticed in jaws help that the laptop layout sometimes requires 
 control in conjunction with the jaws key, and it was too much of a stretch to 
 use the left control with the right alt (jaws key).
  
 So, on the bluetooth keyboard, I've got (left to right) 
 function key
 control
 alt
 left windows key
 spacebar
 right control
 capslock.
  
 On the full-size USB keyboard, to the right of the spacebar, it's right 
 windows key, capslock, right control.
  
 What are other VMWare users using for screenreader modifier key arrangements? 
 I plan to use both NVDA and JAWS in laptop mode.
 P.S. I suppose one solution to the whole problem is to just carry around and 
 plug in a full sized Apple USB keyboard, keeping screen readers set to 
 desktop layout, but that sounds a little weird.
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Jul 19 05:03PM +0100  
 
 Hello Phil.
  
 I too use NDVA and a demo version of jaws mainly for testing as I test for 
 companies using the Mac and Windows.
  
 Well, to solve all my problems, I have an Apple USB keyboard which I only use 
 for Window environments. I do not have a MacBook Air or any kind of lap top 
 and just use my I Mac, 16 GB for Mac and 16 GB for windows. No pauses, busy's 
 or anything else to put up with. When Maverick comes, then it's a format of 
 my SSD although I haven't installed anything since I got my Mac in January. 
 It's like having two computers although it's only one! Amazing.
  
 Kawal.
  
  
 
 jon squally jonsqua...@gmail.com Jul 19 09:48AM -0700  
 
 Hello everyone,
  
 I have 

Reading iBooks from the Mac?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello  all,
 I use a series  of different  formats in regards  to reading  books on the i 
phone. 
I use the audible app, I books, Read to go,  voice stream and bard  by the 
national  library service.  I am also using my braille display  to read 
articles  from the nfb  website as well.  I also have braille books sent to my 
house  for me to read in a hard  copy format. 
I want to try to disable  my speech  on my read  to go app.  So I  so I  can 
read  the book share  books with my  braille display. 
How do I go about disabling  the speech on read to go. 
thanks a lot  for  your help. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 

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Re: i phone users.

[Chenelle Hancock]

 
 Hello  everyone, 

I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I first 
purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  anyone that I 
knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access  to a smart phone 
where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let alone  download  music 
and video content.  Without  having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my 
brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did not know 
what  to do with myself  at first. 
Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I phone  4. 
s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with an I pad mini 
and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested  in all things apple 
that I am at the moment. 
For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system ever again 
as long as I live. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 

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accessories for the i pad mini?

[chenelle hancock]

Hello everyone,

I wanted to know if there were  a tactile case  for the i pad mini and if so 
would it be worth getting?
sincerely, chenelle
thanks a lot for your help. i really appreciate it.

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The transfer of movies and tv shows from your I tunes library onto your time capsule?

[chenelle hancock]

Hello everyone,

I am in need of some help in the transfer of my movies and tv shows from  my I 
tunes library onto my time capsule? How do you go about doing this with using 
voice over   commands? Any help would be most appreciated?
sincerely, chenelle
thanks again.

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Is there another way to add music/media onto your i phone without using i tunes?

[chenelle hancock]

Hello everyone,

I  wanted to know if there were another  way to import  music onto your i phone 
5 other than  using  I Tunes?
I have a friend that is a new I phone user and  they  own a windows computer. 
They also use jaws but have never used Itunes before. They wanted to transfer 
their  music library  to their  i phone 5 but without  having to use i tunes of 
course. so is there a way to do this or will  they just have to  learn how to 
use itunes?
thank  you so much for your time and help i mostly greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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Where do you go to download the caring boys onto your iPhone after changing your English voice –

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! How do you download voices onto your iPhone I Wanna download 
the Karen voice because I have my phone on Australian English severity of girls 
to download the voices? Thank you

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 2 extremely frustrating problems - please help [4 Updates]
 Fusion boot camp or parallel [3 Updates]
 downloading or safari issue [3 Updates]
 iTunes match [2 Updates]
 Nightowl questions [2 Updates]
 Deleting messages from the server when you delete from mial [5 Updates]
 Another totally unrelated question [3 Updates]
 what's the current state of firefox accessibility with the latest version of 
 mac os10 [3 Updates]
  2 extremely frustrating problems - please help
 Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com Jun 16 02:03AM +0530  
 
 Hi all,
  
 I'm facing 2 weird and frustrating  challenges while using Safari on my Mac.
 1. Sometimes, when I press command-l, instead of being directed to the 
 address bar, I am directed to the downloads folder in Safari. Similarly, when 
 I press M in Safari, it opens Apple Mail even when I am in Safari.
 This gets automatically fixed when I restart my Mac a couple of times.
 2. Sometimes, when I use the keyboard to type something, instead of showing 
 the letters that I type, it shows weird symbols like Ó´.
 Have I inadvertently enabled or disabled something?
 I'm completely baffled. Please help.
  
 Best,
 Rahul
  
 
 Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com Jun 15 03:57PM -0500  
 
 Hello; i think your option key may be sticking. because command option l is 
 the key sequence for opening the downloads manager. hope that helps, max 
 On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
  
  
 
 Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Jun 16 07:03AM +1000  
 
 HI. yep i thought that too. 
 Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
 Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 twitter: bubbygirl 
 skype: bubbygirl1972
  
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Jun 15 05:12PM -0400  
 
 Me too. Option-cmd-l opens downloads; option-m, if you enabled the keyboard 
 commander, opens mail; option with most characters types an alternate 
 character, like option-8 for a bullet. So, check the physical key on your 
 keyboard and be sure it is working correctly. If it is not a Macbook, you 
 might want to replace the keyboard.
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  Fusion boot camp or parallel
 zoe fiog...@rogers.com Jun 15 09:55AM -0400  
 
 Ok guys, let's say paralel is out. if I go with fusion, am I to understand 
 that I would not be able to boot windows up independedntly and use windows 
 commands? I like the idea if sharing files and etc between windows and mac 
 but I'm a little afraid of not being able to use windows independently,
 Also excuse me I'm not familiar yet with all the mac terminology, but I 
 think if I get the mac now it would come with mountain lion, but I think I 
 read somewhere that something new is coming out in the fall, should I wait 
 for the fall to get the newest out there or should I stick with the mountain 
 lion and get it now? Also trying to make a desision between the mac mini 
 and the beautiful looking 27 inch all in one base i mac and opinions there?
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:13 PM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
  
  
 My thoughts are that it depends. I used Bootcamp when I started with the 
 Mac, and installed a boot manager that let me just hit w or m to boot into 
 windows or mac. It was great, since I needed to know not a single mac 
 command to use windows, whereas a virtual machine solution requires you to 
 be able to at least launch it in mac first. That said, I had no official 
 training so had to rely on this list and twitter to learn everything about 
 the mac. Since I still needed to use my computer on a daily basis, and since 
 the mac was my only machine, I felt that being able to use native windows 
 would be the best solution for me, until I was either comfortable with the 
 mac or decided it was not for me and stuck with only windows. Needless to 
 say, I got used to the mac and now hardly ever boot windows, and am looking 
 into replacing my bootcamp setup with a vm solution.
  
 If you are close to an Apple Store, you could go in there and get help, 
 especially in the first thirty days while your machine is still under 
 warranty. So, since you have access to help, I think a virtual machine 
 solution is better: no partitioning of the hard drive, not needing to shut 
 

Having voice-over problems with my MacBook Pro

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello all! I check my MacBook Pro into the Apple store on Wednesday and they 
took off Skype from my computer how many said they should start the problem of 
my voice over being sharpie that when I got it bad it would start up for you 
Sombrilla come online and then into words have freezeups impasse in between so 
I don't know what to do now? Can you help me?

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 downloading or safari issue [2 Updates]
 VM Fusion question [2 Updates]
 iOS user group [1 Update]
 Mail not opening conversations? [2 Updates]
 Foreign HQ voice for iPhone? [4 Updates]
 which OCR app does not support books again? [3 Updates]
 Blogging [1 Update]
 So wait… What should one use for scanning? [2 Updates]
 putting lots of small videos in to one big file [1 Update]
 IPhone and GMail [1 Update]
 Twitter [1 Update]
 I Broke FaceTime on my Mac [1 Update]
 itunes match and play lists [1 Update]
 getting a mac mini to G4 to boot from a USB drive? [1 Update]
 itunes ate my library file again [2 Updates]
  downloading or safari issue
 Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net Jun 13 03:35PM -0500  
 
 You know, it's funny that we both should offer exactly the very same 
 solutions to your problem Kerri. Tim, I can confirm your suspicions that CNIB 
 is pretty much unfamiluar with the Mac, Voice Over and how we use it. Their 
 only suggestion was for Kerri to use Crome. How do I know? It's just that she 
 told me herself via Facetime. Also, I actually got access to the text of 
 their response which they sent to her. Kerri, it seems to me that Tim's 
 solutions should work for you: especially the Option+return or enter key. I 
 strongly suspect it's a web coding issue at work here. What makes me think 
 this is the frank and rather surprising admition that at one time JAWS users 
 had the same issue. So far as I am concerned, the issue is more on their end 
 and not yours.  I think it's got to come down to making sure that their HTML 
 is correctly written. Would you not agree?
  
  
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
  
  
 
 Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca Jun 13 03:55PM -0700  
 
 Hello, Tim and Ray:
  
 Optiion enter or force download finally cracked the issue for which I thank 
 you. I never knew this command existed. Yo are right,t eh CNIB barely assists 
 anyone so I like you, Tim barely use it but when I want to use it, now it 
 does work. 
 Ray, yo are correct in your summation that the CNIB assistant was not 
 helpful, in fact, he used a cop out when instructing me to download chrome. 
 All he had to do was put me in contact with other Canadian mac users or ask 
 if he couuld send my contact information to other Mac users. It's just 
 ridiculous.
  
 
  VM Fusion question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Jun 13 05:51PM -0400  
 
 Hi.
 I am trying to use my Boot Camp Windows installation to create VM fusion 
 virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
 The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on the 
 same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the one I 
 should use for Boot Camp?
 Thanks
 Bill
  
 
 Chris H christopher...@gmail.com Jun 13 11:45PM +0100  
 
 You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
 bootcamp without sighted assistance from
 www.applevis.com
  
  
  
 Chris
  
 On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
  
 
  iOS user group
 Shane Christenson ksha...@att.net Jun 11 05:03PM -0500  
 
 Hello. If I may, I'd like to make a correction. The conference call for the 
 IBUG meetings is every Monday night. The meetings that are face-to-face at 
 the Apple Store, are once a month usually the fourth Saturday of every month.
 Shane
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  Mail not opening conversations?
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Jun 13 05:09PM -0400  
 
 I think they both do the same thing. Yes, I often use that trick as well, but 
 sometimes I only want the most recent message, or most of the messages are 
 already read, or for some other reason I want to just expand the conversation.
  To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
  Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
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 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net Jun 14 07:35AM +1000  
 
 Oh I do the same thing a lot of the time. Both methods work for different 
 situations. 
  
  
  
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
 Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net Jun 13 10:41PM +0200  
 
 Hi,
 actually the iPhone uses in your home language a high quality voice. At least 
 that's what I know 

Having problems with my MacBook Pro question to

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! Position now again I wanted to now what do I do to fix the 
choppiness with voice-over every guys to my MacBook Pro and went to the Apple 
store on Wednesday and its calf straight from me and when we restarted our 
became back iambic van when I was using it earlier today it would freeze in the 
middle of same I'm using caring from Australia is my mean voice so I don't know 
of it would be that or

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   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 downloading or safari issue [2 Updates]
 VM Fusion question [2 Updates]
 iOS user group [1 Update]
 Mail not opening conversations? [2 Updates]
 Foreign HQ voice for iPhone? [4 Updates]
 which OCR app does not support books again? [3 Updates]
 Blogging [1 Update]
 So wait… What should one use for scanning? [2 Updates]
 putting lots of small videos in to one big file [1 Update]
 IPhone and GMail [1 Update]
 Twitter [1 Update]
 I Broke FaceTime on my Mac [1 Update]
 itunes match and play lists [1 Update]
 getting a mac mini to G4 to boot from a USB drive? [1 Update]
 itunes ate my library file again [2 Updates]
  downloading or safari issue
 Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net Jun 13 03:35PM -0500  
 
 You know, it's funny that we both should offer exactly the very same 
 solutions to your problem Kerri. Tim, I can confirm your suspicions that CNIB 
 is pretty much unfamiluar with the Mac, Voice Over and how we use it. Their 
 only suggestion was for Kerri to use Crome. How do I know? It's just that she 
 told me herself via Facetime. Also, I actually got access to the text of 
 their response which they sent to her. Kerri, it seems to me that Tim's 
 solutions should work for you: especially the Option+return or enter key. I 
 strongly suspect it's a web coding issue at work here. What makes me think 
 this is the frank and rather surprising admition that at one time JAWS users 
 had the same issue. So far as I am concerned, the issue is more on their end 
 and not yours.  I think it's got to come down to making sure that their HTML 
 is correctly written. Would you not agree?
  
  
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
  
  
 
 Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca Jun 13 03:55PM -0700  
 
 Hello, Tim and Ray:
  
 Optiion enter or force download finally cracked the issue for which I thank 
 you. I never knew this command existed. Yo are right,t eh CNIB barely assists 
 anyone so I like you, Tim barely use it but when I want to use it, now it 
 does work. 
 Ray, yo are correct in your summation that the CNIB assistant was not 
 helpful, in fact, he used a cop out when instructing me to download chrome. 
 All he had to do was put me in contact with other Canadian mac users or ask 
 if he couuld send my contact information to other Mac users. It's just 
 ridiculous.
  
 
  VM Fusion question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Jun 13 05:51PM -0400  
 
 Hi.
 I am trying to use my Boot Camp Windows installation to create VM fusion 
 virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
 The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on the 
 same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the one I 
 should use for Boot Camp?
 Thanks
 Bill
  
 
 Chris H christopher...@gmail.com Jun 13 11:45PM +0100  
 
 You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
 bootcamp without sighted assistance from
 www.applevis.com
  
  
  
 Chris
  
 On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
  
 
  iOS user group
 Shane Christenson ksha...@att.net Jun 11 05:03PM -0500  
 
 Hello. If I may, I'd like to make a correction. The conference call for the 
 IBUG meetings is every Monday night. The meetings that are face-to-face at 
 the Apple Store, are once a month usually the fourth Saturday of every month.
 Shane
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  Mail not opening conversations?
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Jun 13 05:09PM -0400  
 
 I think they both do the same thing. Yes, I often use that trick as well, but 
 sometimes I only want the most recent message, or most of the messages are 
 already read, or for some other reason I want to just expand the conversation.
  To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
  Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
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 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net Jun 14 07:35AM +1000  
 
 Oh I do the same thing a lot of the time. Both methods work for different 
 situations. 
  
  
  
 Danny. 
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
 Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net Jun 13 10:41PM +0200  
 
 Hi,
 actually the iPhone uses in your home language 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 2 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 
 Hello everyone! I think blind people need to start complaining about what 
 they dollhouse and be grateful for what they do house! Every guys to faults 
 in technology not everyone is so happy with technology! And everyone can 
 afford a droid or an iPhone! But it was about six years a girl win the first 
 iPhone email and it was accessible until two years later when the Kim out 
 with the 3GS

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[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I have to agree with Christine I don't think that you need a 
special phone Carrie are in order to have an iPhone that's assessable for blind 
people who are not TechNet technologically savvy

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 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point? [24 
 Updates]
 Blogging sites [1 Update]
  OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point?
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com Jun 07 10:06AM -0500  
 
 I'm with you, Christine. I don't get it,
 donna
  
 
 Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net Jun 07 11:54AM -0400  
 
 We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is 
 provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
 Original message:
  
 
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com Jun 07 12:13PM -0400  
 
 Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those 
 phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it 
 possible for companies to say, Well, there's that special company helping 
 the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and 
 services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized 
 goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, 
 employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level.
 Christine
  
  
  
 
 Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC 
 michael.babcoc...@gmail.com Jun 07 10:19AM -0600  
 
 I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it from 
 this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone, because somehow 
 you disabled speech on your iPhone. However, in the current time, if we 
 dialed 611 and STA just how we would be able to enable speech on our iOS 
 device again, they might ask us what we are talking about, or transfer us 
 around to a myriad of different individuals who still don't know what we're 
 talking about. However, if a blind person is able to pick up his phone, dial 
 611, and receive assistive technology assistance, this might be more 
 beneficial to him. In addition, there are several smaller carriers out there, 
 especially running on the T-Mobile network, like this one appears to do. Just 
 something to think about, imagine being able to call customer service, and 
 getting assistance using jaws to read that bill, or voiceover, on your new 
 iPhone especially if you're brand-new customer.
  
 Michael Babcock
 Marketing and Sales Manager
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
  
  
 
 Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com Jun 07 11:26AM -0500  
 
 That is so true! Any excuse that assists companies to ignore accessibility is 
 a terrible thing!
  
  
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
 richr...@gmail.com
  
  
 
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com Jun 07 12:27PM -0400  
 
 That's fine -- but we should be able to call such a carrier on any phone we 
 wish, not proprietary phones for that carrier especially. Also, there could 
 still be a company, web site, etc., which specializes in this sort of help, 
 without giving the false impression that a specific carrier must be set aside 
 for us. In my experience, Apple has always been able to find someone who knew 
 about VoiceOver enough to help, or the rep researched it and got back to me. 
 I would be willing to stake money that sighted people have called Apple or 
 other companies, and have spoken to reps who needed to do some research on a 
 particular issue. Few reps are familiar with every possible bug, every 
 technical glitch, tip, shortcut, or troubleshooting strategy. 
 Christine
  
  
 
 Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC 
 michael.babcoc...@gmail.com Jun 07 10:40AM -0600  
 
 This is also a preference thing. For example, I was researching other 
 carriers yesterday, and a particular carrier Lightyear wireless kept popping 
 up. I honestly don't even know what they are, it looks like some pyramid 
 scheme program, however, I do know that there are probably some people out 
 there because again it kept coming up. So, it's up to the individual who 
 wants to use it, and I do think it would be a. Interesting program to 
 monitor, and see how well it does. I also do like the fact that it states 
 that 2% of the voice plans will go to organizations that support the blind, 
 so it would be interesting to see which organizations those are, and if those 
 organizations are behind this network!
 ATT offers a disability number, I don't have it on hand. I am pretty sure 
 that Verizon does as well, and I know Sprint customer service individuals 
 have documentation about accessibility. So, three of the four major carriers 
 I am pretty sure 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 2 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! To add to what I just said I think that through the winds later 
night technology Saudi with smartphones such as the droid in the iPhone! Maybe 
there should be a phone where they have the same features that they're kind of 
water down little bit! But understand every time there's a new phone

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On 07/06/2013, at 14:13, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point? [24 
 Updates]
 Blogging sites [1 Update]
  OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point?
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com Jun 07 10:06AM -0500  
 
 I'm with you, Christine. I don't get it,
 donna
  
 
 Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net Jun 07 11:54AM -0400  
 
 We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is 
 provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
 Original message:
  
 
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com Jun 07 12:13PM -0400  
 
 Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those 
 phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it 
 possible for companies to say, Well, there's that special company helping 
 the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and 
 services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized 
 goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, 
 employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level.
 Christine
  
  
  
 
 Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC 
 michael.babcoc...@gmail.com Jun 07 10:19AM -0600  
 
 I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it from 
 this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone, because somehow 
 you disabled speech on your iPhone. However, in the current time, if we 
 dialed 611 and STA just how we would be able to enable speech on our iOS 
 device again, they might ask us what we are talking about, or transfer us 
 around to a myriad of different individuals who still don't know what we're 
 talking about. However, if a blind person is able to pick up his phone, dial 
 611, and receive assistive technology assistance, this might be more 
 beneficial to him. In addition, there are several smaller carriers out there, 
 especially running on the T-Mobile network, like this one appears to do. Just 
 something to think about, imagine being able to call customer service, and 
 getting assistance using jaws to read that bill, or voiceover, on your new 
 iPhone especially if you're brand-new customer.
  
 Michael Babcock
 Marketing and Sales Manager
 Commtech LLC
 Web: http://commtechusa.net
 phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
 Fax: (480) 535-7649
  
  
 
 Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com Jun 07 11:26AM -0500  
 
 That is so true! Any excuse that assists companies to ignore accessibility is 
 a terrible thing!
  
  
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
 richr...@gmail.com
  
  
 
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com Jun 07 12:27PM -0400  
 
 That's fine -- but we should be able to call such a carrier on any phone we 
 wish, not proprietary phones for that carrier especially. Also, there could 
 still be a company, web site, etc., which specializes in this sort of help, 
 without giving the false impression that a specific carrier must be set aside 
 for us. In my experience, Apple has always been able to find someone who knew 
 about VoiceOver enough to help, or the rep researched it and got back to me. 
 I would be willing to stake money that sighted people have called Apple or 
 other companies, and have spoken to reps who needed to do some research on a 
 particular issue. Few reps are familiar with every possible bug, every 
 technical glitch, tip, shortcut, or troubleshooting strategy. 
 Christine
  
  
 
 Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC 
 michael.babcoc...@gmail.com Jun 07 10:40AM -0600  
 
 This is also a preference thing. For example, I was researching other 
 carriers yesterday, and a particular carrier Lightyear wireless kept popping 
 up. I honestly don't even know what they are, it looks like some pyramid 
 scheme program, however, I do know that there are probably some people out 
 there because again it kept coming up. So, it's up to the individual who 
 wants to use it, and I do think it would be a. Interesting program to 
 monitor, and see how well it does. I also do like the fact that it states 
 that 2% of the voice plans will go to organizations that support the blind, 
 so it would be interesting to see which organizations those are, and if those 
 organizations are behind this network!
 ATT offers a disability number, I don't have it on hand. I am pretty sure 
 that Verizon does as well, and I know Sprint customer service 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 2 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 Hello everyone! I start the blind community? Wanted to be you call! In not 
 separate! On all things: every guys to technology in regards to it would 
 charts for equal pay every guys that you caught education equal to 
 transportation etc I also decide that they wanted everything to be 
 accessible? However where are you having breakthroughs with assessability 
 three phoned terriers smart phones in the lake! And people are still not 
 here? So how do we start this problem!

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[Chenelle Hancock]

How much does the new terabyte hi Drive cost to click into your MacBook Pro?

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On 20/04/2013, at 11:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 How is VO in Logic with step time? [1 Update]
 anti virus for my new mac [2 Updates]
 silver dollar app question. [1 Update]
 Help with VMWare Fusion [3 Updates]
 flack conversion? [2 Updates]
 How to find ideal screen resolution (vmware) [1 Update]
 Skype [1 Update]
 Regarding ZCaptcha [14 Updates]
  How is VO in Logic with step time?
 Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com Apr 20 11:06PM -0400  
 
 Does Logic's step time entry work well with Voice Over? I want to write down 
 my compositions, but, since moving completely away from Windows, I haven't 
 found any music notation software that works with the Mac. 
 Tom Frank
 vermonttom@gmail.c
  
 
  anti virus for my new mac
 Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com Apr 20 10:14PM -0400  
 
 Hello All,
  
 I'm new here  new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
 Woodbridge  Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
 BTW. 
  
 Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use? Do you use 
 Avast? I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
 with the mac. I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things from 
 the net, like Skype. 
  
 I'm slowly getting there. Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
 downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
 click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next. I somehow 
 found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a cancel 
 option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the doctor's. So, 
 that leads me to my next question, when downloading something from the net, 
 how do we access it? I think silverlight is some sort of plug in and not 
 something that I'm likely to need again but I know I want skype and some 
 antivirus. so, I've guessed that there is a different process from 
 downloading things from the App Store as I did the type2phone successfully 
 and going through Safari to download things. 
  
 Thanks in advance. 
  
 Katey 
  
 Sent from my iPad
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Apr 20 09:26PM -0500  
 
 I'd go for ClamxaV. Here's another tip. Download it directly from the 
 developer's site and not from the app store. Why? The app store version does 
 not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
 you've set it up that way. Easy to understand and fully accessible.
  
  
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
  
  
 
  silver dollar app question.
 Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com Apr 20 10:04PM -0400  
 
 I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, that 
 was free, but when I clicked the download app, option, it did nothing, and 
 the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found strange. Does 
 anyone know anything about this?
 I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
 nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
 before I purchased the Mac version.
  
 
  Help with VMWare Fusion
 Yolanda Thompson ylt...@gmail.com Apr 20 06:03PM -0600  
 
 Ok, I got it installed--vmware that is--and I cannot figure out how to
 launch the
 window below the toolbar that brings me into windows. Then, when I
 hit alt-f4 in
 the windows it throws me out to the mac screen and I cannot get back.
 And, how on earth dos everyone find out the keystrokes for mac apps? I have 
 not
 had luck.
 HELP! LOL
  
 
 Kliphton A M kliph...@gmail.com Apr 20 07:10PM -0500  
 
 I could help you better by skype or over the phone, what works better for 
 you? My info is in my signature.
 
 Kliphton Senior
 (EmailiMessage) kliph...@gmail.com
 (TwitterSkype) kliphton72
 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
 (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
 http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
  
  
 
 Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com Apr 20 09:54PM -0400  
 
 I was hoping you'd answer onlist as I have long wanted to have those same 
 questions answered. that is, after all, what the list is for.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kliphton A M 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion
  
  
 I could help you better by skype or over the phone, what works better for 
 you? My info is in my signature.
  
  
 Kliphton Senior
 (EmailiMessage) kliph...@gmail.com
 (TwitterSkype) kliphton72
 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
 (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
 http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
  
  
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Yolanda 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 9 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 eyour experiences with this and is there a way to keep your 
 focus consistently within windows with the newer fusion versions (i mean 
 at times you will have to access fusion to put through usb devices or 
 cmd-tab to other mac apps and then turn on vo again, it would be nice if 
 there was a consisten tway to make sure that if you return to vmware you 
 have keyboard focus in windows.
 Thanks in advance for any tips or information,
 Greetings, Anouk,
  
 
  Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 17 Topics
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Apr 09 06:05PM -0400  
 
 
  Hi Donna
  
 I was able to get rehab to purchase a mack over 3, years ago. I then told 
 them that i wanted to learn another new computer system and that i wanted to 
 work for apple. Therefore, they went ahead and it chased me a 15 inch mack 
 book pro 2010.
 Sincerely Chenelle
  
 
  Making a document accessible to seniors who don't use a computer?
 Maurice Mines maurice.mi...@gmail.com Apr 09 02:14PM -0700  
 
 Good afternoon, I have an interesting accessibility problem. I have a 
 document that reads very well in TextEdit. But the document that I am being 
 easily on a computer, has to be converted into an audio form format? So my 
 question to the group is what he is the best way to achieve that? I have two 
 audio production software packages,The first one, is Amadeus Pro and the 
 second is audio hijack Pro. So other any good suggestions for making a 
 document that reads very well in TextEdit, into an audio form that a senior 
 could listen to this document on the end in a less player.? I certainly 
 intend to distribute the document to computer users in its current Microsoft 
 word format. But I know this lead to, or three seniors who don't know how to 
 use a computer, and don't want to learn how to use a computer will definitely 
 feel left out of this information. Certainly feel free to suggest possible 
 solutions to this problem. Sincerely Maurice. PS, please note that I'm using 
 Dragon dictate for the Mac to dictate the text of this email. So it if it 
 doesn't make sense completely to you please email me privately and let me 
 know?
  
 
 erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com Apr 09 05:23PM -0400  
 
 Why don't you just highlight all the text, press control option shift M, and 
 choose add to ITunes as a spoken track? Then you can just burn the resultant 
 audio to a CD.
  
 Best,
  
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
  
  
 
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Apr 09 05:28PM -0400  
 
 If you uses TextEdit and convert the document to plain text does it read 
 reasonably well? If so then you can use terminal to generate an AIFF 
 file of the audio. So if I save the document as important_stuff.txt then 
 in terminal I would do
  
 say  important_stuff.txt -o important_stuff.aiff
  
 and you should end up with an aiff file which you can then convert to 
 mp3 or whatever. Speech rates are default for your system but if you 
 check the email archive I previously note how you can embed directives 
 in the text to change those setting on the fly.
  
 CB
  
 On 4/9/13 5:14 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
  
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 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Apr 09 05:45PM -0400  
 
 Or you can do what Erik suggest, which sounds a lot easier than my 
 solution, unless you wanted to embed some directives in the doc. Hmm, 
 maybe those directives would still be honored by the add to iTunes 
 process. Here is one of the early emails which talks about using the say 
 command and embedding directives in the text:
  
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg72990.html
  
 CB
  
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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 17 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 
 Hi Donna

I was able to get rehab to purchase a mack over 3, years ago. I then told them 
that i wanted to learn another new computer system and that i wanted to work 
for apple. Therefore, they went ahead and it chased me a 15 inch mack book pro 
2010.
Sincerely Chenelle

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Mack question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,

it's been a while since i have posted  anything on the list. I wanted to know 
if ones  computer would no longer be covered  due to its three year experation 
date  coming up in mid october. would you just  purchase another mack book or 
would you just continue using the one that you hcurrently have in spite of it 
no longer having any coverage on it?
thanks so much for your help and time. it is  greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

Sent from my iPhone

On 07/04/2013, at 5:45 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Serious question about Mac vs. Windows [3 Updates]
 pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen [1 Update]
 Selling my IPhone 4S [1 Update]
 Jumping in with using a Mac [5 Updates]
 VM Fusion and Windows 7 [1 Update]
 Porting software written in C-sharp two the mac [1 Update]
 Strange FTP problem [1 Update]
  Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
 Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com Apr 07 01:07PM -0500  
 
 I find VoiceOver to be a very robust screen reader. I think you will fine 
 that the only accessibility issues you have will be with specific 
 applications. About the only area where there seems to be a consensus is in 
 office productivity. Microsoft office and windows screen readers continue to 
 have a definite edge there. I am hopeful that this will not always be the 
 case. VoiceOver is quite powerful as a screen reader and serves its operating 
 system quite adequately, in my opinion. 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com Apr 07 04:12PM -0500  
 
 Hi Shannon and Kelly
 In my opinion, voiceover is a serious screen reader which is a serious 
 contender with window was in Jaws. Having said that, I think that it's not 
 voiceover that's limited, it's the applications which your work with it or 
 don't, depending on whether of the developer Roos contacted Apple for the 
 information they needed to make it work. This also assumes that they thought 
 of us in the first place. There are some blind people these days that have 
 really no useful windows and Leslie want it. iPhone one could do without it 
 forever.
 Regards,
 GG
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Maria  Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Apr 08 07:45AM +1000  
 
 HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices integrate 
 with the mac. Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work much better 
 than itunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full time just before I 
 switched but the tts didn't sound right not when using sapi. I also think as 
 time goes on there will be more and more accessible programmes for the mac. 
 Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
 Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 twitter: bubbygirl 
 skype: bubbygirl1972
  
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
  pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen
 Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Apr 07 02:32PM -0700  
 
 Can this be done? whenever he goes t accessibility/voiceover/braille, it only 
 sees a braille edge 0102, and cannot successfully pair. Any ideas?
  
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
  Selling my IPhone 4S
 Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Apr 07 04:28PM -0400  
 
 I have an IPhone 4S black 16GB locked to the ATT carrier, non-jailbroken, 
 and never once has been, which was bought in February of 2011. This hone is 
 in 100% tip-top mint condition, not a single scratch or crack on it. It 
 never even once has ever been dropped. It is running the latest I O S 6.1.3. 
 I have all the cables, as well as the electrical receptacle charging cube, 
 and even still have the original earbuds. Though I love this phone, I have 
 upgraded last January to an IPhone 5 black 64GB, so I no longer am in the 
 need for this phone. I'm asking $200.00. Please note as a few people have 
 asked me this already, so I want to make this very clear from the get-go. 
 No, I will not accept multiple installment payments. I must receive the 
 payment in full all at once, and only will ship to the states, sorry 
 Canadian residents. The $200 does include shipping. If you are an IPhone 
 Newby, I even can have it set when you get it for Voiceover already to be 
 enabled, although it's easy enough to do yourself. I know this list is for 
 Mac users, however, upon request, I will even for an additional dollar, 
 bringing your total to $201.00, just to cover the cost of the blank media, 
 burn you a copy of the ITunes installer for windows and will include the 
 disc in a neatly braille labeled sleeve. Please note that this IPhone is 
 locked, and only will work on the ATT network. It will not work on Verizon, 
 Sprint, or any of the like.
  
 Please contact me off list if interested. I accept check, money order, or 
 preferably PayPal.
  
 Please do not 

zoometext for the mack:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello all,

 I just  recently spoken to someone at  ai squared technology inc and they 
explained to me that their  most recent  vergin of zoome text for the mack. Is  
not with speech and the cost is around 99 u.s. dollars and that is a one time 
payment too. as long as the person has a valid  zoometext  registration number 
to use with it. i thought that i would share this bit of information with all 
of you
 have a nice day all.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 04/02/2013, at 3:44 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 How to Jailbreak iPhone 5, iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS Using evasi0n [iOS 
 6.1 - iOS 6] [4 Updates]
 Boot camp Linux [1 Update]
 Uncut demonstration of jailbreak iOS six using voice over [1 Update]
 strange happenings in apple mail [3 Updates]
 password prompt for no reason [2 Updates]
 o. t.: Microsoft Office for Mac! Important: read and leave comments! [6 
 Updates]
 Google books [3 Updates]
 QuickTime plugging Apple Mail problem. [1 Update]
 word count for mac? [2 Updates]
 anyone store the movies in their iTunes library on a portable hard drive? [1 
 Update]
 Adding Album Art in iTunes [1 Update]
  How to Jailbreak iPhone 5, iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS Using evasi0n 
 [iOS 6.1 - iOS 6]
 Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com Feb 04 12:32PM -0600  
 
 Hello everyone. I am just passing this along. Unfortunately I am out and 
 about today on my day job and so am unable to jailbreak my iPhone.
  
 http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/02/how-to-jailbreak-iphone-using-evasi0n-ios-6-1-ios-6.html#.UQ_90Il5mc0
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Feb 04 12:56PM -0600  
 
 I say, ain't this illegal? Why would anyone want to do this to an Iphone 5 
 anyhow?
  
  
 Sent from my mac
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
  
  
 
 Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com Feb 04 03:33PM -0500  
 
 No it is not illegal. A person might want to Jailbreak their iPhone to take 
 advantage of some cool apps that Apple doesn't allow in their app store.
  
 
 Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com Feb 04 01:43PM -0700  
 
 It is not illegal to jailbreak your device, there was a ruling in 2010 that 
 the Federal Communications Commission deemed it to not to be inappropriate to 
 jailbreak your device. However, last Saturday, started another thing that the 
 Federal Communications Commission began in 2010. This is, it is illegal to 
 unlock your device.
 Jailbreaking your device provide you rude access to the device, and allows 
 you to make any modifications to the device that you would like. Whereas, 
 unlocking a device will allow you to utilize of that device that was designed 
 for a specific carrier, on another carrier's network. The FCC no longer wants 
 individuals to purchase phones at discounted prices, and then move them to 
 better networks.
 You can hear a demonstration of the jailbreaking process on my blog below.
 In my opinion, this is one of the easiest process is once you get it going, 
 that there has been for jail braking iOS
 Michael
  
 http://empoweringtheblind.com
 Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
  
  
  
 
  Boot camp Linux
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Feb 04 03:35PM -0500  
 
 Another question is how Linux-specific you're going to get since OSX is 
 Unix underneath. So shell scripts, file permissions and all that jazz 
 can be done there the same as any other unix box.
  
 CB
  
 On 1/21/13 7:14 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
  
 -- 
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  
 
  Uncut demonstration of jailbreak iOS six using voice over
 Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com Feb 04 01:26PM -0700  
 
 For those of your curious about the jailbreak process, I created a brief 
 uncut audio file of me actually jailbreaking my iPhone 4S. This process is 
 very simple, and you can hear this pod cast here:
 http://empoweringtheblind.com/blog/uncut-demonstration-of-jailbreak-ios-six-using-voice-over/?id=workwithmike
 Please use the comment field on the website to provide me with any of your 
 comments. You can utilize sites such as Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, and 
 Twitter so you don't have to create an account on the site to comment.
 Obviously, I would appreciate it if you shared this link with any other 
 friend you may have.
 Michael
  
 
  strange happenings in apple mail
 Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com Feb 04 02:16PM -0500  
 
 Hey guys,
 Whenever i am outside of apple mail it's telling me that i am getting 
 messages, it starts reading who it is from, etc.
 I'll be in another window, and it'll start saying who it is from. Should this 
 happen?
  
 
 Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com Feb 04 02:54PM -0500  
 
 Yes, it's because you have AppleMail opened, it's just notifications in case 
 you needed to say, wait for an important message.
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Feb 04 02:59PM -0500  
 
 You can go to system preferences, then 

I pad Mini qestion:

[chenelle hancock]

Hi all,

I wanted to know if  when you set up your i pad mini?  Does the  movie feature 
suppose  to work instantainiously  like it does on  your i phone? Thanks  a lot 
for your help it's most greatly appreciated. sincerely, chenelle.

Sent from my iPad

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ipad mini question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,

i just received my brand new ipad mini in the mail this morning, however,  when 
i went to turn voice over on  using my m.b. pro. It started off in english but 
then it went to spanish immediately  so how do i change it back to english via 
my m.b. pro?. thank you so much i really appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle
thank you so much for help and  time  with regards to this matter.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/11/2012, at 11:22 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 posting a picture from a text message to FACEbook? [1 Update]
 Can no longer use Google Maps to get directions [1 Update]
 Numbers reports busy when working with long spreadsheet [2 Updates]
 commander for notifications center? [5 Updates]
 Sound Forge ON Mac? [3 Updates]
 Video Converter Suggestions [2 Updates]
 mountain lion impressions [4 Updates]
 Safari plug ins, read ability [1 Update]
 bean word processor [1 Update]
 Accessible Crossword Puzzles [2 Updates]
 turning up youtube videos [1 Update]
 Tonido [1 Update]
 podcasts [1 Update]
  posting a picture from a text message to FACEbook?
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com Nov 23 09:05AM -0600  
 
 Anyone know how to do this? I've tried it from my iPhone, and from iMessage, 
 but can't seem to figure it out.
 Best,
 Donna
  
 
  Can no longer use Google Maps to get directions
 Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com Nov 23 08:40AM -0500  
 
 Haven't done this in a while, since I generally just use Navigon or another 
 app to get directions. However, I am seeking directions from one point to 
 another, not from my current location, in order to plan a trip, and Google 
 Maps on the Mac is so cluttered with a visual map I can't make heads or tails 
 of it, or even find the option for public transportation. I tried going to 
 Google's mobile site, but it appears that their map services are only 
 available if one has an Android device. Is there a workaround, or another 
 site I can use? Thanks.
 Christine
 P.S. I tried Mapquest, but that's a bundle of confusion as well.
  
 
  Numbers reports busy when working with long spreadsheet
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Nov 22 11:29PM -0800  
 
 Hey guys,
  
 I have had several problems with numbers since the mountain lion
 updated, and emailed apple accessibility a few weeks back. I never
 heard anything as I did express my disappointment with how poor an
 apple product like numbers worked with VO. I finally heard back from
 Apple and they said Numbers hasn't been updated in several years to
 reflect the changes in operating systems, and they currently can't say
 when numbers will be updated. Very frustrating and disappointing. I
 think Apple should place a disclaimer on the product, as it is very
 misleading. I work with large spreadsheets, so would love to hear
 about some alternative options since I feel both numbers and excel are
 pretty non accessible.
  
  
 
 Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com Nov 23 05:43AM -0600  
 
 Hi Brian
 Some people on this list of said that they like the program called tables. I 
 have not used it myself because I am been able to work around the problems 
 that we've discussed. I can see that if you use numbers for hours a day, it 
 would be a definite problem. I don't know if I would call numbers and excel 
 inaccessible, but I would call them difficult to use these days If you have 
 large files.
 Gigi
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  commander for notifications center?
 Kliphton.A.M kliph...@outlook.com Nov 23 02:58AM -0600  
 
 When notifications center was first introduced in mountain lion, someone
 posted a work around on how to make a commander or hot key for it since you
 couldn't do it the normal way in vo utility. Does anyone remember how to do
 it, or have that message handy?  I searched for it on the archives, but no
 luck. Thanks.
  
 
  
 Kliphton Senior
  
 (EmailiMessage) kliph...@outlook.com
  
 (TwitterSkype) kliphton72
  
 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
 http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com/ 
  
 (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
  
 (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Nov 23 10:54AM  
 
 Go to the shorrt Cut keys in preferences, add a short cut from there. I have 
 it as control shift n, well I did when I had my previous Mac. I have all that 
 to do again when I get my I Mac in Jan!
  
 Kawal.
  
  
 
 Kliphton.A.M kliph...@outlook.com Nov 23 05:14AM -0600  
 
 How do you tell it you want this short cut for notifications center?
  
 
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 4:54 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: commander for notifications center?
  
 
  
 Go to the shorrt Cut keys in preferences, add a short cut from there. I have
 it as control shift n, well I did when I had my 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 9 Messages in 5 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all
I figured it out. All

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/11/2012, at 4:27 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Help with best way to get windows 8 on my mac mini [1 Update]
 ipad mini question: [5 Updates]
 zip question [1 Update]
 mountain lion impressions [1 Update]
 updating Mac Mini hardware, and I have questions [1 Update]
  Help with best way to get windows 8 on my mac mini
 Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Nov 23 04:12PM -0500  
 
 Hi,
  
 Could anyone tell me if they have successfully installed windows 8 on their 
 macs if I have to get the dvd version or if I can just use the upgrade and 
 create my own install dvd with an iso file? It seams to make sense price wise 
 to go for online upgrade and create the windows 8 install if this works.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Ioana
  
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
  
 
  ipad mini question:
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Nov 23 01:05PM -0500  
 
 hi all,
  
 i just received my brand new ipad mini in the mail this morning, however, 
 when i went to turn voice over on using my m.b. pro. It started off in 
 english but then it went to spanish immediately so how do i change it back to 
 english via my m.b. pro?. thank you so much i really appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
 thank you so much for help and time with regards to this matter.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com Nov 23 07:44PM  
 
 Hello,
  
 I purchased one of the alternative applications to work with spreadsheets on 
 the Mac called Tables. Initially, I was very pleased with it as it contained 
 several very useful shortcut keys, for instance, to move to the top or bottom 
 of current column, to jump to the beginning or end of a row,. Selecting a 
 range of cells was also pretty accessible. I exchanged a few e-mails with the 
 developer and he was helpful. 
  
 Since Lion however Tables have become so much like numbers in terms of 
 reporting busy all the time, that it slowed my work totally to an 
 acceptable pace. The recent updates of Tables also brought a drop in the 
 accessibility. I would not advise at the moment to buy this programme 
 although do test it for yourselves as you have a 30 day trial period. I've 
 not been writing to the developer since. I got a bit fed up and I have had 
 other things to contend with. Also, I was hoping to be able to switch to 
 Numbers which I did and initially things were sort of okay until my 
 spreadsheets grew in size and I m again finding I can't work with them at a 
 pace that acceptable. Additionally, not being able to jump to top and bottom 
 of a column or beginning and end of a row is a disadvantage.
  
 Best wishs
  
 Andrew
  
 
 Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Nov 23 10:14AM -1000  
 
 On the Mac mini Go to settings international and set language to English
  
 Aloha,
  
 Charlie 
  
  
 
 Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Nov 23 10:16AM -1000  
 
 Sorry should've said iPad Mini not Mac Mini just follow the same instructions 
 on your iPad mini
  
 Aloha,
  
 Charlie 
  
  
 
 James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com Nov 23 12:52PM -0800  
 
 Well I guess if she is going to follow the suggestion of changing the
 language via te IPad mini, she is going to have to either be able to
 understand Spanish or have sighted assistance. I think that was the
 reason for the question of how to do it from the mac. Because the mac
 is presumably still speaking English, the IPad is not.
  
  
 
  zip question
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Nov 23 01:08PM -0500  
 
 You should be able to just open it in the finder which will extract it. 
 The resulting iso file can be opened in Disk Utility and burned to a CD. 
 If you need more details just ask.
  
 CB
  
 On 10/31/12 2:48 PM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote:
  
 -- 
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  
 
  mountain lion impressions
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Nov 23 09:54AM -0800  
 
 Does anyone have a guide to doing a clean install of Mountain Lion? I
 have nothing but busy busy problems in everything I run on my 2010
 iMac in safari, mail, new rack, everything is constantly busy busy
 Maybe a clean install will fix it, otherwise I find the mac has become
 unusable at these times when all my applications go into this busy
 busy phase. Thanks
  
  
 
  updating Mac Mini hardware, and I have questions
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Nov 23 12:05PM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
 It's that time of year when cool stuff can be gotten for insane
 prices, so I'd love to update my mini's hardware. I currently have a
 500gb hard drive (magnetic, not solid state) and 2gb ram.
 1. If I could only do one, should I upgrade the ram or the hard drive
 first? I run out of ram a lot, but would the fast speeds of an ssd
 nullify the excessive hd use of having low ram?
 2. Can the hard drive be easily upgraded? I'd love to drop an ssd in there.
 3. Does

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 9 Messages in 5 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all

All i did was to restore it and then it started to work correctly afterwords.
But thanks for all your help with this issue.
Sincerely, Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/11/2012, at 4:27 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Help with best way to get windows 8 on my mac mini [1 Update]
 ipad mini question: [5 Updates]
 zip question [1 Update]
 mountain lion impressions [1 Update]
 updating Mac Mini hardware, and I have questions [1 Update]
  Help with best way to get windows 8 on my mac mini
 Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Nov 23 04:12PM -0500  
 
 Hi,
  
 Could anyone tell me if they have successfully installed windows 8 on their 
 macs if I have to get the dvd version or if I can just use the upgrade and 
 create my own install dvd with an iso file? It seams to make sense price wise 
 to go for online upgrade and create the windows 8 install if this works.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Ioana
  
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
  
 
  ipad mini question:
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Nov 23 01:05PM -0500  
 
 hi all,
  
 i just received my brand new ipad mini in the mail this morning, however, 
 when i went to turn voice over on using my m.b. pro. It started off in 
 english but then it went to spanish immediately so how do i change it back to 
 english via my m.b. pro?. thank you so much i really appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
 thank you so much for help and time with regards to this matter.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com Nov 23 07:44PM  
 
 Hello,
  
 I purchased one of the alternative applications to work with spreadsheets on 
 the Mac called Tables. Initially, I was very pleased with it as it contained 
 several very useful shortcut keys, for instance, to move to the top or bottom 
 of current column, to jump to the beginning or end of a row,. Selecting a 
 range of cells was also pretty accessible. I exchanged a few e-mails with the 
 developer and he was helpful. 
  
 Since Lion however Tables have become so much like numbers in terms of 
 reporting busy all the time, that it slowed my work totally to an 
 acceptable pace. The recent updates of Tables also brought a drop in the 
 accessibility. I would not advise at the moment to buy this programme 
 although do test it for yourselves as you have a 30 day trial period. I've 
 not been writing to the developer since. I got a bit fed up and I have had 
 other things to contend with. Also, I was hoping to be able to switch to 
 Numbers which I did and initially things were sort of okay until my 
 spreadsheets grew in size and I m again finding I can't work with them at a 
 pace that acceptable. Additionally, not being able to jump to top and bottom 
 of a column or beginning and end of a row is a disadvantage.
  
 Best wishs
  
 Andrew
  
 
 Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Nov 23 10:14AM -1000  
 
 On the Mac mini Go to settings international and set language to English
  
 Aloha,
  
 Charlie 
  
  
 
 Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Nov 23 10:16AM -1000  
 
 Sorry should've said iPad Mini not Mac Mini just follow the same instructions 
 on your iPad mini
  
 Aloha,
  
 Charlie 
  
  
 
 James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com Nov 23 12:52PM -0800  
 
 Well I guess if she is going to follow the suggestion of changing the
 language via te IPad mini, she is going to have to either be able to
 understand Spanish or have sighted assistance. I think that was the
 reason for the question of how to do it from the mac. Because the mac
 is presumably still speaking English, the IPad is not.
  
  
 
  zip question
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Nov 23 01:08PM -0500  
 
 You should be able to just open it in the finder which will extract it. 
 The resulting iso file can be opened in Disk Utility and burned to a CD. 
 If you need more details just ask.
  
 CB
  
 On 10/31/12 2:48 PM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote:
  
 -- 
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  
 
  mountain lion impressions
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Nov 23 09:54AM -0800  
 
 Does anyone have a guide to doing a clean install of Mountain Lion? I
 have nothing but busy busy problems in everything I run on my 2010
 iMac in safari, mail, new rack, everything is constantly busy busy
 Maybe a clean install will fix it, otherwise I find the mac has become
 unusable at these times when all my applications go into this busy
 busy phase. Thanks
  
  
 
  updating Mac Mini hardware, and I have questions
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Nov 23 12:05PM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
 It's that time of year when cool stuff can be gotten for insane
 prices, so I'd love to update my mini's hardware. I currently have a
 500gb hard drive (magnetic, not solid state) and 2gb ram.
 1. If I could only do one, should I upgrade the ram or the hard drive
 first? I run out of ram a lot, but would the fast speeds of an ssd
 nullify

i pad mini question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello all,

it's been a while since i posted a question on here.  i just purchased an i pad 
mini 32 gig with wifi only!. i  wanted to know if anyone has played around with 
the latest i pad or not?  i also changed my phone plan so i could use my  i 
phone 4.s. as a hot spot  for my i pad mini. i wanted to know if anyone has 
used this method  instead of purchasing  the i pad or i pad mini with wifi and 
cellular together?. I am now  someon ethat has everything that is  mack 
related. I have a  i phone 4.s,  a mack book pro, an Apple TV, an time capsule 
and a  i pad mini. I don't think that i would need anything else after this 
purchase. I also have a  braille pen 12 display to go with my i pad and i phone 
4.s.  i also purchased the i pad mini due to the fact that at my job i  only 
have a certain amount of space to work in thus  having the i pad mini it does 
not take up very much space instead of the original i pad. i can just  toss it 
into my purse with my braille display and portabe magnifier and go. i was just 
wondering if anyone had anything positive or negative  to say about it? any fed 
back would be helpful. i should get it  by no later then december,3/12.
tahnks so much for your help i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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using the braille pen 12

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all
i wanted to know who has purchased the braille pen 12 and if so  do they have 
instrucnt  on how touse it with the  i phone 4.  so. thanks a lot for  your 
help i  reY  really do appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone

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braille pen 12 question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello all,

 I just  received my brand new braille pen 12 portable braille display earlier 
this morning from my v.s.b.i counselor. My question is?  Is there anyone out 
there that could give me step by step instructions  on how to install  the 
drivers onto my mack? and  right now now i have it on charge since about 5.10 
pm  this evening. I don't see a switch on or off button  to turn it on? if 
anyone  has this particular braille display. i  would really appreciate any 
help that i could get. i  have to go to work tomorrow and i hve to use it!. so 
if someone could back to me off list i would greatly appreciate it.
my email address is: filmchenelle1...@gmail.com

thanks you so much for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

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braille pen 12 with the i phone 4.s?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

 i wanted to know if any  had and diffivulties with using the braille pen 12  
display with their i.o.s. devices? my counselor is getting me one for work. i 
will be using my i phone 4.s  to scan  tags on clothing  and i wanted to know 
how accessable  it was to use in order to read  such items as numbers that were 
 4 digits etc?.
thanks for your help i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 20 Messages in 12 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

What do I have to do in order to give voice-over to start up correctly without 
freezing

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On 26/09/2012, at 5:24 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Database Application for the Mac [2 Updates]
 Mail has no windows. [2 Updates]
 selling my mac [4 Updates]
 Calibres ebook-converter [2 Updates]
 a program that reads bar codes [2 Updates]
 password after screen saver or sleep. [1 Update]
 bootcamp [1 Update]
 shortcut keys for vo [1 Update]
 expanding abreviations using voice over [1 Update]
 I O S 6 update mostly glitch free, but ... [1 Update]
 Mac with blackboard [2 Updates]
 multiple accounts in the new Messages app [1 Update]
  Database Application for the Mac
 Esther mori...@mac.com Sep 26 11:28AM -0700  
 
 Hi Harry,
  
 A number of VO users reported being quite happy with Bento and rated
 this app very highly prior to updating to Mountain Lion, but
 apparently after updating they are getting Bento
 busy, Bento ready messages. I've only read detailed discussions
 about Bento on the mac-access list, so you could try doing a Mail
 Archive search for that list's archived content if you want to read
 more about this, or else joint that list. A lot of these issues seem
 to be specific to running this software under Mountain Lion, and this
 may be true of the recent App Store reviews (by non-VoiceOver users),
 too. Some users only reported encountering problems after updating --
 they had no problems running the very same version of the software
 before updating to Mountain Lion, and were also pleased by the ability
 to sync information using the Bento iOS apps.
  
 Just something to keep in mind when you perform your evaluations.
 Since you're running Mountain Lion you'll want to know abut the
 specific performance under this OS. Also, improvements in behavior
 may only come with more ML specific experience on the part of
 developers.
  
 HTH. Cheers,
  
 Esther
  
  
 
 Estelita est...@sky.com Sep 26 10:18PM +0100  
 
 Hi Esther,
 Can you please provide me the information on how to subscribe the mac-access 
 list?
 I am interested to subscribe it as well, thank you.
  
 Nene
  
 
  Mail has no windows.
 Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com Sep 26 09:59AM -0500  
 
 Yes, that is how favorites works and it's very nice.
  
 -- 
 Cheryl
  
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
  
  
  
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Sep 26 10:18PM +0100  
 
 I get this when I'm writing messages and I've only had my hands on the keys. 
 I get this in safari too when reading a website.
  
 
  selling my mac
 Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com Sep 26 01:26PM -0700  
 
 Hi all.
 So i'm thinking of selling my macbook pro.
 The only reason i want to sell it is because i want a lighter laptop for at 
 college.
 I will be commuting for several hours a day and will need a lighter computer.
 My question is, since i purchased the upgrade for the laptop, will i have to 
 transfer the mountain lion upgrade?
 If somebody were to ever restore it.
 Also, if anybody is interested please feel free to contact me.
 
 Thanks.
 Chris Bruinenberg
  
 cbrui...@gmail.com
  
 
 Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com Sep 26 02:55PM -0600  
 
 Chris,
  
 To be honest, I know of no other laptop which would be as light; in fact, 
 most are heavier. Someone feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.
  
 Regards,
  
 Harry
  
  
 
 Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com Sep 26 04:57PM -0400  
 
 Hi. If you're looking to sell her, it'd be helpful to give age, specs
 and price etc.
  
 Cameron.
  
  
  
  
 
 Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com Sep 26 02:00PM -0700  
 
 sorry all.
 It's a macbook pro 2011 13 inch. 4 gb ram, 128 gb samsung ssd, which i
 installed myself.
 I know the macbook air is light. it's been a thought i don't know,
 what are your opinions?
  
  
 
  Calibres ebook-converter
 Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com Sep 26 08:51PM +0200  
 
 Hi.
  
 Do you first add the file to the calibre library, or will you have to write 
 the files path.
  
 Best regards Annie.
  
 
 sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com Sep 26 09:36PM +0200  
 
 with out knowing it cause i have not tried, i believe that you have
 too write the full path too the file it you have them out side the
 application. Sandi
  
  
 
  a program that reads bar codes
 Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com Sep 26 09:14AM -0600  
 
 hey does anyone know if there is an app for the Ipad that reads barcodes 
 and gives instructions or let's you look up instructions?
  
 
 Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com Sep 26 02:22PM -0500  
 
 Hi there
 I don't know if it works on the iPad, but there is one program that I like 
 called digit-eyes. It's a very good bar scanner. It also has some other 
 options on it like recording labels.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  password after screen 

re: i.o.s. 6 question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
sorry about that! i meant to say  not  i.o.s. 6 but  the recent  10.8.2  
update.  did anyone have the   slow to  start voice over in a choppy manor? 
when i wrote the  previous message it was late in the evening almost midnight 
when i wrote it. i meant to  state the most recent update for the mack and not 
i.o.s. 6.  so has anyone had this problem after updating their mack to the  
10.8.2 update?
if anyone has any solutions to this  problem that i am having it would greatly 
appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle
thanks again for your recent post to my message before i really do appreciate 
it.

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On 23/09/2012, at 4:44 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Garageband question for song [3 Updates]
 Ripping audio tracks from video files [1 Update]
 iPad trouble [2 Updates]
 i.o.s. 6 question? [4 Updates]
 changing Command + # in Safari? [4 Updates]
 deleting post from facebook application on the i phone 4.s. [1 Update]
 key remappers [1 Update]
 Contacts [4 Updates]
 I O S 6 Bug: Accessibility seriously broken [2 Updates]
 That is the strangest thing I've ever seen! [1 Update]
 Is it just me? [1 Update]
 solved sharing reminders. cool [1 Update]
  Garageband question for song
 KJSC radio kjsc.ra...@gmail.com Sep 22 03:02PM -0700  
 
 Hi all. I have a question for you all that use garageband with VO. I made a 
 hook for a rap song that me and a friend of mine are producing and I want it 
 to loop in each Corus. my question is, how can I copy and payst the hook into 
 the corus? I have tried splitting the voice track and copy and pays it, but 
 all that does is not really do any thing accept for playing that one part to 
 where I recorded the voice track. is there any possible way to do this more 
 effectively? thanks.
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Sep 22 06:19PM -0400  
 
 Hi,
  
 Interact with arrange layout area/timeline/instruments. Then VO down arrow to 
 the hook and interact. Now navigate to the loop slider and loop it as many 
 bars as you like.
  
 hth
  
  
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
 KJSC radio kjsc.ra...@gmail.com Sep 23 01:07AM -0700  
 
 Thanks.
  
 
  Ripping audio tracks from video files
 Donovan Osborn donovan303...@gmail.com Sep 23 12:49AM -0700  
 
 Hi,
  
 Is there a program I can use to rip autio tracks from video files and save 
 them in MP3 or some other audio format?
  
 Thank you very much for your help.
  
 Sincerely,
  
 Donovan Osborn
 donovan303...@gmail.com
  
 
  iPad trouble
 Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com Sep 22 08:03PM -0400  
 
 My husband's iPad is somehow syncing with his new Mac Mini and his old iMac. 
 How do we stop it from syncing to the old iMac, but keep things authorized?
  
 Jane
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Sep 23 02:11AM -0400  
 
 Hi,
  
 how is it syncing with the iMac? Wirelessly I'm assuming? If so, he can go to 
 the phones settings in iTunes on his iMac, and under the summary tab, uncheck 
 sync iTunes wirelessly.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
  i.o.s. 6 question?
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Sep 22 10:35PM -0400  
 
 Hi all,
  
 After installing i.o.s. 6 onto my mack book pro over three days ago. My mack 
 after starting back up would take forever to start up voice over. then it 
 would fade in and out. it sounded choppy when starting back up after powering 
 on the mack? is there something that i can do to fix this problem? has anyone 
 had the same problem as myself, with regards to voice over starting up in a 
 choppy manor?.
 a any help that anyone could give me on this problem i would most greatly 
 appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 
 Kimberly thurman kkthur...@hotmail.com Sep 22 10:42PM -0400  
 
 IOS 6 is for iPods, iPhones, and iPads. Not for Macbook Pros. I think you 
 might be confused about what you installed where.
  
 On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
  
  
 
 Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com Sep 23 02:43PM +1200  
 
 Mine sometimes starts up choppy but only for half a minute. Then it resolves 
 itself. It's probably trying to load stuff. It should fix itself. Make sure 
 you don't have lots of unwanted programmes running.
  
 Lisette
  
  
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Sep 23 01:50AM -0400  
 
 The first thing I want to know is how in the world did you manage to get IOS 
 installed on a macbook? That is supposed to be for an IPod/IPhone/IPad.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:35 PM
 Subject: i.o.s. 6 question?
  
  
 Hi all,
  
 After installing i.o.s. 6 onto my mack book pro over three days ago. My 
 mack after

deleting post from facebook application on the i phone 4.s.

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

i wanted to know if anyone could  help me  out with a facebook  problem that i 
am having?  i am trying to delete   post from my facebook page off of my phone 
using voice  over  on the i phone?  is there anyone that could help me in   
this  matter. i would greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle
thanks.

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i.o.s. 6 question?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

After  installing i.o.s. 6 onto my mack book pro over three days ago. My  mack 
after starting back up would  take forever  to  start up voice over. then it 
would fade in and out. it sounded choppy when starting back up after powering 
on the mack? is there something that i can do to fix this problem? has anyone 
had the same problem as myself, with regards to voice over  starting up in a 
choppy manor?.
 a any help that anyone could give me on this  problem i would most greatly 
appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi Anne,

It's chenelle, I  am in need of some  assistance with  accessing materials off 
of a  school  website using  voice over? with adobie acrobat reader.  i was 
wondering if you could possibly  email me off list.
my email address is: filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
i really appreciate your assistancew in this  very important matter.
sincerely, chenelle
p.s. i will  email  you with  further details off list.

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On 05/09/2012, at 13:34, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 adding large amount of new contacts from list? [3 Updates]
 folders in mountain lion [3 Updates]
 New Tech Doctor podcast entitled Teaching the Mac in France [1 Update]
 iPhone again [1 Update]
 Forceing a diolog window to close [2 Updates]
 Bard download Question [1 Update]
 Caps Lock to VO keys and more [1 Update]
 app backups with Carbonite? [1 Update]
 recipes or database app with iCloud? [3 Updates]
 Further on the Talking communities client! [2 Updates]
 A Skype Query on the I Phone. [2 Updates]
 Logitech Media Server [1 Update]
 Syncing or Mirroring Two Folders [1 Update]
 In search of accessible password vault [1 Update]
 Help With Fusion [1 Update]
 [Maccessibility] The New Maccessibility Is Here [1 Update]
  adding large amount of new contacts from list?
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Sep 05 01:09PM -0400  
 
 Hi all,
 I just got an email with about 25 email addresses in it. I want to add them 
 all to my contacts, under a single group so I can send mass emails to 
 everyone on that list. Short of pasting each address into a new contact, then 
 somehow managing to add that contact to a group, is there a way I can do 
 this? Thanks.
  
  
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com Sep 05 10:13AM -0700  
 
 Hi Alex. Are you thinkim like a distribution list?
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Sep 05 01:15PM -0400  
 
 Yes, exactly. When I send to this group, the message should go to everyone. 
 Ideally all addresses would be hidden from recipients, but that is not a 
 priority.
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 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
  folders in mountain lion
 May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com Sep 05 08:41AM -0400  
 
 Hey, I was wondering what happened to the folders with Mountain Lion? Not all 
 my folders show up any longer. Who hid them?
  
 May and Prince Noah
 Personal Playground
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Sep 05 09:49AM -0400  
 
 Hi,
  
 lol. That is not a whole lot to go on. What folders are you referring to?
  
 Thanks.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
 May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com Sep 05 10:46AM -0400  
 
 Ones I created, school, books, ect.
  
 May and Prince Noah
 PR Manager
 www.phoenixfirefm.net
  
 Personal Playground
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
  
  
 
  New Tech Doctor podcast entitled Teaching the Mac in France
 Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com Sep 05 09:39AM -0500  
 
 Hi All,
  
 In this just published Tech Doctor podcast, Robert talks with Anne Robertson 
 who lives in France.
  
 In addition to working as a translator, Anne teaches blind and visually 
 impaired people to use the Mac. Robert and Anne discuss her approach to 
 training and explore how folks in France go about acquiring technology.
  
 They discuss the use of braille and the popularity of ebooks. Anne reads lots 
 of ebooks from a Canadian company called Cobo. These books are accessible on 
 both the Mac and iOs devices. Check out the podcast for all of the details.
  
 The Tech Doctor podcast is available on iTunes, iBlink radio and at
 http://www.dr-carter.com
  
 Robert Carter
  
 
  iPhone again
 Mary Scott bluespru...@comcast.net Sep 05 09:58AM -0400  
 
 I would really like to know of some podcasts or other tutorials on the iPhone 
 so I can start off fast with it. Any ideas? Mel
  
 
  Forceing a diolog window to close
 Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com Sep 05 08:07AM +0100  
 
 To force close an application or window, press command+option+escape key. A 
 force quit application window will apear with all your applications in a 
 table. You can interact with the table to choose the one you wish to close. I 
 find that it is usually already highlighted but it is best to check. Interact 
 with the table, vo+up or down arrow to land on the application you want to 
 close, stop interacting and move to extreme right with fn+vo keys+right arrow 
 and press force-quit button. You will be asked whether you 

Safari question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

i just intered a online  school for the first time. i wanted to know  how would 
one navigate  the website using voice over? when  the website has to use  falsh 
player? there are  items on the  website that are  electronic based for 
instance, the flash cards on the  website  to study from are  electronic. i can 
sign into the website however,  accessing the  materials on the website is 
somewhat difficult at the moment. i have 15 days from the day of purchasing the 
 class  to  get my full refund back. but before i go ahead and do that i would 
like to see if there were another  way for me to access the materials on the 
website?
if anypme could help me on this one i would most appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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On 05/09/2012, at 18:19, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Logitech Media Server [2 Updates]
 app backups with Carbonite? [1 Update]
 Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call [1 Update]
 installing extensions in Safari [1 Update]
 enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem: [1 Update]
 help pls with streaming music to airport express with voiceover on [1 Update]
 Updating Adobe Flash Player [2 Updates]
 Bard download Question [1 Update]
 iPhone again [1 Update]
 iPhone [5 Updates]
 Using Eclipse on the Mac [1 Update]
  Logitech Media Server
 Emrah li...@kavun.ch Sep 05 05:33PM -0400  
 
 BTW you can set the classic mode as default.
  
 
 Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com Sep 05 02:53PM -0700  
 
 Yes, I was able to do this once I found out how to get it into that mode 
 initially. It's working great now. Thanks.
 Marc
  
  
 
  app backups with Carbonite?
 agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com Sep 06 07:41AM +1000  
 
 Sorry can't help. If you get an answer can you post it here as I need to 
 know also.
 Also how did you get Carbonite? I looked on the Mac App store with no luck.
 Max.
  Original Message 
 Subject: app backups with Carbonite?
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:02:52 -0400
  
 
  Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call
 Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com Sep 05 04:38PM -0500  
 
 Hi guys. I've noticed this a few weeks ago when I bought my Skype credit but 
 didn't do anything because I thought it wouldn't crash so much. But now that 
 it's crashing more, this is ridiculous. Skype keeps crashing when I use the 
 dialpad in a call. For example, I use Skype to call my bank. When I press the 
 number 1 to check my balance and everything, Skype crashes. Has anyone else 
 experienced this?
  
 Shawn
 Sent from my white Mac Book
  
 
  installing extensions in Safari
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com Sep 05 04:22PM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
  
 I just tried to install an extension in Safari. Somehow I screwed it up, 
 because after that, Safari would give me the busy message every time I 
 pressed a key. Happily, I hadn't yet installed the latest update to ML, and 
 when I did that, the problem went away. So, can someone enlighten me as to 
 the correct way to install an extension?
 thanks in advance,
 Donna
  
 
  enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem:
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Sep 05 04:46PM -0400  
 
 Hi Anne,
  
 It's chenelle, I am in need of some assistance with accessing materials off 
 of a school website using voice over? with adobie acrobat reader. i was 
 wondering if you could possibly email me off list.
 my email address is: filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
 i really appreciate your assistancew in this very important matter.
 sincerely, chenelle
 p.s. i will email you with further details off list.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
  help pls with streaming music to airport express with voiceover on
 William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com Sep 05 10:33PM +0200  
 
 Hello,
 I had problems with streaming music to me airport express.
 The music was streaming from my macbook air with osx 10.8.1 with iTunes 
 10.6.3 and airport express version 7.6.1.
 The problem: there where regularly interruptions in the played music.
 This wasn't happening when voiceover wasn't on (and not only when voiceover 
 wasn't speaking).
  
 So, on the macbook air, with voiceover off : no problems but when I turned 
 voiceover on, there where breaks in the stream.
  
  
 Streaming from the iphone4/ipad2 was also fine.
  
  
 Does this make sense?
  
 any hints are very welcome.
 Kind regards,
 William
  
 
  Updating Adobe Flash Player
 Mary Scott bluespru...@comcast.net Sep 05 03:23PM -0400  
 
 I need to update my flash player How do I do this?
  
 
 Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com Sep 05 12:44PM -0700  
 
 in safari, there will be an adobe flash updater that will pop up.
 I think you could also go under system and flash player.
  
  
  
 Sent from my macbook pro.
 Chris Bruinenberg
  
  
  
 
  Bard download Question
 Robert

voices for the mack?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that one 
could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

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   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 dumb mail question [2 Updates]
 a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
 Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
 Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
 Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
 1password accessibility [1 Update]
 Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
 there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
 TextEdit question [5 Updates]
  dumb mail question
 Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com Aug 23 03:52PM -0400  
 
 Hi.
 What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to consistently 
 open a web URL insight email?
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:10PM -0400  
 
 Hi,
  
 I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If that 
 fails you, do the same but instead of pressing VO space, press VO shift M to 
 bring up the context menu and select to open link or something like that.
  
 hth
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
  a new little thing about Mountain Lion
 Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:15PM -0400  
 
 Well, they finally did it!
  
 Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally 
 give you a progress report.
  
 Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.
  
 Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 23 03:18PM -0500  
 
 So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using 
 bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
  
 
 Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com Aug 23 04:30PM -0400  
 
 You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too have vm 
 ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set a vm of Windows 
 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I heard... but 
 then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, huh.
  
 Anyways...
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
 Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
  
  
  
 
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:09PM +0100  
 
 Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp 
 at some stage. Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
  
  
 
 christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Aug 23 10:10PM +0100  
 
 Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
 On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:
  
  
 
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 23 05:19PM -0400  
 
 Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.
  
 CB
  
 On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Aug 23 06:04PM -0400  
 
 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
 bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the installation 
 of windows accessible.
  
 Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
 Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com Aug 23 05:08PM -0500  
 
 You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs accessible,
 since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of bootcamp.
 Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the first
 time ever that's accessible during install.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
  
 I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the
 bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the
 installation of windows accessible.
  
 Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, christopher hallsworth
  
  Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. Thanks!On 
  23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
  
  So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
 using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
  
  Skype name:
  barefootedray
  
  On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton joseph.nor...@gmail.com
 

embosser question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

 to the
 website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been working
 great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update status
 field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box that is
 in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the Combo Box
 tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. I said ok
 let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and guess what
 same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box there.
 Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The
 people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the
 same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone who
 works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They could
 be the worst company out there along with ESPN who have made no effort
 to make their site better compatabile with screen readers.
  
 
  Mountain Lion User Administration
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 09:35AM -0700  
 
 You might try some command line tools from the terminal with an admin
 equipped user. Example:
 type 'passwd USER' where USER is the ID you're trying to fix. You
 should be prompted for a new user. Try entering a new password and
 see if it takes OK. You won't get any messages if successful. Then
 from a non-admin user, try something like
 su - USER
 With this, you should receive a password prompt and if you enter
 correctly and if the password is good, you should be logged into a
 command shell for that user. All this effort will be helpful in
 debugging and determining if the account is good or not.
  
 Forgive me, but I'm a linux geek and all this unix stuff comes in
 handy to trouble shoot system problems like this. You can also work
 with file permissions and bulk file manipulations too.
  
  
 
  Arranging Listbox
 Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name Aug 22 08:03AM -0400  
 
 Hi all,
  
 When I am in the open file dialogue box of Textedit the results showing in 
 the listbox are sorted in reverse alphabetic order. I am trying to change 
 this to be alphabetic order by hitting [vo][backslash]. This is not having 
 any affect. Can anybody offer any suggestions on making this happen?
  
 Thx,
 Jeff
  
 
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 22 09:46AM -0400  
 
 Column sort on a table is VO-| or pipe. Is the shifted version of the \ 
 key right above the return key.
  
 http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1133.html
  
 CB
  
 On 8/22/12 8:03 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
  
 
 Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name Aug 22 12:13PM -0400  
 
 Unfortunately, this did not work. I had my mother-in-law look at it and 
 apparently, the option to change the order is blanked out. I must have a 
 problem with my TextEdit application.
 Off to Google a solution.
 Jef
  
 
  louie for the mack?
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Aug 22 12:48AM -0400  
 
 Hi everyone,
  
 i just downloaded louie for the mack earlier this evening onto my mack book 
 pro. i wanted to know how accessable was it? and would it be conpadible with 
 my romeo embosser? also does it happen to do double sided braille? also does 
 it do grade 2 contractual braille?. i am taking a personal trainers 
 certification course over the internet and i wanted to know how accessable it 
 would be translating my printed  text to braille?. thanks so much for your 
 help i most greatly appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Aug 22 12:52AM -0400  
 
 i am considering getting a braille pen 12 portable display. i wanted to know 
 has anyone ever used it and if so did they use it with their mack?
 tahnks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com Aug 22 06:33AM -0400  
 
 Hi, I mostly use braille pen with IOS devices. It's sheer smallness makes it 
 less than ideal as a primary display for a computer.
  
 Best,
  
 Erik Burggraaf
 Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at 
 $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
  
 On 2012-08-22, at 12:52 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
  
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Aug 22 12:02PM -0400  
 
 One thing to remember is that the Braille Pen does not have cursor
 keys, at least as far as I know. So, to put your cursor where you want
 it for editing, you would have to use key commands, which gets
 cumbersome.
  
  
 -- 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
  Can't see iCloud button in Pages on my iPad
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 07:05AM -0700  
 
 Problem here is sandboxing. This means anything created in Textedit can only 
 be accessed by other machines running Textedit. Further problem here is 
 Textedit isn't available on IOS. So stuff created in Textedit can only

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 10 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 return on that VO is reading me, sends a response
 to someone I read like four or five tweets ago. I know that might not
 have been described the best way. What I am asking, is have you found
 a great way to retweet and respond to people using VO, or the quick
 nav, I find I have to turn quick nav off and sometimes this help
 focurs on the tweet I want to interact with, but not all the time.
 Thanks
  
  
 
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 11:44AM -0700  
 
 First of all, I never have quick nav on while in anything that does
 not use HTML so when using Yorufukurou, make sure quick nav is turned
 off. Also, I had the same issues but when I uninteract with the list
 of tweets, I can arrow up and down *without* VO modifiers I can then
 act upon the right tweet every time.
  
 HTH.
  
  
 
  Firefox and Webvisum Keyboard Shortcuts?
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 11:37AM -0700  
 
 What I recall from my use of this on Linux is the Solve CAPTCHA
 option can actually be found in the Tools menu. Is it not there in
 the Mac version? I haven't done anything with this on the Mac yet.
  
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 22 01:43PM -0500  
 
 As a rule, Mac apps tend not to have a tools menu; but, this differs from app 
 to app. Perhaps it's in the tool bar maybe?
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
  
 
  Podcast App for Mac
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 11:34AM -0700  
 
 This sounds really cool! All he would need to do after that is set up
 iCloud access so we could sync up our shows between the iToys and the
 Mac. I would *LOVE* that.
  
  
 
  embosser question:
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Aug 22 01:49PM -0400  
 
 hi all,
 i have an romeo embosser and it is only 2, years old. i want to use it with 
 louie for the mack, however, my romeo embosser drivers are for windows xp. so 
 where would i have to go or what  would i have to do in order for me to set 
 up my romeo embosser on my mack?
 thanks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com Aug 22 02:05PM -0400  
 
 Hi, You need a usb to serial adapter. Then you need to plug the serial cable 
 from the romeo in. The newer one probably has a usb port, but it should have 
 a serial as well. Louis hasn't been developed in 5 years. Most of us are 
 poised on the brink of braille blaster. It is highly betaish but they are 
 developing on it daily and soon it will be ready for the bold and brave, if 
 not for primetime.
  
 Best,
  
 Erik Burggraaf
 Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at 
 $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
  
 On 2012-08-22, at 1:49 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
  
  
 
  Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza?
 Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com Aug 22 07:39PM +0200  
 
 Hi,
 Subject says it all really. I'm wondering if anyone on the list uses Stanza 
 under Mountain Lion and if there's a working version out there to download? 
 There was a discussion on the list a while back, but i didn't follow it then 
 because i wasn't interested at the time but then a friend aksed me if i had a 
 link, because the links he had gotten didn't work. I saw some links given 
 here, but when i followed them to download Stanza, the app reported itself as 
 broken and it couldn't be used and the only option was to throw it in the 
 bin. So is there a working version of Stanza out there?
 /Krister
  
 
  Applications Not Coming Up with Cmd+Tab
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Aug 21 03:28PM -0700  
 
 Hey,
  
 I used to use command tab all the time, but since I set up keyboard
 commanders to launch programs I find that works much faster for
 examples I use the right control key and hit S to bring up safari. I
 changed Mail to use the Z key since I go there a lot and just now have
 to hit the right control key and Z pretty much for the most part have
 set up keys for all the programs I use a lot. To access the keyboard
 commanders go to the VO Utility by clicking VO F8 Hope this helps even
 though it wasn't what you asked for.
  
 On Aug 21, 12:11 am, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
 
  ,delet+ ,bookmks 9 ,safi8
 tealgree...@gmail.com tealgree...@gmail.com Aug 21 03:02PM -0700  
 
 ,c so pl1se tell me h{ ,i c g ab delet+ bookmks 9 ,safi8 ,any help is 
 grtly appreciat$4
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Aug 21 06:24PM -0400  
 
 Allow me to translate:
 Can someone please tell me how to go about deleting bookmarks in
 Safari? Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
  
 -- 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 10 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 read like four or five tweets ago. I know that might not
 have been described the best way. What I am asking, is have you found
 a great way to retweet and respond to people using VO, or the quick
 nav, I find I have to turn quick nav off and sometimes this help
 focurs on the tweet I want to interact with, but not all the time.
 Thanks
  
  
 
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 11:44AM -0700  
 
 First of all, I never have quick nav on while in anything that does
 not use HTML so when using Yorufukurou, make sure quick nav is turned
 off. Also, I had the same issues but when I uninteract with the list
 of tweets, I can arrow up and down *without* VO modifiers I can then
 act upon the right tweet every time.
  
 HTH.
  
  
 
  Firefox and Webvisum Keyboard Shortcuts?
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 11:37AM -0700  
 
 What I recall from my use of this on Linux is the Solve CAPTCHA
 option can actually be found in the Tools menu. Is it not there in
 the Mac version? I haven't done anything with this on the Mac yet.
  
  
 
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Aug 22 01:43PM -0500  
 
 As a rule, Mac apps tend not to have a tools menu; but, this differs from app 
 to app. Perhaps it's in the tool bar maybe?
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
  
 
  Podcast App for Mac
 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com Aug 22 11:34AM -0700  
 
 This sounds really cool! All he would need to do after that is set up
 iCloud access so we could sync up our shows between the iToys and the
 Mac. I would *LOVE* that.
  
  
 
  embosser question:
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Aug 22 01:49PM -0400  
 
 hi all,
 i have an romeo embosser and it is only 2, years old. i want to use it with 
 louie for the mack, however, my romeo embosser drivers are for windows xp. so 
 where would i have to go or what  would i have to do in order for me to set 
 up my romeo embosser on my mack?
 thanks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com Aug 22 02:05PM -0400  
 
 Hi, You need a usb to serial adapter. Then you need to plug the serial cable 
 from the romeo in. The newer one probably has a usb port, but it should have 
 a serial as well. Louis hasn't been developed in 5 years. Most of us are 
 poised on the brink of braille blaster. It is highly betaish but they are 
 developing on it daily and soon it will be ready for the bold and brave, if 
 not for primetime.
  
 Best,
  
 Erik Burggraaf
 Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at 
 $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
  
 On 2012-08-22, at 1:49 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
  
  
 
  Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza?
 Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com Aug 22 07:39PM +0200  
 
 Hi,
 Subject says it all really. I'm wondering if anyone on the list uses Stanza 
 under Mountain Lion and if there's a working version out there to download? 
 There was a discussion on the list a while back, but i didn't follow it then 
 because i wasn't interested at the time but then a friend aksed me if i had a 
 link, because the links he had gotten didn't work. I saw some links given 
 here, but when i followed them to download Stanza, the app reported itself as 
 broken and it couldn't be used and the only option was to throw it in the 
 bin. So is there a working version of Stanza out there?
 /Krister
  
 
  Applications Not Coming Up with Cmd+Tab
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Aug 21 03:28PM -0700  
 
 Hey,
  
 I used to use command tab all the time, but since I set up keyboard
 commanders to launch programs I find that works much faster for
 examples I use the right control key and hit S to bring up safari. I
 changed Mail to use the Z key since I go there a lot and just now have
 to hit the right control key and Z pretty much for the most part have
 set up keys for all the programs I use a lot. To access the keyboard
 commanders go to the VO Utility by clicking VO F8 Hope this helps even
 though it wasn't what you asked for.
  
 On Aug 21, 12:11 am, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
 
  ,delet+ ,bookmks 9 ,safi8
 tealgree...@gmail.com tealgree...@gmail.com Aug 21 03:02PM -0700  
 
 ,c so pl1se tell me h{ ,i c g ab delet+ bookmks 9 ,safi8 ,any help is 
 grtly appreciat$4
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Aug 21 06:24PM -0400  
 
 Allow me to translate:
 Can someone please tell me how to go about deleting bookmarks in
 Safari? Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
  
 -- 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
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louie for the mack?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi everyone,

 i  just downloaded louie for the mack earlier this evening  onto  my mack book 
pro. i wanted to know how accessable was it? and  would it be  conpadible with 
my romeo embosser? also does it happen to  do double sided  braille?  also does 
it do  grade 2  contractual braille?. i am taking  a personal trainers 
certification course over the internet and i wanted to know how accessable it 
would be translating my printed  text to braille?. thanks so much for your help 
i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/08/2012, at 0:02, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Badges in YoruFukurou [3 Updates]
 Mouse right click [8 Updates]
 quick ftp option in ml? [2 Updates]
 Deleting Bookmarks [2 Updates]
 Speakable Items staying on [2 Updates]
 viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader [1 Update]
 A better way to drag and drop [3 Updates]
 moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?] [4 Updates]
  Badges in YoruFukurou
 Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com Aug 21 03:45PM -0700  
 
 Turn off real-time streaming in preferences, under the general button. It's a 
 checkbox that says enable real-time streaming. 
  
  
 
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Aug 21 06:56PM -0700  
 
 Thanks so much Rachel, just got it turned off. Will have to see if
 that gets rid of the busy messages. Only other question, if real time
 streaming is turned off how does your timeline refresh and do you need
 to hit a command like command R to refesh your timeline? Thanks again
  
  
 
 Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com Aug 21 08:54PM -0700  
 
 Hi Brian,
  
 i'm very glad this worked for you! And you can set your timeline to refresh 
 in intervals of whatever you want. Usually a minute seems to work well 
 enough. If you want it to refresh more, then you can manually refresh all 
 tabs by pressing command+shift+R.
 Or just command+R to refresh the current tab.
  
  
 
  Mouse right click
 Mary Scott bluespru...@comcast.net Aug 21 06:16PM -0400  
 
 Hi all, My sighted helpers are often asking me, How do I right click with 
 VO? Will somebody tell me the correct answer? Mel
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Aug 21 06:22PM -0400  
 
 Most of the time, vo-shift-m does the trick. If you need to simulate
 an actual right click, or ctrl-click, you can do it. Unfortunately, I
 don't remember the exact keystroke for this, but key describer should
 help when you consider that vo-shift-space is a left click.
  
  
 -- 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com Aug 22 08:31AM +1000  
 
 Hi, probably I am wrong as I don't have my Mac yet.
 I think I read
  
 vo-shift- and space twice quickly
 Max.
  
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: Mouse right click
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:37 -0400
  
 
 Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com Aug 21 08:11PM -0400  
 
 VO does not have a keystroke assigned to Right Mouse Click.
 However, you can issue the command by VO H H, then type the word right. 
 Pressing enter on the command in the help commands list will invoke the 
 command.
  
 Otherwise, if you really need it, you can assign the command to one of your 
 commanders.
  
 Wow, I don't think I ever wrote the word command so many times. :)
  
 HTH. 
 Rodney
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Aug 21 07:15PM -0600  
 
 Hi,
  
 VO-shift-m brings up the Contextual menu for a given item. These wil be the 
 same options as a sighted user will see when they right-click. There are some 
 situations where the VO-shift-m will not bring up the Contextual menu but in 
 those limited cases, you can route the mouse to the VO cursor, VO-cmd-f5, 
 hold down the control key and press your Trackpad button.
  
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
 Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net Aug 21 08:17PM -0500  
 
 There is no voice over command for right clicking the mouse, however, 
 pressing vo shift M on an item should open the context menu for it, that's 
 also what right clicking the mouse does.
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote:
  
  
 
 Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Aug 21 11:07PM -0400  
 
 Hi,. 
  
 What button are you talking about? I have a magic trackpad and do not have 
 any button to my knowledge.. 
  
 Thanks,. 
  
 Ioana 
  
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
 stores.
 Sent from my phone
  
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Aug 21 09:31PM -0600  
 
 The Magic Trackpad is just like a MacBook or MacBook Pro Trackpad. It just 
 gives you the same functionality with a Desktop unit. If you press down on a 
 MacBook Trackpad,you'll feel a sort of click which when fully depressed, is 
 the mouse-down action. Holding it down performs the dragging action. The 
 Magic Trackpad has 

the braille pen 12 question:Hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i am considering getting a braille pen 12 portable display. i wanted to know 
has anyone ever  used it and if so did they use it with their mack?
tahnks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/08/2012, at 0:02, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Badges in YoruFukurou [3 Updates]
 Mouse right click [8 Updates]
 quick ftp option in ml? [2 Updates]
 Deleting Bookmarks [2 Updates]
 Speakable Items staying on [2 Updates]
 viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader [1 Update]
 A better way to drag and drop [3 Updates]
 moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?] [4 Updates]
  Badges in YoruFukurou
 Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com Aug 21 03:45PM -0700  
 
 Turn off real-time streaming in preferences, under the general button. It's a 
 checkbox that says enable real-time streaming. 
  
  
 
 Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com Aug 21 06:56PM -0700  
 
 Thanks so much Rachel, just got it turned off. Will have to see if
 that gets rid of the busy messages. Only other question, if real time
 streaming is turned off how does your timeline refresh and do you need
 to hit a command like command R to refesh your timeline? Thanks again
  
  
 
 Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com Aug 21 08:54PM -0700  
 
 Hi Brian,
  
 i'm very glad this worked for you! And you can set your timeline to refresh 
 in intervals of whatever you want. Usually a minute seems to work well 
 enough. If you want it to refresh more, then you can manually refresh all 
 tabs by pressing command+shift+R.
 Or just command+R to refresh the current tab.
  
  
 
  Mouse right click
 Mary Scott bluespru...@comcast.net Aug 21 06:16PM -0400  
 
 Hi all, My sighted helpers are often asking me, How do I right click with 
 VO? Will somebody tell me the correct answer? Mel
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Aug 21 06:22PM -0400  
 
 Most of the time, vo-shift-m does the trick. If you need to simulate
 an actual right click, or ctrl-click, you can do it. Unfortunately, I
 don't remember the exact keystroke for this, but key describer should
 help when you consider that vo-shift-space is a left click.
  
  
 -- 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com Aug 22 08:31AM +1000  
 
 Hi, probably I am wrong as I don't have my Mac yet.
 I think I read
  
 vo-shift- and space twice quickly
 Max.
  
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: Mouse right click
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:37 -0400
  
 
 Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com Aug 21 08:11PM -0400  
 
 VO does not have a keystroke assigned to Right Mouse Click.
 However, you can issue the command by VO H H, then type the word right. 
 Pressing enter on the command in the help commands list will invoke the 
 command.
  
 Otherwise, if you really need it, you can assign the command to one of your 
 commanders.
  
 Wow, I don't think I ever wrote the word command so many times. :)
  
 HTH. 
 Rodney
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Aug 21 07:15PM -0600  
 
 Hi,
  
 VO-shift-m brings up the Contextual menu for a given item. These wil be the 
 same options as a sighted user will see when they right-click. There are some 
 situations where the VO-shift-m will not bring up the Contextual menu but in 
 those limited cases, you can route the mouse to the VO cursor, VO-cmd-f5, 
 hold down the control key and press your Trackpad button.
  
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
  
  
 
 Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net Aug 21 08:17PM -0500  
 
 There is no voice over command for right clicking the mouse, however, 
 pressing vo shift M on an item should open the context menu for it, that's 
 also what right clicking the mouse does.
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote:
  
  
 
 Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Aug 21 11:07PM -0400  
 
 Hi,. 
  
 What button are you talking about? I have a magic trackpad and do not have 
 any button to my knowledge.. 
  
 Thanks,. 
  
 Ioana 
  
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
 stores.
 Sent from my phone
  
  
 
 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Aug 21 09:31PM -0600  
 
 The Magic Trackpad is just like a MacBook or MacBook Pro Trackpad. It just 
 gives you the same functionality with a Desktop unit. If you press down on a 
 MacBook Trackpad,you'll feel a sort of click which when fully depressed, is 
 the mouse-down action. Holding it down performs the dragging action. The 
 Magic Trackpad has exactly the same functionality. Pressing firmly down 
 anywhere on the Trackpad will cause the Magic Trackpad to give a click sort 
 of feel where you can distinguish between the mouse-down and regular 
 gesture modes. So, in effect, the entire Trackpad in both cases is a button.
  
 Hope this clears things up for you.
  

how do you burn a movie from your itunes library?hi everyone,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i wanted to know how do you  burn  a movie from your itunes library? i 
purchased it on  itunes and i want to burn it into a  cd. 
thanks so much for your help i  greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 multiple messages from macvisionaries group [3 Updates]
 Having Mail not automatically mark a message as read when I move to it [1 
 Update]
 converting iphone video to...anything? [1 Update]
 Question About Built-In MBP Keyboard [1 Update]
 Dropbox under Lion [2 Updates]
 Using Boot Camp [3 Updates]
 iWork Help [8 Updates]
 sort of figured out GarageBand [4 Updates]
 question about recording with mac [2 Updates]
  multiple messages from macvisionaries group
 Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com Aug 13 10:03PM +0100  
 
 Hello Everyone,
  
 I've already asked before about the problem of receiving multiple copies of 
 messages from macvisionaries group. Harry has offered me suggestions to do 
 with labels in gmail (which is the mail provider for me) but they haven't 
 sold the problem. I vaguely seem to remember that I had the same issue under 
 Lion but I can't remember how I had solved it then. I seem to receive two 
 copies of each message in my inbox. Please help if you have any ideas.
  
 With best wishes and thanks
  
 Andrew
  
 
 Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Aug 13 05:05PM -0400  
 
 Hi,
  
 It would be interesting to check what settings do using Gmail. I also use 
 labels in Gmail and never received any duplicates of the messages in my 
 inbox. Good luck
 Ioana
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
  
  
 
 Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com Aug 13 10:31PM +0100  
 
 Hello Iona,
  
 I am so puzzled about this because since upgrading to Mountain Lion, I get 
 these duplicate messages in macvisionaries group as well as the iPhone group. 
 This did not happen before the upgrade. I did not think labels would be a 
 problem but I have removed them anyway in case, especially that Harry 
 suggested it and it had a positive effect for him. I have been looking for a 
 clue in my gmail setting but I haven't found anything so far. 
  
 Best wishes
  
 Andrew
  
 
  Having Mail not automatically mark a message as read when I move to it
 Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com Aug 13 05:03PM -0400  
 
 Hi
  
 Just a quick note to say that you can hide the preview pane also by using 
 keyboard shortcuts. There have been posts to that effect on the list also. If 
 anybody wants me to write steps just let me know.
  
 Take care,
  
 Ioana
  
 Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
 stores.
  
  
 
  converting iphone video to...anything?
 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Aug 13 04:56PM -0400  
 
 Hi folks,
 forgive me if I do not ask this with the correct lingo.
 Today would have been my late father's 85th birthday. he passed last year 
 and we ere very close.
 My niece just sent me some video she shot with her iphone of my 
 dad...obviously I would appreciate a chance to enjoy. I have no iphone 
 though, and my mac is still doing os 9.22...not that I want to watch it so 
 much.
 My desire is to convert the file into something else, mp4 mp3 aif, 
 anything.
 how can this be done?
 Thanks in advance,
 Karen
  
 
  Question About Built-In MBP Keyboard
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Aug 13 04:44PM -0400  
 
 That feature was dropped from MacBooks some time ago but I'm guessing 
 you could reproduce that with a keyboard remapper. Other sites recommended
  
 http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/index.html
  
 but I've never used it.
  
 CB
  
 On 8/9/12 5:10 PM, Gavin Grundlingh wrote:
  
 
  Dropbox under Lion
 Chris christopher...@gmail.com Aug 13 08:28PM +0100  
 
 Hello all.
 Under Lion, is the Dropbox client accessible? I have heard it is in 
 Mountain Lion, but what about just Lion? I must stress Lion as this 
 question is for Mr Price who will be shortly receiving a 13 inch Macbook 
 2008 model running Lion and therefore cannot be upgraded to Mountain Lion.
 Please reply as soon as possible. Thanks!
  
 
 Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com Aug 13 03:39PM -0400  
 
 Chris,
  
 No, the client is not accessible as far as I know, under Lion. The way
 I used it was through Finder. Open the ffolder directly, copy and
 paste files and such, and VO Shift M on a file will give you good
 options as well once the file is in the Dropbox folder.
  
 HTH.
 -Rodney
  
  
  
 
  Using Boot Camp
 Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net Aug 13 02:10PM -0500  
 
 Hello Alex. So if I have my Bootcamp partition booted I can navigate to say
 my hd partition and read the file or copy it. I just can't write to it from
 the Bootcamp partition or do anything with folders except copy them to the
 Bootcamp? Are my assumptions correct?
  
 Thanks so much.
  
 

re: what scanning software is compadable with the mack?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi  anne,

thanks so much for the  advice i really do appreciate it.  however, do abby 
find reader or doc you scan cost anything and how much  would they both be to 
purchase  if i had to get either one or the other?.
 thanks so much again for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

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mountain lion issues:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,
 
I  just installed mountain lion  earlier this morning  at around 4:30  am. I t 
took me about 2/2  hours  from downloading  until   m.l.  had  downloaded and 
installed onto my mackbook pro.
however,  my question  is, after downloading m.l.  onto the mack?  Where  do 
you go to  set up your twitter account? or do you  just have to download it to 
your  mack in order to  set up the  short cut keystroke commands? i have not 
tried going into the  the system preferences application  and then into  the  
dictation  application to set up my  dictation v.o. ket stroke commands. I  
also purchased the flexy application for my i phone  earlier this morning as 
well  and that works  terrifically.
thanks  so much for your help i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely chenelle

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notification question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

I will be purchasing mountain lion next wednesday. I wanted to know!  when you 
get to the  field w where  you have to inter  your short cut key stroke, do you 
 just spell out  every word or do you have to put the plus or  minus  sign 
insde of the field? This will be the first time that i actually  create a short 
cut key  stroke   for any of my  applications etc.
any help that i  could get in walking me through this process i would most 
greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle
 thanis again everyone for your help.

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voice over voices inside mountain lion:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,
I wanted to know if  mountain lion would have any know voice over voices? or  
are we just stuck with the  usual voices that are on the mack?.  also  is there 
a way that one could  change the voice from american english to brittish 
english or austraillian english?
thanks a log i really appreciate it. 
sincerely, chenelle

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[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all

Where do I. Go to change my voice to brittish or austraillian?.
Thanks
Sincerely chenelle

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On 26 Jul 2012, at 20:46, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Need to change email of my subscription to this list [1 Update]
 Imessagin in Mountain Lion [1 Update]
 voice over voices inside mountain lion: [4 Updates]
 notification question: [2 Updates]
 Can't quite figure out how to send a message and message [3 Updates]
 installing ml on omputers with different apple id question [1 Update]
 Drop Box issues [2 Updates]
 Help calling apple please [1 Update]
 1 Message Conversation? [1 Update]
 where are my contacts? [9 Updates]
  Need to change email of my subscription to this list
 Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com Jul 26 08:38PM -0400  
 
 Hi folks:
  
 I'm switching to ATT Uverse tomorrow and I need to switch my subscription to 
 this and the VIphone list to a new email address. Does anyone have Raul's 
 email address so I can email him directly to get this done? 
  
 Thanks much!
  
 
  Imessagin in Mountain Lion
 Kamal Haffar khaf...@gmail.com Jul 26 08:32PM -0400  
 
 Hi all:
  
  
 After composing a message in the Messaging app in Mountain Lion, how do 
 you send it? Is there a sent button somewhere?
  
 Cheers,
 Kamal
  
 
  voice over voices inside mountain lion:
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Jul 26 07:13PM -0400  
 
 Hi all,
 I wanted to know if mountain lion would have any know voice over voices? or 
 are we just stuck with the usual voices that are on the mack?. also is there 
 a way that one could change the voice from american english to brittish 
 english or austraillian english?
 thanks a log i really appreciate it. 
 sincerely, chenelle
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 
 Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Jul 26 04:28PM -0700  
 
 Yes, there are different voices with Mountain Lion that you can download. 
 Yes, you can switch to British, Australian or even SOuth African or Indian 
 English.  
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
 Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com Jul 26 07:53PM -0400  
 
 Are these new to Mountain Lion, or are they the Nuance voices Lion introduced?
  
  
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 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
 mehg...@gmail.com
  
 
 Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Jul 26 05:25PM -0700  
 
 I skipped over lion (it was sleeping and I didn't wanna wake it up?). The 
 voices are new to me.
  
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
  notification question:
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Jul 26 07:06PM -0400  
 
 Hi all,
  
 I will be purchasing mountain lion next wednesday. I wanted to know! when you 
 get to the field w where you have to inter your short cut key stroke, do you 
 just spell out every word or do you have to put the plus or minus sign insde 
 of the field? This will be the first time that i actually create a short cut 
 key stroke for any of my applications etc.
 any help that i could get in walking me through this process i would most 
 greatly appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle
 thanis again everyone for your help.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 
 Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com Jul 27 11:55AM +1200  
 
 Hi Chenelle 
 Just press the actual keys you want to use for the short cut. I held down 
 command option and then added the n. You may even be able to press them all 
 at once but I held down the first two and then added the third, then let them 
 all go.
 It really is easy. You won't hear any feedback, but if you vo left and then 
 right again you will hear the keystroke you just entered spoken.
  
 Good luck.
  
 Lisette
  
  
 
  Can't quite figure out how to send a message and message
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Jul 26 06:39PM -0500  
 
 Hello there. When I going to messages, I can select the recipient to whom I 
 wish to send a message. However, when I'm finished typing the message, I 
 can't quite figure out how to send it. Is it option plus escape? Thanks.
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
 
 Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com Jul 26 04:46PM -0700  
 
 I just pressed enter, but I typed in the phone number to send to in my case.
  
 
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:39 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Can't quite figure out how to send a message and message
  
 
  
 Hello there. When I going to messages, I can select the recipient to whom I
 wish to send a message. However, when I'm finished typing the message, I
 can't

connecting the braille sense you too to the mack book pro?Hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

 the macmall, try googling it, or 
 http://www.appleinsider.com they have discounted pricing on some mac models.
 On 2012-07-15, at 9:09 PM, Dan Rathburn wrote:
  
  
 
 Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com Jul 15 10:17PM -0400  
 
 Hi. Mac mall is a good source as was previously mentioned. In case you
 might be interested, I'm selling a mint Mac book pro 15 inch I7 quad
 core and an eight core upgraded mac pro desktop with flat panel
 display etc. Please write me off list for complete specs etc.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Cameron.
  
  
  
  
 
 Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com Jul 16 06:51AM -0500  
 
 Hi:
 Try Ebay and Amazon.
 On Jul 15, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Dan Rathburn wrote:
  
  
 
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com Jul 16 10:39AM -0400  
 
 You might want to poke around the Megamacs.com site. While I haven't 
 bought a used Mac from them I have bought other stuff.
  
 I had tried eBay in the past but there were crazy people on there who 
 were bidding up used stuff to near the price of new. So last time I was 
 trying to buy a laptop I eventually gave up on eBay and just bought one 
 through the Apple store at roughly the same price as eBay. The good news 
 is that used Apple hardware seems to keep its value. That's bad news 
 though if you're trying to buy.
  
 CB
  
 On 7/16/12 7:51 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
  
 
  Lion, open with, unexpected behavior
 Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net Jul 16 08:26AM +0200  
 
 Hi John and Anne,
  
 John: did you switch off cursor tracking? Press VO + Shift + F3 to switch it 
 on again.
  
 All the best
 Jürgen
 Am 15.07.2012 um 22:52 schrieb Anne Robertson:
  
  
 
 John Sanfilippo vze33...@verizon.net Jul 16 08:23AM -0400  
 
 Yeah, it turns out that switching to list view solved my problem. Sigh, what 
 a maze!
  
 Thanks for the help.
  
 js
  
  
  
 On Jul 16, 2012, at 2:26 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
  
 Hi John and Anne,
  
 John: did you switch off cursor tracking? Press VO + Shift + F3 to switch it 
 on again.
  
 All the best
 Jürgen
 Am 15.07.2012 um 22:52 schrieb Anne Robertson:
  
  
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  ogg to mp3 converter
 Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com Jul 16 01:08AM -0500  
 
 Hello; well, i haven't needed to use my copy of max since buying my new 
 macbook pro, so i was surprised when it informed me that it cannot rip ogg 
 files. so, what is my next easiest option for converting ogg to mp3? I'm 
 running lion of course, and it would be nice if it could do batch processing. 
 thanks for any help, max
  
 
  Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 11 Topics
 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Jul 15 06:08PM -0400  
 
 hi anne,
 thank you so much for all of the help with using pages on my i-phone. i most 
 greatly appreciate it.
 sincerely, chenelle.
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com Jul 15 10:36PM -0500  
 
 Hey Sarah. Have you tried the Acapela voices? I'm using Tracy at this moment 
 and she sounds pretty clear, and actually, more calmer than any female voice 
 out there. Give her a try.
  
 Shawn
 On 2012-07-15, at 4:30 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
  
 
  Problems with Arrow Keys in Fusion
 tealgree...@gmail.com Jul 15 06:15PM -0700  
 
 Hello List,
  
 
  
 I am hoping for some solutions to my problem. Often times when I use the
 left and right arrow keys in Windows, it seems that my cursor it is issuing
 multiple keystrokes even when pressed only once. This also applies to my
 backspace key and will delete more than I requested. Any help is
 appreciated.
  
 
  Log-in Password on Macbook Pro
 Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com Jul 16 12:03AM +0100  
 
 Daniel,
  
 That is a good idea. I was certainly thinking about upgrading although I 
 know some people prefer to wait. However, my MBP is working now well enough 
 (i hope) for me to wait until Mountain Lion is released. I would probably 
 have not been able to get Lion re-installed for a week or so anyway.
  
 Thank you very much for your suggestion.
  
 Chris
  
  
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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 Subject: Re: Log-in Password on Macbook Pro
  
  
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using pages on the i-phone 4.s.Hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

 i just purchased pages for my i-phone 4.s. and   it seems to lock up  when i 
am using it with voice over. Is there  something that i should do  before using 
pages with voice over? i have to  power off my phone in order for voice to  
work again. 
if someone could help em with this plight i would most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 9 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i wanted to let everyone know that today i went  to an apple hiring event here 
in cleveland ohio. they were hiring  for three of their stores. after attending 
their hiring event earlier this afternoon. i had received a call back for a 
second interview which  will  be held  at the legacy village location tomorrow 
afternoon at 3:30 pm.  i hope that i am able to  get  an  opertunity to  work 
at apple inc... I  am over the moon right now! i do not know what to do with 
myself either. i feel like i am on top of the moon right now. i was the  only 
person that was visually impaired  that was in the room and the legacy vbillage 
were completely inpressed with me while i was at this event earlier today.
 sincerely, chenelle

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 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Shortwave? [5 Updates]
 Carbonite [1 Update]
 I'm loving this Airport Extreme Already [3 Updates]
 Accessible Fruitmachine is published [7 Updates]
 language [3 Updates]
 Mackeeper [1 Update]
 Using VLC to play streaming audio? [3 Updates]
 Playlists in VLC? [1 Update]
 please consider cleaning your mac from junk. [1 Update]
  Shortwave?
 Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com May 14 04:03PM -0400  
 
 hello guys.
  
 this may seem like a really stupid question, but is there an app either for 
 the Mac, or for the iPhone, preferably for the iPhone, that would allow me to 
 listen to shortwave radio. I do have Wunder radio, and bunches of other apps, 
 however, I have yet to find a particular app that will actually allow me to 
 listen to shortwave radio. most of the apps that I use will allow me to 
 listen both to FM as well as a.m. radio. That is however it. if anyone knows 
 of anything, I would be very interested.
  
 thank you much.
  
 chris.
  
 
 Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com May 14 05:29PM -0400  
 
 You mean actually picking up and tuning in shortwave radio on your 
 phone? I suspect that isn't possible because the antennas in your phone 
 are designed for the wifi and GSM frequency ranges, not shortwave. Also, 
 other than some really high-end digital tuners, most shortwave gear is 
 set up to 'tune' a particular subset of the shortwave radio frequency 
 range with a physical variable capacitor while the wifi and mobile 
 voice/data radio stuff is set to fixed frequencies. If they can't bake 
 in an FM tuner, I doubt they could do the more niche shortwave. Maybe 
 there is a re-broadcaster that streams something but other than the 
 current time and a few other common frequencies part of the fun of 
 shortwave was to see what you could pick up on a bounce from around the 
 world. The internet kind of took away the novelty of that phenomenon.
  
 CB
  
 On 5/14/12 4:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
  
 
 Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com May 14 02:39PM -0700  
 
 What we need is an app that lets us log onto a HAM radio, or a server that 
 controls one, tune it according to our license privileges, work the key or 
 mic directly, etc. 
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com May 14 06:06PM -0400  
 
 You're totally confused!
  
 I'm not wanting to literally pick up the frequency.
  
 I'm wanting an app that would let me stream short wave frequency broadcasts.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Shortwave?
  
  
 You mean actually picking up and tuning in shortwave radio on your
 phone? I suspect that isn't possible because the antennas in your phone
 are designed for the wifi and GSM frequency ranges, not shortwave. Also,
 other than some really high-end digital tuners, most shortwave gear is
 set up to 'tune' a particular subset of the shortwave radio frequency
 range with a physical variable capacitor while the wifi and mobile
 voice/data radio stuff is set to fixed frequencies. If they can't bake
 in an FM tuner, I doubt they could do the more niche shortwave. Maybe
 there is a re-broadcaster that streams something but other than the
 current time and a few other common frequencies part of the fun of
 shortwave was to see what you could pick up on a bounce from around the
 world. The internet kind of took away the novelty of that phenomenon.
  
 CB
  
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i-phone 4.s. problems:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
 for the past couple of days now whenever i am in an application trying to 
either download something or i am  reading something with voice over. voice 
over seems to stop working altogether and then i have to close out of the 
application and turn off the phone completely in order for it to work 
correctly. is there something  that i can do to  fix this problem of voice over 
stop working. it just freezes up altogether. can someone help me with this 
problem. i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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prizmo question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i just purchased the prizmo application over a week ago for my i-phone 4.s. and 
i wanted to know how do you delete  your text from the application?
thanks so much i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
 disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
 Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
 off topic! [3 Updates]
 Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
 Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
 A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
 Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
 Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
 e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
 Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
 
 I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
 that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
 I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
 all have the same names. 
  
 When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
 what's in it. 
  
 Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
  
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
 
 thanks, 
  
 Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
 that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
 one?
  
 I hate Itunes!
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
 
 hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
 time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
 using? lion or snow leopard?
  
 let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
 though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
 and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
  
 cheers
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Apr 08 12:30PM -0700
 
 I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
 can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
 negativity.  I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
 Lion.
  
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
 
 Hi Lu,
  
 I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
 than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
 to be patient. 
  
 for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
 so sorry for the post.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
 
 email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
  
 don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
  
 take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
 there by your side.
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
 
 Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
 regardless of OS.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
  disregard previous question about folders
 jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com Apr 08 01:54PM -0400  
 
 hello again after some more playing around I have figured it out thank you 
 all very much. jason
  
 
  Adding contacts to my mail program
 Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com Apr 08 12:29PM -0400  
 
 Hi Ricardo and everybody, happy Easter to everyone who celebrates., I 
 understand what you are saying, but I'm also talking about the ad contact 
 button I see in the mail program when you reply to someone. How does that 
 work I tried? I tried adding a contact by hitting the add add contact button, 
 but I don't know how that works it doesn't seem to work for me. Perhaps 
 someone can clearly up on this? Thanks so much have a great day, John
  
 Cakes
  
  
 
 jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com Apr 08 01:52PM -0400  
 
 hello, when you tap on the add a contact button on your email it should bring 
 you to the list of contacts that you have on your phone. after that all you 
 have to do 

how to create folders on your i-phone using v.o. commands?hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i wanted to know how do you  create folders for your applications using your 
b.o. key board commands?
thanks so much i really do appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
 disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
 Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
 off topic! [3 Updates]
 Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
 Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
 A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
 Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
 Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
 e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
 Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
 
 I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
 that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
 I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
 all have the same names. 
  
 When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
 what's in it. 
  
 Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
  
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
 
 thanks, 
  
 Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
 that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
 one?
  
 I hate Itunes!
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
 
 hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
 time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
 using? lion or snow leopard?
  
 let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
 though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
 and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
  
 cheers
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Apr 08 12:30PM -0700  
 
 I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
 can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
 negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
 Lion.
  
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
 
 Hi Lu,
  
 I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
 than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
 to be patient. 
  
 for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
 so sorry for the post.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
 
 email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
  
 don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
  
 take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
 there by your side.
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
 
 Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
 regardless of OS.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
  disregard previous question about folders
 jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com Apr 08 01:54PM -0400  
 
 hello again after some more playing around I have figured it out thank you 
 all very much. jason
  
 
  Adding contacts to my mail program
 Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com Apr 08 12:29PM -0400  
 
 Hi Ricardo and everybody, happy Easter to everyone who celebrates., I 
 understand what you are saying, but I'm also talking about the ad contact 
 button I see in the mail program when you reply to someone. How does that 
 work I tried? I tried adding a contact by hitting the add add contact button, 
 but I don't know how that works it doesn't seem to work for me. Perhaps 
 someone can clearly up on this? Thanks so much have a great day, John
  
 Cakes
  
  
 
 jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com Apr 08 01:52PM -0400  
 
 hello, when you tap on the add a contact button on your email it should bring 
 you to the list of contacts that you have on your phone. after that all you 
 have to do is select which person you want to send a message and select 

re:question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hello everyone,
i was  reading the mack's list  questions and answers the other day and someone 
 had a  plight about  when they closed their  computer down. that they  had to 
go into  systems preferences and  the go into the general application etc to 
shut  windows down. then when she  would go into  shutting it down for the 
night etc. it would ask her  if she wanted to log into  windows when  loging 
back onto the ones computer etc. 
well i called  apple yesterday and they went through a systems  preferences to  
see  if i was having the same plight or not. i went ahead and  ran a  scan of 
my computer to see if there were any  bugs or viruses on it and  i did not  
find anything wrong with my computer. to make a long story short. apple  
explained to me that  the reason for  the mack asking you if you want to login 
to your windows again  or not is due to the fact that when you go into a 
program  like pages or numbers or  safari the same  window will appear 
automatially thus if you  uncheck the box on the screen that  has this question 
 up and running etc. then  these windows will not appear  on your  particular 
application etc... i hope this makes some sense to you!.  but it is okay for 
you to run a  scan of your computer to see if you have a virus  or not if 
everything  checks out ok then your good. but you might want to call apple  if 
you have this plight again.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
 disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
 Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
 off topic! [3 Updates]
 Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
 Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
 A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
 Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
 Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
 e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
 Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
 
 I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
 that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
 I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
 all have the same names. 
  
 When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
 what's in it. 
  
 Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
  
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
 
 thanks, 
  
 Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
 that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
 one?
  
 I hate Itunes!
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
 
 hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
 time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
 using? lion or snow leopard?
  
 let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
 though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
 and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
  
 cheers
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Apr 08 12:30PM -0700  
 
 I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
 can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
 negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
 Lion.
  
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
 
 Hi Lu,
  
 I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
 than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
 to be patient. 
  
 for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
 so sorry for the post.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
 
 email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
  
 don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
  
 take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
 there by your side.
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
 
 Its not different. Its the 

re:jenny's itunes question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi jenny,
i am so sorry that you having  problems with i-tunes right now. however, if you 
want to find your library have first have to  v.o. right arrow or left arrow 
until  you hear my library. next you inner act with  it and then you  down 
arrow  and then press  v.o. space together to select the one you want.  
afterwards, you can v.o. left or right arrow  until you get to  music and then 
you v.o. shift  down arrow  into your music library and then you  v.o.  down 
arrow to  search through the  songs that you want to  uncheck yse v.o.  space 
bar to uncheck the songs that you do not want anymore and you could also delete 
them with eh delete key as well. 
i hope this helps you out.
good luck with  everything and i am so sorry to hear about your guide dog. i 
hope that you can get another one real soon.
sincerely, chenelle
ps. happy easter jenny.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
 disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
 Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
 off topic! [3 Updates]
 Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
 Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
 A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
 Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
 Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
 e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
 Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
 
 I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
 that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
 I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
 all have the same names. 
  
 When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
 what's in it. 
  
 Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
  
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
 
 thanks, 
  
 Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
 that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
 one?
  
 I hate Itunes!
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
 
 hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
 time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
 using? lion or snow leopard?
  
 let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
 though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
 and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
  
 cheers
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com Apr 08 12:30PM -0700  
 
 I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
 can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
 negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
 Lion.
  
  
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
  
 
 Jennifer Perdue jlperd...@gmail.com Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
 
 Hi Lu,
  
 I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
 than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
 to be patient. 
  
 for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
 so sorry for the post.
  
 Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
 On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
  
  
 
 Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
 
 email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
  
 don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
  
 take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
 there by your side.
  
 lew
  
 On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
  
  
 
 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
 
 Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
 regardless of OS.
  
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
  
  
 
  disregard previous question about folders
 jason lefevers jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com Apr 08 01:54PM -0400  
 
 hello again after some more playing around I have figured it out thank you 
 all very much. jason
  
 
  Adding contacts to my mail program
 Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com Apr 08 12:29PM -0400  
 
 Hi Ricardo and everybody, happy Easter to everyone who celebrates., I 
 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all
Did you try using primo to read your d

Sentoc fromuments?.
Sincerely, chenelle my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2012, at 11:08 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 A Question Regarding OCR [2 Updates]
 Tuneup service [1 Update]
 a guide on pages [6 Updates]
 setting view options for the documents folder [5 Updates]
 HTML5 [2 Updates]
 iTunes Files? [3 Updates]
 Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57 [5 Updates]
 Lion Questions [1 Update]
  A Question Regarding OCR
 Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com Apr 02 09:35PM -0500  
 
 Hi all!
 Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a 
 trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my 
 old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I 
 guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic 
 stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader.
 Jim
  
 On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote:
  
  
 -
 Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas
 Skype: jimintexas
 Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys
  
 
 Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Apr 02 10:00PM -0500  
 
 No, I haven't upgraded in many years, didn't think the accuracy of OCR 
 really improved all that much necessarily, only used it for scanning mail 
 once in awhile, but all in one printers sure scan slower than any scanner 
 I've used before. I wish I knew where I put the big box that probably had 
 version 6 in it, but if it's like Jaws or anything else I'll end up with a 
 new disk when I purchase the upgrade. I hope those are still reasonable yet.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:21 PM
 Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
  
  
  
 
  Tuneup service
 John André Netland eml...@a-pro-studio.no Apr 01 08:34PM +0200  
 
 It's not accessible with VoiceOver, but the developer is now aware of the 
 issue, and consider to make it VoiceOver compatible. They were responsive 
 when I contacted them, and will also offer you a refund if you'd rather not 
 wait for a possible VoiceOver compatible version.
  
 If you write att...@tuneupmedia.com and ask for it to be VoiceOver 
 compatible, I'm sure it will help.
  
  
 ***
 John André Netland - Voice/SMS/MMS (+47) 971 68 794
 Visit online at www.a-pro-studio.no
 ***
  
 On 1. apr. 2012, at 11:08, AZ wrote:
  
  
 
  a guide on pages
 Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com Mar 31 07:18PM -0400  
 
 Hi M, how much is that in USA dollars? Thanks a lot, Johnny
  
 Cakes
  
  
 
 Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk Apr 01 08:57AM +0200  
 
 Hello Johnny,
  
 €25 in US dollars is currently around $35 but the exchange rate varies.
  
 Cheers,
  
 Anne
  
 
 Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com Apr 01 10:58AM -0500  
 
 Hi:
 I missed part of this post. There is a Pages guide?
 On Apr 1, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
  
  
 
 Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk Apr 01 06:53PM +0200  
 
 There is no Pages guide, just a course on Pages available via Skype at a cost 
 of €25 per unit. There are 5 units altogether but not everyone needs all 5.
  
 Cheers,
  
 Anne
  
  
 On 1 Apr 2012, at 17:58, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
  
  
 
 Rose Morales r...@chicksdigmacs.net Apr 01 01:26PM -0400  
 
 while there is no guide on Pages from a VO perspective, please note that 
 Apple does offer a standard guide free of charge for Pages. In harmony with 
 Ann's comments, you will not learn how to use Pages from a VO perspective. 
 But I still found it to be helpful. I would encourage any of you who need 
 help with Pages to give it a look, if only to know and see what is out there.
 Regards,
 Rose
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Esther mori...@mac.com Apr 01 08:09AM -1000  
 
 Hello,
  
 Since Rose mentioned the Pages User Guide that Apple provides, I thought I'd 
 provide the link to the PDF version of the Pages09 manual:
 http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Pages09_UserGuide.pdf
 This is the English version; in general, you can use the link for Manuals in 
 other languages at the Apple support page for manuals to find user guides 
 for their products in different languages:
 http://support.apple.com/manuals/
  
 HTH. Cheers,
  
 Esther
  
 On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
  
  
 
  setting view options for the documents folder
 Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com Apr 01 10:37AM -0400  
 
 Hi all,
  
 I would like to have my files and folders displayed as they are in Windows, 
 with folders listed first, and then all files in that folder listed in 
 alphabetical order. I've looked in the view options, and I seem either to be 
 able to have a completely alphabetical list with files and folders all mixed 
 in together, or to have them sorted by kind, which does separate out the 
 folders, 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 4 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,
I  cannot get my right side button undone. For some reason or another it became 
stuck on the inside of the right side corner. Thus I cannot get it  to come 
unstuck. Is there someone that can help me with my wireless keyboard 
plight?.thankssincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2012, at 6:11 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 Navigating in mail on the iPad [was Re: some iPad questions] [2 Updates]
 Using your air in public. [2 Updates]
 Skype and facebook [1 Update]
 Reconnecting a Refreshabraille to an iPod [1 Update]
  Navigating in mail on the iPad [was Re: some iPad questions]
 Esther mori...@mac.com Mar 23 11:06AM -1000  
 
 Hi Denise,
  
 The delete button for individual messages is located in a different place on 
 the iPad from where you're used to finding it on the iPhone. If you can find 
 the move button, you can just flick right from it to reach the delete 
 button on the iPad. Alternatively, if you can find the compose button at 
 the top right corner of your screen, you can flick left twice to reach the 
 delete button. The four buttons for move, delete, reply, and 
 compose pertaining to individual mail messages, that you would find along 
 the bottom of your iPhone screen, are located at the top right of your iPad 
 screen, at the same vertical position as the Inbox and Mailboxes 
 headings. You'll find the compose button if you touch the battery status 
 icon at the top right corner of the active iPad region, and move your finger 
 down slightly. 
  
 One way to reach the delete button on the iPad, regardless of whether you 
 are using landscape or portrait mode, is to use the new item chooser 
 gesture introduced under iOS 5. Do a three finger double tap to bring up item 
 chooser menu. Although item chooser is designed to let you enter search 
 strings by typing into a text field, you don't need to type anything. 
 Instead, just flick right until you reach Delete and double tap. That will 
 move your focus to Delete button for your currently viewed message. Since 
 item chooser lists items in alphabetical order, you may have to flick right 5 
 or more times to get to the entry for Delete and double tap. And remember, 
 using item chooser this way only moves your focus to the item you've 
 selected; you still need to execute another double tap to activate the 
 Delete button. 
  
 The way I'm used to deleting individual messages on the iPad is by touching 
 the Compose button in the top right corner (in either landscape or portrait 
 orientation), and flicking left twice to the Delete button, then double 
 tapping. You do need to learn the boundaries of the active iPad screen 
 region, just as with the iPhone, and a case can help you learn these. If 
 you're using the new smart covers, and your iPad is held in landscape mode, 
 with the home button to the left, you can touch the left or right hinges of 
 the cover at the top of your screen, and feel for the raised bar in the 
 center of the metal hinge. If I move my finger vertically down from the left 
 hinge, with an iPad in landscape mode, I'll first hear ATT network, status 
 bar item, double tap to scroll to top, and then Inbox number of messages, 
 back button in mail. Moving down vertically from the right hinge in 
 landscape mode for mail, I'll first hear 80 per cent battery power, status 
 bar item, double tap to scroll to top. Moving further down, I'll hear 
 Compose button. If you don't use a case or smart cover, you can mark the 
 boundaries of the active screen region by using elastic bands around your 
 iPad to mark the active boundaries at the top, bottom, and sides, while you 
 learn their positions. If that's too awkward or sounds too dorky, you can use 
 some of those not-too-sticky Post-It page markers, or low-stick brands of 
 tape that are used to temporarily position items, and use them to mark off 
 the corners of the active region. These won't damage the surface of the iPad, 
 but will provide temporary tactile indicators of the edge of the active 
 region. 
  
 To delete multiple messages from a mailbox, start at the button in the top 
 left corner of the screen. This is also the first element, so you can use a 
 four finger tap in the top half of the screen to navigate there. In landscape 
 mode, this will probably be read as Inbox number of messages, back button 
 or Mailboxes, back button. Flick right twice, to the heading and then to 
 the Edit button and double tap. The Edit button will turn into a Cancel 
 button. Now flick right to the individual messages and double tap to mark or 
 unmark your selections. The Delete button for your selected messages is in 
 the bottom left corner of the iPad. Here are two ways you can find it, if 
 you're not used to the iPad active screen boundaries: 1) Do a four-finger tap 
 on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element, which will be 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 23 Messages in 11 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

  
 
  Deleting album from iPhone
 chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Mar 16 11:35AM  
 
 Hello all.
 The subject line says it all. How do I delete a specific album from the 
 iPhone? I went into music, went to the artists tab, double tapped on the 
 artist I am interested in, tried to double tap and hold then while 
 holding swipe to the right on the album I wish to delete, but I wasn't 
 able to delete it. I've tried several times. Please advise. Thanks!
 -- 
  
 Christopher H
  
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Mar 16 12:04PM  
 
 DearChris.
  
 It is difficult doing what you have asked as I have tried several times and 
 by the way you are following what others have said on the list and some 
 people get it to work but I can't. If any one else has a better method, 
 please let us know.
  
 Kawal. 
  
  
 
 Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net Mar 16 01:34PM +0100  
 
 Hi,
  
 the accessibility team says it's a bug between VoiceOver and iOS that it 
 doesn't work reliably using a swipe to the right as you described. They try 
 to fix it.
  
 I found two ways to do it anyway:
 1. Switch off VoiceOver and put your finger on the right place for ruffly one 
 second. Then move the finger to the right. Then you can switch on VoiceOver 
 again and click on the confirm delete button. 
  
 2. You are presumably a user of iTunes Match. Switch off iTunes Match on your 
 iPhone and delete content manually via iTunes. Afterwards you can switch 
 iTunes Match on again.
  
 All the best
 Jürgen
  
 Am 16.03.2012 um 13:04 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu:
  
  
 
 Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net Mar 16 08:19AM -0500  
 
 Helo everyone. I struggled with this also. I found that if I double tap and 
 hold with one finger and make a small quick movement immediately after I hear 
 the tone, the prompt will show up and you will be able to delete the elbum or 
 podcast.
  
  
 
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 Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com Mar 15 06:15PM -0400  
 
 Hi all, 
 I want to listen to black books on my Mack how do I go about doing that?.
 Thanks so much for your help.
 Sincerely, chenelle
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  
 
 Mr. L. Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com Mar 16 07:36AM  
 
 If we're talking Black books the comedy from Channel 4 starring Bill Bailey, 
 if it's on DVD or another format, you can play it either through DVD player 
 or itunes.
  
 if not then oops sorry.
  
 lew
  
 On 15 Mar 2012, at 22:15, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
  
  
 
  Amadeus Podcast
 Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com Mar 16 03:57PM +1000  
 
 Thanks for the podcast Alison. I am looking forward to your next one on 
 Amadeus Pro.
  
 Garth
 @BlindTechMuing
 On 15/03/2012, at 6:08 PM, Aser Tolentino wrote:
  
  
 
  Need to confirm the number of songs in iTunes library post MusicMatch
 Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com Mar 15 06:33PM -0700  
 
 The thing is, I fly on long international flights where I need my
 whole iTunes library available, even when the phone is in Airplane
 Mode. I don't want to be stuck in a plane and find that some track
 won't play because there's no web access. See my problem?
  
 
  Mac Book Air  cooling fan?
 Philippa Woodcraft p.n.woodcr...@googlemail.com Mar 15 02:33PM -0700  
 
 hi. i have noticed my MBA's fan is kicking in much much more these
 days. started about a week ago. it kicks in when i'm browsing, word
 processing, or just while the computer is on stand by. this can be on
 my lap, on a table, on a lap tray. Looking under the activity monitor,
 the thing that is using the most CPU is Voice Over. is this the same
 on anyone else's Mac? if it is VO, how come it hasn't done it until
 now? bit worrying :-( thanks.
  
  
 
 Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com Mar 15 05:34PM -0400  
 
 My MacBook Pro tends to run hot lately, too. I'm not sure what is causing it. 
 I thougt it was iTunes at first, but now I am not sure.
  
 Jane
  
  
 On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Philippa Woodcraft wrote:
  
  
 
 Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net Mar 15 07:31PM -0500  
 
 Hi Phillipa.
 this has to me a few times, and when it happens and the fan keeps going, it 
 usually means I had a problem, like the time Finder wouldn't stop being busy. 
 I had to call Apple Care, and we had to reset the fan. I am not sure I can 
 remember how to tell you because it was that real awkward command that takes 
 about ten hands, ha ha. It seemed that way to me when I was doing it. 
  
 Regards,
 Gigi
  
 Eugenia Firth
 gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
  
  
  
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[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all, 
I want to listen to black books on my Mack how do I go about doing that?.
Thanks so much for your help.
Sincerely, chenelle

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   Today's Topic Summary
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 National Express [1 Update]
 Using your air in public. [2 Updates]
 Netflix forIPhone [3 Updates]
 Chrome has become unusable [1 Update]
 Games for Mac and MUD Clients and other little questions of new Apple Eater 
 [1 Update]
 Hi [1 Update]
  National Express
 chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com Mar 15 09:00PM  
 
 For all UK members, does anyone know of an accessible app to book 
 national express coaches? Please advise. Thanks!
 -- 
  
 Christopher H
  
 
  Using your air in public.
 Esther mori...@mac.com Mar 15 10:08AM -1000  
 
 Hi Vivianna, Alex, Ricardo, Chris, Jane, Garth, Gigi, Emrah, Kawal, and Marc,
  
 First off, there is a Find My Mac program that is like Find My iPhone for 
 iOS devices. You can register your machine for it if you are running Lion, 
 and also have enabled iCloud services. Since I've only migrated to Lion about 
 a month ago, and still need to keep my MobileMe services active for a while 
 more, I can't speak directly about this program. However, I can run Find My 
 iPhone even from the MobileMe pages with VoiceOver.  It's not as simple as 
 it was with VoiceOver and Safari not upgraded under Snow Leopard, but it's 
 workable for me, so I assume this is also possible for Find My Mac. (The 
 truly bizarre aspect of this is how much easier it was to use Find My 
 iPhone with VoiceOver on version of Leopard -- two versions back -- on a 
 system with OS X 10.5.8 and the latest version of Safari at that time. I 
 switched to one of these machines just to contrast the Find My iPhone web 
 experience with VoiceOver, latest Safari, and Lion.) 
  
 Here's a link to an old New York Times article about Find My Mac from last 
 November:
 http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/using-apples-find-my-mac-feature/
 Use Command-Shift-R to read this in Safari Reader.
  
 Secondly, I highly recommend that everyone register their Apple products 
 using the MySupportProfile page:
 https://supportprofile.apple.com/MySupportProfile.do
  
 This is a personal service that has been around for at least 8 years, and is 
 designed as a way for customers to keep track of their Apple products. It's 
 not the same as warranty registration, although I think you can register 
 products through the MySupportProfile page. This is meant to be a convenient 
 record for you, the customer, so you can input this information at any time. 
 Although it's obviously easiest to put in this information soon after 
 purchase. You log in with your Apple ID and enter the serial numbers for 
 products you own. Once this is in place, you have a permanent record of your 
 serial numbers and product descriptions all in one place. Items can include 
 your Mac computers, iPhones, Apple TVs, AIrport Express units, Time Capsules, 
 etc. What makes this page useful, in addition to keeping a record of your 
 serial numbers, is that there are related support resources. So you can read 
 about the technical specifications for your model of device, find out whether 
 there are firmware updates, find related articles, and also track service 
 case issues. If you give your Mac or iOS device to a relative, or sell it, 
 you can remove the item from the devices that are registered to you, but you 
 can also provide them with details about the exact product they are getting 
 from you. And, if worst comes to worst, and one of your items is misplaced or 
 stolen, you have an accurate record of the serial number and the detailed 
 product description.
  
 Understand that the MySupportProfile page is not meant to be a way to make 
 Apple track lost or stolen items. It's a convenient resource for you, the 
 user. The only information that gets added to the pages are for devices whose 
 serial numbers you add. You can find these in your purchase receipts from 
 Apple, or by using the About this Mac entry of the Apple menu. (VO-M or 
 Control-F2 to the Apple menu, arrow down to About this Mac, and Navigate with 
 VO-Right arrow to the Version number (e.g. 10.7.3), then VO-Space to cycle 
 through the build to the serial number. You can copy the last phrase to the 
 clipboard with VO-Shift-C, then paste in information anywhere with 
 Command-V.) For those of you using QuickNav, just press Right arrow instead 
 of VO-Right arrow, and select by simultaneously pressing Up and Down arrow 
 keys instead of using VO-Space. And for those of you using TrackPad 
 Commander, use a two-finger double tap near the top of your TrackPad to move 
 to the Apple menu on the menu bar, flick down into to the submenu, then flick 
 down again to About this Mac and double tap. In the About this Mac 
 window, flick right to the OS version number and 

re: how to find the eject button on a windows computer?.hi matthew:

[Chenelle Hancock]

i infer that it might be located on the  top  right side of your  windows 
computer. however, to remedy  your particular plight i would just go and 
purchase a mac keyboard that is wireless for 69 dollars then you would be able 
to have full access  to your computer and  all of its particular functions.
i hope this helps matthew.
sincerely, chenelle

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[Chenelle Hancock]

hhello all,
i just  recently received my brand new time capsule  device earlier this 
morning.  it was not that difficult to  set up after contacting the apple  
store online and  having them  walk me through the process. now i am currently 
backing up my files onto  my time capsule. however, i do not know if any of you 
have ever ran into this problem before. I  currently  live in the basement of 
my grandparents house thus the internet signal isn't that strong  down here 
etc... so   i had my counsilor  purchase me an time capsule infering that  my 
signal strength would be increased  due to  the time capsule having an router  
attached to the exturnal hard drive. well while setting it up with apple inc 
earlier this morning they informed  me that  i would have to  purchase an 
airport express in order for the signal strength to increase at a faster tae 
then what it is right now.  so i wanted to know  if  i would have to buy the 
airport express at the end of the omnth just to increase the signal strength in 
my room so my internet could go faster?. or is there another way to go about 
increasing  it without buying an airport express? 
thank you so much for your time i really appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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 Google eBooks [1 Update]
 ITunes crashing all the time now [7 Updates]
 Messages beta question [3 Updates]
 pairing the Alva BC640 feature pack with a Mac? [1 Update]
 installing lion [3 Updates]
 Status Report Question [2 Updates]
 OT: Is there a list for Bllind Chrome OS and Chromebooks? [1 Update]
 IOS 5.1 [3 Updates]
 Let's hear each other! [2 Updates]
 iOS 5.1 and TypeInBraille [1 Update]
 First impressions of iOS 5.1 [1 Update]
  Google eBooks
 Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com Mar 09 10:43AM -0800  
 
 Just be sure that 1. flowed text is available for the book and 2. you you set 
 this option in settings if the book isn't read by VO. Scanned pages are not 
 accessible.
  
 Teresa
  
 The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham
  
 On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
  
  
 
  ITunes crashing all the time now
 Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com Mar 09 05:40AM -0500  
 
 Ray you are making a blanket statement here. I upgraded to iTunes 10.6 and I 
 am not experiencing any problems at all. So, I doubt Apple did anything. I 
 suspect there is another issue specific to you.
  
 On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
  
  
 
 Elena Brescacin talks...@gmail.com Mar 09 12:59PM +0100  
 
 I have not crashes and problems at all, too
 Till now! I did not add anything to my library yet
 The only trouble I find with iTunes, is while exploring the device. I
 mean: I go to the second bar, where to interact to find used and
 available space
 I do not know the english term. but it's after the radio buttons
 telling info, summary, apps, ringtones, music...
 it's the object containt the sync and apply button, when managing
 ringtones or apps or music or other files syncing.
 Once, it said, for example:
 capacity: 28.7 in GB
 audio: 2.5 gb
 apps: 7.5 gb
 and so on.
 Now, it says:
 28.5 gb. 2.5 gb. 7.5 gb...
 without telling you what the number corresponds to! I already sent an
 e-mail to accessibility team explaining the issue.
 I talked to a friend using Mountain Lion's preview version and he does
 not notice crashes on iTunes but has the same problem as mine.
 I am talking, of course, about iTunes for mac; i have not tested
 windows version yet.
  
 
 matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Mar 09 10:45AM -0500  
 
 Ray,
  
 I am having no problem with itunes 5.6. Infact the problems with tracks 
 skippping has now been fixed. Not sure what you may be having. Have you tried 
 reparing permisions? 
  
 Matthew
  
  
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 Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com Mar 09 09:55AM -0800  
 
 Ray,
 I'm curious if you are running Lion or SL. I'm still on SL, and I'm not 
 experiencing any problems as you described in the new ITunes. In fact, if 
 anything, I'd say it is snappier. Now when I first arrow to the store on the 
 sources table, I'm not stuck with a bunch of busy busy .
  
 Mary
  
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
  
 
 Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu Mar 09 12:57PM -0500  
 
 Hi all,
  
 I was seeing the busy busy stuff in iTunes after upgrading this morning, but 
 a Repair 

mi fi question:hello all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i am  going to be purchasing the latest i-pad  at the beginning of june before 
i  head off to dallas texas for national federation of the blinds  national 
convention on  june, 3o/ july, 7/12.  i do not want to pay the 45 dollars that 
att  charges for teathering. i was told by apple inc that if i purchased an mi 
fi box for my i-pad  with just wi fi and  not wi fi and 3.g. added to it. that 
it would be much more  cheeper for me in the long run.  furthermore, i wanted 
to know  if this device is worth my  time and money? also  is it  on the 
expensive  side? 
thank  you so much for your time i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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re: apple tv question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i  just only purchased an apple tv about three months ago. furthermore, i  did 
not have any problems with setting it up. i  i  have an h.d.l.c..d  tv thus all 
i had to do is to get another h.d.m.i. caple and connect  it to  the back of 
the apple tv and then  hook the  other piece to the back of the tv. then i  
pressed the  lower right button on the small slender remote control that comes 
with the apple tv three times in order  to  turn on voice over. afterwards,  i 
had my aunt  put in the  internet code and password  in order to hook up to 
netflix and the internet etc.. afterwards, it was a total breeze for me to   
work. i  have never regretted  purchasing  the apple tv at all either. i  had  
purchased  movies, and tv shows  from just using my apple tv and i really do 
enjoy it better then watching  cable for the most part.  the  only piece of 
apple equipment  that i do not have in my hands is an i-pad 3 and that does not 
come out until  march,7/12. but i will wait to get it until  later on in the 
summer etc.. 
take care everyone sincerely, chenelle.

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transfering n.l.s. books to the mac:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i wanted to reply to the individuals for who wanted to transfer n.l.s. books 
from their s.d. cards onto their mac's. could you just go to the app store and 
download i-book application onto your mac and then just  get your books from 
there or even use blio! as a back up. would that be easier for you to use. or 
is it just that you enjoy using the n.l.s. format?. as for me!  i just use the 
i-book application on my i-phone 4.s.  or blio to read my books. it takes not 
as much time to download  then to transfer the  book from you s.d. card onto 
the mac. That's just for me! and what i prefer. 
sincerely, chenelle

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re: what keyboard or i-phone case do you use?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i have used for the past 2 and a half years an apple wireless keyboard with my 
i[phone 3.g.s. and my new i-phone 4.s. which i truly do love at the moment etc. 
i also have a case with it and it is a hard cover case. i also have a wallet 
size case that has a  clip on it  so i can clip it onto my my pants if i want 
to etc... you  just place it into the  case and  close the  like like a wallet 
and that's it!.  i used it for my  3.g.s.  so i  then continued to use it for 
my 4.s. as well saying that i paid about 32 dollars for it at the time that i 
purchased my 3.g.s. over  three years ago.  i enjoy my wireless keyboard a 
great deal i just place it into my over size purse  and  go. i can take it out 
and use it along with my  i-phone 4.s.  and  i do not have to bring my mb pro 
with me. because everything is there inside of my  i-phone 4.s. it takes  up 
less space and it is  incredably lighter to carry around so that is why i like 
it. i cannot  wait to get me an i-pad when the new i-pad 3 comes out later this 
year.
sincerely, chenelle

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can you use a romeo imbosser on the mac?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i wanted to know if you could use a romeo embosser on the mac with  duxbury?
thansk a log for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

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