RE: Getting to the dock

[george b]

You can because it is control option d  not v o d

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 14:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting to the dock

I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of getting 
there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?

Marie Lyons

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RE: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[george b]

Get on the clock face with your time and such
Now push the crown button once and you are in the list of apps etc.. it should 
say clock

Now flick with one finger right to left and it should say world clock and 
dubble tap on this
Now set the info to your east cost time, if it is the correct time already then 
just change the name from couperteinol to what you wish.

The time changes through your phone so you should have the correct time just 
you need to change the name

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

I don’t have a time and date option on the watch app.  I have a clock but 
nothing in there indicates the cities other than city abbreviations.

Must be doing something wrong on my side.

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:34 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Open the watch app on your phone, go to time and date and change it there and 
> should reflect on your watch
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:29
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left. 
>  I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I 
> also removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
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RE: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[george b]

Open the watch app on your phone, go to time and date and change it there and 
should reflect on your watch

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:29
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

Hi,

On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left.  
I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I also 
removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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RE: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

[george b]

Remember it needs to be b t, to your phone and unlocked.
Also if you have apps told to install on the watch, the first time you activate 
that app on the watch it has to install

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:31
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

Hi,

Another thing I’m noticing as a new Apple watch user.  When you two finger 
swipe up through the various activities and views even if you swipe slowly and 
allow the screen to redraw do you sometimes find that nothing updates?  Also, I 
find in other places a similar thing where changes don’t appear to the display. 
 Anyone else notice this?   I’m running the latest Watch OS 2.1.

Thanks
Scott

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RE: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

[george b]

I use open book to scan and read materials.  Also, sendero maps for the p c. 
just to name a couple 

 

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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 09:00
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Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

 

My question to anyone who has windows or wants to put Windows on your Mac is 
this. What are you wanting to do on windows that you don't think you'll be able 
to do on your Mac? The problem usually with those who use windows on the Mac is 
they get stuck with something on the Mac with voiceover and then revert back to 
using windows and sometimes will end up just using Windows on a Mac. I used 
VMware fusion for a while, but no hardly use windows as I can do everything on 
my Mac.

If you ever need any assistance, feel free to reach out to me or anyone on the 
list. This list is a very helpful resource, and even helped me to where I know 
train others on how to use the Mac.

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On Dec 27, 2015, at 09:23, Rhonda Partain mailto:rhonda.part...@att.net> > wrote:

I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in order to 
run Windows on a mac?

I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows and the 
mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to select which disc 
one wants to startup.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Rhonda “Who know very little about the Mac”

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RE: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

[george b]

Thank goodness I was waiting to after the first of the year to have you build 
that server you said you would do if I bought the parts or just had you do the 
entire thing and pay you.
LOL since your having such a bad day I most likely would not get the product, 
but I would take the money.  In conclusion google is everyone's friend on this 
list to you unless there is monetary gain in it for you

How is that E T

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 08:04
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

Good luck finding a hand to hold on to. Meanwhile, try making good use of 
that very helpful information that Apple provided for installing Bootcamp.

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On 12/27/2015 7:59 AM, george b wrote:
> I want hand holding so when you going to start?  What is your issue 
> did you get out of bed on the wrong side, or are you a Phila Eagle 
> fan...hehaheha O and mary Christmas to you too
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 07:53
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows
>
>  Why, certainly. Did not that information prove to be helpful? Or 
> do you need hand holding? (smiles)
>
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> On 12/27/2015 7:50 AM, george b wrote:
>> LOL  I gess this list is not to help people, then???
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 07:45
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows
>>
>> George,
>>   All you need can be found here. Google wants to be your friend.
>>
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204009>
>>
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>> true?
>>
>> On 12/27/2015 6:42 AM, george b wrote:
>>> Hi recardo, nice seeing you!
>>>
>>> Do you have good directions on how to install bootcamp and migrate my 
>>> windows from a p c computer, please.
>>>
>>> Mary Christmas to you
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 06:29
>>> To: Macvisionaries 
>>> Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run 
>>> windows
>>>
>>> Hi Ronda,
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas to you and Ben. :)
>>>
>>> No, both are not needed to switch over to Windows. I have little experience 
>>> with VM Ware but used boot camp quite a bit.
>>>
>>> If you restart your Mac, and when you here the start up chime hold down the 
>>> option key, you will be place on a screen to select which OS you want to 
>>> boot into. Sadly there is no Voiceover on this screen. But you will only 
>>> have 3 options. Recovery HD, Mac OS X, and Windows. Pressing the left/ 
>>> right arrows will navigate through the options, and enter will select. If 
>>> you could possibly have someone tell you how many times you need to press 
>>> the arrows to land on windows, you’ll be golden.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Again, great to see you on here.
>>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in 
>>>> order to run Windows on a mac?
>>>> I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows 
>>>> and the mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to 
>>>> select which disc one wants to startup.
>>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>>> Rhonda “Who know very little about the Mac”
>>>>
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RE: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

[george b]

I want hand holding so when you going to start?  What is your issue did you get 
out of bed on the wrong side, or are you a Phila Eagle fan...hehaheha
O and mary Christmas to you too

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 07:53
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

Why, certainly. Did not that information prove to be helpful? Or do you 
need hand holding? (smiles)

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On 12/27/2015 7:50 AM, george b wrote:
> LOL  I gess this list is not to help people, then???
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 07:45
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows
>
> George,
>  All you need can be found here. Google wants to be your friend.
>
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204009>
>
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
>
> On 12/27/2015 6:42 AM, george b wrote:
>> Hi recardo, nice seeing you!
>>
>> Do you have good directions on how to install bootcamp and migrate my 
>> windows from a p c computer, please.
>>
>> Mary Christmas to you
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 06:29
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows
>>
>> Hi Ronda,
>>
>> Merry Christmas to you and Ben. :)
>>
>> No, both are not needed to switch over to Windows. I have little experience 
>> with VM Ware but used boot camp quite a bit.
>>
>> If you restart your Mac, and when you here the start up chime hold down the 
>> option key, you will be place on a screen to select which OS you want to 
>> boot into. Sadly there is no Voiceover on this screen. But you will only 
>> have 3 options. Recovery HD, Mac OS X, and Windows. Pressing the left/ right 
>> arrows will navigate through the options, and enter will select. If you 
>> could possibly have someone tell you how many times you need to press the 
>> arrows to land on windows, you’ll be golden.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Again, great to see you on here.
>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in order 
>>> to run Windows on a mac?
>>> I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows and 
>>> the mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to select 
>>> which disc one wants to startup.
>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>> Rhonda “Who know very little about the Mac”
>>>
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RE: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

[george b]

LOL  I gess this list is not to help people, then???

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 07:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

George,
All you need can be found here. Google wants to be your friend.

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204009>

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On 12/27/2015 6:42 AM, george b wrote:
> Hi recardo, nice seeing you!
>
> Do you have good directions on how to install bootcamp and migrate my windows 
> from a p c computer, please.
>
> Mary Christmas to you
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 06:29
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows
>
> Hi Ronda,
>
> Merry Christmas to you and Ben. :)
>
> No, both are not needed to switch over to Windows. I have little experience 
> with VM Ware but used boot camp quite a bit.
>
> If you restart your Mac, and when you here the start up chime hold down the 
> option key, you will be place on a screen to select which OS you want to boot 
> into. Sadly there is no Voiceover on this screen. But you will only have 3 
> options. Recovery HD, Mac OS X, and Windows. Pressing the left/ right arrows 
> will navigate through the options, and enter will select. If you could 
> possibly have someone tell you how many times you need to press the arrows to 
> land on windows, you’ll be golden.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Again, great to see you on here.
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
>>
>> I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in order 
>> to run Windows on a mac?
>> I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows and 
>> the mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to select 
>> which disc one wants to startup.
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
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RE: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

[george b]

Hi recardo, nice seeing you!

Do you have good directions on how to install bootcamp and migrate my windows 
from a p c computer, please.

Mary Christmas to you

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On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 06:29
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

Hi Ronda,

Merry Christmas to you and Ben. :)

No, both are not needed to switch over to Windows. I have little experience 
with VM Ware but used boot camp quite a bit.

If you restart your Mac, and when you here the start up chime hold down the 
option key, you will be place on a screen to select which OS you want to boot 
into. Sadly there is no Voiceover on this screen. But you will only have 3 
options. Recovery HD, Mac OS X, and Windows. Pressing the left/ right arrows 
will navigate through the options, and enter will select. If you could possibly 
have someone tell you how many times you need to press the arrows to land on 
windows, you’ll be golden.

I hope this helps.

Again, great to see you on here.
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
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> I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in order 
> to run Windows on a mac?
> I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows and 
> the mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to select 
> which disc one wants to startup.
> Thanks for any thoughts.
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RE: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound

[george b]

Yes but I use mine for navigation with apple maps which works awesomely, and it 
will stop reading if set for 15 seconds.  So, if you do 70 and your finished 
just put the flat of the palm of your hand on the screen and it makes the 
little noise and goes to sleep.

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Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound

Hi,

Just to add to this, you can also wake the watch by just tapping on the screen. 
I personally set the watch to stay on for 15 seconds. 70 is too long in most 
circumstances I find myself using the watch for.. I would also recommend going 
into voiceover settings and turning off speak on wrist raise.

hth
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 1:15 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Scott
> You need to go to the watch app on your phone and  general,  have wrist 
> detection on, and then go to  wake screen button just below rist detection 
> and open it and in there turn it off.  The clicking is everytime you move 
> your wrist the screen wakes up and then it goes to sleep and does the clicks.
> Then flick down to on tap and choose the 70 second time so voice over will 
> have time to read the entire screen to you when your doing something.
> 
> Now when set up like this when you move your wrist only the time will show 
> for sited persons.
> To have the watch tell you the time I found the best is to push the crown 
> button once and it will start speaking to you.  To put the screen to sleep 
> just put your palm of your hand on the screen and you hear those same 
> annoning clicks.
> 
> How is that
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 09:58
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was lucky and received a nice new Apple watch under the tree.  I ended up 
> with the 42 millimeter stainless steel version with the metal magnetic type 
> band.  Love the fit and feel so far.  My question is this.  I have VO and 
> everything enabled but I notice that periodically and it can be anything from 
> a few seconds to a few minutes the watch makes like a click click sound, one 
> or two quick clicks and then it stops, waits and does it again.  Any idea 
> what this is?  Also, any general pointers would be great.
> 
> Thanks and happy holidays all.
> 
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RE: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound

[george b]

Scott
You need to go to the watch app on your phone and  general,  have wrist 
detection on, and then go to  wake screen button just below rist detection and 
open it and in there turn it off.  The clicking is everytime you move your 
wrist the screen wakes up and then it goes to sleep and does the clicks.
Then flick down to on tap and choose the 70 second time so voice over will have 
time to read the entire screen to you when your doing something.

Now when set up like this when you move your wrist only the time will show for 
sited persons.
To have the watch tell you the time I found the best is to push the crown 
button once and it will start speaking to you.  To put the screen to sleep just 
put your palm of your hand on the screen and you hear those same annoning 
clicks.

How is that

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 09:58
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound

Hi,

I was lucky and received a nice new Apple watch under the tree.  I ended up 
with the 42 millimeter stainless steel version with the metal magnetic type 
band.  Love the fit and feel so far.  My question is this.  I have VO and 
everything enabled but I notice that periodically and it can be anything from a 
few seconds to a few minutes the watch makes like a click click sound, one or 
two quick clicks and then it stops, waits and does it again.  Any idea what 
this is?  Also, any general pointers would be great.

Thanks and happy holidays all.
 


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RE: Songs Accessibility

[george b]

Jeff I have a sonos saround sound sound bar and 2 play 1 speakers, and another 
play 1 speaker in a different part of the home.
The app is totally accessible with v o with a couple of minor issues, but 
workable.

It is a great system

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Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 08:50
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Subject: Songs Accessibility

Hi all,

I am thinking about investing in a Sonos system for my house.  I'm wondering if 
anybody has one and whether it is accessible.

Thx,
Jeff

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RE: Safari on iOS not prompting to save passwords anymore

[george b]

Need to tell your device you want to use keychain

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On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 07:19
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Safari on iOS not prompting to save passwords anymore

They used to be when I logged onto a website and enter the password etc. I 
would be asked if I'd like to save that password. Now since buying my 6S plus, 
I don't seem to have that capacity I type in a password to a website and it's 
not asking me to save them. Nor is it auto filling sites that use to fill with 
password and logon ID. What setting do I need to use to get this functionality 
back? Thanks


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RE: Charging the Watch, was: Re: My early Christmas Gift from Apple

[george b]

Yes, but sometimes that does not happen for a minute or so

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On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 09:36
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging the Watch, was: Re: My early Christmas Gift from Apple

It also makes a little dinging noise when it’s properly seated on the 
charger/puck..
Cait

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 10:52 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Just another tip the charging disk is only magnetic on one side and if you 
> feel each side the magnetic side is convabed to fit the beveled disk on the 
> back of the watch
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 07:43
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging the Watch, was: Re: My early Christmas Gift from Apple
> 
> 
> 
> Yep, the little thing on the end of the cable is magnetic and just attracts 
> to the bottom of the watch. It will make a little sound when it is attached 
> and charging.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>  
> 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
> 
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 5:08 PM
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> Subject: Charging the Watch, was: Re: My early Christmas Gift from Apple
> 
> 
> 
> Cait,
> 
> 
> 
> I'm glad you mentioned about charging.  Can you describe to me what I'm gonna 
> get in the box, and how the charging process works?  I hear that it's 
> basically a cable which has USB on one end, and a circular round little 
> contraption on the other end.  Basically, where I am confused is, how do I 
> actually sit the watch on the charger?  Is it basically a magnet that allows 
> the bottom of the watch face to go on the charger?
> 
> 
> 
> I don't have to remove the band to charge it, do I, as with my fine motor 
> skills not being very good at all, I think changing out the bands or 
> remove/attaching them is going to be very very very difficult for me.  Thank 
> goodness the milanese band I'm getting is going to already be attached.
> 
> 
> 
> I showed my mom a Youtube video of a guy unboxing the thing, and she agrees 
> that removing and connecting the band would be extremely difficult for me to 
> do on my own, but just getting the watch on my wrist and getting it clasped 
> shut, she feels looks ridiculously easy.  She agreed that for me, the 
> milanese was an excellent choice.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: Caitlyn Furness <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>  
> 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
> 
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 5:25 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: My early Chrikstmas Gift from Apple
> 
> 
> 
> Chris, 
> 
> 
> 
> I think you’ll really like the watch!
> 
> 
> 
> I got mine back in July as a sort of birthday present for myself.
> 
> 
> 
> Once I rememberd to charge the thing every night, we were all good!
> 
> 
> 
> Cait
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:33 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  <mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Chris, 
> 
> Is "Chrikstmas" some kind of a new holiday I missed?
> 
> ;)
> 
> Merry Christmas!
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well guys, I bit the bullet.  I applied for a Barclay card, was approved 
> miraculously, and got me the Apple Watch stainless steel 38MM with Milinese 
> loop.  It's supposed to get here on Tuesday the 22nd by no later than noon 
> eastern time.
> 
> 
> 
> I have definitely downloaded all the Apple Watch podcasts from Applevis.
> 
> 
> 
> Sounds like I have a fair amount of learning to do, but I suspect I'll get 
> the hang of it quite quickly, as usually with most tech devices, I do.  I 
> don't suspect this will be like my Apple TV 4 disaster was, as I've even 
> already gotten the shipping notification via both text and e-mail, and yes, I 
> do already even have the tracking number.  So, I should be just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm really excited!  Just wanted to let you all know my Santa Clause that I 
> got for myself this year.  LOL!
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Charging the Watch, was: Re: My early Christmas Gift from Apple

[george b]

Just another tip the charging disk is only magnetic on one side and if you feel 
each side the magnetic side is convabed to fit the beveled disk on the back of 
the watch

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 07:43
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging the Watch, was: Re: My early Christmas Gift from Apple

 

Yep, the little thing on the end of the cable is magnetic and just attracts to 
the bottom of the watch. It will make a little sound when it is attached and 
charging.

 

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From: Christopher-Mark Gilland   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 5:08 PM

Subject: Charging the Watch, was: Re: My early Christmas Gift from Apple

 

Cait,

 

I'm glad you mentioned about charging.  Can you describe to me what I'm gonna 
get in the box, and how the charging process works?  I hear that it's basically 
a cable which has USB on one end, and a circular round little contraption on 
the other end.  Basically, where I am confused is, how do I actually sit the 
watch on the charger?  Is it basically a magnet that allows the bottom of the 
watch face to go on the charger?

 

I don't have to remove the band to charge it, do I, as with my fine motor 
skills not being very good at all, I think changing out the bands or 
remove/attaching them is going to be very very very difficult for me.  Thank 
goodness the milanese band I'm getting is going to already be attached.

 

I showed my mom a Youtube video of a guy unboxing the thing, and she agrees 
that removing and connecting the band would be extremely difficult for me to do 
on my own, but just getting the watch on my wrist and getting it clasped shut, 
she feels looks ridiculously easy.  She agreed that for me, the milanese was an 
excellent choice.

 

Chris.

 

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From: Caitlyn Furness   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 5:25 AM

Subject: Re: My early Chrikstmas Gift from Apple

 

Chris, 

 

I think you’ll really like the watch!

 

I got mine back in July as a sort of birthday present for myself.

 

Once I rememberd to charge the thing every night, we were all good!

 

Cait

 

On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:33 AM, CHUCK REICHEL mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Chris, 

Is "Chrikstmas" some kind of a new holiday I missed?

;)

Merry Christmas!

Chuck

 

On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:





Well guys, I bit the bullet.  I applied for a Barclay card, was approved 
miraculously, and got me the Apple Watch stainless steel 38MM with Milinese 
loop.  It's supposed to get here on Tuesday the 22nd by no later than noon 
eastern time.

 

I have definitely downloaded all the Apple Watch podcasts from Applevis.

 

Sounds like I have a fair amount of learning to do, but I suspect I'll get the 
hang of it quite quickly, as usually with most tech devices, I do.  I don't 
suspect this will be like my Apple TV 4 disaster was, as I've even already 
gotten the shipping notification via both text and e-mail, and yes, I do 
already even have the tracking number.  So, I should be just fine.

 

I'm really excited!  Just wanted to let you all know my Santa Clause that I got 
for myself this year.  LOL!

 

Chris.

 

 

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RE: Gesture to end dictation on iPhone?

[george b]

When the edit field is active so you can type in it do the following
1  2 finger double tap will give you the little tone and then start talking
2  when finished talking 2 finger double tap to get the tone which lets you 
know you can not talk any more.
Then you will hear voice over read what you dictated in that edit field.

Note the nice thing thing about this is you can do the 2 finger double tap to 
start and end dictation anywhere on the screen.

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Subject: Gesture to end dictation on iPhone?

Hello,
I find dictation on the iPhone 5S really useful for text messages, Emails and 
Calendar. 
Is there a VoiceOver friendly gesture to end dictation? the guidance on 
dictation is to tap the done button on the virtual keyboard but dictation seems 
to turn the VoiceOver volume down so that I cannot easily find the done button. 
So I have been ending dictation by pressing the home button. that certainly 
ends dictation but takes me out of the App I am using and I then have to get 
back to that App. Is there a better way? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell 

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RE: Safari repeattedly says percentage of web page loaded since last El Capitan upgrade

[george b]

Hi there why don't you have the email your responding to  / replying to in the 
message so we know what the heck your replying to, please.

thanks

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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 17:23
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Safari repeattedly says percentage of web page loaded since last 
El Capitan upgrade

Changing the progress indicator to sounds helps, however the reason you are 
hearing the indicator is that the page is, in fact, stuck at whatever 
percentage.  And since the most usual cause of these slow loading elements are 
ad servers and social media buttons, I suggest you grab and install AdBlock 
from the Safari Extensions Gallery, and configure it to block the buggers.  You 
don’t need to load what you don’t need displayed on the page.

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RE: IPod touch sixth generation and Bluetooth or airplay

[george b]

The stero function with the mega boom speakers and Bluetooth do not work

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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 11:34
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Subject: IPod touch sixth generation and Bluetooth or airplay

I am sending this to both lists because it is possible there are some iPod 
touch users on the Mac visionaries list who are not on the VI phone list. I am 
interested in your experiences with iPod touch sixth generation using Bluetooth 
or airplay. Using my iPhone, I have noticed some strange anomalies with the 
volume when using Bluetooth, such that the music volume goes down. I have 
noticed with airplay that sometimes the voice over volume goes down. I do not 
have audio ducking on. And I wonder are people with iPod touches experiencing 
this? One really strange example happens with my UE megaboom pair of speakers. 
When I use that with my iPhone, the volume on the speaker to which the phone is 
directly connected via Bluetooth takes a major hit. If I connect an android 
device to Bluetooth that same speaker has no problem, and stereo balance is 
maintained. That's one of the few good things I can say for the Nexus device I 
recently bought, but that is another story entirely. My interest is in the iPod 
touch, wondering if this is a problem unique to iPhones, unique to my iPhone, 
or something general with iOS 9 and these devices.
Mary


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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen

[george b]

Thanks for the heads up

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 09:21
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

 

Hi George, you'll need an account in the UK App Store. And you'll also need 
technology to overcome the geo-blocking of the content. In the case of Apple 
TV, that would have to be a DNS redirection service such as UnoTelly or 
Unblock-US.

My audio book, Imagine There's No Countries, covers both subjects. 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

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http://Mosen.org

 

On 17/12/2015, at 6:10 AM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Jonathen,

 

I do a search in the app store BBC iPlayer, and I get a bunch of choices like 
radio things which do I pick to get the t v things

 

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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
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Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

 

BBC iPlayer was released for Apple TV 4 a couple of days ago, complete with 
live streaming of BBC channels, and audio description. It's awesome.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

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 <http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org

 

On 17/12/2015, at 2:22 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu < <mailto:listse...@me.com> 
listse...@me.com> wrote:

 

Not until BBC iPlayer gets rolled out and has the same coverage as their 
dreadful web player.

But that, of course, is just me.

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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen

[george b]

Jonathen,

 

I do a search in the app store BBC iPlayer, and I get a bunch of choices like 
radio things which do I pick to get the t v things

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 07:35
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

 

BBC iPlayer was released for Apple TV 4 a couple of days ago, complete with 
live streaming of BBC channels, and audio description. It's awesome.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 17/12/2015, at 2:22 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu mailto:listse...@me.com> > wrote:

 

Not until BBC iPlayer gets rolled out and has the same coverage as their 
dreadful web player.

But that, of course, is just me.

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RE: Help.i think i did something to my mac hd.

[george b]

Hi,

Call 1 877 204 3930
It is the apple accessibility line and they will help you through it

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On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 21:19
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Subject: Help.i think i did something to my mac hd.

Hi all.

Today i tried to do aclean install of el capitan and after eracing the drive, i 
was unable to do so. I was was  told that could not unmount disk i was able to 
format the macintosh hd partition oddly enough.  The partition was only 2.67 gb 
or something around there.

Any idea on what i might have done andhow to fix this before taking it tothe 
apple store.  Thanks.

Matthew


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RE: I gave up on my Apple watch.

[george b]

Actually I have mine set to sta active for 70 seconds, so it will not sleep 
when something long is being red to me.  Thus, I got in the habit of just 
putting the flat part of the pahm of my hand on the face and put it to sleep 
and I war it for at least 16 hours a day and always have 60 per cent or more of 
battery left.

 

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On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 16:24
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

Hi George, right, speak on wrist raise is the key in terms of the talking, but 
activate on wrist raise may have contributed to Kawal's battery issues.

Jonathan Mosen

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On 11/12/2015, at 12:21 PM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Joanthen,

 

I have activate on rist raised so I can show others the time, and speek off and 
do not have these issues.

 

I do have a issue once in a while of moving my hand back twords my arm and 
activating the crown since I ware my watch on my right hand with the button and 
crown on the left.

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 14:46
To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

Hi Kawal, were activate on wrist raise, and speak on wrist raise, both disabled?

Jonathan Mosen

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On 11/12/2015, at 11:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu < <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> 
kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

First day without the watch and I miss it, a time piece on my wrist.

 

Now I’ll tell you why I gave up on it as I was very happy with it but mine had 
this flaw and I don’t know if anyone had it.

 

Please note wrist to raise with voice over was off.  So think about this.  You 
do your normal duties be it round the house, at work or out and about.  Then 
suddenly this watch would start talking as if you had pressed it.  Not just 
that, it would go in and out of apps as if you were touching it.  I had to tap 
it ten or 20 times to lock it before it stopped.  Some times when it was 
raining and my sleeve got wet and it would start talking, talking and talking!  
So I’d have to power it off.  You don’t know how much it got on my nerves, I 
wanted to throw it somewhere for it to stop!  I thought the new update would 
sort it as I had reset it loads.  New update didn’t stop it.

 

You would have said call Apple but Apple would have said for me to reset and 
then I’d have to take a day off work just to sit at home to wait for a courier 
and I couldn’t do it at this time as my annual leave has almost expired!  So 
yesterday morning after another period of this watch doing its moving in to 
apps back and forth in and out, I got to the point, I would not tolerate this 
watch anymore.  So you see what a time I had with it.  Also, after the new 
update, when my work out ended, it would continue to count and count down and I 
had to power it off.  Then another day it would crash for a whole day and when 
it finally come back on, there would be no power left it died until it was 
charged!  So there is my story.  So now I wait for the next one and this time 
I’ll not get the sports as I am wondering because it was sports it did this 
thing that got on my nerves!  How I miss my time piece though.

 

Kawal.

On 10 Dec 2015, at 22:00, Alex Hall < <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> 
mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

I'm waiting until quarter 2 of 2016, when the second generation should arrive. 
I'd love to hear what you (the OP) disliked; all the better to make as informed 
a choice as I can when we see what the updated hardware has.

On Dec 10, 2015, at 15:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland < 
<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

I'm actually very very highly considerring getting one at the beginning of next 
year.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From:  <mailto:doniado...@me.com> Donna Goodin

To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:35 PM

Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

I completely agree!  I'm still very happy with mine.  Do let us know, Kawal.

Cheers,

Donna

On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Daniel Miller < <mailto:miller...@gmail.com> 
miller...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

That’s what I’d like to know as well. I absolutely love mine, and don’t notice 
any accessibility concerns at all.

Now do I wish the hardware could’ve been a little faster? Yes, b

RE: I gave up on my Apple watch.

[george b]

Joanthen,

 

I have activate on rist raised so I can show others the time, and speek off and 
do not have these issues.

 

I do have a issue once in a while of moving my hand back twords my arm and 
activating the crown since I ware my watch on my right hand with the button and 
crown on the left.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 14:46
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

Hi Kawal, were activate on wrist raise, and speak on wrist raise, both disabled?

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 11/12/2015, at 11:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

First day without the watch and I miss it, a time piece on my wrist.

 

Now I’ll tell you why I gave up on it as I was very happy with it but mine had 
this flaw and I don’t know if anyone had it.

 

Please note wrist to raise with voice over was off.  So think about this.  You 
do your normal duties be it round the house, at work or out and about.  Then 
suddenly this watch would start talking as if you had pressed it.  Not just 
that, it would go in and out of apps as if you were touching it.  I had to tap 
it ten or 20 times to lock it before it stopped.  Some times when it was 
raining and my sleeve got wet and it would start talking, talking and talking!  
So I’d have to power it off.  You don’t know how much it got on my nerves, I 
wanted to throw it somewhere for it to stop!  I thought the new update would 
sort it as I had reset it loads.  New update didn’t stop it.

 

You would have said call Apple but Apple would have said for me to reset and 
then I’d have to take a day off work just to sit at home to wait for a courier 
and I couldn’t do it at this time as my annual leave has almost expired!  So 
yesterday morning after another period of this watch doing its moving in to 
apps back and forth in and out, I got to the point, I would not tolerate this 
watch anymore.  So you see what a time I had with it.  Also, after the new 
update, when my work out ended, it would continue to count and count down and I 
had to power it off.  Then another day it would crash for a whole day and when 
it finally come back on, there would be no power left it died until it was 
charged!  So there is my story.  So now I wait for the next one and this time 
I’ll not get the sports as I am wondering because it was sports it did this 
thing that got on my nerves!  How I miss my time piece though.

 

Kawal.

On 10 Dec 2015, at 22:00, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I'm waiting until quarter 2 of 2016, when the second generation should arrive. 
I'd love to hear what you (the OP) disliked; all the better to make as informed 
a choice as I can when we see what the updated hardware has.

On Dec 10, 2015, at 15:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I'm actually very very highly considerring getting one at the beginning of next 
year.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Donna Goodin  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:35 PM

Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

I completely agree!  I'm still very happy with mine.  Do let us know, Kawal.

Cheers,

Donna

On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That’s what I’d like to know as well. I absolutely love mine, and don’t notice 
any accessibility concerns at all.

Now do I wish the hardware could’ve been a little faster? Yes, but for a 
first-generation product that’s had 2 major updates since it’s launch, it’s 
quite remarkable.

 

On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

 

Wow, I thought you liked the watch.  What did you find frustrating about it?

 

I was going to get one but it sounds like a new one will be released early in 
2016.

 

 

On Dec 9, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I gave up on my Apple watch today as I was not happy with it.

 

I don’t think the latest update did it any favours!  So I gave it up and sold 
it.  Now I wait for the next generation and I hope it will be more functional 
than what it was as I’d like a little more independence from the phone!

I'm fundraising for RNIB.

Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money Giving 
page. 

To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit 
http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland where you can also sponsor me 
online.

 

 

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RE: I gave up on my Apple watch.

[george b]

Like I said if they returned it it would still be on the rist.  I had a major 
issue with my first sport and apple ahpply refunded me and then later when I 
was informed the issues have not appeared in other devices issued me a new one.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 14:38
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

Wow!  Just FYI, Kawal, I have the sports model, too, and I haven't had any of 
those problems.  Sometimes I have to tap it a couple of times to get it to shut 
off, but that is the worst of it for me.

Cheers,

Donna

On Dec 10, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

First day without the watch and I miss it, a time piece on my wrist.

 

Now I’ll tell you why I gave up on it as I was very happy with it but mine had 
this flaw and I don’t know if anyone had it.

 

Please note wrist to raise with voice over was off.  So think about this.  You 
do your normal duties be it round the house, at work or out and about.  Then 
suddenly this watch would start talking as if you had pressed it.  Not just 
that, it would go in and out of apps as if you were touching it.  I had to tap 
it ten or 20 times to lock it before it stopped.  Some times when it was 
raining and my sleeve got wet and it would start talking, talking and talking!  
So I’d have to power it off.  You don’t know how much it got on my nerves, I 
wanted to throw it somewhere for it to stop!  I thought the new update would 
sort it as I had reset it loads.  New update didn’t stop it.

 

You would have said call Apple but Apple would have said for me to reset and 
then I’d have to take a day off work just to sit at home to wait for a courier 
and I couldn’t do it at this time as my annual leave has almost expired!  So 
yesterday morning after another period of this watch doing its moving in to 
apps back and forth in and out, I got to the point, I would not tolerate this 
watch anymore.  So you see what a time I had with it.  Also, after the new 
update, when my work out ended, it would continue to count and count down and I 
had to power it off.  Then another day it would crash for a whole day and when 
it finally come back on, there would be no power left it died until it was 
charged!  So there is my story.  So now I wait for the next one and this time 
I’ll not get the sports as I am wondering because it was sports it did this 
thing that got on my nerves!  How I miss my time piece though.

 

Kawal.

On 10 Dec 2015, at 22:00, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I'm waiting until quarter 2 of 2016, when the second generation should arrive. 
I'd love to hear what you (the OP) disliked; all the better to make as informed 
a choice as I can when we see what the updated hardware has.

On Dec 10, 2015, at 15:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I'm actually very very highly considerring getting one at the beginning of next 
year.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Donna Goodin  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:35 PM

Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

I completely agree!  I'm still very happy with mine.  Do let us know, Kawal.

Cheers,

Donna

On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That’s what I’d like to know as well. I absolutely love mine, and don’t notice 
any accessibility concerns at all.

Now do I wish the hardware could’ve been a little faster? Yes, but for a 
first-generation product that’s had 2 major updates since it’s launch, it’s 
quite remarkable.

 

On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Scott Granados mailto:sc...@qualityip.net> > wrote:

 

Wow, I thought you liked the watch.  What did you find frustrating about it?

 

I was going to get one but it sounds like a new one will be released early in 
2016.

 

 

On Dec 9, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I gave up on my Apple watch today as I was not happy with it.

 

I don’t think the latest update did it any favours!  So I gave it up and sold 
it.  Now I wait for the next generation and I hope it will be more functional 
than what it was as I’d like a little more independence from the phone!

I'm fundraising for RNIB.

Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money Giving 
page. 

To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit 
http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland where you can also sponsor me 
online.

 

 

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RE: I gave up on my Apple watch.

[george b]

Well in reading this email.  I think if you would of requested a new device you 
would of not had these issues and would of still had your device.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 14:14
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

First day without the watch and I miss it, a time piece on my wrist.

 

Now I’ll tell you why I gave up on it as I was very happy with it but mine had 
this flaw and I don’t know if anyone had it.

 

Please note wrist to raise with voice over was off.  So think about this.  You 
do your normal duties be it round the house, at work or out and about.  Then 
suddenly this watch would start talking as if you had pressed it.  Not just 
that, it would go in and out of apps as if you were touching it.  I had to tap 
it ten or 20 times to lock it before it stopped.  Some times when it was 
raining and my sleeve got wet and it would start talking, talking and talking!  
So I’d have to power it off.  You don’t know how much it got on my nerves, I 
wanted to throw it somewhere for it to stop!  I thought the new update would 
sort it as I had reset it loads.  New update didn’t stop it.

 

You would have said call Apple but Apple would have said for me to reset and 
then I’d have to take a day off work just to sit at home to wait for a courier 
and I couldn’t do it at this time as my annual leave has almost expired!  So 
yesterday morning after another period of this watch doing its moving in to 
apps back and forth in and out, I got to the point, I would not tolerate this 
watch anymore.  So you see what a time I had with it.  Also, after the new 
update, when my work out ended, it would continue to count and count down and I 
had to power it off.  Then another day it would crash for a whole day and when 
it finally come back on, there would be no power left it died until it was 
charged!  So there is my story.  So now I wait for the next one and this time 
I’ll not get the sports as I am wondering because it was sports it did this 
thing that got on my nerves!  How I miss my time piece though.

 

Kawal. 

On 10 Dec 2015, at 22:00, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I'm waiting until quarter 2 of 2016, when the second generation should arrive. 
I'd love to hear what you (the OP) disliked; all the better to make as informed 
a choice as I can when we see what the updated hardware has.

On Dec 10, 2015, at 15:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I'm actually very very highly considerring getting one at the beginning of next 
year.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Donna Goodin   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:35 PM

Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

 

I completely agree!  I'm still very happy with mine.  Do let us know, Kawal. 

Cheers,

Donna

On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Daniel Miller mailto:miller...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That’s what I’d like to know as well. I absolutely love mine, and don’t notice 
any accessibility concerns at all. 

Now do I wish the hardware could’ve been a little faster? Yes, but for a 
first-generation product that’s had 2 major updates since it’s launch, it’s 
quite remarkable.

 

On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Scott Granados mailto:sc...@qualityip.net> > wrote:

 

Wow, I thought you liked the watch.  What did you find frustrating about it? 

 

I was going to get one but it sounds like a new one will be released early in 
2016.

 

 

On Dec 9, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I gave up on my Apple watch today as I was not happy with it. 

 

I don’t think the latest update did it any favours!  So I gave it up and sold 
it.  Now I wait for the next generation and I hope it will be more functional 
than what it was as I’d like a little more independence from the phone!

I'm fundraising for RNIB.

Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money Giving 
page. 

To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit 
http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland where you can also sponsor me 
online.

 

 

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RE: mac app store

[george b]

Yes I have many times just do a v o d to show the doc and hit escape and it is 
back

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 19:17
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac app store

 

Yes, I've been experiencing this a lot in El Capitan. The way I fix it is to 
shut down VO and start it again.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 10/12/2015, at 2:33 PM, denise avant mailto:denise.av...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello all,
I noticed that when I go into the app store on the MAC there appears  to be 
nothing on the screen. in fact, when i press keys, all I hear his a little ping 
sound. Has anyone had this problem?
I have never encountered this before.

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RE: Apple music conspiracy.

[george b]

Who your off the grid.  Maybe you need to turn off your fad in/out
All your songs have the time and I just timed one and it was rite on

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 03:54
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Apple music conspiracy.

Hi!
I might be a bit strange but sometimes i wonder if songs on apple music has 
been shortened.
Its just a feeling i have when listen to music i have on my ipad.
It sounds like songs are fading out faster then they should.
I don’t say i am right and i do hope i am so wrong i can bee.
What do you all think.
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RE: mp3 files the same on the mac as windows?

[george b]

Yes the same and do the same with the mac

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 08:10
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: mp3 files the same on the mac as windows?

 

Hi everyone,  when I was using windows and I had a mp3 either on a thumb drive 
or downloaded from the net, I would add it to the automatically add to itunes 
folder and done.

The next time I connected my phone the mp3 file would get transferred to my 
phone and I always had the file in my itunes library.

Does it work the same way on the mac?

Thanks Zoe

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RE: ios gamil password question

[george b]

I had this and apple accessability helped me and since it is a google account 
you just need to deleate the email account on your I o s device and re create 
it and it will ask for your password when your setting it up.

 

It is a google thing

 

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On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 15:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios gamil password question

 

Hello, hello this might sound a little bit tedious but what about just deleting 
the account and re-adding it on the Mac.

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7...@gmail.com  

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

Twitter

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 

 

FaceTime/iMessage

jhud7...@yahoo.com  

 

On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Jean mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello All:

I changed my gmail password using my Mac. When I went to change it on my iphone 
I went into email settings and accounts. I find all of the account settings 
there such as name and outgoing server but I don’t find the setting to enter a 
new password. Where do I find the place to change my password?

Thanks,
Jean

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RE: T-Mobile selling 128GB iPhone for 16GB price

[george b]

Well craig all the newer iPhones have all formats built into the phone and they 
are all simmed now so you can do any carrier with the latest iPhones

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Craig Werner
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 15:04
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: T-Mobile selling 128GB iPhone for 16GB price

 

Mary, that's a wonderful idea, but I'm quite sure Verizon doesn't support GSM 
technology, the protocol in use by T-mobile.

 

Craig


On Thursday, December 3, 2015, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well, if I had not just bought a 64gb  iPhone, I would be running over to 
T-Mobile right now. But I can't justify it darn it. Will have to tell a friend 
of mine who is about to buy a new phone that maybe he can get one from Tmo and 
then authorize it on Verizon his carrier of choice.
Mary

Mary


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On Dec 3, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:

I just called T-Mobile.

 

The reduced phone prices are available to existing or new customers.  They just 
aren’t moving a lot of 128 MB models which makes sense with all the streaming 
options.  I spoke to someone in the Dallas office.

 

Your milage may very but it sounds promising anyway.

 

On Dec 3, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:

 

http://9to5mac.com/2015/12/03/verizon-t-mobile-promotions/In the article link 
above, this offer is only four people switching from AT&T. Nice offer, but not 
as open as one might have wished. Too bad Verizon folks. Smile.
Mary
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On Dec 3, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:

It is an unlocked phone, not sure where the idea they sell locked devices comes 
from.  If you finance they lock the IMEI but the phone itself is unlocked or at 
least everything I have bought from them has been unlocked.

I believe anyone can call up and get this deal, it’s not restricted to customer 
type.  I haven’t tried to call them to order one though.




On Dec 3, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:

 

Is that for new customers, switchers? Sweet deal. Too bad it's not just an 
unlocked phone. That would be pretty awesome.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPad

 

On Dec 3, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:

 

Hi, just a heads up that Redmond Pie is announcing that T-Mobile is selling the 
128GB iPhone for the 16GB price.  This means 699  I believe instead of 899 .

 

This is a nice savings.  Might be worth adding to some readers christmas lists. 
 

 

Enjoy

 

 

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RE: Facebook randomly not Connecting to Messages

[george b]

Well I would say it is a facebook issue since I have the same

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Subject: Facebook randomly not Connecting to Messages

Hello everyone,
Last night, Facebook decided to randomly stop connecting to Messages. When I 
try to connect it, it asks for my password because it can’t connect. I type it 
in, and the same glitch happens. I type in my correct password, and the exact 
same message pops up…any suggestions?

thanks so much,
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RE: Anyone know if there's a way to edit text messages on the Apple watch?

[george b]

Donna,

If you go to the watch app on your phone there is a place where you can change 
/ edit the preset replies to your liking though

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That's what I suspected. Thanks for confirming.
Cheers,
Donna 

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> Hi,
> 
> Unfortunately, it’s not possible.
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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>> Haven't yet figured out how to do this, but it would be handy.  Anyone know 
>> if this is possible?
>> TIA,
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RE: how to keep iTunes from starting

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When iTunes is opened under the summery collum there is a check box you need to 
put a check in to not have start when device is plugged in

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Subject: how to keep iTunes from starting

I thought I remembered a keystroke that would keep iTunes from launching 
automatically when I plug the iPhone into my mac.  Sometimes I just want to 
charge it and not have it sync and do all the other crap that it does when 
connecting a phone.
Anybody know this keystroke?
Thanks,
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RE: should it be taking this long?

[george b]

Go to where you clicked backup and see if v o tells you it is dimmed

 

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Subject: should it be taking this long?

 

All most 3 hours ago I clicked menu extras, time machine, back up now.  I have 
an external drive connected should it be taking this long?  How can I know the 
progress or time left for the back up to finish?

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RE: ok got an external now what?

[george b]

Do the following
Voice over and m m

This is control option m m and you are in the extra menu across the top of the 
screen
Now voice over and right arrow to you hear time capseul then voice over and 
down arrow in the menu to what you want
The first is backup and if you do a voice over and spacebar it will start the 
first backup and it will take a while for the first one just let it go.

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On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:30
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Subject: RE: ok got an external now what?

Hi there, I connected the drive to the mac and I clicked the mac instal dmg 
file and it asked me if I want this drive for the mac and the pc and of course 
I said yes.  Anyhow long story short I restarted the computer and according to 
the mac the install was successful.
How do I view the files on this drive? And how do I start the back up? Anyone 
have ideas?

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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think of it as 
a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the 
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something 
> called mac installer.dmg So do I conect the hard drive and then click 
> that?
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RE: Good Speakers for iPhone

[george b]

Get a ue boom they come in 3 different sizes the smallest would work great for 
you

It is
Ueboom.com


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Subject: Re: Good Speakers for iPhone

Talking about bluetooth speakers, does anyone use a showerproof bluetooth 
speaker and how do they perform?  I'm looking for a speaker I could safely use 
in the bathroom while in the bath.  I'm reluctant to use my ipad or iphone in 
the bathroom as there's a lot of moisture in the bathroom and I might destroy 
the devices.

I remember somebody on the list had mentioned a water-proof or shower-proof 
speaker but I can't remember who it was.

Andrew
> On 16 Nov 2015, at 15:32, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Hi Jim,
> 
> Also worth checking out is the Bose Soundlink mini II speaker.
> 
> For the price it pumps out  incredible room filling volume.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
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> 
> On 11/16/2015 2:38 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> Thanks, I'll check it out.
>> Jim
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Gabe Griffith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have a dlink speaker by magic box that works pretty good. It has a micro 
>>> SD card slot and charges via micro USB. It can connect via audio cable or 
>>> bluetooth. I got it on amazon for about $30.
>>> 
>>> Gabe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
>>> 
 Just good playback and volume that I can plug my iPhone into.  Not really 
 sure.  Just looking at options.
 How have you been BTW?
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Chris G  wrote:
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> Do you want Micro SD card or USB playback, or just volume and great sound?
> 
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> On 11/15/2015 5:47 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> Hi all!
>> I wonder if somebody can make a recommendation for good speakers for 
>> iPhone.  I need some volume and size does not matter.  I need them to be 
>> powerful enough to play for a pretty good sized room so am not looking 
>> for wireless or blue tooth necessarily.  I don't even know where to 
>> start looking there is so much out there.  I guess they'd need to have a 
>> built-in amplifier?  Not sure if the iPhone would be powerful enough.
>> Excuse my lack of knowledge but this is a new thing for me.
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
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RE: How to delete apps on an iPhone with 3-d touch?

[george b]

While holding tap with another finger anywhere on the screen and you get the 
deleatd dialog window

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Hi all,

Just wondering how to do this?  double tap and hold now opens the app, so what 
do you do to delete an app?
TIA,
Donna

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RE: Any interest in a review of the T-Mobile 4G LTE Cell Spot?

[george b]

Yes let us know I am getting one as soon as I scrounge up $25

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Subject: Any interest in a review of the T-Mobile 4G LTE Cell Spot?

If there’s any interest I’ll post my first day and unboxing impressions.

Thanks
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RE: Anyone using Kobi.TV

[george b]

On my p c. windows, I put in www.Kobi.TV  and I get a page of turkey exporter.  
It is like a online store.

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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 09:42
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Subject: Anyone using Kobi.TV

A buddy of mine mentioned Kobi.TV to me yesterday and it seems pretty 
interesting as you can get a ton of content from it. I installed it on my 2010 
Mac running Yosemite but get nothing but busy busy messages. Probably yet 
another client that just does not work well with VO but wanted to see if anyone 
is using it successfully. You can also get it on a jail broken iPhone but I 
have yet to jail break an iPhone. Let us know if anyone is using it. Thanks,

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RE: frustrated about Apple accessibility

[george b]

Yes, when you call the accessibility line it s how to use the features of 
accessibility.  Now, saying that they do not trouble shoot software issues 
unless you can produce the issue while running a accessibility product like 
voice over.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 07:24
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: frustrated about Apple accessibility

 

I think you're seeing a bit of a coltural thing here.

 

If you could prove that the slowdowns only occurred when running your 
activities with voiceover enabled but not when voiceover is disabled, that 
might give them some clue.  Or if you made activities to perform voiceover 
related tasks, then they might be willing to pitch in.

 

As an access technologist who made money at teaching AT, I often understood 
that my customers needed help.  So for example, if I went in to a home to teach 
the computer and the toilet was broken, I'd fix the toilet if it was only going 
to take a couple of minutes.  Real situation.  It actually happened just that 
way.  As some one who only dealt with people with disabilities,  I understood 
that there were times when I had to crack the wip and keep my customer on the 
learning path, but that there were also times when just making conversation for 
some one who hadnt interacted with another human being in days was just as 
important.

 

It's a different culture at apple.  They have mainstream priorities and they 
need to be extremely task oriented.  Sometimes I think they carry it a bit too 
far, but they do have to follow the protocol and do things just so or they 
could potentially lose their job.  So,  You have got to be very specific about 
documenting your issue and make sure that both it is accessibility related, and 
that you explain how it is accessibility related.

 

Also as some one else said, you've got to use all the avenues open to you.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Erik Burggraaf

 

On Nov 4, 2015, at 2:56 PM, William Windels mailto:william.wind...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Listers,

 

Here I am not speaking of me questions about activities but about the reaction 
of accessibility.

 

This is the second time I receive such kind of a answer from accessibility.

short explanation:

I ask Apple accessibility why my macbook goes so slow when I have build some 
activities  and switch between the programs that are inserted in the activities.

They told me that they can’t  give support  from this mail-adres  and that I 
should contact the (paid) service apple care.

 

In the past, I thought they should ask more steps so that they can try to 
reproduce  the issue.

or in the worst case: “we wil forward this to the appropriated people”.

 

I have never seen this before, and you?

 

All comments are very welcome.

 

Kind regards,

William Windels

 





Begin doorgestuurd bericht:

 

Van: Apple Accessibility mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> >

Datum: 4 november 2015 22:48:48 CET

Aan: william.wind...@gmail.com  

Onderwerp: Antw.: activities in voiceover and osx 10.11.1; Follow-up: 631145322

 

Hello,

 

Thank you for writing to Apple. You have reached the Apple feedback address for 
accessibility.

 

We are unable to provide technical support through this email address. For 
technical support, we ask that you please contact AppleCare via telephone or 
use the Contact Apple Support link to begin an online support session.

 

http://www.apple.com/support/contact/

 

http://www.apple.com/support/contact/phone_contacts.html

 

Apple Accessibility

 

For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/

On November 03, 2015 at 23:27:32 PM GMT,   
william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:




Hello,

I have discovered that activities for particular programs are making the system 
more slow.
It seems that loading the activity for the particular program, takes much power 
of the cpu and memory of my macbook.
I was thinking not to load the activities when a specific program opens but 
load it myself when I go to a select program.
This goes much faster.

However, the activities isn’t loaded as expected when I select the specific 
activitie.

IN attachment a copy of my activities that wan’t load properly.
It should turn on quicknav and the letters on webpages should be active.

Any hints?

Kind regards,
William Windels

 

 

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RE: T-Mobile’s network extender lets anyone use your Internet bandwidth

[george b]

Yes, just like sprints version and also the t-mobile assus router they give you 
for free you can have as many devices by assigned number locked to the device 
in my case I will have 2 phones, and 1 pad.



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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 05:55
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Cc: VIPhone 'ChalmersAS' via ; eyes-free 'Robert 
Montowski' via 
Subject: Re: T-Mobile’s network extender lets anyone use your Internet bandwidth

Seems like a piece where the author didn’t do homework.

You can lock down the service to your own phones if you want or leave it open 
for anyone to use.  There’s no risk in leaving it open other than using 
bandwidth which depends on how much bandwidth you have total whether you care 
or not.  If you lock the device down then it will only work on your phones.

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Here is a little more information on that team mobile device.
> Mary
> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/11/t-mobiles-network-extender-lets-anyone-use-your-internet-bandwidth/
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> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: stand alone or all in one

[george b]

yes

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does it have a document feeder?

> On Nov 3, 2015, at 7:05 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> If you go stand alone, get a ix 500 fojetso they work great
> 
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> 
> Hi all!
> A few days ago I asked about the all-in-one printer/scanner/copier machines.  
> I still have not made a decision but was wondering if I got a stand alone 
> scanner and separate printer if anybody has recommendations for scanners.  I 
> have ABBYY fine reader for my mac and like it pretty well.  Also have access 
> to Kurzweil so could use it as well.
> Which brings up another question about fine reader, I wonder if there is any 
> way to tell the page orientation, like Kurzweil has that keystroke that will 
> tell you "top of the page is at the right edge of the scanner."  That would 
> be a nice feature if that's not available.
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RE: stand alone or all in one

[george b]

Hi
If you go stand alone, get a ix 500 fojetso they work great

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Hi all!
A few days ago I asked about the all-in-one printer/scanner/copier machines.  I 
still have not made a decision but was wondering if I got a stand alone scanner 
and separate printer if anybody has recommendations for scanners.  I have ABBYY 
fine reader for my mac and like it pretty well.  Also have access to Kurzweil 
so could use it as well.
Which brings up another question about fine reader, I wonder if there is any 
way to tell the page orientation, like Kurzweil has that keystroke that will 
tell you "top of the page is at the right edge of the scanner."  That would be 
a nice feature if that's not available.
Thanks,
Jim

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RE: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot

[george b]

Scott,

I went to the link you sent earlier and no article there just a bunch of apple 
info and 
RIFD reader and iPhones
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Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 09:10
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot

George, this is not what you want.

This requires you have a decent signal outside to pick up.  More of an in 
building system.

The 4G LTE sell spot connects to your network and then broadcasts an LTE signal 
in your home that can handle up to 16 parallel calls.

Either option is free but you want the true cellspot, not the booster.

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I just called T-Mobile and ordered it over the phone. They did all the setup 
> work then shipped the units already assigned to my account.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:44 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, where / how did you get these, please thanks
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 08:30
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot
>> 
>> Hello,
>> We got this cel booster about 2 months ago and We love it. We have 3 phones 
>> on our account and we get usually around -69 DB or around 4 Bars, if you 
>> will. Between the devices, the coverage is fantastic. 
>> So you have 2 units. 1 unit goes near a window where the best available 
>> signal is found and the other unit is placed somewhere in your home to get 
>> complete coverage.
>> The only thing is that you need a sighted person to read the displays to 
>> determine where the best placement is.
>> But once you have them in place, that's the end of it and you don't ever 
>> need to be concerned any more about how the units are working.
>> The units are identical in looks so you have to make sure that the units are 
>> placed accordingly.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> T-Mobile finally offers a micro cell tower that you can attach to your home 
>>> network.  Unlike other carriers this supports the full 4G LTE feature set 
>>> and is free to customers.  Read more here.
>>> 
>>> http://9to5mac.com/2015/11/02/t-mobile-4g-lte-cellspot/rf
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RE: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot

[george b]

Do they have to be plugged into the net or are they wyfi

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On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 08:50
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot

Hello,
I just called T-Mobile and ordered it over the phone. They did all the setup 
work then shipped the units already assigned to my account.


Dan

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:44 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Dan, where / how did you get these, please thanks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 08:30
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot
> 
> Hello,
> We got this cel booster about 2 months ago and We love it. We have 3 phones 
> on our account and we get usually around -69 DB or around 4 Bars, if you 
> will. Between the devices, the coverage is fantastic. 
> So you have 2 units. 1 unit goes near a window where the best available 
> signal is found and the other unit is placed somewhere in your home to get 
> complete coverage.
> The only thing is that you need a sighted person to read the displays to 
> determine where the best placement is.
> But once you have them in place, that's the end of it and you don't ever need 
> to be concerned any more about how the units are working.
> The units are identical in looks so you have to make sure that the units are 
> placed accordingly.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> T-Mobile finally offers a micro cell tower that you can attach to your home 
>> network.  Unlike other carriers this supports the full 4G LTE feature set 
>> and is free to customers.  Read more here.
>> 
>> http://9to5mac.com/2015/11/02/t-mobile-4g-lte-cellspot/rf
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RE: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot

[george b]

Dan, where / how did you get these, please
thanks

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On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 08:30
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: T-Mobile launches true 4G LTE Micro Cell spot

Hello,
We got this cel booster about 2 months ago and We love it. We have 3 phones on 
our account and we get usually around -69 DB or around 4 Bars, if you will. 
Between the devices, the coverage is fantastic. 
So you have 2 units. 1 unit goes near a window where the best available signal 
is found and the other unit is placed somewhere in your home to get complete 
coverage.
The only thing is that you need a sighted person to read the displays to 
determine where the best placement is.
But once you have them in place, that's the end of it and you don't ever need 
to be concerned any more about how the units are working.
The units are identical in looks so you have to make sure that the units are 
placed accordingly.

Dan

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> T-Mobile finally offers a micro cell tower that you can attach to your home 
> network.  Unlike other carriers this supports the full 4G LTE feature set and 
> is free to customers.  Read more here.
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> http://9to5mac.com/2015/11/02/t-mobile-4g-lte-cellspot/rf
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RE: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.

[george b]

Then what are the best speakers 

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 05:49
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.

B&W speakers are usually pretty good.  I’ve had good luck with them in higher 
end audio installations.


> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Kawal.
> 
> It's a great speaker if the reviews are any indication.
> 
> The control app seems to work well with VoiceOver although there are some 
> unlabeled buttons.
> 
> Looking forward to the product.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 11/1/2015 8:07 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak of.
>> 
>> Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
>> Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look at 
>> this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have experience with these speakers?
>>> 
>>> Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Yours truly,
>>> 
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RE: transferring folders from windows

[george b]

What version of windows are you running?
You need to zip the folder and then it becomes oneitem as a folder
Then put it on the root of the thumb drive

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On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 12:03
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Subject: Re: transferring folders from windows

Yes, I’m using a flash drive.  Is there some place in particular I need to put 
them?

Marie Lyons On Nov 1, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
 wrote:
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> are you using a flash drive?
>> Il giorno 31 ott 2015, alle ore 7:05 PM, Marie Lyons  
>> ha scritto:
>> 
>> I have been slowly transferring documents from my pc to iMac. I have run 
>> into difficulty when it’s a folder with multiple documents inside.  I can’t 
>> figure to save the whole folder as one unit.  Any help appreciated.
>> 
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RE: Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to my mac?

[george b]

yes

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Subject: Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to 
my mac?

I think the answer to this question is probably know, but I thought I would ask 
anyway. I generally try to avoid buying music using my phone. But, I just 
bought some stuff using the Russian keyboard on my phone and now I'm wondering 
how I'm going to get that into my iTunes library on the Mac. I do have iTunes 
match also. And I do not have anything in my library that is not something I 
purchased or ripped. Should I suppose that the things I bought are going to 
show up on my mac? Or do I have to transfer the purchases using iTunes on the 
Mac?
Mary


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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

Well you have t mobile, and if you have the jump program just do like I did and 
I have the case which is fuzzy inside and rubber on the outside and is not 
waterproof and the entire front of the phone is exposed, but so what since you 
have the no questions asked replacement for the device

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:38
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

I definitely can but I was wanting ideas as to what to replace it with?
I won’t take another of the same type because it will probably fail the same 
way.

That more clear?

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Why not go  back to the store if it was their error?
> 
> Regards,
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>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
>> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
>> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
>> unsupported configuration.  
>> 
>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

I did not like lifeproof after a while because the ports for the front and back 
camers got hasy after a while and had to clean them by taking out of the case.  
Otter box is I agree to big and you know the new phones have the really tough 
glass 

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:37
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Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go during 
the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours which will 
lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the weekend but It’s 
still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t really like otter box 
although was thinking of trying them again, a little bulky for my taste.  

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:24
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m 
> told the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Well scott,
>> 
>> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
>> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
>> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
>> unsupported configuration.  
>> 
>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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RE: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[george b]

Well the issue is I can only find a 32 bit windows 7 and it will I am assuming 
will not let me upgrade to 64 bit will it?

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:21
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

If you have a copy of an earlier version of windows you can download and 
install windows 10 for free.


> On Oct 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest VMFusion but no windows.  I need to get Windows 10 just to 
> try it.
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 13:52, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM 
>> are sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although 
>> this is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that 
>> unrelated Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. 
>> They've done really well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and 
>> I started out with VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.
>> 
>> Nicolai
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten 
>>> very good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know 
>>> some on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a 
>>> lot to be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who 
>>> started with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten 
>>> so much easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while 
>>> in the VM through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and 
>>> shutdown of VMs, the windows initial registration and setup worked and the 
>>> integration with a laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works 
>>> great.  Anyone else agree or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no 
>>> better.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
>>> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my 
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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it

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It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m told 
the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
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> Well scott,
> 
> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
> 
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> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> Hi,
> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
> unsupported configuration.  
> 
> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
> 
> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

Well scott,

How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

Hi,
I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof case 
but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed and now 
life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an unsupported 
configuration.  

So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

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RE: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[george b]

Well oe somedays you just are not happy that was straight from the address bar 
in i.e.  didn’t know I had to edit for you

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 15:02
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

George thanks and thanks to the other individual that gave me a nice suggestion 
I will definitely put your suggestion to her head. And to George, I will have 
to tell you that you give me a really long link. And Linstedt wrap over I just 
sometimes not good. 

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On Oct 29, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Joe here is a start for them 

A list of stores from google below

 

https://www.google.com/search?site= 
<https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&oq=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&gs_l=hp.3...1373.13737.0.14149.45.34.0.11.11.0.129.2510.32j2.34.00...1c.1.64.hp..5.40.2563.IqurKAJLCSs>
 
&source=hp&q=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&oq=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&gs_l=hp.3...1373.13737.0.14149.45.34.0.11.11.0.129.2510.32j2.34.00...1c.1.64.hp..5.40.2563.IqurKAJLCSs

 

hth

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 20:02
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

George, she's in Stockton California

On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

We need to know what area

 

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Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live in 
California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. She 
knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others that I 
can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, and she 
already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?

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RE: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] still no new message sound in Mail

[george b]

Tell me what to do to make a custom sound please
thanks

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On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 13:57
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] still no new message sound in Mail

   Do you have a custom sound you can copy into your user library/sounds 
folder?  If so, I would try using that one just to see if that works.


Take Care

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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, John its Katie. I tried using the glass sound effect when I checked for 
> new mail 2 days ago, and nothing happened. Then I went back to the new mail 
> sound and when I check for new messages, I still don’t hear anything. I’m 
> having  no luck at this. In mail preferences in the general tab, I have the 
> checkbox checked for play sounds for other mail actions. In the notification 
> center, I have alerts and sounds checked for the mail app. The notification 
> center is something new I haven’t seen on my Mac before since I upgraded from 
> Snow Leopard. I’m not sure why this isn’t working.
> Do you have any other ideas? Should I have someone at the Apple store look at 
> my Mac again?
> Thanks.
> Katie
>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  I’d try the original new mail sound and see what happens. I am using it 
>> now, though I do prefer my custom sound and will probably go back to using 
>> it, since it was working.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, John. Normally I have the new message sound selected in Mail, but I 
>>> changed the sound effect to glass instead. I checked the box after that 
>>> when it said select ellipsis and closed out of mail preferences. I sent a 
>>> test email to myself and thought the glass sound was going to work, but 
>>> nothing happened when I got the email. Should I go back to the default mail 
>>> sound or select a different sound?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Katie
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:52 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
 Did you try messing with the popup menu for the new mail sound and try 
 different options. I just changed mine back to the default sound and it is 
 working. It was not working initially, which was why I was using a custom 
 sound I put on the system. However, now it is working.
 
 
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> On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mark and George. That’s exactly what happens to me with Mail too. I 
> get the swishing send mail sound but no new mail sound when I receive 
> messages. All the other sound effects and Voiceover work fine on my Mac.
> I guess there’s a few of us that have this problem besides me. I’m glad 
> I’m not the only one.
> Katie
>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Katie,
>> 
>> I'm curious, are you hearing sound effects in other applications such as 
>> the Messages app?
>> 
>> Be sure that your system sound preferences are set correctly.  
>> 
>> Please do the following:  
>> 
>> Note, the following steps assume that you are using only the computer's 
>> internal speakers for sound output.
>> 
>> 1.
>> With all applications closed, from the Apple Menu, select System 
>> Preferences.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Sounds.  A dialogue box will open containing three Tabs labeled 
>> Sound Effects, Output, and Input.
>> 
>> 3.
>> On the Sound Effects tab, make certain that the "Play sound effects 
>> through" option is set to Internal speakers.
>> 
>> 4.
>> On the Output tab, set the "select a device for output" option to 
>> internal speakers.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Close the dialogue box.
>> 
>> Now, open the mail application and see what happens.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Mail in EL Captain

[george b]

Yes it has changed, but I can not tell you at the moment the keystroke I am not 
at my mac

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of denise avant
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mail in EL Captain

Hello all,
I am running the latest version of El Capitan I am wondering if the command for 
moving to the top of the mail messages has changed. When I interact with the 
mail messages, and press function_vo-shift left arrow, I only move up about 
five messages instead to the very top. hav I missed something. thanks.

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RE: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[george b]

Scott email me off list I removed v m from my m b p 13 and wish to pick your 
brain what is left of it.

Thqanks

Go 49er's beat those rams

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 06:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten very 
good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know some on 
list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a lot to be 
desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who started with 
Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten so much easier to 
use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while in the VM through 
voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and shutdown of VMs, the 
windows initial registration and setup worked and the integration with a laptop 
(power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great.  Anyone else agree or am  I 
some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)

I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my case 
I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and the other 
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RE: Curious About Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[george b]

Can I inport my quicken account into checkbook pro?

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Hi:
I use Checkbook Pro. I love it! The software is completely accessible. Splasm 
customer service is awesome. I’ve beta tested some for thim in regards to 
Voiceover.
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been looking for an OSX app that is generally similar to the Windows 
> “Talking Checkbook” and have found “Checkbook” and “Checkbook Pro” so far.  
> After reading the descriptions for these apps that the “Pro” version is 
> probably more than I need.  I do have several questions about both or either 
> versions:
> 
> - Is anyone out here a user of either version?
> - Are these apps effectively developed to work with VoiceOver?
> - Is customer support genuinely responsive to the requirements of blind 
> customers?
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
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RE: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[george b]

Joe here is a start for them 

A list of stores from google below

 

https://www.google.com/search?site= 
<https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&oq=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&gs_l=hp.3...1373.13737.0.14149.45.34.0.11.11.0.129.2510.32j2.34.00...1c.1.64.hp..5.40.2563.IqurKAJLCSs>
 
&source=hp&q=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&oq=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california&gs_l=hp.3...1373.13737.0.14149.45.34.0.11.11.0.129.2510.32j2.34.00...1c.1.64.hp..5.40.2563.IqurKAJLCSs

 

hth

 

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On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 20:02
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Subject: Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

George, she's in Stockton California

On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

We need to know what area

 

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Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live in 
California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. She 
knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others that I 
can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, and she 
already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?

Joseph Hudson

Email

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I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

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Twitter

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RE: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[george b]

We need to know what area

 

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On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 15:08
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Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live in 
California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. She 
knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others that I 
can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, and she 
already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?

Joseph Hudson

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RE: ios9 notifications

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Because I read my mail from newest to oldest and it the emails are in the same 
reply do not have to read others down the list.

That is why

How is that

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios9 notifications

Why? The answer she received came to the list.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/28/2015 8:34 AM, george b wrote:
> Lol what was it?
>
> You need to reply with the email posted you replied to
>
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean
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> That was it, thanks so much.
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RE: ios9 notifications

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Lol what was it?

You need to reply with the email posted you replied to 

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David:
That was it, thanks so much.
Jean

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RE: still no new message sound in Mail

[george b]

Well my issue is that I get the send mail sound but do not get the new mail 
sound

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Subject: RE: still no new message sound in Mail

Hello Katie,

I'm curious, are you hearing sound effects in other applications such as the 
Messages app?

Be sure that your system sound preferences are set correctly.  

Please do the following:  

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internal speakers for sound output.

1.
With all applications closed, from the Apple Menu, select System Preferences.

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Effects, Output, and Input.

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On the Sound Effects tab, make certain that the "Play sound effects through" 
option is set to Internal speakers.

4.
On the Output tab, set the "select a device for output" option to internal 
speakers.

5.
Close the dialogue box.

Now, open the mail application and see what happens.

Good Luck,

Mark

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On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow
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Subject: still no new message sound in Mail

Hi, everyone. I just updated to OS 10.11.1 today. I’m still not getting any new 
message sound when I receive something in Mail. I thought Apple was going to 
fix this. I decided for now to just get alerts for mail in notification center 
so I'll know when I get new email for now. Has anyone else had this problem 
after they updated?
I hope the next update Apple releases has that mail sound fixed.
Katie

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RE: Urgent… Possibility of needing a new power cord?

[george b]

Make sure the connector on the corde is clean and also the connector on the 
mac.  There was a person here who had a issue like that and they found a staple 
in the female connection of the mac book pro sucked in by the magnet

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Subject: Urgent… Possibility of needing a new power cord?

Guys,
So I'm not sure exactly what to do here. This might just be a faulty power 
cord, although this just happened yesterday. I let my Mac completely die, and 
went to plug it in. I left it plugged in, and then turned it on late last night 
to send an email. The Mac would not turn on, it wouldn't even turn on when I 
press and hold the power button and then turn it on again. I've tried a few 
different plugs, and still nothing. It just seems pretty strange that one this 
is a new battery and cord, and two. That if this is in fact those issues, that 
is just what happened right as I make the Mac die.
If anybody has any suggestions for a possible fix, other then getting a new 
power cord which I can't afford at the moment, that would be excellent.
You even by the old power cords for the 2011 mac?

Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist Macintosh trainer Canadian phone: 
5199629140 U.S. Phone: 5734011018 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Navigating to End of Table

[george b]

Ann,

 

It would be nice if you know the new commands to let us in on the sevret please.

 

thanks

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 23:35
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigating to End of Table

 

Hello Brandon,

 

They’ve switched the commands for Go to last visible Item and go to last Item 
in El Capitán.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

On 23 Oct 2015, at 22:31, Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) 
mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

In previous versions of OS X, you could use the end-of-window command 
(vo-function-shift-right arrow) to navigate to the end of a table. However, 
now, that simply takes me to the end of the page. There seems to be no easy way 
of jumping to the end of a table, so that I can quickly navigate past it to the 
rest of the page. Is there some new command, or way of doing this?

 

 

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RE: Navigating to End of Table

[george b]

In the table do a function control option right arrow, no shift

 

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Subject: Navigating to End of Table

 

Hello,

 

In previous versions of OS X, you could use the end-of-window command 
(vo-function-shift-right arrow) to navigate to the end of a table. However, 
now, that simply takes me to the end of the page. There seems to be no easy way 
of jumping to the end of a table, so that I can quickly navigate past it to the 
rest of the page. Is there some new command, or way of doing this?

 

 

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RE: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?

[george b]

True, but if it is a 7 mm you need the spacer

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 08:48
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?

Thickness doesn’t matter as a 2.5 inch bay should do the trick.

The tool he used to determine the type of drive takes this in to consideration.

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:43 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> The issue was asked what thickness is needed they already stated they 
> know the 2.5 square just needed the thickness
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 08:40
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?
> 
> My understanding is that it's not so hard finding a drive which fits. 
> The bigger difficulty is getting the things opened and disassembled to put 
> the new drive in.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/23/15 10:34 AM, george b wrote:
>> Here is link on how to replace and sizes
>> 
>> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac+Mini+Mid+2011+Hard+Drive+Replacement
>> /
>> 6422
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 07:23
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Subject: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> My 64GB Air is simply too small for Xcode. It's time to resurrect my 2011 
>> Mac Mini, dead these last couple years due to a bad hard drive. I wanted to 
>> find out what drives work with this model, but there's surprisingly little 
>> online about it. I know I'll need a 2.5-inch drive, but beyond that I'm not 
>> sure. SATA version is my main concern, but I also don't know if there are 
>> size requirements I need to consider. If the drive is 2.5 inches and the 
>> interface works, that doesn't help if it's too fat to fit in the bay. Does 
>> anyone know what I should look for? Again, this Mini is from 2011. Thanks 
>> everyone.
>> 
>> --
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>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com
>> 
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RE: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?

[george b]

The issue was asked what thickness is needed they already stated they know the 
2.5 square just needed the thickness

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Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 08:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?

My understanding is that it's not so hard finding a drive which fits. 
The bigger difficulty is getting the things opened and disassembled to put the 
new drive in.

CB

On 10/23/15 10:34 AM, george b wrote:
> Here is link on how to replace and sizes
>
> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac+Mini+Mid+2011+Hard+Drive+Replacement/
> 6422
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 07:23
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Subject: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?
>
> Hi all,
> My 64GB Air is simply too small for Xcode. It's time to resurrect my 2011 Mac 
> Mini, dead these last couple years due to a bad hard drive. I wanted to find 
> out what drives work with this model, but there's surprisingly little online 
> about it. I know I'll need a 2.5-inch drive, but beyond that I'm not sure. 
> SATA version is my main concern, but I also don't know if there are size 
> requirements I need to consider. If the drive is 2.5 inches and the interface 
> works, that doesn't help if it's too fat to fit in the bay. Does anyone know 
> what I should look for? Again, this Mini is from 2011. Thanks everyone.
>
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
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RE: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?

[george b]

Here is link on how to replace and sizes

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac+Mini+Mid+2011+Hard+Drive+Replacement/6422



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Subject: 2011 Mac Mini hard drives?

Hi all,
My 64GB Air is simply too small for Xcode. It's time to resurrect my 2011 Mac 
Mini, dead these last couple years due to a bad hard drive. I wanted to find 
out what drives work with this model, but there's surprisingly little online 
about it. I know I'll need a 2.5-inch drive, but beyond that I'm not sure. SATA 
version is my main concern, but I also don't know if there are size 
requirements I need to consider. If the drive is 2.5 inches and the interface 
works, that doesn't help if it's too fat to fit in the bay. Does anyone know 
what I should look for? Again, this Mini is from 2011. Thanks everyone.

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RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

[george b]

So what you running for windows I am confused since you said you use paralles 
on a work computer for outlook

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 05:51
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

My understanding is parallels is not accessible.  I have not tried this in 
recent times so don’t know if it’s changed but I have ruled out parallels as a 
matter of course for accessibility reasons.

How’s that?

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 8:49 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Scott
> How do you like paralle for running windows compared to v m fusion 
> what are the pros and cons, please
> 
> thanks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 05:42
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's 
> Story
> 
> Definitely, I love apple mail.  I have outlook running in parallel on the 
> same machine for work and I much much prefer apple mail.  Good filtering, I 
> like the conversation view, nice snap to it unlike outlook.  Put me down as a 
> big fan of Apple mail.
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> I completely agree with you Scott,
>> 
>> Especially where the Mac Mail application is concerned.  I would argue that 
>> Mail is as good as it has ever been.  I have said it before and I'll say it 
>> again, were it not for the Mac Mail application, there is no way I could 
>> conceivably manage so many email messages so effortlessly.  Like you, Soctt, 
>> I do not use the classic view.  
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:49 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's 
>> Story
>> 
>> The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has 
>> seemed to indicate.  Definitely safari is working better and I never had 
>> mail issues but I don’t use the classic view.  Either way, mail is 
>> functioning nicely under 10.11.1 on this side anyway.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> 
>>> As a MacBook Air user of just under three months, I am posting a 
>>> little tale about my brief experience upgrading to El Capitan.  I do 
>>> this for two reasons: to acquaint new users thinking of upgrading 
>>> with one rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of 
>>> commentary from more experienced users.
>>> 
>>> As someone who has come up through the ranks of CP/M, MS-DOS, 
>>> Windows, and Apple iOS, I am no newcomer to the world of computers.
>>> In July, I bought a MacBook Air, which came with Yosemite 10.10.3, 
>>> which I upgraded to 10.10.5 in early September.  I love reading 
>>> documentation, so I threw myself happily into reading lots of 
>>> VoiceOver and OS X resources, including Tim Sniffen's and Janet 
>>> Ingber's books, AppleVis posts, and various podcasts, supplemented 
>>> by generous chunks of David Pogue's _Yosemite: the Missing Manual_.  
>>> The learning curve was steep, but I almost enjoyed my first few weeks.
>>> Troubled by some bugs, notably in Mac Mail, I wondered if I should upgrade 
>>> to El Capitan.
>>> Years and years of caution prompted my inner voice to urge me to 
>>> stay put and be patient as I learned; but one day in October, I took 
>>> the plunge.  Buoyed by my success at upgrading, I started to play 
>>> with El Capitan only to discover within a few minutes that not only 
>>> were the Mail bugs still present but also Safari often displayed a "busy"
>>> status at times when performing the same operations in Yosemite 
>>> produced happier results.
>>> 
>>> I decided to return to Yosemite 10.10.5, so, urged on by an Apple 
>>> Accessibility rep who told me I could downgrade without a bootable 
>>> drive, I decided to use Internet Recovery to restore the OS that 
>>> came with the machine.  Something went wrong during the attempt to 
>>> downgrade, and the Mac refused to acknowledge my router.  A couple 
>>> of earne

RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

[george b]

Scott
How do you like paralle for running windows compared to v m fusion what are the 
pros and cons, please

thanks

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 05:42
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

Definitely, I love apple mail.  I have outlook running in parallel on the same 
machine for work and I much much prefer apple mail.  Good filtering, I like the 
conversation view, nice snap to it unlike outlook.  Put me down as a big fan of 
Apple mail.

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> I completely agree with you Scott,
> 
> Especially where the Mac Mail application is concerned.  I would argue that 
> Mail is as good as it has ever been.  I have said it before and I'll say it 
> again, were it not for the Mac Mail application, there is no way I could 
> conceivably manage so many email messages so effortlessly.  Like you, Soctt, 
> I do not use the classic view.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:49 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's 
> Story
> 
> The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has 
> seemed to indicate.  Definitely safari is working better and I never had mail 
> issues but I don’t use the classic view.  Either way, mail is functioning 
> nicely under 10.11.1 on this side anyway.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, everyone.
>> 
>> As a MacBook Air user of just under three months, I am posting a 
>> little tale about my brief experience upgrading to El Capitan.  I do 
>> this for two reasons: to acquaint new users thinking of upgrading 
>> with one rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of 
>> commentary from more experienced users.
>> 
>> As someone who has come up through the ranks of CP/M, MS-DOS, 
>> Windows, and Apple iOS, I am no newcomer to the world of computers.  
>> In July, I bought a MacBook Air, which came with Yosemite 10.10.3, 
>> which I upgraded to 10.10.5 in early September.  I love reading 
>> documentation, so I threw myself happily into reading lots of 
>> VoiceOver and OS X resources, including Tim Sniffen's and Janet 
>> Ingber's books, AppleVis posts, and various podcasts, supplemented by 
>> generous chunks of David Pogue's _Yosemite: the Missing Manual_.  The 
>> learning curve was steep, but I almost enjoyed my first few weeks.  
>> Troubled by some bugs, notably in Mac Mail, I wondered if I should upgrade 
>> to El Capitan.
>> Years and years of caution prompted my inner voice to urge me to stay 
>> put and be patient as I learned; but one day in October, I took the 
>> plunge.  Buoyed by my success at upgrading, I started to play with El 
>> Capitan only to discover within a few minutes that not only were the 
>> Mail bugs still present but also Safari often displayed a "busy"
>> status at times when performing the same operations in Yosemite 
>> produced happier results.
>> 
>> I decided to return to Yosemite 10.10.5, so, urged on by an Apple 
>> Accessibility rep who told me I could downgrade without a bootable 
>> drive, I decided to use Internet Recovery to restore the OS that came 
>> with the machine.  Something went wrong during the attempt to 
>> downgrade, and the Mac refused to acknowledge my router.  A couple of 
>> earnest attempts by Apple Accessibility personnel to help the machine 
>> recover failed, and I decided to take the computer into the nearby 
>> Apple Store for a clean install.  The bottom line is that the machine 
>> has been restored to its Day One state, so to speak, and I am quite 
>> content to wallow in Yosemite for the time being.
>> 
>> My point is simple: if you're new to this game, consider carefully 
>> whether the advantages you may gain when trying to upgrade are worth 
>> the risk.  Better to learn carefully what you don't know now than to 
>> add more layers which you may not have bargained for.
>> 
>> Some of you might be wondering why you have bothered to read 
>> something so self-evident.  All I can say is temptation doesn't 
>> always yield beneficial results.  At the risk of stating the obvious, 
>> I have stated the obvious.  
>> 
>> Craig
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RE: Microsoft office 2016 for mac

[george b]

Go to

www.microsoft.com/office

you look on that page and you can find the links to buy the office suites.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of denise avant
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 18:17
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Microsoft office 2016 for mac

Hello all,
I am trying to find a direct link to purchase office 2016 for mac. Does anyone 
have it? Do I have to purchase Microsoft 365 to use from the web or is there an 
app I purchase to download to my Mac? thanks for any assistance.

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RE: iPhone 6S question

[george b]

I can ditto scott's comments

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 05:33
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S question

Hi Gabe, your friend is on the crack pipe, the battery life in the 6s and 6s+ 
is better than the 6 and 6+ I would say by about 10 to 20% or so.

Also, I would encourage you to reconsider the plus option.  The extra real 
estate is nice for people with larger hands like myself and also there’s real 
optical stabilization of images instead of digital stabilization which can work 
a bit better for character recognition.  (I’m willing to be corrected on that 
this is what I have heard)
The 6S+ and 6S have far better cellular radios and work fantastically 
on the network as well as great WiFi support and the new processor makes things 
pop.  I would go 6S+ if I were you but if you still don’t want the + definitely 
6S.

Hope that helps.


> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm thinking of upgrading my phone from the 5c. I'm considering anything from 
> the 5s to the 6 to the 6s. I am not interested in the plus series. A friend 
> has told me not to get the 6s because the battery life sucks. I would like to 
> hear any experiences that people on this list have had with the 6s series of 
> phones in relation to battery life.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gabe
> 
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RE: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released as well as IOS 9.1

[george b]

Plug the phone into iTunes
Transfer all perchesses to iTunes from the phone
Back up the phone to iTunes not to the cloud
After backing up the phone make a archived backup

Now all that is done;

Remove your phone from iTunes just unplug the lighten out of the phone
Now turn off the phone

Now plug in the phone again
Start iTunes if you closed it
Now with iTunes running and phone plugged in;

Hold down the home button and the power button at the same time and  then let 
up on the power button, but keep the home button down to you hear the new 
screen red to you on your iTunes
Let up on the home gutton and follow the prompts on iTunes for what you want to 
do.

H t h

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released as well as IOS 9.1

I know this is been asked and answered many times, but let's do it one more. 
What is the best way to roll back from a public beta to an official release on 
the iPhone? Step-by-step instructions would be nice. Thanks. I promise to save 
it this time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wo!  Even an ITunes update?  Good Lord!  Yeah, I'm rolling my 6S now back 
> from the public beta to the official build.  I wanna see if the official 
> build still has the couple of glitches I was having.  They were not door 
> stoppers by any means, but they were however a little bit annoying.  We'll 
> see if this helps.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released as well as IOS 
> 9.1
> 
> 
>> Apple is busy today, IOS 9.1 is also available.
>> 
>> Downloading these now, also updates in iTunes.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If anyone updates to the latest build of osx10.11 please let us know if the 
>>> voiceover bugs have gone away?
>>> 
 On 10/21/2015 12:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Heads up, updates for El Capitan and Watch OS have been released. Update 
 em if you got em.
 
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RE: Saving Attachments with Mail in El Capitan

[george b]

When on the email in the in box hit enter / return

Now your in the email itself window and arrow up to you hear headders now arrow 
right to you hear a number the number of attachements in the mail

Now interact with that number and thenvo down arrow and there is a download and 
a download all

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 00:32
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Saving Attachments with Mail in El Capitan

 

Dear Mauricio,

 

I've just found an old post in my Mail application that has an attachment and I 
was able to save it via the file/save attachments menu without a problem.  I'm 
on El Capitan, macbook pro 2014.

 

Sorry yo are having problems with this.  I don't know what to suggest.

 

Best wishes

 

Andrew

On 21 Oct 2015, at 04:05, Mauricio Molina mailto:mauriciohmol...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi All, 

 

Since the upgrade to El Capitan, a friend has been unable to save attachments 
using the Save Attachments option in the File menu. When attempting to save 
attachments using this method, it appears that all is as it should be until the 
Save button is pressed at which time a dialog appears stating that the 
attachments could not be saved. A variety of different file types have been 
tried to no avail. While it is still possible to save attached files after 
interacting with the text in the open message, this means that the attachments 
would have to be saved one at a time. Is anyone else experiencing this and is 
there a workaround? 

 

Thanks, 

 

Mauricio

 

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RE: vmware fusion 8.01 with el capitan and windows 10 new bheavior

[george b]

Scott, email me off lest, please

I have some questions on v m fusion

thanks

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 06:52
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Subject: Re: vmware fusion 8.01 with el capitan and windows 10 new bheavior

I just got it to work using the setup wizard and narrator.  Not bad actually.

 

> On Oct 20, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Noel Romey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> What I did was set up a bootcamp partition and had Windows installed from 
> there using Apple.  I think I had to have sighted assistance.  If you use 
> VMWare to do it, it’s pretty automatic.  I need to boot into windows natively 
> sometimes so I did the bootcamp thing.
> 
> Noel
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Can I ask how you created your windows 10 VM?  Did you need sited assistance 
>> to set up the voice accessibility features or is there a trick to that now?
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Noel Romey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> Question for VMWare Fusion users.  I just upgraded to 8.01 yesterday.  I 
>>> have the modification set up so that caps lock works as insert and is 
>>> supposed to be sent to the VM.  I notice lately and especially with the 
>>> latest version of Fusion that most keys actually get sent to the VM, except 
>>> for the insert key.  One thing I haven’t tried is changing JAWS or NVDA to 
>>> use the insert key as modifier.  I’ll try that, but I noticed also that 
>>> when you move focus outside of the VM and try to turn off Voiceover (you 
>>> used to be able to do that  after the machine had started) command+f5 gets 
>>> sent to the VM as well.  Normally, this would be cool, but turning off 
>>> voiceover might be useful.  Is there a way around these various issues and 
>>> has anyone else also noticed the new behavior?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> NER
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RE: vmware fusion 8.01 with el capitan and windows 10 new bheavior

[george b]

If you did this in bootcamp why are you asking about v m fusion you do not need 
v m fusion in bootcamp

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Noel Romey
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 06:18
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vmware fusion 8.01 with el capitan and windows 10 new bheavior

Hi Scott,

What I did was set up a bootcamp partition and had Windows installed from there 
using Apple.  I think I had to have sighted assistance.  If you use VMWare to 
do it, it’s pretty automatic.  I need to boot into windows natively sometimes 
so I did the bootcamp thing.

Noel

> On Oct 20, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Can I ask how you created your windows 10 VM?  Did you need sited assistance 
> to set up the voice accessibility features or is there a trick to that now?
> 
> :)
> 
> Thank you
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Noel Romey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Question for VMWare Fusion users.  I just upgraded to 8.01 yesterday.  I 
>> have the modification set up so that caps lock works as insert and is 
>> supposed to be sent to the VM.  I notice lately and especially with the 
>> latest version of Fusion that most keys actually get sent to the VM, except 
>> for the insert key.  One thing I haven’t tried is changing JAWS or NVDA to 
>> use the insert key as modifier.  I’ll try that, but I noticed also that when 
>> you move focus outside of the VM and try to turn off Voiceover (you used to 
>> be able to do that  after the machine had started) command+f5 gets sent to 
>> the VM as well.  Normally, this would be cool, but turning off voiceover 
>> might be useful.  Is there a way around these various issues and has anyone 
>> else also noticed the new behavior?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> NER
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RE: Something to ponder regarding Siri

[george b]

Correction to your correction.

 

The 5 and 5s will work wireless, but they have to be plugged into power to 
work, and then in the 6 and 6s series of phones it does not have to be plugged 
into power because the restructor of the processor, battery life, etc. 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 08:20
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Something to ponder regarding Siri

 

Correction...

 

The wireless ability is exclusive to the 6S, and 6S+.  You can do hey Siri as 
far back as an IPhone 5.  Not even a 5S.  Trust me, I know.  I have a friend 
who has the original 5, with I O S 9, and he can do it.  He just can't do it 
wirelessly.

 

Chris.

- Original Message - 

From: Sadam Ahmed   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: Something to ponder regarding Siri

 

That is correct Chris. 

Hey Siri is exclusive to the  6s and 6s plus. 

 

Yours truly, 

 

Sadam Ahmed 

 

Sent from my iPhone 

 

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On 20 Oct 2015, at 2:13 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Apparently it only works wirelessly if you have a 6S, or 6S+, but I could be 
wrong on that.  Can someone else please confirm?

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jessica Moss   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: Something to ponder regarding Siri

 

Does that even work wirelessly now?  I thought they had to be plugged into a 
power source for that feature to work.

On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:





Not sure what's amusing about it.  I only asked a legitimate question.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message -

From: Kawal Gucukoglu  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 4:48 AM

Subject: Re: Something to ponder regarding Siri

 

I think it funny Chris. All of your devices not knowing if you have their 
attention!

 

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone


On 18 Oct 2015, at 9:28 a.m., Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Guys,

 

First of all, I'm not about to get into a philosophical debate with any of you 
either on nor off list about the privacy concerns of this, so don't even start! 
 I however have been doing some kind a random thinking this morning.  You see?  
That's what happens when I'm real tired, and need sleep... or...  coffee.  LOL! 
 Anyway, here's my point.

 

I have several I O S devices ranging from an IPhone 5S all the way up to an 
IPhone 6S, as well as an IPad Air first gen.  Call me weird, as I know some of 
you will, but I do like using "Hey Siri."  So, what happens, if multiple 
devices are in the same room, and you say, "Hey Siri!"  Will all of 'em go nuts 
on me?  That could get really scarey!  LOL! 

 

In all Seriousness though, is there a way to tell I O S which device should take

 precedents over another?


 

I'm thinking this may be a good one for


 

http://www.apple.com/feedback


 

I'm thinking something like an ability within the Siri settings to actually 
specify what key word needs to be said.  Whether that be a customized typed key 
phraise, or a list of a couple predefined choices.  This way, I could set one 
device to one trigger, and the  others to another.  This way they'd not get 
themselves confused.


 

What do you all think?


 

Chris.

 

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RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

[george b]

Your correct, but don't you all think after 3 days of this subject line it is 
time to move on with a new subject??
J m t

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 05:52
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

Hi!
But we can still complain and say a lot of things about apple here.
But why not let apple hear from us by writing to them.
I still won’t stop using my mac but i want it to be better for people with 
blindness related problems.
So is accessibil...@apple.com the only way to get in touch with them.
/A
> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:05, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I do think Apple is more committed to accessibility than Microsoft, but in 
> the last couple years, Apple's quality control has really suffered, and 
> that's the real issue, they release products without fully testing them. 
> Regarding Windows screen readers, there really is no reason to pay for 
> expensive screen readers anymore. NVDA works very well, and if you have a 
> recent version of Microsoft Office, you can use Window Eyes for free. To pay 
> for Jaws now is simply a waste of money.
> Original message:
>> Jaws is not the only game in town for windows. There is nvda, which is quite 
>> respectable these days. The argument that you get a freebie with a Mac and 
>> Windows screen readers are expensive just doesn't cut it anymore, especially 
>> with Apple producing but here releases of OS X when they are supposed to be 
>> "rock solid". I bought my first mac went snow leopard was the current 
>> version of OS X. It was pretty solid. Since then, there certainly have been 
>> improvements in  voiceover features. I still believe it is clear that Apple 
>> has made for more of a commitment to accessibility then has Microsoft. After 
>> all, the new edge browser is totally inaccessible to all but the 
>> experimental support with the latest build of NVDA. However, Apple is quite 
>> open about this commitment, therefore, they have set themselves a higher 
>> standard. And they are not meeting it with this new release. When they 
>> release a product with serious voiceover issues, they are sending a message 
>> that their commitment to accessibility is not quite up to the standard of 
>> their commitment to those who do not need accessibility features. Is that 
>> really what they want to do?
>> Mary
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>>> The only problem is that Jaws costs a lot of money and Voice Over comes 
>>> with the Mac and has no ILM life. I have thought about getting a small 
>>> windows lap top but haven't done anything about it as yet. I do wish there 
>>> was better Braille sufport on the Mac.
> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
 On 16 Oct 2015, at 4:46 p.m., Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
 They should really hire a blind software engineer. I think that's about 
 the only way we'll get any progress.
> 
 Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey guy,
> 
> Thanks so much for pointing out this is why it is great to wait to the 
> next version of an operating system comes out. Wow, what a original 
> novice concept that has never ever been pointed out on this list.
> 
> Ok, now that that is out of the way. I want to thank everyone who has 
> posted about their issues with safari in El Capitan the IOS 8 for VO 
> users on the mac. Holy cow, Apple what a crap operating system. 
> Thankfully I will be rolling back this weekend. Just need to do some more 
> backups. Seriously, I love Apple, but you got to call them out when they 
> shit the bed and El Capitan is just that. Apple claimed IOS 9 and El 
> Capitan were going to be focused on Quality Control instead of fancy new 
> things. Well, how can Apple expect any VO user that they seriously test 
> VO when safari on a lot of websites is absolutely unusable. It is great 
> that VO seems to be much snappier but with it constantly crashing and 
> turning on and off it is unusable, and I am finding the same issue in 
> chrome on the same websites so it is definitely VO.
> 
> Another issue which I have not seen posted is how VO just does not read 
> things. For example go through your contact list in contacts and you will 
> constantly have to go back up to a previous contact and then back down 
> again to get VO to read it. These two issues alone are so severe that 
> Apple should fire anyone doing Quality Control for VO or they just do not 
> care about the quality of it. Very disappointed in Apple again.
>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
>> This is why it’s always best to wait until at least the first, and 
>> sometimes the second major update before installing a new version of the 
>> operati

RE: unable to edit internal server info for my Exchange account

[george b]

Open mail and then go to prefferences and then find your account in there and 
edit it

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:03
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: unable to edit internal server info for my Exchange account

Hi all,

I need to change the server info for my Exchange account, but mail won't let me 
edit the server field.  Does anyone know how I can make Mail let me do this?  
I'm still running Yosemite.
TIA,
Donna

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RE: problem with dock items for folders

[george b]

Go to the apps window with command shift a

Type u and interact with the table and you should be on the utilities folder 
and right arrow to what is inside the folder and arrow down to disk utilities 
and open it

In disk utilities in the tool bar choose first ade

Now choose the root hard disk in the drives table this is the disk name above 
the mac disk name

Now move to thebuttons and choose verify disk and let it go and follow any 
prompts you get.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 08:09
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: problem with dock items for folders

 

Hi all,  I'm helping some one with folders on his dock.  We are both running a 
fully patched yosemity or however you spell it.  He's on a new mini.  I'm on an 
old macbook pro.

 

I press control command shift D to add a folder to my dock.

Then when I press enter on it's dock icon I'm taken directly to the folder in 
finder.

 

When he does the same thing, the folder doesn't open.

Focus remains on the dock.  Voiceover stoppes speaking and the arrow keys don't 
move focus until an escape is pressed.

 

what can we do?

 

 

Erik Burggraaf

 

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RE: PTA Curious apple music question

[george b]

Yes you can

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On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 06:44
To: peel-the-ap...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: PTA Curious apple music question

Good morning guys. I probably already know the answer but in my not enough 
coffee stupor this morning I may not be looking at it properly. Is it possible 
or will it make Apple music funky, to renew on a month by month basis as it 
were with Apple Music, say, one month get it and if I can’t afford it, switch 
it off for a month or two and then switch it back on through auto renew when I 
can swing it again? I didn’t know if that threw some of these things like that 
off or not. Thanks and sorry for being lame this morning. I’m working on the 
caffeine and haven’t played with it too closely yet today. Thanks again and 
take care. 

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RE: Curious apple music question

[george b]

Yes you can

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On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 06:44
To: peel-the-ap...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Curious apple music question

Good morning guys. I probably already know the answer but in my not enough 
coffee stupor this morning I may not be looking at it properly. Is it possible 
or will it make Apple music funky, to renew on a month by month basis as it 
were with Apple Music, say, one month get it and if I can’t afford it, switch 
it off for a month or two and then switch it back on through auto renew when I 
can swing it again? I didn’t know if that threw some of these things like that 
off or not. Thanks and sorry for being lame this morning. I’m working on the 
caffeine and haven’t played with it too closely yet today. Thanks again and 
take care. 

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RE: Network printer vs wireless printer?

[george b]

Well first of all why do you keep changing your wyfi password?
Second answer is no it will not be on the network unless you leave the computer 
running all the time and share the printer, but that is less safe then keeping 
one secure wyfi password

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On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:44
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Network printer vs wireless printer?

Hi all,

We currently have our printer upstairs set up as a wifi printer.  For the most 
part, this works out well.  The biggest drawback is when I change our wifi 
password, I am unable to change it on the printer on my own.

So, I’ve been wondering about connecting the printer to our airport extreme.  
Those of you that print this way, can you tell me more about it?  Is set up & 
printing documents pretty seamless?  If I connect the printer via the USB port, 
it won’t be on my wifi network, correct?

Thank you for any info,
Traci

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RE: Timer on the mac.

[george b]

Not in mine

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:43
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Timer on the mac.

Hi!
There’s an app in my applications folder called timer.
/A
> On 10 Oct 2015, at 15:57, george b  wrote:
> 
> I looked for you and where is timer for the mac?  I looked in the apps folder 
> and did not see it
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 06:21
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Timer on the mac.
> 
> Hi!
> I can’t get the hang of the timer  on the mac.
> I interact with  the html content but how do i set the minutes and hours on 
> the mac timer?
> /A
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RE: Timer on the mac.

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I looked for you and where is timer for the mac?  I looked in the apps folder 
and did not see it

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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 06:21
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Timer on the mac.

Hi!
I can’t get the hang of the timer  on the mac.
I interact with  the html content but how do i set the minutes and hours on the 
mac timer?
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RE: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

[george b]

If he keeps moving to the right he comes to a skip back then paws then skip 
forward

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Emmons
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 07:33
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

 

In that I think there is a mute. I haven’t looked in a little bit but I think 
it’s there right beside the volume stuff. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

LOL!

 

OK, I'll give that a go.  Do you know after getting in that group what I push 
to mute/un? mute?

 

Chris.

 

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From: Tim Emmons  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:27 AM

Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

 

Actually if you’re not using quick nav, get to the group, interact, and don’t 
use left and right arrows inside the group. Use up and won. See where that gets 
you. Remember, volume up, volume down. It’s a little odd but it does work. See 
what happens with that and if you still get stuck email me back and I’ll see 
what else I might be missing. In the meantime I’m getting more coffee so that 
might help. Lol. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Tim,

 

I need a little clarification.  I actually don't use Quick nav.  I've been 
actually just holding down the VO keys, then left and right arrowing.  In other 
words, I've literally been doing a VO+left and right arrow to move through the 
page.

 

OK, so are you basically saying, find the group for the volume ajuster, 
interact with it, then once done, start hitting left and right arrow keys, 
making sure that my quick nav isn't turned on?

 

Write me back and let me know.  Once I get a little bit more clarification on 
this, I'll gladly give it a try, then report back.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Tim Emmons  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:53 AM

Subject: Re: Need help with navigating a problematic web site

 

Turn off your quick nav, and use your arrows once you’re in that group. I had 
to work with it but it works and is probably the most accessible flavor of the 
player they’ve ever done online. Give that a shot and let me know if you have 
any further trouble but after tinkering that’s what I came up with and it works 
like a charm. Thanks again and take care. 

On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Good morning guys!

 

I'm trying to navigate the embedded internal flash web player for Sirius XM 
Radio online streaming.

 

I'm navigating to:

 

http://player.siriusxm.com  

 

I get myself logged in, if I'm not automatically done so.

 

Once logged in, here is where the problem is occuring.  I can get a channel of 
my choice playing easily, but I'm really not understanding how to get the 
embedded inlined volume control to work correctly.  At the top of the html 
content area, I see the volume adjuster group, but when I interact with that 
group, I don't really see anything underneath it.  If instead of interacting, I 
simply just VO+right arrow past that item, I see a few links that just simply 
say "slash."  Hitting VO+space on them doesn't seem to be doing anything though.

 

I'm using Yosemite 10.10.5 with Safari version 9.  Further also for your 
knowledge, I'm using DOM navigation.  I'm not sure if that really matters, but 
anyway...

 

If anyone has figured out how on earth to do this, please let me know.  I'm 
about ready to report this to them as an accessibility issue, but I'd rather 
not do that until I know with utter assurance that there is absolutely no work 
around that I may just not be aware of.

 

Thank you guys profusely for your help.

 

Chris.

 

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RE: Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

[george b]

I really like it!  along with apple maps it is amazing and very much more 
accurate then 8. And watch 1.

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 05:52
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

How are we liking Watch OS 2.0?

> On Oct 4, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> You’re welcome. The crown is definitely more useful for VoiceOver users on 
> watchOS 2 than it was in 1.0.
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey, that's cool! Clearly I need to start paying more attention to the crown 
>> then I do. Thanks, Daniel.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dona,
>>> 
>>> If you turn the pro it will scroll the screen, enabling you to see that 
>>> info. I just tried it and it works perfectly in watchOS 2.0.
>>> 
 On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 So do you still get the breakdown on the front page?  I used to be able to 
 see calories burned, number of active minutes, and number of steps all by 
 doing a double tap on the home screen.  Now more often than not, I do not 
 get that information on the first page.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 11:02 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
> If I double tap on the activity, I still get a screen that allows me to 
> review the activity. You might have to go to the page chooser or change 
> the page with a two finger swipe left or right, to see specific details 
> for each category, but it still works here.
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am using the modular watch face on my Apple Watch, and have activity 
>> set to one of the complications on the screen.  Prior to updating to 
>> 2.0, if I tapped on the activity complication, I saw a page that 
>> displayed a bunch of info: active minutes, calories burned, steps, 
>> miles, etc.  since 2.0, I am not able to bring that page up 
>> consistently.  Often I get just the abbreviated page, with the moving, 
>> exercising, standing info and then the page scrollbar. At this point I'm 
>> perplexed as to whether this is a bug, or whether it has something to do 
>> with force touch.  I seem to have to try to open the page about three 
>> times before I finally get it to show.  Sometimes it seems like holding 
>> my finger down helps, but other times that seems to just bring up the 
>> watch face selection page.  Has anyone else noticed this?  Has anyone 
>> figured out how to view the activity page consistently?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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RE: Major setbacks with El Capitan

[george b]

Hay maybe because you use the g d word and other unneeded phrases God desided 
to punish you and make you go through all this…LOL

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 04:47
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

 

Well, this definitely has proven to be quite a nightmare!

 

I finally! managed to get Yosemite reinstalling to a freshly 
partitioned/formatted internal drive.  I'm really crossing my fingers here!

 

Chris.

 

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From: Devin Prater   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 7:21 AM

Subject: Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

 

Yep, I've seen the busy thing. Also, when I first start up the computer, things 
are pretty slow at first, like voiceover actually sees the Google Drive and 
dropbox windows, which have no content, as they launch. Alex, and the premium 
high, or enhanced, vocalizer voices are sluggish, very sluggish, even after an 
update. Alex is choppy, still. Voiceover still doesn't speak every element, 
like its how it used to cut itself off, but now it doesn't even speak that 
element at all, so I have to do voiceover left and right again to hear it, this 
is most often in webpages. I don't know, maybe I'll just spend more time in my 
vm of XP.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 3, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

OK.  Let me start by saying one positive thing.

 

El Capitan looks like it has the potential to be a great OS.  This being said, 
I'm at a position where even on my personal computers, not just on my work 
audio production machine, I have made the decision to go back to Yosemite, and 
not touch El Capitan with a 10 foot poll until some of these issues I'm having 
are worked out.  Below are all the things so far I've observed.  Again, realize 
that I am not complaining.  Over time, I'm sure a lot of this will get fixed, 
but at least for the time being, this is ridiculous!

 


Busy Busy Busy!


 

This is the main bug which has caused me to say screw it!  I'm going back.  No 
matter what voice I use, be it Alex, any of the Nuance voices, Any of the 
Acapela TTS voices, whatever, practically every single app I have tried is 
almost constantly reporting busy busy busy.  Finally when the app does! switch 
to ready status, it only stays there for a fraction of a second, then goes busy 
again.

 


Can't Edit nor backspace text in Mail


 

This one's really aggervating.  When typing an e-mail message, be it a reply, a 
forward, or just totally from scratch, I can edit/backspace text up to a 
certain point which I've not totally benchmarked, but after a certain point, 
pressing the backspace key, or trying to move around and edit my message 
doesn't work.  Apparently, it works, but Voiceover says absolutely nothing.  
When I try backspacing characters, Voiceover is totally silent.

 


Message List Table in Mail is slightly Broken


 

I should start this one by saying that I'm using the classic view of Mail.  I'm 
not sure if that matters, but i somehow doubt it does.  It used to be that I 
could vo+right arrow to the messages group and interact with it.  Then, I could 
vo+right arrow to the message list table.  Then, without interacting at all, I 
could simply down arrow through the list of messages.  Not VO+Down arrow.  I'm 
literally saying just down arrow.  The advantage of doing it this way was that 
I wasn't interacting with the table, thereby making it where virtically, it 
would only read one column at a time.  This way each row would read all columns 
at once.  So right away, I knew who the message was from, the subject, etc.  
Now, if I try doing this, just by down arrowing when I reach the table, 
Voiceover says absolutely nothing.  When I press return on a message, it's not 
throwing me to the content of the message.  It's very inconsistent, so I can't 
really tell you where it lands, as it seems to be kind a scatterbrained.  Once 
I do! however get on the area with the message content, regardless if I 
interact with the text field and use vo+up and down arrow to read, or if I 
don't interact at all, but just up and down arrow to read, Mail usually goes 
completely busy and by busy, I don't mean Voiceover saying busy.  I mean it 
goes so busy to the point where literally nothing! speaks.  Trying to 
command+tab out of the Mail app sometimes works, but usually Voiceover lags for 
a good 30 seconds to a full minute before catching up.  When it does! catch 
back up I notice in the Mail app that I no longer have focus on the message 
content, as it's jumped to some other random place like the message headers, 
etc.  Yes, to rimity these issues, I did try restarting Voiceover, and yes, 
I've also fully tried rebooting.

 


ITunes 12.3, and I

RE: Major data breach at Experian impacting T-Mobile customers

[george b]

I was given a web site to go to  and ifyou want it let me know

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 06:44
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major data breach at Experian impacting T-Mobile customers

They must have been literally swamped with calls. When I called their main 
customer service, after finding that my local store knew nothing, I was told 
that hold times were longer than usual, so I left my number and ask to be 
called back. They never called me back. But I found something online and signed 
up for the free two-year identity theft monitoring. I don't have a lot of faith 
in it. But it beats nothing.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> When I heard about it I doubt the average customer service rep new anything 
> about it.  It has just broken as a leaked report on CNBC last night.  Today 
> though I bet they will have an answer.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Scott. I hope people have better luck with t-mo then I did. They 
>> were clue free when I called them just now. I mean totally clue free.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thought this was important enough to bring up here in case anyone activated 
>>> service on T-Mobile recently.
>>> 
>>> Hi, it’s breaking on the wires now, CNBC is reporting that Experian, one of 
>>> the large credit bureaus has experienced a data breach.  While the consumer 
>>> division of Experian is claimed to be unimpacted the company states that a 
>>> business division that processes applications for T-Mobile was involved.  
>>> You’ll want to call T-Mobile and find out who was involved and if you were 
>>> have them pay for identity theft monitoring.  You may have to fight with 
>>> Experian directly.  I have no more details yet this just appeared with in 
>>> the last 5 minutes on CNBC.
>>> 
>>> Watch out for your data if you’re a t-mobile customer.  Also, it’s 
>>> important to note this isn’t at this point appearing to be a failure on 
>>> t-mobile’s part but rather a failure of security at Experian, a totally 
>>> different company.  Be careful out there.
>>> 
>>> Scott
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my question to the manager of local apple store yesterday

[george b]

Well,

I asked since apple is such a "green" company.  As I was rubbing my hand across 
the new solid oak tables, and work spaces I asked, " how many trees do you 
think apple had cut down to do this in all their stors", I got no answer

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 05:39
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 10.11 and braille

Maybe not but we don’t lie about it either.:)  That whole VW / AUDI / PORSCHE 
thing cracks me up especially from a country that claims to be so green.

I don’t know about the braille literacy thing either to be fair.  Now this may 
have changed, I fully admit when I was in public school we still had public 
schools that were worth while and they hadn’t degraded to the point they are 
now but I as well as all the blind folks in my state at least received 
fantastic braille training as well as mobility and each blind student received 
a full free ride to college up to the cost of the degree if it was offered in 
our state school or full cost if the degree was only available outside the 
state or at certain universities like special technical degrees for example.  
Bringing this back on topic as blind students we were also encouraged to work 
with the computers which at the time were Apple 2 series.  I also had a blind 
teacher, in the states I believe they are called itinerate teachers or resource 
teachers who work with blind and other disabled students to augment the class 
room.  Maybe things have changed but at least when I went to school we had a 
pretty good deal?  I see a lot of European blind engineers on different lists 
so I suspect you have something similarly forward thinking available across the 
pond?

Oh and to the original poster and you, I’m in total agreement.  I’m not sure if 
the problem is that Apple doesn’t produce the hardware, I don’t suspect that 
it’s but what ever the reason the braille support is lacking and seriously 
lacking at that.  What’s interesting is the support is quite a bit better on 
the phone.  Braille at least with the focus 40 I’m using on the iPhone isn’t 
half bad, on the Mac though it’s just about unusable.  Could be the guy behind 
the keyboard (pointing at myself) but others have agreed so I don’t think it’s 
just me.




> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Nah Anders, I feel your pain completely.  Even iOS has acceptable braille 
> support, so it’s not as if they couldn’t port that over to OS X.  Clearly 
> nobody at Apple uses or cares about braille.  Probably because it doesn’t 
> make them any money from hardware sales.  Kinda tragic.
> 
> Hey Scott, you can stop trolling now.  The grand old US of A isn’t exactly 
> known for its braille literacy or deep regard for environmentalism either. :)
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RE: Major data breach at Experian impacting T-Mobile customers

[george b]

Well I would hope so since it has effected 15,000,000, people

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 06:05
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major data breach at Experian impacting T-Mobile customers

When I heard about it I doubt the average customer service rep new anything 
about it.  It has just broken as a leaked report on CNBC last night.  Today 
though I bet they will have an answer.
 


> On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Scott. I hope people have better luck with t-mo then I did. They were 
> clue free when I called them just now. I mean totally clue free.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Thought this was important enough to bring up here in case anyone activated 
>> service on T-Mobile recently.
>> 
>> Hi, it’s breaking on the wires now, CNBC is reporting that Experian, one of 
>> the large credit bureaus has experienced a data breach.  While the consumer 
>> division of Experian is claimed to be unimpacted the company states that a 
>> business division that processes applications for T-Mobile was involved.  
>> You’ll want to call T-Mobile and find out who was involved and if you were 
>> have them pay for identity theft monitoring.  You may have to fight with 
>> Experian directly.  I have no more details yet this just appeared with in 
>> the last 5 minutes on CNBC.
>> 
>> Watch out for your data if you’re a t-mobile customer.  Also, it’s important 
>> to note this isn’t at this point appearing to be a failure on t-mobile’s 
>> part but rather a failure of security at Experian, a totally different 
>> company.  Be careful out there.
>> 
>> Scott
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RE: El Capitan Is Here

[george b]

Well scott here is the issue,

People red his bug list, but I also listened to his pod cast on 10.11, and it 
was all done one day before he even has 10.11 installed he did all this on the 
last beta of 10.11

So I get a kick out of how people read things and not follow through.

I do not see any of these bugs or almost non of these in the final release of 
10.11

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 05:24
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here

As I mentioned, I’m not getting a lot of these bugs.  I experienced the email 
bug for a bit but on reboot it hasn’t happened again since yesterday.  No audio 
docking bug and haven’t run in to anything else yet although I’m sure I will.  
So far so good though, much cleaner than the jump to Yosemite was.  


> On Sep 30, 2015, at 9:57 PM, denise avant  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> Thanks for the blog, podcast, and bug report. Most of all, thanks for your 
> honesty  regarding these bugs.
> The bugs here are really tough to deal with. As someone who really likes 
> using the Mac, but is an average user, for the first time, I  think I’m going 
> to wait for another update. Since the mainstream is reporting great 
> stability, I think those of us who rely on voiceover will be waiting longer 
> than usual..
> I know that with every new release, there are always bugs. but these are 
> significant. It is very disheartening to see this in a long-awaited release. 
> And no, this is not a rant about Apple not caring about accessibility. 
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> As with any new operating system, I would suggest waiting until at least the 
>> first, maybe the second major update before installing it, much safer that 
>> way.
>> Original message:
>>> You can’t really go by these bug lists.  They may be an issue for one 
>>> person, not on another.  Depends on a lot of factors.
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
 Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new operating 
 system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about how this was 
 a "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many bugs in your 
 list. I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But it is damned 
 hard to keep that in mind when they release a rock solid version with so 
 many Voice over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent functionality for 
 the mainstream would not be impacted in a release version. But because we 
 are a small group, we can wait. And we can love it, as I'm sure the 
 critics will now come out and tell me.
>> 
 Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
> Hi all,
> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug 
> list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there 
> are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a 
> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>> 
> Bug List:
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>> 
> New Features Blog:
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>> 
> New Features Podcast:
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>> 
> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a 
> little arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a 
> single place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the 
> only accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>> 
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RE: i cant find the update to the new mac operating system in the app store.

[george b]

Go to the features tab and then in the search field type in el cap and hit 
enter and the first one in the list is el xcapitan

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On Behalf Of adrian
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:00
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: i cant find the update to the new mac operating system in the app 
store.

I cant find the new mac update in the mac app store should i sign back out and 
back in again? to get it?

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RE: El Capitan Is Here

[george b]

Well wait then

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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 11:15
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here

Well, unless you are saying that the bugs may not appear on my machine when I 
upgrade, I think some of them are big enough deal for me where I will wait for 
an update that will hopefully fix them. I am particularly thinking of the mail 
one and those associated with Safari. The new features do sound good. But 
apparently some of them don't work right yet. Better to wait.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> You can’t really go by these bug lists.  They may be an issue for one person, 
> not on another.  Depends on a lot of factors.  
> 
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new operating 
>> system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about how this was a 
>> "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many bugs in your list. 
>> I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But it is damned hard to 
>> keep that in mind when they release a rock solid version with so many Voice 
>> over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent functionality for the 
>> mainstream would not be impacted in a release version. But because we are a 
>> small group, we can wait. And we can love it, as I'm sure the critics will 
>> now come out and tell me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug list 
>>> for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there are 
>>> some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a 
>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>>> 
>>> Bug List:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>>> 
>>> New Features Blog:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>>> 
>>> New Features Podcast:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>>> 
>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little 
>>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single 
>>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only 
>>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>>> 
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>>> Alex Hall
>>> mehg...@icloud.com
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RE: Any good lyrics apps?

[george b]

Ask seri

 

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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 09:00
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any good lyrics apps?

 

I know that there are indeed some I O S apps out there which can detect the 
song that you are playing in the native Music app, then offer you lyrics to the 
song.  That's not however what I'm looking for.

 

What I'm asking is, does anyone know of an app that is basically just a stand 
alone app for searching for lyrics to songs.  I'd like something where I could 
search by artist or title, type in what I'm looking for, find the track, double 
tap on the result, and then be able right there to see the lyrics, without even 
the need to play the song in my Music app, or the like.

 

Does anyone know of anything accessible that would do this?

 

Thanks much.

 

Chris.

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RE: Sorry for cross posting but i thought you'd might like to know this

[george b]

So does this mean if a list does not allow cross posting and I put sorry in the 
subject line it is ok to do...HUMM

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 06:59
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sorry for cross posting but i thought you'd might like to know this

Over time shouldn't the UI for the internet of things simply coalesce into a 
pile of apps for your iPhone? Stop making custom UI controllers/remotes and 
just make apps. Then accessibility would be more possible and you wouldn't need 
to find one of the 20 little remotes. For example, the Honeywell app doesn't 
work with voiceover beyond letting me know the current temperature and that 
it's following the schedule, but it's far more likely they can/will fix that 
than to get the touch screen on the wall speaking.

CB

On 9/29/15 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> According to M3 a Swedish magazine for everything mobile and smart phones, 
> Sonos will soon release a new variant of the Play 5. According to the paper, 
> the Play5 will have improved sound quality but, and this is the reason i 
> post, the physical buttons will be replaced by touch functions and we all 
> know what that means to someone blind or visually impaired. Is it time to 
> look at other multiroom streaming solutions?
> /Krister
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RE: iPhone 6S+ vastly improved cellular performance

[george b]

Chris,

I went from a 6 pluse to a 6s pluse and it is really fast, responsive, and 
force tuch is super

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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 06:18
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Subject: Re: iPhone 6S+ vastly improved cellular performance

Scott,
Did you go from a 6 to a 6s?
I am considering it and wonder if it is worth the upgrade.

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:27:05 -0400
Scott Granados  wrote:

> Wondering if anyone else if finding their experience while on the cell 
> network is vastly improved.  I’m on T-Mobile and may be taking advantage of 
> their new bands but I don’t think they are active in my area yet do to 
> conflicts with a TV station on channel 51.  I did test at home and checked 
> the frequency used and it was the old 2 GHZ band but the connection was far 
> more stable, I never lost LTE at home and didn’t drop calls.  Well done 
> Apple, good choice going to Qualcomm for your radios, much appreciated.  Are 
> others experiencing the same either on T-Mobile or any cell network in 
> general?
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
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RE: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[george b]

Lol and what does all of this have to do with the subject line

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On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:09
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

That's not true because Nokia has that feature on its VZW (NowRetired) 
LumiaIcon (Lumia929) & Samsung has it on their MobilePhones since launching the 
GalaxyS5 & Beyond (that includes the Note Series as well as the Galaxy S Series

the GalaxyS6 is about 5.1 Inches & the GalaxyS6Edge+ is about 5.7 Inches

And, as I recall, the iPhone6S+ is about 5.5 Inches & the iPhone6S is about 4.7 
Inches

Apple could have this feature on both modles, but it chooses not to

As I understand it, this feature is rumored to help in catching/viewing Video 
and/or taking pictures

I'm sure others, who have the iPhone6+ and/or 
iPhone6S+ can ChimeIn on it. I am particularly
interested to hear from TotallyBlind users of the 
iPhone6+ and/or iPhone6S+, and how it functions
for them. It would be Great if they had an
iPhone6 and/or iPhone6S to Compare&Contrast TheDifferences With & WithOut the 
Optical Image Stablization feature

JustSaying
At 09:48 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>Optical image stabilization isn't the only thing you get for that extra 
>hundred dollars for the 6S plus. I don't know how it is accomplished. 
>It is possible that they need the larger size to make it happen. I 
>don't know how big the Samsung phones are either. But I do know that 
>for me as a blind person, optical image stabilization is not necessary 
>or useful.
>Mary
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Robin  wrote:
> >
> > I think they (they being Apple) should
> ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs&Features with the 
> exception of TheirSize
> >
> > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of
> the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the 
> Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> >
> > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on
> both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its
> GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> >
> > What a Concept
> >
> > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its
> customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, 
> which is about $100 More
> >
> > JustSaying
> > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
> >> Anders,
> >> I agree with you about phone size. I really
> would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or 
> the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width 
> and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do 
> something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a 
> rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was 
> the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not 
> happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same 
> features as the larger phones.
> >> Mary
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders
> Holmberg  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi!
> >> > Well, i might say something stupid now but
> this is my own personal preference so don̢۪t be angry.
>.
> >> > To me i really whish that if the iphone
> could be as small as the ipod touch then i̢۪d be as happy as can be.
>.
> >> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing
> nearly impossible but i never use that so i don̢۪t care much about it.
>.
> >> > We don̢۪t have grade 2 in swedish
> anymore and we we don̢۪t learn it for english  either so thats one 
>of tf the reasons i don̢۪t use braille keyboards.
>.
> >> > /A
> >> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> >> >>
> >> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he
> needs to use the braille keyboard then there is more room to spread 
> your fingers.  Partially sighted people say to me that they can read 
> the screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no.
> >> >>
> >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design
> hadn't really changed and I had started with the 4 so was looking for 
> something different.  No doubt Apple will not be changing the design 
> of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kawal.
> >> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation
> for upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would fit into my life. I 
> have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to 
> the back to give it structure. I carried it for a day, then attached 
> my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed to find 
> that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my pocket. 
> It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might 
> imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, 
> and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it wi