super duper

[wayne17a]

hello is the upgrade of super duper a payed one or can i use the old key i have 
thanks in advance

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super duper

[Faisal ali]

Hi all,
I’ve been considering purchasing super duper  in some time and had some 
questions. firstly, will the image super duper  creates takes up a lot of hard 
drive space? I ask this because my portable external is partitioned with 1.5 
gigs being NTFS and 500 gigs being extended journal. I use the extended journal 
for my time machine back ups.
Secondly, I understand one can use this image to boot up with. How can this be 
done and is it accessible with voiceover?
Thirdly,, I am using time machine. does having a super duper  image take the 
place of time machine? In other words, do I continue using time machine 
concurrently with super duper?
And lastly, I understand that carbon copy cloner does the very same thing as 
super duper. Is there an advantage of using CCC over super? Which product is 
more VO accessible?
Thank you in advance for any feedback on this.

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super duper

[wayne17a]

Hi list I have been using super duper for a while with no trouble entill
today when I have a error message when creating a clone that I have done on
the same external drive so what can the list sugest thanks in advance

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Super duper

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning folks I need to know if someone can point me to a podcast or two 
regarding super duper. I purchased the program and thus, far love it, 
but I know I am missing much the program can do. I remember Mike Arigo 
did one or two podcasts on super duper, and I thought I saved them, but 
cannot locate them. Any help would be appreciated.


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Super Duper?

[Rob]

Hi,
Are any of you using Super Duper to clone your hard drive?
I want to know if I can save the backups on my external drive that 
contains other files, or will super duper require the drive to be 
formatted for its use only?


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super duper

[william lomas]

hi all I am using super duper to clone my mac hard disk. I may do a  
clean install eventually of Snowleopard. SO, If I wish to put back my  
home folder do I after buying super duper, boot from firewire drive,  
run SD and just restore home folder?
Will that put back my applications, as well?
I guess though one is best doing another backup with SD when SL is  
installed as all files change?
What would you guys advise. Should I just use Super duper to back up  
user files, and leave the rest if doing clean install anyway?


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super duper

[Gene Richburg]

Hi guys I forgot to mention that when I wanted to slect my dvd drive in the 
second pop up menu it wasn't there even though there was a blank disk in the 
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super duper

[Wayne Coles]

hello all can some kind person please send me the download link for super duper 
so thanks in advance  D
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Re: super duper

[Daniel Chavez]

Use your old key. I just upgraded SuperDooper just now.

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Re: super duper

[Faisal ali]

Hi,
I heard that this app is less accessible than it’s previous release. Can you 
report on this?
Also, if I were to get this app, do I delete all my time machine backups and 
turn off time machine? 
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> Use your old key. I just upgraded SuperDooper just now.
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Re: super duper

[Daniel Chavez]

On Mavericks, it seems to work fine. Can’t say for sure on Yosemite.
It’s always been that the first 2 button’s won’t say anything but pop-up. But 
both buttons have help tags.
The first button would be where to copy from, and the second, is where to copy 
too. There is a button that will say just. Button, however, that’s to copy 
without password authentication.
Otherwise, it seems ok.
As far as Time Machine (TM) goes, you will need to turn off time machine, and 
format your drive. Though, SuperDooper will do that as well, if you use Smart 
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Re: super duper

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I aut to correct myself. Both pop-up buttons don’t, have help tags. Sorry.
Though, the first 1 will be where to copy from, and the second one, is where to 
copy too.

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Re: super duper

[Faisal ali]

That’s interesting, I’ll have to look into it. Is one able to restore from a 
super dooper back up in the same fashion? I know that my time machine backup 
saved my bacon when I had to restore back to mavericks via my time machine 
backup.
> On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
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> On Mavericks, it seems to work fine. Can’t say for sure on Yosemite.
> It’s always been that the first 2 button’s won’t say anything but pop-up. But 
> both buttons have help tags.
> The first button would be where to copy from, and the second, is where to 
> copy too. There is a button that will say just. Button, however, that’s to 
> copy without password authentication.
> Otherwise, it seems ok.
> As far as Time Machine (TM) goes, you will need to turn off time machine, and 
> format your drive. Though, SuperDooper will do that as well, if you use Smart 
> Update.
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Re: super duper

[Daniel Chavez]

I’m getting ready to put Yosemite on this machine at some point, so I will try 
SuperDooper on Yosemite too.

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RE: super duper

[wayne17a]

Thanks will go and do that now  


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Use your old key. I just upgraded SuperDooper just now.

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RE: super duper

[wayne17a]

Hi super duper works great with no difference from the last one

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I’m getting ready to put Yosemite on this machine at some point, so I will try 
SuperDooper on Yosemite too.

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Re: super duper

[Daniel Chavez]

I myself have not used carbon, but i do use SuperDuper.
Regarding your Partitions
You’re going to have a problem if you want to use Time Machine (TM) and 
SuperDuper together.
Time Machine requires a partition of it’s own, or at least, 1 partition that 
isn’t being used by anything else. The format of your TimeMachine partition is 
fine, though you’ll have to either put your TM backup on another hard drive, or 
not use Time Machine, period.
Booting from Super Duper is fine. It’s essentially considered another startup 
disk, just as your Mac’s internal hard drive would be. Select your backup drive 
in startup disk prefs, and click on restart. The Mac will boot off of your 
SuperDuper disk like nothing happened.
hard Drive Space
SuperDuper images take up the size of your Mac’s Drive. So, if your Mac has a 
1TB drive, it’s suggested you devote 1 partition of say a 2 partitioned drive 
to Super Duper, that has at least 1TB. If you don’t, SuperDuper won’t back up 
correctly.
There is a feature of Super Duper called Smart Update. Smart Update updates 
what hasn’t been updated, and wastes no time trying to back up the entire 
drive. It erases the partition you told it to copy to, and makes it like your 
internal drive is. Meaning, whatever structure your internal mac HD has, that’s 
what your external drive’s partition will look like, with the exception of, 
SuperDuper is making that 1 partition bootable.

One Thing To Note
Warning!  - Don’t Copy Files Manually To The Bootable Partition
If SuperDuper makes a backup, do not attempt copying files direct to the 
partition. You’ll screw the partition up and make it not boot. Even if you went 
into startup disk, once you copy files manually to the partition, you’ll mess 
up the fact that the disk was ever bootable. For you to solve this problem, the 
permanent fix would be for you to use SuperDuper’s smart update,which will 
remake the disk bootable, based upon changed data on your Mac’s internal hD.
I hope my explaining helps you in a wise choice in what to buy.
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RE: super duper

[wayne coles]

hello yes I do to and find it easy to use and it covers all I need

 

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Subject: Re: super duper

 

I myself have not used carbon, but i do use SuperDuper.

Regarding your Partitions

You’re going to have a problem if you want to use Time Machine (TM) and 
SuperDuper together.

Time Machine requires a partition of it’s own, or at least, 1 partition that 
isn’t being used by anything else. The format of your TimeMachine partition is 
fine, though you’ll have to either put your TM backup on another hard drive, or 
not use Time Machine, period.

Booting from Super Duper is fine. It’s essentially considered another startup 
disk, just as your Mac’s internal hard drive would be. Select your backup drive 
in startup disk prefs, and click on restart. The Mac will boot off of your 
SuperDuper disk like nothing happened.

hard Drive Space

SuperDuper images take up the size of your Mac’s Drive. So, if your Mac has a 
1TB drive, it’s suggested you devote 1 partition of say a 2 partitioned drive 
to Super Duper, that has at least 1TB. If you don’t, SuperDuper won’t back up 
correctly.

There is a feature of Super Duper called Smart Update. Smart Update updates 
what hasn’t been updated, and wastes no time trying to back up the entire 
drive. It erases the partition you told it to copy to, and makes it like your 
internal drive is. Meaning, whatever structure your internal mac HD has, that’s 
what your external drive’s partition will look like, with the exception of, 
SuperDuper is making that 1 partition bootable.

 

One Thing To Note

Warning!  - Don’t Copy Files Manually To The Bootable Partition

If SuperDuper makes a backup, do not attempt copying files direct to the 
partition. You’ll screw the partition up and make it not boot. Even if you went 
into startup disk, once you copy files manually to the partition, you’ll mess 
up the fact that the disk was ever bootable. For you to solve this problem, the 
permanent fix would be for you to use SuperDuper’s smart update,which will 
remake the disk bootable, based upon changed data on your Mac’s internal hD.

I hope my explaining helps you in a wise choice in what to buy.

Daniel

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Firestar-Hosting.Com

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Super duper Help

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning list members, I know there are a few podcasts out there 
regarding super duper. I am interested in the program and downloaded the 
image file from shirt pocket. However when I click on the file all I get 
is the initial agreement screen then a list view table with a quick 
start rtf file and the users guide in pdf. Clicking on the application 
icon seems to do nothing. Any help would be appreciated.


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Using super duper

[Matt Dierckens]

Hey all.
I was just wondering how to use super duper? I want to use something other than 
time machine for backing up.
Thank you.

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Re: Super Duper?

[Matt Dierckens]

I would like to know too. I have super duper here and haven't used it yet.

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On 2013-10-31, at 1:25 PM, Rob  wrote:

> Hi,
> Are any of you using Super Duper to clone your hard drive?
> I want to know if I can save the backups on my external drive that contains 
> other files, or will super duper require the drive to be formatted for its 
> use only?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
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Re: Super Duper?

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The external can be partitioned into 2, if it’ll be  easier, then you can tell 
SuperDuper to save on the other partition, while keeping your files on a 
different partition.

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Re: Super Duper?

[Rob]

OK, I only had my Macbook for 2 days.
So my next question is, Is there a easy way to do this in Mountain Lion?
Thanks,
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On 10/31/2013 1:39 PM, Daniel C wrote:

The external can be partitioned into 2, if it’ll be  easier, then you can tell 
SuperDuper to save on the other partition, while keeping your files on a 
different partition.



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Re: Super Duper?

[Daniel C]

Ok. Sorry about that.
What I can do for you is email  some instructions later as I need to find an 
external to work on.

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Re: Super Duper?

[Nicholas Parsons]

1. If you want your backup clone to be bootable, which you do, then it needs to 
have its own partition.
2. This can easily be done with Disc Utility. You need to make sure the 
partition is created in the Mac Extended Gernaled format using GID Partition 
Table. I'm sorry my spelling of these terms isn't correct but the other options 
are different enough that you'll know the one I mean.
Cheers,
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Re: super duper

[Scott Howell]

WHy don't you just migrate your data once you perform the clean  
install. You will have the option to include applications and these  
are the applications you installed, not the apps that Apple installs.
On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:40 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
>   hi all I am using super duper to clone my mac hard disk. I may do a
> clean install eventually of Snowleopard. SO, If I wish to put back my
> home folder do I after buying super duper, boot from firewire drive,
> run SD and just restore home folder?
> Will that put back my applications, as well?
> I guess though one is best doing another backup with SD when SL is
> installed as all files change?
> What would you guys advise. Should I just use Super duper to back up
> user files, and leave the rest if doing clean install anyway?
>
>
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Re: super duper

[william lomas]

ah so now i ahve my clone can I use that to migrate applications?

On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:38, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> WHy don't you just migrate your data once you perform the clean
> install. You will have the option to include applications and these
> are the applications you installed, not the apps that Apple installs.
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:40 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>>  hi all I am using super duper to clone my mac hard disk. I may do a
>> clean install eventually of Snowleopard. SO, If I wish to put back my
>> home folder do I after buying super duper, boot from firewire drive,
>> run SD and just restore home folder?
>> Will that put back my applications, as well?
>> I guess though one is best doing another backup with SD when SL is
>> installed as all files change?
>> What would you guys advise. Should I just use Super duper to back up
>> user files, and leave the rest if doing clean install anyway?
>>
>>
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Re: super duper

[Scott Howell]

Sure, that would be the way or unless you have a Time Machine backup.
On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:28 PM, william lomas wrote:

>
> ah so now i ahve my clone can I use that to migrate applications?
>
> On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:38, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>
>> WHy don't you just migrate your data once you perform the clean
>> install. You will have the option to include applications and these
>> are the applications you installed, not the apps that Apple installs.
>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:40 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi all I am using super duper to clone my mac hard disk. I may do a
>>> clean install eventually of Snowleopard. SO, If I wish to put back  
>>> my
>>> home folder do I after buying super duper, boot from firewire drive,
>>> run SD and just restore home folder?
>>> Will that put back my applications, as well?
>>> I guess though one is best doing another backup with SD when SL is
>>> installed as all files change?
>>> What would you guys advise. Should I just use Super duper to back up
>>> user files, and leave the rest if doing clean install anyway?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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Re: super duper

[John JD Denning]

If you want to do a clean install of SL, and install from a backup you  
can do so as part of the install. Or rather at the end of the restore  
you are asked if you want to restore from a Time Machine backup, an  
external drive, or I believe another Mac. I've done two from external  
backups. One I didn't have connected at the time I did the install of  
SL. When I got to that prompt I plugged in the USB drive, it  
recognized the drive and offered it as the external backup.

Then once selected you can choose what from that backup you want  
restored, Users, Applications, Preferences, not sure what else. I  
selected all, and away it went. Took about 30 minutes to restore. Once  
done it worked great, just like I did an upgrade.

If you would rather just copy things over you can do that also. And  
once you have a new clone of your SL system you can always just have  
Superduper clone it back the other way. Remember a clone is just that  
an exact working copy.

I have Time Machine running on one external drive and I do a Smart  
Clone with Superduper every week. And right before I do something like  
install a new OS.

On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:40 AM, william lomas wrote:

>   hi all I am using super duper to clone my mac hard disk. I may do a
> clean install eventually of Snowleopard. SO, If I wish to put back my
> home folder do I after buying super duper, boot from firewire


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Re: super duper

[william lomas]

so, if i use my super duper Leopard clone to put back what I want  
John, if I clone againw tih SL on it will super duper just note the  
changes?

On 4 Sep 2009, at 23:07, John JD Denning wrote:

>
> If you want to do a clean install of SL, and install from a backup you
> can do so as part of the install. Or rather at the end of the restore
> you are asked if you want to restore from a Time Machine backup, an
> external drive, or I believe another Mac. I've done two from external
> backups. One I didn't have connected at the time I did the install of
> SL. When I got to that prompt I plugged in the USB drive, it
> recognized the drive and offered it as the external backup.
>
> Then once selected you can choose what from that backup you want
> restored, Users, Applications, Preferences, not sure what else. I
> selected all, and away it went. Took about 30 minutes to restore. Once
> done it worked great, just like I did an upgrade.
>
> If you would rather just copy things over you can do that also. And
> once you have a new clone of your SL system you can always just have
> Superduper clone it back the other way. Remember a clone is just that
> an exact working copy.
>
> I have Time Machine running on one external drive and I do a Smart
> Clone with Superduper every week. And right before I do something like
> install a new OS.
>
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:40 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>  hi all I am using super duper to clone my mac hard disk. I may do a
>> clean install eventually of Snowleopard. SO, If I wish to put back my
>> home folder do I after buying super duper, boot from firewire
>
>
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Re: super duper

[John JD Denning]

If you do a smart copy with superduper it only copies the changes.  
Saves LOTS LOTS of time. It keeps your clone up to date. And you can  
schedule it to run whenever you want. I checked I have it update 3  
times a week. I believe you have to pay for it for those features. But  
it's well worth the cost of the program.

On Sep 5, 2009, at 2:31 AM, william lomas wrote:

> so, if i use my super duper Leopard clone to put back what I want
> John, if I clone againw tih SL on it will super duper just note the
> changes?


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Re: super duper

[william lomas]

John if I smart backup now I bought it when I have installed SL, will  
that bring the backup drive up to date with the new OS files etc?
Or should I do a complete clone again when SL is on here?


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Re: super duper

[John JD Denning]

I'm not sure. I had to do a new one because I changed drives, so  
didn't test that. Give it a shot. If you did an upgrade then it's the  
same drive. I'd assume it would work just have lots more to copy as  
new. If it doesn't work it will tell you. I'm really impressed with  
this program.

Anyone know of something like this for Windows? I need to fix up a  
poor windows user friend who needs something easy and fool proof.

On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:16 AM, william lomas wrote:

> John if I smart backup now I bought it when I have installed SL, will
> that bring the backup drive up to date with the new OS files etc?
> Or should I do a complete clone again when SL is on here?


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super duper scheduling

[william lomas]

hi all when i do a smart backup why is so much changing since 
last  
night I have hardly done anything yet it takes at least ten fifteen  
ormore minutes to do a smart backup?
It is strange it takes a long time to scan the whole drive again to  
note changes
WIll


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super duper question

[Gene Richburg]

Hi guys, wondering if someone has an answer to this one.  I want to use 
super duper to back my hd up to a dvd and I was hoping to compress it so 
that it would hopefully all fit on one disk, is this possible? 


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Re: super duper

[Esther]

Hi Gene,

I don't believe that SuperDuper is designed to back up to DVD.  I've  
only known it to be used with hard drives and especially for the  
purpose of creating a bootable clone (among other backup modes).  I  
went to check their web site, and I'm pasting in their description:


Please note that SuperDuper! is not designed to back up to CDs, DVDs  
or Tape, and needs a location (other than the boot volume) to store  
the backup - typically a volume on an internal or external (FireWire)  
drive. SuperDuper! only copies HFS+ (Mac-native) volumes.


HTH

Cheers,

Esther

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> Hi guys I forgot to mention that when I wanted to slect my dvd drive  
> in the
> second pop up menu it wasn't there even though there was a blank  
> disk in the
> drive.
>
>
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Re: super duper

[Scott Howell]

WOw, could you imagine if you could backup to a DVD though?  WIth  
about 200Gb or so used on my drive, that would take one hell of a  
compression routine to pull that off. :)
On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Esther wrote:

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> Hi Gene,
>
> I don't believe that SuperDuper is designed to back up to DVD.  I've
> only known it to be used with hard drives and especially for the
> purpose of creating a bootable clone (among other backup modes).  I
> went to check their web site, and I'm pasting in their description:
>
> 
> Please note that SuperDuper! is not designed to back up to CDs, DVDs
> or Tape, and needs a location (other than the boot volume) to store
> the backup - typically a volume on an internal or external (FireWire)
> drive. SuperDuper! only copies HFS+ (Mac-native) volumes.
> 
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Jul 28, 2009, Gene Richburg wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi guys I forgot to mention that when I wanted to slect my dvd drive
>> in the
>> second pop up menu it wasn't there even though there was a blank
>> disk in the
>> drive.
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: super duper

[Gene Richburg]

Hi Ester, Ok that's interesting someone did a pod cast here a while back and 
said that you could back up to dvds but I guess that's not true.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Gene
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Subject: Re: super duper


>
> Hi Gene,
>
> I don't believe that SuperDuper is designed to back up to DVD.  I've
> only known it to be used with hard drives and especially for the
> purpose of creating a bootable clone (among other backup modes).  I
> went to check their web site, and I'm pasting in their description:
>
> 
> Please note that SuperDuper! is not designed to back up to CDs, DVDs
> or Tape, and needs a location (other than the boot volume) to store
> the backup - typically a volume on an internal or external (FireWire)
> drive. SuperDuper! only copies HFS+ (Mac-native) volumes.
> 
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Jul 28, 2009, Gene Richburg wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi guys I forgot to mention that when I wanted to slect my dvd drive
>> in the
>> second pop up menu it wasn't there even though there was a blank
>> disk in the
>> drive.
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
> 


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Re: super duper

[Daniel C]

shirt-pocket.com. the link will be present there.
On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Wayne Coles  wrote:

> hello all can some kind person please send me the download link for super 
> duper so thanks in advance  D
> Wayne Coles
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Re: super duper

[arthur gindin]

shirt pocket

On 11/17/12 3:11 PM, Wayne Coles wrote:



hello all can some kind person please send me the download link for super duper 
so thanks in advance  D
Wayne Coles
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super duper question.

[Matthew Dyer]

Morning all.


I just received my new external HD which I use for backup.  I ran my 
first backup yesterday which took 3 hours to compleate.  Here how ever 
is the question.  I nnow have a registered copy.  When running each 
backup eiher manually or on a scedual which I have yet to setup, Does 
the drive get reformated each time or does it just search for changes 
then backs up the changes that were made since the last backup?  I would 
hate the thought of it takeing 3 hours to copy   everything each time.  
I am going to be reinstalling the os this weekend hopefuly (see last 
poste.)  Also, after a fresh install, will it be possible to copy 
seartain things overlike files or say an itunes lybrairry back?  Thanks.



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Issue with Super Duper

[Richard Ring]

I'm experiencing a weird issue with Super Duper. The app is telling that it 
can't find my source volume. That is rather strange, in that the source volume 
I would be backing up is my internal hard drive, which, incidently, is function 
normally. If anyone has any idea why this is occurring, I'll be so grateful. I 
am without a clue.


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Re: Super duper Help

[arthur gindin]

write the author.  he has always been most helpful to me.

On 8/26/13 6:51 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
Morning list members, I know there are a few podcasts out there 
regarding super duper. I am interested in the program and downloaded 
the image file from shirt pocket. However when I click on the file all 
I get is the initial agreement screen then a list view table with a 
quick start rtf file and the users guide in pdf. Clicking on the 
application icon seems to do nothing. Any help would be appreciated.




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Re: Super duper Help

[Nicholas Parsons]

What did you see when you opened the .dmg disc image file? Did you see a .pkg 
installer file or a .app application file? If you see the .pkg installer file 
you should open that, if you see a .app application file you should copy and 
paste it to your applications folder.

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RE: Super duper Help

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, now that makes sense no nothing installation wise, but yes the
application file is there. I will copy it to the application folder. That
step I have not taken. Thanks for the help.

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What did you see when you opened the .dmg disc image file? Did you see a
.pkg installer file or a .app application file? If you see the .pkg
installer file you should open that, if you see a .app application file you
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vm and super duper

[wayne17a]

Hello all I have a mbp13in with ml running vm 5 using super duper and would
like to know will super duper clone my vm aswhile so when when the update
comes out I just have to access my restore partition and run the clone hope
this makes sense thanks in advance

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Re: Using super duper

[Robert Hill]

Hi Matt,

Super Duper is easy to use.
You run the program, set up your source and destination drives using pop-ups.
You can choose whether to do a "smart" backup wihch bcks up only newer files.
It's set it and forget it and use it.

Bob Hill

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> Hey all.
> I was just wondering how to use super duper? I want to use something other 
> than time machine for backing up.
> Thank you.
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Re: Using super duper

[Matt Dierckens]

Hey Bob.
So which popup is which? Thank you.
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On 2013-09-26, at 9:48 AM, Robert Hill  wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> 
> Super Duper is easy to use.
> You run the program, set up your source and destination drives using pop-ups.
> You can choose whether to do a "smart" backup wihch bcks up only newer files.
> It's set it and forget it and use it.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all.
>> I was just wondering how to use super duper? I want to use something other 
>> than time machine for backing up.
>> Thank you.
>> 
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>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Using super duper

[Daniel C]

Hi,
The first one should be the source drive, and the second, the destination.

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Re: super duper scheduling

[James & Nash]

I don't know, but I think that makes sense. Although you said that Super 
Duper only makes note of the changes, there is no way that i know of for it 
to automatically know what those changes are. Also, I would think the time 
it takes to scan your drive depends on how much you have on it.
- Original Message - 
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To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
the blind" 
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:01 AM
Subject: super duper scheduling


>
> hi all when i do a smart backup why is so much changing since last
> night I have hardly done anything yet it takes at least ten fifteen
> ormore minutes to do a smart backup?
> It is strange it takes a long time to scan the whole drive again to
> note changes
> WIll
>
>
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Re: super duper scheduling

[John JD Denning]

10 to 15 minutes to scan a full system and backup changed items  
doesn't seem long to me. I am assuming you have it set to backup ALL,  
not just your user folders. So we're not just talking about documents  
you edit. But anything system files settings files anything that it  
backs up it looks to see if it changed. Think how long it took to do a  
complete backup the first time, likely over an hour, maybe much more.

But if you want to know you can look at the logs and see exactly what  
it backed up, and what it did.

Just schedule it to backup on it's own at a time when you don't use  
your computer. Then you'll never see how long it takes. Just a good  
idea to check on it every so often to be SURE it backed up. Before an  
important change like upgrading to SL I booted from my Superduper  
Clone just to be sure it booted fine. I had before also, just wanted  
to be super sure I was good to go.

I used to be an Enterprise Backup System Administrator. I backed up  
servers all over the country. It takes time to move data on the  
fastest of systems. That's why I personally don't believe in cloud  
backups as backups. Only a place to archive some important files. To  
me a backup is what I get with SD. Something I can turn to in the  
event of a failure to get me back up and working with no or little  
loss of date or time. (backup soapbox.)

You can save lots of time and just have it backup your user folder.  
But if you had to restore your system you'd have to install an OS, get  
and install any updates and 3rd party applications, and install that  
backup. So give it the 15 minutes at 3 am or whenever you sleep, and  
rest good knowing you are ready.

On Sep 6, 2009, at 4:01 AM, william lomas wrote:

>   hi all when i do a smart backup why is so much changing since 
> last
> night I have hardly done anything yet it takes at least ten fifteen
> ormore minutes to do a smart backup?
> It is strange it takes a long time to scan the whole drive again to
> note changes


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Re: super duper question

[Chris Blouch]

Being that a DVD holds about 9GB you would need to have a tiny hard 
drive to fit it all on a single DVD, even with compression which at best 
would be 50%, much less if you have lots of already compressed media 
like mp3 files.

CB

Gene Richburg wrote:
> Hi guys, wondering if someone has an answer to this one.  I want to use 
> super duper to back my hd up to a dvd and I was hoping to compress it so 
> that it would hopefully all fit on one disk, is this possible? 
>
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Re: super duper question.

[E.T.]

   Once you made the first backup, you can use Smart Update to do 
incremental backups which of course is quicker.


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On 7/19/2017 5:05 AM, Matthew Dyer wrote:

Morning all.


I just received my new external HD which I use for backup.  I ran my
first backup yesterday which took 3 hours to compleate.  Here how ever
is the question.  I nnow have a registered copy.  When running each
backup eiher manually or on a scedual which I have yet to setup, Does
the drive get reformated each time or does it just search for changes
then backs up the changes that were made since the last backup?  I would
hate the thought of it takeing 3 hours to copy   everything each time.
I am going to be reinstalling the os this weekend hopefuly (see last
poste.)  Also, after a fresh install, will it be possible to copy
seartain things overlike files or say an itunes lybrairry back?  Thanks.


Matthew





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RE: super duper question.

[Matthew Dyer]

Thanks.  Will give this another look.  I didn't see whare to set that up.

Matthew



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Once you made the first backup, you can use Smart Update to do incremental 
backups which of course is quicker.

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On 7/19/2017 5:05 AM, Matthew Dyer wrote:
> Morning all.
>
>
> I just received my new external HD which I use for backup.  I ran my 
> first backup yesterday which took 3 hours to compleate.  Here how ever 
> is the question.  I nnow have a registered copy.  When running each 
> backup eiher manually or on a scedual which I have yet to setup, Does 
> the drive get reformated each time or does it just search for changes 
> then backs up the changes that were made since the last backup?  I would
> hate the thought of it takeing 3 hours to copy   everything each time.
> I am going to be reinstalling the os this weekend hopefuly (see last
> poste.)  Also, after a fresh install, will it be possible to copy 
> seartain things overlike files or say an itunes lybrairry back?  Thanks.
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>

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time machine or super duper

[ppowells09]

Per an accessibility standpoint, Please any input on whether one can use time 
machine on its own or superduper to back up one's computer.
I need to take my mac to the apple store tomorrow. I want an accessibile means 
to backk up its data before I take it in.
Any help you, as a list could offer would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: Issue with Super Duper

[Daniel C]

Double check in the source button that your internal is selected and 
checked-off. If worse comes to worse and the issue persists, contact 
Shirt-Pocket support.

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Re: vm and super duper

[Phil Halton]

Wayne, superDuper will, as you know, make a clone copy of your Mac HD, which 
includes your VMWare installation and all your VM's. Now, you can selectively 
copy back any file off your superDuper created clone onto your system, and that 
includes your windows VM. You simply open the clone whether it be a bootable 
image or a sparse bundle doesn't matter, you just mount the image and browse 
for the files you want.
As long as the new VMWare version is backward compatible with previous 
versions, and I am sure that it is, you can  copyback your  .vmware file and 
open it in fusion 6.
P.S. please verify anything I say before acting on it, this is just my best 
guess.


On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:35 AM, wayne17a  wrote:

> Hello all I have a mbp13in with ml running vm 5 using super duper and would 
> like to know will super duper clone my vm aswhile so when when the update 
> comes out I just have to access my restore partition and run the clone hope 
> this makes sense thanks in advance
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RE: vm and super duper

[wayne17a]

Thanks phil that is what I thought but I did not see any
harm in asking so again thanks

 

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Wayne, superDuper will, as you know, make a clone copy of your Mac HD, which
includes your VMWare installation and all your VM's. Now, you can
selectively copy back any file off your superDuper created clone onto your
system, and that includes your windows VM. You simply open the clone whether
it be a bootable image or a sparse bundle doesn't matter, you just mount the
image and browse for the files you want.

As long as the new VMWare version is backward compatible with previous
versions, and I am sure that it is, you can  copyback your  .vmware file and
open it in fusion 6.

P.S. please verify anything I say before acting on it, this is just my best
guess.

 

 

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Hello all I have a mbp13in with ml running vm 5 using super duper and would
like to know will super duper clone my vm aswhile so when when the update
comes out I just have to access my restore partition and run the clone hope
this makes sense thanks in advance

 

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Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Janine Smith]

Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with VoiceOver? I 
want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning towards Carbon Copy. 
Thanks. Regards Janine

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Re: time machine or super duper

[Danny Noonan]

You want to do a full backup of your internal drive with superdooper and even 
better if you make it bootable. Time machine is a different kind of backup. 




Danny. 
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On 07/06/2013, at 8:11 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Per an accessibility standpoint, Please any input on whether one can use time 
> machine on its own or superduper to back up one's computer.
> I need to take my mac to the apple store tomorrow. I want an accessibile 
> means to backk up its data before I take it in.
> Any help you, as a list could offer would be appreciated.
> 
> Pam Francis
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Re: time machine or super duper

[Nicholas Parsons]

Yep, and SuperDuper is completely accessible.

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Christopher Hallsworth]

I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. 
Some things are also not available for free.


Christopher Hallsworth
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On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:

Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with VoiceOver? I 
want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning towards Carbon Copy. 
Thanks. Regards Janine

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Michael Marshall]

is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
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> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm correct 
> back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some things 
> are also not available for free.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
>> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with VoiceOver? 
>> I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning towards Carbon 
>> Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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RE: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[M. Taylor]

Hello,

I am a huge fan and longtime user of Super duper.

It is totally VoiceOver accessible and works with both Maverick and
Yosemite.  

Mark

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is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
wrote:

> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm
correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some
things are also not available for free.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
>> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
>> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am 
>> leaning towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Faisal]

How does it differ from time machine?
On Aug 26, 2014, at 1:01 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am a huge fan and longtime user of Super duper.
> 
> It is totally VoiceOver accessible and works with both Maverick and
> Yosemite.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper
> 
> is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
> On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
> wrote:
> 
>> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm
> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some
> things are also not available for free.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
>>> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
>>> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am 
>>> leaning towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Christopher Hallsworth]

It replicates sector by sector what is on your volume. I don't think 
Time Machine does this. It certainly doesn't let you boot into the 
backed up image anyway.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 26/08/2014 09:16, Faisal wrote:

How does it differ from time machine?
On Aug 26, 2014, at 1:01 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:


Hello,

I am a huge fan and longtime user of Super duper.

It is totally VoiceOver accessible and works with both Maverick and
Yosemite.

Mark

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is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
wrote:


I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm

correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some
things are also not available for free.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu

On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:

Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with
VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am
leaning towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Christopher Hallsworth]

It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:

is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm correct 
back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some things are 
also not available for free.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:

Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with VoiceOver? I 
want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning towards Carbon Copy. 
Thanks. Regards Janine

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on my device 
to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to install additional 
software that duplicates built-in functionality, unless that additional 
software brings some kind of added value.  Is there any reason why one would be 
better off with one of these apps than with time machine?  Time Machine has 
always worked for me, though I have never had a hard disk crash, so haven't 
really had to put it to the test.  But I have restored from Time Machine 
Backups onto new Macs, and that process has always gone quite well.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
>> On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
>>> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some 
>>> things are also not available for free.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
 Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
 VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning 
 towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Christopher Hallsworth]

You can't boot from the Time Machine backup like you can with Superduper 
or Carbon Copy Cloner. I agree with your sentiments however it is one of 
these occasions where perhaps using third parties offers benefits set 
out from the built in ones.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 26/08/2014 12:44, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on my device 
to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to install additional 
software that duplicates built-in functionality, unless that additional 
software brings some kind of added value.  Is there any reason why one would be 
better off with one of these apps than with time machine?  Time Machine has 
always worked for me, though I have never had a hard disk crash, so haven't 
really had to put it to the test.  But I have restored from Time Machine 
Backups onto new Macs, and that process has always gone quite well.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:

is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm correct 
back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some things are 
also not available for free.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:

Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with VoiceOver? I 
want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning towards Carbon Copy. 
Thanks. Regards Janine

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Donna Goodin]

OK, that makes sense.  Definitely something to think about.  Thanks, Chris.
Donna
On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> You can't boot from the Time Machine backup like you can with Superduper or 
> Carbon Copy Cloner. I agree with your sentiments however it is one of these 
> occasions where perhaps using third parties offers benefits set out from the 
> built in ones.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 12:44, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on my 
>> device to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to install 
>> additional software that duplicates built-in functionality, unless that 
>> additional software brings some kind of added value.  Is there any reason 
>> why one would be better off with one of these apps than with time machine?  
>> Time Machine has always worked for me, though I have never had a hard disk 
>> crash, so haven't really had to put it to the test.  But I have restored 
>> from Time Machine Backups onto new Macs, and that process has always gone 
>> quite well.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
 is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace 
 it?
 On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
  wrote:
 
> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. 
> Some things are also not available for free.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
>> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
>> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning 
>> towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

Most people who are really in to backing up their data believe that three 
backups are the safest approach. I personally use Time Machine to backup 
automatically. I use SuperDuper and make a bootable clone of my computer once a 
week. I also subscribe to an off sight backup service called Back Blaze. It 
automatically keeps the data files on my computer backed up in the cloud.

Time Machine is good for retrieving a file that you deleted by mistake. A clone 
is good if your hard disk fails and you need to quickly get up and running. 
Offsight backups are good if something happens to your local backup.

All of the solutions that I have mentioned worked well with VoiceOver. There is 
a really excellent book from Take Control Books called "Take Control of Backing 
Up Your Mac."
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com

Robert Carter
On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> OK, that makes sense.  Definitely something to think about.  Thanks, Chris.
> Donna
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
>> You can't boot from the Time Machine backup like you can with Superduper or 
>> Carbon Copy Cloner. I agree with your sentiments however it is one of these 
>> occasions where perhaps using third parties offers benefits set out from the 
>> built in ones.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 26/08/2014 12:44, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on my 
>>> device to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to install 
>>> additional software that duplicates built-in functionality, unless that 
>>> additional software brings some kind of added value.  Is there any reason 
>>> why one would be better off with one of these apps than with time machine?  
>>> Time Machine has always worked for me, though I have never had a hard disk 
>>> crash, so haven't really had to put it to the test.  But I have restored 
>>> from Time Machine Backups onto new Macs, and that process has always gone 
>>> quite well.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
> is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace 
> it?
> On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
>> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. 
>> Some things are also not available for free.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
>>> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
>>> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning 
>>> towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Donna Goodin]

Wow, that's a lot of backups!  thanks, Robert, nice explanation.  I don't think 
I need three, and I don't know if I would want a cloud backup anyway.  But I 
will give some thought to SuperDuper.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:36 AM, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Most people who are really in to backing up their data believe that three 
> backups are the safest approach. I personally use Time Machine to backup 
> automatically. I use SuperDuper and make a bootable clone of my computer once 
> a week. I also subscribe to an off sight backup service called Back Blaze. It 
> automatically keeps the data files on my computer backed up in the cloud.
> 
> Time Machine is good for retrieving a file that you deleted by mistake. A 
> clone is good if your hard disk fails and you need to quickly get up and 
> running. Offsight backups are good if something happens to your local backup.
> 
> All of the solutions that I have mentioned worked well with VoiceOver. There 
> is a really excellent book from Take Control Books called "Take Control of 
> Backing Up Your Mac."
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com
> 
> Robert Carter
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> OK, that makes sense.  Definitely something to think about.  Thanks, Chris.
>> Donna
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> You can't boot from the Time Machine backup like you can with Superduper or 
>>> Carbon Copy Cloner. I agree with your sentiments however it is one of these 
>>> occasions where perhaps using third parties offers benefits set out from 
>>> the built in ones.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 26/08/2014 12:44, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on my 
 device to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to install 
 additional software that duplicates built-in functionality, unless that 
 additional software brings some kind of added value.  Is there any reason 
 why one would be better off with one of these apps than with time machine? 
  Time Machine has always worked for me, though I have never had a hard 
 disk crash, so haven't really had to put it to the test.  But I have 
 restored from Time Machine Backups onto new Macs, and that process has 
 always gone quite well.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
  wrote:
 
> It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace 
>> it?
>> On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
>>> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. 
>>> Some things are also not available for free.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
 Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
 VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning 
 towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Michael Marshall]

if you do a backup of the hole system then you change a few files can it back 
up incrementally? i wouldn't want to do an entire backup every time. Time 
machine allows me to do this.
On 26 Aug 2014, at 9:32 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it replace it?
>> On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
>>> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. Some 
>>> things are also not available for free.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
 Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
 VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am leaning 
 towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I also use an off site backup called Lastpass and a time machine backup as 
well. The off site backup is incase the house is broken into and all equipment 
is stolen. Also if the house is burnt down I can still get all of my data.
Max

On 26 Aug 2014, at 10:44 pm, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Wow, that's a lot of backups!  thanks, Robert, nice explanation.  I don't 
> think I need three, and I don't know if I would want a cloud backup anyway.  
> But I will give some thought to SuperDuper.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:36 AM, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Most people who are really in to backing up their data believe that three 
>> backups are the safest approach. I personally use Time Machine to backup 
>> automatically. I use SuperDuper and make a bootable clone of my computer 
>> once a week. I also subscribe to an off sight backup service called Back 
>> Blaze. It automatically keeps the data files on my computer backed up in the 
>> cloud.
>> 
>> Time Machine is good for retrieving a file that you deleted by mistake. A 
>> clone is good if your hard disk fails and you need to quickly get up and 
>> running. Offsight backups are good if something happens to your local backup.
>> 
>> All of the solutions that I have mentioned worked well with VoiceOver. There 
>> is a really excellent book from Take Control Books called "Take Control of 
>> Backing Up Your Mac."
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, that makes sense.  Definitely something to think about.  Thanks, Chris.
>>> Donna
>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 You can't boot from the Time Machine backup like you can with Superduper 
 or Carbon Copy Cloner. I agree with your sentiments however it is one of 
 these occasions where perhaps using third parties offers benefits set out 
 from the built in ones.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 26/08/2014 12:44, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on my 
> device to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to install 
> additional software that duplicates built-in functionality, unless that 
> additional software brings some kind of added value.  Is there any reason 
> why one would be better off with one of these apps than with time 
> machine?  Time Machine has always worked for me, though I have never had 
> a hard disk crash, so haven't really had to put it to the test.  But I 
> have restored from Time Machine Backups onto new Macs, and that process 
> has always gone quite well.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
>> It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
>>> is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it 
>>> replace it?
>>> On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
 correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to register. 
 Some things are also not available for free.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am 
> leaning towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Donna Goodin]

Wow, that's a lot of backups!  Your data will certainly be well-protected, 
though.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hi,
> I also use an off site backup called Lastpass and a time machine backup as 
> well. The off site backup is incase the house is broken into and all 
> equipment is stolen. Also if the house is burnt down I can still get all of 
> my data.
> Max
> 
> On 26 Aug 2014, at 10:44 pm, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Wow, that's a lot of backups!  thanks, Robert, nice explanation.  I don't 
>> think I need three, and I don't know if I would want a cloud backup anyway.  
>> But I will give some thought to SuperDuper.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:36 AM, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Most people who are really in to backing up their data believe that three 
>>> backups are the safest approach. I personally use Time Machine to backup 
>>> automatically. I use SuperDuper and make a bootable clone of my computer 
>>> once a week. I also subscribe to an off sight backup service called Back 
>>> Blaze. It automatically keeps the data files on my computer backed up in 
>>> the cloud.
>>> 
>>> Time Machine is good for retrieving a file that you deleted by mistake. A 
>>> clone is good if your hard disk fails and you need to quickly get up and 
>>> running. Offsight backups are good if something happens to your local 
>>> backup.
>>> 
>>> All of the solutions that I have mentioned worked well with VoiceOver. 
>>> There is a really excellent book from Take Control Books called "Take 
>>> Control of Backing Up Your Mac."
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 OK, that makes sense.  Definitely something to think about.  Thanks, Chris.
 Donna
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
  wrote:
 
> You can't boot from the Time Machine backup like you can with Superduper 
> or Carbon Copy Cloner. I agree with your sentiments however it is one of 
> these occasions where perhaps using third parties offers benefits set out 
> from the built in ones.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 12:44, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on my 
>> device to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to install 
>> additional software that duplicates built-in functionality, unless that 
>> additional software brings some kind of added value.  Is there any 
>> reason why one would be better off with one of these apps than with time 
>> machine?  Time Machine has always worked for me, though I have never had 
>> a hard disk crash, so haven't really had to put it to the test.  But I 
>> have restored from Time Machine Backups onto new Macs, and that process 
>> has always gone quite well.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
 is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it 
 replace it?
 On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
  wrote:
 
> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to 
> register. Some things are also not available for free.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
>> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
>> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am 
>> leaning towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper

[Agent086b]

Yes it is.
I have all my wife's photos
 and all my music. The music contains many vinyl records that I would have to 
go through the process of converting them again.
Max

On 27 Aug 2014, at 12:16 pm, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Wow, that's a lot of backups!  Your data will certainly be well-protected, 
> though.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I also use an off site backup called Lastpass and a time machine backup as 
>> well. The off site backup is incase the house is broken into and all 
>> equipment is stolen. Also if the house is burnt down I can still get all of 
>> my data.
>> Max
>> 
>> On 26 Aug 2014, at 10:44 pm, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow, that's a lot of backups!  thanks, Robert, nice explanation.  I don't 
>>> think I need three, and I don't know if I would want a cloud backup anyway. 
>>>  But I will give some thought to SuperDuper.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:36 AM, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Most people who are really in to backing up their data believe that three 
 backups are the safest approach. I personally use Time Machine to backup 
 automatically. I use SuperDuper and make a bootable clone of my computer 
 once a week. I also subscribe to an off sight backup service called Back 
 Blaze. It automatically keeps the data files on my computer backed up in 
 the cloud.
 
 Time Machine is good for retrieving a file that you deleted by mistake. A 
 clone is good if your hard disk fails and you need to quickly get up and 
 running. Offsight backups are good if something happens to your local 
 backup.
 
 All of the solutions that I have mentioned worked well with VoiceOver. 
 There is a really excellent book from Take Control Books called "Take 
 Control of Backing Up Your Mac."
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com
 
 Robert Carter
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> OK, that makes sense.  Definitely something to think about.  Thanks, 
> Chris.
> Donna
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
>> You can't boot from the Time Machine backup like you can with Superduper 
>> or Carbon Copy Cloner. I agree with your sentiments however it is one of 
>> these occasions where perhaps using third parties offers benefits set 
>> out from the built in ones.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 26/08/2014 12:44, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have always been of the opinion that if there is viable software on 
>>> my device to accomplish a certain task, then there is no reason to 
>>> install additional software that duplicates built-in functionality, 
>>> unless that additional software brings some kind of added value.  Is 
>>> there any reason why one would be better off with one of these apps 
>>> than with time machine?  Time Machine has always worked for me, though 
>>> I have never had a hard disk crash, so haven't really had to put it to 
>>> the test.  But I have restored from Time Machine Backups onto new Macs, 
>>> and that process has always gone quite well.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 It can be used as an alternative to Time Machine.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 26/08/2014 08:24, Michael Marshall wrote:
> is this program used i conjunction with Time machine? or does it 
> replace it?
> On 26 Aug 2014, at 4:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I haven't compared the two but Superduper looks good. You can if I'm 
>> correct back up for free with nag screens once in a while to 
>> register. Some things are also not available for free.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 26/08/2014 00:37, Janine Smith wrote:
>>> Any thoughts welcome on which back-up programme works better with 
>>> VoiceOver? I want to create a bootable back-up of my mac. I am 
>>> leaning towards Carbon Copy. Thanks. Regards Janine
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Steve Holmes]

These two different apps provide different types of backups and these backups 
have different purposes.

Superduper does a full image backup as has been mentioned on this thread so 
far.  From that, you can completely restore your system to the point in time 
that image was created.  time Machine does differential backup whenever files 
change so you can restore individual files if one or more files get screwed up 
due to individual issues or events without having to restore your whole system. 
 I've heard one could actually restore an entire system from time machine but I 
would think the image restore would be easier.

On Dec 7, 2012, at 3:43 PM, David McLean  wrote:

> I would agree that if you have to choose one go with Super Duper since it 
> creates a bootable drive whereas Time Machine does not.  Not a bad idea to 
> use both though.
> On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:56 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
> 
>> I run super duper and have it setup to create a system image every week 
>> going back four weeks. That to me seems sufficient, and if I need to, I can 
>> go back four weeks to restore my system. So, if something screws up badly, 
>> and I don't notice it right away, I've got a chance of restoring to a clean 
>> state before resorting to a wipe and clean install.
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kliphton
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:11 AM
>> Subject: super-duper, or time machine and why?
>> 
>> I know what my choice is, just wondering what others use and why between 
>> these 2 backup choices.  I actually use both.  Just in case.  You never 
>> know.  Technology is not perfect.
>>  
>> Kliphton SR
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Daniel C]

Hello folks,
When I had to recover my system, Super Duper's image saved my life. The 
assistant that asks about transferring data was able to transfer over my entire 
system as I had it. So if anything maybe Super Duper might be an ok choice.
Plus, Super Duper makes your image bootable, allowing you to boot off the 
image. Restoring with Time Machine doesn't seem possible, if it is, I've never 
been successful at doing it.

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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Ray Foret Jr]

I have restored from time machine.  totally aaccessible; but, takes a little 
while.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Dec 28, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Daniel C  wrote:

> Hello folks,
> When I had to recover my system, Super Duper's image saved my life. The 
> assistant that asks about transferring data was able to transfer over my 
> entire system as I had it. So if anything maybe Super Duper might be an ok 
> choice.
> Plus, Super Duper makes your image bootable, allowing you to boot off the 
> image. Restoring with Time Machine doesn't seem possible, if it is, I've 
> never been successful at doing it.
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Cheryl Homiak]

Not only that, but super duper saved me when for some reason, on two different 
Time Machine backup choices, it churned around for a couple of hours and then 
announced that it couldn't restore from this backup! I still haven't researched 
why but I can tel you that if I keep using Time Machine I am going to verify 
and I most certainly am not going to stop using super duper.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Dec 28, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Daniel C  wrote:

> Hello folks,
> When I had to recover my system, Super Duper's image saved my life. The 
> assistant that asks about transferring data was able to transfer over my 
> entire system as I had it. So if anything maybe Super Duper might be an ok 
> choice.
> Plus, Super Duper makes your image bootable, allowing you to boot off the 
> image. Restoring with Time Machine doesn't seem possible, if it is, I've 
> never been successful at doing it.
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Ray Foret Jr]

And therefore, I am nost certainly going to get Superduper.  Many thanks.


Sincerely,
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Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Dec 28, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Not only that, but super duper saved me when for some reason, on two 
> different Time Machine backup choices, it churned around for a couple of 
> hours and then announced that it couldn't restore from this backup! I still 
> haven't researched why but I can tel you that if I keep using Time Machine I 
> am going to verify and I most certainly am not going to stop using super 
> duper.
> 
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> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
> 
>> Hello folks,
>> When I had to recover my system, Super Duper's image saved my life. The 
>> assistant that asks about transferring data was able to transfer over my 
>> entire system as I had it. So if anything maybe Super Duper might be an ok 
>> choice.
>> Plus, Super Duper makes your image bootable, allowing you to boot off the 
>> image. Restoring with Time Machine doesn't seem possible, if it is, I've 
>> never been successful at doing it.
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

As mentioned, both of these backup solutions do things differently but the same 
result in the end.  It is totally possible to use your Recovery patition to 
startup your Mac then restore from a Time Machine backup.  Similarly, you can 
use the bootable backup of SuperDuper then recover your entire HD.  Both are 
perfectly accessible and possible and both work as they should.  Technology 
occasionally does not work as it should and you could have a problem with a 
Time Machine backup just as you could have an issue with a SuperDuper image.  
I've been lucky and never experienced issues with either but that's just me.

If you are an extremely careful person, then both options are fine but either 
one will do the job fine.

JMO.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-28, at 6:31 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> These two different apps provide different types of backups and these backups 
> have different purposes.
> 
> Superduper does a full image backup as has been mentioned on this thread so 
> far.  From that, you can completely restore your system to the point in time 
> that image was created.  time Machine does differential backup whenever files 
> change so you can restore individual files if one or more files get screwed 
> up due to individual issues or events without having to restore your whole 
> system.  I've heard one could actually restore an entire system from time 
> machine but I would think the image restore would be easier.
> 
> On Dec 7, 2012, at 3:43 PM, David McLean  wrote:
> 
>> I would agree that if you have to choose one go with Super Duper since it 
>> creates a bootable drive whereas Time Machine does not.  Not a bad idea to 
>> use both though.
>> On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:56 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I run super duper and have it setup to create a system image every week 
>>> going back four weeks. That to me seems sufficient, and if I need to, I can 
>>> go back four weeks to restore my system. So, if something screws up badly, 
>>> and I don't notice it right away, I've got a chance of restoring to a clean 
>>> state before resorting to a wipe and clean install.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Kliphton
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:11 AM
>>> Subject: super-duper, or time machine and why?
>>> 
>>> I know what my choice is, just wondering what others use and why between 
>>> these 2 backup choices.  I actually use both.  Just in case.  You never 
>>> know.  Technology is not perfect.
>>> 
>>> Kliphton SR
>>> K&S Vending
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Richard Ring]

I have a Super Duper question. I purchased a license for my white Mac Book, but 
I want to install it on my Macbook Pro. Do I have to purchase another license 
to keep things legal. If I do, fine, but just wondering if anyone has had a 
similar experience.
Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As mentioned, both of these backup solutions do things differently but the 
> same result in the end.  It is totally possible to use your Recovery patition 
> to startup your Mac then restore from a Time Machine backup.  Similarly, you 
> can use the bootable backup of SuperDuper then recover your entire HD.  Both 
> are perfectly accessible and possible and both work as they should.  
> Technology occasionally does not work as it should and you could have a 
> problem with a Time Machine backup just as you could have an issue with a 
> SuperDuper image.  I've been lucky and never experienced issues with either 
> but that's just me.
> 
> If you are an extremely careful person, then both options are fine but either 
> one will do the job fine.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-12-28, at 6:31 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> These two different apps provide different types of backups and these 
>> backups have different purposes.
>> 
>> Superduper does a full image backup as has been mentioned on this thread so 
>> far.  From that, you can completely restore your system to the point in time 
>> that image was created.  time Machine does differential backup whenever 
>> files change so you can restore individual files if one or more files get 
>> screwed up due to individual issues or events without having to restore your 
>> whole system.  I've heard one could actually restore an entire system from 
>> time machine but I would think the image restore would be easier.
>> 
>> On Dec 7, 2012, at 3:43 PM, David McLean  wrote:
>> 
>>> I would agree that if you have to choose one go with Super Duper since it 
>>> creates a bootable drive whereas Time Machine does not.  Not a bad idea to 
>>> use both though.
>>> On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:56 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I run super duper and have it setup to create a system image every week 
>>>> going back four weeks. That to me seems sufficient, and if I need to, I 
>>>> can go back four weeks to restore my system. So, if something screws up 
>>>> badly, and I don't notice it right away, I've got a chance of restoring to 
>>>> a clean state before resorting to a wipe and clean install.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Kliphton
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:11 AM
>>>> Subject: super-duper, or time machine and why?
>>>> 
>>>> I know what my choice is, just wondering what others use and why between 
>>>> these 2 backup choices.  I actually use both.  Just in case.  You never 
>>>> know.  Technology is not perfect.
>>>> 
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Daniel C]

Good morning Richard,
As long as you have your license key you should be able to install it on your 
new MacBook computer. Email support to ask to be sure, but as long as you have 
it on 1 computer, I believe they allow up to 2 with 1 license key.
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Richard Ring]

I do have my key, thanks so much for your response!
Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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> Good morning Richard,
> As long as you have your license key you should be able to install it on your 
> new MacBook computer. Email support to ask to be sure, but as long as you 
> have it on 1 computer, I believe they allow up to 2 with 1 license key.
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

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Not a problem. Have a good day.

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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Phil Halton]

I run super duper and have it setup to create a system image every week going 
back four weeks. That to me seems sufficient, and if I need to, I can go back 
four weeks to restore my system. So, if something screws up badly, and I don't 
notice it right away, I've got a chance of restoring to a clean state before 
resorting to a wipe and clean install.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:11 AM
  Subject: super-duper, or time machine and why?


  I know what my choice is, just wondering what others use and why between 
these 2 backup choices.  I actually use both.  Just in case.  You never know.  
Technology is not perfect.

   

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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

What is super duper. Do you have to have  on your computer? I use time machine 
well I will when I get my I Mac. It's sitting here on my desk doing nothing 
since my Mac Book Pro went.

On 7 Dec 2012, at 04:11 PM, Kliphton  wrote:

> I know what my choice is, just wondering what others use and why between 
> these 2 backup choices.  I actually use both.  Just in case.  You never know. 
>  Technology is not perfect.
>  
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Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

[David McLean]

I would agree that if you have to choose one go with Super Duper since it 
creates a bootable drive whereas Time Machine does not.  Not a bad idea to use 
both though.
On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:56 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> I run super duper and have it setup to create a system image every week going 
> back four weeks. That to me seems sufficient, and if I need to, I can go back 
> four weeks to restore my system. So, if something screws up badly, and I 
> don't notice it right away, I've got a chance of restoring to a clean state 
> before resorting to a wipe and clean install.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kliphton
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:11 AM
> Subject: super-duper, or time machine and why?
> 
> I know what my choice is, just wondering what others use and why between 
> these 2 backup choices.  I actually use both.  Just in case.  You never know. 
>  Technology is not perfect.
>  
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Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:
I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for my 
clean system.
can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
thanks in advance

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Doing a clean install, will THe Super Duper will work?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:
AM Thinking of upgrading my mac, and from 2 years i did not make a clean 
install, so i’m thinking of doing that. but is there a way to make a super 
duper backup and use it after installing the system or it will not be a clean 
install if i do that?


need your suggestions 
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Re: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi again:
related to my question,  must i use a free USB flash drive? or any flash drive 
that i can just take the clawn image?
am asking because i don’t understand if this will make a full image on my Flash 
drive which prevent me for using the flash drive with any other thing? or just 
1 file that i can copy to any other storage?
and if it will be 1 file, how i can use it if my system got down?


> On May 5, 2018, at 2:33 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for my 
> clean system.
> can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
> my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
> thanks in advance
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RE: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

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Hello Ramy,

I strongly recommend against using a 64 GB USB flash drive to make a Superduper 
backup.  The drive is simply too slow in order to be used to boot your Mac.  It 
can be done, however, the boot up process would take over 20 minutes or so.  
Also, even after the OS was up and running, it would take up to 10 minutes for 
anything to happen, such as opening an application such as Mail.

Purchase a Thunderbolt or USB 3 128GB or higher, spinning drive for your 
Superduper backups.

Good luck,

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 5:33 AM
To: mac mailing list
Subject: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

Hi all:
I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for my 
clean system.
can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
thanks in advance

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Re: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi Mark:
So, i have my 4 TB hard drive for my data, can i use it for those back-ups or 
it must be an empty drive?


> On May 5, 2018, at 8:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Ramy,
> 
> I strongly recommend against using a 64 GB USB flash drive to make a 
> Superduper backup.  The drive is simply too slow in order to be used to boot 
> your Mac.  It can be done, however, the boot up process would take over 20 
> minutes or so.  Also, even after the OS was up and running, it would take up 
> to 10 minutes for anything to happen, such as opening an application such as 
> Mail.
> 
> Purchase a Thunderbolt or USB 3 128GB or higher, spinning drive for your 
> Superduper backups.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
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> Subject: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up
> 
> Hi all:
> I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for my 
> clean system.
> can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
> my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
> thanks in advance
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Re: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

[E.T.]

Ramy,
   I use a 4tb drive for my backups. I partitioned it into 4 so I can 
keep the various backups separate. You do not want to share a 
drive/partition with data and backups. I also eject the drive when all 
the backups are done.


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On 5/5/2018 3:11 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hi Mark:
So, i have my 4 TB hard drive for my data, can i use it for those back-ups or 
it must be an empty drive?



On May 5, 2018, at 8:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

I strongly recommend against using a 64 GB USB flash drive to make a Superduper 
backup.  The drive is simply too slow in order to be used to boot your Mac.  It 
can be done, however, the boot up process would take over 20 minutes or so.  
Also, even after the OS was up and running, it would take up to 10 minutes for 
anything to happen, such as opening an application such as Mail.

Purchase a Thunderbolt or USB 3 128GB or higher, spinning drive for your 
Superduper backups.

Good luck,

Mark

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On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 5:33 AM
To: mac mailing list
Subject: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

Hi all:
I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for my 
clean system.
can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
thanks in advance

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Re: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi ET:
thanks so much for this, i have only 1 hard 512 GB. i was using it as a time 
machine storage, do you recommend using it? My system is not so big, so just 
128 GB is my system drive.
 and I need to use this Hard for time machine and super duper, can i?

> On May 6, 2018, at 12:18 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Ramy,
>   I use a 4tb drive for my backups. I partitioned it into 4 so I can keep the 
> various backups separate. You do not want to share a drive/partition with 
> data and backups. I also eject the drive when all the backups are done.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 5/5/2018 3:11 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hi Mark:
>> So, i have my 4 TB hard drive for my data, can i use it for those back-ups 
>> or it must be an empty drive?
>>> On May 5, 2018, at 8:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ramy,
>>> 
>>> I strongly recommend against using a 64 GB USB flash drive to make a 
>>> Superduper backup.  The drive is simply too slow in order to be used to 
>>> boot your Mac.  It can be done, however, the boot up process would take 
>>> over 20 minutes or so.  Also, even after the OS was up and running, it 
>>> would take up to 10 minutes for anything to happen, such as opening an 
>>> application such as Mail.
>>> 
>>> Purchase a Thunderbolt or USB 3 128GB or higher, spinning drive for your 
>>> Superduper backups.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 5:33 AM
>>> To: mac mailing list
>>> Subject: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for my 
>>> clean system.
>>> can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
>>> my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
>>> thanks in advance
>>> 
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Re: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

[E.T.]

   I actually now make redundant backups after a couple of mishaps. 
Unless your drive is partitioned I would npt put both Time Machine and 
SuperDuoer on it. I used to have separate smaller drives but it got too 
messy so got the 4tb.


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On 5/5/2018 3:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hi ET:
thanks so much for this, i have only 1 hard 512 GB. i was using it as a time 
machine storage, do you recommend using it? My system is not so big, so just 
128 GB is my system drive.
  and I need to use this Hard for time machine and super duper, can i?


On May 6, 2018, at 12:18 AM, E.T.  wrote:

Ramy,
   I use a 4tb drive for my backups. I partitioned it into 4 so I can keep the 
various backups separate. You do not want to share a drive/partition with data 
and backups. I also eject the drive when all the backups are done.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/5/2018 3:11 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hi Mark:
So, i have my 4 TB hard drive for my data, can i use it for those back-ups or 
it must be an empty drive?

On May 5, 2018, at 8:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

I strongly recommend against using a 64 GB USB flash drive to make a Superduper 
backup.  The drive is simply too slow in order to be used to boot your Mac.  It 
can be done, however, the boot up process would take over 20 minutes or so.  
Also, even after the OS was up and running, it would take up to 10 minutes for 
anything to happen, such as opening an application such as Mail.

Purchase a Thunderbolt or USB 3 128GB or higher, spinning drive for your 
Superduper backups.

Good luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 5:33 AM
To: mac mailing list
Subject: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

Hi all:
I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for my 
clean system.
can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
thanks in advance

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Re: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up

[Ramy Moustafa]

ok, will try to do.
Thanks so much 


> On May 6, 2018, at 12:31 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I actually now make redundant backups after a couple of mishaps. Unless 
> your drive is partitioned I would npt put both Time Machine and SuperDuoer on 
> it. I used to have separate smaller drives but it got too messy so got the 
> 4tb.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
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> On 5/5/2018 3:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hi ET:
>> thanks so much for this, i have only 1 hard 512 GB. i was using it as a time 
>> machine storage, do you recommend using it? My system is not so big, so just 
>> 128 GB is my system drive.
>>  and I need to use this Hard for time machine and super duper, can i?
>>> On May 6, 2018, at 12:18 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ramy,
>>>   I use a 4tb drive for my backups. I partitioned it into 4 so I can keep 
>>> the various backups separate. You do not want to share a drive/partition 
>>> with data and backups. I also eject the drive when all the backups are done.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 5/5/2018 3:11 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>>>> Hi Mark:
>>>> So, i have my 4 TB hard drive for my data, can i use it for those back-ups 
>>>> or it must be an empty drive?
>>>>> On May 5, 2018, at 8:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Ramy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I strongly recommend against using a 64 GB USB flash drive to make a 
>>>>> Superduper backup.  The drive is simply too slow in order to be used to 
>>>>> boot your Mac.  It can be done, however, the boot up process would take 
>>>>> over 20 minutes or so.  Also, even after the OS was up and running, it 
>>>>> would take up to 10 minutes for anything to happen, such as opening an 
>>>>> application such as Mail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Purchase a Thunderbolt or USB 3 128GB or higher, spinning drive for your 
>>>>> Superduper backups.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 5:33 AM
>>>>> To: mac mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Using 64 flash drive to make super duper back-up
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>> I need to buy a flahs drive to use it to make a super Duper  backup for 
>>>>> my clean system.
>>>>> can i use a 64 USB flash drive?
>>>>> my system now is only 40 GB with my needs.
>>>>> thanks in advance
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Re: Doing a clean install, will THe Super Duper will work?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If you use a SuperDuper backup, a Time Machine backup, or any other backup 
other than simply re-installing apps from the App Store and other places, it 
will not be a clean install.  A clean install will require you to wipe the 
drive, install MacOS, re-install apps, then copy over data manually.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2019, at 07:33, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi all:
AM Thinking of upgrading my mac, and from 2 years i did not make a clean 
install, so i’m thinking of doing that. but is there a way to make a super 
duper backup and use it after installing the system or it will not be a clean 
install if i do that?


need your suggestions 
THanks

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