[maemo-developers] GStreamer plugin development

2006-05-16 Thread Corentin Baron

Hello there,

I've made a gstreamer plugin for internal use here at INRIA. The plugin 
works well, and I have everything I need to build it on the Nokia (our 
library already works on the device), but I can't manage to build the 
plugin development package to build on the ARM target.


Does anyone know how I could handle this?

Thanks,
Corentin BARON.
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Re: [maemo-developers] GStreamer plugin development

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Corentin Baron wrote:

 Hello there,

 I've made a gstreamer plugin for internal use here at INRIA. The plugin
 works well, and I have everything I need to build it on the Nokia (our
 library already works on the device), but I can't manage to build the
 plugin development package to build on the ARM target.

Any debug/trace or log info ?? Are your using GStreamer 0.8 or 0.10?
Maemo 1.1 has if I remember correctly 0.8

Devesh

 Does anyone know how I could handle this?

 Thanks,
 Corentin BARON.
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Re: [maemo-developers] GStreamer plugin development

2006-05-16 Thread Neil Jerram
Corentin Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello there,

 I've made a gstreamer plugin [...] but I can't manage to build the
 plugin development package to build on the ARM target.

 Does anyone know how I could handle this?

How are you trying to do the ARM build, and where is the build
failing?

Regards,
Neil

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[maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Koen Kooi
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Hi,

In case anyone missed it: http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html


The biggest error in the statement:

It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet www.nokia.com/770.

nokia.com only has IT2005 downloads :(


regards,

Koen
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Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente

At least, the screenshots look promising ;-)

Thank you very much,

2006/5/16, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

ext Koen Kooi wrote:

 [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html


 Hi,

 In case anyone missed it:
 http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html


 The biggest error in the statement:

 It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet www.nokia.com/770.

It will be :) This is the 2006 IT SW Edition launch (which means we are
close to public release). Currently we do not yet have the exact final
public release date. We also intend to coincide the release of Maemo 2.0
release candidate  with the public  release. Trust me team is working
real hard :)

Cheers
Devesh



 nokia.com only has IT2005 downloads :(


 regards,

 Koen

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Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente

I hope they release the SDk first, and a pre-IT2006 image to test the
recompiled apps...

2006/5/16, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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Devesh Kothari schreef:
 ext Koen Kooi wrote:

 [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html


 Hi,

 In case anyone missed it:
 http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html


 The biggest error in the statement:

 It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet www.nokia.com/770.

 It will be :) This is the 2006 IT SW Edition launch (which means we are
 close to public release). Currently we do not yet have the exact final
 public release date. We also intend to coincide the release of Maemo 2.0
 release candidate  with the public  release. Trust me team is working
 real hard :)

So we won't get the SDK before the release, but at the same time? Given
the huge incompatibilities (app-installer, EABI) I would have thought
nokia would release the sdk a bit earlier to give the app developers a
chance to get their software out on time.

regards,

Koen

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 5/16/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ext Koen Kooi wrote:


[snip]


 So we won't get the SDK before the release, but at the same time? Given
 the huge incompatibilities (app-installer, EABI) I would have thought
 nokia would release the sdk a bit earlier to give the app developers a
 chance to get their software out on time.

Unfortunately so :( , we are trying hard but due to so many major changes
we just dont want to push out something which is either poor quality or
half cooked. IF we still are able to beat the IT 2006 to public launch
(assuming we get things stabilized enough), we will push it out the door
:)


[snip]


What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development
environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device?


Absolutely! The API changes in particular must have time to be tested, even
if it's only in Scratchbox. Personally, I'd also like to see at least some
form of product image for beta testing (not just our apps, but the OS
as well), but that's almost certainly wishful thinking now.

Otherwise people'll get upset very quickly when they upgrade and their
favourite app doesn't work!

Cheers,

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 5/16/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andrew Flegg schreef:

 Otherwise people'll get upset very quickly when they upgrade and their
 favourite app doesn't work!

I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets
released and fill them with apps that are known to work on IT2006.


Interesting idea: the opportunity could also be taken to better structure
them. The only slight niggle is that with zero third party software, how
many end-users will NOT upgrade immediately, and still want the old app
catalogues?

Cheers,

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson

 What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development
 environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device?

 Absolutely! The API changes in particular must have time to be tested, even
 if it's only in Scratchbox. Personally, I'd also like to see at least some
 form of product image for beta testing (not just our apps, but the OS
 as well), but that's almost certainly wishful thinking now.

I second that!

 Otherwise people'll get upset very quickly when they upgrade and their
 favourite app doesn't work!

I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets
released and fill them with apps that are known to work on IT2006.


Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for IT 2006.

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Andrey Khurri

Peter Robinson wrote:


 What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development
 environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real 
device?


 Absolutely! The API changes in particular must have time to be 
tested, even
 if it's only in Scratchbox. Personally, I'd also like to see at 
least some

 form of product image for beta testing (not just our apps, but the OS
 as well), but that's almost certainly wishful thinking now.

I second that!

 Otherwise people'll get upset very quickly when they upgrade and their
 favourite app doesn't work!

I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets
released and fill them with apps that are known to work on IT2006.



Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for 
IT 2006.


I also wouldn't remove wiki's application catalog 2005 completely. It 
would remain be useful for those running IT SW 2005.





Peter
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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Andrew Flegg wrote:

 On 5/16/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrew Flegg schreef:
 
   Otherwise people'll get upset very quickly when they upgrade and their
   favourite app doesn't work!
 
  I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets
  released and fill them with apps that are known to work on IT2006.

 Interesting idea: the opportunity could also be taken to better structure
 them. The only slight niggle is that with zero third party software, how
 many end-users will NOT upgrade immediately, and still want the old app
 catalogues?

I am of the opinion that everyone MUST be advised to upgrade
Since
- it is a free upgrade
- Maintaining Maemo 1.1 and 2.0 which are incompatible is a big
  problem (proposal is move Maemo 1.1 to archive status)
- It just causes confusion if  Maemo 1.1  and 2.0 applications  start  to
  coexist especially to the end user (Maemo 2.0 Application installer
  would refuse to install anyway)

So I am of the opinion as Koen, to deprecate the Application Catalogue
page and start with a clean slate, and as suggested take the opportunity
to reorganize the new catalogue better.

Remember now the concept of
- click on download link in application catalogue page, browser opens AI, AI
  installer installs WOULD NOT WORK since we moving to full package
management and
  repository structure (Unless off course packages are as self
constained as they
  with Maemo 1.1, but that we all agree is not real package management :).


So we need to come up with the concept of community contrib repository
where the
3rd party applications could be uploaded


Devesh


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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Koen Kooi wrote:

 Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html


 Devesh Kothari schreef:
  ext Koen Kooi wrote:

  [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html
 

  Hi,
 
  In case anyone missed it:
  http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html
 
 
  The biggest error in the statement:
 
  It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet
 www.nokia.com/770.
 
  It will be :) This is the 2006 IT SW Edition launch (which means we are
  close to public release). Currently we do not yet have the exact final
  public release date. We also intend to coincide the release of Maemo 2.0
  release candidate  with the public  release. Trust me team is working
  real hard :)

 So we won't get the SDK before the release, but at the same time? Given
 the huge incompatibilities (app-installer, EABI) I would have thought
 nokia would release the sdk a bit earlier to give the app developers a
 chance to get their software out on time.

Unfortunately so :( , we are trying hard but due to so many major changes
we just dont want to push out something which is either poor quality or
half cooked. IF we still are able to beat the IT 2006 to public launch
(assuming
we get things stabilized enough), we will push it out the door :)

Another reason, is we dont just want to push the Maemo 2.0 till we get the
public upgrade IT 2006. Since we know Maemo 2.0 would be binary
incompatible,
the applications cross compiled on the development environment would not
run
on the current IT 2005 edition (on device) out there, so developers cant
really
test it on the device.

What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development
environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device?

Devesh

 regards,

 Koen

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Devesh Kothari wrote:

Another reason, is we dont just want to push the Maemo 2.0 till we get the
public upgrade IT 2006. Since we know Maemo 2.0 would be binary
incompatible,
the applications cross compiled on the development environment would not
run
on the current IT 2005 edition (on device) out there, so developers cant
really
test it on the device.


Can't we have at least developer rootfs for Maemo 2.0? But with working 
multimedia if posible. Opera etc. isn't needed for testing.


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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:

 Devesh Kothari wrote:
  Another reason, is we dont just want to push the Maemo 2.0 till we
 get the
  public upgrade IT 2006. Since we know Maemo 2.0 would be binary
  incompatible,
  the applications cross compiled on the development environment would not
  run
  on the current IT 2005 edition (on device) out there, so developers cant
  really
  test it on the device.

 Can't we have at least developer rootfs for Maemo 2.0? But with working
 multimedia if posible. Opera etc. isn't needed for testing.

Thats what is the internal goal to get Maemo 2.0 pre release together with a
developer rootfs, with a functionality similar to Maemo 1.1 but upgraded
components,
new toolchain etc BUT to tell you the truth, its not looking very good,
but will post
more updates later this week

Devesh

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Roberto Resoli

--- cut ---

 I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets
 released and fill them with apps that are known to work on IT2006.

Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for IT 2006.


I vote for this last option.
Roberto



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[maemo-developers] gtkmm in scratchbox, build documentation

2006-05-16 Thread Damaris Kröger

Hello Murray,

now, I have installed Doxygen in the scratchbox and I built the 
documentation for gtkmm without problems.
But I had problems to build the documentation for hildon-fmmm and 
hildon-widgetsmm.


[sbox-SDK_PC: ~/Sourcen/hildon-fmmm-REV-1469/hildon-fmmm/docs/reference] 
 make all

doxygen Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `SHOW_DIRECTORIES   =' at line 58, 
file Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `FILE_VERSION_FILTER=' at line 59, 
file Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `WARN_NO_PARAMDOC   =' at line 67, 
file Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `FILTER_PATTERNS=' at line 84, 
file Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `GROUP_GRAPHS   =' at line 
199, file Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `DIRECTORY_GRAPH=' at line 
206, file Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `DOT_TRANSPARENT=' at line 
213, file Doxyfile
Warning: ignoring unsupported tag `DOT_MULTI_TARGETS  =' at line 
214, file Doxyfile

Error: tag INPUT: input source [EMAIL PROTECTED]@' does not exist
make: *** [hildon-libsmm-reference] Error 1

I hope you can help me.

Regards,

Damaris



On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 12:55 +0200, Damaris Kröger wrote:
 


Hello,

now I have installed the hildon-fmmm and the hildon-widgetsmm.

The problem was the separate command:
./configure --prefix/usr

With these command the installation works:
./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --prefix=/usr
   



Now I understand. You should use the autogen.sh files when building
modules from cvs, instead of guessing the appropriate incantations for
aclocal, autoconf, automake, etc.

 

But where is the documentation of the libs? How could I create the 
documentation?
   



You need to have doxygen. Unfortunately, it's not available from Maemo's
repository, so you'll have to build it from source. Then rebuild from a
fresh checkout.

I'll try to put them online somewhere. They probably are not that great
yet.

 




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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Urho Konttori
I recommend that a live cd or similiar would be launched some time in 
advance.


That would allow developers to compile their apps in there and switch 
their own systems to 2.0 when 2.0 is in final state and 2006 is out.


If live cd is hard to make, then a vmware image.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Murray Cumming
 So we need to come up with the concept of community contrib repository
 where the
 3rd party applications could be uploaded

Yes, yes, yes. (Please)

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Nils Faerber
Devesh Kothari schrieb:
 What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development
 environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device?

Very brief:
YES!

I think Koen is perfectly right that developers should get a chance to
cross compile their apps with the new dev-env. Even if not being able to
test them on the device directly it will still dramatically shorten the
time from release of IT2006 until getting stable apps for the new
environment.
So I think it is really worth it.

Besides it might also be nice for Nokia to get early feedback on the
Maemo 2.0 and probably be able to fix minor things.


I also think it would be a good policy that the community will always
get information first before official press releases ;)

 Devesh
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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson

 What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development
 environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device?

Very brief:
YES!

I think Koen is perfectly right that developers should get a chance to
cross compile their apps with the new dev-env. Even if not being able to
test them on the device directly it will still dramatically shorten the
time from release of IT2006 until getting stable apps for the new
environment.
So I think it is really worth it.

Besides it might also be nice for Nokia to get early feedback on the
Maemo 2.0 and probably be able to fix minor things.


Yes, I agree whole heartedly. To have the base platform in place
people can test their apps and give feedback that way you can get a
much wider testing of the base platform before launch and possibly fix
any brown paper bag issues that others may catch. It also allows the
app developers to test their apps in the maemo v2 environment so they
can get them running  in the dev env and just have to do final testing
in the live image when it ships to fix any minor issues allowing
updated apps to hit the net shortly after the launch. There are
certainly some apps that I use constantly that will stop me from
directly upgrading to thee IT2006 before they become available.

Cheers,
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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

 I recommend that a live cd or similiar would be launched some time in
 advance.

 That would allow developers to compile their apps in there and switch
 their own systems to 2.0 when 2.0 is in final state and 2006 is out. 

What's the problem of apt-get installing a new EABI Scrathcbox toolchain
+ creating a separate target for IT2006 (using that toolchain)?

You can have multiple targets in Scratchbox, each with their own
CPU architecture, toolchain, software etc...


- Eero

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:51:44AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
 Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for IT 
 2006.
Like this one:

  http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006

:)

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote:

 On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:51:44AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
  Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for IT
  2006.
 Like this one:

   http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006

Some thinking here might help :), there have been some proposals
about how this application catalogue can be reorganized and managed

I for one am looking for a system
1. which is as easy as wiki to add
2. some policy what is acceptable and not acceptable [remember the
thread we had about
when one of the entry was removed]
3. possiblity to sort/search applications (already thinking about
device/maemo/IT SW edition compatible/WIP/testing/stable i.e this
application is known to work with Maemo 2.0)
4. some kind of user ranking system (user feedback possibility)
5. some possibility to have top 5 new submitted applications
6. some possibility to have top 5 popular applications

More ideas welcomed, lets solve this for a better solution (i dont know
if wiki will continue to solve our needs)

Devesh


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Re: [maemo-developers] GStreamer plugin development

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Corentin Baron wrote:

 Devesh Kothari wrote:

 ext Corentin Baron wrote:
 
  
 
 Hello there,
 
 I've made a gstreamer plugin for internal use here at INRIA. The plugin
 works well, and I have everything I need to build it on the Nokia (our
 library already works on the device), but I can't manage to build the
 plugin development package to build on the ARM target.
 

 
 Any debug/trace or log info ?? Are your using GStreamer 0.8 or 0.10?
 Maemo 1.1 has if I remember correctly 0.8
 
 Devesh
 
 Actualy my problem is first to have the gst-plugins package to compile
 on the ARM target inorder to have the gst-lib stuff installed. But the
 package fails to compile the tcp plugin because it couldn't find the
 dataprotocol.h header file, and I couldn't disable the tcp plugin at
 configure.

Please describe your environment, e.g SB version, rootstrap version
What GStreamer source ? version? where you obtained i.e from maemo
repository or mainstream? config.log ? etc

else its very difficult to figure out the reason
Devesh
BTW: please post to maemo-devel list, so others can possibly help you
better too ;)

 Thanks for your interest,
 Corentin.


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Re: [maemo-developers] GStreamer plugin development

2006-05-16 Thread Corentin Baron

Devesh Kothari wrote:


ext Corentin Baron wrote:

 


Devesh Kothari wrote:

   


ext Corentin Baron wrote:



 


Hello there,

I've made a gstreamer plugin for internal use here at INRIA. The plugin
works well, and I have everything I need to build it on the Nokia (our
library already works on the device), but I can't manage to build the
plugin development package to build on the ARM target.

 

   


Any debug/trace or log info ?? Are your using GStreamer 0.8 or 0.10?
Maemo 1.1 has if I remember correctly 0.8

Devesh

 


Actualy my problem is first to have the gst-plugins package to compile
on the ARM target inorder to have the gst-lib stuff installed. But the
package fails to compile the tcp plugin because it couldn't find the
dataprotocol.h header file, and I couldn't disable the tcp plugin at
configure.

   


Please describe your environment, e.g SB version, rootstrap version
What GStreamer source ? version? where you obtained i.e from maemo
repository or mainstream? config.log ? etc

else its very difficult to figure out the reason
Devesh
 

I use Scratchbox 0.9.8.5 with Maemo 1.1 and GStreamer 0.8.10 (the one 
preinstalled with maemo), everything running on a linux fedora core 4.


The error I get at compilation time with the gst-plugin package is this:


distcc[21914] ERROR: compile (null) on localhost failed
In file included from gsttcpclientsrc.h:36,
 from gsttcpplugin.c:26:
gsttcp.h:28:43: gst/dataprotocol/dataprotocol.h: No such file or directory
distcc[21913] ERROR: compile gsttcpplugin.c on localhost failed
make[4]: *** [libgsttcp_la-gsttcpplugin.lo] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11/gst/tcp'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11/gst/tcp'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11/gst'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11'
make: *** [all] Error 2


It seems that the gstreamer installation isn't complete. If I could get 
the gst-plugin configure/make to skip or forget the tcp plugin, which I 
don't need, I think I could also have my own plugin compiling.

Corentin
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[maemo-developers] Xephyr troubles

2006-05-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I wanted to start using Encode (http://encode.sourceforge.net) for my maemo 
developments so I installed Xephyr on my Ubuntu host using apt-get install 
(xserver-xephyr 6.6.1-0ubuntu1).

I have a problem illustrated by the code of the following expose callback:

scrWidget-background and scrWidget-pixmap are 2 pixmaps.
scrWidget-pixmap contains scribbles rendered on mouse down and mouse move 
events.
 
when i comment out the drawing of one of the 2 pixmaps, the other get displayed 
correctly.
 
when i combine them using GDK_AND it works when launching Xephyr from  its 
location inside scratchbox (as provided by the Maemo 1.1 i386 tarball)
 
when i combine them using GDK_AND it does not work when launching Xephyr from 
my Ubuntu host (Xephyr has been installed using apt-get install)
what i get displayed is the content of the scrWidget-pixmap (black scribbles 
on a white background) which does not blend with the background pixmap at all.
 
in both cases the Xephyr command line used is:
Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x16 -dpi 96 -ac

i don\'t know if the detail is usefull or not but when launching Xephyr from 
the scratchbox path (/scratchbox/users/guardian/targets/SDK_PC/usr/bin/Xephyr), 
it opens up with a white background

when launching Xephyr from the ubuntu host path (/usr/bin/Xephyr), it opens up 
with a traditional \checkboard\ background, which makes me thinkg that 
somehow the configuration is not exactly the same.

so ... am I doing something wrong in my code ? or is there something to 
configure on my Xephyr ubuntu installation ???

gboolean callbackExpose(GtkWidget* widget, GdkEventExpose* event, 
ScribbleWidget* scrWidget)
{
  GdkGC* gc = gdk_gc_new(widget-window);
 
  gdk_draw_drawable(widget-window,
widget-style-fg_gc[GTK_WIDGET_STATE(widget)],
scrWidget-background,
event-area.x,
event-area.y,
event-area.x,
event-area.y,
event-area.width,
event-area.height);
 
  gdk_gc_copy(gc,widget-style-fg_gc[GTK_WIDGET_STATE(widget)]);
  gdk_gc_set_function(gc,GDK_AND);
 
  gdk_draw_drawable(widget-window,
gc,
scrWidget-pixmap,
event-area.x,
event-area.y,
event-area.x,
event-area.y,
event-area.width,
event-area.height);
 
  g_object_unref(gc);
 
  return FALSE;
}

Thx for any help.
Regards,
G.
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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Koen Kooi
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Nils Faerber schreef:
 Devesh Kothari schrieb:
 I also think it would be a good policy that the community will always
 get information first before official press releases ;)

The only actual news was integration with gizmo and a commitment to
deliver it in june, the rest[2] has been on
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html for some time now.

regards,

Koen


[2] and on the debian-arm and maemo-dev mailinglists as well
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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson

 I also think it would be a good policy that the community will always
 get information first before official press releases ;)

The only actual news was integration with gizmo and a commitment to
deliver it in june, the rest[2] has been on
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html for some time now.


If you look at the press release it doesn't actually say integration
with Gizmo. It says 'can also support SIP based VoIP solutions' and
that standalone apps are planned.

The full paragraph.
The upgraded Internet Tablet software platform can also support SIP
based VoIP solutions for broadband business benefit. Standalone
software applications, like the popular Gizmo Project by SIPPhone Inc,
is planned to be available for the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. The
Gizmo Project has a rich feature set including the capability to make
and receive calls from public telephony networks.

So I think actually shipped with the OS will be gtalk/jabber and then
the rest will be available as addons probably provided by the actually
SIP companies themselves.

Peter
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Re: [maemo-developers] GStreamer plugin development

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Corentin Baron wrote:

 Devesh Kothari wrote:

 ext Corentin Baron wrote:
 
  
 
 Devesh Kothari wrote:
 

 
 ext Corentin Baron wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
 Hello there,
 
 I've made a gstreamer plugin for internal use here at INRIA. The
 plugin
 works well, and I have everything I need to build it on the Nokia (our
 library already works on the device), but I can't manage to build the
 plugin development package to build on the ARM target.
 
  
 

 
 Any debug/trace or log info ?? Are your using GStreamer 0.8 or 0.10?
 Maemo 1.1 has if I remember correctly 0.8
 
 Devesh
 
  
 
 Actualy my problem is first to have the gst-plugins package to compile
 on the ARM target inorder to have the gst-lib stuff installed. But the
 package fails to compile the tcp plugin because it couldn't find the
 dataprotocol.h header file, and I couldn't disable the tcp plugin at
 configure.
 

 
 Please describe your environment, e.g SB version, rootstrap version
 What GStreamer source ? version? where you obtained i.e from maemo
 repository or mainstream? config.log ? etc
 
 else its very difficult to figure out the reason
 Devesh
  
 
 I use Scratchbox 0.9.8.5 with Maemo 1.1 and GStreamer 0.8.10 (the one
 preinstalled with maemo), everything running on a linux fedora core 4.

 The error I get at compilation time with the gst-plugin package is this:

  distcc[21914] ERROR: compile (null) on localhost failed
  In file included from gsttcpclientsrc.h:36,
   from gsttcpplugin.c:26:
  gsttcp.h:28:43: gst/dataprotocol/dataprotocol.h: No such file or
 directory

i quickly did
=
apt-get source gstreamer0.8-osso [thats what i could find in Maemo 1.1]

./configure
./make

it build ok on arm target.
==

i can see this file here
libs/gst/dataprotocol/dataprotocol.h

so if you in hurry :) then I will open the Makefile and add
-I../libs/gst/dataprotocol/ and try again

but I suspect some problem in your build environment

HTH
Devesh


  distcc[21913] ERROR: compile gsttcpplugin.c on localhost failed
  make[4]: *** [libgsttcp_la-gsttcpplugin.lo] Error 1
  make[4]: Leaving directory
 `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11/gst/tcp'
  make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
  make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11/gst/tcp'
  make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11/gst'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cobaron/gst/gst-plugins-0.8.11'
  make: *** [all] Error 2

 It seems that the gstreamer installation isn't complete. If I could get
 the gst-plugin configure/make to skip or forget the tcp plugin, which I
 don't need, I think I could also have my own plugin compiling.
 Corentin
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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Ian
Ola,
I think some zope/plone solution could be useful here...

 1. which is as easy as wiki to add..plone has a product called wicked which 
 provides this behaviour
 2. some policy what is acceptable and not acceptable [remember the
 thread we had about
 when one of the entry was removed] ...zope it has fine grained permissions 
 with the ability to
publish/retract etc
 3. possiblity to sort/search applications (already thinking about
 device/maemo/IT SW edition compatible/WIP/testing/stable i.e this
 application is known to work with Maemo 2.0)
you can search products in plone
 4. some kind of user ranking system (user feedback possibility)
plone has this
 5. some possibility to have top 5 new submitted applications
plone has this
 6. some possibility to have top 5 popular applications
plone has this

HTH
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Ian

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Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Risto Varanka
- Forwarded message from Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I am of the opinion that everyone MUST be advised to upgrade
Since
- it is a free upgrade
- Maintaining Maemo 1.1 and 2.0 which are incompatible is a big
 problem (proposal is move Maemo 1.1 to archive status)
- It just causes confusion if  Maemo 1.1  and 2.0 applications  start  to
 coexist especially to the end user (Maemo 2.0 Application installer
 would refuse to install anyway)

From the 3rd party developer/Nokia point of view I agree, nobody wants the 
overhead for now. And all kinds of rough edges are kind of expected at this 
point, even if everybody is doing his/her best to improve things.

From a user PoV I'm doubtful. Current users want the applications, and there 
would be a plethora of other reasons to be slow in updating. Think about other 
platform products, like Red Hat, PalmOS, or Symbian, do they only support the 
latest version as well? I think in the long run you need a process that takes 
this into account.

For this upgrade, I think you'd need a developer release at least 2 weeks in 
advance for a smooth transition. This could be different things as the critical 
thing is just a way to test that one's implementation of the new APIs works, as 
early as possible. A public beta of the production image could be a way to do 
this but it involves other overhead and would bring other benefits, like 
feedback from real users, more publicity, etc.

If a smooth transition is essential in your mind you could even delay the 
production release. 

So we need to come up with the concept of community contrib repository
where the 3rd party applications could be uploaded

Something like all the repositories you can use with apt-get and sources.list 
on Debian? That could be ideal but making the maintenance smooth (everything 
needs to work with everything) is not trivial.

Risto

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[maemo-developers] Re: cant get maemo to my Xnest window

2006-05-16 Thread Daniel Monteiro
sorry the long delay, but I was a little busy.
here is the log:

[sbox-SDK_PC: ~]  export DISPLAY=localhost:2
[sbox-SDK_PC: ~]  af-sb-init.sh start
Sample files present.
Starting DBUS system bus
Starting D-BUS session bus daemon
Starting Sapwood image server
Starting Matchbox window manager
Starting Keyboard
Starting Task Navigator
Starting Home
Starting Statusbar

and the Xnest init log:
Sandbox:/home/cacto# /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_ctl start
Registering Scratchbox binary formats: done.
Mounting Scratchbox directories: done.
Sandbox:/home/cacto# exit
exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Xnest -geometry 800x480 -ac :2 
[1] 3682
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Could not init font path element
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!

this Xnest message means anything special?

thanks

Daniel NeoStrider Monteiro

PS: soon my project will be available in sourceforge.
keep your eyes open!





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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: cant get maemo to my Xnest window

2006-05-16 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Daniel Monteiro wrote:
 sorry the long delay, but I was a little busy.
 here is the log:

 [sbox-SDK_PC: ~]  export DISPLAY=localhost:2
 [sbox-SDK_PC: ~]  af-sb-init.sh start
 Sample files present.
 Starting DBUS system bus
 Starting D-BUS session bus daemon
 Starting Sapwood image server
 Starting Matchbox window manager
 Starting Keyboard
 Starting Task Navigator
 Starting Home
 Starting Statusbar

 and the Xnest init log:
 Sandbox:/home/cacto# /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_ctl start
 Registering Scratchbox binary formats: done.
 Mounting Scratchbox directories: done.
 Sandbox:/home/cacto# exit
 exit
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Xnest -geometry 800x480 -ac :2 
 [1] 3682
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Could not init font path element
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!

 this Xnest message means anything special?

   

Nope nothing special. I think you should also give Xnest the colordepth
using '-depth 16' option. Before launching maemo-environment from
scratchbox you might want to try launching some random program (xterm)
to it and see that it works.

However, you should really consider to use Xephyr instead of Xnest so
that you don't need to change your native X-server colordepth.

 thanks

 Daniel NeoStrider Monteiro

 PS: soon my project will be available in sourceforge.
 keep your eyes open!



   

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