MD: end search?

1999-10-12 Thread Wall, Nicholas


Hi All,

I'm new to this MD game, and thinking of getting my first md, the sony
mz-r90, either that or the Sharp MT-831. Does anyone have any thoughts on
which they think is better, and why?

Also, what the hell is 'End Search'?

Cheers,

Nick.
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MD: Handling a large cassette inventory

1999-10-12 Thread Simon Mackay


Hi everyone!

Now that I am moving onto MiniDisc, I am wanting to know what to do as
regards with my cassette inventory which consists mostly of tapes made off
FM radio over the last 14 years; a couple of out-of-print Musicassettes; as
well as a significant number of compilation tapes, some of which contain
material from various recordings that were lost in various moves.

I don't want to get rid of the tapes but want to know which way to go as
regards copying them to MiniDisc or being able to play them as required. If
I buy a CD-MiniDisc bookshelf system like the Sony DHC-MD373 or DHC-MD555,
should I ever buy any of the optional companion tape decks or look for
another deck from Sony or another manufacturer. What should I look for in a
secondary tape deck which will be primarily used for playback. On the other
hand, should I look for one of those  "4-in-1" bookshelf system which has
CD, radio, cassette and MiniDisc.

On the other hand, I could make up a system based around a receiver;
cassette deck; and either a CD player / changer and MiniDisc deck, or a
CD-MD combo deck like the Sony MXD-D3 or JVC XU-301BK .

If I go for the latter option, what should I look for in a cassette deck for
such a setup -- I don't want to get more than I need for this kind of
arrangement. Some of the key features that I am after include logic control
and support for Dolby B at least. On the other hand, should I buy secondhand
cassette decks and how should I go about buying them -- buy through the
local free-ads paper, buy through word-of-mouth, or scout the hock-shops,
consignment stores and secondhand dealers.

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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MD: Recording compilations with a high degree of contril.

1999-10-12 Thread Simon Mackay


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Hi everyone!

When building MiniDisc compilations of select tracks from assorted CDs, I
tend to prefer a high degree of control as far as tightening the spaces
between songs so there is no silent space between the songs because of my
Sony portable suppoirting "back-to-back" shuffle play. Should I be using
separate CD and MiniDisc units or can I achieve some control when using
CD-MD combo units or bookshelf systems.

If I use CD-MD combo decks or bookshelf systems for the exercise, can I use
the "easy-record" functions on these decks and "clean up" the MiniDisc using
the unit's editing functions (chisel off silent leaders and trailers by
dividing at the head and tail of the song then erasing the blank tracks) or
should I stick to total "hands-on" manual control during the recording
sessions.

If I use separate decks and the CD player is equipped with a matching
digital output, can I achieve this same level of control when I go the
digital-direct route which yields the SCMS-final recordings or should I stay
with the analog route and make SCMS-penultimate recordings. Also, with
either path, should I use programmed-play on the CD player and use any
sync-start or automatic track-marking facilities that the setup offers.

At the moment, I feed my Discman into a borrowed JE-520 in order to do
theise recordings, but am looking at buying a sound system which caters for
this format, while realizing that I have a significant inventory of
cassettes including some recorded during and since my teenage years.

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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Re: MD: end search?

1999-10-12 Thread Graham Baker


Welcome to the MD world Nick.

Your question about 'end search' is just about to start world war three on
MD-L.
Lots of comments are about to be posted - I'll start the ball rolling - end
search is a totally redundant function that Sony (still) use on their
portable recorders to find the end of the recorded section of a disc, from
which point you can start your new recording.

The Sharps and other portables and even the Sony home decks don't require
this function, they 'end search' automatically when the record button is
pressed, although they can 'over-write' if you wish, something the Sony
portables do automatically if you forget to press 'end search' first.

If you can't figure out the logic in the above, don't worry you are not
alone as you are about to find out.:-)

GB



 Hi All,

 I'm new to this MD game, and thinking of getting my first md, the sony
 mz-r90, either that or the Sharp MT-831. Does anyone have any thoughts on
 which they think is better, and why?

 Also, what the hell is 'End Search'?

 Cheers,

 Nick.


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MD: headphones: down to 2

1999-10-12 Thread Tracy Doyle


Regarding my last post thread on best headphones.I order the Koss 
Portapros for my small headphones, but now I am down to 2 choices for the 
full size, either the Grado SR60 or the Sennheiser 490's.  What so you guys 
think?  I have heard through many sites that the Grado's are the best [for 
portable players] but that they are uncomfortable.  I can't find any local 
dealer where I live that carry the Grados for me to try them out.  I have 
however been able to find and try out the Sennheisers and I must say I found 
them very light and comfortable.  I thought the sound was very good as well. 
  Anybody own the Grados that can comment on the sound and comfort of these 
headphones??  I can get the Grados for $69 and the Sennheisers for @$80.  
SOwhich one should I get?  I would like a headphone that has very good 
bass response as not to get that "treblely" headphone sound, but I don't 
want a pair of phones that are uncomfortable to wear..

-Thanks for any help
-Trace

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Re: MD: headphones: down to 2

1999-10-12 Thread Max


Hey Guys,
I checked out a lot of headphones, and eventually went for the Beyer Dynamic
DT831. Perhaps the best sound I've ever heard. An ear massage that kept making
you want to turn it up louder and never take them off. Two probs though (1)
they're massive! and (2) my Sony MZ-R55 couldn't drive them (I didn't want the
additional hassle of headphone amplifiers). I continued searching and eventually
after many many more soundchecks, went for the Sony MDR D77, at around 120 quid
Sterling. I think they are called the MDR D55 in the U.S. - probably the same
cost but in $.

I joined this thread late so please ignore this if it's been covered before.

Cheers,
Max.

Tracy Doyle wrote:

 Regarding my last post thread on best headphones.I order the Koss
 Portapros for my small headphones, but now I am down to 2 choices for the
 full size, either the Grado SR60 or the Sennheiser 490's.  What so you guys
 think?  I have heard through many sites that the Grado's are the best [for
 portable players] but that they are uncomfortable.  I can't find any local
 dealer where I live that carry the Grados for me to try them out.  I have
 however been able to find and try out the Sennheisers and I must say I found
 them very light and comfortable.  I thought the sound was very good as well.
   Anybody own the Grados that can comment on the sound and comfort of these
 headphones??  I can get the Grados for $69 and the Sennheisers for @$80.
 SOwhich one should I get?  I would like a headphone that has very good
 bass response as not to get that "treblely" headphone sound, but I don't
 want a pair of phones that are uncomfortable to wear..

 -Thanks for any help
 -Trace

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Re: MD: DC surges, a warning

1999-10-12 Thread W.Z.


On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, PrinceGaz wrote:
 Like Jim, I was gonna say it's more likely caused by acid than volts, otherwise
 there'd be health warnings on the average PP3 battery (9v).  I'm not saying

It's the current in the car battery that makes it dangerous.  Not the
potential.  Static electricity is often in excess of thousands, ten
thousands of voltage potential, but has very little current, and only
produces a mild/annoying shock.



W. Zhang 
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Re: MD: headphones: down to 2

1999-10-12 Thread Christopher Spalding


Regarding my last post thread on best headphones.I order the Koss
Portapros for my small headphones,

are they the ones which fold up?


Christopher Spalding
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Re: MD: headphones: down to 2

1999-10-12 Thread Dan Frakes


"Tracy Doyle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anybody own the Grados that can comment on the sound and comfort of these 
headphones??  I can get the Grados for $69 and the Sennheisers for @$80.  
SOwhich one should I get?  I would like a headphone that has very good 
bass response as not to get that "treblely" headphone sound, but I don't 
want a pair of phones that are uncomfortable to wear..

I have a pair of the Grados, and have used the Senns. IMO, it comes down 
to this: the Grados sound better (including bass, especially when driven 
from a portable), but the Sennheisers are more comfortable. So you'll 
have to make the choice based on how much you value those two factors.
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Re: MD: end search?

1999-10-12 Thread Dan Frakes


"Wall, Nicholas " [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Also, what the hell is 'End Search'?

Uh-oh...

You don't know what you've done, Nicholas ;-)

Seriously, though, whenever this topic comes up there is a huge debate 
over it. I'll withhold my opinion and try to explain it fairly.

End search is an old feature that today only exists on Sony portable MD 
recorders. No other brands, nor the Sony home MD recorders, still have it.

On all other MD recorders, when you press "record" the default behavior 
is for the recording to start from the end of the material that is 
already on the MD. Basically, they start a new track. If you want, you 
can manually tell the unit to start to record elsewhere, either between 
two tracks, at the beginning of the disk or smack in the middle of a 
pre-existing track. But by default, they start recording at the end.

Sony portable recorders, on the other hand, start recording wherever you 
last left off playing or recording. So if you are recording some songs 
from a CD, and go back and listen to them or change the order, etc., the 
next time you press record during that session the Sony portable 
recorders will start to record from the last place you were at, whether 
that's at the beginning of the disk, the end, between tracks, or right in 
the middle of another song you just recorded, and it will overwrite 
whatever is there. To avoid this, you press the "end search" button, 
which basically tells the Sony portable to go to the *end* of all 
recorded material. Then you start recording from that point.

I think the above was a pretty neutral, objective way of explaining it. 
Some people like it, some hate it. Read the above and decide for yourself 
whether it makes sense to you.
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MD: Where's the End Search button for the End Search debate?

1999-10-12 Thread Paul Kowtiuk


Has the list ever been polled to find out once and for all how many people
are FOR End Search and how many are AGAINST it?  Gaz, was it you running the
list of member profiles?  Did you ask that question in the profile?  If not,
can we do a quick poll somewhere and find out just how popular this
"feature" is?  And one more question: has sony *ever* commented on their
reasoning behind including this feature?  P.S. For having accidentally
erased some recordings, you can mark me down for "against".  Thank you.

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Re: MD: Found a CD that cannot be digitally recorded on MD

1999-10-12 Thread David W. Tamkin


The inoxidizable rodent asked,

| What would happen if the record level on the masters from which the CDs
| were pressed was set higher than the allowed threshold (ie, 'OVER' on my
| 702's display) for CD media?

Then the CD would have already been spoiled by clipping in the process of
making a digital master for the CD, those passages would sound clipped when
you listen to the CD, and a digital copy to MD at unity gain would faithfully
preserve the sound as already clipped.  As I've learned here, all digital
media are incapable of representing amplitudes over 0 dB, and digital
recordings must be scaled accordingly.

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Re: MD: Sharp md-mt15 at best buy

1999-10-12 Thread Mike Malsman



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On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, J. Coon wrote:

 
 While I was at Best Buy last night getting the zipcd gadget, I noticed
 that  about 1/2 the display area that used to have MD decks and
 bookshelf units had CD duplicators.  H.  They still can't do what
 you can do with a Minidisc.  

Hrm... I went to Best Buy (south florida) this weekend and noticed that
they took some spaec out of their MD deck display to use as room for some
stereo receivers. Dissapointing.  I wonder if they're trying to back out
of the MD game (doubt it).  On the brighter side, they have been moving
the MD blanks to the front of their store by the cdr's and tapes, and they
bulked up their collection of prerecs.  Sweet.
 
 They also had a neat looking Sharp portable, I think it was MDMT15.  I
 might be wrong on the model number, but that is what I remember it as. 
 THe controls on it are marked much better than they were on the 702 I
 had, and the price seemed to be about $199.  (and no END SEARCH button
 in sight.)  I don't know what kind of batteries it uses.  
 
 
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Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #383

1999-10-12 Thread Geoffrey Goode



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In message , PrinceGaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
From: Geoffrey Goode [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Pirate radio mainly, or like us run a small radio station twice per year
 which operates using a restricted service licence issued by the UK Radio
 Authority.  A large number of the stations broadcasting in London are
 pirates.

Funny, up here in Newcastle, UK there are very few pirate radio stations,
perhaps one or two might be heard on a sunday afternoon but little else.
They're easy to spot-- generally mono transmissions, often over modulated
to sound louder, and adverts if any are... amateurish to say the least.
Mind you there's only community stations (one, Galaxy) above 104.4MHz so
theres plenty of bandspace to play with-- 106.5-108MHz is empty.

A lot of the Pirates in London have RDS, advertising departments, the
whole lot, and in Stereo.  I can't see anyone wanting to transmit in
mono these days with the reasonable cost of TXs' from some
manufacturers.  Some of them have backup systems so that if the gear is
confiscated during a swoop from the UK Communications Agency, they can
be back on air within hours sometimes minutes.

Sorry for an OT post,
PrinceGaz -- "never known to post off-topic, sort of"

I noticed:)
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Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #383

1999-10-12 Thread Geoffrey Goode



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In message , Magic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Geoffrey Goode wrote:

 For non UK subscribers the dog licence was withdrawn in the UK several
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MONTY PYTHON

'ello... I'd like to buy a fish license please.

/MONTY PYTHON

Would that be for a fish with or without a lead! :)
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Re: MD: Iomega CD Drive

1999-10-12 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


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* Geoffrey Goode [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Tue, 12 Oct 1999
| But not for reading CDs'.  For broadcast work you preferably go for
| three laser readers as if they are slightly askew, low reflectivity,
| etc. they will still read, whereas single lasers have to be spot on, and
| with a very good reflection from the CD.  I don't think that there are
| any broadcast quality players that have single lasers these days.  I
| thought that all, but the very cheapest, CD players had three lasers
| these days.

This is something of a myth.  You see, Sony's mechanism uses only one read
laser.  The other two lasers are used for tracking.  The logic is, if
either of the two tracking lasers say that the read laser is not aligned
correctly, the entire lens assembly should be realigned.  The Philips
mechanism uses one laser.  The logic is, if the read laser is not aligned
correctly, the lens assembly should be realigned.  If any of the three
lasers in the Sony mechanism become incorrectly focused, the whole thing
fails.  The Philips mechanism cannot not suffer from this type of failure.
A bonus side effect, the Philips mechanism is more resistant to skipping
than Sony's.

And contrary to your belief, it is the cheapest CD players that have three
lasers, because Sony licenses its mechanism for significantly less than
Philips.

[...]
| Where was it overheating?  From the spinning of the CD, the motor, or
| the electronics?

The over-charged write laser.
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Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #383

1999-10-12 Thread J. Coon


Geoffrey Goode wrote:
  In message , Magic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 Geoffrey Goode wrote:
 
  For non UK subscribers the dog licence was withdrawn in the UK several
  years ago.
 
 
 MONTY PYTHON
 
 'ello... I'd like to buy a fish license please.

You forgot the H in hello! 

Reminds me of the gal whose skirt blew up on a windy day.  A passer bye
said to her, "A bit airy isn't it?"  To which she acted insulted and
replied "Well, what did you expect? Feathers?"  

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Re: MD: Found a CD that cannot be digitally recorded on MD

1999-10-12 Thread Kade Hansson


SSR asked:

| What would happen if the record level on the masters from which the CDs
| were pressed was set higher than the allowed threshold (ie, 'OVER' on my
| 702's display) for CD media?

At 01:05 PM 10/12/99 -0500, DWT wrote:

Then the CD would have already been spoiled by clipping in the process of
making a digital master for the CD, those passages would sound clipped when
you listen to the CD, and a digital copy to MD at unity gain would faithfully
preserve the sound as already clipped.  As I've learned here, all digital
media are incapable of representing amplitudes over 0 dB, and digital
recordings must be scaled accordingly.

Not necessarily. I have a few CDs which light OVER on digital record and
then when played back. I suspect OVER just means the sample was +16383 or
-16384. No audible clipping is heard.

+16383/-16384 is not an invalid sample in itself. But obviously, unless the
recording has been digitally scaled, it is likely that this sample value
would mean clipping.

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