MD: mp3 to MD - DIY

2001-02-22 Thread tim m


hi.
just subscribed to the list mainly for a tech 'problem' that i have.
i have a 1024 Player SBLive! and i would like to record my mp3s on  to my
Sony MZ-R37 portable.
to do this digitally(optical cable) i have to spend   $85 for Creative's
Digital I/O Board,or 40-50$ for Hoontech's daughter card.(and all i want is
one optical out).
However i recently found out that you can have optical out only by using a
DIY "circuit-module' .As i saw at a relevant site this means converting the
coax signals to TTL signals and subsequently convert the TTL signals to
fiber optic using a TOSLINK transmitter.
The fact is that i know shit about building even the simplest circuit,so i'd
like to ask if there's anyone out there who sells this stuff readymade.If
so,please contact me i'd be very interested.
Thanx
tim


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Re: MD: mp3 to MD - DIY

2001-02-22 Thread John Small


On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:51:48 +0200, "tim m" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

just subscribed to the list mainly for a tech 'problem' that i have.
i have a 1024 Player SBLive! and i would like to record my mp3s on  to my
Sony MZ-R37 portable.
to do this digitally(optical cable) i have to spend   $85 for Creative's
Digital I/O Board,or 40-50$ for Hoontech's daughter card.(and all i want is
one optical out).

I think the most elegant soln is not to record from the soundcard or even a
digital out esp since it's real time recording to MD.  Rather buy an inexpensive
cd-rw and copy the mp3's to a cd-rw disk, which you can use over and over.  Take
the disk to your hifi system and play it, recording to MD from their (either
portable or a deck).  Otherwise hiccups from your PC, as you do other things,
will barf up the mp3 to MD transfer.

This is what I do.

-jts Arlington, TX
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread John Small


On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack
from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly
into the md player.

There is no separate line out on the E900?

Thanks.

-jts
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Burger



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I'm not sure I understand.  The remote plug goes into the unit, and your
headphone plug should plug into the remote plug.

How, again, is this a problem?

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote:


 Hi,

 I've recently purchased a sony e-900 md player. And I'm plannng to
 purchase a headroom airhead, and etymotic er4s. But, my e-900 has got
 only 1 headphone out. When I want to use my airhead, I will have to plug
 it in to the md player. Normally this means that I will not be able to
 use my remote because the 'remote plug' and the headphone jack are put
 in 1 plug. My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack
 from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly
 into the md player.

 Kind regards,

 Niels Schenk

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Niels Schenk



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I don't think so, at least the md community pages don't specify it, I haven't
actually recieved it yet, so I can't see it myself.

Niels

John Small wrote:

 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack
 from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly
 into the md player.

 There is no separate line out on the E900?

 Thanks.

 -jts
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Burger



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I don't think line out would help...unless his headphones have a
separately powered amplifier.

Of course, I'm working on the assumption that the "airhead" is some sort
of headphone set.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, John Small wrote:


 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack
 from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly
 into the md player.

 There is no separate line out on the E900?

 Thanks.

 -jts
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Niels Schenk



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The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the
airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote.

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 I'm not sure I understand.  The remote plug goes into the unit, and your
 headphone plug should plug into the remote plug.

 How, again, is this a problem?


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Niels Schenk



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Nope, I verified that the e900 hasn't got line out.

Niels

John Small wrote:

 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:03 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack
 from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly
 into the md player.

 There is no separate line out on the E900?

 Thanks.

 -jts
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Re: MD: mp3 to MD - DIY

2001-02-22 Thread J. Coon



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I have the hoontech unit and it works fine.

tim m wrote:
 
 hi.
 just subscribed to the list mainly for a tech 'problem' that i have.
 i have a 1024 Player SBLive! and i would like to record my mp3s on  to my
 Sony MZ-R37 portable.
 to do this digitally(optical cable) i have to spend   $85 for Creative's
 Digital I/O Board,or 40-50$ for Hoontech's daughter card.(and all i want is
 one optical out).
 However i recently found out that you can have optical out only by using a
 DIY "circuit-module' .As i saw at a relevant site this means converting the
 coax signals to TTL signals and subsequently convert the TTL signals to
 fiber optic using a TOSLINK transmitter.
 The fact is that i know shit about building even the simplest circuit,so i'd
 like to ask if there's anyone out there who sells this stuff readymade.If
 so,please contact me i'd be very interested.
 Thanx
 tim
 
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MD: Midiman DIO $89 US

2001-02-22 Thread J. Coon


FWIW, Mars is having a sale on MIDIMAN MIO 2448 HD Digital I/O card 
$99.99 with a $10 instant rebate.  The flier shows a website of
www.marsmusic.com


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Burger


That's extremely odd.

Does the remote work when you use a regular headphone?

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote:

 The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the
 airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote.

 Mike Burger wrote:

  I'm not sure I understand.  The remote plug goes into the unit, and your
  headphone plug should plug into the remote plug.
 
  How, again, is this a problem?

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Dan Scellen


From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's
that it doesn't work for his needs.  If he plugs in the airhead after the
remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and
the remote.  He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so
he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead.
Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use.  This way, he can
tuck away the airhead along with the E900.
I, however, have no solution for you.

Dan

 That's extremely odd.

 Does the remote work when you use a regular headphone?

 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote:

  The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the
  airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote.
 
  Mike Burger wrote:
 
   I'm not sure I understand.  The remote plug goes into the unit, and
your
   headphone plug should plug into the remote plug.
  
   How, again, is this a problem?


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Niels Schenk



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Dan, that's exactly what I mean!
Too bad you don't have a solution for it.

Niels

Dan Scellen wrote:

 From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's
 that it doesn't work for his needs.  If he plugs in the airhead after the
 remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and
 the remote.  He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so
 he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead.
 Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use.  This way, he can
 tuck away the airhead along with the E900.
 I, however, have no solution for you.

 Dan

  That's extremely odd.
 
  Does the remote work when you use a regular headphone?
 
  On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote:
 
   The problem is, that when I plug the headphone plug (which goes to the
   airhead) into the remote, I will not be able to use the remote.
  
   Mike Burger wrote:
  
I'm not sure I understand.  The remote plug goes into the unit, and
 your
headphone plug should plug into the remote plug.
   
How, again, is this a problem?

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread PrinceGaz


I guess there are two questions which need to be answered...

1) Electrical- does the remote's circuitry use any of the headphone plug
contacts, most likely, does it use the common ground contact in addition
to those on the remote connector part.  If so then youre scuppered, but
the two parts of the plug may be electrically seperate, ie the remote may
have its own ground contact.

2) Mechanical- is the remote contact strong enough to withstand normal
use on the move without the 3.5mm plug to provide a sort of anchor.

As the only remote I have used is the ancient R3 one (a simple resistor
network without backlit displays and the like), I'm afraid I can't
answer either question myself.  Oh well, best of luck, someone is sure
to come up with something here.

PrinceGaz.



 From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's
 that it doesn't work for his needs.  If he plugs in the airhead after the
 remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and
 the remote.  He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so
 he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead.
 Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use.  This way, he can
 tuck away the airhead along with the E900.
 I, however, have no solution for you.
 Dan


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Dan Frakes


John Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack
from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly
into the md player.

There is no separate line out on the E900?

Thanks.

Nope, and that's my only complaint about the E900. In fact, I don't 
believe any of the new Sony *players* has a line-out.

That means that the Airhead, which should be used with a line-out, will 
have to be used with the headphone jack instead. It can be done, but 
sound quality suffers.

To answer the original question, if you want to use the remote, you would 
plug the Airhead's line into the headphone jack on the remote instead of 
on the main unit.
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread John Small


On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:07:26 +0100, Niels Schenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nope, I verified that the e900 hasn't got line out.

Thanks ... that's important information as I too use an Airhead amp and much
prefer the line out rather than the headphone connection.

I guess when I buy a portable LP device it will be a player/recorder.

Thanks again.

-jts Arlington, TX
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread John Small


On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:10 -0500 (EST), Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I don't think line out would help...unless his headphones have a
separately powered amplifier.

Of course, I'm working on the assumption that the "airhead" is some sort
of headphone set.

The Airhead is indeed a powered headphone amp.

-jts Arlington, TX
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Burger



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You know...there is a solution.
Radio shack, Circuit City, Best Buy, etc...all have mini-stereo extension
cables...you can get a short one (or even make one, if you want to buy
connectors and have the temerity to do so), plug the mail end into your
remote, and the headphone plug into the female end on the other end.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Niels Schenk wrote:

 Dan, that's exactly what I mean!
 Too bad you don't have a solution for it.

 Niels

 Dan Scellen wrote:

  From what I understand, the problem isn't that it doesn't function, it's
  that it doesn't work for his needs.  If he plugs in the airhead after the
  remote, then there is a big object in the line between the headphones and
  the remote.  He wants to "chop off" the headphone connector of the remote so
  he can plug the airhead into that, and his headphones into the airhead.
  Then he has the remote on a separate wire, easy to use.  This way, he can
  tuck away the airhead along with the E900.
  I, however, have no solution for you.

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Mike Burger



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Thanks for the clarification.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, John Small wrote:


 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:10 -0500 (EST), Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I don't think line out would help...unless his headphones have a
 separately powered amplifier.
 
 Of course, I'm working on the assumption that the "airhead" is some sort
 of headphone set.

 The Airhead is indeed a powered headphone amp.

 -jts Arlington, TX
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread niels



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Thanks for the reply Francisco (althought this REALLY sucks).

Niels

 
 The Airhead doesn't sound half bad when connected to the headphone terminal
 on the remote control.
 
 But it sounds a lot better when you switch to "Line Out".
 
 But...
 
 Whenever you insert your remote control, the unit switches to Headphone Out
 automatically. And there is no way to switch to Line Out. So, don't chop the
 connector. It will be useless anyway.
 
 Solution? Not to use the remote control. I had to get used to it =(
 
 Francisco.
 


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Francisco J. Huerta


The Airhead doesn't sound half bad when connected to the headphone terminal
on the remote control.

But it sounds a lot better when you switch to "Line Out".

But...

Whenever you insert your remote control, the unit switches to Headphone Out
automatically. And there is no way to switch to Line Out. So, don't chop the
connector. It will be useless anyway.

Solution? Not to use the remote control. I had to get used to it =(

Francisco.

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had
a separate line-out. 

Second, there are Y-adaptors for 3.5mm stereo connections.  I have several
among my tangle of connectors, and here in the US they're easily found at
Radio Shack or even Best Buy and Circuit City, so I'd expect Niels to find
one without difficulty in the Netherlands.

Whether the output from the E900 would behhave as a headphone-out or a line-
out if you use a Y-adaptor and put the remote on one side and these head-
phones on the other I cannot guess, but it would certainly solve the problem
of having the remote's weight in the middle of the cord from the headphones
to the unit.

I must be missing something here; the Y-adaptor is such an obvious solution,
yet nobody else has suggested it yet.  Is there some reason it wouldn't help?

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Re: MD: mp3 to MD - DIY

2001-02-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


John advised Tim,

| I think the most elegant soln is not to record from the soundcard or even a
| digital out esp since it's real time recording to MD.  Rather buy an
| inexpensive cd-rw and copy the mp3's to a cd-rw disk, which you can use
| over and over.  Take the disk to your hifi system and play it, recording to
| MD from their (either portable or a deck).  Otherwise hiccups from your PC,
| as you do other things, will barf up the mp3 to MD transfer.
| 
| This is what I do.

It's also what I do, lacking digital ports on my soundcard.  However, it
requires a CD player (where John mentioned the "hifi system") that can read
CDRWs reliably.

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread niels


The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I will not be 
able
to put my remote control connector in the md player, because it has a headphone jack
connected to it. 
My question was, if it was possible to take the headphone jack from the remote 
connector
(which goes into the md unit). so I will be able to put the miniplug of my airhead
amplifier into the md unit.

In this case, a Y adaptor would be useless.


Niels

 
 First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had
 a separate line-out. 
 
 Second, there are Y-adaptors for 3.5mm stereo connections.  I have several
 among my tangle of connectors, and here in the US they're easily found at
 Radio Shack or even Best Buy and Circuit City, so I'd expect Niels to find
 one without difficulty in the Netherlands.
 
 Whether the output from the E900 would behhave as a headphone-out or a line-
 out if you use a Y-adaptor and put the remote on one side and these head-
 phones on the other I cannot guess, but it would certainly solve the problem
 of having the remote's weight in the middle of the cord from the headphones
 to the unit.
 
 I must be missing something here; the Y-adaptor is such an obvious solution,
 yet nobody else has suggested it yet.  Is there some reason it wouldn't help?
 
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


Niels explained,

| The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I
| will not be able to put my remote control connector in the md player,
| because it has a headphone jack connected to it.

I don't follow.  If the line/headphone output jack on the unit and the
headphone port on the remote are both 3.5mm stereo minijacks, why would a
Y-connector not work?  How does the headphone jack on the remote prevent
use of a Y-adaptor?

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread niels



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I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to connect my 
remote
to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my remote, only on the unit itself. 
My
remote connector is combined with a headphone jack, which goes to the remote as well. I
want to remove the headphone jack from the remote connector, so I can plug a seperate
minijack into my unit. 
So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port.

 
 Niels explained,
 
 | The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I
 | will not be able to put my remote control connector in the md player,
 | because it has a headphone jack connected to it.
 
 I don't follow.  If the line/headphone output jack on the unit and the
 headphone port on the remote are both 3.5mm stereo minijacks, why would a
 Y-connector not work?  How does the headphone jack on the remote prevent
 use of a Y-adaptor?
 
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Dave Hooper


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Dave Hooper


Ah - I get it ... but why not just plug your headphone jack into the jack
socket in the remote instead of the jack socket on the unit?

Anyway - if you wanted to do this, you would need some kind of extension
adapter for the signal plugs on the remote. You could make your own but as
far as I'm aware nobody produces these commercially.

You may find, however, that whenever the remote is plugged in, the output of
the unit switches from line-out to headphone-out.  This would be very
unfortunate.  So, even if you did "saw off" the miniplug from the remote,
the unit would still detect the remote's presence from the other pins.
That's what I think might happen...

D


 I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to
connect my remote
 to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my remote, only on the
unit itself. My
 remote connector is combined with a headphone jack, which goes to the
remote as well. I
 want to remove the headphone jack from the remote connector, so I can plug
a seperate
 minijack into my unit.
 So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port.


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Dan Scellen


It's strange that people are having such a hard time understanding his
question. All I can think of Niels is that you make an extension like Dave
said.  Otherwise, I don't think it's possible.

Dan

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread PrinceGaz


Strange indeed!

Basically, the remote connector has two parts, the 3.5mm plug and the remote
contacts.  The only place the remote contacts can go is into the E900 directly
and the plug takes up the 3.5mm socket on the E900.  He does *not* want to
plug the airhead into the end of the remote (kinda impractical arrangement)
so he wants to seperate the remote contacts and the 3.5mm plug on the remote
control.  A Y-Adapter is therefore useless.  An extension is useless.  The
question is:

Can the remote work without the 3.5mm plug part, and (as I suggested in a
earlier post) would it be strong enough to survive mobile use without the
3.5mm plug.

PrinceGaz.



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 question. All I can think of Niels is that you make an extension like Dave
 said.  Otherwise, I don't think it's possible.


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


Niels repeated,

| I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to
| connect my remote to the unit.  I will not use the headphone jack in my
| remote, only on the unit itself.

That's why I suggested inserting a Y-adaptor's plug into the unit's jack. 
Then you'll have the two jacks of the Y-adaptor available: one for the remote
and one for the headphone.  The headphone jack on the remote can be empty.

| So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port.

I still don't see why not; you've tried explaining twice, so let's forget it.

Dave Hooper wrote,

 Ah - I get it ... but why not just plug your headphone jack into the jack
 socket in the remote instead of the jack socket on the unit?

Niels has answered that previously (or actually someone else figured it out
and he confirmed that that was what he meant): he doesn't want the weight of
the remote in-line on the cording from the headphones to the unit.  I tried
to suggest that if he doesn't want them in series he can have them in paral-
lel, but that doesn't please him either.

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Michael Burger



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I'm failing to see how he could use both if he's not willing to use
an extension to go from the airhead to the 3.5mm hole on the remote.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:27:31 -, PrinceGaz wrote:


Strange indeed!

Basically, the remote connector has two parts, the 3.5mm plug and the remote
contacts.  The only place the remote contacts can go is into the E900 directly
and the plug takes up the 3.5mm socket on the E900.  He does *not* want to
plug the airhead into the end of the remote (kinda impractical arrangement)
so he wants to seperate the remote contacts and the 3.5mm plug on the remote
control.  A Y-Adapter is therefore useless.  An extension is useless.  The
question is:

Can the remote work without the 3.5mm plug part, and (as I suggested in a
earlier post) would it be strong enough to survive mobile use without the
3.5mm plug.

PrinceGaz.



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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread J. Coon


If it is like all the other Sony units I've had, you plug in the remote,
and the head phones unplug from the remote and you plug the new head
phones in where the Sony haed phones went.  One caveat though, the older
Sonys used a proprietary headphone jack so Ihad to get an adaptor from
MiniDisc Now.

Niels Schenk wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've recently purchased a sony e-900 md player. And I'm plannng to
 purchase a headroom airhead, and etymotic er4s. But, my e-900 has got
 only 1 headphone out. When I want to use my airhead, I will have to plug
 it in to the md player. Normally this means that I will not be able to
 use my remote because the 'remote plug' and the headphone jack are put
 in 1 plug. My question is if it's possible to chop my headphone jack
 from the remote plug, so that I can insert my airhead connector directly
 into the md player.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Niels Schenk
 
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Michael Burger


That won't work.  Aside from the 3.5mm plug (stem), the remote has a
number of other connectors on either side of the 3.5mm stem.  They
all go into the side of the unit and make contact at the same time
(I'm assuming that this is the case...it seems to be so on every MD
unit I've seen).

If, as I suspect, the 3.5mm stem on the remote is in the center of
the connection to the MD unit, I can not see any way at all that he
could connect the remote and the airhead unit to the headphone jack
in the unit.  It is also my understanding that the connection for the
airhead with the 3.5mm connector that comes with it is large, and
prevents proper use of the remote.

This is why I continue to suggest plugging the remote into the unit,
getting a short extension, plugging the male 3.5mm stem of the
extension into the 3.5mm hole on the remote, and plugging the 3.5mm
stem of the airhead into the 3.5mm hole in the extension cable.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:27:03 -0600 (CST), David W. Tamkin wrote:


Niels repeated,

| I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to
| connect my remote to the unit.  I will not use the headphone jack in my
| remote, only on the unit itself.

That's why I suggested inserting a Y-adaptor's plug into the unit's jack. 
Then you'll have the two jacks of the Y-adaptor available: one for the remote
and one for the headphone.  The headphone jack on the remote can be empty.

| So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port.

I still don't see why not; you've tried explaining twice, so let's forget it.

Dave Hooper wrote,

 Ah - I get it ... but why not just plug your headphone jack into the jack
 socket in the remote instead of the jack socket on the unit?

Niels has answered that previously (or actually someone else figured it out
and he confirmed that that was what he meant): he doesn't want the weight of
the remote in-line on the cording from the headphones to the unit.  I tried
to suggest that if he doesn't want them in series he can have them in paral-
lel, but that doesn't please him either.

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread J. Coon



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dah?

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 I want to connect a miniplug to my unit (not the remote). And I want to connect my 
remote
 to the unit. I will not use the headphone jack in my remote, only on the unit 
itself. My
 remote connector is combined with a headphone jack, which goes to the remote as 
well. I
 want to remove the headphone jack from the remote connector, so I can plug a seperate
 minijack into my unit.
 So a Y connector will not work, because I only need 1 headphone port.
 
 
  Niels explained,
 
  | The problem of the Y connector is, that when I put the y adaptor in it, I
  | will not be able to put my remote control connector in the md player,
  | because it has a headphone jack connected to it.
 
  I don't follow.  If the line/headphone output jack on the unit and the
  headphone port on the remote are both 3.5mm stereo minijacks, why would a
  Y-connector not work?  How does the headphone jack on the remote prevent
  use of a Y-adaptor?
 
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread dattier


Jim Coon wrote,

 If it is like all the other Sony units I've had, you plug in the remote,
 and the head phones unplug from the remote and you plug the new head
 phones in where the Sony haed phones went.  One caveat though, the older
 Sonys used a proprietary headphone jack so Ihad to get an adaptor from
 MiniDisc Now.

I am pretty sure that Sony gave up on the microplugs and microjacks between
the R37 and the R50.  There's no way they could have reverted to it on the
E900.  I bought the same adaptor directly from Sony.

Mike Burger explained -- and thank you very much:

| That won't work.  Aside from the 3.5mm plug (stem), the remote has a
| number of other connectors on either side of the 3.5mm stem.  They
| all go into the side of the unit and make contact at the same time

Oh, yes; inserting a Y-adaptor or an extension between the remote's cord and
the unit will prevent connecting those other leads, rendering the remote
useless.  I wish Niels had said that when I first asked.

So the choice is to use the remote in-line with headphones or to do without
the remote.  What kind of "chopping off" Niels had in mind, though, I still
don't see, unless he meant cutting out the cable that connects the remote to
the unit and attaching its plug hard to the remote, so that the remote and
the unit would move as one solid piece.  But then what good is it to have a
remote if it stays attached to the unit?  That defeats the very purpose got
it named a "remote control."  Unless the remote has functions that aren't on
the body, he might as well leave the remote off and plug the headphones into
the unit directly.

| It is also my understanding that the connection for the
| airhead with the 3.5mm connector that comes with it is large, and
| prevents proper use of the remote.

| This is why I continue to suggest plugging the remote into the unit,
| getting a short extension, plugging the male 3.5mm stem of the
| extension into the 3.5mm hole on the remote, and plugging the 3.5mm
| stem of the airhead into the 3.5mm hole in the extension cable.

Niels doesn't want the remote to dangle in series with the headphones. 
(That's the only part I seem to have understood right off.)

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Francisco J. Huerta


 Can the remote work without the 3.5mm plug part, and (as I suggested in a
 earlier post) would it be strong enough to survive mobile use without the
 3.5mm plug.

 PrinceGaz.


It can. But the unit will stay in Headphone mode, and this won't sound
nearly as good with an AirHead.

Francisco.

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread D. Frakes


"David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-
only MD unit has ever had a separate line-out. 

David (and Dave Hooper):

Both of you commented on a "headphone/line" jack.

Unfortunately, the new Sony playback-only units don't
have an auto-switch headphone/line jack. They are
headphone-ONLY.

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MD: adjusting levels on MZ-R90

2001-02-22 Thread Sh0rTy515


hey
im wonding if i have to pause the recording to adjust the levels or how 
do i do this??
all help is apriciated!
-WiLL HuLL
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Re: MD: Recording from SACD

2001-02-22 Thread Bob Willcox


On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 05:14:21PM -0500, las wrote:
 
 Bob Willcox wrote:
 
  You can record from a SACD in analog only.  The current crop of SACD
  players don't have digital output (when playing SACDs).  (May never,
  given the recording industries copyright fears.)  They would require a
  converter to convert the DSD data stream into PCM in order to record on
  a PCM device (such as MD).
 
 
 Or if DSD is really so superior to PCM, the recorders would have to be capable of
 "reading" DSD.  Assuming for the moment that DSD (which I have never heard, so I
 can't give an opinion about it's relative audio quality) is noticeably superior to
 PCM, it would not make sense to convert "down" to PCM.

Probably makes more sense than to convert it to analog only to convert
it back to PCM.  From what Sony claims, the conversion from DSD to PCM
is easy.  It's just that they don't provide that feature in their SACD
players.

Bob

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MD: Sony MZ -E900

2001-02-22 Thread yeyny


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Dan Scellen


I've never tried making diagrams with text before, but I'll try to show you
what Niels is thinking:
()
()  [][]
   |_|:::}---

this is what the remote plug looks like on my Aiwa.  It's not the same as my
sharp, but I can only assume that his E900 plug is similar to this one.  the
[][] part is the remote connection, and the other is the 3.5 mm connector.
His problem is this:
__
|   MD |---[Remote][AirHead Amp (big, heavy)][Headphones]
|  unit   |
-

This is the easiest set up, but it isn't very practical for use.  Can you
imagine clipping the remote to your shirt and having the headphone amp
dangle on the line?  It just won't work.  He probably wants to have his
airhead and md unit in his pocket, while the remote is usable.  His solution
was this:  Cut the plastic in the remote plug (1st diagram), to separate the
remote portion, and the 3.5mm connector.  Then, throw away the 3.5mm jack
(basically).  Now, his setup would look like this:
__
|   MD |--[Remote]
|  unit   |[AirHead Amp (big, heavy)][Headphones]
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So, as PrinceGaz said, the question is whether or not the remote needs the
3.5mm (probably not), and whether or not the remote connectors are strong
enough (probably).  Go for it Niels.

Dan


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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread J. Coon


The solution is obvious, but he doesn't want to use it.

I guess they don't call it an airhead for nothing.  :)


"David W. Tamkin" wrote:
 
 First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had
 a separate line-out.
 
 Second, there are Y-adaptors for 3.5mm stereo connections.  I have several
 among my tangle of connectors, and here in the US they're easily found at
 Radio Shack or even Best Buy and Circuit City, so I'd expect Niels to find
 one without difficulty in the Netherlands.
 
 Whether the output from the E900 would behhave as a headphone-out or a line-
 out if you use a Y-adaptor and put the remote on one side and these head-
 phones on the other I cannot guess, but it would certainly solve the problem
 of having the remote's weight in the middle of the cord from the headphones
 to the unit.
 
 I must be missing something here; the Y-adaptor is such an obvious solution,
 yet nobody else has suggested it yet.  Is there some reason it wouldn't help?
 
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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor


Hi David,

"David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 First, I'm pretty sure *no* Sony portable playback-only MD unit has ever had
 a separate line-out. 

Of course the MZ-2P, that wonderful exception to every rule, had
it. Headphone, line, *and* optical, all in one little breadbox. :-)

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RE: MD: mp3 to MD - DIY

2001-02-22 Thread Churchill, Guy


 I have the hoontech unit and it works fine.

I too have the Hoontech unit, but be warned it
outputs 48Khz ... so if your MD does not have
a bitrate converter (like my old MZR-3) it will
not record digitally.  (my MD decks are fine though)
(If anyone knows how to force it to do 44Khz I'd like
to hear from them).

Cheers   GC



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Re: MD: adjusting levels on MZ-R90

2001-02-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


Will Hull asked,

| im wonding if i have to pause the recording to adjust the levels or how
| do i do this??

On Sony portable recorders, you can adjust the manual gain level only during
record-pause.  Also, when you stop recording (say, to change discs), they
revert to automatic gain control and you have to reselect manual gain setting
from scratch.  Those are generally considered drawbacks for live recording.

How to get into manual recording and how to change the level are described in
the manual.  On my R3 one holds the REC slide to the right for two seconds to
switch between manual and automatic; in manual gain mode, during record-pause,
one changes the level with the FF and REW keys.  How similarly the R90 works
I cannot say.

Sharp portables do not offer automatic level control; the setting is always
manual, and you can change it without pausing.  That's also true of Sony
decks.

Aiwa portables do offer both automatic and manual level control; you have to
be in record-pause to switch between automatic and manual, but once you're in
manual you do *not* have to pause to adjust the level.  Also, it remembers
the choice between automatic and manual and the last manual level chosen when
you stop the unit, even if you change discs (well, maybe not if all power is
disconnected).

As to other manufacturers' portable recorders or non-Sony decks, I do not
know.

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Re: MD: chopping off headphone jack

2001-02-22 Thread Dan Scellen


J. coon wrote:

 
 The solution is obvious, but he doesn't want to use it.
 
 I guess they don't call it an airhead for nothing.  :)

Except that won't work...

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Re: MD: chopping off remote's headphone PLUG (not its jack)

2001-02-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


Dan Frakes wrote,

F Unfortunately, the new Sony playback-only units don't have an auto-switch
F headphone/line jack. They are headphone-ONLY.

Several people have posted that the same jack acts as a line-out under
certain circumstances.

Dan Scellen wrote (I've modified the diagram slightly; the tildes represent
the control signal connection from the remote body to the edge card; the
equal signs represent three-conductor coax and 3.5mm jacks and plugs),

S [Niels's] problem is this:
S __ __
S |   MD   |=|Re= |==AirHead Amp (big, heavy)==Headphones
S |  unit  |~|mote|
S -- --

And the headphones can't be used without the amplifier?  They sound totally
unsuited and *unintended* for portable use in the first place.  In that case
the best plan seems to be to use headphones that don't require a large, heavy
piece of additional equipment and leave the Airheads at home.

As Dan [Scellen] explains, Niels wants to have this instead:

 __
 |   MD   |===AirHead Amp (big, heavy)==Headphones
 |  unit  |~Remote
 --

So what he wants to cut off isn't the remote's headphone jack but rather its
3.5mm *plug*.  No wonder it didn't make sense.  He wants to leave only the
edge card connector on the remote so that it won't use or block the unit's
3.5mm output jack.  But he'll still have the big, heavy amplifier to contend
with.  Where is that supposed to dangle while he's out?

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Re: MD: chopping off remote's headphone PLUG (not its jack)

2001-02-22 Thread Niels Schenk



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David, that's exactly what I mean. As I am not a native american, I am not aware
of a difference between the words 'headphone jack' and 'headphone plug'. This is
probably the reason why there was some confusion on the list.

THank you all for the posts, I have come to conclusion that it's not possible
what I want.


Niels

"David W. Tamkin" wrote:

 Dan Frakes wrote,

 F Unfortunately, the new Sony playback-only units don't have an auto-switch
 F headphone/line jack. They are headphone-ONLY.

 Several people have posted that the same jack acts as a line-out under
 certain circumstances.

 Dan Scellen wrote (I've modified the diagram slightly; the tildes represent
 the control signal connection from the remote body to the edge card; the
 equal signs represent three-conductor coax and 3.5mm jacks and plugs),

 S [Niels's] problem is this:
 S __ __
 S |   MD   |=|Re= |==AirHead Amp (big, heavy)==Headphones
 S |  unit  |~|mote|
 S -- --

 And the headphones can't be used without the amplifier?  They sound totally
 unsuited and *unintended* for portable use in the first place.  In that case
 the best plan seems to be to use headphones that don't require a large, heavy
 piece of additional equipment and leave the Airheads at home.

 As Dan [Scellen] explains, Niels wants to have this instead:

  __
  |   MD   |===AirHead Amp (big, heavy)==Headphones
  |  unit  |~Remote
  --

 So what he wants to cut off isn't the remote's headphone jack but rather its
 3.5mm *plug*.  No wonder it didn't make sense.  He wants to leave only the
 edge card connector on the remote so that it won't use or block the unit's
 3.5mm output jack.  But he'll still have the big, heavy amplifier to contend
 with.  Where is that supposed to dangle while he's out?

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