Re: MD: Serious contender for MD
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === i saw a hack site for hd replacement somewhere, it pretty much voids all warrenties if you do this, but if you drop it and ruine it, that's not a big deal. anyway seems like a waste to me still, i can purchase this, then buy a laptop hd, or i can buy a nice md recordable and about a gazillion blank md's (both of which i already have) anyway the price still is high on em, i cant record, and sound still sux. so to me it's not an option, i'd rather take an icepick to my eardrums than listen to another 128 mp3 with clicks every 1/2 second. ok, i just dont like mp3 encoding, if you wanna encode your music library, use the atrac codec that is out there or some loseless compression that is available. - Original Message - From: Shawn Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:44 AM Subject: Re: MD: Serious contender for MD Churchill, Guy wrote: Shawn Lin wrote: Laptop HD-based MP3 players are nothing new. Here's one that's rather popular with MP3'ers right now... http://www.nomadworld.com/welcome.asp The Nomads are 6Gb too ... but is this replaceable ? The Nomad is kinda large (more like a portable CD player) Do the Nomads have the ability to act as a portable HDD (for any file type?) I do like the ability to record WAV uncompressed at 48Khz .. Nice. Replaceable, yes. Not sure if this is easy or not, I didn't bother downloading instructions since I don't have one. The info on doing the upgrade is available here: http://www.nomadjukebox.net/ I have no idea if they can act as a portable HDD or not. I would think yes, but just guessing here. The bottom line is MD is getting swamped with all these other new technologies and unless they stay on the ball and start adding professional and consumer use requirements (like faster then real time transfers) I believe it will go the way of the dodo (or should I say the Tassie Tiger which there is a small amount of hearsay evidence that it may not be extinct just yet). How many others are starting to feel this way ? I completely agree. MD has already become stagnant. Sony needs to do something. Many companies have dropped MD completely, and I'm sure others will follow if sales don't improve soon. Funny part is, if Sony had been listening to it's early adopters (like the good subscribers to mdl) then they would have had the jump on all these new technologies and truly cemented MD's place in history like Vinyl, Compact Cassette and CD (now DVD) and not considered by the next generation to be just another DCC, DAT, LD, or BETA (all of which have their use, but in the general public's view are dead and buried formats). Very true, I have been suggesting better MP3 to MD integration from the beginning, well before the first portable MP3 player ever came out. PS: I recently came across some old video cassettes that I don't know the history of .. they are huge (50% larger then VHS and really thick) I've never seen a player that can play them ... anyone know something about these? I've only heard of 3/4 U-MATIC cassettes and something Sony had called El-Cassette. I don't remember if El-cassette was audio or video. Could it be one of these? Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: sec: unclassified: Serious contender for MD
You can directly correlate the abuse a portable to a laptop given to a soldier (ie. Bad). A personal laptop gets treated like eggs, also generally a laptop has enough mass around it to give slightly more protection. A MP3 portable doesn't benefit from this. Try running to a bus, jogging, mountain biking with a laptop and you'll get into trouble. Kev -Original Message- From: Churchill, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2001 14:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:RE: MD: sec: unclassified: Serious contender for MD Laptop HDD reliability and ability to deal with abuse (vibrations/knocks/temperature) seems to be a bit of a mystery to me. I'm sure we can all re-tell stories of HDD's dying regularly (had it's happen to me). But I've also had extreme good use from other field units. I work for Rally Australia's Technology Group, we have been using Laptops in the field for 5 years. I can't remember a single HDD failure ... these get abused and transported everywhere, interstate and overseas (China last time). And have coped with extreme amounts of dust, extremes of temperature, and vibrations whilst in use. Why new technology is unable to produce HDD's that last in these conditions is a question I can't answer. But I know you can stick an MD through the wash and it will still work .. try that with a HDD :) As part of my job I put rugged laptops out in the AU bush and in Army vehicles and I can tell you for a fact that a laptop HDD will NOT cope with the type of abuse a portable would contend with. Once the heads hit the platters it all over baby start again or if you're lucky a refomat may recover it. A HDD in a home deck is fantastic, but not on the road. You could use a nitrogen purged ruggedised version but no one will pay $2K for a MP3 portable. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Miracle it Died
Hi, You guys certainly have a point about the ease of MP3 transfer to CDR/RW compared to MD. But do remember how many computer illiterates there are out there. Most of the people in my work can't fill the laser printer with paper, much less download the latest LAME ripper, sort out a broadband internet connection and set up Nero to do a disk at once transfer. I don't think MD is dead here in the UK. Anyone who used to use cassette can easily deal with the real-time recording thing (it's also analogous with VCR recording). All the high street electrical stores are packed with portables, lifestyle systems and decks. Blanks are everywhere. Having said all that, it does seem childish and pathetic that a technology which uses random access MO disks can't use some sort of faster than real time PC integration. In this day and age! Imagine if yo could buy an internal IDE MD drive for £90, including drag and drop software, MP3-ATRAC codecs, a couple of those saucy gold blanks... Cheers Alan (Mostly happy with his R900.) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Miracle it Died
Using version 4 (either Sony or Sharp's) as a reference point, I think that the sound of an MD will be better than a Cassette and even better than vinyl that has been played several times. I've owned some pretty high end turntables and cartridges in my days, but even right out of the sleeve for the first time, there were clicks and pops on the record. Also anyone claiming that records sound better than a CD (or even an MD) had better define what they mean by the word better. They may sound better to that individual but there is on way that they can sound better using conventional terms. Hi Guys Just had to add a few cents worth here. I considered myself almost an audiophile long ago during vinyl's heyday. You had to find the right store to get a mastered disc if you wanted quality with no pops and such and they cost about 3 or 4 times as much as your Colombia house deals, LOL. You could even get them colored (sound familiar?) but not all colored lps were true masters, you again had to check the cover (the cover always said hifi master or something similar) and the price was always a dead giveaway. The commercial 3- 5.00 lp was the common standard and most of them were bad, You needed to shell out 15- 20.00 for a high end record! There were truly high quality vinyl albums available if one was willing to pay the price, just not everywhere and not every album that came along either. In any case I could always make a better cassette than you could buy by recording my vinyl to a high end blank with a high end deck. Of course none of this really compares to CD or MD except that in the early days of CD the quality vinyl DID SOUND better! The early CDs were not properly recorded or mastered and many of them lacked the bass and clarity of the original quality vinyl. They sounded very tinny and just did not sound like the original master at all! Hope this is enough definition for you. None of this is TRUE ANYMORE BUT it was for a short while (maybe the first 2 years or so of CD). Perhaps this is why you see so many CDs on the market that are re mastered as they sucked the first time around, LOL.. Some of my BEST sounding MDs are of my old vinyl collection (may they rest in Peace). I bought an MD deck long before a CDR deck so now I have copied all those MDs to CDR and the CDRs sound as good as most of the re mastered CDs of the same title. So, vinyl to MD to CDR and sound this good? Who cares about compression when you can't hear it, WE DONT WORRY BOUT NO STINKIN COMPRESSION!!! LOL!! Thats my buck and a quarter. Les www.musicmixers.com/mall Music Mixers DJ Lighting and Audio Mall - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Miracle it Died.
Las wrote... It's been very quiet around here lately, so either this is going to be one more boring post or stir some controversy. I suppose that MD could stand for Miracle that it Died. Hmmm, as I never get tired of repeating (being a smug Brit), MD is *huge* more-or-less everywhere other than the US. MD hasn't died, and neither is it about to. Its just that unlike the rest of the world, Americans (with a few enlightened exceptions) seem unable to grasp a good thing when they see it. As I've said before, in the UK I don't know *anyone* who owns an MP3 player, and I've only ever actually seen *one person* using one. In contrast MD players are absolutely everywhere. I think a somewhat less US-centric view needs to be taken when looking at the market. Robin. Robin Landy Manchester University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 07970 253609 --- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Serious contender for MD
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Shawn Lin wrote: Hi, PS: I recently came across some old video cassettes that I don't know the history of .. they are huge (50% larger then VHS and really thick) I've never seen a player that can play them ... anyone know something about these? I've only heard of 3/4 U-MATIC cassettes and something Sony had called El-Cassette. I don't remember if El-cassette was audio or video. Could it be one of these? Betacam? *---(*)---**-- Francisco J. Montilla - System Network admin - Seville - Spain pacopepeATinsflug.org - irc: pukka - Coordinador INSFLUG (insflug.org) DoQmail: qmail en castellano es.qmail.org - OpenSlink Project: slink.org - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: audio recorders and the public...
What audio recorder technology is the general public buying these days? I think cassette is still the dominant recordable format. The thing I notice is that, since personal and in-dash CD players have become widely available and inexpensive, many of those who would have, in the past, used cassette in these applications are using CD. Most don't own a CD recorder; they rely totally on pre-recorded CDs. I think that the largest segment of users for just about audio player technology never (or seldom) records; they rely on pre-recorded. So I think that relative scarcity of pre-recorded MDs is the biggest problem, in terms of MD becoming a mainstream format. Second is lack of promotion. While I would like to see better integration between MD and PC, I do not believe it would make any difference to the average consumer. (I personally belive that the MD's current level of computer integration at best expliots Windows real-time weaknesses why completely ignoring the unique strengths of MD, but makes little difference to the masses.) I have been around long enough to remember that the CD format was sort of a slow starter. The early CD players were expensive (my first portable was $250 and had a lead-acid battery that lasted 3-4 hours per charge). And discs we scare in the early '80s. But eventually, by the end of the '80s and the early '90s, the CD had virtually wiped out the LP and made a big dent in pre-recorded cassette sales. Beside the fact that it offered higher audio quality, the CD had 2 important advantages: 1) Like the cassette and unlike the LP, it was a format that lent itself to portable and in-car players, giving the record companies a much larger base of buyers. 2) Like the LP and unlike the cassette, CD was easy and inexpensive to duplicate, meaning higher profit for the recording companies. MD was designed to offer both of these advantages and also to offer a third important advantage: 3) Unlike the LP and the CD, the MD format is rugged (scratch resistant). This third advantage, I believe, is what is most important to the masses. The second advantage (easy duplication) may become less important as the industry model moves from distribution on media to in-home delivery via internet, cable, satellite, or whatever mediuim they eventually pick. MD's other virtues may be allowed to shine in this application, but we a still a ways from seeing the infrastructure for widespread in-home, on-demand delivery. The fact that MD today offers recordability, editability and holds the future possibility of a good computer interface are just icing on the cake... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: md-l-digest V3 #18
I really don't think any one cares about compression anymore. It used Depends on the kind of compression. On my home MD unit, it uses Pioneer ASRAC (which is basically a modified version of Sony version 4 i believe) and it sounds excellent. Compressed/lossy areas are always those that are out of the range of human hearing--I cannot tell any difference in fidelity. MP3, on the other hand, sounds horrific a lot of the time. Depends on compression level, but I can't listen to most MP3's unless they are at least 160kps, preffable 192kps. Perhaps it is the encoding software or codecs used, but a lot of MP3 files sound tinny, or lose their dynamic range, it don't know what it is. But I can tell the difference between that an pure .WAV file with no compression. As far as I can tell, however, vinyl, cassette, and even MD are virtually all dead. I don't know anyone close to my age that listens to I know of quite a few people on the net that use MD, but no one else in real life. I certainly hope it's not dead---should I start stocking up on blanks? Do we know if manufacturers plan on halting production any time soon? stayed the same. MDLP was a step in the right direction, but it's STILL realtime recording, STILL inconvenient as an MP3 playback device (when compared to alternatives). Absolutely. We need to see portable MD units with a USB line-in for FAST digital MP3 copying. Exactly like you said, with a coded for conversion from MP3 to ATRAC. Also, an SP/DIF or Toslink digital output (a feature you can only find on home MD decks right now.) Unfortunatly, I don't think this is gonna happen due to SCMS. :-( - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-E900
yes i do - cool looking (the pic's dont do the colour of the blue model any justice), small, mdlp, good battery life, personnel disc memory, 64 combi sound eq only cons are price - but look on internet - u get it 4 £190 ish - some retailers also have free delivery 4 more info goto: http://www.minidisc.org/brian_youn/sony_mzr900.html just buy it -=d9=- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:46 PM Subject: MD: MZ-E900 oh yeah, i forgot to ask is this a good player, and does anyone recommend it - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Serious contender for MD
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:26:35AM +0800, Churchill, Guy wrote: The Neo 25 http://ssiamerica.com/products/neo25/ First serious contender for MD. Battery life could be better. No editing features but still an impressive list of goodies. battery life coud be better is an understatement, four hours wouldn't last me a day sometimes. the feature set is ok, but w/ out editing options thats a huge minus, like the equalizer though. it looks a little big though, i love my tiny MZ-R700(sony), w/ the arm strap i forget its there untill the music stops, i can run with it on(how would the harddrive take to 40-60 minutes of jogging?) the large size of the hd's is nice and helps make up for the physical size(since for that much music i would have to carry around a few disc's for the MD) and the playlist option helps make up for the lack of editing. that all said and done, its still MP3 and i'm not a fan of the format. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Serious contender for MD
With a firmware update, nomads behave just like large cumbersome hardrives that need a proprietary application to organize files. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Churchill, Guy Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: MD: Serious contender for MD Shawn Lin wrote: Laptop HD-based MP3 players are nothing new. Here's one that's rather popular with MP3'ers right now... http://www.nomadworld.com/welcome.asp The Nomads are 6Gb too ... but is this replaceable ? The Nomad is kinda large (more like a portable CD player) Do the Nomads have the ability to act as a portable HDD (for any file type?) I do like the ability to record WAV uncompressed at 48Khz .. Nice. The bottom line is MD is getting swamped with all these other new technologies and unless they stay on the ball and start adding professional and consumer use requirements (like faster then real time transfers) I believe it will go the way of the dodo (or should I say the Tassie Tiger which there is a small amount of hearsay evidence that it may not be extinct just yet). How many others are starting to feel this way ? Funny part is, if Sony had been listening to it's early adopters (like the good subscribers to mdl) then they would have had the jump on all these new technologies and truly cemented MD's place in history like Vinyl, Compact Cassette and CD (now DVD) and not considered by the next generation to be just another DCC, DAT, LD, or BETA (all of which have their use, but in the general public's view are dead and buried formats). Cheers GC PS: I recently came across some old video cassettes that I don't know the history of .. they are huge (50% larger then VHS and really thick) I've never seen a player that can play them ... anyone know something about these? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: audio recorders and the public...
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Timothy Stockman wrote: a mainstream format. Second is lack of promotion. While I would like to see better integration between MD and PC, I do not believe it would make any difference to the average consumer. Can anyone explain why the MD hasn't been developed and promoted as a very general data format? I would have thought it could simultaneously rival recordable CD (and beat others) for direct audio; plus e.g. vs zip disk for data transfer; and not least as a MP3 holder, too. All with the same disk and equipment, and computer linkable - this would surely attract the average consumer... Edwin - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sharp MD-MT90 + some taping thoughts
Have anyone tried MD-MT90? I wish it had MDLP. Would have been great for concert taping (mdiscing?)... I think a great concert taping recorder should have minimum features. Most Sharp cheaper Sharp models are like that. MT15/20, for example. Great battery life (and inexpensive battery format), adjustable recording level (without going through all the menus of new Sony recorders), relatively cheap (loosing/breaking $300+ recorder in the crowd would be more painful), etc. It would have been even better if it was flatter and lighter (SR60/MT90?). Smaller screen would be ok (to keep the price down). It would have been even better if it had some sort of simplistic backlighting on that screen (the kind that cheapest watches have would do just fine to keep the price down). No remote (to keep the price down) or a remote with a little screen (w/ backlight -- again, following the idea of a cheap watch). No need for AGC. Should defenetelly have mic-in and line-in. A recording indicator (the red one) on Sony MZ-R30 was a great idea too. And, I guess, at this point MDLP is a must. How could they even release MT90 without MDLP? Did I miss anything? BTW, did anyone tape/plan to tape Mark Knopfler? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: audio recorders and the public...
they used to have a data minidisc, but it took different equipment and different discs(go figure),. it was scsi only, and slow as malases(sp?) but if they redid some stuff(usb link like the PC line of sonys recordables) that would rule. marc On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 07:51:49PM +0100, Edwin Carter wrote: Can anyone explain why the MD hasn't been developed and promoted as a very general data format? I would have thought it could simultaneously rival recordable CD (and beat others) for direct audio; plus e.g. vs zip disk for data transfer; and not least as a MP3 holder, too. All with the same disk and equipment, and computer linkable - this would surely attract the average consumer... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: CD and MP3 still doesn't have the features I like in MD
You know, I think Robin has a point here. I've seen MP3 players in the stores, but I haven't seen people with them. Also, I *have* seen people with MD portables, and car units. And for the first time, I get the impression that the public (here in Canada anyway) is finally recognizing the format. And they overwhelming like it when they learn about it. Education remains a problem however...the other day at Best Buy (in Detroit Michigan) a home electronics employee told me matter-of-factly that Sony was no longer making MD units...doh! p.s. My computer has a CD-RW and I honestly say that I avoid using it. Talk about jumping through hoops to make a damn CD. And CD's poor editing abilities and awkward size (compared to MD) just leave me shaking my head. Too bad we didn't go directly from vinyl to MD twenty years ago. Hmmm, as I never get tired of repeating (being a smug Brit), MD is *huge* more-or-less everywhere other than the US. MD hasn't died, and neither is it about to. Its just that unlike the rest of the world, Americans (with a few enlightened exceptions) seem unable to grasp a good thing when they see it. As I've said before, in the UK I don't know *anyone* who owns an MP3 player, and I've only ever actually seen *one person* using one. In contrast MD players are absolutely everywhere. I think a somewhat less US-centric view needs to be taken when looking at the market. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: CD and MP3 still doesn't have the features I like in MD
Are you from Windsor Ontario? Small world isn't it. Nathan White [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tunes DJ Service Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: CD and MP3 still doesn't have the features I like in MD You know, I think Robin has a point here. I've seen MP3 players in the stores, but I haven't seen people with them. Also, I *have* seen people with MD portables, and car units. And for the first time, I get the impression that the public (here in Canada anyway) is finally recognizing the format. And they overwhelming like it when they learn about it. Education remains a problem however...the other day at Best Buy (in Detroit Michigan) a home electronics employee told me matter-of-factly that Sony was no longer making MD units...doh! p.s. My computer has a CD-RW and I honestly say that I avoid using it. Talk about jumping through hoops to make a damn CD. And CD's poor editing abilities and awkward size (compared to MD) just leave me shaking my head. Too bad we didn't go directly from vinyl to MD twenty years ago. Hmmm, as I never get tired of repeating (being a smug Brit), MD is *huge* more-or-less everywhere other than the US. MD hasn't died, and neither is it about to. Its just that unlike the rest of the world, Americans (with a few enlightened exceptions) seem unable to grasp a good thing when they see it. As I've said before, in the UK I don't know *anyone* who owns an MP3 player, and I've only ever actually seen *one person* using one. In contrast MD players are absolutely everywhere. I think a somewhat less US-centric view needs to be taken when looking at the market. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: CD and MP3 still doesn't have the features I like in MD
Nathan White wrote: Are you from Windsor Ontario? Small world isn't it. Nathan White [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess it is. I am just north of you accross the river. (The narrows as it is called in French. At least that is what I am told.) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: sec: unclassified LP to MD
Gidday All With all this talk of Vinyl it's about time I copied my small collection of LPs to MD. What's the opinion on the best (and free :-)) software to reduce the clicks, pops and general noise? Many thanks Kev - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Miracle it Died
Alan Dowds wrote: You guys certainly have a point about the ease of MP3 transfer to CDR/RW compared to MD. But do remember how many computer illiterates there are out there. Most of the people in my work can't fill the laser printer with paper, much less download the latest LAME ripper, sort out a broadband internet connection and set up Nero to do a disk at once transfer. True, but are computer illiterates techno-savvy enough to want to buy MD equipment in the first place? I know many computer illiterates (usually parents of my friends, people in their 50's), and they stick to old audio media, like LP's and cassettes. They have enough trouble adapting to CD. Sometimes their kids try to get them into newer media, like CD's, but it's an uphill struggle. :) I can tell by what FEW ads for MD that I've seen, their primary market focus is people in their late teens and 20's. Most of these people are fairly computer literate. Everyone I know in my age group with a PC owns a CD-RW drive. Those who aren't computer literate, ask friends that are to burn CD's. I don't think MD is dead here in the UK. Anyone who used to use cassette can easily deal with the real-time recording thing (it's also analogous with VCR recording). All the high street electrical stores are packed with portables, lifestyle systems and decks. Blanks are everywhere. Yeah, it definitely sounds like MD is faring MUCH better in Europe and Asia. I haven't tried accessing any of the big electronics companies websites for Europe and Asia, but for the US market, I don't see any new car MD players from Clarion, Kenwood, or Pioneer. JVC seems to have dropped MD altogether, which is a shame, because the KD-MX3000 was quite a cool deck which I would have liked to see carry on. On the other hand, Aiwa, Kenwood, Clarion, and JVC all have new decks that will play MP3 CD-RW's. This seems to be the hot thing now. If I go to any of the large local electronics stores, the MD displays are nearly nonexistent. It was a different story back in 1996-98 when there was much more optimism for the format! Now MP3 players and standalone CD-R/RW recorders fill the shelves where MD equipment once stood proud. Having said all that, it does seem childish and pathetic that a technology which uses random access MO disks can't use some sort of faster than real time PC integration. In this day and age! Imagine if yo could buy an internal IDE MD drive for £90, including drag and drop software, MP3-ATRAC codecs, a couple of those saucy gold blanks... I honestly think this is all it would take to greatly increase marketshare in the US. Well, depending on price of course. Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Miracle it Died
snip Having said all that, it does seem childish and pathetic that a technology which uses random access MO disks can't use some sort of faster than real time PC integration. In this day and age! Imagine if yo could buy an internal IDE MD drive for £90, including drag and drop software, MP3-ATRAC codecs, a couple of those saucy gold blanks... I honestly think this is all it would take to greatly increase marketshare in the US. Well, depending on price of course. /snip I belive...such beast does exist...but not at that price...I'd love to hear from someone who owns this... http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MDS-LSA1.html its not internal but its firewire...so still sweet...check out the flash thing on that linki was drooling by the time I was done reading about it...Howard Chu from www.minidiscussion.com was the one who found it...or well at least from whom I learned about this... He also found this link... http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/614-sony-lissa-network-audio.html £343.00 is no where near £90 Oh man...I want this thingbut I my wallet aint that fat to afford such beast... --icantelu PS I just realised I can't write for beans...oh wellhopefully it will get the message through. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
