Re: MD: recording from computer or hi-fi ?

2001-08-22 Thread Deja Vu


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MD: Sony MXD-D5C and JB940

2001-08-22 Thread Edward Yee


Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for some advice on the Sony MXD-D5C and the Sony MDS-JB940.  I
picked up a D5C for a really good price, and that's why I'm considering
keeping it (I actually bought 2 of them...using one, other brand new in
box).  What really bugs me about the D5C is the lack of a digital output.
While comparing CD playback quality on the D5C to my other equipment, the
D5C definately doesn't even come close.  This is likely due to the D5C
using a Hybrid Pulse DAC, while my other equipment is fitted with 24-bit
Burr-Brown DACs (sort of an unfair comparison).  With this type of
performance on the CD side of things, I suspect that I'll get similar
results with the MD.  As such, that's why I'm interested in the JB940
since I can send everything digitally to an external DAC for decoding.

I'm pretty picky about my music, however I'm quite picky about money too,
haha!  Pretty much, it comes down to this: Is the performance of the JB940
worth the extra money spent over the D5C?  The 4x dubbing and CD changer
features of the D5C aren't all that important, although nice to have.
With that in mind, does anybody know of a reputable dealer selling the
JB940 at a good price (preferably in Canada, but I can always order from
thte US).  If I do decide on the JB940, is anybody interested in buying a
MXD-D5C brand new in box? :)

Ed
  


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RE: MD: which MD car deck to buy?

2001-08-22 Thread Steve Hill


I don't know if it is available in Canada but I really like my Blaupunkt
Dallas MD deck. (The US site shows the stateside equivalent my model - the
first link below - and the new, 'improved' version):

http://www.blaupunktusa.com/receivers/receivers_00_dallas.htm
http://www.blaupunktusa.com/receivers/receivers_01_neworleans.html

The reason I bought it was that my Sony unit was stolen and, of course, the
face-plate was in the glove box. This made me realise that a removable
face-plate is no deterrent to the scum that break in to cars. Blaupunkt
units have a smart card the size of a credit card, which slides into the
back of the hinged face-plate so it's easy to take with you and easy to see
that it's been removed. I will never buy a face-off unit again. Anyway,
compared to my Sony unit, I would say that sound quality through the
mediocre standard speakers in my car is similar for MD and better for the
radio. The other area where the Dallas wins is the user interface. It is
simple and uncluttered, using 8 soft keys for all the peripheral functions,
rather than the plethora of tiny buttons that you normally get, and a
simple, easy to read display, rather than the mobile disco that you usually
get. It is changer compatible, though whether they do a MD changer, I don't
know.

Regards,

S.
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Re: MD: MD-Ports

2001-08-22 Thread yugami



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i dunno, personally i don't think its fair to critisize something for working exactly 
as it should, outside of the packageing problems ;)

On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:26:44AM +0800, Churchill, Guy wrote:
 The main negative comments are the real time transfer
 issue, and not being able to select the output source.
 (meaning you can get Windoze bings and such as well as
 the music).  That and how hard it is to get out of the 
 packaging ! :)
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Re: MD: Grouping

2001-08-22 Thread yugami



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going extreamly off topic if this email is confidential should you really be sending 
it to a mailing list?

sorry, but these sigs annoy me to no end, considering they are not leagaly valid as 
has been proved in a few small cases that i can't quote off hand, and the shear length 
of them


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Re: MD: Grouping

2001-08-22 Thread Mike Lastucka



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going extreamly off topic if this email is confidential should you really 
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sorry, but these sigs annoy me to no end, considering they are not leagaly 
valid as has been proved in a few small cases that i can't quote off hand, 
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MD: Sharp MD-R3 go boom?

2001-08-22 Thread Bill Crawford


I've had my 'R3 for a little over two years, and until very recently it's
been
a real trouper.  Of course, everything dies...

As of now, it has some problems reading the occasional disc.  The real
problem, though, is that it displays 'TOC W ERROR' whenever actually
trying to do any sort of TOC change on an MD--according to the user's
manual, this indicates that it's a service-level problem.  Anybody got any
idea as to roughly what might be wrong--or, more importantly, how much
getting it repaired might cost?  I'm thinking it might be time to replace
it,
if it's too costly...

- Will

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Re: MD: Sharp MD-R3 go boom?

2001-08-22 Thread las


Bill Crawford wrote:

 I've had my 'R3 for a little over two years, and until very recently it's
 been
 a real trouper.  Of course, everything dies...

 As of now, it has some problems reading the occasional disc.  The real
 problem, though, is that it displays 'TOC W ERROR' whenever actually
 trying to do any sort of TOC change on an MD--according to the user's
 manual, this indicates that it's a service-level problem.  Anybody got any
 idea as to roughly what might be wrong--or, more importantly, how much
 getting it repaired might cost?  I'm thinking it might be time to replace
 it,
 if it's too costly...

It really doesn't pay to put any money into the R3.  It was released 6 years
ago and improvements in ATRAC have come along way since then.

If you don't want to wait to see what happens with Net MD, depending upon your
budget, for between $200 and $250 you can buy a Sony R700.  It is an MDLP
unit.  They just released the 909 which uses the most advanced DSP that Sony
offers in portables, Type R.  But I expect the price to be high for a while.

If you use your unit a lot and it is the only portable you have, waiting for
Net MD (which may never happen for all we know) isn't practical.  The R900 is
a nice unit and it's price may be dropping now that they have released the
909.

Larry

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Re: MD: recording from computer or hi-fi ?

2001-08-22 Thread Deja Vu


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Re: MD: MD-Ports

2001-08-22 Thread Rich


One solution I can suggest, which is probably something of a waste of time, is to burn 
all of the tracks to a CD then use a CD player with optical out to record 
synchronously.
I've never had a problem with my Sony 5 CD changer losing parts of songs or not 
marking tracks.

Of course, this is a very roundabout method, but it might be the only solution.

Alternatively, go analogue... :D

-Richard

Original message from: Tugrul

coming from ICQ. But this winamp plugin deserves USB audio only to Winamp
Thats great. Now I am
recording Kapsberger's Arie a Villanelle and DG2 marked the first track mark
well, but unfortunately trimmed the first second of the next track. If
someone could find a solution to this.

Regards,
Tugrul

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Re: MD: Sharp MD-R3 go boom?

2001-08-22 Thread Bill Crawford


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Subject: Re: MD: Sharp MD-R3 go boom?



 Bill Crawford wrote:

  I've had my 'R3 for a little over two years, and until very recently
it's
  been
  a real trouper.  Of course, everything dies...
 
  As of now, it has some problems reading the occasional disc.  The real
  problem, though, is that it displays 'TOC W ERROR' whenever actually
  trying to do any sort of TOC change on an MD--according to the user's
  manual, this indicates that it's a service-level problem.  Anybody got
any
  idea as to roughly what might be wrong--or, more importantly, how much
  getting it repaired might cost?  I'm thinking it might be time to
replace
  it,
  if it's too costly...

 It really doesn't pay to put any money into the R3.  It was released 6
years
 ago and improvements in ATRAC have come along way since then.

 If you don't want to wait to see what happens with Net MD, depending upon
your
 budget, for between $200 and $250 you can buy a Sony R700.  It is an MDLP
 unit.  They just released the 909 which uses the most advanced DSP that
Sony
 offers in portables, Type R.  But I expect the price to be high for a
while.

 If you use your unit a lot and it is the only portable you have, waiting
for
 Net MD (which may never happen for all we know) isn't practical.  The R900
is
 a nice unit and it's price may be dropping now that they have released the
 909.

Ah, yes, but the MD-R3 isn't a portable.  It's a 3CD/1MD deck.  If I do end
up having to replace it, I'll probably end up going with separate
components--
a carousel CD player and a JB940, if I can sell my spleen fast enough.  :)

- Will

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Re: MD: MD-Ports

2001-08-22 Thread Jen Abildsoe




Are you using the DG2 in discrete or continuous mode? I got the clipped tracks when 
recording in discrete mode but switching to continuous seemed to eliminate the 
problem. 

Jen

Hi Richard,

I cant tell how I'm thankful for giving us this tip. Musicmatch records all
windows sounds when switched to USB audio. The other day I had recorded
Telemann's Wassermusik, and while listening to it I heard all the knocks
coming from ICQ. But this winamp plugin deserves USB audio only to Winamp
while other windows sounds come from the soundcard. Thats great. Now I am
recording Kapsberger's Arie a Villanelle and DG2 marked the first track
mark
well, but unfortunately trimmed the first second of the next track. If
someone could find a solution to this.

Regards,
Tugrul



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re: MD: How can we find more info on Net MD? /Handling ATRAC like CD audio

2001-08-22 Thread macdef


Larry, I know these things (software ATRAC encoders) exist -- a friend of
mine had a Sony Music Stick about 6 years ago that encoded CDs into ATRAC
files and then transferred them to the Music Stick.

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Re: MD: Grouping

2001-08-22 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Wed, 22 Aug 2001
| sorry, but these sigs annoy me to no end, considering they are not
| leagaly valid as has been proved in a few small cases that i can't quote
| off hand, and the shear length of them

Never mind the fact that they are three times the length of the actual
message.

To answer the original question, I believe the grouping area is so that
you can create tracks that are actually supersets of tracks.  Playlists, in
other words.
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MD: Mini-disc recording

2001-08-22 Thread Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor


Hi Lee,

I'm cc'ing to the MD mailing list too.

Lee Sanderson writes:

What is the sound quality when recording at a high speed dubbing rate with a
home MD recorder?  Is the high speed dubbing also done in the MDLP mode(s)
and how good is that sound quality?

I assume you're talking about a CD/MD deck that will dub at up to 4X
realtime.

In all cases the resulting quality is determined by the MD recording
mode: SP, LP2 or LP4. High speed dubbing only affects sound quality in
the following respect: On the MXD-D5C and MXD-D40 the SP mode is ATRAC
4.5 when in high speed mode and Type-R ATRAC for realtime dubbing. The
difference between these two is likely to be nearly, if not entirely,
inaudible. (See http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MXD-D5C.html and
http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MXD-D40.html)

Rick

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Re: MD: Sharp MD-R3 go boom?

2001-08-22 Thread las


Bill Crawford wrote:

 Ah, yes, but the MD-R3 isn't a portable.  It's a 3CD/1MD deck.  If I do end
 up having to replace it, I'll probably end up going with separate
 components--
 a carousel CD player and a JB940, if I can sell my spleen fast enough.  :)

Sorry, I thought that you were referring to the Sony MD-R3.  Can't believe that
Sharp would use the same name as Sony.  What were they thinking?

Unless you already have a DVD player, there is an Apex carousel that can also
play MP3 files, burned on a CDR or CDRW.  The price isn't that high either
(especially considering it will play, audio CDs, MP3 CDs, DVDs and VCDs).

The original Apex sometimes had a sync problem with the picture and sound (I
have one of those), but I'm sure that they corrected the problem by now.  I
don't know if you have a portable also, but if I had to choose between having
either a portable or MD deck, I'd choose the portable.  They are so much more
versatile and can be plugged into your stereo system.

If you have a newer AV receiver that has digital audio inputs, that's a
different story.  For some reason after the introduction of the Sony MZ-1
original MD portable, they stopped putting digital outputs on  portable MD
units.  You can buy a portable CD player with a digital output, so I don't
understand the reasoning.

Larry

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Re: MD: Sony MiniDisc advert circa 1996

2001-08-22 Thread J. Coon


Is this it?  

I WANT YOU

  No one ever said it was gonna be easy
  A pain to tease me the barrier’s broken
  Climbing aboard a white knuckle ride
  That churns my insides the wheels are in
motion

  I want you
 Right now and forever

My mind is set harder and harder
 No chance of defeat it’s not in my nature
   I’ve set a course you’re the receiver
I’m the retriever I’m out to get you

  I want you
 Right now and forever

Ornette Wilson wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I am trying to get an ID for a song featured in a Sony MiniDisc advert from
 1996/97.  The advert
 features a man speeding down an open road (in America or something).
 
 As for the song, its sort of a modern rock sounding tune.  The lyrics go
 something like:
 Noone ever said it was gonna be easy...
 
 Can anyone help me

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Re: MD: Sharp MD-R3 go boom?

2001-08-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


Larry explained to Will,

| Sorry, I thought that you were referring to the Sony MD-R3.  Can't believe
| that Sharp would use the same name as Sony.  What were they thinking?

They didn't need to think anything.  The vintage-1995 Sony portable that you
were thinking of is the MZ-R3.  The model names are uncomfortably similar
but they are not identical.



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Re: MD: Sharp MD-R3 go boom?

2001-08-22 Thread las


David W. Tamkin wrote:

 They didn't need to think anything.  The vintage-1995 Sony portable that you
 were thinking of is the MZ-R3.  The model names are uncomfortably similar
 but they are not identical.


There goes my dyslexia!!

Sony has always used the MZ designation, while Sharp uses MD.  And for some
reason Sony's first portable was the MZ-1, no R in it.  Every standard
portable that Sony made after that has an R in it.  Sony's first portable
player was the 2P.  After that they started using an E to designate players.

The R makes sense.  But why an E?  Am I missing something obvious?  I would have
called them P (like an MZ-P2).
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Re: MD: Sony MiniDisc advert circa 1996

2001-08-22 Thread las




J. Coon wrote:

 Is this it?

 I WANT YOU

   No one ever said it was gonna be easy
   A pain to tease me the barrier’s broken
   Climbing aboard a white knuckle ride
   That churns my insides the wheels are in
 motion

   I want you
  Right now and forever

 My mind is set harder and harder
  No chance of defeat it’s not in my nature
I’ve set a course you’re the receiver
 I’m the retriever I’m out to get you

   I want you
  Right now and forever


I don't recognize it from the words, Jim.  Can you hum a few bars?  Too bad the
list doesn't allow you to attach MP3 files :).  Maybe you have a link to one.
What was the name of the song and who recorded it?

Larry

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Re: MD: Sony MiniDisc advert circa 1996

2001-08-22 Thread Dave Hooper


It's by The Inspiral Carpets.  track called I Want You

HTH

dave


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 Hello.

 I am trying to get an ID for a song featured in a Sony MiniDisc advert
from
 1996/97.  The advert
 features a man speeding down an open road (in America or something).

 As for the song, its sort of a modern rock sounding tune.  The lyrics go
 something like:
 Noone ever said it was gonna be easy...

 Can anyone help me
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Re: MD: Sony MiniDisc advert circa 1996

2001-08-22 Thread J. Coon


http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/9091/iwantyou.htm
Thats about all I can find on it.


las wrote:
 I don't recognize it from the words, Jim.  Can you hum a few bars?  Too bad the
 list doesn't allow you to attach MP3 files :).  Maybe you have a link to one.
 What was the name of the song and who recorded it?
 
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Re: MD: Sony MiniDisc advert circa 1996

2001-08-22 Thread J. Coon


I don't remember ever hearing the song either and I don't recognize it
from the words.  I was hoping to find an MP3 of it.  

Hey guys, it is easier to download an MP3 than a minidisc.


las wrote:
 I don't recognize it from the words, Jim.  Can you hum a few bars?  Too bad the
 list doesn't allow you to attach MP3 files :).  Maybe you have a link to one.
 What was the name of the song and who recorded it?
 
 Larry

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RE: MD: Grouping

2001-08-22 Thread Simon Mackay


==BEGIN QUOTE===
To answer the original question, I believe the grouping area is so that
you can create tracks that are actually supersets of tracks.  Playlists, in
other words.
==END QUOTE=

This feature comes in handy in the following situations:

1 - You record two or more albums to the one MD. You then use the Group
Function to organize the tracks so that you know which album the tracks
belong to - Tracks 1 - 10 belong to Album 1 for example while Tracks 11-20
belong to Album 2.

2 - You use MD for presentation audio like square-dance calling, praise
and worship music in a church, sound for theatre, background music for
fashion parades and other similar applications (you hook up the MD deck to a
PA amplifier and have it provide backing audio). You then use Group Function
to class tracks on the one MD according to the situation that they are meant
to be played in e.g. slow music,  background music, audio for a
particular act in a play, etc.

3 - You make a compilation MD and you find that there are very special songs
that stand out from the pack. Then you don't want to dump the rest of the
tracks from the disc so you can hear the favourites of favourites alone.
Here, you can group those tracks in their own group so you can have a
sub-playlist with thos songs and be able to use the Repeat Group or
Shuffle Group function on suitably-equipped players to hear only those
tracks. This situation is the same if you wish to prevent the playback of
controversial songs that you recorded on an MD on Group-enabled communal MD
equipment - you only play the desired tracks group on the equipment.

Also, has anyone put up on the MDCP any manuals for Group-enabled MD
equipment? This can help people to understand how the function works and its
limitations, including compatibility with legacy MD gear such as the Sony
MDS-JE520 deck.

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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Re: MD: Grouping

2001-08-22 Thread David W. Tamkin


Simon Mackay wrote,

| Also, has anyone put up on the MDCP any manuals for Group-enabled MD
| equipment?

Apparently not yet.

| This can help people to understand how the function works and its
| limitations, including compatibility with legacy MD gear such as the Sony
| MDS-JE520 deck.

I should hope that older units would just ignore it and see all tracks on
the disc without subsets as they do now.  Anything else would cause a
problem in playback.


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