Re: [MBZ] Weight of soy oil

[Christopher McCann]

Costco today: KC, MO

35 pounds of soybean oil with tax = $13.53
.13 gal/lb (or 7.69 lb/gal) = 4.55 gal @ $2.97/gallon

It's still cheaper for me to buy at the pump, but a
1,000 liter tote is a hell of alot cheaper than a 35
lb jug. Will call the distributors next week and split
a tote with my 300D benz buddy.

Also snagged 55 gallons of WVO from a mosque
today...they have fish fries and wanted to get rid of
it - smells fresh :-)

Christopher

--- Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Food grade soy began to make sense today, especially
> as emer. backup.  Dino
> @ ~ $3.40; long lines at pump; some stations with no
> fuel; production and
> pipeline from TX & LA down.
> 35 lb jug of soy @ $14.17 incl. sales tax at Sam's.
> 1 gal soy weighs, I think, ~ 7.4 lbs (still trying
> to confirm)
> 35 lbs @ $14.17 = ~ 4.6 gal @ ~ $3.08/gal
> If I NEED it, I'll pour it from jug into tank.
> 
> Wilton
> 91 350SDL, 87 showroom 300D
> Goldsboro, NC
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A PLACE TO TO STAY

[juan palacios]

i would like to know where im at atlanta,from metairie
la.

--- "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> consider*
> 
> On 9/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote: 
> > 
> >  should any body need a place to stay
> > and can read this i have a 8 bedroom 5 1/2 bath
> house i live alone and 
> > would conciter it a honor to host any family who
> is suffering from this 
> > devastating hurricane 
> >  contact me
> > Christian, .Muslim,Jewish, strait, gay, black,
> white, I don't give a damn 
> > you will be welcome and made whole
> >   we have not forgot about you all
> >   mike collins 
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[MBZ] over price POS

[redghost]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C13315ABB


w114


over priced rust bucket, low miles.  I like the interior
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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Christopher McCann]

Didn't realize you could do that.

Christopher


--- OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Use ethanol instead of methanol - less risk, more
> fun.
> 
> On 9/2/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Would you rather:
> > 1. make/Buy and install a kit once and then simply
> > collect and filter oil OR
> > 2. make/buy a reactor once, collect and filter oil
> AND
> > have to make the BioD now till the end of time
> > (METHANOL, whatever hydroxide (more on going
> expense
> > rather than all sunk costs with VOmoney),
> scrubbing
> > the stuff, de-watering, then viton lines if you
> use
> > too much methanol and then an insane asylum if you
> > spill the methanol on yourself. ANd then glycerine
> > laced with methanol (oh boy, really want to wash
> with
> > THAT!)
> > 
> > Do what you want, but for me, I'd rather leave
> BioD
> > manufactiure to Chevron.
> > 
> > CM
> 
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-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
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Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel List

[Christopher McCann]

oops, sorry

Christopher

--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Figured with the increased interest in biodiesel
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> you want to sign up:
> 
>
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> 
> So with that in mind, please keep most biodiesel
> discussions over on 
> that list.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] biodiesel from Chris

[Christopher McCann]

fair enough, health dangers can be minimized but you
must constantly do ALOT of work in exchange for not
putting a conversion kit in your car. With VO, you
make the conversion and then future work is cut by
2/3...just collect and filter.

CM

--- Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is why you use gloves, an apron, and a
> breather.  All can be had from your local store at a
> minimal cost vs health concerns.  The other option
> is using Ethanol.
> 
> 
> Would you rather:
> 1. make/Buy and install a kit once and then simply
> collect and filter oil OR
> 2. make/buy a reactor once, collect and filter oil
> AND
> have to make the BioD now till the end of time
> (METHANOL, whatever hydroxide (more on going expense
> rather than all sunk costs with VOmoney), scrubbing
> the stuff, de-watering, then viton lines if you use
> too much methanol and then an insane asylum if you
> spill the methanol on yourself. ANd then glycerine
> laced with methanol (oh boy, really want to wash
> with
> THAT!)
> 
> Do what you want, but for me, I'd rather leave BioD
> manufactiure to Chevron.
> 
> CM
> 
> 
> 
> Luther   KB5QHU
> Alma, Ark
> '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
> '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
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[redghost]

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I am sure putting this on Gump will get me the babes


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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Here we go! NOr eBay Listing

[Bucks2]

Now that's amazing. You know exactly how it came down. How did you do it? How 
did you find out that the rich guy didn't hire some poor schmuck to take his 
car out of town so he could stay and make more money ripping off the stock 
market? I'm positive you're right the "rich guy" left the "poor guy" to drown. 
What a crock of conjecture.

Now I might fit into your high and mighty moral high ground of being a rich 
guy. And, I even live next to a river with a levy which keeps the flood waters 
away from my house. But you know what, the last time I tried to raise the 
height of the levy they told me that the Democrat Mayor and the Democrat 
councilmembers were the only ones who could do that. Now I don't know if you're 
D or R, 
but if my house floods, its the D's fault! Even though I'd like to blame the 
president of the US for whatever bad happens to me, I believe the fault lies 
with me and my town which didn't do enough. 

Ken

In a message dated 9/1/2005 8:50:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here we go! NOr eBay Listing
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> IN RESPONSE TO NUMEROUS INQUIRIES.. CL600 WAS DRIVEN TO MEMPHIS PRIOR TO
> STORM , AND IS CURRENTLY THERE. EMAIL ME @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] IF YOU HAVE
> QUESTIONS STILL PERFECT RC

How reassuring. The poor were left to drown, the city had inadequate flood
defences, but by GOD we got the CL600s out just in the nick of time!

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Knock

[Peter Frederick]

Cold miss is almost certainly a dead glow plug.  the internal element 
can weld to the side of the GP, so the current draw is still OK, but 
the tip won't heat.  Causes intermittant miss until it warms up, a 
couple minutes max.  Usually accompanied by copious white smoke (cof 
cof).


A miss later than a couple minutes after startup is more likely worn 
injectors at that milage.  Bad spray patterns cause lots of clatter 
until the engine warms up completely, along with reduced power and 
milage.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing

[Peter Frederick]

Phillip:

I only recommend the drip method, and you don't need a fancy tool, 
either -- just take some fuel line and cut it on a slant for the drip 
point.


to whit:  remove delivery check valve and re-install holder.  Run the 
hand pump slowly or use an elevated can for the fuel (either works) and 
rotate engine until fuel flow dramatically slows.  You will know when 
that happens.  You must have a very slow continuing drip (you should 
have the plunger JUST closing off the feed slot in the plunger, no 
higher) and that is the injection time.  Should be 24 BTDC on a NA 
engine, 26 on a turbo.


The Benz tool for the "bubble;" method just encloses the fuel stream so 
it doesn't run on the ground, else it's identical.  The "bubble" method 
using clear tubing is also the same, except you are looking for the 
fuel level to stop rising as the plunger covers the feed slot.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel List

[Rich Thomas]

How about setting up a list for idle chatter about non-Benz stuff?

--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Figured with the increased interest in biodiesel would be a good idea to 
set up a list just for that.  Here is the link if you want to sign up:


http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/biodiesel_striplin.net

So with that in mind, please keep most biodiesel discussions over on 
that list.


Kaleb
 

[MBZ] Down?

[Rick Knoble]

Is this thing down.?
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

[MBZ] crankcase oil

[Gabriel S.]

first of all, what is the name of the to SVO list? Can I run my old M1 15w 
50 staight from crankcase to fuel tank of im doing a 50/50 mix?

-- 
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1987 300D 230K=-

Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[Gabriel S.]

Ken, you aren't alonei don't feel sorry for them either...lets cut the 
shit, we're all racist in here...right? (sarcastic)

On 9/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>  Seems odd doesn't it that the government is expected to take care of all 
> those "poor defensless people" in NO. Are the ones demanding rescue now the 
> same ones who failed to heed the MANDATORY evacuation of the city BEFORE the 
> hurricane hit? Are those who are now "without food and water" the same ones 
> who scoffed and berated the government for telling them to prepare for 
> chemical and boilogical attacks a year or so ago? Did they have their 3 days 
> of food and water put away for disasters? Hasn't the government been 
> preaching that you need to be self sufficient for at least 3 days after a 
> disaster? We're now in the fourth day and according to the Black 
> Congressional Congress spokesman this morning "infants are dieing due to 
> lack of formula", "people are dieing due to lack of food and water". One day 
> without food and water causes death? 
>  Or are these people the ones who believe the government should protect 
> them from everything? Being a part of emergency services (fire dept) for the 
> past 26 years has showed me that very few people actually think it could 
> happen to them. Well, a good portion of the south is now learning a lesson.
>  To that man who was rescued from his attic who was critical of how long 
> it took rescuers to get to him and then said he didn't leave because "HE 
> DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT BAD", You caused your own problem. I feel no 
> sympathy. You're a selfish bastard who is taking resources that should be 
> used for someone else. 
>  There are some legitimate reasons for still being in the City and needing 
> help. First, some poor or indigent folks simply didn't have a method to 
> leave. Some stayed for essential services. Some were actually there to help 
> restore services when the storm was over. If they need help they deserve 
> anything we can do. To those who stayed and are now looting, they should be 
> shot. (mandatory gun content)
>  To the Red Cross who is collecting money to help the effort, screw you! 
> When your Chairman lowers his almost $500,000.00 salary down to a 
> reasonable level I might start contributing again. I urge my friends to 
> donate to local efforts with real people doing real work. Not large 
> organizations who continually boost thier salaries and benefits using 
> charitable contributions. 
>  During 9-11, the International Assoc Of Firefighters used volunteer and 
> current staff time to collect and distribute funds to those in need. Check 
> with your own unions, your local charities, the "helplines" and volunteer 
> aid societies to find a place to donate to that uses 100% of the money for 
> help to those in need. They are out there, look for them and donate to them. 
> People who don't have the money to run $50,000.00 ads about what good work 
> we do. (cost of producing the ad, the stations donate the airtime to run 
> them)
>  Yes I'm a cold hearted bastard who doesn't feel any compassion. Think 
> about it though, shouldn't we take a little responsibility for our own 
> actions?
>  Ken
>   In a message dated 9/1/2005 8:05:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> From: JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> it has to do as well with the government having given up on the 
> concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of 
> its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any 
> responsibilities.
> 
> look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the 
> carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.
> 
> useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though
> 
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Re: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area

[redghost]

If I had snagged the rads out of the SLCs at PnP, I would gladly ship.  
Sadly, I did not foresee a need.


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 09:12 AM, JJJ wrote:


thanx...but radiators r us didn't have one..."dealer item only"
 
truck shipping is looking big...
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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[redghost]

Ken, I must assume you are not really from Puget Sound!  That whole 
"you got yourself into it, take responsibility" is just not kosher 
here.  We all want to suck on the public teat without having to pay or 
cover our own way.  Where do you get off telling us to be adults and 
think about the consequences of our actions?  If you tell me you are a 
Democrat, I will squeal to the pinko commies in Olympia and they will 
hunt you down for expressing such a cold republican thought.


And how dare you assume the imbeciles down south are capable of 
planning and making considered decisions about their life and future.  
Please leave that to the elected officials and service providers.  
These folks all want the lux life that having LT Don working with them 
provides.  I, for one, think they should all be given that life, no 
matter what their IQ or physical abilities.


then we can sterilize them




On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 08:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 
Yes I'm a cold hearted bastard who doesn't feel any compassion. Think 
about it though, shouldn't we take a little responsibility for our own 
actions?

 
Ken
 
 




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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices

[redghost]

Shows up in the mess down south. " Ain't gonna happen here, or to me"  
then the poor fool is trapped in his attic sucking air through 
fiberglass, scratching his  fingers to the bone to get out.


Darwin rules, and the slow pay the price

On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 08:51 AM, Mike Canfield wrote:

Actually, what we need is happening right now.  As typical of American 
culture we must be FORCED into conserving our resources.  Heaven 
forbid anyone accept change with open arms rather than bitching about 
the inconvenience.  As long as it is EASIER then that's what will 
happenMore nukes, refineries, etc..Ya know, It'll be OKJust go 
on with life as usual and wait for it to smack you in the face and be 
shocked when it happens.  (Not directed at anyone in particular just 
me ranting.)  That's the CONVENIENT AMERICAN WAY!

 
Mike



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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices

[redghost]

More refineries to handle the market forces demanding more fuel be 
processed.  Somebody's processor/refiner is down for weeks on end, and 
if there were some elasticity, there would be no massive fluctuations 
in supply when jim bob dork pokes a hole in the pipeline, or a slight 
breeze closes down a few oil rigs



On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 08:33 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


More refineries to take care of a diminishing supply of oil??


 
On 9/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, the peak oil problem is real.  In the mean time though, we still
need more refineries, more nukes, less BS with fuel regulations etc.

OK Don wrote:

> I thought you were in on the peak oil theory - there isn't anything
> you can do other than use less of the stuff so it doesn't run out so
> fast.
>
> We're still arguing over what to do with the nuke waste we've already
> generated - and you want more? Bury the waste in your backyard???
>
> Nope - we've got to stop wasting energy, finding/using other sources,
> and be willing to pay for what we do use.
>
> On 9/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>yes, these neurotic leftest environmentalists are whats causing our
>>major energy problems today.  Without that crap we would be building
>>more nukes, more refineries, drilling for more oil, then we wouldnt 
be

>>in this mess.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] what did you pay

[redghost]

Metro fares went up, so they have to pay more to get from Tacoma up to 
SeaTac.  If the Monorail were there,  you would not have to pay as much 
Ken.


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 08:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What bothers me is that the hookers in SeaTac raised their prices 
because of the "gas Prices". It's my car and my gas they were 
riding/working in!!!  

 
Ken
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

[redghost]

I understand the order of the day is shoot to kill for the Guard.  A 
general cleansing of looters would solve the helo issues as well as 
reduce the drain on relief agencies.


Or, they are not really looters, but Al Queda has hit US shores.  Shoot 
to kill anyway


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 08:23 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away 
law enforcement.  Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on?

 
 

 
On 9/1/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jabba ...

Naw, never mind.

Don



On 9/1/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

it has to do as well with the government having given up on the
concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of
its citizens.  I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any
responsibilities.

look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the
carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.

useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though


At 10:17 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote:
>JabbaHursty wrote:
> > what we have now is pretty terrible though.  this country is no 
longer a
> > place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing 
is

> > becoming non-existent.
>
>Oh, I agree with you there.  That situation has nothing to do with the
>presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
>forces in the housing market.  I suspect a big factor is that we've 
just

>come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as the
>only "safe" investment.
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Knock

[redghost]

Run AWAY-- the rods are bending!

On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 07:08 AM, ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:


OK folks... back to reality.

Started my 1990 350SDL with 245K miles on it a few days ago and it 
seems to

have developed an intermittent miss in the engine (about every 4 to 10
seconds between episodes).  Once the car has warmed up (~80C, 5 
minutes or
so) it goes away and runs as smooth as a kitten.for a diesel, that 
is.


My guess it's a glow plug, but the glow plug light is acting normally.
Could I still have a bad one?  Anything else to check?

Thanks, guys.

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[redghost]

Cheap way is to make your own.  More sweat equity, less testing for QA.

As long as you know all  your specs and make your spares,  you are fine.

On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 06:32 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:


there are cheaper kits:

www.greasecar.com
www.greasel.com

or you can study them all and make your own.

CM

--- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I am not buying any kit. The $1800 asking price is
about two month's take
home pay for me -- not realistic. I don have a
mortgage payment, Debbie's
car payment, utilities, cell phones, etc. to pay
for.

I do, however, plan to copy their idea and adapt it
from "parts" I either
find or can buy at the local parts store.

On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO

thing lately and it

doesn't have the ring of truth of something that's

going to be around for

long. I applaud you for doing it, and I may try it

as well, if I can afford

to buy a kit (or properly copy one).





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Re: [MBZ] Reality

[redghost]

The one shown is cool, but I much prefer the fish skeleton with the eye 
patch -- Pirate fish


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 06:11 AM, OK Don wrote:


Pastafarian "fish" is a --  hairy clam?
http://www.cafepress.com/venganza/



On 9/1/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Darwin fish as feet, Evolve fish has feet and hands holding a wrench.

http://www.evolvefish.com

I have an Evolve fish on my old Buick.

Tim
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Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices

[redghost]

Biggest issue I see is the one use theory of everything.  Stuff should 
be used, reused, washed and used again.  Until there is nothing left of 
it.  Smelt the CRT into bullets of some other useful thing.  Take the 
devastated homes in the Gulf and turn them into compost or salvage them 
in some manner.


There is a way to make the nuke "waste" good for other than filling a 
hole in the ground.  I have no idea what, but there has got to be a 
way.  In a few years we are going to be hitting the landfills with 
mining equipment to get at all the wonderful stuff locked away 
underground.


Nature recycles, we should do no less.  Heck we do it everyday being 
the cheap pack of bastids we are just to keep our wheels on the road.


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 06:00 AM, OK Don wrote:


I thought you were in on the peak oil theory - there isn't anything
you can do other than use less of the stuff so it doesn't run out so
fast.

We're still arguing over what to do with the nuke waste we've already
generated - and you want more? Bury the waste in your backyard???

Nope - we've got to stop wasting energy, finding/using other sources,
and be willing to pay for what we do use.




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[MBZ] Phone Call

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

Subject:FW: Phone call.

The phone rang as I was sitting down to my anticipated evening  meal, 
and as I answered it I was greeted with, "Is this Wilhiam Wagenhoss?"

This didn't sound anything like my name, so I asked, "Who is calling?"
The telemarketer said he was with The Rubber band-Powered Freezer  Company
or something like that and then I asked him if he knew "Wilhiam"  personally
and why was he was calling this number.
I then said, off to the side, "Get really good pictures of the body and 
all the blood."
I then turned back to the phone and advised the caller that he had 
entered a murder scene and must stay on the line because we had already 
traced this call and he would be receiving a summons to appear in the 
local courthouse

to testify in this murder case.
I then questioned the caller at great length as to his name, address, 
phone number at home, at work, whom he worked for, how he knew the dead 
guy, and could he prove where he had been about one hour before he made 
this call.

The telemarketer was getting very concerned and his answers were given in a
shaky voice.
I proceeded to tell him we had located his position at his work place 
and the police were entering the building to take him into custody.  At that

point, I heard the phone fall and the scurrying of his running away.
My wife asked me as I returned to our table, why I had tears streaming 
down my face and so help me, I couldn't tell her for about fifteen 
minutes. My meal was cold, but oh-so-very enjoyable.

Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[redghost]

must be something in the Vega that gets you on the path to diesel Benz 
within a decade or so.  I had a 72 Vega I got dirt cheap.  Drove it 
until the doors would no longer stay closed.  That was a fun car to 
deliver pizza in when you took a corner.  Great for taking out peds on 
the corners


On Friday, September 2, 2005, at 05:40 AM, Harry  M. wrote:

Oh man, I was hoping I read that right. Guess I shouldn't be 
embarresed to say I owned a Vega. Seem to recall though there was one 
very desirable model called the cosworth vega. Ah yes, the ford 
trilogy of "geek mobiles" the pinto



Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, for $200 4 years ago, we couldn't pass it up!  That lead to a 
$500
Mercury Bobcat, another $100 parts car and a nice $1000 1980 Pinto 
wagon
with 80K original miles.  Looking back, it was  kind of like buying a 
nice
240D with 300K on it.  We sold them wen I found the first 300D, and 
the rest

is HISTORY!

OMG, I seem to recall they were evil little cars on the road, tho. At 
least

the Vega had some semblance of road manners, albeit crude ones (though
someone told me later the sportier models were respectable on twisty 
roads).


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[MBZ] Out of the frying pan....

[RELNGSON]

 <>

Please tell us you don't still have the 280.

RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] Just dump in the green stuff...

[RELNGSON]

ROTAX OWNERS CAUTIONED ABOUT USING IMPROPER COOLANT
The FAA has issued a special airworthiness information bulletin (SAIB)
to alert owners and operators of Bombardier-Rotax 912 A, 912 F, 912 S,
and 914 F series engines about using the proper type of coolant. Using
the improper type of coolant can result in a loss of coolant and
overheating when the engine is operated at cylinder head temperatures
above 120 C, said the FAA. The affected engines are installed on
certificated airplanes like the Diamond DA-20 and on many experimental
and light sport airplanes. For complete information, download the SAIB
( http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2005/saibne0584.pdf ).

RLE/Seattle

Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Kevin]

On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:56:20AM -0400, Steve MacSween wrote:
> OMG, I seem to recall they were evil little cars on the road, tho. At least
> the Vega had some semblance of road manners, albeit crude ones (though
> someone told me later the sportier models were respectable on twisty roads).

Vega wagons had a weak unibody/frame/whatever. If you put a healthy 454
in one, and stood on the loud pedal, the back windows had difficulty 
remaining in the car. :)

The car had a slight oversteering problem too for some reason.

K

Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[andrew strasfogel]

<>
 You finally said something that I can agree with.

 On 9/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>  Seems odd doesn't it that the government is expected to take care of all 
> those "poor defensless people" in NO. Are the ones demanding rescue now the 
> same ones who failed to heed the MANDATORY evacuation of the city BEFORE the 
> hurricane hit? Are those who are now "without food and water" the same ones 
> who scoffed and berated the government for telling them to prepare for 
> chemical and boilogical attacks a year or so ago? Did they have their 3 days 
> of food and water put away for disasters? Hasn't the government been 
> preaching that you need to be self sufficient for at least 3 days after a 
> disaster? We're now in the fourth day and according to the Black 
> Congressional Congress spokesman this morning "infants are dieing due to 
> lack of formula", "people are dieing due to lack of food and water". One day 
> without food and water causes death? 
>  Or are these people the ones who believe the government should protect 
> them from everything? Being a part of emergency services (fire dept) for the 
> past 26 years has showed me that very few people actually think it could 
> happen to them. Well, a good portion of the south is now learning a lesson.
>  To that man who was rescued from his attic who was critical of how long 
> it took rescuers to get to him and then said he didn't leave because "HE 
> DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT BAD", You caused your own problem. I feel no 
> sympathy. You're a selfish bastard who is taking resources that should be 
> used for someone else. 
>  There are some legitimate reasons for still being in the City and needing 
> help. First, some poor or indigent folks simply didn't have a method to 
> leave. Some stayed for essential services. Some were actually there to help 
> restore services when the storm was over. If they need help they deserve 
> anything we can do. To those who stayed and are now looting, they should be 
> shot. (mandatory gun content)
>  To the Red Cross who is collecting money to help the effort, screw you! 
> When your Chairman lowers his almost $500,000.00 salary down to a 
> reasonable level I might start contributing again. I urge my friends to 
> donate to local efforts with real people doing real work. Not large 
> organizations who continually boost thier salaries and benefits using 
> charitable contributions. 
>  During 9-11, the International Assoc Of Firefighters used volunteer and 
> current staff time to collect and distribute funds to those in need. Check 
> with your own unions, your local charities, the "helplines" and volunteer 
> aid societies to find a place to donate to that uses 100% of the money for 
> help to those in need. They are out there, look for them and donate to them. 
> People who don't have the money to run $50,000.00 ads about what good work 
> we do. (cost of producing the ad, the stations donate the airtime to run 
> them)
>  Yes I'm a cold hearted bastard who doesn't feel any compassion. Think 
> about it though, shouldn't we take a little responsibility for our own 
> actions?
>  Ken
>   In a message dated 9/1/2005 8:05:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> From: JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> it has to do as well with the government having given up on the 
> concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of 
> its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any 
> responsibilities.
> 
> look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the 
> carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.
> 
> useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fast, cheap and out of control (was Re: GUNS)

[TimothyPilgrim]

The VW TDIs are flying off the dealers' lots around here. My wife's
coworker test drove a used Golf TDI, and it was sold out from under
them by the time they returned to the store. They had to settle for a
2001 Jetta TDI.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> But HERE is the kicker: I would have expected to see the SUV and pickups
> owners in line. They would have saved a bundle. Nope, all small cars, Korean
> and old Japanese beaters. That to me said a lot about how the social
> dynamics of any coming crisis will play out.

Re: [MBZ] A PLACE TO TO STAY

[TimothyPilgrim]

No brown atheists, eh?

Seriously, that's a very good thing you're doing.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

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>  
>  
> should any body need a place to stay 
> and can read this   i have a 8 bedroom 5 1/2 bath housei live alone and
> would conciter it a honor to host  any family  who is suffering from this
> devastating hurricane 
>   
> contact me 
> Christian, .Muslim,Jewish, strait, gay, black, white, I don't give a damn
> you will be welcome and made whole 
>   
>  we have not forgot about you all 
>   
>  mike collins  
> phila pa 
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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[Potter, Tom E]

Right on--especially the bit about the Red Cross.
 
 
I guess I'm a heartless bastard too.
 

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting


Seems odd doesn't it that the government is expected to take care of all
those "poor defensless people" in NO. Are the ones demanding rescue now
the same ones who failed to heed the MANDATORY evacuation of the city
BEFORE the hurricane hit? Are those who are now "without food and water"
the same ones who scoffed and berated the government for telling them to
prepare for chemical and boilogical attacks a year or so ago? Did they
have their 3 days of food and water put away for disasters? Hasn't the
government been preaching that you need to be self sufficient for at
least 3 days after a disaster? We're now in the fourth day and according
to the Black Congressional Congress spokesman this morning "infants are
dieing due to lack of formula", "people are dieing due to lack of food
and water". One day without food and water causes death? 
 
Or are these people the ones who believe the government should protect
them from everything? Being a part of emergency services (fire dept) for
the past 26 years has showed me that very few people actually think it
could happen to them. Well, a good portion of the south is now learning
a lesson.
 
To that man who was rescued from his attic who was critical of how long
it took rescuers to get to him and then said he didn't leave because "HE
DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT BAD", You caused your own problem. I feel
no sympathy. You're a selfish bastard who is taking resources that
should be used for someone else. 
 
There are some legitimate reasons for still being in the City and
needing help. First, some poor or indigent folks simply didn't have a
method to leave. Some stayed for essential services. Some were actually
there to help restore services when the storm was over. If they need
help they deserve anything we can do. To those who stayed and are now
looting, they should be shot. (mandatory gun content)
 
To the Red Cross who is collecting money to help the effort, screw you!
When your Chairman lowers his almost $500,000.00 salary down to a
reasonable level I might start contributing again. I urge my friends to
donate to local efforts with real people doing real work. Not large
organizations who continually boost thier salaries and benefits using
charitable contributions. 
 
During 9-11, the International Assoc Of Firefighters used volunteer and
current staff time to collect and distribute funds to those in need.
Check with your own unions, your local charities, the "helplines" and
volunteer aid societies to find a place to donate to that uses 100% of
the money for help to those in need. They are out there, look for them
and donate to them. People who don't have the money to run $50,000.00
ads about what good work we do. (cost of producing the ad, the stations
donate the airtime to run them)
 
Yes I'm a cold hearted bastard who doesn't feel any compassion. Think
about it though, shouldn't we take a little responsibility for our own
actions?
 
Ken
 
 
In a message dated 9/1/2005 8:05:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

it has to do as well with the government having given up on the 
concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of 
its citizens.  I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any 
responsibilities.

look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the 
carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.

useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though

Re: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area

[Potter, Tom E]

I will help what I can. You can park it at my place if you like. Give me
a call.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JJJ
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:28 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area


listers...

i have an unfolding disaster happening in houston...

i bought an ebay 450sl in houston from a cheat and a liar...

after many unsuccessfull weeks of triing to get the car shipped, i sent
a 
friend to transport it back to spokane, wa...

two days ago he picked it up and is still triing to make it roadworthy
(long 
and nasty list)...

today we heard the radiator is bad, and it is still unknown if one is 
available...if not, he will see if it will travel and head for austin 
(things are very tight in houston for lodging, etc)

it seems that our options are:

1. get radiator repair and get on the road (good if can be done today)

2. put it on a uhaul (way expensive)

3.find someplace to park it and await shipping

4.sell it at a loss and wander off with another lesson

5. (other choice not discovered)

so,...anybody in the area have room for a '75 450sl untill a car carrier
can 
come fetch it?





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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

[David Brodbeck]

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:23:39 -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote
> Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away law 
> enforcement.  Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on?

It's the wild west down there, now.  We're seeing a libertarian's dream world; 
no government, just people and guns.

 

Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[David Brodbeck]

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:57:15 EDT, Bucks2 wrote
> Seems odd doesn't it that the government is expected to take care of all 
> those "poor defensless people" in NO. Are the ones demanding rescue now the 
> same ones who failed to heed the MANDATORY evacuation of the city BEFORE the 
> hurricane hit?

Many of them had no cars, and hence no means of evacuating on their own.  The 
city told them to go to the convention center and the hospitals.  Now they're 
there, and the government has failed to provide food, water, or transportation 
out for them.  Poor planning.

 

Re: [MBZ] and on an historical note regarding this community

[Potter, Tom E]

Hey, the British schoolkids get to use the F-bomb 5 times a day without
retribution. 

Thomas E. Potter
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Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:05 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] and on an historical note regarding this community


oh yea, I guess he did, hope I dont get banned

Im just all worked up this evening, dont even know what Im posting.

Mitch Haley wrote:

> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
>>no, I can then part the f* out.
> 
> 
> Hey, didn't the list administrator already warn you about f-bombs this
week?
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Re: [MBZ] Passat diesels

[David Goldsmith]

For a diesel Toureg?  Where you shopping?

DG

--- Harry  M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, here's the not so good or bad news. Base Price
> is $24,000 all the way up to $36,000 for a fully
> loaded model with all wheel drive
> 
> 
> OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >If enough of them get into the country, they'll get
> old and cheep someday -- 
> >
> >> 
> >> Also a bummer, but always out of my price range.
> :(
> >> 
> >> DG
> >
> >-- 
> >OK Don, KD5NRO
> >Norman, OK 
> >'87 300SDL
> >'81 240D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?

[David Goldsmith]

Aha!  Finally an explanation which "clears the air,"
so to speak.

DG

--- Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:48:01PM -0400, Jeff Zedic
> wrote:
> > Hah! Believe me, if VW can meet Euro 4 emission
> specs, they can meet the 
> > wimpy US EPA limits!
> 
> Don't forget that the EU and EPA have DIFFERENT WAYS
> THEY MEASURE EMISSIONS.
> The EPA places a much higher emphasis on NOx and
> particulates than the EU.
> 
> As we all know, diesels burning petro diesel are way
> higher in NOx than their
> gasser counterparts. This is why imported diesels
> (mercedes and otherwise)
> are few and far between, and why we go for years
> without seeing any new
> imports.
> 
> K
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Re: [MBZ] A VERY serious topic

[David Brodbeck]

You know, the most disturbing thing about this whole disaster is the way the 
people involved reacted.  Normally, when a major disaster happens, you hear 
about people banding together to help each other through.  The citizens of 
New Orleans, however, seem to have gone straight for each others' throats.  
Looters are shooting at anyone in uniform.  The National Guard had to 
abandon an attempt to evacuate a hospital when a sniper started firing at 
them.  It's like a war zone.  I guess New Orleans's legendary lawlessness is 
rearing its ugly head.

Re: [MBZ] Importing diesels from CA

[David Goldsmith]

Great, thanks, we may take you up on that.

DG

--- Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's the "skinny" on importing cars from Canada. I
> have had new cars 
> imported, but it depends on cooperation from the US
> side of the 
> manufacturers operations. Many new cars are
> identical to US modesl, but in 
> the interest of the US dealers, the manufacturer
> won't give a letter of 
> compliance to the consumer. In my experience, once a
> vehicle is six months 
> old (registered for six months) it is no longer new,
> and the manufacturer is 
> more helpful. 
>  There are some models which are extremely difficult
> (read $$$) to import 
> due to such things, as previously mentioned, as
> restraints. The speedometer 
> changover is not required, as the CDN models have
> the mph equivalants where 
> the KPH readings ar on US models.
>  A common manufacturer letter would state basically,
> this vehicle, 
> identified by the VIN, meets all US safety (with the
> exception of markings) 
> and emission standards in effect for the year of
> manufacture. When a person 
> presents this letter, we verify the VIN, charge
> duty, if required, and issue 
> a CBP Form 7501 which is presented at the person's
> state vehicle licensing 
> office as proof of legal entry into the US.
>  In cases where the vehicle does not meet standards,
> the vehicle will be 
> imported "formally" through a broker, and when proof
> of compliance is 
> provided by a RI, the bond is cancelled, and the
> vehicle released with the 
> 7501.
>  Ideally, you'd want a vehicle which meets the
> standards without 
> modifications. All 88-95 Mercedes fall into this
> category, and as an added 
> bonus, they are marked as compliant, so no
> manufacturer compliance letter is 
> required. On the down side, these are mostly
> gasoline models.
>  I have a list of manufacturer contact tel#'s as
> well as fax #'s. I would be 
> glad to assist anyone in the customs relm, please
> contact me offlist.
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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[LT Don]

Yep, mid- to late-1970s. 

On 9/2/05, Potter, Tom E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> JP-5? That really dates us Don. I think they are up to JP-8 now.
>  


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Re: [MBZ] Bringing in Canadian new cars

[David Goldsmith]

> think Griffey ended up with one plus that skinhead
> baseball player 
> whats-his-name.

I think you're thinking of Buhner.

> I doubt that any VW buyer would be willing to pay
> any premium to get a diesel 
> Jetta or whatever they are called these days.

Probably right on the Jetta, wrong on the Passat Wagon
(but $9K over MSRP, that'd be pushing it for my
pocketbook, but not for others I suspect).

DG/Oly/Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Potter, Tom E]

Jeez Don 115/145 AvGas. Were you on the Ark? I didn't know they had a helideck. 
:)
 

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:50 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ


At the time, I drove a Vega and then a  1978 Pinto. Hey, I was a junior 
enlisted guy so give me a break.

We were required by NATOPS (as if you don't know what that means) to drain all 
of the tanks of their 145 Octane AvGas when we did an annual inspection. Well, 
we could drain the tanks into a waste vehicle ... OR we could drain the tanks 
into our personal vehicles. 

Since I was the supervisor ... well, good AvGas is such a terrible thing to 
waste. 

Ya ain't heard a Pinto scream until you've heard it fueled by 145 AvGas. 

This, by the way, is how my Benz mech friend kept his car topped off with JP5. 

Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel List

[David Goldsmith]

Thanks, Kaleb!

DG

--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Figured with the increased interest in biodiesel
> would be a good idea to 
> set up a list just for that.  Here is the link if
> you want to sign up:
> 
>
http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/biodiesel_striplin.net
> 
> So with that in mind, please keep most biodiesel
> discussions over on 
> that list.
> 
> Kaleb
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>   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area

[Rusty Cullens]

I know that I have a new Behr radiator and ship all orders same day.
1-800-741-5252
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJJ
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area
 
thanx...but radiators r us didn't have one..."dealer item only"
 
truck shipping is looking big...

Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[JJJ]

i think that's what this list is...as i stare off into the uncertain mists 
of financial insecurity riding on the southern belle of sedsuction in that 
repainted 450sl...around and thru the pain and human torrent ...



Mr Administrator, can we set up a random stream of consciousness rant
list for this sort of thing?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (208k)
'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)

Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[degcoast]

I second that.
Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co.
- Original Message - 
From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting



Mr Administrator, can we set up a random stream of consciousness rant
list for this sort of thing?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (208k)
'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)

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Re: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area

[JJJ]

thanx...but radiators r us didn't have one..."dealer item only"

truck shipping is looking big...

Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Potter, Tom E]

JP-5? That really dates us Don. I think they are up to JP-8 now.
 

Thomas E. Potter
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Fax: (713) 215-2551
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:17 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] LobstaQ


I suggest a picnic at CGAS Cape Cod. Sit under the HU-16E static display and 
drink a toast to me, who put so many hundreds of hours inside that particular 
airframe. 

And then drink another toast to Darrell Barfield, the Coast Guard aircraft 
mechanic who owned the old Benz diesel that always smelled like JP5 (only 
airplane folks will understand that). 

Don

Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[Zeitgeist]

Mr Administrator, can we set up a random stream of consciousness rant
list for this sort of thing?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (208k)
'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)

Re: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 9/2/2005 7:28:41 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

today we  heard the radiator is bad, and it is still unknown if one is  
available...if not, he will see if it will travel and head for austin  
(things are very tight in houston for lodging,  etc)



What a BIIIATCH,   hope he makes it.
 
Call 1-800 RADIATOR for a good price and a very real chance that they will  
deliver it today within 4 hours.  I would not try to fix a 30 year old  
radiator that may cost more to repair than a new one.
 
No affiliation, but they have great service and OEM quality radiators  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

[Bucks2]

Seems odd doesn't it that the government is expected to take care of all 
those "poor defensless people" in NO. Are the ones demanding rescue now the 
same 
ones who failed to heed the MANDATORY evacuation of the city BEFORE the 
hurricane hit? Are those who are now "without food and water" the same ones who 
scoffed and berated the government for telling them to prepare for chemical and 
boilogical attacks a year or so ago? Did they have their 3 days of food and 
water 
put away for disasters? Hasn't the government been preaching that you need to 
be self sufficient for at least 3 days after a disaster? We're now in the 
fourth day and according to the Black Congressional Congress spokesman this 
morning "infants are dieing due to lack of formula", "people are dieing due to 
lack 
of food and water". One day without food and water causes death? 

Or are these people the ones who believe the government should protect them 
from everything? Being a part of emergency services (fire dept) for the past 26 
years has showed me that very few people actually think it could happen to 
them. Well, a good portion of the south is now learning a lesson.

To that man who was rescued from his attic who was critical of how long it 
took rescuers to get to him and then said he didn't leave because "HE DIDN'T 
THINK IT WOULD BE THAT BAD", You caused your own problem. I feel no sympathy. 
You're a selfish bastard who is taking resources that should be used for 
someone 
else. 

There are some legitimate reasons for still being in the City and needing 
help. First, some poor or indigent folks simply didn't have a method to leave. 
Some stayed for essential services. Some were actually there to help restore 
services when the storm was over. If they need help they deserve anything we 
can 
do. To those who stayed and are now looting, they should be shot. (mandatory 
gun content)

To the Red Cross who is collecting money to help the effort, screw you! When 
your Chairman lowers his almost $500,000.00 salary down to a reasonable level 
I might start contributing again. I urge my friends to donate to local efforts 
with real people doing real work. Not large organizations who continually 
boost thier salaries and benefits using charitable contributions. 

During 9-11, the International Assoc Of Firefighters used volunteer and 
current staff time to collect and distribute funds to those in need. Check with 
your own unions, your local charities, the "helplines" and volunteer aid 
societies to find a place to donate to that uses 100% of the money for help to 
those 
in need. They are out there, look for them and donate to them. People who don't 
have the money to run $50,000.00 ads about what good work we do. (cost of 
producing the ad, the stations donate the airtime to run them)

Yes I'm a cold hearted bastard who doesn't feel any compassion. Think about 
it though, shouldn't we take a little responsibility for our own actions?

Ken


In a message dated 9/1/2005 8:05:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

it has to do as well with the government having given up on the 
concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of 
its citizens.  I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any 
responsibilities.

look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the 
carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.

useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though

Re: [MBZ] Fast, cheap and out of control (was Re: GUNS)

[JabbaHursty]

i am not saying their should be no government, just that the governments 
duties should more limited


I think protecting the citizenry from civil unrest is a legitimate 
undertaking for the government.



At 11:26 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> it has to do as well with the government having given up on the
> concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of
> its citizens.  I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any
> responsibilities.

It's inevitable, given the path that the citizens have (at least implicitly)
endorsed, namely bigger, faster, cheaper and gimme more. This is one of the
central head-scratchers for Canadians, with reference to our neighbours: you
in one breath proclaim that too much government is bad, yet in the next you
still express a desire for government to, in essence, protect you from
yourselves. How you expect your government to do both, eludes us.

On a wider note, it is also insanely ironical that the generation now 'in
charge' of this meltdown is none other than the hippie generation. The
hippie movement was always loaded down with fascists, a fact its membership
continues to actively repress from the general history and public mythology
of the time. It is no wonder that, when given the opportunity to be robber
barons instead of unwashed burners of university ROTC offices, they have
chosen to screw everyone but themselves into the ground. As big a problem as
ENRON may have been, it was only one small symptom of the bigger disease.

In this respect the U.S. and Canada are the same: the increasing gap between
the rich and poor, put alongside the 'culture of contentment' (big homes,
two SUVs in the driveway, overly empowered teenagers, etc.) is a recipe for
more chaos, to mention of social meltdown should another continental
catastrophe occur.

Witness events yesterday afternoon where I live, Aylmer, a town of maybe
70,000 across the river from Canada's capital, Ottawa. When gas prices shot
up, two stations (same oil company) on the main street for some reason did
no hike their prices, so I guess they were pumping for 90c/gal under
everyone else.

My god, remember the old news pics of the frantic chaos at the start of the
first 'oil crisis'? Now I've seen it. The police had to be called to restore
order. When I drove by at about 5 p.m. there were probably 20 cars at the
one station, 30-40  at the other, all crammed in, in different directions,
people angry, waits were probably 30-60 minutes easy. (By those numbers I am
counting only those cars on the station lot. There were lineups in both
directions, on both sides of the street.)

But HERE is the kicker: I would have expected to see the SUV and pickups
owners in line. They would have saved a bundle. Nope, all small cars, Korean
and old Japanese beaters. That to me said a lot about how the social
dynamics of any coming crisis will play out.

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices

[Mike Canfield]

Actually, what we need is happening right now.  As typical of American culture 
we must be FORCED into conserving our resources.  Heaven forbid anyone accept 
change with open arms rather than bitching about the inconvenience.  As long as 
it is EASIER then that's what will happenMore nukes, refineries, etc..Ya 
know, It'll be OKJust go on with life as usual and wait for it to smack you 
in the face and be shocked when it happens.  (Not directed at anyone in 
particular just me ranting.)  That's the CONVENIENT AMERICAN WAY!

Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: andrew strasfogel 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices


  More refineries to take care of a diminishing supply of oil??


   
  On 9/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Yes, the peak oil problem is real.  In the mean time though, we still
need more refineries, more nukes, less BS with fuel regulations etc. 

OK Don wrote:

> I thought you were in on the peak oil theory - there isn't anything
> you can do other than use less of the stuff so it doesn't run out so
> fast.
>
> We're still arguing over what to do with the nuke waste we've already 
> generated - and you want more? Bury the waste in your backyard???
>
> Nope - we've got to stop wasting energy, finding/using other sources,
> and be willing to pay for what we do use.
>
> On 9/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>yes, these neurotic leftest environmentalists are whats causing our
>>major energy problems today.  Without that crap we would be building 
>>more nukes, more refineries, drilling for more oil, then we wouldnt be
>>in this mess.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[andrew strasfogel]

<>
 I owned an original 1976 Chevette long enough (7 yrs.) to be able to afford 
to purchase our first Mercedes - a 1973 280.

 On 9/2/05, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> The Cosworth has a DOHC 4 cyl and is VERY fast as well as valuable now. 
> had
> a Pinto wagon years agoWas the best car I ever bought for $60Drove
> it all over the East coast for over a year.
> 
> Mike
> - Original Message -
> From: "Harry " M.)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ
> 
> 
> Oh man, I was hoping I read that right. Guess I shouldn't be embarresed to
> say I owned a Vega. Seem to recall though there was one very desirable 
> model
> called the cosworth vega. Ah yes, the ford trilogy of "geek mobiles" the
> pinto
> 
> 
> Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >Well, for $200 4 years ago, we couldn't pass it up! That lead to a $500
> >Mercury Bobcat, another $100 parts car and a nice $1000 1980 Pinto wagon
> >with 80K original miles. Looking back, it was kind of like buying a nice
> >240D with 300K on it. We sold them wen I found the first 300D, and the 
> rest
> >is HISTORY!
> >
> >OMG, I seem to recall they were evil little cars on the road, tho. At 
> least
> >the Vega had some semblance of road manners, albeit crude ones (though
> >someone told me later the sportier models were respectable on twisty
> >roads).
> >
> >Mac
> >
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices

[andrew strasfogel]

More refineries to take care of a diminishing supply of oil??


 On 9/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Yes, the peak oil problem is real. In the mean time though, we still
> need more refineries, more nukes, less BS with fuel regulations etc.
> 
> OK Don wrote:
> 
> > I thought you were in on the peak oil theory - there isn't anything
> > you can do other than use less of the stuff so it doesn't run out so
> > fast.
> >
> > We're still arguing over what to do with the nuke waste we've already
> > generated - and you want more? Bury the waste in your backyard???
> >
> > Nope - we've got to stop wasting energy, finding/using other sources,
> > and be willing to pay for what we do use.
> >
> > On 9/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>yes, these neurotic leftest environmentalists are whats causing our
> >>major energy problems today. Without that crap we would be building
> >>more nukes, more refineries, drilling for more oil, then we wouldnt be
> >>in this mess.
> >
> >
> 
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> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] what did you pay

[Bucks2]

What bothers me is that the hookers in SeaTac raised their prices because of 
the "gas Prices". It's my car and my gas they were riding/working in!!!   

Ken 


In a message dated 9/1/2005 7:32:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weight of soy oilwhat did you pay???
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Dave M. wrote:
> 
> In the podunk towns I live next to, diesel popped to $3.25/gallon this
> morning.

Heck, I saw $3.16/gallon in SeaTac yesterday, and that ain't a podunk
town by MY standards!

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Miss (Not Knock...my fault)

[LT Don]

Order it from Rusty www.buymbparts.com  or
call (800)
741-5252

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Miss (Not Knock...my fault)

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 06:44:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Would you rather:
1. make/Buy and install a kit once and then simply
collect and filter oil OR
2. make/buy a reactor once, collect and filter oil AND
have to make the BioD now till the end of time
(METHANOL, whatever hydroxide (more on going expense
rather than all sunk costs with VOmoney), scrubbing
the stuff, de-watering, then viton lines if you use
too much methanol and then an insane asylum if you
spill the methanol on yourself. ANd then glycerine
laced with methanol (oh boy, really want to wash with
THAT!)

Do what you want, but for me, I'd rather leave BioD
manufactiure to Chevron.

CM


--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why dont you just forget burning the WVO and make
> biodiesel out of it?
> Or are you talking about a tank for making the
> biodiesel?
>


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 06:46:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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will look into that. local laws may vary.

CM

--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The only problem is that there are codes and
> regulations in place that
> require them to have a pickup service.
>
> Christopher McCann wrote:
> > my understanding is that once waste oil hits the
> > dumpster, it belongs to the co. that picks it
> > up...which is why we have planned all along to
> find
> > restaurants with whom we would agree to take all
> their
> > WVO, then they can cancel the regular pick up
> service
> > adn save some money too.
> >
> > CM
> >


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Re: [MBZ] biodiesel from Chris

[Luther Gulseth]

This is why you use gloves, an apron, and a breather.  All can be had from your 
local store at a minimal cost vs health concerns.  The other option is using 
Ethanol.


Would you rather:
1. make/Buy and install a kit once and then simply
collect and filter oil OR
2. make/buy a reactor once, collect and filter oil AND
have to make the BioD now till the end of time
(METHANOL, whatever hydroxide (more on going expense
rather than all sunk costs with VOmoney), scrubbing
the stuff, de-watering, then viton lines if you use
too much methanol and then an insane asylum if you
spill the methanol on yourself. ANd then glycerine
laced with methanol (oh boy, really want to wash with
THAT!)

Do what you want, but for me, I'd rather leave BioD
manufactiure to Chevron.

CM



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'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
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Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

[andrew strasfogel]

Of course, the looters easily obtained the guns that are scaring away law 
enforcement. Why don't you guys head up a posse and take 'em on?
  

 On 9/1/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Jabba ...
> 
> Naw, never mind.
> 
> Don 
> 
> 
> On 9/1/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/1/05, JabbaHursty < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > it has to do as well with the government having given up on the
> > > concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of
> > > its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any
> > > responsibilities. 
> > > 
> > > look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the
> > > carnage in new orleans to continue unabated.
> > > 
> > > useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though
> > > 
> > > 
> > > At 10:17 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: 
> > > >JabbaHursty wrote:
> > > > > what we have now is pretty terrible though. this country is no 
> > > longer a
> > > > > place for decent working folk, largely because cheap safe housing 
> > > is
> > > > > becoming non-existent. 
> > > >
> > > >Oh, I agree with you there. That situation has nothing to do with the
> > > >presence or lack of guns, however, and everything to do with economic
> > > >forces in the housing market. I suspect a big factor is that we've 
> > > just 
> > > >come out of a long stagnant period where real estate was viewed as 
> > > the
> > > >only "safe" investment.
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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Mike Canfield]

The Cosworth has a DOHC 4 cyl and is VERY fast as well as valuable now.  had 
a Pinto wagon years agoWas the best car I ever bought for $60Drove 
it all over the East coast for over a year.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Harry " M.)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ


Oh man, I was hoping I read that right. Guess I shouldn't be embarresed to 
say I owned a Vega. Seem to recall though there was one very desirable model 
called the cosworth vega. Ah yes, the ford trilogy of "geek mobiles" the 
pinto



Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, for $200 4 years ago, we couldn't pass it up! That lead to a $500
Mercury Bobcat, another $100 parts car and a nice $1000 1980 Pinto wagon
with 80K original miles. Looking back, it was kind of like buying a nice
240D with 300K on it. We sold them wen I found the first 300D, and the rest
is HISTORY!

OMG, I seem to recall they were evil little cars on the road, tho. At least
the Vega had some semblance of road manners, albeit crude ones (though
someone told me later the sportier models were respectable on twisty 
roads).


Mac




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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Mike Canfield]

Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)I put it in another 
postUse a tank from a W123 chasis Benz.It will slide in behind your OEM 
tank and take up little trunk space.   Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve MacSween 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)


  Yes, sort of my situation as well. Actually the tank seems to be the biggest 
challenge, yes? I mean for a decent one and I cannot think of anything 
'post-consumer' that might be adapted.

  Mac

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am not buying any kit. The $1800 asking price is about two month's take 
home pay for me -- not realistic.  I don have a mortgage payment, Debbie's car 
payment, utilities, cell phones, etc. to pay for. 

I do, however, plan to copy their idea and adapt it from "parts" I either 
find or can buy at the local parts store. 

On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO thing lately and it 
doesn't  have the ring of truth of something that's going to be around for 
long. I applaud you for doing it, and I may try it as well, if I can afford to 
buy a kit (or properly copy one).








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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Mike Canfield]

An old Benz plastic tank will slide in right behind the original tank in a 123. 
 Cut a hole in the top and drop in a transmission cooler that is spliced in to 
your heater lines.  This will heat the fuel.  Go to the salvage yard and get a 
3 way valve from a Ford truck with two tanks and splice that in the fuel lines 
as close to the engine as possible.  Be sure to insulate your heater and fuel 
lines running from one end of the car to the other.  Add a heated fuel filter 
setup from a Peugot diesel near the engine and be sure to filter your oil down 
to at least 5 microns(.5 is better) before use and carry a spare fuel filter.

Cheapest way to go I know of.  Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: LT Don 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)


  I am not buying any kit. The $1800 asking price is about two month's take 
home pay for me -- not realistic.  I don have a mortgage payment, Debbie's car 
payment, utilities, cell phones, etc. to pay for. 

  I do, however, plan to copy their idea and adapt it from "parts" I either 
find or can buy at the local parts store. 


  On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO thing lately and it doesn't 
 have the ring of truth of something that's going to be around for long. I 
applaud you for doing it, and I may try it as well, if I can afford to buy a 
kit (or properly copy one).



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Re: [MBZ] MAC....READ THIS

[Mike Canfield]

Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)Mac,
  Use a blend of 75-80% Filtered WVO and 20% or so of Kerosene to thin the 
oil(I added some gasoline and diesel fuel conditioner to each batch if I had it 
around)Mix it VERY well and dump it in the tank during warm weather.  I put 
SEVERAL thousand miles on that Ole 240D running a blend and it works great with 
NO HEAT.  It cost me a total of around $50 for fuel in that car all of last 
summer.  And I drove it ALOT!
  The 240 runs smoother, quieter, smokes less, runs just as good, if not better 
and smells GREAT when running.  makes ya hungry while driving...LOL.  
The VW's don't have nearly as robust of an injection pump as the Mercedes and 
don't tolerate unheated oil nearly as well.  If you want to be more sure of the 
results buy an inline fuel heater and put it near the injector pump to be sure 
it doesn't get thick oil to the pump.  IT WILL BREAK THE GEAR RIGHT OFF THE END 
OF THE PUMP IF YOU TRY THIS IN COLD WEATHER!
 Before everyone starts yelling at me for suggesting this to Steve.I have 
done this myself with the car that Steve now owns and it does work.  I am not 
suggesting anyone not willing to take a few chances with thier car try this!!

Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve MacSween 
  To: Mercedes mailing list 
  Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)


  Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO thing lately and it doesn't  
have the ring of truth of something that's going to be around for long. I 
applaud you for doing it, and I may try it as well, if I can afford to buy a 
kit (or properly copy one).

  My point is that the petrodollar industry won't stand by and watch it for 
long, if it starts to get too popular. Not in the sense of you or me going to 
the WongWoo and collecting eggroll WVO. But sooner or later someone will start 
small businesses to supply it, maybe even mid-sized regional fuel distributors 
might jump in.

  Can we guess what happens next? Soft words are spoken in private clubs, in 
the shadow of Capitol Hill, or Parliament Hill, need for regulation, need for 
standards, workplace safety issues, horror stories of bad WVO fuel suddenly 
find their way to newsrooms on a slow news week -- blah, blah, blah. Next thing 
you know the EPA finds some way to stick in its snout.

  Please tell me I'm wrong, someone, but I don't see this WVO thing lasting 
long in its current form.

  Plus there are some alarming noises (no pun int) over on one of the VW diesel 
lists of injection pump destruction from running unheated WVO. Honestly I have 
not followed it in detail, seeing as I'm not ready to try it by a long shot.

  Mac

[MBZ] Repeat msgs

[Wilton Strickland]

Why do so many entire posts have to be repeated so many times?

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Knock

[LT Don]

Have you tried running a couple cans of diesel purge thru the injectors? 

On 9/2/05, ANGELO GIAIMO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> OK folks... back to reality.
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

I got a daughter in Dallas, very busy life, however she tends to be helpful.
Don

 On 9/2/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> listers...
> 
> i have an unfolding disaster happening in houston...
> 
> i bought an ebay 450sl in houston from a cheat and a liar...
> 
> after many unsuccessfull weeks of triing to get the car shipped, i sent a
> friend to transport it back to spokane, wa...
> 
> two days ago he picked it up and is still triing to make it roadworthy 
> (long
> and nasty list)...
> 
> today we heard the radiator is bad, and it is still unknown if one is
> available...if not, he will see if it will travel and head for austin
> (things are very tight in houston for lodging, etc)
> 
> it seems that our options are:
> 
> 1. get radiator repair and get on the road (good if can be done today)
> 
> 2. put it on a uhaul (way expensive)
> 
> 3.find someplace to park it and await shipping
> 
> 4.sell it at a loss and wander off with another lesson
> 
> 5. (other choice not discovered)
> 
> so,...anybody in the area have room for a '75 450sl untill a car carrier 
> can
> come fetch it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A PLACE TO TO STAY

[Gabriel S.]

consider*

On 9/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>  should any body need a place to stay
> and can read this i have a 8 bedroom 5 1/2 bath house i live alone and 
> would conciter it a honor to host any family who is suffering from this 
> devastating hurricane 
>  contact me
> Christian, .Muslim,Jewish, strait, gay, black, white, I don't give a damn 
> you will be welcome and made whole
>   we have not forgot about you all
>   mike collins 
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[MBZ] need help!! houston/austin area

[JJJ]

listers...

i have an unfolding disaster happening in houston...

i bought an ebay 450sl in houston from a cheat and a liar...

after many unsuccessfull weeks of triing to get the car shipped, i sent a 
friend to transport it back to spokane, wa...


two days ago he picked it up and is still triing to make it roadworthy (long 
and nasty list)...


today we heard the radiator is bad, and it is still unknown if one is 
available...if not, he will see if it will travel and head for austin 
(things are very tight in houston for lodging, etc)


it seems that our options are:

1. get radiator repair and get on the road (good if can be done today)

2. put it on a uhaul (way expensive)

3.find someplace to park it and await shipping

4.sell it at a loss and wander off with another lesson

5. (other choice not discovered)

so,...anybody in the area have room for a '75 450sl untill a car carrier can 
come fetch it?

[MBZ] (MBZ) Twisted logic Canadians poking fun at Americans

[Fred De Vries]

NOW go back to the gun thread.  Herein  lies the problem with all the 
propaganda re: guns and there "safety".  Everyone should own guns, BIG guns. 
 We live in the best country in the world, our government changed from a 
government of the people and for the people when the  Feds took control of 
the States via interstate highways.  This used to be a country where you had 
the choice to live in whichever state's politics and value system you agreed 
with the most.  The Feds have forgotten the people who live here and entered 
the arena of world control.  Kennedy called for closed borders in the '60's. 
 Of course, look what happened to him.

Bet this sounds like Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy Theory" doesn't it?
Back to Benz.
Anybody displace Southerners need a place to stay for a while and can handle 
the impending Michigan Winter c'mon up.

(Don't worry about bringing a gun!)  :)

FRED DE VRIES

[MBZ] Diesel Knock

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

OK folks... back to reality.

Started my 1990 350SDL with 245K miles on it a few days ago and it seems to
have developed an intermittent miss in the engine (about every 4 to 10
seconds between episodes).  Once the car has warmed up (~80C, 5 minutes or
so) it goes away and runs as smooth as a kitten.for a diesel, that is.

My guess it's a glow plug, but the glow plug light is acting normally.
Could I still have a bad one?  Anything else to check?

Thanks, guys.

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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[LT Don]

Hey, you'ze guys want to take this WVO/biodiesel chatter over to the new 
list where it belongs? You are taking up bandwidth intended for Jabba's gun 
seminars.

Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

because Im not sure how good just burning the oil is for your engine.

Christopher McCann wrote:


Would you rather:
1. make/Buy and install a kit once and then simply
collect and filter oil OR
2. make/buy a reactor once, collect and filter oil AND
have to make the BioD now till the end of time
(METHANOL, whatever hydroxide (more on going expense
rather than all sunk costs with VOmoney), scrubbing
the stuff, de-watering, then viton lines if you use
too much methanol and then an insane asylum if you
spill the methanol on yourself. ANd then glycerine
laced with methanol (oh boy, really want to wash with
THAT!)

Do what you want, but for me, I'd rather leave BioD
manufactiure to Chevron.

CM




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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[OK Don]

Use ethanol instead of methanol - less risk, more fun.

On 9/2/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would you rather:
> 1. make/Buy and install a kit once and then simply
> collect and filter oil OR
> 2. make/buy a reactor once, collect and filter oil AND
> have to make the BioD now till the end of time
> (METHANOL, whatever hydroxide (more on going expense
> rather than all sunk costs with VOmoney), scrubbing
> the stuff, de-watering, then viton lines if you use
> too much methanol and then an insane asylum if you
> spill the methanol on yourself. ANd then glycerine
> laced with methanol (oh boy, really want to wash with
> THAT!)
> 
> Do what you want, but for me, I'd rather leave BioD
> manufactiure to Chevron.
> 
> CM

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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Christopher McCann]

will look into that. local laws may vary.

CM

--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The only problem is that there are codes and
> regulations in place that 
> require them to have a pickup service.
> 
> Christopher McCann wrote:
> > my understanding is that once waste oil hits the
> > dumpster, it belongs to the co. that picks it
> > up...which is why we have planned all along to
> find
> > restaurants with whom we would agree to take all
> their
> > WVO, then they can cancel the regular pick up
> service
> > adn save some money too.
> > 
> > CM
> > 


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-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Christopher McCann]

Would you rather:
1. make/Buy and install a kit once and then simply
collect and filter oil OR
2. make/buy a reactor once, collect and filter oil AND
have to make the BioD now till the end of time
(METHANOL, whatever hydroxide (more on going expense
rather than all sunk costs with VOmoney), scrubbing
the stuff, de-watering, then viton lines if you use
too much methanol and then an insane asylum if you
spill the methanol on yourself. ANd then glycerine
laced with methanol (oh boy, really want to wash with
THAT!)

Do what you want, but for me, I'd rather leave BioD
manufactiure to Chevron.

CM


--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why dont you just forget burning the WVO and make
> biodiesel out of it? 
> Or are you talking about a tank for making the
> biodiesel?
> 


Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
-1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"

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***I'm back from my cruise...can you put me back on the list???

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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The only problem is that there are codes and regulations in place that 
require them to have a pickup service.


Christopher McCann wrote:

my understanding is that once waste oil hits the
dumpster, it belongs to the co. that picks it
up...which is why we have planned all along to find
restaurants with whom we would agree to take all their
WVO, then they can cancel the regular pick up service
adn save some money too.

CM

--- Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



Well, I actually forgot to mention the first and
most obvious problem I
foresee... the WVO recyclers/renderers will probably
modify their agreements
with restaurants to preclude any WVO being given to
anyone else. Period.

This is where I see the regional fuel suppliers
could come in. Perhaps they
would either strike a deal with the WVO processors,
OR possibly would start
doing their own pickup services.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I agree with you.

And no, Im not sure I fully trust running just


straigh WVO thru a system


without going all out to produce real biodiesel.

Steve MacSween wrote:



Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO


thing lately and it


doesn't  have the ring of truth of something


that's going to be around


for long. I applaud you for doing it, and I may


try it as well, if I can


afford to buy a kit (or properly copy one).

My point is that the petrodollar industry won't


stand by and watch it


for long, if it starts to get too popular. Not in


the sense of you or me


going to the WongWoo and collecting eggroll WVO.


But sooner or later


someone will start small businesses to supply it,


maybe even mid-sized


regional fuel distributors might jump in.

Can we guess what happens next? Soft words are


spoken in private clubs,


in the shadow of Capitol Hill, or Parliament


Hill, need for regulation,


need for standards, workplace safety issues,


horror stories of bad WVO


fuel suddenly find their way to newsrooms on a


slow news week -- blah,


blah, blah. Next thing you know the EPA finds


some way to stick in its


snout.

Please tell me I'm wrong, someone, but I don't


see this WVO thing


lasting long in its current form.

Plus there are some alarming noises (no pun int)


over on one of the VW


diesel lists of injection pump destruction from


running unheated WVO.


Honestly I have not followed it in detail, seeing


as I'm not ready to


try it by a long shot.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You are preaching to a guy who is about to carry


home WVO in 5


gallon buckets?

On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween <


[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 > wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   


wrote:


yes, these neurotic leftest environmentalists


are whats


causing our


major energy problems today.  Without that crap


we would be


building


more nukes, more refineries, drilling for more


oil, then we


wouldnt be


in this mess.


Lt Don, this may come as a surprise but from time


to time Kaleb


shows a
remarkable dexterity in the use of irony in his


replies.


What he is trying to say has to do with Peak Oil.


Google it


(everyone,
please do, not just Don) and then come back and


debate it with


him/us.

The short answer is, we should have been well


into ramping down our


dependence on petrochemicals as a basis for our


economy by 2000.


Not only
have we failed to do so, or to even recognize the


problem (such


as how many
consumer goods depend on it for their


manufacture, not to


mention how we
transport almost everything on this continent),


but now the


Chinese and to a
lesser extent India, have thrown a wrench into an


already wobbly


machine by
their economic expansion and increasing demands.

Remember to read the credentials of the guys you


find writing on


peak oil.
These are not Greenpeace geeks living in an


unheated flat


outside of London
or something, these are people inside the oil


industry.


Mac


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Re: [MBZ] Weight of soy oil

[Royce Engler]

LT Don said...
  I didn't date much in high school either, but that was because I was a
band geek.


  I think the term we used for you guys was BQ

  Royce  - who dated a lot in high school, but became rather celibate for a
while at USNA...back in the days before midshipwomen.

Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Christopher McCann]

my understanding is that once waste oil hits the
dumpster, it belongs to the co. that picks it
up...which is why we have planned all along to find
restaurants with whom we would agree to take all their
WVO, then they can cancel the regular pick up service
adn save some money too.

CM

--- Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Well, I actually forgot to mention the first and
> most obvious problem I
> foresee... the WVO recyclers/renderers will probably
> modify their agreements
> with restaurants to preclude any WVO being given to
> anyone else. Period.
> 
> This is where I see the regional fuel suppliers
> could come in. Perhaps they
> would either strike a deal with the WVO processors,
> OR possibly would start
> doing their own pickup services.
> 
> Mac
> 
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I agree with you.
> > 
> > And no, Im not sure I fully trust running just
> straigh WVO thru a system
> > without going all out to produce real biodiesel.
> > 
> > Steve MacSween wrote:
> > 
> >> Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO
> thing lately and it
> >> doesn't  have the ring of truth of something
> that's going to be around
> >> for long. I applaud you for doing it, and I may
> try it as well, if I can
> >> afford to buy a kit (or properly copy one).
> >> 
> >> My point is that the petrodollar industry won't
> stand by and watch it
> >> for long, if it starts to get too popular. Not in
> the sense of you or me
> >> going to the WongWoo and collecting eggroll WVO.
> But sooner or later
> >> someone will start small businesses to supply it,
> maybe even mid-sized
> >> regional fuel distributors might jump in.
> >> 
> >> Can we guess what happens next? Soft words are
> spoken in private clubs,
> >> in the shadow of Capitol Hill, or Parliament
> Hill, need for regulation,
> >> need for standards, workplace safety issues,
> horror stories of bad WVO
> >> fuel suddenly find their way to newsrooms on a
> slow news week -- blah,
> >> blah, blah. Next thing you know the EPA finds
> some way to stick in its
> >> snout.
> >> 
> >> Please tell me I'm wrong, someone, but I don't
> see this WVO thing
> >> lasting long in its current form.
> >> 
> >> Plus there are some alarming noises (no pun int)
> over on one of the VW
> >> diesel lists of injection pump destruction from
> running unheated WVO.
> >> Honestly I have not followed it in detail, seeing
> as I'm not ready to
> >> try it by a long shot.
> >> 
> >> Mac
> >> 
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >> You are preaching to a guy who is about to carry
> home WVO in 5
> >> gallon buckets?
> >> 
> >> On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  > wrote:
> >> 
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> yes, these neurotic leftest environmentalists
> are whats
> >> causing our
> >>> major energy problems today.  Without that crap
> we would be
> >> building
> >>> more nukes, more refineries, drilling for more
> oil, then we
> >> wouldnt be
> >>> in this mess.
> >> 
> >> Lt Don, this may come as a surprise but from time
> to time Kaleb
> >> shows a
> >> remarkable dexterity in the use of irony in his
> replies.
> >> 
> >> What he is trying to say has to do with Peak Oil.
> Google it
> >> (everyone,
> >> please do, not just Don) and then come back and
> debate it with
> >> him/us.
> >> 
> >> The short answer is, we should have been well
> into ramping down our
> >> dependence on petrochemicals as a basis for our
> economy by 2000.
> >> Not only
> >> have we failed to do so, or to even recognize the
> problem (such
> >> as how many
> >> consumer goods depend on it for their
> manufacture, not to
> >> mention how we
> >> transport almost everything on this continent),
> but now the
> >> Chinese and to a
> >> lesser extent India, have thrown a wrench into an
> already wobbly
> >> machine by
> >> their economic expansion and increasing demands.
> >> 
> >> Remember to read the credentials of the guys you
> find writing on
> >> peak oil.
> >> These are not Greenpeace geeks living in an
> unheated flat
> >> outside of London
> >> or something, these are people inside the oil
> industry.
> >> 
> >> Mac
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Christopher McCann]

there are cheaper kits:

www.greasecar.com
www.greasel.com

or you can study them all and make your own.

CM

--- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am not buying any kit. The $1800 asking price is
> about two month's take 
> home pay for me -- not realistic. I don have a
> mortgage payment, Debbie's 
> car payment, utilities, cell phones, etc. to pay
> for. 
> 
> I do, however, plan to copy their idea and adapt it
> from "parts" I either 
> find or can buy at the local parts store. 
> 
> On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO
> thing lately and it 
> > doesn't have the ring of truth of something that's
> going to be around for 
> > long. I applaud you for doing it, and I may try it
> as well, if I can afford 
> > to buy a kit (or properly copy one).
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Christopher McCann]

yep and electronic fuel injection.

CM

--- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Harry  M.) wrote:
> > Seem to recall though there was one very desirable
> model called the cosworth vega. 
> 
> Expensive anyway. 16 valve heads were pretty exotic
> things in 1975.
> Seems like it had no bottom end torque, but could
> really rev.
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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Christopher McCann]

My editor has a Cosworth Vega - there is a sizeable
Cosworth Vega following. I think only 4,000 or so were
made over two years.

CM

--- Harry  M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh man, I was hoping I read that right. Guess I
> shouldn't be embarresed to say I owned a Vega. Seem
> to recall though there was one very desirable model
> called the cosworth vega. Ah yes, the ford trilogy
> of "geek mobiles" the pinto 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Reality

[OK Don]

Pastafarian "fish" is a --  hairy clam?
http://www.cafepress.com/venganza/



On 9/1/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darwin fish as feet, Evolve fish has feet and hands holding a wrench.
> 
> http://www.evolvefish.com
> 
> I have an Evolve fish on my old Buick.
> 
> Tim
> 1982 300TD Moby

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Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yes, the peak oil problem is real.  In the mean time though, we still 
need more refineries, more nukes, less BS with fuel regulations etc.


OK Don wrote:


I thought you were in on the peak oil theory - there isn't anything
you can do other than use less of the stuff so it doesn't run out so
fast.

We're still arguing over what to do with the nuke waste we've already
generated - and you want more? Bury the waste in your backyard???

Nope - we've got to stop wasting energy, finding/using other sources,
and be willing to pay for what we do use.

On 9/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


yes, these neurotic leftest environmentalists are whats causing our
major energy problems today.  Without that crap we would be building
more nukes, more refineries, drilling for more oil, then we wouldnt be
in this mess.





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Re: [MBZ] US vs. Canada Gasoline Prices

[OK Don]

I thought you were in on the peak oil theory - there isn't anything
you can do other than use less of the stuff so it doesn't run out so
fast.

We're still arguing over what to do with the nuke waste we've already
generated - and you want more? Bury the waste in your backyard???

Nope - we've got to stop wasting energy, finding/using other sources,
and be willing to pay for what we do use.

On 9/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes, these neurotic leftest environmentalists are whats causing our
> major energy problems today.  Without that crap we would be building
> more nukes, more refineries, drilling for more oil, then we wouldnt be
> in this mess.

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'81 240D
'78 450SLC
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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Mitch Haley]

Harry  M.) wrote:
> Seem to recall though there was one very desirable model called the cosworth 
> vega. 

Expensive anyway. 16 valve heads were pretty exotic things in 1975.
Seems like it had no bottom end torque, but could really rev.

Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[LT Don]

A quick WVO experiment then start making biodiesel, probably. I could later 
use the second tank to extend driving range without having to purchase #3. 

On 9/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Why dont you just forget burning the WVO and make biodiesel out of it?
> Or are you talking about a tank for making the biodiesel?
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Steve MacSween wrote:


Um, geez, Kleb, why am I sweating all of a sudden?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




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Re: [MBZ] Note to Lt. Don + Peak Oil (was Re: US vs. Canada)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Why dont you just forget burning the WVO and make biodiesel out of it? 
Or are you talking about a tank for making the biodiesel?


Steve MacSween wrote:

Yes, sort of my situation as well. Actually the tank seems to be the 
biggest challenge, yes? I mean for a decent one and I cannot think of 
anything 'post-consumer' that might be adapted.


Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am not buying any kit. The $1800 asking price is about two month's
take home pay for me -- not realistic.  I don have a mortgage
payment, Debbie's car payment, utilities, cell phones, etc. to pay for.

I do, however, plan to copy their idea and adapt it from "parts" I
either find or can buy at the local parts store.

On 9/1/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Not preaching. But I've been looking at the WVO thing lately and
it doesn't  have the ring of truth of something that's going to
be around for long. I applaud you for doing it, and I may try it
as well, if I can afford to buy a kit (or properly copy one).







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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Harry M.]

Oh man, I was hoping I read that right. Guess I shouldn't be embarresed to say 
I owned a Vega. Seem to recall though there was one very desirable model called 
the cosworth vega. Ah yes, the ford trilogy of "geek mobiles" the pinto 


Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Well, for $200 4 years ago, we couldn't pass it up!  That lead to a $500
>Mercury Bobcat, another $100 parts car and a nice $1000 1980 Pinto wagon
>with 80K original miles.  Looking back, it was  kind of like buying a nice
>240D with 300K on it.  We sold them wen I found the first 300D, and the rest
>is HISTORY!
>
>OMG, I seem to recall they were evil little cars on the road, tho. At least
>the Vega had some semblance of road manners, albeit crude ones (though
>someone told me later the sportier models were respectable on twisty roads).
>
>Mac 
>


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Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Marshall wrote:

> Fmiser wrote:
> > Sorry to post an off topic question. It's about a Mercedes, not guns,
> > hard-drives, gmail, or dogs. *grin*
> > 
> > This is on a W123 240D, OM616.


> > Rack is at "full throttle", shut-off vacuum is disconnected.
> > 
> > Anything else that I'm missing? Or am I just having bad luck??
> > 
> > Philip, timing chain expert
> 
> You DID remove the #1 delivery valve - RIGHT? Then the drip (as long as 
> you keep the IP filled with the hand pump)) or the bubble method both 
> work JUST fine.
> 
> Marshall

Yes.

 My copy of the email that describes the "bubble" method didn't mention
if the delivery valve shoud be removed or not - so I tried it both ways.
But I didn't get _any_ bubbles most of the time. One of the 5-6 times I
tried I got one, lone bubble at 10 deg ATDC (yes, _after_ TDC). Am I
supposed to operate the primer pump like with the drip method?

Easley method didn't work any better. Again I tried it with and without
the delivery valve because it wasn't mentioned in the text. It seems
that the valve should be left in. With the valve in it didn't seem to
"well up" consistantly. 35 deg BTDC to 0 deg TDC was the range I saw.
With the valve removed, it just drooled fuel.

I finally got repeatable results with the drip method. Kinda messy, and
I didn't use a stop-watch to measure the drip rate, so I could still be
off a bit.

Anyway, the engine runs, is much smoother and smokes less at idle, and
seems to have a bit more power.

In retrospect, I'm not sure it was worth two timing chains and the many,
many hours I spent on it - but of course that's all in hind-sight!!
*sigh*

 Philip, now with black stains under his fingernails

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[MBZ] OT: Darwin Fish WAS Reality

[John Robbins]

If we could turn those into grille badges.   


TimothyPilgrim wrote:


Darwin fish as feet, Evolve fish has feet and hands holding a wrench.

http://www.evolvefish.com

I have an Evolve fish on my old Buick.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 9/1/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Same as the bare fish logo, but with feet.  Some have DARWIN on the
inside

On Thursday, September 1, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote:

   


I am afraid to ask; but what does the Darwin fish look like. Inquiring
minds and all that...

 

Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, for $200 4 years ago, we couldn't pass it up!  That lead to a $500
Mercury Bobcat, another $100 parts car and a nice $1000 1980 Pinto wagon
with 80K original miles.  Looking back, it was  kind of like buying a nice
240D with 300K on it.  We sold them wen I found the first 300D, and the rest
is HISTORY!

OMG, I seem to recall they were evil little cars on the road, tho. At least
the Vega had some semblance of road manners, albeit crude ones (though
someone told me later the sportier models were respectable on twisty roads).

Mac 

Re: [MBZ] Weight of soy oil

[LT Don]

Too much knowledge of math. 

I should add that my son (now happily married) was a math geek in high 
school -- Thomas Jefferson High School of Science and Technology, went on to 
get a Master's out of Virginia Tech (TJ was a feeder school for Tech) and is 
married to a "make you drool" redhead who majored in math at VaTech. 

Those who end up making the big bucks didn't date much in high school -- 
they were way too smart to have their heads turned by girls who'd end up 
working at Wendys for a career.

I didn't date much in high school either, but that was because I was a band 
geek. 

Don


On 9/1/05, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 22:55:22 -0500 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > You didn't date much in high school, did you Craig?
> 
> U ... why do you ask?
> 
> 
> Craig
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