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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog 411.118 4X4 60 in wheelbase

i hear that one!

On 10/3/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Run over PeTA punks with their stupid posters

 At 09:11 AM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
 What do you do with this ungainly beast?


 BTW, around here PETA means people for eating tasty animals!


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Re: [MBZ] i actually have an oil question

2005-10-04 Thread Steve MacSween

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 redline, however, seems to recommend
 against using hte 20W-50 in ordinary street cars and recommends the
 10W-30.  any thoughts?

Look at the rating to make sure it's proper spec for the car you want to use
it in. Also look at the product spec data, which should include the pour
point. If the pour point is at or near the lowest temperature you are likely
to experience, then don't risk it.

I know that AMSOIL has a 20w50 that is advertised as a 'leave-in'  heavy
weight synthetic for four-season use, but OTOH (IIRC, etc) heavier weights
of Mobil 1 are not suitable for year-round use.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread Steve MacSween

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I personally hate the W124 it is small and uncomfortable. One of my main
 dislikes about the W124 is the door panel where it meets the window, it is
 very uncomfortable to put your elbow on, in fact it was the main reason I
 got rid of my 87 300D.

Well, I would counter that that is a relative issue as if you were to sit in
a w201 and then get into a w124, you'd think you had stepped into a much
larger car for sure.

The later w124s that I have driven seem to have a more substantial 'feel' to
them, maybe that was my imagination. But in terms of handling and
convenience, for anyone in an urban environment the w124 is much easier to
live with. For example, where I live you can barely fit a w124 into the
'new' parking meter spaces on downtown streets. When you drive a w126, you
have to search around for the end space on the block (or on either side of a
hydrant or driveway) to let the car hang way over the white line

Just another $0.02,

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[MBZ] 190D stick


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Re: [MBZ] i actually have an oil question

2005-10-04 Thread Marshall Booth


Steve MacSween wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



redline, however, seems to recommend
against using hte 20W-50 in ordinary street cars and recommends the
10W-30.  any thoughts?



Look at the rating to make sure it's proper spec for the car you want to use
it in. Also look at the product spec data, which should include the pour
point. If the pour point is at or near the lowest temperature you are likely
to experience, then don't risk it.

I know that AMSOIL has a 20w50 that is advertised as a 'leave-in'  heavy
weight synthetic for four-season use, but OTOH (IIRC, etc) heavier weights
of Mobil 1 are not suitable for year-round use.


Many Mercedes owners in the northern US have been using Mobil 1 15W-50 
year round. It has a lower pour point than MOST 5W-20 conventional oils! 
My 190D 2.0 starts fine at 15 below zero (F) without a block heater.


I'd NOW prefer M-1 TSUV 5W-40, but 15W-50 works fine. The late Randy 
Durrance recommended M-1 15W-50 and used it in his cars year round in 
Wisconsin.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] FORTY CENT Diesel price jump today here!

2005-10-04 Thread redghost


Kevin,
last time I was down, there was one in Vancouver around Chaklov on Mill 
Plain. Has been there for at least 6 years.   May have gone out of 
business and been taken over by not In  Out, but same building pushing 
burgers looking like an espresso stand.


On Monday, October 3, 2005, at 01:20 PM, Kevin wrote:


On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 12:34:09PM -0700, Zeitgeist wrote:

Hmmm, wonder if the Kum and Go chain is related to the In n' Out
Burger chain of fast food restaurants?  Perfect synergy, that...
http://www.in-n-out.com


Actually, In-N-Out is one of the few fast food places I'll stop at. 
There

isn't one too close to me, but I see them on the road a lot.

A friend of mine in snohomish lives for in-n-out, and is always looking
for excuses to drive to redding, apparently the closest one to 
washington.


K

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[MBZ] euro 230CE


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[MBZ] overpriced rebuilt 240D engine


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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread Loren Faeth


Snookie,

The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124.  It is the 
last of the hand-built cars.  Since your question concerns rear seat room, 
get an SEL or an SDL.  That extra room is awesome.  The 124 is more 
economical, and reportedly handles better.  The SDL is head and shoulders 
above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate cruising.  I 
drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful.  Hursty compared 
it to a lincoln, and it is not.  A lincoln is a barge.  A 126 may not be as 
spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size.  You 
need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74.  The 126 was 
probably designed about 78 or so.  They are still beautiful cars today, and 
don't look outdated.  My business partner drives a lincoln.  I let him 
drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it.  He 
noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln.


Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126.  no question.  I think you 
should keep the 90 124 also.  They are hard to come by!   Start a collection!



At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:

I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet
you can't guess which one I am considering).   Anyway, I have never had
one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one
has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124.  I think the 124
is such a huge improvement over the 123.



 I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great
looking.  But,  I think I need more room especially when I have people
in the back seat.  What are the pros and cons of each car?



Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

I like them both - I should have one of each -- maybe a 201 also --
can't have enough Diesel Benzs - well maybe Kaleb has enough, but I
don't know of anyone else!

On 10/3/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I would counter that that is a relative issue as if you were to sit in
 a w201 and then get into a w124, you'd think you had stepped into a much
 larger car for sure.

 The later w124s that I have driven seem to have a more substantial 'feel' to
 them, maybe that was my imagination. But in terms of handling and
 convenience, for anyone in an urban environment the w124 is much easier to
 live with. For example, where I live you can barely fit a w124 into the
 'new' parking meter spaces on downtown streets. When you drive a w126, you
 have to search around for the end space on the block (or on either side of a
 hydrant or driveway) to let the car hang way over the white line

 Just another $0.02,

 Mac


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Re: [MBZ] 190D stick

50MPG...do those cars really get that good mileage?

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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog and Aussie Farmers v Peta geniuses

2005-10-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen


Hi Andrew,

You go out and plough the fields with it or go extreme off roading(with 25 
hp.woppee).
The reason the gearshifter is long is to give you something to hold onto 
when she tips over after attempting to go up a vertical incline. Then again 
the difference between men and boys is the length of the gear stick.
Or perhaps it is removable, in which case it would come in handy in case the 
peta greenies are still breathing after being run over(I'll apologize for 
that remark in advance).
BTW in case any of you where wondering the reason we mutilate our sheep 
over here is to stop them becoming flyblown. What is flyblown you city folks 
are wondering? Flyblown is when flies lay their eggs(which turn into 
maggots) around the sheep's behind, which leads to a rather slow painful 
death for the sheep involved(if not treated in time). Think thousands of 
maggots eating you alive.
Mulesing is the practise of removing part of the folds around the sheep's 
behind to discourage flies from laying eggs(remember sheep do have trouble 
wiping their bottoms after going potty, this is where the term daggy comes 
from).
Also consider that over here some sheep stations are measured in square 
kilometres and it is unreal to expect a Farmer to check his sheep every 
second day for maggot infestation.
Actually that is all a lie, our Farmers are all a bunch of sadistic brutes 
who enjoy spending money on getting their flock mutilated(well, that is what 
the animal rights activist say anyway).


Hendrik
with a long gear stick(in the mog of course) and has seen flyblown sheep(not 
nice)


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What do you do with this ungainly beast? Why is the gearshifter so long?

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Re: [MBZ] 190D stick


uh, no

Gabriel S. wrote:


50MPG...do those cars really get that good mileage?

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Re: [MBZ] 190D stick

2005-10-04 Thread Ron Dwelle

No, but at least the seller showed a few photos of some of the rust on  
the car.


Ron Dwelle

On Oct 3, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Gabriel S. wrote:

50MPG...do those cars really get that good mileage?

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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread redghost

From the few hours that I was able to actually drive the w126 LWB, I 
thought it was a superb car and wanted that model just for the leg 
room.  It was a pleasure on the highway, but a slug in town.  I was 
trying to get from Dallas to SEA in three days solo, and the first day 
was going to make it a joy to cruise home.  then it blew up, Kaleb 
offered me $500


Got a W124 E300D for the wife.  She loves it to death.  I think it is a 
mini me for the SDL.  Same finish and feel, but smaller and faster.  
Drove it across the USA last summer.  I was really wanting that extra 
room from the SDL.  Not as comfort inducing like the SDL for long days 
on the road.  Lots better mileage.


On Monday, October 3, 2005, at 01:57 PM, Nick Gough wrote:



I own both a W126.125 (1986 300SDL) and a W124 (1993 300E 2.8). Both 
are terrific cars.




I like the performance, handling, economy (30mpg on the road), simple 
design, reliability, style and comfort of the W124. I have no problem 
with the elbow on the window sill, can put the seat back far enough to 
cause me to have troubles in reaching the firewall (I'm 6'6 tall), 
have gobs of headroom and can put the seat far enough forward and 
still be comfy and have legroom in the rear seat for long trips. The 
W124 is comfy on the open road, very solidly built, not a fussy car 
and definitely not tinny.




The W126 car (300SDL) is an awesome, long-legged highway cruiser with 
all of the comfort you could ever expect in a limo. Comfort in the 
sense of having gobs of rear seat legroom (an additional 5.5 over a 
normal, non L based S-class) and a smooth ride. The front seat could 
be more comfy for me, the driver, as far as legroom is concerned, but 
it is a great road car. It may be slow in reaching 100mph, but once 
there, can effortlessly cruise there all day long, or as long as the 
23 gallon tank can get you. I can get about 30mpg on the open road in 
this car, as well. It is not that speedy going up a hill with a full 
load and A/C on, but on the flats it has enough power to pass without 
a problem. It is a 4000 lb car with only 148 hp, so expect it to be 
slower than a W124. It is a very simple car, mechanically and 
electrically, and does not have McPherson struts on the front. The 
diesel engine is solid with very few, if any, problems and can last a 
very long time without major problems.

 It is not a tinny car, either.



Each of these cars are much safer than one would imagine at first 
glance, although you would expect a large S-class car to be like 
riding in a tank, which is not too far off of the mark. :)




Someday, I'll be selling the 300SDL, but I've decided to keep it for 
now, fixing it up, keeping it in better shape and then sell it when I 
eventually get a new C230 sedan (the 2006+ model).




Each of these diesel engined cars (if you have a W124 300D) are 
appreciating in value like crazy, so keeping them is cool and buying 
one now is also cool, since you will be getting an economical, safe, 
comfy car that is reliable to boot.




Good Luck.





Nick Gough

86 300SDL 169k miles

93 300E 2.8 127k miles (?? can't remember... :)


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Re: [MBZ] 190D stick

2005-10-04 Thread Kevin

On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 05:15:57PM -0700, Gabriel S. wrote:
 50MPG...do those cars really get that good mileage?

No. The euro 2.0 comes close only on the highway and only if you keep your
foot way out of it. 

My 2.2 five speed was good for 40.

K

Re: [MBZ] 190D stick

2005-10-04 Thread Marshall Booth


Gabriel S. wrote:

50MPG...do those cars really get that good mileage?


A US version 190D 2.2, 5 spd will deliver an honest 40 mpg on the 
highway - NOT 50. A Euro 2.0 can do 45 mpg. I've owned both and driven 
them almost 200kmi!


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] euro 230CE

2005-10-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen


What a rust bucket.

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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread JJJ

i've had two 126's...mexico don's high mileage '82 380sel, and the current 
'86 sdl...both horribly slow from a stopped start (i miss the raw power of 
an american V8)...but the 126 is large and classy, and on the road above 
50mph, very powerfull and responsive...i put new shocks on the sdl and kick 
myself for not using the bilstein sporty ones...i'd actually like to have a 
really good spare 126 for my next car...what great used cars for under 6k!

Re: [MBZ] 190D stick

2005-10-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen


Yes they do.
If you sit about 2 inches from the rear of a large truck going downhill.

Hendrik

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D stick



uh, no

Gabriel S. wrote:


50MPG...do those cars really get that good mileage?

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[MBZ] Brass Nuts

2005-10-04 Thread frederick w moir


Hi, All.
	To the Lister who has lost his brass nuts, parallel glow plug type that 
is, I have an harness around here somewhere (with attached nuts) and I'll 
cut a couple off for you. (Could NOT resist!).

Name and address?
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

[MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready

2005-10-04 Thread Van Cleve

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:57:16 -0400
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Kevin wrote:
 There was something about a weak timing cover in the cummins,
 can't remember if it was on the 24v engines or the 12v engines.

All I can remember is the killer dowel pin, which was fixed somewhere
around 1996-1998 IIRC.

I think it wasn't a problem after 1998

I'm a new Dodge/Cumming Truck owner but I learned real quick that MY truck 
was a possible candidate for the KDP . The killer dowl pin is in the 
block and is for aliening   the timing case. Allot have fallen OUT , best 
case scenario, cracked timing case, worst case gets ugly and expensive 
:'(.  I had mine taken care of by a big rig shop owner, friend. he 
charged my $200,  which I think is good :-)  I wasn't ready to dig into 
that Cummins, YET  its allot different than my little 240Ds.  Heres a good 
place to start for Dodge/Cummins info and theres are more. 
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/or for bio 
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x/a/frm/f/415106403.  Allot of chit 
chat over there is about the dreaded KDP,  Sigh, I dont have nightmares 
anymore :-)

Regards   Steve Van Cleve
Marrowstone Isl Wa

85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K
79 240D 5spd  fresh tranny transplan
82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon
94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
.

Re: [MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready

2005-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley

Van Cleve wrote:
  I had mine taken care of by a big rig shop owner, friend. he
 charged my $200,  which I think is good :-) 

What did you get for $200, cover removal and a tab bolted over
the pin, or drill the cover and run a bolt up against the pin?
Either way, you did OK given the labor time involved. 

Do they still arrange KDP parties where a dozen guys get together,
rip the front ends off their trucks, and do the drillbolt routine
with a jig to place the drilled hole? (then they sit around, eat
brats and drink beer)

Re: [MBZ] audi nut

2005-10-04 Thread Tjohn

I remember the guy. I used to subscribe to the 108 list even though I never
have owned one because I wanted to buy the know my stuff in case the right
along. There was an insanely long thread there about how his 280 4.5 could
do 150 mph. I'm pretty sure his name was Shane.

Tjohn
82 300 SD 225K

On 10/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do remember that he called himself the quattro king? Ring any bells? He
 was also a benz owner which I guess the reason he was on the list. I used to
 be a a Audi owner, what I had was a quattro coupe with a turbo 5 cyl and
 sadly it was destroyed by a drunk ass in a pickup. I think he was on the
 list when it was mbz.org http://mbz.org and didn't subscribe after the
 list changed. oh well was just curious

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Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready

2005-10-04 Thread Jim Beidle


Hi David;

The 2000 Cummins engine is probably going to be louder than any later 
model trucks. It is a 2nd Generation 24-Valve 6 Cylinder in line engine. 
Most of the noise in older diesels comes from the mechanical injection 
pump. Modern trucks, such as the Ford/Navstar Chevy/Isuzu and 3rd Gen 
Cummins use a different fuel delivery system called Common Rail. These 
are electronically fired injectors, so much less noise. I'm not sure 
about whether that engine uses return lines at all, but I suspect not. 
My 12V Cummins has no return lines. You can learn more about this 
specific engine at http://www.turbodieselregister.com/.


Regards,

Jim Beidle

David Goldsmith wrote:


Hi, folks!  Wife and I are on the verge of buying an
'00 Dodge 2500 diesel to run on biodiesel.  My main
concern, given my history, is with fuel injector
return lines.  On examining the engine, I noted that
the injectors appear to be inside the engine block, or
at least not have return lines.  Which of these is in
fact the case?  If the injectors are inside the block,
do they have return lines, and if so, are they made of
rubber, metal, or what?  If made of non-Viton rubber,
how difficult is it to get at them to replace them? 
Are there any other biodiesel-related issues

particular to Cummins diesels of this era of which we
should be aware?

Also, the engine was louder than we expected (and
we've heard other diesels, including other diesel
pick-ups which we've test driven, but all these were
Fords) but otherwise seemed to run smoothly; could
that be cause for concern?

Finally, about when do these vehicles need the timing
belt replaced, and about how expensive a service is
that (parts and labor)?

Sorry to bother you, and thanks!

DG



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Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread David Brodbeck

Christopher McCann wrote:
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc
 
 If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know what that
 means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be cheaper
 than the pump at that point.

Maybe not.  The farmers who cultivate the soybeans and the railroads and
truckers who distribute them will be buying the expensive diesel, too.
  I expect this will result in inflation all over the economy.

Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread LT Don

You have NO idea how serious this is in farm country. Fortunately, about 80%
of the crops are already in but they still have to be trucked to the coop.

Plus, most of the serious farmers have in-ground tanks at their farms and
stockpiled lots of #2 when the price was down for a while. This isn't a
guess but instead is what the farmers have told me first-hand. Talked to a
farmer last week who installed a kick-butt above-ground diesel tank two
weeks ago just for this reason.

Don
Iowa

On 10/4/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Maybe not. The farmers who cultivate the soybeans and the railroads and
 truckers who distribute them will be buying the expensive diesel, too.


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Re: [MBZ] Brass Nuts

2005-10-04 Thread LT Don

That is a subject line just begging for a Mercedes-unacceptable response!
:-)

On 10/4/05, frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, All.
 To the Lister who has lost his brass nuts, parallel glow plug type that
 is, I have an harness around here somewhere (with attached nuts) and I'll
 cut a couple off for you. (Could NOT resist!).
 Name and address?
 TTFN
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA



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Re: [MBZ] Brass Nuts

2005-10-04 Thread David Brodbeck

LT Don wrote:
 That is a subject line just begging for a Mercedes-unacceptable response!
 :-)

I found the comment about cutting them off really disturbing! ;)

 
 On 10/4/05, frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hi, All.
To the Lister who has lost his brass nuts, parallel glow plug type that
is, I have an harness around here somewhere (with attached nuts) and I'll
cut a couple off for you. (Could NOT resist!).
Name and address?
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Re: [MBZ] 190D stick

2005-10-04 Thread Rory

Dang bidding went from $1500 to $3000 that was stupid!

On 10/3/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes they do.
 If you sit about 2 inches from the rear of a large truck going downhill.

 Hendrik

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  50MPG...do those cars really get that good mileage?
 
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Re: [MBZ] 190 gearing

2005-10-04 Thread Rory

Hey Marshall, what makes the 5sp so rare here in the states?
Also I was looking at the 84' 190D that was posted here from eBay but
the price really started to get a little wild and with 5 days left.

Rory

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 Mitch Haley wrote:
  What are the tranny and final drive ratios on a 1991 190E 2.6 manny?
  What are the odds of bolting the tranny  flywheel to a 190D 2.5 turbo
  engine?
  BTW, what are the final drive ratios on the stick shift 190 diesels?

 The manual 201.029 (190E 2.6 manual, US version) had a 3.27 rear (at
 least in the late '80s - I don't have data on '90s 201s). Other 201s
 with manual 5 speed transmissions had 3.07, 3.23 and 3.42 rears. All of
 these cars (unlike the 190E-16V with 1.00:1 5ths) had 5th gear ratios of
 between 0.84:1 and 0.78:1.

 The flywheel and transmission SHOULD fit, but they are even more rare in
 the US than 190D 2.5, 5 speeds (and THEY are rare).

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Re: [MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready

2005-10-04 Thread Rory

Hey Mitch, thats how I had my truck done. A big killer dowell pin
party in Palmdale, Ca. Did the drill and tap method, that was 115k
miles ago. We did eat few burgers and dogs and slammed down some brew
afterward.
It was a fun and learning event.

Rory
97 3500 CTD 300HP

On 10/3/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Van Cleve wrote:
   I had mine taken care of by a big rig shop owner, friend. he
  charged my $200,  which I think is good :-)

 What did you get for $200, cover removal and a tab bolted over
 the pin, or drill the cover and run a bolt up against the pin?
 Either way, you did OK given the labor time involved.

 Do they still arrange KDP parties where a dozen guys get together,
 rip the front ends off their trucks, and do the drillbolt routine
 with a jig to place the drilled hole? (then they sit around, eat
 brats and drink beer)

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Re: [MBZ] audi nut

2005-10-04 Thread Russ Maki


Tjohn wrote:


I remember the guy. I used to subscribe to the 108 list even though I never
have owned one because I wanted to buy the know my stuff in case the right
along. There was an insanely long thread there about how his 280 4.5 could
do 150 mph. I'm pretty sure his name was Shane.

Tjohn
82 300 SD 225K
 

Ah. Shayne Pavlic. He used to post quite a bit on www.audifans.com ... 
but it looks like he's been pretty busy lately running a medical school 
in Belize! http://www.interamericanschool.com/faculty_staff.htm


He speaks three languages!

Re: [MBZ] audi nut

2005-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley

Russ Maki wrote:
 Ah. Shayne Pavlic. He used to post quite a bit on www.audifans.com ...
 but it looks like he's been pretty busy lately running a medical school
 in Belize! http://www.interamericanschool.com/faculty_staff.htm

Speaking of Belize, I haven't seen Melissa here in a while. Didn't she
say something about wanting to ship her 300D to Belize and live there?
(IIRC, the plan had something to do with subsistence farming, and
a few people suggested the locals would be expert in that endeavor
and she would not be)

Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread David Goldsmith

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/092105_rita_storm.shtml

Alarmist?  Sensationalist?  Time will tell...

DG

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 Christopher McCann wrote:
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc
  
  If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know what
 that
  means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be
 cheaper
  than the pump at that point.
 
 Maybe not.  The farmers who cultivate the soybeans
 and the railroads and
 truckers who distribute them will be buying the
 expensive diesel, too.
   I expect this will result in inflation all over
 the economy.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread David Goldsmith

Perhaps his implication is to rush out and stock up
now (it comes in those convenient 5-gallon conainers).
 How much are VO conversions?

DG

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 Christopher McCann wrote:
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc
  
  If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know what
 that
  means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be
 cheaper
  than the pump at that point.
 
 Maybe not.  The farmers who cultivate the soybeans
 and the railroads and
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   I expect this will result in inflation all over
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[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2005-10-04 Thread Tom Hargrave

 


Thanks,
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  US

 NATL  EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST

 DATEAVG   COAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA  

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADD

 I IA  IB  IC  II III  IV V

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051003  3.144  3.198  3.012   3.040   3.283   3.083   3.185  3.079  3.174
3.262
050926  2.798  2.808  2.859   2.875   2.775   2.739   2.756  2.938  2.978
3.031
050919  2.732  2.749  2.804   2.846   2.702   2.648   2.677  2.902  2.985
3.060
050912  2.847  2.849  2.920   2.935   2.806   2.782   2.797  2.957  3.093
3.158
050905  2.898  2.900  2.977   2.993   2.853   2.843   2.833  2.976  3.149
3.250
050829  2.590  2.564  2.649   2.654   2.518   2.532   2.508  2.726  2.920
3.045
050822  2.588  2.564  2.642   2.654   2.519   2.540   2.512  2.679  2.897
3.037
050815  2.567  2.544  2.618   2.633   2.499   2.524   2.481  2.615  2.891
3.042
050808  2.407  2.386  2.492   2.484   2.334   2.336   2.323  2.486  2.801
2.943
050801  2.348  2.356  2.488   2.465   2.297   2.292   2.279  2.421  2.594
2.657
050725  2.342  2.365  2.508   2.481   2.303   2.292   2.278  2.405  2.530
2.578
050718  2.392  2.412  2.535   2.521   2.354   2.361   2.331  2.430  2.530
2.589
050711  2.408  2.427  2.533   2.524   2.377   2.384   2.355  2.408  2.526
2.589
050704  2.348  2.370  2.485   2.475   2.315   2.328   2.290  2.328  2.467
2.554
050627  2.336  2.368  2.476   2.461   2.318   2.314   2.288  2.288  2.433
2.522
050620  2.313  2.348  2.442   2.451   2.296   2.294   2.274  2.236  2.391
2.476
050613  2.276  2.308  2.399   2.399   2.261   2.248   2.247  2.210  2.364
2.457
050606  2.234  2.263  2.353   2.343   2.221   2.198   2.213  2.191  2.339
2.421
050530  2.160  2.188  2.320   2.284   2.134   2.111   2.117  2.179  2.317
2.367
050523  2.156  2.181  2.338   2.292   2.119   2.097   2.112  2.207  2.339
2.373
050516  2.189  2.204  2.380   2.315   2.141   2.129   2.141  2.267  2.397
2.432
050509  2.227  2.237  2.389   2.342   2.179   2.157   2.173  2.318  2.481
2.518
050502  2.262  2.264  2.410   2.366   2.207   2.194   2.209  2.355  2.530
2.561
050425  2.289  2.287  2.413   2.382   2.234   2.230   2.231  2.371  2.549
2.570
050418  2.259  2.260  2.418   2.373   2.197   2.194   2.180  2.379  2.554
2.582
050411  2.316  2.306  2.434   2.423   2.244   2.263   2.251  2.399  2.585
2.625
050404  2.303  2.299  2.427   2.412   2.238   2.258   2.240  2.361  2.541
2.581
050328  2.249  2.248  2.374   2.360   2.189   2.203   2.182  2.326  2.483
2.512
050321  2.244  2.245  2.355   2.358   2.186   2.196   2.180  2.313  2.471
2.482
050314  2.194  2.197  2.320   2.309   2.137   2.140   2.130  2.260  2.442
2.418
050307  2.168  2.163  2.288   2.280   2.102   2.113   2.100  2.229  2.450
2.408
050228  2.118  2.117  2.241   2.233   2.056   2.064   2.035  2.174  2.412
2.376
050221  2.020  2.027  2.198   2.154   1.957   1.953   1.943  2.087  2.321
2.259
050214  1.986  2.013  2.197   2.150   1.938   1.935   1.915  2.011  2.190
2.196
050207  1.983  2.025  2.222   2.159   1.950   1.938   1.938  1.967  2.113
2.144
050131  1.992  2.048  2.225   2.172   1.979   1.954   1.940  1.946  2.085
2.126
050124  1.959  2.014  2.180   2.140   1.945   1.928   1.919  1.884  2.027
2.068
050117  1.952  2.009  2.168   2.127   1.944   1.928   1.908  1.877  2.001
2.023
050110  1.934  1.999  2.163   2.133   1.926   1.911   1.876  1.877  1.973
2.014
050103  1.957  2.025  2.180   2.163   1.952   1.929   1.887

Re: [MBZ] audi nut

2005-10-04 Thread Harry

Yep, thats him although I think he was a bit crazy with the 150mph in 280 4.5 
but I think he liked to exaggerate. I doubted there were any go fast goodies 
for a 30 year old benz and the last I knew 120 was pushing it even in a 4.5 




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2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   

Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tjohn wrote:

I remember the guy. I used to subscribe to the 108 list even though I never
have owned one because I wanted to buy the know my stuff in case the right
along. There was an insanely long thread there about how his 280 4.5 could
do 150 mph. I'm pretty sure his name was Shane.

Tjohn
82 300 SD 225K
  

Ah. Shayne Pavlic. He used to post quite a bit on www.audifans.com ... 
but it looks like he's been pretty busy lately running a medical school 
in Belize! http://www.interamericanschool.com/faculty_staff.htm

He speaks three languages!



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[MBZ] Studded snows

2005-10-04 Thread ned kleinhenz

What is your experience with snow tires?
In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious
options in studded tires.

But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought:

1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice.
2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow.
3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above
feezing temps.
4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few months
of the year.

So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous.

Are my assumptions correct?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Studded snows

2005-10-04 Thread Ron Dwelle

Everyone in Michigan thinks studs are great, but that's probably 
because they are illegal. Not sure what happens if you get caught 
driving through the state with them on your car. I've found my HakkaQs 
on the 240 and the Nokian NRWs on the 190D are adequate for anything 
I've seen here, without studs.


Ron Dwelle

On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:41 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote:

What is your experience with snow tires?
In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious
options in studded tires.

But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought:

1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice.
2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow.
3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above
feezing temps.
4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few 
months

of the year.

So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous.

Are my assumptions correct?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] audi nut

I also noticed her absence - I don't remember sheing any posts from
her since MBZ.org died. I wonder if she knows about striplin.net?


 Speaking of Belize, I haven't seen Melissa here in a while. Didn't she
 say something about wanting to ship her 300D to Belize and live there?
 (IIRC, the plan had something to do with subsistence farming, and
 a few people suggested the locals would be expert in that endeavor
 and she would not be)



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Re: [MBZ] Studded snows

2005-10-04 Thread dave walton

I like Blizzaks.

-Dave Walton

On 10/4/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Everyone in Michigan thinks studs are great, but that's probably
 because they are illegal. Not sure what happens if you get caught
 driving through the state with them on your car. I've found my HakkaQs
 on the 240 and the Nokian NRWs on the 190D are adequate for anything
 I've seen here, without studs.

 Ron Dwelle

 On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:41 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote:

 What is your experience with snow tires?
 In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious
 options in studded tires.

 But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought:

 1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice.
 2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow.
 3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above
 feezing temps.
 4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few
 months
 of the year.

 So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous.

 Are my assumptions correct?

 Ned Kleinhenz
 '95 E300D x2
 '85 300D
 '80 300TD
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maybe that was on the old list and she doent know about the new one?

OK Don wrote:

I was wrong - Melissa did post last to this list on June 26th. about a
red 123 wagon. Maybe she made it to Belize, but doesn't have Internet
access.

On 10/4/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I also noticed her absence - I don't remember sheing any posts from
her since MBZ.org died. I wonder if she knows about striplin.net?




Speaking of Belize, I haven't seen Melissa here in a while. Didn't she
say something about wanting to ship her 300D to Belize and live there?
(IIRC, the plan had something to do with subsistence farming, and
a few people suggested the locals would be expert in that endeavor
and she would not be)





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Re: [MBZ] Studded snows

2005-10-04 Thread mykd1

I got a set of the Blizzaks mounted from tire rack and as far as I'm concerned 
they're the next best thing to studs.  
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:59:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Studded snows


I like Blizzaks.

-Dave Walton

On 10/4/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Everyone in Michigan thinks studs are great, but that's probably
 because they are illegal. Not sure what happens if you get caught
 driving through the state with them on your car. I've found my HakkaQs
 on the 240 and the Nokian NRWs on the 190D are adequate for anything
 I've seen here, without studs.

 Ron Dwelle

 On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:41 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote:

 What is your experience with snow tires?
 In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious
 options in studded tires.

 But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought:

 1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice.
 2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow.
 3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above
 feezing temps.
 4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few
 months
 of the year.

 So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous.

 Are my assumptions correct?

 Ned Kleinhenz
 '95 E300D x2
 '85 300D
 '80 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready

2005-10-04 Thread mykd1

We use a 2003 Dodge 2500 with the 2nd generation Cummins where I work and as 
far as I'm concerned they are much quieter and run smoother than the 12 valve. 
The truck was bought as a bare frame with a extended cab and we installed a 
flatbed on it. I do believe the 2000 model is the same as the 2003, engine wise
 
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Sent: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:41:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel 
ready


Hi David;

The 2000 Cummins engine is probably going to be louder than any later 
model trucks. It is a 2nd Generation 24-Valve 6 Cylinder in line engine. 
Most of the noise in older diesels comes from the mechanical injection 
pump. Modern trucks, such as the Ford/Navstar Chevy/Isuzu and 3rd Gen 
Cummins use a different fuel delivery system called Common Rail. These 
are electronically fired injectors, so much less noise. I'm not sure 
about whether that engine uses return lines at all, but I suspect not. 
My 12V Cummins has no return lines. You can learn more about this 
specific engine at http://www.turbodieselregister.com/.

Regards,

Jim Beidle

David Goldsmith wrote:

Hi, folks!  Wife and I are on the verge of buying an
'00 Dodge 2500 diesel to run on biodiesel.  My main
concern, given my history, is with fuel injector
return lines.  On examining the engine, I noted that
the injectors appear to be inside the engine block, or
at least not have return lines.  Which of these is in
fact the case?  If the injectors are inside the block,
do they have return lines, and if so, are they made of
rubber, metal, or what?  If made of non-Viton rubber,
how difficult is it to get at them to replace them? 
Are there any other biodiesel-related issues
particular to Cummins diesels of this era of which we
should be aware?

Also, the engine was louder than we expected (and
we've heard other diesels, including other diesel
pick-ups which we've test driven, but all these were
Fords) but otherwise seemed to run smoothly; could
that be cause for concern?

Finally, about when do these vehicles need the timing
belt replaced, and about how expensive a service is
that (parts and labor)?

Sorry to bother you, and thanks!

DG


   
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Re: [MBZ] audi nut

I guess you could see if she's subscribed still -- --

Here's the last post my Gmail has from her:

From: Melissa [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [MBZ] Red 83 wagon on ebay
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garbled?
What is up with this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemtc=photord=1item=4558374424category=6330sspagename=WDVW

looks bizzarre to me.
melissa
1984 300D turbo

On 10/4/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nope - I checked. It was this one.

 On 10/4/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  maybe that was on the old list and she doent know about the new one?

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Re: [MBZ] audi nut


nope, she is not subscribed

OK Don wrote:


I guess you could see if she's subscribed still -- --

Here's the last post my Gmail has from her:

From: Melissa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jun 26, 2005 3:58 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Red 83 wagon on ebay
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garbled?
What is up with this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemtc=photord=1item=4558374424category=6330sspagename=WDVW

looks bizzarre to me.
melissa
1984 300D turbo


On 10/4/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Nope - I checked. It was this one.

On 10/4/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


maybe that was on the old list and she doent know about the new one?




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Re: [MBZ] Studded snows

2005-10-04 Thread Marshall Booth


ned kleinhenz wrote:

What is your experience with snow tires?
In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious
options in studded tires.

But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought:

1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice.
2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow.
3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above
feezing temps.
4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few months
of the year.

So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous.


Studs are of little/no advantage in deep snow. Even the newest designs 
reduce traction somewhat on dry or wet pavement (but then snow tires do 
that also). Stud will make traction possible under some conditions when 
regular snow tires won't and will improve the chance of you having 
control of the car over the same tire without studs by a few percent.


I have never been stopped from going where I wanted/needed to go in 
Pittsburgh over the last 45 years when I had 4 studded snows on my 
car(s) (as long as the snow was under 12-14 deep so the car didn't sit 
on top of it with the wheels dangling). With snows without studs, there 
have been a few times when things became dicey. Blizziks are about as 
good as studs for the first 15-20kmi. I have NOT used the studded tire I 
still own for the last 4-5 years as when the weather gets really bad, I 
have NO need to go out in it.


Marshall
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159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

[MBZ] Speaking of Audi nuts

2005-10-04 Thread Lee Levitt

A quick introduction...

I just joined the list yesterday and have already run into an old friend.
Nick and I have known one another for many years and he's been helping me to
join the diesel fraternity. What a wonderful surprise to find Steve MacSween
also on the list...he and I hung out together on SwedishBricks, a list I've
run for many years for Volvo nuts.

I'm a self-confessed Audi nut...been driving Audis for the past 6 or 7
years. I was seduced away from Volvos by Land Rovers, then found an Audi S6
that got me out of the trucks.

So now I'm leaving the Audi fold...I've been driving a late model A6 quattro
wagon and while it's a beatiful car, the combination of a variety of
mechanical and electronic gremlins, the monthly offering to the bank, and
stinky gas mileage (not much better than my 4.0 SE Rover) has gotten me into
diesels.

I've always loved the Mercedes line. I learned to drive on a 240D 30 years
ago (don't tell my uncle, he still doesn't know why the tank was always
empty!) and have always lusted after smaller 2 door cars (230, 280SL).

I found my way here through VW. I thought briefly about a Passat TDI, but
given the recent oil runup, VW prices have gone through the roof. Just not
worth it for a car that's basically a consumable. Been there, done that.

My original plan was to have an *additional* car, so that the Audi would not
pile up the mileage so quickly but still be available for bad weather
driving. I've moved away from that plan, in part because I don't really have
the room for a 3rd car.

So I've found a clean, low mileage '93 W124 td, southern car in North
Carolina, with most or all of the options then available. It's going in for
a pre-purchase inspection tomorrow and if all goes well, I'll have it home
in time for Halloween.

My plan is to play with biodiesel, probably externally produced (not
in-car), but that may change.

We'll see.

In the meantime, I'll have lots of basic questions, like how do you start
one of these things and how do you change the oil, and more. So bear with
me :)

So here's my first question - if a car did not come from the factory with
ASD, is it possible to retrofit it? Is it a simple mechanical replacement of
the rear diff, or is it an electrical and mechanical system? How do you tell
if a car *has* ASD?

And a second question - if the car has headlamp wipers, what happens to them
when I swap the lamps out for ecode lamps? Is this a straightforward swap,
or does it involve dropping the bumper. On my Volvos, it was 3 bolts and
you're away...on the Audi it was a *big* procedure...like pretty much
everything on the Audi!

BTW, I'm in Boston...anyone else around here? Anyone already in a local BD
co-op?

Lee

Re: [MBZ] i actually have an oil question

2005-10-04 Thread mykd1

Unless you live in a place thats very hot or you drive your car very hard I 
wouldn't use 20-50 weight. The 20-50 redline is meant specifically for smaller, 
higher reving race engines 
 
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Subject: [MBZ] i actually have an oil question


i've always used 15W-40 or 20W-50 for dino oil in benzes and 15w-50 mobil 1 
for sythetic.  i'm considering trying redline and figured that 20W-50 
synthetic would be the ticket . redline, however, seems to recommend 
against using hte 20W-50 in ordinary street cars and recommends the 
10W-30.  any thoughts?


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Re: [MBZ] I love my car

2005-10-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis

A lot of people seem to like my 220D cosmetic disaster also.  Several people 
want to buy it every year usually, Carribean-American Taxi drivers.
 
Dimitri
73 220D

Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My 240D has not turned out to be a chick magnet...but
I do get alot of yo homes, nice car...except they
don't call this cracker homes. It's funny, I get way
more comments on the W115 rust bucket than on my nice
SD.

Chris

--- Curt Raymond wrote:

 So Hammie's starter is on its way out. Actually
 truth be told the solenoid is on its way out but
 lets not quibble. When the engine and by relation
 the starter itself is hot the solenoid won't engage,
 you turn the key and get nada.
 So I've got a week off coming up and I'm thinking
 thats a great time to ship him off to my Indy since
 I'll be off to camp with the pickup truck. Since I
 generally only go to and from work and 2 hours seems
 to be plenty of time for a cool down I've just been
 watching where I park so just in case I'll have
 somewhere to roll and get started (the wonder of the
 4spd manual). So today on my way home I had to get a
 present for my wife as today is our anniversary.
 Anyway this one place has a pretty good slope but as
 I was coasting my car was like a magnet for people
 to jump out in front of and I found myself at the
 bottom with no momentum.
 So I was noodling around under the hood trying the
 screwdriver trick and found there was no way I could
 get the screwdriver across both contacts at the same
 time, ARRRGGHHH!
 Then this pretty young woman pulls up in an old
 Suzuki and asked me if I needed help, she seemed
 interested so I explained the situation. She
 suggested we push (240D remember) the car up the
 hill again...
 I really don't know how we managed it, she's not a
 big girl and I'm not in any kind of shape. Anyway we
 get to the top with my lungs on fire. I told her to
 get in, gave her the scoop on what we're doing and
 we'll go. The look on her face was priceless... My
 logic is that I'm big so maybe I'll be able to get
 the car moving faster quicker. Whatever, it worked,
 Hammie started and she didn't steal him. I tried to
 give her ten bucks, she EARNED it but she wouldn't
 take it.
 
 People with Honda's that never break down never get
 to have pretty girls push their car up a hill to get
 it started...
 
 -Curt
 '83 240D Hammie 246kmi -who may have just earned
 himself some much needed attention.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread Loren Faeth

I'll let you get by with that!  I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl 
Lincoln though.


At 11:17 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:

a lincoln with uprated suspension package?

At 07:53 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
Snookie,

The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124.  It is the
last of the hand-built cars.  Since your question concerns rear seat room,
get an SEL or an SDL.  That extra room is awesome.  The 124 is more
economical, and reportedly handles better.  The SDL is head and shoulders
above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate cruising.  I
drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful.  Hursty compared
it to a lincoln, and it is not.  A lincoln is a barge.  A 126 may not be as
spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size.  You
need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74.  The 126 was
probably designed about 78 or so.  They are still beautiful cars today, and
don't look outdated.  My business partner drives a lincoln.  I let him
drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it.  He
noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln.

Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126.  no question.  I think you
should keep the 90 124 also.  They are hard to come by!   Start a 
collection!



At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
 I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet
 you can't guess which one I am considering).   Anyway, I have never had
 one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one
 has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124.  I think the 124
 is such a huge improvement over the 123.
 
 
 
   I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great
 looking.  But,  I think I need more room especially when I have people
 in the back seat.  What are the pros and cons of each car?
 
 
 
 Donald H. Snook
 
 McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A.
 
 300 West Douglas
 
 P.O. Box 207
 
 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
 
 Tel. (316) 263-5851
 
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Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D

2005-10-04 Thread Loren Faeth

sounds like the overhaul consisted of a valve job.  I had a job like that 
foisted on me by the stealership in Memphis back in 72.  That is how I 
learned to be a diesel mechanic.


At 11:26 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:




I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the
cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at
all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched,
which I think can be repaired.  The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up
from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the
same weight in my spare parts bin.  There is no ridge at the top of the cyl
walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons.  So far the
valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today.

Steve

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The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't
have one.  There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold.

The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the
air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one.

Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless
familiar with Benz practice.  Easy way to check is to pull the cam and
remove a couple valve springs.  If the valve will preceptibly move sidways
when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance.

The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can
only check by taking them out.  Should be 0.001, very tight.  You can
check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing).

Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods
are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine.  Pistons may be shot,
too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways
and extrudes the ring lands.

Peter




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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread JabbaHursty


that's much more sporty than the 126, which is pure town car.



At 01:33 PM 10/4/2005, you wrote:

mid 80's MKVII bmw 2.4l turbodiesel

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 I'll let you get by with that! I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl
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 1982 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] SNOW TIRES

2005-10-04 Thread Russ Maki


BillR wrote:


Gee .I've not had any problems with them in the past 20 years.   Never slid
around any of the three [partial] days I had to use the heater in the house.
 


How are they in hurricanes?

Re: [MBZ] time for lt don to move up in the world

Looks great, except for the grimy seats! How do you get MB Tex so filthy??

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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread Trampas

I still vote for the W126, in my opinion it is the greatest sedan ever made!
The W124 just never fit me right I felt like I was in a sports car with 4
doors not a sedan. Actually I still dislike the window seal, for some reason
it just hurt my red neck elbow. My wife of course had little love of the
W124 either, she felt more comfortable in the W126 as well. 

After you drive a W126 for a few months, go ride in a Honda civic, you will
then understand the term portable tin coffin.  

A co-worker was mentioning how much better gas mileage his little Toyota got
over my W126. When he got done, I looked at him and said, isn't it funny how
we always take my car to lunch and not yours. 

I would highly recommend driving both for a month if possible before making
a decision. 

Regards,
Trampas 
  
 

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To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

I'll let you get by with that!  I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl 
Lincoln though.

At 11:17 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:
a lincoln with uprated suspension package?

At 07:53 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
 Snookie,
 
 The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124.  It is
the
 last of the hand-built cars.  Since your question concerns rear seat
room,
 get an SEL or an SDL.  That extra room is awesome.  The 124 is more
 economical, and reportedly handles better.  The SDL is head and shoulders
 above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate cruising.
I
 drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful.  Hursty compared
 it to a lincoln, and it is not.  A lincoln is a barge.  A 126 may not be
as
 spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size.
You
 need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74.  The 126 was
 probably designed about 78 or so.  They are still beautiful cars today,
and
 don't look outdated.  My business partner drives a lincoln.  I let him
 drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it.  He
 noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln.
 
 Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126.  no question.  I think you
 should keep the 90 124 also.  They are hard to come by!   Start a 
 collection!
 
 
 At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
  I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I
bet
  you can't guess which one I am considering).   Anyway, I have never had
  one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one
  has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124.  I think the
124
  is such a huge improvement over the 123.
  
  
  
I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage -
great
  looking.  But,  I think I need more room especially when I have people
  in the back seat.  What are the pros and cons of each car?
  
  
  
  Donald H. Snook
  
  McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A.
  
  300 West Douglas
  
  P.O. Box 207
  
  Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
  
  Tel. (316) 263-5851
  
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog 411.118 4X4 60 in wheelbase

Seriously, what's it good for?

On 10/3/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i hear that one!

 On 10/3/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Run over PeTA punks with their stupid posters
 
  At 09:11 AM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
  What do you do with this ungainly beast?
 
 
  BTW, around here PETA means people for eating tasty animals!
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog and Aussie Farmers v Peta geniuses

Fascinating - thanks for the education.

On 10/3/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Andrew,

 You go out and plough the fields with it or go extreme off roading(with 25
 hp.woppee).
 The reason the gearshifter is long is to give you something to hold onto
 when she tips over after attempting to go up a vertical incline. Then
 again
 the difference between men and boys is the length of the gear stick.
 Or perhaps it is removable, in which case it would come in handy in case
 the
 peta greenies are still breathing after being run over(I'll apologize for
 that remark in advance).
 BTW in case any of you where wondering the reason we mutilate our sheep
 over here is to stop them becoming flyblown. What is flyblown you city
 folks
 are wondering? Flyblown is when flies lay their eggs(which turn into
 maggots) around the sheep's behind, which leads to a rather slow painful
 death for the sheep involved(if not treated in time). Think thousands of
 maggots eating you alive.
 Mulesing is the practise of removing part of the folds around the sheep's
 behind to discourage flies from laying eggs(remember sheep do have trouble
 wiping their bottoms after going potty, this is where the term daggy comes
 from).
 Also consider that over here some sheep stations are measured in square
 kilometres and it is unreal to expect a Farmer to check his sheep every
 second day for maggot infestation.
 Actually that is all a lie, our Farmers are all a bunch of sadistic brutes
 who enjoy spending money on getting their flock mutilated(well, that is
 what
 the animal rights activist say anyway).

 Hendrik
 with a long gear stick(in the mog of course) and has seen flyblown
 sheep(not
 nice)

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  What do you do with this ungainly beast? Why is the gearshifter so long?
 
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Re: [MBZ] [MBZ Fuel was:AZ FFORTY CENT Diesel price jump today here!

Chuck,
 Can you attach a 3D jpeg file with about 15 gallons of that cheap diesel?
If you're into barter, I can email you its equivalent in sausage, e.g.,
the latest version of the post - Katrina Energy Act amendments.


 On 10/3/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chuck typed:

 If you ever get over to I-10 at the Wild Horse Blvd Exit A
 Love's Truck Stop has opened on the east side and diesel is/was
 $2.739... I filled up last Thursday...

 The Love's over here on the west side (Buckeye, really) was $2.769
 Thursday.
 When I drove home this AM it was $3.099.
 This stinks.

 Bob Rentfro (Jonesin' for bio closer than 25 miles away)
 '77 300D 141K
 Litchfield Park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

2005-10-04 Thread Rusty Cullens

Here here Trampus. There is no comparison. The W126 is a far better car
in all aspects. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trampas
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:47 PM
To: 'Mercedes mailing list'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

I still vote for the W126, in my opinion it is the greatest sedan ever
made!
The W124 just never fit me right I felt like I was in a sports car with
4
doors not a sedan. Actually I still dislike the window seal, for some
reason
it just hurt my red neck elbow. My wife of course had little love of the
W124 either, she felt more comfortable in the W126 as well. 

After you drive a W126 for a few months, go ride in a Honda civic, you
will
then understand the term portable tin coffin.  

A co-worker was mentioning how much better gas mileage his little Toyota
got
over my W126. When he got done, I looked at him and said, isn't it funny
how
we always take my car to lunch and not yours. 

I would highly recommend driving both for a month if possible before
making
a decision. 

Regards,
Trampas 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:19 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126

I'll let you get by with that!  I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl 
Lincoln though.

At 11:17 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:
a lincoln with uprated suspension package?

At 07:53 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
 Snookie,

 The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124.  It
is
the
 last of the hand-built cars.  Since your question concerns rear seat
room,
 get an SEL or an SDL.  That extra room is awesome.  The 124 is more
 economical, and reportedly handles better.  The SDL is head and
shoulders
 above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate
cruising.
I
 drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful.  Hursty
compared
 it to a lincoln, and it is not.  A lincoln is a barge.  A 126 may not
be
as
 spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size.
You
 need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74.  The 126
was
 probably designed about 78 or so.  They are still beautiful cars
today,
and
 don't look outdated.  My business partner drives a lincoln.  I let
him
 drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it.
He
 noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln.

 Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126.  no question.  I think
you
 should keep the 90 124 also.  They are hard to come by!   Start a 
 collection!

 At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
  I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL
(I
bet
  you can't guess which one I am considering).   Anyway, I have never
had
  one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any
one
  has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124.  I think
the
124
  is such a huge improvement over the 123.

I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage -
great
  looking.  But,  I think I need more room especially when I have
people
  in the back seat.  What are the pros and cons of each car?

  Donald H. Snook

  McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A.

  300 West Douglas

  P.O. Box 207

  Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

  Tel. (316) 263-5851

  This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client
  privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If
you
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[MBZ] Hurricane tires

2005-10-04 Thread BillR

Message: 12
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:47:17 -0500
From: Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] SNOW TIRES
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BillR wrote:

Gee .I've not had any problems with them in the past 20 years.   Never slid
around any of the three [partial] days I had to use the heater in the
house.

How are they in hurricanes?

[BillR] You can get nasty can't you?  For some reason [and I really wasn't
that good as a child] in all the hurricanes of the past 12 year in South
Florida the worst I had was that the lights flickered three times.  We were
more than lucky.  Kids had no power for 5 days - friends had none for 2
weeks - twice.  I had to fill up 4 trash cans with small branches and
leaves, and FEMA took out the two larger branches that broke off.  Tires did
just fine ...  Anyone want to take me to Vegas?
BillR
'81 300SD the EM  265K / no engine yet  [judging from my luck with engines,
forget the Vegas part]

Re: [MBZ] [MBZ Fuel was:AZ FFORTY CENT Diesel price jump today here!

2005-10-04 Thread Chuck Landenberger


Andrew,

Unfortunately, neither Stuffit or ZIP does not handle liquid  
attachments well..  Gets the keyboard slippery...


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Oct 4, 2005, at 10:59 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


Chuck,
 Can you attach a 3D jpeg file with about 15 gallons of that cheap  
diesel?
If you're into barter, I can email you its equivalent in sausage,  
e.g.,

the latest version of the post - Katrina Energy Act amendments.


 On 10/3/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Chuck typed:

If you ever get over to I-10 at the Wild Horse Blvd Exit A
Love's Truck Stop has opened on the east side and diesel is/was
$2.739... I filled up last Thursday...

The Love's over here on the west side (Buckeye, really) was $2.769
Thursday.
When I drove home this AM it was $3.099.
This stinks.

Bob Rentfro (Jonesin' for bio closer than 25 miles away)
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D

2005-10-04 Thread dave walton

What does it mean to Spin a Bearing - or Spun a Bearing?
Spin, Span, Spun - whatever...

Thanks

-Dave Walton


On 10/4/05, Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the
 cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at
 all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched,
 which I think can be repaired.  The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up
 from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the
 same weight in my spare parts bin.  There is no ridge at the top of the cyl
 walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons.  So far the
 valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today.

 Steve

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 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't
 have one.  There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold.

 The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the
 air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one.

 Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless
 familiar with Benz practice.  Easy way to check is to pull the cam and
 remove a couple valve springs.  If the valve will preceptibly move sidways
 when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance.

 The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can
 only check by taking them out.  Should be 0.001, very tight.  You can
 check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing).

 Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods
 are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine.  Pistons may be shot,
 too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways
 and extrudes the ring lands.

 Peter




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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog 411.118 4X4 60 in wheelbase

2005-10-04 Thread LT Don

Car shows, a daily driver, and running over drivers who are trying to run
into PETA protesters.

On 10/4/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seriously, what's it good for?

 On 10/3/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  i hear that one!
 
  On 10/3/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Run over PeTA punks with their stupid posters
  
   At 09:11 AM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
   What do you do with this ungainly beast?
  
  
   BTW, around here PETA means people for eating tasty animals!
  
  
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[MBZ] Diesel price

2005-10-04 Thread Wilton Strickland

$3.60 in Goldsboro, NC

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] [MBZ Fuel was:AZ FFORTY CENT Diesel price jump today here!


Chuck typeth:

Unfortunately, neither Stuffit or ZIP does not handle liquid  
attachments well..  Gets the keyboard slippery...




And not only that...everything is now $3.199 or so.

Boo Hiss

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] Diesel price


Wilton reported:

$3.60 in Goldsboro, NC


After I called to ensure that bio was still just $2.869, I drove 25 miles 
into Phoenix to the ONLY stinkin' bio pump in this crazy town. When I 
arrived, there was an 18-wheeler filling up. Behind him waiting was a feller 
in a Ford 250 with an aux tank in the bed. Finally, the big rig was done, 
pulled away and the little drive attendent vato said the tank was dry. If I 
wanted to wait an hour or so they would have the tank refilled. 90 minutes 
later, there were 8 assorted vechiles waiting. I asked the big boss looking 
dude, who brought us out some H20 while we waited, why are there not at 
least a few more bio pumps in PHX and he had a terse, one word answer...the 
Z word...zoning. I'm not sure why it's such an issue...he couldn't explain 
since he had to scram.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] Trip to PHX was: FORTY CENT

2005-10-04 Thread Chuck Landenberger


Kevin,

Route suggestion...

From I-40 after Kingman AZ hang a right onto Rte. 93 which will  
merge and become Rte. 60.  You will be heading southeasterly on  
both..  That will bring you into Phoenix.


You might try doing a Mapquest, etc., citing Kingman AZ as START and  
Phoenix AZ as DESTINATION...  Will give you more than my large  
scale US Map on the wall...


Take care and let me know... Let me know the date for the  
Sunday  We'll do a mini-list meeting in Phoenix...



On Oct 3, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Kevin wrote:


On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 03:09:45PM -0700, Chuck Landenberger wrote:


You gonna' have any free time when you are in Phoenix..  I'm 45
minutes to Snottsdale  Want to try and hook up for a  
while




Probably will sunday afternoon/evening. I have some sort of meeting at
2:00 or 2:30, but am free after that for the rest of the evening.
 
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Hi Lee,



I'm in Gardner, about 50 miles west of you, I drive a 240D but am actively 
looking for a 190D preferably with a 5spd. If I can't find one by about January 
I think I'm doomed to a *gasp* Chevy. I need a new car as I'm not willing to 
pile a bunch of money into making my 240D a keeper. I don't really want another 
W123 since the maintenance is somewhat of a killer as I drive 80 miles (soon to 
be 90) a day.

I haven't gotten into a BD coop yet but one of the guys at work has a pair of 
w116s and we've sure talked about it.



-Curt

'83 240D Hammie 246kmi



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[MBZ] Odo repair

2005-10-04 Thread Wilton Strickland

Is repair of 116 odometer same as 123?

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D

2005-10-04 Thread Van Cleve


I have no idea who did the rebuild but it was down in San Diego :'(
I'm kind of a beginner at this but I have seen the inside of a couple 616s 
and I dont quite get the no ridge and no cross hatchs, even I know that 
aint right :-)  Allot of the parts in the eng look new, oil pump, chain 
tensioner  shoe, (guides). It doesn't look like its been too many miles 
since this overhaul



Steve


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why I look this way. I've travelled a long way and some of the roads 
weren't paved.



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sounds like the overhaul consisted of a valve job.  I had a job like that 
foisted on me by the stealership in Memphis back in 72.  That is how I 
learned to be a diesel mechanic.


At 11:26 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:




I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the
cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at
all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched,
which I think can be repaired.  The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up
from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the
same weight in my spare parts bin.  There is no ridge at the top of the cyl
walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons.  So far the
valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today.

Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread Christopher McCann

I wasn't really implying anything, just making an
observation. Yes, Fuel prices will lead to price
inflation in general, but Europe has had high fuel
prices forever and it's still cheaper to buy bulk
fresh VO than it is to buy D2 or BioD (the cheapest
fuel at the pump). We may be facing that scenario.

Conversion prices cover quite a range. Frybrid, the
best, is $1,700. My friend and I finished installing
his last night and we're now running 100% VO. It is
rather amazing.

The savings, for us, will be a very convenient supply
of oil (got a guy lined up for this) and a fast, clean
and VERY efficient filtration method (using an
industrial centrifugal filter in my garage - sub
micron purity).

Chris

--- David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps his implication is to rush out and stock up
 now (it comes in those convenient 5-gallon
 conainers).
  How much are VO conversions?
 
 DG
 
 --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Christopher McCann wrote:
  
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc
   
   If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know what
  that
   means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be
  cheaper
   than the pump at that point.
  
  Maybe not.  The farmers who cultivate the soybeans
  and the railroads and
  truckers who distribute them will be buying the
  expensive diesel, too.
I expect this will result in inflation all over
  the economy.
  
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-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
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etc.)

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Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D

2005-10-04 Thread Potter, Tom E

The crankshaft bearing inserts are secured in the rod by indents on the
cap and rod. If the bearing gets worn or the friction between the
crankshaft and bearing gets high, the insert may come loose from these
indents and spin inside the rod (not good).

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What does it mean to Spin a Bearing - or Spun a Bearing?
Spin, Span, Spun - whatever...

Thanks

-Dave Walton


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 I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if
the
 cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks
at
 all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched,
 which I think can be repaired.  The rod is somewhat discolored about
2'' up
 from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one
the
 same weight in my spare parts bin.  There is no ridge at the top of
the cyl
 walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons.  So far
the
 valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today.

 Steve

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 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you
don't
 have one.  There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold.

 The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in
the
 air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one.

 Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides,
unless
 familiar with Benz practice.  Easy way to check is to pull the cam and
 remove a couple valve springs.  If the valve will preceptibly move
sidways
 when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance.

 The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that
you can
 only check by taking them out.  Should be 0.001, very tight.  You can
 check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing).

 Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and
rods
 are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine.  Pistons may be
shot,
 too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex
sideways
 and extrudes the ring lands.

 Peter




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Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread Christopher McCann

p.s. those convenient containers are NOT 5 gallon. For
soy (and probably other oils as well), they are 35
lbs...I forget the conversion ratio...its about 4.5
gallons or so.

Chris

--- David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps his implication is to rush out and stock up
 now (it comes in those convenient 5-gallon
 conainers).
  How much are VO conversions?
 
 DG
 
 --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Christopher McCann wrote:
  
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc
   
   If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know what
  that
   means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be
  cheaper
   than the pump at that point.
  
  Maybe not.  The farmers who cultivate the soybeans
  and the railroads and
  truckers who distribute them will be buying the
  expensive diesel, too.
I expect this will result in inflation all over
  the economy.
  
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-1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do 
not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP and/or injectors, 
etc.)

-1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's 
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[MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready

2005-10-04 Thread Van Cleve



Geeze...Talk about loosing at Russian roulette,, big time bummer
I made a trip to Or and another to CA knowing I could loose the game :'(
Then theres the 5th gear nut but at least you can carry on in 4th

Regards   Steve Van Cleve
Marrowstone Isl Wa

85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K
79 240D 5spd  fresh tranny transplan
82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon
94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K


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I remember reading on our TDR page that a member drove to a KDP party
which was 100 plus miles and his pin came out on the way there,
bummer!

Rory

Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread David Goldsmith

How'd you score the high-tech filter - surplus
auction?

DG

--- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wasn't really implying anything, just making an
 observation. Yes, Fuel prices will lead to price
 inflation in general, but Europe has had high fuel
 prices forever and it's still cheaper to buy bulk
 fresh VO than it is to buy D2 or BioD (the cheapest
 fuel at the pump). We may be facing that scenario.
 
 Conversion prices cover quite a range. Frybrid, the
 best, is $1,700. My friend and I finished installing
 his last night and we're now running 100% VO. It is
 rather amazing.
 
 The savings, for us, will be a very convenient
 supply
 of oil (got a guy lined up for this) and a fast,
 clean
 and VERY efficient filtration method (using an
 industrial centrifugal filter in my garage - sub
 micron purity).
 
 Chris
 
 --- David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Perhaps his implication is to rush out and stock
 up
  now (it comes in those convenient 5-gallon
  conainers).
   How much are VO conversions?
  
  DG
  
  --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Christopher McCann wrote:
   
  
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc

If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know what
   that
means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be
   cheaper
than the pump at that point.
   
   Maybe not.  The farmers who cultivate the
 soybeans
   and the railroads and
   truckers who distribute them will be buying the
   expensive diesel, too.
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 -1976 240D, ManyK miles,  AKP-Wagen (Alternativen
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Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

2005-10-04 Thread Christopher McCann

http://www.dieselproducts.com/

Some VERY cool stuff there - not cheap. We're getting
one of the Spin Clean models, I forget which one,
right now...documentation is all at home.

If you get one, have to have the right pump (gpm and
psi) for it and then a motor for the pump...

Chris

--- David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How'd you score the high-tech filter - surplus
 auction?
 
 DG
 
 --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I wasn't really implying anything, just making an
  observation. Yes, Fuel prices will lead to price
  inflation in general, but Europe has had high fuel
  prices forever and it's still cheaper to buy bulk
  fresh VO than it is to buy D2 or BioD (the
 cheapest
  fuel at the pump). We may be facing that scenario.
  
  Conversion prices cover quite a range. Frybrid,
 the
  best, is $1,700. My friend and I finished
 installing
  his last night and we're now running 100% VO. It
 is
  rather amazing.
  
  The savings, for us, will be a very convenient
  supply
  of oil (got a guy lined up for this) and a fast,
  clean
  and VERY efficient filtration method (using an
  industrial centrifugal filter in my garage - sub
  micron purity).
  
  Chris
  
  --- David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   Perhaps his implication is to rush out and stock
  up
   now (it comes in those convenient 5-gallon
   conainers).
How much are VO conversions?
   
   DG
   
   --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Christopher McCann wrote:

   
  
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc
 
 If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know
 what
that
 means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be
cheaper
 than the pump at that point.

Maybe not.  The farmers who cultivate the
  soybeans
and the railroads and
truckers who distribute them will be buying
 the
expensive diesel, too.
  I expect this will result in inflation all
  over
the economy.

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[MBZ] Rear axle problem? 116 300SD

2005-10-04 Thread Kevin Beswick

After letting my son drive my 1980 300SD for three months, I needed to 
use it.  On right hand turns, there is a metal sliding on metal noise, 
and when you straighten out, a metallic clang, with occasional metallic 
pops.  I'm thinking it's a bad axle or CV joints from a 17 year old 
driving it like it's a sportscar.  There seems to be a lot of play in 
the axles. How much side to side movement should there be, or is there 
another way to diagnose these.  My only other experience was with a 1968 
VW Bus.  The noises seem similar, even if that was over 20 years ago.   
Also, how expensive a fix is this?  This is the one needing new glow 
plugs, among other issues, and I'm about to throw in the towel on it.  
If the engine and trany were not so strong, I'd dump it.


Thanks for any help.

Kevin

Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog and Aussie Farmers v Peta geniuses

I've seen pictures of those maggots on sheep...totally nasty. Is there also
a parrot type bird out there that burrows into the flesh of sheep or is that
New Zealand? As far as the P.E.T.A. comments go, those are welcome in my
book...peta is nothing more than a bunch of extremist, along with al quieda,
liberals, religious conservatives, rush limbaugh, hippes, etc.

On 10/3/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Andrew,

You go out and plough the fields with it or go extreme off roading(with 25
hp.woppee).
The reason the gearshifter is long is to give you something to hold onto
when she tips over after attempting to go up a vertical incline. Then
again
the difference between men and boys is the length of the gear stick.
Or perhaps it is removable, in which case it would come in handy in case
the
peta greenies are still breathing after being run over(I'll apologize for
that remark in advance).
BTW in case any of you where wondering the reason we mutilate our sheep
over here is to stop them becoming flyblown. What is flyblown you city
folks
are wondering? Flyblown is when flies lay their eggs(which turn into
maggots) around the sheep's behind, which leads to a rather slow painful
death for the sheep involved(if not treated in time). Think thousands of
maggots eating you alive.
Mulesing is the practise of removing part of the folds around the sheep's
behind to discourage flies from laying eggs(remember sheep do have trouble
wiping their bottoms after going potty, this is where the term daggy comes
from).
Also consider that over here some sheep stations are measured in square
kilometres and it is unreal to expect a Farmer to check his sheep every
second day for maggot infestation.
Actually that is all a lie, our Farmers are all a bunch of sadistic brutes
who enjoy spending money on getting their flock mutilated(well, that is
what
the animal rights activist say anyway).

Hendrik
with a long gear stick(in the mog of course) and has seen flyblown
sheep(not
nice)

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From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog 411.118 4X4 60 in wheelbase

What do you do with this ungainly beast? Why is the gearshifter so long?

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Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!

where, may i ask, did you aquire this fancy filtering device?

On 10/4/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wasn't really implying anything, just making an
 observation. Yes, Fuel prices will lead to price
 inflation in general, but Europe has had high fuel
 prices forever and it's still cheaper to buy bulk
 fresh VO than it is to buy D2 or BioD (the cheapest
 fuel at the pump). We may be facing that scenario.

 Conversion prices cover quite a range. Frybrid, the
 best, is $1,700. My friend and I finished installing
 his last night and we're now running 100% VO. It is
 rather amazing.

 The savings, for us, will be a very convenient supply
 of oil (got a guy lined up for this) and a fast, clean
 and VERY efficient filtration method (using an
 industrial centrifugal filter in my garage - sub
 micron purity).

 Chris

 --- David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Perhaps his implication is to rush out and stock up
  now (it comes in those convenient 5-gallon
  conainers).
  How much are VO conversions?
 
  DG
 
  --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Christopher McCann wrote:
   
  
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/energy_winter_costs_dc
   
If heating oil is going up 30+%, you know what
   that
means for diesel. Costco soybean oil will be
   cheaper
than the pump at that point.
  
   Maybe not. The farmers who cultivate the soybeans
   and the railroads and
   truckers who distribute them will be buying the
   expensive diesel, too.
   I expect this will result in inflation all over
   the economy.
  
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 -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs
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Re: [MBZ] [MBZ Fuel was:AZ FFORTY CENT Diesel price jump today here!

They only take cash and there is a religious message on the bottom of thier
cups =/

On 10/3/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob,

 If you ever get over to I-10 at the Wild Horse Blvd Exit A
 Love's Truck Stop has opened on the east side and diesel is/was
 $2.739... I filled up last Thursday...

 Take care,

 Chuck
 1980 300SD
 S. Phoenix AZ
 On Oct 3, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

  Kevin typed (I'm sure ending his sentence in a preposition was an
  oversight):
 
  Actually, In-N-Out is one of the few fast food places I'll stop at.
 
  #1, Animal Style, Dr. Pepper.
 
  They have very polite employees...AND THEY COUNT YOUR CHANGE BACK!
 
  As far as diesel prices are concerned here in AZ, I saw a jump from
  $2.859
  to $3.119 while I worked the night shift at the old nuc plant. Thank
  goodness I filled up with $2.839 bio on Thursday. I hope it's still
  $2.839
  tomorrow when I go in town.
 
  Bob Rentfro
  '77 300D 141K
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes Diesel Unimog 411.118 4X4 60 in wheelbase

more like running over peta protesters

On 10/4/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Car shows, a daily driver, and running over drivers who are trying to run
 into PETA protesters.

 On 10/4/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Seriously, what's it good for?
 
  On 10/3/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   i hear that one!
  
   On 10/3/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Run over PeTA punks with their stupid posters
   
At 09:11 AM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
What do you do with this ungainly beast?
   
   
BTW, around here PETA means people for eating tasty animals!
   
   
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Re: [MBZ] [MBZ Fuel was:AZ FFORTY CENT Diesel price jump today here!

Is that the Loves? They don't do that in OK - credit card is good. I
don't buy anything in cups from them, so don't know about any message
- just #2.

On 10/4/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They only take cash and there is a religious message on the bottom of thier
 cups =/


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Re: [MBZ] [MBZ Fuel was:AZ FFORTY CENT Diesel price jump today here!


OK Don typed:

Is that the Loves? They don't do that in OK - credit card is good. I
don't buy anything in cups from them, so don't know about any message
just #2.


He's talkin' In and Out...evidently Gabriel is a plastic carrying athiest.

Bob Reentfro
'77300D 141K
Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!