Re: [MBZ] Break
But RLE, it was Thomas Jefferson himself who said it is a small mind that can think of but one way to spell a word, and Einstein who used to love to repeat Jefferson's quote. On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do some insist on spelling brake as break? Certainly the word break (or perhaps, broken) has a time honored history with MBs in general and all too often. RLE/Seattle/nothing broken at the moment ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma
Re: [MBZ] stupid diesel tricks
MORON. On 10/11/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?t=136682 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid changes
I did mine about a year ago, I think I might have used the $2 oil sucker to get a lot of the fluid out (I can't remember if it did or did not work on the Benz, it definitely worked on my truck and Caddie -- cleaned the pans nearly dry), still had to do the TC. Don't recall it being that messy though, or maybe my tolerance level is fairly high. I just put down some plastic sheet and newspapers and a big old dishpan and that works pretty well to catch most of the drainage. --R Marshall Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard to match the joy of lying on your back under your MB (on four jackstands) with transmission fluid running down your arms, ruining your clothes and staining the driveway surface. I change my trans fluid with my Visa card, now. Some tings just ain't wuth it. I'm with you! Maybe it's an age thing ;-) Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Break
Did TJ come before or after Mr. Webster? I know AE did, but he also did not bother to remember his phone number (he said he could look it up if he needed to call home). --R Richard Smith wrote: But RLE, it was Thomas Jefferson himself who said it is a small mind that can think of but one way to spell a word, and Einstein who used to love to repeat Jefferson's quote. On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do some insist on spelling brake as break? Certainly the word break (or perhaps, broken) has a time honored history with MBs in general and all too often. RLE/Seattle/nothing broken at the moment ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 350SDL
First, let me say that Marshall is quite accurate in his views. I have a 350SDL which I purchased with full knowledge that it would self destruct, which it did. I am also very happy with this car. I did plan and ultimatle did install a MB rebuilt motor ( in house). Y;ou can see it at www.scaffolding.com/mb If you find a really good 350SDL I believe you will be very happy with it. That happiness can be achieved if the purchase price (factors in) the cost of a new motor. Constantine
Re: [MBZ] paint damages
My clear coat already looks like that -- where's a refinery I can drive past? On 10/12/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks just like mine, same color, exept my clearcoat looks wors and it took several years since the car had to park outdoors. You are in Houston, are you. UV is high and the air is not the cleanest. On 10/11/05, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
[MBZ] 350 SDL
Got mine in '95 w/79kmi; timing chn broke at 89kmi; much repair to head - valves, liftrs, new chain, guides, lots of stuf I don't remember; no repair to bottom part of eng. Now at 181kmi, couple qts oil btwen chnges at 5k. Fantastic car; best drive and ride ever for me. I'm 71. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
why would you replace the engine because the head is cracked? Brian Smyla wrote: I'm looking for an engine to replace the one in my 86 300SDL. Cracked head. Any pointers? -brian ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
That really makes no sense at all. So you are saying you dont want to buy a used head because it will crack again, yet you want to buy a whole used engine that will have a used head(that will crack again). Somebody is giving you bad advise. Replace the cracked head with a used #17 or above. A little research will save you alot of money. One from a 350 will be the undated version and will work fine. Brian Smyla wrote: Well, I've been told not to bother with a used head, since it's virtually guaranteed to crack at some point due to a faulty design by MB. A new cylinder head of the redesigned casting variety is $1900 plus shipping, plus I'll need to swap prechambers, etc.. I figure a used, low mileage engine would hopefully come in under what I'd have to pay for the new head, etc.. -brian Brian Smyla wrote: I'm looking for an engine to replace the one in my 86 300SDL. Cracked head. Any pointers? Just replace the head. A complete engine will be more to MUCH more expensive. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] Break, etc.
Somebody said, so I will just go and lay down. That's LIE down. My peeve and my .02. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
Well as marshall pointed out and which is correct, a quality used engine is going to be at least $2500. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: why would you replace the engine because the head is cracked? Because he thinks a used head will crack if bought separately, but not if he buys it uninspected and still on the engine. I think he should just get a used head, casting #17 thru #22. Certainly he should not buy a used engine if it has the same #14 head he has now. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] South Florida Dealer prices
Reading the thread on a MB dealer installing a battery without charge made me recall something that happened here last month. I wanted to get a jug of that good MB anti-freeze so I could renew my top-off supply. I asked my wife to stop by and pick one up for me. Mistake. The friendly dealer parts man smiled broadly and charged her $22.00 plus tax . My record stands. Have not visited a local MB dealer in 12 years because of such actions. Cheers Bill Aston 1983 380 SEC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/130 - Release Date: 10/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] South Florida Dealer prices
Bill Aston wrote: I believe that's list for a gallon of antifreeze now. BTW, I noticed that Prestone has a new product, meets mbz spec#, I assume it's the same specification that G-05 meets, but I'm not certain, I didn't write down what it said on the Prestone jug. Cost was roughly $10, similar to the last jug of Zerex G-05 I bought.
Re: [MBZ] stupid diesel tricks
The burnouts were cool.A walk in the park for the ole Benz but the reverse to drive shifts probably didn't help much. If they haven't done worse it's still probably salvageable with maybe a new tranny or broken mount here and there. I've seen these thing dominate a demolition derby.What he did was nothing.I'll buy it for a hundred bucks if it's still runnin..Mike - Original Message - From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] stupid diesel tricks Guess it's his car, and he can do what he wants with it. Yet seeing that just breaks the heart of an old diesel Benz lover. Ned K. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
Just replace the head with a new one, much cheaper and easier. Unless, of course, you fried the block as well. Usually damage is limited to the head UNLESS it blew out between #1 and the chain case an sucked oil in -- bent con rod and consequent damage. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Break
There is a difference between finding an alternative way to spell a word, and using the wrong word! Drives me crazy! Happens at work ALL the time! It was MUCH longer than 15 years ago that people stopped learning the language! If my kids weren't better spellers than I am, I would blame it one the Oklahoma schools - but they went to the poor grade school, and turned out to be very good scholars - and no, it ain't my fault! Don't ask me how I really feel about this subject! On 10/12/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did TJ come before or after Mr. Webster? I know AE did, but he also did not bother to remember his phone number (he said he could look it up if he needed to call home). --R Richard Smith wrote: But RLE, it was Thomas Jefferson himself who said it is a small mind that can think of but one way to spell a word, and Einstein who used to love to repeat Jefferson's quote. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
No, No - all you guys are giving bad advice! Replace the engine, and ship the old one to me -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
damn, you beat me too it, why didnt I think of that. Oh yea, I did but thought it was stupid. OK Don wrote: No, No - all you guys are giving bad advice! Replace the engine, and ship the old one to me -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] hey OK don
Whats diesel at over there? Its 2.94 while cas is 2.46. Something is screwy with that. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
See - you thought one step too far! On 10/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn, you beat me too it, why didnt I think of that. Oh yea, I did but thought it was stupid. OK Don wrote: No, No - all you guys are giving bad advice! Replace the engine, and ship the old one to me -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
It's from $2.99 to $2.95 here, with gas at $2.25 to $2.29. Just insane! On 10/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats diesel at over there? Its 2.94 while cas is 2.46. Something is screwy with that. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
I can understand it being higher because of heating oil season, but this is out of control. OK Don wrote: It's from $2.99 to $2.95 here, with gas at $2.25 to $2.29. Just insane! On 10/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats diesel at over there? Its 2.94 while cas is 2.46. Something is screwy with that. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease
ned kleinhenz wrote: Marshall wrote: There are many greases that will meet the specification, but few are packaged in precisely the correct amounts as the Mercedes product is and few mechanics, much less DIYers have scales to weigh out the proper quantities as is required for proper application. The design of the bearing assembly and the grease specifications allowed the grease to be pumped thru the bearing assembly as long as the proper quantities were loaded into the correct compartments. ___ I replaced the front wheel bearing on a 124, last night. What a difference that made! It's now like a new car in quietness and handling. What is Marshall refering to by packaged in precisely the correct amounts? Each time I've bought that expesive super MB grease from the dealer or from Rusty, it came in a big toothpaste type tube that contained enough to repack about 2.5 wheels. No obvious way to measure each dose. Does Mercedes also sell this stuff in one dose foil packs or something? Failing that option, I guess we could measure it volumetrically with a tablespoon or some such. (It expect the density of grease is about 0.7gm/cc). Also, where is all the grease supposed to be placed? Where are these correct copartments? Inside each cage, between the rollers is obvious. And I know the cover cap is supposed to contain a measured amount. But is there supposed to be some placed inside the hub, between the inner and outer bearings? These details are not obvious in the shop manual. Should not have been any problem. The 150 grams in the tube should be divided in half (for each side) then 80% of each half (60 g) into the bearings and the remaining 20% (15 g) into the cap. Seemed perfectly simple to me. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Lay/lie
Somebody said, so I will just go and lay down. That was humor and the rest of us caught it RLE
Re: [MBZ] Lucent?
Bob DuPuy wrote: There must be something wrong with me for taking the bait over and over but.., How about banning DDT to make do gooders feel good about themselves? When in reality many of the problems ascribed to DDT are not supported by scientific facts. My understanding is that most of the problems associated with DDT were due to extreme overuse. There are probably some excellent applications for it, but spraying it indiscriminately all over the landscape, like was done when it was introduced, isn't one of them. The problem, of course, is that it doesn't break down at all. To this day every man, woman, and child in the U.S. has detectable amounts of it in their body fat, and it's even been found in surprisingly high concentrations in animals in the Antarctic. The stuff just doesn't go away.
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
Price gouging!!! On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:16:05 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand it being higher because of heating oil season, but this is out of control. OK Don wrote: It's from $2.99 to $2.95 here, with gas at $2.25 to $2.29. Just insane! On 10/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats diesel at over there? Its 2.94 while cas is 2.46. Something is screwy with that. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
OK Don wrote: It's from $2.99 to $2.95 here, with gas at $2.25 to $2.29. Just insane! I hear heating oil futures for November delivery are currently going for around $2.80/gallon. And that's the wholesale price!
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D power steering vibration
On 10/12/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS steering pump failures requiring replacements are quite rare. I can only find 3 or 4 references to replacing one in the more than half million problem reports I can access. I've NEVER had one fail myself. Are you SURE it's not a serp belt tensioner, lever, shock or idler problem or even the inside of the high pressure line collapsing (much more common than bad pump)? Serpentine belt tensioner, lever, shock, and idler were recently replaced... but now I wonder if something was done wrong that affected the PS pump somehow? How would I know if the high pressure line was collapsing? It looks normal, although I note that there is a visible coating of oil on the outside of both the high and low pressure lines within six inches or so of the pump. Can't tell whether it is coming from somewhere else or seeping through from inside. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] stupid diesel tricks
ned kleinhenz wrote: Guess it's his car, and he can do what he wants with it. Yet seeing that just breaks the heart of an old diesel Benz lover. It's less rusty than my daily driver, ya know. ;) Kind of a waste, but it's his money. If he really wants to have fun, though, he should chain down the engine mounts and then enter it in a demolition derby.
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
David Brodbeck wrote: OK Don wrote: It's from $2.99 to $2.95 here, with gas at $2.25 to $2.29. Just insane! I hear heating oil futures for November delivery are currently going for around $2.80/gallon. And that's the wholesale price! And there are NO taxes on the heating oil! There's more than a 20 cent federal and between 10 and 30+ cents of state taxes on diesel. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D power steering vibration
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 10/12/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS steering pump failures requiring replacements are quite rare. I can only find 3 or 4 references to replacing one in the more than half million problem reports I can access. I've NEVER had one fail myself. Are you SURE it's not a serp belt tensioner, lever, shock or idler problem or even the inside of the high pressure line collapsing (much more common than bad pump)? Serpentine belt tensioner, lever, shock, and idler were recently replaced... but now I wonder if something was done wrong that affected the PS pump somehow? How would I know if the high pressure line was collapsing? It looks normal, although I note that there is a visible coating of oil on the outside of both the high and low pressure lines within six inches or so of the pump. Can't tell whether it is coming from somewhere else or seeping through from inside. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo The oil around the PS reservoir usually is leakage from the the reservoir. After about 15 years the low pressure line may start to leak where it's clamped. That can usually be corrected at least temporarily by cutting off several inches of the line (if there is that much spare line). Start by cleaning the engine compartment - then once clean, determine where any leakage is coming from (before weather gets cold ;-). I know of no way to check the high pressure line except to disconnect it and see that it's unobstructed. I'm told by really experienced wrenches that high pressure lines can delaminate and collapse in on themselves if the line is pinched or twisted in an accident. There is USUALLY no outward appearance to indicate the line has delaminated. Same problem that exists with the flex brake lines. If it's bad, it's best to use a factory line (or at least NOT try to fabricate your own). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
Kaleb whined ( a minor whine): Whats diesel at over there? Its 2.94 while cas is 2.46. Something is screwy with that. What's screwy is I'm paying $3.199 for diesel and $2.899 for gas for her Acura. Yous guys are getting off cheap! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 141K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] OT: A guy can dream can't he?
who said anything about metalrgy? He asked what knurling was and I explained it nothing complicated there 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 07:59:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A guy can dream can't he? This is getting way too complicated here..Knurling the valve guides simply refers to making marks, or gouges on the outside of the guide in order to make it fit tighter into the head therefore it stays in place and does not allow oil past. No complicated metalurgy involved. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A guy can dream can't he? Knurling is actually a machining process that raises the metal and leaves sort of a bumpy cross hatch surface. Sometimes its used to recondition used pistons and valves instead of replacing with new. Knurling only works when the wear is not excessive and the used part is within wear specs and there are no cracks in the metal 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:28:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A guy can dream can't he? Ed Booher wrote: And what, exactly, is a Knurl, kind Sir? On 10/11/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knurling the valve guides fixed problem... Regards, Trampas That which is performed by a knurler! Becoming a lost art! May soon soon become only a legend along with viking, alchemist and truthful politician. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
[MBZ] Windshield code numbers
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Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
In a message dated 10/12/2005 12:19:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ahh let the diatribe begin! MAN TOO MUCH INFO
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease
In a message dated 10/12/2005 10:03:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marshall wrote: There are many greases that will meet the specification, but few are packaged in precisely the correct amounts as the Mercedes product is and few mechanics, much less DIYers have scales to weigh out the proper quantities as is required for proper application. The design of the bearing assembly and the grease specifications allowed the grease to be pumped thru the bearing assembly as long as the proper quantities were loaded into the correct compartments. ___ I replaced the front wheel bearing on a 124, last night. What a difference that made! It's now like a new car in quietness and handling. What is Marshall refering to by packaged in precisely the correct amounts? Each time I've bought that expesive super MB grease from the dealer or from Rusty, it came in a big toothpaste type tube that contained enough to repack about 2.5 wheels. No obvious way to measure each dose. Does Mercedes also sell this stuff in one dose foil packs or something? Failing that option, I guess we could measure it volumetrically with a tablespoon or some such. (It expect the density of grease is about 0.7gm/cc). Also, where is all the grease supposed to be placed? Where are these correct copartments? Inside each cage, between the rollers is obvious. And I know the cover cap is supposed to contain a measured amount. But is there supposed to be some placed inside the hub, between the inner and outer bearings? These details are not obvious in the shop manual. Ned Klienhenz NOO!!! oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes gods! forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless information !! collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
like I said, overpriced battery with their name on it. like a lot of things, slap a name on it and a 50% price increase and call it special. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:18:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ha! mercedes batteries, just a over priced battery with a cheap mercedes paper label Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings what are we i cant believeth it i would have thought we HAD to use only mercedes benz battery's you know some ppl in this group collins WHY? Marshall WELL. there is ALLWAYS the prolonged discourse regarding the following things a break fluid! b transmission fluid! c air conditioner refrigerant! d air conditioner compressors! e automotive glass! f wheel bearing torque ! g wheel bearing grease! h godonlyknowswhatelse! I i am surprised there have been no howls of protest no out rage !!! using a non MERCEDES BATTERY!?!!?( GASP), oh the humanity! ps since no one has raised it does mercedes makewindshield washer fluid ??? and will pep boys stuff work in a 500 sec ahh let the diatribe begin! Myth, heresy, ignorance, rumor, carelessness, inattention! Mercedes labeled batteries are FINE batteries. They also cost about the same as the DieHard Internationals and the top of the line Interstates (all are made by Johnson Controls and are of about the same quality and have a history of giving about equal service everything else being equal). The Johnson Control's batteries sold by Wal-Mart, Costco, Advance Auto, Pep Boys, Auto Zone, etc have about the same recent history of service and are from 20-50% less expensive. A Mercedes battery is not remotely a bad battery, just a fairly expensive one. A Mercedes battery MAY end up being an inexpensive alternative if you are stuck with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere. You can call Mercedes and they will bring you a new battery. They will NOT charge for the roadside installation or the service call - only the list price for the battery. That CAN be much cheaper than some of the alternatives. If you drive into a Mercedes dealership the cost WILL be much higher as they WILL charge labor for installation. SOME Mercedes products are GREAT values and some are unique. The was nothing like Mercedes anti-freeze available in the US until a few years ago and EVERYTHING else was quite inferior. Now Zerex G05 is available and is identical (Valvoline is using the Mercedes formula). You can use either, but be sure to change it every few years. Then there is Mercedes sunroof grease. NOTHING else will do the job properly. Some Mercedes products are GREAT values (rebuilt water pumps and rear wheel bearing repair kits used to be great bargains) and are often cheaper than aftermarket replacements. Some Mercedes parts are ONLY available from the factory (try and find an aftermarket radiator or exhaust system for a 190D 2.5 turbo in the US). Some aftermarket products have NEVER met Mercedes standards (use NOTHING but Mercedes pistons and cams). How many US makers can supply almost any part for a 30+ year old car within a few days. The pricing policies of a few dealerships (selling parts at 25% to 200% suggested list) make NOTHING they sell much of a value. Mercedes does NOT require that you use Mercedes brake fluid - just DOT-4+ changed at least every 2 years. They permit almost any Mercon/Dexron rated transmission fluid for all the 722.1, .2, .3, .4 transmissions (maybe .5 as well - not sure). The newer 722.6 series does require Mercedes specific fluid that's QUITE expensive, but it lasts 2-4X as long as conventional fluid. There is NO specific for refrigerant (the US government regulates refrigerant). Mercedes factory glass MUST meet certain European standards to be used in a car in Europe (it used to be quite a bit softer - not sure about now). Those standards were quite different than those imposed by the US, so the glass used had to meet BOTH standards. The replacement glass available from dealers in the US now, need only meet US standards. You can of course tighten your wheel bearings any way you choose, but if you don't service and tighten them the way Mercedes suggests, they are unlikely to last the life of the car (many last 400-500kmi or more if maintained as Mercedes suggests) and the car will NOT drive like a Mercedes (usually more like OLD, beat Chevy). As to Wheel bearing grease, the grease approved for Mercedes built before the mid '80s (a Shell product) was grease formulated and certified for use in a specific US fighter plane (may have been the F-15). For cars built after the mid '80s, a synthetic grease is all that's
Re: [MBZ] Windshield code numbers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.glasslinks.com/dot2.htm Neat list, but more glass than ANYBODY needs ;-) Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOO!!! oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes gods! forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless information !! collins 1985 500 sec You don't like it - I'll leave! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
well what you fail to understand is mercedes autos are made in the black forest by special elves who come out only at night! did you know that the air in the tires is not just regular air( good heavens no man!) its has been specially engineered by bosch for use in the space shuttle. it was specially introduced into each tire ,by hand, under pressure! you dont find this kind of engineering and pure brilliance in an old chevy and the electrons in the mercedes battery! well mercedes benz installs its own special duron coating to each electron of all or its battery's !!! TO insure that when properly charged it will provide 12 volts and that is all that is needed to start out very special cars! that is why you know now that i am retired now i get to sit around staring at the walls with plenty of time to compile the useless trivia any time i can be of help! collins 1985 500 sec
[MBZ] 1984 190D 2.2 $1000 OBO
I spotted this for sale today though it was posted a couple days ago. No mention of mileage but it needs a clutch acording to the owner. http://pdxforsale.com/View_Ad.php?id=191812 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently between diesels
Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
On 12-Oct-05, at 10:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well what you fail to understand is mercedes autos are made in the black forest by special elves who come out only at night! Daytime too, last time I was in Germany I noticed people working on the assembly line in the daylight. did you know that the air in the tires is not just regular air ( good heavens no man!) its has been specially engineered by bosch for use in the space shuttle. it was specially introduced into each tire ,by hand, under pressure! I've heard Costco in the USA will stick nitrogen in your tires, they use a pump tho. you dont find this kind of engineering and pure brilliance in an old chevy Ford will cheerfully recommend underinflating your Firestone tires in your Explorer so they blow up, would GM do the same? At least Mercedes seems to recommend tire pressure based on country conditions based on my reading of recommended tire pressures on same car between europe and NA. and the electrons in the mercedes battery! well mercedes benz installs its own special duron coating to each electron of all or its battery's !!! TO insure that when properly charged it will provide 12 volts and that is all that is needed to start out very special cars! that is why Battries aren't 12 volts, more like 12.6. if you stick the wrong one in your old chev it will not charge properly because the voltage regulator might not be set high enough. Older vehicles with voltage regulators set at about 14.0 volts simply will not fully charge lead/calcium or hybrid batteries. It would also appear the supplier of mbz batteries has been told to supply such that last 6/7/8 years. Versus the 3 year winner installed by the PO in my 83. You can install any battery you wish, but a bit of reading will indicate which should go the distance, or fail within a couple of years so you can weigh cost now versus towing etc later. Plus the industry is wanting to migrate to 42 volts... you know now that i am retired now i get to sit around staring at the walls with plenty of time to compile the useless trivia any time i can be of help! collins 1985 500 sec John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D 2.2 $1000 OBO
Yes but that would be an auto transmission component... car is an auto. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spotted this for sale today though it was posted a couple days ago. No mention of mileage but it needs a clutch acording to the owner. http://pdxforsale.com/View_Ad.php?id=191812 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently between diesels ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D 2.2 $1000 OBO
And that will cost about $1700.00 USD since you don't just go in and replace a clutch in an auto tranny.. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:56 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D 2.2 $1000 OBO Yes but that would be an auto transmission component... car is an auto. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spotted this for sale today though it was posted a couple days ago. No mention of mileage but it needs a clutch acording to the owner. http://pdxforsale.com/View_Ad.php?id=191812 Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently between diesels ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D 2.2 $1000 OBO
And that will cost about $1700.00 USD since you don't just go in and replace a clutch in an auto tranny.. BTDT with my 78 300D! I can't see the pictures to see how many pedals there are or any other features to let me know if it's a stick or auto, but since it's an auto, it's worth very little. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently between diesels
[MBZ] OT diesel pickup choices
Hello dieselers. Of course, I'm intending to get another MB diesel, but this next vehicle is going to haul stuff and tow my boat. I've decided to get a diesel ex-cab or crew cab pickup, and I've always wanted a Dodge with a Cummins turbo diesel in it. I've had Ford powerchokes before which were good trucks, but no Cummins dodges or GM diesels (don't think I'd consider one of those). Does anyone have any advice on older vs newer generation Cummins engins (of course 24V is more powerful), but which years should be avoided? Several listers have mentioned the killer dowel pin (KDP) that destroys expensive engine parts which is a very bad thing, but fixable. If anyone has experience with these, please chime in. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently between diesels
Re: [MBZ] Looking for engine - 1986 300SDL
In a message dated 10/12/2005 12:42:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for an engine to replace the one in my 86 300SDL. Cracked head. Any pointers? Brian, Where are you located? I have a lovely #14 head, all pressure tested and machine work done. If you are within range, I will buy your car and put that head on and drive it forever! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles
Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D 2.2 $1000 OBO
kevin kraly wrote: And that will cost about $1700.00 USD since you don't just go in and replace a clutch in an auto tranny.. Any chance it's a B2 piston? Never heard of it on a 190D, but...
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease
Hey Collins, I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add, stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious ignorance. Bob DuPuy Parrish, Fl 87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOO!!! oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes gods! forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless information !! collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people)
MAN...You guys need to lighten up on the coffee.I could see the OBVIOUS humor in the Mercedes Gods statement and unless i am sadly mistaken the comment was intended to raise no more than a smile in Marshall and not to offend. People are SOOO testy these daysIt really sucks! Are things really THAT bad? Mike - Original Message - From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease Hey Collins, I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add, stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious ignorance. Bob DuPuy Parrish, Fl 87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOO!!! oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes gods! forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless information !! collins 1985 500 sec ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know now that i am retired now i get to sit around staring at the walls with plenty of time to compile the useless trivia And you offer the list advice and expertise in which area? Sorry I seem to have missed it. Or are you spending YOUR retirement becoming intimate with Johnnie Walker? Mac Seems to me he is the class clown.All classes need one right Mike
Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
Full charging voltage on an old GM alt is 14.6V.Why won't that charge a certain type of battery? Mike - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings On 12-Oct-05, at 10:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well what you fail to understand is mercedes autos are made in the black forest by special elves who come out only at night! Daytime too, last time I was in Germany I noticed people working on the assembly line in the daylight. did you know that the air in the tires is not just regular air ( good heavens no man!) its has been specially engineered by bosch for use in the space shuttle. it was specially introduced into each tire ,by hand, under pressure! I've heard Costco in the USA will stick nitrogen in your tires, they use a pump tho. you dont find this kind of engineering and pure brilliance in an old chevy Ford will cheerfully recommend underinflating your Firestone tires in your Explorer so they blow up, would GM do the same? At least Mercedes seems to recommend tire pressure based on country conditions based on my reading of recommended tire pressures on same car between europe and NA. and the electrons in the mercedes battery! well mercedes benz installs its own special duron coating to each electron of all or its battery's !!! TO insure that when properly charged it will provide 12 volts and that is all that is needed to start out very special cars! that is why Battries aren't 12 volts, more like 12.6. if you stick the wrong one in your old chev it will not charge properly because the voltage regulator might not be set high enough. Older vehicles with voltage regulators set at about 14.0 volts simply will not fully charge lead/calcium or hybrid batteries. It would also appear the supplier of mbz batteries has been told to supply such that last 6/7/8 years. Versus the 3 year winner installed by the PO in my 83. You can install any battery you wish, but a bit of reading will indicate which should go the distance, or fail within a couple of years so you can weigh cost now versus towing etc later. Plus the industry is wanting to migrate to 42 volts... you know now that i am retired now i get to sit around staring at the walls with plenty of time to compile the useless trivia any time i can be of help! collins 1985 500 sec John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people)
You could be right Mike I have been trying to cut back to under five cups before lunch. Old Colon was poking at Marshall in other comments too and frankly I value his input much higher than Colons humor. I'll try to keep it light. Bob DuPuy On 10/13/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAN...You guys need to lighten up on the coffee.I could see the OBVIOUS humor in the Mercedes Gods statement and unless i am sadly mistaken the comment was intended to raise no more than a smile in Marshall and not to offend. People are SOOO testy these daysIt really sucks! Are things really THAT bad? Mike - Original Message - From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease Hey Collins, I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add, stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious ignorance. Bob DuPuy Parrish, Fl 87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOO!!! oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes gods! forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless information !! collins 1985 500 sec ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] cleaning engine
Marshall wrote in reference to somebody's power steering leak: Start by cleaning the engine compartment - then once clean, determine where any leakage is coming from (before weather gets cold ;-). Here's my question, what's the best way to clean a MB diesel engine. I am so paranoid about water frying some of the electronics or using too much water pressure and knocking off some vacuum line that resides in areas I could never get hand in. Donald H. Snook 90 300D 2.5 243K
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease
Collins, see what you have done? Repent! On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOO!!! oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes gods! forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless information !! collins 1985 500 sec You don't like it - I'll leave! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
Same here in Houston. 2.899 for Premium, Top Stuff, not regular. On 10/12/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb whined ( a minor whine): Whats diesel at over there? Its 2.94 while cas is 2.46. Something is screwy with that. What's screwy is I'm paying $3.199 for diesel and $2.899 for gas for her Acura. Yous guys are getting off cheap! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 141K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] paint damages
Come to the Gulfcoast. I can show you plenty. And drive-by is gratis. On 10/12/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My clear coat already looks like that -- where's a refinery I can drive past? On 10/12/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks just like mine, same color, exept my clearcoat looks wors and it took several years since the car had to park outdoors. You are in Houston, are you. UV is high and the air is not the cleanest. On 10/11/05, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people)
Bob, I guess I have just acquired the attitude that if they are poking fun at me then I guess they are leaving others alone and I could really care less...I buy, sell and build Suzuki four wheel drive parts and vehicles and get the same kind of stuff that we are talking about all the time. I have also learned(mostly from this group) that it is often VERY hard to judge if someone is being sarcastic or humorous when in text. I, as Marshall should be, would be offended as well if the comments truly were meant in a sarcastic manner as he IS a MBZ god in knowledge. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people) You could be right Mike I have been trying to cut back to under five cups before lunch. Old Colon was poking at Marshall in other comments too and frankly I value his input much higher than Colons humor. I'll try to keep it light. Bob DuPuy On 10/13/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAN...You guys need to lighten up on the coffee.I could see the OBVIOUS humor in the Mercedes Gods statement and unless i am sadly mistaken the comment was intended to raise no more than a smile in Marshall and not to offend. People are SOOO testy these daysIt really sucks! Are things really THAT bad? Mike - Original Message - From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease Hey Collins, I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add, stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious ignorance. Bob DuPuy Parrish, Fl 87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOO!!! oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes gods! forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless information !! collins 1985 500 sec ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries
Must be teritorial. Available only on special order here in town. On 10/12/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: You will not get the needed Group 49 battery at Wally World. Wal-Mart offers the following TWO batteries: MERCEDES-BENZ 300SD 1985-1981 L5 3.0L Brand Chosen: EverStart Available at WAL*MART_North Part# CCA Model SIZE 49-1 850 HIGH POWER 49 49-1 1000 HIGH POWER 49 This chart gives you the information you need to buy your battery. You can print your results and use the Store Locator to find the store closest to you. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Clunk in drivetrain, help
Good to know that. Sooner than later I have to address a leaking modulator. Seems a agreat opportunity to replace the mounts. On 10/12/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: I have the same happen on my '82 300SD. Only happens when the tranny shifts into first coming to a stop. Its doing this ever I had the car and doesn't seem to get any worse. That is OFTEN caused by the transmission mount having collapsed! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] engines
Well as marshall pointed out and which is correct, a quality used engine is going to be at least $2500. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: why would you replace the engine because the head is cracked? Because he thinks a used head will crack if bought separately, but not if he buys it uninspected and still on the engine. I think he should just get a used head, casting #17 thru #22. Certainly he should not buy a used engine if it has the same #14 head he has now. _ [BillR] Let me add a second to that. I made the serious mistake of believing a guy about his cheap used engine. $600 for engine and shipping [which I got back], $800 to transfer my good stuff to his 'complete' stripped engine, $960 to install and it would not even start [100lbs compression]. $1400 for another 'fully checked out 365 lbs compression' engine, $960 to install. 2 cracked rings. Replacement engine [#'s 2 3 from Potomac German] should be finished today [$500 to install, my mechanic gave me half off on one, and I should now have two engines to cannibalize and sell]. About $4500 total for a 'cheap' way to go. My advice, start with the best engine you can find and afford. It is the cheapest way to go. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 265K / 200K on engine [if this one checks out]
Re: [MBZ] Lay/lie
Would ...lay myself down be correct? On 10/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody said, so I will just go and lay down. That was humor and the rest of us caught it RLE ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] engines
thats why you always check the compresson of the engine on the ground before you even go to install it. BillR wrote: Well as marshall pointed out and which is correct, a quality used engine is going to be at least $2500. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: why would you replace the engine because the head is cracked? Because he thinks a used head will crack if bought separately, but not if he buys it uninspected and still on the engine. I think he should just get a used head, casting #17 thru #22. Certainly he should not buy a used engine if it has the same #14 head he has now. _ [BillR] Let me add a second to that. I made the serious mistake of believing a guy about his cheap used engine. $600 for engine and shipping [which I got back], $800 to transfer my good stuff to his 'complete' stripped engine, $960 to install and it would not even start [100lbs compression]. $1400 for another 'fully checked out 365 lbs compression' engine, $960 to install. 2 cracked rings. Replacement engine [#'s 2 3 from Potomac German] should be finished today [$500 to install, my mechanic gave me half off on one, and I should now have two engines to cannibalize and sell]. About $4500 total for a 'cheap' way to go. My advice, start with the best engine you can find and afford. It is the cheapest way to go. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 265K / 200K on engine [if this one checks out] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 1984 190D 2.2 $1000 OBO
Mitch Haley wrote: kevin kraly wrote: And that will cost about $1700.00 USD since you don't just go in and replace a clutch in an auto tranny.. Any chance it's a B2 piston? Never heard of it on a 190D, but... While a 722.4 series transmission has a B-2 band and piston and of course they CAN fail, that's quite rare unlike the B-2 piston on 722.3 series transmissions. Much more likely it is worn clutch packs! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
I've parked the 300D and started driving the E320 since diesel prices have risen to 3.19 and super unleaded has dropped to 2.89 here. The 300D gets around 23 MPG and the E320 around 21MPG, but the E320 is sooo much more fun to drive. I've seen a couple of places with diesel as high as 3.35. Wonder if they actually sell any? Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1984 300D 1995 E320 On 10/13/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here in Houston. 2.899 for Premium, Top Stuff, not regular.
Re: [MBZ] OT diesel pickup choices
One of the several things I do for a living is review new vehicles, and a month or so ago I was invited to a press event for the new Dodge Mega-cab pickups, and drove a couple--a six-speed and an auto--for a day. Sampled a Powerstroke and Duramax as well. Here are my impressions, for what they're worth. I can say that the new Cummins are MUCH quieter than the old ones. For detailed mechanical information on the Cummins, years, problems, etc. the place to get the straight dope is www.turbodieselregister.com. As much as I liked the cummins diesel, I think it may be overkill for your purposes, unless you've got a really large boat. THey really come into their own pulling huge, heavy trailers. Anything that fits into the box can be moved with far less muscle. Anyway, here are my notes: Mega-Cab INTERIOR It's big. It's REELY big. The back seat is the real news: even with the front seats at the rear limit of their tracks, there's first-class-like room to stretch out here, yet still room for storage behind the rear seat. The reclining seats lean way back to 37 degrees. The combination makes it possible for even a tall adult with boots on to sit back, relax, and doze off on a long trip. Tinted rear glass gives a limo-like feel. RIDE AND HANDLING The ride, even in the 2500, is excellent, without the constant, jiggling motion felt in the competition. Body roll, tracking, and on -center stability were good, and you could swing it through the twisties with confidence and surprising precision-though this is far too tall and heavy a vehicle to talk about cornering in the car sense. You feel like you're in the cab of a small semi. Steering ratio is deceptively quick, but the turning radius is huge. You snap it quickly to lock, then wonder why you need 4 lanes to make a U-turn. You've got to be very careful where you decide to turn around. DRIVE TRAIN The six-speed was excellent, with VERY close gears-most drivers will use only half the transmission (2, 4, 6) most of the time, as combined with the Cummins' lugging torque, they're really all you need unless you're doing heavy towing. Throw is short and shift and clutch effort are light for a truck, though hardly sportscarlike. The Dodge automatic felt fine-shifted decisively, with little hunting, and let the torquemonster Cummins do the work. For many drivers, the auto will make more sense, and probably will turn in equal real-world driving performance with a lot less driver input. For heavy towing, though, the six-speed rules. THE COMPETITION Chevy and Ford interiors are cheap looking by comparison. Ford was noticeably quicker-downright fast-with the Powerstroke, but the Ford automatic was busy, constantly shifting, and the steering was so numb it was actually difficult to keep in the center of the lane on winding roads. Chevy steering was better, but in interior noise (with the diesel) and ride-not to mention cab room-the Dodge has the others beat hands down. Unless you want to drag race, in which case the Ford edges ahead, in my mind there's no reason to buy anything but the Dodge. Hello dieselers. Of course, I'm intending to get another MB diesel, but this next vehicle is going to haul stuff and tow my boat. I've decided to get a diesel ex-cab or crew cab pickup, and I've always wanted a Dodge with a Cummins turbo diesel in it. I've had Ford powerchokes before which were good trucks, but no Cummins dodges or GM diesels (don't think I'd consider one of those). Does anyone have any advice on older vs newer generation Cummins engins (of course 24V is more powerful), but which years should be avoided? Several listers have mentioned the killer dowel pin (KDP) that destroys expensive engine parts which is a very bad thing, but fixable. If anyone has experience with these, please chime in. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently between diesels -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 13 14:19:23 2005 Received: from host337.ipowerweb.com ([72.22.69.22]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EQ3vX-0002b1-1y for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:19:23 + Received: (qmail 50766 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2005 14:18:14 - Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (206.109.43.202) by host337.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2005 14:18:14 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:19:12 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-ipwdcc-1-Metrics: host337.ipowerweb.com 208; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
Diesel in the city is $2.70 here...pure VO is $2.86 at Costco. Bulk pure VO is $2.68 (no filtering). 240D on whaterverthanol - not sure, prolly $1.00/gal. Chris --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: OK Don wrote: It's from $2.99 to $2.95 here, with gas at $2.25 to $2.29. Just insane! I hear heating oil futures for November delivery are currently going for around $2.80/gallon. And that's the wholesale price! And there are NO taxes on the heating oil! There's more than a 20 cent federal and between 10 and 30+ cents of state taxes on diesel. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222, ? deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
Because the voltage regulator is tired and is set too low... Fine for 60's batteries, not fine for 90's batteries. On 13-Oct-05, at 5:18 AM, Mike Canfield wrote: Full charging voltage on an old GM alt is 14.6V.Why won't that charge a certain type of battery? Mike - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
Oklahoma City area gas is $2.19 to $2.25, diesel is $2.89 to $2.97 On 10/13/05, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've parked the 300D and started driving the E320 since diesel prices have risen to 3.19 and super unleaded has dropped to 2.89 here. The 300D gets around 23 MPG and the E320 around 21MPG, but the E320 is sooo much more fun to drive. I've seen a couple of places with diesel as high as 3.35. Wonder if they actually sell any? Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1984 300D 1995 E320 On 10/13/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here in Houston. 2.899 for Premium, Top Stuff, not regular. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
uh...wow. The disparity in midtown KC is about 20 cents/gallon Chris --- Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oklahoma City area gas is $2.19 to $2.25, diesel is $2.89 to $2.97 On 10/13/05, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've parked the 300D and started driving the E320 since diesel prices have risen to 3.19 and super unleaded has dropped to 2.89 here. The 300D gets around 23 MPG and the E320 around 21MPG, but the E320 is sooo much more fun to drive. I've seen a couple of places with diesel as high as 3.35. Wonder if they actually sell any? Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1984 300D 1995 E320 On 10/13/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here in Houston. 2.899 for Premium, Top Stuff, not regular. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222, 12HP Kohler, ? deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] Break, etc.
That was I, deliberately using a common misconstruction of lie vs. lay to illustrate MY pet peeve. And I DO want to SHOUT about this abuse of the English language. On 10/12/05, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody said, so I will just go and lay down. That's LIE down. My peeve and my .02. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine
Donald Snook wrote: Marshall wrote in reference to somebody's power steering leak: Start by cleaning the engine compartment - then once clean, determine where any leakage is coming from (before weather gets cold ;-). Here's my question, what's the best way to clean a MB diesel engine. I am so paranoid about water frying some of the electronics or using too much water pressure and knocking off some vacuum line that resides in areas I could never get hand in. I slip a plastic baggy (maybe with a rubber band) over each sensor, temp switch and contacts - maybe half a dozen. Then I spray with a degreaser and finally with a hot or warm hose (when available - otherwise cold water). I try to keep water and degreaser off of the insulation surrounding the contacts on temp sensors and switches as they SEEM vulnerable to the degreasers. As to knocking off vacuum lines - take a couple of pictures of the vacuum lines (or make a drawing). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc
What should I expect from my non turbo 1976 115 300D automatic in terms of fuel mileage? Randy in Winnipeg
Re: [MBZ] Lay/lie
Yes. On 10/13/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would ...lay myself down be correct? On 10/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody said, so I will just go and lay down. That was humor and the rest of us caught it RLE ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine
Vacuum lines! We lined up a 1983 TD and 1985 300 CD turbodiesel to diagnose several vacuum related issues with my visiting friend's 1985 300TD back home and you wouldn't believe the complexity of the vacuum lines in the 1985 300CD vs. the 1983 300TD! It was almost like comparing a Model T cockpit to a new BMW. Are all those extra plastic spaghetti strands solely for the purpose of advanced vacuum control of the improved 1985 transmission? Otherwise, the two cars are comparably equipped and quite similar. On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Marshall wrote in reference to somebody's power steering leak: Start by cleaning the engine compartment - then once clean, determine where any leakage is coming from (before weather gets cold ;-). Here's my question, what's the best way to clean a MB diesel engine. I am so paranoid about water frying some of the electronics or using too much water pressure and knocking off some vacuum line that resides in areas I could never get hand in. I slip a plastic baggy (maybe with a rubber band) over each sensor, temp switch and contacts - maybe half a dozen. Then I spray with a degreaser and finally with a hot or warm hose (when available - otherwise cold water). I try to keep water and degreaser off of the insulation surrounding the contacts on temp sensors and switches as they SEEM vulnerable to the degreasers. As to knocking off vacuum lines - take a couple of pictures of the vacuum lines (or make a drawing). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc
22 mpg around Winnipeg, up to 27 on trips to Brandon. On 10/13/05, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should I expect from my non turbo 1976 115 300D automatic in terms of fuel mileage? Randy in Winnipeg ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Lay/lie
Andrew, Was Bob Dylan also incorrect As in: Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed Just an inquiring mind seeking knowledge.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 13 16:15:14 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.201]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EQ5jd-0007MQ-Np for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:15:14 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c3so435944nze for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:15:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=e9AgT9976YvjMy6da7rNW0YcGw/i67LK/ns8fZZPupG6ZcXuC36NzK4Rx4IHE5pKTt4Hdmi2O6+3zCREsI2O+8hym+o60gr4yL3O5sQ5oG22MjwBeZrphFkNDJwn0Kdlgb47knjRcXdfBmCLOaPUUT6yanWVicDFMx91el4x+2g= Received: by 10.37.22.45 with SMTP id z45mr1393352nzi; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.17 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:15:10 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Lay/lie X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:15:14 - Sorry to say the verse is indeed gramatically incorrect. But since he's one of my favorites, I will cut him lots of slack to go along with the artistic license he's to which he is entitled. BTW, I attended his first big NYC concert at Town Hall back in '63! On 10/13/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Was Bob Dylan also incorrect As in: Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed Just an inquiring mind seeking knowledge.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] hey OK don
Hans noted: Same here in Houston. 2.899 for Premium, Top Stuff, not regular. That's for regular...it's an '87 Acura. Premium is $3.199...My daughter tells me she regularly pays $3.409 for diesel for the Bug in Long Beach. Tough on a poor college student.. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 141K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/Pressure Washing
In a message dated 10/13/2005 6:22:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's my question, what's the best way to clean a MB diesel engine. I am so paranoid about water frying some of the electronics or using too much water pressure and knocking off some vacuum line that resides in areas I could never get hand in. Donald, I use Gunk Foamy Brite all over the engine compartment, let it absorb some of the heat of the engine then pressure wash the whole thing. The foamy type really seems to brighten the aluminum better. I even shortened my pressure washer wand to permit it to get in tighter places. I don't avoid anything on the diesel, including a direct stream on to the alternator (much like it might see in a heavy rain). In 25 years of pressure washing I don't recall one failure attributed to pressure washing. Knocking hoses off doesn't seem to happen. I pressure wash gas engines too. I try to avoid a high pressure stream directly on coils and distributors, but otherwise they get the same treatment. Just one man's experience, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles 94 Elorado, 91 K 94 Bravada, 161K 95 Mustang, 144K (for sale with a recently pressure washed engine)
Re: [MBZ] OT Lay/lie
Well Chuck, that depends if he knows the difference between '' then '' and '' than. ''
Re: [MBZ] garrett turbo parts
These people seem to know what they are talking about and offered to sell pieces parts: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=8005171262 Here is their response to my question: its a little more complecate than that, the turbo may be coked up, the oil drain port may have oil resadue built up not allowing the oil to drain properly, it may also be that when you use the 5w oil it is thinner so its easier for it to be pulled into the intake mainifold,can be cause by a lack of air from clogged air cleaner,could be all sorts of things these are just a few, but yes we can get you what ever parts you want, weekends are ussally a good time to bs about it if you have anymore ? thanks leo Hope this helps... -Dave Walton On 10/6/05, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a good source for Garrett parts? Constantine ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/Pressure Washing
i clean my 300sdl engine by putting some powerfull degreaser (biodegradable) in a pump sprayer of hot water, then spray a small stream where it needs it as many times as needed...the spray tip gets you in close and the tempo is slow...then you can use your shop air to chase off any wetness
Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc
That is reasonably consistent with what I am getting. I am doing about 24 around town and 28 on the highway. I thought it might do better than that but even that is not too shabby for a 30 year old car. Thanks for your input. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:45 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc 22 mpg around Winnipeg, up to 27 on trips to Brandon. On 10/13/05, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should I expect from my non turbo 1976 115 300D automatic in terms of fuel mileage? Randy in Winnipeg ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hurricane snow tires
In a message dated 10/6/2005 1:25:44 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 9 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:30:29 -0500 From: Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hurricane snow ties To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed David Brodbeck wrote: Russ Maki wrote: I prefer bags of playbox sand. Do the home improvement stores out there still sell those nifty long, thin, Quickrete Tubesand bags? Those were great. Yep. Home Depot seems to move a lot of them in the winter. I use bundles of roofing shingles. The cheap $7.00 bunbles weigh 60-70 lbs.each, are clean, take-up very little room, and if you get stuck, just place a couple under the rear wheels. Mike the lurker 83 300TD --
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine
andrew strasfogel wrote: Vacuum lines! We lined up a 1983 TD and 1985 300 CD turbodiesel to diagnose several vacuum related issues with my visiting friend's 1985 300TD back home and you wouldn't believe the complexity of the vacuum lines in the 1985 300CD vs. the 1983 300TD! It was almost like comparing a Model T cockpit to a new BMW. Are all those extra plastic spaghetti strands solely for the purpose of advanced vacuum control of the improved 1985 transmission? Otherwise, the two cars are comparably equipped and quite similar. Not at all - the OM61x vacuum systems changed almost every year. The diagrams are at http://www.peterschmid.com/vacuum.htm Most of the changes were related to emissions systems and gov't regulations (they really didn't like the fact that the EGR could be defeated) and by the late '80s they finally succeeded in making it difficult to defeat them. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc
R A Bennell wrote: What should I expect from my non turbo 1976 115 300D automatic in terms of fuel mileage? When everything is working perfectly - mid 20s in mixed driving, high 20s on the highway with a tailwind and a little luck. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] OT Lay/lie
To paraphrase our recent president, It depends what you mean by lay. And that was Jim Croce, I believe. Andrew, Was Bob Dylan also incorrect As in: Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed Just an inquiring mind seeking knowledge.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Break, etc.
Nobody here speaks English. That's what them silly folks on the other side of the pond do. We speak American and need to start calling it that. The rules are mostly the same. Plain and simple. Luther, only a Music major with an English petpeeve -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 13, 2005 11:08 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Break, etc. That was I, deliberately using a common misconstruction of lie vs. lay to illustrate MY pet peeve. And I DO want to SHOUT about this abuse of the English language. On 10/12/05, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:44:01AM -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote: Vacuum lines! We lined up a 1983 TD and 1985 300 CD turbodiesel to diagnose several vacuum related issues with my visiting friend's 1985 300TD back home and you wouldn't believe the complexity of the vacuum lines in the 1985 300CD vs. the 1983 300TD! It was almost like comparing a Model T cockpit to a new BMW. Are all those extra plastic spaghetti strands solely for the purpose of advanced vacuum control of the improved 1985 transmission? Otherwise, the two cars are comparably equipped and quite similar. Or more interesting, I changed the oil last night in the 87 300D and noticed a disconnected vacuum line. Grabbed the keys to the 87 300TD to compare, and noticed that the factory looms were routed way different. Because of this, the lengths of the hoses were different. Caught me off guard for a minute, but the color coding pointed me in the right direction. Car seems to shift a lot better now, we'll see if it fixes the flaring in the 2-3 shift. Moral of the story: I guess same year same engine same chassis (both 124) isn't enough similarity... K
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 65
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:51:53 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] engines To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed thats why you always check the compresson of the engine on the ground before you even go to install it. BillR wrote: The first engine was one that the seller 'knew the car personally and it ran great'. He lied somewhere in there. Mechanic has a diesel compression setup, but only for installed engines. That second engine came with a complete check-out and full compression test printed out showing 365 lbs / cylinder from Potomac German. All I could have done is taken my small knowledge of MB diesels to the parts supplier [third engine came from Maryland] and requested they do it again with me watching. I wouldn't have known any more than I did. Perhaps the indy doing the checks was having a lazy day. Engine #3 came from the sellers personal car [Potomac German employee] and he says it runs as it should and he changed the oil every 3k. I have had to trust my mechanic [AutoWorx in Melbourne], a very good choice; and trust the suppliers, a bad and questionable choice. I love the car enough that I will be happy if my $4500 gives me a good and reliable car. It is my sincere hope that this engine outlasts me, and with my updated plumbing I plan to stick around for awhile. BillR Jacksonville FL 300SD EM 265K / 200K engine - maybe
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine
Kevin wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:44:01AM -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote: Vacuum lines! We lined up a 1983 TD and 1985 300 CD turbodiesel to diagnose several vacuum related issues with my visiting friend's 1985 300TD back home and you wouldn't believe the complexity of the vacuum lines in the 1985 300CD vs. the 1983 300TD! It was almost like comparing a Model T cockpit to a new BMW. Are all those extra plastic spaghetti strands solely for the purpose of advanced vacuum control of the improved 1985 transmission? Otherwise, the two cars are comparably equipped and quite similar. Or more interesting, I changed the oil last night in the 87 300D and noticed a disconnected vacuum line. Grabbed the keys to the 87 300TD to compare, and noticed that the factory looms were routed way different. Because of this, the lengths of the hoses were different. Caught me off guard for a minute, but the color coding pointed me in the right direction. Car seems to shift a lot better now, we'll see if it fixes the flaring in the 2-3 shift. Moral of the story: I guess same year same engine same chassis (both 124) isn't enough similarity... K There are OFTEN mid model year revisions. Sometimes it requires the VIN number to be sure (and that isn't always foolproof) and many of the smallest changes aren't included in ANY service literature. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc
If you are talking US gallons, then I am a bit on the low side. I am managing 21 around town and only about 23 on the highway in US gallons. In Imperial gallons, it is about 24 around town and 28 on the highway. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:16 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc R A Bennell wrote: What should I expect from my non turbo 1976 115 300D automatic in terms of fuel mileage? When everything is working perfectly - mid 20s in mixed driving, high 20s on the highway with a tailwind and a little luck. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc
R A Bennell wrote: If you are talking US gallons, then I am a bit on the low side. I am managing 21 around town and only about 23 on the highway in US gallons. In Imperial gallons, it is about 24 around town and 28 on the highway. Tire pressure at the low end of or below acceptable (below about 30 psi) will drop economy 10-20% Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Yinglish?
Yikes! We are two nations separated by a common language Winston Spencer Churchill (partial misquote) Fred Moir Lynn MA Dieselitis Maximus
Re: [MBZ] Hurricane snow tires
Sounds like a cost-effective way to seriously sprain your back! On 10/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/2005 1:25:44 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 9 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:30:29 -0500 From: Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hurricane snow ties To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed David Brodbeck wrote: Russ Maki wrote: I prefer bags of playbox sand. Do the home improvement stores out there still sell those nifty long, thin, Quickrete Tubesand bags? Those were great. Yep. Home Depot seems to move a lot of them in the winter. I use bundles of roofing shingles. The cheap $7.00 bunbles weigh 60-70 lbs.each, are clean, take-up very little room, and if you get stuck, just place a couple under the rear wheels. Mike the lurker 83 300TD -- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine
Marshall, how can I obtain a vacuum line diagram for a 1985 300TD? On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:44:01AM -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote: Vacuum lines! We lined up a 1983 TD and 1985 300 CD turbodiesel to diagnose several vacuum related issues with my visiting friend's 1985 300TD back home and you wouldn't believe the complexity of the vacuum lines in the 1985 300CD vs. the 1983 300TD! It was almost like comparing a Model T cockpit to a new BMW. Are all those extra plastic spaghetti strands solely for the purpose of advanced vacuum control of the improved 1985 transmission? Otherwise, the two cars are comparably equipped and quite similar. Or more interesting, I changed the oil last night in the 87 300D and noticed a disconnected vacuum line. Grabbed the keys to the 87 300TD to compare, and noticed that the factory looms were routed way different. Because of this, the lengths of the hoses were different. Caught me off guard for a minute, but the color coding pointed me in the right direction. Car seems to shift a lot better now, we'll see if it fixes the flaring in the 2-3 shift. Moral of the story: I guess same year same engine same chassis (both 124) isn't enough similarity... K There are OFTEN mid model year revisions. Sometimes it requires the VIN number to be sure (and that isn't always foolproof) and many of the smallest changes aren't included in ANY service literature. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Your mileage may vary etc
Our 1983 300TD with 276 K miles is down to about 20 mpg in mixed driving. No serious fuel leaks so I guess it's the aging process... On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R A Bennell wrote: If you are talking US gallons, then I am a bit on the low side. I am managing 21 around town and only about 23 on the highway in US gallons. In Imperial gallons, it is about 24 around town and 28 on the highway. Tire pressure at the low end of or below acceptable (below about 30 psi) will drop economy 10-20% Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] OM603 hot restart problem
Hi all, My 1987 300D has started (pun intended) to have an intermittent problem with hot starts. It's fine on cold starts - fires up instantly. It's not bad on a hot restart if the car has only been shut off for a few minutes. But if it sits for, say, 15-60 minutes (not sure the exact time frame), it has to crank for a couple of seconds instead of firing up immediately like it should. I can't figure out what would cause this... anyone have any ideas? Remember, after sitting overnight it starts instantly... it's not a major problem yet, but I'd like to correct it before it gets worse! Also - it's not related to fuel level in the tank (same thing with full tank or empty tank). Power is normal, as is pretty much everything else... :-) Best regards, -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 259kmi (Sportline)
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine
andrew strasfogel wrote: Marshall, how can I obtain a vacuum line diagram for a 1985 300TD? http://www.peterschmid.com/1984_617.htm Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT diesel pickup choices
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 01:15:09AM -0700, kevin kraly wrote: Of course, I'm intending to get another MB diesel, but this next vehicle is going to haul stuff and tow my boat. I've decided to get a diesel ex-cab or crew cab pickup, and I've always wanted a Dodge with a Cummins turbo diesel in it. I've had Ford powerchokes before which were good trucks, but no Cummins dodges or GM diesels (don't think I'd consider one of those). Does anyone have any advice on older vs newer generation Cummins engins (of course 24V is more powerful), but which years should be avoided? Several listers have mentioned the killer dowel pin (KDP) that destroys expensive engine parts which is a very bad thing, but fixable. If anyone has experience with these, please chime in. If you're not shelling out the big cash for a new truck (say after 00 for a GM, 03 for a dodge or ford), you have three choices: - dodge, which the engine will outlast the truck by billions of miles. Plan on replacing or doing serious work on the transmission as the autos don't deal with that kind of torque when towing for long, and the five speed manuals have a nut that falls off if you lug the transmission. The front end parts don't like 1300 lbs of weight hanging off it, so front suspension parts don't last long. The 24v had an electronic pump that could be problematic, but for the most part behaved itself. - gm, which did the poorest in fuel economy, had the same five speed manual problems as the dodge (but not as often since the cummins had more torque and seemed to get lugged around more), had the least amount of torque of the three, and had serious problems with its electronic injector pump. The IP is expensive to replace, and doesn't last very long, especially if the ECU or the lift pump aren't up to snuff. If you get one of these, bribe kaleb with a dead 115 for how to rewire the thing to keep the thing from going low voltage and taking out $2000 worth of parts. The duramax has plenty of power and gets more competitive mileage, but I stay well away from them - they make an overcomplicated powerchoke seem like an OM616 by comparison. - ford, the power leader by a long shot. Catch is the autos can't take it for long because the same brain children who stuffed the garbage truck engine in a pickup think that a torque converter from a 460 will work. BT. The front end gets sloppy as the miles get high, the engine is incredibly hard on oil (but so is the duramax now), and cavitation is an issue that can be scary if buying a used vehicle that wasn't properly maintained. Or, do like me. I ended up with the infamous powerchoke, and unsatisfied with any of the offerings from the big three, am setting out to build one. I have an 80s K30 crew cab dually that will get a 12v cummins. Best engine, most solid suspension (before chevy put that IFS junk in trucks), and a body that parts are dirt cheap for. I hope to start working on it this winter, but who knows how that will go. K
