Re: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I cant get any in there on the 126, not enough room.

LT Don wrote:


I have always been able to remove mine (W123, of course) with a pair of
Channel Locks.

On 1/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126).
Before I have taken a chisel and was able to turn it by beating it with
a hammer and chisel in the proper direction but no luck so far.  Dont
have a socket big enough and would buy one but not sure what size.
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 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Curt Raymond]

How flat is the battery in it? How long did you leave the booster cables hooked 
up before you tried to start the car?
  When I'm boosting my 240D I leave the cables connected for at least 5 
minutes. If the battery is down enough that I need to boost it its going to 
take some time to get back up to where it'll start the car.
  I have very good, heavy booster cables by the way, cheap ones will get really 
hot when you're slamming power through them to a flat battery. You can really 
heat 'em up boosting a 6v tractor off a 12v pickup, not too bad if you're quick 
but my Great uncle had some cheapie cables for awhile and ended up burning the 
end off one.
   
  You can't start the car purely off the booster cables, your cables don't make 
a good enough connection, you need to let the battery in the car pick up some 
charge before you try to start.
   
  -Curt
  '83 240D "Hammie" 251kmi
  '85 190D "Dory" 233kmi
   
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I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it 
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very 
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to 
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
electrical 
system?

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OK, slowing working out the little bugs with the euro 5.0 in the US 380. 
   I figured out this thing has a throttle position sensor which is 
located under the air meter deal, fuel distributor etc right on the side 
of the throttle body.  The euro engine has a wire with a flat 2 lead 
connector, the US car and another US car I have here has a round 3 lead 
connector for the sensor.  I have a high idle of 900-1K rpm and am 
assuming this is probably the cause.  I also seem to have a very slight 
surge when maintaining the same speed going down the road which also 
leads to this.  Anyways, Im assuming Im going to have to swap the 
sensors.  Any way of doing this short of removing the whole injection 
system?

Thinking about taking the whole thing off anyways and putting the US 
version back on.  On the US version there is a wire that is supposed to 
hook up to some sort of valve just to the left of the fuel dist.  There 
is a small fuel line that comes out of the fuel dist that goes to this 
valve with the electrical connection, then if goes back out of this 
valve and around to another valve on the back of the fuel dist that has 
a vacuum connection on it.  From there I think it goes to the warm up 
regulator but cant remember off hand. The euro motor does not have this 
setup with that valve and therefor the wire is not hooked to anything 
for it.  Anybody know what this is for and what it causes when not 
hooked up?  Think I should put the US stuff on the euro motor or just 
swap the throttle sensor and leave it at that?  With the US injection 
parts on the euro motor, will it decrease the power?  Im sure nobody 
will know much about this since this is sort of new territory but 
thought I would ask.
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Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good

[Curt Raymond]

>Well, a Farmall is geared rather lower than a 240D, so I'd expect that.
>My favorite tractor I grew up around was our Farmall 200.

  Mine's a Super M, it also out weighs the truck by something like 2000# which 
doesn't help. Tractors are easier to tug start with a full sized pickup. We had 
an interesting time this fall starting it when my Dad apparently didn't realize 
how light the Dakota is, I'd just barely got us moving when he had the clutch 
out in SECOND gear. This was all on wet grass and the Dakota just hung on the 
end of the chain and spun the tires. I put the truck in park, got out, looked 
things over and gave him a long look.
  "3500# truck Pop, 5500# tractor. Second gear is pretty low doncha think?" He 
got a little sheepish, the next run he let me get a little momentum working for 
us and all was well.
   
  >> Should I check resistance at the plug and then at the heater? How does 
>> the plug connect to the heater, just a press fit?

>Exactly.  Most I've seen are press-fit, but I have one that also has a
>screw collar kind of like a speedometer cable.  It's on the 
>Frankenheap.

  My neighbors can continue to think I'm crazy, I'll be out there with a 
flashlight and multimeter in a little bit.
  I talked to the kid who wants to buy the car today, we work together. He 
laughed at my not wanting to put any money into it, this gets to be a better 
deal for him all the time.
   
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I just bought one at autozone, 1 7/8 I think was the size, it worked 
well but was 10 bucks for 1 socket. Next question, how do you remove the 
outer tube part to clean up the inside?

Jim Cathey wrote:

>>What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126).
> 
> 
> 46mm, IIRC.  I have a cheap on-sale Harbor Freight 3/4" metric socket
> set I use for this, and other big duties.
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Re: [MBZ] 450hp 126

[jjayj]

i'm triing to imagine how much stuff would have to be strengthened on my SDL to 
handle the additional 300 horsepower...hmmm

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> Why not claim that you gain one gallon every 100 miles?? 
> 
> Thanks, 
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> 
> 
> Kaleb wrote: 
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> 
> 
> "The crack ebay seller just replied to me, he says it was dyno rated at 
> 
> 450hp. He really is on crack." 
> 
> 
> 
> He is really trying to claim that is true? 
> 
> 
> 
> That would make it powerful than the 2006 Corvette (400hp top speed 186 
> mph) and only slightly less powerful than the 2006 Z06 (500 hp and top 
> speed of 198 with a 0-60 time of 3.7 seconds.) This guy is either on 
> crack or he thinks that the people looking at his ad are on crack. 
> 
> 
> 
> I think when I put the 1992 Olds 98 on ebay I will claim that it has 400 
> hp and gets 45 mpg. 
> 
> 
> 
> Donald H. Snook 
> 
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> i'm triing to imagine how much stuff would have to be strengthened on my SDL 
> to > handle the additional 300 horsepower...hmmm

Injection pump, turbocharger, intercooler and transmission for starters.

IP would need big modifications, turbo would need to be replaced
with much larger, big intercooler purchased and plumbed, tranny can
probably make do with valve, governor and modulator changes.

[MBZ] Flt computer - E6B?

[wilton strickland]

New-fangled E6B?  Go to www.wiltonstrickland.com for photo of my E6B (behind
the book, In The BUFF) that has never needed a battery.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good

[John Berryman]

On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 08:15 US/Eastern, Curt Raymond wrote:



  -Curt
  '83 240D "Hammie" 251kmi
  '85 190D "Dori" The delay fish 233kmi



	Here's the sure start cold weather recipe: a real good battery and 
starter, a functioning pre-glow system, extra valve clearance, Mobil 1, 
block heater not needed above 0 degrees F. A hard wired timer and 
dedicated circuit for the outlet you plug your block heater into.
	There is definitely an art to starting a diesel in a cold climate. I 
have a black-belt in cold start. I live in the Adirondack region of NY 
and drive MB diesels exclusively.



Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] 82 300SD For Sale Peoria

[LT Don]

You're not going to grab it?   :-)

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> A friend of mine at the MB dealership told me about a 82 SD for sale in
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> Peoria area.  It is white, and supposed to be in good
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> like
> $2500 would buy it, although it was priced at $2995
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> Contact Steve Wayland 309 676 1105
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Re: [MBZ] Report on $700 KC 300D

[Christopher McCann]

Loren, not sure who you had look at it, but now I  feel ***REALLY*** SORRY that 
I wasn't able to look at it for you. Would  have saved you a wasted trip. 
Sorry, brother.
  
  Chris

Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I took a look at the "300D" in KC over 
the weekend, thanks to Chris 
M.  Before I left, I had determined that it was a 300SDL.  A 124 300D, I 
would have snapped up.  This SDL needed some serious work, or was a parts 
car.  Aside from needing a trans, it needed a windshield, ball joints and 
probably everything else in the front end, exhaust system, driver's seat, 
work on the sunroof,  RF fender repainted and the left side doors 
re-aligned.  IF that work was done, you'd have a 315K SDL that was showing 
signs that the cancer worms might bloom next summer.  The engine appeared 
to be in top condition, except for needing a couple of glow plugs.

In essence, it was a Kaleb car.  It would have been a great parts car, as 
all the sheet metal was straight and I only found putty in the LR 
door.  The hood, radiator support and RF fender had been replaced.

They guy who bought it was from Des Moines.   The seller said the buyer had 
a rusty SDL with a good engine and trans and was going to put his trans in 
this car.  It was not Dan W.  Whoever it is belongs on this list.  Had the 
guy from DM not bought it I was going to point it out to Kaleb and everyone 
else on the list.

I met up with my brother and we spent the weekend salvaging Scout and IH 
pickup parts near Manhattan KS.  So the trip had a dual purpose, and my 
wife never knew i looked at another car in KC!

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> were not up to the higher wattage bulbs due to the electrical system. 
> If you
> acquire bigger wattage bulbs, you may wish to do a little checking to 
> ensure
> that you do not end up in the dark suddenly with your wiring harness on
> fire.

Absolutely!  I'd never put in overwattage bulbs without doing
some investigation.  Relays would almost certainly be required.

But it works exceedingly well for US rounds that have been
replaced with E-codes.  Such as 107/115/116/123.  Our for-sale
450 SL has 400W of high beams: wunderbar!  Story:

http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLlights.html

Even the Frankenheap has relayed auxiliary high beam driving lights.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[BillR]

I always use at least two sets of cables if they are not very heavy duty.
That seems to work.
BillR 

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Alan Duff wrote:
> 
> I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it 
> using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very 
> slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot 
> to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
> electrical system?

I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get hot, 10ga
cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent them from starting a
car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.

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Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD headlight adjustment question

[BillR]

Tom - In my 300SD those long ones are the headlight adjustments.  It seemed
to me that they were a tad slow to make much difference, but they did line
mine up after a few tries.  I also had loose screws holding on the metal
frame that holds in the sealed beam headlights; you might check those.  To
get to them you need to take off the white [or black] knobs you already know
about and slide out the plastic frame.  You will need to loosen the turn
light one to get the main plastic covers to slip in and out.
BillR
Jacksonville FL  
1981 300SD  EM  270k 

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Greetings -
 
My headlights are way off - point at the ground basically, and the right one
is good at lighting up the shoulder.  I thought I had it figured out what
adjusts the lights, but this turned out not to be the case - there are white
knobs that just hold the assembly in (loosening one on the side allowed the
turn signal assembly to slide forward, for example), and there are black
plastic-handled knobs that don't appear to do much - though I am suspecting
these are the adjusters?  These are long and almost look like they are
designed for a wrench - but turning them didn't do anything - unless maybe I
am missing something else that needs loosened first (the white ones maybe?).
I was trying to figure this out on a deserted road with an LED flashlight
(in the cold
too) so I may have missed something obvious.

Thanks in advance for any advice on what I should be looking for and what
effect each adjuster (once identified) has...idea being that if I have more
of an idea what to do I might actually pull this off w/out having to take it
to a body shop

Tim C.

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Potter, Tom E]

This is the only type I use. Anything less is a waste of money IMHO.

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Alan,

...The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of
2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I
looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously
heavy-duty cables.

[MBZ] 82 300SD For Sale Peoria

[Loren Faeth]

A friend of mine at the MB dealership told me about a 82 SD for sale in the 
Peoria area.  It is white, and supposed to be in good condition.  According 
to the guy at the dealership, it has been well maintained.  It sounded like 
$2500 would buy it, although it was priced at $2995


Contact Steve Wayland 309 676 1105

Caeat emptor  Happy hunting

Re: [MBZ] 450hp 126

[Donald Snook]

Tom H. wrote:

 

"Why not claim that you gain one gallon every 100 miles??"

 

, that's a idea.  I could say that it actually creates excess
fuel.  A buyer could get this car and start making gasoline.  Sort of
like the guy with the 123 240D.  

 

I can just see it now:

 

"Needs $2-3K work, but when you get all that done you can sell it for
$9000 and make yourself some real money."

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1992 Olds 98 (600HP) collectors item, runs on potato peels (5 pounds a
week) and produces platinum as a by-product.  122K miles.  Leather
seats, will make you look like a pimp.  Hookers will throw money in the
windows when you drive through the hood.  For Sale

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

[R A Bennell]

Don't know if it applies to cars, but my recollection is that some bikes
were not up to the higher wattage bulbs due to the electrical system. If you
acquire bigger wattage bulbs, you may wish to do a little checking to ensure
that you do not end up in the dark suddenly with your wiring harness on
fire.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs


> Sadly, PowerBulbs no longer carries overwatt "Rally" bulbs, but Dan
> Stern can get them.

I buy my overwattage Hx bulbs at NAPA.  The key word is 'motorcycle'.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit

[R A Bennell]

Oops, I think I read too fast. I'm talking about the filter drain doodad on
the tank bottom and it appears you are talking about the sending unit.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit


Was there not a thread on here a while back that suggested a spark plug
socket was the right size? You use it sort of backwards. The extension needs
to go in through the end where the plug normally would and the hex end on
the socket serves as a big allen wrench.

Randy

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To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit


What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126).
Before I have taken a chisel and was able to turn it by beating it with
a hammer and chisel in the proper direction but no luck so far.  Dont
have a socket big enough and would buy one but not sure what size.
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[R A Bennell]

Also make sure you have a good ground attachment. I boosted my wife's car
with my pickup a couple of weeks ago and initially it did not want to go. I
moved the ground clamp on the pickup to a different spot and it cranked fine
and went right away.

Randy

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question


Alan,

In my experience, jump-starting a diesel - whether it's a little VW
diesel, or an MB diesel - is very different than your typical gas
engine. To make a long story somewhat shorter, I finally learned that
6 gauge, or even 4 gauge, booster cables are nearly useless. 2 gauge
is barely adequate, but it's hard to find anything larger unless you
make them yourself from welding cable. The smaller cables make the
engine turn over very slowly. Bigger cables, or doubling-up two
pairs of smaller ones, made a HUGE difference even on my little VW
diesel 4-banger.

The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of
2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I
looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously
heavy-duty cables.

While your 300SD *could* have some other electrical issues, my money
is on the booster cables you were using. Try bigger ones, or simply
get the battery fully charged - that will eliminate that possibility
quickly. If a fully-charged Group 49 battery is having trouble
spinning the engine, you either have wiring problems, or a starter
going out.

:-)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 -
> From: "Alan Duff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
>
> I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
> using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
> slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
> the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
> system?
>
> Alan Duff
> Knoxville, TN

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Re: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit

[John Berryman]

On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 15:38 US/Eastern, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126).
Before I have taken a chisel and was able to turn it by beating it with
a hammer and chisel in the proper direction but no luck so far.  Dont
have a socket big enough and would buy one but not sure what size.
-


From memory 42mm or 36mm, whichever one fits. I hope you're not using a 
chisel on a GAS TANK , a brass punch won't spark.
	If you have a 3/4" drive socket set you may have the right size in 
there.


Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] 450hp 126

[Tom Hargrave]

Why not claim that you gain one gallon every 100 miles??

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

 

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] 450hp 126


Kaleb wrote:

 

"The crack ebay seller just replied to me, he says it was dyno rated at 

450hp.  He really is on crack."

 

He is really trying to claim that is true?  

 

That would make it powerful than the 2006 Corvette (400hp top speed 186
mph) and only slightly less powerful than the 2006 Z06 (500 hp and top
speed of 198 with a 0-60 time of 3.7 seconds.)  This guy is either on
crack or he thinks that the people looking at his ad are on crack. 

 

I think when I put the 1992 Olds 98 on ebay I will claim that it has 400
hp and gets 45 mpg. 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL arriving soon to a neighborhood near you (assuming your
neighborhood runs along an interstate between Tampa and Wichita) 

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Re: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit

[LT Don]

I have always been able to remove mine (W123, of course) with a pair of
Channel Locks.

On 1/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126).
> Before I have taken a chisel and was able to turn it by beating it with
> a hammer and chisel in the proper direction but no luck so far.  Dont
> have a socket big enough and would buy one but not sure what size.
> --
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>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> http://www.striplin.net
>
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Re: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit

[R A Bennell]

Was there not a thread on here a while back that suggested a spark plug
socket was the right size? You use it sort of backwards. The extension needs
to go in through the end where the plug normally would and the hex end on
the socket serves as a big allen wrench.

Randy

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:39 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit


What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126).
Before I have taken a chisel and was able to turn it by beating it with
a hammer and chisel in the proper direction but no luck so far.  Dont
have a socket big enough and would buy one but not sure what size.
--
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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[John Berryman]

On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 15:25 US/Eastern, Alan Duff wrote:


I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
electrical

system?

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN



It takes serious jumper cables to start a diesel. I make mine from 
welding cable. Jumping from a running vehicle helps too.


Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

[Jim Cathey]

Sadly, PowerBulbs no longer carries overwatt "Rally" bulbs, but Dan
Stern can get them.


I buy my overwattage Hx bulbs at NAPA.  The key word is 'motorcycle'.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Jim Cathey]

I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
electrical

system?


It's a bad battery combined with too-wimpy jumper cables.  I was
unable to jump-start our SDL when its battery went dead, for this
very reason.  If the cables don't look like welding cable there's
no way they will jump-start any diesel, except maybe a new TDI
or something.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD headlight adjustment question

[Jim Cathey]

example), and there are black plastic-handled knobs that
don't appear to do much - though I am suspecting these are
the adjusters?


These are the adjusters.  One thing that can happen is that
the inside plastic bits that they hook to crumble and send
your lights off cattywompus, and unadjustable.  I've repaired
them before with Shoe Goo.

-- Jim

[MBZ] 450hp 126

[Donald Snook]

Kaleb wrote:

 

"The crack ebay seller just replied to me, he says it was dyno rated at 

450hp.  He really is on crack."

 

He is really trying to claim that is true?  

 

That would make it powerful than the 2006 Corvette (400hp top speed 186
mph) and only slightly less powerful than the 2006 Z06 (500 hp and top
speed of 198 with a 0-60 time of 3.7 seconds.)  This guy is either on
crack or he thinks that the people looking at his ad are on crack. 

 

I think when I put the 1992 Olds 98 on ebay I will claim that it has 400
hp and gets 45 mpg. 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL arriving soon to a neighborhood near you (assuming your
neighborhood runs along an interstate between Tampa and Wichita) 

Re: [MBZ] size of fuel sending unit

[Jim Cathey]

What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126).


46mm, IIRC.  I have a cheap on-sale Harbor Freight 3/4" metric socket
set I use for this, and other big duties.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Luther Gulseth]

Ought cables RULE!

- Original Message 
From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:09:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question


Alan Duff wrote:
> 
> I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
> using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
> slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
> the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
> system?

I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get
hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent
them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.

Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Dave M.]

Alan,

In my experience, jump-starting a diesel - whether it's a little VW
diesel, or an MB diesel - is very different than your typical gas
engine. To make a long story somewhat shorter, I finally learned that
6 gauge, or even 4 gauge, booster cables are nearly useless. 2 gauge
is barely adequate, but it's hard to find anything larger unless you
make them yourself from welding cable. The smaller cables make the
engine turn over very slowly. Bigger cables, or doubling-up two
pairs of smaller ones, made a HUGE difference even on my little VW
diesel 4-banger.

The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of
2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I
looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously
heavy-duty cables.

While your 300SD *could* have some other electrical issues, my money
is on the booster cables you were using. Try bigger ones, or simply
get the battery fully charged - that will eliminate that possibility
quickly. If a fully-charged Group 49 battery is having trouble
spinning the engine, you either have wiring problems, or a starter
going out.

:-)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 -
> From: "Alan Duff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
>
> I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
> using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
> slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
> the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
> system?
>
> Alan Duff
> Knoxville, TN

Re: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no, johns has like 345k miles on it.

Donald Snook wrote:


Kaleb wrote:

 


"Both John Gregg and Todd wrecked theirs in the last week or so."

 


I guess I missed that. That is very sad. Wasn't John's really low miles
with a new transmission?  Is it totaled? 

 

Sorry to hear about that. 

 

 


Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL  122K miles arriving soon

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 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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[MBZ] size of fuel sending unit

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

What size socket is needed to remove the fuel tank sending unit? (126). 
Before I have taken a chisel and was able to turn it by beating it with 
a hammer and chisel in the proper direction but no luck so far.  Dont 
have a socket big enough and would buy one but not sure what size.

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Donald Snook]

Kaleb wrote:

 

"Both John Gregg and Todd wrecked theirs in the last week or so."

 

I guess I missed that. That is very sad. Wasn't John's really low miles
with a new transmission?  Is it totaled? 

 

Sorry to hear about that. 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL  122K miles arriving soon

Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Potter, Tom E]

Mitch is correct. The cheapo jumper cables won't cut it with a diesel.
Get some good cables.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:09 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

Alan Duff wrote:
> 
> I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
> using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
> slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot
to
> the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the
electrical
> system?

I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get
hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent
them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Tom Hargrave]

Alan,

More than likely it's small diameter cables and a completely dead battery.
You need jumper cables made from least 8 gauge wire to jump start without
help from the vehicle's battery and even 8 gauge will get warm. It helps a
lot to let the vehicle's battery charge 15 minutes through the jumper cables
before trying to start.

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question


I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
system?

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Jeff Zedic]

It's very tough to jump start a diesel because they use a LOT of juice. 
You're better off putting a better battery in it to start the car.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto

Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Mitch Haley]

Alan Duff wrote:
> 
> I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
> using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
> slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
> the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
> system?

I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get
hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent
them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.

[MBZ] 83 300SD headlight adjustment question

[Tim C]

Greetings -
 
My headlights are way off - point at the ground basically, 
and the right one is good at lighting up the shoulder.  I 
thought I had it figured out what adjusts the lights, but 
this turned out not to be the case - there are white knobs 
that just hold the assembly in (loosening one on the side 
allowed the turn signal assembly to slide forward, for 
example), and there are black plastic-handled knobs that 
don't appear to do much - though I am suspecting these are 
the adjusters?  These are long and almost look like they are 
designed for a wrench - but turning them didn't do anything - 
unless maybe I am missing something else that needs loosened 
first (the white ones maybe?).  I was trying to figure this 
out on a deserted road with an LED flashlight (in the cold 
too) so I may have missed something obvious.

Thanks in advance for any advice on what I should be looking 
for and what effect each adjuster (once identified) 
has...idea being that if I have more of an idea what to do I 
might actually pull this off w/out having to take it to a 
body shop

Tim C.

Re: [MBZ] 450hp 126

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh he didnt provide one

Tom Hargrave wrote:


And the link is..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:51 PM
To: Banned List m; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] 450hp 126


The crack ebay seller just replied to me, he says it was dyno rated at 
450hp.  He really is on crack.


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] 450hp 126

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, thats the one

Sunil Hari wrote:


which dyno?  The one that rates a 115 240D at 200HP?

I mean, it's a Benz - it's got to be powerful.



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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

[Alan Duff]

I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it 
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very 
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to 
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical 
system?

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good

[R A Bennell]

I would start out just checking continuity on the block heater to ensure
that the element is not open. Then check for continuity to ground to see if
it is shorted out. If that checks out, you could check the resistance as
well. Ohms law will tell you how big the heater is. E = I X R & P = E X I
( E is Voltage which we know is 110 to 120) (P is watts which we can
determine with the voltage and the resistance)

If it does not check out at the plug end of the cord, then suspect the cord
to start with and pull it out and check it or else check the element at the
block.

Randy

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good


DUH I can't believe I had that backwards, of course I should be in a lower
gear for roll starting, what a chucklehead. I think I may have gotten it in
my head because its nearly impossible to pull start my Farmall tractor with
my Dakota in any gear lower than 3th (of 5) because the truck is too light.

  Should I check resistance at the plug and then at the heater? How does the
plug connect to the heater, just a press fit?

  I know that batteries lose capacity, my assumption was its good to start
with more capacity since I'll be losing it...

  -Curt

  Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:13:40 -0800
From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> The battery charger dropped to 2a within about 15 min indicating to
me
> that the cold and the inverter had just taken the surface charge off
> the battery and the block heater had done nothing.

Yeah, it wasn't doing what you expected.  Check the cord, and check
that it is plugged into the heating element on the block as well.
They _do_ burn out, but they're fairly easy to replace.  (But _not_
that easy to put in the first time.)  Cord problems are just as likely
however, that's a harsh environment for a power cord, so you need
to get your meter onto the heating element's pins as well if there's
a problem in order to be sure of what you need.

>   When the starter was dying I was using 3rd to start with, todays
> shot with 4th was an experiment which I'm thinking didn't work out so
> well. I'd thought 4th would help get rpms up but apparently its
> difficult to overcome the resistance of the engine in that gear.
Maybe
> tonight I'll experiment with a couple starts in each gear.

You have it backwards.  The _lower_ the gear the faster the engine
spins.  But, too low and the wheels just skid on the ground, wasting
all that hard-earned energy.  (Hard-earned in our case, 'cause it was
usually a push start we were trying.  If you were lucky you had a
brother or friend or two along, and the pushing was much easier.
I got quite adept at starting the Falcon solo, until a new starter
cured its problem.  Believe me you also got very good at evaluating
slope when you went to park, and you _never_ parked in a hole 'cause
if you did it was guaranteed that you'd need to push it.  It was
_always_ second gear [of three] that worked for me, btw.  One would
just skid, and three rolled the engine over too slowly to start.)

> (which has a 1000cca battery vs Hammie's 900cca) so I'm somewhat
> loathe to spend any money on Hammie.

Pffft.  Measure them and see whether those ratings are still (or ever
were) any good.  Those numbers change a _lot_ over the life of a
battery.  You need a carbon pile battery tester to do that, though.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

[John Berryman]

On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 13:21 US/Eastern, Brian Chase wrote:

The starter turned the engine real slowly, then not at all. That's the 
nutshell of my saga.



So who signed the death certificate on your original engine?

Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

[John Berryman]

On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 09:31 US/Eastern, Harry Watkins wrote:


 the PO
gave me a box with two headlight and one tail light assembly, IIRC, 
they

came off the car at conversion into the US.



I'm sure you know about the headlights, the tail lights should be the 
one with the rear fog light in it.


Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

[Dave M.]

Hi Harry,

For a UK test on standard, +30, and +50 bulbs, download this Zip file
and open the enclosed HTML files:

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/general/bulb_tests2.zip

In a nutshell, the +50 bulbs will give you the best performance.
However, these are not sold on the shelf in the USA. You have to buy
them from a place that imports them, or buy from overseas. As someone
already mentioned, the SilverStars sold in the USA are *not* the same
as the SilverStars sold in Europe. Very stupid marketing, IMO. As I
mentioned before, these are the way to go if you don't want to bother
with relays and therefore need stock wattage. The tradeoff is cost and
shorter lifespan. You can buy the "good" bulbs from one of these two
places - there may be others, but these are the ones I have memorized:

http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html

Sadly, PowerBulbs no longer carries overwatt "Rally" bulbs, but Dan
Stern can get them. I'm not too crazy about RallyLight's selection,
since their page either doesn't state the brand of the bulb, or they
have Hella, who is not know for making great bulbs. To a certain
extent it's probably semantics, as not many people would likely tell
the difference with the naked eye, between two bulbs of the same watt
rating. (?)

:-)

-Dave M.


> --
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:31:08 -0600
> From: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs
>
> Dave asked:  "What were your plans that are now kinked?"
>
> Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set of Sylvania
> Silverstars, one of the tested sets.  The other four were:  APC  Plasma
> Ultrs White; GE Nighthawk; Philips Crystal Vision and Wagner TruView.
>
> I am interested in your offer to post more information.  I need to be
> schooled on identification, where to look for what so I can tell what I
> have.  MY Wagon has the best lights and when I bought the 300D Euro, the PO
> gave me a box with two headlight and one tail light assembly, IIRC, they
> came off the car at conversion into the US.
>
> Harry Watkins
> Newton, MS

Re: [MBZ] Can't post to list

[Zeitgeist]

Walt, you need a Gmail invite.  Gmail will fix this problem, once and
for all.  Let me know if you'd like one.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

[Lee Levitt]

Dave,

I ordered the high performance 50%+ bulbs. I think they're H4 and H1 or H4
and H3, can't remember off hand what goes into the ecode lamps...

Lee 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave M.
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs
> 
> Lee, what brand/model bulbs did you order? I'm curious to 
> hear what you get, and how they work. Another source is 
> www.powerbulbs.com and they do ship from across the pond.
> 
> :)
> 
> +dm
> 
> > 
> --
> > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:03:14 -0500
> > From: "Lee Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs
> >
> > Harry writes:
> > >
> > > Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set of 
> > > Sylvania Silverstars, one of the tested sets.  The other 
> four were:  
> > > APC  Plasma Ultrs White; GE Nighthawk; Philips Crystal Vision and 
> > > Wagner TruView.
> >
> > Check out www.rallylights.com. I ordered a set of their high 
> > performance bulbs for the ecode lamps I'm installing in my W124. 
> > Haven't got them in yet, so I can't comment on the results.
> >
> > Lee
> > '93 300D 2.5 181K
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Re: [MBZ] OT :Electronic Flt Computer (E6B) For sale

[OK Don]

Strange - my E6B doesn't need a battery --

On 1/16/06, W. Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Flight Computer (electronic E6B)
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Ply Grand Voyager 78K

Re: [MBZ] 450hp 126

[Tom Hargrave]

And the link is..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

 

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Subject: [MBZ] 450hp 126


The crack ebay seller just replied to me, he says it was dyno rated at 
450hp.  He really is on crack.
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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 450hp 126

[Sunil Hari]

which dyno?  The one that rates a 115 240D at 200HP?

I mean, it's a Benz - it's got to be powerful.

On 1/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The crack ebay seller just replied to me, he says it was dyno rated at
> 450hp.  He really is on crack.
> --
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>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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[MBZ] 450hp 126

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The crack ebay seller just replied to me, he says it was dyno rated at 
450hp.  He really is on crack.

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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.

[Marshall Booth]

ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:

What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate
in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the
wheel well?  It's been dry since being re-painted this fall, but not really
driven in the rain.  Saturday night, I went thru some thunderous downpours
and bad crosswinds, and Sunday AM, ICE  The seal on the trunklid was
replaced but I would have thaught if that was leaking, I'd see more
evidence.  I know there's a vent down there somewhere, but are they
troublesome?

Today it's 4 degrees, and it's still frozen sold ;-(, but when it thaws
out, where do I start looking?

And another question...the panel on the back of the passinger's seat has
fallen off.  No clue has to how it happened.  Do they just snap back on, or
are there some screws and/or clips that keep them in place.


Rear taillight seals are known to often leak as they age. There can also 
be leaks from the trunk lid seals OR even from the emblem or trunk lock 
mounting holes. Finally, the rear window seal is a common source of water.


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Models that have the same transmission as the 300 SD.

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have done it, nothing to it.

John Berryman wrote:


On Sunday, Jan 15, 2006, at 22:04 US/Eastern, Nick Wellinghoff wrote:


Does anyone know, have a list, or know how I can find out what models 
of

Mercedes have the same transmission that is in the 1982 300 SD?  I am
searching for used transmission locally and am getting a lot of 
replays from
people with similar models that say "it might" work in an 82 300 SD.  
Any

information or model listing with equivalent transmissions will be
gratefully appreciated.




	300SD has an electronic speedo, most other models don't. That can be 
overcome. TDs should have bigger clutch-packs everything from about 
81-82 on has the 722.3x. Converting the speedo drive I cannot tell you 
about but somebody on this list has done it.


Johnny B
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Can't post to list

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yep, not a thing I can do about it, its a juno deal.

Mitch Haley wrote:


"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:


I can't seem to post to the list from either of my addresses.



Looks like you posted this from Juno.
Still sending in a funky format so that the server strips
the content however.

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 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Report on $700 KC 300D

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

somebody already bought it?  Darn.  it was only $700?  Double darn.

Loren Faeth wrote:

I took a look at the "300D" in KC over the weekend, thanks to Chris 
M.  Before I left, I had determined that it was a 300SDL.  A 124 300D, I 
would have snapped up.  This SDL needed some serious work, or was a parts 
car.  Aside from needing a trans, it needed a windshield, ball joints and 
probably everything else in the front end, exhaust system, driver's seat, 
work on the sunroof,  RF fender repainted and the left side doors 
re-aligned.  IF that work was done, you'd have a 315K SDL that was showing 
signs that the cancer worms might bloom next summer.  The engine appeared 
to be in top condition, except for needing a couple of glow plugs.


In essence, it was a Kaleb car.  It would have been a great parts car, as 
all the sheet metal was straight and I only found putty in the LR 
door.  The hood, radiator support and RF fender had been replaced.


They guy who bought it was from Des Moines.   The seller said the buyer had 
a rusty SDL with a good engine and trans and was going to put his trans in 
this car.  It was not Dan W.  Whoever it is belongs on this list.  Had the 
guy from DM not bought it I was going to point it out to Kaleb and everyone 
else on the list.


I met up with my brother and we spent the weekend salvaging Scout and IH 
pickup parts near Manhattan KS.  So the trip had a dual purpose, and my 
wife never knew i looked at another car in KC!


Loren
Still only 2 SDLs


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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Both John Gregg and Todd wrecked theirs in the last week or so.

Donald Snook wrote:


Who wrecked theirs?   That is a VERY NICE car. I bet that car cracks the
$10,000 mark.  

 


Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 


300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Dave M.]

Wow! A diesel 124 with leather! Those are awfully rare in the 1990-95
range. The pleated leather door panels look so much nicer than
flat, perforated Tex. The final price was a little high, IMO, but
probably reasonable considering the car is barely broken in at 56kmi.
Then again, if it was a little old lady who drove one mile each way to
church and the grocery store...!

;-)

+dm

> --
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:32:10 -0600
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs
>
> 

Re: [MBZ] this seller is clueless

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

EXACTLY.  If the dude really paid as much as he said he did down in the 
questions section they he got ripped off.


Sunil Hari wrote:


Sure it has 78Kmi ... Also, how could he have the gall to name all that's
wrong with it and expect more than $4000.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] greedy sellers.  This guy has a $1000 car.

On 1/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-Antique-Mercedes-Benz-240D-with-78k-orig-miles_W0QQitemZ4604108637QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

[Dave M.]

Lee, what brand/model bulbs did you order? I'm curious to hear what
you get, and how they work. Another source is www.powerbulbs.com and
they do ship from across the pond.

:)

+dm

> --
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:03:14 -0500
> From: "Lee Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs
>
> Harry writes:
> >
> > Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set
> > of Sylvania Silverstars, one of the tested sets.  The other
> > four were:  APC  Plasma Ultrs White; GE Nighthawk; Philips
> > Crystal Vision and Wagner TruView.
>
> Check out www.rallylights.com. I ordered a set of their high performance
> bulbs for the ecode lamps I'm installing in my W124. Haven't got them in
> yet, so I can't comment on the results.
>
> Lee
> '93 300D 2.5 181K

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

Only difference is mechanics actually need to perform to collect a bill, 
Doctors don't have to fix anything yet they still are allowed to 
forceably collect money for non service. if a mechanic tried that, he'd 
be in serious trouble.


Most mechanics spend far more time diagnosing a problem on a car than 
doctors do on a human, strange since a human is supposed to so much more 
complex.
at least when a mechanic rips you off, you can publically say he's 
either a crook or a moron, make those statements about a DR and you 
could wind up in court.


I'm just waiting for the day a doctor brings a car to my shop. I think 
I'll keep it for a few days, tell him there's nothing wrong with the 
thing...it's just depressed, suggest that he have the car talk to 
someone and send him a bill for $1500 and pursue it vigorously .


--Robert, who after 20 years of Dr's saying nothings wrong and 
charging big for it, finds out that all my bones and joints are 
disintegrating fast and I'm shopping for wheelchairs soon.
( to qualify, I did finally find a guy with a clue...after it's too late 
to do anything about it. but 20 years...come on,I could have bought a 
new car every 2 years on what I've been paying those clowns )


Brian Chase wrote:
Larry, I had to reply - I couldn't feel more the same on this 
(regarding the doctors I've seen in recent experience). I know I'm 
going to offend some - probably my wife if she read this - but it 
seems like docs want to remain non-commital in their answers. Maybe 
its all the law suits. And yes, they are so annoyed when I ask 
questions. I'm tempted to say to them "But my TV is always telling me 
"Ask your doctor!! Talk to your doctor!!""


Anyhow, yes, the list has been invaluable in this quest of mine - 
especially due to a handful of ya. I can speak in a more informed 
manner to those I have to deal with - vendors, mechanics, etc. Do 
appreciate it.


Brian
83 240D


From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:55:10 -0500

Brian wrote:>

Hi Brian,
Hopefully this list will help those non-DIYer's a little - at least 
we can
provide some knowledge you wouldn;t be armed with otherwise. I hope 
we've

helped you a little in this situation? ;-)

You mentioned doctors - now, maybe the doctors out there will know 
how *we*
feel when they start using 10 syllable words, seem to be irritated 
when we
ask questions and act like they're in a hurry to get to the next 
patient!


;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression


> Tri Star comes recommended by this list. They are recommended by a
> mechanic
> that I was referred to by this list. Well, not actually recommended by
> him,
> but he said it's better that I'm going with them than with some of the
> others around there.
>
> They seem to be a well-known outfit. The thing that's filling me with
> distrust is the sound of the guy I have spoken to - not what I 
expected

> from
> a sharp outfit - more like some of the doorknobs I've dealt with 
from your

> average run-down junk yard - but on the other hand, I would feel
> suspicious
> of someone that sounded too polished. It didn't help that I got
> conflicting
> information about every time I called. Add to this the generally shady
> nature of the salvage business, and you see why I'm trying to think of
> worst-cases.
>
> Forgive me if I've asked the same question twice - just being 
human. It is
> interesting to hear that it's not necessary to have the tranny 
attached in

> order to mount and run the starter. However, it's a thin line when one
> starts to tell one's mechanic that they know better than they do (you
> don't
> want to piss off your chef or waiter too much before you get your 
meal).

>
> Yeah, Larry, if I was close to your area, I might take you up on 
the help.
> In fact, I'm not even close to my car right now (I'm in MN, it's in 
AZ) so

> I'm relying on this indy.
>
> I spoke with a different guy at Tri Star on the phone yesterday, and I
> asked
> him some things. He said that their process when they get a car 
from an
> auction or elsewhere is to try to start the engine if it has oil, 
etc. If

> it
> doesn't start, they don't try again 'til someone puts down money on 
it.

> This
> is apparently the case 

Re: [MBZ] 220D Questions

[Jim Cathey]

Frankenheap's actual web site: http://cathey.dogear.com/frankenheap.html

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good

[Jim Cathey]

I think I may have gotten it in my head because its nearly impossible 
to pull start my Farmall tractor with my Dakota in any gear lower than 
3th (of 5) because the truck is too light.


Well, a Farmall is geared rather lower than a 240D, so I'd expect that.
My favorite tractor I grew up around was our Farmall 200.

Should I check resistance at the plug and then at the heater? How does 
the plug connect to the heater, just a press fit?


Exactly.  Most I've seen are press-fit, but I have one that also has a
screw collar kind of like a speedometer cable.  It's on the Frankenheap.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 220D Questions

[Jim Cathey]

So I've been mistaken all this time? I thought the "Frankenheap" and 
the other famous ride "Gump" were 123s. But they're both 115s? I know 
they're not both yours.


Both 115's, yes indeed.  Frankenheap's photos and other vital statistics
are available on its web site: http://cathey/dogear.com/frankenheap.html
The heap is a Euro 4sp 200D, formerly with a column shifter.  I
also bought Casey's blackberry farm Gumpenheap-to-be 115, but sold
it off in turn to a neighbor.  When running again, it ought to be
a notably better car than the heap.

I've seen a photo of Gump (I think), but not lately.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Models that have the same transmission as the 300 SD.

[John Berryman]

On Sunday, Jan 15, 2006, at 22:04 US/Eastern, Nick Wellinghoff wrote:



Does anyone know, have a list, or know how I can find out what models 
of

Mercedes have the same transmission that is in the 1982 300 SD?  I am
searching for used transmission locally and am getting a lot of 
replays from
people with similar models that say "it might" work in an 82 300 SD.  
Any

information or model listing with equivalent transmissions will be
gratefully appreciated.



	300SD has an electronic speedo, most other models don't. That can be 
overcome. TDs should have bigger clutch-packs everything from about 
81-82 on has the 722.3x. Converting the speedo drive I cannot tell you 
about but somebody on this list has done it.


Johnny B
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[MBZ] Re" nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Donald Snook]

I can't believe that car went for over 13K. It is a nice car, but WOW!
Somebody got a nice car!

 

 

That is a VERY NICE car. I bet that car cracks the $10,000 mark.

 

Already has.

 

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Re: [MBZ] eBay crack seller

[Sunil Hari]

I'll say - for one thing, the fuel tank is in the wrong place ...

On 1/16/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Uh, this is an interesting looking TD..
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Billion and billions of emails

[Curt Raymond]

A friend of mine was telling me about one of his dad's bikes that did the same 
thing. My suggestion that it might be the rubber brake line was met with scorn. 
It was about 2 weeks later when out of desparation they tried replacing that 
front line, since then everything has been fine...
   
  My '82 Honda CB900 will be getting new rubber brake lines this spring, the 
brakes weren't releasing like they should toward the end of the season.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:13:19 -0500
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My brother has a RD350 2 cylinder 2 stroke and it is fast. Back when I 
was
into motorcycles it would run with my 1982 750cc Honda Magnum. 
Basically
both were faster than I wanted to go. 

Last time I visited my brother he had just got a 1000cc bike and was 
telling
me how fast it was. So I took it for ride, road up the road and the 
bike
would only get up to about 90MPH, where I normally on a small bike I 
could
at least hit 100MPH. On the way back the max it would do was about 
50MPH.
When I slowed down to make turn I realized why when the front breaks 
locked
up. When I told my brother he said "Yeap it does that sometimes!" 

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Re: [MBZ] 220D Questions

[Brian Chase]

So I've been mistaken all this time? I thought the "Frankenheap" and the 
other famous ride "Gump" were 123s. But they're both 115s? I know they're 
not both yours.


Brian
83 240D


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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:40:15 -0800

> The 220D is about 4 seconds slower then the 240D (same transmission).
> Mercedes rates fuel economy of the 220D about 3 mpg better.

Another difference I'd mention is that the 220D might have an oil-bath
(element) air filter, and an oil-bath (you) oil filter.  Most would
consider the later paper air element to be superior, at least in
terms of cleanliness, and _everybody_ would consider the later
top-access oil filter canister to be superior.

Supposedly a 240D head will bolt right onto a 200D/220D motor, and
I believe the Frankenheap has one of these.  Supposed to breathe
a little better that way.  All I know is that the Frankenheap
is eminently drivable.  (Stickshift.)

> and bad side. Friends that owned early 115s seemed to have a lot of
> rust
> problems - especially front inner fenders. Not as bad in the 240Ds (I
> owned a pair of them).

Earlier 115's I've seen have metal plates covering the interior space
behind the fender.  Later ones had plastic.  Don't know if that was the
significant difference or not.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good

[Curt Raymond]

DUH I can't believe I had that backwards, of course I should be in a lower gear 
for roll starting, what a chucklehead. I think I may have gotten it in my head 
because its nearly impossible to pull start my Farmall tractor with my Dakota 
in any gear lower than 3th (of 5) because the truck is too light.
   
  Should I check resistance at the plug and then at the heater? How does the 
plug connect to the heater, just a press fit?
   
  I know that batteries lose capacity, my assumption was its good to start with 
more capacity since I'll be losing it...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:13:40 -0800
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> The battery charger dropped to 2a within about 15 min indicating to 
me 
> that the cold and the inverter had just taken the surface charge off 
> the battery and the block heater had done nothing.

Yeah, it wasn't doing what you expected.  Check the cord, and check
that it is plugged into the heating element on the block as well.
They _do_ burn out, but they're fairly easy to replace.  (But _not_
that easy to put in the first time.)  Cord problems are just as likely
however, that's a harsh environment for a power cord, so you need
to get your meter onto the heating element's pins as well if there's
a problem in order to be sure of what you need.

>   When the starter was dying I was using 3rd to start with, todays 
> shot with 4th was an experiment which I'm thinking didn't work out so 
> well. I'd thought 4th would help get rpms up but apparently its 
> difficult to overcome the resistance of the engine in that gear. 
Maybe 
> tonight I'll experiment with a couple starts in each gear.

You have it backwards.  The _lower_ the gear the faster the engine
spins.  But, too low and the wheels just skid on the ground, wasting
all that hard-earned energy.  (Hard-earned in our case, 'cause it was
usually a push start we were trying.  If you were lucky you had a
brother or friend or two along, and the pushing was much easier.
I got quite adept at starting the Falcon solo, until a new starter
cured its problem.  Believe me you also got very good at evaluating
slope when you went to park, and you _never_ parked in a hole 'cause
if you did it was guaranteed that you'd need to push it.  It was
_always_ second gear [of three] that worked for me, btw.  One would
just skid, and three rolled the engine over too slowly to start.)

> (which has a 1000cca battery vs Hammie's 900cca) so I'm somewhat 
> loathe to spend any money on Hammie.

Pffft.  Measure them and see whether those ratings are still (or ever
were) any good.  Those numbers change a _lot_ over the life of a
battery.  You need a carbon pile battery tester to do that, though.

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Re: [MBZ] Billion and billions of emails

[Trampas]

My brother has a RD350 2 cylinder 2 stroke and it is fast. Back when I was
into motorcycles it would run with my 1982 750cc Honda Magnum. Basically
both were faster than I wanted to go. 

Last time I visited my brother he had just got a 1000cc bike and was telling
me how fast it was. So I took it for ride, road up the road and the bike
would only get up to about 90MPH, where I normally on a small bike I could
at least hit 100MPH. On the way back the max it would do was about 50MPH.
When I slowed down to make turn I realized why when the front breaks locked
up. When I told my brother he said "Yeap it does that sometimes!" 

Trampas

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In a message dated 1/8/2006 9:59:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
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Steve,

Sorry, can't help you with your email  problem but your very cool 64  Yamaha

350 caught my eye.  How fast  can those things really go?

Cheers,

Bruce


I have never tried it. It is sitting in the garage for about ten years now.

It is missing a plastic throttle linkage connector, needs to have forks 
rebuilt,  no battery, and the tires hold air but are cracked on the sides.
Bike 
other wise  in pretty and near prestine with exception of some rust on
tailpipe.  
 
steve
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression

[Brian Chase]

Larry, I had to reply - I couldn't feel more the same on this (regarding the 
doctors I've seen in recent experience). I know I'm going to offend some - 
probably my wife if she read this - but it seems like docs want to remain 
non-commital in their answers. Maybe its all the law suits. And yes, they 
are so annoyed when I ask questions. I'm tempted to say to them "But my TV 
is always telling me "Ask your doctor!! Talk to your doctor!!""


Anyhow, yes, the list has been invaluable in this quest of mine - especially 
due to a handful of ya. I can speak in a more informed manner to those I 
have to deal with - vendors, mechanics, etc. Do appreciate it.


Brian
83 240D


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:55:10 -0500

Brian wrote:<>

Hi Brian,
Hopefully this list will help those non-DIYer's a little - at least we can
provide some knowledge you wouldn;t be armed with otherwise.  I hope we've
helped you a little in this situation?  ;-)

You mentioned doctors - now, maybe the doctors out there will know how *we*
feel when they start using 10 syllable words, seem to be irritated when we
ask questions and act like they're in a hurry to get to the next patient!

;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression


> Tri Star comes recommended by this list. They are recommended by a
> mechanic
> that I was referred to by this list. Well, not actually recommended by
> him,
> but he said it's better that I'm going with them than with some of the
> others around there.
>
> They seem to be a well-known outfit. The thing that's filling me with
> distrust is the sound of the guy I have spoken to - not what I expected
> from
> a sharp outfit - more like some of the doorknobs I've dealt with from 
your

> average run-down junk yard - but on the other hand, I would feel
> suspicious
> of someone that sounded too polished. It didn't help that I got
> conflicting
> information about every time I called. Add to this the generally shady
> nature of the salvage business, and you see why I'm trying to think of
> worst-cases.
>
> Forgive me if I've asked the same question twice - just being human. It 
is
> interesting to hear that it's not necessary to have the tranny attached 
in

> order to mount and run the starter. However, it's a thin line when one
> starts to tell one's mechanic that they know better than they do (you
> don't
> want to piss off your chef or waiter too much before you get your meal).
>
> Yeah, Larry, if I was close to your area, I might take you up on the 
help.
> In fact, I'm not even close to my car right now (I'm in MN, it's in AZ) 
so

> I'm relying on this indy.
>
> I spoke with a different guy at Tri Star on the phone yesterday, and I
> asked
> him some things. He said that their process when they get a car from an
> auction or elsewhere is to try to start the engine if it has oil, etc. 
If

> it
> doesn't start, they don't try again 'til someone puts down money on it.
> This
> is apparently the case with my engine, as the dude I dealt with said 
that

> once I faxed my CC number, he'd have the mechanic pull the engine out of
> the
> car and it would be compression checked and started up (and according to
> this second guy, also leak-down checked). If the engine was no good, I'd
> get
> the next one down the line (which had some 250k miles on it, so the 
price

> would be adjusted down) So for one reason or another my engine wouldn't
> start while still in its car. I've already mentioned how very easy it
> would
> be for them to deliver me the higher mileage engine rather than the 
nice,

> fresh one. It would be going against human nature not to do so.
>
> So for those of us not as mechanically inclined as most of the list, 
it's

> a
> big time matter of trust. For the general population, mechanics, just 
like

> doctors, plumbers, lawyers, etc. etc. have us just where they want us.
> Do-it-yourself-ers are fortunate indeed.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
>>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:04:19 -0500
>>
>>Hi Brian,
>> This may have been asked already - what is Tri-Star's reputation?  
Is

>>there anything like the rating on eBay where vendors are rated?  I know
>>BBB
>>will record problems - but my experience is their info is not helpful
>>unless
>>the vendor has screwed

[MBZ] Report on $700 KC 300D

[Loren Faeth]

I took a look at the "300D" in KC over the weekend, thanks to Chris 
M.  Before I left, I had determined that it was a 300SDL.  A 124 300D, I 
would have snapped up.  This SDL needed some serious work, or was a parts 
car.  Aside from needing a trans, it needed a windshield, ball joints and 
probably everything else in the front end, exhaust system, driver's seat, 
work on the sunroof,  RF fender repainted and the left side doors 
re-aligned.  IF that work was done, you'd have a 315K SDL that was showing 
signs that the cancer worms might bloom next summer.  The engine appeared 
to be in top condition, except for needing a couple of glow plugs.


In essence, it was a Kaleb car.  It would have been a great parts car, as 
all the sheet metal was straight and I only found putty in the LR 
door.  The hood, radiator support and RF fender had been replaced.


They guy who bought it was from Des Moines.   The seller said the buyer had 
a rusty SDL with a good engine and trans and was going to put his trans in 
this car.  It was not Dan W.  Whoever it is belongs on this list.  Had the 
guy from DM not bought it I was going to point it out to Kaleb and everyone 
else on the list.


I met up with my brother and we spent the weekend salvaging Scout and IH 
pickup parts near Manhattan KS.  So the trip had a dual purpose, and my 
wife never knew i looked at another car in KC!


Loren
Still only 2 SDLs

Re: [MBZ] Can't post to list

[Mitch Haley]

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> I can't seem to post to the list from either of my addresses.

Looks like you posted this from Juno.
Still sending in a funky format so that the server strips
the content however.

[MBZ] Can't post to list

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[MBZ] OT :Electronic Flt Computer (E6B) For sale

[W. Lasher]

Flight Computer (electronic E6B)
ASA  CX-1 Pathfinder
Uses 2/2032 batteries
In good condition.
Includes case (in rough shape)
and instruction book.
$20 plus shipping

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Re: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[George Gregory]

On 1/16/06 11:09 AM, "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Who wrecked theirs?   That is a VERY NICE car. I bet that car cracks the
> $10,000 mark.  

'specially since its being sold by one of the two the authorized MB dealers
in St Louis


GG

Re: [MBZ] 123 air dam

[R A Bennell]

I recall a magazine article from a while back that tried to improve the
mileage of a Chevy Suburban by various means. One of the things that they
found helped quite a bit was an airdam to prevent the airflow under the
vehicle. They commented that the undercarriage on a Suburban is not very
smooth and as such, diverting the air around the vehicle was quite helpful.

They did not use anything fancy. They had a flat aluminum plate mounted
behind the bumper and projecting down something like 6 inches.

Randy

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:58 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] 123 air dam


OK, this may be totally frivolous, but I was driving home at 70mph last
night against a 40mph headwind, wondering if there is anything I can do to
improve the 123 wagon's aerodynamics. Only thing that came to mind was a
front air dam, as I've heard that a relatively large percentage of the drag
on any car comes from the undercarriage. Two questions:

 1) Are functional aftermarket air dams still available for 123s? I know
racers used them some time ago.

 2) Anybody know whether they might improve mileage on the hwy?

 Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Jim Cathey]

That is a VERY NICE car. I bet that car cracks the $10,000 mark.


Already has.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Latest ebay scam - account phishing

[Tom Hargrave]

This one's been going on for a while - they finally found your email.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:57 AM
To: Lee Levitt
Subject: [MBZ] Latest ebay scam - account phishing


I've been receiving an increasing number of inquiries from prospective
bidders asking questions about items I have listed. Interestingly, I may or
may not have anything listed and the email is *not* going to my registered
ebay email address.
 
The inquiry looks legit, like it came from ebay. However, to reply to the
question, I have to click on a link in the email...and guess what, the link
doesn't take me to the domain I'm expecting.
 
Clearly these jerks are phishing for account information - login/id.
 
Be careful out there!
 
Lee
 
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Re: [MBZ] 220D Questions/answers

[OK Don]

The '75 - '76 300D did have the manual altitude compensation. The '70
220D did not.

On 1/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Im pretty sure they had altitude compensasion, but it was manually
> adjusted, in other words if you were going to be running in a higher
> altitude you had to turn an adjustment on the pump. I know the 115 300D
> has that, and I think the 240D did as well.
>

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Re: [MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Donald Snook]

Who wrecked theirs?   That is a VERY NICE car. I bet that car cracks the
$10,000 mark.  

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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Re: [MBZ] Centurion: 128-mpg Diesel-Powered Sports Car

[OK Don]

I think it's a sports car in that it's sitting on a Triumph Spitfire
chassis, and has two seats. The design principles are simple enough
though - small, light, keep the engine in it's most efficient range --


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> Top speed, in overdrive, is 65 mph. It's a cool looking little ride, but
> maybe not a sports car in the usual sense.
>
> Lee
>

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[MBZ] eBay crack seller

[Luther Gulseth]

Uh, this is an interesting looking TD..
 
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especially if the 126 had 450HP of DIESEL power.

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I think a number of things this guy said were funny.  



"high profile tires"  I have heard of Low profile tires, but never high
profile.  Does this just mean there is a lot of sidewall?



"gets great gas mileage"  Yea right. A Euro 500SEL will never be
confused with an economy car. 



But the most ridiculous 



"450 HP."



I would like to see a 126 with 450 HP that would be fun.   



Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

Re: [MBZ] Today's crack triva, can anybody spot the crack in this

[Donald Snook]

I think a number of things this guy said were funny.  

 

"high profile tires"  I have heard of Low profile tires, but never high
profile.  Does this just mean there is a lot of sidewall?

 

"gets great gas mileage"  Yea right. A Euro 500SEL will never be
confused with an economy car. 

 

But the most ridiculous 

 

"450 HP."

 

I would like to see a 126 with 450 HP that would be fun.   

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

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[MBZ] OT - diesel-driven mobility scooter

[wilton strickland]

'Toured NC Museum of Art yesterday on my mobility scooter with batteries
charged en route in trunk of 87 300D.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Billion and billions of emails

[SteVilardi]

 
In a message dated 1/8/2006 9:59:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve,

Sorry, can't help you with your email  problem but your very cool 64  Yamaha 
350 caught my eye.  How fast  can those things really go?

Cheers,

Bruce


I have never tried it. It is sitting in the garage for about ten years now.  
It is missing a plastic throttle linkage connector, needs to have forks 
rebuilt,  no battery, and the tires hold air but are cracked on the sides. Bike 
other wise  in pretty and near prestine with exception of some rust on 
tailpipe.  
 
steve

Re: [MBZ] this seller is clueless

[Sunil Hari]

Sure it has 78Kmi ... Also, how could he have the gall to name all that's
wrong with it and expect more than $4000.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] greedy sellers.  This guy has a $1000 car.

On 1/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-Antique-Mercedes-Benz-240D-with-78k-orig-miles_W0QQitemZ4604108637QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] this looks nice

[Sunil Hari]

Also, monogrammed floormats?  Was this an option from MB, or aftermarket
only?

And how did this person get a 300SEL without electric sliding roof?

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>
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Re: [MBZ] Today's crack triva, can anybody spot the crack in this auction?

[Sunil Hari]

NICE WORK.  As soon as I saw 450HP, I thought, "WTF?"  and then the audacity
to declare great gas mileage - sure, 8 MPG is great for 450HP...

On 1/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> DING DING DING, you won.
>
> Jim Cathey wrote:
> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-Rare-Grey-
> >>Market-500-SEL-looks-good-runs-
> >>great_W0QQitemZ4604431627QQcategoryZ6332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> >
> > What, the extra 200 HP?  Hey, 'great gas mileage' _and_ '450 HP', what's
> > not to like?
> >
> > If those were true no way _anybody_ would sell it.
> >
> > -- Jim
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>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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[MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo for those that have wrecked theirs

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Turbodi-1992-300-D-TURBO-DIESEL-1-OWNER-AWESOME-314-283-5055_W0QQitemZ4604735011QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] this looks nice

[Jim Cathey]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-4-5- 
ONE-OWNER-ORIGINAL-MILES-VERY-RARE-ALL-MANUALS-MUST- 
SEE_W0QQitemZ4604828384QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Sure does.  Like everybody else, apparently, my first thought
was "Where are the headrests?"

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Today's crack triva, can anybody spot the crack in this auction?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

DING DING DING, you won.

Jim Cathey wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-Rare-Grey- 
Market-500-SEL-looks-good-runs- 
great_W0QQitemZ4604431627QQcategoryZ6332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



What, the extra 200 HP?  Hey, 'great gas mileage' _and_ '450 HP', what's
not to like?

If those were true no way _anybody_ would sell it.

-- Jim


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] this seller is clueless

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-Antique-Mercedes-Benz-240D-with-78k-orig-miles_W0QQitemZ4604108637QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Today's crack triva, can anybody spot the crack in this auction?

[Jim Cathey]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-Rare-Grey- 
Market-500-SEL-looks-good-runs- 
great_W0QQitemZ4604431627QQcategoryZ6332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


What, the extra 200 HP?  Hey, 'great gas mileage' _and_ '450 HP', what's
not to like?

If those were true no way _anybody_ would sell it.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Today's crack triva, can anybody spot the crack in this auction?

[Henry Kolesnik]

no what is it?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-Rare-Grey-Market-500-SEL-looks-good-runs-great_W0QQitemZ4604431627QQcategoryZ6332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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[MBZ] this looks nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-4-5-ONE-OWNER-ORIGINAL-MILES-VERY-RARE-ALL-MANUALS-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ4604828384QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] Today's crack triva, can anybody spot the crack in this auction?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-Rare-Grey-Market-500-SEL-looks-good-runs-great_W0QQitemZ4604431627QQcategoryZ6332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good

[Jim Cathey]

The battery charger dropped to 2a within about 15 min indicating to me 
that the cold and the inverter had just taken the surface charge off 
the battery and the block heater had done nothing.


Yeah, it wasn't doing what you expected.  Check the cord, and check
that it is plugged into the heating element on the block as well.
They _do_ burn out, but they're fairly easy to replace.  (But _not_
that easy to put in the first time.)  Cord problems are just as likely
however, that's a harsh environment for a power cord, so you need
to get your meter onto the heating element's pins as well if there's
a problem in order to be sure of what you need.

  When the starter was dying I was using 3rd to start with, todays 
shot with 4th was an experiment which I'm thinking didn't work out so 
well. I'd thought 4th would help get rpms up but apparently its 
difficult to overcome the resistance of the engine in that gear. Maybe 
tonight I'll experiment with a couple starts in each gear.


You have it backwards.  The _lower_ the gear the faster the engine
spins.  But, too low and the wheels just skid on the ground, wasting
all that hard-earned energy.  (Hard-earned in our case, 'cause it was
usually a push start we were trying.  If you were lucky you had a
brother or friend or two along, and the pushing was much easier.
I got quite adept at starting the Falcon solo, until a new starter
cured its problem.  Believe me you also got very good at evaluating
slope when you went to park, and you _never_ parked in a hole 'cause
if you did it was guaranteed that you'd need to push it.  It was
_always_ second gear [of three] that worked for me, btw.  One would
just skid, and three rolled the engine over too slowly to start.)

(which has a 1000cca battery vs Hammie's 900cca) so I'm somewhat 
loathe to spend any money on Hammie.


Pffft.  Measure them and see whether those ratings are still (or ever
were) any good.  Those numbers change a _lot_ over the life of a
battery.  You need a carbon pile battery tester to do that, though.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.

[Jim Cathey]

What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) 
accumulate
in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind 
the

wheel well?


As often as not it's the taillight seal.  Water runs down the trunk 
channel
and onto the taillight, and thence into the rear of the trunk.  Glub, 
glub.

It's easy to test by looking with a hose or other water source.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 220D

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Marshall sayeth:

<>

Interesting you should say that. One of the senior techs at my dealer told me 
recently that when the 220D's were new, he changed a lot of their engines 
under warranty. I didn't ask him why at the time. 


I don't recall now whether it was a casting problem or a metallurgy 
problem, but there was an accelerated wear problem that afflicted at 
least some of the '68-69 diesel engines. By 1970 (maybe a little sooner) 
the problem seemed to have been controlled.


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good

[Curt Raymond]

I think its a little of column a, a little of column b and even a bit of column 
c.
   
  I've been using 15w50 oil which is probably a bit thick for this weather but 
it leaks less.
  I forgot about putting the multimeter on to check resistance, I'll check that 
tonight. The battery charger dropped to 2a within about 15 min indicating to me 
that the cold and the inverter had just taken the surface charge off the 
battery and the block heater had done nothing. I've never been able to hear the 
block heater make any sound but invariably when I'm listening theres a million 
cars driving by.
   
  When the starter was dying I was using 3rd to start with, todays shot with 
4th was an experiment which I'm thinking didn't work out so well. I'd thought 
4th would help get rpms up but apparently its difficult to overcome the 
resistance of the engine in that gear. Maybe tonight I'll experiment with a 
couple starts in each gear.
   
  Finally this car has had this battery for the 3 years I've had it and I've 
run it pretty flat a couple times which can't have helped it. Supposedly the 
battery was brand new when I got the car but who knows what that really means. 
I should pick up a new one. However I'm replacing the car soon with Dory (which 
has a 1000cca battery vs Hammie's 900cca) so I'm somewhat loathe to spend any 
money on Hammie. Of course that means the next owner will have to, since Hammie 
is already sold (pretty much anyway) I should probably just do it, I don't 
think my Indy would charge me a tremendous amount to put a new heater in...
   
  -Curt
   
  '83 240D "Hammie" 251kmi
  '85 190D "Dory"(Good catch Jim) 233kmi
   
  Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:10:21 -0800
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> I'm not 100% sure the block heater works and my confidence is 
lowering 
> each cold spell we have.

On a battery it should be very easy to tell.  The heater draws 400W
more or less and should have removed roughly 33 AH from your battery,
which would be in the 85-100 AH rating.  A serious drain in other 
words.
Your battery charger could tell you after the fact.  At a 10A recharge
rate (high) it should take something like four hours or more to
replenish the battery.  Much less than that and it's apparent that
your block heater is not up to snuff.

Also, the block heater should measure only in the tens of ohms range
via multimeter, and when operating often makes a sizzling sound.

>   We live on a pretty good hill so we hauled him up to the top and I 
> rolled him down in 4th gear. Didn't do much good, I was surprised 
that 
> in 4th the car would stop in about 50 feet even on our hill.

Having roll-started more than my share (of gassers) in my 'yewt',
I'd say fourth gear was much too high a gear.  We always did it
in second or third.  Gotta get those revs up.

If you don't have a multimeter it's time to get one.

Other 'portable' ideas include a propane torch on the intake
manifold or a hair drier pointed into the intake air horn
while starting, assuming your battery/inverter is up to
the 1kW+ load of the typical hair drier.  I use a heat gun
(garage hair drier/cigarette lighter) on my Unimog (which
has no glow plugs).  It works.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Water Leak in trunk of W-126 Longbody and seat Question.

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Rear window seal or tail light seal.  Seat back panel has to screws at 
the bottom pointing up that hold it in.


ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:


What would cause water (turned to ice by the following AM here) accumulate
in the driver's side of the trunkthe depressed area right behind the
wheel well?  It's been dry since being re-painted this fall, but not really
driven in the rain.  Saturday night, I went thru some thunderous downpours
and bad crosswinds, and Sunday AM, ICE  The seal on the trunklid was
replaced but I would have thaught if that was leaking, I'd see more
evidence.  I know there's a vent down there somewhere, but are they
troublesome?

Today it's 4 degrees, and it's still frozen sold ;-(, but when it thaws
out, where do I start looking?

And another question...the panel on the back of the passinger's seat has
fallen off.  No clue has to how it happened.  Do they just snap back on, or
are there some screws and/or clips that keep them in place.

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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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