Re: [MBZ] Front crank seal

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

If you have some minor leakage, try running a couple of treatments of 
AutoRx ( www.auto-rx.com  ) I've managed to head off a few dozen seal 
repairs on mine and customer cars with that stuff. It's costy, but it 
really does work.


--Robert

David Johnson wrote:

What is the implication of front crank seal leak? I
have a couple of drops coming out of the seal each
day.  Other than the unsightly polka dots on my
cement, should I be concerned about any complications
to the engine as a result of this leak?
>From what I've read, this is a rather big job, and I
don't have the capability/tools to change the seal. I
suppose the leak will worsen with time, and I'll need
to get it fixed at some point in time. At that
juncture, resources permitting, is there anything else
I should take care of for this 83 300DT with 220 K
miles?
Thanks.
David

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Re: [MBZ] Apple original Airport card

[John Berryman]

On Mar 11, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Ed Booher wrote:

Sure you know some, if not all, of them, but thought I'd through them
out here just incase.

Ed



First time I've seen any on the list. Thanks Ed.

Johnny B.
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[MBZ] slightly OT: rear end bitching

[Sunil Hari]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  why did Johann or Thor or whoever torque the rear diff fill 
bolt so
darn tight in every MB i've owned.  Drives me freaking nuts when I want to
flush/fill it.  And in the 124 cars, the muffler is now in the way of
getting a good position on it.

Looks like i'm taking it to my indy to do ... ARGH.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Owner Classic Certificate

[Sunil Hari]

$100?  Jeez, MB tries to soak you at every chance.

Just for fun, I ordered the Classic Collection catalogue - just seeing the
prices for three-point-star goodies made me reflux a little.

On 3/11/06, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Has anyone seen one of these?  What's included?  It says the info about
> a
> > specific vehicle when it rolled off the assembly line but I'm wondering
> how
> > complete that info is?  Colors, Options, engine #, trans #, ??
>
> >From what I recall (Pic in the star) its a really pretty datacard :)
> (all the options, etc)
> -j.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

[Jim Cathey]

I don't have a UPS but everything had surge protectors. I think
lightning was a little more than what they were designed for.


Nothing stops lightning, but the surge induced by nearby strikes
can possibly be blocked by a (good) surge protector.  Close enough,
though, and it either fries the stuff directly, or induces enough
EMF in the cables and such to do harm.  _All_ the cables, including
internal ones.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Owner Classic Certificate

[John W. Reames III]

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Has anyone seen one of these?  What's included?  It says the info about a 
> specific vehicle when it rolled off the assembly line but I'm wondering how 
> complete that info is?  Colors, Options, engine #, trans #, ??

>From what I recall (Pic in the star) its a really pretty datacard :)
(all the options, etc)
-j.

[MBZ] Frappr Map Update...

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hi all,

Frappr had a problem with pictures, both uploading some and  
inadvertently deleting others.   Several of you who have signed up on  
Frappr don't have pictures there now because of that.
I suggest that everyone check if their picture is "there" when they  
click on their name or on the map pin. If you find NO picture, go  
ahead and upload a new one, or the same one if you choose.


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
Frappr Administrator
 

[MBZ] Mercedes Owner Classic Certificate

[l02turner]

Has anyone seen one of these?  What's included?  It says the info about a 
specific vehicle when it rolled off the assembly line but I'm wondering how 
complete that info is?  Colors, Options, engine #, trans #, ??


http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/certificates.do

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] random w123 parts

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:53:26 -0500 "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> anyone have need of a 123 air filter, spin-on fuel filter, radiator
> hoses (upper and lower), and/or blue map pockets?  Random leftovers from
> my 84 300D

Yes. Particularly the blue map pockets.

BTW, got any blue sun visors?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection [was: Re: Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)]

[John Berryman]

On Mar 11, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:


John,

What do you use for lightning protection?

You should at least have power and phone/DSL/cable surge protection. A
small UPS would be great, too.

I have several of the APC (American Power Conversion) products  
which are

working well.



Craig

	I don't have a UPS but everything had surge protectors. I think  
lightning was a little more than what they were designed for.



Johnny B.
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On 3/10/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

backwards compatible to earlier machines. The card I'm looking for is
the Original Airport card. Thanks for bringing this to my attention
though.

Johnny B.


John,

Here are some new friends for you:

http://www.baucomcomputers.com/  - Give him a call, I'm sure he's had
cards in the past, but none listed currently.

http://www.shrevesystems.com/  - Their stock changes weekly.

http://www.expercom.com/index.html  - standard airport, $170 (ouch)

http://www.wegenermedia.com/  - their's is only $120 (o)

and the old standby

http://www.powermax.com/

Sure you know some, if not all, of them, but thought I'd through them
out here just incase.

Ed

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Re: [MBZ] Frappr map

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 00:19:21 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> www.frappr.com/benzbunch
>
> Thanks. Anyone wonder what a real high performance German machine looks
> like? Check out my spot on the map.

So where is your spot on the map?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

[l02turner]

Hi Dwight,
Yeah, ours sound very similar.  I'm the 2nd owner (if you don't count the 
car dealer that bought it at auction) and so far I couldn't be happier.  I 
had an initial cold start problem which I suspect was probably a fuel 
quality issue.  I've changed both fuel filters and added some biocide along 
with plenty of fresh fuel.


About the color of mine - it's a metallic bluish-silver - if that makes any 
sense ;-) mostly it's blue, but not a dark blue.  I'll have to look thru my 
color charts to see what it's called.


Drove it to Williamsburg and back this morning  (about 150miles total)- a 
beautiful day for a drive, 72F and sunny  - the 300D ran perfectly and I 
really like the climate control system!  Of course, I haven't had to do any 
work to the automatic part of it - hopefully I won;t for a long time.  ;-)


BTW, bought the Biocide from West Marine - made by CRC I got 3 bottles for 
~$7 each.  Ordered it Thurs and it arrived  Wednesday...


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Larry,
That sounds about right. I have about 8k in my recently acquired 30D 2.5
t. Low miles, southern car, mint body & interior, two owners, etc. Some
of these have been going for 10K recently on e-bay. I think you'll love
driving it. BTW-what color is it? Is it white? Many of these seem to be.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value


   Sorry, I forgot to mention the asking price of the W124 '91 300D 2.5

Turbo that I just bought was $9900 and I offered $8K which he accepted.
Bought it from a wholesaler who had this car for 44 days - I'm told they

like to move their cars more often than that - I think he was dealing
because he'd had it for a while.  I'm in love with this car and only
like it
more and more - I haven't found any significant problems except for an
intermittant cold starting problem (happened 2 times in 3 weeks) which I

contribute to a lack of being driven regularily.  Since filling with
fresh
fuel the problem seems to be gone (knock wood).  The seller put 1/4 tank
in
before I picked it up and I'm not aware of any stations in his area that

gets a lot of diesel traffic - so the fuel may have been 'off'.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Hi Rick.
I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K
miles
and
is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles

and

the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines

is

nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and



more
luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go

;-)  I

*love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me

back in

the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message -
From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Hi All,
I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil
and OK Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to
check out a 1992 300D tomorrow.

Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two
kinda
rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is
ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car,

will I

STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?

Enough already

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] Parting out 300SEL

[MICHAEL ESH]

Hello James,
Here are the additional pictures of the door panel you requested . The 3 =

tabs on the top back are broken off leaving the two on either end.  Someone =

had it off before I did and obviously did not understand how it comes off. =

Everything else is in very good condition.
Let me if you are interested.

Mike
- Original Message - =

From: "James Jetton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MICHAEL ESH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parting out 300SEL


> Michael,
> Thanks for sending me the picture. Is there any cracking along the top
> where your arm normally rests?  Mine is really cracked badly, which is why
> I'm looking to replace it.  If there is no cracking, I'd be interested. =

> How
> much do you think you want for it?  And of course I'd pay shipping to zip
> code 27405.
> Jim
>
>
>> [Original Message]
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>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mercedes Discussion List
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 3/5/2006 6:20:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parting out 300SEL
>>
>> Hi James,
>> Sorry about the delay.  Here is the picture.  Are interested in anything
>> else?  The interior is in fairly good condition.
>> Mike
>> - Original Message - =

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>>
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Re: [MBZ] Front crank seal

[Jim Cathey]

What is the implication of front crank seal leak?


The mess.  It is very easy, however, to have a mistaken
diagnosis.  The chain tensioner can leak, for example,
and it runs down (behind water pump, etc.) and drips
off of the crank seal area.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 02:25:46 -0500 Bill Gallagher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> p.s. no problem starting in places like ... New Mexico 

We have single digit temperatures here, too. You must have missed them.



Craig

[MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection [was: Re: Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)]

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:04:29 -0500 John Berryman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If my hp all-in-one didn't get fried by lightning, I would gladly 
> scan and e-mail the pertinent pages to you.

John,

What do you use for lightning protection?

You should at least have power and phone/DSL/cable surge protection. A
small UPS would be great, too.

I have several of the APC (American Power Conversion) products which are
working well.



Craig

[MBZ] Front crank seal

[David Johnson]

What is the implication of front crank seal leak? I
have a couple of drops coming out of the seal each
day.  Other than the unsightly polka dots on my
cement, should I be concerned about any complications
to the engine as a result of this leak?
>From what I've read, this is a rather big job, and I
don't have the capability/tools to change the seal. I
suppose the leak will worsen with time, and I'll need
to get it fixed at some point in time. At that
juncture, resources permitting, is there anything else
I should take care of for this 83 300DT with 220 K
miles?
Thanks.
David

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[MBZ] random w123 parts

[Sunil Hari]

anyone have need of a 123 air filter, spin-on fuel filter, radiator hoses
(upper and lower), and/or blue map pockets?  Random leftovers from my 84
300D

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Re: [MBZ] Touching and impressive

[Marshall Booth]

Marshall Booth wrote:

LT Don wrote:

Once a Marine, always a Marine, right Marshall?


Always.

Marshall


On 3/10/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

USMC funeral



http://multimedia.rockymountainnews.com/slideshow/slideshow.cfm?type=DEFAULT&ID=012006lundstrom&NUM=1

Indeed!


You might try this link too:



This old Marine cried!

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Re: [MBZ] Possible cure for separated http links

[John Berryman]

On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:00 AM, BillR wrote:

I know I am not the only one with trouble getting complete listings  
to show
as click able links.  Tried something different that worked well  
this time
so I could view the Marine funeral pics.  I hit 'reply' and then  
deleted the

space at the end of the line and link came back together and worked.
Worth a try.
BillR



	I frequently need to delete a dotted line at the end of many links  
to make them work. These show up at the end of the URL in my browser.  
it also seems to happen when certain people send links and it is  
usually an e-bay link.

Can anyone explain this phenomenon?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 11:26 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Que?  Aren't they all _some_ color or another?  Anyway, it's the
masking that's the killer.  I have a rattle-can of a close color!
I'm hoping to avoid that.

-- Jim



	I have 3 unpainted ones somewhere. I have no intention of looking  
for them at this time, though.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

So am I to understand that throttle position has an effect on the  
metering

of the IP *


Yes.



Also, what is the reason behind the owner's manual instructing us  
to pump
the pedal to the floor three times prior to engaging the starter  
(for cold

conditions)?


	I don't know but I will guess that it is to make sure the linkage  
returns and the internals are released from the last shut-down. There  
is Motor oil in the IP, earlier models have their own supply which  
must be topped off occasionally,( your 1983 uses the oil in your  
engine) I think the fuel shut-off can hang up in the off position if  
oil has the consistency of toothpaste. Another good reason to use  
synthetic oil.



(BTW, yes, I think it says to hold it to the floor after the
three pumps) This sounds like the pumping of the pedal in a gasser  
- the
function of which, of course, is to squirt a bunch of fuel down the  
intake

to get things going.


	To the best of my knowledge there is no fuel enrichment and no  
squirting going on. The pump runs off of a camshaft directly, there  
is one "pump" per cylinder and the camshaft determines the sequence  
of injection.
	It seems that you have a genuine interest in how this all works. The  
IP is a highly technical device, if you have the desire for a more  
technical description, get your hands on an MB engine manual and give  
section 07 a good read where you will find more technical info.  
Putting it all into words is beyond my abilities, the authors of the  
manual, however, have done a wonderful job.
	If my hp all-in-one didn't get fried by lightning, I would gladly  
scan and e-mail the pertinent pages to you. I haven't checked but I  
bet its on the skinnerbox website.




Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Possible cure for separated http links

[James Zavesky]

to keep the link active try this

enclose the pasted link in angle brackets



James Zavesky



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Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:00 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Possible cure for separated http links


> I know I am not the only one with trouble getting complete listings to
show
> as click able links.  Tried something different that worked well this time
> so I could view the Marine funeral pics.  I hit 'reply' and then deleted
the
> space at the end of the line and link came back together and worked.
> Worth a try.
> BillR
> Jacksonville FL
> 1981 300SD  'EM'  272k miles
>
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Re: [MBZ] Possible cure for separated http links

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

its usually caused because the person sending the link has their line 
wrap set to low.


BillR wrote:


I know I am not the only one with trouble getting complete listings to show
as click able links.  Tried something different that worked well this time
so I could view the Marine funeral pics.  I hit 'reply' and then deleted the
space at the end of the line and link came back together and worked.
Worth a try.
BillR
Jacksonville FL 
1981 300SD  'EM'  272k miles


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Re: [MBZ] Two way antenna want 3 way 1233 300 TD

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

My 240D has no antenna switch

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Two way antenna want 3 way 1233 300 TD


> The OE Hirschmann antenna in my '85 190D 2.0  Euro with Becker Europa 
> 731 T radio had NO antenna switch.

Interesting.  Must be a Euro thing.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Larry,
That sounds about right. I have about 8k in my recently acquired 30D 2.5
t. Low miles, southern car, mint body & interior, two owners, etc. Some
of these have been going for 10K recently on e-bay. I think you'll love
driving it. BTW-what color is it? Is it white? Many of these seem to be.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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Sorry, I forgot to mention the asking price of the W124 '91 300D 2.5

Turbo that I just bought was $9900 and I offered $8K which he accepted. 
Bought it from a wholesaler who had this car for 44 days - I'm told they

like to move their cars more often than that - I think he was dealing 
because he'd had it for a while.  I'm in love with this car and only
like it 
more and more - I haven't found any significant problems except for an 
intermittant cold starting problem (happened 2 times in 3 weeks) which I

contribute to a lack of being driven regularily.  Since filling with
fresh 
fuel the problem seems to be gone (knock wood).  The seller put 1/4 tank
in 
before I picked it up and I'm not aware of any stations in his area that

gets a lot of diesel traffic - so the fuel may have been 'off'.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value


> Hi Rick.
> I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K 
> miles
> and
> is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles
and
> the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines
is
> nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and

> more
> luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go
;-)  I
> *love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me
back in
> the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:52 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] w124 diesel value
>
>
>> Hi All,
>> I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil 
>> and OK Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to 
>> check out a 1992 300D tomorrow.
>>
>> Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two
>> kinda
>> rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is
>> ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car,
will I
>> STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?
>>
>> Enough already
>>
>> Rick Knoble
>> '85 300 CD
>> '87 190 DT
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[MBZ] Possible cure for separated http links

[BillR]

I know I am not the only one with trouble getting complete listings to show
as click able links.  Tried something different that worked well this time
so I could view the Marine funeral pics.  I hit 'reply' and then deleted the
space at the end of the line and link came back together and worked.
Worth a try.
BillR
Jacksonville FL 
1981 300SD  'EM'  272k miles

[MBZ] Model Removal

[Bill Gallagher]

The side window on the wagon, which is located over the rear wheel on 
the driver side, has a water leak...  I can see some rust on the bottom 
corner of the window towards the back where the antenna is located.
   There are silver weathered molds around the window's edge   how 
do you remove these molds?

TIA

Bill
1981 300 TD

Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[Bill Gallagher]

The advice I gave is in the New England area of the USA in the last 
post. I am a frequent traveler to Quebec City and the advice is very 
different  your are entering into a very different climatic zone 
with temps well below most parts of the US.
It recalls to me the Germany invasion of Russia in WW 
two..Germany lacked the the requirement of a Russian winter from 
clothing, oils for guns, grease in bearings, and the list is endless 
.Temps at -30 to -40C are normal in Russia but not in Germany. 
German equipment will not work or is very hard to operate.
Sometimes my car will start without over night block heater from 
10F to -10F without a problem in Canada At some other times it will 
not start  plug in the block heater for 1 hour or less, motor starts 
in a few seconds  My process of starting in cold temps like Canada 
is to glow plug cycle three times and attempt to start. If no start 
cranking after 2 to 6 seconds, repeat the glow cycle again, but most of 
the times it will not start . time for external heat source.
   Pour hot water several times on the fuel lines, injector, and  fuel 
filters and it starts most of the time .or wait until the block 
heater does it job.


Bill
1981 300 TD
p.s. no problem starting in places like Arizona, New Mexico, Africa, 
South America without block heater.

very different climatic environment ..


Bill Gallagher wrote:
Many years ago, I bought a car with a Audi 4 cylinder motor: Common 
knowledge at that time, it was very has to start in cold weather, and 
after a couple of time not starting, I was convinced about common 
knowledge  drained the oil and Mobil One solved the problem  
Less friction, motor able to turn over faster and start like a summer 
day with temps near 10F or less ... more than one solution to the 
same problem..


Bill
1981 300 TD

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

my opinion on block heaters, for either gas or diesel if you live in a cold 
climate use it or get one if you can. Beats straining the battery
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles

72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-

From: Richard Barnaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:47:11 -0800
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no


Been following the Block Heater yes or no controversy.
My .02
First my credentials 300SD 1979 driving daily between
Montpelier VT and Montreal in up to (down to -30)
Ungaraged car. I used a block heater.
In most cases without it, won't start after overnight
But will start leaving at work w/o plug in.  BUT
If plug available will use it.
Rationale:  Even if you COULD "get by" without it,
Why not have the oil more warm and available.
Seems to me, cheap insurance on the engine life.

Cold Weather true story.
Once at Montreal Airport Hilton, the temp was about -40 which is the temp at
which Celsius and Farenheit scales are the same, which is also common
knowledge to anyone living in this region.  It was really cold, and windy
too.  I was waiting along with others in the lobby for some reason, and
various people would enter and a gust of frigid air would immediately negate
any effect the hotel's heating system had built up since the last entry.
The desk clerk was a bit of a clown.  The temperature was a matter of public
knowledge that night.  When one new patron entered, and exclaimed "Man it's
COLD out there".  The clerk, innocently said, "How cold?".  The person
entering said "Forty Below".  The clerk, again innocently, "Is that Celsius
or Farenheit", baiting him for the expected reply, "It's the SAME".  But
this patron obviously didn't know that, and instead exclaims, "Who Cares?",
which if you think about it, is a much better reply.


  



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Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[Bill Gallagher]

Many years ago, I bought a car with a Audi 4 cylinder motor: Common 
knowledge at that time, it was very has to start in cold weather, and 
after a couple of time not starting, I was convinced about common 
knowledge  drained the oil and Mobil One solved the problem  
Less friction, motor able to turn over faster and start like a summer 
day with temps near 10F or less ... more than one solution to the 
same problem..


Bill
1981 300 TD

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

my opinion on block heaters, for either gas or diesel if you live in a cold 
climate use it or get one if you can. Beats straining the battery
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles

72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-

From: Richard Barnaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:47:11 -0800
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no


Been following the Block Heater yes or no controversy.
My .02
First my credentials 300SD 1979 driving daily between
Montpelier VT and Montreal in up to (down to -30)
Ungaraged car. I used a block heater.
In most cases without it, won't start after overnight
But will start leaving at work w/o plug in.  BUT
If plug available will use it.
Rationale:  Even if you COULD "get by" without it,
Why not have the oil more warm and available.
Seems to me, cheap insurance on the engine life.

Cold Weather true story.
Once at Montreal Airport Hilton, the temp was about -40 which is the temp at
which Celsius and Farenheit scales are the same, which is also common
knowledge to anyone living in this region.  It was really cold, and windy
too.  I was waiting along with others in the lobby for some reason, and
various people would enter and a gust of frigid air would immediately negate
any effect the hotel's heating system had built up since the last entry.
The desk clerk was a bit of a clown.  The temperature was a matter of public
knowledge that night.  When one new patron entered, and exclaimed "Man it's
COLD out there".  The clerk, innocently said, "How cold?".  The person
entering said "Forty Below".  The clerk, again innocently, "Is that Celsius
or Farenheit", baiting him for the expected reply, "It's the SAME".  But
this patron obviously didn't know that, and instead exclaims, "Who Cares?",
which if you think about it, is a much better reply.


  

Re: [MBZ] Frappr map

[Zoltan Finks]

Thanks. Anyone wonder what a real high performance German machine looks
like? Check out my spot on the map.

Brian


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>
> Brian,
>
> Check out www.frappr.com/benzbunch
>
> I think that's the one you're looking for
>
> Take care and contact me off line at  [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it doesn't
> work..  I'm the administrator
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
>
> On Mar 10, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:
>
> > Is the Frappr map still going? I searched "mercedes diesel" on the
> > site and
> > didn't find it.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Frappr map

[Chuck Landenberger]

Brian,

Check out www.frappr.com/benzbunch

I think that's the one you're looking for

Take care and contact me off line at  [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it doesn't  
work..  I'm the administrator


Chuck
Phoenix AZ

On Mar 10, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

Is the Frappr map still going? I searched "mercedes diesel" on the  
site and

didn't find it.

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[mykd1]

my opinion on block heaters, for either gas or diesel if you live in a cold 
climate use it or get one if you can. Beats straining the battery
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Richard Barnaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:47:11 -0800
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no


Been following the Block Heater yes or no controversy.
My .02
First my credentials 300SD 1979 driving daily between
Montpelier VT and Montreal in up to (down to -30)
Ungaraged car. I used a block heater.
In most cases without it, won't start after overnight
But will start leaving at work w/o plug in.  BUT
If plug available will use it.
Rationale:  Even if you COULD "get by" without it,
Why not have the oil more warm and available.
Seems to me, cheap insurance on the engine life.

Cold Weather true story.
Once at Montreal Airport Hilton, the temp was about -40 which is the temp at
which Celsius and Farenheit scales are the same, which is also common
knowledge to anyone living in this region.  It was really cold, and windy
too.  I was waiting along with others in the lobby for some reason, and
various people would enter and a gust of frigid air would immediately negate
any effect the hotel's heating system had built up since the last entry.
The desk clerk was a bit of a clown.  The temperature was a matter of public
knowledge that night.  When one new patron entered, and exclaimed "Man it's
COLD out there".  The clerk, innocently said, "How cold?".  The person
entering said "Forty Below".  The clerk, again innocently, "Is that Celsius
or Farenheit", baiting him for the expected reply, "It's the SAME".  But
this patron obviously didn't know that, and instead exclaims, "Who Cares?",
which if you think about it, is a much better reply.


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Re: [MBZ] Touching and impressive

[Marshall Booth]

LT Don wrote:

Once a Marine, always a Marine, right Marshall?


Always.

Marshall


On 3/10/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



USMC funeral



http://multimedia.rockymountainnews.com/slideshow/slideshow.cfm?type=DEFAULT&ID=012006lundstrom&NUM=1

Indeed!


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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Frappr

[RELNGSON]

http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch/photos/0

Re: [MBZ] Frappr map

[Zoltan Finks]

Thank you kindly. I guess searching (through the frappr site) mercedes
diesel was not getting it because of the unique name benzbunch.

Brian


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> http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch
>
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> 1997 SL500
> http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
>
> -Original Message-
> From: On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:53 PM
> Is the Frappr map still going? I searched "mercedes diesel" on the site
> and
> didn't find it.
>
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Locations

[RELNGSON]

<>

Meadowbrook. 

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Frappr map

[George Gregory]

http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch
 
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-Original Message-
From: On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:53 PM
Is the Frappr map still going? I searched "mercedes diesel" on the site and
didn't find it.

Brian

Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

[l02turner]

   Sorry, I forgot to mention the asking price of the W124 '91 300D 2.5 
Turbo that I just bought was $9900 and I offered $8K which he accepted. 
Bought it from a wholesaler who had this car for 44 days - I'm told they 
like to move their cars more often than that - I think he was dealing 
because he'd had it for a while.  I'm in love with this car and only like it 
more and more - I haven't found any significant problems except for an 
intermittant cold starting problem (happened 2 times in 3 weeks) which I 
contribute to a lack of being driven regularily.  Since filling with fresh 
fuel the problem seems to be gone (knock wood).  The seller put 1/4 tank in 
before I picked it up and I'm not aware of any stations in his area that 
gets a lot of diesel traffic - so the fuel may have been 'off'.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Hi Rick.
I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K miles 
and

is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles and
the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines is
nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and 
more

luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go ;-)  I
*love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me back in
the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Hi All,
I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil and OK
Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to check out a
1992 300D tomorrow.

Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two 
kinda

rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is
ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car, will I
STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?

Enough already

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] Touching and impressive

[LT Don]

Once a Marine, always a Marine, right Marshall?

On 3/10/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > USMC funeral
> >
> >
> http://multimedia.rockymountainnews.com/slideshow/slideshow.cfm?type=DEFAULT&ID=012006lundstrom&NUM=1
>
> Indeed!
>
> Marshall
> --
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1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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Re: [MBZ] Frappr map

[LT Don]

Yea, it is still out there somewhere but I can't remember the link.

On 3/10/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is the Frappr map still going? I searched "mercedes diesel" on the site
> and
> didn't find it.
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1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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[MBZ] Frappr map

[Zoltan Finks]

Is the Frappr map still going? I searched "mercedes diesel" on the site and
didn't find it.

Brian

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[Jim Cathey]

I may have a blank cap or two if you wanted to paint yourself


Que?  Aren't they all _some_ color or another?  Anyway, it's the
masking that's the killer.  I have a rattle-can of a close color!
I'm hoping to avoid that.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Touching and impressive

[Marshall Booth]

USMC funeral

http://multimedia.rockymountainnews.com/slideshow/slideshow.cfm?type=DEFAULT&ID=012006lundstrom&NUM=1


Indeed!

Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[redghost]

I may have a blank cap or two if you wanted to paint yourself

On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 06:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I may have the caps.  Will know afternoon Sat.


Great!  I don't know the name of the actual color, but I figure
if it's compatible it can be different side-to-side.

-- Jim


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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[redghost]

Really odd?  Would have thought it was no added issue for the factory 
to have installed it, where the dealer would have much issue and


OH, Profit center!  Well that makes sense.

On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 05:32 PM, John Berryman wrote:



On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:43 PM, redghost wrote:


I always was under the impression that all the cars had block heater,
but not all cars had the cord.  The e300d has no cord, but being cali
car did get a block heater.  in L.A.



I wish that was the case. I have owned at least a half dozen with no
block heaters and not one that just needed the cord plugged in.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] 70mph

[redghost]

Then we are about the same place.  Hawthorne Hills by Childrens




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<>

I simply divided the distance by the speed to make the comparison. 
Generally,

traffic is moving closer to 80mph which is quite reasonable.

I'm north of Sand Point near the lake.

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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

[ms . 300SD]

Jim,
I am so glad that you are having such a fun time with this car.

Lynn in WA

[MBZ] Touching and impressive

[RELNGSON]

USMC funeral

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Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[Desert Rat]

My 83 300SD was sold new at Downtown LA Motors in LA. Spend all it's
life in Southern CA and it had a block heater and cord. There was no
mention of this equipment on the Window Sticker as an otion...must
have been standard equipment.

On 3/10/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> redghost wrote:
> > I always was under the impression that all the cars had block heater,
> > but not all cars had the cord.  The e300d has no cord, but being cali
> > car did get a block heater.  in L.A.
>
> Starting in the early/mid '80s all US delivered diesels had block
> heaters (but cords were dealer installed, often only if requested). Car
> delivered elsewhere didn't have heaters unless they were ordered as options.
>
> Johnny B.s 190D 2.5 and my 2.0 are Euro cars and were NOT equipped with
> block heaters from the factory. They will reliably start down to about
> 10-15 below zero F without a block heater (providing the fuel is treated
> and the preheating circuitry is working properly. Few European cars
> south of the Scandinavian countries were ordered with block heaters.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[redghost]

I do not advise feathering. Either make it run or not. If you want to 
play with it, it will not start has been my empirical experience.  The 
wife had to start the e300d and tried the feathering stuff.  Took us 
far longer to get her to just accept stomping on it and keeping the 
starter going until it caught fully.  For some reason it wants fuel and 
feathering does not deliver any amount of value.  Gump will not even 
consider making any starting noise if you feather.




On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 04:38 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

Good to get all our cylinders in line. This brings me back to my 
question
from yesterday: What about feathering when the thing is just getting 
going?

That's always been my way of coaxing a cold gasser along.

And further, what is the actual effect of feathering the pedal on this 
type
of system. Does depressing the pedal actually squirt fuel? Or simply 
ratchet

up the IP? Or what? As I said yesterday, I understand the workings of a
carbureted gas engine, where there is a direct linkage between your 
foot and
the accelerator pump which squirts fuel down the throats. But what 
about

these diesel systems? Note: Those listers annoyed by such a simplistic,
basic question may simply delete - no need to get worked up.

Brian
83 240D


On 3/10/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:36:39 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think there might be a miscommunication here. I don't think John B 
was

talking about flooring the accelerator after the engine is running, I
think he meant floor the accelerator while you are cranking the 
starter,

and the thing is sort of showing signs of starting, but is not really
running yet.


Yes! And once it starts running, back off on the accelerator to keep 
it

running at a reasonable, Goldilocks speed (not too fast, not too slow,
just right :-) ). As things warm up, you'll have to back off more.



So I don't think he meant to just rev the heck out of the thing when
it's cold. That would seem a bad idea to me too.


Yes, that is a bad idea.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] the free? 240D

[redghost]

He said the driver side of the 240 is toast from the fender and driver 
door.  That would make the integral side view needed instead of the 
stalk side view the 220 has.  He could use the old door and fender, but 
the better body seems to be the 220 not the 240.  My car, I would drop 
the engine and trans into the 220.


On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 03:42 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

I think that changing sheet metal and the rad would be MUCH easier 
than

pulling the engine/tranny out of both cars and swapping them.  It may
very
well have some hidden frame damage which would necessitate the
engine/tranny
swap.  Either way, the stick would be much funner to drive.


Usually you let the condition of the rust and paint determine
which is the donor, and what gets donated.  Engine swaps are easy
compared to much bodywork.  Tranny type swaps are also doable,
so long as it's not a column shift vs floor!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] missing emails

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yes

Curt Raymond wrote:


The last couple days I seem to be not getting all the emails from the list. I 
know this because yesterday for instance I only saw one digest all day. Today I 
see a post from Jim Cathy replied to that I never saw in the first place.
  Is this some plot of my employer to improve my productivity?
   
  -Curt



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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

[OK Don]

My '90 300D 2.5 had 243k miles (still shows that - odometer stopped
about 100 miles after purchase). I paid $4500 for it - no maintenance
history other than the it had good care for the three or four years
the PO (D. Snook) owned it. I think the engine is all original, and
the tranny probably is also. It needed several small things - engine
mounts, front exhaust pipe, fuel hoses, etc. I'm going to replace the
original vacuum pump this Fall (have to recover from re-building the
450SLC first). This car was meticulously maintained cosmetically, has
the later 8 hole wheels, and looks great. It drives extremely nicely,
though I can tell that it's probably due for rear end rubber parts,
but it's not too bad yet. It totally beats the 240D - and the 300Ds
(115) that preceded it, but is a different cat than the 300SDL. I have
to keep both the E class and S class. Love them both for different
reasons.
I can't wait to see what my reaction is to the 450SLC when I drive it
again after 2 years - will it match the 124 chassis for fun?

No - there is no cure - accept your fate, and enjoy the addiction! I
have sevferal times wished that I was transplanting a 603 engine into
the SLC instead of the original engine (117).



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'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
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Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[Andrew Cunningham]

Hmm, I would have expected trusted in all CAPS unless I am reading too much
into the back and forth.

:)

Andy


On 3/10/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > Actually I think I'll stick to consulting logical sources like I have,
> such
> > as trusted Mercedes mechanics
>
>
> If you get the kind of information you've reported from "trusted
> sources" I think a re-evaluation of the meaning of "trusted" is needed.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?

[Mike Canfield]

Jim,
 Well if and when it does please keep me in mind.I would like to have 
the engine out of it if it is still good for a genset/tractor project i want 
to build.  Can't think of a better engine.  I do miss my 82 thoughWhat a 
great car to drive.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?



Hey Mike
 I guess if I can't get much of anything out of the MB I'll just run it
until it drops.  That was the original intent, I got a little 
side-tracked.




From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:56:26 -0500

I take it you are turning down my offer??  I would love to offer you more
but I just can't swing it right now.
  I still kick myself in the ass for selling 82 to Mac for $100!!!  I
would
love to have it back for the summerI have a bunch of WVO to use up.

Mike
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?


> I'm going to go start the car this weekend, while it's warm.  Since
there
> has been so little interest,Ii think I'll use it while the weather is
warm
> since it's still registered and insured, then just junk it when/if it
> quits.
>  It still gets about 30 mpg.  I have a Jeep which gets terrible 
> mileage,

> and I'm going to buy another car, so at some point, probably this
summer,
> I'll get rid of the MB.
>  BTW, it's in Warren, MA.
>
>>From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
>>Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:29:36 -0500
>>
>>Jim,
>>   Can you tell me again where it is so i can see how far i have to go?
>> It
>>does run right?  Are you in a huge hurry to get it out of the way?  It
>>would
>>be 3 or 4 weeks before I could get time to come pick it up.  This is a
>>navy
>>blue 123 chasis right?  Scrap price for cars here is $60 a ton so how's
a
>>couple hundred bucks sound?  I think I could swing a roadtrip along 
>>with

>>that.
>>
>>Mike
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Jim Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
>>
>>
>> > Make an offer.
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
>> >>Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 17:35:03 -0500
>> >>
>> >>I'd pay more than scrap or junk price for it.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
>> >>- Original Message -
>> >>From: "Jim Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:55 PM
>> >>Subject: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > If there is no interest in this car, it looks like curtains for
it.
>> >> >
>> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Two way antenna want 3 way 1233 300 TD

[Jim Cathey]

The OE Hirschmann antenna in my '85 190D 2.0  Euro with Becker Europa
731 T radio had NO antenna switch.


Interesting.  Must be a Euro thing.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[Jim Cathey]

I may have the caps.  Will know afternoon Sat.


Great!  I don't know the name of the actual color, but I figure
if it's compatible it can be different side-to-side.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] wind noises

[Jim Cathey]

Which is why the antenna was moved to the rear quarter panel on the 
107 SLs

in the 70s.


Still whistles in back, too!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Block heaters

[RELNGSON]

<>


My '78 came with a card   in the glovebox entitling me to   a free 
blockheater installation mit cord. Of course I said yes and a good thing since 
the 
original glowplugs were fading at 90K miles. 

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Bags of air...

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

Those look a lot more like silicone than air :-)

---Robert

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

<>

Big deal. My C320 has eight bags although they don't look much like those.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

[Jim Cathey]

Today's progress.  Speaking of glow plugs, it is possible to work
on and modify the old series-plug relay.

Replaced the horns.  For whatever reason, both old ones were dead.
The vacuum tank had leaked down by morning, I don't suppose that is a
surprise.

I next tackled the glow plug relay, which has been having some
intermittent faults.  (No light.)  I opened the harness connector and
squeezed the sockets together a bit (to tighten them up) and hit them
with contact cleaner.  I then burnished the pins on the relay and
opened it up to check the capacitor values.  (It's interesting that
the current to the plugs is sensed via a 1-turn transformer around a
reed switch.)  Two of the larger caps were bad, so I replaced them.
The big one (2200uF) that runs the light was OK, oddly enough.
Unfortunately while messing around on the bench I managed to slip with
a probe and blew up two diodes, one a 6.8V Zener.  This took some time
to find!  I had a junkbox 6.2V Zener, I call that close enough.
Anyway, after several hours of circuit tracing and head scratching I
got it back to where it was before I killed it.  (We won't be
'billing' for that time!)  The beauty of electronics from this age is
that there are rarely special parts inside, component-level repair is
entirely possible.

Next, check the timing.  I want to try to extend it to the long side
to make up for the engine's age.  It obviously needs a lot of preglow!
I dug some numbers out of the MB manual:

deg C   deg F   OhmsSpec.   Measrd. Modified
-   -   -   --- --- 
-30 -22 45-65
-20 -4  35-54
-10 14  26-46
-5  23  30 nom.
0   32  850020-35   27  40
20  68  12 nom.
25  77  25008-169   15
80  176 300 0-4 0.5 1

On the bench with the resistance at 8500 Ohms the time was 27
seconds.  The appropriate trim pot inside could make the light's time
shorter, but not any longer, so I paralleled an additional 1000uF
capacitor with the 2200uF one, which extended the light time to 40
seconds.  (All that circuit tracing helped decide how best to do
this.)  The glow timeout is about 150 seconds.

Anyway, after all this the time was better but the light was still
flakey on a test drive.  (I was picking up chainsaw chains, and the
central locking worked fine when I tried it.)  Back on the bench it
was sensitive to twisting and bending.  So though I had resoldered
almost everything already I had not done the heavy relay and connector
pins, which are the most likely candidates as they are so big (cold).
I did those and then it was no longer sensitive to flexing.  Back in
the car the light behaved as I'd expect.  Whew!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] cold starts

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

<>


That might be just a slight bit of hyperbole, but back in the days of the 
Porsche 356A, the REAL Germans in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen claimed that each cold 
start equalled 200 miles at full throttle.


I usually suggest that it's 50-80% depending on whom you read or 
believe. Using an oil that flow more freely at cold temperatures reduces 
and can almost eliminate cold start wear according to tribologists.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Bags of air...

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

<>

Big deal. My C320 has eight bags although they don't look much like those.


Clearly you were shortchanged!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] cold starts

[RELNGSON]

<>


That might be just a slight bit of hyperbole, but back in the days of the 
Porsche 356A, the REAL Germans in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen claimed that each cold 
start equalled 200 miles at full throttle.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Bags of air...

[RELNGSON]

<>

Big deal. My C320 has eight bags although they don't look much like those.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[Marshall Booth]

Zoltan Finks wrote:

So am I to understand that throttle position has an effect on the metering
of the IP * even before the engine starts (as in while initially cranking
starter)?*  It would seem so - otherwise, what could be the benefit of
flooring the pedal while cranking?

Also, what is the reason behind the owner's manual instructing us to pump
the pedal to the floor three times prior to engaging the starter (for cold
conditions)? (BTW, yes, I think it says to hold it to the floor after the
three pumps) This sounds like the pumping of the pedal in a gasser - the
function of which, of course, is to squirt a bunch of fuel down the intake
to get things going.


The greatest effect of pumping the pedal is to insure that the rack will 
move freely. Much of the linkage within the injection pump (that 
integrates pedal position, engine rpm, engine load, boost or atmospheric 
pressure, etc.) involves springs and weights - NOT rigid linkage. 
Pumping the pedal moves some parts from one extreme to the other thru 
the engine oil and fuel that may be stiff and not permit free movement 
without being "shaken up."


If you really want to know what's happening, Bosch has books describing 
their operation. The mechanical injection pump is a complex, remarkable 
device, made with great precision and capable of precise fuel metering 
for 10s of thousands of hours. Few technicians actually understand their 
fine points (I sure don't) and it requires very elaborate/expensive 
tools to adjust them properly.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] wind noises

[RELNGSON]

<>

Which is why the antenna was moved to the rear quarter panel on the 107 SLs 
in the 70s.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?

[Jim Keefe]

Hey Mike
 I guess if I can't get much of anything out of the MB I'll just run it 
until it drops.  That was the original intent, I got a little side-tracked.




From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:56:26 -0500

I take it you are turning down my offer??  I would love to offer you more
but I just can't swing it right now.
  I still kick myself in the ass for selling 82 to Mac for $100!!!  I 
would

love to have it back for the summerI have a bunch of WVO to use up.

Mike
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?


> I'm going to go start the car this weekend, while it's warm.  Since 
there
> has been so little interest,Ii think I'll use it while the weather is 
warm

> since it's still registered and insured, then just junk it when/if it
> quits.
>  It still gets about 30 mpg.  I have a Jeep which gets terrible mileage,
> and I'm going to buy another car, so at some point, probably this 
summer,

> I'll get rid of the MB.
>  BTW, it's in Warren, MA.
>
>>From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
>>Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:29:36 -0500
>>
>>Jim,
>>   Can you tell me again where it is so i can see how far i have to go?
>> It
>>does run right?  Are you in a huge hurry to get it out of the way?  It
>>would
>>be 3 or 4 weeks before I could get time to come pick it up.  This is a
>>navy
>>blue 123 chasis right?  Scrap price for cars here is $60 a ton so how's 
a

>>couple hundred bucks sound?  I think I could swing a roadtrip along with
>>that.
>>
>>Mike
>>- Original Message -
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>>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
>>
>>
>> > Make an offer.
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D $1000 to the knackers?
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>> >>
>> >>I'd pay more than scrap or junk price for it.
>> >>
>> >>Mike
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>> >>
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>> >> > If there is no interest in this car, it looks like curtains for 
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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

[Dave M.]

If you do some searching for these nationwide, typical asking price is
between $7-$12k. So, buying one for $5k and spending a bit on repairs
wouldn't be unexpected. If it's clean and runs well, $5k is a really
good deal, IMO.

If anyone finds a 90-93 W124 diesel for sale - with ASD and heated
seats - I'm interested. Even better if it's somewhere on the west
coast. For some reason almost all of them are on the east coast, d'oh.

=)

-dm

> --
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:07:22 -0600
> From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value
>
>
>
> > I paid $5000 for my 1992 300D.  286Kmi, new transmission at 200K, new
> > timing chain, valve job, and head gasket at 150Kmi.  New 500E headlights
> > and motor mounts just before I bought it, and nearly complete records
> > from both owners.
>
> That is kinda scary. This is a 1992 300D with 159K miles. I surely don't
> want to drop 5 grand and then have to put in a head gasket, timing chain
> ect.
>
> Thanks,
> Rick Knoble

Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

[l02turner]

Hi Rick.
I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K miles and 
is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles and 
the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines is 
nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and more 
luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go ;-)  I 
*love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me back in 
the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Hi All,
I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil and OK 
Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to check out a 
1992 300D tomorrow.


Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two kinda 
rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is 
ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car, will I 
STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?


Enough already

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[Zoltan Finks]

So am I to understand that throttle position has an effect on the metering
of the IP * even before the engine starts (as in while initially cranking
starter)?*  It would seem so - otherwise, what could be the benefit of
flooring the pedal while cranking?

Also, what is the reason behind the owner's manual instructing us to pump
the pedal to the floor three times prior to engaging the starter (for cold
conditions)? (BTW, yes, I think it says to hold it to the floor after the
three pumps) This sounds like the pumping of the pedal in a gasser - the
function of which, of course, is to squirt a bunch of fuel down the intake
to get things going.

Brian
83 240D

On 3/10/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:
>
> > Good to get all our cylinders in line. This brings me back to my
> > question
> > from yesterday: What about feathering when the thing is just
> > getting going?
> > That's always been my way of coaxing a cold gasser along.
> >
>
>
>Feathering has no effect other than make for a real jerky ride.
> Everything is precisely metered by the IP and there is no squirting
> of extra fuel going on.
>They run better warmed up for sure and will not want to climb the
> slightest incline when dead cold. It takes from a few seconds to a
> few minutes to get running decently.
>
> Johnny B.
> I Mac Therefore I am
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[MBZ] Not saint pat cars

[redghost]

Delete as needed

review at leisure

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140709738.html  -- Kevin comparison

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140589539.html  --  190D  $700

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140582693.html  --  80 300d $2500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140565893.html  --  82 SD $1500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140523245.html  --  80 SD $2500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140497456.html  -- Faux Benz $5k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140331323.html  --  71 SEL for Ed B

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140330698.html  --  84  SE $1200

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140238988.html  --  82 240 $2400

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140214040.html  --  92 SE $3600

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/140201180.html  --  85 300D $4k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139972649.html  --  80 300D $1800

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139960195.html  --  87 300d $4500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139865391.html  --  73 280 (114) $900

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139802174.html  --  78 300D Jim Cathey

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139650354.html  --  90 300 cab $11k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139624369.html  --  80 SD $2400

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139584223.html  --  w126 parts car 
$150


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139431557.html  --  82 TD $4800


Not able to find any comparable in the area for Rick Noble to see if 
the one he is looking at is worth what he will pay




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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[Marshall Booth]

redghost wrote:
I always was under the impression that all the cars had block heater, 
but not all cars had the cord.  The e300d has no cord, but being cali 
car did get a block heater.  in L.A.


Starting in the early/mid '80s all US delivered diesels had block 
heaters (but cords were dealer installed, often only if requested). Car 
delivered elsewhere didn't have heaters unless they were ordered as options.


Johnny B.s 190D 2.5 and my 2.0 are Euro cars and were NOT equipped with 
block heaters from the factory. They will reliably start down to about 
10-15 below zero F without a block heater (providing the fuel is treated 
and the preheating circuitry is working properly. Few European cars 
south of the Scandinavian countries were ordered with block heaters.


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[Zoltan Finks]

Thanks. Good to know. BTW I wasn't referring to feathering while in motion,
I meant when trying to start the engine. Yeah, jerky indeed, especially with
a manny. Sounds like something we used to do to Mom's car as teens.

Brian

On 3/10/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:
>
> > Good to get all our cylinders in line. This brings me back to my
> > question
> > from yesterday: What about feathering when the thing is just
> > getting going?
> > That's always been my way of coaxing a cold gasser along.
> >
>
>
>Feathering has no effect other than make for a real jerky ride.
> Everything is precisely metered by the IP and there is no squirting
> of extra fuel going on.
>They run better warmed up for sure and will not want to climb the
> slightest incline when dead cold. It takes from a few seconds to a
> few minutes to get running decently.
>
> Johnny B.
> I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:43 PM, redghost wrote:


I always was under the impression that all the cars had block heater,
but not all cars had the cord.  The e300d has no cord, but being cali
car did get a block heater.  in L.A.



	I wish that was the case. I have owned at least a half dozen with no  
block heaters and not one that just needed the cord plugged in.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

Good to get all our cylinders in line. This brings me back to my  
question
from yesterday: What about feathering when the thing is just  
getting going?

That's always been my way of coaxing a cold gasser along.




	Feathering has no effect other than make for a real jerky ride.  
Everything is precisely metered by the IP and there is no squirting  
of extra fuel going on.
	They run better warmed up for sure and will not want to climb the  
slightest incline when dead cold. It takes from a few seconds to a  
few minutes to get running decently.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Mileage screwup

[RELNGSON]

<.

Oh oh. You are right. Which makes the theoretical time difference 41 minutes.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] 70mph

[RELNGSON]

<>

I simply divided the distance by the speed to make the comparison. Generally, 
traffic is moving closer to 80mph which is quite reasonable.

I'm north of Sand Point near the lake.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 4, Issue 85

[RELNGSON]

<>

No. The Airport Extreme (dopey name) card is cheaper than the plain Airport 
card and cannot be   used in Macs that are just a few years old.

 And that's what those were.   I'd love to pay 79 bucks for an Airport card.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[Zoltan Finks]

The hoops we jump through. I like your thought of aksing for an outlet
designed for disabled parking. Ooop, as I wrote this, it strikes me that you
must mean that you park beside the disabled spot, not in it obivously.

Looking for outlets reminds me of the time I took my Sportster for a trip
from Maryland to North Carolina. I had just installed a new Harley Davidson
battery, but I brought my battery charger just in case (as I'd been having
problems). Right at D.C., it started acting up - fortunately right by a rest
stop. I plugged my orange extension cord into an outlet on the side of the
building there (trailing it across the sidewalk and around the building).
That was what helped me limp it to the nearest HD service center (which I
found via pay phone - glad I had a calling card, 'cause I cel phones those
days were more a luxury). But in the mean time some worker at the rest stop
started threatening me that his boss would "cut my cord" if I didn't unplug
it. Sure enough, soon the big, bad manager guy showed up and threatened the
same. Why they were so bent on saving a few pennies in favor of letting
someone rescue themself, I'm not sure.

Brian
83 240D

On 3/10/06, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As  a salesman driving a late 1970s model diesel made by MB I get weird
> looks and remarks like does you car have navigation control, an ipod and a
> talking map?  Not
>
> When I make reservations at a hotel I always ask for an outside 110volt
> plug
> for my "handicap car"  They always accommodate.  They ask what the hell do
> you mean.  I plug em in with a timer.  around 3 to 4:00AM have her kick
> on.
> Now in 20-30 below stuff, I add my battery warmer, my magnetic lube heater
> (just to add heat to engine as synthetic is fine).  and just plug in
> before
> bed for all night.  Of course the best thing to get is the pencil type
> glows.  If you are still farting around with the filament type dump em.
> What a difference.  Thanks Marshall.
>
> Moral block heater is a must.  Now during the day if I park and it is real
> cold I go out every few hours and start the car up and spin the parking
> lot
> a few times.  I do find my self always looking for 110volt outlets at
> various places I drive just in case, terrible habit I know.  I also
> travel around with handy tester as I have plugged in to dead outlets
> before.
> I always test the outlet.
>
> Regards Tom Scordato
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Berryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no
>
>
> >
> > On Mar 10, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Richard Barnaby wrote:
> >
> >>   Even if you COULD "get by" without it,
> >> Why not have the oil more warm and available.
> >> Seems to me, cheap insurance on the engine life.
> >>
> >
> > I do it for science. It is good to know how to get the car started
> > in the event of power failures ( which usually occur in Winter around
> > here) and how low you can go. I live where you live except they call
> > it New York over here.
> > I also run synthetic oil so my oil is always ready to be pumped. My
> > 190D Euro has no block heater, it used to live in Florida. All of our
> > other MB diesels have block heaters. I will be installing one as well
> > as flushing the cooling system and refilling with G-05, when I get
> > around to it.
> > I mostly tell my cold start stories so some of the other folks on
> > the list can feel more secure about their cars starting when it gets
> > cold.
> > It seems to me that many who live in much warmer climes than you and
> > I have the greatest paranoia when it comes to cold starts. I hope to
> > ease their minds and reduce the stress that they endure as a result.
> >
> >
> > Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[redghost]

I always was under the impression that all the cars had block heater, 
but not all cars had the cord.  The e300d has no cord, but being cali 
car did get a block heater.  in L.A.


On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 11:01 AM, John Berryman wrote:



On Mar 10, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Richard Barnaby wrote:


  Even if you COULD "get by" without it,
Why not have the oil more warm and available.
Seems to me, cheap insurance on the engine life.



I do it for science. It is good to know how to get the car started
in the event of power failures ( which usually occur in Winter around
here) and how low you can go. I live where you live except they call
it New York over here.
I also run synthetic oil so my oil is always ready to be pumped. My
190D Euro has no block heater, it used to live in Florida. All of our
other MB diesels have block heaters. I will be installing one as well
as flushing the cooling system and refilling with G-05, when I get
around to it.
 I mostly tell my cold start stories so some of the other folks on
the list can feel more secure about their cars starting when it gets
cold.
It seems to me that many who live in much warmer climes than you and
I have the greatest paranoia when it comes to cold starts. I hope to
ease their minds and reduce the stress that they endure as a result.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] New ad for S-class: 8 airbags

[John W. Reames III]

> My poor W124 only has two.

My 210 has 6 :) 
-j.

Re: [MBZ] Cheap paint booth

[redghost]

New garage door that she is still peeved cost $5k.  No rattle can 
allowed within at least 100 feet



On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 09:32 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

Is that not what the garage is for? You should see the overspray on 
stuff in

my garage.

Randy B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of redghost
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap paint booth


I am in a micro-climate that is plagued by subtle gusts of wind at the
most inopportune moments.  I have ended up rattle can painting the
garden and curb more than the item intending to be painted.  I am sure
the booth would have allowed me to reduce by at least a can or two the
refinish of bundts and the MBTex.  Will really need it when Gump gets
her new coat.

On Thursday, March 9, 2006, at 05:51 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


On 3/7/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/139979639.html

since we are cheap, why not supply our own?
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I think to most of the people on this list the term "paint booth"
refers to
the driveway on a fairly calm day.  That's certainly what it means to
me.
And if I'm feeling especially proud of my craft I might shake the
rattlecan
for an extra second or two before getting started.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
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Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[Zoltan Finks]

Good to get all our cylinders in line. This brings me back to my question
from yesterday: What about feathering when the thing is just getting going?
That's always been my way of coaxing a cold gasser along.

And further, what is the actual effect of feathering the pedal on this type
of system. Does depressing the pedal actually squirt fuel? Or simply ratchet
up the IP? Or what? As I said yesterday, I understand the workings of a
carbureted gas engine, where there is a direct linkage between your foot and
the accelerator pump which squirts fuel down the throats. But what about
these diesel systems? Note: Those listers annoyed by such a simplistic,
basic question may simply delete - no need to get worked up.

Brian
83 240D


On 3/10/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:36:39 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think there might be a miscommunication here. I don't think John B was
> > talking about flooring the accelerator after the engine is running, I
> > think he meant floor the accelerator while you are cranking the starter,
> > and the thing is sort of showing signs of starting, but is not really
> > running yet.
>
> Yes! And once it starts running, back off on the accelerator to keep it
> running at a reasonable, Goldilocks speed (not too fast, not too slow,
> just right :-) ). As things warm up, you'll have to back off more.
>
>
> > So I don't think he meant to just rev the heck out of the thing when
> > it's cold. That would seem a bad idea to me too.
>
> Yes, that is a bad idea.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Apple original Airport card

[redghost]

they have a weekly ad or two with lots of loss leaders.  $3.99 for a 
801.11g (54) card. Might be junk and last a year, but for that price 
get four and you are still better than paying retail on a name brand 
card.



On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 07:51 AM, Sunil Hari wrote:

what's so special about Fry's?  I've never been to one, but then again 
I

don't buy from retailers much any more.

On 3/10/06, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It should be illegal for westcoasters to torture eastcoasters with the
mere mention of Fry's. I'd give you all the CompUSA's on the planet 
for one

Fry's.

  -Curt

  Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:12:26 -0800
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apple original Airport card
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Look at USB ethernet or wireless to regain your networking.  I have
tried a few and they do a fine job on a non powered hub.  IIRC, there
are wireless adapters at Fry's too.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: 1988 Caprice Classic half track/ice fishing vehicle

[Zoltan Finks]

At first I thought the show was set in Minnesota. Very similar culture to
what they're portraying - accents and all (there is a slight variance
between the Canadian accent and the Minnesota accent).

Brian

On 3/10/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The Red Green show?  It's hilarious!
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> On 3/9/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Yes! Love the Red Green!
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On 3/9/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > R A Bennell wrote:
> > > > Now, you know, you have to admit it is kinda neat - and it went for
> > > under a
> > > > grand.
> > >
> > > It's extremely clever and also frightening at the same time.
> > >
> > > It looks like something Red Green would come up with.
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Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:36:39 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think there might be a miscommunication here. I don't think John B was
> talking about flooring the accelerator after the engine is running, I
> think he meant floor the accelerator while you are cranking the starter,
> and the thing is sort of showing signs of starting, but is not really
> running yet. 

Yes! And once it starts running, back off on the accelerator to keep it
running at a reasonable, Goldilocks speed (not too fast, not too slow,
just right :-) ). As things warm up, you'll have to back off more.


> So I don't think he meant to just rev the heck out of the thing when
> it's cold. That would seem a bad idea to me too.

Yes, that is a bad idea.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[redghost]

I may have the caps.  Will know afternoon Sat.  Have to finish the 
garage where are the parts are living since I got kicked out of the 
home garage


On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 06:51 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Anybody got a U-Pull (-priced, anyway) right front fender molding?
Also need two ivory-ish hubcaps, but I hold out less hope for those.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] cold weather paranoia

[redghost]

On the 115, just hook it to the air filter and have it run all the time


On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 06:47 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


 Anyway as Jim Cathey is fond of mentioning you could take a hairdryer
or heat gun and shoot it in the intake. That'll get you going pretty
easy.


On the Unimog it's a lot easier, since you can sit in the driver's
seat and point the gun at the air intake snorkel.  It's metal, too,
so the heat gun is unlikely to do any damage even if mishandled.
This'd be a lot harder on a car where, if alone, you'd have to
hang the thing on the front by itself.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Apple original Airport card

[redghost]

they have paired with Outpost.com, so just go there and get your online 
goodness. No sweet deals on junk hardware, but you get most of the 
selection.


CompUSA is garbage and overpriced


On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 06:38 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

It should be illegal for westcoasters to torture eastcoasters with the 
mere mention of Fry's. I'd give you all the CompUSA's on the planet 
for one Fry's.


  -Curt

  Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:12:26 -0800
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Look at USB ethernet or wireless to regain your networking.  I have
tried a few and they do a fine job on a non powered hub.  IIRC, there
are wireless adapters at Fry's too.



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Re: [MBZ] Block Heaters Yes or no

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:


 very few people heat with
Wood anymore, and those that do, understand what you can do with  
it.  I

only
mention it because of your "science" in how to work without power.




	I heat with wood but have an oil fired hot water system that kicks  
on now and again. I have a black-belt in wood science too.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Block Heaters Yes or no

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 I've considered this idea but the idea of being out there doing  
the draining in the cold gives me a shiver...


  -Curt



Go Synthetic, oh mighty bush pilots. Do they allow syn oil in aircraft?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

I think there might be a miscommunication here. I don't think John  
B was
talking about flooring the accelerator after the engine is running,  
I think
he meant floor the accelerator while you are cranking the starter,  
and the
thing is sort of showing signs of starting, but is not really  
running yet.
So I don't think he meant to just rev the heck out of the thing  
when it's

cold. That would seem a bad idea to me too.

Brian



	As it picks-up cylinders the accelerator is let up accordingly. I  
try to be clear about most things. Sorry if anyone blowed-up their  
engine, I have 3 good ones for $850ea.
	I would hope that common sense would kick-in at some point of the  
process. This is stuff that I'm just programmed to do, I don't really  
have to think about it at all. I kinda know what to expect when my  
breath freezes in my nostrils and on my moustache.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Two way antenna want 3 way 1233 300 TD

[Marshall Booth]

Jim Cathey wrote:

My dash switch has only 2 positions.


The 80's vintage switch has 5 positions, two of them momentary.
The 70's non-automatic antenna had three positions, two of them
momentary.


The OE Hirschmann antenna in my '85 190D 2.0  Euro with Becker Europa 
731 T radio had NO antenna switch. The antenna is up whenever the radio 
is on and down when it's off.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

[Rick Knoble]

You are totally asking the wrong people about curing the diesel disease. 
I

mean, that's like asking your crack dealer if it's a good idea to kick the
habit.


I kinda figured that.

I paid $5000 for my 1992 300D.  286Kmi, new transmission at 200K, new 
timing
chain, valve job, and head gasket at 150Kmi.  New 500E headlights and 
motor

mounts just before I bought it, and nearly complete records from both
owners.


That is kinda scary. This is a 1992 300D with 159K miles. I surely don't 
want to drop 5 grand and then have to put in a head gasket, timing chain 
ect.

Thanks,
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 

Re: [MBZ] Two way antenna want 3 way 1233 300 TD

[Jim Cathey]

These are really hard to find in working used condition, and I could 
find no

one to repair my old OEM antenna that had a short in it.


I'll take a whack at it!  You pay for shipping and parts, and IF I can
fix it my fee will be $20.  (I would suggest you at least look inside
it first to make sure it's not rusted into a blob.)  Otherwise, nada.
(Except for return shipping, if you want it back.)

No guarantee that there's no Shoe Goo or whatever inside it when
I'm done!  I promise to fix it as well as I would for one of my,
ummm, fine rides.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] the free? 240D

[Jim Cathey]

I think that changing sheet metal and the rad would be MUCH easier than
pulling the engine/tranny out of both cars and swapping them.  It may 
very
well have some hidden frame damage which would necessitate the 
engine/tranny

swap.  Either way, the stick would be much funner to drive.


Usually you let the condition of the rust and paint determine
which is the donor, and what gets donated.  Engine swaps are easy
compared to much bodywork.  Tranny type swaps are also doable,
so long as it's not a column shift vs floor!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Block Heaters Yes or no

[Jim Cathey]

It is important, in my present line of work that my car starts
without requiring 110v, as I am frequently in disaster areas where
power is out. I often have to stay in mass shelters with evacuees and
disaster workers of all flavors and power is a precious commodity,
its use is prioritized. Cell phones come before block heaters and
there are many more important needs than that.


Webasto or Espar fuel-fired preheater!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Two way antenna want 3 way 1233 300 TD

[Jim Cathey]

My dash switch has only 2 positions.


The 80's vintage switch has 5 positions, two of them momentary.
The 70's non-automatic antenna had three positions, two of them
momentary.

-- Jim