Re: [MBZ] I love my MB Diesel

[Levi Smith]

Yeah, I saw similar results with my 83' 300D.  I would assume Luther is
getting the results in some way similar to how I was when I got something
like 1600 miles to 17 gallons of diesel.  That is by only using diesel long
enough to get up to 80C, and then a minute before shutdown and using WVO for
the rest of the driving.  (:

Levi

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Which mercedes were you driving?  (mystified).
Lynn
"Victoria" '85 300SD
200K + miles

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Re: [MBZ] 300CD ACC Challenge

[Marshall Booth]

B Dike wrote:

123 experts,
  
  SWMBO has made it abundantly clear that the ACC on the 85 300CD is  unacceptable.  In hot weather the AC works fine but the monovalve  control is so indifferent that it initializes and hangs in full heat  way too long especially for someone who is constantly getting in and  out of the car on errands in hot temps.  The problem *must* be  fixed...or else...[shudders].   Direct measures are called  for.  The monovalve insert is fine.  The foam tube is  fine.  A valve to manually shut off the coolant line would work  but it seems that better ways are possible.   We know that  the monovalve stays open if no current is applied. I would like to wire  a relay to feed 12V DC current to the monovalve to force it  closed.  So class, here is your homework assignment:What is the most convenient source of fuzed, low amperage 12V switched  power to use through a relay?  Bonus points are based on  simplicity and effectiveness. Extra credit is awarded if a shunt in the  ACC is

 identified that would accomplish the same purpose.  Clever  and innovative 
applications of magnets on the monovalve are also  acceptable.  Good luck 
class.  The fate of a coupe is in your  hands.


Why not just make it work as it was designed to work?

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] I love my MB Diesel

[ms . 300SD]

Which mercedes were you driving?  (mystified).
Lynn
"Victoria" '85 300SD
200K + miles

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Re: [MBZ] Shutoff Valve for 602

[Marshall Booth]

John Peterson / ImmersionStudio LLC wrote:

First symptom this morning with the 300D 2.5 is a slow shutdown, maybe 10
seconds.  I'm suspicious of the shutdown valve.  Where is it?  Can I test
with MityVac?  What do they cost?


More likely a vacuum leak (every rubber junction is suspect), but the 
shutoff valve is a less likely possibility. The valve is on top of the 
injection pump with a single (usually) brown vacuum line going to it. 
Old vacuum line rubber connections often leak more when cold.


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Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[Marshall Booth]

Christopher McCann wrote:
"'95 is normally aspirated with Porche designed intake runners. Great 
fuel mileage, updated (modern) cosmetics."


Almost bought one of these in pristine condition. no turbo is slow. 
I regret NOT buying it.


The 0-60 mph time of the 124.128 and the 124.131 is almost the same 12.8 
vs 12.6 sec. and the fuel consumption will be nearly identical (32-36 
mpg highway). About the only reason to prefer the turbo engine is if you 
do much driving at altitudes above 3000' or at speeds much above 80 mph 
were the turbo gives you an slight edge. Both have a top speed of about 
122-123 mph at sea level.


The 0-60 time for a 124.133 ('87 300D) would be under 11 sec once the 
trap was removed, highway economy at 29-31 mpg and top speed about 5-6 
mph faster (128mph).


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Re: [MBZ] OT How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$...

[David Brodbeck]

Peter Frederick wrote:
Outright pirating is a problem, but would be much less so if 
they charged the real price of $25 or so per copy instead of $299 
list.
  


Windows XP isn't $299 per copy.  Office is that and more, though, and 
I'd agree that Office pricing is thoroughly outrageous.  Unfortunately, 
there are no other products on the market that offer quite the same 
level of functionality for business users, and Microsoft knows it.  
(OpenOffice.org is a nice option for home users who don't need the more 
sophisticated parts of Office, though.)  It's a similar situation with 
Adobe Photoshop, or with AutoCAD -- the price is extremely high because 
there's no serious competition.


This topic is a slightly sensitive one for me.  As an IT worker, I'm 
constantly being asked by employers to break the law by installing 
unlicensed copies of Microsoft software, just because they company 
doesn't want to pony up the cash to pay for what they're using.  The 
whole thing puts me in a bind, because I have no doubts that if the BSA 
did a license audit and found violations, they would throw my ass out 
the door and I'd never work in this town again.  As much as I hate the 
idea of Microsoft software "phoning home" to check license status, it 
does help me out.  "I can't install another copy of that because it will 
shut itself down after 30 days" sticks a lot better than "I can't 
install another copy of that because it's a license violation."

Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[Marshall Booth]

Bob Rentfro wrote:

Thanks, Casey.
Which ones have the "biodegradable harness" Herr Doktor talks about?


The '95 E300Ds with the OM606.91 engine (124.131) have the bad wiring 
harness (not real expensive). The wiring harness in the '93 and earlier 
300D 2.5s (124.128) was fine.


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Re: [MBZ] Possible FI Problem - '91 300D 2.5T

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Visited the dealership to discuss my cold start problem - to re-state the 
problem - when the engines cold, it starts instantly but will not rev - when 
I try to rev I get smoke from the exhaust and it acts like it;s on 3 
cylinders.  It usually clears up with-in 100 yards - I put the pedal all the 
way down and it gradually gains speed - while smoking - and then after the 
100 yards it screams - running faster than at any other time.


The service technician asked about all the usual stuff that you guys 
suggested I try - filters, leaks, etc - then he said he's seen a weak FI 
leak fuel when sitting and leaving a pool of fuel in the cylinder.  Then, 
when the engine is started it is hard to burn before finally reaching a 
temperature where it ignites and then it runs very fast.  Sounds a lot like 
mine.


So, I thought I'd get your collective opinion - if it sounds like a logical 
possibility I'll have a diesel shop service the FI's in case that's the 
problem.


I will do an oil analysis to see what the fuel content of the oil is - if an 
injector is leaking there should be a high fuel content in the oil possibly 
affecting the lubricating ability of the oil.   Since I just changed the oil 
I'll wait until I have 1000-1500 miles on the oil before I extract a sample. 
The kit we sell has a bellows bottle and 4' of tubing to insert into the 
dipstick - so the oil doesn;t have to be changed to get a sample.


What you describe could be the result of ONE glow plug failing. That's 
not infrequent and the dash light diagnostic won't pick it up. The 
scenario above is possible, but I've NEVER heard of it happening in any 
car that I've serviced or have been consulted about (and that's a LOT of 
diesels) so that's a LOT less likely.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Curt/116 available soon.

[Curt Raymond]

Wow Jim, would I ever!
   
  Unfortunately I don't think its in the cards right now. Even if the house 
falls through, which it looks more like every day that they sit on our offer, 
it would be several months before we'd be ready to move on anything, maybe even 
next summer. While it'd be relatively easy for me to take a leave of abscence 
from work my wife owns her business and we'd have to rig up things to run 
without us and not run us into the poor house. Its doable but it'd take time to 
set right. So for now its dreams mostly.
   
  -Curt
   
   
  Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:09:13 EDT
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt/116 available soon.
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Curt,
 
Yo surely have every reason to keep the woman and leave the house!   
She 
sounds great!
Would you consider  paying up for an Arizona rust free sun yellow 116  
diesel 
that looks great, runs great, and has had many, many things rebuilt or  
replaced over the 20 years that I have had it.  It should travel well 
with  no 
additional work but who knows!  I think it is worth $4500.  The  engine 
has about 
   
  *SNIP*
   
  You would be first in line.
 
Regards  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 142 K  miles



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On May 22, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

> Just when they got it right, they discontinued them!!
>
> Marshall

That figgers.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Peter Frederick]

I suspect a blown gasket would also account for the fuel dilution, now 
that I think of it.  Where else is it gonna go, since it won't burn 
very well!


Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$...

[Peter Frederick]

Microsoft's software has always been grossly overpriced (as is most 
software, for that matter), and as they have not other product, expect 
them to get more Nazified as time goes on.  Billy has ALWAYS wanted 
total access to the assets of anyone who "purchases" (licenses, which 
is the real robbery here) "his" software.  I think he's dreamed of 
requiring everything in the world to be "at his fingertips" -- 
including all the money ever printed or coined.  Control freak.


Competition from open source software hurts them terribly (or so they 
claim).  Outright pirating is a problem, but would be much less so if 
they charged the real price of $25 or so per copy instead of $299 
list.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] '68 230S in local paper

[Marshall Booth]

Luther Gulseth wrote:

copy of add.

1968 MERCEDES 250S, actual 75K, 20 year storage, $7950 obo (479)649-8675


The '68 M180.94 engine with air injection used in a 230S was a real 
DOG!! I think the M108.92 engine was a bit better. Price is way out of 
line for a very ordinary car.


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Re: [MBZ] rear brake is driveaxle

[Marshall Booth]

Neal Kramarcy wrote:
Well list I want to thank all who had great suggestions and admit I'm 
feeling a little stupid.  When you get the same noise before you replace 
a driveaxle and then it returns it's best to assume that the new 
driveaxle has failed.  Yes, that's apparently the problem.  My inde 
listened then put the car on the lift and let the axles hang and the 
noise disappears.  I guess I was too sure that the axle was ok since the 
noise returned in 6 weeks of replacement of the driveaxle ( about 
1000-1500 miles) and if the old one lasted 25 years how can one fail in 
6 weeks.  Well, that appears to be the problem.   Last night I jacked up 
the rear end using the differential and left it overnight.  A quiet ride 
this morning.   How many miles will this treatment give some relief, I 
don't know.  And I don't think I'll do the experiment.  On the bright 
side, I 've certainly learned a lot about the rear brake system.  Now to 
deal with the supplier of the driveaxle.  Again thanks for the help.


What you've posted sound much more like bad rear wheel bearing than rear 
axle (but COULD be either).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Marshall Booth]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
hmmm, never heard of that one.  Makes sense though.  Anybody else heard 
this one?


It's rare, but it CAN happen. Blown head gasket MUCH more common (I know 
of more than a dozen on OM60x engines).


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Re: [MBZ] update on my 2.5 turbo

[Marshall Booth]

Peter Frederick wrote:
If it doesn't turn black when the engine it hot, likely something with 
the injectors or a dead glow plug or two.  If it does turn black, low 
compression.


Copious blue smoke on acceleration is most likely a bad (leaking) 
turbo, but idle won't be affected.


Bad head gasket/cracked head will result in coolant loss and/or high 
pressure cold in the cooling system.


A head gasket blown between the #1 cylinder and the front oil supply 
passage (occurs in ALL OM60x engines, but a little less frequent in the 
'90s versions) will give all the symptoms Kaleb describes except maybe 
the high oil level.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] I wanted AquaTread 3s but

[Marshall Booth]

John Berryman wrote:

	I have found that 201s are more prone to hydroplaning than larger  
heavier MBs and the new Bridgestone BT70s tires I put on in December  
are plum wore out. I guess I did a little driving since then.
	I never loved those tires and they were terrible in the wet, worse  
in snow. I bought them at the only place that could supply,mount and  
balance the tires on the only day I could take the time to have it  
done. I hope the new tires give me what I want.


The Sears/Bridgestones (about equal to an inexpensive Turenza) I put on 
one of my 201s were the smoothest riding and quietest tires I ever used 
(and they lasted a good while too), but had poor wet traction and 
traction in snow was ALMOST impossible. The Michelin X-ones I have now 
are not quite as quiet, but traction (dry, wet or snow) is FAR superior. 
Just when they got it right, they discontinued them!!


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Re: [MBZ] NON TURBO diesel shut off valve

[John Berryman]

On May 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Is not the trick to leave the attachments a bit loose and to
put a vacuum on it and see that it sucks itself down?  That
implies that it's hooked to _something_, anyway.

-- Jim



	That's one way, another is to gently pull back after hooking the  
link and if you feel resistance and can't pull it straight out, bolt  
it up.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Discount Tires Online

[Marshall Booth]

Smith, Todd wrote:

Hello James,

I cannot say anything about specifically Michelin tires because I truly don't know, but I 
have read reports from people that "supposedly" cut open a new set of BF 
Goodrich Long Trail tire and they were fewer ply then the same tire purchased from a 
different source.  I know that if you go to Goodyear's page then they talk about having 
different tires for different outlets



Tires have DOT ratings, speed, temp, wear, load, max pressure, etc. If 
the ratings are the same, then the tires better be the same or there is 
the potential for a MASSIVE lawsuit that like the Firestone/Explorer 
suit that put Firestone out of business.


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Re: [MBZ] test #2

[David Brodbeck]

Rick Knoble wrote:

Batch file. It ran. Virus or not?
  


It's actually a text file. For some reason this list puts a .bat 
extension on text files.

Re: [MBZ] Torque for delivery valve holder

[Marshall Booth]

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Thu, 18 May 2006 05:26:43 -0400 (EDT) "John W. Reames III"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wed, 17 May 2006, Bob DuPuy wrote:


Geez guys catch your breath, Bruce was asking about an 82 300CD. last
time I check they came with the 5 cyl 617 engine! I remember a copper
seal but not an O-ring on those. I wish I was an EPC Guru and could
check for sure.

OOOPS. Sorry. The 61x's use an ordinary socket (as opposed to the 33
tooth  spline "don't mess with this" fitting).


Not all of them.

My '84 Euro 617.912 uses the splines.

Note: I had to modify the Sir Tools spline socket to get it to work right;
Sir Tools tools are junk.


I believe that OM61x injection pumps changed to using splined delivery 
valves in the early '80s but I don't have a specific date. I know that 
the '84 and '85s I've owned or seen used splined pipe fitting. I don't 
recall if my '82 did. All of my OM60x pumps (from early '84 on) require 
the splined wrench. I believe the splined wrench I have is a Hazet. I 
haven't tried any others.


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Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase DIY

[Marshall Booth]

archer wrote:
Note: Many years ago (30-40-50?) when Sears first started selling Michelin 
tires, Consumers Reports tested them and found that "Sears Michelins" did 
not last as long as "Dealer Michelins".


Sear purchased and sold many Michelin tires with both the Sears and 
Michelin names on them. They were NEVER advertised as being identical to 
other Michelin tires (although in fact the few I bought gave excellent 
service) but they were equal to other Michelin tires selling for about 
the same price or a little more. The Sears/Michelin Roadhandler X tire 
was NOT identical to the Michelin X-one tire sold at about the same 
time, but the Sears tire sold for considerably less - and for a period 
of time Sears sold BOTH tires. Sears also sold a Michelin Rainhandler 
and Roadhandler Sport tire at the same time they sold Michelin 
MXV-4/MXV-4+ with the former selling for about 60% what the latter tires 
sold for, but the names and specifications were VERY different. Anyone 
that could read could read what the difference was. It was written on 
the sidewalls


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Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[Curt Raymond]

Actually I don't have an SD yet, figured touring the US in a 201 would be 
rough...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:54:20 -0400
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Uh, no, I want another 116 SD, so keep the guurl and sell me the car 
;-).

I miss my old one (of course I cursed it nonstop for the last three 
years or
so I had it). I mean the SD of course.

Mac



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> Is that normal for the fan to run as soon as you start the car?

It is _not_ normal for the fan to always run, nor is the fan
particularly rated for that kind of duty.  Plan on replacing
it at some point, if so.  More than once, likely.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] NON TURBO diesel shut off valve

[Jim Cathey]

I am familiar with the trick on the Turbo, Alda equipped engines of 
pivoting
the Alda out of the way and visually ensuring that the hook is aligned 
with

the rack properly.


Is not the trick to leave the attachments a bit loose and to
put a vacuum on it and see that it sucks itself down?  That
implies that it's hooked to _something_, anyway.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase

[Marshall Booth]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
No, the tires at walmart are lower spec than the same tire elsewhere, 
its a fact, they do that to get a cheaper tire.


NOT A FACT. The quality of the Wal-Mart product is reflected in the name 
and specifications (speed/load/temperature/treadlife for tires). It 
CAN'T be bought elsewhere using the same model name/number and 
specifications if the products are NOT the same. Some products will have 
a very different warranty as well. For the consumer to assume that ALL 
Michelin or Snapper or Mobil products are identical in quality is naive, 
but many manufacturers of commodities, can't economically make different 
quality products. I feel sure that the content of the CocaCola container 
that you buy at WalMart is identical to the content of the Coke 
container you buy down the street at the gas station despite the 
disparate price. Same is true of Mobil 1 oil, but Exxon/Mobil has every 
right to make a different products that meets a different specification 
- BUT it must be distinguishable or the threat of hundreds or thousands 
of lawsuits is created.


To reduce the price that dealers must pay for the merchandise they sell, 
they can often buy products WITHOUT any warranty. When YOU buy a product 
from a merchant that has NOT purchased a warranty, you buy it devoid of 
ANY manufacturer's warranty - only the warranty that the packager or 
merchant chooses to supply. Many cameras and Japanese electronics were 
sold that way back when I was buying such stuff. The DVD transport in a 
Dell or HP computer has NO warranty from the maker, but only from HP or 
Dell. The warranty for parts in a new car seldom come from the actual 
manufacturer, but from the car maker. The original Bilsteins in a 
Mercedes have ONLY Mercedes' warranty, but the identical shock, bought 
later from an authorized dealer carries a warranty for the life of the car.


Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

Re: [MBZ] 201 4 VS 6

[Mitch Haley]

> The six is quieter, smoother, and noticeably more powerful...

I was thinking the 2.6 / 5sp was almost as fast (straight line)
as the 16V. Isn't it somewhere around 160hp?

Mitch.

[MBZ] Think about it

[RELNGSON]

>From today's AvWeb Flash;

<>
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Re: [MBZ] Best Early 90's Choice

[Kevin]

For what it's worth, the recently resurrected 87 300D with ducttaped
and bandaided transmission turns in 29.5 on the daily commute, and on a 
trip this weekend to san diego was pulling down tanks at 33 mpg. Acts like
it has a bit of a lazy turbo, so I'll be checking the usual suspects with
respect to boost in my copious free time. Right now, the 87 300TD will walk
this thing off the road. ALDA is shimmed, so it's likely that a line is
coked, sensor effed up, or perhaps it needs a new turbo - this engine had
a trap on it for about 260k... oil consumption is also a teense higher
than usual.

As an aside, for those of you who are avoiding the 95s because they don't
have a turbo, and instead buying 90-93s, look at the horsepower and torque
numbers before you make that decision. Granted, the 606 is more complicated
than the 602, but the 95 is a more powerful car. IIRC, they are within ten
horsepower of the 87 300D.

K

On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:52:10AM -0500, OK Don wrote:
> The '90 300D is getting around thirty in my daily commute and thirty
> five on the trip we took to Albuquerque in March.
> Don't have exact figures because I haven't fixed the odometer that
> broke 50 miles out of Wichita. The figure form the trip is based on
> map miles, and discounts the loval driving in Albuquerque.
> 
> On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So what kind of mileage are you getting with it?

Re: [MBZ] OT How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$...

[Rick Knoble]

Imagine that, being forced to actually buy software instead of stealing 
it.




Imagine that, the richest man in the world insuring that he will remain the 
richest man in the world...

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 

Re: [MBZ] OT How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$...

[Rick Knoble]

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Joe Knight wrote:

I suppose I'm nowhere near the first to notice that to continue to use
WXP Update it's now required that users allow the installation of what
is essentially spyware to confirm you've got a 'genuine' licensed copy
installed.  What'l they think of next?



Imagine that, being forced to actually buy software instead of stealing 
it.



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Re: [MBZ] 201 4 VS 6

[kevin kraly]

Well, they decided to buy a nice 1993 190E 2.3 limited edition with 200K 
miles on it.  It has maintenance records back to delivery from the original 
owner, rebuilt engine and tranny, new tires, all belts and hoses replaced, 
new struts, alt, radiator, all of the BIG stuff, and the AC works.  They got 
it for $2700 which isn't too bad.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 

Re: [MBZ] test #2

[Rick Knoble]

Batch file. It ran. Virus or not?
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

'87 190 DT
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[MBZ] NON TURBO diesel shut off valve

[Marshall Field]

Car I am working on is a '77 300D, NON TURBO, NO ALDA.   The diesel shut off
valve on the IP needs replacement as it will not hold a vacuum.

My concern is getting the...hook...on the end of the valve properly aligned
and engaged with the ...rack within the IP You are working inside a
hole, and I am fearful if not done properly, that the engine will go into
...overspeedand potential self-destruct on engine start up.

I am familiar with the trick on the Turbo, Alda equipped engines of pivoting
the Alda out of the way and visually ensuring that the hook is aligned with
the rack properly.

But on this model, this trick can not be used, for up-top on the IP is the
Aneroid altitude compensator, which, even if removed would not gain visual
access.

This is worrying me greatly, and any help and comment is most appreciated!!

Marshall in Feenix, '77 300D, '81 300TD, '85 300DT-Kalifornia model

Re: [MBZ] OT How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$...

[Zeitgeist]

I prefer the phrase "borrowing with extreme prejudice"

On 5/22/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Imagine that, being forced to actually buy software instead of stealing it.
--
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Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
'84 300D (212k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] Vox

[RELNGSON]

> < during a weekend trip to NYC.  Several stars were performing operatic hits
> at a Met gala/retirement party for outgoing GM Joe Volpe held at Lincoln
> Center.  Anyway, Heppner has one truly fine Wagnerian tenor voice...
> 
Heppner and Jane Eaglen make a fine pair of Wagnerian heavyweights, in both 
senses of the term. The I-Tunes music store has a large number of his 
recordings of which one can hear 30 second snippets of each one at no cost.

I'm waiting for the Beatles to settle their quarrel with Apple so that their 
music will be available.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase

[Marshall Booth]

David Brodbeck wrote:
Really?  I would think a Michelin was a Michelin.  Do they provide a 
lower spec tire specifically for Wal Mart?


Michelin makes dozens and dozens of different tires. They are all 
Michelin tires. They are NOT all equal. A particular Michelin tire with 
a particular name and DOT rating will be the same at ANY dealer. If the 
dealer (Wal-Mart or any other dealer) is selling a tire made to a 
different specification, it will have a different rating and name!


Marshall
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190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

Re: [MBZ] Phoenix 240D color

[RELNGSON]

I think I et a popsicle that color once.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] 201 4 VS 6

[RELNGSON]

<<<>

I countered:

<>

<>

Here's my hands-on personal experience. I owned my '85 190E 2.3 from 1/85 to 
2/89 and my 190E 2.6 from 2/89 to 3/95 and I disagree completely. The six 
cylinder engine is very easy to maintain and normal service items including 
pre-Topsider oil changes are easy to access. Including a belt change. The six 
is 
quieter, smoother, and noticeably more powerful with only a slight gas mileage 
penalty. And, from '89 on, the 2.6 trans can be modified for first gear start 
if 
desired. Mine was modified in '92 when the fix details became available from 
MBUSA.

RLE/Seattle

Re: [MBZ] test #3

[Luther Gulseth]

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Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (160kmi)
'82 300D  (74kmi needs block or engine)

Re: [MBZ] Aux Cooling Fan - Short

[David Brodbeck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I noticed that my auxillary cooling fan was not plugged in the other day and 
wanted to get that fixed.  The fan has never been plugged in and the AC has not 
worked since I got the car.  After I plugged it in as soon as I started the car 
it ran for about 15 seconds and then stopped.


How are the bearings on the fan?  Does it spin freely?

Re: [MBZ] OT How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$...

[David Brodbeck]

Joe Knight wrote:

I suppose I'm nowhere near the first to notice that to continue to use
WXP Update it's now required that users allow the installation of what
is essentially spyware to confirm you've got a 'genuine' licensed copy
installed.  What'l they think of next?
  


Imagine that, being forced to actually buy software instead of stealing it.

Re: [MBZ] Noisy Diff

[David Brodbeck]

Jim Cathey wrote:

I don't either.  Ours seemed loudest at low speeds, because the
ambient noise was lower.  Reminded me of a straight-cut gearbox
from an old school bus.  (Of which I had some experience as a
kid.)
  


I remember those!  They really howled, didn't they?

[MBZ] Acc Fan Woes

[Frederick Moir]

Greetings and Salutations.
  This may not apply, however my '85 190E had a fan issue, in that the fan 
would not function in the "run" position unless the key was turned ever so 
slightly toward off. Bad ignition switch. HTH
  Fred Moir
  Lynn MA
  One of these
  One of those
  One of them
  One of de udders.(Gas Attack!)


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In a message dated 5/22/2006 10:42:43 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My wife  and I decided this weekend that if we don't get this house we've 
made an offer  on we're going to buy a 116 300SD and a teardrop trailer and 
tour 
the US... I  love that woman.



Curt,
 
Yo surely have every reason to keep the woman and leave the house!   She 
sounds great!
Would you consider  paying up for an Arizona rust free sun yellow 116  diesel 
that looks great, runs great, and has had many, many things rebuilt or  
replaced over the 20 years that I have had it.  It should travel well with  no 
additional work but who knows!  I think it is worth $4500.  The  engine has 
about 
20,000 miles on a serious rebuild that should run for  a long time.  I have 
receipts for new parts and machine work totaling  over $2700, I did all the 
labor.  Same with the AC, the  driveshaft, motor mounts, etc., etc, etc.  The 
palomino gold interior looks  really good and the seats have been removed and 
renovated, with new horsehair  pads in  back.  Front and back bumper skins and 
rubber replaced, new  headlight surrounds (with spare Euro headlights.  The 100 
watt US  headlights may be the best you will have ever seen and I can't justify 
changing  to the Euros).
 
No trailer hitch though!  And it is not clear if you were thinking  diesel 
power.
 
I am getting past the point where I can keep maintaining my fleet, and must  
consider parting with my baby. 
 
You would be first in line.
 
Regards  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 142 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[Steve MacSween]

Uh, no, I want another 116 SD, so keep the guurl and sell me the car ;-).

I miss my old one (of course I cursed it nonstop for the last three years or
so I had it). I mean the SD of course.

Mac

on 5/22/06 2:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Or at least hang on to the 116 300SD .
> 
> Quoting Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> on 5/22/06 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> My wife and I decided this weekend that if we don't get this house
>> we've made
>>> an offer on we're going to buy a 116 300SD and a teardrop trailer and
>> tour the
>>> US... I love that woman.
>> 
>> Kewl plan. Better hang onto that girl, LoL.
>> 
>> Mac
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Aux Cooling Fan - Short

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 5/22/2006 10:33:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  noticed that my auxillary cooling fan was not plugged in the other day and 
 wanted to get that fixed.  The fan has never been plugged in and the AC  has 
not worked since I got the car.  After I plugged it in as soon as I  started 
the car it ran for about 15 seconds and then stopped.  I noticed  that it had 
blown a fuse.  Other point of interest is that on the repair  information from 
previous owner it says "conversion to r134a, wire aux fan to  run 
constantly".  The car has always run under 100 degrees so it has not  
overheated and does 
not run hot.  Is that normal for the fan to run as  soon as you start the car 
?

I know that I need to check the schematic  to see that the wiring has not 
been altered and I imagine I should check to  see that the aux fan switch is 
working.  



Dan,
 
With any performance limited AC unit, some gain can be made by running the  
aux fan as soon as the car is started.  R134 would fit that category.   Here, 
in Phoenix,  I run the aux fan continuously, whenever the key is on,  to try 
and get the most out of my 300SD's AC.  You merely have to run a  jumper from 
the temp sensor wire to ground to do this.  Or unplug the  sensor wire and 
ground it on a small stud or such.  The temp sensor on mine  is on top of the 
thermostat housing and is connected by a single wire, brown, I  think.  
 
Why you blew a fuse is a different animal.  It could be the fuse  holder has 
been overheated so many times that heat build up at that point is  excessive.  
Also, the aux fan is paired with another big load, either the  AC clutch, or 
the AC fan, and the combined load is too much for the factory  fuse.  There is 
a service bulletin out for your car, and many others  including my 98 ML, to 
switch these loads to a separately added in line fuse  with more ampacity.  
Try a new fuse and run your aux fan with the AC for a  few minutes, then put 
your finger on each end of the fuse holder to see if it is  getting really hot. 
 
Wet your finger first!  This will tell you that  you should install the TSB or 
fix the overload, whatever it is.
 
Keep us informed.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 142 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[thargrav]

Or at least hang on to the 116 300SD .

Quoting Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> on 5/22/06 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > My wife and I decided this weekend that if we don't get this house
> we've made
> > an offer on we're going to buy a 116 300SD and a teardrop trailer and
> tour the
> > US... I love that woman.
> 
> Kewl plan. Better hang onto that girl, LoL.
> 
> Mac
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[Steve MacSween]

on 5/22/06 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My wife and I decided this weekend that if we don't get this house we've made
> an offer on we're going to buy a 116 300SD and a teardrop trailer and tour the
> US... I love that woman.

Kewl plan. Better hang onto that girl, LoL.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[Curt Raymond]

My 190D 2.2l 5spd is MUCH faster than my 240D 4spd. There are hills where I 
live that the 240D simply would not hold speed on that the 190D can actually 
accelerate up. Once I got the 190D mostly sorted out my wife would not drive 
the 240D...
  I don't want the current owners of my old 240D to try my 190D because they 
seem so happy with the 240D now...
   
  My wife and I decided this weekend that if we don't get this house we've made 
an offer on we're going to buy a 116 300SD and a teardrop trailer and tour the 
US... I love that woman.
   
  -Curt
  '85 190D "Dory" 239kmi
   
  Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:08:48 -0400
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On May 21, 2006, at 6:44 PM, Desert Rat wrote:

>
> The early 190D is economical but not much faster than a W123 240D.

 Even a 2.2L Auto 190D will blow the doors off a 240D of any vintage.  
I've experienced the neck snapping acceleration of both. Dead bugs  
rarely accumulate on the rear windows of 201s.

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Re: [MBZ] '92 300TE: Any concerns specific to the engine on these?

[Dave Wakin]

We don't take it on trips - my wife uses it as a beater mobile to drive our 
4 kids to soccer, groceries, etc. 4 kids beat on it nicely, and with the 
exception of a rear door speaker cover, it has taken all their abuse.


Dave W



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What sort of mileage do you see on extended highway trips?

On 5/22/06, Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nice car though and decent gas mileage (we get around 20)

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
'84 300D (212k)
Gashuffer:
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[MBZ] Aux Cooling Fan - Short

[dieselbenz24]

Hello All,
 
I noticed that my auxillary cooling fan was not plugged in the other day and 
wanted to get that fixed.  The fan has never been plugged in and the AC has not 
worked since I got the car.  After I plugged it in as soon as I started the car 
it ran for about 15 seconds and then stopped.  I noticed that it had blown a 
fuse.  Other point of interest is that on the repair information from previous 
owner it says "conversion to r134a, wire aux fan to run constantly".  The car 
has always run under 100 degrees so it has not overheated and does not run hot. 
 Is that normal for the fan to run as soon as you start the car ?
 
I know that I need to check the schematic to see that the wiring has not been 
altered and I imagine I should check to see that the aux fan switch is working. 
 
 
Any other insight would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 96kmi

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[MBZ] test #2

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Re: [MBZ] '92 300TE: Any concerns specific to the engine on these?

[Zeitgeist]

What sort of mileage do you see on extended highway trips?

On 5/22/06, Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nice car though and decent gas mileage (we get around 20)

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
'84 300D (212k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] ACC Issues with 300SD

[Jim Cathey]

With the ignition switched on (Accessory setting) the
fan will work perfectly normal from highest to lowest
speed.  With the car on the fan stops working.
Pushing the defrost button or any number of buttons
and changing fuses results makes no difference.


Disconnect (and plug) the vacuum hose to the IP shutoff
pod.  Then turn off the car (which will stay running)
and turn it back on.  Is the ACC fine then?  That would
indicate that the ignition switch is going bad,  if the
trip to the Start position is what makes the ACC crap
out.  One can also try teasing the key to see if you
can make the ACC symptoms change, but I like the
vacuum hose trick, which gives you full mobility
to play with on the switch.

The alternative diagnosis is that the motion and
vibration of the moving vehicle is what's taking out
the ACC, which might point towards bad solder joints
inside the pushbutton array, of which I have had
plenty.  That repair, at least, is cheap.  If you
are handy and can solder.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] '92 300TE: Any concerns specific to the engine on these?

[Dave Wakin]

I have a 1990 with 138K on it. Runs good but the little things are starting 
to go on it (muffler, idler arm, etc).


Nice car though and decent gas mileage (we get around 20)

Dave W


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land yacht!

On 5/22/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


SDL's have ABS.  And aren't flaming death-traps.  (Gasser.)


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
'84 300D (212k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

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Re: [MBZ] ACC Issues with 300SD

[Sunil Hari]

after 25 years or so, the ACC units become rather temperamental (i'm talking
about the horizontal pushbutton units by VDO, not the vertical button
Chrysler units).  If you remove it from the dash and resolder every joint,
they usually work great.  I've rebuilt 3 like this with great success.

On 5/22/06, Fred Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Recently I've been having issues with the ACC on my 81
300SD.

With the ignition switched on (Accessory setting) the
fan will work perfectly normal from highest to lowest
speed.  With the car on the fan stops working.
Pushing the defrost button or any number of buttons
and changing fuses results makes no difference.  I am
at my wits end.  What else should I be looking at?
Should I be poking around the fan instead of the ACC
brains?

BTW the monovalve is working as I notice it will cycle
between heat and non heated air but with no force
coming out of the vents.  Also I can hear the vacuum
pods working as I push the ACC buttons

Thanks,
Fred Johnson
Chicago
1977 240D
1983 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] '92 300TE: Any concerns specific to the engine on these?

[Zeitgeist]

land yacht!

On 5/22/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


SDL's have ABS.  And aren't flaming death-traps.  (Gasser.)


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
'84 300D (212k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

[MBZ] car won't start - bushings/neutral safety switch - TIP!

[Christopher McCann]

On two separate occassions lately, the 300TD did not start. I jumped it  both 
times and voila, it starts. Well, last time, I let it sit for a  week before 
digging into it and started it before I got to work (just  to see) and it 
started just fine! Hmm...
  
  Problem - shifter bushings are loose and the neutral safety switch was  not 
doing it's thing. So when it didn't start this morning, I moved the  shifter 
lever around and it started just fine. Soultion: new shifter  bushings, 
obviously (they are loose)
  
  Anyway, useful hint in case your car doesn't start someday.
  
  Chris
  

Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1987 300TD, 245K km, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 343K km, "Wulf"
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger"

"Mercedes Dieselauto - Leistung wird mit dem Kilometerzähler gemessen."
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Recently I've been having issues with the ACC on my 81
300SD.  

With the ignition switched on (Accessory setting) the
fan will work perfectly normal from highest to lowest
speed.  With the car on the fan stops working. 
Pushing the defrost button or any number of buttons
and changing fuses results makes no difference.  I am
at my wits end.  What else should I be looking at? 
Should I be poking around the fan instead of the ACC
brains?

BTW the monovalve is working as I notice it will cycle
between heat and non heated air but with no force
coming out of the vents.  Also I can hear the vacuum
pods working as I push the ACC buttons

Thanks,
Fred Johnson
Chicago
1977 240D
1983 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] What new maladies befall Brunnhilde?

[Rich Thomas]

I'm presuming they also had some large "ample" women singers to sing 
those tunes, perhaps former East German female weightlifters or swimmers 
turned crooners?  Well, maybe not, they are not "ample" in the right places.


--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:


Heard Ben Heppner singing an aria from Meistersinger on WQXR Sat. night
during a weekend trip to NYC.  Several stars were performing operatic hits
at a Met gala/retirement party for outgoing GM Joe Volpe held at Lincoln
Center.  Anyway, Heppner has one truly fine Wagnerian tenor voice.

MB Content:  We drove her 1985 300CD and it performed magnificently in the
city and on the highway, soaking up the bumps on city streets and cruising
effortlessly at 75 all the way back to D.C.  Mileage jumped from the usual
in-town 19 mpg to over 25 on the road.


On 5/22/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Yes, Brunnhilde is a Wagoner.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

   


Sounds like you have a taste for Wagnerian opera.

On 5/19/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 


So a week or two ago, someone had window problems.  Brunnhilde developed
window problems a couple days ago.  Cleaned the switch well, that fixed
it.  Also opened the door and took out the assembly as even with 12V to
the motor it wasn't moving well.  Cleaned and lubed everything, which
helped a lot.  Also checked and adjusted the vac latch thingie, gotta
track down the leak but the door latch works better now.

What new maladies will Brunnhilde catch from this list?

Bad Brunnhilde!  No more email for you!

--R


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Re: [MBZ] '92 300TE: Any concerns specific to the engine on these?

[Jim Cathey]

I've decided it's time my wife had the same access to bacon-saving
technology as me.  So, I'm considering a '92 300TE w/125k as a


SDL's have ABS.  And aren't flaming death-traps.  (Gasser.)

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Club 123D spring "rally" recsheduled - 6-10-06

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

June 24th is the date for the okieQ, details and times will be posted as 
we get a little closer.


V Layton wrote:


Hi Folks!  and Tom,

There were too many schedule conflicts for yesterday, so all those 
signed up have agreed on a new nate, June 10th (saturday)   I hope this 
frees you up Tom, and of course anyone with a W123 can join the festivites.


What is the officail date and plan for this year's Okie-Q?  What are you 
all doing the 30th of July?  (Sunday)


Cheers,



Vince
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Next time, Vince.  Sounds like a good time.

Tom,
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD ACC Challenge

[andrew strasfogel]

Could also be the HOUSING for the monovalve!  I had an ineffective new
monovalve insert on my 1983 300TD.  It was only when I changed the housing
for one from a junker 300D that everything worked as it should.

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[MBZ] '92 300TE: Any concerns specific to the engine on these?

[Zeitgeist]

Hey Volks, after two recent run-ins with other motorists/bicyclists
which required timely application of my TD's ABS to save my bacon,
I've decided it's time my wife had the same access to bacon-saving
technology as me.  So, I'm considering a '92 300TE w/125k as a
suitable, if somewhat temporary replacement until I locate a '90-'93
300D.  I'm fairly familiar with the T-model chassis, but I don't know
too much about the gasser engines (yeeech!) in these things.  I
believe they run KE-Jetronic injection and are prone to valve stem
issues.  What else should I be aware of with these (yeeech!) gasser
engines?  Ignition system issues?  Fuel mileage?

TIA
--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
'84 300D (212k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no comment.

Zoltan Finks wrote:


The condition of this example aside, I must say that that is an awesome
automobile - twin turbo 6.9 litre V8? Anybody know the performance specs on
this thing? Pretty cool. Looks like leather interior?

Brian



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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$...

[Joe Knight]

I suppose I'm nowhere near the first to notice that to continue to use
WXP Update it's now required that users allow the installation of what
is essentially spyware to confirm you've got a 'genuine' licensed copy
installed.  What'l they think of next?

joe

Re: [MBZ] What new maladies befall Brunnhilde?

[andrew strasfogel]

Heard Ben Heppner singing an aria from Meistersinger on WQXR Sat. night
during a weekend trip to NYC.  Several stars were performing operatic hits
at a Met gala/retirement party for outgoing GM Joe Volpe held at Lincoln
Center.  Anyway, Heppner has one truly fine Wagnerian tenor voice.

MB Content:  We drove her 1985 300CD and it performed magnificently in the
city and on the highway, soaking up the bumps on city streets and cruising
effortlessly at 75 all the way back to D.C.  Mileage jumped from the usual
in-town 19 mpg to over 25 on the road.


On 5/22/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yes, Brunnhilde is a Wagoner.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

>Sounds like you have a taste for Wagnerian opera.
>
>On 5/19/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>So a week or two ago, someone had window problems.  Brunnhilde developed
>>window problems a couple days ago.  Cleaned the switch well, that fixed
>>it.  Also opened the door and took out the assembly as even with 12V to
>>the motor it wasn't moving well.  Cleaned and lubed everything, which
>>helped a lot.  Also checked and adjusted the vac latch thingie, gotta
>>track down the leak but the door latch works better now.
>>
>>What new maladies will Brunnhilde catch from this list?
>>
>>Bad Brunnhilde!  No more email for you!
>>
>>--R
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I was interested when it was at $500, but now people are going ape crazy over it

[andrew strasfogel]

http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/makepaint2.cgi

Either deep green or nickel green, accoreding to this chart for 1975 M-B
models,


On 5/22/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What a great looking auto. What is the name of that color? I might like to
paint mine that color someday.

Is the mileage believable?

Brian


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>
> no
>
> Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote:
>
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the same dealer we busted
about
> > a year ago for having his family members schill bidding?
> >
> > Oh look at this one, there is a  zero feedback bidder running the
price
> > up. H.
> >
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> 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
> 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] How long before we end up paying ridiculous $$$ for using computers at home?

[Rich Thomas]

That happened to me about 10 yr ago, still paying -- networks, DSL, 
everybody has a machine, OSs, software, cables, new gadgets and cards 
and drives, etc etc.  Worse than crack.


--R

John Berryman wrote:

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microsoft_pre_paid_pc_use


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I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] What new maladies befall Brunnhilde?

[Rich Thomas]

Yes, Brunnhilde is a Wagoner.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:


Sounds like you have a taste for Wagnerian opera.

On 5/19/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


So a week or two ago, someone had window problems.  Brunnhilde developed
window problems a couple days ago.  Cleaned the switch well, that fixed
it.  Also opened the door and took out the assembly as even with 12V to
the motor it wasn't moving well.  Cleaned and lubed everything, which
helped a lot.  Also checked and adjusted the vac latch thingie, gotta
track down the leak but the door latch works better now.

What new maladies will Brunnhilde catch from this list?

Bad Brunnhilde!  No more email for you!

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Vatos!

[andrew strasfogel]

Has anyone schecked the color charts?  Perhaps that is a rare but original
MB shade of grun...



On 5/21/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bob Rentfro wrote:
>
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/162838988.html

Not a bad looking car, except for the wheels.

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Re: [MBZ] Long Term Auto Storage was Re: '68 230S in local paper

[andrew strasfogel]

My goal is to drive my 280SE 3.5 weekly, but this sometimes becomes biweekly
or monthly if the weather happens to be bad or if I'm out of town.  It seems
to perform well even after being idle for a month, though.

On 5/21/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I think "keeping cars driveable" and "keeping cars in storage" are two
different things. The only way to keep a car driveable, I believe, is to
drive it.
My neighbor growing up had eight cars. He had one of those eight "in
storage" ( he drove it to a Cord/Auborn show in Indiana once a year...I
don't know what he did to make it "be is storage" however). The other
seven
he drove. You could tell what day it was by which car he was driving.

Bob Rentfro


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Subject: [MBZ] Long Term Auto Storage was Re: '68 230S in local paper


>> Because garages kill cars.
>>
>
> What are the tricks to keeping cars drivable that will be stored for
long
> periods? If you look at many of our signature lines, most of us have
more
> cars than drivers, and that is just listing the MB's. Since my brother
> passed away and I inherited his vehicles. I now own eight cars and three
> motorcycles. Many are projects, but I still have several daily drivers.
So
> how 'bout it? How does one properly store an automobile?
>
> Rick Knoble
> '85 300 CD
> '87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] What new maladies befall Brunnhilde?

[andrew strasfogel]

Sounds like you have a taste for Wagnerian opera.

On 5/19/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So a week or two ago, someone had window problems.  Brunnhilde developed
window problems a couple days ago.  Cleaned the switch well, that fixed
it.  Also opened the door and took out the assembly as even with 12V to
the motor it wasn't moving well.  Cleaned and lubed everything, which
helped a lot.  Also checked and adjusted the vac latch thingie, gotta
track down the leak but the door latch works better now.

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[John Berryman]

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Re: [MBZ] Noise source

[Jim Cathey]

Interesting, so a mount can actually produce a hum? Must be a 
resonating

vibration


Even a good differential (for example) has some noise associated
with it, and if the rubber mount is collapsed so there is metal-on-metal
contact that small noise will be coupled into the car's body.  The
collapsed diff mount on the 240D, when replaced, _reduced_ the noise
but did not eliminate it.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Noisy Diff

[Jim Cathey]

And something that comes on
ONLY at a narrow speed range is not likely a diff, I don't think.


I don't either.  Ours seemed loudest at low speeds, because the
ambient noise was lower.  Reminded me of a straight-cut gearbox
from an old school bus.  (Of which I had some experience as a
kid.)


It surely can be differential related and if it is, it's more likely
than not a bad pinion bearing, resulting in varying gear lash.


I'm semi-convinced that the pinion bearing preload, which was
definitely too loose, could have been tightened to restore my
particular differential to service.  But we'll probably never
know for sure.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 300CD ACC Challenge

[luther]

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Re: [MBZ] Noisy Diff

[John Berryman]

On May 22, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Dan Weeks wrote:


 And something that comes on
ONLY at a narrow speed range is not likely a diff, I don't think.



	It surely can be differential related and if it is, it's more likely  
than not a bad pinion bearing, resulting in varying gear lash.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] Club 123D spring "rally" recsheduled - 6-10-06

[V Layton]

Hi Folks!  and Tom,

There were too many schedule conflicts for yesterday, so all those signed up 
have agreed on a new nate, June 10th (saturday)   I hope this frees you up 
Tom, and of course anyone with a W123 can join the festivites.


What is the officail date and plan for this year's Okie-Q?  What are you all 
doing the 30th of July?  (Sunday)


Cheers,



Vince
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Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo

[Tan Qu]

Speaking of the delivery valve resealng, my '91 300D
2.5 is leaking fuel around #3 and #4 delivery valves.
How much involved is to reseal these things? And what
parts and tools I would need? Thanks.


Tan

--- Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm pretty sure the MB lift pump is a piston type
> with no diaphram. I
> vote you do the delivery valve reseal thing, change
> the oil, take two
> asprin and call Marshall in the morning.
> 
> Bob DuPuy
> Parrish, FL
> 
> On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause
> starting problems but
> > not missing problems?  This one is missing on #1,
> i would think if the
> > pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case.  If the IP
> has a problem however
> > internally and is leaking, well I could see that
> maybe.
> >
> > Tom Hargrave wrote:
> >
> > > Kaleb,
> > >
> > > The only source for serious dilution is the IP.
> You may have an issue with
> > > the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump
> that's bolted to the side of
> > > the IP has a cracked diaphragm.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom Hargrave
> > > 256-656-1924
> > > www.kegkits.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM
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> > > Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
> > >
> > > I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it
> really seems MUCH thinner
> > > than it should be and it seems to have a diesel
> smell, but hard to tell.  I
> > > started it up again stone cold and it fires
> right up, and runs MUCH smoother
> > > than when warmed up.  Idles ok with just a
> little bit of a miss.  The oil
> > > pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when
> stone cold, probably because
> > > the oil appears to be diluted with diesel.  I
> will probably change it and
> > > see what  happens.
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Re: [MBZ] Trunk stank

[John Berryman]

On May 22, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

Is having everything that takes a ride in the trunk come out  
smelling like

fuel just something that we dieselers have to put up with, or is there
something amiss with my fuel system?

Brian



	Something is leaking. I never smell diesel fuel  back there, unless  
there's a problem.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] O.T.- 2 of Everything on my Desktop

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

My daughter just got home. She showed me her laptop and she now has  
two of every icon on her desktop and she has big red screen with a  
spyware warning as her background. I cannot change the background  
since it somehow has a lock on the "change apperance" screen.
I ran two different spyware programs (deleted a buttload of stuff)  
and did a virus scan (deleted 0.5 of a buttload).
It is operating more quickly, but the red backround screen will not  
go away, I still can't control the "change apperance" feature, and  
there are still 2 of each icon on her desktop.


What the heck is going on?



I love my Mac, I love my Mac, I love my Mac.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Need eye level brake light for 201 '86 190D

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:


Johnny B...

I could try to get by "Tri-Star Parts" here in Phoenix this week if
you want me to look for one of those!  They have a bunch of  
201's...


Lemme' know.

Chuck



Chuck,
	If you're going there any way, sure. Don't make a special trip for  
me, just yet. That's a very kind offer.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Noisy Diff

[Dan Weeks]

In my 82 300SD, it's mainly at low speeds, and is loudest at around 
45 mph under light throttle. Goes away when throttle lifted. Audible 
at highway speeds, but less so than at 45. Also, there's evident gear 
lash. Mine is a confirmed worn R&P. I would not think those come on 
suddenly--mine's been making the noise ever since I bought it 25k 
miles ago, tho it may be getting worse. And something that comes on 
ONLY at a narrow speed range is not likely a diff, I don't think. 
Sounds like a sympathetic vibration. Try running at 67 in 3rd, and at 
the same rpm you get at 67 in 4th in other gears and see if the noise 
is there. If it's rpm related, not road speed related, it's not a 
diff.




Those of you who have had a differential hum: Does it occur mainly at a
certain speed? Probably not, I know, but just making sure that what I heard
this weekend on the highway isn't a differential in disrepair. I know that
often if it is the diff., it will occur upon letting off the throttle? Our
noise occurred most often as I hit about 67 mph.

--
Dan Weeks
82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k
82 Mercedes 300SD, 280k

Re: [MBZ] Need eye level brake light for 201 '86 190D

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 8:04 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:


Johnny B,

Are you talking about the "on hat rack/inside rear window" third
brake light on the 190???


Yes.


I think, but I've been wrong before, that
the light from any 201 or 124 would fit...


You're most likely correct in that assumption.


Seems like the window angle is similar.

I'm looking for the third brake light for a 16V that is incorporated
into the wing..   Euro 16V's did not have that.  And therefore,
got 1/3 more downforce from the wing..  Of course, that involves
going quite fast!!!


	Mitch has a 16v with the light in the spoiler but I think its going  
on his super-diesel project 190D Turbo. I'm hoping to buy the  
original one from that car from him.


Take care,
Chuck


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Heat stuck on 83' 300D

[Levi Smith]

Ha!  Got this one figured out yesterday after the noticing my reverse lights
weren't working, and knowing the horn seemed to periodically not work that
well.  Check the fuses, and sure enough, there's one blown that handles the
horn, reverse lights AND ACC heater something...  Pop a new fuse in TADA!
cold air again!
Glad I didn't start hacking into the monovalve.  (:

Levi

On 5/16/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jim Cathey wrote:
>> It's trying as hard as it can not to put out cold air, and waits
>> till the engine temp picks up and then blows in hot air...
>
> Sounds like it thinks it's supposed to heat, but on MIN it's supposed
> to not heat at all.  It could be that the pushbutton array has bad
> solder joints and/or switch contacts inside, it's certainly something
> that happens on these.  Easy enough to repair, usually, but requires
> decent disassembly and soldering skills.  When that's what is broken,
> the ACC system basically goes insane.

The cabin temp sensor (that is activated by air drawn past it along the
hose to the cabin temp sensor in the dash by venturi effect from the
blower) must have cabin air drawn past it by the blower to operate the
temperature controller that turns the monovalve and compressor on and
off. If air isn't drawn past the sensor, it measures the temperature of
the stagnant air being warmed/cooled by the dashboard assembly as cabin
temp and acts accordingly. That results in erratic temperature control
Of course, that should not be of any concern if the temp controller is
set at MAX or MIN.

Not sure what the spectrum of symptoms are when the temp control module
(not the push button controller) fails.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

I bet some moron or prankster just stuck the 350SD badge on the  
trunk at
some point and it's actually a plain-jane 617, modulo the  
headlights.  A
post-accident swap of a trunklid from a 350SD would be even more  
likely
except that if the low-res pictures are to be believed the  
"TURBODIESEL"
badge is there on the right side of the lid, which would read just  
"TURBO"

on the 350.

Alex Chamberlain



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Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 6:44 PM, Desert Rat wrote:



The early 190D is economical but not much faster than a W123 240D.


	Even a 2.2L Auto 190D will blow the doors off a 240D of any vintage.  
I've experienced the neck snapping acceleration of both. Dead bugs  
rarely accumulate on the rear windows of 201s.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Need eye level brake light for 201 '86 190D

[John Berryman]

On May 21, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:


"I have the technology" ?


I knew someone would get a kick out of that.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] Saddam's 560 SEL

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Here's an interesting story, whether true or not.
http://www.autoblog.com/category/mercedes-benz/

Dwight


Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co.


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Re: [MBZ] Noise source

[Zoltan Finks]

Interesting, so a mount can actually produce a hum? Must be a resonating
vibration (kind of what my muffler hanger was doing - it hits just the right
vibration frequency and it makes a hum of sorts. Man, that exhaust system
shakes around at idle.

Brian
83 240D


On 5/22/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My 300CD has a hum that become noticeable at about 45 MPH.  I believe it's
due to a bad diff mount (thanks Jim Cathey for your explanation of your
diagnosis on your 240D).  It doesn't change with
acceleration/deceleration,
and turning one way or the other doesn't affect it either.  It's down the
list of repairs, but it's definitely something that needs to be done
eventually.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela


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Re: [MBZ] Trunk stank

[Zoltan Finks]

Not carrying any such in trunk. Hmm. Thanks for tips. Actually I kinda like
the smell, but the wife was dismayed by it as we packed for camping this
weekend. I guess I really don't want the sleeping bag and clothes to smell
like diesel either.

Brian
83 240D


On 5/22/06, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Are you carrying any diesel additive or Diesel Purge container(s) in the
trunk, by any chance?

The caps on those bottles sometimes leak a little bit even when new, and
the
smell takes forever to disperse once it's into the trunk padding.

Mac

on 5/22/06 12:00 AM, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is having everything that takes a ride in the trunk come out smelling
like
> fuel just something that we dieselers have to put up with, or is there
> something amiss with my fuel system?
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now

[Zoltan Finks]

The condition of this example aside, I must say that that is an awesome
automobile - twin turbo 6.9 litre V8? Anybody know the performance specs on
this thing? Pretty cool. Looks like leather interior?

Brian


On 5/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


H!  LOL!  when I saw this description :<>>

Dear Gentlemen,
There is *NO* such thing as a *Small* under dash fire!  Geez!  The damage
continues unseen in all kinds of places!

They'ree still waiting for the right (meaning one with deep pockets) ;-)
to
come along and give the buckets of money for a
piece 'o crap.  -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: [MBZ] oh sweet mother of god, I have seen it all now


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>  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] The wave

[ernest breakfield]

what i paid for what i'm riding has *zero* bearing on what my skin is
worth to me; i'll bleed just as much falling off of a $600 motorcycle as
off of a $16K motorcycle.

when people ask me what it costs to get into motorcycling, i find that
most are surprised when my first response is directed towards what it
costs to get get properly dressed to ride the most safely... and i find
it odd that most seem to think they can somehow justify putting off that
cost until after they've been riding longer; as if riding less protected
with the least experience is somehow going to be OK...?!

as for helmets; i hate them, but i've buried too many friends that have
come off of non-motorized wheels to believe that they're not beneficial.
i've even seen studies that imply that the forces suffered by a head
falling to the ground from off of a bicycle at most any speed are equal
to those encountered by dropping the head from the height of the average
male (about 6').

on the topic of the subject line; i don't generally initiate a wave in
urban areas unless we're sharing something more than just being there at
the same time (like maybe severe weather); but i find the farther i get
from civilization, the more likely this changes.


cheers!
e


Levi Smith wrote:
> 
> Well, if it's warm out, I'm quite possibly in shorts and a t-shirt.
> I didn't spend all the money for "real" protection with some sort of armour
> in it, so in my mind, if the bike goes down, I'm doubting that pair of jeans
> are going to make a whole heck of a lot of difference.  Maybe I'll have an
> extra 10th of a second before the jeans rip and wear off against the
> pavement...
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'll fully agree that real protection is the way to go.
> But I don't want to spend more than my bike cost (about $600) for something
> that would really protect me, and the time and pain to put it all on and off
> for a 15 minute ride, or just the trip to work...
> 
> Heck, I'm riding my electric bicycle about 6+ miles each way to and from
> work, and on the one steep hill where I'm holding both brakes to keep it
> around 30mph max, I'm thinking how a helmet probably would be a good idea,
> since falling off a bicycle at 30mph is probably going to hurt about as much
> as falling off a motorcycle at that speed...
> 
> Levi
> 
> On 5/18/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > These sorts of stories are why I ultimately stopped riding and sold my
> > Goldwing. The older I get the slower I heal
> > and (hopefully) the smarter I get. I cut myself with with a biscuit
> > jointer in my workshop and it really only bit
> > one finger but it is a reminder that does not go away. It was one of the
> > things that made me realize I would not be
> > happy if I got off the bike the hard way and injured arms or legs etc. I
> > always wore a helmet and a leather jacket
> > and jeans and boots and gloves but I also knew that might not be enough.
> > (I commonly see people on bikes in shorts
> > and a T shirt.) My old 300D serves the purpose that the bike did and I
> > think I enjoy it every  bit as much
> > (especially if it rains).
> >
> > Randy B
> >
> > -Original Message-

[snip]

Re: [MBZ] 300CD ACC Challenge

[Sunil Hari]

I will gladly buy the coupe off of you for the princely sum of $1000.

On 5/22/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Bonus points are based on simplicity and effectiveness.

Give her your coupe, until such time as it can be chased down and fixed.

Once it's under your care, wire a test lamp to the monovalve to see
if it's properly being operated by the ACC system.  Has the PB array
been resoldered lately?  Is the _other_ end of the foam hose properly
connected so that there is actually airflow through the sensor?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The wave

[ernest breakfield]

do you find it necessary to bleed before you believe that you *will*
bleed?

personally, i ride ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time) because i grew up
riding dirt bikes that way and saw how much good it does when (not *if*)
you come off... (and i've seen firsthand that it doesn't always have to
involve much speed to incur an injury.)
having the gear on has helped make the difference between gaining scars
and gaining just experience.


cheers!
e


John Berryman wrote:
> 
> On May 17, 2006, at 10:05 AM, lee wrote:
> 
> > There are only two kinds of
> > biker, those who have parted ways with their bike at speed, and
> > those who
> > eventually will if they keep riding. It is an enlightening
> > experience if you
> > survive it.
> >
> > Lee
> 
> And you have the road rash scars to back-up this statement?
> 
> Johnny B.
> I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] 300CD ACC Challenge

[Jim Cathey]

Bonus points are based on simplicity and effectiveness.


Give her your coupe, until such time as it can be chased down and fixed.

Once it's under your care, wire a test lamp to the monovalve to see
if it's properly being operated by the ACC system.  Has the PB array
been resoldered lately?  Is the _other_ end of the foam hose properly
connected so that there is actually airflow through the sensor?

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Noise source

[kevin kraly]

My 300CD has a hum that become noticeable at about 45 MPH.  I believe it's 
due to a bad diff mount (thanks Jim Cathey for your explanation of your 
diagnosis on your 240D).  It doesn't change with acceleration/deceleration, 
and turning one way or the other doesn't affect it either.  It's down the 
list of repairs, but it's definitely something that needs to be done 
eventually.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 

Re: [MBZ] Trunk stank

[Steve MacSween]

Are you carrying any diesel additive or Diesel Purge container(s) in the
trunk, by any chance?

The caps on those bottles sometimes leak a little bit even when new, and the
smell takes forever to disperse once it's into the trunk padding.

Mac

on 5/22/06 12:00 AM, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is having everything that takes a ride in the trunk come out smelling like
> fuel just something that we dieselers have to put up with, or is there
> something amiss with my fuel system?
> 
> Brian
> 83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Trunk stank

[kevin kraly]

Something's definitely up.  The problem I've been having with all but one of 
my previously owned MB's and my current one as well is that everything in 
the trunk is wet or smells musty from said moisture.  Have you checked 
around the tank/lines for fuel?  Is the overflow line routed in such a way 
that it's squirting a mist of diesel on the contents of your trunk every 
time you fill up?  Check the filler tube and the filler neck seal because 
it's probably dried out and bearly hanging in there and fuel is getting in 
that way.


Good luck!

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 

Re: [MBZ] Trunk stank

[Zoltan Finks]

Is this because the fuel seeps down outside of the filler tube or something?
For that matter, where does that little drain hole in the fuel filler area
lead? (besides to the ground)

Brian
83 240D


On 5/21/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My wife recently failed to properly tighten the fuel cap, and it
spilled a fair amount of B99 into the trunk locker.  You may just need
a new cap.


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
'84 300D (212k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

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