Re: [MBZ] MBZ history?
What are you wanting to know? How the lists came to be? Here is the short version. There was the dave lefarber list which still exists but has no traffic. People got tired of Cookies over there flaming everyone etc so that is when the Ritter/Easley list started. At the same time there was the official MBCA list which Kathy ran. The ritter list turned into a dictatorship basically, as it still is. Stu and easley started kicking people off for no good reason really. When he kicked Richard Sexton, Gary Hurst, and myself off, that is when mbz.org was formed. People started flocking there to get away from the ritter/easly list. It was a very sucessful list. Rusty entered the picture later on. That went on for a couple of years then I started admin some of the lists, then almost all of the lists there. A couple of years ago, after several crashes, they crashed and burned to never return it seemed. I started striplin.net and moved all the subscriber lists over there as a temp measure to keep the lists going till Richard could get mbz.org fixed again. Well that never happened so I then created okiebenz.com to be the permenant home of the lists. There you have the short version. Werner Fehlauer wrote: I apologize if this has been cussed and discussed, but I've lost the bubble as to the sequence of events (and perhaps a bit of reasoning) behind how these nets have transfigured themselves. I am aware and dismayed about how the original technical (and leader's list) net that had more or less the blessings of MBCA were summarily closed in the Saturday Night Massacre, and how Kathy Kennel (RIP) did her best to keep some civility in the succeeding mbz nets. But it appears that there are now a plethora of nets, that IMO have reduced the content we used to have - where a lot of technical issues arose daily, and usually 6 or more responses appeared almost within hours. So what historical events have I missed?? TIA Werner ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
Finally got the RustyQ 2006 pictures up at okiebenz.com that Regina took at the RustyQ. You can access them from the main page by clicking on the rustyQ button, or click here http://www.okiebenz.com/rustyq/rustyQ06/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] My 300SDL is being adopted
I would have bought it, but you are too far away. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Having found no interest while selling my Benz, I have elected to keep it in the family and allow my Grandson to adopt it. He is 18 and not a gear head. He'll drive and maintain it as long as I assi$t, and instruct. A good thing, I will get to use it on long road trips, weddings and funerals. For all of the above I will continue to lurk here. Happy New Years.. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, On it's way 1987 300SDL 272KMI Going to Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] My 300SDL is being adopted
I would have been interested too, but trying to find a local car. I'm sure your Grandson will love it, and you for gifting it to him. Zeb On 31/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have bought it, but you are too far away. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Having found no interest while selling my Benz, I have elected to keep it in the family and allow my Grandson to adopt it. He is 18 and not a gear head. He'll drive and maintain it as long as I assi$t, and instruct. A good thing, I will get to use it on long road trips, weddings and funerals. For all of the above I will continue to lurk here. Happy New Years.. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, On it's way 1987 300SDL 272KMI Going to Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1959 220S
All, I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list member than someone else. It's in North Alabama. Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions. And no, Kaleb, I will not take $500.00 for the car. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
Absolutely amazing photos! Tell us - is that a 450 V8 in the 240D? Now that we have the 91 300D and have tasted what a marvel the diesel has become (to that time) I keep looking at my 78 240D thinking it might be a good candidate for a transplant of a small block V6 or V8 from a GM or Ford donor - at ~65hp with auto and AC it's not really great for driving in the summer - especially when confronted with numerous stop lights and heat needing AC. That's why the 240D in your photos really caught my eye. No body get excited - just mulling things over in my head. Primary thing holding me back is the reality of having my 67 MGB partially assembled - and making slow progress. Attempting a transplant such as this would be a huge effort for me. BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123? With all the 240Ds and 300Ds out there surely someone has developed a kit to get them back on the road - when someone has a dead engine and nice body -- TIA - Happy New Year - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] Amazing MBs At least amazing to me! Hope these get through. MikeN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123? Much less trouble, and of far more interest to most of us, is putting a 300D turbo engine in instead. Lots of rust/wrecks out there still. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks
That is because you are a mechanical God who can make a car out of spare microwave sheet metal. I am simple and can not figure out how to make that quartz fit the hole in Gump. It is a wonder I even procreated. Not really. The clock, of course, wouldn't be giving you any help! Seriously, it was a zero-brainer. Something must be fishy about the Gumpster if it doesn't just drop right in. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
Hi Larry, Why not really go to town and stuff a 6.9 in there and find some period correct AMG stuff for the car. I have an old AMG (Hammer era) catalog and some of the kits for the W123 were pretty cool. They even had one for the wagon. Hee hee, a 6.9 in a W123...that would leave a few guys at the stop lights talking to themselves! :-) Ever see the article about 15 years ago with the guy who stuffed all the running gear from a 928 into a Rabbit. ha ha ha. Probably too much time on his hands, but it must have been fun trying to keep that car from turning itself inside out when playing with the loud pedal. :-) Zeb On 31/12/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely amazing photos! Tell us - is that a 450 V8 in the 240D? Now that we have the 91 300D and have tasted what a marvel the diesel has become (to that time) I keep looking at my 78 240D thinking it might be a good candidate for a transplant of a small block V6 or V8 from a GM or Ford donor - at ~65hp with auto and AC it's not really great for driving in the summer - especially when confronted with numerous stop lights and heat needing AC. That's why the 240D in your photos really caught my eye. No body get excited - just mulling things over in my head. Primary thing holding me back is the reality of having my 67 MGB partially assembled - and making slow progress. Attempting a transplant such as this would be a huge effort for me. BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123? With all the 240Ds and 300Ds out there surely someone has developed a kit to get them back on the road - when someone has a dead engine and nice body -- TIA - Happy New Year - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] Amazing MBs At least amazing to me! Hope these get through. MikeN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ history?
Thanks, Kaleb - I wasn't aware of just what the timing (or the reason) for the Ritter/Easley list origination, or just how Richard Sexton got involved. I was fully involved with the old MBCA lists, and was ashamed of how a few empire builders treated Kathy, who gave her all for the good of mthe club and the lists she was mother to. And when a few insiders (who didn't take dissent well or at all) ran off Todd Knutson and Jay Obrien, plus several other good guys, I was happy that someone picked up the challenge to keep a few nets going. But you are correct, when things crashed, it got kind of lonesome, and I really appreciate you taking the challenge. What I didn't know was how things had transitioned from the days of Richard Sexton to now, mainly because I had to drop off for a couple of long periods due to medical and other issues. I do have a concern though that with too many sub nets, that we may be losing out on the social and technical aspects of a larger group. From what I can see, there may be lots of lurkers, but there is no way to know which net to send out a question for a particular interest. That may just be a lack of my own understanding, or perhaps a realization that there are more nets that need to be monitored (and to be careful of using in response?). Anyway, Happy New Year, and keep smiling. Enjoy the winter weather, which you folks in the plains have been nice enough to keep away from the East Coast! Werner - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ history? What are you wanting to know? How the lists came to be? Here is the short version. There was the dave lefarber list which still exists but has no traffic. People got tired of Cookies over there flaming everyone etc so that is when the Ritter/Easley list started. At the same time there was the official MBCA list which Kathy ran. The ritter list turned into a dictatorship basically, as it still is. Stu and easley started kicking people off for no good reason really. When he kicked Richard Sexton, Gary Hurst, and myself off, that is when mbz.org was formed. People started flocking there to get away from the ritter/easly list. It was a very sucessful list. Rusty entered the picture later on. That went on for a couple of years then I started admin some of the lists, then almost all of the lists there. A couple of years ago, after several crashes, they crashed and burned to never return it seemed. I started striplin.net and moved all the subscriber lists over there as a temp measure to keep the lists going till Richard could get mbz.org fixed again. Well that never happened so I then created okiebenz.com to be the permenant home of the lists. There you have the short version. Werner Fehlauer wrote: I apologize if this has been cussed and discussed, but I've lost the bubble as to the sequence of events (and perhaps a bit of reasoning) behind how these nets have transfigured themselves. I am aware and dismayed about how the original technical (and leader's list) net that had more or less the blessings of MBCA were summarily closed in the Saturday Night Massacre, and how Kathy Kennel (RIP) did her best to keep some civility in the succeeding mbz nets. But it appears that there are now a plethora of nets, that IMO have reduced the content we used to have - where a lot of technical issues arose daily, and usually 6 or more responses appeared almost within hours. So what historical events have I missed?? TIA Werner Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
Larry - if you really wanted a challenge, then locate the engine and tranny (a ZF unit)from a BMW 524TD, or even a Lincoln Mark LSC with that BMW engine. It is a smooth 6 cylinder, very strong, and would make that 240 seem to fly. The US versions of the 524 were only sold here in '85 and '86 (about 3500 total), but the engine did make it into the Lincolns and even a few motor homes for a while. Of course, around 50% of the European BMWs had that engine, both in turbo and non-turbo form, in both the 3 and 5 series. Now that would be a project - keeping the Diesel power, and even the Germanic roots! Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs Absolutely amazing photos! Tell us - is that a 450 V8 in the 240D? Now that we have the 91 300D and have tasted what a marvel the diesel has become (to that time) I keep looking at my 78 240D thinking it might be a good candidate for a transplant of a small block V6 or V8 from a GM or Ford donor - at ~65hp with auto and AC it's not really great for driving in the summer - especially when confronted with numerous stop lights and heat needing AC. That's why the 240D in your photos really caught my eye. No body get excited - just mulling things over in my head. Primary thing holding me back is the reality of having my 67 MGB partially assembled - and making slow progress. Attempting a transplant such as this would be a huge effort for me. BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123? With all the 240Ds and 300Ds out there surely someone has developed a kit to get them back on the road - when someone has a dead engine and nice body -- TIA - Happy New Year - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
E M wrote: Ever see the article about 15 years ago with the guy who stuffed all the running gear from a 928 into a Rabbit. ha ha ha. Did you see the 993 Turbo in a Type 1 (split window) VW transporter? There's a video of it running at Spa, passing a V12 Aston Martin and a Porsche turbo, filmed through the windshield of the Porsche. http://www.race-taxi.ch/
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
I replaced the type A ATF in my manual 240D with Mobil 1 ATF a couple of years ago (at aprrox. 170k miles) and it is a little smoother and quieter. Granted, the PO had not changed the old ATF in a long time. YMMV. On 12/31/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, Follow the creed on this list and switch to Mobil 1 ATF. I did in my 240D 3 years ago and it made a difference in shifting-esp. cold. FWIW-not another M1 oil thread. Dwight -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S
I'm not up on the pre-114/5 cars - is this a W111, 220Sb? (W111.012 with M180.941)? On 12/31/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list member than someone else. It's in North Alabama. Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks
Perhaps some photos of the board it should mount to, and the back of the clock would help? Seriously, it was a zero-brainer. Something must be fishy about the Gumpster if it doesn't just drop right in. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
Sorry to sound like a broken record - but the engine of choice would be the 603.96x ! Install the aluminum block V6 - V8 in the MGB. I put an Olds 215 V8 aluminum block in an MGA back in my youth --- LOTS of fun to drive! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S
This is the last year of the earlier round body Mercedes. It's the W180 sedan with a M180.924 engine. 55,279 were produced from 3/56 through 8/59. This web site will tell you a lot: http://www.mbzponton.org/ Here's a photo gallery of 220S and 220a (an earlier model) Mercedes. http://www.mbzponton.org/pax058/people/photogallery220s.htm A picture of mine was included until I tied up with Jeff was thrown out of the group by him a few years ago. His loss, not mine - I used to publish a color calendar for the group. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S I'm not up on the pre-114/5 cars - is this a W111, 220Sb? (W111.012 with M180.941)? On 12/31/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list member than someone else. It's in North Alabama. Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 doesn't crank, what to check first?
First jiggle on the gearshifter while starting. Next pull on the fan belt and see if the crankpulley moves. If the first on doesn't work and the pulley moves, offrer him $ 300 and get a new starter for half the profits. On 12/31/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers, I'm going to take a look tomorrow at a cheap 123 300D---cheap because it won't start. Seller says it ran fine for a while, now doesn't make a sound when the key is turned, but the battery is good and the headlights turn on. What do I check first? I seem to remember this being discussed before and an explanation being given of how to bypass the ignition switch (maybe by jumping the starter directly to the battery long enough to turn the engine over and get it started?). I can't think what else could likely be wrong, given those symptoms, other than the starter, ignition switch, or the wiring inbetween. Thanks, Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year.
Missed my point. *American* english and the society that created it is at fault. The religeous sectismus (how many kinds of Christians are there?) helped it along. *English* English doesn't have foul 4-letter words, nor does French, Dutch, German, Italian and on and on. I stick with (4 letters) *HAPPY NEW YEAR* (4 letters) On 12/31/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner said:best test would be that if it isn't something that would be acceptable when talking to children, or in polite company, then it probably is foul. Excellent comment - it reminded me what my Dad told me years ago after I said a word that was inappropriate - I think I called my brother a name - and Dad said people who use 4 letter words have poor vocabularies and are unable to properly express themselves any other way. Sadly, foul language has become common place - from shopping malls to sporting events to school - unfortunately, if it is bothersome to you, you are probably better off staying away from those places. Of course, it's sad people with good manners are forced to avoid places because of a few (or a lot) of bad apples. Happy New Year -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year. Hans: Foul language is usually an indication that the user can't find a more accurate or descriptive term to describe the thought. But the best test would be that if it isn't something that would be acceptable when talking to children, or in polite company, then it probably is foul. And there doesn't seem to be any M-B (or Diesel) content in such language, either. So Happy New Year to you and the net, too! Werner - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN,foul language. Happy New Year. What is foul language? It's all relative. The Brits say you bloody bas... , we say you f^*ing bas..., and the Germans just say Du Schweinehund. (My contribution for the last Saturday in 2006) Happy New Year to you all. On 12/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim: I still don't understand why you are using digest rather than GMail. No, no, no, ... please, not a new thread, just my comment. D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
I think I want one. :-) Zeb On 31/12/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: Ever see the article about 15 years ago with the guy who stuffed all the running gear from a 928 into a Rabbit. ha ha ha. Did you see the 993 Turbo in a Type 1 (split window) VW transporter? There's a video of it running at Spa, passing a V12 Aston Martin and a Porsche turbo, filmed through the windshield of the Porsche. http://www.race-taxi.ch/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ATF Type A??
Thank you all for your replies to my ATF question. I'm glad to know that there are several solutions. I think I will try and find some Mobil 1 ATF first. John Ingram 83 240D 240K
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
Back in the old hill climbing days one of our club members put a 292 Ford V8 into a VW van, installed just behind the front seats.It would fly..just looked all wrong 4 wheel drifting on gravel steep hills. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs E M wrote: Ever see the article about 15 years ago with the guy who stuffed all the running gear from a 928 into a Rabbit. ha ha ha. Did you see the 993 Turbo in a Type 1 (split window) VW transporter? There's a video of it running at Spa, passing a V12 Aston Martin and a Porsche turbo, filmed through the windshield of the Porsche. http://www.race-taxi.ch/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006 12:47 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006 12:47 PM
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
Jim, If you donate the 617 turbo, I'll do the conversion and document the how to. Otherwise, i'll have to use the NA one I have. At 07:00 PM 12/31/2006, you wrote: BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123? Much less trouble, and of far more interest to most of us, is putting a 300D turbo engine in instead. Lots of rust/wrecks out there still. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
Thank you all for your input about salvage yards. We finally ended up at Silver Star Recycling in Rancho Cordova. There, we got a hood ($125) and a right fender ($75) and both hood hinges ($25) from a Euro 123 coupe. In exactly the same color as our car! Craig
Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
Craig, Did you look around the place? I brought a Gas inline six cylinder from them for $349 turned out a very fair deal. Know if they had hinges in gold for 123? Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon Thank you all for your input about salvage yards. We finally ended up at Silver Star Recycling in Rancho Cordova. There, we got a hood ($125) and a right fender ($75) and both hood hinges ($25) from a Euro 123 coupe. In exactly the same color as our car! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006 12:47 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006 12:47 PM
[MBZ] Bob Hoover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acevFbpMXtM
Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
Ooooh, they may be a little pricey, best of to stick with steel:-) - Original Message - From: woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon Know if they had hinges in gold for 123? Dennis T
Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year.
If you can suffer an American Christian for a moment: I, and most given to contemplation, have analyzed what it is about certain words that makes them unacceptable in society. The four letter word could be buck just as easily as it could be fuck and if society has labeled it profane, it's profane. In that respect, you're correct - it's all relative. But the important issues, as best I can articulate them, are courtesy, decency and respect for your fellow man. Just as we are compelled to dress nicely in certain situations, we are compelled to talk nicely in certain situations. There are standards in society for the way we act, (and for good reason) and speech is a big part of it. We could all act like gibbons if we chose to, but where would that leave us? I agree, Larry, that profanity is becoming, well, quite relative. It is commonplace among our youth. Does any kid get his or her mouth washed out with soap anymore? Just asking to bring to light the fact that we are changing. Does it happen to be a change for the better? And yes, it does smack of an intelligence deficit. Let's not use the F word more than once in a single sentence, for starters. That is, if a sentence is even used. And it's working its way bit by bit into mainstream acceptance. You can now be treated to words on primetime network TV that were once forbidden. (yes, you can now call someone a dickhead on a primetime TV show, just to give one example). And how about that VW commercial that has the lady narrowly cut off from *finishing* the expression holy sh%* by the scene cutting away. Are my virgin ears stinging at all this? Come on. I'm just saying that I'm not pleased with the slide society is riding, and I question how good the outcome will be. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have posted on this - it's not related to our MB diesels, but I saw just enough posts to make me join in. Just giving my opinion. And of course, wishing you all a Happy one. Brian Doesn't care to be any particular kind of Christian On 12/31/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Missed my point. *American* english and the society that created it is at fault. The religeous sectismus (how many kinds of Christians are there?) helped it along. *English* English doesn't have foul 4-letter words, nor does French, Dutch, German, Italian and on and on. I stick with (4 letters) *HAPPY NEW YEAR* (4 letters) On 12/31/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner said:best test would be that if it isn't something that would be acceptable when talking to children, or in polite company, then it probably is foul. Excellent comment - it reminded me what my Dad told me years ago after I said a word that was inappropriate - I think I called my brother a name - and Dad said people who use 4 letter words have poor vocabularies and are unable to properly express themselves any other way. Sadly, foul language has become common place - from shopping malls to sporting events to school - unfortunately, if it is bothersome to you, you are probably better off staying away from those places. Of course, it's sad people with good manners are forced to avoid places because of a few (or a lot) of bad apples. Happy New Year -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN, foul language. Happy New Year. Hans: Foul language is usually an indication that the user can't find a more accurate or descriptive term to describe the thought. But the best test would be that if it isn't something that would be acceptable when talking to children, or in polite company, then it probably is foul. And there doesn't seem to be any M-B (or Diesel) content in such language, either. So Happy New Year to you and the net, too! Werner - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] New thread, used to be Re: ADMIN,foul language. Happy New Year. What is foul language? It's all relative. The Brits say you bloody bas... , we say you f^*ing bas..., and the Germans just say Du Schweinehund. (My contribution for the last Saturday in 2006) Happy New Year to you all. On 12/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim: I still don't understand why you are using digest rather than GMail. No, no, no, ... please, not a new thread, just my comment. D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts
Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S
Tom - I am alive thanks to a '62 22Sb, but like the 50's models better. Doubt I could fit it into the budget this year, but how much are you asking for it? Do you have photo's and history? I would like to visit Alabama and look up dad's records from when he lived there. He came to FL in 1932 with a Chrysler Sport Phaeton. He hit a cow out near Silver Springs [dirt road then vs. the 4 lane it is now]. Figured he had wrecked the front end, but could not find a trace of the accident. Too bad he didn't keep that car ... BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 282k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:26 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S This is the last year of the earlier round body Mercedes. It's the W180 sedan with a M180.924 engine. 55,279 were produced from 3/56 through 8/59. This web site will tell you a lot: http://www.mbzponton.org/ Here's a photo gallery of 220S and 220a (an earlier model) Mercedes. http://www.mbzponton.org/pax058/people/photogallery220s.htm A picture of mine was included until I tied up with Jeff was thrown out of the group by him a few years ago. His loss, not mine - I used to publish a color calendar for the group. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S I'm not up on the pre-114/5 cars - is this a W111, 220Sb? (W111.012 with M180.941)? On 12/31/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list member than someone else. It's in North Alabama. Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bob Hoover
My total piloting experience is one takeoff and about 25 minutes in a Cessna some years ago, but that was certainly impressive. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:28 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Bob Hoover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acevFbpMXtM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bob Hoover
Bob Hoover's flying is the stuff of legend - they made a longer film of his flying the Shrike as part of the advertising for the company. It was shown several times at the Elmendorf Aero Club back in the '70s, and that kind of flying is still impressive to this day! And then there's the stunt double flying in Top Gun, also very impressive. Werner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] Bob Hoover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acevFbpMXtM
Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S
Bill, I can provide a list of what I've done to the car since I've owned it. I've owned the car for about 6 years. I'm asking $3600.00. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S Tom - I am alive thanks to a '62 22Sb, but like the 50's models better. Doubt I could fit it into the budget this year, but how much are you asking for it? Do you have photo's and history? I would like to visit Alabama and look up dad's records from when he lived there. He came to FL in 1932 with a Chrysler Sport Phaeton. He hit a cow out near Silver Springs [dirt road then vs. the 4 lane it is now]. Figured he had wrecked the front end, but could not find a trace of the accident. Too bad he didn't keep that car ... BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 282k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:26 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S This is the last year of the earlier round body Mercedes. It's the W180 sedan with a M180.924 engine. 55,279 were produced from 3/56 through 8/59. This web site will tell you a lot: http://www.mbzponton.org/ Here's a photo gallery of 220S and 220a (an earlier model) Mercedes. http://www.mbzponton.org/pax058/people/photogallery220s.htm A picture of mine was included until I tied up with Jeff was thrown out of the group by him a few years ago. His loss, not mine - I used to publish a color calendar for the group. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S I'm not up on the pre-114/5 cars - is this a W111, 220Sb? (W111.012 with M180.941)? On 12/31/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list member than someone else. It's in North Alabama. Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S
Tom - I am currently in legal negotiations with a recalcitrant disability insurer. I am a bit reluctant to spend that until the suit is settled [expecting a win, of course]. If it is not sold by then let's talk. Happy New Year BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S Bill, I can provide a list of what I've done to the car since I've owned it. I've owned the car for about 6 years. I'm asking $3600.00. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S Tom - I am alive thanks to a '62 22Sb, but like the 50's models better. Doubt I could fit it into the budget this year, but how much are you asking for it? Do you have photo's and history? I would like to visit Alabama and look up dad's records from when he lived there. He came to FL in 1932 with a Chrysler Sport Phaeton. He hit a cow out near Silver Springs [dirt road then vs. the 4 lane it is now]. Figured he had wrecked the front end, but could not find a trace of the accident. Too bad he didn't keep that car ... BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 282k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:26 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S This is the last year of the earlier round body Mercedes. It's the W180 sedan with a M180.924 engine. 55,279 were produced from 3/56 through 8/59. This web site will tell you a lot: http://www.mbzponton.org/ Here's a photo gallery of 220S and 220a (an earlier model) Mercedes. http://www.mbzponton.org/pax058/people/photogallery220s.htm A picture of mine was included until I tied up with Jeff was thrown out of the group by him a few years ago. His loss, not mine - I used to publish a color calendar for the group. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S I'm not up on the pre-114/5 cars - is this a W111, 220Sb? (W111.012 with M180.941)? On 12/31/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list member than someone else. It's in North Alabama. Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S
Bill, I understand. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S Tom - I am currently in legal negotiations with a recalcitrant disability insurer. I am a bit reluctant to spend that until the suit is settled [expecting a win, of course]. If it is not sold by then let's talk. Happy New Year BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S Bill, I can provide a list of what I've done to the car since I've owned it. I've owned the car for about 6 years. I'm asking $3600.00. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S Tom - I am alive thanks to a '62 22Sb, but like the 50's models better. Doubt I could fit it into the budget this year, but how much are you asking for it? Do you have photo's and history? I would like to visit Alabama and look up dad's records from when he lived there. He came to FL in 1932 with a Chrysler Sport Phaeton. He hit a cow out near Silver Springs [dirt road then vs. the 4 lane it is now]. Figured he had wrecked the front end, but could not find a trace of the accident. Too bad he didn't keep that car ... BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 282k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:26 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S This is the last year of the earlier round body Mercedes. It's the W180 sedan with a M180.924 engine. 55,279 were produced from 3/56 through 8/59. This web site will tell you a lot: http://www.mbzponton.org/ Here's a photo gallery of 220S and 220a (an earlier model) Mercedes. http://www.mbzponton.org/pax058/people/photogallery220s.htm A picture of mine was included until I tied up with Jeff was thrown out of the group by him a few years ago. His loss, not mine - I used to publish a color calendar for the group. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S I'm not up on the pre-114/5 cars - is this a W111, 220Sb? (W111.012 with M180.941)? On 12/31/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list member than someone else. It's in North Alabama. Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bob Hoover
I saw Bob flying a Commander just like that many years ago at an airshow in Lawton, OK. It was truely an amazing preformance. Met him afterwards - he was a real gentleman. On 1/1/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Hoover's flying is the stuff of legend - they made a longer film of his flying the Shrike as part of the advertising for the company. It was shown several times at the Elmendorf Aero Club back in the '70s, and that kind of flying is still impressive to this day! And then there's the stunt double flying in Top Gun, also very impressive. Werner -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
I'm presently wrestling with the wife over which vehicle we'll get to replace her aging 123 clunker. She's adamantly convinced she needs an AWD vehicle for her alpine-related program activities (x-country ski, hike, snowshoe, etc.), but I think it's stoopid to lug all that 4WD stuff around for the rest of the 99.% time you don't need it. I don't think logic is going to prevail, so...does anyone know much about the Audi Allroad or A6 Avant Quattro, etc.? They seem like a nifty rig, if you're into that sort of thing. Any info or experience out there? -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] MBZ history?
Richard had all the seperate lists, I have basically combined all the lists into one here with a few exceptions. The only specialty lists are the SL list and the vets list for older cars. They are there but not much goes on with them. Most of the activity is here and just about any question can probably be answered. Werner Fehlauer wrote: Thanks, Kaleb - I wasn't aware of just what the timing (or the reason) for the Ritter/Easley list origination, or just how Richard Sexton got involved. I was fully involved with the old MBCA lists, and was ashamed of how a few empire builders treated Kathy, who gave her all for the good of mthe club and the lists she was mother to. And when a few insiders (who didn't take dissent well or at all) ran off Todd Knutson and Jay Obrien, plus several other good guys, I was happy that someone picked up the challenge to keep a few nets going. But you are correct, when things crashed, it got kind of lonesome, and I really appreciate you taking the challenge. What I didn't know was how things had transitioned from the days of Richard Sexton to now, mainly because I had to drop off for a couple of long periods due to medical and other issues. I do have a concern though that with too many sub nets, that we may be losing out on the social and technical aspects of a larger group. From what I can see, there may be lots of lurkers, but there is no way to know which net to send out a question for a particular interest. That may just be a lack of my own understanding, or perhaps a realization that there are more nets that need to be monitored (and to be careful of using in response?). Anyway, Happy New Year, and keep smiling. Enjoy the winter weather, which you folks in the plains have been nice enough to keep away from the East Coast! Werner -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
I agree with your wife, a rear wheel drive Mercedes is not the greatest in the snow ice. But I have another solution. As well as Mercedes fans, we've also been long term Jeep fans. My Wife bought a 2006 4WD Grand Cherokee with a V6 last year and she loves it. The system is a full time 4WD it uses the brakes to lock down any wheel that spins. She does need it since she works in Wisconsin. I've driven the jeep in the snow and the 4WD system works great. The only downside is that it's not the heavy duty 4WD system that you'd use for rock crawling but we don't do that anyway. If you want the heavy duty traditional 4WD system, you have to buy a V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The mileage penalty was 1 MPG under the V6 without 4WD. And the best part is - I got her 2001 Grand Cherokee! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I'm presently wrestling with the wife over which vehicle we'll get to replace her aging 123 clunker. She's adamantly convinced she needs an AWD vehicle for her alpine-related program activities (x-country ski, hike, snowshoe, etc.), but I think it's stoopid to lug all that 4WD stuff around for the rest of the 99.% time you don't need it. I don't think logic is going to prevail, so...does anyone know much about the Audi Allroad or A6 Avant Quattro, etc.? They seem like a nifty rig, if you're into that sort of thing. Any info or experience out there? -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
Well, from personal experience I can say that a well designed system has no reason not to lug around all that extra stuff. I've had and known more than a couple Suby's and The only AWD issue I ever recall was a minor tendancy for the center clutches to grab around turns which was only because we hadn't yet changed the tranny fluid at around 90K miles. It was fine after we changed the fluid. Otherwise in normal driving you never have any wheels slipping and with Blizzaks on, it almost never slips even in snow and slush. I don't recall the earlier 2wd models getting much more mileage. I agree, you don't *need* AWD most of the time, but I would MUCH prefer ANY vehicle I buy to have AWD... That said, I have no experience with Audi's Quattro setup, but it should only be a better system since it also uses traction control to get the side-side traction so that it should be capable of true 4WD. And the All-Road is definitely a model I liked with the air suspension. Levi On 1/1/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm presently wrestling with the wife over which vehicle we'll get to replace her aging 123 clunker. She's adamantly convinced she needs an AWD vehicle for her alpine-related program activities (x-country ski, hike, snowshoe, etc.), but I think it's stoopid to lug all that 4WD stuff around for the rest of the 99.% time you don't need it. I don't think logic is going to prevail, so...does anyone know much about the Audi Allroad or A6 Avant Quattro, etc.? They seem like a nifty rig, if you're into that sort of thing. Any info or experience out there? -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
Casey - I'd bet that she would just love an ML320CDI - probably not that much different in price from the Audi. A new Diesel, quiet, and lots of go, and plenty of room for skis and stuff! Check out the MBUSA site Werner - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I'm presently wrestling with the wife over which vehicle we'll get to replace her aging 123 clunker. She's adamantly convinced she needs an AWD vehicle for her alpine-related program activities (x-country ski, hike, snowshoe, etc.), but I think it's stoopid to lug all that 4WD stuff around for the rest of the 99.% time you don't need it. I don't think logic is going to prevail, so...does anyone know much about the Audi Allroad or A6 Avant Quattro, etc.? They seem like a nifty rig, if you're into that sort of thing. Any info or experience out there? -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 Antenna
The Hirshman antenna on my '81 300SD only goes down to the last section. Car wash jockey banged on it the last time and now it won't go up all the way. I am suspecting that a replacement is in order. What am I looking at, or what is recommended to get it working properly? I have seen them from @$30 to over $100 with lots of claims. Anyone have a working one at a decent price? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 282 k Miles
Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna
The lower cost universal replacements are not worth the trouble. They don't have the correct connection for Mercedes antenna cable, plus they are incredibly cheap. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 126 Antenna The Hirshman antenna on my '81 300SD only goes down to the last section. Car wash jockey banged on it the last time and now it won't go up all the way. I am suspecting that a replacement is in order. What am I looking at, or what is recommended to get it working properly? I have seen them from @$30 to over $100 with lots of claims. Anyone have a working one at a decent price? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 282 k Miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna
I think the mast is affordable. If it goes up and down at all, a new mast would probably do it.
Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna
You just need a new mast, about $30 or so. Unscrew the bezel at the base of the antenna with the mast down as far as it will go, then switch radio on or set antenna switch to full up and pull the tail out of the antenna housing as it comes free. Note which way the teeth go! Wipe a bit of silicone grease on the new tail, insert it in the same orientation as the old one and push down until it stops. Have someone switch the antenna switch to the down position and feed the new tail and antenna mast into the motor box, then re-install the bezel. Check the grommet while you are at this -- a good time to replace it if it's hard. Take the antenna motor out (one nut, I think), pull the old grommet out from inside, push the new one through the hole, put the motor box back in, then pull the new mast in. May take a couple tries to get it to go all the way down if you don't get the teeth started soon enough, but it's easier next time -- just run the antenna motor all the way up, it will grab correctly when you switch it down again. Lightly grease the mast with silicone grease or spray silicone lube (the grease lasts longer, I use Loctite 51360 since it has many other uses as well (like getting bushings in). Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
I've had a little experience with the Audi's and since my Passat which has 4 Motion is similar I would go for the Audi. The Allroad has a little better ground clearance, but is no longer being built and the Avant has a little more room. Just in my opinion Audi still has the best allwheel drive no matter which one you pick Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I'm presently wrestling with the wife over which vehicle we'll get to replace her aging 123 clunker. She's adamantly convinced she needs an AWD vehicle for her alpine-related program activities (x-country ski, hike, snowshoe, etc.), but I think it's stoopid to lug all that 4WD stuff around for the rest of the 99.% time you don't need it. I don't think logic is going to prevail, so...does anyone know much about the Audi Allroad or A6 Avant Quattro, etc.? They seem like a nifty rig, if you're into that sort of thing. Any info or experience out there? -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna
Buy the mast replacement from Rusty - the ones he sells are direct replacements. www.buymbparts.com Your cost from Rusty is between $28 and $35 depending on brand and if you need the toothed track or not. Replacement is very easy - the instructions given by Peter are perfect. Also, the mast should be lubricated monthly - I use a Gun Reel Cloth which is impregnated with a lubricate and preservative - available in any sporting goods department. Run the mast up and down while wiping with the cloth. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Antenna The Hirshman antenna on my '81 300SD only goes down to the last section. Car wash jockey banged on it the last time and now it won't go up all the way. I am suspecting that a replacement is in order. What am I looking at, or what is recommended to get it working properly? I have seen them from @$30 to over $100 with lots of claims. Anyone have a working one at a decent price? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 282 k Miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/1/2007
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k, so the new CDI's are strictly verboten. Here's a vid of my wife out test driving an A6 Avant ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6OcNmeuVcmode=relatedsearch= On 1/1/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Casey - I'd bet that she would just love an ML320CDI - probably not that much different in price from the Audi. A new Diesel, quiet, and lots of go, and plenty of room for skis and stuff! Check out the MBUSA site Werner Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
Wish we could get away with that here in the States. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k, so the new CDI's are strictly verboten. Here's a vid of my wife out test driving an A6 Avant ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6OcNmeuVcmode=relatedsearch= On 1/1/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Casey - I'd bet that she would just love an ML320CDI - probably not that much different in price from the Audi. A new Diesel, quiet, and lots of go, and plenty of room for skis and stuff! Check out the MBUSA site Werner Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
WOW! Thanks for all the response to my passing remark about putting a different engine in my 240D! BTW, I saw that video a couple of weeks ago with the VW Bus outrunning the Porsche 993 - if you've ever driven a VW Bus you'll know what a change in personality that is! From slower than a 240D auto with AC on in the heat of summer, to AMG tricked out speeds. Incredible. DOn't know what (if anything) I'll do to the 240D. Right now, the engine is perfect and the body is 90% perfect - but I think a W123 300D Turbo is probably the best option. Does the 300D T use a different AT than my 240D? I guess it might depend on the donor 300? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs Jim, If you donate the 617 turbo, I'll do the conversion and document the how to. Otherwise, i'll have to use the NA one I have. At 07:00 PM 12/31/2006, you wrote: BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123? Much less trouble, and of far more interest to most of us, is putting a 300D turbo engine in instead. Lots of rust/wrecks out there still. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006
[MBZ] Brake Double Flare Tools
Howdy, I'm considering getting the tool kit to do double flares and need to know if there's a Metric Kit and a SAE Kit? I'm assuming there's both but haven't seen more than the SAE - although I haven't looked hard. I've found a place that does d flared tubing when provided with a metal template but I may prefer to make my own TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks
The console is original and I found two of the quartz at PnP that no matter how I spun them would not line up with the holes for the post. Off by degrees. I sat them next to the spare mechanicals, and there were differences. Maybe I got the really odd quartz clocks out of non 115 cars On Dec 31, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: That is because you are a mechanical God who can make a car out of spare microwave sheet metal. I am simple and can not figure out how to make that quartz fit the hole in Gump. It is a wonder I even procreated. Not really. The clock, of course, wouldn't be giving you any help! Seriously, it was a zero-brainer. Something must be fishy about the Gumpster if it doesn't just drop right in. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
Casey - OK, you didn't mention a spending cap. So how about looking over 4Matic used M-Bs? The StarMark site (under MBUSA) might surprise you After all, there's nothing as safe to have your Significant Other in than an M-B! (its a shame that we can't tap into the used ML 270 CDI market - those have been out for enough years in the rest of the world that they should be affordable, just not in the USA) Werner - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k, so the new CDI's are strictly verboten. Here's a vid of my wife out test driving an A6 Avant ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6OcNmeuVcmode=relatedsearch=
Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks
Standard board, but I sold the clocks on eBay to further my accumulation of old Benz junk. On Dec 31, 2006, at 7:12 PM, OK Don wrote: Perhaps some photos of the board it should mount to, and the back of the clock would help? Seriously, it was a zero-brainer. Something must be fishy about the Gumpster if it doesn't just drop right in. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
I'm betting even a used 4Matic will put you over the 20K limit. Besides they don't have the ground clearance that the Audi has Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? Casey - OK, you didn't mention a spending cap. So how about looking over 4Matic used M-Bs? The StarMark site (under MBUSA) might surprise you After all, there's nothing as safe to have your Significant Other in than an M-B! (its a shame that we can't tap into the used ML 270 CDI market - those have been out for enough years in the rest of the world that they should be affordable, just not in the USA) Werner - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k, so the new CDI's are strictly verboten. Here's a vid of my wife out test driving an A6 Avant ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6OcNmeuVcmode=relatedsearch= ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks
The console is original and I found two of the quartz at PnP that no matter how I spun them would not line up with the holes for the post. Off by degrees. I sat them next to the spare mechanicals, and there were differences. Maybe I got the really odd quartz clocks out of non 115 cars Well then, what did you get them out of? All the clocks I've had, five or so, have all been mix-n-match. I got a few tick-tocks before I finally scored enough quartzes to equip both cars with them, plus one spare. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Brake Double Flare Tools
I'm considering getting the tool kit to do double flares and need to know if there's a Metric Kit and a SAE Kit? I'm assuming there's both but haven't seen more than the SAE - although I haven't looked hard. So far as I know, there's only the SAE. Something about Bendix (or somebody) having invented the brakes in the first place and setting the standard. I just bought a standard double-flare kit when I fixed the brake on the 114. The nuts are different for metric, but not the line. Or perhaps I misremember. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna
or what is recommended to get it working properly? New mast. No mas. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
If she is able to do that, she needs Gump to keep her under control. Get her a nice old diesel go no where fast car with chains. On Jan 1, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Zeitgeist wrote: I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k, so the new CDI's are strictly verboten. Here's a vid of my wife out test driving an A6 Avant ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6OcNmeuVcmode=relatedsearch= On 1/1/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Casey - I'd bet that she would just love an ML320CDI - probably not that much different in price from the Audi. A new Diesel, quiet, and lots of go, and plenty of room for skis and stuff! Check out the MBUSA site Werner Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 115 Dash Clocks
Pulls from whatever the PnP had that carried the sort of clock. There have been some 116, a few slc, a bunch of 114/115. Not remembering which offered what clock, since I tried and failed, so moved on. Should I snag more quartz, I will look at the issue harder and figure out what I am doing wrong. Or just drive over to your home and see if you can point out what I am not doing right. On Jan 1, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: The console is original and I found two of the quartz at PnP that no matter how I spun them would not line up with the holes for the post. Off by degrees. I sat them next to the spare mechanicals, and there were differences. Maybe I got the really odd quartz clocks out of non 115 cars Well then, what did you get them out of? All the clocks I've had, five or so, have all been mix-n-match. I got a few tick-tocks before I finally scored enough quartzes to equip both cars with them, plus one spare. -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] 2.5 turbo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-90-Mercedes-300D-Turbo-Diesel-like-new-LOW-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ200063997039QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs
How hard is it to find a really nice 240D Larry? Are there still some around that have very little if any rust? My old 911 is perfect but what are the odds of finding such a diesel? Was the 240 made up to '85, or did the 300TD replace it for North America? What should I expect to pay for a really nice one? Anyone have any leads? thanks. Zeb. On 01/01/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW! Thanks for all the response to my passing remark about putting a different engine in my 240D! BTW, I saw that video a couple of weeks ago with the VW Bus outrunning the Porsche 993 - if you've ever driven a VW Bus you'll know what a change in personality that is! From slower than a 240D auto with AC on in the heat of summer, to AMG tricked out speeds. Incredible. DOn't know what (if anything) I'll do to the 240D. Right now, the engine is perfect and the body is 90% perfect - but I think a W123 300D Turbo is probably the best option. Does the 300D T use a different AT than my 240D? I guess it might depend on the donor 300? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amazing MBs Jim, If you donate the 617 turbo, I'll do the conversion and document the how to. Otherwise, i'll have to use the NA one I have. At 07:00 PM 12/31/2006, you wrote: BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123? Much less trouble, and of far more interest to most of us, is putting a 300D turbo engine in instead. Lots of rust/wrecks out there still. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 91 560SEL suspension pump
I was looking under the 560SEL and notice what appears to be suspension oil leaking from near front of engine. It appears to be coming from the suspension pump, I was wondering if this was a common failure and if they make a repair kit? Thanks Trampas
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
Well, just a quick look at the MBUSA pre-owned list, shows a Silver '99 ML320 for $14K in Lynnwood, WA, and a White '99 ML430 for $18K in Fife - not that I would ever recommend a gas guzzler, but that shows for under 20K you can get an all-wheel drive M-B! Also, the '99 MLs don't have all the bugs out that the newer ones do, either. But most of the reported troubles were body related, such as rattles, rear hatch shocks, etc. The engines are pretty bulletproof, since they are used in lots of M-B cars. Werner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I'm betting even a used 4Matic will put you over the 20K limit. Besides they don't have the ground clearance that the Audi has Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? Casey - OK, you didn't mention a spending cap. So how about looking over 4Matic used M-Bs? The StarMark site (under MBUSA) might surprise you After all, there's nothing as safe to have your Significant Other in than an M-B! (its a shame that we can't tap into the used ML 270 CDI market - those have been out for enough years in the rest of the world that they should be affordable, just not in the USA) Werner - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k, so the new CDI's are strictly verboten. Here's a vid of my wife out test driving an A6 Avant ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6OcNmeuVcmode=relatedsearch=
