Re: [MBZ] 500 SEL/SEC

[Mitch Haley]

Terry Geiger wrote:
> 
> This 500 SEC is gray market with 5 speed manual.  I bet it likes fuel.

Drop a OM606 turbo in it. Could be the ultimate FrankenBenz.
Can't you just imagine a 450hp superturbo 126 coupe mit 5sp?

Re: [MBZ] 911 erl

[LarryT]

RLE asked:>

Howdy,
Have been looking unsuccessfully for my source - basically it said the 
engines of the '70s were not built to tolerences that would support a 0W 
oil - whether synthetic or dino.  Regardless of what Porsche said, I'm not 
sure they spend a great deal of engineering resources looking into the oils 
suitable for 30-40 year old 911s.  I suspect they would  prefer to see us in 
new (or newer) models.  I know I'm not going to run my '74 911 on 0W30 or 
0W40 - unless Porsche wants to put a guarantee out there saying they'll 
cover any oil related damage - & maybe not even then. ;-)


Do you have a copy of that TSB?  The ones I was able to locate delt with 
fuel and fuel systems.  It probably wasn't a complete library I was looking 
at -


If I find that info I'll let you know -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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<'90-present but before that the tolerances are just not tight enough. The 
M1

website recommends 0W40 for all the Porsches regardless of year.

Let me know if you have any questions or comments ->>


My question is, where does this recommendation come from? Porsche issued a
service bulletin years ago recommending M1 0W40 in every one of their 
engines

back to 1973.5. Which was the first year for CIS in the 911T.

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Re: [MBZ] german grammar

[Redghost]

Might have to do with Anglo Saxon usage and the change of the form to  
relate to distance, such that one would travel a great distance and  
it would then be far.  Where Gehe, is much closer to the short travel  
of going to a location not so farhe away.  Been more than 35 years  
since I had to use german, and rust is all about.





On Mar 31, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


"Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer"
This is perfectly correct. "Ich gehe" means simply "I go" and is not
specific whether I fly, drive, walk or whatever.


Was this always true?  Or is it language drift?  I'm just
wondering where my teacher's STRONG opinion on this came
from.  Gehe was going, implied walking.  Fahre was traveling,
implied not walking.  (To simplify.)  Was the difference the
nuance of the amount of trouble/expense one was going to?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Mike Canfield]

The straight grained locust splits nice.  I will split that all day with a 
maul...Knots, on the other hand usually get hacked up with the chain 
saw.  They suck.


Mike
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I did split some locust wood with it. sections that were 18" long and maybe
10-12" across. That is some tough wood! It split it with no problem, but 
you

had to run the splitter all the way throught  it. That wood just does not
want to come apart. It sure burns good, hot, and long though.

Did not have any big knots. Not sure it would have been able to split that
or not.


On 3/29/07, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Give it a big ole locust knot and see how it does.  That always seems to
be
a good test of a splitter.  Let it set for a season first if ye really
want
to test it;>)

Mike



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>I rent a 30 ton splitter once a year for $60 a day. Rent it Saturday
> afternoon and have to return it Monday morning when they open. I can
split
> a
> stack 4' high by 50' in the time I have the splitter.
>
> That way I don't have to maintain the splitter or store it.
>
> I have split every type of wood you can find in Oklahoma Pine, Oak,
> Hickory... you name it that 30 ton press goes through it. It will even
> cross
> crush softer wood up to about 6'' in diameter. I think the 30 ton will
> probably do anything you want.
>
>
> On 3/23/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Need to do this sooner or later, and I have a 15% coupon at HF.
>> Their flier had a 30-ton unit.  Has a 9HP Robin and a 16 GPM pump,
>> 2-speed, and a 24" stroke.  $1300 (before discount).  Any likelihood
>> that this will be a decent enough unit?  They're all about $1k,
>> unless they're a whole lot more than that.
>>
>> Preliminary results with the new Kill-A-Watt indicate that we're
>> spending about 6 cents/day for heat.  Plus wood.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Mike Canfield]

Yep, that's just over 6 face cord.

Mike
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Its 4' high by 50' by 18".

On 3/28/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I rent a 30 ton splitter once a year for $60 a day. Rent it Saturday
> afternoon and have to return it Monday morning when they open. I can
> split a
> stack 4' high by 50' in the time I have the splitter.

So, would that be 6 'face cords'?  I borrowed a neighbor's splitter,
and in the time I have daily to use it it takes me a couple of weeks
to do our 8-10 full cords, maybe 25 face cords.  Rental over that
period of time is a whole lot less attractive.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] out of date advice

[RELNGSON]

> < > recommendations -- not Mobil's -- for oil weight>>
> 
> Exactly Allan, well said - Mobil's priority is to sell oil not worrying
> about old cars like ours.>>
> 
Why not, if you believe that oil technology hasn't changed since the '70s.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Richard Smith]

I did split some locust wood with it. sections that were 18" long and maybe
10-12" across. That is some tough wood! It split it with no problem, but you
had to run the splitter all the way throught  it. That wood just does not
want to come apart. It sure burns good, hot, and long though.

Did not have any big knots. Not sure it would have been able to split that
or not.


On 3/29/07, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Give it a big ole locust knot and see how it does.  That always seems to
be
a good test of a splitter.  Let it set for a season first if ye really
want
to test it;>)

Mike



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>I rent a 30 ton splitter once a year for $60 a day. Rent it Saturday
> afternoon and have to return it Monday morning when they open. I can
split
> a
> stack 4' high by 50' in the time I have the splitter.
>
> That way I don't have to maintain the splitter or store it.
>
> I have split every type of wood you can find in Oklahoma Pine, Oak,
> Hickory... you name it that 30 ton press goes through it. It will even
> cross
> crush softer wood up to about 6'' in diameter. I think the 30 ton will
> probably do anything you want.
>
>
> On 3/23/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Need to do this sooner or later, and I have a 15% coupon at HF.
>> Their flier had a 30-ton unit.  Has a 9HP Robin and a 16 GPM pump,
>> 2-speed, and a 24" stroke.  $1300 (before discount).  Any likelihood
>> that this will be a decent enough unit?  They're all about $1k,
>> unless they're a whole lot more than that.
>>
>> Preliminary results with the new Kill-A-Watt indicate that we're
>> spending about 6 cents/day for heat.  Plus wood.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

[Richard Smith]

Its 4' high by 50' by 18".

On 3/28/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I rent a 30 ton splitter once a year for $60 a day. Rent it Saturday
> afternoon and have to return it Monday morning when they open. I can
> split a
> stack 4' high by 50' in the time I have the splitter.

So, would that be 6 'face cords'?  I borrowed a neighbor's splitter,
and in the time I have daily to use it it takes me a couple of weeks
to do our 8-10 full cords, maybe 25 face cords.  Rental over that
period of time is a whole lot less attractive.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Shattered glass Maserati

[Rich Thomas]

I wonder if an old Benz version would be sufficiently artistic.  I saw a 
300D a coupla years ago done up for the art car parade that was covered 
in little dolls and figurines and mirrors.  An ignominious end to a good 
car.


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Re: [MBZ] Audio hackery

[Rich Thomas]

I saw something recently about this sort of thing, I think on the Make 
magazine website/blogs.  The guy soldered in a connection on some part 
of the board inside his player, and got it to work OK.  That was with a 
newer unit, so might not apply to vintage electronics.


http://makezine.com/blog/

--R
  

[MBZ] Audio hackery

[Jim Cathey]

I decided to surprise my wife by putting the portable CD player in her
car, currently the Chicken Wagon.  (I bought her some books on disc
she might like.)  When I put the cassette adapter into the Becker it
blew its fuse.  Not the car's, but the one in the clip-on holder
behind the radio.  When I pulled it out enough to temporarily bypass
the (undersized?) 2A Euro fuse, I found it wouldn't retain the
cassette adapter.  The tape safety was kicking in.  I opened up the
Becker and had my memory refreshed by the sight of belt pieces
floating around.  Oh yeah, the cassette in this _was_ defunct!  I'm
mulling over ways to bypass the tape adapter right now...

So, the Becker 599 Europa Cassette has a rear-panel DIN connector for
external sourcing, but it's mono, not stereo.  So that's out.
Internally the cassette transport mechanism is a hinged subassembly.
It unplugs and pivots out, then you pry the snap-ear hinges open a bit
and remove the whole thing.  Easy.  Removed, you lose the four tape
buttons and the dial/band selector light.  There is a four-pin
connector (with only three used) and a three-pin connector on the main
board for the transport.  The three-pin is for the head: the center is
common ground, the pin towards the volume control (black) is R, the
remaining one (red) is L.  It seems to be 'hot' at all times, even
with the radio playing on the bench touching one of the signal pins
results in superimposed hum.  On the four-pin connector the big red
wire towards the tuning knob is +12V, the next one is a no-connect,
the next (yellow) is switched by the transport to +12V to disable the
radio, and the last (black, towards the volume control) is grounded by
the FF/REW buttons on the transport to attenuate the signal.  Ground
is through the metal chassis.  It should be relatively easy to
fabricate a plate of some sort to cover the tape button hole, and to
rig some jacks into which to plug the CD player or her iPod.  (The
iPod is the real reason I'm going to this much trouble, an auto CD
player is not expensive.  Ones new enough to already have an iPod jack
_are_ expensive.  And if I'm going to operate it makes sense to do it
on an old Becker of little value.)

I suppose that I need to plan out what I want to do.  OK, in a perfect
world the cover plate will have a mini phone jack for the
iPod/Discman, a mini power jack for the Discman, a USB jack to power
the iPod, and an incandescent lamp or bank of LED's to light up the
tuning dial and band indicator and to indicate (by omission) that
the auxiliary input is active.  The USB jack requires 5 V, the Discman
requires 4.5 V.  As the Discman uses a 3 V non-rechargeable battery
pack I suspect that the 4.5 V is not too critical, and that the
Discman and USB power plugs can thus share 5V.  That means only a
single 5 V regulator is required.  USB calls for 500 mA, the Discman's
adapter is rated about the same.  If I make the cover plate out of
metal it should be a nice heat sink for a 7805 regulator.  Perfect.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] german grammar

[OK Don]

The original drawings of a lot of the Willie and Joe cartoons by Bill
Mauldin (sp?) are in the 45th, Infantry Museum in OKC - there's a
whole room full of them - great stuff.

On 3/31/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Reminds me of Willie and Joe" in "More Mox Nix"..  (that's dating
myself ..  mid 50's...)

When they encountered "einfahrt", "durchfahrt", "ausfahrt", etc.,

Willie or Joe commented...  "I don't know which way to "fahrt"

Just a Saturday "Phriday Phunny".

Take care,

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Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

[Rich Thomas]

I think we need taller chimneys.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

The earth's PROTECTIVE ozone layer is thinning - this is a big problem

Ground level ozone (smog) is a BAD thing - burns the eyes, irritant, etc.

  
  

Re: [MBZ] german grammar

[Chuck Landenberger]

Reminds me of Willie and Joe" in "More Mox Nix"..  (that's dating  
myself ..  mid 50's...)


When they encountered "einfahrt", "durchfahrt", "ausfahrt", etc.,

Willie or Joe commented...  "I don't know which way to "fahrt"

Just a Saturday "Phriday Phunny".

Take care,

Chuck
On Mar 31, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


"Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer"
This is perfectly correct. "Ich gehe" means simply "I go" and is not
specific whether I fly, drive, walk or whatever.


Was this always true?  Or is it language drift?  I'm just
wondering where my teacher's STRONG opinion on this came
from.  Gehe was going, implied walking.  Fahre was traveling,
implied not walking.  (To simplify.)  Was the difference the
nuance of the amount of trouble/expense one was going to?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

[Rich Thomas]

"I know it needs lots of front end work, 'cause it chews
through tires at an alarming rate (inners wear really quickly)."

The TD was doing this also, was one of those things I was "gonna get a 
round to."  My son calls one day and says the front wheel fell off as he 
was turning out of the school parking lot onto the street.  Sho nuff it 
did, the upper ball joint broke/snapped right out of the control arm.  
$80 tow home, then a few days of front-end rebuild in the rain and other 
unpleasantness.


I suggest you tend to that symptom ASAP.

--R

[MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild

[Ralph W]

My pump in the '83 coupe is leaking out the shaft. Anyone done this rebuild? Is 
it as simple as getting a pully puller and pulling the pully and replacing a 
seal. I have an old spare pump but this is the second leaky pump I've 
encountered and would like a long term fix if it's easy to do. TIA

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Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD

[Ralph W]

I'm pretty sure it was late '81 when  MB added the turbo. Definitely 
available in '82. I had an '81 parts coupe which I drove around a bit before 
parting out. It actually wasn't too bad. Nothing like a 240! If this one is 
rust free and has a straight body and the mileage is accurate it would be 
worth the garage queen treatment. I love mine but the body has been through 
several accidents making it unworthy of collector status.


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'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD
- Original Message - 
From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD



A 79 would be non turbo-right? When was the first turbo CD?
This is tempting.
Dwight

Re: [MBZ] german grammar

[Jim Cathey]

"Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer"
This is perfectly correct. "Ich gehe" means simply "I go" and is not
specific whether I fly, drive, walk or whatever.


Was this always true?  Or is it language drift?  I'm just
wondering where my teacher's STRONG opinion on this came
from.  Gehe was going, implied walking.  Fahre was traveling,
implied not walking.  (To simplify.)  Was the difference the
nuance of the amount of trouble/expense one was going to?

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

[Peter Frederick]

It causes smog -- that nasty soup of chemicals produced by the 
oxidation of unburned hydrocarbons by ozone.  Some of this stuff (if 
not all), collects as water based microdroplets, and can also then dry 
into particulate matter.  Add in the soot from diesels and the dust 
from gassers, fly ash from un-treated power plants (nearly all of them, 
by the way), and you have some really horrible stuff that is fully 
"breathable" -- fine enough to go right past all your lung defenses 
into the bronchia and air sacs.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

[ernest breakfield]

they all help to delete something disinteresting?   ;-)


cheers!
e


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Taking Digest #129 as one glowing example, there were five posts out of 
nineteen using the subject line "OkieQ Dates".


Three by Rentfro, one each by Cathey and McCann. Not one of them had anything 
to do with the subject line.


Tell me again how sorting these by any of the suggested methods would solve 
the problem. Which I admit concerns no one but me anyway.


RLE
  

Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

[ernest breakfield]

what i keep hearing is that there's a hole in the Ozone Layer; different 
than Ground-Level Ozone described here.


   what i'm still curious about is how GL Ozone would be involved in 
the formation of Particulate Matter,...?



cheers!
e


R A Bennell wrote:

Hey I'm not a chemist or whatever one might need to be, but don't they keep 
telling us there is a shortage of
ozone??

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ernest breakfield
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance
fordiesel engine NOx controls


huh?
i had a little difficulty with this one line:
"NOx is a primary component of ground-level ozone, the nation's leading
air pollution threat, and is also a precursor pollutant in the formation
of fine particulate matter, or soot..."

sounds like they're trying to say particulate matter is caused by
some reaction with NOx. am i misinterpreting this, or how's that work?


cheers!
e



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

   This Greenwire story was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   [1]Greenwire
   An E&E Publishing Service

Greenwire -- Friday, March 30, 2007

AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance for diesel engine NOx controls

Daniel Cusick, Greenwire reporter

   Tens of millions of tons of diesel fuel pollution, including nitrogen oxides
   (NOx) and particulate matter, could be reduced under new U.S. EPA guidance
   that allows automakers to install selective catalyst reduction (SCR)
   technology on diesel-powered cars and trucks, the agency said today.

   The [2]guidance, issued this week in a 10-page memo from Karl J. Simon,
   EPA's acting compliance and innovative director, to automakers, will help
   manufacturers comply with tough new emissions standards for NOx emitted from
   diesel engines.

   The standard, set at 0.20 grams of NOx per brake horsepower-hour, is being
   phased in between model years 2007 to 2010, according to EPA. NOx is a
   primary component of ground-level ozone, the nation's leading air pollution
   threat, and is also a precursor pollutant in the formation of fine
   particulate matter, or soot, that affects millions with asthma, bronchitis
   or other lung ailments.

   Since EPA published its diesel engine NOx standard in 2001, engine makers
   have experimented with a variety of technologies to control the pollutant.
   Selective catalytic reduction, which is already widely used to control NOx
   from area source emitters such as industrial plants, ultimately won favor
   with EPA and manufacturers because it can achieve as high as 90 percent
   reductions in NOx.

   In a release, EPA said the new guidance on emission certification procedures
   for on-road diesel engines using SCR technology "helps pave the way for
   putting more innovative and fuel-efficient clean diesel cars and trucks on
   America's roads."

   While endorsing the move toward greater use of SCR on diesel engines, Simon
   noted that the technology "is still evolving" and added that EPA "reserves
   the right to make any necessary changes" to the guidance as conditions
   warrant.

   One concern about SCR's use in motor vehicle engines is that the technology
   requires regular replenishment of a NOx reducing agent, usually ammonia or
   urea, to be effective. If an engine were to run out of its reducing agent
   while in use, its NOx reduction capability would drop to zero, according to
   EPA.

   "Because the NOx efficiency and thus the NOx emissions performance of an SCR
   system is so dependent upon a nitrogen-containing reducing agent, it is
   critical than a vehicle using SCR never operate without the reducing agent,"
   Simon wrote in the guidance letter.

   Yet many manufacturers have warned that they would not be able to store
   sufficient volumes of ammonia or urea on a motor vehicle to allow for
   federally recommended maintenance intervals of between 100,000 and 150,000
   miles.

   As such, "It may be appropriate for EPA to approve an industry-wide
   scheduled maintenance change, as we have done previously in similar
   situations," the guidance states.

   Manufacturers will need to gain approval for their SCR strategies as part of
   the EPA certification process. Among the other requirements for
   certification are driver warning systems and inducement measures, a track
   record of system durability and reliability, and reducing agent quality and
   availability, EPA said.

   Diesel engine manufacturers, represented by the Diesel Technology Forum,
   have assured that all new engines being produced for highway use will meet
   EPA's air pollution standards, including for NOx and particulate matter.

   In January, the group announced that all new big rigs are equipped with
   innovative new PM-trapping filters and that NOx emissions have also been
   significantly cut due to improved technolog

Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

[andrew strasfogel]

The earth's PROTECTIVE ozone layer is thinning - this is a big problem

Ground level ozone (smog) is a BAD thing - burns the eyes, irritant, etc.

On 3/30/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey I'm not a chemist or whatever one might need to be, but don't they keep 
telling us there is a shortage of
ozone??

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ernest breakfield
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance
fordiesel engine NOx controls


huh?
i had a little difficulty with this one line:
"NOx is a primary component of ground-level ozone, the nation's leading
air pollution threat, and is also a precursor pollutant in the formation
of fine particulate matter, or soot..."

sounds like they're trying to say particulate matter is caused by
some reaction with NOx. am i misinterpreting this, or how's that work?


cheers!
e



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>This Greenwire story was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>[1]Greenwire
>An E&E Publishing Service
>
> Greenwire -- Friday, March 30, 2007
>
> AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance for diesel engine NOx controls
>
> Daniel Cusick, Greenwire reporter
>
>Tens of millions of tons of diesel fuel pollution, including nitrogen 
oxides
>(NOx) and particulate matter, could be reduced under new U.S. EPA guidance
>that allows automakers to install selective catalyst reduction (SCR)
>technology on diesel-powered cars and trucks, the agency said today.
>
>The [2]guidance, issued this week in a 10-page memo from Karl J. Simon,
>EPA's acting compliance and innovative director, to automakers, will help
>manufacturers comply with tough new emissions standards for NOx emitted 
from
>diesel engines.
>
>The standard, set at 0.20 grams of NOx per brake horsepower-hour, is being
>phased in between model years 2007 to 2010, according to EPA. NOx is a
>primary component of ground-level ozone, the nation's leading air pollution
>threat, and is also a precursor pollutant in the formation of fine
>particulate matter, or soot, that affects millions with asthma, bronchitis
>or other lung ailments.
>
>Since EPA published its diesel engine NOx standard in 2001, engine makers
>have experimented with a variety of technologies to control the pollutant.
>Selective catalytic reduction, which is already widely used to control NOx
>from area source emitters such as industrial plants, ultimately won favor
>with EPA and manufacturers because it can achieve as high as 90 percent
>reductions in NOx.
>
>In a release, EPA said the new guidance on emission certification 
procedures
>for on-road diesel engines using SCR technology "helps pave the way for
>putting more innovative and fuel-efficient clean diesel cars and trucks on
>America's roads."
>
>While endorsing the move toward greater use of SCR on diesel engines, Simon
>noted that the technology "is still evolving" and added that EPA "reserves
>the right to make any necessary changes" to the guidance as conditions
>warrant.
>
>One concern about SCR's use in motor vehicle engines is that the technology
>requires regular replenishment of a NOx reducing agent, usually ammonia or
>urea, to be effective. If an engine were to run out of its reducing agent
>while in use, its NOx reduction capability would drop to zero, according to
>EPA.
>
>"Because the NOx efficiency and thus the NOx emissions performance of an 
SCR
>system is so dependent upon a nitrogen-containing reducing agent, it is
>critical than a vehicle using SCR never operate without the reducing 
agent,"
>Simon wrote in the guidance letter.
>
>Yet many manufacturers have warned that they would not be able to store
>sufficient volumes of ammonia or urea on a motor vehicle to allow for
>federally recommended maintenance intervals of between 100,000 and 150,000
>miles.
>
>As such, "It may be appropriate for EPA to approve an industry-wide
>scheduled maintenance change, as we have done previously in similar
>situations," the guidance states.
>
>Manufacturers will need to gain approval for their SCR strategies as part 
of
>the EPA certification process. Among the other requirements for
>certification are driver warning systems and inducement measures, a track
>record of system durability and reliability, and reducing agent quality and
>availability, EPA said.
>
>Diesel engine manufacturers, represented by the Diesel Technology Forum,
>have assured that all new engines being produced for highway use will meet
>EPA's air pollution standards, including for NOx and particulate matter.
>
>In January, the group announced that all new big rigs are equipped with
>innovative new PM-trapping filters and tha

Re: [MBZ] New German diesels get poor marks for Green ness

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

Try here: http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/motornews.shtml
Notice it's a 'mercan group, still with their heads buried in the sand 
about emissions. I would imagine that if the same study were done in the 
UK or Europe, the results would be drastically different by their standards.


---Robert

Zoltan Finks wrote:

I don't have an internet link, but I saw on TV (Motorweek) in their news
segment that on the list of "meanest" (as opposed to "greenest") vehicles
were the VW Taureg TDI as number 1, and a Mercedes SUV CDI as number 2. And
there were three other diesels in the top ten "meanest", environment-hating
vehicles.

Surprised me - wonder why these diesels' gasser counterparts wouldn't be
considered more polluting than them. I guess the increased fuel efficiency
does not offset the higher-polluting qualities of the frothy stuff.

Brian
whose 83 240D started *immediateley* after sitting the winter through (new
glow plugs last night)
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Re: [MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

[Peter Frederick]

Six, there was never, to my knowledge, a 2.8L four from Benz, 2.4 was 
the largest, and only in a diesel.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

[Zoltan Finks]

I really wonder too. I want it.

Is the 280 a 2.8 four cyl., or a six cyl.?

Did those come with a fire extinguisher under front seat in Europe, or did
someone install that?

Brian


On 3/31/07, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Rick Knoble wrote:
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/301778505.html

Wow.  This car seems to be more "black market" than "gray market."
Doesn't appear to have a DOT tag in the door jamb, metric
instrumentation, fire extinguisher still under the seat.  Very cool.
Wonder what its story is.

Probably well worth the asking price; a shame I've already got plenty of
rusty 123s already.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:52:24 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My weakness is green peppers and chili peppers -- I grew up in an
> Italian neighborhood (coal miners) in WV.

How about Habañeros, which even Wal-Mart stocks here in New Mexico?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] whole bunch or no reserve pismos on ebay

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:34:14 -0400 "andrew strasfogel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If Pismo were PISMO and was a DOD acronym, what would it stand for?  LT
> Don - any ideas?

Portable Information System, Man Operated


Craig

[MBZ] New German diesels get poor marks for Green ness

[Zoltan Finks]

I don't have an internet link, but I saw on TV (Motorweek) in their news
segment that on the list of "meanest" (as opposed to "greenest") vehicles
were the VW Taureg TDI as number 1, and a Mercedes SUV CDI as number 2. And
there were three other diesels in the top ten "meanest", environment-hating
vehicles.

Surprised me - wonder why these diesels' gasser counterparts wouldn't be
considered more polluting than them. I guess the increased fuel efficiency
does not offset the higher-polluting qualities of the frothy stuff.

Brian
whose 83 240D started *immediateley* after sitting the winter through (new
glow plugs last night)

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[LarryT]

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> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:00:41 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> That is in the air conditioning section, I think.
>> 
>> On 3/30/07, Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Rick,
>> > But those are the Engine Compartment Diagrams.
>> > I need the one for the Cabin.
> 
> I sent a ZIP file of all of my vacuum system information last night, but
> since it's 607 k, it's awaiting Kaleb's approval.
> 
> Here is a diagram of the cabin vacuum system.
> 
> 
> Craig
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:14:01 -0500 "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> "Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer"
> This is perfectly correct. "Ich gehe" means simply "I go" and is not
> specific whether I fly, drive, walk or whatever.
> Or one could also say:
> "Ich werde auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer gehen"
> Now the verb is at the end.

And now it says, "I will go," instead of, "I go," ...


Craig

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates - german grammar

[Hans Neureiter]

"Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer"
This is perfectly correct. "Ich gehe" means simply "I go" and is not
specific whether I fly, drive, walk or whatever.
Or one could also say:
"Ich werde auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer gehen"
Now the verb is at the end.

On 3/30/07, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think you can use gehen in this case...fahren would probably be more accurate.

When you use a modal verb, the secondary verb, in the infinitive, is placed at 
the end of the sentence.

SO - I can (a verb) drive (a verb) a Mercedes.

Ich kann ein Mercedes fahren.

Not sure about other situations where verbs get moved to the end of the 
sentence.

CM




Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone 
Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer.

IIRC my HS German teacher would have had a fit with that, something
about "gehe" implying that you were going to walk there.  "Fahre",
if you were traveling by machinery.  Of course, he was rather old-
school high German, and the texts we had were about WW2 vintage
and still used black letter forms.  Long s's and the like.  Oh,
and oughtn't the verb come at the end?  Man, it's been a long time.

My parents' pickelhaube fit him, looked like he was made for it too.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:18:45 -0600 Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> If you want, I can spend some time correcting the diagram, but the basic
> idea is already there.

I opened up my shop manuals and found the information in Section 80,
Central locking system, comfort hydraulics, in Volume 2 of the Service
Manual, Chassis and Body, Series 123 (not in the A/C manual).

For the 123.1 chassis, the only problem with the diagram I sent was that
the "Unlocking" and "Locking" labels on the schematic were reversed. The
diagram I sent (which I got off the Internet) was apparently a colorized
version of the diagram found in the manual. The corrected version is
attached. What's confusing is the way Mercedes drew the linkage that
connects to the door safety knob (button); pulling a vacuum on the upper
chamber of a door element should make the button go down, not up as the
linkage drawn shows.

I also found a note in the manual that says that the connections to the
master vacuum switch are reversed for the Coupe, in case you're
interested.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:58:44 -0600 Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I sent a ZIP file of all of my vacuum system information last night, but
> since it's 607 k, it's awaiting Kaleb's approval.
> 
> Here is a diagram of the cabin vacuum system.

I just took a good look at it and noticed that there appear to be some
errors in it. The two pictures of the master switch in the lower right
are labeled correctly (I still haven't put the inside door panel back
on since I removed it to replace the driver's door gasket). The labels
"Unlocking" and "Locking" in the top schematic, however, seem to be
reversed, as do the blue and muddy green connections to all of the
door elements. I believe the no-vacuum-fail condition of the gas tank
element is open, that it requires vacuum to lock the fuel door.

If you want, I can spend some time correcting the diagram, but the basic
idea is already there.


Craig

P.S. Kaleb, don't approve the large message; it contains the same errors.

Re: [MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

[tom savage]

Rick Knoble wrote:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/301778505.html


Wow.  This car seems to be more "black market" than "gray market." 
Doesn't appear to have a DOT tag in the door jamb, metric 
instrumentation, fire extinguisher still under the seat.  Very cool. 
Wonder what its story is.


Probably well worth the asking price; a shame I've already got plenty of 
rusty 123s already.


Tom

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:00:41 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That is in the air conditioning section, I think.
> 
> On 3/30/07, Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Rick,
> > But those are the Engine Compartment Diagrams.
> > I need the one for the Cabin.

I sent a ZIP file of all of my vacuum system information last night, but
since it's 607 k, it's awaiting Kaleb's approval.

Here is a diagram of the cabin vacuum system.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

A 79 would be non turbo-right? When was the first turbo CD?
This is tempting. 
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI
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That's a STEAL!  Fix/shine/clean it up and it'll bring 6k plus on ePay

Luther


On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:16:13 -0600, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/303218942.html
>
> any takers?  I'll check it out for anyone.
>



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'82 300CD (163 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine
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Re: [MBZ] M1 15W-50 at Costco

[LarryT]

Allan wrote:<
recommendations -- not Mobil's -- for oil weight>>


Exactly Allan, well said - Mobil's priority is to sell oil not worrying 
about old cars like ours.


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"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


The old 911 needs the heavier M1 - 15W50 preferably.  0W40 works for
'90-present but before that the tolerances are just not tight enough. 
The

M1 website recommends 0W40 for all the Porsches regardless of year.


I'd say use the Mobil-1, but follow your owner's manual
recommendations -- not Mobil's -- for oil weight.

Allan
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[MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[Dan Steadman]

Russ,
  Attached are the diagrams in PDF format with a troubleshooting guide.
  Please suggest any changes or corrections.
   
  Regards,
  Dan Steadman
  1980 300D
  1980 300TD
   
   
   
   Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi Gang,
> 
> Anybody have the PDF of the Vacuum Diagram for the 123 body.
> I'm try to track down a massive leak on a buddies 84 300D.
> I thought I had a diagram but can't find it. And the only CD
> I have is for the 126 body.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Russ W.
> 83 240D x2
> 


 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[LT Don]

That is in the air conditioning section, I think.

On 3/30/07, Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks Rick,
But those are the Engine Compartment Diagrams.
I need the one for the Cabin.

Russ W.





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Re: [MBZ] quick question bout '88 E300??

[E M]

Thanks Craig.  I think the car may have had a little paint "blow'n in" to
cover some stone chips, but I can't find any sign of damage due to an
accident.  I ended up buying it anyway.  :-)
Ed

On 30/03/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:37:16 -0500 "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
>
> Was the crossmember under the front hood, on top of the rad factory
> painted to match the exterior?

On every MB I've seen, yes.


> Also, were the inside bolts holding on the finders painted over?

Yes.


> The car I'm looking at looks very clean and straight, and no masking or
> overspray on any of the decals on the corss memeber, but the small
> rubber hood stops on either side of the cross memeber are painted?  Is
> that factory???

I don't believe so.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

[Bob Rentfro]

I will make an effort to watch my subject line.

Rentfro

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Taking Digest #129 as one glowing example, there were five posts out of
nineteen using the subject line "OkieQ Dates".

Three by Rentfro, one each by Cathey and McCann. Not one of them had 
anything

to do with the subject line.

Tell me again how sorting these by any of the suggested methods would 
solve

the problem. Which I admit concerns no one but me anyway.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

[Bob Rentfro]

10-4


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April 12-20th. I dunno how my work schedule will go but drop me a note if 
you can get out.


-Curt

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you're
in town I will look you up.

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Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:15:48 -0700 Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know it needs lots of front end work, 'cause it chews through tires at
> an alarming rate (inners wear really quickly). 

An alignment might help enough to make it tolerable.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:59:49 -0500 Russ Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Gang,
> 
> Anybody have the PDF of the Vacuum Diagram for the 123 body.
> I'm try to track down a massive leak on a buddies 84 300D.
> I thought I had a diagram but can't find it. And the only CD
> I have is for the 126 body.

I don't have a PDF, but I've got lots of nifty pictures and descriptions
in the attached ZIP file.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] quick question bout '88 E300??

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:37:16 -0500 "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
> 
> Was the crossmember under the front hood, on top of the rad factory
> painted to match the exterior?

On every MB I've seen, yes.


> Also, were the inside bolts holding on the finders painted over? 

Yes.


> The car I'm looking at looks very clean and straight, and no masking or
> overspray on any of the decals on the corss memeber, but the small
> rubber hood stops on either side of the cross memeber are painted?  Is
> that factory??? 

I don't believe so.



Craig

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

[Russ Williams]

Thanks Rick,
But those are the Engine Compartment Diagrams.
I need the one for the Cabin.

Russ W.

Rick Knoble wrote:

Hi Gang,

Anybody have the PDF of the Vacuum Diagram for the 123 body.
I'm try to track down a massive leak on a buddies 84 300D.



Yeah. Click this link and then click on Vacuum Schematics...
http://www.peterschmid.com/

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery, season finale

[Jim Cathey]

There's still a lot of stud noise.  I'm starting to wonder if it's
creeping in around the semi-loose window, or worse yet, channeling up
through the door to the window from the big rusty holes in the bottom.
Will try sealing the glass in its channel.  But tomorrow is the last
day I can legally drive on studs, and I no longer have a usable set of
non-studded tires for it.  I'm not planning to buy any, either!  I'd
better get busy.

So I had a close look at the window, and the outer lip of the rearward
window channel liner (right by my ear) was pretty much gone.  I took
some tin snips and cut off a long narrow strip of foam rubber from one
of the dead weatherstrips I removed yesterday.  (From one of the
better sections.)  I glued this in the window channel in place of what
was missing.  (Probably fabric, originally.)  While that was drying I
noted that the outside glass wipe strip was very bad as well, so I
removed the aluminized trim strip and pried off the wipe.  It was very
rusty and decomposed.  The top lip of the door's window opening was
also getting very rusty, so I wire brushed it, masked it off, and
rattle-canned it gray.  I set up a radiant heater to help it dry.  The
fuzz on the wipe I removed was mostly still there, but peeled back
from its proper spot.  I used weatherstrip cement to glue it back into
place.  This won't really last, since the fuzz is decomposing and the
wraparound cloth that it used to be attached to that held it in place
is gone, but it should be better than it was, at least for awhile.  I
can always glue on a foam strip later.  (Or better yet, find a good
used wipe to replace it with.)

I wire-brushed off the worst of the rust on the wipe's metal spine and
painted it black to try to slow down the general decomposition in the
area.  I put it in the oven to dry, I don't really want the paint on
it to fuse with the paint on the door!

The wipe and trim strip installed uneventfully, except for the wasp
that was living under the scrap wood I was going to use to drive the
wipe back on.  Fortunately he was cold.  The window goes up and down
rather stiffly, the foam strip may be a bit too thick.  Oh well!

...Yeah, that got it.  Now I can hear the skritching from the other
side of the car, whereas before it was masked.  Good, just in time.  I
filled the car on the way home, it got 30.5 MPG this last
most-of-a-tank, it was probably summer fuel and of course there is the
thermostatic fan clutch to help out...  I wanted to put it away with a
full tank to minimize water buildup.  Mission accomplished.  I parked
it down below in storage and emptied it of everything, then popped the
hood and opened the battery cutoff switch.  I boxed up the good used
weatherstrips in the trunk, and threw the nasty old ones in loose.  (I
may want to cut some more filler pieces from them.)  I put the
burned-out fog light bulb in the trunk too, it'll have to wait until
next time.  I put the rear window heater in the trunk, it won't melt
in the hot summer sun that way.  I hope.

It's ready to wait out the time until next winter.  On to the 450 SL.
I need to get it out and start driving it to work.  I can park it on
the very busy intersection where I work and hang for-sale signs in it.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD

[Luther]

That's a STEAL!  Fix/shine/clean it up and it'll bring 6k plus on ePay

Luther


On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:16:13 -0600, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/303218942.html
>
> any takers?  I'll check it out for anyone.
>



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'83 300SD (242 kmi) for sale
'82 300CD (163 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine
'85 300D (280,176) parts car

Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

[Scott Ritchey]

The vacuum diagrams in the shop manual (see 80-260 and 80-900/901) are
pretty good.  Get a mitivac and a couple of golf tees.  Then lift the carpet
under the passenger's feet and check the circuits one at a time against the
diagram.  As I recall, all the circuits except the left rear door lock can
be checked there.  The other possibility is a leak or bad check valve under
the hood just above the oil filter housing.  Other good stuff to have on
hand are a couple of spare rubber "Y" couplers and "X" couplers and
especially some rubber hose.  A leaky vacuum storage tank takes patience
because it takes a lot of pumping to build up any vacuum so a leak also
bleeds down slowly.

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Subject: [MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

So, my el cheapo '84 300D has become a hot commodity for our 21 yr old
daughter who recently had her parked Volvo 7-series totalled by an
inattentive driver down in San Diego.   This car has been driven almost
daily by my wife, but has been severely neglected by me, due to its
unfortunate penchant for utter reliability, and my disdain for working on
the 123 chassis.  I know it needs lots of front end work, 'cause it chews
through tires at an alarming rate (inners wear really quickly).  And, the
doorlocks and IP shutoff are slow to respond, if at all.

My daughter is flying up on the 2nd, so I have very little time to diagnose
and treat.  Are there any readily available reference materials out there
for fixing a vacuum leak in the door/shutoff circuit?  Any obvious leakage
points I should address first and foremost?   I recently replaced the
driver's door vacuum switch.

TIA
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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

[Mitch Haley]

LT Don wrote:
> 
> Don't even ask me about zucchini!

The late Erma Bombeck suggested having the kids play softball with
the excess zukes. (use the zukes for bats)

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] $2500 TD

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

The old-"Only needs a starter" ploy
My .02
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI
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> A 300TD with a trunk?

Just another fool that thinks 'T' is for turbo.
"My car has a turbo.  I think.  Stupid factory
forgot to put on the right badge...  Can't wait
to sell it and buy that Yugo I always wanted."

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

[OK Don]

By reading the posts in sequence, you see the topic change from the
date/location to when good food is available, to quantities of
tomatoes, etc. to which varieties to grow, back to holding the party
during harvest instead of early June, etc.

I guess the posts don't seem quite as random and disconnected from the
subject line as they did when I was reading the digest.


On 3/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Taking Digest #129 as one glowing example, there were five posts out of
nineteen using the subject line "OkieQ Dates".

Three by Rentfro, one each by Cathey and McCann. Not one of them had anything
to do with the subject line.

Tell me again how sorting these by any of the suggested methods would solve
the problem. Which I admit concerns no one but me anyway.

RLE

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[MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

[Zeitgeist]

So, my el cheapo '84 300D has become a hot commodity for our 21 yr old
daughter who recently had her parked Volvo 7-series totalled by an
inattentive driver down in San Diego.   This car has been driven almost
daily by my wife, but has been severely neglected by me, due to its
unfortunate penchant for utter reliability, and my disdain for working on
the 123 chassis.  I know it needs lots of front end work, 'cause it chews
through tires at an alarming rate (inners wear really quickly).  And, the
doorlocks and IP shutoff are slow to respond, if at all.

My daughter is flying up on the 2nd, so I have very little time to diagnose
and treat.  Are there any readily available reference materials out there
for fixing a vacuum leak in the door/shutoff circuit?  Any obvious leakage
points I should address first and foremost?   I recently replaced the
driver's door vacuum switch.

TIA

Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

[RELNGSON]

Taking Digest #129 as one glowing example, there were five posts out of 
nineteen using the subject line "OkieQ Dates".

Three by Rentfro, one each by Cathey and McCann. Not one of them had anything 
to do with the subject line.

Tell me again how sorting these by any of the suggested methods would solve 
the problem. Which I admit concerns no one but me anyway.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

[Curt Raymond]

April 12-20th. I dunno how my work schedule will go but drop me a note if you 
can get out.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:56:32 -0700
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When are you going to be there?
We sneak up for a day or two from time to time. If we're in town when 
you're 
in town I will look you up.

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Or appeased

chamberlain and all that nazi nonsense

On Mar 30, 2007, at 6:27 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

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>
> I was only aware of SWMBO (O=obeyed)
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[MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

[Rick Knoble]

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/301778505.html

Surely someone on this list needs this
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The conversations are a lot easier to follow -- and using a gmail
account for only this list keeps it all together in one place and
keeps the family email clear of the traffic - just an easy way to
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Re: [MBZ] 911 erl

[RELNGSON]

> < '90-present but before that the tolerances are just not tight enough. The M1 
> website recommends 0W40 for all the Porsches regardless of year.
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions or comments ->>
> 
My question is, where does this recommendation come from? Porsche issued a 
service bulletin years ago recommending M1 0W40 in every one of their engines 
back to 1973.5. Which was the first year for CIS in the 911T.

RLE
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