Re: [MBZ] Cheap tires
My daughters new GL320cdi suv came with Continentals. I thought all new MBs came with Continentals. Gerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So you want some cheap tires? My neighbor across the street, took in lieu of payment in a business debt the debtor's two cars. One is an '06 Jag convertible and the other a '99 Porsche 996 Cab. I was sniffing around the Arena Red Porsche and was gobsmacked when I looked at the new tires. Nankang made in Taiwan! Something like 235/30-18s on the front and the cost is around 70 bucks each which is probably about one third or less of any recognized brand. I don't think he's noticed, yet. Question is, has NHSTA noticed. On another tire note, I have informed the new car manager at Phil Smart MB in Seattle that my new C300, due in about ninety days, had damned well better not have Continental tires on it. I don't want Michelins, either, but of the two. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tranny??
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know many of you say a W123 diesel will go pretty much forever, but what about the average auto trans in a W123? How many miles are they good for if well taken care of, and on the flipside, at what mileage do problems start to show up in examples that haven't been so well loved? -- They can suffer the B-2 piston failure (mine did). Not a bad repair, really -- it can be done with the tranny in the car, although it's tight. Other than that I have had no trouble with mine, at 175K Miles. Allan 1983 300D 1966 230 --- 260,000 and still improving several years after switching to Mobil 1 ATF. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap tires
On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On another tire note, I have informed the new car manager at Phil Smart MB in Seattle that my new C300, due in about ninety days, had damned well better not have Continental tires on it. I don't want Michelins, either, but of the two. Oddly up here in the pacific NW when the dealer hands me the keys to the B200 loaner it has Continental SUMMER tires on it. I really have to wonder what's going to happen when winter and some snow arrives. Perhaps they'll smile and tell all the new owners oh we've a deal on winter tires and steel rims for you... John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 193k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New Outback
Zoltan Finks wrote: The point is I have an appreciation for those atomic cockroaches. Remember the Honey Bee? My only problem with the B210 is that a neighbor had two, and they both rusted out the frame rail where the steering gearbox attached to the car. Not good. I think I'd rather have the have a 1200. If I had to be seen in the car, I think I'd take a B210 over an F10, which looked like a Renault Gordini on hallucinogens. BTW, I've seen not one, but two rust free 1600 roadsters in MI this year. I used to see them around campus 25 years ago in severe states of decay, but hadn't seen one for at least a decade before this year. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines
Hello Scott, I changed the metal brake lines and the rubber hoses, calipers, rotors, etc last weekend on my 91 W124. I used 3 flare nut wrenches IIRC - 17mm 13mm for the rubber to metal connection at the chassis a 13mm where the rubber hose connects to the caliper. I bought a 5 pc set of Craftsman flare nut wrenches from Sears not long ago for around $30 I believe. IIRC they were on sale. It's getting extremely hard to buy stuff that is not made in China - thankfully the Craftsman stuff is US made and high quality - Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines I second this suggestion. This is one place that you want a good quality flare nut wrench. I had some cheapies (Whitney or Harbor ... don't recall) that would round off the nuts like an open-end wrench. Then I got a good US-made flare-nut wrench and had no problems since. Since you only need one or two sizes (not a whole set) even a great wrench is not so costly. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 20:56 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines Be sure to get a set of flare nut wrenches (metric, of course) before you start in on this stuff. Regular box-end wrenches will chew up the fittings. Dan Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 4:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Atomic cockroach
It's been so long since that car was around that it was very possible we got the description from CD. It was a favorite magazine for us back in the day, especially when P.J. O'Rourke was writing reviews. Who can forget his classic comment about the back seat space in an Aston Martin being Only big enough for Thalidomide babies. Dan Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL head RR adventure
Luther wrote: Sooo, I finally got the proper tool and removed the timing chain rail pins. Finished removing the head and flipped it over to check for cracks. NONE are visible. GRRR. My understanding is that not all cracks are visible to the naked eye. Take it to a machine shop and get it tested if you'd like. I think the procedure might be called Magnaflux? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL head RR adventure
John Robbins wrote: Luther wrote: Sooo, I finally got the proper tool and removed the timing chain rail pins. Finished removing the head and flipped it over to check for cracks. NONE are visible. GRRR. My understanding is that not all cracks are visible to the naked eye. Take it to a machine shop and get it tested if you'd like. I think the procedure might be called Magnaflux? You can't Magnafux an aluminum head. It must be pressure tested (few shops have the setup) and Mercedes admits that some heads that test fine will still be cracked and will leak under normal conditions. The ONLY test that's reliable is putting the head on and getting the engine up to near coolant boiling temperature. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] valve clearances?
Sorry for the FAQ... What are the proper cold intake and exhaust clearance measurements for the OM-617? Also is a new valve cover gasket necessary each time this job is done? Thanks, Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL head RR adventure
Check for flatness -- I'd bet the head is warped in that area. I didn't find any cracks on my -14- head either, and it still leaks compression (not oil) into the coolant. Once I get the rebuilt head I got of eBay repaired again (all the valves are undersize and rattle in the guides, which I'm sure are way oversize), I'll do the swap. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Atomic cockroach
Obviously the didn't DRIVE one before issuing this characterization a '55' Chevy rolls like an ocean liner, wallows on braking, and has a rear axle located by a pair of very soft leaf springs.. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] anyone need a nice 4x4?
Listing this for Gene, my brother-in-law. With John's 190D added to the stable, he has one vehicle too many. KBB private party is $5950, buy-it-now of $4500. Reserve is a couple hundred dollars under buy-it-now. Warning: fuel economy isn't this vehicle's best feature! *http://tinyurl.com/2x8kry* -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve clearances?
Allan Streib wrote: Sorry for the FAQ... What are the proper cold intake and exhaust clearance measurements for the OM-617? Also is a new valve cover gasket necessary each time this job is done? Thanks, Allan Depends on whether it's a turbo or a non turbo engine. Intake 0.1 mm (0.004) or if temps below 0 F are anticipated 0.15 mm (0.006). Exhaust (turbo) 0.35 mm (0.014) non-turbo 0.3 mm (0.012). If the old gasket doesn't leak at the proper torque setting and isn't rock hard, gooey or cracking- go for it. If it leaks, then a new one is necessary. All of mine are 20+ years old and still don't leak. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying Alaska by Super Cub
Thanks for that link. A well spent 30 minutes on Sunday morning... Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jul 14, 2007, at 8:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://shaunlunt.typepad.com/shootings/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Atomic cockroach
LWB250 wrote: Who can forget his classic comment about the back seat space in an Aston Martin being Only big enough for Thalidomide babies. I like this one: There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women. Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. And then there's his masterwork on drunk driving in a Mercedes: http://www.heretical.com/miscella/reptile.html Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying Alaska by Super Cub
--- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that link. A well spent 30 minutes on Sunday morning... Yeah, that was cool. Reminded me of some of my travels in the far reaches of Alaska. Having spent some time out in the Aleutians, I enjoyed his comment about the weather. It truly changes on a minute-by-minue basis. More airplanes in Alaska than there are cars... Dan Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve clearances?
Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends on whether it's a turbo or a non turbo engine. Turbo. My '83 300D Intake 0.1 mm (0.004) or if temps below 0 F are anticipated 0.15 mm (0.006). Exhaust (turbo) 0.35 mm (0.014) non-turbo 0.3 mm (0.012). So, 0.10 mm intake, 0.35 mm exhaust. Thanks. If the old gasket doesn't leak at the proper torque setting and isn't rock hard, gooey or cracking- go for it. If it leaks, then a new one is necessary. All of mine are 20+ years old and still don't leak. I replaced the gasket last time, so it shouldn't be hard or cracked yet. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Drats! W115 Neutral start interlock failed
Hi all, I'm still here, and the neutral start interlock relay on the 74 2040D 4-speed is misbehaving and the starter can't be engaged. There is no audible click when neutral is selected like there should be. The switch mechanism on the shifter appears to be ok, that's why I think it's the relay. Unlike the 75 W115, there is no relay reset button (that I can find) in the engine compartment. Can anyone tell me how to reset the relay (and where it is in case I am looking at the wrong device) or shunt it so I can start the car? TIA, and apologies for never posting anything except when I have a problem! I will post the outcome of replacing the IP on the 82 300CD shortly (good news story). Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 348kmi 'His' 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen' 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu' - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124, R12 v R134
Like I said before, in the refrigeration cycle, each element plays a vital role in the COP (coefficient of performance). Although the expansion valve seems like on of the less significant parts of the system when compared to the compressor, evaporator and condenser, it plays a main role in the refrigeration cycle. As I'm sure you already know the compressor compresses the vapor which is then turned completely into liquid by removal of all superheated vapor in the condenser. From there, the liquid refrigerant travels through the expansion valve, whereby the pressure decreases rapidly causing a sharp decrease in temperature. During this phase of the thermodynamic cycle, vaporization of the liquid refrigerant also occurs, resulting in a liquid-vapor mix which is then passed through the evaporator. When the warm air passing by the evaporator is cooled, the refrigerant (in a liquid-vapor state) then evaporates completely into a vapor. From here, the refrigeration cycle repeats with the compressor where the vapor refrigerant is then compressed again and turned into liquid (after passing through the condenser). Although there is no physical example of an ideal or 'Carnot' cycle, the refrigeration cycle experiences the most thermodynamic irreversibility of any thermodynamic cycle (when compared to other power cycles). Thermodynamic irreversibility occurs in all real thermodynamic cycles and the refrigeration cycles experiences most of these in the compression phase of the refrigerant. In addition, frictional losses experienced through the elements and piping of the system can have a great impact on pressure in the system, again resulting in slight decreases in efficiency. What you have to understand here is that the working fluid (refrigerant) is most effective when in liquid form. Therefore, an expansion valve not specifically designed for the system could be vaporizing more of the liquid refrigerant, resulting in a liquid-vapor mixture higher in vapor content. This means less efficient cooling once the mixture reaches the evaporator. In addition, due to the fact that the system was originally designed to use Dichlorodifluoromethane (R12), the thermodynamic cycle could be experiencing more thermodynamic irreversibility due to the differences in the thermodynamic properties of both fluids. It's been a while since my thermodynamics courses, so feel free to check me on some of this. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, R12 v R134 what other elements are different? Tarek Elshenawy wrote: It's due to the thermodynamic properties of both refrigerants. Regardless of part numbers, R12 and R134a systems are designed to run on R12 and R134a, respectively. When you convert an R12 system to R134a, it is simply not as efficient at cooling due to the differences in thermodynamic properties. Even if the evaporator and condenser have the same part number, there are other elements in the system that are different. SN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1980 300D
I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
Bill Condition is everything. The sale price can be insignificant compared to the cost of fixing major issues. So you need to know if it has problems that you would need to repair. Fixing the AC could be trivial or costly (this was an R-12 system). This car has the dreaded failure prone ACC servo (as I recall) that controls all heating and AC functions; these aren't cheap but you can jury rig a manual bypass for the water control function. But what about the motor and transmission, that's where the real big costs can be. I have a 70 300TD with over 350K miles that runs fine. This is a tough drivetrain but you can ruin it by overheating or bad maintenance. Bottom line ... could be a fine daily driver or a money pit. You need to get it checked out. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 16:21 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] C300
my new C300, due in about ninety days, Gas or Diesel? Had the Bluetec diesel been available, even at the $1000 premium, I would have given it serious consideration. But, it's not. Probably in a year or so when the direct injection gas engines show up. And, a diesel C this year would have put a serious dent in E class sales since the C is superior in every way to the existing E except for rear knee room. RLE ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OE tires
My daughters new GL320cdi suv came with Continentals. I thought all new MBs came with Continentals. Luck of the lowest-bidder draw. Other models use Michelins of some sort. RLE ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New Outback
Craig wondered: Atomic cockroach? I had nothing to do with that Bob R. Getting nukiefied for 22+ years ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] reifen
Oddly up here in the Pacific NW when the dealer hands me the keys to the B200 loaner it has Continental SUMMER tires on it. I really have to wonder what's going to happen when winter and some snow arrives. Perhaps they'll smile and tell all the new owners oh we've a deal on winter tires and steel rims for you... I don't know what a B200 is but MB's OE tires are all season which means they're not so good at anything. RLE ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Reifen
My daughters new GL320cdi suv came with Continentals. I thought all new MBs came with Continentals. Luck of the lowest-bidder draw. Other models use Michelins of some sort. RLE ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cracks
My understanding is that not all cracks are visible to the naked eye. Take it to a machine shop and get it tested if you'd like. I think the procedure might be called Magnaflux? Aluminum and magnesium can be dye-penetrant tested and there are some other probably more costly tests. A cylinder head probably isn't worth it but if one of your Space Shuttle landing gear struts was suspect, it might pay off. Decades ago I had a set of four American Mags (magnesium wheels) tested by X-Ray Inc. at Boeing field and three were cracked and unserviceable even though the cracks were not visible to the naked eye. The dye-penetrant test revealed them. RLE ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 55 Chev
Obviously they didn't DRIVE one before issuing this characterization a '55' Chevy rolls like an ocean liner, wallows on braking, and has a rear axle located by a pair of very soft leaf springs.. Just so happens I owned a '55 Bel Air 2D HTP 265 V8 back in the day and for the period it drove OK. Not like anything modern, of course. I would imagine a '55 MB sedan back then was a bit of a pig, too. RLE ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL pant pant?
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women. Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. Not if it had the single-row cam chain. RLE ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] reifen
On Jul 15, 2007, at 1:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what a B200 is but MB's OE tires are all season which means they're not so good at anything. RLE We being in Canada we get stuff way before the USA, perhaps as a trial run to see if they should bother with the not-invented here USA market. http://www.theanswerisb.ca/ The fact it comes with summer tires is interesting because it does snow up here and as you see http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp? tireMake=ContinentaltireModel=ContiSportContact+2 Those won't take you up the driveway on the first bit of snow. As mentioned earlier it had a CVT transmission hiding as a 7 speed tranny. You could bury the pedel and it would go to 6,500 rpm and sit there as it climbed to 70 mph on an onramp. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124, R12 v R134
Hi Tarek, I was reading your explanation of refrigeration and was thinking WOW! This is really easy to understand. Then you started on Carnot cycle and thermodynamic irreversibility and once again, I was lost, lost, lost. Oh well, it was a good start - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, R12 v R134 Like I said before, in the refrigeration cycle, each element plays a vital role in the COP (coefficient of performance). Although the expansion valve seems like on of the less significant parts of the system when compared to the compressor, evaporator and condenser, it plays a main role in the refrigeration cycle. As I'm sure you already know the compressor compresses the vapor which is then turned completely into liquid by removal of all superheated vapor in the condenser. From there, the liquid refrigerant travels through the expansion valve, whereby the pressure decreases rapidly causing a sharp decrease in temperature. During this phase of the thermodynamic cycle, vaporization of the liquid refrigerant also occurs, resulting in a liquid-vapor mix which is then passed through the evaporator. When the warm air passing by the evaporator is cooled, the refrigerant (in a liquid-vapor state) then evaporates completely into a vapor. From here, the refrigeration cycle repeats with the compressor where the vapor refrigerant is then compressed again and turned into liquid (after passing through the condenser). Although there is no physical example of an ideal or 'Carnot' cycle, the refrigeration cycle experiences the most thermodynamic irreversibility of any thermodynamic cycle (when compared to other power cycles). Thermodynamic irreversibility occurs in all real thermodynamic cycles and the refrigeration cycles experiences most of these in the compression phase of the refrigerant. In addition, frictional losses experienced through the elements and piping of the system can have a great impact on pressure in the system, again resulting in slight decreases in efficiency. What you have to understand here is that the working fluid (refrigerant) is most effective when in liquid form. Therefore, an expansion valve not specifically designed for the system could be vaporizing more of the liquid refrigerant, resulting in a liquid-vapor mixture higher in vapor content. This means less efficient cooling once the mixture reaches the evaporator. In addition, due to the fact that the system was originally designed to use Dichlorodifluoromethane (R12), the thermodynamic cycle could be experiencing more thermodynamic irreversibility due to the differences in the thermodynamic properties of both fluids. It's been a while since my thermodynamics courses, so feel free to check me on some of this. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, R12 v R134 what other elements are different? Tarek Elshenawy wrote: It's due to the thermodynamic properties of both refrigerants. Regardless of part numbers, R12 and R134a systems are designed to run on R12 and R134a, respectively. When you convert an R12 system to R134a, it is simply not as efficient at cooling due to the differences in thermodynamic properties. Even if the evaporator and condenser have the same part number, there are other elements in the system that are different. SN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/900 - Release Date: 7/14/2007 3:36 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 55 Chev
A 1955 Benz had a swing axle rear end with locating links ('53 to '73).
I would imagine the difference to be quite noticeable. I certainly
remember a '56 Chevy being a road whale in comparison to my '72 W108,
which has a quite similar suspension to a '55 Benz.
That 1 sway bar up front makes a huge difference, so does the lack of
tire offset.
Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
Hi Bill, The window is pretty easy to replace - at least it was in my W123 78 240D. Also, I don;t believe that car has the ACC - probably still uses the older manual system like mine. I had the whole system renewed in mine and it was $1000 - that was 2 years ago and it still blows so cold I have to turn it down below min. Rust is a *Big* deal for me. It almost cannot ever be stopped completely - especially in place like you describe. You might be able to slow it down with rust inhibitors and POR15 but it'll eventually come thru. I suggest you have the engine looked at - the best test is a cold start test - at 30F or below and that's probably not going to happen this time of year. My 78 240D started fine with damaged pistons and broken rings - $1k is ok if it's in good condition - but if you pay someone to fix the AC it can go up quickly. You might want to have a shop give an estimate to fix it and use that to bargain. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/900 - Release Date: 7/14/2007 3:36 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
Try to get it for $600. If you are talking about taking it to your mechanic for an inspection, you probably shouldnt be buying it in the first place though. BillR wrote: I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] oh boy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300DT_W0QQitemZ180139694209QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oh boy
what's most disturbing - parts in the back seat, the spoiler, or the rear bumper that's falling off? On 7/15/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300DT_W0QQitemZ180139694209QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oh boy
all of the above Sunil Hari wrote: what's most disturbing - parts in the back seat, the spoiler, or the rear bumper that's falling off? On 7/15/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300DT_W0QQitemZ180139694209QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cracks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decades ago I had a set of four American Mags (magnesium wheels) tested by X-Ray Inc. at Boeing field and three were cracked and unserviceable even though the cracks were not visible to the naked eye. The dye-penetrant test revealed them. I can remember when a couple of Cycle Magazine editors were building a desmo Ducati for superbike racing. They scored a pair of ultra light Italian mag wheels (probably Campagnolo) for it. Sent them in for the dye test, which made them look like a pair of spider webs. I think Cook Neilson had them made into endtables or something. It seems he was unwilling to ride 145mph on them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] five speeds
190e 2.6 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330146991637 300TE http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330146714391 Good thing this is in Canada or I'd be in big trouble right now. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
If you're having to pay to have it done, the ac repair is going to start at around $200 min for a check and charge and quickly go up to $1400 + if it's anything major. Something to consider. Dead AC needing a compressor is one of the main reasons people dump cars in this area, they can take a little more and set a down on a new car. Robert BillR wrote: I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve clearances?
Allan Streib wrote: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends on whether it's a turbo or a non turbo engine. Turbo. My '83 300D Intake 0.1 mm (0.004) or if temps below 0 F are anticipated 0.15 mm (0.006). Exhaust (turbo) 0.35 mm (0.014) non-turbo 0.3 mm (0.012). So, 0.10 mm intake, 0.35 mm exhaust. Thanks. If the old gasket doesn't leak at the proper torque setting and isn't rock hard, gooey or cracking- go for it. If it leaks, then a new one is necessary. All of mine are 20+ years old and still don't leak. I replaced the gasket last time, so it shouldn't be hard or cracked yet. Allan If you have leak problems, it's possible that the valve cover has been over torqued and if that's happened then you must either get a new valve cover or grind down the shoulders where the valve cover is secured or the cover WILL leak even with a new gasket. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
I would think you would be better off buying a semi-nice W123/W124 for $5k or so - use it for a year, maintain it and fix what needs fixing then sell it for what you have in it. Dont go crazy - be as economical as possible and you may come out ahead. The seret is finding a nice example and keeping it like that. Buying a cheap Mercedes can be pretty expensive - To paraphrase ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D If you're having to pay to have it done, the ac repair is going to start at around $200 min for a check and charge and quickly go up to $1400 + if it's anything major. Something to consider. Dead AC needing a compressor is one of the main reasons people dump cars in this area, they can take a little more and set a down on a new car. Robert BillR wrote: I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/900 - Release Date: 7/14/2007 3:36 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Spotted 200D Tailfin
Or is it referred to as wing? Anyway, don't know how rare these are, but thought it was neat. Has the requisite biodiesel sticker on bumper. Don't remember if it was a two door or not. I'll have to go back and look soon. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev
A 1955 Benz had a swing axle rear end with locating links ('53 to '73).
Similar to a '55 VW, then. Can you spell oversteer?
I certainly remember a '56 Chevy being a road whale in comparison to my
'72 W108,
which has a quite similar suspension to a '55 Benz.
No design advances underneath from '55 to '72, then. Pitiful. And I remember
comments about the 'high pivot swing axles.
Although it's painful to do so, I will paraphrase Ritter's comments about his
6.3s handling. Evil and dangerous and the inadequate brakes compounded it.
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Re: [MBZ] Spotted 200D Tailfin
If it was diesel, it would be 4 door. And they are called finnies Zoltan Finks wrote: Or is it referred to as wing? Anyway, don't know how rare these are, but thought it was neat. Has the requisite biodiesel sticker on bumper. Don't remember if it was a two door or not. I'll have to go back and look soon. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] James May on the 123
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Re: [MBZ] OE tires
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Luck of the lowest-bidder draw. Other models use Michelins of some sort. Our '03 Ford Focus came with Hankook tires. I kid you not. One blew out going over a speed bump. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev
Actually, the 6.3's were great handling cars for the time and it is very
unfair to compare them to something newer.
They had 4 wheel disk brakes - American iron ran drum brakes. The
inadequate brakes were far superior to any American 4 door sedan from the
same era.
And as far as the Evil and dangerous handling goes? The biggest issue was
that they stuffed a 6.3 liter engine into a 108 chassis and the transplant
turned the car into a real hotrod with expected full throttle handling
compromises. The 108/109 chassis with a 4.5 liter V8 was great to drive - I
owned 2 of them.
And concerning the rear end?
Even though the rear end was a swing axle, the deflection angle was not near
as bad as a VW. The VW axles pivoted outside the transaxle. This, combined
with a much narrower track translated to a very high deflection angle. The
Mercedes rear end was wide enough that the angles were slight. Also, the
rear end has a single pivot point and a hydro compensator across the joint.
The compensator is a combination shock / spring unit that manages the axle
deflection. Earlier Mercedes like my 1959 220S did not have a hydro
compensator. In other words, Mercedes did make design advances to the rear
end of the car the hydro-compensator worked quite well.
At least the system translated to an independently sprung rear end -
American iron from the same period ran a straight axle across the back.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev
A 1955 Benz had a swing axle rear end with locating links ('53 to
'73).
Similar to a '55 VW, then. Can you spell oversteer?
I certainly remember a '56 Chevy being a road whale in comparison to my
'72 W108,
which has a quite similar suspension to a '55 Benz.
No design advances underneath from '55 to '72, then. Pitiful. And I remember
comments about the 'high pivot swing axles.
Although it's painful to do so, I will paraphrase Ritter's comments about
his
6.3s handling. Evil and dangerous and the inadequate brakes compounded it.
RLE
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[MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
Changed oil (back to M1 after a couple of changes of Delo, M1 having been hard to find locally for a while, but Wal-Mart had the five quart jugs of 15W-50 on sale today). Also changed fuel filters, and rotated tires this afternoon, trying to get a bit more life out of my nearly worn down michelins. With the front tires off, it was very clear that they were wearing more on the outside edge than the inside. Rears were evenly worn. I exchanged the front and rear on each side. But what does this wear pattern mean? Incorrect camber setting, or sign of more ominous front-end problems? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
how much was it at wally world? Allan Streib wrote: Changed oil (back to M1 after a couple of changes of Delo, M1 having been hard to find locally for a while, but Wal-Mart had the five quart jugs of 15W-50 on sale today). Also changed fuel filters, and rotated tires this afternoon, trying to get a bit more life out of my nearly worn down michelins. With the front tires off, it was very clear that they were wearing more on the outside edge than the inside. Rears were evenly worn. I exchanged the front and rear on each side. But what does this wear pattern mean? Incorrect camber setting, or sign of more ominous front-end problems? Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
Sure that's the diesel stuff? It's called Turbo Diesel Truck now. Only weight is 5w-40 and comes in the gallon jugs. Costs ~$22 locally. Luther On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:34:02 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how much was it at wally world? Allan Streib wrote: Changed oil (back to M1 after a couple of changes of Delo, M1 having been hard to find locally for a while, but Wal-Mart had the five quart jugs of 15W-50 on sale today). Also changed fuel filters, and rotated tires this afternoon, trying to get a bit more life out of my nearly worn down michelins. With the front tires off, it was very clear that they were wearing more on the outside edge than the inside. Rears were evenly worn. I exchanged the front and rear on each side. But what does this wear pattern mean? Incorrect camber setting, or sign of more ominous front-end problems? Allan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
I have one of those and it seems to work just fine. Windows XP. Allan Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how much was it at wally world? $19.59 here. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure that's the diesel stuff? It's called Turbo Diesel Truck now. No, this was the 15W-50, which is also approved for Mercedes diesels. They didn't have the Turbo Truck (Delvac) in stock. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve clearances?
Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have leak problems, it's possible that the valve cover has been over torqued and if that's happened then you must either get a new valve cover or grind down the shoulders where the valve cover is secured or the cover WILL leak even with a new gasket. No leak problems. I just thought I recalled reading that replacing the gasket with each valve adjustment was recommended. However that gasket seems to be pretty robust, so I was just wondering if it was really necessary to do that. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
Luther wrote: Sure that's the diesel stuff? It's called Turbo Diesel Truck now. Only weight is 5w-40 and comes in the gallon jugs. Costs ~$22 locally. So far as I know the 15w50 is still good to use. I've found a source of the 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck so I use that now. Costs ~6 a quart at Autozone. Wal-mart doesn't have the 5 quart jugs here. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
the 15w40 is also diesel stuff and works fine Luther wrote: Sure that's the diesel stuff? It's called Turbo Diesel Truck now. Only weight is 5w-40 and comes in the gallon jugs. Costs ~$22 locally. Luther On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:34:02 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how much was it at wally world? Allan Streib wrote: Changed oil (back to M1 after a couple of changes of Delo, M1 having been hard to find locally for a while, but Wal-Mart had the five quart jugs of 15W-50 on sale today). Also changed fuel filters, and rotated tires this afternoon, trying to get a bit more life out of my nearly worn down michelins. With the front tires off, it was very clear that they were wearing more on the outside edge than the inside. Rears were evenly worn. I exchanged the front and rear on each side. But what does this wear pattern mean? Incorrect camber setting, or sign of more ominous front-end problems? Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
OK, the first episode was kinda intersting, but how many shows can you make about semi trucks driving on ice? I'm already bored. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
My bologna has a first name, its L-I-N-U-X ... On 7/15/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
I have a Linksys AP/Router and a Linksys PCMCIA card on one laptop, and Compaq/HP/Intel WiFi adapters in the other laptops - all work and play well together - not problems at all. I take that back - the latest Compaq/HP laptop came with Vista, and won't connect to the AP when the SSID in not broadcast. Otherwise - everything works great. On 7/15/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one of those and it seems to work just fine. Windows XP. Allan Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve clearances?
I only replace them when they start to leak -- many years between changes. No leak problems. I just thought I recalled reading that replacing the gasket with each valve adjustment was recommended. However that gasket seems to be pretty robust, so I was just wondering if it was really necessary to do that. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
Ok, restarting. On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:49:11 -0500, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My bologna has a first name, its L-I-N-U-X ... On 7/15/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev
Yeah, if you really push one, a swing axle Benz will start to jack in the rear -- at well over 100 mph. The low scrub front end (better after 1962) does give minor bump steer and some understeer, but nothing like the floating rear axle and zero caster front end on a 55 Chevy, to say nothing of the lack of an anti-roll bar and a flexible frame to boot (Benz was unibody after '53). My 280 SE has very neutral handling, fading into understeer as fast as I've driven it (not that fast, it's a bit wobbly from age and deteriorated rear suspension mounts). A '55 Chevy plows horribly, until the inside rear tire lifts and it rolls over. The Benz rear axle is the prime example of a LOW pivot swing axle design -- the pivot is below the differential. Not very exciting today, but in 1953 it was the cat's meow. Not much comparison -- those old Detroit Lead Sleds ride nicely (as in very soft), but handling is, well, scary. A swing axle (camber limited, you will note -- oversteer on a VW is due to really bad weight distribution, not the axle design) IS an independent rear suspension, compare with a floppy live axle! No spring wrap, no bunny hop, no oversteer from the rear axle moving around under the car, and believe me, you can SEE them move from behind one of those '50's cars. The 6.3 was grossly overpowered for the chassis -- no way it was a good match, but it was at the end of the chassis design life, not the beginning! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
What's the answer to Allen's front tire wear question? On 7/15/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the 15w40 is also diesel stuff and works fine -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a Linksys AP/Router and a Linksys PCMCIA card on one laptop, and Compaq/HP/Intel WiFi adapters in the other laptops - all work and play well together - not problems at all. I take that back - the latest Compaq/HP laptop came with Vista, and won't connect to the AP when the SSID in not broadcast. Otherwise - everything works great. Vista is a turd. The only reason it will gain market share is that you have no choice: with few exceptions, all new Windows PCs are shipping with Vista. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19747743/ -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
i've got 3 airport cards being fed by my linksys wireless router and no problems at all. sounds like a windoze issue to me On 7/15/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
Sounds like a problem with installation (software conflict) or defective router, you should not get a system crash from a network connection!. It may also be faulty -- call tech support first, but I'd exchange it. Make sure the software is correct, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev
All the below points out the over engineered part of the magazine's remark. The W115 looked a lot like a '55 Chevy, but that's where the similarity ends. On 7/15/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, if you really push one, a swing axle Benz will start to jack in the rear -- at well over 100 mph. The low scrub front end (better after 1962) does give minor bump steer and some understeer, but nothing like the floating rear axle and zero caster front end on a 55 Chevy, to say nothing of the lack of an anti-roll bar and a flexible frame to boot (Benz was unibody after '53). My 280 SE has very neutral handling, fading into understeer as fast as I've driven it (not that fast, it's a bit wobbly from age and deteriorated rear suspension mounts). A '55 Chevy plows horribly, until the inside rear tire lifts and it rolls over. The Benz rear axle is the prime example of a LOW pivot swing axle design -- the pivot is below the differential. Not very exciting today, but in 1953 it was the cat's meow. Not much comparison -- those old Detroit Lead Sleds ride nicely (as in very soft), but handling is, well, scary. A swing axle (camber limited, you will note -- oversteer on a VW is due to really bad weight distribution, not the axle design) IS an independent rear suspension, compare with a floppy live axle! No spring wrap, no bunny hop, no oversteer from the rear axle moving around under the car, and believe me, you can SEE them move from behind one of those '50's cars. The 6.3 was grossly overpowered for the chassis -- no way it was a good match, but it was at the end of the chassis design life, not the beginning! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
Check for an updated driver -- the crash almost has to be the driver for the USB NIC. On 7/15/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a problem with installation (software conflict) or defective router, you should not get a system crash from a network connection!. It may also be faulty -- call tech support first, but I'd exchange it. Make sure the software is correct, too. Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
Check the front end -- excessive outside wear is a sign of worn tie rods or center link ball joints, giving you excessive toe-out. Could also be bad brake support bushings on a W123 or W126 chassis. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
The rides on the ice have all been completed (of course) so they will keep showing 'em until the episodes already in the can have been broadcast, and of course for as long as the sponsors continue to send in the checks and/or find loopholes in the contract. For what it is worth, my college age daughter, who has never so much as ever sat in a semi, loves the show. I think this is the latest incarnation of the West Coast Choppers sort of show, where individuals on-screen yell at one another incessantly and the average viewer thinks, Thank God I am not that blue collar. ... And for those out there who are or have been drivers, I don't mean anything derogatory by that comment; instead, I am referring to individuals who, offered the opportunity to start in a television show, will go days without sleep while driving a rig over ice just so they can win when the points are added up. There is a reason the the gumment restricts the hours that one can drive per day! But I do agree. The first one or two times were pretty cool. Unfortunately, they are working on a theme upon which there are few possible variations -- unless someone does something like actually die after falling through the ice, complete with footage of Coast Guard choppers trying in vain to do the rescue. Since the ride is over and everyone's final scorecard has been posted on the 'Net (none posthumously), that isn't going to happen. On 7/15/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, the first episode was kinda intersting, but how many shows can you make about semi trucks driving on ice? I'm already bored. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
Boot off of a PCLinuxOS CD, see if it recognizes the card, and browse a few web sites to see how it operates. PCLinuxOS seems to love WiFi (based solely on reading articles, no personal experience). On 7/15/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, restarting. On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:49:11 -0500, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My bologna has a first name, its L-I-N-U-X ... On 7/15/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check the front end -- excessive outside wear is a sign of worn tie rods or center link ball joints, giving you excessive toe-out. Could also be bad brake support bushings on a W123 or W126 chassis. Yes, this is my 300D. Not sure if I was clear about that in my original post. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
Strangely, I found the Bering Sea crab boat series much more captivating, even though it has basically the same limited variations on the theme. However, though my personal experience is slight, I've always thougt there was something cool/romantic about working on the sea. Allan Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The rides on the ice have all been completed (of course) so they will keep showing 'em until the episodes already in the can have been broadcast, and of course for as long as the sponsors continue to send in the checks and/or find loopholes in the contract. For what it is worth, my college age daughter, who has never so much as ever sat in a semi, loves the show. I think this is the latest incarnation of the West Coast Choppers sort of show, where individuals on-screen yell at one another incessantly and the average viewer thinks, Thank God I am not that blue collar. ... And for those out there who are or have been drivers, I don't mean anything derogatory by that comment; instead, I am referring to individuals who, offered the opportunity to start in a television show, will go days without sleep while driving a rig over ice just so they can win when the points are added up. There is a reason the the gumment restricts the hours that one can drive per day! But I do agree. The first one or two times were pretty cool. Unfortunately, they are working on a theme upon which there are few possible variations -- unless someone does something like actually die after falling through the ice, complete with footage of Coast Guard choppers trying in vain to do the rescue. Since the ride is over and everyone's final scorecard has been posted on the 'Net (none posthumously), that isn't going to happen. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunday afternoon maintenance
I bought some of the Truck stuff a couple weeks ago, and some of the 15W50 -- the truck stuff comes in 4 qt jugs, the 15W50 in 5 qt. Go figure. --R John Robbins wrote: Luther wrote: Sure that's the diesel stuff? It's called Turbo Diesel Truck now. Only weight is 5w-40 and comes in the gallon jugs. Costs ~$22 locally. So far as I know the 15w50 is still good to use. I've found a source of the 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck so I use that now. Costs ~6 a quart at Autozone. Wal-mart doesn't have the 5 quart jugs here. John _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev
It wasn't until the mid 90's that Ford in Oz had independant rear suspesion. GM had it a bit earlier but the early independant set ups used to chew tyres at an alarming rate unless upgraded with redesigned components. No wonder they can't sell their cars, the average car buyer in Oz is getting more sophisticated and blind brand loyalty is starting to fade. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev At least the system translated to an independently sprung rear end - American iron from the same period ran a straight axle across the back. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
When I got shipped off to OCS as an E-6 Avionics Tech and left (for all practical purposes) Coast Guard aviation, I was slotted to transfer to Kodiak and work SAR from C-130s and HH-3F helos. I think I missed some interesting times. On 7/15/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strangely, I found the Bering Sea crab boat series much more captivating, even though it has basically the same limited variations on the theme. However, though my personal experience is slight, I've always thougt there was something cool/romantic about working on the sea. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123
The glovebox lid, for example, would not yield even to Jeremy Clarkson and his Cotswolds Screwdriver*; it would come off only by reversing the process by which it was attached in the first place. In isolation, it seems like an unnecessarily complex one, but time has proved it to be unbelievably fit for purpose Is he talking about the same glove box lid as my TD has? Huh? That will not stay aligned, the light tends to come on randomly, the latch barely engages... and this after multiple efforts at fixing it. Oh, and those screws with the slots separated by non-slots. --R tom savage wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml;jsessionid=RY5TCD4MHL2K5QFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?view=DETAILSgrid=A1YourViewxml=/motoring/2007/07/14/mrmay14.xml _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
Well you can always switch channels to something more stimulating like bikini girls jelly wrestling or the good old spitting into a spitoon contest. What about a nice food eating contest, I know I have a great idea, how about we get some large white people to see how many starving african kids they can eat in an hour or so. - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers OK, the first episode was kinda intersting, but how many shows can you make about semi trucks driving on ice? I'm already bored. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
CNN or C-Span perhaps? Like .. you actually get the show in OzLand? On 7/15/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well you can always switch channels to something more stimulating like bikini girls jelly wrestling or the good old spitting into a spitoon contest. What about a nice food eating contest, I know I have a great idea, how about we get some large white people to see how many starving african kids they can eat in an hour or so. - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers OK, the first episode was kinda intersting, but how many shows can you make about semi trucks driving on ice? I'm already bored. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody in Cinci want a 250Dt?
Cheap W124 250D, circa 1993: http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=39-879941 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
I think I just hit the need for a garage monkey. I went back and repositioned the arms on the splines so that they line up better and tried to get it matched up with original neutral. Might have destroyed it now. Had it up on jack stands so the rear tires spun free and could not get the drive shaft to spin, so with it in neutral I started the car and slowly let out the clutch. Wheels would not spin and the engine died as if the transmission were engaged. Killed it. Lit her off again and with clutch in rowed around looking for first gear. Think I got it and slowly let out the clutch while giving her more fuel. Got the rear wheels to spin, but when I let of the pedal, it died again, as if engaging from a stop. Hood was open so I got out and see smoke coming from the transmission. Manual trans, and nasty burnt ATF smell. How big of a pooch did I screw on this one? clay On Jul 14, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Redghost wrote: I am very certain there was no way to get the old bushing out while it was installed on the transmission, so . Not going to spring for some garage monkey to charge $150/hr to do the exact same thing I did for free. I might be willing to pay after a few more days of messing with it and not getting it right though On Jul 14, 2007, at 12:17 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: removed those to get at the old bushing material and replace it. When I put it back on, I may have miss mounted by a few teeth on the shaft where it was marked to go. Took it apart to make the job easier, eh? Don't you hate it when that happens? I sure do! -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Do Google Earth pictures get updated?
In a message dated 7/14/2007 4:36:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get the Microsoft live search version of Mappoint when I type in local.live.com. A Google search came up with http://maps.live.com which went to the same page. Try that. All, My windows ME won't load the google maps ( it tells me my os is does not qualify) but does a great job on the microsoft view. Interestingly, the ms provides 4 views and the east and north views have the cars in the driveway switched! The shots obviously were taken at different times, though I couldn't guess how far apart. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Cinci want a 250Dt?
A what? Ad says 300D. 1. Yes. 2. Checkbook says no. On 7/15/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheap W124 250D, circa 1993: http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=39-879941 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve clearances?
Get serious, it is like $6 from Rusty, just get a fresh one and make sure you have it on right. Do take a look at the valve cover to see if there are any sharp spots that might nick or lacerate the gasket and sand them down. Should not leak with a new gasket. clay On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have leak problems, it's possible that the valve cover has been over torqued and if that's happened then you must either get a new valve cover or grind down the shoulders where the valve cover is secured or the cover WILL leak even with a new gasket. No leak problems. I just thought I recalled reading that replacing the gasket with each valve adjustment was recommended. However that gasket seems to be pretty robust, so I was just wondering if it was really necessary to do that. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Cinci want a 250Dt?
MBUSA called the 250D a 300D, much as they called the 350SDL a 300SDL. From 90-93, the diesel 124 was a OM602 5 cyl 2.5L. Wonko the Sane wrote: A what? Ad says 300D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:54:50 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I just hit the need for a garage monkey. I went back and repositioned the arms on the splines so that they line up better and tried to get it matched up with original neutral. Might have destroyed it now. Had it up on jack stands so the rear tires spun free and could not get the drive shaft to spin, so with it in neutral I started the car and slowly let out the clutch. Bad idea, as you discovered. If the driveshaft won't spin by hand, you don't have it in neutral. It would have been better if you had stopped and emailed us with your distress at this point. Wheels would not spin and the engine died as if the transmission were engaged. Killed it. With mis-adjusted shift levers, you can get it into two gears at once. This, of course, locks the transmission up solid. Lit her off again and with clutch in rowed around looking for first gear. Think I got it and slowly let out the clutch while giving her more fuel. Got the rear wheels to spin, but when I let of the pedal, it died again, as if engaging from a stop. I'm not sure what, as if engaging from a stop, means. Hood was open so I got out and see smoke coming from the transmission. Manual trans, and nasty burnt ATF smell. How big of a pooch did I screw on this one? Sounds like you burned the clutch plate and possibly heat damaged the flywheel and pressure plate. Sorry. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
yea, I watched the first one, then part way thru the 2nd I got bored. Besides, they already had a show about it a year or 2 ago on the history channel or one of those. Allan Streib wrote: OK, the first episode was kinda intersting, but how many shows can you make about semi trucks driving on ice? I'm already bored. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drats! W115 Neutral start interlock failed
In a message dated 7/15/2007 12:28:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I'm still here, and the neutral start interlock relay on the 74 2040D 4-speed is misbehaving and the starter can't be engaged. There is no audible click when neutral is selected like there should be. The switch mechanism on the shifter appears to be ok, that's why I think it's the relay. Unlike the 75 W115, there is no relay reset button (that I can find) in the engine compartment. Can anyone tell me how to reset the relay (and where it is in case I am looking at the wrong device) or shunt it so I can start the car? TIA, and apologies for never posting anything except when I have a problem! I will post the outcome of replacing the IP on the 82 300CD shortly (good news story). Bruce, The relay on my 74 240D was on the firewall, almost directly above the starter. You can pop the cover off and move the contacts manually to engage the starter. This is a double throw relay and the contacts normally made feed the Air Conditioning. Going to start effectively eliminates the AC loads during the starting operation. Note: You may also be dealing with the more common problem of the starter solenoid hanging up after a heavy heat soak, such as a hard run up the freeway. Spritzing the starter with cold water will often let the solenoid function again. Good luck,. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
In a message dated 7/15/2007 8:49:59 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Had it up on jack stands so the rear tires spun free and could not get the drive shaft to spin, so with it in neutral I started the car and slowly let out the clutch. Wheels would not spin and the engine died as if the transmission were engaged. Killed it. Lit her off again and with clutch in rowed around looking for first gear. Think I got it and slowly let out the clutch while giving her more fuel. Got the rear wheels to spin, but when I let of the pedal, it died again, as if engaging from a stop. Hood was open so I got out and see smoke coming from the transmission. Manual trans, and nasty burnt ATF smell. How big of a pooch did I screw on this one? Clay, Sounds like you had more than one set of snychros engaged at the same time. This would lock up the trans and burn the clutch, more likely what you smelled. No major harm done. Any chance you reversed the shifter arms ( I know you said you marked them), either from one lever to the other, or more likely, you flipped the arms inside to outside. You may also have reverse somehow permanently engaged. I would sleep on this and get a fresh look at it in the morning light. You might spot something. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drats! W115 Neutral start interlock failed
I'm still here, and the neutral start interlock relay on the 74 2040D 4-speed is misbehaving and the starter can't be engaged. There was one year or two where the draconian USDOT laws required some really heinous hand-holding, such as an engine that couldn't run with the hood up, etc. (Or was that without somebody in the seat?) Anyway, first thing I'd recommend is rewiring the area to be like prior or subsequent years, most of the cars don't have such a relay at all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Need an OM603 turbo
I recently grenaded the turbo in my 300TD and need another, either for donor parts, or to do a direct swap. It needs to be a Garrett T3 (not a KKK), so let me know if you've got a good serviceable unit, or a core. Thanks, Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
