Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Make sure the belt rollers, guides , tensioners are working properly. Make sure the roller is perpendicular to the engine and not canted - if it's cocked it is on the way out - quickly . The parts are cheap though and easy to fix. The elctrical problem is probably due to the battery being low - the belt is probaboy ot driving the PS or alt. It should be obvious in the light - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL HI Folks, Needing some guidance. A 1987 MB 300SDL I sold about two months ago pulled into my driveway this evening. It was experiencing a major challenge. NO dash lights were working, every idiot light was on, no courtesy lights would operate, head and tail lights were Ok but dim. It also was extremely difficult to steer as if no power steering??? These are friends of mine and this is his wife's car, of course she was freaking out. I loaned her my Coupe to get home in and told her I would look at her SDL in the light of tomorrow. I was thinking/wondering, with the power steering so bad is the belt that feeds the power steering pump also connected with/to the alternator? I am searching for a common denominator as the wife says that everything was fine until about three/five miles ago. Dave H... http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.9/1198 - Release Date: 12/26/2007 5:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
It was a different time place. I spent my young years 5-12 in a small town in SC - Would ride a bus to school (driven by high school students!!! - some only 16 yrs old) with the high school kids - would walk to my elementary school next to the HS. After school I took my BB gun, met my best friend and spent as much time as possible in the woods around our houses - the small town was firmly in the country. Now, my daughter won't let our G'Son shoot my old BB gun in the backyard - but I'm working on her ;-) On Saturday's my Mom or my friends mom would drop us at the theater (there was only 1)to see the movies - usually a Western double feature. This was by ourselves at ages 8-12 IIRC. When I was 13 we moved to Hampton Va - a pretty large city com[pared to our previous location but not really a *big* city like NY or Phil. The downtown part was mostly old and run down with no reason to go there as the malls had all we needed - and we shopped at the air force base mostly anyway. I stayed there until after HS - hitchhiking when I needed to get somewhere and the bus wasn;t handy or I didn;t have the money. After being married at 18 (wife 17) we moved to La then Tx in 1973 or 74. WHile I worked (at a oil refinery - back when we used to build them) my wife would take the 3 kids to the beach (near Sabine Pass in east Tx) on the Gulf of Mex - she;'d be completely by herself with not another soul on the beach for miles. Often she wouldn;t see another person during the 2-3 hours she stayed. That scares the hell out of me now! No way would she or I see her take 3 kids aged 2-5 to a deserted beach!! She was 22 by then and while she may have been in danger we didn;t think so. AS someone said, things were different then - or maybe we didn;t hear about crime like we do now.? Also, I wouldn;t have wanted my kids to hitchhike anywhere -- So I think we did a lot of things in the 60s and 70s we wouldn;t dream of doing in the 80s, 90s or 00s. Can it really be that people are worse now? Seems like there must have always been Bad people. I know the education system is worse and could explain why but I can't think of what would turn part of the populaton into homicidal maniacs where they were not before. Maybe I'm just not thinking hard enough. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] how the world has changed my kid informs me that she really wants to go to disney world. i explain that disney world is a place i really hate, so she ought not hold her breath. then she suggests that she can go to the park by herself and i can go find some other way to entertain myself during that time. i dismiss the idea immediately. when i think back though to when i was her age, i realize that is exactly what would have happened had my parents taken me to disney. (my parents, however, didn't venture more than about 100 miles from new york city, so no worries about this actually coming up). by the time i was in the fifth grade, i was pretty much on my own. i walked to school in the morning and back home in the afternoon. on days when there was no school, i'd leave the house to go out on the street in the late morning and come back at dinnertime. i walked long distances to go places and would take the bus or subway on my own if i had the money to. all my friends lived this lifestyle as well and a complete lack of supervision seemed the norm. in fact, the few children we did know who lived under parental supervision where considered highly unusual both by us kids and by our parents. my dad left hungary after a dispute with the communists and their radical expansion of power. europe, however, isn't really that big a place, so he soon found himself living the life of a beach bum in southern italy. he was quite a dark skinned man and seemed able to spend all day in sea and sand without any ill effects. i, on the other hand, burn easily and am impatient with just sitting in the sand all day. he came to new york and was a beach bum there as well and never lost his love of the beach. on summer saturdays we would go to jones beach along with 100,000 other people. it is a large and well appointed place. i'd hang out with dad for half an hour or so, then disappear to find other activities. maybe i'd swim a couple of miles down the beach or maybe i'd go check out the basketball courts. i'd return several hours later after having entertained myself adequately . this was pretty normal. i'm still fond of the beach and take my kid whenever i can. she is
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Also, what's your opinion of school uniforms - doesn;t it level the playing field and remove some of the competition about who has the best shoes or newest clothes? re the kids from the cattle family - I knew a family in SC who owned their own business. They used to do their sons homework for him or get his sister to do it!! He could barely read and when asked about him needing basic skills later they said he;d inherit the business and only needed to know how to run that business. Sad they had such low expectations. There's some strange people out there - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed I taught in a local (rural/suburban) high school last semester, and to say that things are adversarial when it comes to students and parents is putting it mildly. I had a kid who was from a very well known and prominent cattle ranching family. It's clear that the student in question was not going to college and most likely would live out their life on the ranch, taken care of by mom and dad until they cacked and left he and his siblings the ranch. They would come in to class on a daily basis and either be disruptive or just put their head on his desk (I'm not going to work today.) While that was probably the best thing, since having them sleep kept them from being disruptive, it set a precedent that would cause me problems with other students. I would take them out of class, call mom, and explain the situation. Mom would talk to them, they would be compliant, and the next day the cycle would repeat itself. Back in the day, if our teacher called home like this we would probably expect a major @ss-kicking. In this day in age it's clear that for most kids there are no expectations of civility or respect, nor are there consequences for such behaviors. I think that's the one thing that p#sses me off the most as a teacher. If I expect my students to comply with the rules and they don't, there is little or nothing I can do about it, and if I do, I risk getting a nasty phone call from home. So I tolerate it, unless I get an administrator that I know will back me up. MacDan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm still friends with one of my teachers from high school. he is still teaching. he says it's a whole different day today where he really has to watch everything he says and does as the kids go home and tell their parents everything and the parents then come in and terrorize the administrators. in our day, you were really expected to settle your own affairs. if you had an issue with a teacher, you dealt with it yourself as the teacher did if he had an issue with you. today, children are unable to settle their own affairs on any level. they just complain all day screaming for constant adult intervention. what is this about? some kind of feminization of society perhaps? Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.9/1198 - Release Date: 12/26/2007 5:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Jeez Dave - Maybe you have a car *I* can buy from you? Maybe you can finance it and make the payments for me, too? ;-) The sad part about your friends is their willingness to take advantage of you. I bet the woman heard the noise but had no incentive to get it checked as long as she could get where she wanted to go. Only then did she think something might be wrong - that needs *you* to fix. It sounds like these people are financially challenged - else you wouldn't have given them such a great deal (I would have loved that 300SDL on those terms!!) ;-) but I can work on it myself - Anyway - glad the fix will be straightforward - even a generic shop should be able to handle it - Happy New Year - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Well everyone of you hit it right on the head. I found a flashlight (Not a small deed in and of itself in this house) :) Went out and looked. It appears as though the AC Compressor locked down and actually melted the serpentine belt. I have seen belts break but never one melt (I had it replaced approximately 7 months ago) but melt it certainly did. How in the heck she could have been driving the vehicle and not heard the belt screeching is way beyond me. Now he, the husband, wants to know when I can have it repaired? Told him flat out nope not going to happen - but I can recommend a good shop for this non technical work. Sold him the car at a loss to make his wife happy and I am financing it for him, interest free - repair it as well? I don't think so! Sometimes a friendship can be pushed to far. Dave H... -- From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL HI Folks, Needing some guidance. A 1987 MB 300SDL I sold about two months ago pulled into my driveway this evening. It was experiencing a major challenge. NO dash lights were working, every idiot light was on, no courtesy lights would operate, head and tail lights were Ok but dim. It also was extremely difficult to steer as if no power steering??? These are friends of mine and this is his wife's car, of course she was freaking out. I loaned her my Coupe to get home in and told her I would look at her SDL in the light of tomorrow. I was thinking/wondering, with the power steering so bad is the belt that feeds the power steering pump also connected with/to the alternator? I am searching for a common denominator as the wife says that everything was fine until about three/five miles ago. Dave H... http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.9/1198 - Release Date: 12/26/2007 5:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
--- LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Not in Florida. As an administrator (principal) the best you could possibly do is in the high 70's, and that's if you started out really early in your career. North of the Mason-Dixon Line you can make in the low 100's, but those jobs are hard to come by. Also, what's your opinion of school uniforms - doesn;t it level the playing field and remove some of the competition about who has the best shoes or newest clothes? I have mixed emotions about the uniform thing. The school I work at has a uniform policy, but it's fairly easy to get around, mainly because it's a Title 1 school and one of the workarounds is not having the ability to buy uniforms. Ironically, I have seen kids come in with NBA jerseys that cost more than what I make in a day, yet they can't buy uniforms? In theory it's a good idea, in practice it's really up to how strictly the rules are enforced. re the kids from the cattle family - I knew a family in SC who owned their own business. They used to do their sons homework for him or get his sister to do it!! He could barely read and when asked about him needing basic skills later they said he;d inherit the business and only needed to know how to run that business. Sad they had such low expectations. These people are not highly educated but they are very successful and recognize the value of an education. Interestingly, their other kids are/were good students and are or will attend college. This one is the problem child of the family, hence the lowered expectations, I believe. There's some strange people out there - Definitely. The demographics for this school are really bizarre. I had classes with poor (white) kids, hispanic gang-bangers, upscale party girls with boob jobs (at 17!) and middle eastern immigrant kids who kicked ass academically. That's all in one class. Go figure. Dan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
Problem is, the way things are today that they probably wouldnt back you up. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed I taught in a local (rural/suburban) high school last semester, and to say that things are adversarial when it comes to students and parents is putting it mildly. I had a kid who was from a very well known and prominent cattle ranching family. It's clear that the student in question was not going to college and most likely would live out their life on the ranch, taken care of by mom and dad until they cacked and left he and his siblings the ranch. They would come in to class on a daily basis and either be disruptive or just put their head on his desk (I'm not going to work today.) While that was probably the best thing, since having them sleep kept them from being disruptive, it set a precedent that would cause me problems with other students. I would take them out of class, call mom, and explain the situation. Mom would talk to them, they would be compliant, and the next day the cycle would repeat itself. Back in the day, if our teacher called home like this we would probably expect a major @ss-kicking. In this day in age it's clear that for most kids there are no expectations of civility or respect, nor are there consequences for such behaviors. I think that's the one thing that p#sses me off the most as a teacher. If I expect my students to comply with the rules and they don't, there is little or nothing I can do about it, and if I do, I risk getting a nasty phone call from home. So I tolerate it, unless I get an administrator that I know will back me up. MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Hell I would have made a deal like that with you :) It had to have been very loud but you know how some women are, they dont pay attention. I cant believe the compressor pulley locked up. If the compressor itself locked up the klima relay would have kicked it out, unless somebody had it wired up to run all the time because something in the system was bad, then the clutch would have stayed kicked in and melted the belt. Otherwise the pulley itself would have locked up but I dont think I have ever seen that happen. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Well everyone of you hit it right on the head. I found a flashlight (Not a small deed in and of itself in this house) :) Went out and looked. It appears as though the AC Compressor locked down and actually melted the serpentine belt. I have seen belts break but never one melt (I had it replaced approximately 7 months ago) but melt it certainly did. How in the heck she could have been driving the vehicle and not heard the belt screeching is way beyond me. Now he, the husband, wants to know when I can have it repaired? Told him flat out nope not going to happen - but I can recommend a good shop for this non technical work. Sold him the car at a loss to make his wife happy and I am financing it for him, interest free - repair it as well? I don't think so! Sometimes a friendship can be pushed to far. Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. You on the other hand are probably screwed, particularly when they find out the compressor replacement cost possibly the head replacement cost. They can't afford either. If they could then you would not be financing the car. Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. You on the other hand are probably screwed, particularly when they find out the compressor replacement cost possibly the head replacement cost. They can't afford either. If they could then you would not be financing the car. Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
No problem as long as they are willing to pay you for your time, right? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. You on the other hand are probably screwed, particularly when they find out the compressor replacement cost possibly the head replacement cost. They can't afford either. If they could then you would not be financing the car. Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Thats just it, they wont want to pay for my time, or the cost of the parts. Just dont want to get involved in it if I can help it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL No problem as long as they are willing to pay you for your time, right? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Kaleb, This couple was very knowledgeable prior to buying this vehicle that the AC did not work properly (not cold enough). After talking with the wife, at length last night, it turns out that the car was putting out exorbitant heat last week - so much so that they had to drive with the windows and sun roof open. Who in their right minds would continue to drive an automobile like that without trying to determine what the cause of this error was? When I looked at the climate control lever last night it was set on cool Minimum. I had a similar occurrence with my ladies 84 300DT last summer. Anyone could hear that compressor pulley making the belt squeal. Solution? Simple - Don't turn on the AC until I could have it properly serviced. Surely this compressor/compressor pulley did not lock down all at once for the first time Have I mentioned how frustrated I am with selling vehicles to friend's and them clearly knowing no warranty was either expressed or implied and then demanding that I fix a problem? I had already split the cost of repairing the starter solenoid with them after they had the car two weeks. Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Hell I would have made a deal like that with you :) It had to have been very loud but you know how some women are, they dont pay attention. I cant believe the compressor pulley locked up. If the compressor itself locked up the klima relay would have kicked it out, unless somebody had it wired up to run all the time because something in the system was bad, then the clutch would have stayed kicked in and melted the belt. Otherwise the pulley itself would have locked up but I dont think I have ever seen that happen. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Well everyone of you hit it right on the head. I found a flashlight (Not a small deed in and of itself in this house) :) Went out and looked. It appears as though the AC Compressor locked down and actually melted the serpentine belt. I have seen belts break but never one melt (I had it replaced approximately 7 months ago) but melt it certainly did. How in the heck she could have been driving the vehicle and not heard the belt screeching is way beyond me. Now he, the husband, wants to know when I can have it repaired? Told him flat out nope not going to happen - but I can recommend a good shop for this non technical work. Sold him the car at a loss to make his wife happy and I am financing it for him, interest free - repair it as well? I don't think so! Sometimes a friendship can be pushed to far. Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This is why I quit working on cars for friends but I'm still willing to help list members with their Mercedes providing they are stopping by to learn something. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Thats just it, they wont want to pay for my time, or the cost of the parts. Just dont want to get involved in it if I can help it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL No problem as long as they are willing to pay you for your time, right? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Fmiser wrote: Speaking of, I have that collection of Marshall Booth emails posts. I got it to Kaleb, but are you also interested? On a related topic, Marshall had a wealth of information, including every digest message ever sent to a few mailing lists (he was a charter member of most of the mbz lists). Has anybody been in contact with Linda to try to preserve the data he accumulated? Would Wonko or K-leb be in a position to do this? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If somebody wants to get it up on the website as some sort of collection of articles or something, I would be up for that. Right now I am too busy to do much compiling but if somebody wants to get something going, it back be put up on the site for access by all. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list Fmiser wrote: Speaking of, I have that collection of Marshall Booth emails posts. I got it to Kaleb, but are you also interested? On a related topic, Marshall had a wealth of information, including every digest message ever sent to a few mailing lists (he was a charter member of most of the mbz lists). Has anybody been in contact with Linda to try to preserve the data he accumulated? Would Wonko or K-leb be in a position to do this? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Also, does anybody have any contact info for Linda or somebody? I would think she might be wanting to get rid of his MB stuff at some point. Dont want to sound like a vulture or anything. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list Fmiser wrote: Speaking of, I have that collection of Marshall Booth emails posts. I got it to Kaleb, but are you also interested? On a related topic, Marshall had a wealth of information, including every digest message ever sent to a few mailing lists (he was a charter member of most of the mbz lists). Has anybody been in contact with Linda to try to preserve the data he accumulated? Would Wonko or K-leb be in a position to do this? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
--- Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is, the way things are today that they probably wouldnt back you up. That's the real root of the issue. At the high school I was teaching at there is a very clearly defined dress code (a district-wide one, for that matter.) You would have these teenage girls come in with their boobs about to pop out of their blouses, yet nothing would be said about it. If you as a teacher, turned them in, and you were a male teacher, you couldn't specify what their dress code violation was, as it would imply that you were looking at their boobs. That meant that if you tried to enforce the rules, you were in trouble. All you could do was send them to the office with a note about checking the dress code and nothing more. That way, if someone accused you of staring at their chest, you could just say that a student complained, you didn't know what the reason was, so you sent them down. As a result, the dress code was rarely ever enforced, since it was more trouble to do so, or you could risk some sort of backlash from turning the student in. There are other schools in the district where dress code violations are not tolerated - period. That's because the principal has dictated that they will be enforced. In the case of my school it wasn't, and as a result, the parents would complain if they got called about their kid's clothing (consider that Mom Dad sent them to school that way, too.) This is a good example of how the principal can make or break you without any direct interaction... Dan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... Whaddya got and how much do ya want?? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Tom, You've probably seen the shop sign that says (something like this) Standard Labor Rate - $25/hr Labor rate if you watch - $50/hr Labor rate if you help - $100/hr There's more but I'll have to find my Joke file first -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL This is why I quit working on cars for friends but I'm still willing to help list members with their Mercedes providing they are stopping by to learn something. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Thats just it, they wont want to pay for my time, or the cost of the parts. Just dont want to get involved in it if I can help it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL No problem as long as they are willing to pay you for your time, right? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Larry, I am learning - SLOW but learning. :) Two nights ago sold a 68 280SE to a local person. This time a full contract was signed and witnessed. Loan at 12% interest, three calendar days late a $50.00 penalty, non payment for thirty days automatic repossession. I have a lien on the title and he must provide proof of insurance with me as the lien holder being the primary beneficiary. This guy is a local Ph.D. level college professor but I am not taking any more chances. Learning but SLOW:) Dave H... -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Rick, Gonna cool down before I make any rash decisions I will later regret. Dave H... -- From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... Whaddya got and how much do ya want?? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
The compressor on my 240D siezed hard enough to shut the engine off in a parking lot. Scared my wife half to death... Made a heck of a noise. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:05:31 -0500 From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Kaleb, This couple was very knowledgeable prior to buying this vehicle that the AC did not work properly (not cold enough). After talking with the wife, at length last night, it turns out that the car was putting out exorbitant heat last week - so much so that they had to drive with the windows and sun roof open. Who in their right minds would continue to drive an automobile like that without trying to determine what the cause of this error was? When I looked at the climate control lever last night it was set on cool Minimum. I had a similar occurrence with my ladies 84 300DT last summer. Anyone could hear that compressor pulley making the belt squeal. Solution? Simple - Don't turn on the AC until I could have it properly serviced. Surely this compressor/compressor pulley did not lock down all at once for the first time Have I mentioned how frustrated I am with selling vehicles to friend's and them clearly knowing no warranty was either expressed or implied and then demanding that I fix a problem? I had already split the cost of repairing the starter solenoid with them after they had the car two weeks. Dave H... - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
If I were to ever finance a vehicle for somebody, they would be paying a little extra AND the car would not leave until they had it paid off. Even then you can be on shakey ground. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. You on the other hand are probably screwed, particularly when they find out the compressor replacement cost possibly the head replacement cost. They can't afford either. If they could then you would not be financing the car. Tom
Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list
I'd be proud to drive a Marshall car or have a Marshall car part on my car... -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:21:15 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Also, does anybody have any contact info for Linda or somebody? I would think she might be wanting to get rid of his MB stuff at some point. Dont want to sound like a vulture or anything. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. You on the other hand are probably screwed, particularly when they find out the compressor replacement cost possibly the head replacement cost. They can't afford either. If they could then you would not be financing the car. Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
[MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
My one brother does this and he buys from tigerdirect.com Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. The guy where I work who does that stuff seems to usually buy from newegg. Myself I would not bother just buy a Dell off the shelf and be done with it. Unless you are needing high-end components or just like to tinker you won't save enough to be worth your time. If your PC is really old and you just want to jump a few years forward check out a used PC, you can get them for next to nothing, maybe pop a new hard drive in if the current one is too small or questionable. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I use http://www.pricewatch.com/ and Google shopping (http://www.google.com/prdhp?hl=entab=wf) to find stuff. Pricewatch includes shipping in the price comparison, google does not. Vendors have to pay for placement in Pricewatch, Google is free once they work out the details of the data feed. The Asus M2A-VM HDMI motherboard is priced right at $80 from Amazon, a matching AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4800+ 2.5GHz processor is $100, Kingston has 2 gig of ECC DDR2 800 Ram for $60. That will give you a barebones system that will output 1080p HDMI to your new TV. You will need a copy of CyberLink Power DVD Ultra to play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies - plus a HD reader of course. You can get a copy of XP Media Center Edition cheap off eBay, or go for Vista Ultimate - and turn it into a Tivo-like recorder. If you have cable, you can get the ATI CableCard USB HDTV box for $300 and watch and record HD TV. Add a TV Tuner and/or HDTV tuner to get on-air broadcasts. XP Media Center Edition limits you to 4 tuners, Vista only does 2. 500Gb Sata drives are $90. I happen to be putting one of these together this week. -Dave Walton On Dec 28, 2007 10:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
When I built my own PC (2003, pre-Mac) I used newegg - best service, one source for all my parts, good reputation, and I got free shipping at the time. Plus they source their memory from Crucial (Micron) which is one of the better memory suppliers. I didn't want to futz around with multiple stores shipping at different times and I built my computer for ~$400 with excellent components. Still runs today; it's now my parents' computer. If you want a Maxtor 80GB 7200 RPM hard drive, I have a brand-new one under my bed that never been used. Make me an offer. On Dec 28, 2007 11:21 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use http://www.pricewatch.com/ and Google shopping (http://www.google.com/prdhp?hl=entab=wf) to find stuff. Pricewatch includes shipping in the price comparison, google does not. Vendors have to pay for placement in Pricewatch, Google is free once they work out the details of the data feed. The Asus M2A-VM HDMI motherboard is priced right at $80 from Amazon, a matching AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4800+ 2.5GHz processor is $100, Kingston has 2 gig of ECC DDR2 800 Ram for $60. That will give you a barebones system that will output 1080p HDMI to your new TV. You will need a copy of CyberLink Power DVD Ultra to play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies - plus a HD reader of course. You can get a copy of XP Media Center Edition cheap off eBay, or go for Vista Ultimate - and turn it into a Tivo-like recorder. If you have cable, you can get the ATI CableCard USB HDTV box for $300 and watch and record HD TV. Add a TV Tuner and/or HDTV tuner to get on-air broadcasts. XP Media Center Edition limits you to 4 tuners, Vista only does 2. 500Gb Sata drives are $90. I happen to be putting one of these together this week. -Dave Walton On Dec 28, 2007 10:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
See I dont really need to upgrade everything. When I do upgrade I just buy the board etc and swap over my hard drive, cd drives etc One other question, Im trying to remember the windows command that brings up the options to check what programs load when it starts up. I have a computer at work that is VERY slow and want to manually select or deselect which programs load at startup. There is some command that you run that brings up a window that lists everything that loads and you can unselect what you dont want to load. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. The guy where I work who does that stuff seems to usually buy from newegg. Myself I would not bother just buy a Dell off the shelf and be done with it. Unless you are needing high-end components or just like to tinker you won't save enough to be worth your time. If your PC is really old and you just want to jump a few years forward check out a used PC, you can get them for next to nothing, maybe pop a new hard drive in if the current one is too small or questionable. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One other question, Im trying to remember the windows command that brings up the options to check what programs load when it starts up. msconfig -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
Hursty et al, I grew up in NYC near Times Square and before my voice changed sang in the boy's choir at the Met Opera, which was on 40th street and 7th avenue (garment district) in those days. My parents didn't think twice about letting me find my way home on the subway or bus after evening performances, usually between 10 and 11 pm. I did this between the ages of 7 and 11. It might have helped that my older brother had done the same thing for a couple years before I started singing. Throughout elementary school and junior high I basically went everywhere on my own or with a friend. By the time I reached high school things had changed and I was very careful about going on the subways after dark. ALS Diesel content: Our only car was a 1945 Pontiac that we purchased for $100, kept a year, and then sold in 1956 for $25.00. On Dec 28, 2007 10:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
yep, thats it. Momentary brain fart --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One other question, Im trying to remember the windows command that brings up the options to check what programs load when it starts up. msconfig -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
wasn't that long ago that ordinary people could like in manhattan if they wanted to. On Dec 28, 2007 11:54 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hursty et al, I grew up in NYC near Times Square and before my voice changed sang in the boy's choir at the Met Opera, which was on 40th street and 7th avenue (garment district) in those days. My parents didn't think twice about letting me find my way home on the subway or bus after evening performances, usually between 10 and 11 pm. I did this between the ages of 7 and 11. It might have helped that my older brother had done the same thing for a couple years before I started singing. Throughout elementary school and junior high I basically went everywhere on my own or with a friend. By the time I reached high school things had changed and I was very careful about going on the subways after dark. ALS Diesel content: Our only car was a 1945 Pontiac that we purchased for $100, kept a year, and then sold in 1956 for $25.00. On Dec 28, 2007 10:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
On Dec 28, 2007 6:57 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Ooh, dark red diesel with a stick. 115 or 123 300D? How much you want for it? Where are you? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who this guy's grandfather is
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Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
Rent controls helped a lot... On Dec 28, 2007 12:09 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasn't that long ago that ordinary people could like in manhattan if they wanted to. On Dec 28, 2007 11:54 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hursty et al, I grew up in NYC near Times Square and before my voice changed sang in the boy's choir at the Met Opera, which was on 40th street and 7th avenue (garment district) in those days. My parents didn't think twice about letting me find my way home on the subway or bus after evening performances, usually between 10 and 11 pm. I did this between the ages of 7 and 11. It might have helped that my older brother had done the same thing for a couple years before I started singing. Throughout elementary school and junior high I basically went everywhere on my own or with a friend. By the time I reached high school things had changed and I was very careful about going on the subways after dark. ALS Diesel content: Our only car was a 1945 Pontiac that we purchased for $100, kept a year, and then sold in 1956 for $25.00. On Dec 28, 2007 10:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. Tom www.kegkits.com That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Sad, isn't it. It's not worth the risk to help a friend. Doesn't bode well for the country's future, does it? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
--- LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, what's your opinion of school uniforms - I have mixed emotions about the uniform thing. In theory it's a good idea, in practice it's really up to how strictly the rules are enforced. Dan That's a good summary of much of the public school system. And so if the rules have no teeth, it's anarchy. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who this guy's grandfather is
You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who this guy's grandfather is
not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I've bought quite a bit from Tigerdirect. They used to be poor to deal with but now are pretty good. Their prices are reasonable. You can do better from wierd Eddie's internet emporium but the chance of getting scammed is pretty good. Really the best deal in my mind is to buy a Dell or HP or something, its hard to save any money building on components any more. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:06:55 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My one brother does this and he buys from tigerdirect.com Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
some of you might be familiar with mike trei from his contributions to the star magazine or from other publications he has written for. mike lives in manhattan for about $400 a month in an apartment his family has been in since the 1920s. On Dec 28, 2007 1:15 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rent controls helped a lot... On Dec 28, 2007 12:09 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasn't that long ago that ordinary people could like in manhattan if they wanted to. On Dec 28, 2007 11:54 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hursty et al, I grew up in NYC near Times Square and before my voice changed sang in the boy's choir at the Met Opera, which was on 40th street and 7th avenue (garment district) in those days. My parents didn't think twice about letting me find my way home on the subway or bus after evening performances, usually between 10 and 11 pm. I did this between the ages of 7 and 11. It might have helped that my older brother had done the same thing for a couple years before I started singing. Throughout elementary school and junior high I basically went everywhere on my own or with a friend. By the time I reached high school things had changed and I was very careful about going on the subways after dark. ALS Diesel content: Our only car was a 1945 Pontiac that we purchased for $100, kept a year, and then sold in 1956 for $25.00. On Dec 28, 2007 10:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
Be very careful with referbished hardware from NewEgg. They sell NewEgg referbished and manufacturer referbished. Manufacturer refurbished gets full warrenty, NewEgg refurb gets 7 days from the day it SHIPS. A friend of mine ate a $300 video card because of it... -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:25:39 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 When I built my own PC (2003, pre-Mac) I used newegg - best service, one source for all my parts, good reputation, and I got free shipping at the time. Plus they source their memory from Crucial (Micron) which is one of the better memory suppliers. I didn't want to futz around with multiple stores shipping at different times and I built my computer for ~$400 with excellent components. Still runs today; it's now my parents' computer. If you want a Maxtor 80GB 7200 RPM hard drive, I have a brand-new one under my bed that never been used. Make me an offer. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:58:49 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. http://www.mwave.com Just bought a dozen custom-assembled computers for work from these guys. They charge $79 to assemble a system and are very helpful. They're good on parts, too. http://www.newegg.com The standard bench mark for a good vendor. They're larger and more impersonal than MWave, though. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
MSCONFIG Another good one is to download Hijack This. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:32:52 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original See I dont really need to upgrade everything. When I do upgrade I just buy the board etc and swap over my hard drive, cd drives etc One other question, Im trying to remember the windows command that brings up the options to check what programs load when it starts up. I have a computer at work that is VERY slow and want to manually select or deselect which programs load at startup. There is some command that you run that brings up a window that lists everything that loads and you can unselect what you dont want to load. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Who wanted an old diesel pickup?
1992 Ford, 3/4 ton 2wd, ex cab, 7.3 IDI, auto trans $1250. Jamestown, IN. http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=BI5381726D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FYI: Pick-N-Pull / Half Price Sale!! All Parts!!
We're Exploding Our Prices for the New Year! 4 Day New Year's Eve Sale! Half Price Sale!! All Parts!! Saturday December 29 thru Tuesday January 1! IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS! EVERY PART FOR SALE IS HALF OFF! GO TO http://www.picknpull.com FOR THE LOCATION CLOSEST YOU. AND DON'T FORGET! CASH FOR JUNK CARS WE PAY TOP FOR YOUR CAR. RUNNING OR NOT. FOR MORE INFO: http://www.cashforjunkcars.net NOTE: Our San Antonio, TX, Arizona and Nevada locations will not be participating. Prices Parts may vary by location. (c) 2007 Pick-N-Pull This email should only be sent to those who have asked to receive it. To unsubscribe, return to the web form where you first subscribed and click the unsubscribe button, or contact the owner of the website. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
Why does that name sounds familiar? He's not one of the M100 bunch, is he? Dan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some of you might be familiar with mike trei from his contributions to the star magazine or from other publications he has written for. mike lives in manhattan for about $400 a month in an apartment his family has been in since the 1920s. On Dec 28, 2007 1:15 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rent controls helped a lot... On Dec 28, 2007 12:09 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasn't that long ago that ordinary people could like in manhattan if they wanted to. On Dec 28, 2007 11:54 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hursty et al, I grew up in NYC near Times Square and before my voice changed sang in the boy's choir at the Met Opera, which was on 40th street and 7th avenue (garment district) in those days. My parents didn't think twice about letting me find my way home on the subway or bus after evening performances, usually between 10 and 11 pm. I did this between the ages of 7 and 11. It might have helped that my older brother had done the same thing for a couple years before I started singing. Throughout elementary school and junior high I basically went everywhere on my own or with a friend. By the time I reached high school things had changed and I was very careful about going on the subways after dark. ALS Diesel content: Our only car was a 1945 Pontiac that we purchased for $100, kept a year, and then sold in 1956 for $25.00. On Dec 28, 2007 10:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
Curt Raymond wrote: Really the best deal in my mind is to buy a Dell or HP or something, its hard to save any money building on components any more. I just buy whatever is on sale for $199 or $299, provided it isn't brain damaged. (I bought a Celeron D once, that's why I avoid brain damaged CPUs now) Stick a TV tuner and extra memory in it, and the biggest HD out of my old computer, and I'm good for another 3-5 years. I used to build my own computers, every component selected for max speed at minimum cost, but I really don't care about computer speed any more, they are all fast enough. My seven year old 19 CRT is getting on in age, anybody know of a good deal on a 19-26 flat panel monitor, preferably not widescreen? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FYI: Pick-N-Pull / Half Price Sale!! All Parts!!
cool. There is a 116 at the KC PNP that I need some parts from and was planning on going on Saturday anyway. THANKS for the info! Chris dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're Exploding Our Prices for the New Year! 4 Day New Year's Eve Sale! Half Price Sale!! All Parts!! Saturday December 29 thru Tuesday January 1! IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS! EVERY PART FOR SALE IS HALF OFF! GO TO http://www.picknpull.com FOR THE LOCATION CLOSEST YOU. AND DON'T FORGET! CASH FOR JUNK CARS WE PAY TOP FOR YOUR CAR. RUNNING OR NOT. FOR MORE INFO: http://www.cashforjunkcars.net NOTE: Our San Antonio, TX, Arizona and Nevada locations will not be participating. Prices Parts may vary by location. (c) 2007 Pick-N-Pull This email should only be sent to those who have asked to receive it. To unsubscribe, return to the web form where you first subscribed and click the unsubscribe button, or contact the owner of the website. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
I'm lucky to work for a principal who is very hands off unless you need her. She's also someone who you know will back you up, no matter what, as long as you arrived at the decision you made in a logical manner. There are too many administrators, who, faced with an angry parent, will cave in to avoid a confrontation or to have a conflict escalated to a higher authority. Parents know this, so if they take someone on they know to expect to get their way in many cases. This leaves you, the teacher in question, looking like an ass, not to mention swinging in the wind in a figurative sense. Your authority is now compromised, meaning you have lost control of your classroom. It's a sad thing, and even more so, it's sad because it's not the kids, it the parents. Dan --- Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good summary of much of the public school system. And so if the rules have no teeth, it's anarchy. -- Philip Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
yes, he hangs out with the m100 crowd. On Dec 28, 2007 1:56 PM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does that name sounds familiar? He's not one of the M100 bunch, is he? Dan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some of you might be familiar with mike trei from his contributions to the star magazine or from other publications he has written for. mike lives in manhattan for about $400 a month in an apartment his family has been in since the 1920s. On Dec 28, 2007 1:15 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rent controls helped a lot... On Dec 28, 2007 12:09 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasn't that long ago that ordinary people could like in manhattan if they wanted to. On Dec 28, 2007 11:54 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hursty et al, I grew up in NYC near Times Square and before my voice changed sang in the boy's choir at the Met Opera, which was on 40th street and 7th avenue (garment district) in those days. My parents didn't think twice about letting me find my way home on the subway or bus after evening performances, usually between 10 and 11 pm. I did this between the ages of 7 and 11. It might have helped that my older brother had done the same thing for a couple years before I started singing. Throughout elementary school and junior high I basically went everywhere on my own or with a friend. By the time I reached high school things had changed and I was very careful about going on the subways after dark. ALS Diesel content: Our only car was a 1945 Pontiac that we purchased for $100, kept a year, and then sold in 1956 for $25.00. On Dec 28, 2007 10:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who this guy'sgrandfather is
Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who this guy'sgrandfather is
there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:57:34 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My seven year old 19 CRT is getting on in age, anybody know of a good deal on a 19-26 flat panel monitor, preferably not widescreen? I'm thinking about replacing our ViewSonic PS790 for a flat panel for lower power consumed and lower magnetic emissions. The difficulty is determining who makes a good monitor. I understand that the Samsung monitors are pretty good. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. Start charging them for the repair! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
I'm still willing to help list members with their Mercedes providing they are stopping by to learn something. If you do a valve adjustment on someone's car, you'll be doing it forever, but if you teach them how to do it, you **SHOULDN'T*** have to do it ever again. There was a neighbor kid who always had trouble tuning his RC car engine to run properly, so I thought I'd just tune it for him. Every few days, he would come to me and complain that it wasn't running right. Even when I explained to him how to do it, he would end up messing with it and it wouldn't run at all. I ended up selling him one of my cars, and that one never did run right once he started tweaking the settings. I think both of them are reduced to parts now or have been forgotten. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who this guy'sgrandfather is
You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach
Phooey. I don't buy it. On Dec 28, 2007 3:16 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who this guy'sgrandfather is
yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach
the question really hurts my brain. i don't buy it either, but i can't get any real clarity on the issue. i might just be too stupid for this question. i would suggest the compton solution. to the problem. pull your gat, shoot monty, hijack both remaining boxes. On Dec 28, 2007 3:35 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phooey. I don't buy it. On Dec 28, 2007 3:16 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
...give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day but teach him to fish and he'll sit in a boat every Saturday on the lake drinking beer... In my case, you teach someone how to do... and he comes by every Saturday wanting to use my garage or borrow my tools... From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:25:01 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL I'm still willing to help list members with their Mercedes providing they are stopping by to learn something. If you do a valve adjustment on someone's car, you'll be doing it forever, but if you teach them how to do it, you **SHOULDN'T*** have to do it ever again. There was a neighbor kid who always had trouble tuning his RC car engine to run properly, so I thought I'd just tune it for him. Every few days, he would come to me and complain that it wasn't running right. Even when I explained to him how to do it, he would end up messing with it and it wouldn't run at all. I ended up selling him one of my cars, and that one never did run right once he started tweaking the settings. I think both of them are reduced to parts now or have been forgotten. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach
DUH! I clicked on the link thinking, Monty Hall had an illegitimate child? From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:35:24 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach Phooey. I don't buy it. On Dec 28, 2007 3:16 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach
with albert einstein no less On Dec 28, 2007 3:41 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DUH! I clicked on the link thinking, Monty Hall had an illegitimate child? From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:35:24 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach Phooey. I don't buy it. On Dec 28, 2007 3:16 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
You are delivering the wrong message when you teach... - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/28/07 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL ...give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day but teach him to fish and he'll sit in a boat every Saturday on the lake drinking beer... In my case, you teach someone how to do... and he comes by every Saturday wanting to use my garage or borrow my tools... From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:25:01 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL I'm still willing to help list members with their Mercedes providing they are stopping by to learn something. If you do a valve adjustment on someone's car, you'll be doing it forever, but if you teach them how to do it, you **SHOULDN'T*** have to do it ever again. There was a neighbor kid who always had trouble tuning his RC car engine to run properly, so I thought I'd just tune it for him. Every few days, he would come to me and complain that it wasn't running right. Even when I explained to him how to do it, he would end up messing with it and it wouldn't run at all. I ended up selling him one of my cars, and that one never did run right once he started tweaking the settings. I think both of them are reduced to parts now or have been forgotten. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach
Think of it like this, you have a 2/3 chance of picking the WRONG door initially. When one of the wrong choices is eliminated, you should switch your guess because your first guess was most likely wrong. Allan andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phooey. I don't buy it. On Dec 28, 2007 3:16 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I am using an LG at work and an NEC at home. Both are over a year old and neither has caused any real trouble. I like them both. The NEC was more expensive and has a faster refresh rate. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:57:34 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My seven year old 19 CRT is getting on in age, anybody know of a good deal on a 19-26 flat panel monitor, preferably not widescreen? I'm thinking about replacing our ViewSonic PS790 for a flat panel for lower power consumed and lower magnetic emissions. The difficulty is determining who makes a good monitor. I understand that the Samsung monitors are pretty good. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS 1987 300SDL NOW helping with repairs
The unfortunate thing is that some people really don't want to do anything for themselves and will take advantage of anyone who offers to assist. I have a nephew who is struggling somewhat. He is now married and they have one child. He never went to school beyond high school and has had difficulty finding a job that will support them. He has chosen somewhat wisely in that they now have a house. However they have no vehicle and rely on the kindness of various family members whenever there is a gathering. He buses it to work and back. I had an old Ford sedan that no one appeared willing to buy (ultimately did sell it for a whole lot less than I had in it but that is another story). In any event, I voiced the thought that we should give it to Matt to help them out. My wise wife said we should not as unfortunately, Matt is the type that will then expect me to maintain or repair it forever and will complain at every family function that we gave him a car that was junk. I took her advice and did not offer it to him. The result is that he is still without a car but could have driven that old LTD for a long time with any sort of minimal ongoing maintenance. It had a totally rebuilt 302 and AT. Was simple enough not to have power windows or locks etc - No AC and a solid frame so that rust in the body would not make it unsafe for a long time. One of my son's friends paid us $1G for it and has driven it for almost a year without incident - even smacked the back of another car hard enough to cause the poor kid some significant back discomfort for a couple of weeks without doing any damage to the LTD. Don't ask about the little Japanese import that he hit from behind. End of rant Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL I'm still willing to help list members with their Mercedes providing they are stopping by to learn something. If you do a valve adjustment on someone's car, you'll be doing it forever, but if you teach them how to do it, you **SHOULDN'T*** have to do it ever again. There was a neighbor kid who always had trouble tuning his RC car engine to run properly, so I thought I'd just tune it for him. Every few days, he would come to me and complain that it wasn't running right. Even when I explained to him how to do it, he would end up messing with it and it wouldn't run at all. I ended up selling him one of my cars, and that one never did run right once he started tweaking the settings. I think both of them are reduced to parts now or have been forgotten. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Alex, This is a 1984 but not totally mine yet. I have given this kid until 1 January to make up his mind what it is he wants to do. Dave H... -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL On Dec 28, 2007 6:57 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Ooh, dark red diesel with a stick. 115 or 123 300D? How much you want for it? Where are you? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I have a 2 year old Samsung 17 that is the best computer monitor I've ever had hands down. Its VERY bright, and has a matte screen so glare is not an issue. I've had to turn the brightness down to something like 35%... I'm now thinking of getting a 21 Samsung for my primary monitor and moving the 17 to my secondary system. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:36:03 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:57:34 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My seven year old 19 CRT is getting on in age, anybody know of a good deal on a 19-26 flat panel monitor, preferably not widescreen? I'm thinking about replacing our ViewSonic PS790 for a flat panel for lower power consumed and lower magnetic emissions. The difficulty is determining who makes a good monitor. I understand that the Samsung monitors are pretty good. Craig - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
So is it a gray market car, or a conversion somebody did? 123s didn't come with sticks except for the 240D, right guys? If it's gray-market, does it have manual climate controls? On Dec 28, 2007 2:08 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex, This is a 1984 but not totally mine yet. I have given this kid until 1 January to make up his mind what it is he wants to do. Dave H... -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL On Dec 28, 2007 6:57 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Ooh, dark red diesel with a stick. 115 or 123 300D? How much you want for it? Where are you? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Welding day
My dad said I couldn't consider myself a welder until I'd lit my pants on fire. Check... I managed to weld a piece of stovepipe around a perforated snowmobile muffler. It looks AWFUL but I think it'll hold at least for a little while. Based on today I might be ready to try a little sheetmetal on a car... I might have to buy Dwights 240D just as a welding project... Where to get a microwave? ;) Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who thisguy'sgrandfather is
I've noticed that a number of people on this list probably have high IQ. If you don't mind my asking, why are you interested in people of high intelligence such as Einstein (and Mach)? Gerry yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS 1987 300SDL NOW helping with repairs
R A Bennell wrote: My wise wife said we should not as unfortunately, Matt is the type that will then expect me to maintain or repair it forever and will complain at every family function that we gave him a car that was junk. Giving a free car to somebody who gets along just fine with public transport is no favor. Even if all the car required was fuel/oil/registration/insurance that still could be money better spent on food/utilities/etc. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Dave H... wrote: Alex, This is a 1984 but not totally mine yet. I have given this kid until 1 January to make up his mind what it is he wants to do. He already made up his mind. He wants his money back. I assume that isn't an option for him? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
On Dec 28, 2007 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Why's that? Just because it's faster than flipping up and down an ordinary mask to inspect your work? (Not trying to argue, just about to start welding myself and interested in getting off on the right foot... although, having seen some of my soldering handiwork, Jim may feel free to point out there's no right foot for me where fire and metal are involved.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Curt- Good progress, I'll throw in a microwave with the 240D-will plug the hole in the wheel well. Dwight . Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:29 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Welding day My dad said I couldn't consider myself a welder until I'd lit my pants on fire. Check... I managed to weld a piece of stovepipe around a perforated snowmobile muffler. It looks AWFUL but I think it'll hold at least for a little while. Based on today I might be ready to try a little sheetmetal on a car... I might have to buy Dwights 240D just as a welding project... Where to get a microwave? ;) Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Alex, As I understand the history of this vehicle it was born and raised in Germany. It does have both the European front and rear bumpers, but the American headlights. It has the cloth interior and is a standard. It came to America with its original purchaser in 1998/99 and I bought it in 03/04. Dave H... -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL So is it a gray market car, or a conversion somebody did? 123s didn't come with sticks except for the 240D, right guys? If it's gray-market, does it have manual climate controls? On Dec 28, 2007 2:08 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex, This is a 1984 but not totally mine yet. I have given this kid until 1 January to make up his mind what it is he wants to do. Dave H... -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL On Dec 28, 2007 6:57 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Ooh, dark red diesel with a stick. 115 or 123 300D? How much you want for it? Where are you? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dave H's red W123 300D Euro manual [was: 1987 300SDL]
On Dec 28, 2007 2:54 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand the history of this vehicle it was born and raised in Germany. It does have both the European front and rear bumpers, but the American headlights. It has the cloth interior and is a standard. Well, the transmission, interior, and bumpers make it a pretty desirable model to a number of people on the list. If the original purchaser does back out, you shouldn't have any trouble selling it here. I'd be very interested if you were physically close, and if I hadn't had a pretty bad experience before trying to get a gray-market Mercedes registered in Oregon. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Helping a friend and being taken advantage of are two different things. I'll be more than happy to help someone find a car or to look at a car that someone is considering. I've had family members ask me to finance cars and I've always said no. The last one was my youngest Brother who wanted to buy a car from me and make payments. I TOLD him to borrow the money from a bank and he told me that he could not because he would not be able to pay back the loan. Then I asked how he expected to pay me back? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/28/07 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. Tom www.kegkits.com That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Sad, isn't it. It's not worth the risk to help a friend. Doesn't bode well for the country's future, does it? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Very smart man. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL If I were to ever finance a vehicle for somebody, they would be paying a little extra AND the car would not leave until they had it paid off. Even then you can be on shakey ground. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Did you keep a copy of the keys? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave H... Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Larry, I am learning - SLOW but learning. :) Two nights ago sold a 68 280SE to a local person. This time a full contract was signed and witnessed. Loan at 12% interest, three calendar days late a $50.00 penalty, non payment for thirty days automatic repossession. I have a lien on the title and he must provide proof of insurance with me as the lien holder being the primary beneficiary. This guy is a local Ph.D. level college professor but I am not taking any more chances. Learning but SLOW:) Dave H... -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Why's that? Just because it's faster than flipping up and down an ordinary mask to inspect your work? Because you can strike the arc while watching, instead of taking a hand away from what you are doing, dropping the helmet, and then trying to work blind until you light the arc in the wrong place and can see where the arc went. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Yep, good sign. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Hi Tom, You've probably seen the shop sign that says (something like this) Standard Labor Rate - $25/hr Labor rate if you watch - $50/hr Labor rate if you help - $100/hr There's more but I'll have to find my Joke file first -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL This is why I quit working on cars for friends but I'm still willing to help list members with their Mercedes providing they are stopping by to learn something. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Thats just it, they wont want to pay for my time, or the cost of the parts. Just dont want to get involved in it if I can help it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL No problem as long as they are willing to pay you for your time, right? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
On Dec 28, 2007 3:45 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Why's that? Just because it's faster than flipping up and down an ordinary mask to inspect your work? Because you can strike the arc while watching, instead of taking a hand away from what you are doing, dropping the helmet, and then trying to work blind until you light the arc in the wrong place and can see where the arc went. Ah, I get it. Guess I'll be going out and getting a good self-darkening helmet, then! (Not trusting my eyes to a Harbor Freight cheapie...) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O/T F250 Brakes
My truck is 50 miles away with my daughter. Problem: ABS light is blinking/on. Truck seems locked in park [Safety?} There was a fuse blown, she changed it. It blew again in a few miles. I'm going to try and rescue it tomorrow. Anyone want to chime in with some wisdom? Diesel content, it's a Powerchoke with almost 200Kmi -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Accidentally flashing yourself becomes much harder as well when you line things up if the helmet is already in place. Remember to cover all exposed skin and keep pets away. -Dave Walton On Dec 28, 2007 6:45 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Why's that? Just because it's faster than flipping up and down an ordinary mask to inspect your work? Because you can strike the arc while watching, instead of taking a hand away from what you are doing, dropping the helmet, and then trying to work blind until you light the arc in the wrong place and can see where the arc went. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Tom, Oh YES most definitely, I retained a fully operational master key with an added clause that if the lock/key should need to be changed that I must be provided with a full functional copy to enable repossession of the vehicle if that should be necessary. I'm learning:) Dave H... -- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:43 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Did you keep a copy of the keys? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave H... Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Larry, I am learning - SLOW but learning. :) Two nights ago sold a 68 280SE to a local person. This time a full contract was signed and witnessed. Loan at 12% interest, three calendar days late a $50.00 penalty, non payment for thirty days automatic repossession. I have a lien on the title and he must provide proof of insurance with me as the lien holder being the primary beneficiary. This guy is a local Ph.D. level college professor but I am not taking any more chances. Learning but SLOW:) Dave H... -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message -
Re: [MBZ] Dave H's red W123 300D Euro manual [was: 1987 300SDL]
I would not think registering it would be a problem as I have a free and clear SC state title. But, shipping across country? I have done that to get my 300CD from CA to here. MAN, that is expensive! Dave H... -- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Dave H's red W123 300D Euro manual [was: 1987 300SDL] On Dec 28, 2007 2:54 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand the history of this vehicle it was born and raised in Germany. It does have both the European front and rear bumpers, but the American headlights. It has the cloth interior and is a standard. Well, the transmission, interior, and bumpers make it a pretty desirable model to a number of people on the list. If the original purchaser does back out, you shouldn't have any trouble selling it here. I'd be very interested if you were physically close, and if I hadn't had a pretty bad experience before trying to get a gray-market Mercedes registered in Oregon. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who thisguy'sgrandfather is
they say novel and interesting things. you don't get a lot of that nowadays, just more stupid propaganda. On Dec 28, 2007 5:29 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that a number of people on this list probably have high IQ. If you don't mind my asking, why are you interested in people of high intelligence such as Einstein (and Mach)? Gerry yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Truck VW Diesel For Sale
Spotted and '81 VW diesel pickup for sale today. The sign says 212k mi. and $3000. Looks in pretty good shape, but I did see one spot of rust? next to windshield. 5 speed manual. on Bainbridge Island Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
Kaleb typed: this being PC, NOT mac. Oh boy...here we go Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Email Firewall made the following annotations NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode
Yikes, Casey. That's a scary photo. And I thought my 300E was bad! What I did to clean the fins was use a shop vacuum, and a toothbrush, to scrape and suck away as much as possible, without pushing it further into the core. I then used a foaming evaporator cleaner from a local HVAC supply store to attempt further cleaning. I rinsed it with water from a garden sprayer tank... the liquid runs out the bottom drain tubes onto the floor. While it looked a lot prettier afterwards, I didn't notice any significant improvement in HVAC performance, but mine wasn't nearly as bad as yours. Here are photos of my my evap cleaning project - only one side was occluded on mine, though: http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean1.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean2.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean3.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean4.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/evap_clean5.jpg I used Nu-Calgon Evap Foam cleaner, roughly $10/can - here's a link: http://tinyurl.com/cdddo This is a good reason to use the filters that Aaron Lam obtained through some contacts in Japan... it helps keep this crud out of your evaporator. Bummer they're so expensive, and so hard to obtain. It's a worse bummer that the factory didn't start using filters on the 124 chassis the until 1994 model year. And, worse yet, the factory setup can't be retrofitted without replacing the *entire* HVAC box (i.e., gutting the entire car)... you can't just add the factory filters to an 86-93 model. :-( -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 100kmi (Q-ship) 1993 300D - 167kmi (Sportline) 1987 300D - 284kmi (Sportline Stage 2) == On 12/26/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I pulled the blower (without the benefit of a manual), and the brushes and commutator are toasterrific. What's even more disturbing, is the huge amount of grunge-buildup on the heater core fins. It's almost entirely occluded any passage of air through there. It looks a lot like the texture of velour. Is there a preferred method for removing this offending gunk? I'll bet my heater/cooler output increases measurably after this little exercise. On Dec 26, 2007 12:07 PM, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty likely the fan motor is hosed. It will be fairly obvious once it's out, if the brushes are shot, and/or the commutator is deeply grooved. I would get the motor assembly WITH the fans mounted. The problem is that swapping the cages is difficult to do without breaking them. Although I've never tried, you might see if you can carefully remove your old cages intact... if so, you could attempt the motor-only swap. Be careful to get the cages installed in the right direction (!), and don't lose the balance clips on them either. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode
Well, I pulled the blower (without the benefit of a manual), and the brushes and commutator are toasterrific. What's even more disturbing, is the huge amount of grunge-buildup on the heater core fins. It's almost entirely occluded any passage of air through there. It looks a lot like the texture of velour. Is there a preferred method for removing this offending gunk? I'll bet my heater/cooler output increases measurably after this little exercise. On Dec 26, 2007 12:07 PM, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty likely the fan motor is hosed. It will be fairly obvious once it's out, if the brushes are shot, and/or the commutator is deeply grooved. I would get the motor assembly WITH the fans mounted. The problem is that swapping the cages is difficult to do without breaking them. Although I've never tried, you might see if you can carefully remove your old cages intact... if so, you could attempt the motor-only swap. Be careful to get the cages installed in the right direction (!), and don't lose the balance clips on them either. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: heat.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 166199 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071226/6fe564d8/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
That ain't right... Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed some of you might be familiar with mike trei from his contributions to the star magazine or from other publications he has written for. mike lives in manhattan for about $400 a month in an apartment his family has been in since the 1920s. On Dec 28, 2007 1:15 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rent controls helped a lot... On Dec 28, 2007 12:09 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wasn't that long ago that ordinary people could like in manhattan if they wanted to. On Dec 28, 2007 11:54 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hursty et al, I grew up in NYC near Times Square and before my voice changed sang in the boy's choir at the Met Opera, which was on 40th street and 7th avenue (garment district) in those days. My parents didn't think twice about letting me find my way home on the subway or bus after evening performances, usually between 10 and 11 pm. I did this between the ages of 7 and 11. It might have helped that my older brother had done the same thing for a couple years before I started singing. Throughout elementary school and junior high I basically went everywhere on my own or with a friend. By the time I reached high school things had changed and I was very careful about going on the subways after dark. ALS Diesel content: Our only car was a 1945 Pontiac that we purchased for $100, kept a year, and then sold in 1956 for $25.00. On Dec 28, 2007 10:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the Superintendent position - here in Chesterfield County Va there have been some controversaries when a Super was released - when actually they were fired for cause. Yet the board voted to pay the contract - sometimes amounting to millions of $$'s/ When it happened the 2nd or 3rd time the citizens raised so much cain that they found a reason to stop making payments/ I wonder if this happens in other areas? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed LarryT wrote: I have heard stories that the bureaucracy at schools is fat with administrators making $100k + salaries - any truth to that? Teachers around here (Michigan) seem to make $40k-100k depending on district, experience, and education. (master's degree is about an 8=12k automatic raise IIRC) Principals start a bit under a top teacher, and then go up to $150k or so. The real money is in the Superintendent's wages. As a teacher friend told me, try getting a copy of a 1960's school district budget. See what percentage of the total is non-teaching payroll and benefits. Then get the current budget, calculate the same percentage, and compare the two. Useless payroll has grown by leaps and bounds in the last 30-40 years. In 1975, my local schools had three principals, one superindendent, and a teacher worked 2 hours a day as athletic director. Since then, enrollment has gone up 15-20%, we have four principals and I don't know how many assistant principals, the athletic director has been a full time job for at least 15 years and I think he has a secretary now, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
