Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion
It was once reported that my right markerlight flashed randomly. A complete cleaning with dremel/deoxit was then completed. Ugh, I LOVE looking for needles in a hay stack. No wonder dispatchers hate me when I tell them that a wiring diagnosis could be a 30 minute fix or a 30 hour fix. Luther On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:44:58 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had that apart several weeks back and cleaned it with dexoit. It was still in one piece and now dims across the full spectrum. Other ideas? Those can be a real stinker to trace. It's certainly worth pulling the right-side light fixtures out and examining their connectors and internal connections for oddities. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed
Yikes. Sorry for quoting the whole digest! On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:28 PM, David Bruckman wrote: Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre- tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you can forget the 115. Those cars predate the construction of MB's crash engineering facility (1968), so a lot of the safety engineering was done under pretty primitive conditions. Your best bet might be a W124. The size feels like a W123 but the crash performance is as good as a W126. I know, I know. I've seen the video, know the MB crash data. But this a perceptual, not a rational, decision. SHe wants old and cute. Hubcaps match the paint, no bundt wheels. Hefty and sturdy feeling. I'd get a 124 in a new york minute, but this isn't my car. Showed her pix of a 201 last night. Too generic. Looks like every other car. Anything designed after the 126 gets that reaction. So, I'm enjoying the challenge of the search. D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed
SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? On Jan 8, 2008 7:33 AM, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. Sorry for quoting the whole digest! On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:28 PM, David Bruckman wrote: Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre- tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you can forget the 115. Those cars predate the construction of MB's crash engineering facility (1968), so a lot of the safety engineering was done under pretty primitive conditions. Your best bet might be a W124. The size feels like a W123 but the crash performance is as good as a W126. I know, I know. I've seen the video, know the MB crash data. But this a perceptual, not a rational, decision. SHe wants old and cute. Hubcaps match the paint, no bundt wheels. Hefty and sturdy feeling. I'd get a 124 in a new york minute, but this isn't my car. Showed her pix of a 201 last night. Too generic. Looks like every other car. Anything designed after the 126 gets that reaction. So, I'm enjoying the challenge of the search. D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed
As did my '62 220Sb. I spent 90 days in a hospital, but the drunk who hit me head on [early '60's Camero] is still in her grave. BillR -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 1/7/08 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed Mercedes was doing crash testing long before anyone else, in 1953 to be exact. Even my 1959 220S has crumple zones in the front end sheet metal. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 10:29 PM To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre-tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you can forget the 115. Those cars predate the construction of MB's crash engineering facility (1968), so a lot of the safety engineering was done under pretty primitive conditions. Your best bet might be a W124. The size feels like a W123 but the crash performance is as good as a W126. Of course, compared to an '85 Civic, any MB would serve you well. But you have to remember that your survival is mostly determined by the design of the thing you run into. Here's an illustration of what happens to a safe big old car that hits a safe small new car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ygYUYia9I D. Dan Weeks wrote: Thanks Tom, Hendrik, and Tom, for your replies. Looks like it's best to avoid unless its a 230E. I'll restrict my search to that criteria. I agree the 190 would be perfect for my wife, who is rather petite. However, she was involved in a terrible accident in a civic once that had her sleeping on a board and in physical therapy for 6 months after being hit so hard by a drunk that it knocked the earings out of her pierced ears. She wants something more substantial feeling, whether or not the 201 is statistically safer than a 123.. She also likes the classic square vintage mbz look, and thinks the newer ones are far too generic. And she doesn't want a diesel for her own car, and frankly, as many short trips as she drives, a diesel doesn't make a lot of sense for her. Thanks again, all. I'll let you know what turns up. Meanwhile, if anyone has anything else to offer--a 115 with a known good blower motor, for instance, or a finny in great shape for cheap, let me know! :-) Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Yup. I saw 37 mpg at the first fuel stop, and figured I hadn't filled the tank, but it kept it the whole trip. On Jan 8, 2008 7:49 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW! 37.4 mpg is very good! I assume it's a Turbo? The best my '91 300D 2.5T has gotten since I bought it in Feb 06 has been around 32 or 33 mpg. You need to keep that 300D in great condition!! It's a keeper! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Here (VA), the homeschooling orgaization provides many outside opportunities for choldren to interact with others. ALso, my Daughter keeps our g-son involved with numerous activties at the local YMCA. He probably has more friends whole homeschooling that he would during public school. Between school, soccer, baseball, piano, basketball, drama classes, and more, his time is full of children who can be friends and adults who can be role models. I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. I fear the propaganda she was exposed to for years in public school has provided a false image of shooting, guns and shooting sports. But that's another topic. In short, my G son is very well rounded with many children around his own age to interact with as well as adults who can help him grow. But everything depends on the child and parents. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost It's your responsibility to see that she learns something - in school or at home. She'll learn to deal with the other people on the planet at school - something that you'll have a hard time teaching her at home. given their dismal failure, shouldn't you be more concerned about some sort of accountability regarding public schooling? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
you wrote:oldest is seven and has the diction of a three year old Hmm - maybe your BIL thinks he can do a better job than was done by previous schooling? I guess that was public ed? Anyway -- homeschooling requires a few things to succeed. First, one or both parents must have the time determination to hold regular classes with structured class work. Second, the child/children must be willing to listen to a parent and absorb the info without special help the parent may be unable to provide. Some children crave structure - it's born into them just as wildness is born into others. One type will work with homeschooling and the other will prove difficult. Also, the parent doing the teaching must be able to be firm enough to command respect and concentration during the hours of schooling. My daughter is very structured - always was - from being age 1 yr and up she was fascinated by things concerning schooling, education, - even office equipment - all got her attention.Give her an adding machine and she'd be occupied for hours on end. Our sons OTOH, had short attention spans and little use for school unless forced to. My youngest went to Catholic school for a while and 1st thing he did when getting home was his homework - no playing, tv or dinner got in his way. The reason? He feared the Nuns who taught the classes. When he transferred to public school his grades dropped like a rock - because the teachers didn't seem concerned if he did his work or not. No homework? no problem - you get a zero. Once we figured out what was going on we made sure he feared us as he had the Nuns. And his grades improved. Anyway - not every child nor every parent is made for homeschooling. BTW, home schooling has gone on for years - there are many children growing up on cruising sailboats that spend their time on the open ocean and in ports all over the world - in addition to the education they get by traveling the parents generally teach according to a subscription they buy that provides all classroom materials enabling the parents to open their book and teach without additional preparation. Also, many children of parents who work in remote areas of the world that do not have the luxury of a company or govt school must teach their children themselves or send them to private school. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost I am not at all sure home schooling is good for most kids. The BiL who lives in the boonies of NC is going to school his kids. Their oldest is seven and has the diction of a three year old. Not sure he has a grasp of basic second grade math or reading either. Then again, I am comparing his slag child to my kid and it seems that either my kid is sporting an IQ of 220 or his kid is just plain retarded. clay On 7 Jan 2008, at 12:05, John Robbins wrote: Tom Hargrave wrote: Try taking your kids out of the public school system without enrolling them in a Government approved private school system here in the States and you'll discover how many parents rights you don't have. I think there should be accountability/basic regulations regarding homeschooling. I don't have anything against homeschooling... I just think that there should be some guarantee that you will actually teach them (and that they've learned something). The only way I see for that guarantee to happen is for the government to enforce it. It is unfortunate for the states who do not have the a parent organization for homeschooling though... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
yes, DHS has been called many times on them and they never took the kids away. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost I agree with Don. Child Services (DHR in Alabama) is the most over worked government organization in any state. The problem is that the workers have to obtain unrefutable evidence then they have to present the evidence to a Judge the judge has to issue a court order to have the child or children removed. All of this is necessary because of our lawsuit happy society. The Chld Services workers have to protect themselves from being sued by the parents of the children they are trying to protect. Based on Kaleb's his Wive's comments on the kid's overall condition, Kaleb's new family are a likely good example of the system failing. It's possible that the family had been investigated but Child Services could not put together enough evidence to convince a judge to issue a court order. But it's just as likely that they were never investigated because of the work load most Child Services must carry. My Niece was removed from her Mother 4 years too late - She was 13 years old. Kaleb's new family are younger and they have a chance to make a difference. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 9:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost google georgia dfcs and you will have enough kidnap stories to fill a book. children are kidnapped for reasons such as there were scissors in the house. we have a customer at bimby who drives an S600 from being a professional foster parent. tom, who works at bimby, has personal knowledge of such kidnappings for profit from his days working retail, where many of his employees had second incomes from keeping a kid or two locked obtained by predatory means in the closet when they went to work. what's next for you to say? that we are in iraq to save the world from terrorism? child welfare worker, right. insult someone elses intelligence On Jan 7, 2008 9:05 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kidnapped Have you seen how bad it has to get before the kids are removed from a home? That's the LAST resort. Wittness the LACK of response to the ealrier reports to child wlefare about Kaleb's new kids. Follow a child welfare worker around for a few days - it'll open your eyes. We don't pay enough for a foster family to take proper care of kids, can't find enough homes for the kids that need them. So you get what you pay for - those who do take them have other motives than the kids best welfare in mind. On Jan 7, 2008 7:58 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about the kids that are kidnapped and farmed out to abusive foster homes by their friends in the government (i would presume that these government agents get some kind of kickback, but don't know how the details work)? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
WOW! 37.4 mpg is very good! I assume it's a Turbo? The best my '91 300D 2.5T has gotten since I bought it in Feb 06 has been around 32 or 33 mpg. You need to keep that 300D in great condition!! It's a keeper! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel economy report The '90 300D 2.5 got 37.4 mpg on the 1007 mile round trip to Houston with local running around there and a trip to work today. The 300SDL got 25 MPG on the trip down (it's there for the duration of the internship). That's approximately 4 gallons per 100 miles for the 603 and 3gallons per 100 miles for the 602. I'm liking the 300D 2.5 better all the time. Might have to sell the other three and find another 300D 2.5. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed
My dad had a 1989 300SE and it was a very nice car - same engine transmission as both of my 300E's. But I still prefer the 300E. It's more economical to drive to maintain and it's more fun to drive. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? On Jan 8, 2008 7:33 AM, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. Sorry for quoting the whole digest! On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:28 PM, David Bruckman wrote: Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre- tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you can forget the 115. Those cars predate the construction of MB's crash engineering facility (1968), so a lot of the safety engineering was done under pretty primitive conditions. Your best bet might be a W124. The size feels like a W123 but the crash performance is as good as a W126. I know, I know. I've seen the video, know the MB crash data. But this a perceptual, not a rational, decision. SHe wants old and cute. Hubcaps match the paint, no bundt wheels. Hefty and sturdy feeling. I'd get a 124 in a new york minute, but this isn't my car. Showed her pix of a 201 last night. Too generic. Looks like every other car. Anything designed after the 126 gets that reaction. So, I'm enjoying the challenge of the search. D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
OK Don wrote: Yup. I saw 37 mpg at the first fuel stop, and figured I hadn't filled the tank, but it kept it the whole trip. There's a fellow on Mercedesshop who put a 5sp OD in a 190 turbo. He got 39mpg on an extended trip at 75-80. I read things on the net like this that give me the impression the W124 might have less aero drag than the W201. The overdrive and lack of torque converter should have gotten the 190D owner more than 2 mpg. (unless Don's tires are undersized and his ODO reads high) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
LarryT wrote: I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. If you don't teach him, he's just another statistic waiting to happen. Here's an example that really happened: 10 year old gets permission to go home with a latchkey after school. Latchkey goes to parents bedroom, comes out with a loaded 12ga. Visiting kid unloads it and puts it on the parent's bed with the action open. Do you want your grandson to be like the visitor in this story, or the poor kid in the morgue? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
I have one I will trade for a wagon. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report That's more what I would expect from a 2.5L in good shape! I almost wish I'd bought one instead of another 3.0L. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jersey 300 SDL
Scant on pics and details, claims to have all records. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/87-Mercedes-Benz-300-SDL-Great-Daily-Driver-No-Rust_W0QQitemZ250203628095QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 58
On Jan 8, 2008, at 8:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? Yeah. I forgot to repeat what I wrote in an earlier post: that she thinks the 126s are too big. I have one, a 300SD. She's driven it, and doesn't like to. So to reiterate, the criteria are: • old and cute: square classic shape, hubcaps painted body color. * Not too big--123 sized. 126s are too big *Not too small--201s are too small * Not too new--124s look too generic * Gasser She may have to settle for a 617 in a 123. I think the cuteness factor of a 300CD would win her over, or maybe a TD--she likes wagons, and as a jr. high science teacher who does lots of hands-on experiments, she loads her saab wagon up frequently. I think if I always did the fill-ups, had a block heater installed, and maybe even got some earlier wheels and hubcaps and had them painted, she'd be happy. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
That I dont remember, seems like it though. Although I do remember him saying it has been replaced when he got it or something like that. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed) I think the head gasket was starting to let go right at the end .. or am I thinking of someone else? Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think he traded it for an exploder --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
32 or 33 is about tops. I have never heard of anybody else getting 37.4. Thats about what a 190D auto will get. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report WOW! 37.4 mpg is very good! I assume it's a Turbo? The best my '91 300D 2.5T has gotten since I bought it in Feb 06 has been around 32 or 33 mpg. You need to keep that 300D in great condition!! It's a keeper! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D
How cold are we talking about? Cold means very different things to different people. I just bought another Group 49 from Autozone to put in my 190D and it seems fine, we've hit -3F since I've had it and there have been no issues. I put another battery just like it in the '83 240D 2 years ago and it was good at -10F, below that without the block heater that car was iffy to start no matter what. -Curt Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:40:59 -0700 From: Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, all - It is another cold winter here in northeastern New Mexico, and the battery on the wife's 300CD has again taken a crap. It shows as fully charged when I hook up the charger, but there are no cold cranking amps and it won't turn the engine over fast enough to get it going. So now I must ask - last year, the same thing happened and I went to Auto Zone and bought what I was told was their best for cold cranking amps. Their best turned out to be garbage. What do you all recommend for the best, no holds barred get it started in the winter battery? -- Lee - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed
I think he traded it for an exploder --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? On Jan 8, 2008 7:33 AM, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. Sorry for quoting the whole digest! On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:28 PM, David Bruckman wrote: Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre- tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you can forget the 115. Those cars predate the construction of MB's crash engineering facility (1968), so a lot of the safety engineering was done under pretty primitive conditions. Your best bet might be a W124. The size feels like a W123 but the crash performance is as good as a W126. I know, I know. I've seen the video, know the MB crash data. But this a perceptual, not a rational, decision. SHe wants old and cute. Hubcaps match the paint, no bundt wheels. Hefty and sturdy feeling. I'd get a 124 in a new york minute, but this isn't my car. Showed her pix of a 201 last night. Too generic. Looks like every other car. Anything designed after the 126 gets that reaction. So, I'm enjoying the challenge of the search. D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
I think the head gasket was starting to let go right at the end .. or am I thinking of someone else? Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think he traded it for an exploder --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D
Interstate has served my 240D well in cold temps. On Jan 7, 2008 8:40 PM, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all - It is another cold winter here in northeastern New Mexico, and the battery on the wife's 300CD has again taken a crap. It shows as fully charged when I hook up the charger, but there are no cold cranking amps and it won't turn the engine over fast enough to get it going. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jersey 300 SDL
No telling what the reserve is --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: [MBZ] Jersey 300 SDL Scant on pics and details, claims to have all records. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/87-Mercedes-Benz-300-SDL-Great-Daily-Driver-No-Rust_W0QQitemZ250203628095QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 58
Saab 99/900 are pretty safe cars for their age. Right up there with MBZ and Volvo from the '70's. I'm not so sure about the crash ratings on the earlier cars (92, 95, 96), but if she wants old, small, funky, and wagon, a Saab 95 would do it. She might really like a Saab 99 three door (Saab called it the Wagonback). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Kaleb wrote: I have one I will trade for a wagon. How about trading for a very nice 1997 Ford Explorer 4X4? It's like a tall wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel economy report
Ok Don wrote: The '90 300D 2.5 got 37.4 mpg on the 1007 mile round trip to Houston with local running around there and a trip to work today. The 300SDL got 25 MPG on the trip down (it's there for the duration of the internship). WOW! I wonder if that new glow plug made all the difference. I have never heard of a 602 getting that high, that is great. Want to sell it back to me? I am getting 15.5 in my expedition. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed
Ok Don wrote: SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE or SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? I don't. It blew the head gasket and likely damaged the head. I traded it in. I did not want to put that much money into a car that I was trying to sell. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
did they sue remington? my guns are kept locked up in a room that is kept locked up. and my kid is never in the house alone. on the other hand, i keep everything loaded and out in the open when the ex-wife is in the house alone, but she has no interest in playing with guns :( On Jan 8, 2008 9:07 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT wrote: I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. If you don't teach him, he's just another statistic waiting to happen. Here's an example that really happened: 10 year old gets permission to go home with a latchkey after school. Latchkey goes to parents bedroom, comes out with a loaded 12ga. Visiting kid unloads it and puts it on the parent's bed with the action open. Do you want your grandson to be like the visitor in this story, or the poor kid in the morgue? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
The '90 300D 2.5 got 37.4 mpg ... I have never heard of a 602 getting that high, that is great. The 602 in my 190D has gotten 42. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Quest
So to reiterate, the criteria are: • old and cute: square classic shape, hubcaps painted body color. * Not too big--123 sized. 126s are too big *Not too small--201s are too small * Not too new--124s look too generic * Gasser What about the 250C/280C[E]? (114) Tres cute. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D
Is the 300CD a daily driver? If the battery gets sulfated from storage, you won't get any amps to speak of, but the voltage can be quite high after you recharge. Does the car overcharge the battery? A battery that's been boiled dry won't get you any amps either. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
uh, no. Just filled up the 92, got 32mpg mixed city/highway. WOW. I sure dont know why they never had a 2.5 wagon. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Kaleb wrote: I have one I will trade for a wagon. How about trading for a very nice 1997 Ford Explorer 4X4? It's like a tall wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Quest
On Jan 8, 2008 7:49 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to reiterate, the criteria are: • old and cute: square classic shape, hubcaps painted body color. * Not too big--123 sized. 126s are too big *Not too small--201s are too small * Not too new--124s look too generic * Gasser What about the 250C/280C[E]? (114) Tres cute. But slow and thirsty (if FI), or thirsty and cranky (if carbed). I find it ironic and a little sad that the 124 is dismissed as too generic by the lady in question and so many others. It was such a distinctive shape in 1985. The only reason it looks like every other '90s car now is that every other carmaker took styling cues from it. Same for the 201---anyone remember the first Mazda Protege? And the Audi 5000---another great '80s design diminished by Ford's crude aping of it with the first Taurus. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D
Yes-I have Interstate megaton's in al three of my diesels. One is almost 6 years old and will still start at 10F with a little trickle charge or boost. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D Interstate has served my 240D well in cold temps. On Jan 7, 2008 8:40 PM, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all - It is another cold winter here in northeastern New Mexico, and the battery on the wife's 300CD has again taken a crap. It shows as fully charged when I hook up the charger, but there are no cold cranking amps and it won't turn the engine over fast enough to get it going. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Deoxit version: was 123 coupe electrical confusion
Can someone tell me the name and/or parts number on your deoxit container? Several years ago Marshall told us about Deoxit, I looked up their website, but found so many versions I couldn't figure out which to buy. At that time Radio Shack sold Deoxit under their label but they don't anymore. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was once reported that my right markerlight flashed randomly. A complete cleaning with dremel/deoxit was then completed. Ugh, I LOVE looking for needles in a hay stack. No wonder dispatchers hate me when I tell them that a wiring diagnosis could be a 30 minute fix or a 30 hour fix. Luther - On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:44:58 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had that apart several weeks back and cleaned it with dexoit. It was still in one piece and now dims across the full spectrum. Other ideas? Those can be a real stinker to trace. It's certainly worth pulling the right-side light fixtures out and examining their connectors and internal connections for oddities. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed
This is true. 111 bodies starting in 59 and 110 bodies starting in 61 had crumple zones designed in. The Ponton was also designed with first generation crumple zones. I think the 59 Tom refers to is a Ponton. Two of my family members have walked away from hits that could have been fatal in a lesser car. Friends don't let friends drive non-Mercedes Loren At 09:37 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: Mercedes was doing crash testing long before anyone else, in 1953 to be exact. Even my 1959 220S has crumple zones in the front end sheet metal. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 10:29 PM To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre-tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you can forget the 115. Those cars predate the construction of MB's crash engineering facility (1968), so a lot of the safety engineering was done under pretty primitive conditions. Your best bet might be a W124. The size feels like a W123 but the crash performance is as good as a W126. Of course, compared to an '85 Civic, any MB would serve you well. But you have to remember that your survival is mostly determined by the design of the thing you run into. Here's an illustration of what happens to a safe big old car that hits a safe small new car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ygYUYia9I D. Dan Weeks wrote: Thanks Tom, Hendrik, and Tom, for your replies. Looks like it's best to avoid unless its a 230E. I'll restrict my search to that criteria. I agree the 190 would be perfect for my wife, who is rather petite. However, she was involved in a terrible accident in a civic once that had her sleeping on a board and in physical therapy for 6 months after being hit so hard by a drunk that it knocked the earings out of her pierced ears. She wants something more substantial feeling, whether or not the 201 is statistically safer than a 123.. She also likes the classic square vintage mbz look, and thinks the newer ones are far too generic. And she doesn't want a diesel for her own car, and frankly, as many short trips as she drives, a diesel doesn't make a lot of sense for her. Thanks again, all. I'll let you know what turns up. Meanwhile, if anyone has anything else to offer--a 115 with a known good blower motor, for instance, or a finny in great shape for cheap, let me know! :-) Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 59
I love 'em. CE's too spendy, 250s too fiddly, with the carbs and all. Dan On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to reiterate, the criteria are: ? old and cute: square classic shape, hubcaps painted body color. * Not too big--123 sized. 126s are too big *Not too small--201s are too small * Not too new--124s look too generic * Gasser What about the 250C/280C[E]? (114) Tres cute. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
Allen S. wrote: 'I think the head gasket was starting to let go right at the end .. or am I thinking of someone else? Yes. It blew a head gasket and needed a new head. I traded it for an Expedition. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deoxit version: was 123 coupe electrical confusion
Anyone ever used Stabilant? Supposed to be super-great-magic stuff, very expensive. VW uses it on their connectors. It's not a cleaner, it's a contact enhancer. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a guy on Ebay who sells a ton of it and is packaged in a pump type container which is a better deal. Bought from him and very pleased. Do a search on Ebay using Deoxit. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deoxit version: was 123 coupe electrical confusion
http://www.caig.com/ I like the plastic bottle with the needle applicator. Harry On Jan 8, 2008 12:12 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me the name and/or parts number on your deoxit container? Several years ago Marshall told us about Deoxit, I looked up their website, but found so many versions I couldn't figure out which to buy. At that time Radio Shack sold Deoxit under their label but they don't anymore. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was once reported that my right markerlight flashed randomly. A complete cleaning with dremel/deoxit was then completed. Ugh, I LOVE looking for needles in a hay stack. No wonder dispatchers hate me when I tell them that a wiring diagnosis could be a 30 minute fix or a 30 hour fix. Luther - On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:44:58 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had that apart several weeks back and cleaned it with dexoit. It was still in one piece and now dims across the full spectrum. Other ideas? Those can be a real stinker to trace. It's certainly worth pulling the right-side light fixtures out and examining their connectors and internal connections for oddities. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deoxit version: was 123 coupe electrical confusion
There's a guy on Ebay who sells a ton of it and is packaged in a pump type container which is a better deal. Bought from him and very pleased. Do a search on Ebay using Deoxit. John On 1/8/08, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me the name and/or parts number on your deoxit container? Several years ago Marshall told us about Deoxit, I looked up their website, but found so many versions I couldn't figure out which to buy. At that time Radio Shack sold Deoxit under their label but they don't anymore. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was once reported that my right markerlight flashed randomly. A complete cleaning with dremel/deoxit was then completed. Ugh, I LOVE looking for needles in a hay stack. No wonder dispatchers hate me when I tell them that a wiring diagnosis could be a 30 minute fix or a 30 hour fix. Luther - On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:44:58 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had that apart several weeks back and cleaned it with dexoit. It was still in one piece and now dims across the full spectrum. Other ideas? Those can be a real stinker to trace. It's certainly worth pulling the right-side light fixtures out and examining their connectors and internal connections for oddities. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
Yea, OK, I remember now. Wasnt the head done not too long before you got it also? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed) Allen S. wrote: 'I think the head gasket was starting to let go right at the end .. or am I thinking of someone else? Yes. It blew a head gasket and needed a new head. I traded it for an Expedition. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
Kaleb wrote: That I dont remember, seems like it though. Although I do remember him saying it has been replaced when he got it or something like that. The valve job had been done while it was under warranty at 77,000 miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
got ya --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed) Kaleb wrote: That I dont remember, seems like it though. Although I do remember him saying it has been replaced when he got it or something like that. The valve job had been done while it was under warranty at 77,000 miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 59
On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But slow and thirsty (if FI), or thirsty and cranky (if carbed). Exactly. I find it ironic and a little sad that the 124 is dismissed as too generic by the lady in question and so many others. It was such a distinctive shape in 1985. The only reason it looks like every other '90s car now is that every other carmaker took styling cues from it. Same for the 201--- anyone remember the first Mazda Protege? And the Audi 5000---another great '80s design diminished by Ford's crude aping of it with the first Taurus. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. It is. I like 'em. The early ones look just like scaled-down 126s. But as you say, everyone copied, and she's not into cars enough to be able to say, but this is the original! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Thx Kaleb - I was wondering if something was wrong ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report 32 or 33 is about tops. I have never heard of anybody else getting 37.4. Thats about what a 190D auto will get. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report WOW! 37.4 mpg is very good! I assume it's a Turbo? The best my '91 300D 2.5T has gotten since I bought it in Feb 06 has been around 32 or 33 mpg. You need to keep that 300D in great condition!! It's a keeper! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 58
I know where theres a '72 Saab 95 wagon just waiting for somebody willing to do some metal work. The guy wants $2k which is too much for my blood but it is a somewhat rare car. -Curt Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:22:02 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 58 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Saab 99/900 are pretty safe cars for their age. Right up there with MBZ and Volvo from the '70's. I'm not so sure about the crash ratings on the earlier cars (92, 95, 96), but if she wants old, small, funky, and wagon, a Saab 95 would do it. She might really like a Saab 99 three door (Saab called it the Wagonback). - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Hi Mitch - You don't have to convince me -- I have to convince my daughter! All the years of propaganda beaten into her by her so-called teachers failed to mention what might happen when a very inquisitive little boy (my g'son to a T) finds a gun somewhere - in the street, in someones house or his dads closet - they *must* know how to either 1. leave it alone or 2., Unload it - and really know when it's unloaded as the 10 yr olds friend seemed to know. To me, getting a bb gun when between 6 10 is a right of passage just like getting your 1st pocket knife. Sure, some kids in cities don't have the opportunity to target shoot plink those in the country do - but there are places the parents could take them so they could shoot them and learn something that will stay with them their whole life. When they graduate to a .22 or shotgun they will know what the power of a gun really is. Seeing it on TV is not convincing no matter how much fake blood they throw around. You're 100% correct -- a child who isn;t taght the proper way to respect a firearm is an accidnt waiting to happen. Now, there;s going to be some on this list who will say I didn;t have training and I didn;t get shot. Count yourself lucky. Frtunately, gun accidents among children under 14 is incredibly low - the anti gun people claim a incredibly high number which can only be justified when Children are defined as being up to 24 years old which includes those who participate in gangs and drugs - both very dangerous activities - because the real stat is fewer children are killed by guns than drown in bath tubs every year. I wonder why we don't hear a cry to ban bath tubs? Anyway -- I see your point -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost LarryT wrote: I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. If you don't teach him, he's just another statistic waiting to happen. Here's an example that really happened: 10 year old gets permission to go home with a latchkey after school. Latchkey goes to parents bedroom, comes out with a loaded 12ga. Visiting kid unloads it and puts it on the parent's bed with the action open. Do you want your grandson to be like the visitor in this story, or the poor kid in the morgue? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
I dont know what OK Dons secret is/was --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Thx Kaleb - I was wondering if something was wrong ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report 32 or 33 is about tops. I have never heard of anybody else getting 37.4. Thats about what a 190D auto will get. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report WOW! 37.4 mpg is very good! I assume it's a Turbo? The best my '91 300D 2.5T has gotten since I bought it in Feb 06 has been around 32 or 33 mpg. You need to keep that 300D in great condition!! It's a keeper! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
I think the better approach would be to pass a law prohibiting children from touching weapons unless an adult is around to supervise. That would fix the problem right there. --R LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - You don't have to convince me -- I have to convince my daughter! All the years of propaganda beaten into her by her so-called teachers failed to mention what might happen when a very inquisitive little boy (my g'son to a T) finds a gun somewhere - in the street, in someones house or his dads closet - they *must* know how to either 1. leave it alone or 2., Unload it - and really know when it's unloaded as the 10 yr olds friend seemed to know. To me, getting a bb gun when between 6 10 is a right of passage just like getting your 1st pocket knife. Sure, some kids in cities don't have the opportunity to target shoot plink those in the country do - but there are places the parents could take them so they could shoot them and learn something that will stay with them their whole life. When they graduate to a .22 or shotgun they will know what the power of a gun really is. Seeing it on TV is not convincing no matter how much fake blood they throw around. You're 100% correct -- a child who isn;t taght the proper way to respect a firearm is an accidnt waiting to happen. Now, there;s going to be some on this list who will say I didn;t have training and I didn;t get shot. Count yourself lucky. Frtunately, gun accidents among children under 14 is incredibly low - the anti gun people claim a incredibly high number which can only be justified when Children are defined as being up to 24 years old which includes those who participate in gangs and drugs - both very dangerous activities - because the real stat is fewer children are killed by guns than drown in bath tubs every year. I wonder why we don't hear a cry to ban bath tubs? Anyway -- I see your point -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost LarryT wrote: I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. If you don't teach him, he's just another statistic waiting to happen. Here's an example that really happened: 10 year old gets permission to go home with a latchkey after school. Latchkey goes to parents bedroom, comes out with a loaded 12ga. Visiting kid unloads it and puts it on the parent's bed with the action open. Do you want your grandson to be like the visitor in this story, or the poor kid in the morgue? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Was that an NRA sort of pun? (Right of passage vs. rite of passage.) On Jan 8, 2008 1:02 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me, getting a bb gun when between 6 10 is a right of passage -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
--- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Regina Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids Just thought I would share with you some pictures of our newest editions for Chistmas etc. You guys helped make this possible and we thank you all for your help and continured support! Regina ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 014.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59121 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 015.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59870 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 61192 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 155020 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 160761 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 143655 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58533 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 007.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58681 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 008.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58459 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 009.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59415 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0009.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 010.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 146234 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0010.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 011.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 150505 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0011.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 012.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157293 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0012.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 013.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 149184 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0013.jpg
[MBZ] cruise control amp
I took the advice from this group and pulled the cruise control amp from my 84 300d. Tried applying heat to all the solder connections on the back of the board, but I learned that I'm not as good with a soldering iron as I thought. I wound up about halfway through before I melted my fingers. I reinstalled the amp and it hold cruise for about a minute, then disengages. The accelerate function works ok. So now I'm looking for a replacement 13 pin amp, part #7932. Anyone got any ideas where I can find one? Hans Hansel 84 300d 80 450sl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Thanks so very much for both the written update and these pictures. :) Dave H... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:14:40 -0600 Subject: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids--- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Regina Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids Just thought I would share with you some pictures of our newest editions for Chistmas etc. You guys helped make this possible and we thank you all for your help and continured support! Regina ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 014.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59121 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 015.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59870 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 61192 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 155020 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 160761 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 143655 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58533 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 007.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58681 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 008.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58459 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 009.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59415 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0009.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 010.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 146234 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0010.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 011.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 150505 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0011.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 012.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157293 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0012.jpg -- next part
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Regina and Kaleb, Thanks for sharing You are doing a good job and the kids radiate that Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
I call BS, there is no way in hell it will --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Guy at work has a 116 300SD and claims it'll do 30mpg. However I know the odo doesn't work in it. He says well I can drive 500 miles between fillups. By which he means City x and city y are about 500 miles apart. Playing a little bit loose wiht the amount you fill up or the distance traveled very quickly creates very good mpg... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:09:20 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I dont know what OK Dons secret is/was --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Has anybody ever
I know you lot are bad ones to ask to talk me out of something so... The trans in my Dakota is probably not long for this world, its working adequately for now but who knows about the future. I could probably put in a used one for $1200 or so. But Theres an auction place not far from work that has an '01 Ford F150 4x4 that appears to have been used as a chase vehicle (white, low end, and has the lights on top) that didn't sell in the last auction. The next is tomorrow night. Now its way high miles (like 190,000) but I'm thinking as a chase vehicle most of that would be relatively low speed highway stuff. Anyway I'm gonna go give it a look tomorrow, if its in decent shape I figure to put $1500 on it. I'll keep my Dakota for the moment to see how things shape up. At that price if it pukes I'm not out so much and maybe I can sell some parts to recoup some of my investment. Opinions? -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I call BS, there is no way in hell it will I got 28MPG in my SD before. Once. I had the cruise set on 60MPH the entire time. It was the tank after I left your place... I had that huge oil leak where if I went above 60MPH oil poured out... Normally I get 23 on the highway (~80MPH) and about 19 in town. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
yea, thats more typical. On my 32mpg 2.5 turbo, that is driving about 75 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I call BS, there is no way in hell it will I got 28MPG in my SD before. Once. I had the cruise set on 60MPH the entire time. It was the tank after I left your place... I had that huge oil leak where if I went above 60MPH oil poured out... Normally I get 23 on the highway (~80MPH) and about 19 in town. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 230
There were a very few 230s imported by MBNA in the '70s; they are very rare. Imagine the performance of an NA 300D with none of the advantages of a 300D. . Yes, I remember this and the story at the time was they were only marketed in the eastern part of the country where there were no real hills to climb. Having owned a 300D, I wouldn't use the word performance too much in discussions of it. RLE ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Guy at work has a 116 300SD and claims it'll do 30mpg. However I know the odo doesn't work in it. He says well I can drive 500 miles between fillups. By which he means City x and city y are about 500 miles apart. Playing a little bit loose wiht the amount you fill up or the distance traveled very quickly creates very good mpg... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:09:20 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I dont know what OK Dons secret is/was --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: What WERE they thinking....
I just hope they are not running windows. A BSOD at 30,000 feet could really spoil your day. -Dave Walton On Jan 8, 2008 4:40 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/01/dreamliner_security Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D
hi Lee! why not let the Mercedes roadside service guys come out and test your charging system (for free) and install a new MBZ battery if it's necessary? doesn't cost much (if any) more than many other batteries, in my experience, and will eliminate some of the variables. besides, that way you get to let the MBZ tech wrestle with fitting the battery into the tight squeeze that the CD has,... ;-) but frankly, if her car is chewing up batteries in a year of *normal* service, it sounds like there's other problems that you need to identify and correct first,... cheers! e Lee Einer wrote: Hi, all - It is another cold winter here in northeastern New Mexico, and the battery on the wife's 300CD has again taken a crap. It shows as fully charged when I hook up the charger, but there are no cold cranking amps and it won't turn the engine over fast enough to get it going. So now I must ask - last year, the same thing happened and I went to Auto Zone and bought what I was told was their best for cold cranking amps. Their best turned out to be garbage. What do you all recommend for the best, no holds barred get it started in the winter battery? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: What WERE they thinking....
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/01/dreamliner_security Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Curt Raymond wrote: Guy at work has a 116 300SD and claims it'll do 30mpg. However I know the odo doesn't work in it. My W116 got 26-28mpg driving home from Florida when I bought it, according to the odo on my friend's Toyota. (my odo had slipping gear syndrome) We filled up at the same time, even though the SD had lots of fuel left when the Corolla had to stop for gas. A PO had put P225 x 80 x 14 tires on it, so it was geared a bit higher than normal. I rarely drove over 80 on that trip, probably averaged low to mid 70's. Driving hundreds of miles without a cold start sure helps the mileage. Mine might do 30mpg if I drove 60mph on those big tires for 500 miles nonstop. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: What WERE they thinking....
Surely there is a joke pic or something somewhere showing a cockpit with the BSOD --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: What WERE they thinking I just hope they are not running windows. A BSOD at 30,000 feet could really spoil your day. -Dave Walton On Jan 8, 2008 4:40 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/01/dreamliner_security Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Has anybody ever
We have a 98 F150 short box regular cab 4X4 with the 4.2 V6 and a manual 5 speed. About 125K miles on it now. Bought it used with about 102K miles on it. So far, a starter, an alternator and the biggy, a clutch. The clutch was not worn out but the slave cylinder leaked and it is too much labout to go in there without doing the clutch at the same time. Otherwise so far so good. We also have an 02 F150 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.4 V8. Bought it a year ago with about 90K miles and it is now at about 106K miles. Have done nothing on it but brakes that I can recall. I like them both. Wouldn't hesitate to buy another. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:19 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Has anybody ever I know you lot are bad ones to ask to talk me out of something so... The trans in my Dakota is probably not long for this world, its working adequately for now but who knows about the future. I could probably put in a used one for $1200 or so. But Theres an auction place not far from work that has an '01 Ford F150 4x4 that appears to have been used as a chase vehicle (white, low end, and has the lights on top) that didn't sell in the last auction. The next is tomorrow night. Now its way high miles (like 190,000) but I'm thinking as a chase vehicle most of that would be relatively low speed highway stuff. Anyway I'm gonna go give it a look tomorrow, if its in decent shape I figure to put $1500 on it. I'll keep my Dakota for the moment to see how things shape up. At that price if it pukes I'm not out so much and maybe I can sell some parts to recoup some of my investment. Opinions? -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Quest
The Euro 280E goes alright, the 230E struggles a bit. I don't know that they ever fuel injected the 250, perhaps with D jet. Hendrik Alex Chamberlain wrote: What about the 250C/280C[E]? (114) Tres cute. But slow and thirsty (if FI), or thirsty and cranky (if carbed). I find it ironic and a little sad that the 124 is dismissed as too generic by the lady in question and so many others. It was such a distinctive shape in 1985. The only reason it looks like every other '90s car now is that every other carmaker took styling cues from it. Same for the 201---anyone remember the first Mazda Protege? And the Audi 5000---another great '80s design diminished by Ford's crude aping of it with the first Taurus. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Driving hundreds of miles without a cold start sure helps the mileage. That's how my '78 300cd was able to get 28MPG on the highway coming back to Oregon from Southern Kalifornia. It never got mileage that good ever again. That was before I learned how to adjust valves, and I didn't own it long enough. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Thanks for sharing. Nice looking bunch there. Keep on keeping on. Harry On Jan 8, 2008 2:49 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regina and Kaleb, Thanks for sharing You are doing a good job and the kids radiate that Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Quest
On Jan 8, 2008 2:17 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Euro 280E goes alright, the 230E struggles a bit. I don't know that they ever fuel injected the 250, perhaps with D jet. Emphasis on Euro. American-spec 114 gassers are notoriously crippled with emissions equipment. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Audi S4
I'm considering picking up a '93 Audi 100 S4 as my winter rig (230 hp 20v 2.3L five cylinder w/AWD). Anyone know about or have much experience with them? Casey '87 300TD '89 Bluestar '90 90Q ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deoxit version: was 123 coupe electrical confusion
From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's a guy on Ebay who sells a ton of it and is packaged in a pump type container which is a better deal. Bought from him and very pleased. Do a search on Ebay using Deoxit. John -- Thanks, John. There are 27 items from a number of dealers on EBay but I don't see any in a pump container. Also looked for the plastic bottle with the needle applicator that Harry mentioned but couldn't identify it. Thanks, Harry. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 230
REL wrote regarding the 230 Yes, I remember this and the story at the time was they were only marketed in the eastern part of the country where there were no real hills to climb. I know you were referring to the 230, but there have been some comments about the 250. In later model 250's they had the 2.8 six cylinder (M110?). they were actually pretty stout and had significant pickup. I agree they were very thirsty. When the twin carbs were out of adjustment on mine, I remember getting 9-10 mpg. Wasn't there a 230TE wagon in later years? I thought someone on here had one. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Speaking of fuel mileage
Does anyone have any real world experience with the 124 300E or the 300CE's as far as fuel mileage. A friend of mine said he gets 20 city 26 highway. That sounds pretty high for a gas car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deoxit version: was 123 coupe electrical confusion
Gerry, My badit is a spray but without the propellant. Here's what ! bought... http://cgi.ebay.com/Caig-Deoxit-DP5-Conductivity-Electrical-Spray-Lot-of-4_W0QQitemZ180202377281QQihZ008QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem BTW, no affiliation, etc. John On 1/8/08, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a guy on Ebay who sells a ton of it and is packaged in a pump type container which is a better deal. Bought from him and very pleased. Do a search on Ebay using Deoxit. John On 1/8/08, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me the name and/or parts number on your deoxit container? Several years ago Marshall told us about Deoxit, I looked up their website, but found so many versions I couldn't figure out which to buy. At that time Radio Shack sold Deoxit under their label but they don't anymore. Thanks, Gerry --- From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was once reported that my right markerlight flashed randomly. A complete cleaning with dremel/deoxit was then completed. Ugh, I LOVE looking for needles in a hay stack. No wonder dispatchers hate me when I tell them that a wiring diagnosis could be a 30 minute fix or a 30 hour fix. Luther - On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:44:58 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had that apart several weeks back and cleaned it with dexoit. It was still in one piece and now dims across the full spectrum. Other ideas? Those can be a real stinker to trace. It's certainly worth pulling the right-side light fixtures out and examining their connectors and internal connections for oddities. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
I know it won't... When he brings it back from Mexico I'll challenge him to prove it using my GPS... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:19:02 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I call BS, there is no way in hell it will --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Guy at work has a 116 300SD and claims it'll do 30mpg. However I know the odo doesn't work in it. He says well I can drive 500 miles between fillups. By which he means City x and city y are about 500 miles apart. Playing a little bit loose wiht the amount you fill up or the distance traveled very quickly creates very good mpg... -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Has anybody ever
Hi Randy, Thanks, I figured that was what you'd say. As usual it'll be condition condition condition but the pics are good. I was thinking on the way home that if I could get it for $1500 it might even be worth putting a trans in it. Then I got thinking if it were worth putting a trans in that surely its worth putting a trans in the truck I already own... But then I'd also need to fix the leaking heater core and figure out why the blower doesn't work on 2 and why the passenger always gets cold air and fix the rusty doors and and and... We'll see. -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:12:07 -0600 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Has anybody ever To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 We have a 98 F150 short box regular cab 4X4 with the 4.2 V6 and a manual 5 speed. About 125K miles on it now. Bought it used with about 102K miles on it. So far, a starter, an alternator and the biggy, a clutch. The clutch was not worn out but the slave cylinder leaked and it is too much labout to go in there without doing the clutch at the same time. Otherwise so far so good. We also have an 02 F150 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.4 V8. Bought it a year ago with about 90K miles and it is now at about 106K miles. Have done nothing on it but brakes that I can recall. I like them both. Wouldn't hesitate to buy another. Randy - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deoxit version: was 123 coupe electrical confusion
- Original Message - From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerry, My badit is a spray but without the propellant. Here's what ! bought... http://cgi.ebay.com/Caig-Deoxit-DP5-Conductivity-Electrical-Spray-Lot-of-4_W0QQitemZ180202377281QQihZ008QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem BTW, no affiliation, etc. John Thanks, John. Just ordered two. Filled in the minimum $35; assuming that's what he sells them for. Haven't bought anything on Ebay for a couple of years, so I don't remember the procedure. Guess I just wait until he contacts me or I sign in after the auctions closing date. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 230
230TE/230E (Euro) is a screamer. M102 engine, the 4 cyl version of the M103. Nice combination, but not economical. 20MPG or so. The 230TE was a fun car! At 04:32 PM 1/8/2008, you wrote: REL wrote regarding the 230 Yes, I remember this and the story at the time was they were only marketed in the eastern part of the country where there were no real hills to climb. I know you were referring to the 230, but there have been some comments about the 250. In later model 250's they had the 2.8 six cylinder (M110?). they were actually pretty stout and had significant pickup. I agree they were very thirsty. When the twin carbs were out of adjustment on mine, I remember getting 9-10 mpg. Wasn't there a 230TE wagon in later years? I thought someone on here had one. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: What WERE they thinking....
Yeah, it's running Vista/AC, you can say things like turn left and it will, and it has some holes that will be patched as time goes on with updates (You must reboot now for these changes to take effect. 60...5958) somewhere over the Arctic Circle... --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Surely there is a joke pic or something somewhere showing a cockpit with the BSOD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Beautiful children (aren't they all?) and clearly happy. I see you bought a school bus to transport the fam now? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190 2.2 t-stat
I'm about to replace the thermostat on my little buddy 190d 2.2 manny Billy won't warm up past 50c. I call him billy because he climbes like a goat, this being my first diesel (I'm hooked already) I'm amazed how hard it is to lug him down, I've done lots of t-stats on Detroit v8s right up front on top. when I locate this one I plan to open the drain plug down by the tow hook, drain the radiator of yellow juice, replace the tstat (with valve on top)and refill the reservoir. My question is vapor lock do I need to worry about starting up with empty radiator (full reservoir)what am I missing? Why does everything get more complicated the older I get. The more I learn the more I realize how little I know. Thnx in advance, Tony 85 190 2.2 manny 177k (Billy my fav) 94 lex es300 195K 98 explorer xlt 2x4 130k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
I like the one of the youngest wearing his food. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Regina Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids Just thought I would share with you some pictures of our newest editions for Chistmas etc. You guys helped make this possible and we thank you all for your help and continured support! Regina ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 014.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59121 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 015.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59870 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 61192 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 155020 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 160761 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 143655 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58533 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 007.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58681 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 008.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58459 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 009.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59415 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0009.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 010.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 146234 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0010.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 011.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 150505 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0011.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 012.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157293 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Yah, right. At the same time why don't you pass a law making convenience store robberies illegal? This way, no more convenience stores will be robbed? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost I think the better approach would be to pass a law prohibiting children from touching weapons unless an adult is around to supervise. That would fix the problem right there. --R LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - You don't have to convince me -- I have to convince my daughter! All the years of propaganda beaten into her by her so-called teachers failed to mention what might happen when a very inquisitive little boy (my g'son to a T) finds a gun somewhere - in the street, in someones house or his dads closet - they *must* know how to either 1. leave it alone or 2., Unload it - and really know when it's unloaded as the 10 yr olds friend seemed to know. To me, getting a bb gun when between 6 10 is a right of passage just like getting your 1st pocket knife. Sure, some kids in cities don't have the opportunity to target shoot plink those in the country do - but there are places the parents could take them so they could shoot them and learn something that will stay with them their whole life. When they graduate to a .22 or shotgun they will know what the power of a gun really is. Seeing it on TV is not convincing no matter how much fake blood they throw around. You're 100% correct -- a child who isn;t taght the proper way to respect a firearm is an accidnt waiting to happen. Now, there;s going to be some on this list who will say I didn;t have training and I didn;t get shot. Count yourself lucky. Frtunately, gun accidents among children under 14 is incredibly low - the anti gun people claim a incredibly high number which can only be justified when Children are defined as being up to 24 years old which includes those who participate in gangs and drugs - both very dangerous activities - because the real stat is fewer children are killed by guns than drown in bath tubs every year. I wonder why we don't hear a cry to ban bath tubs? Anyway -- I see your point -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost LarryT wrote: I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. If you don't teach him, he's just another statistic waiting to happen. Here's an example that really happened: 10 year old gets permission to go home with a latchkey after school. Latchkey goes to parents bedroom, comes out with a loaded 12ga. Visiting kid unloads it and puts it on the parent's bed with the action open. Do you want your grandson to be like the visitor in this story, or the poor kid in the morgue? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
He was simply copying what he's seen Kaleb do at supper every night. On 1/8/08, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the one of the youngest wearing his food. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Regina Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids Just thought I would share with you some pictures of our newest editions for Chistmas etc. You guys helped make this possible and we thank you all for your help and continured support! Regina ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 014.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59121 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 015.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59870 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 61192 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 155020 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 160761 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 143655 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58533 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 007.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58681 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 008.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58459 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 009.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59415 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0009.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 010.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 146234 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0010.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 011.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 150505 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56 fd0f6/attachment-0011.jpg
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
OK - it's hard for me to beleive as well. Here's what I did -- new Kuhmo tires - the right size, aired up to 2Lb. over spec., drove the speed limit (shocking - but I did it this time), and used the GPS for an odometer, since the one in the car doesn't work. Maybe the GPS isn't right? Streets and Trips shows 914 miles for the trip, the GPS recorded 455 miles for the first half of it, including finding out that our exit was closed, and getting lost trying to find the motel. The extra 97 miles were local exploring and a trip to work when we got back before filling it the last time. So, the GPS distance seems reasonable. The previous trip where I measured mileage resulted in 33 mpg - that was to Albuquerque with 3 and bags instead of 2 on this trip. On Jan 8, 2008 8:11 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Yup. I saw 37 mpg at the first fuel stop, and figured I hadn't filled the tank, but it kept it the whole trip. There's a fellow on Mercedesshop who put a 5sp OD in a 190 turbo. He got 39mpg on an extended trip at 75-80. I read things on the net like this that give me the impression the W124 might have less aero drag than the W201. The overdrive and lack of torque converter should have gotten the 190D owner more than 2 mpg. (unless Don's tires are undersized and his ODO reads high) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
i would presume he was being sarcastic, no? On Jan 8, 2008 7:26 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah, right. At the same time why don't you pass a law making convenience store robberies illegal? This way, no more convenience stores will be robbed? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost I think the better approach would be to pass a law prohibiting children from touching weapons unless an adult is around to supervise. That would fix the problem right there. --R LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - You don't have to convince me -- I have to convince my daughter! All the years of propaganda beaten into her by her so-called teachers failed to mention what might happen when a very inquisitive little boy (my g'son to a T) finds a gun somewhere - in the street, in someones house or his dads closet - they *must* know how to either 1. leave it alone or 2., Unload it - and really know when it's unloaded as the 10 yr olds friend seemed to know. To me, getting a bb gun when between 6 10 is a right of passage just like getting your 1st pocket knife. Sure, some kids in cities don't have the opportunity to target shoot plink those in the country do - but there are places the parents could take them so they could shoot them and learn something that will stay with them their whole life. When they graduate to a .22 or shotgun they will know what the power of a gun really is. Seeing it on TV is not convincing no matter how much fake blood they throw around. You're 100% correct -- a child who isn;t taght the proper way to respect a firearm is an accidnt waiting to happen. Now, there;s going to be some on this list who will say I didn;t have training and I didn;t get shot. Count yourself lucky. Frtunately, gun accidents among children under 14 is incredibly low - the anti gun people claim a incredibly high number which can only be justified when Children are defined as being up to 24 years old which includes those who participate in gangs and drugs - both very dangerous activities - because the real stat is fewer children are killed by guns than drown in bath tubs every year. I wonder why we don't hear a cry to ban bath tubs? Anyway -- I see your point -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost LarryT wrote: I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. If you don't teach him, he's just another statistic waiting to happen. Here's an example that really happened: 10 year old gets permission to go home with a latchkey after school. Latchkey goes to parents bedroom, comes out with a loaded 12ga. Visiting kid unloads it and puts it on the parent's bed with the action open. Do you want your grandson to be like the visitor in this story, or the poor kid in the morgue? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
He bought the bus on eBay and planned to part it out (blown motor). With the sudden increase in family size, he decided to drop a spare 2.4 diesel into the engine compartment. Slowest school bus in all of Oklahoma. But it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and he checks the fuses on a daily basis. On 1/8/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful children (aren't they all?) and clearly happy. I see you bought a school bus to transport the fam now? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 230
Donald Snook wrote: I know you were referring to the 230, but there have been some comments about the 250. In later model 250's they had the 2.8 six cylinder (M110?). they were actually pretty stout and had significant pickup. I agree they were very thirsty. When the twin carbs were out of adjustment on mine, I remember getting 9-10 mpg. You're thinking W114. The W123 250 had an M123 2.5L five-bearing six - the final variant of the old M180 from 1952 or so. POS Solex carb. The M110 appeared in the 123 in both injected and POS Solex carb versions. I'm trying to remember how the W114 worked. The 250 was either a 2.5L M114 or a 2.8L M130, right? The 280 was M110. Wasn't there a 230TE wagon in later years? I thought someone on here had one. Yep, 1980-'86 (yes, 1986). Also a 230CE until '85. The 230CE four-speed is my favorite Mercedes of the era. Simply wonderful car. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 230/250
I know you were referring to the 230, but there have been some comments about the 250. In later model 250's they had the 2.8 six cylinder (M110?). they were actually pretty stout and had significant pickup. I agree they were very thirsty. When the twin carbs were out of adjustment on mine, I remember getting 9-10 mpg. My first MB was a '72 250 2.8 and for the period it was a nice car. Looked good, inside and out. Just about the right size. OK performance, certainly nothing special but the fuel consumption was indeed godawful. Considering it's weight, 2998 lbs (so said the manual), 12-14 mpg commuting with a best ever 17 point something highway was marginal then and out of the question these days. The next one, a '73 450SE, was only about 1 mpg less (summertime) and offered a great deal more. RLE ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 230
The 114 was typically an M130 around here. Good engine, as long as you took care of the head every 100k or so. Dan don't ask me how I know --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're thinking W114. The W123 250 had an M123 2.5L five-bearing six - the final variant of the old M180 from 1952 or so. POS Solex carb. The M110 appeared in the 123 in both injected and POS Solex carb versions. I'm trying to remember how the W114 worked. The 250 was either a 2.5L M114 or a 2.8L M130, right? The 280 was M110. Wasn't there a 230TE wagon in later years? I thought someone on here had one. Yep, 1980-'86 (yes, 1986). Also a 230CE until '85. The 230CE four-speed is my favorite Mercedes of the era. Simply wonderful car. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Great idea! Perhaps the presidential candidates will take this up as a plank in their law n' order platform (I think Fred might already be there!). It will bi-partisan support, who is the best one to make that change? --R (I'm for change and the best one to make it!) Tom Hargrave wrote: Yah, right. At the same time why don't you pass a law making convenience store robberies illegal? This way, no more convenience stores will be robbed? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Nice tribute. Chris On Jan 8, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: He bought the bus on eBay and planned to part it out (blown motor). With the sudden increase in family size, he decided to drop a spare 2.4 diesel into the engine compartment. Slowest school bus in all of Oklahoma. But it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and he checks the fuses on a daily basis. On 1/8/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful children (aren't they all?) and clearly happy. I see you bought a school bus to transport the fam now? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
I thought it was very Kaleb-esque. Did you notice him eyeing the kids' toys in the photo? I am sure the cool stuff was long ago stuffed into the Kleb Closet. On 1/8/08, Christopher Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice tribute. Chris On Jan 8, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: He bought the bus on eBay and planned to part it out (blown motor). With the sudden increase in family size, he decided to drop a spare 2.4 diesel into the engine compartment. Slowest school bus in all of Oklahoma. But it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and he checks the fuses on a daily basis. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Pretty much -- but the one with the glasses isn't potty-trained yet. On Jan 8, 2008 7:41 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in the last pic, Regina's kids are the three big ones (the two with t-shirts over long sleeves and the one with the glasses)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Yea, I have been hanging around with liberal vegetarians too long. Wonko the Sane wrote: Pretty much -- but the one with the glasses isn't potty-trained yet. On Jan 8, 2008 7:41 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in the last pic, Regina's kids are the three big ones (the two with t-shirts over long sleeves and the one with the glasses)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
yea Mitch Haley wrote: So in the last pic, Regina's kids are the three big ones (the two with t-shirts over long sleeves and the one with the glasses)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
Pretty much -- but the one with the glasses isn't potty-trained yet. He's almost sitting upright in that chair Nice brood, Kaleb. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids Yea, I have been hanging around with liberal vegetarians too long. Wonko the Sane wrote: On Jan 8, 2008 7:41 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in the last pic, Regina's kids are the three big ones (the two with t-shirts over long sleeves and the one with the glasses)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190 2.2 t-stat
refill the reservoir. My question is vapor lock do I need to worry about starting up with empty radiator (full reservoir)what am I missing? I always back-fill the head through the upper radiator hose. Saves a lot of air burping. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
So in the last pic, Regina's kids are the three big ones (the two with t-shirts over long sleeves and the one with the glasses)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
