[MBZ] Request for a Car FAX Report
Can anyone provide a Car FAX Report for me on the follwing vehilce: 1994 Pontiac Bonneville 1G2HX52L4R4217841 I would apreciate it. Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I guess 126 seats will fit in a 116
just install the track etc from the 116 I would guess --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I guess 126 seats will fit in a 116 Aren't the front seats in a W126 powered? So, how does this guy adjust them? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion
Your reostat is flaky --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion So, tonight I fire up my car, and no dash lights etc. BLEH!!! Part the way through my drive they started working. Change from last night? It was more than 70 degrees last night, now it's barely 40 Could this be temp related?? ARGH!! Luther, with quotes from Charlie Brown and Garfield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Haven't checked it. Only 155K miles. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: 32 mpg is the best I have been able to get from my 90 300D 2.5t. How's your timing chain? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Haven't checked it. Only 155K miles. Was 1990 one of the years for the bad timing chains? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
http://tinyurl.com/369cqb Cause effect? :-) On Jan 9, 2008 8:29 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if it's still this way, but when I was a kid my cousins in Denmark only went to school a few hours a day. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you give your child 2 hours a day of focused concentration on any learning plan, you have accomplished more than any public or private school can. I don't know if it's still this way, but when I was a kid my cousins in Denmark only went to school a few hours a day. They had a lot more homework than I did because the school was a place for the teacher to instruct, and to hand out assignments and receive completed work. The work itself was to be done on your own time. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
Don't know. I don't recall a 602 chain issue. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Haven't checked it. Only 155K miles. Was 1990 one of the years for the bad timing chains? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion
Had that trouble with all my Mercedes. Best solution I'v found is to put a jumper across the rheostat. As dim as MB dash lights are in a 123, why would anyone want to turn them down? Gerry . From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, tonight I fire up my car, and no dash lights etc. BLEH!!! Part the way through my drive they started working. Change from last night? It was more than 70 degrees last night, now it's barely 40 Could this be temp related?? ARGH!! Luther, with quotes from Charlie Brown and Garfield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion
archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Had that trouble with all my Mercedes. Best solution I'v found is to put a jumper across the rheostat. As dim as MB dash lights are in a 123, why would anyone want to turn them down? I like my dash lights as dim as possible while still allowing me to see the gauges. I find bright dash gauges at night to be annoying and hard on the eyes. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Request for a Car FAX Report
SUMTER, SC Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 08/31/2006 SUMTER, SC Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 03/13/2007 SC 49,938 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 03/19/2007 CAMDEN, SC Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:770280172773937) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:16 AM Subject: [MBZ] Request for a Car FAX Report Can anyone provide a Car FAX Report for me on the follwing vehilce: 1994 Pontiac Bonneville 1G2HX52L4R4217841 I would apreciate it. Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 12355 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 7733 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment-0001.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1150 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment-0002.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 360 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment-0003.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2326 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment.obj -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1314 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment-0004.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1024 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment-0005.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 839 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment-0006.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1734 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080109/a800c4e1/attachment-0007.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of fuel mileage
I get about 23 in mixed use (probably about 60% highway, 40% city driving) in the 1995 E320. I do drive it pretty hard. I believe the M104's in the 1993 and up do a little better mileage wise than the M103 models. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 1/8/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any real world experience with the 124 300E or the 300CE's as far as fuel mileage. A friend of mine said he gets 20 city 26 highway. That sounds pretty high for a gas car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot (WALTER WARREN)
What really gets me, is you know that Hilary knows that in no way could the Fed run a National Health Care program... it really pisses me off when they even bring it up... Each time someone talks to me possivie about it, I ask them... well, what did the Feds do to Social Security Medicare They can't run these programs correctly, Social Security has been around since the 30's and Hilary wants to start a Health care program when they can't even run Social Security Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot (WALTER WARREN)
my understanding is that social security is not run though in any meaningful way. the money is taken by force and then spent by the government on unrelated projects. then you eventually get back far far less than you would had you invested it in any other program and eat cat food while fighting not to be dispossessed. On Jan 9, 2008 1:30 PM, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really gets me, is you know that Hilary knows that in no way could the Fed run a National Health Care program... it really pisses me off when they even bring it up... Each time someone talks to me possivie about it, I ask them... well, what did the Feds do to Social Security Medicare They can't run these programs correctly, Social Security has been around since the 30's and Hilary wants to start a Health care program when they can't even run Social Security Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot (WALTER WARREN)
Any program that involves the government handling the money, or that is not based on individual choice and responsibility, will fail. RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What really gets me, is you know that Hilary knows that in no way could the Fed run a National Health Care program... it really pisses me off when they even bring it up... Each time someone talks to me possivie about it, I ask them... well, what did the Feds do to Social Security Medicare They can't run these programs correctly, Social Security has been around since the 30's and Hilary wants to start a Health care program when they can't even run Social Security -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 94 Bonneville was Request for a Car FAX Report
Dave H. wrote: Can anyone provide a Car FAX Report for me on the follwing vehicle: 1994 Pontiac Bonneville I can't provide you with a car fax, but I can tell you these are great cars. They have the 3800 engine (which is the best engine GM ever made). Lots of power for a large car, and VERY good fuel economy. When I had my Olds 88, it could get over 30 mpg. I think in 94 they were slightly larger than the earlier models, so you can probably get 28-30. You will have to replace the alternator about every 50,000 miles and the water pump every 60-75,000. You should service the transmission every 50,000 miles. But, other than that it will be a great car. The alternator and water pump are easy repairs (if I can do them, then they can't be too hard) Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
Does anybody on here know anything about Fibre channel? Specifically can you mix 2Gb and 4Gb SFPs? My guess is sure but the SFP will only work at the lower speed of the switch or SFP... Thanks -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
Not a clue. Just want to point out that the cost of 10Gb Ethernet is getting close to Fibre Channel. Still waaay too expensive to switchover existing installations. -Dave Walton On Jan 9, 2008 2:42 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody on here know anything about Fibre channel? Specifically can you mix 2Gb and 4Gb SFPs? My guess is sure but the SFP will only work at the lower speed of the switch or SFP... Thanks -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
On Jan 9, 2008 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody on here know anything about Fibre channel? Wow, Fibre Channel is still around? Last I heard about it was at a place I used to work where some engineers were involved in a top-secret project to build some kind of FC switch with an embedded TCP stack and web server for remote administration---a big deal in the late '90s! The company closed its doors a few years later, so I figure my NDA has long since expired. I'm out of the loop now on SAN stuff, but since this was about 10 years ago, I would have assumed the technology had been replaced by something newer, faster, etc. Specifically can you mix 2Gb and 4Gb SFPs? My guess is sure but the SFP will only work at the lower speed of the switch or SFP... Yeah, I think you are OK there. Like Ethernet, as long as you have physical plug-to-socket compatibility, everything works but the speed is limited to the lowest common denominator of the hardware. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
Are you assuming that we all think it should not be covered? Just what are we supposed to do with all the crazies out there? I suspect counseling and drugs are cheaper than a jail cell even with housing and food subsidies. -Dave Walton On Jan 9, 2008 1:39 AM, WALTER WARREN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend who has many years in the insurance business. His opinion is valued by me and it is this :Keep the politicians out of the ins. coverage business. We just had a major cost increase because the WA State lawmakers deemed it necessary that mental health should be covered. URGH!!! On Jan 4, 2008 7:34 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer wrote: In your opinion, perhaps. In my opinion it's never too late to discuss and offer solutions for major problems that face America. Its also a very political topic... something best reserved for banned. Join up and I'm sure everyone will start talking about it again. :) John .. Just joined. Thanks, John. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 Bonneville was Request for a Car FAX Report
How about the timing gears? The earlier ones needed them at about 100K miles if I recall. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 94 Bonneville was Request for a Car FAX Report Dave H. wrote: Can anyone provide a Car FAX Report for me on the follwing vehicle: 1994 Pontiac Bonneville I can't provide you with a car fax, but I can tell you these are great cars. They have the 3800 engine (which is the best engine GM ever made). Lots of power for a large car, and VERY good fuel economy. When I had my Olds 88, it could get over 30 mpg. I think in 94 they were slightly larger than the earlier models, so you can probably get 28-30. You will have to replace the alternator about every 50,000 miles and the water pump every 60-75,000. You should service the transmission every 50,000 miles. But, other than that it will be a great car. The alternator and water pump are easy repairs (if I can do them, then they can't be too hard) Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
dave walton wrote: Are you assuming that we all think it should not be covered? Just what are we supposed to do with all the crazies out there? I suspect counseling and drugs are cheaper than a jail cell even with housing and food subsidies. And a jail cell certainly isn't going to solve the actual problem! Counseling and drugs might cost more up front, but they can be offset by the person hopefully becoming a productive member of society. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Paint your own Mustang
www.ravenart-graphics.com/mustang/ ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? Also have a couple questions regarding a door lock that went awol the other day, but I have to poke around a little more before I post my questions for that one. lol Thanks everyone, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] car for lt don
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1973-Mercedes-Benz-220D-No-Rust_W0QQitemZ150204122087QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi S4
Frequent issues are: -crumbling suspension rubber, especially in the back, will cause extremely squirrelly handling (just like a W201/W124 when the rubber wears out) -N75 boost control valve failure -wiring, wiring, wiring. Relays are located, among other places, in driver's kickplate area, which can get wet if the windshield has been badly replaced/sealed, or if there's a lot of condensation -rubber intake plumbing gets brittle and breaks, causing air metering issues, boost cutoff, and stalling. -the medusa-like coolant hose with the integrated Y-junction tends to fail. It is expensive. -check for a recall on fuel lines to/from inline filter (they run near the turbo, and I guess there have been a few flamethrowers as a result) -heater fan motor bearings and brushes -climate control def/foot flap motor failure can be a pain because of the labour required to get to it -trim strips on body tend to corrode and eject themselves On the other hand: The people who have this car are obsessed with it. It is VERY fast, solid, and retains the quirkiness of the 5 cylinder engine with modern updates (eg. LH- instead of KE-jetronic fuel injection) http://www.s-cars.org/ and a buyer's guide... http://web.archive.org/web/20040730172050/www.urs4.com/S4S6/S4S6_buyers_guide.html On Jan 8, 2008 2:24 PM, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm considering picking up a '93 Audi 100 S4 as my winter rig (230 hp 20v 2.3L five cylinder w/AWD). Anyone know about or have much experience with them? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic compensator - useless trivia
Perusal of the service manuals reveals that, when new, the compensator carries a 75 bar nitrogen charge. This further supports my theory that these devices fail because the gas leaks out and causes consequential damage. Does anyone have one of these lying around so you can take some pictures of the outside surfaces. I'm sure there's a charging port/screw somewhere on the body. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car for lt don
Exactly what I need -- a car with loop glow plugs and no air conditioning! The 4-speed part of it interests me, though. On 1/9/08, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1973-Mercedes-Benz-220D-No-Rust_W0QQitemZ150204122087QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
There are still applications where Fiber Channel is king. It gives you a level of determinism you simply can't get from Ethernet. That can be important to some transaction processing and data acquisition systems. Yes, you should be able to use a 4Gb SFP in place of a 2Gb, provided everything else is equal (both have same wavelength and drive the same type of fiber). Gary Thompson (telecom nerd) 1995 E320 On 1/9/08, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody on here know anything about Fibre channel? Wow, Fibre Channel is still around? Last I heard about it was at a place I used to work where some engineers were involved in a top-secret project to build some kind of FC switch with an embedded TCP stack and web server for remote administration---a big deal in the late '90s! The company closed its doors a few years later, so I figure my NDA has long since expired. I'm out of the loop now on SAN stuff, but since this was about 10 years ago, I would have assumed the technology had been replaced by something newer, faster, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
re the M1 ATF - Yep. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? Also have a couple questions regarding a door lock that went awol the other day, but I have to poke around a little more before I post my questions for that one. lol Thanks everyone, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Hi Tom - I think he was being sarcastic -- ;-) at the moment there are 22,000+ laws nationwide regulating guns - with that many laws you'd think criminals would think - Wait a minute! What I'm about to do is against the law! I better stop But the anti gun people think one more law - that'll fix it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost Yah, right. At the same time why don't you pass a law making convenience store robberies illegal? This way, no more convenience stores will be robbed? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost I think the better approach would be to pass a law prohibiting children from touching weapons unless an adult is around to supervise. That would fix the problem right there. --R LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - You don't have to convince me -- I have to convince my daughter! All the years of propaganda beaten into her by her so-called teachers failed to mention what might happen when a very inquisitive little boy (my g'son to a T) finds a gun somewhere - in the street, in someones house or his dads closet - they *must* know how to either 1. leave it alone or 2., Unload it - and really know when it's unloaded as the 10 yr olds friend seemed to know. To me, getting a bb gun when between 6 10 is a right of passage just like getting your 1st pocket knife. Sure, some kids in cities don't have the opportunity to target shoot plink those in the country do - but there are places the parents could take them so they could shoot them and learn something that will stay with them their whole life. When they graduate to a .22 or shotgun they will know what the power of a gun really is. Seeing it on TV is not convincing no matter how much fake blood they throw around. You're 100% correct -- a child who isn;t taght the proper way to respect a firearm is an accidnt waiting to happen. Now, there;s going to be some on this list who will say I didn;t have training and I didn;t get shot. Count yourself lucky. Frtunately, gun accidents among children under 14 is incredibly low - the anti gun people claim a incredibly high number which can only be justified when Children are defined as being up to 24 years old which includes those who participate in gangs and drugs - both very dangerous activities - because the real stat is fewer children are killed by guns than drown in bath tubs every year. I wonder why we don't hear a cry to ban bath tubs? Anyway -- I see your point -- ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost LarryT wrote: I hope to convince my daughter that me teaching him how to shoot would be a positive thing. If you don't teach him, he's just another statistic waiting to happen. Here's an example that really happened: 10 year old gets permission to go home with a latchkey after school. Latchkey goes to parents bedroom, comes out with a loaded 12ga. Visiting kid unloads it and puts it on the parent's bed with the action open. Do you want your grandson to be like the visitor in this story, or the poor kid in the morgue? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
Thanks Larry, in it goes. :-) Ed 300E On 09/01/2008, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re the M1 ATF - Yep. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? Also have a couple questions regarding a door lock that went awol the other day, but I have to poke around a little more before I post my questions for that one. lol Thanks everyone, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car for lt don
I see an AC compressor in the photo of the engine. What's wrong with loop glow plugs? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] car for lt don Exactly what I need -- a car with loop glow plugs and no air conditioning! The 4-speed part of it interests me, though. On 1/9/08, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1973-Mercedes-Benz-220D-No-Rust_W0QQitemZ150204122087QQihZ0 05QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
Everything the government decides to Do it screws up and it ends up being filled with corruption and fraud. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: WALTER WARREN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot I have a friend who has many years in the insurance business. His opinion is valued by me and it is this :Keep the politicians out of the ins. coverage business. We just had a major cost increase because the WA State lawmakers deemed it necessary that mental health should be covered. URGH!!! On Jan 4, 2008 7:34 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer wrote: In your opinion, perhaps. In my opinion it's never too late to discuss and offer solutions for major problems that face America. Its also a very political topic... something best reserved for banned. Join up and I'm sure everyone will start talking about it again. :) John .. Just joined. Thanks, John. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
What do you have to pay for it? Are you able to find it in bigger jugs? I think I have only seen it in quarts (liters) and it seems silly to have all those empty plastic bottles. Think Green! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Thanks Larry, in it goes. :-) Ed 300E On 09/01/2008, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re the M1 ATF - Yep. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? Also have a couple questions regarding a door lock that went awol the other day, but I have to poke around a little more before I post my questions for that one. lol Thanks everyone, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
Reminds me of the Token Ring days. Using a switching infrastructure removes the collision delays of Ethernet. If it's that critical, bump it up to Gigabit or 10Gb and the benefits of Fibre disappear. Plus, most of the 4Gb Fibre vendors are running iFCP so packets go through the TCP stack anyway. -Dave Walton On Jan 9, 2008 6:05 PM, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are still applications where Fiber Channel is king. It gives you a level of determinism you simply can't get from Ethernet. That can be important to some transaction processing and data acquisition systems. Yes, you should be able to use a 4Gb SFP in place of a 2Gb, provided everything else is equal (both have same wavelength and drive the same type of fiber). Gary Thompson (telecom nerd) 1995 E320 On 1/9/08, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody on here know anything about Fibre channel? Wow, Fibre Channel is still around? Last I heard about it was at a place I used to work where some engineers were involved in a top-secret project to build some kind of FC switch with an embedded TCP stack and web server for remote administration---a big deal in the late '90s! The company closed its doors a few years later, so I figure my NDA has long since expired. I'm out of the loop now on SAN stuff, but since this was about 10 years ago, I would have assumed the technology had been replaced by something newer, faster, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion
I agree with Jim Cathey, as I recently performed the aluminum foil treatment of the light piping channels for the instrument cluster suggested by Craig McCluckey and my dash lights are indeed bright enough to dim approximately 1/3 of the way and are still brighter than they were prior to the aluminum foil treatment. On another subject, my turn signals and 4way flahers were behaving really weird and Jim C. suggested off-list that this could be caused by dirty contacts in the 4way flasher switch. Well, success, success, I removed the 4way flasher switch, opened it up and the contacts were rather ugly looking, so I cleaned 'em with a Scotch-Brite, applied a small amount of conductive grease to all the contacts as well as the connecting pins, and reassembled the switch and all is working correctly again. Thanx Jim. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
You can buy it in 55 gallon drums from distributors, but there is no price break over buying quarts from Walmart. -Dave Walton On Jan 9, 2008 6:20 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you have to pay for it? Are you able to find it in bigger jugs? I think I have only seen it in quarts (liters) and it seems silly to have all those empty plastic bottles. Think Green! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Thanks Larry, in it goes. :-) Ed 300E On 09/01/2008, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re the M1 ATF - Yep. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? Also have a couple questions regarding a door lock that went awol the other day, but I have to poke around a little more before I post my questions for that one. lol Thanks everyone, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
That's what I use in my 1995. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 1/9/08, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vacuum elements in a 85 300SD (126 chassis ) - any one else been here ???
Trying to remove Vacuum element for Center Nozzle I know it leaks, I have a hand vacuum pump and a gauge. (so do a few others but this one is being the most difficult to get to. I have the center console removed (what a mess) Instruction 83-665 Refers to removing shutter center and loosen air connection hose to necessary extent in 83-150. Now 83-150 has me totally confused. 83-150 covers RR Venetian blind and RR of frame. Which is it? What is shutter center referred to in the instruction 83-665 (vacuum elements, where I started) Got a bit lost. George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 207K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
http://tinyurl.com/yrveyp Would this work instead? I have it up on epay, so have affiliation, but no interest. clay On 9 Jan 2008, at 11:55, dave walton wrote: Not a clue. Just want to point out that the cost of 10Gb Ethernet is getting close to Fibre Channel. Still waaay too expensive to switchover existing installations. -Dave Walton On Jan 9, 2008 2:42 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody on here know anything about Fibre channel? Specifically can you mix 2Gb and 4Gb SFPs? My guess is sure but the SFP will only work at the lower speed of the switch or SFP... Thanks -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
Used to be able to snag all sorts of fiber channel stuff at Boeing surplus. Never could figure out what I would do with that, but wired the house with thick fiber bundle cables anyway. Thought TV would one day arrive. Verizon does fibre to the house, but only to their box, not inside clay On 9 Jan 2008, at 12:04, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody on here know anything about Fibre channel? Wow, Fibre Channel is still around? Last I heard about it was at a place I used to work where some engineers were involved in a top-secret project to build some kind of FC switch with an embedded TCP stack and web server for remote administration---a big deal in the late '90s! The company closed its doors a few years later, so I figure my NDA has long since expired. I'm out of the loop now on SAN stuff, but since this was about 10 years ago, I would have assumed the technology had been replaced by something newer, faster, etc. Specifically can you mix 2Gb and 4Gb SFPs? My guess is sure but the SFP will only work at the lower speed of the switch or SFP... Yeah, I think you are OK there. Like Ethernet, as long as you have physical plug-to-socket compatibility, everything works but the speed is limited to the lowest common denominator of the hardware. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car for lt don
Oh, that is lovely. Thank god it is thousands of miles away from me. LT would look great in that and could even motor fast with the 4 speed. clay On 9 Jan 2008, at 13:50, Kaleb C. Striplin ((CAT)) wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1973- Mercedes-Benz-220D-No- Rust_W0QQitemZ150204122087QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Education
A buddy of mine works in a corporate capacity for an extremely successful charter school (operated under the public school system) operator that takes children who come from the lowest performing public schools in the worst neighborhoods -- they are not skimming high achievers or privileged kids, quite the opposite. He says there is no mystery to their success (90% graduation, a large fraction of that goes on to college), they just execute well against their well-publicized plan and objectives . One of the main points he made was that if their teachers are not performing (against well-known criteria that they commit to when they sign on) they get 2 counseling sessions then they are gone if they need a 3rd. No teachers union BS. It works extremely well -- the teachers they have are high-performing, love their jobs, and are 110% committed to their children. He points that out as one of the key differences between their org and the public school organization. (Their overhead is also minimal, and it is run like a good lean corporation with excellent committed people.) There are some children/families who cannot succeed no matter what, these are the unfortunate few that they have to let go despite their best efforts to help them succeed. There is no mystery to educating children, either in the public or private sector, if educating children is the main objective. He can tell some amazing stories about having to deal with the school district admin org (huge and dysfunctional with VERY highly-paid people, many of whom are at best marginally competent) when trying to spend money well (they get a fixed per-student payment, same as the public schools, their allocations are different). They also have significant expansion plans, but as you can imagine run up against strong entrenched interests that impedes their planned future successes. He quit a successful career in the tech sector to go back to school for a grad education degree (at a very prestigiou$ university), after an MBA some years ago, paid his own freight, and took a large pay cut to give back to society. He is quite conservative, but also extremely progressive! --R LarryT wrote: The teachers union in NY is very strong. Of the tens of thousands of teachers only 2 have ever been fired --also there are many teachers who are unable to pass 8th grade english tests or similar math tests. The union controls the state legislature - T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum elements in a 85 300SD (126 chassis) - any one else been here ???
Oh man I did one of those in the 123, I am guessing it is generally a similar PITA. I can't help you specifically on the 126, but what I did was study the pics well (such as it was with the CD manual) and get all that in my head so what I felt with my finger(s) could be translated against what I saw. Being blind could probably help in this case, what with enhanced fingers sensing being your mechanism for seeing. As I recall I could sorta see the element but not at the same time as contorting myself to touch it with one hand/ finger or get a wrench on the bolts, so it was mostly all by feel. Ah feel yer payane! --R George Larribeau wrote: Trying to remove Vacuum element for Center Nozzle I know it leaks, I have a hand vacuum pump and a gauge. (so do a few others but this one is being the most difficult to get to. I have the center console removed (what a mess) Instruction 83-665 Refers to removing shutter center and loosen air connection hose to necessary extent in 83-150. Now 83-150 has me totally confused. 83-150 covers RR Venetian blind and RR of frame. Which is it? What is shutter center referred to in the instruction 83-665 (vacuum elements, where I started) Got a bit lost. George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 207K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car for lt don
I live in Iowa, not Florida. ... Had loop glow plugs for the first winter's ownership of my 240D and quickly converted to pencil plugs the next spring. We've had a high temp of +32F for the last two days, and it feels like such a heat wave that I am tempted to throw on a pair of shorts and shovel the foot of snow off of the deck. But thinking that WOULD be a nice summer car if the AC worked. Naw, would have to sell the Quantum first and ... hmmm That being said, it is 230 miles east of me. On Jan 9, 2008 5:18 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with loop glow plugs? Randy -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
Why are you gonna use M1 ATF? While we are talking M1, a fella on the OZBENZ site posted a PDF of an article in a magazine where they subjected various synthetic and semi-synthetic engine oils to the Timken load test. To cut a long story short M1 did not do that well, especially when compared to it's semi-synthetic cousin which did three times as well. Anyway here is the thread on Ozbenz for those who wanna have a look http://ozbenz.net/viewtopic.php?f=25t=4904p=30866#p30866 Hendrik E M wrote: Thanks Larry, in it goes. :-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
I've never found anything but 1 qt bottles. I usually get it at Autozone Advance Auto - but I believe Walmart carries it now. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid What do you have to pay for it? Are you able to find it in bigger jugs? I think I have only seen it in quarts (liters) and it seems silly to have all those empty plastic bottles. Think Green! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Thanks Larry, in it goes. :-) Ed 300E On 09/01/2008, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re the M1 ATF - Yep. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? Also have a couple questions regarding a door lock that went awol the other day, but I have to poke around a little more before I post my questions for that one. lol Thanks everyone, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
it makes you wonder whether why the home schoolers are the ones they are worried about. why does my kid need a moron to read to her from a textbook when she can read it better herself? i'm just trying to figure out how long till i can send her to the local community college On Jan 9, 2008 6:07 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: going from memory, public schools must teach 3 hours perday. The balance is spent on electives. Also, home schooled kids are tested regularily here in Va. Don;t know what the reqmn;t are elsewhere. The teachers union in NY is very strong. Of the tens of thousands of teachers only 2 have ever been fired --also there are many teachers who are unable to pass 8th grade english tests or similar math tests. The union controls the state legislature - Take a look at - at some of the problems outlined at http://www.city-journal.org/html/7_2_how_teachers.html The current contract between the Board of Education and the UFT can best be described as a we-don't-do-windows document. Among the tasks that principals are forbidden to require of teachers under the contract: attending more than one staff meeting per month after school hours, walking the children to a school bus, patrolling the hallways or the lunchroom or the schoolyard, covering an extra class in an emergency, attending a lunchtime staff meeting, or coming in a few days prior to the opening of school each September to do some planning. And disciplinary action - what a joke The contract makes it almost insurmountably difficult for a principal even to begin the process of charging a teacher with incompetence under the union-written state education law. Every time the principal wants to record a negative evaluation in the teacher's personnel file, the teacher can contest that single entry through three separate grievance procedures, leading all the way up to the Board of Education. Even after the Board has upheld the principal, the teacher, with the help of the union, can go to arbitration to contest the single negative entry. The process is so tortuous that most principals don't even bother trying; they accept it as a fact of school life that a certain number of incompetent teachers must be carried on the payroll. and He told me that in the case of one totally dysfunctional teacher, he has spent close to 100 hours out of the building over the past two years in grievance sessions at the district office, at the Board of Education, and at arbitration sessions. Although every one of his negative evaluations has eventually been upheld, he still must go through the process for another year before this one employee might have to face formal disciplinary charges-a process that could take several more years The above is from just one of many articles about the power abuses of *our* public education system. It's truely an embarassment to see what this has done to countless students. Hopefully public outrage will force Germany to change its laws about home schooling at some point. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost http://tinyurl.com/369cqb Cause effect? :-) On Jan 9, 2008 8:29 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if it's still this way, but when I was a kid my cousins in Denmark only went to school a few hours a day. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT:Education
That looks like the perfect formula for success - get the bureaucrats out of the way and let the teachers teach! I've also heard of some schools that spend some of the smallest per child amounts and have the highest success rates. It's not about $/student as the adminisrators and union leaders will try to tell you.they're in it for themselves - your buddy has his heart in the right place -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Education A buddy of mine works in a corporate capacity for an extremely successful charter school (operated under the public school system) operator that takes children who come from the lowest performing public schools in the worst neighborhoods -- they are not skimming high achievers or privileged kids, quite the opposite. He says there is no mystery to their success (90% graduation, a large fraction of that goes on to college), they just execute well against their well-publicized plan and objectives . One of the main points he made was that if their teachers are not performing (against well-known criteria that they commit to when they sign on) they get 2 counseling sessions then they are gone if they need a 3rd. No teachers union BS. It works extremely well -- the teachers they have are high-performing, love their jobs, and are 110% committed to their children. He points that out as one of the key differences between their org and the public school organization. (Their overhead is also minimal, and it is run like a good lean corporation with excellent committed people.) There are some children/families who cannot succeed no matter what, these are the unfortunate few that they have to let go despite their best efforts to help them succeed. There is no mystery to educating children, either in the public or private sector, if educating children is the main objective. He can tell some amazing stories about having to deal with the school district admin org (huge and dysfunctional with VERY highly-paid people, many of whom are at best marginally competent) when trying to spend money well (they get a fixed per-student payment, same as the public schools, their allocations are different). They also have significant expansion plans, but as you can imagine run up against strong entrenched interests that impedes their planned future successes. He quit a successful career in the tech sector to go back to school for a grad education degree (at a very prestigiou$ university), after an MBA some years ago, paid his own freight, and took a large pay cut to give back to society. He is quite conservative, but also extremely progressive! --R LarryT wrote: The teachers union in NY is very strong. Of the tens of thousands of teachers only 2 have ever been fired --also there are many teachers who are unable to pass 8th grade english tests or similar math tests. The union controls the state legislature - T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] S124 300TE low miles $850
I remember somebody saying this week that its a pity there was never a 300TE 2.5 in the USA. I'm now struggling to ignore that little voice that's telling me to buy this heap and stuff my 190D engine in it. http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=BM2480089 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
I don't know about the Timken load test, but the shifting performance on subzero mornings was much improved in my 300D when I switched to M1 ATF. Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Why are you gonna use M1 ATF? While we are talking M1, a fella on the OZBENZ site posted a PDF of an article in a magazine where they subjected various synthetic and semi-synthetic engine oils to the Timken load test. To cut a long story short M1 did not do that well, especially when compared to it's semi-synthetic cousin which did three times as well. Anyway here is the thread on Ozbenz for those who wanna have a look http://ozbenz.net/viewtopic.php?f=25t=4904p=30866#p30866 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
yeah, i did the whole school thing too and what a total waste of time it was. a friend of mine dropped out when he was 16 and took his GED and just went to college. I tried the same thing and my confused euro immigrant dad was on the verge of killing me for dropping out of school. i've been looking at the courses at area colleges and many of them are on the 5th or 6th grade level anyway. do you know that you can take pre algebra at university? it is also interesting that homeschool students have relatively stringent requirements to enter open enrollment state schools while regular students are largely open enrollment. I cannot, however, find information on how to enroll a 10 year old. On Jan 9, 2008 8:41 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: i'm just trying to figure out how long till i can send her to the local community college Move to California, and send her to college now. I wish my parents had done that with me when I was bored to death in 4th grade. (that year I was given progress assessment tests that said I was functioning at the tenth grade level) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Well community colleges are for the community. I can't really fault them for offering remedial courses for those who finally wake up and realize they want to learn something. Though likely you'd do just as well checking out a textbook at the library and working through it on your own. If you have the self- discipline to do it. Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i've been looking at the courses at area colleges and many of them are on the 5th or 6th grade level anyway. do you know that you can take pre algebra at university? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
how did they pass high school if they can't do remedial work? oh, wait, no child is left behind! On Jan 9, 2008 9:00 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well community colleges are for the community. I can't really fault them for offering remedial courses for those who finally wake up and realize they want to learn something. Though likely you'd do just as well checking out a textbook at the library and working through it on your own. If you have the self- discipline to do it. Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i've been looking at the courses at area colleges and many of them are on the 5th or 6th grade level anyway. do you know that you can take pre algebra at university? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
Who says they passed high school? Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: how did they pass high school if they can't do remedial work? oh, wait, no child is left behind! On Jan 9, 2008 9:00 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well community colleges are for the community. I can't really fault them for offering remedial courses for those who finally wake up and realize they want to learn something. Though likely you'd do just as well checking out a textbook at the library and working through it on your own. If you have the self- discipline to do it. Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i've been looking at the courses at area colleges and many of them are on the 5th or 6th grade level anyway. do you know that you can take pre algebra at university? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum elements in a 85 300SD (126 chassis) - any one else been here ???
Now 83-150 has me totally confused. 83-150 covers RR Venetian blind and RR of frame. Which is it? The 'blinds' are those little louvers in the air vents. What is shutter center referred to in the instruction 83-665 (vacuum elements, where I started) Probably the knob. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fibre channel?
10G SFP's are supposed to all intercommunicate, but the theory is sometimes better than the practice. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
What's the viscosity rating of M1 ATF compared to the ATF you where using before? Just trying to establish if M1 ATF is worth the extra $$'s. Hendrik Allan Streib wrote: I don't know about the Timken load test, but the shifting performance on subzero mornings was much improved in my 300D when I switched to M1 ATF. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
I don't know, because I don't know what was in there when I got the car. I assume it was conventional Dexron ATF fluid. Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: What's the viscosity rating of M1 ATF compared to the ATF you where using before? Just trying to establish if M1 ATF is worth the extra $$'s. Hendrik Allan Streib wrote: I don't know about the Timken load test, but the shifting performance on subzero mornings was much improved in my 300D when I switched to M1 ATF. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Education
Part of their deal is that parent(s) have some degree of participation too, whether single, multiple, various combinations of mommies/daddies, whatever. That is one element of success. Another is discipline -- peer, school, and self-imposed in a positive way. Kids learn to learn and behave and succeed and derive satisfaction and pride in that. There is no mystery to successfully educating (not teaching), if that is what the purpose is. If it is featherbedding and protecting your job, then that is what is achieved. Read Thomas Friedman's book The World is Flat to find out the price of the demise of the education system and parental (and even governmental, which is really our own) responsibility in the US. There are Indian and Chinese children whose achievements far exceed most of our children's. A lot of Indian and Chinese children. A whole lot of them. Many of them are being educated at our elite universities and institutions, and going back home (though most of them would like to stay and enjoy the business potential of our society but we lump them in with the hordes of uneducated people coming across the southern border). While I do not agree with some of what he says in his book, he is a very smart guy and has a lot of interesting ideas that will make YOU think. Read that now (it's an easy read) while listening to the presidential rhetoric, and decide whether you want Change You Can Count On, 35 Years Of Advocating For Change, I Am Going To Change Washington, or The Change You Want, and see how much change you can spare for the next generation that will kick our collective asses unless we all get our act together pretty fast. Think about which one might kick some ass now rather than triangulating to make fat ones fatter. The sad thing is we have no one to blame but ourselves and our prosperous laziness (where poor people are fat and rich people are skinny -- huh? ya think the third world might be wanting some of that?) that has allowed us to focus on second and third-order issues instead of the ones that will really matter. Y'all (mostly) are a pretty smart bunch, or you wouldn't be driving fine automobiles. --R (who can next expound on the state of biomedical research in our country, and who is doing most of it, and where they will all be going after they finish those stints, and then what they will do) Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: A buddy of mine works in a corporate capacity for an extremely successful charter school (operated under the public school system) operator that takes children who come from the lowest performing public schools in the worst neighborhoods -- they are not skimming high achievers or privileged kids, quite the opposite. How much they are skimming the offspring of people who don't want to visit their kids in prison some day. I bet you can achieve a lot in education if the parents are plural and if they care. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bill hates Vista
http://tinyurl.com/2amwna I think he said that windows sux. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
my kid hasn't passed HS either. seems they are on a pretty even footing, although they are probably fully retarded, while the kid is just a tad on the stupid side (from her mother). On Jan 9, 2008 9:47 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who says they passed high school? Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: how did they pass high school if they can't do remedial work? oh, wait, no child is left behind! On Jan 9, 2008 9:00 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well community colleges are for the community. I can't really fault them for offering remedial courses for those who finally wake up and realize they want to learn something. Though likely you'd do just as well checking out a textbook at the library and working through it on your own. If you have the self- discipline to do it. Allan On Jan 9, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i've been looking at the courses at area colleges and many of them are on the 5th or 6th grade level anyway. do you know that you can take pre algebra at university? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic compensator - useless trivia
The 200D is NOT a 123. It is a 110. The Hydropneumatic compensator was first used in the 112 300SE, then made it into some 111s. The diff in a 110 is the same. It would fit in my 200D, IF I had ever found one.We are talking 60-68 here, not 80s. Airbags are NOT air shocks. My 200D still has bilsteins and airbags in the springs, and has had that setup for 32 years. At 09:03 PM 1/9/2008, you wrote: It seems than at Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:16:14 -0600, Loren wrote: I have never seen one other than the pictures in the manual. I always wanted one for my 200D, because I often carried loads. I never found one. My solution was to buy airbags from Airlift in Detriot and put them in the main springs. They work well. The last I knew, Airlift was still around and you can still buy the right size airbags to put inside the springs. Loren That won't work on a W123 'cause the damper is inside the spring. I could really use something, though. Air shocks? *shutter* --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car for lt don
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:39:03 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in Iowa, not Florida. ... Had loop glow plugs for the first winter's ownership of my 240D and quickly converted to pencil plugs the next spring. Well, you've been through the process and can do it faster now. But thinking that WOULD be a nice summer car if the AC worked. Naw, would have to sell the Quantum first and ... hmmm That being said, it is 230 miles east of me. So what's 230 miles? You could go see/retrieve it on a long Saturday. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:17:48 -0500 Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Jim C. suggested off-list that this could be caused by dirty contacts in the 4way flasher switch. Well, success, success, I removed the 4way flasher switch, opened it up and the contacts were rather ugly looking, so I cleaned 'em with a Scotch-Brite, applied a small amount of conductive grease to all the contacts as well as the connecting pins, and reassembled the switch and all is working correctly again. I've heard that disassembling the switch inside a plastic bag is a good idea to contain all the (flying) parts. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car for lt don
I can carry you over there any monday except MLK day. I think you could make it to Ames At 10:49 PM 1/9/2008, you wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:39:03 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in Iowa, not Florida. ... Had loop glow plugs for the first winter's ownership of my 240D and quickly converted to pencil plugs the next spring. Well, you've been through the process and can do it faster now. But thinking that WOULD be a nice summer car if the AC worked. Naw, would have to sell the Quantum first and ... hmmm That being said, it is 230 miles east of me. So what's 230 miles? You could go see/retrieve it on a long Saturday. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 94 Bonneville was Request for a Car FAX/more input
In a message dated 1/9/2008 12:09:20 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You will have to replace the alternator about every 50,000 miles and the water pump every 60-75,000. You should service the transmission every 50,000 miles. But, other than that it will be a great car. Some of the 94s had the supercharger option as well, this on an already strong 3.8 V6. I am still driving my 94 Bravada, which has the 4.3 V6, with balance shaft (like the 3.8) and all wheel drive. Original drive train and never rebuilt engine. This thing is still strong at 184,000 miles. Knock wood!!! The alternators GM used in that era were flawed with a small rear bearing and minimal heat sink area. Death Becomes Them, especially in Phoenix. DS is right, they had a limited life time. BUT: A large bearing housing with better ventilation is available, and one version is called Iceberg, for it's cool running, I suppose. I got my kit from JC Whitney about 7 years ago and 84,000 miles. If it hasn't been in a flood, go for it! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 ATF fluid
In a message dated 1/9/2008 2:27:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Everyone, Quick question, mobil 1 ATF synth is the right fluid for '88 300E with Auto box?? Absolutely, I use it in all my cars, including the 5 speed auto in my ML320, which calls for the factory synthetic, whatever that is.. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum elements in a 85 300SD (126 chassis) - any oneelse been here ???
Thanks - Still good and lost, Trying to interpret - Instruction 83-665 removing shutter center and loosen air connection hose to necessary extent in 83-150. Knob ?? which knob ?? InstructioInstruction 83-665 Refers to removing shutter center and loosen air connection hose to necessary extent in 83-150.n 83-665 Refers to removing shutter center and loosen air connection hose to necessary extent in 83-150. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum elements in a 85 300SD (126 chassis) - any oneelse been here ??? Now 83-150 has me totally confused. 83-150 covers RR Venetian blind and RR of frame. Which is it? The 'blinds' are those little louvers in the air vents. What is shutter center referred to in the instruction 83-665 (vacuum elements, where I started) C -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum elements in a 85 300SD (126 chassis) - any oneelse been here ???
You need to remove the center dash vent and pull the duct off behind it. If it's like the W124, the wheel that operates the damper inside is held in place with an allen head screw, accessable from the passenger compartment through the louvers. The vent itself is probably held in with spring clips or by a screw on the side visible when you open the glove box. The vacuum servo is the INSIDE the air box. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic compensator - useless trivia
It seems than at Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:32:03 -0600, Loren wrote: The 200D is NOT a 123. It is a 110. The Hydropneumatic compensator was first used in the 112 300SE, then made it into some 111s. The diff in a 110 is the same. It would fit in my 200D, IF I had ever found one.We are talking 60-68 here, not 80s. Airbags are NOT air shocks. My 200D still has bilsteins and airbags in the springs, and has had that setup for 32 years. Loren Faeth I wasn't implying that a 220D was a W123, though it may have sounded like it. I was _complaining_ 'cause I want air bags but I have W123s. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic compensator - useless trivia
call Airlift in Detriot and order the airbags then. Same ones that fit the 110 should work in the 123. It is not a big deal. If not, Airlift can tell you what works. Or you can measure the ID of the springs and you need a bag 6-8 long. Drill a hole at the spring center of the Lower control arm on each side for the air hose. At 12:38 AM 1/10/2008, you wrote: It seems than at Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:32:03 -0600, Loren wrote: The 200D is NOT a 123. It is a 110. The Hydropneumatic compensator was first used in the 112 300SE, then made it into some 111s. The diff in a 110 is the same. It would fit in my 200D, IF I had ever found one.We are talking 60-68 here, not 80s. Airbags are NOT air shocks. My 200D still has bilsteins and airbags in the springs, and has had that setup for 32 years. Loren Faeth I wasn't implying that a 220D was a W123, though it may have sounded like it. I was _complaining_ 'cause I want air bags but I have W123s. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
