[MBZ] Portland CL 1983 300SD 87K original miles $4K!
This seems like a killer deal! http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/833112540.html Mine has just over three times the miles and still runs great, so this one should make someone happy for a long long long time! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL 1983 300SD 87K original miles $4K!
Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This seems like a killer deal! http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/833112540.html No name, no phone number, exceptionally low mileage and price ... several telltale signs of a scam. Tread carefully. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 080908 4.059 4.100 4.312 4.246 4.018 4.015 4.015 4.105 4.156 4.185 080901 4.121 4.169 4.359 4.307 4.093 4.066 4.068 4.184 4.248 4.282 080825 4.145 4.199 4.382 4.360 4.113 4.073 4.098 4.227 4.286 4.359 080818 4.207 4.263 4.422 4.414 4.184 4.130 4.156 4.319 4.356 4.422 080811 4.353 4.420 4.584 4.563 4.344 4.267 4.299 4.473 4.511 4.607 080804 4.502 4.563 4.735 4.672 4.501 4.419 4.450 4.605 4.664 4.781 080728 4.603 4.664 4.806 4.772 4.604 4.518 4.570 4.657 4.766 4.869 080721 4.718 4.773 4.869 4.869 4.723 4.649 4.701 4.714 4.845 4.964 080714 4.764 4.822 4.889 4.912 4.777 4.698 4.737 4.718 4.909 5.026 080707 4.727 4.789 4.863 4.887 4.741 4.654 4.697 4.672 4.886 5.001 080630 4.645 4.704 4.822 4.822 4.643 4.571 4.604 4.638 4.817 4.928 080623 4.648 4.711 4.833 4.831 4.648 4.574 4.602 4.652 4.816 4.922 080616 4.692 4.752 4.853 4.874 4.690 4.618 4.656 4.685 4.852 4.969 080609 4.692 4.743 4.834 4.879 4.677 4.615 4.658 4.698 4.874 4.992 080602 4.707 4.759 4.846 4.907 4.687 4.643 4.664 4.680 4.878 5.027 080526 4.723 4.779 4.843 4.913 4.717 4.667 4.673 4.653 4.883 5.027 080519 4.497 4.544 4.610 4.682 4.480 4.463 4.443 4.442 4.610 4.737 080512 4.331 4.377 4.463 4.516 4.310 4.298 4.268 4.276 4.454 4.547 080505 4.149 4.194 4.337 4.345 4.117 4.101 4.084 4.156 4.303 4.382 080428 4.177 4.230 4.346 4.376 4.157 4.133 4.113 4.141 4.312 4.390 080421 4.143 4.207 4.346 4.370 4.126 4.098 4.077 4.111 4.255 4.317 080414 4.059 4.117 4.239 4.266 4.043 4.013 4.000 4.039 4.176 4.234 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350 3.454 3.511 080211 3.280 3.324 3.542 3.412 3.266 3.249 3.239 3.264 3.347 3.393 080204 3.280 3.338 3.566 3.438 3.275 3.243 3.247 3.260 3.325 3.377 080128 3.259 3.327 3.583 3.432 3.258 3.218 3.218 3.236 3.301 3.346 080121 3.270 3.343 3.594 3.472 3.264 3.228 3.222 3.229 3.327 3.360 080114 3.326 3.391 3.621 3.510 3.318 3.288 3.266 3.261 3.420 3.459 080107 3.376 3.436 3.644 3.554 3.366 3.345 3.318 3.276 3.474 3.526 071231 3.345 3.399 3.600 3.519 3.328 3.309 3.293 3.269 3.451 3.491 071224 3.308 3.356 3.584 3.497 3.275 3.277 3.246 3.268 3.411 3.434 071217 3.309 3.359 3.581 3.511 3.273 3.271 3.245 3.319 3.415 3.426 071210 3.325 3.372 3.570 3.514 3.293 3.276 3.265 3.397 3.440 3.455 071203 3.416 3.444 3.595 3.570 3.376 3.385 3.345 3.487 3.532 3.567 071126 3.444 3.453 3.590 3.574 3.389 3.423 3.360 3.527
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
It sounds like you need to go out and try a ton of cars without any real thought to buying one. Then after you've ridden in 20 or 30 then check out your notes and buy one from that... -Curt --- On Mon, 9/8/08, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] What would you buy now? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 5:49 PM Well, that sounds a bit like the 1st generation Avalon. Often described as Toyota's Buick given it is made in America and bigger than the other Toyotas. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:58 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? I had an Impala as a rental this time last year, that'd have been an '07 or maybe '08. It was an okay car, pretty powerful, reasonably comfortable, reasonably efficient, terminally boring. In June I had a Hyundai Elantra, probably an '08. I was very pleased with it, very comfortable, (I'm 6' 215#) powerful, efficient, sporty. Way more fun that the Impala but a bit smaller (not what I'd consider a small car though). If it were me I'd be sure to not count out Hyundai. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Not true, they had the same wiring. Problems may have been less obvious because of the relatively fewer engine sensors and ignition wires that had to run accross the hottest part of the engine, but they were still there. I've heard of a number of new diesel wiring harness installs. Everything I've heard indicated that the biodegradeable wiring was introduced with the M104 in 1993 and the 606 in 1995 (at least here in the US). Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:56 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems that the biodegradable wiring was limited to the vergasser 124s -- the Diesels seemed to be spared. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
I trial-fit the new ball joint and got it lined up. While the two pipe sections from the original kit worked well for size, they were together too long to fit into the clamp! I found, though, that I didn't need a pipe on the bottom at all, the adapter flange actually fit the ball joint well enough. I put it all together, hit the wishbone socket with the propane torch for a bit, then cranked on the clamp. The joint just walked right in, no problem. Cool. I then spray-painted the area with primer and black paint, since I had scuffed it up pretty well with the wire brush. I also cleaned, primed, and painted the back of the steering knuckle. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - GPS voice
Its done that way to confuse westerners... -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:54:40 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GPS voice To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I didn't take it that way - just saw an opportunity to complain about the random layout of roads back East (from the perspective of a section line guy - IFR=I follow roads). On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Didn't mean to sound like was complaining about or faulting the section lines, etc. As I indicated, they make flying and checking/setting certain heading systems a lot easier. They make navigation much simpler. 'But I don't have a problem in either area. It is shorter via the diagonal, though, but we would not wanta mess up those nice, square wheat, corn, soy bean, etc., fields - much more efficient for farming big, square and flat or gently rolling. Wilton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
You're doing all this with the stuff on the car right? --R Jim Cathey wrote: I trial-fit the new ball joint and got it lined up. While the two pipe sections from the original kit worked well for size, they were together too long to fit into the clamp! I found, though, that I didn't need a pipe on the bottom at all, the adapter flange actually fit the ball joint well enough. I put it all together, hit the wishbone socket with the propane torch for a bit, then cranked on the clamp. The joint just walked right in, no problem. Cool. I then spray-painted the area with primer and black paint, since I had scuffed it up pretty well with the wire brush. I also cleaned, primed, and painted the back of the steering knuckle. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
You're doing all this with the stuff on the car right? Yes, on the car. Did not remove spring, did not remove brake disc/hub from the steering knuckle. Harbor Freight ball joint kit, with some pipe sections cut and welded for removal adapters. Kit's own pieces served for insertion. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL 1983 300SD 87K original miles $4K!
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This seems like a killer deal! http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/833112540.html No name, no phone number, exceptionally low mileage and price ... several telltale signs of a scam. Tread carefully. Huh? Nobody gives their name in a Craigslist posting, and the majority don't give phone numbers, just the standard contact email. Looks legit to me in the absence of further data. I'm with Kevin, it could be a very good buy for someone. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - GPS voice - turn and lane directions
Come to think of it, one of the features I like a lot on mine is that it let's youi know which lane to be in by voice direction and an arrow that tells you which direction the next turn will be. Turn left, then get in the right lane sort of thing. Useful feature that. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:11 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GPS voice Does yours have a choice of voices you can use? I have not tried the others on mine as the standard works ok. Mine will usually give me about 1/4 - 1/2 mile to make the u-turn or turn around, then recalculate. It does seem to chose some odd local routes, but for the most part my IPAQ/TomTom works pretty well. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
I talked to my brother in law last evening about the issue. He is a licenced mechanic and has been for maybe 15 years. He says that ABS problems are fairly common, especially on GM products. He says that a bit of rust or a wheel bearing that is a bit loose can trick the ABS into thinking that the vehicle is sliding and result in the computer kicking in the pump which leaves you with a rock hard pedeal and no brakes. All it requires is for the air gap on the sensor to be too big. He says Chevy pickups commonly have the problem. You can be pulling into your garage, hit the brakes, and darned near run into the back wall because it suddenly feels like no brakes. He has less experience with Toyota and therefore cannot say that the design is similar and that they might have similar issues. He suggests looking into the issues carefully if we get the car back to try and avoid a repeat performance. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? I did wonder about that as well but she did not mention any chattering or other indication of ABS malfunction. I suppose it could be related. I wonder how one tests for something like that? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? Randy, Mis-behaving ABS? My family has had some adventures with ABS weirdness., like sliding out into an intersection at low speed with rock-hard brakes = ripple-y road surface confused ABS. Fred Moir Lynn MA At 02:32 PM 9/8/2008, you wrote: She wouldn't have been going all that fast. She was in a parking lot and just arcing into a spot against the building. The pedal did not go to the floor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?/ABS
Y'all need to come on up north for a bit this winter. I activate the ABS daily around here after about mid November. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?/ABS l've activated ABS only once on my 91 350SDL - 'worked very nicely. Years ago at night in the rain, a car poulled out in front of me at an intersection where I had a green light. I stomped the brakes and held them; the system pulsed with a rapid DRT-DRT-DRT-DRT-DRT-DRT-DRT, etc., as I came to a smooth, straight ahead stop short of a collision. 'Saved bo'fus. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? Far as I understand ABS systems is that it deactivates at slow speed/zero speed, otherwise the system would always try and let the wheels turn. Further ABS systems have a self diagnostic function that switches the systems off if any variation is detected, or in other words it works 100% or not at all. The only way I can think of, with my limited knowledge, for an ABS system to produce rock hard brakes is that the system has opened the brakes and is stuck there. I would expect that this would cause alarm bells to go off in the diagnostic part. I guess the way to determine if ABS is the problem is to deactivate it and see if the problem persists but the wiser thing is to have the system tested by a pro. Hendrik with ABS in the TE, my first ABS car R A Bennell wrote: I did wonder about that as well but she did not mention any chattering or other indication of ABS malfunction. I suppose it could be related. I wonder how one tests for something like that? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? Randy, Mis-behaving ABS? My family has had some adventures with ABS weirdness., like sliding out into an intersection at low speed with rock-hard brakes = ripple-y road surface confused ABS. Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Sounds good to me but my wife will not accept anything that is rear wheel drive. In our snowy winters, one does need the traction and front drive is better in those conditions. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? No crystal ball, but I sure do like these later 124 Diesels -- I think Marshall thought the '95 (?) 300D with the 606 engine was about the ultimate. Sort of lost on what to buy as a replacement however. Anyone with a crystal ball out there? Fuel mileage keeps coming to the forefront on our thoughts. A Honda Civic maybe? Don't really like small cars but most of her driving is very close to home so that might be alright. Don't want to spend a fortune but she will not be happy with any sort of a fixer upper so it has to be something relatively new. Randy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Be careful out there!
Was having coffee in the local Dairy Queen this morning when a car got clobbered by a train at the level crossing just north of the restaurant. Don't know if the flashing lights at the crossing were on. Do try to remember to always look both ways before crossing train tracks. It might save your life some day. Only one woman in the car that got hit. Not quite sure what the vehicle was. I am told it was a VW Passat - maybe a wagon as the back looked chopped off and I don't think it was a Golf. She survived the bang and was taken out of the car by fire and ambulance crews and hauled away. Car withstood the impact fairly well. Hit on the driver's side. Not sure exactly as I did not see the impact. One of the fellows I was with said that black car just spun onto the grass We thought it had been hit by the train. It was a late model Cadillac and the driver's side was somwhat mushed. Walked over and then saw an engine laying on the road and the front of the Caddy was fine. The VW car was on the front of the train a block South of us. Good thing the train is hardly moving at that crossing. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
it was written Based on your logic, one can reason that the more education one receives, the less likely they are to be a supporter of the Republican Actually, that's not far from the truth. Same for belief in God. One of the things the professors attack is the students belief system - their religion is called into doubt. Not sure why this happens but they seem to want no competition with the dogma they plan to use to indoctrinate the students. Naturally this doesn't happen to everyone and mot everyone is susceptible to this kind of attack but some will turn. And the longer they stay at their institute of higher learning the more likely the student is to consider atheism an appropriate alternative. the attack on conservatism happens at the same time using the same tactics. Some students will have a good understanding of what conservatism consist of as well as the basics of their religion making attacks less successful. There have been instances of students making conservatove arguments getting failing grades from liberal professors. Some students have taped the professors attacks on students and taken legal action against them. I;m afraid the education system is largely made up of liberals just like the media industry so the attack on conservatove values comes from several directions. Same with the movie industry - they're heavily democratic and their movies depict this - sometimes subtly sometimes not. Larry - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook you named 2 out of 10 of thousands of journalists Not a very high percentage is it? Even if you add the eight in your second list, that is 00.1% or 1 tenth of one percent, if there were only 10,000 journalists in the country. As for your party, no matter what they call it, is the socialist/communist party They use words like progressive to mask the real intent. It does not take much research to find the links from Hillary and BO to Saul Alinsky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky If you listen to JFK's speeches, he would be called a radical Conservative now. Ask what you can do for your country Tax cuts, Strong Military, an unprecendented space race. That was the democrat party. It is a very undemocratic party now. You WILL think our way, OR ELSE!I am glad you enjoy it. As for me, I like JFK's approach. Enjoy your BO while he is in the game! Take away his teleprompter and see how well you like his speeches then. The clinton machine is trying to take him out still. I don't think BO will win any more elections, even for chicago dog catcher. That is what I'd call effed as you put it. At 10:41 PM 9/8/2008, you wrote: Loren, Funny you mention that... Basically now a degree in 'journalism' means you are a democrat party hack for its propaganda machine.. I wonder if education plays a part in this. Clearly you just expressed your opinion that those who attend a post secondary institution and devote their studies to journalism end up leaning on the Democratic side. I wonder what that says about 'journalists' with inferior education (e.g high school diploma, GED, etc.). Some examples come to mind, namely: Sean Hannity - high school education, honorary degree awarded by Jerry Falwell doesn't count Shepard Smith - high school education, almost finished college (sorry almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades) Based on your logic, one can reason that the more education one receives, the less likely they are to be a supporter of the Republican Party. Of course, there are plenty Republican Party supporters that did attend college; the point herein is simply to show that your logic is effed, just like your presidential candidate. Oh yea, and it's the Democratic Party, not democrat party. Yours truly, Obama '08 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook and part of what passes for journalism. Basically now a degree in journalism means you are a democrat party hack for its propaganda machine.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Pf! You've swallowed the line on that one. Snowtires and bad power to weight ratio are WAY more important. My 240D is the best snow car I've ever driven bar NONE. Better than my Dodge Dakota in 4wd... Its heavy, low power, and with snow tires has great traction. My 190D is good but the 240D is much better. Last winter I had the summer tires and wheel in the trunk of the 190D, this winter I'm going to try some tubesand to see if I can get better balance. -Curt Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:17:12 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sounds good to me but my wife will not accept anything that is rear wheel drive. In our snowy winters, one does need the traction and front drive is better in those conditions. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
On the snowcar thing I should point out I drive 110 miles a day in snowy New England and my commute goes from 1100 feet at home to 600 feet at work. There are lots of times when its snowing at home and raining at work. The space in the middle where its sleeting is always scary watching all the cars slipping off the road. This year for those days I'll be driving the 240D with the studded snows Dwight gave me. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - GPS voice
And it's a VERY successful strategy! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its done that way to confuse westerners... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
Yea - it's a shame that they expect the students to think --- On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:34 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it was written Based on your logic, one can reason that the more education one receives, the less likely they are to be a supporter of the Republican Actually, that's not far from the truth. Same for belief in God. One of the things the professors attack is the students belief system - their religion is called into doubt. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
LarryT wrote: Same for belief in God. One of the things the professors attack is the students belief system - their religion is called into doubt. Every single person should call their religion into doubt. That way they make a decision for themselves based on evidence and logical arguments. IMO, you aren't truly religious unless you have made a decision for yourself about what your belief system is. Otherwise you're just religious out of habit (ie, you're just following in your parents). Also, I think that your parents/family are doing you a disservice if they don't make you question your beliefs. So what is wrong with your religion being called into doubt? Not sure why this happens but they seem to want no competition with the dogma they plan to use to indoctrinate the students. Its called teaching people to think critically. This is the job of any University. It is still very possible for someone with critical thinking skills who has actively searched for data to be religious. There are many logical/philosophical arguments either way. Naturally this doesn't happen to everyone and mot everyone is susceptible to this kind of attack but some will turn. And the longer they stay at their institute of higher learning the more likely the student is to consider atheism an appropriate alternative. Not being susceptible to an attack of critical thinking sounds like a bad thing to me. And why isn't Atheism an appropriate alternative? EVERYTHING is an alternative when you're trying to decide on your religious belief system!!! It's not just a choice between Christianity and Atheism! There have been instances of students making conservatove arguments getting failing grades from liberal professors. Some students have taped the professors attacks on students and taken legal action against them. Statistically or anecdotally? In the south the opposite is likely to happen. Especially on the religion front. Also, there are always jackass professors who will fail students based on *anything* they don't agree on whether it is politics, religion, an interpretation of Shakespeare, the color of the wall, etc. Not saying I agree with it, but it isn't strictly related to religion/politics. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - GPS voice
Well yeah, we've had lots of practice... --- On Tue, 9/9/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GPS voice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:40 PM And it's a VERY successful strategy! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its done that way to confuse westerners... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
You might convince me but I tell you, you would not convince my wife. In any event, tires do make a huge difference but I do think front drive does work better in the snow. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:50 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? Pf! You've swallowed the line on that one. Snowtires and bad power to weight ratio are WAY more important. My 240D is the best snow car I've ever driven bar NONE. Better than my Dodge Dakota in 4wd... Its heavy, low power, and with snow tires has great traction. My 190D is good but the 240D is much better. Last winter I had the summer tires and wheel in the trunk of the 190D, this winter I'm going to try some tubesand to see if I can get better balance. -Curt Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:17:12 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sounds good to me but my wife will not accept anything that is rear wheel drive. In our snowy winters, one does need the traction and front drive is better in those conditions. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:51 AM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might convince me but I tell you, you would not convince my wife. In any event, tires do make a huge difference but I do think front drive does work better in the snow. Like somebody said, the only difference between FWD and RWD is which end goes off the road first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Maybe on braking but my experience would indicate that the weight over the driving wheels helps in other ways. It was similar with the old rear drive VW bugs. They went through snow well. Might have partly been the narrow tires but I believe the weight over the driving wheels helped. Also an issue similar to ABS I think in the sense that one can still steer. The front drive vehicles steer better in snow. The wheels pull the car in the direction one wants to go. Often with rear drive, one would plow straight ahead even if one kept moving with the wheels cranked to the side. That was an issue with my old 2 wheel drive Suburban. Lots of weight so it didn't spin but it was not great at turning. We would get ruts in our back lane and the truck didn't like climbing out of the ruts. Turn the wheel and slide down the rut straight ahead. Had to remember to climb out of the rut at some speed before I got to my garage so that I could turn across the ruts into the garage for parking. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:51 AM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might convince me but I tell you, you would not convince my wife. In any event, tires do make a huge difference but I do think front drive does work better in the snow. Like somebody said, the only difference between FWD and RWD is which end goes off the road first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Well, it is now official, I guess. We need another car. The insurance appraiser stopped looking after he had tallied up over $9K in repair costs. They have offered us $9,095 for the car which I think is probably fair. The car was really nice but also 10 years old. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Detailing Questions
3 Quick questions (w/possible Mercedes content :-) ) 1. What is the best buffer to use on the cars paint? I.E. Porter Cable, ect. Dual action, rotary...ect. 2. What is the best way to clean, shampoo, scrub cloth upholstery? 3. What is the best way to clean, shampoo, scrub carpets? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rust Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!
While replacing a headlight wiring harness I found something I thought my 91 didn;t have - rust. The sheetmetal behind the headlight on the passenger side (below the air filter) appears to have been repaired following a fender bender. I suspect the fender and headlight unit was replaced but the horizontal sheetmetal looks to have gotten the Bondo treatment. It was covered with paint and looked like huge welds under the paint - a few taps with a screwdriver and a hole appeared. So, I'm not sure what to do - nothing (which I'm leaning to) after putting some anti-rust on it - or trying to replace it with a small patch panel. I suspect the area will continue to rust if noting is done and there's no gurantee I would find all the rust if I try to replace it with a patch panel. Because of the heavy layer of paint, I cannot reach the rust from the top - working on it from below is always a PITA. Anyone got any experience with this kind of stuff? Suggestions? Thanks - Larry - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Detailing Questions
I just did the Sub's carpets last week, I used hot water and a bit of orange cleaner (like Simple Green but smells good), scrubbed it in hard with a stiff brush, then used a wet/dry shopvac to suck up a lot of the water (did not get it all, still needed to dry in the heat). I suppose you could use the carpet cleaner in a spray bottle or like you put in a machine, but I'm not sure it is anything special (except it doesn't foam up). There are cans of foamy stuff with a brush on it, for upholstery too. Again, I'm not sure that is anything special. Carpets came out pretty good -- my wife likes to spill her coffee so the cream was smelling real good, and most of the brown stains came out. You can probably follow sort of the same procedure with cloth seats, but maybe not use as much water -- maybe a sponge instead of a brush, or a steamer vac that sprays the water right by the nozzle then sucks it right up. Best paint buffer is what you have 2 of! Those powered things kinda scare me, and tend to leave swirl marks. --R Rick Knoble wrote: 3 Quick questions (w/possible Mercedes content :-) ) 1. What is the best buffer to use on the cars paint? I.E. Porter Cable, ect. Dual action, rotary...ect. 2. What is the best way to clean, shampoo, scrub cloth upholstery? 3. What is the best way to clean, shampoo, scrub carpets? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!
It's a non-visible panel (from the outside of the car), right? If so, get a wire brush on a drill and remove all of the old paint and bondo. Then coat whatever metal is left with POR-15 and call it good. I'd only add a patch panel if there is so much rust that it might weaken an important part, or if it's visible. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:16 PM, LarryT wrote: While replacing a headlight wiring harness I found something I thought my 91 didn;t have - rust. The sheetmetal behind the headlight on the passenger side (below the air filter) appears to have been repaired following a fender bender. I suspect the fender and headlight unit was replaced but the horizontal sheetmetal looks to have gotten the Bondo treatment. It was covered with paint and looked like huge welds under the paint - a few taps with a screwdriver and a hole appeared. So, I'm not sure what to do - nothing (which I'm leaning to) after putting some anti-rust on it - or trying to replace it with a small patch panel. I suspect the area will continue to rust if noting is done and there's no gurantee I would find all the rust if I try to replace it with a patch panel. Because of the heavy layer of paint, I cannot reach the rust from the top - working on it from below is always a PITA. Anyone got any experience with this kind of stuff? Suggestions? Thanks - Larry - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Headlight problem
Howdy - A couple of weeks ago I wrote about an intermittant low beam problem on my '91 300D - only the low beam on the pass side was affected - no problems with the fuse - but when I was checkng the bulb I found the push-on plug that attaches to the rear of the bulb had a strange problem - the center electrode connector was partially melted and protruded outward from the socket - making the outher plugs not connect I think. Anyway - got a new harness and it seems to be fixed - Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net Carb Jet Settings: http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL 29 MB
http://eastnc.craigslist.org/cto/799685448.html No interest, etc. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!
Thx Tyler - Good strategy - I'm a big believe in POR15 and their other products. When restoring my 66 MGB I had the front fenders off for several years and the sheet metal inner fenders were exposed the whole time. This was in my garage so weather wasn't severe. But even in the relatively soft environment, it never even threatened to stop working. - Original Message - From: Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust Yuck!!! It's a non-visible panel (from the outside of the car), right? If so, get a wire brush on a drill and remove all of the old paint and bondo. Then coat whatever metal is left with POR-15 and call it good. I'd only add a patch panel if there is so much rust that it might weaken an important part, or if it's visible. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:16 PM, LarryT wrote: While replacing a headlight wiring harness I found something I thought my 91 didn;t have - rust. The sheetmetal behind the headlight on the passenger side (below the air filter) appears to have been repaired following a fender bender. I suspect the fender and headlight unit was replaced but the horizontal sheetmetal looks to have gotten the Bondo treatment. It was covered with paint and looked like huge welds under the paint - a few taps with a screwdriver and a hole appeared. So, I'm not sure what to do - nothing (which I'm leaning to) after putting some anti-rust on it - or trying to replace it with a small patch panel. I suspect the area will continue to rust if noting is done and there's no gurantee I would find all the rust if I try to replace it with a patch panel. Because of the heavy layer of paint, I cannot reach the rust from the top - working on it from below is always a PITA. Anyone got any experience with this kind of stuff? Suggestions? Thanks - Larry - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 29 MB
powered by a vette engine (chevette) --R Wilton Strickland wrote: http://eastnc.craigslist.org/cto/799685448.html No interest, etc. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buffer
... What is the best buffer to use on the cars paint? I.E. Porter Cable, ect. Dual action, rotary...ect... I have plenty of experience with this and my opinion is, the Porter Cable random orbital buffer using a foam pad will be what you need. There are pads made for polishing and pads made for waxing but I've found for waxing a good supply of cloths of the proper material work well. If your paint has been neglected then expect the first time to take a while but the time and effort will pay off. After that, keeping it that way will be much easier. You can go to www.griotsgarage.com to look at the various materials but I bought the Porter Cable kit they sell from a tool outfit in New England for about 25% less. I am still a fan of their other products and use them all the time, what with two garage queens to maintain compulsively. RLE ** Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
Ah -- oboe. No doubt a good kisser given the mouth muscles required for playing that particular instrument. If a kiss you need, go for the double-reed. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: transferring in 1983 to North Idaho Collegehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Idaho_College My wife is currently the Oboe instructor at NIC. -- Jim -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 29 MB
Wilton Strickland wrote: http://eastnc.craigslist.org/cto/799685448.html They're cheaper in Michigan: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/822583931.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
Okay, I've gotta call bullshit here. When Obama spoke in Jefferson, there was NO teleprompter. He gave a good speech (no doubt memorized) but then answered audience questions for a half hour. He didn't stumble, he didn't freeze up -- he talked just like he did from what was obviously a prepared text. Like him or not, this guy knows his stuff and doesn't need to pull out note cards to talk. He didn't talk in generalities, he spoke in facts and figures and programs. My shirt is lower left in the attached photo. Wife (Debbie) is wearing red, beside me. Lots of journalists there (including CNN) so I am sure if he was pulling facts and figures out of his butt, he'd have been busted for it long ago. Wanna let McCain try that trick? This isn't something I saw on television. I was there, not six feet away from him. On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Enjoy your BO while he is in the game! Take away his teleprompter and see how well you like his speeches then. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: obama.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 11461 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080909/31a7bb55/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Headlight problem
LarryT wrote: Anyway - got a new harness and it seems to be fixed - Does the car take 9000 series bulbs? (9004, 9006, etc) From what I've heard, the connectors used with those bulbs can't reliably handle the current demands of a headlight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Curt's hood
Curt, how's the hood? Photos? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
I guess I missed it, what car are we talking about, what happened to it? R A Bennell wrote: Well, it is now official, I guess. We need another car. The insurance appraiser stopped looking after he had tallied up over $9K in repair costs. They have offered us $9,095 for the car which I think is probably fair. The car was really nice but also 10 years old. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1662 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 10:47 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
I could care less about how good somebody does a speech, it doesnt really matter about anything. Wonko the Sane wrote: Okay, I've gotta call bullshit here. When Obama spoke in Jefferson, there was NO teleprompter. He gave a good speech (no doubt memorized) but then answered audience questions for a half hour. He didn't stumble, he didn't freeze up -- he talked just like he did from what was obviously a prepared text. Like him or not, this guy knows his stuff and doesn't need to pull out note cards to talk. He didn't talk in generalities, he spoke in facts and figures and programs. My shirt is lower left in the attached photo. Wife (Debbie) is wearing red, beside me. Lots of journalists there (including CNN) so I am sure if he was pulling facts and figures out of his butt, he'd have been busted for it long ago. Wanna let McCain try that trick? This isn't something I saw on television. I was there, not six feet away from him. On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Enjoy your BO while he is in the game! Take away his teleprompter and see how well you like his speeches then. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1662 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 10:47 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
my experience would indicate that the weight over the driving wheels helps in other ways. It was similar with the old rear drive VW bugs. They went through snow well. Might have partly been the narrow tires but I believe the weight over the driving wheels helped. Click 'n' Clack tested a FWD Honda (Accura?) against an old RWD land yacht. The yacht kicked the Honda's butt. Their conclusion? Weight. It's all about weight. FWD is only useful because cars that are made lighter need the extra weight over the drive wheels. Very best winter traction is with my pickup truck. Carrying the camper. Some 3000# of weight makes _such_ a difference. We were traveling slip-free on roads where everybody else was spinning and spinning out. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I guess I missed it, what car are we talking about, what happened to it? I think it was Randy's wife that rammed a curb with her Avalon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Jim Cathey wrote: Click 'n' Clack tested a FWD Honda (Accura?) against an old RWD land yacht. The yacht kicked the Honda's butt. Their conclusion? Weight. It's all about weight. Too bad 165/80R15 snow tires are hard to find these days. You don't need much weight in a Saab 99 running on 165s. If the tires are wide, it takes a lot of weight to cut through the snow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
FWD cars have better drive traction in the snow only because most of the weight is above the drive tires. But they have worse steering traction because some of the steering tires traction is already being used for drive traction. FWD was almost universally adopted by the auto industry, not because its better, but because its cheaper. Then the marketing gurus took over and started the better on ice, snow and rain myth. You'll note that Mercedes never signed up - they know better. Also, the best car on snow was and still is the old VW bug. The engine is over the drive wheels, giving great traction and the steering tires are free to do what they are supposed to do - steer! Tom www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 9/9/08 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? You might convince me but I tell you, you would not convince my wife. In any event, tires do make a huge difference but I do think front drive does work better in the snow. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:50 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? Pf! You've swallowed the line on that one. Snowtires and bad power to weight ratio are WAY more important. My 240D is the best snow car I've ever driven bar NONE. Better than my Dodge Dakota in 4wd... Its heavy, low power, and with snow tires has great traction. My 190D is good but the 240D is much better. Last winter I had the summer tires and wheel in the trunk of the 190D, this winter I'm going to try some tubesand to see if I can get better balance. -Curt Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:17:12 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sounds good to me but my wife will not accept anything that is rear wheel drive. In our snowy winters, one does need the traction and front drive is better in those conditions. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1661 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 4:58 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
Also, the best car on snow was and still is the old VW bug. The engine is over the drive wheels, giving great traction and the steering tires are free to do what they are supposed to do - steer! My parents had one, and there's a killer hill to get up to on the way to their house. A 90-degree turn (stop) at the bottom of a steep hill, followed by a long sweeping turn at the top and up another hill. The bug always did about the best. They may have put sand in the rear too. However, its average score as a winter car is lowered, and considerably, by its pathetic excuse for a heater/defroster. I also believe the FWD reputation is largely myth, and I certainly don't like the way it handles. So the butt end of RWD gets a bit squirrely in the snow, so what? Back off the throttle a bit. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Algae to fuel
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Re: [MBZ] Algae to fuel
There's some pretty bold claims there, but I hope he's right! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html RLE -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
And when did the planned obsolescence end? At 09:28 AM 9/9/2008, you wrote: Not true, they had the same wiring. Problems may have been less obvious because of the relatively fewer engine sensors and ignition wires that had to run accross the hottest part of the engine, but they were still there. I've heard of a number of new diesel wiring harness installs. Everything I've heard indicated that the biodegradeable wiring was introduced with the M104 in 1993 and the 606 in 1995 (at least here in the US). Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:56 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems that the biodegradable wiring was limited to the vergasser 124s -- the Diesels seemed to be spared. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
back when i lived in upstate new york and cars were big and rear drive, you'd just put a couple of hundred pounds of sand or cat litter or rock salt in the trunk On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my experience would indicate that the weight over the driving wheels helps in other ways. It was similar with the old rear drive VW bugs. They went through snow well. Might have partly been the narrow tires but I believe the weight over the driving wheels helped. Click 'n' Clack tested a FWD Honda (Accura?) against an old RWD land yacht. The yacht kicked the Honda's butt. Their conclusion? Weight. It's all about weight. FWD is only useful because cars that are made lighter need the extra weight over the drive wheels. Very best winter traction is with my pickup truck. Carrying the camper. Some 3000# of weight makes _such_ a difference. We were traveling slip-free on roads where everybody else was spinning and spinning out. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
Larry is spot on, except one thing. I'll take issue with they are heavily democratic. Democracy is the LAST thing they want. Larry meant voting with the democrat party. But these people are heavily socialist/communist. At 11:34 AM 9/9/2008, you wrote: I;m afraid the education system is largely made up of liberals just like the media industry so the attack on conservatove values comes from several directions. Same with the movie industry - they're heavily democratic and their movies depict this - sometimes subtly sometimes not. Larry Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now?
FWD can be really scary when the front end breaks loose. I prefer a good MB Diesel with some weight in the trunk and blizzaks. My 110 200D or the old 190Dcs could go anywhere until the belly pan floats on snow, as long as the tires were good and you had some stuff in the trunk, or several passengers. At 11:17 AM 9/9/2008, you wrote: Sounds good to me but my wife will not accept anything that is rear wheel drive. In our snowy winters, one does need the traction and front drive is better in those conditions. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you buy now? No crystal ball, but I sure do like these later 124 Diesels -- I think Marshall thought the '95 (?) 300D with the 606 engine was about the ultimate. Sort of lost on what to buy as a replacement however. Anyone with a crystal ball out there? Fuel mileage keeps coming to the forefront on our thoughts. A Honda Civic maybe? Don't really like small cars but most of her driving is very close to home so that might be alright. Don't want to spend a fortune but she will not be happy with any sort of a fixer upper so it has to be something relatively new. Randy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
Actually it is very important to be able to give good speeches. You obviously did not pay attention the last time I went through all this. Well.the reason isummnh, because...I guess.if you can capture your audiences attention.and..umnhmake them believe..in ummnhwhat it is you're trying to get across.then I guess aathey may think that you got half a brain..and perhaps may be worth voting forbut you know..aaahhemm...a lot of people don't bother to listen to speeches I guess.but I suppose there could be a few who areahm ah ummnh.interested in whether the future leader of the nation has the...you knowability to be able toumnhhtalk well..or something like that. And you know..if the candidate can't be able to..ummnh...get the message across to the folks at homehe may have trouble telling some.ahhembad person type leader...in some other place somewhere...how the US or should I say where the US is at with their attitudeI guess what i am trying to say is that the President has to represent the US of A and if he can't come across as..umnh ahh...you knowsmart type sort of personor perhaps to put it better a strong leader who does not ahh a lot and.you know..is sort of sure of his position on an issue. I hope this clears things up, next questionI guess. Hendrik who is not a good orator Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I could care less about how good somebody does a speech, it doesnt really matter about anything. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Algae to fuel
Not sure how many years, but our Dissel fool will come form algae. There are a lot of people working on it now. It is practical to farm algae, and it can be turned into fuel. At 09:58 PM 9/9/2008, you wrote: There's some pretty bold claims there, but I hope he's right! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html RLE -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook
we'll probably disagree here but I want my kinds to adopt my values not some guy I;m paying to teach history.. Religion is faith based - there's often no logic to it and no one will find evidence that Jesus died on a Cross. IMO, it doesn't have anything to do with teaching the kids to think. it's about breaking down their belief systems. - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obama and political gobbeldegook Yea - it's a shame that they expect the students to think --- On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:34 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it was written Based on your logic, one can reason that the more education one receives, the less likely they are to be a supporter of the Republican Actually, that's not far from the truth. Same for belief in God. One of the things the professors attack is the students belief system - their religion is called into doubt. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT She's baaaaack, maybe
Senator Clinton may replace Senator Biden as the Dem VP candidate. It was just a short blurt at a link I clicked on. Biden would in no way be dumped, but for some reason, he would not be able to continue and Clinton would be asked to fill the slot. Anyone else hear this? The race is on. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT She's baaaaack, maybe
Harry, No!!!What link??? Pretty sorry way to run an election If it's true. IMHO Chuck On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:11 PM, harry watkins wrote: Senator Clinton may replace Senator Biden as the Dem VP candidate. It was just a short blurt at a link I clicked on. Biden would in no way be dumped, but for some reason, he would not be able to continue and Clinton would be asked to fill the slot. Anyone else hear this? The race is on. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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