Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement
The emails are being rejected by my email server, not my ISP. This happens on webmail at work, my phone (Blackjack2), and my laptop at home OR at church. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (278,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (181 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rejected by what server? I have been playing with this link ( *http://tinyurl.com/5szzc4*or *http://preview.tinyurl.com/5szzc4 *) from thebulletin *dot* us for most of the last 24 hours. If I simply try send just the www thebulletin us (with '.' added in correctly) as an address to be clicked on or copied/pasted into a web browser, my email is rejected by the server EVERY time. I've replied and sent other hyperlinks and none of them have been rejected. This is really getting under my skin and I'm going to do something about it. I will contact the email hosting company tomorrow and I would like everyone's thoughts on this before I call. Thanks, Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen or will he end up inCuba?
A national magazine did a feature on that idea a few decades ago, If the South Had Won the Civil War. I don't recall which magazine, though. The possible Confederate States of America map they had showed Cuba as a state, but that is about all I remember from so long ago. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:18 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen or will he end up inCuba? The US Civil War was about more than slavery. At that time the main federal tax was import duties. The south, having little ability to manufacture goods paid a very disproportionate share of these taxes while the north made a lot of their own stuff and didn't need many imports. Lincoln's emancipation proclamation was a political move that only freed slaves in the south while any slaves in the north (still slaves under Dred-Scott) were not effected. The primary result was to push back open support for the south in Europe and the UK who were then anti-slave. Practically speaking, slavery was already doomed in the US because machines would be more economical in a just a few years. The real issue was secession and slavery was just one factor. The south believed that they because they joined the union voluntarily and could also leave if they wanted to. The constitution was silent (and still is) on that issue. Lincoln believed that the union would continue to fragment (like Germany) over every little issue once the precedent was set so, despite much political resistance in the north, he went to war to keep the union intact. By any measure, it was the worst war in US history. One wonders how the history of the world would be different if the south had been allowed to secede. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 03:05 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen or will he end up inCuba? Yeah I know that 'rule of law' thing is a bummer, especially when the US has to set up a concentration camp in Cuba (of all places, perhaps they put it on an old disused missile site) and then kidnap people from all over the world and torture them there. Apparently a couple of Oz citizens where 'invited' there as well. Of course the British being cultured and having a rule of law, made a big noise about their citizens being there and I suppose have a bit of clout in Washington and their people got let go pretty quick. Now we are a bit more laid back and trusting I suppose and believed that the people being held in the camp where big terrorists and this was all part of winning the war on terror. However our patience did grow a bit thin after a while (years) and the former PM had an election coming up and finally worked up the courage to ask George if it would be possible to do something about the guests of the US of A (ooh sorry that should be guests of the socialist republic of Cuba) (oooh double sorry that should be guests of the US military). All of a sudden a secret trial/military tribunal was organized and the person in question got released into Oz custody to do a few more months in the local jail and is not allowed to talk about any of this to anyone, otherwise we might have to let the US kidnap him again. Anyway if the South didn't want a war, all they had to do was to act civilized and abolish slavery. Now you might be OK with some states of the Union stealing people from Africa and forcing them to work for nothing and thereby denying them their basic human rights (apparently there is something about the rights of people in the constitution) but apparently the southern states did not read the constitution or felt it did not apply to them in that regard. My guess is that Lincoln felt the south was governed by people who went against the constitution and as such the war was justified in his view. Perhaps Lincoln really believed that America was the land of the free, as opposed to having underclasses of people with lesser rights. Now as far as that Holocaust denier goes, for one thing he was warned that if he didn't stop his stuff he would have the book thrown at him. He was well aware that he was violating German law and that the British where not going to hide him. Now are you going to maintain your stance that he was kidnapped or was he legally extradited? My take is that he is an embarrassment to the Australian nation and as long as everything is legal (including the right to a fair trial in an timely manner) they can stick him in jail for as long as they want and I don't think anyone in Oz will even care. He is an idiot saying stupid things to stir up trouble or whatever his plans are, whilst saying stupid things is not against the law here, it is in Germany. Hendrik who is off to do some domestic chores because we
Re: [MBZ] W124 trip odometer
The purpose of having the gasser is to drive it in the winter. Debbie is waiting for her key to come from Rusty (hopefully soon) before demanding possession of the 300E. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:20 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the excuse for this car (vergasser, not Diesel) was that it was Debbie to drive - why are YOU taking it the two blocks to work? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers
Charleston SC area. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: That person is extremely serious. What state is your Freecycle in? I am about to unload a John Deere mailbox and clock (new in boxes). I was thinking eBay but I just might make their day. Don On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am taking a really wild guess and deciding that this person is serious. Can't quite figure, but there you go. Maybe I'll unload some poker-playing-dog and children-with-big-eyes paintings on them, just to elevate the artistic ambiance of their new place. *** We just got our new place and are doing the kitchen in a country theme, the basis is John Deere, and we wanted to see if anyone had anything collecting dust, we would gladly take it off of your hands! John Deere or anything that would fit our country kitchen theme would be great. *** --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen or will he end up in Cuba?
lincoln? should have killed himself! barring that, he should have done nothing regarding the confederate states of america. you, lincoln and dubya: 3 peas, 1 pod. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I take you are referring to me as being the Australian revisionist? I am not killing anyone, I am stating my view point and allowing everyone else to state theirs. Further you have not given any logical arguments as to how Lincoln should have proceeded. So how can I kill anything that you have written? Far as I am concerned Lincoln was caught between a rock and a hard place. So if Iran, North Korea and others have a policy of developing nuclear weapons they should (according to the average American) be able to do this? I am not even going to mention the once former sovereign nations of Iraq and Afghanistan. The argument that slavery would have naturally stopped because of mechanization is fanciful at best. They still need people to operate machines and work in factories and clean houses and cook food and all the other jobs that require labor. As a side note, 20 years ago I had a holiday job chipping cotton, with a hoe walking up and down cotton rows getting rid of weeds. I think now they have selective herbicides to do this but there is still a truck load of work to do on a farm. There a million what if the south has gone it alone, however one to ponder is WW2 in which the south may well have sided with the Axis, thus making things very interesting. The US of A may well not have developed an A bomb, whereas the USSR might have, giving us a very interesting (and perhaps short) cold war. Now we can all sit back and ponder the world we have today, it might not be perfect but it could be a hell of a lot worse. Hendrik the revisionist Gary Hurst wrote: he's some kind of australian revisionist who believe in just killing everyone who disagrees with him. i didn't know that such people still existed. frightening. if a sovereign nation has policies that you don't agree with, just burn and kill them until they comply. maybe that is how they do it in sydney and tel aviv, but i'd like to think the average american finds this outlook as shocking as i do. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The US Civil War was about more than slavery. At that time the main federal tax was import duties. The south, having little ability to manufacture goods paid a very disproportionate share of these taxes while the north made a lot of their own stuff and didn't need many imports. Lincoln's emancipation proclamation was a political move that only freed slaves in the south while any slaves in the north (still slaves under Dred-Scott) were not effected. The primary result was to push back open support for the south in Europe and the UK who were then anti-slave. Practically speaking, slavery was already doomed in the US because machines would be more economical in a just a few years. The real issue was secession and slavery was just one factor. The south believed that they because they joined the union voluntarily and could also leave if they wanted to. The constitution was silent (and still is) on that issue. Lincoln believed that the union would continue to fragment (like Germany) over every little issue once the precedent was set so, despite much political resistance in the north, he went to war to keep the union intact. By any measure, it was the worst war in US history. One wonders how the history of the world would be different if the south had been allowed to secede. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement
you are downloading porn at church?? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The emails are being rejected by my email server, not my ISP. This happens on webmail at work, my phone (Blackjack2), and my laptop at home OR at church. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (278,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (181 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rejected by what server? I have been playing with this link ( *http://tinyurl.com/5szzc4*or *http://preview.tinyurl.com/5szzc4 *) from thebulletin *dot* us for most of the last 24 hours. If I simply try send just the www thebulletin us (with '.' added in correctly) as an address to be clicked on or copied/pasted into a web browser, my email is rejected by the server EVERY time. I've replied and sent other hyperlinks and none of them have been rejected. This is really getting under my skin and I'm going to do something about it. I will contact the email hosting company tomorrow and I would like everyone's thoughts on this before I call. Thanks, Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax
Mitch wrote: Who gives a shit about Joe the Plumber? The only thing that matters is what the Candidate(s) said to him. Any attacks on the guy who asked a tough question are just there to cover up what Osama said in answering him. I can't believe anybody falls for this shit. Well said Mitch. There have been two VERY shocking things that have occurred in these two debates. The first is the spread the wealth around issue - which people are actually talking about. AND Obama's answer to the question about whether Health Care is a right, a privilege, or a responsibility. Obama said it was a right. Do you all realize what a MASSIVE shift that would be in our government. If health care is a right, then the government must provide it to everyone. If you don't have it, then the government must pay for it - i.e. guarantee your right to it. This single comment demonstrates unequivocally Sen. Obama's political philosophy. He is a socialist. I am not being dramatic or alarmist. This is one of the foundational philosophies of socialism. The government must provide for your health and welfare (which of course our constitution refers to also - but NO ONE other than the few socialists candidates have espoused such a radical idea). This is a seductively simple idea to just say it off the cuff, the way Senator Obama did. The sheep who were watching the debate did not even understand the HUGE leap in philosophy this simple little idea represents. The media didn't even blink. I bet most people have idea that he said it and no idea that it matters what his answer was. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status
Aren't organizations that receive tax free status obligated to refrain from supporting one political group or another, or even making political statements? I don't think so. But ones that are tax-funded must be. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Who's in Oregon?
Does Kevin or any other Oregon lister want a great set of $1000 speakers for $100? If these things were about 1500 miles closer to me... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260301139557 Ah, the Time Windows. I wanted a set, but they were too much for me at the time. I ended up with a set of their lesser Time Frames, which I still use. I thought them superior to anything else available in the local stores in that price range, at the time. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Was OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin, now Our Entitlement Culture
The issue is not math, the issue is a general lack of willingness to work. They would rather sit in front of the tube with their bud-lite chips than go out get a second job or an education to better themselves. Now, I have no problem with the Earned Income Credit program in principal. Kaleb's family probably qualifies because of the number of children they now have, but Kaleb works! He has a day job he peddles used Mercedes parts on the side! My issue is that, like the family members I mentioned in my example, the plan enables laziness builds an entitlement culture! Both families I mentioned were fully capable of working extra hours making much more than they netted with EIC but they chose not to. And now they have trained their children to do the same thing. In other words, the EIC program has fostered a second generation who would rather suck dollars out of the system than go to work. The issue is one of culture and I'm afraid we are building a even larger entitlement culture with many millions of hands reaching out to the Federal Government for money. This is the exact reason I am not voting for Obama. His entire career has been composed of programs designed to help the poor by stealing from the rich. And I'm sure that to some percentage, his programs have been a great success, but at what cost to our society? Do we need more Government handouts? Do we need to tax the rich give to the poor create an even larger entitlement culture than we have now? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin They don't do math very well, do they -- they'd be far better off working in a better job than keeping the earned income credit. Same with TANF, etc. I place the blame on the parents who didn't value a good education. No, it's not the schools fault - it's the parents. But the damage runs even deeper I have proof. Years ago, two of my Sister in'laws their families refused to improve their financial position by finding better paying jobs for fear of loosing their Earned Incom Credit. When the kids aged out moved on, they lost their Earned Income Credit both families were very bitter about the loss - they believed and still believe that the Government owed it to them. Now the children of both families are having babies are doing the exact same thing! To-date 3 nieces 1 nephew belonging to these two families qualify draw and when I pose the do you want to find a better job question to them, I get the same response I got from their parents! So, who's for weath redistribution in this country? Not Me!!! Tom www.kegkits.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 6:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1734 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 7:25 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement
Negative, Ghost Rider. Luther Gary Hurst wrote: you are downloading porn at church?? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The emails are being rejected by my email server, not my ISP. This happens on webmail at work, my phone (Blackjack2), and my laptop at home OR at church. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (278,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (181 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rejected by what server? I have been playing with this link ( *http://tinyurl.com/5szzc4*or *http://preview.tinyurl.com/5szzc4 *) from thebulletin *dot* us for most of the last 24 hours. If I simply try send just the www thebulletin us (with '.' added in correctly) as an address to be clicked on or copied/pasted into a web browser, my email is rejected by the server EVERY time. I've replied and sent other hyperlinks and none of them have been rejected. This is really getting under my skin and I'm going to do something about it. I will contact the email hosting company tomorrow and I would like everyone's thoughts on this before I call. Thanks, Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers
Oh. 'Thought you were talking about one on post at the road/street, with wheels, etc., maybe - tractor-like. John Deere green and yellow. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers It is green, and the proper shade of green. http://don1.homelinux.net/~don/mailbox/ On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: How is a letterbox going to go in a kitchen, I can see the clock working. Nah you're better off sending me the letterbox, as I have a need for a newy. Is it in the shape of a tractor or combine harvester, perhaps in keeping with recent discussion a cotton picker shaped letterbox? Yeah I can see that working real well. http://jddealer.deere.com/DeereFiles/RegionNA/LargeImages/Combines/Comb-Cott onPickers9976-LI12361.jpg Hendrik living in a land where people use old refrigerators as letterboxes Wonko the Sane wrote: That person is extremely serious. What state is your Freecycle in? I am about to unload a John Deere mailbox and clock (new in boxes). I was thinking eBay but I just might make their day. Don ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?
Scott R. wrote: Why is Sarah less qualified than other governor candidates, say Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter? Categorically, I would think someone with executive experience would be more qualified to be president than someone who only has experience as a member of a committee. Good question Scott. Here is a letter to the editor of our local that was published a few weeks ago that asks some of the same questions. (I think the author this letter must be a genius). Dear Editor, I am writing to you after having read the editorial by Davis Merrritt. His editorial is distorted, lacking in intellectual honesty, and ignorant of history. Mr. Merritt criticizes Governor Sarah Palin because she lacks foreign policy experience. In fact, after hearing the Charlie Gibson interview, Mr. Merritt concluded that the choice of Governor Palin was reckless and cynical. I think, despite Mr. Merritt's former role as Editor of the Wichita Eagle, that he has failed to pay attention to last 50 years of presidential elections. No sitting senator since Kennedy has been elected President. Now, presumably Mr. Merritt believes that Senators gain foreign policy experience while serving on various committees and making campaign trips to foreign lands. For the sake of argument, let's ignore the fact that Governor Palin is the candidate for Vice President and compare her credentials to previous candidates for President. Let's begin with President Clinton. Bill Clinton graduated from Law School in 1973 and returned to Arkansas as a College Professor. A year later, he ran for Congress and was defeated. Then he ran for and won (without opposition) the position of Attorney General of the State of Arkansas. Then two short years later, he ran for Governor. He won the office and was quickly defeated in his re-election effort. He took two years off and won re-election as Governor. He served in that capacity for 10 years. He then spoke at the Democratic National Convention in 1988 and ran for President in 1992. President Clinton had no foreign policy experience or expertise when he ran for President. In fact, he had served as Governor of a state that ranks at or near the bottom in every positive category and at or near the top of every negative category. President Reagan was the Governor of California for 8 years and had no foreign policy experience. Yet, President Reagan was the architect of the end of the Cold War and arguably the liberator of Eastern Europe because of his policy of bankrupting the evil empire into extinction. President Reagan had several summits with the various Soviet leaders and signed the most remarkable treaty in the history of modern warfare - the INF treaty. President Carter was a farmer and former Commissioned officer in the Navy. He was elected to the Georgia State Senate and ran for Governor and lost. He was elected Governor of Georgia in 1970 after having served for four years in the legislature. He served as Governor of Georgia and then was elected president (also without any foreign policy experience). Regardless of any other criticisms of President Carter, he was moderately effective in negotiating treaties between Egypt and Isreal - known as the Camp David Accord. Presidents Bush (41) and Nixon had well developed foreign policy resumes when they were elected President. President Bush had served as Ambassador to China and of course, President Nixon had served as Vice-President under Eisenhower and had been heavily involved in the foreign policy of the 1950's. President Truman was a Senator from Missouri for 10 years prior to becoming Vice-President. President Roosevelt was the Governor of New York for 2 years. I do not want to belabor the point that very few of our presidents have had significant foreign policy experience. But, it is worth noting that Governor Palin has as much foreign policy experience as Presidents Clinton, Carter, Reagan, and possibly as much as FDR. If she has as much foreign policy experience as many former Presidents, how does she compare to Barack Obama. When did Obama gain his foreign policy experience? At Harvard Law School? Or back in the south side of Chicago as a community organizer? Or as a Illinois State legislator? Perhaps it was during that trip overseas this year after he had served 6 months as a Senator before launching his campaign for President. I am going on vacation out of the country this week. Perhaps, I will have as much foreign policy experience as Senator Obama. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers
But like airplanes, one shouldn't make fun of another's cotton picker. ; - Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers Hendrik -- Printed out the combine link and showed to the wife (she is a farm girl). She burst out laughing and said, That is what we use to pick up leaves on the lawn. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/fieldday/kids/equipment/equipment.htm On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://jddealer.deere.com/DeereFiles/RegionNA/LargeImages/Combines/Comb-Cott onPickers9976-LI12361.jpg Hendrik living in a land where people use old refrigerators as letterboxes -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?
Ok Don wrote: No - Peter is describing a LOT (most?) of our politicians, you can clearly see this from listening to her and reading her record. Come on, Don. You don't know much about Governor Palin. The only things you know about her are what the media has told you. I am in the same position. I don't really know much about her. The problem is you listen to what you have been told and form a negative opinion based on very little information. I have done the same thing. I just know that if she was such a terrible choice, the media would not have to send an army of lawyers to Alaska to dig up dirt on her. Where is the microscopic focus on details of Biden's life? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wonko's Winter Gasser
On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Wonko wrote: The purpose of having the gasser is to drive it in the winter. Wimp! :-) I drive my SD year round. Without a block heater. In Iowa. With 310k miles on it. It has failed to start exactly twice--once parked outside in Wisconsin at 20 below, and once parked outside in Northeastern Maine at similar temps. In the first case, the problem was fuel gelling; in the second, tight valves. I understand ULSD gels at a higher temp than the old formulation diesel, so I run anti-gel during the real cold weather now, and get a valve adjustment late every fall. With those precautions, and that fancy garage of yours, I'd think you'd be all set. On the other hand, I regularly drive multi-thousand mile trips in mine, which keeps the carbon at bay. Once ran a can of diesel purge through it, and it ran just as fine and clean as if it were burning diesel. Have decided I don't need to do that again. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO
It's Monday, what's the price? Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It was 3.28 when I left tulsa friday. Who know what it will be when I return monday. Christopher McCann wrote: Two friends called me today. One to report that he spotted diesel for $2.92 and another to report $3.34. Meanwhile, the station 1 block away is $3.64, which is still down from last week. Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status
If an organization that has a tax exempt status endorses a political candidate those who give money to that organization cannot receive a tax credit for those contributions. I am pretty sure it also puts the organization's tax exempt status at risk. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status Aren't organizations that receive tax free status obligated to refrain from supporting one political group or another, or even making political statements? I don't think so. But ones that are tax-funded must be. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Who's in Oregon?
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Kevin or any other Oregon lister want a great set of $1000 speakers for $100? If these things were about 1500 miles closer to me... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260301139557 Ah, the Time Windows. I wanted a set, but they were too much for me at the time. I ended up with a set of their lesser Time Frames, which I still use. I thought them superior to anything else available in the local stores in that price range, at the time. I am most likely going to buy those, but won't be able to pick them up for a week or two. The stuff I read about them online has me really intrigued. I have to know what all the fuss is about! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?
Gary H. wrote: states are sovereign entities here that enter into a voluntary union with other states. the traditional understanding is that these states can leave the union just as they entered it. You can't be more wrong. What you have stated is true of The Articles of Confederation BUT not of the Constitution. Once the states ratified the Constitution, the article of confederation were gone and we were no longer thirteen sovereign entities -- we were a federated republic. The legislatures of 9 of the 13 colonies had to ratify the constitution (it was called a super-majority). States still retain some sovereign immunity BUT not much and it is still subject to the federal enumerated powers. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?
she is stupid though. didnt she have trouble academically at community college? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott R. wrote: Why is Sarah less qualified than other governor candidates, say Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter? Categorically, I would think someone with executive experience would be more qualified to be president than someone who only has experience as a member of a committee. Good question Scott. Here is a letter to the editor of our local that was published a few weeks ago that asks some of the same questions. (I think the author this letter must be a genius). Dear Editor, I am writing to you after having read the editorial by Davis Merrritt. His editorial is distorted, lacking in intellectual honesty, and ignorant of history. Mr. Merritt criticizes Governor Sarah Palin because she lacks foreign policy experience. In fact, after hearing the Charlie Gibson interview, Mr. Merritt concluded that the choice of Governor Palin was reckless and cynical. I think, despite Mr. Merritt's former role as Editor of the Wichita Eagle, that he has failed to pay attention to last 50 years of presidential elections. No sitting senator since Kennedy has been elected President. Now, presumably Mr. Merritt believes that Senators gain foreign policy experience while serving on various committees and making campaign trips to foreign lands. For the sake of argument, let's ignore the fact that Governor Palin is the candidate for Vice President and compare her credentials to previous candidates for President. Let's begin with President Clinton. Bill Clinton graduated from Law School in 1973 and returned to Arkansas as a College Professor. A year later, he ran for Congress and was defeated. Then he ran for and won (without opposition) the position of Attorney General of the State of Arkansas. Then two short years later, he ran for Governor. He won the office and was quickly defeated in his re-election effort. He took two years off and won re-election as Governor. He served in that capacity for 10 years. He then spoke at the Democratic National Convention in 1988 and ran for President in 1992. President Clinton had no foreign policy experience or expertise when he ran for President. In fact, he had served as Governor of a state that ranks at or near the bottom in every positive category and at or near the top of every negative category. President Reagan was the Governor of California for 8 years and had no foreign policy experience. Yet, President Reagan was the architect of the end of the Cold War and arguably the liberator of Eastern Europe because of his policy of bankrupting the evil empire into extinction. President Reagan had several summits with the various Soviet leaders and signed the most remarkable treaty in the history of modern warfare - the INF treaty. President Carter was a farmer and former Commissioned officer in the Navy. He was elected to the Georgia State Senate and ran for Governor and lost. He was elected Governor of Georgia in 1970 after having served for four years in the legislature. He served as Governor of Georgia and then was elected president (also without any foreign policy experience). Regardless of any other criticisms of President Carter, he was moderately effective in negotiating treaties between Egypt and Isreal - known as the Camp David Accord. Presidents Bush (41) and Nixon had well developed foreign policy resumes when they were elected President. President Bush had served as Ambassador to China and of course, President Nixon had served as Vice-President under Eisenhower and had been heavily involved in the foreign policy of the 1950's. President Truman was a Senator from Missouri for 10 years prior to becoming Vice-President. President Roosevelt was the Governor of New York for 2 years. I do not want to belabor the point that very few of our presidents have had significant foreign policy experience. But, it is worth noting that Governor Palin has as much foreign policy experience as Presidents Clinton, Carter, Reagan, and possibly as much as FDR. If she has as much foreign policy experience as many former Presidents, how does she compare to Barack Obama. When did Obama gain his foreign policy experience? At Harvard Law School? Or back in the south side of Chicago as a community organizer? Or as a Illinois State legislator? Perhaps it was during that trip overseas this year after he had served 6 months as a Senator before launching his campaign for President. I am going on vacation out of the country this week. Perhaps, I will have as much foreign policy experience as Senator Obama. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?
the constitution prohibits cessation from a voluntary union? where? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary H. wrote: states are sovereign entities here that enter into a voluntary union with other states. the traditional understanding is that these states can leave the union just as they entered it. You can't be more wrong. What you have stated is true of The Articles of Confederation BUT not of the Constitution. Once the states ratified the Constitution, the article of confederation were gone and we were no longer thirteen sovereign entities -- we were a federated republic. The legislatures of 9 of the 13 colonies had to ratify the constitution (it was called a super-majority). States still retain some sovereign immunity BUT not much and it is still subject to the federal enumerated powers. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Where is the microscopic focus on details of Biden's life? Biden has been in the Senate for decades, he's well known to the media, while most of the media probably could not have named the Governor of Alaska prior to this fall. That is at least part of it, but I think your point is still valid. When I heard that Obama had picked the disgraced plagiarizer Biden I laughed out loud. I mean come on, what a recycled multi-time loser he has been with his own presidential aspirations. He has been rejected time and again in his own parties primary process. But, no matter, Obama likes him so no questions need be asked. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB wiper blade inserts?
Does anyone have some expertise on replacing the rubber insert? I did one on my SDL this weekend and am worried that it may not be put together properly. The two metal stiffener strips have a notch at each end and I could not see why, or whether they go towards the rubber or not. Anyone? Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics
LT Don wrote: Freshly washed and waxed. *TurtleWax Color Back* really works well for cleaning and polishing previously-neglected paint. http://don1.homelinux.net/~don/300E-1/ Nice looking car, Don. Want to trade for a nice Volvo with really nice paint. It gets 27 mpg and it's a Volvo - so it would help you look like a Liberal. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics
Kaleb wrote: i got screwed Wait just a second. Is this the old Kaleb 300E? WOW! You really cleaned it up. I guess I should have bought it when I had the chance. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen?
Loren wrote: TR, Winston Churchill and Patton were all great leaders and knew how to get things done. Loren, I am starting to think you are the smartest one on the list. Of course, I measure that based on who agrees with me, so I am biased. Patton was the greatest American General of Modern times and was one of the most fascinating, too. TR was the second best president of the 20th Century. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics
You are correct. You should have. What year/model Volvo do you have? The 740? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait just a second. Is this the old Kaleb 300E? WOW! You really cleaned it up. I guess I should have bought it when I had the chance. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement
Perhaps you should send us the bounceback with full headers. -Rolf Luther wrote: Negative, Ghost Rider. Luther Gary Hurst wrote: you are downloading porn at church?? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The emails are being rejected by my email server, not my ISP. This happens on webmail at work, my phone (Blackjack2), and my laptop at home OR at church. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (278,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (181 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rejected by what server? I have been playing with this link ( *http://tinyurl.com/5szzc4 *or *http://preview.tinyurl.com/5szzc4 *) from thebulletin *dot* us for most of the last 24 hours. If I simply try send just the www thebulletin us (with '.' added in correctly) as an address to be clicked on or copied/pasted into a web browser, my email is rejected by the server EVERY time. I've replied and sent other hyperlinks and none of them have been rejected. This is really getting under my skin and I'm going to do something about it. I will contact the email hosting company tomorrow and I would like everyone's thoughts on this before I call. Thanks, Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics
Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: i got screwed Wait just a second. Is this the old Kaleb 300E? I think it's the cheap 300E with the dented fender. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Mitch Haley wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU Should have given this link to a longer clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status
Bill R. wrote: If an organization that has a tax exempt status endorses a political candidate those who give money to that organization cannot receive a tax credit for those contributions. I am pretty sure it also puts the organization's tax exempt status at risk. That is up in the air right now. It is not 'black letter law. The pastors who endorsed candidates are testing this very issue. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics
Lt Don wrote: You are correct. You should have. What year/model Volvo do you have? The 740? No, it is a 1990 Volvo 240 DL. I bought it from the original owner. She gave me the service records for the last ten years and the local Volvo dealership had the records going back to when it was new. She was a 75 year old retired lady. She sold it because she had a hard time bending over to sit in it. So, she bought a mini-van which sits up higher and she can slide in and out of it. It is a really nice car. But, I have decided it is just too small for me. When I bought it, the overdrive didn't work and the rear brake lights were out. I replaced the overdrive relay and it works great now. I drove it about 800 miles (on a round trip from Wichita to Springfield, M0) a few weeks ago and it ran great. I replaced the brake lights (with all new complete assemblies with the revised printed circuit board). It has great paint and the interior is VERY clean. I will probably put it up for sale in the next few weeks. So, I can send pictures then. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US
Gary wrote: she is stupid though. didnt she have trouble academically at community college? I haven't seen anything to that effect. I also haven't seen Obama's grades because he has refused to release them. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10382124 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: she is stupid though. didnt she have trouble academically at community college? I haven't seen anything to that effect. I also haven't seen Obama's grades because he has refused to release them. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US
Gary Hurst wrote: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10382124 I see that she moved around a lot, but nothing about her grades or class rank. I attended four colleges before earning my Bachelor's, (one of them while I was still in high school), the timeline is messier than Palin's, but if you look at my degree, you will see the phrase magna cum laude. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US
or she is stupid, which is the appearance she gives me every time i hear her speak. it ain't quite harvard. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10382124 I see that she moved around a lot, but nothing about her grades or class rank. I attended four colleges before earning my Bachelor's, (one of them while I was still in high school), the timeline is messier than Palin's, but if you look at my degree, you will see the phrase magna cum laude. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tax Free Status
i recall there being a certain ironic incident in the past where dubya sicked the irs on some mainstream pastors who were against his wars of terror, given that without the pastors, he'd never have become president. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R. wrote: If an organization that has a tax exempt status endorses a political candidate those who give money to that organization cannot receive a tax credit for those contributions. I am pretty sure it also puts the organization's tax exempt status at risk. That is up in the air right now. It is not 'black letter law. The pastors who endorsed candidates are testing this very issue. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US
Gary Hurst wrote: or she is stupid, which is the appearance she gives me every time i hear her speak. That's the impression I get when I hear that Biden graduated 76th out of a class of 85 the last time he went to college. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB wiper blade inserts?
The stainless strips should have notches inward toward the rubber with little raised places in the rubber in them to keep them from being slung outward by centrifgal force. One of the little C clamps built into the holder assembly should fit into a groove/slot near one end of the rubber for the same reason - to counteract centrifugal force. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] MB wiper blade inserts? Does anyone have some expertise on replacing the rubber insert? I did one on my SDL this weekend and am worried that it may not be put together properly. The two metal stiffener strips have a notch at each end and I could not see why, or whether they go towards the rubber or not. Anyone? Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics
you are just stupid and people take advantage of that On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: yea, I get screwed all the time. Luther wrote: So, by my count, you've been screwed by OK Don (the 300D 2.5), Lt Don (300E), and myself (SDL). I could name a few that you (or someone you know) has screwed Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: i got screwed Wonko the Sane wrote: Freshly washed and waxed. *TurtleWax Color Back* really works well for cleaning and polishing previously-neglected paint. http://don1.homelinux.net/~don/300E-1/http://don1.homelinux.net/%7Edon/300E-1/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 6:01 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gov. Palin was: Re: OT: Is Barack Obama a US
biden has not declared a desire to attack russia yet. obama is not 300 years old. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: or she is stupid, which is the appearance she gives me every time i hear her speak. That's the impression I get when I hear that Biden graduated 76th out of a class of 85 the last time he went to college. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO
3.26 It's Monday, what's the price? Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It was 3.28 when I left tulsa friday. Who know what it will be when I return monday. Christopher McCann wrote: Two friends called me today. One to report that he spotted diesel for $2.92 and another to report $3.34. Meanwhile, the station 1 block away is $3.64, which is still down from last week. Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO
Gas buddy lists diesel in Atlanta at 2.9x not to far from my house. -Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.26 It's Monday, what's the price? Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It was 3.28 when I left tulsa friday. Who know what it will be when I return monday. Christopher McCann wrote: Two friends called me today. One to report that he spotted diesel for $2.92 and another to report $3.34. Meanwhile, the station 1 block away is $3.64, which is still down from last week. Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new 300E pics
yea, you should have. It was a really nice car. Kaleb wrote: i got screwed Wait just a second. Is this the old Kaleb 300E? WOW! You really cleaned it up. I guess I should have bought it when I had the chance. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Wilton Strickland wrote: Wrong! It's true, listen to it on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg What was even funnier was the one guy they found who supported McCain. He said he was for McCain because he wants to get us out of Iraq. They asked that voter how he felt about Biden being selected as McCain's running mate and he was all for it. To me it was even funnier than listening to Obama voters speaking in support of Obama's choice of Palin, or Obama's intent to stay the course in Iraq, or Obama's pro life views on abortion and opposition to stem cell research. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Question
Phillip, simple solution for you: don't roll stop signs. ;-) seriously; modern ceramics aren't the problem you seem to think they are (even if you *do* run stops). and yes, we often run for hundreds of miles at a time; due to the zero-clearance design of disc brakes, pads are always warm enough that there's never a problem with them. (read; there's no change in performance, unless you consider the fact that they don't fade away under extended mountain descents a change in performance; that's a change i personally welcome!) even when the pads are stone-cold in snow country, they're not the evil you seem to think they are; it's not like they're made of ice and don't work at all, it's only a tiny bit more pedal pressure that's required at the beginning of that first stop. if you were to have to romp on them hard, they'd warm up plenty quick enough. if you were to actually try them, you'd find that in practical usage, you're not likely to even notice the warmup with modern ceramic street pads,.. and unless perhaps you're running old-school racing ceramics without braking for hours on end in temps far below 0*F, you're not likely to see any change in performance in use. check around; auto mfrs that are spec'ing out ceramic pads as OEM these days. while it's not like i believe everything they do is in our best interests, i don't believe they'd be spec'ing out anything they thought might leave themselves open to liability. cheers! e Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:38:28 -0700, ernest wrote: succinct, perhaps, but questionable... it's not likely that anyones first stop of the day is going to be when doing 70 in traffic, I do - if I roll through the stop sign 0.1 miles from the end of my driveway. 25 miles to the interstate with intersection at the top of the hill. Shift down to 3rd to turn onto the onramp. 120 miles later is the big city. and due to the zero-clearance design of disc brakes, once pads are over their initial warmup it would take many dozens of miles in temps too cold to be safely running 70 for them to cool down enough to be an issue. Does that mean you don't ever drive 300 miles on an Interstate highway without stopping? I do. And I _don't_ want brakes that change performance significantly with temperature while driving on public roads. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] Colin Powell is entitled to his opinion of course, but I do not see how Obama passes the qualified test any better than Palin does. Seems a weak argument to me. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid
hi Curt! not sure which trans is in that rig, but if it's one of the ChryCo trannys, they don't necessarily have the best reputation for longevity, and you may be at the end of its natural life. that said, i've had symptoms like what you describe in one of our vehicles, and in 2 cases it's been found to be issues with sensors; one was the Vehicle Speed Sensor in the trans itself, and the other was the Throttle Position Sensor. changing those out may be cheap enough to try that i'd try that before i'd commit to chancing using any additives in it. (i'd also try putting some better ATF like M1 or RedLine in it before i tried any additives,...) cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Well back around Christmas Angie had to drive home (about 10 miles) in first gear as the trans wouldn't shift up at all. I drained some out and put in the Lucas, I figured I had nothing to lose at that point. I ran it around the neighborhood some (still in first) and put it to bed. On Christmas eve (the following day) I ran it around some more and found that if I manually shifted into neutral it would then shift up although sometimes there was a delay. After more driving (my 190D was getting a new starter) it would shift up and down and hardly ever need the neutral trick. I had the fluid and filter changed with Mobil 1 and it got even better. Now its been oh maybe 15,000 miles and its back. Remember this is a Dodge Dakota v8 with 220,000 miles on the original trans (well, probably original, I bought it with 58,000) and its been worked hard. I *think* its a sticky valve, the Lucas appears to be ATF with extra detergents and some thickener. I only used about half the bottle (the bottle is a quart) last time. Figure I'll do the same now, again I've got nothing to lose. I am NOT planning on rebuilding the trans in this truck, that'd be dumb, its got 220,000 miles, it needs a heatercore, radiator, exhaust, and has some pretty nasty rust plus some of the paint has failed so rust there is just a matter of time. The bumper for instance is just chrome plating foil at this point, theres very little metal left. Oh I forgot the transfer case which is also pretty much shot... Its been a great truck but its at the end of its useful life. -Curt --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 9:33 PM DO NOT use the Lucas. My '82 300CD's previous owner did that because they (and it was confirmed by the MB stealership) thought that the trans was in need of a rebuild. The trans would slip out of first and second gears from a stop at anything more than light-moderate throttle. Once it was rolling about 10-15mph, it would take a full throttle run without any problems. The first thing I did was change the fluid and filter. I used Mobil 1 ATF and have NEVER regretted the choice. Less than 1,000mi after the change I noticed that I could use heavy throttle, and soon thereafter I could hit full throttle from a stop. This coupe will bark the tires on the 1-2 shift! The trans still works like it should over 20,000 mi later. Luther Curt Raymond wrote: Just returned from our second yearly week at camp. Dad and I own 85 acres in northern Maine with a little 1 room camp on it. Twice a year my folks and my wife and I manage to not kill each other living in one room for a week. This trip was the first with the new dog and he worked out just fine. Gas in northern Maine is usually $.10-.20 more expensive than in the Portland area but interestingly over the course of the week prices fell so much that by the time we left the price of gas was lower than when we left Portland... At one stop on the way up gas fell $0.10 during lunch. Returning home I see diesel fell $0.30 while we were away. I was going to refuel the 190D before we left, now I'm glad I didn't... Anyway my Dodge is definately on the way out, the trans is playing the sticky valve game again where it won't upshift. Did it a couple times on the way up, a couple times while we were there and now seems to have stopped. I definately smelled trans fluid a couple times too. I'm going to put some of the Lucas additive in again and start looking harder for a new truck. There seems to be a large crop of full size pickups from 2002ish on sale in the $5000 range which should fit the bill fine. Angie will be driving a car from now on so the pickup will be the trash/snowmobile (sometimes they're the same thing)/firewood/scrap haulin mostly weekend mobile and definately doesn't need to be new. Wish I could justify a diesel but no way... -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
My comment was about Colin Powell's qualifications to make such a judgment. It does seem to me that given his background he has some credibility there. For those of us whose minds have been made up it won't make any difference. I don't think any Republicans will vote for Obama or Democrats go from McCain to Obama based on his endorsement. Independents might be a different story, but at this point I tend to question anyone who has not been able to make up their mind [though I suspect this is more a 'feeling' thing than an intellectual exercise.] That is one reason I quit watching debate coverage on CNN and went to BBC America - that dumb line showing how some few persuadable folks felt during the debates. I thought it silly and misleading even though I tended to agree with it. Obviously a significant chunk of the country does not. Look at this list and all the electrons that have been used to service one side or the other. I seriously doubt if anyone has changed sides on the campaign or even individual issues from any of it, though it occasionally helps me to articulate my position on something better. I was glad to hear Colin Powell state some of the same things I had been thinking, but then it wasn't a game changer for me any more than for any of us. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] Colin Powell is entitled to his opinion of course, but I do not see how Obama passes the qualified test any better than Palin does. Seems a weak argument to me. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Bill R wrote: My comment was about Colin Powell's qualifications to make such a judgment. It does seem to me that given his background he has some credibility there. He has a strong background in Sarah Palin studies? Otherwise, I don't see how he's in a better position to judge her than any of the rest of us who hadn't heard of her until a couple of months ago. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
she's a moron, mitch. listen to her speak. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R wrote: My comment was about Colin Powell's qualifications to make such a judgment. It does seem to me that given his background he has some credibility there. He has a strong background in Sarah Palin studies? Otherwise, I don't see how he's in a better position to judge her than any of the rest of us who hadn't heard of her until a couple of months ago. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Same here. 'Showed his recklessness. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
You don't vote. What is all this crap. No vote, no say. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
desperation more than anything. they figured if blacks would vote for obama because he is black then women would vote for palin. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Same here. 'Showed his recklessness. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
i'm voting for obama On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't vote. What is all this crap. No vote, no say. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Question
Upgrade your brakes :) -Rolf ernest breakfield wrote: unless you consider the fact that they don't fade away under extended mountain descents a change in performance; that's a change i personally welcome!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
are you even registered? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies i'm voting for obama On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't vote. What is all this crap. No vote, no say. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
yes. you can go to the obama website and find out if you are, in case you are unsure. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you even registered? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies i'm voting for obama On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't vote. What is all this crap. No vote, no say. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More trans fluid etc
Honda recommends their own brand of fluid. Anyone have opinions on whether that is necessary or advisable? What is special about it? Also with anti-freeze. I think the new ones run the dex-cool type stuff. I note that the Zerex that folks on here recommend for MB is not approved for Honda based upon the info on the bottle. Should be fine shouldn't it? My Wife has acquired a 2007 Accord that came out of Florida and as such has no block heater. Here in the GWN that is not really optional so I have to get one and put it in (or have someone else do it). That means some fluid loss apparently and as such I need to know what to put back in. The car has 26K miles on it so not desperate but I could flush and change it all out to Zerex since I have been accumulating bottles of it and had intended to change the coolant in the poor Toyota Avalon the got wrecked. Off topic a bit but I do refer to MB once! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
When did you register? When is the last election you voted in? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies yes. you can go to the obama website and find out if you are, in case you are unsure. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you even registered? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies i'm voting for obama On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't vote. What is all this crap. No vote, no say. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
i don't know. 1980s, i guess. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did you register? When is the last election you voted in? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies yes. you can go to the obama website and find out if you are, in case you are unsure. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you even registered? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies i'm voting for obama On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't vote. What is all this crap. No vote, no say. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid
Ernest wrote: hi Curt! not sure which trans is in that rig, but if it's one of the ChryCo trannys, they don't necessarily have the best reputation for longevity, and you may be at the end of its natural life. Well CRAP, Curt. I remember you sending out the email about your Dakota and the transmission problem and COMPLETLEY forgot about one of the reasons you may be having problems. This is probably one of the Chrysler trannys that needs the special Dodge/Chrsyler fluid. I did a transmission service on my wife's old Lebaron and it started acting strange. It wouldn't shift or it would shift too fast, or it had no reverse. So, I called a friend of mine at the Chrysler dealer and he told me it was the fluid. You might need to buy the fluid direct from the dealer. I think your transmission requires Chrysler specific fluid. I know it fixed ALL of the problems in the Lebaron. Good Luck. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Gary wrote: she's a moron, mitch. listen to her speak. I made the same judgment about you after reading some of your posts. I am sure I am wrong about you, and so are you about her. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Global Cooling
Maybe I should start selling my own kind of carbon offsets. If you pay me enough, I'll promise to burn something and release CO2 into the air. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=32983361 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid
Donald Snook wrote: You might need to buy the fluid direct from the dealer. You can buy ATF+3 and/or ATF+4 at Wal-Mart. Just don't go looking for G-05 antifreeze at any Wal-Mart near me. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
NO, you were right about him. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Gary wrote: she's a moron, mitch. listen to her speak. I made the same judgment about you after reading some of your posts. I am sure I am wrong about you, and so are you about her. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
i'm not asking to be understudy for an old old man to be president On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO, you were right about him. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Gary wrote: she's a moron, mitch. listen to her speak. I made the same judgment about you after reading some of your posts. I am sure I am wrong about you, and so are you about her. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] DOH. Joe the Plumber related to Keating 5.
Things that make you say, DOH! http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOH. Joe the Plumber related to Keating 5.
Rolf wrote: Things that make you say, DOH! As I said before, when you attempt to discredit Joe the Plumber, you are only discrediting yourself by acting like you're stupid enough to think he means anything. Let us assume that Joe will someday be beatified as a saint. Does that make Obama less qualified to rule? Conversely, let's assume that Joe is on his way to prison for raping four month old triplets. Does that make Obama a better candidate? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Question
huh? seems you mis-read and/or misunderstood; i was saying that i find i don't experience fading when using ceramic pads. why would i upgrade from something that works? ;-) cheers! e Rolf wrote: Upgrade your brakes :) -Rolf ernest breakfield wrote: unless you consider the fact that they don't fade away under extended mountain descents a change in performance; that's a change i personally welcome!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOH. Joe the Plumber related to Keating 5.
I didn't even hear the Joe the Plumber speech. Clearly they could have picked a better example. -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: Things that make you say, DOH! As I said before, when you attempt to discredit Joe the Plumber, you are only discrediting yourself by acting like you're stupid enough to think he means anything. Let us assume that Joe will someday be beatified as a saint. Does that make Obama less qualified to rule? Conversely, let's assume that Joe is on his way to prison for raping four month old triplets. Does that make Obama a better candidate? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Question
So it can work better of course. What car? -Rolf ernest breakfield wrote: huh? seems you mis-read and/or misunderstood; i was saying that i find i don't experience fading when using ceramic pads. why would i upgrade from something that works? ;-) cheers! e Rolf wrote: Upgrade your brakes :) -Rolf ernest breakfield wrote: unless you consider the fact that they don't fade away under extended mountain descents a change in performance; that's a change i personally welcome!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question
boneyard if you're looking real cheap. Rusty if you want new, yet inexpensive. you'll regret using mcparts for anything other than dire emergency. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 02:53:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. All of the McParts stores bet a pad that is way too big for this car. How can i get a set of pads that will fit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question
i'd try www.buymbparts.com On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. All of the McParts stores bet a pad that is way too big for this car. How can i get a set of pads that will fit? thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question
I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. All of the McParts stores bet a pad that is way too big for this car. How can i get a set of pads that will fit? thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question
new pads are so inexpensive on that car. i'd guess you can get decent front and rear pads in the 50 to 60 dollar range. 73 still has the old steering wheel right? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: boneyard if you're looking real cheap. Rusty if you want new, yet inexpensive. you'll regret using mcparts for anything other than dire emergency. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 02:53:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. All of the McParts stores bet a pad that is way too big for this car. How can i get a set of pads that will fit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Pad Question
Rolf, thanks, mate, but while we might be able to make things Better, things are already well into the realm of Good Enough. no need to solve a problem that doesn't exist. ;-) cheers! e Rolf wrote: So it can work better of course. What car? -Rolf ernest breakfield wrote: huh? seems you mis-read and/or misunderstood; i was saying that i find i don't experience fading when using ceramic pads. why would i upgrade from something that works? ;-) cheers! e Rolf wrote: Upgrade your brakes :) -Rolf ernest breakfield wrote: unless you consider the fact that they don't fade away under extended mountain descents a change in performance; that's a change i personally welcome!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Yep. Short-sighted political stunt. Lost Colin and me. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies desperation more than anything. they figured if blacks would vote for obama because he is black then women would vote for palin. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Same here. 'Showed his recklessness. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies palin is hte main reason i could not consider voting for mccain. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Colin Powell mentioned her selection and his belief that she is not qualified as one of the reasons he is backing Obama, I am wondering what the plan is to discredit his thinking and credentials. Colin Powell seems to have a pretty solid background for his position [all except that being a Republican thing. I have to question anyone who claims that. ;D ] BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Wrong! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Obama voters support Sarah Palin as VP if you tell them that she's Obama's running mate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question
Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 $28.01 for the cheapest ones I have. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. All of the McParts stores bet a pad that is way too big for this car. How can i get a set of pads that will fit? thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. http://tinyurl.com/5w3afk I wonder why they list akebono ceramic for the rear and not for the front? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 trip odometer
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No visible resolution after several attempts, but car is parked in the garage. (Just finished putting on a second coat of polish.) I will try it on the way to work tomorrow. Ah, the dreaded Clicking W124 Tripmeter. Like Chinese water torture, isn't it? It is fixable without disassembly in my experience. I don't know what Peter's talking about with letting your finger slip off the button. You have to push the button quickly and release it just as the gear slips, i.e. in time with the clicking. I guess the Okie-style fix like Kaleb said is just to press it a whole bunch of times and eventually you'll hit on the right one. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question
just weird guys, i guess (or maybe something to do with the rears being in stock and the fronts not) i'd just get pagid or textar front and rear if were the buyer here On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. http://tinyurl.com/5w3afk I wonder why they list akebono ceramic for the rear and not for the front? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question - front caliper
Rusty - I am assuming two weeks over 1 year on an install date will not allow your supplier to cover the sticking caliper? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 $28.01 for the cheapest ones I have. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. All of the McParts stores bet a pad that is way too big for this car. How can i get a set of pads that will fit? thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin, now Our Entitlement Culture
Here's a data point. Number 3 child just got a raise at the car dealership where she works in CA. But with her increased income, she is no longer eligible for MediCal and the pay increase is not enough to cover premiums for the group medical plan where she works. IMHO, she NEEDS to continue medical coverage so I am subsidizing her until she gets another raise and is at least even with before. But the math in this case says to turn down the raise or seek some other compensation, like fewer hours. I'm really glad she had MediCal because she really needed it on several occasions. But this kind of setup creates some serious negative incentives for working and it's not good for the US. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:00 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Cc: 'James Samuelson' Subject: [MBZ] Was OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin,now Our Entitlement Culture The issue is not math, the issue is a general lack of willingness to work. They would rather sit in front of the tube with their bud-lite chips than go out get a second job or an education to better themselves. Now, I have no problem with the Earned Income Credit program in principal. Kaleb's family probably qualifies because of the number of children they now have, but Kaleb works! He has a day job he peddles used Mercedes parts on the side! My issue is that, like the family members I mentioned in my example, the plan enables laziness builds an entitlement culture! Both families I mentioned were fully capable of working extra hours making much more than they netted with EIC but they chose not to. And now they have trained their children to do the same thing. In other words, the EIC program has fostered a second generation who would rather suck dollars out of the system than go to work. The issue is one of culture and I'm afraid we are building a even larger entitlement culture with many millions of hands reaching out to the Federal Government for money. This is the exact reason I am not voting for Obama. His entire career has been composed of programs designed to help the poor by stealing from the rich. And I'm sure that to some percentage, his programs have been a great success, but at what cost to our society? Do we need more Government handouts? Do we need to tax the rich give to the poor create an even larger entitlement culture than we have now? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin They don't do math very well, do they -- they'd be far better off working in a better job than keeping the earned income credit. Same with TANF, etc. I place the blame on the parents who didn't value a good education. No, it's not the schools fault - it's the parents. But the damage runs even deeper I have proof. Years ago, two of my Sister in'laws their families refused to improve their financial position by finding better paying jobs for fear of loosing their Earned Incom Credit. When the kids aged out moved on, they lost their Earned Income Credit both families were very bitter about the loss - they believed and still believe that the Government owed it to them. Now the children of both families are having babies are doing the exact same thing! To-date 3 nieces 1 nephew belonging to these two families qualify draw and when I pose the do you want to find a better job question to them, I get the same response I got from their parents! So, who's for weath redistribution in this country? Not Me!!! Tom www.kegkits.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 6:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1734 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 7:25 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement
That's a good idea IF they weren't blocked also Luther Rolf wrote: Perhaps you should send us the bounceback with full headers. -Rolf Luther wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question - front caliper
Did you not see my reply? Give me a call tomorrow, we'll work it out. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question - front caliper Rusty - I am assuming two weeks over 1 year on an install date will not allow your supplier to cover the sticking caliper? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 $28.01 for the cheapest ones I have. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another Brake Pad Question I have a 73 220d that i need a cheapo set of brake pads for. All of the McParts stores bet a pad that is way too big for this car. How can i get a set of pads that will fit? thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers who like JD
I once spend a couple of months operating a JD 1075 combine, made in Germany and ran like crap until we figured out the aftermarket fuel filter was clogged with crap. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff165/agrifoto/008/41.jpg this is not the one, the one I was on had a 24 foot front. BTW that picture I sent is of a cotton picker and not combine harvester, I know the difference. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: Hendrik -- Printed out the combine link and showed to the wife (she is a farm girl). She burst out laughing and said, That is what we use to pick up leaves on the lawn. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/fieldday/kids/equipment/equipment.htm On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://jddealer.deere.com/DeereFiles/RegionNA/LargeImages/Combines/Comb-CottonPickers9976-LI12361.jpg Hendrik living in a land where people use old refrigerators as letterboxes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin, now Our Entitlement Culture
The same goes for my sister in law. She makes to much to qualify her kids for govt insurance, but doesn't make enough to pay the bills and insurance. Similar is for women coming off welfare, its practically impossible and much easier to stay on welfare. Avg mother on welfare cannot make enough income to pay for daycare when she does get back to work. We need to make welfare==workfare and then we can start talking about shrinking the welfare budgets. -Rolf Scott Ritchey wrote: Here's a data point. Number 3 child just got a raise at the car dealership where she works in CA. But with her increased income, she is no longer eligible for MediCal and the pay increase is not enough to cover premiums for the group medical plan where she works. IMHO, she NEEDS to continue medical coverage so I am subsidizing her until she gets another raise and is at least even with before. But the math in this case says to turn down the raise or seek some other compensation, like fewer hours. I'm really glad she had MediCal because she really needed it on several occasions. But this kind of setup creates some serious negative incentives for working and it's not good for the US. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:00 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Cc: 'James Samuelson' Subject: [MBZ] Was OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin,now Our Entitlement Culture The issue is not math, the issue is a general lack of willingness to work. They would rather sit in front of the tube with their bud-lite chips than go out get a second job or an education to better themselves. Now, I have no problem with the Earned Income Credit program in principal. Kaleb's family probably qualifies because of the number of children they now have, but Kaleb works! He has a day job he peddles used Mercedes parts on the side! My issue is that, like the family members I mentioned in my example, the plan enables laziness builds an entitlement culture! Both families I mentioned were fully capable of working extra hours making much more than they netted with EIC but they chose not to. And now they have trained their children to do the same thing. In other words, the EIC program has fostered a second generation who would rather suck dollars out of the system than go to work. The issue is one of culture and I'm afraid we are building a even larger entitlement culture with many millions of hands reaching out to the Federal Government for money. This is the exact reason I am not voting for Obama. His entire career has been composed of programs designed to help the poor by stealing from the rich. And I'm sure that to some percentage, his programs have been a great success, but at what cost to our society? Do we need more Government handouts? Do we need to tax the rich give to the poor create an even larger entitlement culture than we have now? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Barack Obama a US Citizen? - flag pin They don't do math very well, do they -- they'd be far better off working in a better job than keeping the earned income credit. Same with TANF, etc. I place the blame on the parents who didn't value a good education. No, it's not the schools fault - it's the parents. But the damage runs even deeper I have proof. Years ago, two of my Sister in'laws their families refused to improve their financial position by finding better paying jobs for fear of loosing their Earned Incom Credit. When the kids aged out moved on, they lost their Earned Income Credit both families were very bitter about the loss - they believed and still believe that the Government owed it to them. Now the children of both families are having babies are doing the exact same thing! To-date 3 nieces 1 nephew belonging to these two families qualify draw and when I pose the do you want to find a better job question to them, I get the same response I got from their parents! So, who's for weath redistribution in this country? Not Me!!! Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement
Zip it and then email it. Or screen capture. This is your personal email server? -Rolf Luther wrote: That's a good idea IF they weren't blocked also Luther Rolf wrote: Perhaps you should send us the bounceback with full headers. -Rolf Luther wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement
I'm not sure how to do that in Thunderbird... Luther Rolf wrote: Zip it and then email it. Or screen capture. This is your personal email server? -Rolf Luther wrote: That's a good idea IF they weren't blocked also Luther Rolf wrote: Perhaps you should send us the bounceback with full headers. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Hey Donald -- There's something you must learn - wrestling with a pig accomplishes nothing but getting you and the pig extremely muddy - and the pig enjoys it. \ Just assume there are some people who are brain dead and they plan to vote for obama - you can't being their dead brain back to life (LIVE!, LIVE!, IT'S ALIIVE! said Doctor Frankenstein at the monster twitched a finger) even though Gene Wilder did so better than anyone else. There are evidently a lot of people willing to vote for someone who is an avowed socialist, has a very low opinion of the country that has given him so much and who has so little experience that to even consider him for the highest office in the land is absurd. To try to rationalize with people who have decided to vote for him can only be an exercize in frustration Granted, his opponent is a traditional democrat who could probably have better luck if he would run as such - and stand on his record to convince people of his positions -- Have a nice week - Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies Gary wrote: she's a moron, mitch. listen to her speak. I made the same judgment about you after reading some of your posts. I am sure I am wrong about you, and so are you about her. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More trans fluid etc
Also with anti-freeze. I think the new ones run the dex-cool type stuff. I note that the Zerex that folks on here recommend for MB is not approved for Honda based upon the info on the bottle. Should be fine shouldn't it? I can't speak for Honda automobiles, but I own an old Goldwing motorcycle. Honda recommends silicate free antifreeze for it because the silicates in conventional antifreeze wear out the seal. Dex Cool is silicate free. Zerex G-05 is LOW silicate, but not silicate free. That would be my guess as to why it is not approved. Best bet= stick with Honda coolant, even if it is a bit more expensive. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies
Gary wrote: she's a moron, mitch. listen to her speak. I made the same judgment about you after reading some of your posts. I am sure I am wrong about you, and so are you about her. Lol. Good argument Esq. Snook. Perhaps you are practicing for trial lawyer status? :) Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Amtrak
Like this? http://www.hebners.net/amtrak/amtStationB/BensonAZ.jpg Glad to hear Des Moines isn't the only stupid state. My Dad claims the problem is that Amtrak stations are state funded and the states don't see any return on that money or rather they don't feel like they're seeing any return on it... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:45:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] gas prices To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Amtrak does not go to Madison, WI either...you have to go about 45 minutes north to an abandoned station in a little town, the name of which I forget. Anyone ever take Amtrak to Deming, NM? Thoughts on the station? LOL! -Chris __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid
Gee whiz how much more life do you get out of an auto trans in an American vehicle? Cripes I'm tickled to have gotten 220k... 'Sides I've had Lucas in it before and it didn't hurt anything. I'm gonna try it again, maybe in a couple weeks I'll let the thing drain (pull a cooler line) and refill with M1. I'm sure thats not a full drain but the fluid in there is still pretty new. -Curt --- On Mon, 10/20/08, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:31 PM hi Curt! not sure which trans is in that rig, but if it's one of the ChryCo trannys, they don't necessarily have the best reputation for longevity, and you may be at the end of its natural life. that said, i've had symptoms like what you describe in one of our vehicles, and in 2 cases it's been found to be issues with sensors; one was the Vehicle Speed Sensor in the trans itself, and the other was the Throttle Position Sensor. changing those out may be cheap enough to try that i'd try that before i'd commit to chancing using any additives in it. (i'd also try putting some better ATF like M1 or RedLine in it before i tried any additives,...) cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Well back around Christmas Angie had to drive home (about 10 miles) in first gear as the trans wouldn't shift up at all. I drained some out and put in the Lucas, I figured I had nothing to lose at that point. I ran it around the neighborhood some (still in first) and put it to bed. On Christmas eve (the following day) I ran it around some more and found that if I manually shifted into neutral it would then shift up although sometimes there was a delay. After more driving (my 190D was getting a new starter) it would shift up and down and hardly ever need the neutral trick. I had the fluid and filter changed with Mobil 1 and it got even better. Now its been oh maybe 15,000 miles and its back. Remember this is a Dodge Dakota v8 with 220,000 miles on the original trans (well, probably original, I bought it with 58,000) and its been worked hard. I *think* its a sticky valve, the Lucas appears to be ATF with extra detergents and some thickener. I only used about half the bottle (the bottle is a quart) last time. Figure I'll do the same now, again I've got nothing to lose. I am NOT planning on rebuilding the trans in this truck, that'd be dumb, its got 220,000 miles, it needs a heatercore, radiator, exhaust, and has some pretty nasty rust plus some of the paint has failed so rust there is just a matter of time. The bumper for instance is just chrome plating foil at this point, theres very little metal left. Oh I forgot the transfer case which is also pretty much shot... Its been a great truck but its at the end of its useful life. -Curt --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 9:33 PM DO NOT use the Lucas. My '82 300CD's previous owner did that because they (and it was confirmed by the MB stealership) thought that the trans was in need of a rebuild. The trans would slip out of first and second gears from a stop at anything more than light-moderate throttle. Once it was rolling about 10-15mph, it would take a full throttle run without any problems. The first thing I did was change the fluid and filter. I used Mobil 1 ATF and have NEVER regretted the choice. Less than 1,000mi after the change I noticed that I could use heavy throttle, and soon thereafter I could hit full throttle from a stop. This coupe will bark the tires on the 1-2 shift! The trans still works like it should over 20,000 mi later. Luther Curt Raymond wrote: Just returned from our second yearly week at camp. Dad and I own 85 acres in northern Maine with a little 1 room camp on it. Twice a year my folks and my wife and I manage to not kill each other living in one room for a week. This trip was the first with the new dog and he worked out just fine. Gas in northern Maine is usually $.10-.20 more expensive than in the Portland area but interestingly over the course of the week prices fell so much that by the time we left the price of gas was lower than when we left Portland... At one stop on the way up gas fell $0.10 during lunch. Returning home I see diesel fell $0.30 while we were away. I was going to refuel the 190D before we left, now I'm glad I didn't... Anyway my Dodge is definately on the way out, the trans is playing the sticky valve game again where it won't upshift. Did it a couple times on the way up, a couple times while we were there and now seems to have stopped. I definately smelled trans fluid a couple times too. I'm going to put
