Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, i am for real.  my thought now is that for every real case there are
any number of fake cases brought about by government abuse of children.

none of the travesties you describe have anything to do with me or anyone i
know.  i'm sure such things are going on right now and being ignored by dfcs
workers who are more comfortable trying to frame docile people as they are
going to be less trouble than the real crazies.  i think if you make even
the most cursory study of this online, you will see that these people are
about something wholly other than protecting children.

you are like the people who want to take my guns because of the terrible
things criminals do with guns.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:53 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You obviously have never been in the ER with a kid how died an hour
 earlier - bleed to death form the bruising all over his body (1 yr.
 old), or the under 1 yr. old girl with her vagina torn wide open by
 the live-in boy friend, or the kids with electrical burns from
 extension cords all over their arms, legs, and back, arms and legs
 broken by a baseball bat, etc. 
 You are dealing with a very minor incident relative to what that
 worker deals with every day.
 You have no perspective at all.
 Are you real?

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  i'm just shocked by your defense of the state as they are the biggest
  criminals there are and the real abusers.  yet you condone their power.
 
  decent people need to step up and fight the power that destorys.
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
it's funny how they now know so much about how to raise kids and kids are
worse now than ever before.  you think maybe we have been had?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 now days they would throw him in jail.  And that is the problem with
 society today.

 Donald Snook wrote:

 Kaleb wrote: My dad used to tell us stories about when he was in school,
 if you fell asleep at your desk, the teacher would throw a piece of chalk at
 you. That would wake you up.  I think they need to get back to such things
 then kids would pull their head out of their asses, my included.

 Well, Kaleb, I think you and I are about the same age and I don't have to
 go as far back as my father for this same scenario.  My 7th Grade math
 teacher would do this. He would throw chalk. He was a college baseball
 pitcher at Mizzou (Go TIGERS!) and he could really bean someone.  The funny
 thing was, it was a very effective method.  He also would make people stand
 for the whole hour if they were late.  You know what happened? We all paid
 attention and we were never late and I really liked him as a teacher (and I
 hate math).

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Turntable parts - was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Jeff Zedic
Try this place!

http://www.needledoctor.com/


Zedic

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[MBZ] government child protection in action

2008-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/09/21/Baby_dfcs.html
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Re: [MBZ] Turntable parts - was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Jeff Zedic
Personally I have a Dynavector XX1, an Audio Note modified Goldring
1042 and Denon DL103 on my turntable which is a rather modified, by
me, Michell Gyrodec.

I recently got all my vinyl from Canada and am rather swamped in music
now. If y'all want a fun LP, search for the soundtrack from O Brother
Where Art Thou...It's a two lp set and sounds great in analogue!

 I also got the Beatles remixes for the Cirque Du Soleil
show.can't remember what it's called. I thought it would be
awesome but they seem to have digitised it first and pumped up the
bass to ricer boy levels.

Vinyl RULES!!

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Jeff Zedic
Did you shoot in RAW format or JPG?

Zedic

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[MBZ] OT - Music Genome Project

2008-11-15 Thread Michael Esh

While sitting at my computer I enjoy listening a to variety of music. =
www.pandora.com   is a free service that allows me to pick artists or =
styles and it plays the music.  I highly recommend it.  One artist I =
think would do well with this group is Madeleine Peroux.  I would be =
interested in hearing comments. =20
Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Mak
Yes  Shure   still available  and the Audio Technica cartridges . R Shack 
has them too.




I love all my old vinyl.  I need to get a new cartridge though the one I
have is crapola.  Any recommendations?  I'm not an audiophile so I need
something decently good but still affordable.  Does Shure still make
them?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest - ADHD

2008-11-15 Thread Bill R
I think the way the psychiatrist was able to be sure of my diagnosis of ADD
- after a screening interview [and I am most happy I nor my son were ADHD] -
was that I could take up to two or three times the dose of Ritalin with no
change in effect, save the ability to do things like read a newspaper or
focus on a project for more than a few minutes.  He gave me what he thought
was the appropriate dosage and suggested that I try that for a few days,
then try more or less to see the effect.  I tried doses of 'speed' that
would probably have put someone without ADD into a wild trip, and felt no
different with no meds, 1x, 2x, 3x or 4x the prescribed dose.  Not an exact
science there.  A friend who has two ADHD kids says the that when his son
was young he could not get through a meal without climbing on the chair, up
on the table, and down on the floor almost continuously.  That is ADHD, but
I am sure to most people all 10 year old boys seem to have it.
BillR 

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seems the idea today is that all kids are mental and must be drugged into
submission, no?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  i don't know if it is real or not.  i don't know if it is real at
  all.

 Bottom line, you can't rely on a diagnosis from the school.  My son's
 4th grade teacher told him and a group of his friends that they all had
 ADHD.  They were all just normal 10 year old boys in my view.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] E300D Wagon

2008-11-15 Thread Bill R
That is going to be one big coffin, or a much larger than usual urn.
BillR

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I' gonna keep my 1983 300TD forever!




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Re: [MBZ] government child protection in action

2008-11-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Gary Hurst wrote:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/09/21/Baby_dfcs.html


But the father had a drunk driving conviction only ten years ago when he was 22. 
That clearly makes him unfit to keep a child. (/sarcasm)

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Exciting Ferrari news

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas

I like the poster for the Bentley

--R

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Take a look at this website for some exciting Ferrari news.

www.sniffpetrol.com

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Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread Curt Raymond
I'd heard that when I was a kid and didn't understand it at all... Growing up 
in Maine you realize that the road has been there for 300 years or more and 
only follows that path because the surveyor followed a cow to the river...

First time I saw a grid layout city was a class trip to Washington D.C. in 8th 
grade.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:20:41 -0600
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No, but three rights make a left.


  
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[MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to 
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot 
of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next to 
nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but it is 
really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes for the 
car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of other 
processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer turntable (a 
very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer receiver, 
hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of inputs and outputs.


I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are 
turned into bits.


--R

OK Don wrote:

What about shellac? I recently got my father's collection of 78s -
some of which he listened to at his grandparents ---
Need to get a 78 needle and resurrect the turntable.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, andrew strasfogel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

They said the same thing about LPs but look at the renaissance in vinyl now!




  

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Music Genome Project

2008-11-15 Thread Jeff Zedic
I've been listening to her for a few years now. Excellent style and voice.

I also like her  attitude to the whole music scene. Saw an interview with her.

I have all her albums on vinyl.

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] Inside an Airbus A380

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Wifey got to fly first class 4 yr ago on an Emirates flt from Dubai to 
NY or London (can't remember the route), it was quite sumptuous, she had 
a private cabin with immediate personal service from the FA.  She liked it.


--R

LWB250 wrote:

Check it out:

http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/08/flight-report-a.html

Dan




  


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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
How about a USB turntable - no sound card needed  complete with Cakewalk
PYRO software:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UKUDSE
http://www.jr.com/lp-to-pc-recorder/pe/AT_ATLP2DUSB/



Replacement needles for the old stuff isn't a problem. Looks pricy until you
factor in inflation, then they are actually cheaper today than they were
way back then:
http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Replacement-Stylus


Thanks,
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On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT LPs

You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to 
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot 
of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next to 
nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but it is 
really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes for the 
car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of other 
processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer turntable (a 
very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer receiver, 
hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of inputs and outputs.

I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are 
turned into bits.

--R

OK Don wrote:
 What about shellac? I recently got my father's collection of 78s -
 some of which he listened to at his grandparents ---
 Need to get a 78 needle and resurrect the turntable.

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, andrew strasfogel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 They said the same thing about LPs but look at the renaissance in vinyl
now!

 

   
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Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
**Washington, DC** - Congress is considering sweeping legislation 
that will

provide new benefits for many Americans. The Americans With No Abilities
Act (AWNAA) is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of
the millions of Americans who lack any real skills or ambition.

'Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and
drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in
society,' said California Senator Barbara Boxer. 'We can no longer stand
by and allow People of Inability to be ridiculed and passed over. With
this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special
favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea
of what they are doing.'

In a Capitol Hill press conference, House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi
and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid pointed to the success of the U.S.
Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing
opportunity without regard to performance. Approximately 74 percent of
postal employees lack any job skills, making this agency the single
largest U.S. employer of Persons of Inability.

Private-sector industries with good records of non-discrimination
against the Inept include retail sales (72%), the airline industry
(68%), and home improvement 'warehouse' stores (65%). At the state
government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent
record of hiring Persons of Inability (63%).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million 'middle
man' positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but
little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose
and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given so
as to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable
employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to
corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability
into middle-management positions, and gives a tax credit to small and
medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every
two talented hires.

Finally, the AWNAA contains tough new measures to make it more
difficult to discriminate against the Non-abled, banning, for example,
discriminatory interview questions such as, 'Do you have any skills or
experience that relate to this job?'

'As a Non-abled person, I can't be expected to keep up with people who
have something going for them,' said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her
position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint , Michigan , due to
her inability to remember rightey tightey, lefty loosey. 'This new law
should be real good for people like me,' Gertz added.  With the passage
of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will
finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Said Senator Dick Durban (D-IL):  'As a Senator with no abilities, I
believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be
extended to every American with no abilities.  It is our duty as
lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his
or her adequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation
and a good salary for doing so.'
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[MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Dan Weeks

JIm:

I've shot for decades for major national magazines (Traditional Home,  
Country Home, Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, Renovation Style, etc.) and they  
often ran my 35mm provia images at spread size with no complaint. In  
fact, I asked them if they wanted 6x6, as I had the equipment, and  
they said well, you could, but these are just fine.


Dan


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most magazines rarely wanted something as crappy as 35mm images
to begin with.



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[MBZ] Smokin good deal?

2008-11-15 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/919401534.html

'93 300D less than 200k miles, $4900. Seems like thats a great deal.

Seems like I ought to go check it out.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
35mm can shoot great high resolution photos. Shoot ASA400 film with a small
lens and you get the crappy 35mm images mentioned in the previous post.
Shoot with a professional quality lens with plenty of light gathering
ability and everything changes.

All depends on lens quality, film quality and a good understanding of your
media.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: [MBZ] Film Resolution  Publication

JIm:

I've shot for decades for major national magazines (Traditional Home,  
Country Home, Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, Renovation Style, etc.) and they  
often ran my 35mm provia images at spread size with no complaint. In  
fact, I asked them if they wanted 6x6, as I had the equipment, and  
they said well, you could, but these are just fine.

Dan


On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 most magazines rarely wanted something as crappy as 35mm images
 to begin with.


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Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT

I assume the question was for me?  I shot in jpg.
;-)  They  used my images without further comment - no canned images - only 
mine - IIRC 1/2 page was the largest. (Excellent Sept 08).


Actually my next article will probably be more difficult for providing 
images.  I will be referring to software and would like to use screenshots 
but they are  proving difficult to use prt scn - also tried to make a 
image of the menu screen but the popup is what I need and it's kinda 
small.so I need to work on that some.  Tried right click and Copy -


Hopefully I'll be able to work out the bugs  --

Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits 
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
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Did you shoot in RAW format or JPG?

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 109

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT
I'll look at the directions and see if it's possible to change the format - 
Thx - 
Sincerely,

Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
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- Original Message - 
From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 109


Were you shooting raw, .tiff, or .jpg? Raw or tiff is higher  
resolution than .jpg, which is a compressed file.


Dan


On Nov 14, 2008, at 5:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dan -
You can probably help me with your experience shooting for  
magazines  - I
wrote an artcle for Excellence magazine (changeover to EFI) and  
submitted
images done with my Nikon digital at its highest setting - of  
1632x1224
pixels.   After the editor asked for higher resolution I told him I  
shot at
the that resolution - he didn;t respond and used the images I  
provided -

what more could I do?  Isn't that pretty high?

Thx -

Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Standard high quality magazine printing is 150 lines per inch in four  
color -- super high resolution isn't necessary.  However, a decent  
drum scanner IS if you want adequate density range to get good  
reproduction.


Lets see, 150 lpi times 10 inches  is 1500 pixels, and 35mm film is  
just about 1 inch tall and 1.5 inches wide.  Even my cheapo Scan Dual  
can do better than that for resolution, and it's nowhere near the  
limit of the film.


Now, if you want super resolution in the PRINT, use contact printed  
11x14 film.


Peter

On Nov 15, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Dan Weeks wrote:


JIm:

I've shot for decades for major national magazines (Traditional  
Home, Country Home, Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, Renovation Style, etc.)  
and they often ran my 35mm provia images at spread size with no  
complaint. In fact, I asked them if they wanted 6x6, as I had the  
equipment, and they said well, you could, but these are just fine.


Dan


On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


most magazines rarely wanted something as crappy as 35mm images
to begin with.



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Re: [MBZ] Smokin good deal?

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Only if the AC is working -- otherwise it's just a good deal.  They  
get 32-36 mpg on the highway.


Usual W124 caveats apply (in other words, it's due for tie rods, ball  
joints, and drag link plus steering damper, and the rear links will  
be dead soon, too.)


Peter
On Nov 15, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:


http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/919401534.html

'93 300D less than 200k miles, $4900. Seems like thats a great deal.

Seems like I ought to go check it out.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to
 record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot
 of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next
 to nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but
 it is really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes
 for the car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of
 other processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer
 turntable (a very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer
 receiver, hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of
 inputs and outputs.

 I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are
 turned into bits.

I bought a little device called an iMic (Griffin) which connects to the
USB port on my Mac laptop.  It comes with software called Final Vinyl
that seems OK, though you can use Auadacity or whatever with it as well
(I have not tried anything else).  You can connect your turntable
directly to it if you like, but I'm running mine through my receiver
first.

I've digitized a couple of albums and am generally pleased with the
results.  The software's default levels produce a very quiet file so I
tend to boost them so they are similar to what I get from iTunes (but
careful not to push the levels to the point of clipping).

I also still have my old college turntable, which is a DJ-style Technics
(SL1200 MK2) with a Stanton 600 cartridge. At 20 years of age that
turntable still works flawlessly, but I think I could do better on the
cartridge, I don't recall it being very expensive.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Beautiful 140 Coupe

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT
I think I'll buy this and let my son use it for Prom night.  He'll probably 
have the girls all over him begging him to PULEEEZE take them to the prom in 
his new sexy machine!  Shoot!  He might have 2 or 3 dates!


They'll be talking about *him* for years to come!!
;-)

Sincerely,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beautiful 140 Coupe



Mitch Haley wrote:

Wagon:
http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=BMLI3390014


Amazing. Not one person looked at that link and posted a reply just to say 
Ouch! My eyes!


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Allan Streib

Some of the most stunning photos I've seen in magazines are shot on
35mm Kodachrome (what speed is that, about ASA 25?)

With the migration to digital and the exceeding demands of Kodachrome
processing, it's all but gone.  I think I recall reading that there is
only ONE processor in the United States that will still develop it, and
the film itself is no longer produced, there's only old inventory that
people are hoarding in freezers.

Allan


Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 35mm can shoot great high resolution photos. Shoot ASA400 film with a small
 lens and you get the crappy 35mm images mentioned in the previous post.
 Shoot with a professional quality lens with plenty of light gathering
 ability and everything changes.

 All depends on lens quality, film quality and a good understanding of your
 media.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com
 256-656-1924
  

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 On Behalf Of Dan Weeks
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:45 AM
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 Subject: [MBZ] Film Resolution  Publication

 JIm:

 I've shot for decades for major national magazines (Traditional Home,  
 Country Home, Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, Renovation Style, etc.) and they  
 often ran my 35mm provia images at spread size with no complaint. In  
 fact, I asked them if they wanted 6x6, as I had the equipment, and  
 they said well, you could, but these are just fine.

 Dan


 On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 most magazines rarely wanted something as crappy as 35mm images
 to begin with.


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Re: [MBZ] government child protection in action

2008-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
it might be more innocent, like these agents are told that children are in
danger and they must be saved by whatever means necessary.  seems more
likely from what i've read though that it's just a money racket.

either way, it's pretty shocking that no one has cared to put an end to this
rogue activity.  until someone is willing to prosecute them in criminal
court and win lawsuits against them in civil court, nothing will change.
and no one seems to be inclined to fight them in this manner as they are
saving the children as perhaps even most of our listers believe.  after
all, doesn't it follow that if a one year old shows up at the ER beaten to
death that we need to have a rogue agency with unlimited powers make war on
the innocent for fun and profit?



On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst wrote:

 http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/09/21/Baby_dfcs.html


 But the father had a drunk driving conviction only ten years ago when he
 was 22. That clearly makes him unfit to keep a child. (/sarcasm)
 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:

Some of the most stunning photos I've seen in magazines are shot on
35mm Kodachrome (what speed is that, about ASA 25?)

With the migration to digital and the exceeding demands of Kodachrome
processing, it's all but gone.  I think I recall reading that there is
only ONE processor in the United States that will still develop it, and
the film itself is no longer produced, there's only old inventory that
people are hoarding in freezers.


Seems like the Kodachrome slide film used to be ASA 64.

You know what Paul Simon would say about that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujhdf9_IO4w


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Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Allan Streib
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Actually my next article will probably be more difficult for providing
 images.  I will be referring to software and would like to use
 screenshots but they are proving difficult to use prt scn - also
 tried to make a image of the menu screen but the popup is what I need
 and it's kinda small.so I need to work on that some.  Tried right
 click and Copy -

I guy at my work who makes all the user documentation for our software
uses something called IrfanView (I think) for all his screen shots.
Seemed to be easier to get alt-tag text and context menus (right-click
menus) captured than trying to use Windows built-in print-screen.

YMMV.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 112

2008-11-15 Thread tom tomscat



Hi RLE,

Not to put too fine a point on this,  Fred was indeed referring to the 
ugly duckling Daimler Dart SP250.  
Gerry, however, (see below) was referring to the Daimler 250 V8 with the 
NOTAJAG plate that 
he saw in the hardware store parking lot.  Although I did address the email to 
both Fred and Gerry, 
my comment was in reference to THAT car.  Since he stated he was unable to get 
anything on it on Google,
(possibly because he googled Daimler V250 instead of Daimler 250 V8) I gave him 
a link to help him out.

Tom Schuch
1975 W115 300D
SE Connecticut

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 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:07:28 EST
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] SP-250
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  ...Hi Fred and Gerry,
  I believe the car you saw was the Daimler 250 V8, basically a tarted up 
  version of the Jaguar Mark II (fancier fluting on the chrome, etc).?
  That car had the same Hemi V8 that Daimler put in the SP250...
  
 He's talking about the SP250, a two passenger fiberglass sports car with a 
 cloth folding top and fins out back. Not the four-door Jag in drag.
 
 RLE
  ?

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler V250
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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   Daimler SP250 is the car that I most drooled over when I was 
in the UK. The Lady next door had an A.C Cobra and an SP. I thought 
she was too old to drive such cars, she may have been 40, not old 
from my present point of view! I owned a Mini and wanted, lusted 
after, a real sports car. A V8 sexy/slippery looking sports car for me!
Jeeez, I'm getting old!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
 
At 11:43 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote:
Saw a Daimler V250 in perfect condition at hardware store parking 
lot today if anyones interested.  Didn't get a chance to talk to 
owner.  Custom tag read NOTAJAG.  It looked like a Jag from a 
distance.  Didn't pull up anything specific about it on Google.
Gerry**

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Peter Schiff was right.

2008-11-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
I found it particularly interesting how all the other wags had it so wrong.

Scott
-

andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This Schiff guy is the real mccoy.

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rolf wrote:

 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

 Obama needs to pick this guy up for his cabinet.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Peter Schiff was right.

2008-11-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Scott Ritchey wrote:

I found it particularly interesting how all the other wags had it so wrong.


Investment advisers are like realtors.
If they are in the business of selling, NOW is always the best time to buy.
Mitch.


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[MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs

2008-11-15 Thread Max Dillon
John,

Sorry for the late reply, catching up on digest.

My understanding of the problem is that the glowplug design or the head design 
is faulty and allows a ring of carbon to form that is too big to fit out of the 
hole that the glow-plug must.  You need to apply a good penetrating oil that 
will attack and loosen the carbon.  On the plugs which are not broken, work 
them back and forth in small degrees, gently gently gently, let the penetrant 
work, expect to take all day to remove the plugs.  If you can let penetrant 
soak overnight, the better.

I fear that on the broken plug, you will need to remove the head.  You can try 
the penetrant now (it will reach the offending carbon much more easily!) as it 
may help enough to all the easy-out to work.  Super duper industrial strength 
stuff call 'Berryman's chemtool' may be a good choice (Pep Boys supposedly 
carrys it) , but you WILL need to change the engine oil after.

http://www.berrymanproducts.com/




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Very respectfully, 
/s/ 
Max Dillon 
'87 300TD, 310k miles 
Charleston SC 
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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Yeah, the Kodachrome 25 was great stuff (also available in iso 64 and  
for a brief time, 200) -- resolution is greater than 100 lines per mm  
(about 15,000 pixels per inch), but processing was (is) a nightmare.   
Lasts forever, too -- I'm in the slow process of scanning in all my  
mother's photographs, starting in the 1930s, and the Kodachromes from  
the late 40's are in perfect shape for the most part.  Badly  
underexposed ones have faded badly in the shadows for some reason,  
and the film base on the 828 slides is going bad, but the 35mm is  
perfect.


Modern innovations are not always an improvement, I don't think.  Not  
always cheaper, either!


Peter

On Nov 15, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Allan Streib wrote:



Some of the most stunning photos I've seen in magazines are shot on
35mm Kodachrome (what speed is that, about ASA 25?)

With the migration to digital and the exceeding demands of Kodachrome
processing, it's all but gone.  I think I recall reading that there is
only ONE processor in the United States that will still develop it,  
and

the film itself is no longer produced, there's only old inventory that
people are hoarding in freezers.

Allan


Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

35mm can shoot great high resolution photos. Shoot ASA400 film  
with a small
lens and you get the crappy 35mm images mentioned in the  
previous post.

Shoot with a professional quality lens with plenty of light gathering
ability and everything changes.

All depends on lens quality, film quality and a good understanding  
of your

media.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Behalf Of Dan Weeks
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:45 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Film Resolution  Publication

JIm:

I've shot for decades for major national magazines (Traditional Home,
Country Home, Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, Renovation Style, etc.) and they
often ran my 35mm provia images at spread size with no complaint. In
fact, I asked them if they wanted 6x6, as I had the equipment, and
they said well, you could, but these are just fine.

Dan


On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


most magazines rarely wanted something as crappy as 35mm images
to begin with.



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Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT

Thx Allan -
I have  IrfanView - will give it a try;-)   I installed it for somthing 
else - perhaps .flv videos?  Can;t recall now.


But will try it withthe screenshots I need - if I can edit them it will work 
perfectly =


Thx agn -
Sincerely,
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras



LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Actually my next article will probably be more difficult for providing
images.  I will be referring to software and would like to use
screenshots but they are proving difficult to use prt scn - also
tried to make a image of the menu screen but the popup is what I need
and it's kinda small.so I need to work on that some.  Tried right
click and Copy -


I guy at my work who makes all the user documentation for our software
uses something called IrfanView (I think) for all his screen shots.
Seemed to be easier to get alt-tag text and context menus (right-click
menus) captured than trying to use Windows built-in print-screen.

YMMV.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT
Gary wrote it's funny how they now know so much about how to raise kids 
and kids are

worse now than ever before.

The govt doesn't know any better than anyone else - they just have the power 
to put handcuffs on people and drag the parents away.


Tales from the foster system are some of the worst I've ever heard - all the 
things you said went thru the ER could just as easily have been attributed 
to govt placement in foster care - often *paid* care.


Sincerely,
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- Original Message - 
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: your government at its absolute finest


it's funny how they now know so much about how to raise kids and kids 
are

worse now than ever before.  you think maybe we have been had?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:



now days they would throw him in jail.  And that is the problem with
society today.

Donald Snook wrote:

Kaleb wrote: My dad used to tell us stories about when he was in 
school,
if you fell asleep at your desk, the teacher would throw a piece of 
chalk at
you. That would wake you up.  I think they need to get back to such 
things

then kids would pull their head out of their asses, my included.

Well, Kaleb, I think you and I are about the same age and I don't have 
to

go as far back as my father for this same scenario.  My 7th Grade math
teacher would do this. He would throw chalk. He was a college baseball
pitcher at Mizzou (Go TIGERS!) and he could really bean someone.  The 
funny
thing was, it was a very effective method.  He also would make people 
stand
for the whole hour if they were late.  You know what happened? We all 
paid
attention and we were never late and I really liked him as a teacher 
(and I

hate math).

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Major Announcement - was Govt at its Finest

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT

AP 11/14/08
Additional information concerning the AWNAA was made available today during 
a
Press Conference organized by Nancy Pelosi (D) who said, In a complete 
turnaroud,
this bill is being amended to include all member of Congress which is 
normally excluded from legislation such as this.   All member of House and 
Senate will be completely covered by all protections under The Americans 
With No Abilities Act.  This wll be a major piece of legislation that will 
protect those who cannot protect themselves.  I only wish this important 
piece of legislation was brought before us for approval before now.  I hope 
to include another amendment to request Washington DC be renamed to be known 
as 'Pelosi, DC' .
   Thank you - that will conclude this conference  - no, sorry, no 
questions wil be answered as my assistant is not available to provide me 
with appropriate responses.



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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest


**Washington, DC** - Congress is considering sweeping legislation that 
will

provide new benefits for many Americans. The Americans With No Abilities
Act (AWNAA) is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of
the millions of Americans who lack any real skills or ambition.

'Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and
drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in
society,' said California Senator Barbara Boxer. 'We can no longer stand
by and allow People of Inability to be ridiculed and passed over. With
this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special
favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea
of what they are doing.'

In a Capitol Hill press conference, House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi
and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid pointed to the success of the U.S.
Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing
opportunity without regard to performance. Approximately 74 percent of
postal employees lack any job skills, making this agency the single
largest U.S. employer of Persons of Inability.

Private-sector industries with good records of non-discrimination
against the Inept include retail sales (72%), the airline industry
(68%), and home improvement 'warehouse' stores (65%). At the state
government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent
record of hiring Persons of Inability (63%).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million 'middle
man' positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but
little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose
and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given so
as to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable
employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to
corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability
into middle-management positions, and gives a tax credit to small and
medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every
two talented hires.

Finally, the AWNAA contains tough new measures to make it more
difficult to discriminate against the Non-abled, banning, for example,
discriminatory interview questions such as, 'Do you have any skills or
experience that relate to this job?'

'As a Non-abled person, I can't be expected to keep up with people who
have something going for them,' said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her
position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint , Michigan , due to
her inability to remember rightey tightey, lefty loosey. 'This new law
should be real good for people like me,' Gertz added.  With the passage
of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will
finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Said Senator Dick Durban (D-IL):  'As a Senator with no abilities, I
believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be
extended to every American with no abilities.  It is our duty as
lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his
or her adequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation
and a good salary for doing so.'
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Peter Schiff was right.

2008-11-15 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Investment advisers are like realtors.  If they are in the business of
 selling, NOW is always the best time to buy.

That is true -- but in fairness, over the long term history proves it is
better to be in the market than out.  Buying in at the apex of a bubble
is not a good way to start though.

It's easy to look like a genius after the fact, when you turned out to
be right.  I do think that Schiff's predictions were sound, though -- he
correctly identified the underlying danger, and that was not just wall
street greed but also government policies that encouraged irresponsible
lending, and *consumer* greed for possessions that were financed by home
equity and credit card debt, and that the proposed cures that are
being discussed or even implemented already are just facilitating more
of the same.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Peter Schiff was right.

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick

He's not the only one, but at least he gets published.

John Kenneth Galbraith, who just passed away a year or two ago, said  
the same thing, but was assaulted by the economist's community for  
not having a grip on reality.  He's been saying the same thing since  
the 1940's, and wasn't too excited about the Bretton Woods  
conference, either (the assumption of infinite resources bothered him).


We have been living in the greatest price inflation bubble known to  
man, I believe -- fueled not by real money, but by imaginary assets  
(known as derivatives) that in fact have no intrinsic value.  We  
pay far too much for shoddy goods (especially housing) in far greater  
amounts than we could afford even if they were priced properly, and  
have been doing it on imaginary money.


I've been hearing people honk on about deflation and how bad it is,  
completely ignoring the fact that we have what really amounts to a  
correction in prices.  Prices aren't going to fall forever, after  
all, any more than the were going to go up forever.


The other part that no one wants to address is the fact that you  
cannot have an industrial economy without well paying industrial  
jobs.  There is no such thing as a service economy -- the  
alternative is subsistence agriculture, not service because  
services require someone to be generating money income, and that only  
comes from the industrial conversion of raw resources to value added,  
enduring products.  Farm produce only last a year or two, and money  
in a non-industrial economy isn't much use.


Modern economics barely qualifies as a science, and certainly has not  
used scientific methods for theory development.  Number crunching  
isn't science, it's arithmetic.


For those advocating paying global wage scale, I hope they are  
advocating taking the global wage scale themselves -- which, in the  
vast majority of cases, means they wouldn't be paid anything at all  
as their jobs don't exist in the global wage scale -- either they  
own the sweatshop or they work in it for sub-living wage, there is no  
other job!


Peter
On Nov 15, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Scott Ritchey wrote:
I found it particularly interesting how all the other wags had it  
so wrong.


Investment advisers are like realtors.
If they are in the business of selling, NOW is always the best time  
to buy.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Check out a little program called Gadwin Print Screen -- there is a free 
download, works really well.


--R

LarryT wrote:

I assume the question was for me?  I shot in jpg.
;-)  They  used my images without further comment - no canned images - 
only mine - IIRC 1/2 page was the largest. (Excellent Sept 08).


Actually my next article will probably be more difficult for providing 
images.  I will be referring to software and would like to use 
screenshots but they are  proving difficult to use prt scn - also 
tried to make a image of the menu screen but the popup is what I need 
and it's kinda small.so I need to work on that some.  Tried right 
click and Copy -


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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Some things need the phono pre-amp from your receiver to get a good 
signal for the sound-in, though I think now you can buy a USB thingie 
that takes the phono directly off the turntable, maybe that is what your 
device does.  My soundcard is a USB external box with RCA jacks for line 
in/out, an optical in/out, a mic in, phones out. plug, got it somewhere 
for about $20 on a closeout desk, has been working now for 5 yr or so, 
maybe longer.


There are a bunch of various programs and whatnot, audacity is open 
source free, does a lot of cool things.  Those USB turntables are 
intriguing, but since I have a couple of turntables and receivers and 
all the other gizmos, no need for one.


--R

Allan Streib wrote:

Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot
of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next
to nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but
it is really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes
for the car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of
other processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer
turntable (a very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer
receiver, hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of
inputs and outputs.

I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are
turned into bits.



I bought a little device called an iMic (Griffin) which connects to the
USB port on my Mac laptop.  It comes with software called Final Vinyl
that seems OK, though you can use Auadacity or whatever with it as well
(I have not tried anything else).  You can connect your turntable
directly to it if you like, but I'm running mine through my receiver
first.

I've digitized a couple of albums and am generally pleased with the
results.  The software's default levels produce a very quiet file so I
tend to boost them so they are similar to what I get from iTunes (but
careful not to push the levels to the point of clipping).

I also still have my old college turntable, which is a DJ-style Technics
(SL1200 MK2) with a Stanton 600 cartridge. At 20 years of age that
turntable still works flawlessly, but I think I could do better on the
cartridge, I don't recall it being very expensive.

Allan
  

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Re: [MBZ] 2.6/2.8

2008-11-15 Thread Tony Wirtel
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.6/2.8
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 ...It's a M104 2.8L. Hendrik..

 So says the description, but the trunk lid number is 2.6. The 300E 2.6 is an
 M103 153HP stripper 300E whereas the 300E 2.8 is a 194HP M104.

 RLE


Yep-

I've got a '92 300e/2.6, and while I'd have preferred a '93 2.8
service records sold me on my car.

If all other things are equal, get the 2.8 (starts in '93) or better
yet, 94/95 3.2 but be aware of the biodegradable engine wiring
harnesses. The 2.6 is a decent car, but gutless.

Tony Wirtel

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Jim Cathey

Lets see, 150 lpi times 10 inches is 1500 pixels, and 35mm film


Those numbers are not directly comparable.  I studied up
on it at one time, and my wife was in publishing.  We had
long arguments about it until we learned to stop talking
about it altogether.  It is a complicated subject, but the
upshot is that 35mm can be considered adequate, but usually
MF could kick its butt even in what seemed to be lower
resolution conditions.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 112

2008-11-15 Thread Jim Cathey

Custom tag read NOTAJAG.


_Every_ time I see this I read it as NOJTAG.
Wonder what a sickologist would make of that?

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Jim Cathey

Some of the most stunning photos I've seen in magazines are shot on
35mm Kodachrome (what speed is that, about ASA 25?)


K2 was 25 nominally.  You could get it in 64 and 200, and
the photoflood stuff was 40.  (I think K1 was around 12 or so,
which is what your older images would have been.  You could
get K in medium format for awhile, somewhere I have a roll.)

It truly could do an impressive job.  My favorite stuff
was John Shaw's work.  Try as I might, I could never get
anything like what he got.  He used Nikon gear, my Canon
was supposed to be nearly as good, but I think his favorite
105mm macro Nikkor kicked the cookies out of Canon's equivalent.
OTOH, supposedly the two best 300mm lenses ever made were both
Canon's, and I have one of them.  (The cheaper one, at f/4.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
That MicroNikkor is a great lens, but the mid  70's Vivitar Series 1  
90 mm is better, at all aperatures and distances.  Not a cheap lens,  
though!  List was $349 or so in 1978.


Kodachrome was available in 16mm initially (1934, I think), then  
medium format (120), sheet of all sizes, and 35mm (1936 or so).  The  
initial version was not anything like the later ones, is quite rare  
now, and fades horribly.


You can only get really good 35mm images by using a weighted tripod  
with a large, heavy head, and a camera that does not produce  
significant shutter vibration.  Otherwise, camera movement will  
significantly degrade the image.  I found this out while playing with  
some Technical Pan film for pictoral work.  Hard to believe you can  
reproduce such tiny detail if you are VERY careful.  I've got a  
picture of the lake on campus at SIU, and with a grain magnifier you  
can read the labels on the discarded soda cans on the shoreline


I know there are digital cameras with this kind of resolution, but I  
think they are about the size of a bus these days, and fly around in  
orbit spying on us.


Peter

On Nov 15, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Some of the most stunning photos I've seen in magazines are shot on
35mm Kodachrome (what speed is that, about ASA 25?)


K2 was 25 nominally.  You could get it in 64 and 200, and
the photoflood stuff was 40.  (I think K1 was around 12 or so,
which is what your older images would have been.  You could
get K in medium format for awhile, somewhere I have a roll.)

It truly could do an impressive job.  My favorite stuff
was John Shaw's work.  Try as I might, I could never get
anything like what he got.  He used Nikon gear, my Canon
was supposed to be nearly as good, but I think his favorite
105mm macro Nikkor kicked the cookies out of Canon's equivalent.
OTOH, supposedly the two best 300mm lenses ever made were both
Canon's, and I have one of them.  (The cheaper one, at f/4.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] ML rear shocks

2008-11-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont really know much about them really.  I know the early ones had 
problems.  What exactly Im not sure.


OK Don wrote:

Out of curiosity - what is so bad about the MLs? What breaks all the
time? Are they worse than their contemporary brothers and sisters?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Nobody around here owns one of them things.




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Re: [MBZ] Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Fmiser
   On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:15:43 -0800 Jim Cathey
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Silly me, I had AT on the brain.  My last cart was a Grado.

  On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:49 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:
 
  My first one, in 1970, was a Grado FCE. I had the impression
  that it wasn't the best, but it was all I could afford.

 Peter wrote:
 
 The Stantons are really tough and have a replaceable needle,
 and are used by rap artists to back cue vinyl.

But that toughness comes at an expense of accuracy. So if you
plan to scratch, use them. If you want good music, there are
better choices. *smile*

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
WOW, thanks.  Remember back in the old days when you could go to 
Walmart, you showed them your old needle, they had a laminiated mat 
thing that had pictures of all the various needles to compare yours to 
so you would get the right one?  Heck, they even used to sell vacuum 
tubes there and even had a tester.


Rick Knoble wrote:

I need a place online to buy LP supplies.


http://www.garage-a-records.com/

http://www.needledoctor.com/

Rick Knoble


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Re: [MBZ] Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I have a bunch of those.

OK Don wrote:

What about shellac? I recently got my father's collection of 78s -
some of which he listened to at his grandparents ---
Need to get a 78 needle and resurrect the turntable.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, andrew strasfogel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They said the same thing about LPs but look at the renaissance in vinyl now!





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Re: [MBZ] Turntable parts - was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That sound track is on LP?  I didnt know they were even making LP's when 
that movie came out.


Jeff Zedic wrote:

Personally I have a Dynavector XX1, an Audio Note modified Goldring
1042 and Denon DL103 on my turntable which is a rather modified, by
me, Michell Gyrodec.

I recently got all my vinyl from Canada and am rather swamped in music
now. If y'all want a fun LP, search for the soundtrack from O Brother
Where Art Thou...It's a two lp set and sounds great in analogue!

 I also got the Beatles remixes for the Cirque Du Soleil
show.can't remember what it's called. I thought it would be
awesome but they seem to have digitised it first and pumped up the
bass to ricer boy levels.

Vinyl RULES!!

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I need something that I can plug in via USB or whatever, that I can then 
hook up a turn table to, video camera or whatever to then produce a 
CD/DVD on the computer.  Anything like that exist?


Tom Hargrave wrote:

How about a USB turntable - no sound card needed  complete with Cakewalk
PYRO software:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UKUDSE
http://www.jr.com/lp-to-pc-recorder/pe/AT_ATLP2DUSB/



Replacement needles for the old stuff isn't a problem. Looks pricy until you
factor in inflation, then they are actually cheaper today than they were
way back then:
http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Replacement-Stylus


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Subject: [MBZ] OT LPs

You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to 
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot 
of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next to 
nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but it is 
really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes for the 
car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of other 
processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer turntable (a 
very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer receiver, 
hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of inputs and outputs.


I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are 
turned into bits.


--R

OK Don wrote:

What about shellac? I recently got my father's collection of 78s -
some of which he listened to at his grandparents ---
Need to get a 78 needle and resurrect the turntable.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, andrew strasfogel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

They said the same thing about LPs but look at the renaissance in vinyl

now!

  

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Re: [MBZ] Exciting Ferrari news

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT

Rich!!
Duh!  It just dawned on me we've been posting on the Ferrari and MB list for 
a long time - I kept remembering the name but thought I'd seen it n the list 
I happened to be on at the moment.


Cool!
It's interesting the same Liberal Vs Conservative argument contuinues on 
both lists -

;-)

Unfortunately it looks like the same results -

Take care --

Sincerely,
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I like the poster for the Bentley

--R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Take a look at this website for some exciting Ferrari news.

www.sniffpetrol.com

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Re: [MBZ] Exciting Ferrari news

2008-11-15 Thread LarryT
You should post the email you sent to MB to the F list (they'd enjoy it) 
about the upcoming legistalion to help the stupid and inept.

;-)

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Re: [MBZ] 2.6/2.8

2008-11-15 Thread E M
I've been reading up on the wiring issues with the said cars.  I think the
new wiring harness can be purchased for about $500, and most ppl with a
little DIY experience can do the job in about 4-5 hours, from what I've read
anyway.

Ed
300E  3.0

2008/11/15 Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  ...It's a M104 2.8L. Hendrik..
 
  So says the description, but the trunk lid number is 2.6. The 300E 2.6 is
 an
  M103 153HP stripper 300E whereas the 300E 2.8 is a 194HP M104.
 
  RLE


 Yep-

 I've got a '92 300e/2.6, and while I'd have preferred a '93 2.8
 service records sold me on my car.

 If all other things are equal, get the 2.8 (starts in '93) or better
 yet, 94/95 3.2 but be aware of the biodegradable engine wiring
 harnesses. The 2.6 is a decent car, but gutless.

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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Fmiser
 Rich wrote:

 You can download audacity to digitize your LPs,

Or those with a real OS (linux, BSD, etc), gramofile is pretty
handy. gnome_wave_cleaner can be handy too.

But even with those tools, I often use Audacity to trim and fix
some of the bad surface noise.

The latest batch has been the LPs my wife abused as a child.
*sigh* They are _rough_.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread Fmiser
  Wonko wrote:
 
  No, but three rights make a left.

 Curt wrote:
 
 I'd heard that when I was a kid and didn't understand it at
 all... Growing up in Maine you realize that the road has been
 there for 300 years or more and only follows that path because
 the surveyor followed a cow to the river...
 
 First time I saw a grid layout city was a class trip to
 Washington D.C. in 8th grade.

Yeah. Wonko is in Iowa. Except when a river gets in the way,
pretty much the whole state is laid out on a 1-mile grid.

They put up a caution sign for _every_ curve in the road out
there!

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[MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Glenn Brown
Even though the digital realm has made dramatic improvements since it's
inception into audio, one has to remember the primary purpose was not great
sound forever (courtesy of Sony) but convenience as it was intended to
replace the cassette medium and, although I'm a bit out of date here, I
believe people like Harry Pearson will still stand by analog sound from LPs
over that from CDs.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:33:52 -0500, LarryT wrote:

 Actually my next article will probably be more difficult for
 providing images.  I will be referring to software and would
 like to use screenshots but they are  proving difficult to use
 prt scn - also tried to make a image of the menu screen but
 the popup is what I need and it's kinda small.so I need to
 work on that some.  Tried right click and Copy -
 
 Hopefully I'll be able to work out the bugs  --

I have not done it, but if you setup the Accessibility settings
to magnify the area in question, it might help.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Was Cameras, now Vacuum Tubes

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
I have a few vacuum tubes, probably over 1000 of them. But I restore old
vacuum tube radios as a hobby. Some of my tubes are used in very popular
tube amps  I know I can match them  sell them for a good price but if I do
then I won't have them to support the hobby.

I also have a few tube testers.

Thanks,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cameras

WOW, thanks.  Remember back in the old days when you could go to 
Walmart, you showed them your old needle, they had a laminiated mat 
thing that had pictures of all the various needles to compare yours to 
so you would get the right one?  Heck, they even used to sell vacuum 
tubes there and even had a tester.

Rick Knoble wrote:
 I need a place online to buy LP supplies.
 
 http://www.garage-a-records.com/
 
 http://www.needledoctor.com/
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Fmiser
 Rich wrote:

 Some things need the phono pre-amp from your receiver to get a
 good signal for the sound-in, though I think now you can buy a
 USB thingie that takes the phono directly off the turntable,
 maybe that is what your device does.

Any of the magnetic cartridge output are mic level signals. But
the also need have major equalization to undo the pre-emphasis
applied prior to the original cutting. 15 dB boost at 50 Hz, 0
dB an 1 kHz, -15 dB at 20 kHz. Audacity has a EQ preset that
seem pretty close. If anyone is interested, I have the
parameters for SoX, the cli sound tool.

The problem with digitally applying the RIAA EQ is the loss of
effective bit depth to allow for 15 dB boost. If you have the
option of a decent analog phono pre-amp, that is usually a
better choice. But if not, the digital EQ works okay.

Record at 24 bit, EQ and down-convert should be fine. *smile*

--  Philip








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Re: [MBZ] Was Cameras, now Vacuum Tubes

2008-11-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have an old console stereo, that is about the same size as a coffee 
table, that uses vacuum tubes. Its amazing actually, a friend of my 
grandmothers gave that thing to me in 1983, when I was in the 3rd grade. 
 I still have it although I have not played it in years.


Tom Hargrave wrote:

I have a few vacuum tubes, probably over 1000 of them. But I restore old
vacuum tube radios as a hobby. Some of my tubes are used in very popular
tube amps  I know I can match them  sell them for a good price but if I do
then I won't have them to support the hobby.

I also have a few tube testers.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cameras

WOW, thanks.  Remember back in the old days when you could go to 
Walmart, you showed them your old needle, they had a laminiated mat 
thing that had pictures of all the various needles to compare yours to 
so you would get the right one?  Heck, they even used to sell vacuum 
tubes there and even had a tester.


Rick Knoble wrote:

I need a place online to buy LP supplies.

http://www.garage-a-records.com/

http://www.needledoctor.com/

Rick Knoble


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Re: [MBZ] Was Cameras, now Vacuum Tubes

2008-11-15 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:59:21 -0600, Tom wrote:

 I have a few vacuum tubes, probably over 1000 of them. But I
 restore old vacuum tube radios as a hobby. Some of my tubes
 are used in very popular tube amps  I know I can match them 
 sell them for a good price but if I do then I won't have them
 to support the hobby.
 
 I also have a few tube testers.

You interested in a Silvertone console wire recorder, turntable,
and radio receiver? I have one taking up space in my garage. I
just don't have the heart to junk it, so it's been sitting there
for  4 years or so since I rescued it...

I really would like to find a home for it.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
Actually, that is how the tuba players made a right hand turn in high school
marching band.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Wonko wrote:
  
   No, but three rights make a left.

  Curt wrote:
 
  I'd heard that when I was a kid and didn't understand it at
  all... Growing up in Maine you realize that the road has been
  there for 300 years or more and only follows that path because
  the surveyor followed a cow to the river...
 
  First time I saw a grid layout city was a class trip to
  Washington D.C. in 8th grade.

 Yeah. Wonko is in Iowa. Except when a river gets in the way,
 pretty much the whole state is laid out on a 1-mile grid.

 They put up a caution sign for _every_ curve in the road out
 there!

 --  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 140 Coupe

2008-11-15 Thread John Robbins

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Keeping in mind that it's a 140 and no matter how cheap it may be today, you 
wlll still be maintaining a $100K car.


Keep in mind that the 300D's, etc that we all drive are just older high 
$$ cars.  I think my '79 SD cost around $75k in today's dollars.


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Re: [MBZ] Magazines accept film images, was Cameras

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
Regardless of what you do, copies of internet print screens will be
limited to the resolution of your video card or the images delivered by the
web site, whichever is less. And because good web sites are designed to
deliver fast, the images will all be highly compressed and / or of poor
quality.

Copies of application print screens will be limited to the resolution
settings of your video card.

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It seems than at Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:33:52 -0500, LarryT wrote:

 Actually my next article will probably be more difficult for
 providing images.  I will be referring to software and would
 like to use screenshots but they are  proving difficult to use
 prt scn - also tried to make a image of the menu screen but
 the popup is what I need and it's kinda small.so I need to
 work on that some.  Tried right click and Copy -
 
 Hopefully I'll be able to work out the bugs  --

I have not done it, but if you setup the Accessibility settings
to magnify the area in question, it might help.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 115

2008-11-15 Thread Dan Weeks
Kodachrome was originally 25 speed only. Later they brought out 64  
speed as well.


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Was Cameras, now Vacuum Tubes

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
Kaleb,

It’s a shame that no-one wants the old console stereos these days but I
guess there's not a place for them in a modern household. I see console
stereos for sale all the time for $35 - $45, some with very high end
turntables installed.

You need to plug yours in somewhere and play it. Console stereos from the
early 60s were huge family purchases, not unlike the purchase of an
expensive wide screen TV today. They were all expensive in the day and all
have a wonderful sound. By the late 60s, most had turned into cheap junk,
not because they had gone solid state but because the manufacturers had
taken out so much cost.

I see the same thing happening with today's TV and computer markets.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Cameras, now Vacuum Tubes

I have an old console stereo, that is about the same size as a coffee 
table, that uses vacuum tubes. Its amazing actually, a friend of my 
grandmothers gave that thing to me in 1983, when I was in the 3rd grade. 
  I still have it although I have not played it in years.

Tom Hargrave wrote:
 I have a few vacuum tubes, probably over 1000 of them. But I restore old
 vacuum tube radios as a hobby. Some of my tubes are used in very popular
 tube amps  I know I can match them  sell them for a good price but if I
do
 then I won't have them to support the hobby.
 
 I also have a few tube testers.
 
 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cameras
 
 WOW, thanks.  Remember back in the old days when you could go to 
 Walmart, you showed them your old needle, they had a laminiated mat 
 thing that had pictures of all the various needles to compare yours to 
 so you would get the right one?  Heck, they even used to sell vacuum 
 tubes there and even had a tester.
 
 Rick Knoble wrote:
 I need a place online to buy LP supplies.
 http://www.garage-a-records.com/

 http://www.needledoctor.com/

 Rick Knoble


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Re: [MBZ] Was Cameras, now Vacuum Tubes

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
I'd love to play with it but how would we get it here?

Thanks,
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It seems than at Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:59:21 -0600, Tom wrote:

 I have a few vacuum tubes, probably over 1000 of them. But I
 restore old vacuum tube radios as a hobby. Some of my tubes
 are used in very popular tube amps  I know I can match them 
 sell them for a good price but if I do then I won't have them
 to support the hobby.
 
 I also have a few tube testers.

You interested in a Silvertone console wire recorder, turntable,
and radio receiver? I have one taking up space in my garage. I
just don't have the heart to junk it, so it's been sitting there
for  4 years or so since I rescued it...

I really would like to find a home for it.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread OK Don
LPI and pixels don't match up very well - for one thing, lpi is line
pairs per inch. A rough equivalent is to double the pixels to equal
lpi. I read an article on the details years ago, but have forgotten
most of them.
The lines are alternating black and white - one b/w pair counts as one
'line' in the lpi calculation. Each one would be a pixel in the
digital world, a black pixel with a white one beside it.

Most film scanners do fine for resolution, but fall down in dynamic
range, or contrast range. Don't know how you rate mtf to scanning,
just barely recall how it relates to lenses.

Absolutely - my best prints are contact  prints from 8x10 film. Even
the OLD lenses look great. Paper becomes the limiting factor (and our
eyes). I think good paper only resolves around 20 lpi.

Think about enlarging that 35mm negative - if it starts at 100 lpi,
and you enlarge it 10X - abut an 11x14, you only have 10 lpi at the
paper, IF your enlarging lens is perfect (doesn't exist).

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Standard high quality magazine printing is 150 lines per inch in four color
 -- super high resolution isn't necessary.  However, a decent drum scanner IS
 if you want adequate density range to get good reproduction.

 Lets see, 150 lpi times 10 inches  is 1500 pixels, and 35mm film is just
 about 1 inch tall and 1.5 inches wide.  Even my cheapo Scan Dual can do
 better than that for resolution, and it's nowhere near the limit of the
 film.

 Now, if you want super resolution in the PRINT, use contact printed 11x14
 film.

 Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread OK Don
I loved Tech Pan - started using it when it was a special order item
and only had a number - pre-name. We used it for BW aerial
photography - used M Leicas and 50mm Summicron lens.  The red bias of
Tech Pan coupled with the extremely high resolution and extremely fine
grain menat that your ability to hold tha camera steady was the
limiting factor. We good some very good 16x20 prints from it. (Also a
lot of blurry useless negatives). I never had as good results with the
120 TP as I did with the 35mm - it was a slightly different emulsion,
but didn't get a good tonal range, nor the sharpness that we did
with the Leica/TP combination.

Someone has done some work with a flatbed scanner attached to the back
of a view camera - can only be used on stationary subjects, but
captured a LOT of pixels --- took some driver hacking to get it to
work - beyond my skills.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That MicroNikkor is a great lens, but the mid  70's Vivitar Series 1 90 mm
 is better, at all aperatures and distances.  Not a cheap lens, though!  List
 was $349 or so in 1978.

 Kodachrome was available in 16mm initially (1934, I think), then medium
 format (120), sheet of all sizes, and 35mm (1936 or so).  The initial
 version was not anything like the later ones, is quite rare now, and fades
 horribly.

 You can only get really good 35mm images by using a weighted tripod with a
 large, heavy head, and a camera that does not produce significant shutter
 vibration.  Otherwise, camera movement will significantly degrade the image.
  I found this out while playing with some Technical Pan film for pictoral
 work.  Hard to believe you can reproduce such tiny detail if you are VERY
 careful.  I've got a picture of the lake on campus at SIU, and with a grain
 magnifier you can read the labels on the discarded soda cans on the
 shoreline

 I know there are digital cameras with this kind of resolution, but I think
 they are about the size of a bus these days, and fly around in orbit spying
 on us.

 Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 115

2008-11-15 Thread LWB250
When I dusted off the Mamiya a year or so ago, I was really distressed to 
discover that they no longer produce 120 Kodachrome.  I shot boatloads of the 
stuff and loved it - there is nothing better, IMHO.  Most of the work I did was 
landscape stuff, which was probably better done with a more blue-shifted 
emulsion like Ektachrome or Velvia, but I liked the color redition of 
Kodachrome plus the archival qualities.

FWIW, I have a couple of unused processing mailers for the stuff

I scanned the family 35mm slides (over 5,000) that my Dad took over the years.  
Most of the stuff he shot in the 50s and early 60s was Kodachrome, and it was 
still in pretty good shape.  A little fading was noticeable in some of the 
older images, but I would also attribute some of it to use in the projector.

I gave each image about 20 seconds on the screen along with making the TIFF 
file on each DVD.  I think it took five single layer DVDs to do them alland 
it toasted a Nikon slide scanner.

Dan


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 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 115
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 3:58 PM
 Kodachrome was originally 25 speed only. Later they brought
 out 64 speed as well.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Nov 15, 2008, at 10:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Seems like the Kodachrome slide film used to be ASA
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Re: [MBZ] 140 Coupe

2008-11-15 Thread OK Don
Yup - the '78 450SLC that MMM now has sold for more than the house I
bought new in '78.

 Keep in mind that the 300D's, etc that we all drive are just older high $$
 cars.  I think my '79 SD cost around $75k in today's dollars.


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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Loren Faeth
Guys, thanks for this OT discussion.  One of my goals for the past 
few years has been to get out my vinyly collection, most of which has 
only been played once or twice to make a cassette tape, and transfer 
them into a format I can use on an ipod.  then I can justify the 
expense of an ipod.


I agree, analog has distinction over digital, but frankly, I'd be 
happy to hear good music in digital. I have stuff like the Moody 
Blues first album, which was a flop, King Crimson, E,L  P, Bach 
played on the Luneburg organ, E. Power Biggs play Scott 
Joplin,  Mason Proffit, Osibisa, and the usual Black Sabbath, Who and so forth.


I have My 1972 Pioneer 626, Pioneer PL-12 turntable, and it still has 
the original sure cartridge.  I need to figure out how to get the 
sound into a computer, and the correct software, large storage and so 
forth.  I am ambidextrous, but I'd prefer to keep sound and video on 
the Mac platform, as it is more adept by nature for audio and 
video.  Seems like a good winter project: digitize all my old vinyl 
and some old 78s of big bands and so forth.  I'd guess SWMBO would 
like her seals  Croft etc. also.


How much storage does it take for 100 or so albums?

I'd appreciate any advise.  TIA


At 11:00 AM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
Some things need the phono pre-amp from your receiver to get a good 
signal for the sound-in, though I think now you can buy a USB 
thingie that takes the phono directly off the turntable, maybe that 
is what your device does.  My soundcard is a USB external box with 
RCA jacks for line in/out, an optical in/out, a mic in, phones out. 
plug, got it somewhere for about $20 on a closeout desk, has been 
working now for 5 yr or so, maybe longer.


There are a bunch of various programs and whatnot, audacity is open 
source free, does a lot of cool things.  Those USB turntables are 
intriguing, but since I have a couple of turntables and receivers 
and all the other gizmos, no need for one.


--R

Allan Streib wrote:

Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot
of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next
to nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but
it is really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes
for the car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of
other processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer
turntable (a very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer
receiver, hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of
inputs and outputs.

I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are
turned into bits.



I bought a little device called an iMic (Griffin) which connects to the
USB port on my Mac laptop.  It comes with software called Final Vinyl
that seems OK, though you can use Auadacity or whatever with it as well
(I have not tried anything else).  You can connect your turntable
directly to it if you like, but I'm running mine through my receiver
first.

I've digitized a couple of albums and am generally pleased with the
results.  The software's default levels produce a very quiet file so I
tend to boost them so they are similar to what I get from iTunes (but
careful not to push the levels to the point of clipping).

I also still have my old college turntable, which is a DJ-style Technics
(SL1200 MK2) with a Stanton 600 cartridge. At 20 years of age that
turntable still works flawlessly, but I think I could do better on the
cartridge, I don't recall it being very expensive.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 115

2008-11-15 Thread OK Don
Wow - that about confirms it for me - I have started scanning my
slides/negatives (probably between 20 - 30k) with a Polaroid
SprintScan - WAY too slow, and not enough dynamic range. I've been
thinking of using a digital SLR, my 74mm Zeiss Planar-S lens (
optimized for 1:1 copying of 35mm film), and the slide copying
colorhead and shooting digital photos as if I was making dupe slides.
This would be one of my justifications for purchasing a Nikon D300 or
D700.

  I think it took five single layer DVDs to do them alland it
toasted a Nikon slide scanner.

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
Since someone mentioned LPI  pixels per inch, another thing to consider
when comparing film ( paper) to digital is that neither film nor photo
paper have lines or pixels. Film and photo paper are not composed of evenly
ordered lines and pixels. They have a grain size and even the grain is not
even.

And because of the technology differences, even today's best digital cameras
don't have the information storage ability that a typical 35 mm film has. Go
to a photo shop and ask to look at some 35 mm negatives on a light box with
an eye loop. You'll see detail in the image that no digital camera will
pick-up, at least not yet.

You can not do the same comparison with a modern print made from a negative
because the image is digitized then printed. In other words, some of the
crappy 35 mm images commented earlier may be the photo processor's fault. I
shot some BW 35 mm photos last month, had them processed at Wally-World 
the prints were horrible. The issue was their processor - the negatives are
much sharper  less grainy.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution  Publication

LPI and pixels don't match up very well - for one thing, lpi is line
pairs per inch. A rough equivalent is to double the pixels to equal
lpi. I read an article on the details years ago, but have forgotten
most of them.
The lines are alternating black and white - one b/w pair counts as one
'line' in the lpi calculation. Each one would be a pixel in the
digital world, a black pixel with a white one beside it.

Most film scanners do fine for resolution, but fall down in dynamic
range, or contrast range. Don't know how you rate mtf to scanning,
just barely recall how it relates to lenses.

Absolutely - my best prints are contact  prints from 8x10 film. Even
the OLD lenses look great. Paper becomes the limiting factor (and our
eyes). I think good paper only resolves around 20 lpi.

Think about enlarging that 35mm negative - if it starts at 100 lpi,
and you enlarge it 10X - abut an 11x14, you only have 10 lpi at the
paper, IF your enlarging lens is perfect (doesn't exist).

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Standard high quality magazine printing is 150 lines per inch in four
color
 -- super high resolution isn't necessary.  However, a decent drum scanner
IS
 if you want adequate density range to get good reproduction.

 Lets see, 150 lpi times 10 inches  is 1500 pixels, and 35mm film is just
 about 1 inch tall and 1.5 inches wide.  Even my cheapo Scan Dual can do
 better than that for resolution, and it's nowhere near the limit of the
 film.

 Now, if you want super resolution in the PRINT, use contact printed 11x14
 film.

 Peter

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Norman, OK
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'90 300D (Rattled),  '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent
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[MBZ] Hammie passes inspection

2008-11-15 Thread Curt Raymond
As always its handy to know a guy who knows a guy.

So the car passed inspection, the state will be off my back for one year. I 
went out for a ride to celebrate. Took a short highway run and above 60mph I've 
got a pretty serious vibration. I can't tell where its coming from, some 
posibilities:
Bad upper ball joints
Bad UCA bushings
Bad tire

Upper ball joints and UCAs should get replaced this week as will the rear 
shocks. The tires *might* be done this week, should be done by Saturday.


Anybody want to place bets? One last thing is that when I was trying to figure 
out why the hood wouldn't pop I took the posts out so when the vibration is 
present the hood corners vibrate. With luck the rain will quit and I can try to 
fix that tomorrow.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
I started down this path once, then I gave up  started buying CDs of what I
wanted. You'd be surprised at what's already out there!

Thanks,
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

Guys, thanks for this OT discussion.  One of my goals for the past 
few years has been to get out my vinyly collection, most of which has 
only been played once or twice to make a cassette tape, and transfer 
them into a format I can use on an ipod.  then I can justify the 
expense of an ipod.

I agree, analog has distinction over digital, but frankly, I'd be 
happy to hear good music in digital. I have stuff like the Moody 
Blues first album, which was a flop, King Crimson, E,L  P, Bach 
played on the Luneburg organ, E. Power Biggs play Scott 
Joplin,  Mason Proffit, Osibisa, and the usual Black Sabbath, Who and so
forth.

I have My 1972 Pioneer 626, Pioneer PL-12 turntable, and it still has 
the original sure cartridge.  I need to figure out how to get the 
sound into a computer, and the correct software, large storage and so 
forth.  I am ambidextrous, but I'd prefer to keep sound and video on 
the Mac platform, as it is more adept by nature for audio and 
video.  Seems like a good winter project: digitize all my old vinyl 
and some old 78s of big bands and so forth.  I'd guess SWMBO would 
like her seals  Croft etc. also.

How much storage does it take for 100 or so albums?

I'd appreciate any advise.  TIA


At 11:00 AM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
Some things need the phono pre-amp from your receiver to get a good 
signal for the sound-in, though I think now you can buy a USB 
thingie that takes the phono directly off the turntable, maybe that 
is what your device does.  My soundcard is a USB external box with 
RCA jacks for line in/out, an optical in/out, a mic in, phones out. 
plug, got it somewhere for about $20 on a closeout desk, has been 
working now for 5 yr or so, maybe longer.

There are a bunch of various programs and whatnot, audacity is open 
source free, does a lot of cool things.  Those USB turntables are 
intriguing, but since I have a couple of turntables and receivers 
and all the other gizmos, no need for one.

--R

Allan Streib wrote:
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot
of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next
to nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but
it is really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes
for the car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of
other processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer
turntable (a very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer
receiver, hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of
inputs and outputs.

I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are
turned into bits.


I bought a little device called an iMic (Griffin) which connects to the
USB port on my Mac laptop.  It comes with software called Final Vinyl
that seems OK, though you can use Auadacity or whatever with it as well
(I have not tried anything else).  You can connect your turntable
directly to it if you like, but I'm running mine through my receiver
first.

I've digitized a couple of albums and am generally pleased with the
results.  The software's default levels produce a very quiet file so I
tend to boost them so they are similar to what I get from iTunes (but
careful not to push the levels to the point of clipping).

I also still have my old college turntable, which is a DJ-style Technics
(SL1200 MK2) with a Stanton 600 cartridge. At 20 years of age that
turntable still works flawlessly, but I think I could do better on the
cartridge, I don't recall it being very expensive.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Allan Streib
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How much storage does it take for 100 or so albums?

On my Mac with the iMic and Final Vinyl software, very roughly about
20MB per minute for the raw (.aiff) format.

Once that's pulled into iTunes and compressed to the .m4a format, it's
reduced about a factor of 20 (e.g. 1 MB per minute).

These are rough values but should be close for estimation purposes.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Hammie passes inspection

2008-11-15 Thread harry watkins

Congratulations on passing the inspection.

Tires.

Harry

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Subject: [MBZ] Hammie passes inspection



As always its handy to know a guy who knows a guy.

So the car passed inspection, the state will be off my back for one year. 
I went out for a ride to celebrate. Took a short highway run and above 
60mph I've got a pretty serious vibration. I can't tell where its coming 
from, some posibilities:

Bad upper ball joints
Bad UCA bushings
Bad tire

Upper ball joints and UCAs should get replaced this week as will the rear 
shocks. The tires *might* be done this week, should be done by Saturday.



Anybody want to place bets? One last thing is that when I was trying to 
figure out why the hood wouldn't pop I took the posts out so when the 
vibration is present the hood corners vibrate. With luck the rain will 
quit and I can try to fix that tomorrow.


-Curt




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[MBZ] OT Macbook Air price drop

2008-11-15 Thread Loren Faeth

I see today Macmall (PCMall) has

13.3 MacBook Air 1.6GHz 2GB RAM 80GB Hard Drive MB003LL/A

Intel Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, 80GB PATA HD, 13.3 TFT 
WXGA, 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth, Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard

MacMall Part#: 7373085 Platform: Macintosh
Mfr.Part#: MB003LL/A


for $1150.  That is a big drop from $1800

I just got a g4 Powerbook, so I won't be buying one.   However, if 
anyone is interested in a G3 ibook, mine will be for sale.  It has 
worked great for email web browsing and occaisional m$ office 
work.  It has M$ remote desktop client, so it is my winders laptop 
also.  It is almost as small and light as and Air, but not 
quite.  Unlike the Air, it has a cd/dvd player/recorder in it.




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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Loren Faeth
yeah, but that is the price of 3 or 4 Kleb cars.  And then you can 
only play one cd at a time.  By building a big library, I can play 
anything anywhere, all in a series, without having to flip cds all 
the time..  Same reason I didn't like playing vinyl.  you had to flip 
them all the time.


At 04:42 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote:

I started down this path once, then I gave up  started buying CDs of what I
wanted. You'd be surprised at what's already out there!

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

Guys, thanks for this OT discussion.  One of my goals for the past
few years has been to get out my vinyly collection, most of which has
only been played once or twice to make a cassette tape, and transfer
them into a format I can use on an ipod.  then I can justify the
expense of an ipod.

I agree, analog has distinction over digital, but frankly, I'd be
happy to hear good music in digital. I have stuff like the Moody
Blues first album, which was a flop, King Crimson, E,L  P, Bach
played on the Luneburg organ, E. Power Biggs play Scott
Joplin,  Mason Proffit, Osibisa, and the usual Black Sabbath, Who and so
forth.

I have My 1972 Pioneer 626, Pioneer PL-12 turntable, and it still has
the original sure cartridge.  I need to figure out how to get the
sound into a computer, and the correct software, large storage and so
forth.  I am ambidextrous, but I'd prefer to keep sound and video on
the Mac platform, as it is more adept by nature for audio and
video.  Seems like a good winter project: digitize all my old vinyl
and some old 78s of big bands and so forth.  I'd guess SWMBO would
like her seals  Croft etc. also.

How much storage does it take for 100 or so albums?

I'd appreciate any advise.  TIA


At 11:00 AM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
Some things need the phono pre-amp from your receiver to get a good
signal for the sound-in, though I think now you can buy a USB
thingie that takes the phono directly off the turntable, maybe that
is what your device does.  My soundcard is a USB external box with
RCA jacks for line in/out, an optical in/out, a mic in, phones out.
plug, got it somewhere for about $20 on a closeout desk, has been
working now for 5 yr or so, maybe longer.

There are a bunch of various programs and whatnot, audacity is open
source free, does a lot of cool things.  Those USB turntables are
intriguing, but since I have a couple of turntables and receivers
and all the other gizmos, no need for one.

--R

Allan Streib wrote:
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a lot
of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for next
to nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks etc but
it is really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make CD mixes
for the car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a bunch of
other processing features.  I have my college-vintage Pioneer
turntable (a very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and Pioneer
receiver, hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a bunch of
inputs and outputs.

I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they are
turned into bits.


I bought a little device called an iMic (Griffin) which connects to the
USB port on my Mac laptop.  It comes with software called Final Vinyl
that seems OK, though you can use Auadacity or whatever with it as well
(I have not tried anything else).  You can connect your turntable
directly to it if you like, but I'm running mine through my receiver
first.

I've digitized a couple of albums and am generally pleased with the
results.  The software's default levels produce a very quiet file so I
tend to boost them so they are similar to what I get from iTunes (but
careful not to push the levels to the point of clipping).

I also still have my old college turntable, which is a DJ-style Technics
(SL1200 MK2) with a Stanton 600 cartridge. At 20 years of age that
turntable still works flawlessly, but I think I could do better on the
cartridge, I don't recall it being very expensive.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Hammie passes inspection

2008-11-15 Thread Loren Faeth

tires (slipped belt)

then driveshaft

At 04:38 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote:

As always its handy to know a guy who knows a guy.

So the car passed inspection, the state will be off my back for one 
year. I went out for a ride to celebrate. Took a short highway run 
and above 60mph I've got a pretty serious vibration. I can't tell 
where its coming from, some posibilities:

Bad upper ball joints
Bad UCA bushings
Bad tire

Upper ball joints and UCAs should get replaced this week as will the 
rear shocks. The tires *might* be done this week, should be done by Saturday.



Anybody want to place bets? One last thing is that when I was trying 
to figure out why the hood wouldn't pop I took the posts out so when 
the vibration is present the hood corners vibrate. With luck the 
rain will quit and I can try to fix that tomorrow.


-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Two different things -- you can get a USB turntable for about $100 (Ion 
I think they are called) at Bestbuy, or if you have a turntable hooked 
to a receiver near your computer, you can either get a sound card with a 
R/L RCA jack in and hook that to the monitor out on your receiver, or 
get a double RCA to plug adapter cable that will go to the line in 
socket on your computer, then you can record stuff off the 
turntable/receiver (or radio or tape or whatever you play through your 
receiver).


For an analog vid cam you need a video/audio in card or USB dongle.  You 
can get a card for $25 or so, or one of those dongles for maybe $50 to 
$100.  The vid input card/dongle should come with some software or there 
are free ones (VideoLAN) that will digitize the vid/audio for you to 
make a vid file, then you can burn it to a DVD (or CD) using whatever 
burning software.  If you want to edit the vid you need some software to 
do that, they usually will burn it too.  I have some cheap card I got 
that I have been transferring old vid tape cassettes from the old 
camcorder to, works fine.


If you have a digital vid cam, they usually plug right into a IEEE1394 
(Firewire) port on your (newer) computer.  If you don't have a firewire 
port you can get a card (either for your desktop machine or a PCMCIA for 
a laptop).  Same software aspects apply.


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I need something that I can plug in via USB or whatever, that I can 
then hook up a turn table to, video camera or whatever to then produce 
a CD/DVD on the computer.  Anything like that exist?


Tom Hargrave wrote:
How about a USB turntable - no sound card needed  complete with 
Cakewalk

PYRO software:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UKUDSE
http://www.jr.com/lp-to-pc-recorder/pe/AT_ATLP2DUSB/



Replacement needles for the old stuff isn't a problem. Looks pricy 
until you

factor in inflation, then they are actually cheaper today than they were
way back then:
http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Replacement-Stylus


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT LPs

You can download audacity to digitize your LPs, it has a feature to 
record 78s at 45 or 33 then correct for speed.  I have digitized a 
lot of my old LPs (including some old 78s I got at estate sales for 
next to nothing), you have to twiddle a bit with naming the tracks 
etc but it is really nice to have them on the Zen player or to make 
CD mixes for the car.  It also has noise reduction algorithms and a 
bunch of other processing features.  I have my college-vintage 
Pioneer turntable (a very nice one with original Shure cartridge) and 
Pioneer receiver, hooked up to an outboard sound card that has a 
bunch of inputs and outputs.


I find those old vinyl albums hard to fit in my pocket unless they 
are turned into bits.


--R

OK Don wrote:

What about shellac? I recently got my father's collection of 78s -
some of which he listened to at his grandparents ---
Need to get a 78 needle and resurrect the turntable.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, andrew strasfogel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
They said the same thing about LPs but look at the renaissance in 
vinyl

now!

  

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Re: [MBZ] Exciting Ferrari news

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas

Not me on the Ferrari list, wish I could

--R

LarryT wrote:
You should post the email you sent to MB to the F list (they'd enjoy 
it) about the upcoming legistalion to help the stupid and inept.

;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
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I like the poster for the Bentley

--R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Take a look at this website for some exciting Ferrari news.

www.sniffpetrol.com

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Hammie passes inspection

2008-11-15 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I went out for a ride to celebrate. Took a short highway run and above
 60mph I've got a pretty serious vibration.

If it seems like a harmonic vibration e.g. occurs at certain speeds
but not others it could be as simple as needing the tires properly
spin-balanced.  That's usually pretty inexpensive at any shop that has
the equipment.

Allan
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1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas

I gotta get Linux going one of these days on something, too many projects...

--R

Fmiser wrote:

Rich wrote:

You can download audacity to digitize your LPs,



Or those with a real OS (linux, BSD, etc), gramofile is pretty
handy. gnome_wave_cleaner can be handy too.

But even with those tools, I often use Audacity to trim and fix
some of the bad surface noise.

The latest batch has been the LPs my wife abused as a child.
*sigh* They are _rough_.

--Philip

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[MBZ] Hero tool of the day

2008-11-15 Thread harry watkins
My magnetic floor sweep.  I dropped a small nut that naturally went into the 
cat litter under the car and within two inches of center (as always).  Strong 
light, on my belly, no luck.  Then I remembered buying one of those floor 
sweeps, rolled it under the car and heard the click, done.

Harry 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 36, Issue 115

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
No, it was originally ASA 8, later 12.  Kodachrome II was initially  
25, if I remember correctly (that was a LONG time ago now!) and then  
High Speed Kodachrome came along (ASA 64).  Kodak re-labeled them to  
Kodachrome 25 and Kodachrome 64 in the late 70s, I think.


It's the reason so many family pictures were taken outside -- too  
dark inside until higher speed films came along, along with the  
enclosed flash bulb.  Too much chance of setting the house on fire to  
use a magnesium powder flash for a family picture.!


Peter

On Nov 15, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Dan Weeks wrote:

Kodachrome was originally 25 speed only. Later they brought out 64  
speed as well.


Dan


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Seems like the Kodachrome slide film used to be ASA 64.



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Re: [MBZ] your government at its absolute finest

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Like a NASCAR race and politics, 4 left turns and you end up where you 
started, having gone nowhere.


--R

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Actually, that is how the tuba players made a right hand turn in high school
marching band.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Wonko wrote:

No, but three rights make a left.


Curt wrote:

I'd heard that when I was a kid and didn't understand it at
all... Growing up in Maine you realize that the road has been
there for 300 years or more and only follows that path because
the surveyor followed a cow to the river...

First time I saw a grid layout city was a class trip to
Washington D.C. in 8th grade.
  

Yeah. Wonko is in Iowa. Except when a river gets in the way,
pretty much the whole state is laid out on a 1-mile grid.

They put up a caution sign for _every_ curve in the road out
there!

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Film Resolution Publication

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
120 film suffers badly from lack of film plane flatness -- it's thin  
film rolled into a tight spool, then unwound intermittantly and  
stretched across a 6 cm square hole very slightly looser than the  
paper backing.  Not an ideal situation, and the older the film, the  
worse the problem.


Just for fun, put a roll of bad film into a 120 camera sometime and  
remove the lens and open the shutter.  You can see the lack of  
flatness


Peter

On Nov 15, 2008, at 4:06 PM, OK Don wrote:


I loved Tech Pan - started using it when it was a special order item
and only had a number - pre-name. We used it for BW aerial
photography - used M Leicas and 50mm Summicron lens.  The red bias of
Tech Pan coupled with the extremely high resolution and extremely fine
grain menat that your ability to hold tha camera steady was the
limiting factor. We good some very good 16x20 prints from it. (Also a
lot of blurry useless negatives). I never had as good results with the
120 TP as I did with the 35mm - it was a slightly different emulsion,
but didn't get a good tonal range, nor the sharpness that we did
with the Leica/TP combination.

Someone has done some work with a flatbed scanner attached to the back
of a view camera - can only be used on stationary subjects, but
captured a LOT of pixels --- took some driver hacking to get it to
work - beyond my skills.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Peter Frederick  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That MicroNikkor is a great lens, but the mid  70's Vivitar Series  
1 90 mm
is better, at all aperatures and distances.  Not a cheap lens,  
though!  List

was $349 or so in 1978.

Kodachrome was available in 16mm initially (1934, I think), then  
medium

format (120), sheet of all sizes, and 35mm (1936 or so).  The initial
version was not anything like the later ones, is quite rare now,  
and fades

horribly.

You can only get really good 35mm images by using a weighted  
tripod with a
large, heavy head, and a camera that does not produce significant  
shutter
vibration.  Otherwise, camera movement will significantly degrade  
the image.
 I found this out while playing with some Technical Pan film for  
pictoral
work.  Hard to believe you can reproduce such tiny detail if you  
are VERY
careful.  I've got a picture of the lake on campus at SIU, and  
with a grain

magnifier you can read the labels on the discarded soda cans on the
shoreline

I know there are digital cameras with this kind of resolution, but  
I think
they are about the size of a bus these days, and fly around in  
orbit spying

on us.

Peter


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mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.  - Ernest Hemingway
'90 300D (Rattled),  '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager  
(Vincent van-go)


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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
That is the exact same setup I have!  1973 or so!  Still works a 
champ!.  You really need next to nothing, an RCA -- stereo miniplug 
cable to from the monitor out on the rcvr to go into your computer (RCA 
-- RCA if you have a soundcard that does that), and audacity and some 
time to sit and babysit the process.  And some beer.


--R

Loren Faeth wrote:
I have My 1972 Pioneer 626, Pioneer PL-12 turntable, and it still has 
the original sure cartridge. 


How much storage does it take for 100 or so albums?




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Re: [MBZ] Was Cameras, now Vacuum Tubes

2008-11-15 Thread Loren Faeth
Anybody got an extra Pioneer SX 626 or 636 etc. tube type receiver 
you'd like to sell?  Mine has been bullet-proof for the last 36 years.




Loren Faeth 



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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Air price drop

2008-11-15 Thread Allan Streib
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I see today Macmall (PCMall) has

 13.3 MacBook Air 1.6GHz 2GB RAM 80GB Hard Drive MB003LL/A

 Intel Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, 80GB PATA HD, 13.3 TFT WXGA,
 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth, Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard
 MacMall Part#: 7373085 Platform: Macintosh
 Mfr.Part#: MB003LL/A

 for $1150.  That is a big drop from $1800

I think if you've got the money to spend, this Christmas season will
present some real bargains.  Retailers are shaking in their boots about
the economy.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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[MBZ] About to find out how expensive major CDI repair is...

2008-11-15 Thread John Robbins

The CDI just decided it doesn't want to run on all cylinders. :(

One moment it was working great, one moment later it was running 
horrible.  It runs like an OM617 with 2+ loose injector lines. I'm going 
to make sure there are no fuel leaks tomorrow in daylight, and if not 
going to get it trailered 2 hours down to the dealer in Jackson.  I 
luckily have a friend with a dually and a car trailer!


My theory is the high pressure pump took a dump.  There is no 
white/black/blue smoke out the rear, which leads me to think it is a 
lack of fuel. I doubt multiple injectors failed at once...


Fortunately I just received my W211 DVD Manual (it is much easier to use 
than the older ones).  So I can hopefully get some insight into this 
problem.  I'm also scouring the internet...  I'll find out what the 
problem is one way or the other.


John



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Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-15 Thread Loren Faeth
I mostly used the turntable to record cassettes.  I bet it only has 
2-- to 300 hours of use.  Yes, a LOT of baby-sitting time.  I think 
we are in for a long cold winter.  It started snowing about the first 
of NOV  Way early!  Winds of November in October...  Way 
early.  So I htink I may have some time this winter to baby-sit the process.


My SX-626 is flawless, other than some of the bulbs have burned 
out.  Anybody know where I can get replacements?  I sent a sample to 
the local electronics house, and he lost it.  I have not tried 
since.  They are hard-wired in.  I used to know the voltage, but I 
don't remember it now.






At 05:01 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
That is the exact same setup I have!  1973 or so!  Still works a 
champ!.  You really need next to nothing, an RCA -- stereo miniplug 
cable to from the monitor out on the rcvr to go into your computer 
(RCA -- RCA if you have a soundcard that does that), and audacity 
and some time to sit and babysit the process.  And some beer.


--R

Loren Faeth wrote:
I have My 1972 Pioneer 626, Pioneer PL-12 turntable, and it still 
has the original sure cartridge.

How much storage does it take for 100 or so albums?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Air price drop

2008-11-15 Thread Loren Faeth

I'm thinking the REAL bargains will be in Jan/Feb after they are really hurting


At 05:08 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote:

Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I see today Macmall (PCMall) has

 13.3 MacBook Air 1.6GHz 2GB RAM 80GB Hard Drive MB003LL/A

 Intel Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz, 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, 80GB PATA HD, 13.3 TFT WXGA,
 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth, Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard
 MacMall Part#: 7373085 Platform: Macintosh
 Mfr.Part#: MB003LL/A

 for $1150.  That is a big drop from $1800

I think if you've got the money to spend, this Christmas season will
present some real bargains.  Retailers are shaking in their boots about
the economy.

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 2.6/2.8/3.0/2.3/3.2

2008-11-15 Thread Hendrik Fay
There is a M104 lurking in the car, hard to tell exactly what it is 
badged as but the 2.8 has electronic injection whilst early 104 3 liter 
motors had KE.

My understanding is that the 104 is basically a 103 with DOHC.
Performance of the 2.8 is not that much more than the 3 liter M103, 
until you get into the higher rev range where the extra valves come into 
play.
The 2.6 M103 is a bit of a dog, does not have the fuel economy of the 
2.3 liter M102 and does not have the poke of the 3 liter M103.


Hendrik
with a 3 liter M103

Tony Wirtel wrote:

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...It's a M104 2.8L. Hendrik..

  

So says the description, but the trunk lid number is 2.6. The 300E 2.6 is an
M103 153HP stripper 300E whereas the 300E 2.8 is a 194HP M104.

RLE




Yep-

I've got a '92 300e/2.6, and while I'd have preferred a '93 2.8
service records sold me on my car.

If all other things are equal, get the 2.8 (starts in '93) or better
yet, 94/95 3.2 but be aware of the biodegradable engine wiring
harnesses. The 2.6 is a decent car, but gutless.

Tony Wirtel
  

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