Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kevin Kraly]

All you are doing is hooking the end of the cable over a little rod thing.

Do you have to put it in the hole, catch the rod by feel and then tug on it 
to make sure it's in place before locking it in on top?  I think this would 
definitely be a job worth doing on my W126 to put it right.  It's had shift 
timing problems since I bought it.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kevin Kraly]

My sister's Mag was holding up well last I saw it at 25K miles.  It should 
last her for years even with the abuse from a family of 5.  The interior 
cleans up well.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Transposing trumpet

[Jim Cathey]

Most trumpet players I know can transpose at sight ;)  My college


Youse hang out with a better class of musician than I.
Actually, there are real musicians out there, then there
are the rest of us!  I try not to let my lack of ability
cut into my fun.


trumpet and I always play right out of the hymnal and improvise


I can play out of the hymnal, too.  But can anyone else play
with me?  Well yes, if it's a clarinet, tenor sax, etc.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT CDL farm use, was Hay wagons

[Kevin]

He means the cinder block farms, where they harvest the state rock :)


On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:53:11PM -0600, Wonko the Sane wrote:
> There are farms in WV? I don't recall ever seeing many (or perhaps any?)
> growing up there.
> 
> Where and what are they growing?
> 
> "Coal farms" don't count.

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Re: [MBZ] homemade jet engine using old turbocharger...

[Archer]

The 75 MPH Bicycle That's Powered by a Jet Engine [Zoom]
http://technorati.com/posts/NBMPEEukX%2BFGiVkxhFAj7r%2BYWjEmOFqedKUdUAW9s%2BE%3D
Robert Maddox is a builder and seller of real pulse jet engines with powers 
up to 1000 pounds... and if that's not a cool enough hobby, he's also bolted 
one to a bicycle. The 50-ish pounds of thrust developed by the engine could 
push the bike up to 75 MPH, which would be a real bone-shaker of a ride. And 
a deafening one too: the pulse jet engine makes a frightening racket, and 
its humming sound earned the 2nd World War cruise-missile V1s which used 
similar engines the nicknames buzzbomb and doodlebug. You can hear and see 
the results of this DIY craziness in the video.

..
During WW-2 a kid in my 3000 population home town bought two of the little 
"buzzbomb" engines designed to be built into model airplanes and fastened 
them to his bike.  Getting up enough bike speed to start the engines was the 
big problem but once started, they would wake up every dog in town and you 
could hear them running a mile away.  He said he had to turn off the fuel 
supply to stop because the old fashioned "coaster brake" on his bike 
wouldn't do it with the engines running.

Gerry
'
---
- Original Message - 
From: E M

You're never too young to start blowing things up. lol
First thing I thought when I saw that video.extra fuel line and a spark
plug, ta da, afterburner! :-)
Probably just as good I don't have kids, eh?
Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Christopher McCann 

There are a lot of these vids on youtube. Many use Garret turbos. This
would make a great science project provided there is plenty of adult
supervision...more like collaboration. That's a lot more exciting than the
hot wire anemometer I made in 7th grade. Hmm..oldest is in third 
grade...few

more years.
Chris



> From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
> Let me know when you guys plan to do it, I'll bring the
> beer and First Aid
> kit. hee hee. ;-)
> Ed
> 300E



> 2009/1/7 Christopher McCann 
> > I want to make one - Lt. Don, can you be technical
> advisor?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-spt7y1v6Y
> > Chris 



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Re: [MBZ] Florida

[Archer]

ROFL!!!  Come on down.
Gerry
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Me! Me! Me!
I'll do it!!!
(Any chance to escape from this dreary winter weather.)
Dan


--- On Wed, 1/7/09, relng...@aol.com  wrote:

From: relng...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Florida
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 1:44 AM

...Was hoping someone would volunteer to help this poor old Mercedes 
lover.

(Sniff!)
How about you, Roger? You could fly down here to Florida as my house 
guest,

get out of
all that awful ice and snow; and just to have something to do; wax and
detail my beautiful
240D. (o:]
Gerry..


Thanks for the gracious invitation but having visited Florida a number of
times, if I have to endure daily rain storms, I would rather do so in 
Hawaii.


RLE


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net

[mykd1]

sorry Kaleb its me Harry. I'll change my email if it helps


Harry M
69 280 SE
72 350 SL
08 VW Passat 3.6


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 3:23 pm
Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net


Who is this person? Every post that goes thru the list gets bounced back to me 
from this email address. I have turned off delivery to this address several 
times but this person always turns it back on. Whoever it is needs to start 
using a different email address for list mail. Gmail would probably be good.?
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, it would help.  Dont know what the deal is but I get a bounce back 
from your mail provider for every message going out.


my...@netscape.net wrote:

sorry Kaleb its me Harry. I'll change my email if it helps


Harry M
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Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net


Who is this person? Every post that goes thru the list gets bounced back to me 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, they all run inside but you can usually unhook it and hook it back 
without pulling the pan.  All you are doing is hooking the end of the 
cable over a little rod thing.


Steve MacSween wrote:

No, this one runs inside for sure.

Mac

on 1/7/09 19:49, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote:


Actually, the last several cables I have done did not require the pan to
be dropped at all, you can hook it from up top without dropping the pan.



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Re: [MBZ] 124 electrical weirdness

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

its a POS, I will buy it back from you.  You need a 300E.

OK Don wrote:

The '92 300D was sitting, undriven, for 5 or 6 days. I usually have a
solar charger plugged into the lighter socket when it's sitting (I
drive the 300Ds on alternating weeks), but didn't this time. So I get
in it to drive - and the battery is dead. It's about three years old,
perhaps less, but I don't know it's history before Kaleb and I traded
cars. So I plugged in the trickle charger, leave it on 30 hours or so,
and it starts right up, and runs fine.
It works fine like this for a couple of months, then this weekend the
same thing happened. I figure the battery is weak, and I'll get a new
one this weekend. Put the charger on it anyway, left it on for three
days. When to move the car this evening - it started right up, but the
idle is WAY low, and the tach doesn't work at all. So - is the crank
sensor disconnected? Where is it anyway?  All I did was
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Steve MacSween]

The visibility I find fine in driving, but I am tall and I think the narrow
windows probably work better for me than a shorter person. Parking lots at
night and/or in rain or snow mean you drive it like a van when backing up -
use the (excellent) mirrors as well as looking behind. The mirrors are the
best of any car I have ever driven, obviously developed to balance off the
narrow windows.

I really, really liked the Forester and came within a hair of buying one. I
was actually on the way to drive another one when I decided to visit a
dealer with a pile of ex-lease Chryslers on his lot for cheap. That was
that.

For a 2005 American car my Mag is in incredible shape. Would pass for brand
new to most people. Either Chrysler has improved its interior materials
vastly, or Chrysler corporate leasing spends major dollars on refurbishing
its returns before cycling them through the auction. The leather seats are
unmarked and uncreased, everything looks and works as new save a few
scratches on the chrome surround of the gear selector. Even the cargo area
is pristine.

mac

on 1/7/09 19:23, Scott Ritchey at ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:

> Good rundown on what's out there.  We went through a similar search last
> year.  SWMBO insisted on a wagon but didn't like the looks of the Magnum so
> I never drove it. How do you find visibility (CU criticized it)?  We
> eventually went with the Outback but it IS cramped, at least compared to the
> Sable wagon it replaced (but we are smallish).  Only scheduled MX to date.
> MPG (25.? actual) probably suffers from AWD.  Visibility out the back is
> poor, my main complaint.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Steve MacSween
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 00:49
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
> 
> Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO.
> 
> I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market.
> After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it.
> 
> The alternatives (all 2004-2007 models):
> 
> Ford Ranger (what I set out to buy): not enough headroom, BUMMER
> Subaru Forester: pricey for what you get, slightly cramped for me
> Subaru Outback: nice once I folded myself in two to get into it
> Volkswagen Passat: put me to sleep in 5 minutes
> Scion Van: kewl but unbearably cheap inside and you can hear every
> suspension movement every moment you drive
> Mazda 5: too cramped
> Volvo xc70: WOW best seats of any car anywhere, decent handling, scary
> repair stories so I ran away
> 300e: they are all scary movie time up here now, no decent ones left
> 300td: only decent one I have seen for months blew up (no joke) the day
> before I was to go see it
> Nissan Rogue: too cramped, nice package tho
> Dodge Caliber: Drove it as a rental for 3 weeks while I shopped. CVT sounds
> like a roto rooter half the time. Huge inside but I got tired of banging my
> head every time I got in, really quick.
> 
> You can start the flames now ;).
> 
> Mac
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Steve MacSween]

No, this one runs inside for sure.

Mac

on 1/7/09 19:49, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote:

> Actually, the last several cables I have done did not require the pan to
> be dropped at all, you can hook it from up top without dropping the pan.


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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Gary Hurst]

you read too much into this, gordon.  he is not making a moral valuation
between himself and someone else, but rather making a statement about
economic preferences.  he personally would rather not have $20 and not have
to change oil whereas another fella would rather have $20 and change oil
than not have $20 and not change oil.  it isn't about one guy being "better"
than the other.  maybe snook really likes old radios and woudl fix yours for
20 bucks, while the oil change guy wouldn't mess with it unless you paid him
a lot more.  woud you then say the oil change guy feels himself "superior"
to snook?



On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Snook wrote:
> > My time is worth a whole lot more than the $20 I would save in changing
> it myself.
>
> That is a rather cocky and arrogant statement for me to read.
> You are saying some people are worth the time to change oil?  I think
> all people are worth the time it takes to maintain an item rather than
> pay some "schmuck" to do the job - that type of thinking is what gets
> us into a 6 month cycle of spending $2 trillion for fixing something
> each of us should have fixed 8 years ago.
>
> Ah - I feel a bit fired up about the idiocy that some people are worth
> less money.  I am equally sick of the idiocy that all people should
> make it or that all people should be healthy.  What happened to
> diversity?  We are each different.  Some of us own cars that we can
> work on, and we share that opportunity with some that can't work on
> cars hence don't own cars - that sounds like a nice kulture.
>
> I read your comment as offensive, now I have returned the same back to
> you - I'm an idiot.  That is not news.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Not worth bothering with

[RELNGSON]

> ...I take no offense to the statement.  Simple economics, if you earn more 
> than it cost to pay someone to do a job you're not interested in doing, why 
> not? If you like to tinker, and enjoy changing oil, as many of us do, that's 
> a 
> different story.  If you're not all that interesting in changing oil, and 
> you're giving up an hours worth of work at $200 to mess about and save $20, 
> it 
> becomes a bit of a false economy.There's a difference between a hobby and 
> chore.  Hard to put a monetary value on a hobby, but it's easy to put one on 
> a 
> chore...
> 
Well stated and I agree completely. Another reason is that certain items just 
aren't worth doing if it's going to turn into an ordeal.

When I had my 300D, I changed the trans fluid once which was quite enough. 
Red fluid on me, on my clothes and the driveway with the car up on stands which 
of course meant dragging the jack out and lifting both sides first. And then 
there was the one time I changed the fuel filter on one of the 190Es. The 
damned thing is located, with the pump, under a panel forward of the LR wheel. 
Multiple wrenches required plus pinching off the lines (almost, as it turned 
out) 
and then trying to avoid the gas running down my arms.

I vowed after those two projects that somebody else would be taking care of 
them in the future. I've had a bit of experience disassembling entire cars for 
restoration and putting them back together 4-5 years later but some stuff I 
just won't do anymore.

Snook is right.

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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Gary Hurst]

back in the day, i was a strong believer in "you gotta fix your own car."
after many many minor injuries and many broken parts (including setting a
buick on fire), i concluded that i'm just too old for this shit and started
paying people to do it for me.

i used to also believe in being my own electrician, plumber, heating/ac guy,
etc.  i would spend days sorting out the problem, hurting myself and
breaking things all throughout the process.  and then after investing 30 or
so hours of labor and half fixing the problem, I proudly proclaimed myself
the manly man.

nowadays, i call "big john" from irish electric.  he is a master
electrician, both in fact and certification.  "big john" figures out and
repairs in 15 minutes what took me 30 hours, does it better than i did it
and doesn't break anything.

do i today feel less manly?  sure.  do i today feel more practical and
intelligent?  absolutely!

I have to agree with snook here.  in the end, if you can fix your car and
enjoy doing  it and it doesn't hurt you too badly and you don't spend
important time on it you should be spending on other things, then more power
to you as you are the manly man!  if, however, you can't meet the above
criteria it might just make more sense to hire someone to do it for you and
still drive an automobile rather than downgrading to a scooter or bicycle.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:

> Kaleb wrote: "Well I guess if you got to pay somebody to replace a shift
> cable on a
> 126 you probably should not own one."
>
> That's a ridiculous statement.  If you don't know how to work on a car, you
> shouldn't own one? Is that what you are saying?  Well, I guess that means
> there are MILLIONS of people who shouldn't own a car.  Keep in mind there
> are some things that are not worth the time to do instead of paying someone
> else. (What is the value of my time)  There are a lot of things on cars, I
> that I don't know how to do.  There are a lot of things that I could do, if
> I wanted to take the time.  There are also things that I do because 1. I
> know how to do them and 2. I enjoy doing the work on them.  But, your
> suggestion that because someone doesn't know how to do something, they
> shouldn't own it is crazy.
>
> I don't know how to replace the heat exchanger in my furnace, does that
> mean I shouldn't have one?  I can't don't know squat about being an
> electrician, should I cancel my power at my house?
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] A P-51 named February

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:44:49 EST relng...@aol.com wrote:

>  Forwarded from Bill Brandt;
> 
> A P-51 Named February
> 
>  This is really good, especially anyone with ties to WWII

> link:  http://www.grayeagles.org/video.htm 

Unfortunately, it stops about 40% of the way through for me.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 124 electrical weirdness

[Peter Frederick]

Replace the over-voltage protection relay, and fix your bad alternator.

Peter

On Jan 7, 2009, at 9:49 PM, OK Don wrote:


The '92 300D was sitting, undriven, for 5 or 6 days. I usually have a
solar charger plugged into the lighter socket when it's sitting (I
drive the 300Ds on alternating weeks), but didn't this time. So I get
in it to drive - and the battery is dead. It's about three years old,
perhaps less, but I don't know it's history before Kaleb and I traded
cars. So I plugged in the trickle charger, leave it on 30 hours or so,
and it starts right up, and runs fine.
It works fine like this for a couple of months, then this weekend the
same thing happened. I figure the battery is weak, and I'll get a new
one this weekend. Put the charger on it anyway, left it on for three
days. When to move the car this evening - it started right up, but the
idle is WAY low, and the tach doesn't work at all. So - is the crank
sensor disconnected? Where is it anyway?  All I did was
connect/disconnect the charger to the battery ---

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Re: [MBZ] OT CDL farm use, was Hay wagons

[Wonko the Sane]

There are farms in WV? I don't recall ever seeing many (or perhaps any?)
growing up there.

Where and what are they growing?

"Coal farms" don't count.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Kris Gilmore  wrote:

> t 04:57 PM 1/6/2009, Loren Faeth wrote:
>
>  Over 26,000 GVW you have to have a CDL.  It is not an state thing, it is
>> federal law.  There are no exceptions for farm use.
>>
>
> Just for the record, there is an exemption for farm use in many states.
>  For example, Section 17E - 1 - 8 of the WV code specifies that a person who
> trucks only his own farm supplies or products (i.e.,  not for hire) within
> 150 miles of the farm can apply for a CDL exemption.  I have one for my
> class 7 truck.
>
>
> Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
>
>
> Stages through which a new scientific theory passes:
>  1) This is worthless nonsense.
>  2) This is an interesting, but perverse, point of view.
>  3) This is true but quite unimportant.
>  4) I always said so.
>
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[MBZ] 124 electrical weirdness

[OK Don]

The '92 300D was sitting, undriven, for 5 or 6 days. I usually have a
solar charger plugged into the lighter socket when it's sitting (I
drive the 300Ds on alternating weeks), but didn't this time. So I get
in it to drive - and the battery is dead. It's about three years old,
perhaps less, but I don't know it's history before Kaleb and I traded
cars. So I plugged in the trickle charger, leave it on 30 hours or so,
and it starts right up, and runs fine.
It works fine like this for a couple of months, then this weekend the
same thing happened. I figure the battery is weak, and I'll get a new
one this weekend. Put the charger on it anyway, left it on for three
days. When to move the car this evening - it started right up, but the
idle is WAY low, and the tach doesn't work at all. So - is the crank
sensor disconnected? Where is it anyway?  All I did was
connect/disconnect the charger to the battery ---

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Re: [MBZ] Curt's 190D Wiper

[OK Don]

We did a CLA on my son's -87 300D - read the same instruactions about
some clips to remove the cover, that weren't there. We ended up taking
the whole wiper assembly, motor and all out of the car. Turn it over,
and you can get to the many screws that hold the cover on. Take the
cover off, and you can easily clean out all the old, hard grease,
replace with nice new grease, re-assemble, find that the wiper is off
15 or 20 degrees, hitting one side of the windshield frame, take it
out again, get it right the third time or so. You get pretty good at
removing the assembly by the time you're done.
MARK the position of the parts on the shafts BEFORE removing them!

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain
 wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Max Dillon  wrote:
>>  I haven't yet figured out how to get the cover off of my '87 wagon's wiper, 
>> but that is on the list of infrequent and non-factory maintenance that I 
>> want to get done.  Write-ups are out there, I think I tried one from 
>> Mercedesshop.com but apparently my wiper version is different.
>>
>
> One of the greatest mysteries in Mercedesdom is how to get the early
> 124 wiper transmissions apart!  I have a scrap one and have been
> planning to experiment with it and figure out a method.  The one on
> Mercedesshop refers to the later version with some kind of little
> catches that can be triggered to pop the cover off.  No such luck on
> the earlier ones.
>

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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[E M]

I take no offense to the statement.  Simple economics, if you earn more than
it cost to pay someone to do a job you're not interested in doing, why not?
If you like to tinker, and enjoy changing oil, as many of us do, that's a
different story.  If you're not all that interesting in changing oil, and
you're giving up an hours worth of work at $200 to mess about and save $20,
it becomes a bit of a false economy.

There's a difference between a hobby and chore.  Hard to put a monetary
value on a hobby, but it's easy to put one on a chore.

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Mountain Man 

> Snook wrote:
> > My time is worth a whole lot more than the $20 I would save in changing
> it myself.
>
> That is a rather cocky and arrogant statement for me to read.
> You are saying some people are worth the time to change oil?  I think
> all people are worth the time it takes to maintain an item rather than
> pay some "schmuck" to do the job - that type of thinking is what gets
> us into a 6 month cycle of spending $2 trillion for fixing something
> each of us should have fixed 8 years ago.
>
> Ah - I feel a bit fired up about the idiocy that some people are worth
> less money.  I am equally sick of the idiocy that all people should
> make it or that all people should be healthy.  What happened to
> diversity?  We are each different.  Some of us own cars that we can
> work on, and we share that opportunity with some that can't work on
> cars hence don't own cars - that sounds like a nice kulture.
>
> I read your comment as offensive, now I have returned the same back to
> you - I'm an idiot.  That is not news.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Transposing trumpet

[Luther]

Nice pictures.

"
Besides the funeral service I've played this in church a couple of times
for pieces that didn't have a Bb transcription. I've also played a bit
with Jill on the oboe, at home for fun. (Less of that than I'd like.)
"

Most trumpet players I know can transpose at sight ;)  My college
trumpet and I always play right out of the hymnal and improvise
descants, sometimes 2 descants at once.  The only times we don't is when
I actually put a descant/fanfare on paper.


Luther, trumpet, euphonium, tuba, horn, etc...

Jim Cathey wrote:
>> Pictures?
> 
> See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/horns.html
> 
> Look for the Couesnon C trumpet entry.  You'll have to
> imagine what 30-year-old dirty raw brass looked like, there
> are no before pictures.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] call center

[Luther]

Sorta.  When I need tire roadservice, I usually end up calling the
Goodyear place across the river.  They have all the direct cellphone
numbers for the shops.

Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> isnt that pretty much what you do except its truckers with broken down
> trucks?
> 
> Luther wrote:
>> Same with my town.  We have a call center for Experian and Goodyear
>> Tire Emergency Roadservice.  All locals pretending to sound foreign.
>>
>> Luther

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Re: Technical manual request (CPRM)

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:02:31 +1030 Hendrik & Fay 
wrote:

> Well I can tell you that the initial tightening torque of the connecting
> rod bolts is 10 nm less for used bolts but the final rotation is still 
> 90 degrees.
> I hope this helps.

I hope I don't need to use that information! :-)


> who is a fountain of knowledge but since the drought there is no water
> left

Cute.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] carbon out BS in and I better say it quick or the censors will catch up with me

[Rich Thomas]

Sounds like a really progressive place!

--R

Hendrik & Fay wrote:
Just another tax to show us that the Leaders of the world are doing 
their best to address whatever may be the problem, if there is a 
problem and if there actually is a problem, they will be ready to 
address it in the best manner fit by applying further taxes. Whilst 
happily roaming all over the place in their taxpayer funded 
transportation to spread more hot air.
Like our glorious Fuehrer swanning all over the globe thinking that 
people are actually interested in what he has to say. And when he 
actually is back home he does bugger all and what he he does is crap, 
like wanting to impose ISP level internet censorship to protect the 
good citizens of Oz from the evils of the www. Never mind that our 
only major river system is dying, protecting the citizens from porn is 
more important.


Hendrik

E M wrote:
Yup, CO2 labels seem to be stuck everywhere, from car ads in the UK 
to the

back of cig packs.

I'm still not sure what CO2 is, but everyone keeps telling me I make it,
it's bad for me and the planet, and I should stop.  I was then told, 
I could

buy a carbon credit, and my soul would be saved.

I don't know, I think everyone is wising up to the whole idea of buying
stuff you can't see or touch, on credit. hee hee.

Ed
300E
 
  



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[MBZ] Loctite Freeze and Release

[harry watkins]

I ordered two cans tonight.  I have just heard of it and will be doing a Toyota 
head gasket soon.  Has anyone used this?

Thanks 
Harry
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Mountain Man]

Snook wrote:
> My time is worth a whole lot more than the $20 I would save in changing it 
> myself.

That is a rather cocky and arrogant statement for me to read.
You are saying some people are worth the time to change oil?  I think
all people are worth the time it takes to maintain an item rather than
pay some "schmuck" to do the job - that type of thinking is what gets
us into a 6 month cycle of spending $2 trillion for fixing something
each of us should have fixed 8 years ago.

Ah - I feel a bit fired up about the idiocy that some people are worth
less money.  I am equally sick of the idiocy that all people should
make it or that all people should be healthy.  What happened to
diversity?  We are each different.  Some of us own cars that we can
work on, and we share that opportunity with some that can't work on
cars hence don't own cars - that sounds like a nice kulture.

I read your comment as offensive, now I have returned the same back to
you - I'm an idiot.  That is not news.
mao

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[MBZ] Previa

[Dan Weeks]

On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:30 PM, clay wrote:


When I got the van it has 101k on the clock already.  New tires and
fresh filters before I took it for a two week road trip through CA.
No issue but a strange oil filter error that a fresh filter solved.  I
think all the crap was dislodged when I put M1 in.

I have had the transmission filter replaced which also solved the pan
leak (new gasket) but that falls under normal care.  Fresh plugs, and
injectors after 50k on the clock.  Then I had the O2 error, which is
fixed by replacing them.  Nothing else has happened.  Kid barfs and
barfs in it, so it stinks, but that is not mechanical, except for the
kid.

It is standard 4 banger without SC, which was only an option after
1993.  I do not notice much lag or resistance, though mileage is at
best 22 highway. Has the towing package, so stays within temp up
grades and is able to haul loads to the dump just fine.



Good to know, Clay. My P.O. shows highway mileage maximum of 25+ mpg  
or so, average highway more like 22-23, so my guess is the AWD does  
make a bit of difference that way, but not much. Mine does not have a  
tow package, so I'll need to add a trans cooler and a trans fluid temp  
gauge before I do any serious towing. He just changed the oil, but  
from next change on it gets M1. Good to know about the filter error,  
I'll keep a spare filter and an oil change kit aboard for the first  
couple long trips after the M1 goes in, just in case.


Dan

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[MBZ] VW "minivan"/was Uplander

[Tony Wirtel]

>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uplander
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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><632eba9d0901071424v1c207e9dxeb674da26dcd9...@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> You're not alone Roger. They will stop making this model this year.
>
> Speaking of mini-vans, how about that VW advertising for their new
> "German Engineered" mini-van. Well, guess what, it's just a Chrysler
> mini-van with a different facia.
>
> How gulible is the average American anyway?
>

Apparently not QUITE that gullible, yet.  Talked to two VW dealers while
looking at Passat wagons and both said they're turds.  Each dealer was
sitting on over 10 of these turkeys.

I kinda wondered how VW would fare with these at a "VW premium" pricepoint
when Chrysler can't move them with several k $ in rebates and incentives.
Gotta love marketers!

Tony Wirtel
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Re: [MBZ] Curt's 190D Wiper

[Curt Raymond]

Done already I'm afraid. Had the wiper off this summer when the windshield was 
replaced. It needed a good dose of grease to get it back on.

I suspect the motor is mostly toast, however I'm still hopeful with new brushes 
and some internal lubrication. I don't remember it being all that hard to take 
the assembly off.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:33:06 -0600
From: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt's 190D Wiper
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Lubricate the sliding pin on the wiper arm with some nice synthetic  
grease.  Works wonders.

You don't need to remove anything, but do put a towel under the arm  
-- switch on the wiper and then turn the ignition off.  Manually move  
the wiper to the most extended position, then wipe a small amount of  
synthetic grease on the pin with your finger.  Don't get any on the  
windshield, of course.  Doesn't take much, and this usually does all  
the free-ing up you need.

If, however, the wiper has been dragging for a long time, the motor  
is probably overheated and the gears are worn, alas.

Peter


  
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kevin]

Don't know, but a 96 isn't in your current ranger's class...

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 05:35:09PM -0800, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Was it Snook that told me "The Ranger has the best in class fuel economy"?
> 
> Mine gets a rock solid 17mpg... I am SIGNIFICANTLY under impressed with that, 
> my '96 Dakota 5.2l v8 was getting 18mpg with runs up to 20mpg.
> 

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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Curt Raymond]

Was it Snook that told me "The Ranger has the best in class fuel economy"?

Mine gets a rock solid 17mpg... I am SIGNIFICANTLY under impressed with that, 
my '96 Dakota 5.2l v8 was getting 18mpg with runs up to 20mpg.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:23:39 -0500
From: "Scott Ritchey" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
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Good rundown on what's out there.  We went through a similar search last
year.  SWMBO insisted on a wagon but didn't like the looks of the Magnum so
I never drove it. How do you find visibility (CU criticized it)?  We
eventually went with the Outback but it IS cramped, at least compared to the
Sable wagon it replaced (but we are smallish).  Only scheduled MX to date.
MPG (25.? actual) probably suffers from AWD.  Visibility out the back is
poor, my main complaint.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Steve MacSween
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 00:49
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO.

I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market.
After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it.

The alternatives (all 2004-2007 models):

Ford Ranger (what I set out to buy): not enough headroom, BUMMER


  
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Re: [MBZ] A P-51 named February

[Wilton Strickland]

'Sure made tears come to MY eyes.  Even with 5 khrs in B-52's that always
brought me safely back home, the P-51 is still my favorite airplane.

Wilton

- Original Message -
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Subject: [MBZ] A P-51 named February


Forwarded from Bill Brandt;

A P-51 Named February

This is really good, especially anyone with ties to WWII

-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-**-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-**-*-*-*-*-

A P-51 Named February

Well worth watching & checking the links on the
homepage.. I sat here with a smile through most of it and
ended up with tears rolling down my face. A very special
video here!
Please take the time after the show and look around check
everything out you will love it.
We should never forget the one's who fought for our
>freedom.
This is a tribute to the Gray Eagles (WWII pilots) was in
conjunction with an air show in Ohio called "The Final Roundup."
Which was the last large gathering of the remaining P-51 Mustang
fighters used during WWII. There were about 120 of the
fighters there all of them in flying condition, of course. The flyover seen
at
the end of the video is composed entirely of P51s spelling out the number
51..

It was an event that may never be seen again.

link: http://www.grayeagles.org/video.htm
Turn up the sound



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Re: [MBZ] Had a peek at a GM today, and was impressed.

[Mountain Man]

Mac wrote:
> Here is one example I just pulled up off our Trader site:

Look what the snowy north kountry brought in!!
Steve McSween - a blast from the past.
Did you just check in? - or have you been here for a while and I just
checked in?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

[Loren Faeth]

If you choose to backup all, it does.  You can choose to backup 
whatever you want backed up.  in general, you are wasting space to 
back up the OS and software.  You want to back up your files and 
folders and the system state.


When your HD bombs, you put in a new one, install the os, then 
restore from BU.  It puts everything back where it was.  If you back 
up the OS, and then restore that,  you will have problems unless you 
replace the HD with the exact same size/model.  Besides, you want 
to  always start with a clean install.


I prefer to put the OS and software on C:\ and put all data on 
d:\  That way I back up D: and System state and I am done.  I do it 
the same on all computers.  At times, you can reinstall the OS on C: 
and not bother the data on D:  It DOES NOT work if you have converted 
your HD from a basic disk to a dynamic disk.  The only way to restore 
a dynamic disk is to wipe the entire physical drive.  The safest way 
is to install a PCI drive controller card and a second HD for your 
data.  That way, if the problem wipes out the HD controller, 
generally all drives have to be wiped.  With the second controller, 
you might loose your OS or your Data but not both.  But, I never do 
that.  Sometimes I use 2 drives and sometimes only one with 2 
partitions.  But I have never had the luxury of a second drive 
controller. (except in some servers built with IDE OS drives and SCSI 
data drives.)


At 06:54 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote:

Does that make an exact copy of your drive or just backup certain things?

Loren Faeth wrote:

In Windows:
GO to Start then programs
then accessories
then system tools
then backup
that launches the backup program.  CHoose to configure it manually, 
and in the process, you can schedule backups
with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you 
sleep, or once a week or whatever you want.  DO back up "system 
state" as that will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure.
Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software.  I 
prefer to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same 
regardless of what/where i backup to.

At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote:

I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP.

I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto
backup the 2 PC and one Laptop.

Is this possible to do?  Software?


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Re: [MBZ] PREVIA AWD

[Redghost]

When I got the van it has 101k on the clock already.  New tires and  
fresh filters before I took it for a two week road trip through CA.   
No issue but a strange oil filter error that a fresh filter solved.  I  
think all the crap was dislodged when I put M1 in.


I have had the transmission filter replaced which also solved the pan  
leak (new gasket) but that falls under normal care.  Fresh plugs, and  
injectors after 50k on the clock.  Then I had the O2 error, which is  
fixed by replacing them.  Nothing else has happened.  Kid barfs and  
barfs in it, so it stinks, but that is not mechanical, except for the  
kid.


It is standard 4 banger without SC, which was only an option after  
1993.  I do not notice much lag or resistance, though mileage is at  
best 22 highway. Has the towing package, so stays within temp up  
grades and is able to haul loads to the dump just fine.


clay

On Jan 7, 2009, at 6:45 AM, Dan Weeks wrote:



On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Clay wrote:


I have found that AWD is night and day for handling in the previa.
there is a hill I climb that it just grips and goes.


Good to know in case I ever upgrade. Does yours have the  
supercharger, too?


All the AWD cars I've ever driven (not many, admittedly) have had a  
lot of roll resistance, which is why I wasn't keen on it.  
ALso,becuase of the added weight and maintenance, given that I  
bought an 18-year-old one.


What was the big repair yours needed? Separated Accessories  
Driveshaft? Transfer case?


Dan



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[MBZ] '42 vehicles

[Wilton Strickland]

'Just saw most of a mid-40's or so movie with William Holden plus 2 '42
Fords, a '42 Mercury, a '42 Cadillac and a '42 Dodge.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT Laptop problem

[Curt Raymond]

I replaced the powersupply in my main PC yesterday as it was making noise when 
I powered the system up.

Turns out the noise (which sounds for the whole world like a bad fan bearing) 
is from the cdrom drive... Fortunately I have a spare.

The replaced power supply can go back to the machine it came from. This machine 
had one fail some time ago, I pulled the PS out of the other machine for this 
one.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:03:18 -0500
From: "E M" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Laptop problem
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I hate to say anything, but in all the years I've used computers, (about
25-30), I was only let down once, and that was an on button on a Mac power
supply.  The power supply worked, but the button wouldn't stay "clicked
on".

Now watch, the whole pc will blow up later tonight!! lol

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Curt Raymond 

> Dust buildup is all hell on laptops. A couple times a year I field strip
> mine as best I can, pull the optical drive, batteries and fan off and blow
> everything out good with canned air. Seems to work well I've never had any
> big issues other than the time I broke the K key on my Dell...
>
> -Curt
>


  
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Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Does that make an exact copy of your drive or just backup certain things?

Loren Faeth wrote:

In Windows:
GO to Start then programs
then accessories
then system tools
then backup
that launches the backup program.  CHoose to configure it manually, and 
in the process, you can schedule backups
with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you sleep, or 
once a week or whatever you want.  DO back up "system state" as that 
will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure.


Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software.  I prefer 
to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same regardless 
of what/where i backup to.


At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote:

I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP.

I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto
backup the 2 PC and one Laptop.

Is this possible to do?  Software?


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Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

[Loren Faeth]

In Windows:
GO to Start then programs
then accessories
then system tools
then backup
that launches the backup program.  CHoose to configure it manually, 
and in the process, you can schedule backups
with that, you can schedule it to backup every night while you sleep, 
or once a week or whatever you want.  DO back up "system state" as 
that will help to recover if you have a hard drive failure.


Most USB drives also come with some form of backup software.  I 
prefer to let the builtin backup do the work, as it stays the same 
regardless of what/where i backup to.


At 05:43 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote:

I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP.

I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto
backup the 2 PC and one Laptop.

Is this possible to do?  Software?


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Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Actually, the last several cables I have done did not require the pan to 
be dropped at all, you can hook it from up top without dropping the pan.


Steve MacSween wrote:

on 1/7/09 17:52, Kevin Kraly at kr...@comcast.net wrote:


The adjuster is broken on mine.  The piece on the housing that threads in is
broken off, but there are threads further up.  I was going to try to fix it
or modify it to make it work properly.  The cable itself is fine.  What is
involved in changing the cable?


The cable connects inside the tranny. You have to drop the pan to connect
the tranny end.

By the way, this brings up another issue with living with older MBs as daily
transport. The first cable the shop got was the wrong one.

This happened over and over and over to me with this w126. They ask for the
VIN and I still got the wrong parts over and over.

Also just as a point of interest, WorldPac has delisted (or are showing
permanent backorder on) a LOT of parts in Canada that are still available
stateside. So I was running into problems in that department too.

For example, I had to buy my rear subframe bushings off eBay. Or pay almost
$400 at the local dealer.

Mac


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[MBZ] A P-51 named February

[RELNGSON]

 Forwarded from Bill Brandt;

A P-51 Named February

 This is really good, especially anyone with ties to WWII

-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-**-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-**-*-*-*-*-

A P-51 Named February
 
Well worth watching & checking the links on the
 homepage.. I sat here with a smile through most of it and
 ended up with tears rolling down my face. A very special
 video here!
Please take the time after the show and look around check
 everything out you will love it.
 We should never forget the one's who fought for our
>freedom.
 This is a tribute to the Gray Eagles (WWII pilots) was in
 conjunction with an air show in Ohio called "The Final Roundup."
 Which was the last large gathering of the remaining P-51 Mustang
 fighters used during WWII. There were about 120 of the
 fighters there all of  them in flying condition, of course. The flyover seen 
at
 the end of the video is composed entirely of P51s spelling out the number 
51..
 
It was an event that may never be seen again.
 
link:  http://www.grayeagles.org/video.htm 
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Re: [MBZ] carbon out BS in and I better say it quick or the censors will catch up with me

[Hendrik & Fay]

Just another tax to show us that the Leaders of the world are doing 
their best to address whatever may be the problem, if there is a problem 
and if there actually is a problem, they will be ready to address it in 
the best manner fit by applying further taxes. Whilst happily roaming 
all over the place in their taxpayer funded transportation to spread 
more hot air.
Like our glorious Fuehrer swanning all over the globe thinking that 
people are actually interested in what he has to say. And when he 
actually is back home he does bugger all and what he he does is crap, 
like wanting to impose ISP level internet censorship to protect the good 
citizens of Oz from the evils of the www. Never mind that our only major 
river system is dying, protecting the citizens from porn is more important.


Hendrik

E M wrote:

Yup, CO2 labels seem to be stuck everywhere, from car ads in the UK to the
back of cig packs.

I'm still not sure what CO2 is, but everyone keeps telling me I make it,
it's bad for me and the planet, and I should stop.  I was then told, I could
buy a carbon credit, and my soul would be saved.

I don't know, I think everyone is wising up to the whole idea of buying
stuff you can't see or touch, on credit. hee hee.

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Curt's 190D Wiper

[Peter Frederick]

Lubricate the sliding pin on the wiper arm with some nice synthetic  
grease.  Works wonders.


You don't need to remove anything, but do put a towel under the arm  
-- switch on the wiper and then turn the ignition off.  Manually move  
the wiper to the most extended position, then wipe a small amount of  
synthetic grease on the pin with your finger.  Don't get any on the  
windshield, of course.  Doesn't take much, and this usually does all  
the free-ing up you need.


If, however, the wiper has been dragging for a long time, the motor  
is probably overheated and the gears are worn, alas.


Peter

On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:45 PM, casi...@usermail.com wrote:

I was up in Oregon visting friends for the snow storm a few weeks  
ago, and
also noticed that the colder the weather got, the slower my 190DTs  
wiper
would go. Now that I'm back in southern Cali (where it hardly ever  
rains)

the wiper is nice and fast again!

I did notice that some of the electrical components (switch, fuse,  
etc)
were getting warm also when the wiper was going slower, so it's  
hard to
tell cause an effect. Was the wiper going slower because these  
components

have corrosion and too much resistance, or were the components getting
warm because the wiper was pulling more current to keep moving when  
it's

lubricants were turning solid? Who knows...

I've gotta say though, this 190DT is an incredible high speed  
freeway car.
I got over 30mpg on a 2,000+ mile trip, mostly cruising at  
85-90mph! If
only the Cali SUV drivers would realize that you can't tailgate a  
Mercedes
with anti-lock brakes and grippy tires at 90mph and expect to stop  
as fast

as them in an emergency...

Tyler

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Max Dillon  




It's definitely a maintenance job that needs to be done now and then,
even if the factory didn't anticipate it.  I was really disappointed
with the sluggish action of my '87s monowiper during consistently
below-freezing weather the past few weeks here in Oregon---I imagine
the old grease in there must be congealing like bacon fat in the  
cold.

 As with many things, some kind of synthetic lubricant with a flatter
viscosity-temperature curve would be a definite improvement.

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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Scott Ritchey]

Good rundown on what's out there.  We went through a similar search last
year.  SWMBO insisted on a wagon but didn't like the looks of the Magnum so
I never drove it. How do you find visibility (CU criticized it)?  We
eventually went with the Outback but it IS cramped, at least compared to the
Sable wagon it replaced (but we are smallish).  Only scheduled MX to date.
MPG (25.? actual) probably suffers from AWD.  Visibility out the back is
poor, my main complaint.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Steve MacSween
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 00:49
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO.

I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market.
After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it.

The alternatives (all 2004-2007 models):

Ford Ranger (what I set out to buy): not enough headroom, BUMMER
Subaru Forester: pricey for what you get, slightly cramped for me
Subaru Outback: nice once I folded myself in two to get into it
Volkswagen Passat: put me to sleep in 5 minutes
Scion Van: kewl but unbearably cheap inside and you can hear every
suspension movement every moment you drive
Mazda 5: too cramped
Volvo xc70: WOW best seats of any car anywhere, decent handling, scary
repair stories so I ran away
300e: they are all scary movie time up here now, no decent ones left
300td: only decent one I have seen for months blew up (no joke) the day
before I was to go see it
Nissan Rogue: too cramped, nice package tho
Dodge Caliber: Drove it as a rental for 3 weeks while I shopped. CVT sounds
like a roto rooter half the time. Huge inside but I got tired of banging my
head every time I got in, really quick.

You can start the flames now ;).

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior

[Hendrik & Fay]

I owned a 201 with off white interior and did not really find it a 
problem, as long as I kept a bottle of fabric cleaner handy.


Hendrik

casi...@usermail.com wrote:

I like them because you don't notice the grease smudges I accidently make
on the interior while working on the car.

Tyler

  


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Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior

[Hendrik & Fay]

Most Oz MB's are tex or leather, then along came the peasant mobile 
called the 180E. Complete with fabric interior as standard, from there 
it spread across to the 124.
I have nothing much against fabric interiors, specially on a hot day but 
MB came up with some real shockers, I think they even have their own 
tartan pattern called McBenz.


Hendrik
with tex in the Benz

E M wrote:

I'm not sure I've ever seen a W124 with anything other than MB Tex or
leather here.  We had an entry level C Class for a couple of years, that
sported a similar cloth interior, but I think most were black or charcoal.

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] German engineered

[Steve MacSween]

on 1/7/09 18:34, relng...@aol.com at relng...@aol.com wrote:

> Problem is, a lot of their ideas were at the other end
> of the scale, and the customers paid the price. A policy I have referred to as
> "The Customer-Financed Field Testing Program".

OH YEAH. VW still seems to do it as a regular biz practice.

The Europeans really, really need to get their automotive act together soon
or they will lose what they still have of the north american market.

They make the best driving cars, but the headaches over the longer term just
aren't worth it.

To me, ownership of any post-w124 Benz as a used vehicle (not under a
warranty) is a laudable act of bravery :)

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] Greenie

[Hendrik & Fay]

What do you mean by "far fewer component replacements"?

Hendrik
who is replacing a few components in the 360,000Ks 124

relng...@aol.com wrote:
..I don't think anyone has the right to use more of the earths resources 
than they need just because they can afford to, and are too lazy to do 
otherwise



It seems to have escaped your notice that the newest MBs use half the fuel 
the older ones did and require far fewer component replacements which I do 
believe are manufactured from resources.


Now, if I lived in a hut out in the veldt someplace, I would want a basic 
vehicle that I might be able revive on my own.


Probably a Land Cruiser.

RLE
  


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Re: [MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Steve MacSween]

on 1/7/09 17:52, Kevin Kraly at kr...@comcast.net wrote:

> The adjuster is broken on mine.  The piece on the housing that threads in is
> broken off, but there are threads further up.  I was going to try to fix it
> or modify it to make it work properly.  The cable itself is fine.  What is
> involved in changing the cable?

The cable connects inside the tranny. You have to drop the pan to connect
the tranny end.

By the way, this brings up another issue with living with older MBs as daily
transport. The first cable the shop got was the wrong one.

This happened over and over and over to me with this w126. They ask for the
VIN and I still got the wrong parts over and over.

Also just as a point of interest, WorldPac has delisted (or are showing
permanent backorder on) a LOT of parts in Canada that are still available
stateside. So I was running into problems in that department too.

For example, I had to buy my rear subframe bushings off eBay. Or pay almost
$400 at the local dealer.

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

[Scott Ritchey]

I went with a Hammer Myshare (1.5T) and I've been pleased.  Pretty quiet and
less expensive than most NAS I've seen. I use Acronis backup software but
being anal I also backup to Carbonite on the web.


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of LWB250
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 18:53
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

One  word (acronym):

NAS

Network Attached Storage


Plenty of choices out there for NAS, and most are pretty much plug and pray.
You just need an ethernet jack on your switch or router and you're ready to
go for the most part.

If you need more details, let me know.

Dan

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Peter Arnold  wrote:

> From: Peter Arnold 
> Subject: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:43 PM
> I have a WiFi net work at home, run
> WinXP.
> 
> I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and
> configure to auto
> backup the 2 PC and one Laptop.
> 
> Is this possible to do?  Software?
> 
> 
> --
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> Ultracast, LLC
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> (860) 253-5015
> 
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> F. Kettering
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Re: [MBZ] carbon

[E M]

Yup, CO2 labels seem to be stuck everywhere, from car ads in the UK to the
back of cig packs.

I'm still not sure what CO2 is, but everyone keeps telling me I make it,
it's bad for me and the planet, and I should stop.  I was then told, I could
buy a carbon credit, and my soul would be saved.

I don't know, I think everyone is wising up to the whole idea of buying
stuff you can't see or touch, on credit. hee hee.

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 

> > ...I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find
> their
> > way onto
> > the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage
> >
> I concur. But carbon emissions in cars is becoming an issue with the
> politicians. If you read most any car ad in a UK magazine, CO2 numbers are
> more
> prominent than gas mileage because there is now a tax on it. Even Porsche
> has just
> announced that future engines will have greatly reduced CO2 output.
>
> My new copy of Auto motor und Sport has a two page spread advertising the
> new
> Audi Q5 and down at the bottom with the fuel economy numbers (3.0 diesel)
> it
> says "Emission in g/km combined 175-199. Reading further, It reads "has the
> 7-speed double clutch S-tronic transmission." Much nicer looking than the
> GLK
> and better technology, looks like.
>
> RLE
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

[dave walton]

*Hardware:*
SATA USB Docking station $37:
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Sata-HDD-Docking-Station/dp/B0012Z3MKW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1231372054&sr=8-2
Bare drive snaps in connector side down. No screws.

1.5 Tb SATA Drive $129:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Hard+Drives-_-Seagate-_-22148337

*Software:*
Not automatic, but the price is right (free for home use)
DriveImageXML
http://runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm
Works okay with Vista, XP & Win2003.
Load onto Bart-PE boot CD for bare metal restore.

-Dave Walton

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Peter Arnold  wrote:

> I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP.
>
> I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto
> backup the 2 PC and one Laptop.
>
> Is this possible to do?  Software?
>
>
> --
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> Ultracast, LLC
> 199 Freshwater Blvd.
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> (860) 253-5015
>
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Re: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

[LWB250]

One  word (acronym):

NAS

Network Attached Storage


Plenty of choices out there for NAS, and most are pretty much plug and pray.  
You just need an ethernet jack on your switch or router and you're ready to go 
for the most part.

If you need more details, let me know.

Dan

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Peter Arnold  wrote:

> From: Peter Arnold 
> Subject: [MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:43 PM
> I have a WiFi net work at home, run
> WinXP.
> 
> I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and
> configure to auto
> backup the 2 PC and one Laptop.
> 
> Is this possible to do?  Software?
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Peter T. Arnold, Quality Mgr.
> Ultracast, LLC
> 199 Freshwater Blvd.
> Enfield, CT 06082
> (860) 253-5015
> 
> "A problem well stated is a problem half solved." - Charles
> F. Kettering
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[E M]

Oh, I forgot about all the support vehicles.  Better hire on some more
people so the purchase of more hybrid ethanol powered electric Smart cars
and be justified.  We gotta get this carbon thing all balanced somehow, even
if only on the books. lol  All that double entry accounting is making my
head hurt.

What's that old saying, "If you can't dazzle them with your brains, baffle
them with your bullxxxt".  ;-)  A tried and proven formula for many
politicians over the years.

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Wilton Strickland 

> And the FLEET of LARGE jet aircraft and guzzler RBV's (Ridiculously Big
> Vihicles - SUV's) that go with him on every trip.  'Gotta be 'bout the
> biggest carbon footprint for an "individual" in the world.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "E M" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Beast!
>
>
> > The Gov plans to buy 600,000 Smart cars for it's new employees to offset
> the
> > carbon footprint of the official Presidential Limo. lol
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > 2009/1/7 Rich Thomas 
> >
> > > They will be capped and traded out.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > > Mitch Haley wrote:
> > >
> > >> Rich Thomas wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Wow, think of the carbon footprint.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find
> their
> > >> way onto the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage.
> > >>
> > >> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] carbon

[RELNGSON]

> ...I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find their 
> way onto
> the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage
> 
I concur. But carbon emissions in cars is becoming an issue with the 
politicians. If you read most any car ad in a UK magazine, CO2 numbers are more 
prominent than gas mileage because there is now a tax on it. Even Porsche has 
just 
announced that future engines will have greatly reduced CO2 output.

My new copy of Auto motor und Sport has a two page spread advertising the new 
Audi Q5 and down at the bottom with the fuel economy numbers (3.0 diesel) it 
says "Emission in g/km combined 175-199. Reading further, It reads "has the 
7-speed double clutch S-tronic transmission." Much nicer looking than the GLK 
and better technology, looks like.

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Re: [MBZ] Uplander

[E M]

Well, VW didn't know what to do with all their really nice oily bits, so
they decided to stick them all under a Bentley badgge and charge double what
they had previously for them.  Guess all they had left over were big VW
badgets, so sticking them on a bunch of Chrysler minivans was as good an
idea as any. :-)

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 John Freer 

> You're not alone Roger. They will stop making this model this year.
>
> Speaking of mini-vans, how about that VW advertising for their new
> "German Engineered" mini-van. Well, guess what, it's just a Chrysler
> mini-van with a different facia.
>
> How gulible is the average American anyway?
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:16 PM,   wrote:
> > My Lord, what a depressing vehicle. Styled like a potato, dismal
> interior,
> > probably handles like a waterbed on casters.
> >
> > If I had to own one of these things, I think I'd kill myself.
> >
> > RLE
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[Rich Thomas]

That'll help the Daimler bailout!

--R

E M wrote:

The Gov plans to buy 600,000 Smart cars for it's new employees to offset the
carbon footprint of the official Presidential Limo. lol

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Rich Thomas 

  

They will be capped and traded out.

--R


Mitch Haley wrote:



Rich Thomas wrote:

  

Wow, think of the carbon footprint.



I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find their
way onto the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] O/T BAck up Harddrive

[Peter Arnold]

I have a WiFi net work at home, run WinXP.

I'd like to buy one of the plug in hard drives and configure to auto
backup the 2 PC and one Laptop.

Is this possible to do?  Software?


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Re: [MBZ] Uplander

[E M]

yeah, I know, not long ago I seem to remember saying with regards to all
minivan ownership, "life hasn't come to that yet".  Well, seems it just
arrived. lol

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 

> My Lord, what a depressing vehicle. Styled like a potato, dismal interior,
> probably handles like a waterbed on casters.
>
> If I had to own one of these things, I think I'd kill myself.
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

well his mail is fixing to be turned off again

Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Who is this person?  


Harry M
69 280 SE
72 350 SL
08 VW Passat 3.6

He's replied to the dead laptop thread a couple of times in the last day 
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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[Wilton Strickland]

And the FLEET of LARGE jet aircraft and guzzler RBV's (Ridiculously Big
Vihicles - SUV's) that go with him on every trip.  'Gotta be 'bout the
biggest carbon footprint for an "individual" in the world.

Wilton

- Original Message -
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Beast!


> The Gov plans to buy 600,000 Smart cars for it's new employees to offset
the
> carbon footprint of the official Presidential Limo. lol
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> 2009/1/7 Rich Thomas 
>
> > They will be capped and traded out.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > Mitch Haley wrote:
> >
> >> Rich Thomas wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow, think of the carbon footprint.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find their
> >> way onto the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage.
> >>
> >> Mitch.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] German engineered

[E M]

 Ahh, so you do have first hand experience with Porsche's R&D department.
hee hee.  I did my share of helping them sort out their early problems with
exploding air boxes. ;-)

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior

[Wilton Strickland]

I don't mind brown leather in a 911.  ;<))   BTW, I do have Palomino
leather in my black 126; had Palomino MB tex in my ivory '81 123.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior


> Brown works well in the old 911 when hot footing it around, but for very
> different reasons!!  hee hee. ;-)
>
> Ed
> 911SC
>
> 2009/1/7 
>
> > I like them because you don't notice the grease smudges I accidently
make
> > on the interior while working on the car.
> >
> > Tyler
> >
> > > Guess everyone is different but I dislike dark interiors, they are not
> > > inviting and add a claustrophobic atmosphere to the inside.
> > > A couple of weeks ago I looked at an 220E to replace my Mum's 190E.
> > >
> >
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCEDES/E220/details.aspx?R=654
2483&__sid=11DB9F1D99FE&__Qpb=true&Make=MERCEDES&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|
1||pCar_Price_Decimal|0&__N=1090%20408%20901%20834%20285%20258%20287%201216&
State=South%20Australia&distance=25&silo=1000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&s
tate_id=85&PriceMax=1<http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCED
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000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&state_id=85&PriceMax=1>
> > > Nice exterior color but the interior...looked like something
> > > from the 70's.
> > >
> > > Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] German engineered

[RELNGSON]

> ..Speaking of mini-vans, how about that VW advertising for their new 
> "German Engineered" mini-van. Well, guess what, it's just a Chrysler mini-van 
> with 
> a different facia
> 
I think that term has some effect on those who have never really been exposed 
to the not-so-hot German engineering because I have spent good money on a 
good bit of it, hidden in a Mercedes body. 

In the olden days, German engineering could take the well earned credit for 
the ME-262, the Bf109e, the V-1, the SSK and SSKL, the Porsche 356 and plenty 
of other like examples. Problem is, a lot of their ideas were at the other end 
of the scale, and the customers paid the price. A policy I have referred to as 
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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[E M]

The Gov plans to buy 600,000 Smart cars for it's new employees to offset the
carbon footprint of the official Presidential Limo. lol

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Rich Thomas 

> They will be capped and traded out.
>
> --R
>
>
> Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, think of the carbon footprint.
>>>
>>
>> I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find their
>> way onto the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage.
>>
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Re: Technical manual request (CPRM)

[Hendrik & Fay]

Well I can tell you that the initial tightening torque of the connecting 
rod bolts is 10 nm less for used bolts but the final rotation is still 
90 degrees.

I hope this helps.

Hendrik
who is a fountain of knowledge but since the drought there is no water left

Craig McCluskey wrote:

I tried going to Mercedes to get repair manuals for my '94 E420 and found
I couldn't, so I sent in a comment:


Vehicle Information:
  VIN: WDBEA34E2RC126008

Comments:
  I tried looking for repair manuals for my car at
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/#/technicalManuals , but the web page
apparently does not work with my browser -- when I click on the red search
button, nothing happens. What manuals are available? Are they paper or CD?
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Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior

[E M]

Brown works well in the old 911 when hot footing it around, but for very
different reasons!!  hee hee. ;-)

Ed
911SC

2009/1/7 

> I like them because you don't notice the grease smudges I accidently make
> on the interior while working on the car.
>
> Tyler
>
> > Guess everyone is different but I dislike dark interiors, they are not
> > inviting and add a claustrophobic atmosphere to the inside.
> > A couple of weeks ago I looked at an 220E to replace my Mum's 190E.
> >
> http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCEDES/E220/details.aspx?R=6542483&__sid=11DB9F1D99FE&__Qpb=true&Make=MERCEDES&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|0&__N=1090%20408%20901%20834%20285%20258%20287%201216&State=South%20Australia&distance=25&silo=1000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&state_id=85&PriceMax=1<http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCEDES/E220/details.aspx?R=6542483&__sid=11DB9F1D99FE&__Qpb=true&Make=MERCEDES&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_Price_Decimal%7C0&__N=1090%20408%20901%20834%20285%20258%20287%201216&State=South%20Australia&distance=25&silo=1000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&state_id=85&PriceMax=1>
> > Nice exterior color but the interior...looked like something
> > from the 70's.
> >
> > Hendrik
>
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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[Rich Thomas]

They will be capped and traded out.

--R

Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:

Wow, think of the carbon footprint.


I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find 
their way onto the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage.


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Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior

[casioqv]

I like them because you don't notice the grease smudges I accidently make
on the interior while working on the car.

Tyler

> Guess everyone is different but I dislike dark interiors, they are not
> inviting and add a claustrophobic atmosphere to the inside.
> A couple of weeks ago I looked at an 220E to replace my Mum's 190E.
> http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCEDES/E220/details.aspx?R=6542483&__sid=11DB9F1D99FE&__Qpb=true&Make=MERCEDES&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|0&__N=1090%20408%20901%20834%20285%20258%20287%201216&State=South%20Australia&distance=25&silo=1000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&state_id=85&PriceMax=1
> Nice exterior color but the interior...looked like something
> from the 70's.
>
> Hendrik


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Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior

[E M]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a W124 with anything other than MB Tex or
leather here.  We had an entry level C Class for a couple of years, that
sported a similar cloth interior, but I think most were black or charcoal.

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Hendrik & Fay 

> Guess everyone is different but I dislike dark interiors, they are not
> inviting and add a claustrophobic atmosphere to the inside.
> A couple of weeks ago I looked at an 220E to replace my Mum's 190E.
> http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCEDES/E220/details.aspx?R=6542483&__sid=11DB9F1D99FE&__Qpb=true&Make=MERCEDES&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|0&__N=1090%20408%20901%20834%20285%20258%20287%201216&State=South%20Australia&distance=25&silo=1000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&state_id=85&PriceMax=1<http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCEDES/E220/details.aspx?R=6542483&__sid=11DB9F1D99FE&__Qpb=true&Make=MERCEDES&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_Price_Decimal%7C0&__N=1090%20408%20901%20834%20285%20258%20287%201216&State=South%20Australia&distance=25&silo=1000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&state_id=85&PriceMax=1>
> Nice exterior color but the interior...looked like something from
> the 70's.
>
> Hendrik
>
> Wilton Strickland wrote:
>
>> I LOVE brown leather.  Wear it on my feet nearly every day; sit in/on it a
>> lot every day and night.  Send it on!  ;<)
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Cars and status of the poo brown interior

[Hendrik & Fay]

Guess everyone is different but I dislike dark interiors, they are not 
inviting and add a claustrophobic atmosphere to the inside.
A couple of weeks ago I looked at an 220E to replace my Mum's 190E. 
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/MERCEDES/E220/details.aspx?R=6542483&__sid=11DB9F1D99FE&__Qpb=true&Make=MERCEDES&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|0&__N=1090%20408%20901%20834%20285%20258%20287%201216&State=South%20Australia&distance=25&silo=1000&seot=0&Cr=0&__Nne=20&trecs=7&state_id=85&PriceMax=1
Nice exterior color but the interior...looked like something 
from the 70's.


Hendrik

Wilton Strickland wrote:

I LOVE brown leather.  Wear it on my feet nearly every day; sit in/on it a
lot every day and night.  Send it on!  ;<)

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Re: [MBZ] intermarriages

[John Freer]

Since when did the Pacifica have a box frame like the M  did? No, it
was based purely on the Chrysler mini-van unibody construction.

Only shared designs were the Chysleler/Dodge sedans based on the old
210 and the Crossfire on the first generation SLK without the 4
cylinder tractor engine.
John

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:01 PM,   wrote:
>> ..This is what MB was doing with Chrysler. The Pacific was based on the
>> first-gen M class, the Crossfire on the first CLK...
>>
> SLK. The one with no legroom.
>
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kevin Kraly]

I've got some old Craftsman jack stands that my dad gave me , the type with 
the pin that can be put into different holes for height adjustment.  He's 
got some 15 year old cheapies, the type that you lift up and they lock in 
place.  They fall back down with one push on the release handle.  These are 
a lot easier to put into place under the car since you just lift them up 
into position, but I think 'll just stick with the pin type stands and 
ramps.


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Re: [MBZ] Greenie

[RELNGSON]

> ..I don't think anyone has the right to use more of the earths resources 
> than they need just because they can afford to, and are too lazy to do 
> otherwise
> 
It seems to have escaped your notice that the newest MBs use half the fuel 
the older ones did and require far fewer component replacements which I do 
believe are manufactured from resources.

Now, if I lived in a hut out in the veldt someplace, I would want a basic 
vehicle that I might be able revive on my own.

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Re: [MBZ] intermarriages

[RELNGSON]

> ..This is what MB was doing with Chrysler. The Pacific was based on the
> first-gen M class, the Crossfire on the first CLK...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Snow Tires was Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kevin]

The problem I had in that regard was finding a set that was both decent off
road AND was not load range C. Lots of 1/2 ton sport utilities use that tire
size.

My 05 dodge has load range E BFG All terrain KOs in that size, but even though
they have the snowflake rating, they're a bit hard for a place that sees a lot
of snow and ice. When I looked (a year and a half ago, I think), there were
exactly six load range E tires that size, and the BFG was the only one
that was both all terrain and not complete garbage. Hopefully you'll have
better luck.

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 02:48:43PM -0800, Kevin Kraly wrote:
> If the snow was stuck in  them, they were not decent M + S tires.
> 
> That's what's going on with the '07 Dodge Ram.  Anyone have any 
> recommendations for a good 265/70R17" M&S  truck tire?  The snow fills up 
> the tire treads, and even with 4wd, it becomes practically useless.  It has 
> the same exact Michelins that were on my '03 and '06 2wd models, so they're 
> just a basic highway tire.  Even my mom's HHR will outhandle it as long as 
> there's not too much snow to the point where ground clearance becomes a 
> concern as it bottoms out and the floorboards plow through the snow.

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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Mitch Haley]

R A Bennell wrote:

Other things can happen too. I think I reported this incident on here a while 
back. I was replacing the clutch in
our old 4Runner and went home one afternoon to work on it. No one else home. I 
was putting stuff back together and
reached my arm up in over the tranny against the bottom of the cab floor. I got 
my hand stuck and could not get it
back out. 


One day I was alone in the shop, putting an engine in a Saab 900. I used an air 
ratchet on the left motor mount bolt, and when the bolt bottomed out, the 
ratchet jammed my hand against the body. It had a long lever for a throttle, and 
I couldn't let go to get it to stop hammering my hand into the car. I think I 
finally got my left hand down there and unplugged the air hose.
Next day I started bringing my own Snap-On ratchet to work with a button for a 
throttle. (boss at that shop would rather I use his tools than worry about 
getting mine mixed in with his)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 38, Issue 57

[Dan Weeks]

On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:49 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:


Did a Goggle search to see what this van looked like and here was the
first hit:
Placenta Previa: Overview - eMedicine


Yeah, it does look kind of like a placenta, come to think of it...

:-)

Dan




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[MBZ] W126 shift cable WAS Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kevin Kraly]

Well I guess if you got to pay somebody to replace a shift cable on a
126 you probably should not own one.

The adjuster is broken on mine.  The piece on the housing that threads in is 
broken off, but there are threads further up.  I was going to try to fix it 
or modify it to make it work properly.  The cable itself is fine.  What is 
involved in changing the cable?


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Re: [MBZ] Florida

[Wonko the Sane]

Dreary winter weather? Winter hasn't even hit us yet. So far, just one
blizzard and two ice storms. Living in Florida made you soft.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM, LWB250  wrote:

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> (Any chance to escape from this dreary winter weather.)
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[MBZ] Snow Tires was Re: So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kevin Kraly]

If the snow was stuck in  them, they were not decent M + S tires.

That's what's going on with the '07 Dodge Ram.  Anyone have any 
recommendations for a good 265/70R17" M&S  truck tire?  The snow fills up 
the tire treads, and even with 4wd, it becomes practically useless.  It has 
the same exact Michelins that were on my '03 and '06 2wd models, so they're 
just a basic highway tire.  Even my mom's HHR will outhandle it as long as 
there's not too much snow to the point where ground clearance becomes a 
concern as it bottoms out and the floorboards plow through the snow.


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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[Mitch Haley]

Rich Thomas wrote:

Wow, think of the carbon footprint.


I can't wait until "carbon footprint" and "carbon emissions" find their way onto 
the lists of pointless phrases banned from future usage.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] PREVIA

[John Freer]

Did a Goggle search to see what this van looked like and here was the
first hit:
Placenta Previa: Overview - eMedicine
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Dan Weeks  wrote:
>
> On Jan 7, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Zedic wrote:
>
>> I can say that when I worked for Toyota the Previa was a very trouble
>> free van. One small problem with a cooling pipe that was a bitch to
>> fix but other than thatno problems.ok, front flex pipe for the
>> exhaust.
>>
>> Very reliable van for a new design.
>>
>> You decide on the looksI liked itMUCH better than the Space
>> Cruiser, Town Ace that came before it! Rubbish!
>>
>>
>> Zedic
>
> Good to hear, Jeff. Thanks. THat reputation is what led me to buy one, along
> with the mid-engine position for handling.
>
> I like the looks just fine--a bit less generic than most, and probably quite
> slippery. I like the w-shaped dash as well-quite ergonomic.
>
> Interestingly, although they look like a pod or egg or bean on the outside,
> the inside is quite square, with lots of useable space.
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[R A Bennell]

I have several chunks of large square timber - 12X12 by 16 to 24 inches that I 
keep in the garage and tuck under
the vehicle too along with the jack stands as a bit of a safety cushion if 
things go bad.

One nice thing about 4X4 pickup trucks. Often sufficient room to crawl under 
and do things without jacking it up.

Other things can happen too. I think I reported this incident on here a while 
back. I was replacing the clutch in
our old 4Runner and went home one afternoon to work on it. No one else home. I 
was putting stuff back together and
reached my arm up in over the tranny against the bottom of the cab floor. I got 
my hand stuck and could not get it
back out. Had a bit of a panic attack as I wondered how in the heck I was going 
to get back out of there. I did not
relish the idea of laying under the darned thing while my good wife loosened 
the tranny cross member to lower it a
bit. That sounded risky to me. I sort of like being round rather than flat.

In any event, I soon decided that if I got my hand in there, I should be able 
to get it out and so I wiggled it
around and tried different approaches until I did get loose.

Randy

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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, E M  wrote:
> I hear you with crawling under cars when up in the air.  So many of the
> stands now say "Made In China" too, which does nothing to make me feel any
> better about crawling under there. lol
>

Me too.  I have some expensive but excellent quality USA-made
jackstands that are a very different design from the generic Chinese
ones, and seem much stronger.  I bought them a few years ago from a
guy in New Jersey who sells primarily German tools and hop-up parts
for BMWs through his web site.  Anybody know who I am talking about?
I can't find the site now.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, who is my...@netscape.net

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Who is this person?  


Harry M
69 280 SE
72 350 SL
08 VW Passat 3.6

He's replied to the dead laptop thread a couple of times in the last day or so.

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Re: [MBZ] homemade jet engine using old turbocharger...

[Loren Faeth]

Jim Ettaro made a hydrogen fueled jet turbine engine over 10 years 
ago.  I used to have video of that.  He used an old turbo first, then 
built his on turbine.  I will try to see if I can find the video anywhere.


At 02:14 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote:

I want to make one - Lt. Don, can you be technical advisor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-spt7y1v6Y

Chris






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Re: [MBZ] Uplander

[John Freer]

You're not alone Roger. They will stop making this model this year.

Speaking of mini-vans, how about that VW advertising for their new
"German Engineered" mini-van. Well, guess what, it's just a Chrysler
mini-van with a different facia.

How gulible is the average American anyway?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:16 PM,   wrote:
> My Lord, what a depressing vehicle. Styled like a potato, dismal interior,
> probably handles like a waterbed on casters.
>
> If I had to own one of these things, I think I'd kill myself.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Uplander

[RELNGSON]

My Lord, what a depressing vehicle. Styled like a potato, dismal interior, 
probably handles like a waterbed on casters.

If I had to own one of these things, I think I'd kill myself.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] homemade jet engine using old turbocharger...

[E M]

You're never too young to start blowing things up. lol

First thing I thought when I saw that video.extra fuel line and a spark
plug, ta da, afterburner! :-)

Probably just as good I don't have kids, eh?

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Christopher McCann 

> There are a lot of these vids on youtube. Many use Garret turbos. This
> would make a great science project provided there is plenty of adult
> supervision...more like collaboration. That's a lot more exciting than the
> hot wire anemometer I made in 7th grade. Hmm..oldest is in third grade...few
> more years.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84
> 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out)
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/7/09, E M  wrote:
>
> > From: E M 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] homemade jet engine using old turbocharger...
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 2:50 PM
> > Let me know when you guys plan to do it, I'll bring the
> > bear and First Aid
> > kit. hee hee. ;-)
> >
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
> > 2009/1/7 Christopher McCann 
> >
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> > advisor?
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[MBZ] PREVIA

[Dan Weeks]

On Jan 7, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Zedic wrote:


I can say that when I worked for Toyota the Previa was a very trouble
free van. One small problem with a cooling pipe that was a bitch to
fix but other than thatno problems.ok, front flex pipe for the
exhaust.

Very reliable van for a new design.

You decide on the looksI liked itMUCH better than the Space
Cruiser, Town Ace that came before it! Rubbish!


Zedic


Good to hear, Jeff. Thanks. THat reputation is what led me to buy one,  
along with the mid-engine position for handling.


I like the looks just fine--a bit less generic than most, and probably  
quite slippery. I like the w-shaped dash as well-quite ergonomic.


Interestingly, although they look like a pod or egg or bean on the  
outside, the inside is quite square, with lots of useable space.


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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[E M]

yeah, always easy to know where the Presidential Limo is, just follow the
trail of dead birds that have dropped out of the sky. hee hee.

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Rich Thomas 

> Wow, think of the carbon footprint.
>
> --R
>
>
> Donald Snook wrote:
>
>> More on the new Presidential Limo (nicknamed THE BEAST).
>>
>> This is pretty interesting.  It is a diesel.  It is part Cadillac, part
>> Truck, part bank vault, part tank, and I am guessing not too fuel efficient.
>>
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/06/driving.obama/?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo
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Re: [MBZ] Florida

[Bill R]

It is a dry season at the moment.  The daily rains are in the summer, but
they only last an hour and all is drained off and dry in another hour.  One
of the [few] good things about living on sand.
BillR

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Me! Me! Me!

I'll do it!!!

(Any chance to escape from this dreary winter weather.)

Dan


--- On Wed, 1/7/09, relng...@aol.com  wrote:

From: relng...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Florida
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 1:44 AM

> ...Was hoping someone would volunteer to help this poor old Mercedes
lover.
> (Sniff!)
> How about you, Roger?  You could fly down here to Florida as my house
guest,
> get out of
> all that awful ice and snow; and just to have something to do; wax and
> detail my beautiful
> 240D.  (o:]
> Gerry..
> 
Thanks for the gracious invitation but having visited Florida a number of 
times, if I have to endure daily rain storms, I would rather do so in
Hawaii.

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Re: [MBZ] The Beast!

[Rich Thomas]

Wow, think of the carbon footprint.

--R

Donald Snook wrote:

More on the new Presidential Limo (nicknamed THE BEAST).

This is pretty interesting.  It is a diesel.  It is part Cadillac, part Truck, 
part bank vault, part tank, and I am guessing not too fuel efficient.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/06/driving.obama/?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo

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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, E M  wrote:
> I hear you with crawling under cars when up in the air.  So many of the
> stands now say "Made In China" too, which does nothing to make me feel any
> better about crawling under there. lol
>

Me too.  I have some expensive but excellent quality USA-made
jackstands that are a very different design from the generic Chinese
ones, and seem much stronger.  I bought them a few years ago from a
guy in New Jersey who sells primarily German tools and hop-up parts
for BMWs through his web site.  Anybody know who I am talking about?
I can't find the site now.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] homemade jet engine using old turbocharger...

[Christopher McCann]

There are a lot of these vids on youtube. Many use Garret turbos. This would 
make a great science project provided there is plenty of adult 
supervision...more like collaboration. That's a lot more exciting than the hot 
wire anemometer I made in 7th grade. Hmm..oldest is in third grade...few more 
years.

Chris

 


'85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 
300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out)


--- On Wed, 1/7/09, E M  wrote:

> From: E M 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] homemade jet engine using old turbocharger...
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 2:50 PM
> Let me know when you guys plan to do it, I'll bring the
> bear and First Aid
> kit. hee hee. ;-)
> 
> Ed
> 300E
> 
> 2009/1/7 Christopher McCann 
> 
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> advisor?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Donald Snook]

Tyler wrote: "I don't think anyone has the right to use more of the earths 
resources than they need just because they can afford to, and are too lazy to 
do otherwise."

Well, in my opinion, I am glad you don't get to make the rules.  Otherwise, I 
would certainly not meet your requirements.  I only do the work on my cars that 
I want to do - otherwise, I pay someone with the skills, training and tools to 
do the work.  An oil change is the perfect example of this.  I can change the 
oil on my car, but why should I unless I really want to.  By the time, I buy 
the oil and the filter, I have spent almost as much as the oil change costs and 
because I don't have a lift, it is much more difficult to do the oil change.  I 
guess that makes me lazy (or smart).  My time is worth a whole lot more than 
the $20 I would save in changing it myself.  I do some things on my cars - 
change spark plugs, belts, and sometimes I even replace a water pump or an 
alternator. But, I do that because I enjoy doing it. I like the feeling of 
accomplishment when I am done.  I can also pay the guy at the car wash to wash 
my car or a detail shop to wax it. But, I am picky when it comes to that and, 
again, I enjoy doing the work.  Based on the value of time, I should probably 
pay the neighbor kid to mow my lawn, but I can use the exercise and I think I 
do a better job.

By the way, ALL mechanical goods will reach a point where it makes more sense 
to replace them, instead of to keep repairing them.  Anything with moving parts 
will eventually wear out.

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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[R A Bennell]

I have been lucky with mine I guess. I got my 76 115 300D about 4 summers back 
and have done almost nothing but
change the oil so far. I have collected some bits and pieces to do some work 
but have yet to do it. I really want
to check the valve adjustment and I need to recharge the AC but other than that 
it needs mostly finicky stuff. The
door locks are a bit intermittent. I took the radio (aftermarket) out and have 
the hole in the dash to look at. A
new one on the shelf that I have yet to install.

Of course, in the time I have had it, I think I have only driven it something 
like 8K miles so not exactly taxing
it either. Runs better now than when I got it. Italian tuneups work.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum


This is exactly why I moved away from old MBs.  I have neither the time nor 
inclination (any more) to be spending a
portion of my weekend or evenings to work on a car, even though I have a place 
to do it.

The day will come when I have the time and resources to tinker again, and when 
that day comes, I'll find a nice
older MB to do it with.  Until then, it's strictly utilitarian stuff - get in, 
turn the key and go.

Dan

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, R A Bennell  wrote:

From: R A Bennell 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 3:55 PM

Older MB's are obiously a hobby as much as a driver. Same would apply to an 
older Chevy when it comes right down to
it.

Sometimes, people just get tired of the ongoing hassle of repairs and 
maintenance and want a new vehicle that will
likely have no issues for a good while. Even a 5 year old north american 
vehicle is likely to have a lot less
troubles than a 25 year old Mercedes. Even if the Mercedes was a top of the 
line expensive vehicle and has service
records to show it was properly cared for.

It is easy to just buy or lease something new, drive it for a couple of years 
and then do it again.  Much more
difficult to keep an old car going forward, especially if you care about the 
old car and want it to last.

Randy






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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[E M]

I hear you with crawling under cars when up in the air.  So many of the
stands now say "Made In China" too, which does nothing to make me feel any
better about crawling under there. lol

Ed
300E

2009/1/7 Steve MacSween 

> on 1/7/09 15:16, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote:
>
> > perhaps I should have said if you dont know how to replace a shift cable
> > on a 126 and dont have alot of money to pay somebody to do it, then you
> > probably should not own it.  Nothing ridiculous about that.  I have seen
> > far too many of these cars run into the ground by people who dont know
> > how to work on them and cant pay somebody to fix them right.
>
> Yeah, well in my case there is a slight problem in that I am phobic about
> being under a car that is off the ground. If I can crawl underneath and
> work
> with the car sitting on its tires that is ok, but jackstands forget it. I
> don't even like going underneath a car on the hoist in my buddy's shop. I
> may try again this summer using Rhino-ramps, for some reason seeing
> something solid looks ok to me (as opposed to the steel-frame ramps I have
> lugged around for 20 years and used twice).
>
> The other thing you might want to bear in mind is that not all of us live
> in
> sunshine or temperate locales. I live in the snow belt and have no garage,
> so to begin with I'm stuck using shops for at least five months a year,
> best
> case scenario, even for basic stuff.
>
> $440 for a shift cable replacement is not paying someone to do something
> properly, it's flat out robbery. I almost fell on my butt when he handed me
> the bill. This shop used to hire ex-dealer mechanics, which I understand
> when it comes to justifying their hourly rate. Now it's just any punk they
> train up. Nay nay guys.
>
> Oh and I liked it SO MUCH when they drained my 6-month-old M1 transmission
> fluid (which I had instructed them to re-use) and dumped it because "we
> detected particles". Never heard of straining fluid, eh, guys?
>
> Mac
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You talking about the control pressure cable?  If so, that is about a 10 
minute job max.  That is crazy money.


Steve MacSween wrote:

on 1/7/09 15:16, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote:


perhaps I should have said if you dont know how to replace a shift cable
on a 126 and dont have alot of money to pay somebody to do it, then you
probably should not own it.  Nothing ridiculous about that.  I have seen
far too many of these cars run into the ground by people who dont know
how to work on them and cant pay somebody to fix them right.


Yeah, well in my case there is a slight problem in that I am phobic about
being under a car that is off the ground. If I can crawl underneath and work
with the car sitting on its tires that is ok, but jackstands forget it. I
don't even like going underneath a car on the hoist in my buddy's shop. I
may try again this summer using Rhino-ramps, for some reason seeing
something solid looks ok to me (as opposed to the steel-frame ramps I have
lugged around for 20 years and used twice).

The other thing you might want to bear in mind is that not all of us live in
sunshine or temperate locales. I live in the snow belt and have no garage,
so to begin with I'm stuck using shops for at least five months a year, best
case scenario, even for basic stuff.

$440 for a shift cable replacement is not paying someone to do something
properly, it's flat out robbery. I almost fell on my butt when he handed me
the bill. This shop used to hire ex-dealer mechanics, which I understand
when it comes to justifying their hourly rate. Now it's just any punk they
train up. Nay nay guys.

Oh and I liked it SO MUCH when they drained my 6-month-old M1 transmission
fluid (which I had instructed them to re-use) and dumped it because "we
detected particles". Never heard of straining fluid, eh, guys?
 
Mac




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