[MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
[MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga Gary Hurst Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:18:34 -0800 that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold for atlanta We're showing 9 degrees a few miles down the road from you. When I lived in Western NY that was relatively warm for this time of year, but after almost 12 years down South, this is, as you say, damn cold! Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gee fo
Yeah thats more than I want to pay... I sold my Plus for $15 last year, now I see a guy advertising on Craig's $25 for any 9 mac... I've got a 512K I gutted to make a fishtank but never built the inside bits... -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:19:00 -0800 From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gee fo To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 9df24d03-ada6-4079-8e9b-f7700671a...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I have a 500 already, really need that faster bus and large drive capability. Color classic is $150, complete, last week when I was there. Kicking myself, because I was picking them up at the Goodwill for $10 a decade ago and thinking I was hot stuff selling on eBay for $75. clay -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/26640445/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting
Hi Dimitri, Boston, I didn't know you were in Boston, are you always in Boston? It has been cold but I don't want to hear bitterly from Boston... I work in Tewksbury but live about 50 miles west, its always ~10 degrees warmer in Tewks than at home and the radio says its warmer in Boston still... My cars get a bottle of Diesel Kleen every fall to clean out any water and help prevent gelling. When I first got my 190D it would start and run but wouldn't make any power. I let it idle for an hour and then it was fine... I went directly to a gas station and left the car running while I fueled up, then went to Autozone and again left it running while I got a can of Diesel Suppliment (which is supposed to have better anti-gel properties) and put in the whole can (supposed to treat 250 gallons) never had an issue again. -Curt -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 155436.82298...@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well, I had similar problem this am with a 240D which I just bought.? I don't know the car yet so I'm not sure how low the fuel gauge will go before the tank is empty and I don't even know if the yellow reserve fuel light works.? Well, it was a bitter cold morning here in Boston and the car started just fine.? After a couple of minutes it lost power and stalled on a highway entrance ramp.? THe gauge read low but not completely empty so I suspected gelled fuel.? The highway authority forced me to have the car towed free of charge to the next exit for safety reasons.? There MB roadside assistance came and poured in a couple of gallons of diesel.? The car eventually started and ran.? I then proceeded to the nearest gas station and filled up.? Then I went to Autozone and bought some of that Diesel 911 and poured it into tank.? Car was OK for the rest of the day.?? I'll see what happens tomorrow am. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/fa9dfdd8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting
Curt, that 190D should have a fuel heater. Idling should feed enough warm fuel back to the tank to warm things up nicely. I think it would be fun to get an extra sensor for the outside temp display and set it up to switch between outdoor temp and fuel tank temp. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
Wanna trade? It was -22 the night before and about the same last night. Wed night was -37 in Clinton. Record cold temps around the state last night. I heard new york had the record for the most consecutive days of snow and the coldest Dec on record. we have over 2 feet of snow. that is unusual too! Guess that is what happens when you take the 15-20 Dems who want to be prez out of Iowa! Without their hot air, we have cold winters and cool summers. At 11:17 PM 1/15/2009, you wrote: that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold for atlanta -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090115/d496faa8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
Find a car I want to buy on craigslist. Its a long ways away, about 10 hours, but if its decent its worth it. Its got 1 crappy pic and very little description. So I email the guy and ask him if he has any additional pics he can email and if it leaks or burns anything. He replies back saying it leaks and burns everything, its an old diesel. No mention of pics. Ok, so I email him back and basically say, OK, no pics, how is the body, interior etc, any rust issues? Coming a long way and want to get more info before coming to get it. He replies back t his morning that I should not bother coming to get it, he is sure he will have it sold to somebody local pretty soon. WOW, Ok, that beats all I have ever saw. Why do people list something then do not try very hard at all to sell it? Anyway, if somebody is near this car and wants to look at it for me and possibly take it to their place till I can get there to get it let me know. Or, if somebody else wants it I guess thats OK too, after all, I am supposed to be on a buying freeze. 1991 Mercedes 300D (diesel) 4DR Reply to: sale-994154...@craigslist.org Date: 2009-01-15, 1:35PM This workhorse gets 40 plus miles per gallon. It's well used (265,000+ miles) but starts every time and runs like a tank. The AC's on the blink but the power sunroof works and power windows work. Has power locks, leather seats, new Pioneer stereo/CD. Automatic. Good cheap transportation -- on the highway it runs smooth and fast and sips at the fuel. It's been in the family for a long time but it was time for something newer. Look now it won't stay on market long. * Location: Troy, AL * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL:http://montgomery.craigslist.org/cto/994154948.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300GD
Drl... Would this have a 60x engine? One presumes the 300GD followed the 300D for engines. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/ec53b406/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Prepare to be Amazed and Astounded
I thought I emailed you and told you I did not have one. Archer wrote: OKDon wrote: A list member is really just an imaginary construct or model we have invented to group together a series of closely related events and behavior we have observed in the Internet. The observed phenomena is real, but the list member itself is only an intellectual tool for understanding, describing, and predicting those phenomena. .. Kaleb is an imaginary construct? Maybe that's why he hasn't gotten around to checking on the part I asked him about; i.e. the climate control module for my '83 300D. Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1895 - Release Date: 1/15/2009 7:46 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1896 - Release Date: 1/15/2009 7:10 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Original URL:http://montgomery.craigslist.org/cto/994154948.html Isn't Wonko's stepdaughter engaged to a guy from down there? Maybe he'd look at it for you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Mercedes on Barrett Jackson
It all depends on the provenance and the paperwork/photos. I am not a fan of the 116 cars, as I find their interiors seem flimsy - thin leather and wood, balky controls, etc. Also, they really do stink of old car smell after 10 yrs. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: $7700.00 seems about right for a 77 450SEL in great shape - a Kaleb special is a whole different story. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:57 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] Interesting Mercedes on Barrett Jackson I have been out of town this week and have not caught up on my DVR of the ongoing Barrett Jackson Auction. But, I did see a 1977 450SEL (NOT with the 6.9) WITH ONLY 77,000 MILES that belonged to Doris Day. It sold for only $7,700. The announcers commented that they thought that was a steal for the buyer. While it is certainly not a normal Barrett Jackson car, it was interesting to see it. Nice car. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090115/4f 500225/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1894 - Release Date: 1/14/2009 7:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1894 - Release Date: 1/14/2009 7:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/ece83831/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300GD
Would this have a 60x engine? One presumes the 300GD followed the 300D for engines. Probably a 617. Wasn't it the G300D's that got the 603? I want a 463 G300D, but they basically don't exist here. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
Mitch Haley wrote: Isn't Wonko's stepdaughter engaged to a guy from down there? Maybe he'd look at it for you? That's news to me! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anyway, if somebody is near this car and wants to look at it for me and possibly take it to their place till I can get there to get it let me know. Or, if somebody else wants it I guess thats OK too, after all, I am supposed to be on a buying freeze. It's about 5 hours from me so I can't help you out on this one... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
John Robbins wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Isn't Wonko's stepdaughter engaged to a guy from down there? Maybe he'd look at it for you? That's news to me! You don't remember when she met some kid from 'Bama and he went up north with his grandma to fetch him a bride? I think it's in the archives under Bama Boy Must Die. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
http://www.schumanautomotive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4243 If you go to the page above and read the second post, you'll see that Hit Man X says he has the trans repair factory PDF. Anyone know what he is talking about? Is that something in the service manual or is there more detailed info somewhere else? And, does anybody have the document he's talking about? I joined the forum so I can try to contact him, but I haven't been approved yet. Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
In my experience you run don't walk away from guys like that. Sounds to me like he copied another ad he found for a Mercedes diesel, otherwise why is he so negative in emails yet so full of love in the ad? Heh. mac on 1/16/09 9:48, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote: Find a car I want to buy on craigslist. Its a long ways away, about 10 hours, but if its decent its worth it. Its got 1 crappy pic and very little description. So I email the guy and ask him if he has any additional pics he can email and if it leaks or burns anything. He replies back saying it leaks and burns everything, its an old diesel. No mention of pics. Ok, so I email him back and basically say, OK, no pics, how is the body, interior etc, any rust issues? Coming a long way and want to get more info before coming to get it. He replies back t his morning that I should not bother coming to get it, he is sure he will have it sold to somebody local pretty soon. WOW, Ok, that beats all I have ever saw. Why do people list something then do not try very hard at all to sell it? Anyway, if somebody is near this car and wants to look at it for me and possibly take it to their place till I can get there to get it let me know. Or, if somebody else wants it I guess thats OK too, after all, I am supposed to be on a buying freeze. 1991 Mercedes 300D (diesel) 4DR Reply to: sale-994154...@craigslist.org Date: 2009-01-15, 1:35PM This workhorse gets 40 plus miles per gallon. It's well used (265,000+ miles) but starts every time and runs like a tank. The AC's on the blink but the power sunroof works and power windows work. Has power locks, leather seats, new Pioneer stereo/CD. Automatic. Good cheap transportation -- on the highway it runs smooth and fast and sips at the fuel. It's been in the family for a long time but it was time for something newer. Look now it won't stay on market long. * Location: Troy, AL * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL:http://montgomery.craigslist.org/cto/994154948.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Christopher McCann wrote: If you go to the page above and read the second post, you'll see that Hit Man X says he has the trans repair factory PDF. Anyone know what he is talking about? Is that something in the service manual or is there more detailed info somewhere else? And, does anybody have the document he's talking about? I joined the forum so I can try to contact him, but I haven't been approved yet. I've got it... It's a 100mb PDF. I don't remember exactly what is in it, but I just copied it to my webserver (yay SSH!). Don't plan on it being speedy since you'll get a max of 30kb/s. http://starquake.ath.cx/mercedes/ Be forewarned, one of the head honchos (boneheadeddoctor) is crazy. I was banned for pointing out a copyright violation he made... At the same time he also banned 3 or 4 of the most active posters on the forum. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300GD
617's ran up to 1990 in the G's ( 460 series ) . There are some 300GD 463's in the USA. For the best english language G forum go to http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=57 Peter 2009/1/16 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Would this have a 60x engine? One presumes the 300GD followed the 300D for engines. Probably a 617. Wasn't it the G300D's that got the 603? I want a 463 G300D, but they basically don't exist here. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/72e556da/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
What a steal. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Isn't Wonko's stepdaughter engaged to a guy from down there? Maybe he'd look at it for you? That's news to me! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/6fd3a8f1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
John Robbins wrote: Be forewarned, one of the head honchos (boneheadeddoctor) is crazy. I was banned for pointing out a copyright violation he made... At the same time he also banned 3 or 4 of the most active posters on the forum. When I logged in to get Hit Man X's contact info for Chris, it told me the last time I logged in was in April. I wasn't involved in the banning, I just quit going there when things got ridiculous. Kind of like Stu Hitler's email list, except I was never a member there, so I didn't get to quit. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
Kaleb wrote: I have cars from time to time with no titles, rather than going thru the hassle of going thru the state of OK, or paying one of those title companies, would be nice to have friends (have relatives in Maine) whos states to not require titles to older cars, who can then register them in their state and then send me a nice new title. Anyone who has this email response on their computer please delete it, so there is no evidence that kaleb suggested this. Just kidding. But, I think this is called title washing, is considered fraudulent in many states and should probably not be discussed on a list that is saved on the internet. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/730b368d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Awesome! Thanks. Now I don't need to join the Schuman list. I thought he might be a little strange because of his avatar...not much Benz content there! (Plenty of content, just not Benz content!) Thanks again, John Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: From: John Robbins je...@msstate.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:48 AM Christopher McCann wrote: If you go to the page above and read the second post, you'll see that Hit Man X says he has the trans repair factory PDF. Anyone know what he is talking about? Is that something in the service manual or is there more detailed info somewhere else? And, does anybody have the document he's talking about? I joined the forum so I can try to contact him, but I haven't been approved yet. I've got it... It's a 100mb PDF. I don't remember exactly what is in it, but I just copied it to my webserver (yay SSH!). Don't plan on it being speedy since you'll get a max of 30kb/s. http://starquake.ath.cx/mercedes/ Be forewarned, one of the head honchos (boneheadeddoctor) is crazy. I was banned for pointing out a copyright violation he made... At the same time he also banned 3 or 4 of the most active posters on the forum. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Harry, That would be great!. Please send to: Christopher McCann 3535 Forest Ave. Kansas City, MO 64109 I'll be happy to send you parts you might need in exchange...or pay for it if you want. Parts list here: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/994727654.html plus a bunch of other stuff. Let me know what you need...parts, money, first-born son... Gratefully, Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:04 AM Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
I watched about half if it, its for sure amature hour but at least it lets you see sort of what one of them looks like apart. harry watkins wrote: Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
There are companies that do this commercially. Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: I have cars from time to time with no titles, rather than going thru the hassle of going thru the state of OK, or paying one of those title companies, would be nice to have friends (have relatives in Maine) whos states to not require titles to older cars, who can then register them in their state and then send me a nice new title. Anyone who has this email response on their computer please delete it, so there is no evidence that kaleb suggested this. Just kidding. But, I think this is called title washing, is considered fraudulent in many states and should probably not be discussed on a list that is saved on the internet. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/730b368d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TRAILER block heater for Chris
Yeah that is the intended use. My Grandfather drove a standard 5 ton box truck in Germany. He usually pulled a two axle trailer with the steerable front axle. In some of the places he went, the only way to easily get the trailer in was to hook it to the hitch on the front of the truck. Backing up one of those trailers is a whole nuther level of hard. I don't have any problems with regular trailers but I still haven't gotten very good with the three axle front steering trailer that I made. Gonna take a lot more practice there. Manfred Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:34:37 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] TRAILER block heater for Chris I think people use the front receiver mount because they find it easier to maneuver a trailer driving forward rather than trying to back up. I have never tried it myself and it does not sound like it would be that much better. I suppose it might give a tighter turning circle given the front wheels of the vehicle would turn quicker than the back end. Sort of the reverse of a boat which essentially steers from the back rather than the front as with a car. Randy -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: trailer.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 194068 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/dcf02411/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Between this video and another I ordered and the manuals - factory and ATSG and another one - I think learning this is not impossible...even if I have to attempt it several times. Looked on CL in KC today for a trans tech advertising on the side - I found one that looks good. I am going to call him and see if he'd take a couple days to walk me through this...basically give me and Charlie a 722.3 tranny rebuild course over a couple days. It's gonna cost (unless he wants to swap for the $350 SD), but it will be worth it. Need to post some pics of that. Need to rearrange my garage into trans shop mode too. No room right now. BTW, I am looking for a used transmission table/transmission workbench. Search ebay if you don't know what that is. If anyone has one for sale or sees one for sale, let me know. I could make one - the new ones are too small. Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:23 AM I watched about half if it, its for sure amature hour but at least it lets you see sort of what one of them looks like apart. harry watkins wrote: Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
How old is the boy? Can he operate equipment? Does he eat much? Hmmm. I'll get it the mail today, the good deal I got on the parts I bought earlier will make us even. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF Harry, That would be great!. Please send to: Christopher McCann 3535 Forest Ave. Kansas City, MO 64109 I'll be happy to send you parts you might need in exchange...or pay for it if you want. Parts list here: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/994727654.html plus a bunch of other stuff. Let me know what you need...parts, money, first-born son... Gratefully, Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:04 AM Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting
Yeah I know, thats exactly what happened... -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:01:46 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low temp starting To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4970934a.5080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt, that 190D should have a fuel heater. Idling should feed enough warm fuel back to the tank to warm things up nicely. I think it would be fun to get an extra sensor for the outside temp display and set it up to switch between outdoor temp and fuel tank temp. Mitch -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/01b80d85/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Chris What do you think about Dave Walton's suggestion on this thread? What about it Donald? Harry - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF Harry, That would be great!. Please send to: Christopher McCann 3535 Forest Ave. Kansas City, MO 64109 I'll be happy to send you parts you might need in exchange...or pay for it if you want. Parts list here: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/994727654.html plus a bunch of other stuff. Let me know what you need...parts, money, first-born son... Gratefully, Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:04 AM Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
dont forget all the special tools you will need Christopher McCann wrote: Between this video and another I ordered and the manuals - factory and ATSG and another one - I think learning this is not impossible...even if I have to attempt it several times. Looked on CL in KC today for a trans tech advertising on the side - I found one that looks good. I am going to call him and see if he'd take a couple days to walk me through this...basically give me and Charlie a 722.3 tranny rebuild course over a couple days. It's gonna cost (unless he wants to swap for the $350 SD), but it will be worth it. Need to post some pics of that. Need to rearrange my garage into trans shop mode too. No room right now. BTW, I am looking for a used transmission table/transmission workbench. Search ebay if you don't know what that is. If anyone has one for sale or sees one for sale, let me know. I could make one - the new ones are too small. Chris -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
If he needs a Maine title that way, just have his buddy living in the jail awaiting trial for murder take title and then send them to Kaleb. May the turkey in jail fry... but after he does the favor clay On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: I have cars from time to time with no titles, rather than going thru the hassle of going thru the state of OK, or paying one of those title companies, would be nice to have friends (have relatives in Maine) whos states to not require titles to older cars, who can then register them in their state and then send me a nice new title. Anyone who has this email response on their computer please delete it, so there is no evidence that kaleb suggested this. Just kidding. But, I think this is called title washing, is considered fraudulent in many states and should probably not be discussed on a list that is saved on the internet. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/730b368d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Prepare to be Amazed and Astounded
Kaleb wrote: I thought I emailed you and told you I did not have one. If you did, I didn't get it. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. Gerry Archer wrote: OKDon wrote: A list member is really just an imaginary construct or model we have invented to group together a series of closely related events and behavior we have observed in the Internet. The observed phenomena is real, but the list member itself is only an intellectual tool for understanding, describing, and predicting those phenomena. .. Kaleb is an imaginary construct? Maybe that's why he hasn't gotten around to checking on the part I asked him about; i.e. the climate control module for my '83 300D. Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
I'm holding off on the tools till I figure out exactly what I need. Baum tools has a Mercedes Transmission tools section in their catalog. Seems like most are for 722.6+ transmissions. Then there are some simple tools that are useful with any trans (various pics, etc). Will have my Bavarian friend Paul price all the MB trans tools I need. Might be cheaper to buy them in Germany and ship them here than buy them from an importer...should probably check ebay.de for Getriebe Werkzeug Mercedes - transmission tool Mercedes. Need to get tranny lube gel too - parts installation lubricant. Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:45 AM dont forget all the special tools you will need Christopher McCann wrote: Between this video and another I ordered and the manuals - factory and ATSG and another one - I think learning this is not impossible...even if I have to attempt it several times. Looked on CL in KC today for a trans tech advertising on the side - I found one that looks good. I am going to call him and see if he'd take a couple days to walk me through this...basically give me and Charlie a 722.3 tranny rebuild course over a couple days. It's gonna cost (unless he wants to swap for the $350 SD), but it will be worth it. Need to post some pics of that. Need to rearrange my garage into trans shop mode too. No room right now. BTW, I am looking for a used transmission table/transmission workbench. Search ebay if you don't know what that is. If anyone has one for sale or sees one for sale, let me know. I could make one - the new ones are too small. Chris -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
I think HitMan said his version was 7MB. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
He's 1 and not too helpful right now. :-) Look forward to the video. Let me know if you need anything. Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:37 AM How old is the boy? Can he operate equipment? Does he eat much? Hmmm. I'll get it the mail today, the good deal I got on the parts I bought earlier will make us even. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF Harry, That would be great!. Please send to: Christopher McCann 3535 Forest Ave. Kansas City, MO 64109 I'll be happy to send you parts you might need in exchange...or pay for it if you want. Parts list here: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/994727654.html plus a bunch of other stuff. Let me know what you need...parts, money, first-born son... Gratefully, Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:04 AM Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
Redghost wrote: If he needs a Maine title that way, just have his buddy living in the jail awaiting trial for murder take title and then send them to Kaleb. May the turkey in jail fry... but after he does the favor I either missed the plea bargain and sentencing news or forgot about it already: http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/92614.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
He did. I guess it's a low-res scan...do PDFs of images work that way? --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:58 AM I think HitMan said his version was 7MB. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
I think I missed it...didn't find it in my Trash either. Can you repost it? --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:44 AM Chris What do you think about Dave Walton's suggestion on this thread? What about it Donald? Harry - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF Harry, That would be great!. Please send to: Christopher McCann 3535 Forest Ave. Kansas City, MO 64109 I'll be happy to send you parts you might need in exchange...or pay for it if you want. Parts list here: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/pts/994727654.html plus a bunch of other stuff. Let me know what you need...parts, money, first-born son... Gratefully, Chris --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:04 AM Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: ISP doesn't support Linux
There's instructions online to adapt an ATX power supply. I did it once, and it works well... I think it was just switching two wires or something. Tyler Curt Raymond wrote: Ahhh the red tape... The company is so sure I'm trying to steal that lovely 6 year old machine with no powersupply (apparently the MDD powersupply is a known weak point) that instead of letting an employee have something like that they'll PAY to have it disposed of... Genius. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
i also had gear when i lived cold climates. i had $200 long underwear and waterproof boots. here i have crocs and fat guy shorts. i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester walking around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats and freezing. i would tell them that it was all just a matter of getting used to it but it was nothing other than the quality of the cold weather gear. i would impress the russians when i was there by standing in ice water to show them the resolve of the american. i had waterproof thermal boots. they had boots that looked a little like mine, but where just junk. none of the locals could beat me in a contest of ice water standing. but as i now live in a climate where it is in the 50s on a typical winter day, i don't have any gear at all so 20 degrees below freezing is just killer for me now On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Mathieu J. Cama c...@oldworldauto.comwrote: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga Gary Hurst Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:18:34 -0800 that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold for atlanta We're showing 9 degrees a few miles down the road from you. When I lived in Western NY that was relatively warm for this time of year, but after almost 12 years down South, this is, as you say, damn cold! Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/6e1be821/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: transmission repair factory PDF
Dave wrote: If you care to loan it to me for a week, I can digitize it and put it on a server for the list members to download. I'll PayPal you the postage. Dave Walton 2986 Warrington Road Shaker Heights, OH 44120 216.751.6646 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:04 AM, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
Amazing factoid: Washington, D.C. and Winnepeg, MB will have the same low temperature tomorrow morning (approx. + 5 F.). On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Mathieu J. Cama c...@oldworldauto.comwrote: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga Gary Hurst Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:18:34 -0800 that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold for atlanta We're showing 9 degrees a few miles down the road from you. When I lived in Western NY that was relatively warm for this time of year, but after almost 12 years down South, this is, as you say, damn cold! Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/39259f2c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
Gary Hurst wrote: i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester walking around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats and freezing. I used to wear shorts and sandals at Michigan State unless I was leaving the dorm, I was used to living in a 65 degree house in the winter. A friend and I would go to the movies in a neighboring dorm dressed like that (the classrooms we used for movie night got quite warm with a few hundred bodies in them). So we'd be calmly walking along in shorts and sandals, sometimes it might be 0-10 degrees F on a clear night, and see what comments it would draw. Most common was Where are you guys from, Alaska or something? I always let Stan answer that one: Coastal Texas, actually. Sure, it was a bit nippy walking around like that, but it was only a 100yd walk, as opposed to two hours in a packed auditorium holding a winter coat in your lap. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300GD
from what i've seen, early 300GDs seemed to have either the 616 or 617 (non-turbo). cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Drl... Would this have a 60x engine? One presumes the 300GD followed the 300D for engines. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/37ba30ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: transmission repair factory PDF
That would be great. I would have had to have paid someone put it on DVD as I can't watch VHS, so it works out really well for me. DAVE, make sure to tell us all when it is available to watch. I don't think the video is available for purchase anymore...maybe we could put it on youtube? Technically it's still the property of the creator, but since it is no longer available, I don't have scruples about making it available to people who need the info. Not like we'd be making money off it. Chris '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out) --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: [MBZ] Fw: transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:22 AM Dave wrote: If you care to loan it to me for a week, I can digitize it and put it on a server for the list members to download. I'll PayPal you the postage. Dave Walton 2986 Warrington Road Shaker Heights, OH 44120 216.751.6646 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:04 AM, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: transmission repair factory PDF
Sounds good. I'll check out the YouTube thing. I'll put a high-res copy on one of the servers at work as well and let you know how to get at it. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote: That would be great. I would have had to have paid someone put it on DVD as I can't watch VHS, so it works out really well for me. DAVE, make sure to tell us all when it is available to watch. I don't think the video is available for purchase anymore...maybe we could put it on youtube? Technically it's still the property of the creator, but since it is no longer available, I don't have scruples about making it available to people who need the info. Not like we'd be making money off it. Chris '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out) --- On Fri, 1/16/09, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Subject: [MBZ] Fw: transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 11:22 AM Dave wrote: If you care to loan it to me for a week, I can digitize it and put it on a server for the list members to download. I'll PayPal you the postage. Dave Walton 2986 Warrington Road Shaker Heights, OH 44120 216.751.6646 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:04 AM, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: Chris I purchased a video (VHS) Transmission Rebuild, Mercedes 722.315 Auto, by D.T. Charnews, 2004. Its yours (free) if you want it. The guy looks like he is working in his basement and films bits and pieces as he goes through the rebuild. It would have been real helpful to me, but of course I have to be led around by the hand on most things. Maybe someone else can chime in, I'm sure my lead for buying it came from one of these lists. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attn Curt
I can't speak for Maine, but there are states out there that do not require a title on vehicles older than a certain age. When it's that old, all you need is a bill of sale. And there are always the folks in Alabama/Mississippi (wherever it is) that will title the vehicle for you - that's what I had to do for the 1962 300SE. Dan (Poos on *another* list) --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Attn Curt To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:42 PM Actually Poos is probably more knowledgeable on that front than I. I've been in MA for most of my adult life and never titled a vehicle in Maine. That said I don't think thats true but my parents have had all new cars since 1984 so I don't have a frame of reference... You might try checking around maine.gov -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:37:52 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] Attn Curt To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 496fc8d0.8030...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Is it true that Maine does not require a title on a car that is over 15 years old? If so, what do they need to register it? Just a bill of sale? Once you do that do they then give you a title and registration? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090115/bc68209f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/7175a92b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a guy trys hard NOT to sell a car
not everyone wants to make any effort to sell a car; some just want someone to buy it without asking questions, and that's obviously not the kind of buyer you are. cheers! e Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Find a car I want to buy on craigslist. Its a long ways away, about 10 hours, but if its decent its worth it. Its got 1 crappy pic and very little description. So I email the guy and ask him if he has any additional pics he can email and if it leaks or burns anything. He replies back saying it leaks and burns everything, its an old diesel. No mention of pics. Ok, so I email him back and basically say, OK, no pics, how is the body, interior etc, any rust issues? Coming a long way and want to get more info before coming to get it. He replies back t his morning that I should not bother coming to get it, he is sure he will have it sold to somebody local pretty soon. WOW, Ok, that beats all I have ever saw. Why do people list something then do not try very hard at all to sell it? Anyway, if somebody is near this car and wants to look at it for me and possibly take it to their place till I can get there to get it let me know. Or, if somebody else wants it I guess thats OK too, after all, I am supposed to be on a buying freeze. 1991 Mercedes 300D (diesel) 4DR Reply to: sale-994154...@craigslist.org Date: 2009-01-15, 1:35PM This workhorse gets 40 plus miles per gallon. It's well used (265,000+ miles) but starts every time and runs like a tank. The AC's on the blink but the power sunroof works and power windows work. Has power locks, leather seats, new Pioneer stereo/CD. Automatic. Good cheap transportation -- on the highway it runs smooth and fast and sips at the fuel. It's been in the family for a long time but it was time for something newer. Look now it won't stay on market long. * Location: Troy, AL * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL:http://montgomery.craigslist.org/cto/994154948.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/331323e7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker
if it's actually in as good condition as stated, it would likely easily (eventually) go for something near the asking price here on the Left Coast. my 85s in pretty good-looking condition, and i still get offers for more than i paid for it 5 years/55K miles ago. strange market here now; lots of people here want nice example of these, but (except for the hippies that still think they'll run on anything the get from the back of a restaurant for free) don't want junkers. on the flip side, you can't get a single dollar for one from some of the local junkyards, since those hippies have trashed so many of them by running them on garbage that there's a glut of them in the yards with grenaded motors,... cheers! e Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If its as nice as he says, and everything works, not a spec of rust anywhere, perfect paint etc, the end of the world on that car is probably 4-5k, to the right person. Curt Raymond wrote: http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/990227432.html -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090115/3ab70dde/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1895 - Release Date: 1/15/2009 7:46 AM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/1b92b260/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Messiah's car on eBay
Anybody want a 300C for only $100,000? Formerly owned by the star of next week's inauguration: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330301140685 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4970b9a7.2060...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed dont forget all the special tools you will need Not sure how many special tools you'll need- the only one I can remember is a 3/4 drive 1 3/16 socket (12 point) that worked quite nicely on the output shaft nut. Already had that, thanks to my Dad who used to use it on olde Beetle rear hubs. Was the first time I'd used that, though! You will need an assortment of internal/external ring pliers and an assortment of pics (think dental instruments). Used some pipe fittings to compress the ~ 16 springs that are part of the front pump. While this was all on a 722.4xx box I don't think the .3xx is much different, other than in how the governor locking mechanism works- a rotating paw in the .3xx, an internal clip on the .4xx There are special tools to establish proper gaps in each of the clutch packs. The new friction discs are a set thickness but you set the exact gap by replacing the steels- these are available in variable thicknesses. On mine the B3 discs (reverse) were the most worn. In that set there was perceptable wear in the steels- of the total increase in gap of the whole set about 15% was due to wear of the steels. But since there was no excessive discoloration of the steel I reused them. My thought was that OK this time the tranny may only go another 200k instead of the 300k it went the first time. And there was a differance- reverse took about a half second to engage instead of being nearly instantaneous. But given that it USED to take 3-5 seconds I was OK with that! Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/fe556c75/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
Its about 10F here right now, I just got back from a quick snowmobile ride, there are 2 trees down and I don't have any chainsaw gas mixed so I can only go about 2 miles out and back. I was testing some electric socks I'd bought my wife for Christmas that she doesn't like. I think they're pretty good. Theres some sort of heating strip right under my toes that doesn't work for beans wandering around the house but in my boots it gets nice and toasty. I wore the wrong neck warmer so there was one cold spot just under my chin. With the correct one I have to keep my helmet open a little to cool off. You're right its all about having the right equipment... -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:11:56 -0800 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 8b0e7cce0901160911o31aa507u2b0e803165c58...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 i also had gear when i lived cold climates. i had $200 long underwear and waterproof boots. here i have crocs and fat guy shorts. i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester walking around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats and freezing. i would tell them that it was all just a matter of getting used to it but it was nothing other than the quality of the cold weather gear. i would impress the russians when i was there by standing in ice water to show them the resolve of the american. i had waterproof thermal boots. they had boots that looked a little like mine, but where just junk. none of the locals could beat me in a contest of ice water standing. but as i now live in a climate where it is in the 50s on a typical winter day, i don't have any gear at all so 20 degrees below freezing is just killer for me now -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/81812b92/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
turns out they dont' deliver the 5.99 pizza for 5.99, so i'll have to go out soon. fortunatety, it's probably like 30s now On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Its about 10F here right now, I just got back from a quick snowmobile ride, there are 2 trees down and I don't have any chainsaw gas mixed so I can only go about 2 miles out and back. I was testing some electric socks I'd bought my wife for Christmas that she doesn't like. I think they're pretty good. Theres some sort of heating strip right under my toes that doesn't work for beans wandering around the house but in my boots it gets nice and toasty. I wore the wrong neck warmer so there was one cold spot just under my chin. With the correct one I have to keep my helmet open a little to cool off. You're right its all about having the right equipment... -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:11:56 -0800 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 8b0e7cce0901160911o31aa507u2b0e803165c58...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 i also had gear when i lived cold climates. i had $200 long underwear and waterproof boots. here i have crocs and fat guy shorts. i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester walking around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats and freezing. i would tell them that it was all just a matter of getting used to it but it was nothing other than the quality of the cold weather gear. i would impress the russians when i was there by standing in ice water to show them the resolve of the american. i had waterproof thermal boots. they had boots that looked a little like mine, but where just junk. none of the locals could beat me in a contest of ice water standing. but as i now live in a climate where it is in the 50s on a typical winter day, i don't have any gear at all so 20 degrees below freezing is just killer for me now -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/81812b92/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/31b40674/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
I've got almost all that already. There is a very nice spring compressor that you can buy which looks really handy. Yes, the 722.4 and .3 are very similar. They are covered in the same ASTG rebuild manual that I bought... http://www.atsg.biz/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=actioncategory=EIMPkeywords=allpricecode=passsubnum= So, you obviously rebuilt a 722.4 - did you have any trans rebuilding experience before you did it? Did you use a manual to guide you through? If so, which one? It's amazing that the clutch disks last as long as they do. Now that I have a bit of a clue how the automatic trans works, I've changed my view on them a bit. They don't really break at 200,000 miles the wear pieces just wear out. Of course, the hard parts can break, but that is not usually the case, it seems. '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out) --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4970b9a7.2060...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed dont forget all the special tools you will need Not sure how many special tools you'll need- the only one I can remember is a 3/4 drive 1 3/16 socket (12 point) that worked quite nicely on the output shaft nut. Already had that, thanks to my Dad who used to use it on olde Beetle rear hubs. Was the first time I'd used that, though! You will need an assortment of internal/external ring pliers and an assortment of pics (think dental instruments). Used some pipe fittings to compress the ~ 16 springs that are part of the front pump. While this was all on a 722.4xx box I don't think the .3xx is much different, other than in how the governor locking mechanism works- a rotating paw in the .3xx, an internal clip on the .4xx There are special tools to establish proper gaps in each of the clutch packs. The new friction discs are a set thickness but you set the exact gap by replacing the steels- these are available in variable thicknesses. On mine the B3 discs (reverse) were the most worn. In that set there was perceptable wear in the steels- of the total increase in gap of the whole set about 15% was due to wear of the steels. But since there was no excessive discoloration of the steel I reused them. My thought was that OK this time the tranny may only go another 200k instead of the 300k it went the first time. And there was a differance- reverse took about a half second to engage instead of being nearly instantaneous. But given that it USED to take 3-5 seconds I was OK with that! Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/fe556c75/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
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Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
Wonko the Sane wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html Can you take Debbie's brother to look it over with you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
Hard to say without knowing the mileage, A/C work, how much rust, etc. May be a very expensive MB at the end of the day. John On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/76f59beb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300GD
Can't be 616's if its a 300. Up to 1990 - 617 , post 1990 603, 606 Peter 2009/1/16 ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org from what i've seen, early 300GDs seemed to have either the 616 or 617 (non-turbo). cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Drl... Would this have a 60x engine? One presumes the 300GD followed the 300D for engines. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/37ba30ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/ab568fb4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300GD
hi Peter! sounds great in theory, but i've found 4 cyls under the hood of too many old 300s to believe that's always the case. i suppose they could have been swaps, but i can't imagine anyone going to the trouble to make a swap that seems to be going in the wrong direction. (i know of some turbo 617s that have been swapped in, and that's much closer to my ideal vehicle.) cheers! e Peter Merle wrote: Can't be 616's if its a 300. Up to 1990 - 617 , post 1990 603, 606 Peter 2009/1/16 ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org from what i've seen, early 300GDs seemed to have either the 616 or 617 (non-turbo). cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Drl... Would this have a 60x engine? One presumes the 300GD followed the 300D for engines. -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/37ba30ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/ab568fb4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/6857ead2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] physics and such
I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of Things I Know Something About and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to convince anyone otherwise by keeping my mouth shut. It's already clear who the expert is. Yr obdt svt. RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd =DecemailfooterNO62) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/0c2fd8d6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I used to wear shorts and sandals at Michigan State unless I was leaving the dorm, I was used to living in a 65 degree house in the winter. A friend and I would go to the movies in a neighboring dorm dressed like that (the classrooms we used for movie night got quite warm with a few hundred bodies in them). No heated tunnels between the buildings? I thought just about every upper Midwest college and university had them. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Prepare to be Amazed and Astounded
It applies to almost everything, because that is how the human mind usually perceives the world. Tyler OK Don wrote: Yes - I like that explanation. In fact, I think it applies to a lot more than just physics - like the denizens of this list --- A list member is really just an imaginary construct or model we have invented to group together a series of closely related events and behavior we have observed in the Internet. The observed phenomena is real, but the list member itself is only an intellectual tool for understanding, describing, and predicting those phenomena. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. I think it's a bit low but still in the market, judging by my observations in my area (modulo the usual difference between West Coast and Midwest prices for used imports). I don't have any proof of this, just hearsay, but I suspect that the prices of used W210s are in the toilet because they're fraught with electrical gremlins yet getting too old for most shops to want to deal with (much like W140s). Remember that the late '90s were the nadir of Mercedes quality. Pity, because the cars are comfortable, damn fast (especially the V-8s and turbodiesels), and still look good. Kind of like a W124 with the rough edges smoothed out both literally and figuratively. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
Alex Chamberlain wrote: No heated tunnels between the buildings? I thought just about every upper Midwest college and university had them. We had steam tunnels where the pipes from the university power plant to the buildings ran under the sidewalks. James Dallas Egbert was supposed to have lived down there for a while before he died. (I had the room next door to his, three years after he was gone, so I never met him) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_tunnel_incident ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] physics and such
From: relng...@aol.com I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of Things I Know Something About and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to convince anyone otherwise by keeping my mouth shut. It's already clear who the expert is. Yr obdt svt. RLE --- You could offer your opinions on the airliner crash in NYC. On another list we've been trying to figure out how the pilot managed to make such a smooth, safe landing with underslung engines; especially since one engine did tear off. Some think he lost flying speed near the water and ground-effect let him drop more gently into the water. Also, since Airbus pilots can't override fly-by-wire, what effect; if any; did the planes computers have to do with the smooth landing of the A320? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
Wiring harness clay On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Wonko the Sane wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/76f59beb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
sounds a bit low, but I don't see the mileage. The one's I've looked at are all 6 cylinder models, ranging from '97 to '00, with anywhere from 100,000-150,000. Prices here for nice clean ones seems to be between $7000-11,000, asking. One I'm looking at is from a small dealer, with 100,000 kms on it. It's an '00 and he's asking $10,500 with a one year, 12,000kms warranty included. Not sure what I'll offer yet, but it seems like a nice example. Ed 300E 2009/1/16 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. I think it's a bit low but still in the market, judging by my observations in my area (modulo the usual difference between West Coast and Midwest prices for used imports). I don't have any proof of this, just hearsay, but I suspect that the prices of used W210s are in the toilet because they're fraught with electrical gremlins yet getting too old for most shops to want to deal with (much like W140s). Remember that the late '90s were the nadir of Mercedes quality. Pity, because the cars are comfortable, damn fast (especially the V-8s and turbodiesels), and still look good. Kind of like a W124 with the rough edges smoothed out both literally and figuratively. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/431d4675/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ah, so.
http://images2.jokaroo.net/videos/grandpajapan.wmv RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/9210e151/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Prepare to be Amazed and Astounded
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM, tyler casi...@usermail.com wrote: It applies to almost everything, because that is how the human mind usually perceives the world. As someone who almost went to grad school to study 20th-century metaphysics and philosophy of mind, I can't let this go by without comment. Tyler, you've already strayed in this discussion far out of physics per se into philosophy of science, not that there's anything wrong with that! However, the formalist point of view you're advocating (that scientific theories do not describe real entities but rather models consistent with repeatable observation) certainly cannot be generalized in the way you just have without opening the door to an awfully thorny can of metaphysical worms (mixed metaphor very much intentional!). You're glossing over centuries of debate, going back at least to the Enlightenment empiricists (Locke, Hume, Berkeley) in the 17th century, through Wittgenstein in the mid-20th, and beyond. I for one am not at all prepared to abandon wholesale the ontological distinctions among reality, my perceptions of it, and my mental constructs resulting therefrom; I find those distinctions useful, congenial, and well-founded. Many of our perceptions do form patterns to which it is convenient to give names; but let us not confuse the pattern with the thing perceived, lest we put the ontological cart before the horse and begin to think that patterns we have invented out of whole cloth are themselves as real as the perceived ones or the things themselves. For example, I would argue (1) that the computer on which I'm typing this is a real, physical entity; (2) that the computational process going on which puts letters on the screen as I type is not an entity at all, but solely a convenient way to group some of my perceptions (and those of the programmers who wrote the software); and (3) that the numerals on the clock at the bottom of the screen represent real but nonphysical entities, the natural numbers, which (just like the laptop) exist independently of my perception of them---but all three of those assertions are debatable and have been debated by philosophers in recent memory. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, or at least a bundle of perceptions of it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: ISP doesn't support Linux
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Right now I have an old sawtooth G4. Really could be happier with a nice Mac with a faster bus speed. A Sawtooth I bought new in 1999 is my computer of choice for any kind of creative work (web design, Photoshop, light video and audio editing). It's been upgraded within an inch of its life, though. Originally was a 450 MHz G4, 128 Mb of RAM, Rage 64 graphics (if even that---some kind of low end ATI card at any rate), running OS 9.1. Now has a 1.2 GHz G4 processor daughtercard, Radeon 9800 graphics, max RAM of 2 Gb, and OS X Tiger of course. I'm about to cross the final frontier by putting in a new 1 Tb hard drive and a PCI SATA card to drive it. If it seems too slow after that, I guess it's time for a new machine---the only limiting factor left is the bus and you can't upgrade that! (Not as expensive an experiment as it sounds, since I'm sure I can resell the SATA card on eBay and the hard drive can go into an AMD Linux box I'm building). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Peugeot 505 turbodiesel (?) on Portland CL
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/988008347.html I thought the turbo 505s were all gas and the diesels were all normally aspirated. Would this be a slug with the slushbox or was it tuned with a high stall speed like in a 603 car to compensate for turbo lag? I bet Mathieu knows. Sure is a nice color! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
I don't have any idea what you'te talking about. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt Kaleb wrote: I have cars from time to time with no titles, rather than going thru the hassle of going thru the state of OK, or paying one of those title companies, would be nice to have friends (have relatives in Maine) whos states to not require titles to older cars, who can then register them in their state and then send me a nice new title. Anyone who has this email response on their computer please delete it, so there is no evidence that kaleb suggested this. Just kidding. But, I think this is called title washing, is considered fraudulent in many states and should probably not be discussed on a list that is saved on the internet. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/73 0b368d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 turbodiesel (?) on Portland CL
Parts will be impossible, but a friend of ours drove several to death back when they were available in the 80's -- 500,000 miles or so on two of them. Not bad cars. I still see one or two when I visit my sister in DC. Peter On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/988008347.html I thought the turbo 505s were all gas and the diesels were all normally aspirated. Would this be a slug with the slushbox or was it tuned with a high stall speed like in a 603 car to compensate for turbo lag? I bet Mathieu knows. Sure is a nice color! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Peugeot 505 turbodiesel (?) on Portland CL
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/988008347.html I thought the turbo 505s were all gas and the diesels were all normally aspirated. Would this be a slug with the slushbox or was it tuned with a high stall speed like in a 603 car to compensate for turbo lag? I bet Mathieu knows. Sure is a nice color! Should've Wikipedia'd before I hit send and answered my own question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_505 Only 80 hp from a 2.3-liter turbodiesel? Sounds like a joke. Might be bearable with three pedals, but US cars apparently had a 3-speed auto box. Bleah. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
WOW, yea, that is cheap. Wonko the Sane wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/76f59beb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] hauled back that 190E 5 speed
Well removing the gas cap reveals really old gas, I bet the pump is stuck by now, been sitting. Also, mice have chewed up some wires under the hood, including an ignition wire. Dont know if it would start even push starting it. Also has rust so its a parts car for sure. But, the seats seem pretty nice. I will say the duramax really didnt even know there was a car loaded on that trailer. I guess I am used to hauling 140 500SEL, those are some HEAVY cars. They hang off the back of the trailer. The 190 had lots of room left over. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attn Curt
Thats broadway title. What Im trying to do is avoid paying them $300 or whatever they charge these days. Guess it would not be illegal if they are doing it. LWB250 wrote: I can't speak for Maine, but there are states out there that do not require a title on vehicles older than a certain age. When it's that old, all you need is a bill of sale. And there are always the folks in Alabama/Mississippi (wherever it is) that will title the vehicle for you - that's what I had to do for the 1962 300SE. Dan (Poos on *another* list) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
You know there is more to it that replacing the clutches, the valve body will also need some attention most likely at this point. Christopher McCann wrote: I've got almost all that already. There is a very nice spring compressor that you can buy which looks really handy. Yes, the 722.4 and .3 are very similar. They are covered in the same ASTG rebuild manual that I bought... http://www.atsg.biz/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=actioncategory=EIMPkeywords=allpricecode=passsubnum= So, you obviously rebuilt a 722.4 - did you have any trans rebuilding experience before you did it? Did you use a manual to guide you through? If so, which one? It's amazing that the clutch disks last as long as they do. Now that I have a bit of a clue how the automatic trans works, I've changed my view on them a bit. They don't really break at 200,000 miles the wear pieces just wear out. Of course, the hard parts can break, but that is not usually the case, it seems. '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] physics and such
I wouldn't be surprised to find BOTH engines sheared off; they're usually (often, anyway) held on by only two bolts/pins (one on top toward the front, one toward the rear) that shear before tearing a wing off. This was the case with ones that I used to be intimate with, anyway - B-47's and B-52's and others that I've seen in photos. Shearing the engines off helps keep it from flipping up and over, etc. If right engine is still on it or held on a little longer may be what made the aircraft turn sharply to the right after it hit the water. Better for the engines to shear off than to cause more/bigger problems. BTW, remember the engine sheared off the aircraft crashed on the ground several days ago? They actually shear fairly easily - the pins/bolts I'm talking about easily carry the weight of the engine and impart thrust to the aircraft, but are relatively weak to sudden impact shear forces. Wilton - Original Message - From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such From: relng...@aol.com I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of Things I Know Something About and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to convince anyone otherwise by keeping my mouth shut. It's already clear who the expert is. Yr obdt svt. RLE --- You could offer your opinions on the airliner crash in NYC. On another list we've been trying to figure out how the pilot managed to make such a smooth, safe landing with underslung engines; especially since one engine did tear off. Some think he lost flying speed near the water and ground-effect let him drop more gently into the water. Also, since Airbus pilots can't override fly-by-wire, what effect; if any; did the planes computers have to do with the smooth landing of the A320? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
yea, he did plead out, but I had not seen this article. So many things wrong with it. Then I started reading the comments at the bottom, so many people are really screwed up with the way they are thinking. Mitch Haley wrote: Redghost wrote: If he needs a Maine title that way, just have his buddy living in the jail awaiting trial for murder take title and then send them to Kaleb. May the turkey in jail fry... but after he does the favor I either missed the plea bargain and sentencing news or forgot about it already: http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/92614.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] physics and such
Is there anything built into the fuel system to stop or slow fuel flow in the even of an engine being sheared off? Ed 300E 2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com I wouldn't be surprised to find BOTH engines sheared off; they're usually (often, anyway) held on by only two bolts/pins (one on top toward the front, one toward the rear) that shear before tearing a wing off. This was the case with ones that I used to be intimate with, anyway - B-47's and B-52's and others that I've seen in photos. Shearing the engines off helps keep it from flipping up and over, etc. If right engine is still on it or held on a little longer may be what made the aircraft turn sharply to the right after it hit the water. Better for the engines to shear off than to cause more/bigger problems. BTW, remember the engine sheared off the aircraft crashed on the ground several days ago? They actually shear fairly easily - the pins/bolts I'm talking about easily carry the weight of the engine and impart thrust to the aircraft, but are relatively weak to sudden impact shear forces. Wilton - Original Message - From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such From: relng...@aol.com I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of Things I Know Something About and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to convince anyone otherwise by keeping my mouth shut. It's already clear who the expert is. Yr obdt svt. RLE --- You could offer your opinions on the airliner crash in NYC. On another list we've been trying to figure out how the pilot managed to make such a smooth, safe landing with underslung engines; especially since one engine did tear off. Some think he lost flying speed near the water and ground-effect let him drop more gently into the water. Also, since Airbus pilots can't override fly-by-wire, what effect; if any; did the planes computers have to do with the smooth landing of the A320? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/c7df928c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - price shock
Drove to Duke Hosp (Durham) today for neurology follow-up, etc.; tremor is gone, reflexes at knees and elbows back to normal; still have serious trouble walking, though - can't lift toes to clear floor/ground when bringing rear foot forward; still using walker and elec. scooter as appropriate. Returning home at about 3:00 PM, 'had not had lunch; 'pulled off freeway for chocolate milkshake at a Hardee's drivethru - $3.19 for 16 oz. shake - 'been a long time since I've had one, but it'll be a helluva lot longer before I have another. Soon after I got home, SWMBO came in with 4-year-old grandson; she picked 'im up at school and went to a movie; 'told her about the milkshake, and she proceeded to outdo me - $4.00 for small bag of popcorn, $3.50 for small bottle of water, etc! Daughter-in-law came in; 'told us that she took the two boys bowling one day last week - $26.00 for one game for the three of 'em!!! BTW, 'saw #2 @ $2.20/gal on the edge of town, Goldsboro, NC. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
http://www.drivetrain.com/mercedes_dt.htm yes, there is. LInk above has 21 steps to sucessful tranny rebuild. Gives a general overview of what a rebuild is...including the part below that on the torque converter. CM --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 6:00 PM You know there is more to it that replacing the clutches, the valve body will also need some attention most likely at this point. Christopher McCann wrote: I've got almost all that already. There is a very nice spring compressor that you can buy which looks really handy. Yes, the 722.4 and .3 are very similar. They are covered in the same ASTG rebuild manual that I bought... http://www.atsg.biz/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=actioncategory=EIMPkeywords=allpricecode=passsubnum= So, you obviously rebuilt a 722.4 - did you have any trans rebuilding experience before you did it? Did you use a manual to guide you through? If so, which one? It's amazing that the clutch disks last as long as they do. Now that I have a bit of a clue how the automatic trans works, I've changed my view on them a bit. They don't really break at 200,000 miles the wear pieces just wear out. Of course, the hard parts can break, but that is not usually the case, it seems. '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - price shock
yea, things are expensive. Which is strange considering the price of diesel is half of what it was, that was the reason everything at the groc store got jacked up. When are they going to start lower the prices of food back down? Filled up my 100 gal tank on the trunk today at 2.03. Gas just went up to 1.69 so I figured diesel would probably go up too. Why the heck is gas going up, oil has been dropping. Wilton Strickland wrote: Drove to Duke Hosp (Durham) today for neurology follow-up, etc.; tremor is gone, reflexes at knees and elbows back to normal; still have serious trouble walking, though - can't lift toes to clear floor/ground when bringing rear foot forward; still using walker and elec. scooter as appropriate. Returning home at about 3:00 PM, 'had not had lunch; 'pulled off freeway for chocolate milkshake at a Hardee's drivethru - $3.19 for 16 oz. shake - 'been a long time since I've had one, but it'll be a helluva lot longer before I have another. Soon after I got home, SWMBO came in with 4-year-old grandson; she picked 'im up at school and went to a movie; 'told her about the milkshake, and she proceeded to outdo me - $4.00 for small bag of popcorn, $3.50 for small bottle of water, etc! Daughter-in-law came in; 'told us that she took the two boys bowling one day last week - $26.00 for one game for the three of 'em!!! BTW, 'saw #2 @ $2.20/gal on the edge of town, Goldsboro, NC. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, he did plead out, but I had not seen this article. So many things wrong with it. Then I started reading the comments at the bottom, so many people are really screwed up with the way they are thinking. Was the Mike mentioned in the comments your F-I-L? I'm sure nobody commenting had any idea how much stress was involved in being responsible for those particular three kids. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
cool, great site. Christopher McCann wrote: http://www.drivetrain.com/mercedes_dt.htm yes, there is. LInk above has 21 steps to sucessful tranny rebuild. Gives a general overview of what a rebuild is...including the part below that on the torque converter. CM --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 6:00 PM You know there is more to it that replacing the clutches, the valve body will also need some attention most likely at this point. Christopher McCann wrote: I've got almost all that already. There is a very nice spring compressor that you can buy which looks really handy. Yes, the 722.4 and .3 are very similar. They are covered in the same ASTG rebuild manual that I bought... http://www.atsg.biz/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=actioncategory=EIMPkeywords=allpricecode=passsubnum= So, you obviously rebuilt a 722.4 - did you have any trans rebuilding experience before you did it? Did you use a manual to guide you through? If so, which one? It's amazing that the clutch disks last as long as they do. Now that I have a bit of a clue how the automatic trans works, I've changed my view on them a bit. They don't really break at 200,000 miles the wear pieces just wear out. Of course, the hard parts can break, but that is not usually the case, it seems. '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
It seems than at Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:03:33 -0800 (PST), Christopher wrote: He did. I guess it's a low-res scan...do PDFs of images work that way? PDF has no native way to deal with images. It typically uses jpeg. And often the default when creating the PDF is a rather low-resolution, low-quality jpg suitable for screen viewing. (72 dpi and about 70 quality setting). With ghostscript to do the PDF creating, there are options for the target. In linux, I use the commandline ps2pdf. $ ps2pdf -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress in.ps out.pdf Choices - in ascending quality and size are: · screen · ebook · default · printer · prepress PDF is a poor choice if it's just a scanned image anyway. Better to just distribute the image! Anyway, PDFs don't have to have crummy images - they just usually do! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
Yea, thats my FIL. I loved the comment about getting pregnant is no excuse, should have kept them. Well, were they offering to pay for said kids? That was only one issue, being totally and completely out of control was the big one. BTW, the article said the 2 live with the grandfather. BZZT, WRONG, they shipped the off somewhere else. Bad part is we are still legal guardian, nothing has been filed to change it. I also loved the comment about how they were slip up because something about Regina got them before the grandmother in ME who supposedly wanted them could, basically screwed her out of getting them. Well first of all the grandmother there did not want them. If she did want them she would not have been able to get them. There was nobody in the state of maine that would have been allowed to take them, so it was either come with us, or be slip up and live with strangers. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, he did plead out, but I had not seen this article. So many things wrong with it. Then I started reading the comments at the bottom, so many people are really screwed up with the way they are thinking. Was the Mike mentioned in the comments your F-I-L? I'm sure nobody commenting had any idea how much stress was involved in being responsible for those particular three kids. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
If I knew I could get two/three years out of it, I would be tempted to try to buy it. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: WOW, yea, that is cheap. Wonko the Sane wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/76f59beb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/7f6a0a0d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
All but three years suspended? Can that be right? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Redghost wrote: If he needs a Maine title that way, just have his buddy living in the jail awaiting trial for murder take title and then send them to Kaleb. May the turkey in jail fry... but after he does the favor I either missed the plea bargain and sentencing news or forgot about it already: http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/92614.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/6a809317/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] physics and such
There are always the firewall shutoff valves actuated by quick-reaction T
handles to stop all flow - fuel, hyd, oil, etc., to the engine ('cept a bit
for lub while windmilling). These are usually located in the strut or wing
directly above the engine; 'don't remember any auto or spring-loaded shutoff
to stop flow for sheared engine - may be such by now - stuff I dealt with
was from 50's, but a lot of it is still flying.
Wilton
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From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such
Is there anything built into the fuel system to stop or slow fuel flow in
the even of an engine being sheared off?
Ed
300E
2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com
I wouldn't be surprised to find BOTH engines sheared off; they're
usually
(often, anyway) held on by only two bolts/pins (one on top toward the
front,
one toward the rear) that shear before tearing a wing off. This was the
case with ones that I used to be intimate with, anyway - B-47's and
B-52's
and others that I've seen in photos. Shearing the engines off helps
keep
it
from flipping up and over, etc. If right engine is still on it or held
on
a
little longer may be what made the aircraft turn sharply to the right
after
it hit the water. Better for the engines to shear off than to cause
more/bigger problems.
BTW, remember the engine sheared off the aircraft crashed on the ground
several days ago? They actually shear fairly easily - the pins/bolts
I'm
talking about easily carry the weight of the engine and impart thrust to
the
aircraft, but are relatively weak to sudden impact shear forces.
Wilton
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From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such
From: relng...@aol.com
I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of
Things I
Know Something About and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to
convince
anyone
otherwise by keeping my mouth shut.
It's already clear who the expert is.
Yr obdt svt.
RLE
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You could offer your opinions on the airliner crash in NYC. On
another
list
we've been trying to figure out how the pilot managed to make such a
smooth,
safe landing with underslung engines; especially since one engine did
tear
off.
Some think he lost flying speed near the water and ground-effect let
him
drop
more gently into the water.
Also, since Airbus pilots can't override fly-by-wire, what effect;
if
any;
did the
planes computers have to do with the smooth landing of the A320?
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] physics and such
Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: I wouldn't be surprised to find BOTH engines sheared off; they're usually (often, anyway) held on by only two bolts/pins (one on top toward the front, one toward the rear) that shear before tearing a wing off. I just heard on the radio on the way home that both engines are missing at the moment, so sounds like you are right! Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
Im sure you could but just watch out for Rust. Also, if the AC does not work, big money. Think the wiring problems were fixed by then. Wonko the Sane wrote: If I knew I could get two/three years out of it, I would be tempted to try to buy it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
what kind of mileage does it have? If not too high, you might easily get a few years out of it. If you don't, at that price, maybe worth dropping a used engine or trans from Kaleb in it. Ed 300E 2009/1/16 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com If I knew I could get two/three years out of it, I would be tempted to try to buy it. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: WOW, yea, that is cheap. Wonko the Sane wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/76f59beb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/7f6a0a0d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/b3a6bb0c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
he got 12 years in jail, but could get out in 7 I think. Wonko the Sane wrote: All but three years suspended? Can that be right? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Title Washing was Re: Attn Curt
Yea, caught my error on second reading of the article. But even seven years behind bars takes away 10% of the life of the average individual. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: he got 12 years in jail, but could get out in 7 I think. Wonko the Sane wrote: All but three years suspended? Can that be right? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/939d5741/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] does this seem too cheap?
Seller is in a (cough) less desirable part of Des Moines, I think. I would expect this used car dealer to be sandwiched between a PayDay Loan outfit and a rib joint. If I am going to spend that much money, I'd want to either get the vehicle from someone on this list or even a real dealer. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: what kind of mileage does it have? If not too high, you might easily get a few years out of it. If you don't, at that price, maybe worth dropping a used engine or trans from Kaleb in it. Ed 300E 2009/1/16 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com If I knew I could get two/three years out of it, I would be tempted to try to buy it. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: WOW, yea, that is cheap. Wonko the Sane wrote: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/995132355.html KBB retail suggests $8885, guy (dealer) is asking $3500. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/76f59beb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 6:52 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/7f6a0a0d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/b3a6bb0c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/c48e7963/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] physics and such
Here's another question Wilton, what type of oil do the engines on a BUFF
use? How many gallons are allotted per engine, and how often is the oil
changed ? Still amazes me how old some of those birds are, and they just
keep on flying.
My great Grandfather was a mechanical engineer, and I was down having a look
at one of the old steam engines he helped design, while it was being
restored. I was watching one guy pack grease into one of the wheel
bearings! Was about as liquid as cold road tar. lol I can't remember the
weight now, but it was pretty serious stuff.
Ed
300E
2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com
There are always the firewall shutoff valves actuated by quick-reaction T
handles to stop all flow - fuel, hyd, oil, etc., to the engine ('cept a bit
for lub while windmilling). These are usually located in the strut or wing
directly above the engine; 'don't remember any auto or spring-loaded
shutoff
to stop flow for sheared engine - may be such by now - stuff I dealt with
was from 50's, but a lot of it is still flying.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such
Is there anything built into the fuel system to stop or slow fuel flow in
the even of an engine being sheared off?
Ed
300E
2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com
I wouldn't be surprised to find BOTH engines sheared off; they're
usually
(often, anyway) held on by only two bolts/pins (one on top toward the
front,
one toward the rear) that shear before tearing a wing off. This was
the
case with ones that I used to be intimate with, anyway - B-47's and
B-52's
and others that I've seen in photos. Shearing the engines off helps
keep
it
from flipping up and over, etc. If right engine is still on it or held
on
a
little longer may be what made the aircraft turn sharply to the right
after
it hit the water. Better for the engines to shear off than to cause
more/bigger problems.
BTW, remember the engine sheared off the aircraft crashed on the ground
several days ago? They actually shear fairly easily - the pins/bolts
I'm
talking about easily carry the weight of the engine and impart thrust
to
the
aircraft, but are relatively weak to sudden impact shear forces.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such
From: relng...@aol.com
I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of
Things I
Know Something About and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to
convince
anyone
otherwise by keeping my mouth shut.
It's already clear who the expert is.
Yr obdt svt.
RLE
---
You could offer your opinions on the airliner crash in NYC. On
another
list
we've been trying to figure out how the pilot managed to make such a
smooth,
safe landing with underslung engines; especially since one engine did
tear
off.
Some think he lost flying speed near the water and ground-effect let
him
drop
more gently into the water.
Also, since Airbus pilots can't override fly-by-wire, what effect;
if
any;
did the
planes computers have to do with the smooth landing of the A320?
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml
Gerry
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